I just want to know the truth and now I'm confused

[cheez_2806]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

I was once very confident in these theories or...what should I called them...claims?? that the agenda of the Elite is controlling us and manipulating us to disconnect us from our source. The governments, elites, media are all in this big plan all together and we are slowly waking up and transforming throughout these years to understand and re-connect with our sources and once again be united back together again. Is that right? is that what is going on? That is the whole bigger picture is it?? or is that just a small part of it??
I watch and read videos and sometimes one person's sources contradicts with another...or one opposes to another in some aspects..but I believe there is only one truth. So what is it?? man...some people tell me to use the intuition and judge for yourself...but how...I haven't got the knowledge or developed my intuition to that level and plus I don't even think I have got myself unplugged out of the system... I'm 21 still studying at university, working my way in society - get a job get married and blah blah blah....what if David icke or the other sources are part of the counterintelligence and that their contribution is a plan/agenda as well?? I don't know...and now I'm lost...I don't know where this "truth" is going to lead....actually what is the "truth"??
"When you mix falsehood with truth, you create a more destructive lie" - from a book by zacharias... I think this quote in the book is quiet right...

maybe I should focus on the present moment...but I just can't stop thinking about it...

What are your views on religion?? like jesus, buddhism etc.
Is the bible/religions really an agenda? or its just that the nature of it has been manipulated so it has become a tool but it wasn't originally??
In zeitgiest or david ickes videos it mentions that religions is actually just the worship of the sun. Then where did the bible come from? from authorities? Jesus's miracles performed were just made up stories?
The bible predicts a NWO and a false light that will mislead the people...

[dourpil]

I'm having a similar issue but on a whole different subject.

My point of view right now is that Life is very simple. We, the humans, have a very special "ability" which is to overthink and judge all the informations that are coming to us. I always try to have my theories explained, proven or even dismantled so that I access a higher level of understanding.

Today, I feel confused, just like you are. And that is because I don't fully trust myself, the others, and Life in general.

It's all pure, it's all Love, it's all Life. We don't need to know what's going on with the government. We need to know ourselves, we need to notice when we're approaching fields that contain too much information for a human being to deal with.

I know that I'll always have exactly what I need in life, that I'll always be at the exact place I'm supposed to be in order to live happily. Yet I forget all of that, nearly every second these times I'm hit with doubts, negative feelings and often resignation.

The only work we need to do right now, is about ourselves. Purifying our minds and souls will end up purifying the world. Being totally honest with yourself and with others will bring truth back to you.

_

About religions, I'm not too interested in them. I think religion is putting a part of spirituality inside a box. Even if the box is golden, it won't let you experience what's outside of it. The masters (like Jesus, Buddha) weren't inside these boxes. We put them there, but their teachings are all the same.

[christian]

maybe I should focus on the present moment...but I just can't stop thinking about it...


If you can't, then who else can do it for you? Only you can, that's what self-responsibility is all about.

I don't chain myself to outlandish claims, I'm free to consider everything and believe nothing, I experienced a lot out crazy things, that strongly nudge me to suppose, that we are indeed spirit having a human experience etc. The evidence shows, that there is most probably a lot going on in the shadows of life, politics, etc., I take that for granted by now, but it seems a bit moot to try to get every tiny shadowy hyrogliphic right. At the end of the day, in my daily life, I go with what feels appropriate. What difference would it make for me right now whether or not I know 'for sure' if there are giant space ships in the rings of Saturn?

