Credo Mutwa

[Steven]

Hello fellows Avalonian second.

Since I have never seen a thread about this unavoidable character, here it is. I will only provide one link and one sentence. The rest will be yours to discover.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_credo_mutwa04.htm

Credo Mutwa is an awesome African who is holder of thousands of years of Human history. Incredibly rich in information transmitted through out African tales and culture. Africa, You are in my Heart! I got a pale skin with native blood, but when I listen to Credo, my soul is African.

Namaste, Steven

[Grizzom]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2660696496849814924#

Credo Mutwa presents: The True History of Africa
Credo Mutwa presents a cultural and historical view you are not likely to encounter in your regular history books. What I have found most fascinating are the stories related to some of Credo Mutwa's personal experiences. This is the real version of Africas history - not the history given to Africa by white colonists.

Credo's site: http://credomutwa.com

I hear he's in dire straights, please share some green love if you can and donate ;)

[Mikez]

Credo has been leeched off till near death by sycophants that took every penny he had.

Up till recently he had a stipend from somewhere but that disappeared without explanation along with 'business managers' and alike. There is a much better explanation on the Project Avalon homepage with the details required to donate to Credo. Its under '3rd April', about 2/3rds down.

It is testament to the world we live in that such a unique and wise man should be reduced to this, he is a treasure we should be caring for!


Mikez
:dizzy:

[Steven]

It's a little sad that such an amazing living monument, filled with the past of our civilization, attract such a few interested people. Once again, the popular heavy road being controversy and confrontation threads, where the sacred 'I make a point' attitude is king. So bump to Credo...

What I find most interesting in Credo's personal experiences as well as the many african tales he holds in his heart, is the very and many close links with the 'Sumerian tablets'.

Really, this guy holds our history, our true history.

Namaste, Steven

[illuminate]

Really, this guys holds our history, our true history.


Totally agree!!
THX Steven for starting this thread!

[Peace of Mind]

I didn't even think people here heard of him. thanks Steven for the thread.

Peace

[Steven]

You are welcome Peace of Mind and Illuminate. And many thanks to Mikez and Grizzom for the contribution. This interview with David Icke is a must watch. There is also an interview with Rick Martin done for a Newspaper in 1999 that is really awesome information about the african culture and its various connections with extraterrestrial contact of all kinds.

Credo can glare into the mass consciousness through "reading the bones". That is how he foresaw the oil spill in January.

http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html

Namaste, Steven

[Barron]

I didn't even think people here heard of him. thanks Steven for the thread.

Peace

Hi Peace of Mind...

Any readers here familiar with David Icke will also have heard of Credo Mutwa........

Cheers
Barron

[Steven]

Beside the 'Sumerian tablets', Credo's testemony is also very interesting to be seen with the material Klaus Dona has presented to project Camelot in his two interviews. There are many 'artefacts' Mr. Dona presented that seems to fit right into some African tales.

On another level, the testemony of Mr. Marcel Messing has also some interesting links to what Credo has to present to the world.

I easily see a formidable interview with these three poeple Credo Mutwa, Klaus Dona and Marcel Messing. Their message is interlinked and consistant. There is certainly a lot of unshakeable truth confirmed by their respective testemony.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Here is a quote from this priceless interview with Rick Martin.

Quote: '
Sir, as I have watched over many years of study, over many years of initiation of the mysteries of African shamanism, wisdom, and knowledge, I have found myself wondering why we human beings are actually destroying the Earth on which we live. We are doing something which is only done by one other species of animal, namely, the African elephant, which utterly destroys every tree in the place in which it dwells.

We human beings are doing exactly this. And wherever you go in Africa, where once there were great ancient civilizations, you find desert. For example, there is the Kalahari desert in South Africa, and under the sands of that desert, I have found the ruins of ancient cities, which means that human beings turned this stretch of land, which was once green and fertile, into a desert. And, in days when I was with explorers and safari people in the Sahara regions of Africa, I also found evidence of unbelievably ancient human habitation in places where there is nothing now but angry rock and whispering sand.

In other words, the Sahara Desert was once a fertile country and was turned into a desert by human beings. Why? I must ask myself, again and again, why are human beings being driven by insecurity, greed, and lust of power to turn the Earth into a desert in which, ultimately, no human being would ever be able to live? Why?
Although we are all aware of the terrible dangers that this will bring about, why are we cutting huge areas of jungle in Africa? Why are we on Earth carrying out the instructions which the Chitauli programmed into us? Although my mind refuses to accept this, the answer is a terrible yes, yes, yes.

Amongst the many people of wisdom who honor me with their friendship, is a man of great knowledge who lives in Israel, Dr. Sitchin. [Editor’s note: This reference is to Dr. Zecharia Sitchin, author of many provocative books about the interaction of extraterrestrial peoples with Earth humans in very ancient times.] According to the ancient books which were written by the people of Sumeria, out of clay, gods came out of the sky and forced human beings to work for them, to mine gold for them. This story is confirmed by African legends throughout Africa, that gods came out of the sky and made us into their slaves, and they made us into slaves in such a way that we would never realize that we are slaves.' End of the quotes.

I invite those interested to read more of this revealing interview with Rick Martin : http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html

Namaste, Steven

[astrid]

hello , i thought this might interest the OP ...

Oil Apocalypse Foreseen By Credo Mutwa, Hopi Indians

Zulu Shaman, or Sanusi, Credo Mutwa

In a stunning revelation, Credo Mutwa is reported to have foretold the Gulf oil disaster four months before it happened. In a notice sent out from a conference he was addressing he implies a coming oil apocolypse before 2011. However, he would not elaborate, much to the frustration of the attendees.

Following is the message that was reportedly sent from the conference.

"Credo Mutwa apparently just now said half the world's population won't see 2011 at a gathering where I'm attending.
Some delegates have walked out because he didn't want to give an acceptable explanation, he just said " it's no asteroid, comet, plaque, ... just OIL."

full story is here ....

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/45/275/Oil_Apocalypse_Foreseen_By_Credo_Mutwa,_Hopi_Indians.html

peace ,
Astrid

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Steven .. thanks for posting this...It looks very interesting...

check this out...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IEmJdYCJ_g&playnext_from=TL&videos=4TsSB85ffno&feature=sub

viking

[Steven]

Thank you dear Viking. This is an awesome video edit.

For every tears dropping from my eyes, I will add a strong focused desire of living in harmony with nature. I will wish it so hard, it will make my heart to heat like a volcano. For every single tears I drop for you Earth mother, I will kiss your green fur with tender Love for the rest of my days. We will wake up, it is never too late.

Honestly, some here knows it already, I have never feared planet X, brown dwarf, mega volcano, or cosmic wave. Simply because this is not what is written deep in me. I could be wrong. But our way of life, our silly consumer state of being, our society develop on technology and false believe, our lack of contact with our inner spirit and our over consumption that creates deserts like wild fire in the Savannah, this have always been my worse fear. My own inner combat and now, all this oil...

Namaste, Steven

[MargueriteBee]

Long ago and far away before my becoming aware, I was online looking for some science fiction videos. I popped one in of a set called The Reptilian Agenda by David Icke. I had never heard of him at that time. Well I play the video and the first few sentences were fine but after awhile I couldn't understand one word they were saying. I tried it again and still couldn't understand. I pulled it out and threw it in the donation box and forgot about it. A year later I listen to a David Icke interview on News For the Soul. I bought his books that very day and it was literally a head banging experience. Then I remembered those videos. I still had them. I popped it in and sat there and could understand every word they were saying thought I really had to pay attention to understand Credo.

[Fina]

Thank you for that video Viking, plenty food for thought...

[Bill Ryan]

This is spooky, but I add this for ..... well, the spookiness value :)

Someone I know well had a vivid dream that they were with Credo looking an an 'oil volcano'. Credo said to them: 'I TOLD YOU SO'.

My friend told me about this dream - and was shocked when I told them what Credo had said earlier in the year (referenced in this thread). They had not known this (consciously) when they dreamed it.

There could be lots of explanations for this... Credo being correct is one of them.

Night, all :)

[Solphilos]

I've always had an innate trust for the words of Credo Mutwa. I believe he is sincere in what he states, and his two apparent predictions of the oil crisis give me pause...

I recall the interview with David Icke, shown in the above video, where he speaks of the mysterious, awful red-tinged mud he foreseen in his vision of the future.
Most people that tend to make so-called prophecies, tend to predict very vague events, such as explosions, fire, flooding, etc. Credo specifically mentions this red mud. When I first watched the video last year I kept thinking, what could that red mud be that it could be a civilization wrecking phenomenon? Then this oil disaster covers the beaches in reddish, oily "mud", and then he goes on to make that previously mentioned statement about half the worlds population not making it to 2011 due to oil.

[MargueriteBee]

Awesome videos, thanks.

[Steven]

For the ones interested to read and compare the 'African tales' with some old Sumerian text, here is a good library, look for the Epic of Gilgamesh. http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/contents.html

It is quite intriguing to observe so many "links" between Credo's words and the ancient text of Sumer. But most amazingly, some tales coming from Africa, through Credo's mouth, are talking about times apparently much older than the Sumerian text tales. That is another reason to be captivated by the African history and culture. I also have encounter similar "tales" when I lived among the "caboclos" of the Amazonas jungle. And at this point, to me, there are no more doubts that our true history, as the human race and the birth of our solar system, lies in the old tales and cultures of the 5 continents. No wonder why our technological system is slowly but surely putting them aside and making them appear as ridicule and obsolete.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

For the ones interested in what Credo said about the oil spill. Here is an excerpt from this amazing interview with Rick Martin in 1999:

Quotes: 'All I do know is that the pain went away, and in place of the pain, strange visions flooded my head, visions of cities, some of which I recognized from my travels-but, cities which were half-destroyed, the buildings having their tops blown away, with windows like empty eye-sockets in a human skull. I saw these visions again and again. All the buildings that I saw were half-drowned in a reddish, muddish water.'

Later in the interview: 'So, this is why I say the strange things that flood my mind. And what flooded my mind on that day were visions from the mind of the Mantindane.' Refering to the greys.


It was in 1999.


Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Another excerpt from this interview which I find most interesting, regarding our past and our future. For those who hadn't read the interview, the Chitauli are the reptilians and Mantindane are the greys who serve the reptilians.

Quotes: '
What am I talking about? Sir, until 30 or 40 years ago, very few people cared about the environment. Very few people were concerned about the destruction of the rain forests in Africa and elsewhere. Very few people were concerned when White hunters, who, at that time were regarded as heroes, massacred Africa’s animals in the thousands. Very few people were concerned when the great nations of the world, such as the United States, Russia, Britain, and France, openly tested nuclear weapons in many parts of the world.

Today there are people who would spit at a big-game hunter if he showed himself in a hotel and announced what he was. Today a big-game hunter is no longer looked upon as a hero, but rather as a murderer. Today there are men and women, Black and White, who are prepared to risk their lives to save trees, to save animals, and to stop the insanity of testing nuclear weapons.

Sir, what does this tell you? It tells you that, after many thousands of years of being dominated by alien creatures, human beings are starting to fight back. Human beings are starting to care about the world in which they live and in which they find themselves. But, the aliens, the Chitauli, the Mantindane-call them what you will-are not going to take that lying down. They are going to punish us, as they did centuries before.

The aliens once destroyed a nation whose name has come down to us Africans as the nation of Amariri. It is said that the kings of Amariri, this fabulous country which we believed lay beyond the setting of the Sun, were refusing to do what the Chitauli were telling them to do.

The kings, at that time, were refusing to sacrifice their children to the Chitauli. They were refusing to make war on fellow human-beings, in order to sustain the Chitauli, with their god’s image. It is said that the Chitauli brought down a fire from Heaven. They took fire from the Sun itself and they used it to burn that great civilization away. They caused earthquakes and tidal waves and destroyed the great civilization of the Red people of the long green hair, who are said to have been the first people ever to be created on this Earth. It is said that the Chitauli allowed only a few surviving people to escape the destruction of Amariri, and that they are prepared to do this again in the very near future.' End of the quotes.


And here, for those knowing that the god worshipped by the illuminati (freemasons and all the rest) is Jabulon. Here is what Credo has to say about Jabulon, god of the freemasons.


Quotes: 'Jabulon, sir, is a very strange god. He is supposed to be the leader of the Chitauli. He is a god, to my great surprise, which I find certain groups of White people, especially, worshipping. We have known about Jabulon for many, many centuries, we Black people. But I am surprised that there are White people who worship this god, and these people, amongst them are people whom many have blamed for all the things that have happened on this Earth, namely, the Freemason people. We believe that Jabulon is the leader of the Chitauli. He is the Old One. And one of his names, in the African language, sir, is Umbaba-Samahongo-“the lord king, the great father of the terrible eyes”-because we believe that Jabulon has got one eye which, if he opens it, you die if he looks at you.
It is said, sir, the Umbaba ran away from an eastern land during a power struggle with one of his sons, and he took refuge in Central Africa, where he hides in a cave, deep underground. And it is an amazing thing, sir-it is said that under the Mountains of the Moon in Zaire is this great city of copper, of many thousands of shining buildings. There dwells the god Umbaba or Jabulon. And this god is waiting for the day when the surface of the Earth will be cleared of human beings so that he, and his children, the Chitauli, can come out and enjoy the heat of the Sun.'

Later in the interview...

"Martin: Yes. I would like to go back to the copper city for a moment. It would seem that this Jabulon would be the equivalent of what, in the West, we call Satan. Would you say that?

Credo Mutwa: I think so, yes, sir. He is the chief of the Chitauli. And, like Satan, he lives in a house underground where great fires are always lighted, to keep him warm. Because, we are told, that after the great war they fought with God, they became cold in their blood and they cannot stand freezing weather, which is why they require human blood, and also they require fire always to be kept working where they are.

Martin: Well it’s been said, in the recent video tape that David Icke has put out, that the shape-shifting reptilians, in order to maintain their façade, their cover, their human-like appearance, they must drink human blood. And there is something about the blond gene, apparently. Now, I don’t know what...

Credo Mutwa: Yes. Mr. David Icke shared that a little with me, sir. He told me that, repeatedly, golden-haired people get sacrificed by the Chitauli , and then I told him, in my turn, what I know from Africa. You see, sir, not all Africans have got black hair. There are Africans who are regarded as very holy, as very sacred. These are Africans who are born with natural red hair. These Africans are believed to be very spiritually powerful. Now, in Africa, such people, albeamers or red-headed Africans, were the most victims of sacrifice, especially when they were just entering maturity-whether they were males or females." End of the quotes.

That is most revealing...

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Here is a poem from Credo, a pledge for the good fight...



"When kings are slain, and a pope is sent to hell,
when on a marble slab..a murdered princess lies,
a pale sacrifice to the beasts that rule the stars,

When out of the sky a stricken warplane falls,
trailing behind it long bridal veils of flame,
as missiles rage and red hot cannon roar...

When the battle tank briefly rules the blood drenched plains,
an iron tyrant on another's stolen throne...
and it's long cannon shatters the trembling skies with sound,

When nameless soldiers die friendless and unknown,
in Africa's valleys or Kosovo's snow-bound plains,
and whole tribes perish of hunger, disease and war...

When money is built into a jail to hold humankind
and love has died and compassion is unknown...
and lies become truth... and truth becomes a lie in a nameless city

When, in streets who have no love,
numberless children know hunger and abuse...
In countless homes where brute force rules supreme,

women have become blood-spattered slaves,
strangers to love, healing and respect,
strangers to the gentle and comforting word...

Whose guilty shoulders must bear
the heavy beam of crucifixion, all the ill we see?
Whose quivering back must bear the barbed scourge?

For all the evil and all the pain we have known

Weavers of lies, brewers of lies,
who can strike at people with weapons of the night

against which no armour and no shield can prevail.
The written word is their poison-coated sword,
the tinkeling coin their cull and crop of maize...

Murderers of nations, Africa's deadliest foes,
I curse your footsteps wherever you may go,
In whichever cave or dungheap you may hide,

I curse you all...may Heaven blast your eyes.
Tell Jabulon, the demon you call God,
Nomabhunu's son defies him to his face,

I swear by the stones on my mother's sacred grave,
that as from this moment, I will fight you to the end.
Against your kind, against your Masters too,

I will not cease to raise the Sword of Light.
For all you have done and all you have yet to do,
I will fight you to the ending of my days....."

