Have you sold your soul!!??

[<8>]

This thread is for people who get paid to bee on sites like this one.
Do you pretend to be a friend to people here, and just feed the diss-info?
Or do you go around trying to mess up threads?

Do you feel good when you are wid your loved ones, after a day of work destroying peoples threads?

Do you feel you made the future more safe, after a day of work?

If you dont think you sold your soul. Please tell us what you think...

Or maby you dont get paid at all?

Me personally dont judge you, you are allready forgiven in my heart. And i think most of the people here can and will forgive you, if you take that step and tell us your story.


Am i paranoid? Not at all !
I just got this feeling i needed to ask. I just go where my heart takes me.

P.s If you feel you sold out back in the days. Plz feel free to tell why you got back on track .

[RMorgan]

Dear friend,

I don´t think people need to get payed to screw things up.

Most people are so brainwashed, that they feel the need to come to places like this, to impose their "opinion" by force, just like it was done to them.

There are several kinds of personalities (mostly three kinds) on forums like this one...

Some of them were brainwashed by the mainstream belief system, others, were equally brainwashed by the alternative belief system or alternative media.

Fortunately, there are also persons here, who use reason and rationality wisely enough to avoid falling on any brainwashing trap.

Let´s take Elenin as a current example:

The mainstream system brainwashed guy say: You´re wrong! That´s nothing to worry about, it´s just a comet! Live your lives!

The second kind, the alternative system brainwashed guy say: No! You´re wrong! It´s Nibiru! We´re all doomed! Elenin means Extinction Level Event Nibiru Is Near! Run to the hills!

The third kind, the sound and rational individual, who makes intelligent use of information to ponder about every possibility, says: Calm down, we don´t have enough reliable information from both sides, to conclude if it´s a real treat or not. Let´s analyze the data carefully before taking precipitate conclusions.

The history proves, that passion is not the right tool to make accurate analysis of facts and data. It always leads to inaccurate passionate conclusions, with no solid foundations. It leads to extremism, which is very very dangerous.

IMHO, both the extremist skeptic, and the extremist believer are, at some point, equally ignorant. Both kinds deny to make use of reason to analyze information. One refuses to believe. The other, believes anything.

Great forums like this, are actually made by the guys in the middle. The guys who make careful analyses of the data presented here, to use the maximum of his intellectual potential to take his own sound conclusions. Guys who refuse to just believe any unusual theory before analyzing the facts, but, at the same time, doesn´t discard any unusual theory before analyzing the facts and possibilities as well.

In other words, open minded persons. Persons who choose to follow the middle path. Balanced persons.

Don´t underestimate the complexity of the game played by our societies rulers. They don´t need to pay anyone! It´s just the opposite of it! People pay to get brainwashed, either with cable tv, watching hollywood movies, or buying new-agey dvds and miraculous gadgets!

After someone is brainwashed, he knows, in some deep part of his mind, that he´s wrong! He feels guilty, so he needs other persons to confirm he´s right, and he tries to make people agree with him at any costs, even if the use of force is necessary!

Stay sound, my friend, don´t fall for the extremes!

Cheers,

Raf.

[<8>]

Thanks Morgan...

I agree 100%


But i am sure there are people who work for the governments who are doing just this things we are talking about.

And i guess that was my main thought..

[RMorgan]

Yes. There are people working for the government with the purpose of confusing us. However, just a small part of them are actually receiving direct money for it and, I don´t think those persons are directly present on this forum, mostly, because they´re very busy running their big businesses.

There are lots of people here working for the government, but they actually don´t know about it, making them perfect soldiers of dis-information.

Imagine a soldier that you don´t have to pay for his work. A soldier that, if captured by the enemy, has nothing important intel to compromise. A soldier that, once programmed with his orders, will do anything to accomplish his tasks, and the most important, a soldier who believes he´s actually a rebel!