[Tenzin]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

I was once very confident in these theories or...what should I called them...claims?? that the agenda of the Elite is controlling us and manipulating us to disconnect us from our source. The governments, elites, media are all in this big plan all together and we are slowly waking up and transforming throughout these years to understand and re-connect with our sources and once again be united back together again. Is that right? is that what is going on? That is the whole bigger picture is it?? or is that just a small part of it??
I watch and read videos and sometimes one person's sources contradicts with another...or one opposes to another in some aspects..but I believe there is only one truth. So what is it?? man...some people tell me to use the intuition and judge for yourself...but how...I haven't got the knowledge or developed my intuition to that level and plus I don't even think I have got myself unplugged out of the system... I'm 21 still studying at university, working my way in society - get a job get married and blah blah blah....what if David icke or the other sources are part of the counterintelligence and that their contribution is a plan/agenda as well?? I don't know...and now I'm lost...I don't know where this "truth" is going to lead....actually what is the "truth"??
"When you mix falsehood with truth, you create a more destructive lie" - from a book by zacharias... I think this quote in the book is quiet right...

maybe I should focus on the present moment...but I just can't stop thinking about it...

What are your views on religion?? like jesus, buddhism etc.
Is the bible/religions really an agenda? or its just that the nature of it has been manipulated so it has become a tool but it wasn't originally??
In zeitgiest or david ickes videos it mentions that religions is actually just the worship of the sun. Then where did the bible come from? from authorities? Jesus's miracles performed were just made up stories?
The bible predicts a NWO and a false light that will mislead the people...

The truth is already known somewhere out there, but those in the REAL know, would rather keep it to themselves because if they are to present to a huge group of people who currently to do not have the 'faculty' or in the right frame of mind to understand it yet, they will most probably refer the 'knowers' as nutheads.

Try telling the average folks about conspiracies, and we will get first hand experience what I am saying above.

In the meantime we find tonnes of people rushing forward to claim they are enlightened but yet twist with a hurt ego when criticized. While others, for fear of losing their false sense of security in their choice of belief of what is to come, will resort to selective attention. And of course, there will always be the unfortunate case where material greed get the better of them.

If our consciousness is of the appropriate level, the truth will reveal itself to us if we seek hard enough.

Personally, I believe the journey starts from within rather than externally.

[ktlight]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

I was once very confident in these theories or...what should I called them...claims?? that the agenda of the Elite is controlling us and manipulating us to disconnect us from our source. The governments, elites, media are all in this big plan all together and we are slowly waking up and transforming throughout these years to understand and re-connect with our sources and once again be united back together again. Is that right? is that what is going on? That is the whole bigger picture is it?? or is that just a small part of it??
I watch and read videos and sometimes one person's sources contradicts with another...or one opposes to another in some aspects..but I believe there is only one truth. So what is it?? man...some people tell me to use the intuition and judge for yourself...but how...I haven't got the knowledge or developed my intuition to that level and plus I don't even think I have got myself unplugged out of the system... I'm 21 still studying at university, working my way in society - get a job get married and blah blah blah....what if David icke or the other sources are part of the counterintelligence and that their contribution is a plan/agenda as well?? I don't know...and now I'm lost...I don't know where this "truth" is going to lead....actually what is the "truth"??
"When you mix falsehood with truth, you create a more destructive lie" - from a book by zacharias... I think this quote in the book is quiet right...

maybe I should focus on the present moment...but I just can't stop thinking about it...

What are your views on religion?? like jesus, buddhism etc.
Is the bible/religions really an agenda? or its just that the nature of it has been manipulated so it has become a tool but it wasn't originally??
In zeitgiest or david ickes videos it mentions that religions is actually just the worship of the sun. Then where did the bible come from? from authorities? Jesus's miracles performed were just made up stories?
The bible predicts a NWO and a false light that will mislead the people...

You may not yet be aware that you, like us all, have been indoctrinated through family, religion, education, media, etc. Since you are only 21 years you might not yet realise how important it is to understand the nature of thought. It is not an easy study because thought thinks it is king and will fight anything you challenge it that it wishes you to retain in support of its dominance. There are no gurus, so do not follow. To get some understanding, though, view some of Krishnamurti/Prof David Bohm videos, especially those about thought. Persevere and you will find out that truth is within you, and once thought has been overcome, there is then knowing.

Hope you understand.