Credo Mutwa

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

World Cup 2010


This year, the world cup is in South Africa, the country of the zulu people, the country of Credo Mutwa. The world cup is the world event. All eyes are in south Africa.

Now, for this special year, the FIFA brings up a new ball, completly redesigned with new technology, not very popular among the players, but very popular for its strange behavior ;). And what is the name of this ball : JABULANI. Is it in reference to Jabulon, the king of the Chitauli (reptilians) and the god of the Freemason?

More, when you look at this ball, from any angle, you will recognize what Credo calls a Mantidane's head or a greys. The two large eyes are so obvious.

So, is it coincidence? A ball called Jabulani, that looks like a grey alien, for the world cup hold in South Africa, the country of Credo... There is no coincidence...

Namaste, Steven

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Steven that is pretty amazing about the football and 'Jabulani' ... Disclosure wouldn't go amiss!!! ;-)

Anyway bumped into this ...not sure if it has been posted here... bit concerned about him saying that half of the world population won't see 2011!!!!!!!!!

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/45/275/Oil_Apocalypse_Foreseen_By_Credo_Mutwa,_Hopi_Indians.html

Zulu Shaman, or Sanusi, Credo Mutwa

In a stunning revelation, Credo Mutwa is reported to have foretold the Gulf oil disaster four months before it happened. In a notice sent out from a conference he was addressing he implies a coming oil apocolypse before 2011. However, he would not elaborate, much to the frustration of the attendees.

Following is the message that was reportedly sent from the conference.

"Credo Mutwa apparently just now said half the world's population won't see 2011 at a gathering where I'm attending.
Some delegates have walked out because he didn't want to give an acceptable explanation, he just said " it's no asteroid, comet, plaque, ... just OIL."
The Hopi Prophecies Also Foresaw "The Sea Turning Black"

Famous for their accurate depiction of the damaging onslaught of "civilization" on their lands, the Hopi prophecies distinctly describe oil pollution of the seas. It is the seventh prediction
in this poignant video.

viking

[Steven]

Indeed Viking,

There is also another man who wrote a book in 1921; "Gustav Meyrink, Petroleum Petroleum A Prophecy" that exactly talks about the oil spill of the golf of Mexico. It goes further by saying the entire ocean are covered with a thin film of oil and prevent water to evaporate, so no rain.

What Credo and Mr. Meyrink saw is caused by their ability to connect with the mass consciousness of Earth and humanity. Their subconscious gather all kind of information from it and process it to a given result. They see possibilities, some are obvious and almost certain to happen. It is a state of consciousness. But because our consciousness evolve and is influenced by the reality, the mass consciousness change and the reality unfolding change accordingly. Creation is also doing its part, by spiritual beings working for the best of all, at the spiritual (consciousness) level. That is why I am very hopeful. I think these events will indeed happen, but at a very different magnitude, lesser damage, but strong enough to awake enough human about our urgency to change our way of life. It looks like this nuclear war stopped by the russian intervention in october 2008. Or the collapse of the american dollar, or the massive flu pandemic and its vaccination program. The have been forseen, predicted, happened, but at a lesser magnitude with reduced effect in comparison to how it was "seen" initially.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

As it is the World Cup in South Africa. For the African culture and history. For all African on Earth. For this people descendant of all cultures, elders of the Human of Earth. The rare pearl unique in the cosmos. Our souls are all African. I will fight with you Credo. Be blessed by Creation itself Africa, may the great Spirit comes to you and give you the strength to overcome All of your challenges.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Sb5INPAzk&feature=player_embedded

Namaste, Steven

[onawah]

Great thread. Thanks Steven. Mention should also be made of Michael Tellinger whose work is giving clear evidence of what Credo has asserted about our history and origins.
He is interviewed here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bIXCwb9nAo&feature=related
as well as here, by Kerry Cassidy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLib4K0U2-A
and in an interview with Credo Mutwa here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8QHDdegVWc&feature=related

It occurs to me that the two enemies of mankind that Credo Mutwa names, the Reptilians and the Greys, represent the two aspects of our own human nature that has caused so many problems throughout our history. The Reptilian represents aggression and dominance, and the Greys represent the elevating of the intellect at the expense of our connection to Nature and the All.

[Steven]

Thank you Onawah. Michael Tellinger work is awesome.

Here is a poem Credo wrote about Obama. Is it prophetical? Time will tell, notice the comparison he makes with Kennedy around the assassination idea.

'An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life wearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon’s gown.
Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life holding out hope as bright as it is false.
Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood of ancient Ireland and dark Africa’s plains.
You are Obama, nick-named the standing king You are Barack, oh, son born to receive

The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you, See a black savior where nought but a Judas strides.

An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope
Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are. May those who hope in you behold you as you be
A prince deceitful to bring down Africa’s shrines
A siren who leads Africa’s ships onto rocks of obliteration.
Your rule my lord will not be one of peace
Your reign my king will not be one of smiles
Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a bloodwet martyr’s crown.
Oh black Kennedy following the one before May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse
As you walk in silence from the stage of life Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king.'

Vusamazulu Mutwa

Namaste, Steven

[onawah]

I respect Credo Mutwa and what he has to say, but I think Obama is doing the best that anyone could do at this late stage. More of someone like Bush would most certainly have been much worse. It's not as if someone could really initiate huge changes for the better without getting stopped by TPTB. I think Obama will be able, with the help of the LightSide, to stay the course and do at least as much good as can be done for now, and prevent the worst from happening, until the tide has turned enough to make bolder strides. I pray for him.
Of course, it could be said the worst has already been done, but it takes a lot to wake up enough people to really make a difference and enough of an outcry to galvanize enough leaders to actually stand up to the corporations and say NO! They can only act in safety if there are enough of the populace to stand behind them. I think it's a razor's edge we walk upon.
Just my two cents.

[Tuza]

I have much respect for Credo but with the poem thing please help me to understand someone. At first I am thinking he is painting Obama has a sort of antichrist then he goes on to say fundamentalists in dark caves will be trying to make him a martyr like Kennedy. Someone explain something here to me, I am getting too old.

[Steven]

I have much respect for Credo but with the poem thing please help me to understand someone. At first I am thinking he is painting Obama has a sort of antichrist then he goes on to say fundamentalists in dark caves will be trying to make him a martyr like Kennedy. Someone explain something here to me, I am getting too old.

Hello Tuza. Here is what I can say.

Obama is a freemason, a high degree freemason. But it is well hidden in his personal pedigree. It explains why Credo present Obama, a black man, who at the front, gives hopes of real change in the high politic area, while at the same time, he hides his true allegiance inherent to all high degree freemason; the worshiping of Jabulon. For Credo, this is the real enemy of the world. The first black man in the history of the United States. A country, built with the slavery of black African, that after 300 years, put a black man at the presidency. It is like Lula in Brazil, when an ex-miner, who used to be illiterate, take the power of the country. The symbology behind is amazingly significative, knowing also, that black people are only seen on Earth. They are the genuine race of Earth. The hopes are high, but the guy is a high degree freemason, worshiper of Jabulon.

And if you read some of Credo's talk, you will notice he says a very interesting thing. He said that all the human kings, who have served and followed the Chitauli's (reptilian) plan, have all received a horrid death, like a sacrifice. And to Credo's perspective, Obama is a Jabulon's follower, a high degree freemason who worship the Chitauli's lord. This explains why he sees a puppet being sacrificed. What the poem does not tell, but comes out between the lines, is that Obama might not been following his lord's will. That explains the comparison with Kennedy.

Namaste, Steven

[Tuza]

Aaah, I am finding out a lot I didn't know before, thank you Steven. Namaste.

[Steven]

Here is an interview with Michael Tellinger made in september 2008. There is 6 parts of the entire document.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8QHDdegVWc

Here is a small talks with Oxai Roura, there is 2 parts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDPm0l6vqGk

Namaste, Steven

[pilotsimone]

World Cup 2010


This year, the world cup is in South Africa, the country of the zulu people, the country of Credo Mutwa. The world cup is the world event. All eyes are in south Africa.

Now, for this special year, the FIFA brings up a new ball, completly redesigned with new technology, not very popular among the players, but very popular for its strange behavior ;). And what is the name of this ball : JABULANI. Is it in reference to Jabulon, the king of the Chitauli (reptilians) and the god of the Freemason?

More, when you look at this ball, from any angle, you will recognize what Credo calls a Mantidane's head or a greys. The two large eyes are so obvious.

So, is it coincidence? A ball called Jabulani, that looks like a grey alien, for the world cup hold in South Africa, the country of Credo... There is no coincidence...



Saw this in the news today and immediately thought of this thread.

World Cup Soccer Ball Flaws Acknowledged By FIFA, No Action Till After Tournament (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/26/world-cup-soccer-ball-fla_n_626536.html)

Many players have likened the Jabulani to a "supermarket ball," saying it is too unpredictable and flies through the air too easily.

Goalkeepers have complained about the ball at every recent World Cup, although this time forwards and even coaches have added their laments.

Brazil coach Dunga got into a verbal spat with Valcke over the Jabulani before the tournament, challenging the FIFA executive to come out onto the pitch and attempt controlling it.

Denmark defender Daniel Agger said the ball made some outfielders look like "drunken sailors." :)

[Steven]

Saw this in the news today and immediately thought of this thread.

World Cup Soccer Ball Flaws Acknowledged By FIFA, No Action Till After Tournament (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/26/world-cup-soccer-ball-fla_n_626536.html)

Many players have likened the Jabulani to a "supermarket ball," saying it is too unpredictable and flies through the air too easily.

Goalkeepers have complained about the ball at every recent World Cup, although this time forwards and even coaches have added their laments.

Brazil coach Dunga got into a verbal spat with Valcke over the Jabulani before the tournament, challenging the FIFA executive to come out onto the pitch and attempt controlling it.

Denmark defender Daniel Agger said the ball made some outfielders look like "drunken sailors." :)

"We recognize a tree by its fruits". Officially, the word Jabulani means "rejoice" in zulu. But what a coincidence with Jabulon, the real enemy according to Credo Mutwa, lost in the underworld at the city of copper, Umbaba. Here is an interesting piece of interview with Credo about it:

Quotes: "Jabulon, sir, is a very strange god. He is supposed to be the leader of the Chitauli. He is a god, to my great surprise, which I find certain groups of White people, especially, worshiping. We have known about Jabulon for many, many centuries, we Black people. But I am surprised that there are White people who worship this god, and these people, amongst them are people whom many have blamed for all the things that have happened on this Earth, namely, the Freemason people. We believe that Jabulon is the leader of the Chitauli. He is the Old One. And one of his names, in the African language, sir, is Umbaba-Samahongo-“the lord king, the great father of the terrible eyes”-because we believe that Jabulon has got one eye which, if he opens it, you die if he looks at you.

It is said, sir, the Umbaba ran away from an eastern land during a power struggle with one of his sons, and he took refuge in Central Africa, where he hides in a cave, deep underground. And it is an amazing thing, sir-it is said that under the Mountains of the Moon in Zaire is this great city of copper, of many thousands of shining buildings. There dwells the god Umbaba or Jabulon. And this god is waiting for the day when the surface of the Earth will be cleared of human beings so that he, and his children, the Chitauli, can come out and enjoy the heat of the Sun.

And, one day, sir, I had a very unexpected visit while I was living in Soweto, near Johannesburg. I was visited by priests from Tibet.

One of these priests, I’m sure you have met him or you know of him. His name is Akyong Rinpochce. He is one of the leading Tibetan priests in England who was exiled with the Dalai Lama, and he visited me one day while I was in my medicinal village in Soweto. And one of the things that Akyong Rinpochce asked me was, “Do I know of a secret city which is somewhere in Africa, a city made of copper?”

I said, “But, Akyong, you are describing the city of Umbaba, the city of the unseen god, the god who hides underground. How do you know about this?” And Akyong Rinpochce, who is a very serious investigator of strange phenomena, told me that at one time the great Lama left Tibet with a group of followers and came to Africa searching for this city. And the Lama, and his followers, were never seen again. They never returned back to Tibet.

Now, sir, we have got stories in central and southern Africa about little Yellow men who came to Africa looking for the city of Umbaba, the city from which you cannot return alive. What is amazing, sir-I don’t know whether this falls within the orbit of your newspaper, but-there are very, very disturbing stories which I have followed-up here in South Africa, stories which make no sense to me. "

Namaste, Steven

[fifi]

I have just finished reading the interview of Credo Mutwa by Rick Martin. It's truly amazing. Thank you so much, Steve, for sharing this information.

[Steven]

I have just finished reading the interview of Credo Mutwa by Rick Martin. It's truly amazing. Thank you so much, Steve, for sharing this information.

You are welcome Fifi. In my opinion, any serious researcher about our true history should read this interview. It clarifies so many information received here and there. The sumerian tablets, the real nature of the devil and demons so present in every religion, the original human specie, etc...

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Here is an interesting text with Credo about Crop Circle in Africa over its history.

http://kornkreise-forschung.de/textCredoMutwa.htm

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

For you dear mother Africa, mother of all nations. You have suffered much, but like the return of the pendulum, the next century is yours, it will be the rebirth of the African culture. The Earth culture will walk into your footprint.

My heart and soul is with you Africa. Nkosi Sikeleli Africa.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYd1LLQKEfU&feature=related

Beautiful people! Art in their blood!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpM4JRlGMk&feature=related

Namaste, Steven

[Micjer]

Here is a look at the soccer ball for those that have not seen it.

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[Steven]

Here is a look at the soccer ball for those that have not seen it.

Great Micjer! Many thanks for this video. The way 'Addidas' designed the three large ovals on the ball makes it so in almost any angle, you can see a big round head with two large eyes, similar to what a 'mantindane' looks like. Thanks again, great find.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

Here is a very interesting interview with both Credo Mutwa and David Ikes.

Made by Nicole Whitney for "News for the soul" in June 2005.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdxtszuJWg&feature=related

Namaste, Steven

[kinsuemei2]

if you call ignoring Darfor because you take a backhander from the CIA doing your best then yeah great pres....

[Steven]

if you call ignoring Darfor because you take a backhander from the CIA doing your best then yeah great pres....

??? May you be a bit more clear please? I feel you wrote in one sentence what should have taken at least 10. I do have a small idea of what you might mean, but please go ahead and explain what's in your mind.

Namaste, Steven

[kinsuemei2]

I am sorry I was reffering to Onwahs post about Obama doign his best considering, unfortunatley his best is not good enough, I remember the election and the lead up and he got thoe of us who actually give a dam all hyped about his new proposel for Darfur and how he would help to change the nature of the beats over there.. So I was excited then of course Obama got elected a wonderful day for the country and on a whole, and I felt scared for obama and happy that he might be able to do something.. well after two meetings with Leon Panetta and a some cash in had plesantrys.. it was like SSDD and thats when I knew from the ealry on this guy is as shady as the rest.

and I wanted to give him a chance and he blew it, and other stuff has happened so you know in my opinion his best is not good at all. and people can say what they like, my heart is in africa with africans because I have witnessed the suffereing and the pain and the hunger and the plight, I have seen women who have had to walk 5 miles to get water every day and every day they worry about being raped maimed or murdered, by men that are animals and deserve putting down.

so I am passionate about this, about Burma and the plight of the Karen people, and indeed the black gold in the Niger Delta, the stories about the blood diamonds and its all relevent because as long as 80% of the US people are worring about how Lyndsey Lohan dose in prison were all iceskating up hill, and the fact is false flag or not 9/11 taught them NOTHING!!! they just only the people it directly impacted at ground central and people that lost loved ones. now they have gotten back into that complacent sate of mind where everythings cool and they just don't get it!

I was sick when I saw the WWII ceremonies and they talked about how many brave americans died at pearl, and yes thats great to remember those men and women, but don't stop remmebering! remember the fact thats SOO many men women children died at Nagasaki at Hiroshima, whats the problem corperate america is too ashamed to remember them? oh wait they don't give a dam because it does not affect them.

