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ktlight
30th July 2011, 09:30
FYI:

This is part two of "Was Sinking of Titanic an Insurance Scam?" by John Hamer

"The surviving crew were detained overnight and forced to sign a pledge under the 'Official Secrets Act', promising to keep secret forever, the actual events of the night of 14th / 15th April, 1912"

The Captain of Titanic, Edward Smith (left) had been traversing the North Atlantic waters for more than a quarter of a century. He was regarded as the 'world's most experienced master' in the North Atlantic but Smith knew all along that his ship would be made to sink on its 'first' voyage.

He also had complete knowledge of where the icebergs were. Under his boss J.P. Morgan's secret orders, he propelled Titanic full speed at 22 knots on a moonless night and through a ice field 80 square miles in size.

Captain Smith's actions were totally out of character. Significantly and conveniently, Smith in the age-old tradition, as Captain, went down with the ship. Could Smith have even been 'allowed' to survive, knowing as he did, the real truth about the incident?

As is well known, there were not enough lifeboats for all passengers and crew. Some boats left the ship as little as only one quarter full. The Captain strangely ordered white flares knowing full well that the international standard for distress flares was red. Other ships passing within sight of these flares were intentionally confused and thought the Titanic was having a fireworks party.

In his book, "Titanic, the Ship that Didn't Sink," Robin Gardner states, "As I delved deeper into the story, more and more inconsistencies became apparent. Inconsistencies that individually meant little but collectively pointed to a grimmer reality than that usually depicted in the heroic legend".

He continues, "Officers who were later acclaimed as heroes were exposed as anything but. One in particular removed a little boy from a lifeboat at gunpoint, before escaping in that same boat himself".

"Descriptions of the collision and damage supposedly sustained by Titanic do not agree. The 'slight scrape' with the ice that was hardly noticed by most aboard contradicts solid evidence of structural damage at least 5½ feet (1.6 meters) within the outer hull of the vessel".

"Then came evidence to show that the ice the ship encountered was seen first not 500 yards (480 meters) ahead but more like 11 miles (17km). I began to wonder if perhaps the sinking of the Titanic might not have been an accident after all".

Indeed, did Titanic actually strike an iceberg at all? We only have the testimony of four people believe it or not with which to confirm or deny this fact. First Officer Murdoch would have been the fifth witness but he did not live to tell his story.

The Titanic was not the only ship at that precise location that night. For example, there is a photograph of a drifting lifeboat sporting the colors of a different ship than the Titanic.

Then there is the gouge in the side of the ship itself - 1.6 meters deep through the outer steel plates and into the inner skin! Compacted ice is known to be very strong, but it is not capable of doing such damage to steel.

INQUIRIES

Both the American and British official inquiries were considered 'whitewashes', with much evidence ignored and eye-witness testimonies being twisted or indeed fabricated to fit the 'official' story.

Of the 102 witnesses called to the British Inquiry, only two were passengers. None of the witnesses (crew or passengers) were allowed to offer first-hand evidence of any kind and were strictly restricted to the simple answering of questions without elaboration. By any standards at all, this sounds very much like a 'whitewash' to me.

A 'yellow-funneled steamer' observed in the proximity of Titanic by the officers and crew of the Californian at around the time of the incident. This ship has never been identified.

"...I saw another steamer approaching, and asked [the wireless operator] what vessels he had within reach; he replied: 'The Titanic', whereupon I replied, 'That is not the Titanic; she is too small and hasn't enough lights.'
Shortly afterwards this steamer stopped and was bearing S.S.E. about five or six miles from our position. ...the chief officer was sweeping the southern horizon with his glasses, and finally reported he saw a four-mast steamer with a yellow funnel to the southward of us, and asked if we should try to get down to have a look at her." Captain Lord of the Californian in an interview with an American newspaper reporter in 1914.

The crew of this ship (whatever she was) must have been aware that they were close to the Titanic, so why did no-one volunteer any information?

Could this mysterious yellow-funneled vessel have been responsible for the devastating damage to Titanic? The 'iceberg collision' is just a cover story concocted to protect the guilty.

Furthermore, upon arriving back in England, from New York aboard the steamer Lapland, two weeks after the disaster, 173 of the surviving crew me denied their right to speak with their trade union representatives.

They were also detained and forced to sign a pledge under the 'Official Secrets Act', promising to keep secret forever, the actual events of the night of 14th / 15th April.

Otherwise, they would be prosecuted and 'never work again', not just for White Star but for any other employer. In those now far-off days, the inability to procure gainful employment could be almost a death sentence to the crews and their families.