[etheric underground]

Religion is a construct, it separates, segregates,makes us believe we are not the same.
When looked at from an expanded and non constructive, open hearted way, we
begin to remember what we truly are. this breaks down the CONSRUCTed walls of believing that a
god, prophet, allah, buddah, master is going to bring us salvation and is the answer to all our woes.
The golden age or prophetically termed the age of wisdom (of all knowing) is upon us. This simply
means that we will all have the opportunity to lay down separation and isms and remember that we are all one.
That we all originate from source and have all the answers that we require. the term THINK OUTSIDE THE SQUARE
is a perfect analogy for those fretting over this conundrum....Break out of construct...think for your self
KNOW THAT YOU AND YOU ALONE IS THE ONLY GOD THAT IS IMPORTANT AND AWESOME AND REQUIRED RIGHT NOW.
REFLECT ON THIS.......

[DoubleHelix]

"......The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

The bible says that the "truth will set you free" who's to say that the bibles author knew the truth?

The layers of deception run deep at every level, how can one truly know when they've grasped the truth? I'd say that for the truth to be totally understood, one would have to experience it, not be shown or told it. In the mean time one can do a number of things to filter the BS and narrow down the elusive truth.

- Use your power of discernment
- Cross-reference info/material with multiple sources
- Use your inbuilt BS detector (feel into it, analyze the vibe, does it feel right?)

I've come to the understand that every person has their own individual truth. Being right isn't always the main objective. At the end of the day we're all here to learn!

[Billy]

Here is a truth.
When you experience a truth, that truth will resonate within you inner being,

If someone says " this is the truth" and it does not resonate within you. then that is not your truth,
If it does send tiggles of resonating vibrations within you. then you have the choice to bring that truth on board or regect it.

We all see a different Truth and Truth is in the eye of the beholder.

[ghostrider]

the viel will only be removed when you draw nigh to the great spirit, and then everything will make sense to you and you'll re-learn everything you thought you knew. there is ONE great infinite spirit that controls everything, divine life, divine energy, pure love, is the great spirit- most see it only through a VIEL- the curtain is pulled back when your ready to know.....it happend to me at 24, had to relearn everything and found out alot of people weren't telling me the truth. translation DIG FOR YOURSELF - READ FOR YOURSELF-CONFIRM EVERYTHING BY THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES. then take it to great spirit and rest easy.

[Renne]

I think the reason of your confusion is that you're trying too hard thinking about it, this is one of those moment you need to open your heart and shut up your mind.
Truth is there. You don't need to quest or fight for it, one can easily put a lot of effort in it，but it's not an input-output business. It's just there.
Imagine you are standing in front of the Big Ultimate Universal Truth, do you feel strong enough to face it?
Usually the truth is just there, standing right in front of you, but your subconscious weakness just choose to blind it for you. Because for you it's too big,
It's the heart who knows it all, and it's the heart who one most needs courage to deal with.

[KosmicKat]

With regard to knowing the truth, at the point I am on my journey (and perhaps you also) it is most helpful to note, and remember everything I find, but not commit to believing anything unless I have experience that persuades me. Later, we may have enough pieces to begin to identify what is true. For now, we must continue to discover patiently. I just hope what I say helps you.

[Tane Mahuta]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?



I'm having a similar issue but on a whole different subject.


What is needed my friend isResearch, lots & lots of Research & Patience. With research comes knowledge,

with knowledge comes discernment.

The higher self will fill in the gaps.

When one seeks wisdom......there is no right or wrong! only what resonates.


TM

[Heyoka_11]

Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

Hey cheez, you are a very lucky man! To be fortunate enough to be asking the questions you have posed at the age of 21 gives you heaps of time to figure it out, as you will. You would do well to embrace the confusion that you are currently experiencing, because confusion must exist prior to change, in any system that you can imagine, including your own thoughts and beliefs.

