Bone Infection question

[TigaHawk]

Allo all

Twice this year ive had the most excruitiating pain in my life in my neck. The pain seemed to come from my jaw, but extended around the whole side of my neck.

I've only once experienced pain like this before the two occasions this year, and that was before i had my wisdom teeth removed. The same area that the pain has started up recently, is the area that 1 of my wisdom teeth got an absyss under it. The pain from that was there was a buildup of yucky stuff and since the tooth was still there it had nowhere to escape too.

I have a feeling in my tummy that says the recent upset in my jaw/neck was not because of a strained muscel or me getting my bones misaligned - but possibly something to do with a bone infection. Perhaps some residual gunk was left there from my wisdom tooth and my body was never able to properly clear it out due to where it was located, and that now my gum has grown over/sealed off the areas.


If it happens again - i'd be willing to bet money that this is where the problem lies.
(My mum was talking to some workmates about it and another workmate said their son went thru something extremly similar. So far ive had an Ultrasound, Xray of my Neck (not jaw) and a MRI of my neck done. All show nothing wrong at all. He went thru the same, it wasnt untill he ended up in hospital because the pain was that bad did they find it was a bone infection for him)


How does one get rid of a bone infection without the use of antibiotics? Would MMS work?

Id muchly prefer to stay far away from antibiotics as possible. I'm currently finishing off a round of "Doryx" which the doctor perscribed me when i went in to see them about the pain in my head/neck. The doctor stuck his little light/seeing thing up my nose and goes oh that's infected/inflamed and perscribed me some other drug similar to Doryx, but my body seriously had issues with it so he changed it to the Doryx. My body still disagrees with it, but not as bad. Needless to say i'd muchly like to avoid Antibiotics unless its a must. I said yes to this lot purely becuase of the ammount of pain i was in and i was willing to try anything to get rid of it.

Thanks muchly for you're advice!

[markoid]

I would look into bone cavitation... a job for the dentist, probably a specialist one. Basically the bone can sometimes heal over where a tooth has been removed and the resulting enclosed cavitation can breed all sorts of nasties and can be very toxic.

[fathertedsmate]

MMS will work,all pain is caused by liver not functioning,as it should,ie combinations of chemicals toxins,heavy metals,generating the body to be acidic,creating fungus,yeast,mould, remove them change condition of blood, ensure body has fuel that it can use,the pain will go away,Probiotics (KEFIR) ps do you have any amalgam fillings

[Lord Sidious]

Could it be TMJ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporomandibular_joint_disorder

[loveandgratitude]

Rinse your mouth out with Hydrogen Peroxide.................3% mixed with water. Look into fasting for 1-4 days. At a time when you are not doing anything. Also see a dentist and have an X-Ray just to see what is happening.

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[Rocky_Shorz]

one flaw in human anatomy is the ear to mouth "drain" when an infection starts at the tooth, it blocks the flow which backs up causing pain and headaches.

HP will kill the infection and you can rub out the blockage just below your ear and behind the jaw bone, you'll know when you find the spot because it will hurt rubbing...

the effects are immediate, you might even hear bubbling in your ear canal...

[TigaHawk]

Allo all, tx for you're imput.

I get no ear popping, no funny noises, my nose/ears were clear and not running/backed up at all. My ears, and around my ears were fine. When the pain started it felt like the entire side of my neck. After 1-2 days my neck would still hurt, but the centre of the pain seemed to be my jaw. Grab your'e hand and put it up against you're jaw, move it to the very back where the jaw connects to the skull, then get you're fingers and curl them under, so you're pushing up into the fleshy area there - near where your'e Saliva gland should be. There was the exact location it was coming from, the bottom of the jaw bone area. An Ultrasound, and MRI put my Saliva/Other glands that are in that area as perfectly fine. When it was still fairly painfull if you did a comparison with teh finger-curling-pushing thing on one side and the other - the side with the pain had a "fullness" too it. Wouldent be able to push in as much as the other side - even tho there was suposidly nothing wrong with my glands.

Just the doctor stuck his perescope up my nose and said it was inflamed. :S I personaly did not notice any of this.

But thanks Rocky as next time i get one of those colds, i diddnt know you could help ease it by trying to help the liquids move along.