Some times human beings need conflict other wise we have nothing to fight for, nothing to be passionate for and nothing to do with each other unless were thrown together in times of need, because were an insane race of beings that dose not care about this planet untill we have destroyed it to the point of no return. 'THEY' wont look for solutions, and if we find solutions that work and end up costing them money or power then "WE' become the problem, and they act, only when it serves them on an imediate level.

I am sorry but I am angry, because I know I have never been the type of guy to walk away or let somebody else deal with a problem alone, but some wars are to big to fight alone, and the fight for the people of africa, of burma, is one that has gone on for a long time, and still nobody gets it, or I SHOULD say very few get it. I know some passionate people here on this forum that do GET IT! but the question is will you read this then an hour passes before you forget about this post and look forward to texting your friend, dose two go past before you think about your line up of the TV for the night, or what you will eat because food in most western cultures is a luxury not a nescessity, or will you remember when your reach for your aquafina or bottled springwater thats so readily avalible, that fact is it's not a crime but some of you WILL forget. And we constantly have to remind you that by ignoring this is as bad as letting it happen, we can not stop it all, we can't do it all, but we can honour those who have fallen and those who stand within the fire EVERY SINGLE DAY just to simply live. Because by forgetting about them, then were still truley alseep, were still aiding this by our lack of vison and we are only help our concoius by forgetting.

[Steven]

I am sorry I was reffering to Onwahs post...in my heart is in africa with africans because I have witnessed the suffereing and the pain and the hunger and the plight...

Ah! Now I understand ;) Thank you for your explaination.

I share your passion, share your pain and frustration. We might live it differently, but the source is still there, active.

On one side, Earth and its tremendous diversity of life in which we are passionate, on the other side, greed of an outside Elite who destroys this so beautiful planet and its life in a system in which we are locked in.

It seems the problems are bigger than the solution and the problems hurts, because we love life. I have two kids, two marvelous boys with myriads of qualities. I want the best for them, I want them to be happy, balanced, evolved. The love I have for them is unmeasurable. Its also the same love I have for Life. That's why frustration and pains come; because we hurt what we love.

On the other hand, I don't know why, but deep inside of me, their is a profound conviction that Life will prevail and the future of planet Earth, humanity, including first the African continent is full of good news...

Thanks Kinssuemei2 for your passion,

Namaste, Steven

[Celine]

i agree with you steven, though it does not change the pain...

[greybeard]

My partner Rosaline is Black Africa a native of Cameroon.
It grieves her that only the poverty, the misery, is highlighted in Africa, mainly by charities wanting your money.
A lot of Africa, she informs me, is thriving and is good shape, yes it needs help, but she was quick to point out there are many in Scotland living in desperate situations.
They tend to be overlooked be cause the charities with the money are promoting overseas aid and these charities have the money to advertise on TV big time.
A lot of the money donated goes into management and advertising. If I donate and I do, I want to know what percentage of the money actually goes to those in need.
Corruption also a big problem, quite a bit of aid goes into the pocket of those in power in underprivileged countries
No country has a monopoly on desperate situations, its world wide.
Im just being aware and for me the real answer is the raising of consciousness, a spiritually evolved society will look after all, without exception.
Chris

[Celine]

when i was 19, i was priviledge to go to cameroon, my dad has worked in many african countries.

Cameroon is a beautiful country and its people are beautiful.

i was blessed to see the world from a very different persepctive at a young age...

Most of the issues i see in Africa, have to do with involvement of non africans...

I remember a big billboard advertising baby formula, upsetting me well i was in Yaounde.

See i was pregnant at the time...and i just couldnt understand how one would promote bottle feeding to these women??

Ofcourse the sponsoring company was Nestle...

[onawah]

Kinsuemei2, my apologies for triggering so much pain with my remarks, but hopefully some healing catharsis has resulted.
I too have struggled with disappointment over what the Obama administration has been unable, or has neglected to do, but I just keep reminding myself how much worse off we might be now if we put a Republican in the White House. The lesser of two evils at this point may be all we can hope for, but remembering how I felt when Bush was elected, and all through his presidency, in comparison, at least I still have a glimmer of hope left that things could have been much worse. In times like these, perhaps we can only avoid disappointment by reducing our expectations to a more realistic level. That's really all I meant.
With the overwhelming amount of dysfunction in the world now on so many levels, I can only keep my chin up if I keep faith that as the current paradigm crumbles and falls, something much better is even now being created to take its' place.
I wish you peace and renewed faith in whatever gives you hope.

[kinsuemei2]

Onawah, maybe I was also a little sharp with my reply, I also struggled with this disappointment because it was the greatest opportunity that was wasted in my opinion, I think a republican would have cause more problems but the dance in Washington is just a soap opera for our viewing pleasure, i think certain aspects of the way the country is run won't change, at least not unless its forced to, under a stress full act.

[onawah]

Kinsuemei2 wrote "i think certain aspects of the way the country is run won't change, at least not unless its forced to".
I think so too, and no one person can really make as much of a difference as we would have liked Obama to have made, I believe. It's going to have to be a much more universal awakening on the parts of many to really make the changes we need. Some are awakening, some are freaking out, and it's quite a dance we are all doing here! For me, Obama's election was a much needed though short reprieve from the past ever worsening nightmare of Bushism, but now it's going to take a lot more from all of us who are awake to get through this Shift.

[Enlightenment101]

Tuza, what he is Saying is Obama isn't about hope he isn't about fixing anything he was groomed to do what he has done, which is lead us to what ever the elites have in store for us next, and I won't go into the rest of what I can read into his words here in this poem, but I can say what it says Ive thought about myself,

[Houman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGGYZNdmzo

[illuminate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qi1sB9WUTI

David Icke and I (Bill Ryan) recently met with Credo Mutwa, the great Zulu shaman, healer, and keeper of African tradition. He told us a horror story.

The short version of what happened is this. A few months ago, earlier in 2010, Credo was being pestered daily over the phone by someone who claimed he was from a group of young Zulus about his "betrayal of the Zulu nation" by talking so much to white people.

Exasperated, he put the famous and priceless Necklace of the Mysteries on his shoulders and took a train to Swaziland to confront the people who were giving him such a hard time.

When he arrived, he was set upon and tortured. They started pulling his fingernails out with pliers. The Necklace was taken from him, and he was put on a train back home. In the background, throughout all this, was a white man whom Credo did not recognize.

If you know ANYTHING about the theft of this priceless, ancient artifact, of inestimable value to the history of Africa and the human race - but very likely now in the hands of white men who are only interested in money - please contact DavidIckeContact@aol.com in full confidence. Thank you.

Bill Ryan
22 August 2010

[AlphaZebra]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_qi1sB9WUTI/2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qi1sB9WUTI&feature=youtube_gdata)
The torture of Credo Mutwa and the theft of the Necklace of Mysteries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qi1sB9WUTI&feature=youtube_gdata)

David Icke and I (Bill Ryan) recently met with Credo Mutwa, the great Zulu shaman, healer, and keeper of African tradition. He told us a horror story. The short version of what happened is this. A few months ago, earlier in 2010, Credo was being pestered daily over the phone by someone who claimed he was from a group of young Zulus about his "betrayal of the Zulu nation" by talking so much to white people. Exasperated, he put the famous and priceless Necklace of the Mysteries on his shoulders and took a train to Swaziland to confront the people who were giving him such a hard time. When he arrived, he was set upon and tortured. They started pulling his fingernails out with pliers. The Necklace was taken from him, and he was put on a train back home. In the background, throughout all this, was a white man whom Credo did not recognize. If you know ANYTHING about the theft of this priceless, ancient artifact, of inestimable value to the history of Africa and the human race - but very likely now in the hands of white men who are only interested in money - please contact DavidIckeContact@aol.com in full confidence. Thank you. Bill Ryan 22 August 2010 http://credomutwa.com http://davidicke.com http://projectavalon.net
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[Celine]

Incredible...

Such horror...incredible sins played out.

Glad to know Bill and David are helping him

My heart to Credo and his family...and may the necklace find its resting place around the neck of the worthy...

be well,
love,
celine

[wynderer]

Credo -- that dear, good man -- i wish he would not blame himself for the theft -- & such a warrior -- all alone but standing up to them, & escaping w/his life

i suspect the Reptilians behind this -- their reliance on symbols/archetypes as the main way to control/manipulate human minds -- they have probably coveted the Necklace of the Mysteries for a long long time -- the hatred/fear of David also

at some point, the theft of the Necklace & the cruelty to Credo will blow up in the faces of whoever did this -- like Arizona Wilder said in one of her interviews [not the one David did] -- the Reptilian NWO doesn't know how to handle the new energies coming in -- they must really be getting desperate to attack a man of Credo's spiritual stature & power

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi Folks -

Many thanks to Illuminate who beat me to it! :)

I'm in South Africa at the moment with David Icke. We've been with Credo Mutwa for several days and will be here for another week.

I just updated the Avalon main page. Copied from there...

Credo is not beaten. Though blaming himself for being so cavalier, he is as articulate and spellbinding in his delivery as always. This is David's fourth visit to see him, their first meeting being in 1997. It is my first.

I've been privileged to meet many extremely remarkable people in the last few years, but I have to say that Credo in the upper reaches of that long list. Today we recorded three hours of his life story (and what a story that is).

I was honored to be in the room while he was talking to David: I was more than blown away. David himself was at one point reduced to tears.

I was aware of his work and his story, of course, but I had not been really been prepared for the impact of meeting him personally. I'm not here as an interviewer on this trip: I'm here as cameraman with the challenging job of making all the audio and video work in highly non-optimum conditions. But I would have paid a great deal of money to be where I was today.

We're here for another week, and will be recording material from Credo for several hours every day. He is now 89, and while he is mentally and intellectually razor sharp (I would place him as a gifted and fluent speaker the equal of anyone I have ever met), he is not well and is suffering a great deal: both he and David feel sure it will be their last meeting. It has been quite an emotional and eventful trip so far.

I'll report more later, although internet access is very limited. The resulting videos will not be Avalon material, but will be sold as a DVD set to support Credo's family and work. We've not yet figured exactly how we will proceed... all that will come later.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank an extremely generous sponsor - and if you are reading this, you know exactly who you are - who has made this special trip possible for David and myself.

When David phoned Credo a few months ago to tell him we were coming to record his life's work and teachings, Credo wept. What we are doing together is that important to him, and despite his recent ordeal is he rising to the occasion every day.

He is in my opinion somewhere right up there with the greatest of great souls, a wonderful human being, an extraordinary inspiration, a spokesman for Africa and for all of mankind.

True to that depiction, he would laugh at what I have just written...

Love to all, Bill

[Arpheus]

Man thats sad news,i wonder if thats a tptb job,i remember on the first david icke interview with him he mentioned that there was a piece of something that come from the stars inside one particular ornament hanging from the necklace,something like an alien alloy or similar if my memory serves me right?Maybe thats what the people who stole it took it for?Its sad to see such a piece of mankind's history to be stolen like that,we will probably never hear from it again :(

[Fredkc]

The moment I heard that B.R. and D. I. were speaking to him, I wondered about what Credo Mutwa was about.

I am now almost half way through this 1999 interview (http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html), and it is incredible (don't be fooled by the date. The man's words are both timeless and timely).

He is a fountain of knowledge on so many topics. An astounding array of topics, all interwoven, and with a plain spoken delivery.

Hope you enjoy,
Fred

[Arpheus]

Very true fred too bad that such type of shamanism is about to go extinct to this day credo hasnt been able to find a person to pass his ancient knowledge of history down to,he says its hard to find the right person,his son was assassinated at young age that was his first choice,he knows so much and he says he is running out of time,after all he is 89 now,so if he cant find someone worthy of being passed the knowledge to it will die with him,lets hope thats not the case...

[Enlightenment101]

Hearing this news deeply upset me, even if I don't personally know this man, I have watched all the video's about him, my thoughts are with him, and may what was taken from this man be returned to him,

[onawah]

It must be maddening for Credo Mutwa to see the destruction of his homeland all around him. He is a national treasure himself, and should be protected. Perhaps he felt a need to take a "last stand" against all the destruction. It's very sad that his plans went so awry, but perhaps something good will come of it in the end. We can only hope.

[Celine]

Our love to one and all..


Beauty surrounds beautiful people..



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[sepia]

I'm very glad that you are able to support in this important task !

With very best wishes to all involved !

[jaybee]

That is so upsetting and infuriating. For that to happen to him is just so wrong.

Unfortunately the necklace is probably in someone's private collection now. But he was able to give quite a good description of the white man
who was driving the whole sorry incident......maybe....maybe....someone who recognises the decription might make it their business to help get
it back. I expect there is a lot of jealousy and back-stabbing in the world of private ancient artefact collectors.......someone could earn themselves
a lot of karmic brownie points....if they somehow could help return it. If only for the satisfaction of denying the thief of thier spoils...??

[irishspirit]

WOW!

That poor man and his family. To have a piece of that nations historty, a nation that has been through so much and come out the other end, stolen from it is heartbreaking. A national treasure, a universial treasure of the "old God's", in the hands of evil is beyond words.

I send energy to this breave soul and his family, and energy to those that have done so bad, in the hope that they will find it within them to return this item.

Be safe Bill and David!

Please pass on my love to Credo and his family!

[Agape]

That's truely heartbreaking story. But what makes me happy is that I can feel lots of spiritual strenght in this man and lots of courage , wisdom that is similar to wisdom of all shamans and seers of old, no matter what is their tribe and ancestry .
I understand how he feels but I feel that the Necklace is not with white people, it's still with locals, yes, they could even sell it because there's lots of poverty .
Possibly, if this Video message can be posted in open, in their country , they will bring it back to him because there are people who love him, stand for him and believe that it should be returned.

It's important to let him know that his people love him and don't let him fall .

Thank you Bill for sharing the Message with us


:angel:

[Celine]

i agree dear Eva heart...

The necklace will be resting on worthy neck, soon again.

[AndyWept]

My heart leapt when I saw this post and I can only imagine the hurt and loss these events must have caused. I have followed Credo with great interest over many years; having even met with a cameraman who had (as you do Bill) the exceptional good fortune of recording one of his interviews. I was astounded! Whilst I do not know him personally, I feel somewhat overwhelmed by this news! I am unsure as to what I can do, but if there is anything I can contribute (along with my prayers) in any small way, please let me know.

Andy Wept

[Lost Soul]

I hope he finds someone to pass his knowledge onto before he passes.

[Celine]

i believe that is what Bill is doing there..

[fifi]

I'm shocked and so sad to hear Credo has been tortured. He's 89 years old, for Gods sake! I'm looking forward to the DVD set, and will buy it as soon as it is produced. That's the least I can do to support him. Thank you very much Bill, for making this long trip to get the information for us. I really hope the priceless necklace will be returned to its rightful owner again someday.

[bennycog]

i am on board with supporting you credo.. and dave and bill ! you guys are guys doing good greater than you could imagine in this world..
with love bennycog

[Steven]

I hope he finds someone to pass his knowledge onto before he passes.

This saddens me. I knew he was in dire situation, but torture have bad consequences. I am also sad about the theft.

On the other hands, Credo is a strong spirit, getting stronger as ages passes, while his body gets weaker. Bill and David will do an awesome work with him. It is an opportunity to record his knowledge for the world and future generation. I am almost sure that is the very reason why he has been attacked. He is a zulu shaman with secret knowledge who have decided to share it with the world because of the time we live in. He stated in a few interviews that some of his knowledge were reserved only for shaman. But he decided to share it because of the urgency of the world. Now, some few zulu fanatic are expressing their anger about it. It gives me one more reason to treat him like a very very courageous man. An example of life for us all.

My blessings to you Credo, I suggest that we all hold him in our spirit to bless his soul, his life, his beloved and his country.

For those wanting to know a bit more about Credo, here is a thread I made about him a couple months ago : http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2642-Credo-Mutwa

Thanks Bill and keep the good work.