My thoughts are that you are looking for truth in exactly the right way, and that way is what is right for you, doing whatever you happen to decide, here, and now. Allow yourself the freedom to investigate any avenue you wish, but do so without attaching yourself to any outcomes, i.e. don't be disappointed if you don't find "the Truth" after reading someone's books, or joining some group, watching a David Icke video, whatever! You have heard this already, that eventually, you are going to find the truth within yourself; that in itself is a Truth that you will comprehend a little later in life, but you must persevere. There will be times that you feel as if you have found it, only to later find that you didn't. There will be times that you wander down what you later think of as a wrong path, and you may feel a fool for having done so. It doesn't matter! you cannot make any mistakes a long as your intention is honourable, and the quest for Truth is the most honourable of paths to walk in life. So get out there and make as many mistakes as you want, and you will learn from every one of them.

You live in a supportive Universe, one that listens, and responds. Put your request out into the "field", by stating exactly what you would like to know. The answers will come to you, and probably not in the manner that you would expect. As billyji suggested in post number 8, feel for what resonates within you. Doing this will help you realise that the truth was right there inside you all along, but it takes a lot of practice. At all times, try to take it easy on yourself, and not fall into the trap of wanting your answers right here and right now. Be patient, and know that the prize that you seek will make every step of the journey worthwhile.

You are free to PM me at any time, with any specific question that you may have. I will try to assist you in any way I can.

[sygh]

Consider ethics and morality. Consider the fact that there really is good, as well as evil in the world. This planet is teaming with life but also, with death. One cannot survive in this body without extracting the life force from another living source. One could say, there is a duality on this planet, and that would be correct. To eat, is to be alive; to be gluttonous isn't to be balanced. It seems killing on this planet is a necessity but to kill needlessly, or to torture, is ill. To destroy the source is to kill a part of that which is the living body of the planet. i.e. nuclear explosions, oil spills, EMP, HAARP, etc... Evil is a purposeful thought carried out by one, or more beings. It transends all imaginary lines including culture, religion, race, politics, even worlds, etc...

I could go on but... wait, maybe this makes sense. What you hear, or read from others, doesn't take the place of personal experience. I don't think this is a great analogy but for instance, I've
never seen a UFO, and I don't think I've ever been visited by one, even though my meditations have taken me many places, past, present, and future. However, I feel they exist, not because someone else tells me they exist but because I don't feel as if planet earth, the creatures living on it, or the 3-D is alone. If it was, then there should only be 1-D. Did I make sense to you? This is my truth, until such a time as I understand it to a greater degree, so to speak. I can't prove it, not until I am confronted with the real thing.

[Tony]

Dear cheez_2806

You can't solve a concept with a concept: it will never be satisfying. You have to go beyond the concept to pure experience. To meditate or not to meditate that is the question.

If you are happy with the way things are for you, then there is no need to meditate. You're probably meditating automatically - after all it is your natural state of being. However, sometimes we get distracted and need a method to train in order to find our natural state. It is only a matter of being mindful, which serves as a reminder.

What we talking about is being you, all the time. This sounds so obvious that it sounds ridiculous! We are only being us sporadically. If you were you all the time - day and night - you would be a Buddha!

So we have to accept that we have a fair way to go, and because of that we are suffering. If we cannot admit to suffering, however slightly, we will not want to change. Change means striping away the glue that is holding everything together.

Meditation is a simple technique to clear the mind of circling thoughts and uncontrolled outbursts of emotions that create harm to others and to yourself.

Meditation is about increasing consciousness, moving from one level to the next. At every level, perception changes, and more compassion arises because the view has expanded. Therefore, one has more generosity, discipline, concentration, patience and gradually, transcendental knowledge.

Meditation shows in conduct. Conduct is merely the continuity of meditation. This developing process must go step by step.

What has happened in the west is that a surge of teachings from the east is freely available. It is very exciting...too exciting! We want the golden roof before we have built strong foundations. The potential for growth is very good in the west, but progress must be watched carefully, otherwise it could be detrimental.

First we hear the information, then we practise to see how and if it works for us. Gradually, through practice and reflection, we arrive at knowledge. Genuine experience. Then wisdom is revealed and realised.