The only crunching/popping noises i did get, was when i performed the chicken-head excersizes. I think that was because ive never done them before - similar to when you crack your'e ankle/wrist (move them round in a circular motion and you'll ehar the popping/cracking if you havent done it in a while)


I used hydrogen peroxide when i had my wisdom teeth out - Can it penetrate thru the flesh tho to get to other areas? I can only see this working if i had an open wound or something in the mouth where the HP could get to easily - not have to pass thru flesh to get to another area to work?


Lord Sid - i dont think its TMJ because of where the pain was located and the only symptom i have to compare with is pain - nothing else. My jaw would open/close (still does :P) fine - no noises, no nothing.


Quite a weird one - So far it's eluded 2 rounds of Xrays MRI's and Ultrasounds on 2 different occasions - hense why im beginning to think its a Bone Infection / Bone Cavitaton where 1 of my wisdom teeth were pulled out from

[Czarek]

to check if you have bone infection, you could have a bone scan first at a nuclear medicine department, it involves an injection of radioactive tracer (Tc-99m MDP), you get a scan with a gamma camera 2-3 hr later, and if the bone scan shows questionable areas in the bone, you would follow up with a scan using radiactive labled white cells. Typically it's an Indium 111 tracer tag. The scan is 24hrs after injection.
You'll know if there is infection in the bone. But why go through all that if you could just start with MMS

[Lifebringer]

That's why we shouldn't divy up the body parts when treating. They eliminated a very important detection when they eliminated dental in the healthcare system. The poisons can kill you heart and cause lots of infection in the body if undetected. Check with the dentist again and tell him the symptoms are the same as when the tooth had to be removed, and if they could recommend some sort of test to see if the toxins from your jaw, may have spread elsewhere and are now causing problems. Tell them it's not to assign blame, for no one can no how badly an infection has spread, by removing the tooth, but if the danger of those toxins may have spread, how can you get a test to find out and what test would he recommend to have it done.

Hope I've been helpful, I am INFJ and a compassionate protector of life.

[Lifebringer]

Chew raw cloves of garlic to boost immune system to fight any infection. It is the bodies natural anti-biotic and more acceptable to cells and tissue. Try it for a week, if no improvement, there's no harm, go to the doctor. But when i had infected teeth, they helped me. Thank the screwy dental coverage denials for that.
Besides, flouride is bad for the peneal gland. Don't want to mess with that at this time.

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Look up the book "Back to Eden" by Jethro Kloss. Natural remedies that work and the pharma companies fought him to not put in print.

[TigaHawk]

Flouride hasnt been anywhere near me for 2 years now. I intend to keep it that way. Other than the wisdom teeth ive been lucky - Good arsekickings from my parents when young ensured i brush my teeth every night - I have no cavaties, holes etc. The wisdom teeth were removed only because they started causing me pain. If they haddent of caused me pain they'd still be there (even tho the dentist said i shuld get them removed anyway as they were growing and pushing my other teeth in funny directions)


Alot of minced garlic in meals work ok as an alternate to chewing on garlic cloves? Bit too bitter for me (i am what you would call a sissy) and i do not think i'd be able to hold it down by itself. I do love the taste of garlic tho, and kind of overkill in my cooking when i put garlic in (Recipe says 1 small teaspoon - In reality it gets 2-3 big ones :P)

Dental is still in the healthcare system over in Australia. But im pretty sure you'd have more luck jumping off a 20 story building and living than you would getting an apointment within 2 years from when you requested it.


Will have to wait till next payday to go see the dentist. Blew most of this fortnights paycheque on running around seeing the doctor/getting tests for that thing. I regret it now - but dear god when i was in pain it was worth every damn cent!

[dddanieljjjamesss]

eliminate sugar
eat lots of natural antibiotics (garlic is my personal favorite)
eat raw milk, cheese, butter, and some beef (make sure it is grass fed, and look up alternative recipes for eating meat raw)
make bone soup

you need the Omega fatty acids for your bone and marrow to reconstruct
and infections really rely on a food source and they love sugar

i used this to heal a potential root canal / really bad cavity that was causing severe pain in my jaw

when i finally went back to the dentist, after a year and a half with no visits, no cavity was found. at all.



it's also important to understand the energetic reasons behind illness and attempt to treat them alchemically at the source... somewhat harder to understand but if you're 'in the know' just feel it out and see what you can do to remove the energy blockages that are causing you to decay.