CONCLUSION

Did Captain Smith deliberately steer Titanic into a huge ice-field without reducing speed to create a cover-story for the Titanic to be rammed by the yellow-funneled mystery ship?

Along with the officer on duty on the Bridge at that time, First Officer William Murdoch and Quartermaster Hitchens plus Quartermaster George Rowe on the after-bridge, lookouts Frederick Fleet and Reginald Lee were the only other ones known to have personally witnessed the appalling events.

Of these five witnesses, four survived, significantly all of them 'lower-class' people. Forcing four working-class people to keep quiet over a century ago, would have been a relatively simple task.

First Officer Murdoch is said to have 'committed suicide' in the aftermath of the collision whilst the ship was being abandoned. He has also been accused of shooting passengers before turning a gun on himself, something that his family and descendants have disputed. Could there be a more sinister explanation for his demise along with that of Captain Smith?

Down the years, suicide has always been a very convenient cover-story for many a silencing murder. How easy would it have been under the circumstances for a paid assassin to dispose of Messrs Smith, Murdoch, as well as the financiers Guggenheim, Strauss and Astor?

Thus, these wealthy men, who may have opposed the formation of the Federal Reserve System (granted, due to their own conflicting financial interests and not out of any great concern for the plight of the masses), were disposed of, along with the 'collateral damage' of 1517 other innocents.

source
http://www.henrymakow.com/questionssurround.html

Lord Sidious
30th July 2011, 10:18
I am surprised he didn't bring the other theory in, the one about the bankers on board who would have fought the formation of the federal reserve bank.

Ria
30th July 2011, 11:09
It seems almost all disaster have a hidden hand behind them.

toothpick
30th July 2011, 12:05
Hi ktlight
I was reading about this story somewhere I forget now where it was.
Anyway, some of the shipyard workers made statements at the time.
They said that there was twin ships built, but, they were not exactly the same.
That some of the top deck plates on the second ship were installed by fitters because they were using up existing plate.
So these pieces were cut to fit, and, are very different looking than the first ship.
They also said that there was some company construction pictures taken that would show the truth for all to see.
J P Morgan Knew the ship was going to the bottom so he ordered all the scrap plate be used.
Of course the best ship builders in the world would never take notice of this.
They knew something was going on, you don,t build a new ship using scrap pieces of plate.
If they had said anything about it there family would probably starve.

Unbelievably, 1517 innocent souls die for some insidious insurance scheme.
Another penny pinching stupid billionaire.

toothpick

Snoweagle
30th July 2011, 12:35
Lord Sidious: the last paragraph refers to your reference

Lovely thread, thanks for posting.

Lord Sidious
30th July 2011, 12:48
Lord Sidious: the last paragraph refers to your reference

Lovely thread, thanks for posting.

Oops, you're right.
How nugget. :o

seko
30th July 2011, 14:32
This is why I love this Forum, I never thought the Titanic had a different story.....than what we were told.

:juggle:

Thank you KT

Ontarioguy
30th July 2011, 14:47
Yup many theories out there, including the one mentioned above by Lord Sidious, about certain bankers on board who opposed the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank. I believe Benjamin Guggenheim was one who opposed it. And funny how he was asked to be aboard this maiden voyage by JP and the boys...can just imagine them boys who were in favour of the bank....saying to him....C'mon...it'll do ya good etc. Imagine the publicity...etc. Then there was the theory that good ol Captain Smith was a Jesuit!! And totally involved in the premeditated fate of that ship. Geees who knows eh? But it is pretty errie how this Federal Reserve bank openned one year later after the sinking of the ship. Hmmm??? no longer anyone with power opposed..., so lets open er boys. Ahh well perhaps I am ramblin on...but hey, look this stuff up on the net.....that is where I found it. It could be all nonsense....BUT! suppose it could be true??

Tane Mahuta
30th July 2011, 14:59
It seems almost all disasters have a hidden hand behind them.

Yes, the hands of the "Filthy Few". To control the many


TM

Maia Gabrial
30th July 2011, 15:10
Wouldn't you know it, JP Morgan (owned by ROCKEFELLER) is connected to this disaster. Why am I not surprised...?
Thanks for finding this one, ktlight

Operator
30th July 2011, 15:15
Lord Sidious: the last paragraph refers to your reference

Lovely thread, thanks for posting.

Oh good, I didn't read the article but my initial thought was that it could be a deliberate distraction from that theory.

daledo
30th July 2011, 16:13
Wouldn't you know it, JP Morgan (owned by ROCKEFELLER) is connected to this disaster. Why am I not surprised...?
Thanks for finding this one, ktlight

Don't forget the Rothchild's owned the Rockefeller's.