Quite often, one hears claims from individuals, which might well be knowledge, but does not reveal wisdom. Wisdom is precise understanding which clarifies one's true nature and can help others to understand theirs. It is in no way vague (although sometimes it is wiser to only suggest it to others, as this allows them to complete the picture themselves). This is very important and there seem no hard and fast rules about it.

But....you have to finish all your studies! We are part of the relative world: the secret is in the unity of the inner and outer worlds (relative and absolute). If you are interested, I can explain more (I have written some other threads about this sort of stuff).

All the best
Tony

[conk]

Just know that the truth lies outside the bounds of convention. Explore alternative sources of information, finding those without a profit or power agenda. Then use your inate power of discernment to wade through what you find there. As mentioned above, it takes time. Over a period of time things will build and grow into a reasonable image of truth, while other stuff will fall aside. Truth is elegantly simple. Misdirection and lies are complicated.

[ROMANWKT]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

I was once very confident in these theories or...what should I called them...claims?? that the agenda of the Elite is controlling us and manipulating us to disconnect us from our source. The governments, elites, media are all in this big plan all together and we are slowly waking up and transforming throughout these years to understand and re-connect with our sources and once again be united back together again. Is that right? is that what is going on? That is the whole bigger picture is it?? or is that just a small part of it??
I watch and read videos and sometimes one person's sources contradicts with another...or one opposes to another in some aspects..but I believe there is only one truth. So what is it?? man...some people tell me to use the intuition and judge for yourself...but how...I haven't got the knowledge or developed my intuition to that level and plus I don't even think I have got myself unplugged out of the system... I'm 21 still studying at university, working my way in society - get a job get married and blah blah blah....what if David icke or the other sources are part of the counterintelligence and that their contribution is a plan/agenda as well?? I don't know...and now I'm lost...I don't know where this "truth" is going to lead....actually what is the "truth"??
"When you mix falsehood with truth, you create a more destructive lie" - from a book by zacharias... I think this quote in the book is quiet right...

maybe I should focus on the present moment...but I just can't stop thinking about it...

What are your views on religion?? like jesus, buddhism etc.
Is the bible/religions really an agenda? or its just that the nature of it has been manipulated so it has become a tool but it wasn't originally??
In zeitgiest or david ickes videos it mentions that religions is actually just the worship of the sun. Then where did the bible come from? from authorities? Jesus's miracles performed were just made up stories?
The bible predicts a NWO and a false light that will mislead the people...

Hi cheez_2806

I had spent many,many years in the same position as your self wanting to know the truth, I am still doing it but in a different area. What we are told that "man know thy self" stand true, because once you find out who and what YOU are, all else fall in place.

The truth is that there is no truth, its not only man made ITS MIND MADE, once you understand the illusory factor of our so called reality, you will then understand that there is not truth but WHAT IS. so what is, is a neutral state of nothing, and what we experience is our creative mind in action as the result.

All is, but it really isn't. wow that sounds like a crap answer.

Have a read of this and see if you understand, then call me

regards
romam http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

[cheez_2806]

THankyou very much you guys! it is very encouraging and helpful for me!
I am taking things a little too fast. I should slow down and continue to search for the truth within.
I will try to focus my attention on the present moment.
My intuition...hum...I'll have to work it out, at the moment I don't think whether something resonates with me or not, I haven't had that experience before. I hear then I analyse then conclude and then keep it in the head for future reference or further analyzing...its my habit to do that now. maybe that's why it caught me up in a net.....But I'm sure one day I'll work it out the resonating~~~ :)
But there's one thing...if that truth won't resonate - how can you tell whether its actually the heart that's rejecting what's been said/heard rather than the mind, to me - if something doesn't sound right - it's because either it doesn't work out logically to me or either it doesn't fit with my belief system that's probably at the mind level...I guess I should experience this first, like you guys said, it takes practice and time!

Tony - I will read and finish the posts about the relative and absolute worlds. If you don't mind, I might have to ask you somethings about it as I don't think its simple to understand it like that...it's in the post with the title meditate or not to meditate. anywhere else you might have mentioned it? wait..i'll go check it out first...