[NancyV]

My husband had a lot of pain in his jaw under an infected tooth. He didn't want to get the tooth removed so he took Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) which kept the infection under control and got rid of the pain. That lasted about a year until his tooth finally broke a few days ago. Now he's going to have it removed.

Whenever he forgot to take the GSE the pain of the infection would return, so it worked very well to keep the pain away as long as he remembered to take it. I have also used GSE for flu or an occasional infection and it works well and quickly. I'm allergic to ALL antibiotics so have had to find natural substitutes.

Here in the US the best deal on GSE is the NSI brand at Vitacost.com
NSI GSE: http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Grapefruit-Seed-Extract

Nutribiotic is another popular brand of GSE but after using it for many years we found NSI GSE and it works a bit better and is less expensive:
NUTRIBIOTIC GSE:http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-Grapefruit-Seed-Extract-Capsules-Plus

Vitacost ships to Australia. I buy almost all our supplements from Vitacost since it's a lot less expensive than buying in the stores. The dosage of GSE my husband takes is 3 pills twice a day.

Hope you find a way to get rid of your pain!

[Anchor]

Tigahawk,

Since it has not come up yet, please consider a good fasting as part of your armory.

John..

[Lettherebelight]

Hi Tigahawk,
It may sound a little 'airy fairy', but disfunctions in this area of the body can be related to the the Visuddha (5th) chakra, the throat energy centre of the body. You can google it and become acquainted with the nature of this energy centre. It mainly relates to communication and expressing our authentic self through our speech.
Sometimes the chakra spins too fast, and their can be dogmatic views expressed in a self-righteous way. Or, if the Vishuddha chakra is blocked, then there may be some obstruction in voicing our views freely. Where do we mask ourselves, stifle our truth?
Like Anchor says, fasting is a very effective way of balancing the chakras and getting in tune with what we need to do to take things to the next level. Even wearing an indigo coloured scarf can activate this chakra. Certain yoga asanas (ie. shoulder stand), stone therapy massage, eating lots of fruit fruit ( blueberries!) can all be helpful in balancing this chakra.
From a more practical viewpoint, you can always try to akalise your body through diet (again, info on how to do this is on the net), or try good old colloidal silver, which has the potency to eradicate infection like nothing else I know of...naturally!
Hope this helps...any kind of pain is no fun! You are young, you are wise beyond your years, let your voice ring out to the people like a bell of justice for the benefit of all! :high5:

[Lord Sidious]

That's why we shouldn't divy up the body parts when treating. They eliminated a very important detection when they eliminated dental in the healthcare system. The poisons can kill you heart and cause lots of infection in the body if undetected. Check with the dentist again and tell him the symptoms are the same as when the tooth had to be removed, and if they could recommend some sort of test to see if the toxins from your jaw, may have spread elsewhere and are now causing problems. Tell them it's not to assign blame, for no one can no how badly an infection has spread, by removing the tooth, but if the danger of those toxins may have spread, how can you get a test to find out and what test would he recommend to have it done.

Hope I've been helpful, I am INFJ and a compassionate protector of life.

You are correct.
I had a bad tooth infection in 09. I ignored the discomfort and it got worse.
To the point it almost gave me a heart attack.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

There are lots of great suggestions here. I'd like to add that I had years of dental problems and experienced terrible pain as you are doing now. One relief was even a mouthwash of HP. It's a true healer that helps in this area. Your throat chakra is vital, too. All of these are great points that have been brought up here. For instance relief I'd use HP at least to get the pain part to go away until you can get to the root source. It is so full of real healing oxygen, it benefits more than your mouth. You have my full sympathy, there is nothing quite as torturous as pain in these areas. Be well, your body is self-healing but it takes a whole change of attitude and our way of life before healing can come in most instances. Until then, I send you great blessings! xoxoxox

[Arrowwind]

Seems that no diagnosis has been made on this issue yet. Its hard to suggest what to do when the problem is not clear.
MMS orally and as a gargle may help but if you need dental care best to figure that out and get to it.

There really is a difference in the quality of dentist that you choose. Biomemetic dentisty is the cutting edge in dental care and I would not go near any others ever again.

You can learn all about it here and I also provide a link to the page to find a Biomemetic dentist in your area. The last thing you want or need is a root canal and these are now turning into antiquated dentisty... it is not the future and these dentists are turining it all around.

http://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomimetic-dentistry-ozone-dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/