Namaste, Steven

[rosie]

Bill and David, you are on a very fine mission and I wish only the best for Credo Mutwa and all concerned. Looking forward to this amazing life story,
be safe,

peace & love :wub:

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I love Credo Mutwa. He is an inspiration to us all, a truly wise old soul and always a pleasure. :)

[AlphaZebra]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eSJF0z5-CJg/2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJF0z5-CJg&feature=youtube_gdata)
David Icke and Credo Mutwa : Temples of Peace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJF0z5-CJg&feature=youtube_gdata)

This is a very beautiful little cameo of the great Zulu shaman, teacher and philosopher Credo Mutwa, now in his 89th year, also featuring an unplanned, inspiring speech by David Icke. Enjoy the traditional singing at the end...! Unbelievably, Credo was recently tortured, and the famous and priceless Necklace of the Mysteries was taken from him. He is quite unbowed by his traumatic experience - as you can see here. Bill Ryan Project Avalon Recorded 22 August 2010 http://credomutwa.com http://davidicke.com http://projectavalon.net
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[Snowbird]

The children are beautiful! Thanks Celine for sharing that picture.

I have to admit that up until yesterday, I knew little about Credo Mutwa's story and the absolute complexity of his situation. That was, until I read through the article that Fred linked in post #6. I now have a much greater understanding and respect for this man and his mission on earth.

The people who conned, stole from and grossly harmed Credo Mutwa have stated that David Icke is considered by them to be the white devil. Being a white woman, I will happily join with David Icke and Bill Ryan and all others who affectionately support Credo Mutwa and make great and unselfish attempts to further his message and bring this information into the light of day. This message is harsh and must be viewed without criticism. It is true. What he states, has happened. However, the past is the past and we now have loving and compassionate brothers and sisters in close dimensions and planes who are supporting us and watching over us into the future. They are here to help.

The stolen necklace is important to the people, and I will pray and meditate for its return, but I am hoping that the people of the Zulu nation will look forward to a brighter future and years ahead without strife and lack.

[rosie]

quote:
Nobody knows what this device was. Nobody knows how it had got into my wife's uterus, but before my wife passed away, I received a threatening letter warning me not to talk to a man named David Icke or else my wife would die. I did not take that warning seriously, and my wife died within two weeks after I had received it. I have every reason to be angry with the frot that is called western civilization. I have every reason to be angry with the various foreign religions that enslave our peoples minds and blinker their vision. I have every reason to be angry with education systems that rob our people of their true worth, of the truth about themselves. This is my friends is Credo Mutwa.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_credo_mutwa04.htm

I am praying for divine intervention for Credo's safety and his story to be told. When I read this statement above, it made me weep, he has lost so much, but is forging ahead, even with the death threats regarding talking to David. The truth must be told, but what cost will be paid?

Bill, David, please be very cautious there, sometimes we can get swept up in the moment, and now is not the time to let your guards drop. Something is in the air, and it does not feel right.

Praying for all,
in love & light :love:

[Rimbaud]

I love this Man!

Rimbaud

[Ixopoborn]

I was fascinated by skimming through the Credo material Steven has been kind enough to highlight this. Marvellous stuff indeed and I will definately want to explore this in much more detail.

My Avalon handle, Ixopoborn, hints at the fact that I was born in South Africa, the land of Credo. In fact I was born in Ixopo, Natal very near it seems to Credo's birth place. My parents’ farm overlooked the Umkomaas River, I think the same river described by Credo as the Umkumazi River.

My early childhood was spent on a remote farm in Natal with Zulu people all around me. Credo's writing style reminds me so much about my early childhood. Zulus are noble, proud, caring and naturally poetic in their manner of speech. Unfortunately, I don't speak Zulu for reasons too boring to go into but my father spoke the language to a high level completely free of any foreign accent as do all my current day relatives still living in Natal, South Africa. I live in the UK but still feel very much at home in Africa, not just South Africa.

The material is interesting from a research standpoint because, of course, it is completely untainted by any suspicion of being rewritten for political convenience. On the other hand, gainsayers will assert that the tribal stories of reptilian roots are unreliable because of the high probability of variations in the story being introduced from generation to generation of story telling. The retort to this point is, as Credo indicates, that the story of the reptilian link is persistent in the culture of African and Australian indigenous people - possibly others. Whilst not conclusive in any way, the tribal stories significantly bolster other independent sources of information of reptilian influences.

Zulus were one of the most highly organised and sophisticated of all the African tribes, certainly at the time of European colonialisation. The Zulus and English understood each other from the get go. The Zulus understood the English appetite for Empire building because that is exactly what the Zulus had themselves been doing on a lesser scale in Africa prior to the arrival of the English.

Like Credo, I strongly suspect that Africa's current plight as a continent gripped by poverty and conflict is connected to Western influence. Having seen at close quarters how international aid operates in Africa, it is very tempting to conclude that aid has had the opposite effect of that which is proclaimed by the aid givers. Certainly, there is plenty of "smoking gun" evidence to suggest that Africa continues to be under the controlling grip of Western elites who regard the continent as of crucial importance for mineral and other natural resources. The controlling elite would therefore do all in its power to keep the population of Africa low and keep its people ignorant and unable to offer resistance to its plans. This much I think is true.

The controlling influence from the West doesn't explain the whole picture of what goes on in Africa. There has been an immense clash of cultures on the continent since European colonialisation. The African culture is tribal whereas European culture is about competitive trading. Some choose to explain the differences that exist in terms of a form of evolution - evolution of thought structures as opposed to biological. "Spiral dynamics" is the name given to this theory of thought evolution. Personally, I subscribe to this as a very helpful way of explaining large cultural differences.

Tribal culture is natural, beautiful and orderly but in many ways far more brutal than Western culture. Boundaries of caring are more restricted under tribal culture. Tribal thinking leads the individual to conclude that only people of the same tribe are worthy of protection - all others are worthy of attack.

Western culture, for all its ills, entails a more far reaching boundary of caring. I can already hear in my mind retorts from many Avalonians to the effect that Western culture is also tribal in nature. This is, of course, very true and this too is explained under the above theory.

Spiral dynamics does not propose that less evolved modes of behaviour are ever completely abandoned - they remain well understood and used from time to time. Rather, it offers an explanation of the most sophisticated form of thought yet in evidence. Spiral dynamics explains very neatly the actions of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe. From his tribal mindset perspective, he has executed his authority with perfect judgement! He has no trouble sleeping at night. The killing he has authorised is not a crime in his mindset because the people that have been killed were already his property to do with as he pleases.

So here is where I depart slightly from Credo's analysis about the current day causes of poverty and strife in Africa. I am pretty certain that the West has been playing a very cleverly deceptive strategy in Africa aimed at making it appear that the continent is failing despite all efforts from the West to assist.

Unfortunately, Africa is not helping itself in the situation by so easily falling prey to crude controlling strategies from the West and by not evolving its thought constructs fast enough to offer a good defense against such abuse. The ease with which the West has its way is neatly explained through an understanding of evolution of thought structures offered by spiral dynamics.

[Celine]

Great post Ixopoborn!!

Thank you for your insightful perspective.

I have had the oppurtunity to visit that continent..and i must say..the world does not know the true Africa

[theguardian]

..the world does not know the true Africa

So True, I Agree

[Ixopoborn]

Great post Ixopoborn!!

Thank you for your insightful perspective.

I have had the oppurtunity to visit that continent..and i must say..the world does not know the true Africa

Thanks Celine my pleasure.

[BrianEn]

Whoever takes possession of the stolen necklace will have to return it or face its wrath unless it's returned. The people who stole it and tortured Credo already have their fates sealed. There's nothing no one can for them unless its safe return.

[nomadguy]

bizarre coincidence
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11109726

[wynderer]

bizarre coincidence
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11109726

not a coincidence; no connection, i think -- here's a link to a site that's been around for awhile -- the huge Saudi royal family have been doing the kind of thing in the link you posted for a long long time

http://www.sauduction.com/issues/01

personally i think there is a lot of reptilian DNA in the family

[Fredkc]

Sure glad people are spreading the news of this.
as of 5 min. ago, Googling: "Credo Mutwa Necklace of the Mysteries"
produces 7,120 hits.

Fred

[AlphaZebra]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-2sUkuYuXlQ/2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2sUkuYuXlQ&feature=youtube_gdata)
CREDO MUTWA : BEFORE MY EYES CLOSE IN DEATH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2sUkuYuXlQ&feature=youtube_gdata)

This wonderful and inspiring short speech - a heartfelt and passionate appeal for Africa by the great Zulu shaman, author, historian and philosopher Credo Mutwa - was recorded while David Icke and I (Bill Ryan) were visiting him at his South African home in August 2010 to record his life's story - and more. Here's the story of how this remarkable clip was captured. I had just that minute switched on the microphone, and had asked Credo to say a word or two as a routine audio test. I thought he might say "1-2-3", or "Hello, hello". What he said instead was worthy of an appeal to the United Nations by one of the great statesmen of the world. It was quite unplanned, and I was fortunate to be able to record it all. This moving speech is MUST WATCH essential viewing for anyone who knows Credo Mutwa's life and work, and for anyone who cares about the fate of Africa. Bill Ryan PROJECT AVALON August 2010 http://credomutwa.com http://projectavalon.net http://davidicke.com
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[AlphaZebra]

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Credo Mutwa AIDS hospital appeal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FLF5YdJWc&feature=youtube_gdata)

Credo Mutwa, the great Zulu historian, author, philosopher and shaman, is building a small hospital behind his home for local AIDS victims. Please help him and his wife Virginia complete this wonderful project. In this short video David Icke, his closest friend, makes an appeal for those in the western world to help Credo complete this project before he finally leaves us. Appeal details: A/c name: Credo Mutwa Tshedisa Sechaba A/c number: 62 24 76 19 94 5 Bank: First National Bank Branch: Kuruman Branch code: 23 03 02 Address: 20 Beare Street, Kuruman 8460, South Africa Swiftcode: FIRNZAJJ 0277 http://davidicke.com http://credomutwa.com http://projectavalon.net
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[Ethereal Blue Being]

I hope Mr Mutwa is able to complet ethis small hospital ad I hope he gets alot of MMS to treat the patients.

[Zillah]

Sure glad people are spreading the news of this.
as of 5 min. ago, Googling: "Credo Mutwa Necklace of the Mysteries"
produces 7,120 hits.

Fred

I 2nd that - this event has brought even more awareness to Credo and the people.

There is undoubtedly a force working against the truth that is being told - and altho pain was cast upon Credo, at least now more will stand up to hear the true history that is close to being wiped out. There are no coincidences.

With much love and honor.

[str8thinker]

Thank you all for your sincere comments and sympathy for Credo.

By reading this thread I came across the transcript of Rick Martin's 1999 interview with him (http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.htm (http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html)l). Two things about his story struck me and I would like to share these with you.

First, reports of children (often girls) being swallowed up by mountains occurs all over the world, anecdotally and in myth. Recall the tale of the Pied Piper of Hamelin (Robert Browning's poem), who extracted his revenge on the town's council for not paying him for removing the rats by enchanting all the town's children so that they followed him into the mountain (except one who was lame).

Here in Australia we have the fictitious novel Picnic at Hanging Rock which was made into a successful 1975 film. It is about "a trip by a party of girls from Appleyard College, a fictitious upper class private boarding school, who travel to Hanging Rock in the Mount Macedon area, Victoria, for a picnic on Valentine's Day 1900. The excursion ends in tragedy when three of the girls, and later one their teachers, mysteriously vanish while climbing the rock" (Wikipedia).

At the time, the plot made no sense to me, though now it does, and even though a work of fiction it bears a remarkable similarity to Credo's stories of white girls who disappear in similar circumstances in South Africa. One wonders where the author (Joan Lindsay) got her idea.

As for the alien women with bright red pubic hair who mated with him on the table, perhaps the most famous documented instance of such a being is found in the abduction of Antonio Villas-Boas (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/boas-abduction.htm).

[yuhui]

There are so many invisible wars going on that continent and his words grieves me, hope the necklace will be soon found.

[AlphaZebra]

FR Credo Mutwa before my eyes close in death


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEtnmpjAJo

"Mon plus grand souhait, mes honorables amis, est que la vérité soit exprimée, avant que la mort ne finisse par me clore les yeux. Cette nuit j'ai pensé qu'enfin, après tout ce temps, je trouverais le repos dont j'ai besoin. Je ne peux pas vivre dans un monde où existe tant de mal, un monde qui possède simultanément tant de capacité pour le bien."

Kuruman (Afrique du Sud), le 24 août 2010

Propos recueillis par Bill Ryan
www.projectavalon.net/lang/fr/flag.html

[Ammit]

Try here..link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEtnmpjAJo)

[willow]

Has there been any update on the recovery of the Necklace of Mysteries?

[xm15e2]

off topic, but months ago when i watched credos interview, i actually had a dream about it, not many details to even dream about getting any info out of or anything, but it was still wierd, all i saw was 4 or 5 (native) men with the necklace laying on a table, i imagine it was something my mind made up it was late when i watched the video and didnt sleep long, but when i woke up it was like i was told it hasnt went far, i just thought id share in case any1 else has 1 a similar experience, never know

[Richard]

I could sit and listen to this man indefinitely.
enjoy. :)

I must share this story with you. It is one of the strangest stories that you find everywhere in Africa in shamanic secret societies and other places where the remnant of our ancient knowledge and wisdom are still preserved. It is that, originally, the Earth was covered by a very thick blanket of fog or mist. That people could not actually see the Sun in the sky, except as a nimble of light. And they also saw the Moon at night as a gentle claw of light in the sky, because there was this heavy mist. And the rain was always falling in a steady drizzle. There was no thunder, however. There were no storms.

The world was thickly covered with great forests, great jungles, and people lived in peace on Earth at that time. People were happy and it is said, at that time, we human beings did not have the power of speech. We only made funny sounds like happy monkeys and baboons, but we did not have speech as we now have it. And in those centuries, people spoke to each other through their mind.

A man could call his wife thinking about her, thinking about the shape of her face, the smell of her body, and the feel of hair as a woman. That a hunter would go out into the bush and call out for animals to come, and the animals would select one of their number which was old and tired, and this animal would offer itself to the hunter so that he may kill it quickly and take it as meat to his cave.

There was no violence against animals. There was no violence against Nature by human beings at that time. Man used to ask for food from Nature. He used to come to a tree and think about fruit, and the tree would allow some of its fruit to fall to the ground, and man would take it.

And then it is said, however, that when the Chitauli came to Earth, they arrived in terrible vessels which flew through the air, vessels which were shaped like great bowls and which made a terrible noise and a terrible fire in the sky. And the Chitauli told human beings, whom they gathered together by force with whips of lightning, that they were great gods from the sky and that from now on they would receive a number of great gifts from the god. These so-called gods, who were like human beings, but very tall, with a long tail, and with terrible burning eyes, some of them had two eyes-yellow, bright eyes-some had three eyes, the red, round eye being in the center of their forehead. These creatures then took away the great powers that human beings had: the power of speaking through the mind only, the power of moving objects with their mind only, the power of seeing into the future and into their past, and the power to travel, spiritually, to different worlds.

All of these great powers the Chitauli took away from human beings and they gave human beings a new power, now, the power of speech. But, human beings found, to their horror, that the power of speech divided human beings, instead of uniting them, because the Chitauli cunningly created different languages, and they caused a great quarrel between people. Also, the Chitauli did something which has never been done before: they gave human beings people to rule over them, and they said, “These are your kings, these are your chiefs. They have our blood in them. They are our children, and you must listen to these people because they will speak on our behalf. If you don’t, we are going punish you very terribly.”

Before the coming of the Chitauli, before the coming of the Imbulu creatures, human beings were spiritually one. But when the Chitauli came, human beings became divided, both spiritually as well as by language.

And then, human beings were given strange new feelings by the Chitauli. Human beings started to feel unsafe, and so they started making villages with very strong fences of wood around them. Human beings started becoming country makers. In other words, they started creating tribes and tribe lands, which had borders, which they defended against any possible enemy. Human beings became ambitious and greedy and they wanted to acquire wealth in the form of cattle, and sea shells.

And, another thing the Chitauli forced human beings to do, they forced human beings to mine into the Earth. The Chitauli activated human women and made them to discover minerals and metals of certain types. Women discovered copper; women discovered gold; women discovered silver. And, eventually, they were guided by the Chitauli to alloy these metals and to create new metals which had never existed in Nature before, metals such as bronze and brass and others.