ROMANWKT - I read this post a while ago, and I remember because I had some problems with a friend and started to look through the problem within myself and I couldn't work it out! I read the post and I felt so much better, I don't know why but I began to start smiling again~ I shall read it again~
It is confusing - what is = a neutral state of nothing = so our mind creates the 3D world for us...basically there's nothing if the mind doesn't exist...is that what it means??

And, I don't know really about the issue of whether we can handle the truth or not or even given a so called "mind blowing" concept - to me, I think I can handle it, I don't have something that I would want to desperately hold on to, and a strong belief in something. I just observe and then think about it .... For me, I don't think that it would tear my reality apart or would have a break down. But who knows~ it could do that to me~ I am not even half way through my journey...wait ...or maybe I am...a psychic told me I might catch some sort of disease at around middle ages and could die~I'm thinking -man! I could leave this place! LOL but it might not happen, its all dependant on me~.

Thankyou once again!

[myrm]

Only one way to know...weigh the pieces yourself and choose what to believe out of the best you want to see happen. Info doesn't need us to claim it as our personal reality it wasn't before we ever heard of it. Chemtrails have gone away here and that is very good news. David Icke is great but he has his own mission and feelings, perceptions. right?

[eaglespirit]

Hi cheez_2806...Wishing You Well !

ENJOY, First Hand...Your Natural Surroundings, Your early morning Sunrises, Your late evening Sunsets...Daily, Your Very Own Way!

Intuition is garnered Simply...YOU are in Charge of the Process...it is Turbo-Time, Right Now!!!!

[Heyoka_11]

My intuition...hum...I'll have to work it out, at the moment I don't think whether something resonates with me or not, I haven't had that experience before. I hear then I analyse then conclude and then keep it in the head for future reference or further analyzing...its my habit to do that now. maybe that's why it caught me up in a net.....But I'm sure one day I'll work it out the resonating~~~ :)

Hi cheez,

Your habit of hearing, analyzing and concluding is normally the best we can do in earlier life, and it will stay with you always of course, only difference being is that you will learn how to tame it, and maybe actually put it in second place, behind what will be actually revealed to you. As for resonating, you'll know it when it happens! In my own experience, it was when a simple but elusive truth is revealed, without the need to either analyze or conclude; like going straight from the hearing to the knowing. Logic and reason were suspended, and yet a fresh understanding just slaps you in the face. Our need for both logic and reason are egoistic in nature, but without them, we would probably have gone extinct long ago. I hope you enjoy paradoxes!

All the Best.

[andrewgreen]

A lot of it is entertainment more than anything and like any good science fiction its good for posing questions and opening your mind. It can drive you mad if you let it but you can't control the external environment or get any definite answers from it.

[Lettherebelight]

hi Cheez...

A long time ago I was asking the same questions you are. In fact, I remember very clearly, my exact question was.."How do we know what is Truth?"
The answer that came through, from the person who at the time I considered to be my guide in this quest, was simply (after a long pause) "Through fasting and prayer."

So Cheez, Truth can present itself anywhere, at anytime.(even on a forum?:rolleyes:) If you seek the Truth, it will find you, have no doubt. Stay open and sharp.

And when you hear it, it will ring like no other vibration. You will know it, because you will be satisfied. Just like a hungry man feels after eating.

Good luck in your quest, Cheez, because everyone must walk their own exclusive path, and though Truth is one, it has unlimited expressions.

Thanks for the very high thread.

[Ade]

Strongly empathise with your distress , use your heart as a compass. The mind is very limited in it's capacity to understand' things' because it has to reduce 'things' to a linear narrative.Hope this helps.

[afflicto]

When it comes to Religion, it was most likely just the worship of the Sun and the Moon. Night and Day. The eternal struggle between the two. Good and Evil. It turned into more...and more... and more.. over the course of around maybe 20.000 years.
Certain people, societies, groups within society have sought to take this principle\belief\worship and use it for their own gain, religion was born.