We´re dealing with real strategic thinking here, my friend. Paying someone just to go to internet forums, with the purpose of directly planting the seeds of confusion, is a just a kid´s game if compared to what we´re dealing with.

You´re actually talking about active spies, but spies are things from the past. We´re actually dealing with the kind of soldier who really believes his enemy is his best friend, a soldier who points a weapon on your face disguised as flowers, without even knowing it!

Believe me, THESE guys are near to perfection in terms of the most efficient weapon of mass destruction, which is called passive manipulation.

Why would they pay a person, if this person already works for them, full time, 24/7, with no charge, and even better, if this person actually pays to work for them?

This is the real deal, my friend. These guys know the real meaning of the word "intelligence".

[truth4me]

Thanks Morgan...

I agree 100%


But i am sure there are people who work for the governments who are doing just this things we are talking about.

And i guess that was my main thought..It only makes sense that there are government paid "stooges" roaming internet sites like this one to throw awaken people off. This is not 1974 this is 2011 and the information age is blooming bigger then ever.......

[Tony]

I don't see the point..... we are harmless!

[TigaHawk]

I am paid by government, that doestn make me bad!!

Tho im paid to rock up and sit in the room of a basement and answer the door every now and then and change the occasional tape backup, definately not for surfing the web and posting on forums :P

[Fred Steeves]

Thanks Morgan...

I agree 100%


But i am sure there are people who work for the governments who are doing just this things we are talking about.

And i guess that was my main thought..It only makes sense that there are government paid "stooges" roaming internet sites like this one to throw awaken people off. This is not 1974 this is 2011 and the information age is blooming bigger then ever.......

So long as we attune to our highest potential, that mine field can be a piece of cake.

Cheers,
Fred

[Maia Gabrial]

Pie'n'eal,
:becky:

[Curt]

Yes. There are people working for the government with the purpose of confusing us. However, just a small part of them are actually receiving direct money for it and, I don´t think those persons are directly present on this forum, mostly, because they´re very busy running their big businesses.

There are lots of people here working for the government, but they actually don´t know about it, making them perfect soldiers of dis-information.

Imagine a soldier that you don´t have to pay for his work. A soldier that, if captured by the enemy, has nothing important intel to compromise. A soldier that, once programmed with his orders, will do anything to accomplish his tasks, and the most important, a soldier who believes he´s actually a rebel!

We´re dealing with real strategic thinking here, my friend. Paying someone just to go to internet forums, with the purpose of directly planting the seeds of confusion, is a just a kid´s game if compared to what we´re dealing with.

You´re actually talking about active spies, but spies are things from the past. We´re actually dealing with the kind of soldier who really believes his enemy is his best friend, a soldier who points a weapon on your face disguised as flowers, without even knowing it!

Believe me, THESE guys are near to perfection in terms of the most efficient weapon of mass destruction, which is called passive manipulation.

Why would they pay a person, if this person already works for them, full time, 24/7, with no charge, and even better, if this person actually pays to work for them?

This is the real deal, my friend. These guys know the real meaning of the word "intelligence".

Like little Agent Smiths......

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I don't see the point..... we are harmless!

Far from it I'm afraid Pie n eal,
There are resources thrown at sites like this one (remember the Atticus debacle)
TPTB fear few things but the main thing they fear is exposure!!
Never in the history of the modern World has there been such a time of awakening (or a time of information)
This is what they fear, and believe you me, they are doing what they feel they must to stop/manage the situation.
Anyone who feels we are insignificant in the great scheme of things has missed the point IMHO. I too thought this way at one time. I was wrong.

Hurritt

[ulli]

Thanks Morgan...

I agree 100%


But i am sure there are people who work for the governments who are doing just this things we are talking about.

And i guess that was my main thought..It only makes sense that there are government paid "stooges" roaming internet sites like this one to throw awaken people off. This is not 1974 this is 2011 and the information age is blooming bigger then ever.......