Now, the Chitauli, further, removed the sacred rain-bringing mist from the sky and for the first time since creation, human beings looked up and saw stars, and the Chitauli told human beings that they have been wrong in believing that God dwelt under the Earth. “From now on,” the Chitauli told people of this Earth, “the people of Earth must believe that God is in Heaven and they must do things here on Earth which would please this God who is in Heaven.”

You see, originally, human beings had believed that God was underground, that she was a very great mother who dwelt under the Earth because they saw all the green things growing from under the Earth-the grass came from below ground, the trees grew from below ground, and the people had believed, therefore, that the dead people who died go underground. But when the Chitauli turned humans’ eyes towards the sky, people started believing, now, that God is in the sky and that those who die from this Earth don’t go underground, but go up into the sky.

And to this day, sir, throughout Africa wherever you go as an investigator, you will find this amazing-these two amazing ideas which conflict with each other.

Many African tribes believe in what is called Midzimu or Badimo. Now, the word Midzimu or Badimo means “them who are in the sky”. But, in Zulu-land, amongst my people, you find this amazing schism going hand-in-hand. There are Zulus who believe that the dead ones are the Abapansi, which means “the ones who are below, who are under the Earth”. Then there is another idea which says Abapezulu. The word Abapezulu means “those who are above”, and the word Abapansi, which is the oldest name for the spirits of the dead, means “they who are under the Earth”.

So, even today, sir, all over Africa amongst hundreds of tribes, you find this strange double-belief that the dead go into the sky, and side-by-side with the belief that the dead die and go under the Earth. This belief that the dead die and go under the Earth is said to date to the days when our people believed that God was a woman, the great Cosmic Mother. And, it is contrasted by the Abapezulu belief that God is a man who dwells in the sky.

Now, sir, another thing that the Chitauli told our people, it is said, is that we human beings are here on Earth to change the Earth and to make it suitable for “God” to come down one day and dwell in it. And it is said that they who work to change this Earth and make it safe for the serpent god, the Chitauli, to come and dwell in it, will be rewarded with great power and with great wealth.

Sir, as I have watched over many years of study, over many years of initiation of the mysteries of African shamanism, wisdom, and knowledge, I have found myself wondering why we human beings are actually destroying the Earth on which we live. We are doing something which is only done by one other species of animal, namely, the African elephant, which utterly destroys every tree in the place in which it dwells.

We human beings are doing exactly this. And wherever you go in Africa, where once there were great ancient civilizations, you find desert. For example, there is the Kalahari desert in South Africa, and under the sands of that desert, I have found the ruins of ancient cities, which means that human beings turned this stretch of land, which was once green and fertile, into a desert. And, in days when I was with explorers and safari people in the Sahara regions of Africa, I also found evidence of unbelievably ancient human habitation in places where there is nothing now but angry rock and whispering sand.

In other words, the Sahara Desert was once a fertile country and was turned into a desert by human beings. Why? I must ask myself, again and again, why are human beings being driven by insecurity, greed, and lust of power to turn the Earth into a desert in which, ultimately, no human being would ever be able to live? Why?

Although we are all aware of the terrible dangers that this will bring about, why are we cutting huge areas of jungle in Africa? Why are we on Earth carrying out the instructions which the Chitauli programmed into us? Although my mind refuses to accept this, the answer is a terrible yes, yes, yes.

Amongst the many people of wisdom who honor me with their friendship, is a man of great knowledge who lives in Israel, Dr. Sitchin. [Editor’s note: This reference is to Dr. Zecharia Sitchin, author of many provocative books about the interaction of extraterrestrial peoples with Earth humans in very ancient times.] According to the ancient books which were written by the people of Sumeria, out of clay, gods came out of the sky and forced human beings to work for them, to mine gold for them. This story is confirmed by African legends throughout Africa, that gods came out of the sky and made us into their slaves, and they made us into slaves in such a way that we would never realize that we are slaves.

One other thing that our people say is that the Chitauli prey upon us like vultures. They raise some of us, they fill some of us with great anger and great ambition, and they make these people they’ve raised into great warriors who make terrible war. But, in the end, the Chitauli do not allow these great leaders, these great war chiefs and kings, to die peacefully. The warrior chief is used to make as much war as possible, to kill as many of his people, and those he calls enemies, as possible, and then, in the end, the warrior chief dies a terrible death, with his blood being spilled by others.

And this phenomenon I have seen in my people’s history, again and again and again. Our great King Shaka Zulu, he fought over 200 great wars during the reign of some 30-something years. And then, he was slaughtered and he died a violent death. He died a broken man who, because of the death of his mother, had no longer the power to win any more battles.

And, before Shaka Zulu, there was another king who trained Shaka to become the great king that he was. That king’s name was Dingiswayo. Dingiswayo had fought great wars trying to unite the Zulu people into one great tribe. He had seen the White people of the Cape and he thought that, by uniting his people into one huge nation, he would be able to repel the threat to his people which the White people posed. But, what happened was, after winning many battles of uniting many tribes, King Dingiswayo suddenly became striken by an eye disease which made him almost blind. And he hid this secret that he could no longer see. But, that terrible secret was discovered by a woman, a queen of another tribe, called Ntombazi. Ntombazi took a battle ax and beheaded Dingiswayo with one blow, after she had lured him into her hut and given him food and beer to drink.

There is also a similar phenomenon with great White leaders: Napoleon, in Europe, who died a miserable death on his lonely island in the Atlantic Ocean; Hitler, also in Europe, who died a terrible death by putting the gun in the mouth and killing himself, we are told; Attila the Hun, who was killed by a woman, and many other great leaders who came to a sticky end after giving as much death and misery to as many people as they could.

King Shaka was stabbed to death by his half-brother, who used on him the same type of spear that he had designed to kill people as quickly as possible. And, Julius Caesar also met a similar fate after he, like our Shaka Zulu, had conquered many nations.

Always the warrior hero dies a death that he, really, should not die. King Arthur, in England, was killed by his own son, Mordred after a long and courageous reign. I could go on and on and on.

Now, all these things, if you bring them together, they show that whether people laugh at this or not, whether people scoff at this or not, there is a certain power that is guiding we human beings toward the dark river of self-destruction. And the sooner many of us become aware of this, the better, perhaps, we might be able to deal with it.

Martin: Do you believe that these beings are around the world equally, or are they primarily focused in Africa?

Credo Mutwa: Sir, I believe that these creatures are everywhere on Earth, and with respect, sir, although I hate talking about myself so much, I am a person who has traveled to many parts of the world. I have been to your country, the United States, sir. I have been to Australia. I have been to Japan, amongst other countries.

And no matter where I have gone, sir, I have found people telling me about creatures like this. For example, in 1997, I visited Australia, sir, and I traveled a lot to try and find the Black people of Australia, the Aborigine. And when I did find them, they told me a number of things that astonished me very, very much. The same things that I’d found in Japan, I found in Taiwan. Everywhere where there are still shaman and traditional healers, you find these amazing stories.

Now, let me tell you, sir, what I found in Australia alone. This, that the Australian Aborigine people, who call themselves Coorie, which means “our people”: The Coorie people of Australia believe in a great creating god called Byamie, sir. A Coorie shaman, in fact, several of them, drew me pictures of this Byamie, and one of them showed me a rock painting representing this strange creator god who came out of the stars. And when they placed their drawing in front of me, what they showed was a Chitauli. I recognized it from my African initiation. It had a large head. It had large eyes, which were stressed by the artist. It had no mouth, and it had long arms and incredibly long legs. Sir, this was a typical depiction of a Chitauli which I knew from my own people in Africa.

I asked myself “Why?” Here I am in a country many thousands of miles away from Africa, and here I am seeing a being known as the Biamai or Bimi, who is a creature with which I, the African, am familiar.

Amongst the Native American people, sir, I found, for example, amongst certain tribes in America, tribes such as the Hopi people, and those people who stay in those buildings called a pueblo, I found that these people-they have got what are called Katchina creatures, where people wear masks and disguise themselves as certain creatures. And some of these Katchinas are very, very tall, with a huge round head.

Exactly as we have in Africa, I found similar creatures in America. In Africa we call these creatures Egwugwu, or, we call them by another name, called Chinyawu. The Katchina of the Native American people, and the Chinyawu of our people, are identical beings. Now, why should this be? When were American Native people and Africans in contact? When? This is one of the greatest mysteries of all time, sir. It is one of many things that I found throughout the world which left me utterly amazed.

There ARE such creatures, and the sooner skeptics amongst us face up to this fact, the better it shall be. Why is human-kind not progressing? Why are we running around in a great circle of self-destruction and mutual-destruction?

People are basically good; I believe this. People don’t want to start wars. People don’t want to destroy the world in which they stay, but there are creatures, or there is power that is driving we human beings toward self-annihilation. And the sooner we recognize this, the better.
Source: http://www.metatech.org/credo_mutwa.html


http://credomutwa.com/

[OneLittleFrog]

Credo's words are like a breath of fresh, earthy, misty air.....thank you Richard. A strangely comforting read, even with the tragic history he tells. Fascinating about finding the same descriptions in Australia, Asia, and the Native American peoples.

FWIW, my imagined pre-Annunaki/Chitauli earth looks much like what he describes, wrapped in a pleasant mist, with effortless, natural telepathic communication, and - I imagine - musical intruments used as communication too. In my slightly different view, the 'people' - in whatever furry, homely, peaceful form they might have had :) - didn't kill and eat the other creatures, but subsisted on fruit & vegetation. (At least that's how I'd like to imagine it.:)) And death was not the physical trauma it is now, but simply the time to leave the body behind and free the soul to move on to.........What? Where? My imagination comes up short there...:confused:

I'm glad to read Credo's admiration of the late Zecharia Sitchin; like Credo, another person who fills me with a comforting sense of honesty, integrity, and true knowledge. I generally trust my BS detector; both Credo and Zecharia ring true to me.



Credo
"Now, all these things, if you bring them together, they show that whether people laugh at this or not, whether people scoff at this or not, there is a certain power that is guiding we human beings toward the dark river of self-destruction. And the sooner many of us become aware of this, the better, perhaps, we might be able to deal with it."

I hope we hear more from Credo again soon......real soon.

[arctourist]

i think that was really a bad move,to put himself in a position to let the necklace thing get stolen like that....most regrettable! do you think he'll ever get it back-or did he....yes what a great man....

[AlkaMyst]

Awesome post Richard......Greatly appreciate it, Reading right now!!!

[astrid]

Awesome Richard thank you so much for posting.
When Credo talks, its time to listen....

[WhiteStar]

A Very Powerful Message indeed.


Here is a poem from Credo, a pledge for the good fight...



"When kings are slain, and a pope is sent to hell,
when on a marble slab..a murdered princess lies,
a pale sacrifice to the beasts that rule the stars,

When out of the sky a stricken warplane falls,
trailing behind it long bridal veils of flame,
as missiles rage and red hot cannon roar...

When the battle tank briefly rules the blood drenched plains,
an iron tyrant on another's stolen throne...
and it's long cannon shatters the trembling skies with sound,

When nameless soldiers die friendless and unknown,
in Africa's valleys or Kosovo's snow-bound plains,
and whole tribes perish of hunger, disease and war...

When money is built into a jail to hold humankind
and love has died and compassion is unknown...
and lies become truth... and truth becomes a lie in a nameless city

When, in streets who have no love,
numberless children know hunger and abuse...
In countless homes where brute force rules supreme,

women have become blood-spattered slaves,
strangers to love, healing and respect,
strangers to the gentle and comforting word...

Whose guilty shoulders must bear
the heavy beam of crucifixion, all the ill we see?
Whose quivering back must bear the barbed scourge?

For all the evil and all the pain we have known

Weavers of lies, brewers of lies,
who can strike at people with weapons of the night

against which no armour and no shield can prevail.
The written word is their poison-coated sword,
the tinkeling coin their cull and crop of maize...

Murderers of nations, Africa's deadliest foes,
I curse your footsteps wherever you may go,
In whichever cave or dungheap you may hide,

I curse you all...may Heaven blast your eyes.
Tell Jabulon, the demon you call God,
Nomabhunu's son defies him to his face,

I swear by the stones on my mother's sacred grave,
that as from this moment, I will fight you to the end.
Against your kind, against your Masters too,

I will not cease to raise the Sword of Light.
For all you have done and all you have yet to do,
I will fight you to the ending of my days....."

Credo Mutwa

Namaste, Steven

[Patrikas]

Creators Blessings to you and all who align themselves with you work .......stay well

[Steven]

A Very Powerful Message indeed.

Credo Mutwa is one rare strong spirit. Unique of his kind. His words are powerful, because they are rooted in the experience of Life, not intellectualizing for ego flattery.

I hope is knowledge will spread like wildfire in the Savannah.

Namaste, Steven

[WhiteStar]

quote:
Nobody knows what this device was. Nobody knows how it had got into my wife's uterus, but before my wife passed away, I received a threatening letter warning me not to talk to a man named David Icke or else my wife would die. I did not take that warning seriously, and my wife died within two weeks after I had received it. I have every reason to be angry with the frot that is called western civilization. I have every reason to be angry with the various foreign religions that enslave our peoples minds and blinker their vision. I have every reason to be angry with education systems that rob our people of their true worth, of the truth about themselves. This is my friends is Credo Mutwa.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_credo_mutwa04.htm

I am praying for divine intervention for Credo's safety and his story to be told. When I read this statement above, it made me weep, he has lost so much, but is forging ahead, even with the death threats regarding talking to David. The truth must be told, but what cost will be paid?

Bill, David, please be very cautious there, sometimes we can get swept up in the moment, and now is not the time to let your guards drop. Something is in the air, and it does not feel right.

Praying for all,
in love & light :love:

Dear rosie,

Thank you for sharing this message and providing such a valuable link for more of Credo's wonderful stories.
This information is amazing! I have never seen/heard of this before. Thank you!

Credo tells us more of some of the other gods who were extremely benevolent and kind, this is truly fascinating to read.


There are tribes in various parts of Africa which regard themselves as God's chosen people. These tribes call themselves by a name which means god.

In South Africa there is a tribe that calls itself the Tonga, and another very large group which calls itself the Tsonga. And in Zimbabwe there are two tribes ,one of which is called the Batonga, and another that is called the Tongaila. The name Tonga, Tsonga or Donga means people of god and you will find these people living in some of the holiest and most spiritual places in Africa.

For example, the Matonga people of Northern Zululand live in the area of the sacred St Lucia Lake which is believed by the Zulu people and other tribes in Natal to be the place where, hundreds of years ago, the great earth mother arrived in a boat of reeds, accompanied by her son and his two wives.

And she came to give laws, culture, religion as well as healing arts, and other mysteries to human beings. It is said that the great earth mother was a huge woman, very, very fat with bright green skin and so was her son and his two wives.

There once existed in Zimbabwe a very sacred place called Kariba Gorge, which is now covered by a huge lake as a result of the damming of the Zambizi River at this place. In Kariba Gorge there lived two remarkable tribes, the Batonga, which means people of God, and the more remarkable tribe whose name is the Tongaila.

Tonga as you know means God, but the word Ila also means god, thus the Tongaila people are called the people of the God Ila- the wise old god, who according to some stories created the earth and everything in it. The Tonga and the Tongaila used to tell me that not only are the chosen people sent by God to guard the Kariba Gorge, but they are also in yearly touch with the great gods who come from the stars, whom they call the Bananaila, the children of Ila.

Now let us go to West Africa for a while, in the land of the Dogon, there, one is told that when the Nommo arrived from the sky in their fantastic sky ship, there were several of them, thirteen or fourteen of them.

And they created a lake around their sky ship and every morning they used to swim from their sky ship to the shores of the lake and there preach to the people who assembled in large numbers around the lake.

It is said that before the Nommo departed, returning with a great noise back to their home star, they first chose one of their number, killed it and cut its body up into little pieces and then gave these pieces to the assembled people to eat in the first sacrificial ritual of its kind on earth.

When the people had eaten the sacred flesh of the star creature and drunk its blood mixed with water, the Nommo took the lower jaw of their creature and by some incredible fact of magic brought the whole creature back to life again.

We are told that this is the way that the Nommo taught our people that there is no death and that behind every death there shall be a resurrection.