BUT:
They deliberately put in good information in religion, to make it easier to fall in the trap. E.g: Reincarnation (Buddhism at least).
Some of the info is right. Most of it is just plain bull****.

I was a Satanic for a good while. Because I believed in myself, instead of a man in the sky.
And remember that the satanic bible is a book of common sense. Not a religion really.

I didn't know what "label" I needed to put on myself for a while, the only thing that made sense was Satanism.

For instance:
"If someone punches you in the face, you punch them too".
"Have fun, have sex, make babies, leave your wife, allow yourself to fall in love again."

A few things like punching other people, I wouldn't do it unless I have to.
So yea... Satanism wasn't the best thing I could put as a label, I discovered "Spiritualism" or whatever.
Decided to stick with that.

Now, I don't have any religion or anything.
I'm Afflicto, nothing more, nothing less.
I'm me.

Go on youtube and search for "The Bull God". It explains the whole god damn religion story from 20.000 years ago to the present. It takes 1 hour and 14 minutes to explain, and you might have to watch it twice, it goes quick lol :P

[Anchor]

There is just so much information out there...I just cannot figure which ones are valid/ which ones holds the truth or some of the truths.
I am not a expert in any of these fields but when I read and analyse I see the bits and pieces still - I cannot seem to get to the bigger picture. Am I not looking or searching the truth the right way or what?

You came to the right place for a starter.

Have a read of these, if you want, I selected them based on my reading of your questions, but they are not answers. They may provide context.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13753-Stand-your-ground--Trust-no-one-except-yourself-
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12377-Krishnamurti-Truth-Is-A-Pathless-Land
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5756-Confusion
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4579-Earth-changes-Discussion
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1871-Keep-Riding-The-Wave

I posted those threads, but there are heaps more all over this site with just the kinds of things you will probably find helpful making sense of it all

Take your time....

Don't explode!

Oh and like Tony said before... practising meditation more will help

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3779-Meditating-simply

John..

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I think everything depends on your perspective.

Sounds like a light claim, but I think once it dawns on you it can be pretty heavy.

[Davidallany]

Here is a truth.
When you experience a truth, that truth will resonate within you inner being,
Awesome, just simply elegant.

[Davidallany]

When it comes to Religion, it was most likely just the worship of the Sun and the Moon. Night and Day. The eternal struggle between the two. Good and Evil. It turned into more...and more... and more.. over the course of around maybe 20.000 years.
Certain people, societies, groups within society have sought to take this principle\belief\worship and use it for their own gain, religion was born.

BUT:
They deliberately put in good information in religion, to make it easier to fall in the trap. E.g: Reincarnation (Buddhism at least).
Some of the info is right. Most of it is just plain bull****.
My hat is off to you figuratively , you have understood deep and wide. Enjoy the journey afflicto.

[cheez_2806]

oh man...I just went to youtube and search bull god watched the first five parts
its quiet incredible to make this video and the info in it~ great stuff man!
continue to watch the rest~.....

[tcjim1]

If you are really seeking the truth, the truth will start with Love,........ if you are really searching for the truth, look inside yourself for the truth and you will be guided... all you have to do is ask and seek..............trust me, I know from experience..

[Davidallany]

bull god
That's the Babylonian god, EL god of cosmos, allegedly was succeeded by his son Ba'al.

[craig mitchell]

Cheez

It takes courage to not know. It takes time to know. You have posed for yourself a BIG question. Most people give up because they don't have staying power. The strength to sort it all out. Some things will get sorted into the Truth folder, some are sorted into the False folder, but most are filed in the Other folder that holds all that you can't decide on at this time.