And also that an individual must sometimes sacrifice himself or herself for the good of the community. It is the Nommo, we are told that taught the people of Africa about the mysteries of reincarnation, about the belief that, that which goes away, gone off on the wings of death, will always come back again on the fragrant wings of life.


In the land of Nigeria, we hear of how the great mother goddess, Mawi gave birth to human beings after having created the world, and that after a number of centuries, people on earth became filled with selfishness and other forms of negative behaviour and the great mother who was now in the land of the gods, sent down her daughter, Gabato, to earth to once more place human beings upon the path of righteous.

[Steven]

We need to Unite :frusty: ... :o

Here are powerful words from Credo about the ultimate goal for hUmaNITY.


Native Wisdom

If We Are to Survive . . . . .
". . . . . if humanity is to survive, if it is to repair the damage done to the earth, then the human race must unite and unite firmly in spirit! No race, no people should be left out of the great quest for human spiritual unity, which will travel then to all races, all religions, all cultures, for unity among us, the human inhabitants of this earth. What breaks my heart is that spiritual people don't want to unite. They don't want to even talk to each other. You find groups which do their own thing, ignoring others as if they are the sole possessors of the great truth of eternity. They are not. They are just silly little children playing with something they found on the dusty road. We must unite! There are things to be discovered. There are searches to be made. There is a cleaner, healthier world to build and it can be done by uniting human beings across every spectrum of human society."


~ Spoken by Credo Vusamazulu Mutwa, leader and Spiritual leader of the Zulu Nation. [1997]



Namaste, Steven

[Fredkc]

Thank You Steven.
This man needs and deserves the "artifact" returned to his custody.

The people who have it are squatting over it because they think they're going to get somewhere "important" by having their genetics altered via stolen property.

Maybe there is a place where DNA trumps consciousness; where torture and robbery achieves nirvana, and they can have it.

What will they have left, when what should rightfully be in Credo's custody is returned?
Fred

[Steven]

You're welcome Fred,

Credo took a great risk in sharing shamanic secrets to the world. He explained why he decided to brake the rule by stating that now is the time for all to know. It is one more courageous act he took for us all. I will be grateful for this act for the rest of my life.

He deserves his necklace back with a whole lot of gratitude for what he did. I hope Bill will make available the whole of the footage he made with him last year.

Namaste, Steven

[AlkaMyst]

WhiteStar

A Very Powerful Message indeed.

Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
Here is a poem from Credo, a pledge for the good fight...

"When kings are slain, and a pope is sent to hell,
when on a marble slab..a murdered princess lies,
a pale sacrifice to the beasts that rule the stars,

When out of the sky a stricken warplane falls,
trailing behind it long bridal veils of flame,
as missiles rage and red hot cannon roar...

When the battle tank briefly rules the blood drenched plains,
an iron tyrant on another's stolen throne...
and it's long cannon shatters the trembling skies with sound,

When nameless soldiers die friendless and unknown,
in Africa's valleys or Kosovo's snow-bound plains,
and whole tribes perish of hunger, disease and war...

When money is built into a jail to hold humankind
and love has died and compassion is unknown...
and lies become truth... and truth becomes a lie in a nameless city

When, in streets who have no love,
numberless children know hunger and abuse...
In countless homes where brute force rules supreme,

women have become blood-spattered slaves,
strangers to love, healing and respect,
strangers to the gentle and comforting word...

Whose guilty shoulders must bear
the heavy beam of crucifixion, all the ill we see?
Whose quivering back must bear the barbed scourge?

For all the evil and all the pain we have known

Weavers of lies, brewers of lies,
who can strike at people with weapons of the night

against which no armour and no shield can prevail.
The written word is their poison-coated sword,
the tinkeling coin their cull and crop of maize...

Murderers of nations, Africa's deadliest foes,
I curse your footsteps wherever you may go,
In whichever cave or dungheap you may hide,

I curse you all...may Heaven blast your eyes.
Tell Jabulon, the demon you call God,
Nomabhunu's son defies him to his face,

I swear by the stones on my mother's sacred grave,
that as from this moment, I will fight you to the end.
Against your kind, against your Masters too,

I will not cease to raise the Sword of Light.
For all you have done and all you have yet to do,
I will fight you to the ending of my days....."

Credo Mutwa

Namaste, Steven


Truly Amazing, thank you for sharing this......I am greatly appreciative and humbled at this!!!

My heart stops when this man speaks, his wisdom is beyond words!

http://www9l.incredimail.com/scache/im//gallery/content/200806181240/content_12355_prev.gif

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[str8thinker]

Thank you again, Steven, for starting this thread on Credo.

I thought I'd collected as much as I could have about this man, but everyone here has provided a wealth of extra material which will take me much longer to assimilate than I imagined.

Credo's biography in Bibliotecapleyades.net, to which Steven linked in the first post in this thread, is a convenient way of compressing the first 9 parts from Credo's site into a single file. However, it omits part 10, which may have appeared since the Bibliotecapleyades entry. Here it is:

Biography 10: Animal Prophesies (http://credomutwa.com/about/biography-10/)

Like you all, I am greatly saddened by the theft of Credo's necklace, but fortunately in this age of the camera we have been able to preserve its appearance. This is the best picture of it I have been able to find. It is a composite image, 1514 x 1360 pixels. Here it is at 25% of its full size:


http://i52.tinypic.com/bi2u8o.png

The file size (900 Kb) is too large for me to add this as an attachment to this post but you can download the image here (http://ifile.it/237g4vq).

If this link goes down, PM me and I will re-upload it.

I too will be glad to learn when the additional material that Bill mentioned will become available.

[Celine]

does anyone have a date on this??

(more material)

[ThePythonicCow]

The file size (900 Kb) is too large for me to add this as an attachment to this post but you can download the image here (http://ifile.it/237g4vq).

If this link goes down, PM me and I will re-upload it.

Thanks for providing this image, str8thinker.

I just uploaded the full size image (900 KB) to my server (thepythoniccow.us) as well. The image file is at http://thepythoniccow.us/Credo_Mutwa_Necklace_of_the_Mysteries_lg.jpg

[str8thinker]

Thanks Paul for helping to preserve that image!

The Reptilian Agenda can still be viewed and/or downloaded (using appropriate software or plugins) here:
David Icke & Credo Mutwa -- The Reptilian Agenda (Part One) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apWOUNOx64)

David Icke & Credo Mutwa -- The Reptilian Agenda (Part Two) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va4V1SA2eyk)

Here are some more gems from Credo:
The African Labyrinth (http://www.eso-garden.com/index.php?/weblog/C25/)


According to Credo Mutwa, African labyrinths have existed for eons in Africa and are an integral part of every tribe in some shape or form. Apart from divination, the labyrinth is also used as an initiation tool into Umlando, the Great Knowledge.

http://www.eso-garden.com/images/uploads_bilder/african_labyrinth_2.jpg

Sunderlandia to cure AIDS (http://articles.blogstream.com/v1/p14.html)

Credo: It is a plant, which is almost on the point of extinction, a plant
called 'Suderlandia Fructosate'. This plant works miracles on people
who have the terrible disease called Aids. And it is so miraculous
that the miracles are seen within a week or a fortnight. A person,
who was lying down on the point of death, when given this plant,
rises and has much energy and is free of depression and has a good
appetite. And I feel that as a nation as a matter of world emergency
because the big scientists have not produced a viable safe treatment
for aids. I say that this plant should be planted by all caring
governments, by all caring organizations and that it should be given
to human beings free of charge."

Steve: "Absolutely. You know what I think is important though Credo,
that people understand what to do with the plant."

Credo: "They don't do nothing sir, you are going to laugh about
this. You plant the plant okay, but then you take the little leaves
from it and you put them in a tea cup and you pour much boiling
water on it. And then you let the cup stand there, like tea you
know, and you just drink, the patient just drinks."

Steve: "The leaves and the red flower?"

Credo: "Yah."

Steve: "Mix them together? Do you need to dry them first?"

Credo: "No you can take them straight from the garden, because if
you dry them too much they somehow loose some of their good spirit.
Now this is all you do. Now, there are good doctors I'm working with
who are making pills out of this medicine. But you know sir, I feel
we are faced with a national emergency, a world emergency.

http://articles.blogstream.com/v1/p14.html
See also
http://www.sahealthinfo.org/traditionalmeds/firststudy.htm

[ktlight]

Real history is being discussed. Credo reveals a lot. Some of it was missing on youtube, so I went to the uploader's site.


http://www.youtube.com/user/SparklesofUnity#grid/user/9CDDADA709AB4FF3

[tkh123186]

I wish Credo would do some new interviews, his insight is simply amazing.

[ktlight]

I wish Credo would do some new interviews, his insight is simply amazing.

Absolutely. I'm hoping that this will incite it. There is so much more that he would deliver. Just imagine, 90 years packed into a few hours of footage. There has got to be more

[ktlight]

Credo Mutwa, the great Zulu historian, author, philosopher and shaman, is building a small hospital behind his home for local AIDS victims.

Please help him and his wife Virginia complete this wonderful project. In this short video David Icke, his closest friend, makes an appeal for those in the western world to help Credo complete this project before he finally leaves us.

Appeal details:

A/c name: Credo Mutwa Tshedisa Sechaba
A/c number: 6224 7619945 (one space)
Bank: First National Bank
Branch: Kuruman
Branch code: 230302 (no spaces)
Address: 20 Beare Street, Kuruman 8460, South Africa
Swiftcode: FIRNZAJJ 0277

If you are kind enough to make a donation, please email LINDA SMITH at colinda.smith@telkomsa.net so everything can be double-checked and receipt confirmed at the South African end. She is in a position to assist with any bank transfer difficulties.

* THANK YOU *


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FLF5YdJWc

[ktlight]

The great Credo Mutwa, the Zulu shaman now almost 90 years of age, has had the latest in a series of strokes. I spoke with him this morning for some time and he was making jokes and laughing as usual, but he is very ill and has lost feeling in his left side. Even in these circumstances he was thinking of others and asked me to tell people that forgiveness and love are the only answer to the problems of South Africa and the wider world.

Please send him your love.

Thank-you

David

[Wiremu2011]

Receive my LOVE and HEALING energies Credo Mutwa.

[astrid]

Thanks for letting us know ktlight.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2sUkuYuXlQ

He will be in my prayers tonight.

Blessings,

Astrid.

[tkh123186]

Credo you are a great human being, please receive our love energies and be happy if you are to close your eyes in death. Although you will be missed dearly, you deserve your rest; namaste my brother!

[Tahi]

You have influenced me and been a part of my awakening, I thank you from my heart.

Kia Kaha

[Ria]

thank you for letting me know
Please every one and any one send all the love, light and healing you can.
He is a light for so many and for those yet to find him
I wish for his torch to be stronger than ever.
I ask for all the great beings of light to go to his aide
to restore him bringing all the love and healing possible
Bless you Credo Mutwa
Ria

[Lost Soul]

In Credo Mutwa is a great teacher and unfortunately, one who cannot be easily replaced.

[butcherman]

Blesings to you o father of the truth

[seehas]

thank you credo for your speakings with david icke, this realy helped many people in the western world to see things from a different perspective ... all good to you credo

[Unicorn]

Dear Brother Credo Mutwa, there are many of us with you at this time of tribulation. All my love and gratitude to you, one of the bravest men in this world. You are a model for all of us. My prayers to this loving, courageous brother. Blessings

[Steven]

Hoping his words, tales, wisdom and knowledge will be carried out by the next generation, somehow. I will do my little part and share his message.

Namaste, Steven

[BrianEn]

God speed to you Credo.

[nomadguy]

for Credo -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdM-36eRGQ&feature=player_embedded

[markoid]

Such an admirable, honourable and gentle soul, with an innocence still in tact after such a long life full of trials and tribulations that would floor any but the most courageous.
My deepest heartfelt wishes for a gentle passage through this current phase of his life.
All love to you Credo.

[ktlight]

David Icke says "My African Dream": This Is For You Credo, My Beautiful Friend - The Man Who Has Refused To Run, No Matter What

Sometimes alone in the evening, I look outside my window,
At the shadow in the night.
I hear the voice of distant crying, the darkness multiplying,
The weary hearts denied.

All I feel is my heartbeat,
Beating like a drum,
Beating with confusion.
All I hear are the voices,
Telling me to go,
But I will never run.

Cos' in my African Dream
There's a new tomorrow
My African Dream
There's a dream that we can follow

The night begins to fall, I listen for your call,
I listen for your heartbeat.
Although my dream is just a dream, another false illusion,
A shadow in the night.

All I want is for our heartbeats,
The beat just as one,
To silence that confusion.
And the pain and the illusion,
Will disappear again,
So we would never run

Cos' in our African Dream
There's a new tomorrow
Our African Dream
There's a dream that we can follow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5__YQUJLc

performed by André Rieu with Johann Strauss orchestra and Kimi Skota, Mirusia Louwerse, Kalki Schrijvers and The Platin Tenors (Gary Bennett, Thomas Greuel, Béla Mavrák) in South-Africa

[ktlight]

Friday, 22 July 2011 09:52
Happy Birthday Credo Mutwa - 90 years old and stricken by the effects of a stroke, but still working to help his people

With so many non-workaholic parasites taking, taking, taking from others in this parasitical world, here is a man who has given and given for nine decades.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zAjzO7vUAc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zAjzO7vUAc&feature=player_embedded

[Mark]

Kudos and a hearty thank you for sharing these sentiments! I also appreciate this man for what he has done, for the vision he has shared, and for being a representative of Africa to the world when, for so long, the wisdom of that continent has been ignored and shunted to the side. Happy birthday!!

[ktlight]

"David Icke talks with the Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa.

In this fantastic interview, Credo Mutwa reveals the story of the "Reptilian Takeover" of Planet Earth and how a shape-shifting Reptilian race (the "Chitauri" to Africans, Annunaki in Western culture) has controlled humanity for thousands of years and how their bloodlines are in the positions of Royal, Political & Economic power today."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-GK62xrfGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-GK62xrfGs&feature=player_embedded

[ktlight]

From David Icke:

"I met a fantastic healer - and I mean fantastic - called Andreas and his friend and associate, Mike, in Germany when I spoke there in April and I immediately thought of my great friend and soul mate, Credo Mutwa, who had lost the use of his left hand and the whole left side of his body after a stroke.

I arranged for Andreas and Mike to visit Credo for a week and for Andreas to perform his magical (the real laws of physics) healing on the great man.

You are about to see Credo regain the use of his left hand for the first time since his stroke several months ago. If you can watch this without crying I will be surprised - I can't for sure."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66nUYyIrHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66nUYyIrHc&feature=player_embedded

"After a few days of treatment this stricken man who could hardly walk is back to the Credo Mutwa that I have long known as if no stroke had ever happened. It is extraordinary on one level, but I knew this would happen after seeing Andreas at work in Germany. I told Credo as he was in despair from the effects of the stroke - 'I have someone coming to see you, mate, and he will fix you, I know he will.'

As you watch this, remember that days earlier Credo had no use of the left side of his body because of the stroke and could hardly move. He said to me on the phone before this: 'Mr David, I am now a useless wreck'.

Not anymore, mate. Not anymore.

How absolutely wonderful.

This is Credo walking again with Mike."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ya9_J9FLfo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ya9_J9FLfo&feature=player_embedded

This is Credo painting again with his left hand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7yx9CrqKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7yx9CrqKc&feature=player_embedded

And this is Credo back to the man I know ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaG_9cJM_Fc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaG_9cJM_Fc&feature=player_embedded

[RMorgan]

This is truly amazing!!Thanks!

[Lisab]

Fantastic. So happy for credo and David thanks x

[ghostrider]

this is the true potential of humanity, helping where there is a need. I am in awe - credo is great man and a wonderful speaker of lost/secret knowledge. a treasure not easily replaced. It was David Icke and Credo who got me in the reptilian realm. they are like the godfather of reptilian info for me. Good to see Credo back being Credo.... hooooowahhhhhh !!

[etheric underground]

See how wonderful it feels to give unconditionally KT.... Good outcome my friend.
Now to all of those wanting to become more than you are......think to
your self , am I here for service to self or am I here for service to others???
In questioning your purpose at this time this is one question that gave my
personal journey creedence...

[WhiteFeather]

Simply Blissfull, Thanks for this great Post. Awesome!

[ViralSpiral]

Incredible!!

Sometimes silent thanks isn't much use to anyone, so:

THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL THREAD, AND DEEP GRATITUDE TO YOU - DAVID ICKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MargueriteBee]

How wonderful!

[toothpick]

Love this great man.
It soothes my soul to hear this Zulu leader speak.
Especially if Credo is telling one of his ancient human history stories.
This very wise man carrys a thousand years of verbal human history carved into an anceint necklace.
David you are a beautiful soul for remembering your old friend and for reachng out to help him.
That is what we should all be doing, helping people who need it.
You know, random acts of kindness times a million or two.

toothpick

[ktlight]

Further, from DI:

"A Word About The Credo Healing

Thursday, 04 August 2011 10:42
It was fantastic to see the improvement in the health of Credo Mutwa in the posting yesterday, but there is no suggestion here that this will work for everyone or how long these things last. It is about activating the power of the mind to dictate to the body and everyone is different.

It clearly works, but it is not a miracle. It is the power of the mind to heal the body - and so everyone will respond differently and some not at all. The effects may be permanent or temporary - nothing is guaranteed.

But it has changed Credo's daily life, that's for sure."

[Star]

Thank you for this wonderful post. I want to say that in the early 1800's that Phineas Parkhurst Quimby also discovered the path to healing. He healed Mary Baker Eddy, who founded Christian Science & Healing, and it his his work and manuscripts she borrowed and used to create her own "religion." He proclaimed after much personal research and experimentation that illness was due to religion and the medical profession. He was a clockmaker in Belfast, Maine. All his life was devoted to healing. His work, research and healings are mostly documented in a book called, The Quimby Manuscripts. He was overshadowed by his student, Mary Baker, at the time who went on after plagerizing his work and created a church and threw him under the bus as a mesmerist. She lectured for him for a few years proclaiming the discovery he had made as she was an invalid for most of her life until the age of 46, when she was brought to him on a stretcher, as she was unable to walk.

He knew it was the mind and the beliefs we were taught that created "disease" and his method was his great insight into the real issue a person carried within when he saw them and spent 2 hrs. or more talking them out of the belief they carried. He said that when the belief was no longer, the disease had to disappear. He healed thousands day after day. He had a fee but if you had not money that was fine, he was here to serve and to heal. Those who are interested in all his writings can go to his website, www.ppquimby.com (http://www.ppquimby.com) and see all his material and writings. He was the true Father of New Age because from Christian Science Church sprang Unity, Science of Mind, The Infinite Way, Religious Science and others. He was the advanced soul who made these discoveries and spent every day in his office healing from morning to night. Every disease was healed just by talking people out of a belief they held about illness either from religion/Bible or the medical world.

Thank you this healing which was accomplished by healing the mind..

Love & Light,
Star

[Billy]

This thread just made my day, great news for us all that Credo is up and about again. bless him and David and of course the Healer

[ulli]

I want to thank Star for her contribution above about Phineas Parkhust Quimby, and share with us the website ppquimby.com.

I was always very interested in faith healing, seeing it as the most central message of Christianity, and even went to Christian Science services for a while, long time ago, never knowing that Mary Baker Eddy got her initial healing from Quimby.
So he started in 1844, which was a significant year as far as prophecies about the return of Christ was concerned, even hotter than now.
Much historical evidence in the papers of that year.
Transmitting qi or chi energy with our hands is one of the most effective ways of sharing, and giving of ourselves.
And the mind that knows this is stronger than the mind that bought into fears of health needing to deteriorate, thus manifesting illnes and dis-ease.

Another great contributer to this topic is Louise Hays, who teaches about cetain thought patterns creating specific illnesses, and how to counter them with positive affirmations.

Nice thread, and so glad the world has David Icke, and happy that Credo is doing well.

[ulli]

Hope this is not considered off-topic here. A brief article by P.P. Quimby about how the mind affects the processes that lead to illness.

Mind is Spiritual Matter

Mind is spiritual matter. Thought is also matter, but not the same matter, any more than the earth is the same matter as the seed which is put into it. Thought like the seed germinates and comes forth, like the tree, in the form of an idea. It then waits like the fruit to be eaten. Curiosity is excited and wants to be gratified; it tastes and then enquires; the answer comes and the spirit is affected in proportion to the answer. Illustration: a thought is sown in the mind while asleep or ignorant; it grows and comes forth. The curiosity tastes; it produces a strange sensation in the throat. The spirit enquires, the answer comes, Bronchitis. The spirit is disturbed and tries to rid itself of its enemy. This disturbance is the effect called disease. Now if no name had been given or fears excited, the idea or tree would have died of itself.

October 1859

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHrgYkzrFM&feature=player_embedded

[kersley]

I enjoyed that very much..thanks for posting..

[Ruby L.]

Yes, that was excellent! I really enjoyed it, too.

Think this groove is going to be looping through my head all day.
Thanks... kinda. :)

Rep-til-liaan, rep-til-liaan--

Watch what gwaon when I open my chakra..
They try to run but dem get captcha..

Fly through space, to a next realm,
But this all seen as like it's all on film.

All dem a causes weird contention,
I'ma send dem back to dem dimension.

Digress, dem beings are soul-less,
That's why dem bring stress to the blessed.

Rep-til-liaan, rep-til-liaaaan...

[RedeZra]

why don't you call them demons Mr Icke ?


then I would pat your back ; )

[Jake]

I am off to work. I had to post this cool dream that I had. My lucid adventures are normally OBEs... This was a very lucid dream. I woke up paralyzed in the middle of the night. I did not struggle. There were no vibrations. I did NOT attempt an exit. (Although I was thinking clearly about my next OBE goal,,, (I'm dialing you in, Bollinger))

Here is the dream:

I found myself in an African Village. I made my way into the small home of Credo Mutwa. I recognized him right away. He was sitting on his small bed and he looked at me and asked. "Did you see that I am recovered?" I said, "Yes, I had seen the video, and I wanted to extend my love and gratitude for that." He said " Yes, yes, mister Jacob, sir. It is Amazing." I dropped to my knees, grabbing his hands. I felt a great wave of love for this man. I was holding his hands and crying. His heart knows no bounds. I was told (voice in my head) that it was time to go. Credo said to me "You had better listen to that voice." He smiled, and I woke up directly after that. I remembered the whole thing without having to struggle to remember.

What an amazing dream. I will remember it forever.

Gotta go, Jake.

[Ria]

I would say this was happening in real terms, in a higher frequency.
bess you both.

[Ruby L.]

I tend to not read dream posts, but happened to have seen this thread and am so glad I dropped by!
Thank you for such a beautiful description of a profound dream, Jake.

Agreed with Ria: it feels like it was a real-time moment shared between you and Mr. Mutwa, just on a higher frequency and level. How gorgeous is that!

I truly enjoyed your post, and am so happy for you and your experience.
And I'm totally delighted I didn't miss out on reading about it, too!

Your time with Mr. Mutwa emanated with mutual love, respect and blessings.
It could be felt it in your words all the way here!

Thanks for sharing such an uplifting "dream". :hug:

[kathymarie]

Thank you for posting this...I had a similar dream once that still resonates with me...I chill just remembering it....not about Credo although I was just thinking about him this morning and wondering how he was. I dreamed I was at my pediatrician's office. His office in the dream was as in real life...in a remodeled former house. Downstairs was the reception area and examing rooms and another waiting room upstairs. I remember climbing the stairs slowly and deliberately. When I opened the door into the waiting crowded waiting room the first person I saw was the Dalai Lama. He looked at me and smiled and mouthed my name. The bliss I felt was exquisite. I immediately awakened. As I am not a Buddhist I have often wondered about this dream and about the particulars of it.

[Lord Sidious]

I still say you are a gem, jake jake binks.

http://www.ceykor.com/product-images/10002.jpg
Avalon is better with you here.

[ktlight]

DI and CM spent 10 days together quite recently. They first met in 1997. Africa is the home of a stream of ancient knowledge that the world should be listening to.

Sit back with your refreshments and enjoy this important video.

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[toothpick]

Love and good health to Credo Matwa the very wise and great Zulu Shamon.

toothpick

[ktlight]

"Uploaded by hardware35 on Jan 24, 2011
Credo Mutwa prediction on the start of World War 3, from "A Voice in the Wilderness" TV special originally aired on South Africa TV"

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[Calz]

Cheery little vid ...

[ktlight]

"We all have the divine masculine ( I/Mind) and the Divine Feminine ( AM/Heart) in us all. To get thru the struggles that lie before us...we must all act like grandmothers. We are all one. Love one another, Unconditionally."

I should explain that, in Africa, traditionally, the older folk are looked after. They usually take over the nurturing of children. They are not put away into homes for the aged, nor forgotten about.

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[Lord Sidious]

Bringing balance between the internal masculine and feminine will bring huge change.

[Mark]

Bringing Credo Mutwah to the worlds attention is David Icke`s biggest contribution to these times, IMHO. There is nothing new under the sun. Hearing the wisdom of the Continent as expressed through his amazing experiences and story-telling ability is mandatory for the true manifestation of the Rainbow Tribe (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27571-The-Gathering-of-the-Rainbow-Tribe-New-Age-delusions-and-rude-Awakenings). All families of humanity must contribute their part for healing to occur ...

[Maia Gabrial]

I had a dream last night where I kept reading these words. They kept rearranging until I could read a warning similar to what Mutwa Creedo said. The part I remember was "....new ills.... deadly for the world...."

[Anno]

I see he got his necklace back again then. After all the fuss made over its alleged theft I'm suprised there wasn't coverage on its recovery.

[Calz]

I see he got his necklace back again then. After all the fuss made over its alleged theft I'm suprised there wasn't coverage on its recovery.

Date is given on when the vid was uploaded ... but it could have been recorded before the necklace was stolen.

[Anno]

I see he got his necklace back again then. After all the fuss made over its alleged theft I'm suprised there wasn't coverage on its recovery.

Date is given on when the vid was uploaded ... but it could have been recorded before the necklace was stolen.

August 2010 it was meant to have been stolen, so the video would have to be at least a year old before it was uploaded. The earliest mention of the video I can find is January 2011 although through my searching I'm noticing that this video is being posted all over the internet today (well, yesterday now, I'm in Wednesday). It's even on a French Student webpage.

I can't find out the original air date of the documentary. Everyone just says it was originally a tv special for South Africa Tv.

[Calz]

I check the Icke site once or twice a week and would think we would have heard if it had been recovered???

[ktlight]

"Uploaded by hardware35 on Jan 24, 2011
Credo Mutwa prediction on the start of World War 3, from "A Voice in the Wilderness" TV special originally aired on South Africa TV"

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Did anyone miss the message???

[Anno]

I check the Icke site once or twice a week and would think we would have heard if it had been recovered???

You'd think so wouldn't you. I neeeeeed closure. Although Icke got all the attention I do remember Bill mentioning that he'd met Credo shortly after the theft, so perhaps he knows something?

[Siegfried The 7]

I love Credo! I wish someone from Avalon or Camelot would interview him, if possible.

I think this is somewhat old because newer vids suggest that Credo has lost weight and has become older.

I find his msg. in this video interesting just being that there is trouble in that section of the world. To what extent we do not know as of yet.

[grapevine]

I listened to the message and the one following on You Tube and it was shocking. I wondered who the flame haired woman was who will be the leader of The Federation of America? Credo himself looks very young (slimmer with lots of dark hair) in these videos and certainly not ill, like he was earlier this year. Maybe it was done a few years ago but the message is still very relevant.

[shamanseeker]

Hi! I can't watch videos in my little village; the connection is really bad but from what I can see on it, Credo was much younger when it was recorded as W1ndmill has noted. He is grey-haired now, almost white and much frailer.
Let's hope that with the shift of the Earth and change in people's consciousness that these things either won't happen or will be much less horrific.

[Maia Gabrial]

I see he got his necklace back again then. After all the fuss made over its alleged theft I'm suprised there wasn't coverage on its recovery.

It's not the same necklace. The other one had figures and such....
I saw pictures of it and it didn't look like this one at all....

[Bill Ryan]

is certainly an old


I see he got his necklace back again then. After all the fuss made over its alleged theft I'm suprised there wasn't coverage on its recovery.

Date is given on when the vid was uploaded ... but it could have been recorded before the necklace was stolen.

August 2010 it was meant to have been stolen, so the video would have to be at least a year old before it was uploaded. The earliest mention of the video I can find is January 2011 although through my searching I'm noticing that this video is being posted all over the internet today (well, yesterday now, I'm in Wednesday). It's even on a French Student webpage.

I can't find out the original air date of the documentary. Everyone just says it was originally a tv special for South Africa Tv.

Hi, All:

This is certainly an old video recording of Credo. I spent time with him personally this time last year, and this YouTube clip showed him looking quite a few years younger. As best I know, the necklace was never returned or retrieved.

All best wishes, Bill

[Heyoka_11]

G'day All,

I'm sure that most of you would remember the healing which Credo Mutwa received back in August, after suffering the latest in a series of strokes which had left him paralysed down his left side. Most would also have seen the video of this healing, which I have included at the bottom of this post for the benefit of the few who may have missed it. But how many know who the healer is in that video, or why I would bother to find him?

I was prompted to track him down after learning that one of our members, D-DAY (Dan), had Stargardt's Syndrome, and was asking for assistance in his "Time To Reach Out and Ask For Help" thread. I figured that if this fellow can help Credo to recover from a stroke, perhaps he could also assist Dan in saving his sight. I managed to find him through the Conscious Media Network, and David Icke's site, as it was David who introduced Credo to his healer in the first place.

His name is Andreas Breitsch, and he lives about 60 km's South of Frankfurt Germany. His website address follows:

http://www.blue-healing.de/Home.html

This site is in German, as unfortunately his English site has vanished. http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/chinrub.gif I have used Google Translate to give you some idea as to Andreas' thoughts and method.

What follows is a Google translation (with apologies) taken from his site.

The energy field of man is in constant change, depending on the state of his body. When a man opens for a change in this field, I can do it from the outside and completely free of contact, just bein with my concentration influence,!

The traditional medicine is today, unfortunately, largely focused on the suppression of symptoms. The doctors do not learn about holistic health, but only sectional symptom of disease management: This disease, because "help" of this or that drug.

That all processes in the human body with minimal electrical currents are controlled by the associated electromagnetic fields, seems in fact known. Their influence through other energy fields as a treatment but is not used as much as, let alone acknowledged!

Any tampering with the body, be it a bruise, a wound, or even surgery, all leaves traces in the energy system. The harmonious flow of vital energy flow is disturbed and there are disease-causing congestion!

The doctor will look z.Bsp. after surgery or an injury to the tissue healing. So what you can grip with your hands. The wound heals, but there's still something that can not see. It is the energy pattern, which is a violation, they will disturb even the most sensitive to old-time! And such a failure (blockage) in one place naturally has an effect on the entire energy system "body". This may manifest itself in a completely different location: In my practice, I experience it very often that such a correction of the position of the individual skull bones in the disappearance of many physical ailments lead!

My kind of treatment is done without any mechanical action on any part of the body. Neither with any devices, even with the power of my body. I use the best frequency generator that has ever created by nature: the human brain!
My hands are the sensors detect which blockages in energy flow of the client. Once that is done, I turn the flow of energy around easily.

Mean to "heal the body," she pointed concentration can be easily bundled out of my hands in the field of human flow that will receive them. And these causes there is a direct change in the old sickening pattern. These modified energy flows can take effect on the body and cause it to react according to the new, transmitted by me "image": The body can heal!

That all sounds simple and easy it is. The genius of nature lies in its simplicity!
Only man in his separateness from her, and so unnecessarily by itself, makes everything complicated. The co-decision in a healing factor is the acceptance of the client. A curative treatment is a change! In other words: The longer one is ill, the more the disease into the daily living consciousness is integrated. You know, after all, that one is ill. The danger, therefore, to make this state an integral part of its identity, life is set to the disease!

A "cure" is therefore always also a bit under his circumstances, give very fond of personality to want to! Who thus has no or little difficulties, which is on the right path of true change, and will benefit greatly from treatment of a healer. The disease may disappear and must return no more, because she is no longer needed in the life of the person healed!