This is what I have found: all the stuff in the post above plus a simple analogy. It's like a child's coloring book, the connect the dots kind where you start on #1 and draw a line over to #2 and continue on until you make a Big realization, before all the dots are connected, and you all of a sudden get a flash and just KNOW what the picture is and you're so stoked that you've intuited the darn thing. It's kinda of like "Oh, I get it, it's a Giraffe"!( or a spaceship, or whatever it was designed to be) Then, of course, it's all easy and clear, and your friend who is, say, looking over your shoulder trying to figure out what the heck you're up to, can't see it at all, needs more dots connected, and yet it's so plain to you 'cause you get it.....Get it?

The kids book analogy is not meant to be diminutive to any of us, I just like simple examples that are instructive......and I used to love connecting those dots, (and still do) waiting for the rush of recognition!!!

Regards, Craig...............

[Tigressa]

Everyone here is very bright and intellectual. This is good. But your brain's capacity will expand with your energy work. You must test for yourself all the theories with which you are acquainted now.
So the next step is releasing trauma's through meditation, learning how to use your energy body through practicing out of body work and developing your ability to perceive subtle energy.

I advise you stop using your brain and start using your body, stop listening to others and their theories and do the work yourself. It is much more satisfying no? Then you will have experience, you must learn to know how to use your body. Otherwise, when reality confronts you with a situation, your intellect will be a poor substitute for energy experience.

[Jake]

Everyone here is very bright and intellectual. This is good. But your brain's capacity will expand with your energy work. You must test for yourself all the theories with which you are acquainted now.
So the next step is releasing trauma's through meditation, learning how to use your energy body through practicing out of body work and developing your ability to perceive subtle energy.

I advise you stop using your brain and start using your body, stop listening to others and their theories and do the work yourself. It is much more satisfying no? Then you will have experience, you must learn to know how to use your body. Otherwise, when reality confronts you with a situation, your intellect will be a poor substitute for energy experience.

BRILLIANT!!! :):):) I love it. ;) Energy work and Out of Body work, emotional clearing and trance work and meditation. Putting it all into action for yourself,, that is the key. Learn to take back your power by learning about the astral,, and energy work is an amazing tool!!! Thank you, Tigressa.

[modwiz]

The truth, huh? A one size fits all, complete and absolute truth?

Now I'm confused.

Blessings and good luck to you on your quest.

[KosmicKat]

... A one size fits all, complete and absolute truth?

As I understand it, we have to grow into that truth. Because it is so[I] big we just [I]couldn't swallow it whole at this stage in our development. That is why I believe that the "TRUTH" is different for all of us because all of us are at different stages in development.

[Heyoka_11]

Hello again cheez,

A word or two on truth.

There is Truth, and then there is truth.

My using both a capital "T", or a lower case "t", is an attempt to differentiate between the two when writing. Truth is universal, and applies to all of us. An example may be that it is wise to behave toward your neighbour, as you would have them behave toward you. Simple! As universal Truth should be. (Except for those who prefer a dysfunctional relationship with their neighbors that is!).

Then there are personal truths, which are subjective in nature. "One man's meat is another man's poison" as the saying goes. Two people may hold diametrically opposed points of view, but as long as neither are in violation of universal Truth, then both may be equally valid. A good example here, may be one's choice of religion. A Christian may see there beliefs as taking precedence over Islamic belief, whilst the Muslim may think that Islam takes precedence over Christian teachings. Neither are correct in a universal sense, but both may be held as personal truth by the individual. In this scenario, a failure on the part of one, or both, to clearly separate universal Truth from personal truth can lead to religious intolerance, and its ultimate expression, that being war.

In my opinion, it is imperative that you differentiate between the two, as it will help you to avoid pushing your points of view as absolute Truth, and in so doing you may better learn to respect the opinions of others, and avoid conflict. Also, when setting out to clarify your own thoughts on any subject, know what it is that you are seeking; Truth or truth. If you seek Truth, then put it to the test. Ask yourself if a potential Truth could be rolled out across the board so to speak, for the benefit of all. If not, then perhaps, consider it as personal truth.

A second benefit is that you will be able to better recognise universal Truth, and I hope, ensure that you minimise your standing in violation of it.

Best Wishes.