In a detailed discussion I clarify my clients about the background and events that eventually lead to disease. The next step is obviously the real deal about the energy field. During this process, it happens very often that long-forgotten injuries-including and especially emotional art come to the fore. These can then be processed and released finally in love. Because the client due to the new understanding of his self can recognize what they were useful!

Finally, I give them also "tools" at hand, which she put in the position this healthy state in the future will be able to maintain themselves.

Be safely treated energetically, in principle, can do everything, there are no exceptions. For what in a human body "sick" has become-it's a must-energetic process by transforming the energy pattern again "healthy" can be!

The nice thing about this type of energetic healing treatment: it can not be damaged! Unlike surgery, or taking medication, there is absolutely NO risk to the client.

"So how does all this help D-DAY?", I hear you scream http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/sAng_scream.gif

Well, the plan is that Dan will be visiting Andreas some time in the new year. I have already been in contact with him, and he is happy to assist Dan with his healing.

Let's hope that Dan can have as successful an outcome as Credo Mutwa did.

In the meantime, those of you that know Dan will be pleased to learn that he has managed to secure full-time employment, and that after a seven week stint in his in-laws caravan (trailer), he is now moving his family into their own unit.

Well done D-DAY!



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[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I hope the healer can help Dan.

Thanks for this heyoka :)

PVM

[Ria]

I was looking for this same healer for a friend of mine with an eye complaint [going blind] thank you so much for that.
If there are any up dates I would be most grateful for the information. Much love to Dan and yourself.

[mosquito]

Tony, I can only say WOW !!

You really have gone the extra mile in helping Dan, I'm speechless.

[Heyoka_11]

If there are any up dates I would be most grateful for the information

G'day Ria,

Great to hear that the thread has served an unexpected purpose, in that it has helped you locate Andreas. I will certainly keep you up to date with any information that I think may be of relevance to you. In the meantime, why not contact him yourself? His email is andreas@blue-healing.de You may like to use Google to translate into German as I did (I don't actually know if he speaks English), but I can assure you that he responds in very quick time.

Best Wishes,

Tony.



Tony, I can only say WOW !! You really have gone the extra mile in helping Dan, I'm speechless.

Hi Phil,

And thanks for your kind words mate; much appreciated! Since I was a kid I've known that getting our heads off our own needs, and helping others is a far easier way to live life, so it's kind of a win win situation. I'm not saying I'm entirely there, far from it, but if there's going to be any collective future for us all, it's in that way of thinking.

Cheers! :)

[sandy]

Cudo's to you Tony, D Day, and Andreas and much continued success for you all with future dreams and endeavours :)

[Lord Sidious]

Best to Dan, even though he is a bananabendernugget.
Let's all concentrate on his sight being healed.
Make it so.















































































































So, heyokanugget, that avatar isn't accurate, is it?
Dark horse you are, indeed.
Not too bad for a nugget at all.

[Heyoka_11]

Best to Dan, even though he is a bananabendernugget.
Let's all concentrate on his sight being healed.
Make it so.
So, heyokanugget, that avatar isn't accurate, is it?
Dark horse you are, indeed.
Not too bad for a nugget at all.

You and your bloody lengthy pauses, keeping everyone is suspense!

A sandgropingnuggget has got to be better than your average bananabendernugget..........whadja reckon Dan?

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Oh, and thank you Rob! You're not too bad for a fellow sandgropingnugget yourself! :pound:

[D-Day]

Best to Dan, even though he is a bananabendernugget.
Let's all concentrate on his sight being healed.
Make it so.
So, heyokanugget, that avatar isn't accurate, is it?
Dark horse you are, indeed.
Not too bad for a nugget at all.

You and your bloody lengthy pauses, keeping everyone is suspense!

A sandgropingnuggget has got to be better than your average bananabendernugget..........whadja reckon Dan?

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Oh, and thank you Rob! You're not too bad for a fellow sandgropingnugget yourself! :pound:

Actually Tony, I'm more interested in how our non-Australian counterparts might have interpreted Rob's 'bananabendermugget' comment... if you catch my drift??

Don't get the wrong idea folks!

He was referring to the fact that I live in Queensland, where they grow lots of bananas... promise!

At least, I hope that's what he meant....... lol

Ah, gotta love Aussie colloquealisms! ;)

[Heyoka_11]

Actually Tony, I'm more interested in how our non-Australian counterparts might have interpreted Rob's 'bananabendernugget' comment... if you catch my drift??

As long as your drift is all I catch mate! http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/bellylaugh.gif

The thought had occured to me as well Dan, but hey, if people want to let their minds stray into the gutter, that's alright with me!

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[ViralSpiral]

So, heyokanugget, that avatar isn't accurate, is it?



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar7415_3.gif

Correct! The horse is facing the wrong way!

;)

Tony, thanks for sharing the info and for your generous spirit

Good luck Dan!

[Seikou-Kishi]

Ha I love Credo Mutwa. It's good to see him getting the help he needs and undoubtedly deserves. It's also good to see the work you have done for D-Day, having known of his difficulties.

It is good to have you around, Heyoka.

[Carmen]

Bless you, Tony,you are a kind and generous soul and I trust all goes very well for you with this meeting Dan. All the best.

Love and Hugs

Carmen

[meeradas]

OP, thanks for the hint.
This guy is just around the corner from where i'm right now.
Let's see if we cross paths.
't'd be sth really nice, for a change.

[Heyoka_11]

Let's see if we cross paths.

G'day meeradas,

Unbelievable! Let's hope that fate (Fates) steps in on our side!

Thanks for letting us know.

[D-Day]

Great to see so many here acknowledging the wonderful work you do behind the scenes at PA, Tony.

Not that you do what you do for the sake of being acknowledged, but it sure is nice, and you deserve every bit of it my friend!

I also know that I'm not the only one here who has benefited immensely from your kind heart, generosity and wisdom.

So kudos to you mate, you're a one-in-a-million guy for sure! :)

Also.............. BUMP!!!

[PurpleLama]

:spider:

somebody asked for arachne?


:first: here ya go, tony, you are one stand up guy, in every sense of the term.

[Heyoka_11]

Also.............. BUMP!!!

:behindsofa:

Thanks Dan, honest, thanks mate.

This thread was supposed to be about Andreas, Credo and YOU!........not me, but I guess it just morphed for a little while. We've still got plenty of work to do though, don't we?


Thank you once again, to everyone who has sent their best wishes.

[Heyoka_11]

:first: here ya go, tony

Hey PL,

Thanks to you too dude; it's been a while since I've seen one of those :first:, and it sure feels good.

You certainly know how to get a guy out from behind the sofa (king) Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Here's one just for you...........a kind a five minute endurance test, whoop whoop!



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[WhiteFeather]

Your a kind spirit in your service to others Heyoka, I thank you,,,we thank you! Awesome!!!!!!!

[PurpleLama]

That's too funny, dude. I heard that same trumpet call at the start of the video issue at 6 am thim morning from the military base nearby. It's a rare thin, to hear it this far away, only when conditions are just right. Keep on rockin, buddy!

[Mark]

Thank you for this thread and for your service-to-others. Best to you, D-Day.

[Carmody]

Thank you for this thread and for your service-to-others. Best to you, D-Day.


I used to know a guy who milked cows.

That would be....wait for it....Service to udders.

[Heyoka_11]

I used to know a guy who milked cows. That would be....wait for it....Service to udders.

Boom boom!

http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/bellylaugh.gif

You're certainly milking that line for all it's worth!

Thanks Carmody....... I appreciate your dropping in. http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/clap.gif

[Calz]

I used to know a guy who milked cows. That would be....wait for it....Service to udders.

Boom boom!

http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/bellylaugh.gif

You're certainly milking that line for all it's worth!

Thanks Carmody....... I appreciate your dropping in. http://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/clap.gif


This is moooooooooooooving towards being udderly rediculous.

... but since laughter is very healing I suspect we are not as off-topic as it would seem.


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[Heyoka_11]

This is moooooooooooooving towards being udderly rediculous. ... but since laughter is very healing I suspect we are not as off-topic as it would seem.

Dang it Cal................onya bike sunshine!

11613

There's no whey I can find the curds, I mean words, to top that line! It's enough to make me scream!!

11614

Nyuk nyuk!
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[1derer]

What a selfless thing to do Heyoka,

Thank you.

[wynderer]

“Africa was once GREAT – let us make her GREAT again.” Sanusi Credo Mutwa.

A Time of Great Change

A New Way Of Abundance Ahead – NOW!

Every socio-political system we have ever had as the human race has failed us dramatically.

South Africa, like the rest of the world, is now sitting on the verge of complete and devastating financial meltdown with catastrophic results for its people.

If we do not begin to explore a brand new way of life ahead for our country and our people we will surely destroy ourselves.

The South African natural resourses have been plundered by greedy international corporations, supported by reckless and ignorant politicians, with no remorse or any real accountability to its people whom they serve.

Our economy has been hijacked by international bankers who have been granted complete freedom to financially cripple every

South African, as our government and courts do nothing to protect the people against their unlawful activity.

There seems to be no way out of this misery.

Everybody knows in their hearts that this situation cannot continue and we need to find real and lasting solutions

Rather than the constant empty promises of a small number of so-called leaders, who show absolutely no capacity, nor intention to come to the assistance of its people.

We are in a time of great change and it is up to us to make the changes that we, the people, want for ourselves. They say that history has taught us nothing.

Well - this is the time when we finally have to learn from history and choose a completely new course that will liberate the people from the never-ending economic and financial slavery we are all trapped in.

The UBUNTU Party presents a basic foundation of a new social structure, to take us into a new era of real freedom from financial tyranny, real prosperity in all areas of society and real control of our own destiny as the people of South Africa.

A total decentralisation of power and control, allowing communities to manage their own needs and destiny – moving away from a monetary system,

Towards a simple philosophy of UBUNTU and abundance on all levels.

This will require a complete change of thinking and a paradigm shift away from what we all believe to be “normal and unchangeable”.

The UBUNTU PARTY is the result of seven years of research and planning by numerous participants, who can no longer tolerate the absolute abuse of the good, honest people of South Africa and the raping of our land by a group of political corporate elite who have unlawfully assumed ownership of it all.

We are a liberation movement disguised as a political party. Now that we have our political freedom, we need to regain out economic freedom.

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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=250270

[ghostrider]

Credo Mutwa is a great man. I could listen to his history lessons 24-7 .

[smithersjones]

It is such a shame that a continent so rich in mineral deposits, see's poverty on such a high scale!
This continent, like others has been systematically raped by big corporations and they [the corporations] have put nothing back into the countries!
NO country should BE ruled by another.....End Of.

It makes me so angry to see this sort of thing, it really does!

HOPI Elders Speak - New Age Will Rise From South Africa
The Hopi Elders Statement:
"You have been telling people
that this is the eleventh hour.
Now you must go back and tell people
that this is the hour!

And there are things to be considered:
Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know your Garden.

It is time to speak your truth.
Create your community.
Be good to yourself.
And not look outside of yourself
for a leader.
This could be a good time!

There is a river flowing very fast.
It is so great and fast
that there are those who will be afraid.
They will hold on to the shore.
They will feel that they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.

Know that the river has its destination.
The elders say that
we must let go of the shore,
push off into the middle of the river,
keep our eyes open,
and our heads above the water.
See who is in there with you
and celebrate.

At this time we are to take nothing personally, least of all, ourselves.
For the moment that we do,
our spiritual growth comes to a halt.

The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves!
Banish the word struggle
from your attitude and your vocabulary.

All that we do now must be done
in a sacred manner and in celebration.

We are the ones that we have been waiting for."

Im sure that Africa will be great once again!!

[wynderer]

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[naste.de.lumina]

Credo Mutwa wrote this back in 2008, and published it in 2009. Pretty spot-on predictive poetry.


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An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life
wearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon's gown.
Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life
holding out hope as bright as it is false.
Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood
of ancient Ireland and dark Africa's plains.
You are Obama, nick-named the standing king
You are Barack, oh, son born to deceive
The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you,
See a black saviour where nought but a Judas strides.
An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war
Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope
Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are.
May those who hope in you behold you as you be
A prince deceitful to bring down Africa's shrines
A siren who leads Africa's ships onto rocks of obliteration.
Your rule my lord will not be one of peace
Your reign my king will not be one of smiles
Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank
Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a blood wet martyr's crown.
Oh black Kennedy following the one before
May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse
As you walk in silence from the stage of life
Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king.

[christian]

Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a blood wet martyr's crown.

Make him a martyr... wouldn't suprise me. :mmph:

[naste.de.lumina]

Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a blood wet martyr's crown.

Make him a martyr... wouldn't suprise me. :mmph:

I do not doubt anything. All this means is convenience.

[Rania]

Obama support this in Egypt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFX1heljE9k

[Maunagarjana]

I don't think he'll be martyred. He does what is expected of him by TPTB. I'm sure one of the first messages he sent after being elected was, "I'm not trying to be Jack Kennedy. I'm willing to play ball. As long as you let me know where the line is, I won't cross it." He's more valuable to them alive anyway.

[naste.de.lumina]

I don't think he'll be martyred. He does what is expected of him by TPTB. I'm sure one of the first messages he sent after being elected was, "I'm not trying to be Jack Kennedy. I'm willing to play ball. As long as you let me know where the line is, I won't cross it." He's more valuable to them alive anyway.

Your observation makes sense buddy.
However, all is convenience and opportunity in this environment, so if I were him, put my beard sauce.
Thank you.

[Maunagarjana]

Your observation makes sense buddy.
However, all is convenience and opportunity in this environment, so if I were him, put my beard sauce.
Thank you.

I'm sorry, but the phrase "put my beard sauce" doesn't seem to compute. Did something get lost in translation?? ;)

[naste.de.lumina]

Your observation makes sense buddy.
However, all is convenience and opportunity in this environment, so if I were him, put my beard sauce.
Thank you.

I'm sorry, but the phrase "put my beard sauce" doesn't seem to compute. Did something get lost in translation?? ;)

sorry, it's a brazilian buzzword. Correcting would be 'aware'.

[ghostrider]

He will get his library, and photos with the other skull and bones nutjobs... but come the revolution, will his library still be standing ??? they have gone to far with this spying shyte ...funny it took an african american to destroy civil liberties and freedom , and go bow down to china for money ...

[Mark]

Despite the hype, Obama's presence in office is one of the only reasons this country hasn't exploded into revolution yet.

He's African-American to the extent that his father was African (maybe) and he has lived in America for most of his life. He shares the experience of having darker skin in this country which informs his race-based sensitivities (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/culturally-speaking/201305/can-racism-cause-ptsd-implications-dsm-5). He does not share the multi-generational history and genetic trauma (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100908102058.htm) of the bulk of Black Americans.

From the revolutionary war (http://thegrio.com/2013/05/27/remembering-crispus-attucks-and-the-forgotten-black-soldiers-of-the-american-revolution/) to the civil war (http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/news-african-american-soldiers-civil-war) to vietnam (http://www.vvawai.org/archive/sw/sw31/pgs_25-34/black_gis_revolt.html), to the Civil Rights (http://www.scholastic.com/teachers/article/civil-rights-movement-overview) and Decolonization Freedom movements (http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/essay-challenge-of-decolonization-africa.html), Blacks in America and abroad have fought and died for freedom.

Because he has been in office, Black Americans have not been in the streets. Because they have not been in the streets, despite the fact that they, we, are worse of materially now than at any point of time in modern American history (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-02-01/business/36682625_1_disparities-black-joblessness-black-unemployment-rate), the day to day illusion that everything is alright has been preserved. But things are bad and getting worse for every demographic. And there is no resolution in sight. Things will not get better with a Democratic or a Republican come next election cycle. And Blacks in America will not sit still much longer.

When you have nothing to lose, you have everything to gain.

Credo Mutwah's poem is a paen to the divine kingship on a par meaning-wise with Shakespeare's work, tragic and transcendent. He is evoking much more than mere words can convey. The beauty and tragedy of this period, the pride and the sorrow of situation, of powers moving ponderously and inevitably toward a foreshadowed conclusion that is not the end, but a new beginning. If Obama is martyred in the next two years as Credo implies?

Our nation will change that day.