So long as we attune to our highest potential, that mine field can be a piece of cake.

Cheers,
Fred

Not to forget mines are being defused all the time and some are even being turned into magic wands.
Sparkling.....

[RMorgan]

Not to forget mines are being defused all the time and some are even being turned into magic wands.
Sparkling.....

That´s my point. Real mines are obsolete. We´re dealing with mines disguised as apple pies.

Just remember insects, there are attracted to a beautiful light, just to die toasted.

[<8>]

Thanks for the respons guys...


I am sorry if i stept on people who work for the government. I just whanted the bad guy to turn its self in..:P

Did i think this might work, no i am not naive.. Keep up the good work guys.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the government will pay us to blog?

8 hours a day on their tab and the other 16 hours are mine... that's plenty of time for me to make trouble... lol

sign me up

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

Have you sold your soul!!??

I tried but my Akasha records show that I was a clairvoyant before, so they gave up. :p



All kidding aside...would it make such a big difference if there were paid "stooges"?

The internal radars and intuition of the majority of the members here would eek them out in no time, surely?

[jjjones]

Hi All! Never underestimate the games people play. Remember that all myths, tales, fiction, etc all have a seed of factual truth/experience as a base. Assuming doesn't work too well. Even if something is staring you straight in the face there are times that one doesn't see it. There are different levels of intelligence, but Wisdom, Insight and Awareness are the signs of the real intelligence. Thank you for all of your insights! Namaste,Love and Peace to each of you :)

[grapevine]

All I know is that ... hand on heart ....I do what I can for the people around me. I try to be the best I can be for my family and friends in support and also the people I see sitting in the street out of work. I support the Blind, the Red Cross, RSPCA on direct debits and yet i know it's not enough to make a real difference and that I could give more. I feel like a sinner for wanting to buy a food processor or a new tumble drier and feel guilty because my family has more than enough food to sustain them and we throw out food past its sell by date (although we have a 'crow' food bag that is dished out to them in the park twice a week minimum). I'm also aware of the corruption at ministerial level of small countries so that our money does not go to where we want. I am also aware of the countless wonderful people who put their lives on the line and wish I was one of them .......

But what does this really mean ...? I am just one of a hundred thousand plus people, all doing what we can every day. What else can we do and why should we feel guilty for not doing more? And I do ............. :(

But if we all do what we can then at least it's something in the right direction?

Have I sold my soul? You tell me ........

[One]

Have you sold your soul!!??

I tried but my Akasha records show that I was a clairvoyant before, so they gave up. :p



All kidding aside...would it make such a big difference if there were paid "stooges"?

The internal radars and intuition of the majority of the members here would eek them out in no time, surely?

Imho it would make a difference. I think for example that when studying threads there is a tendency to skip it if you see a hint that it might not be credible.

I suspect one tactic would be to trash a thread as early on as possible so the person quickly flags off a topic as rubbish internally (to avoid looking at ever again). It would be less effective later in a thread. Personally I get suspicious when a poster jumps in as early as possibly, implying that anybody falling for the material, must be stupid.

I don't think paid debunkers would be detected that easily either. Something like the tactic above would probably get written off as ego etc. How can you tell if a debunker is ignorant, correct, or paid by TPTB? I know plenty of "normal" people, who would take great pleasure in proving me incorrect on a conspiratorial subject, with what might seem to me to be very poor logic. There would be plenty of more subtle techniques to use I would imagine as well (such as disinfo).

I find the 2012 thing interesting as well. I hope that things are changing and the positive messages I enjoy reading are correct. However, how much damage would it do if it all turned out to be wrong. Could we continue the faith and the fight? I suspect a lot of ground would be lost if there is a battle going on here?

[bitworm]

I don't know about government workers, but I know for sure there are 'commercial interests' who pay people to go post on forums. But they will only throw disinfo if it is in their best interests commercially (i.e. linkbaiting). People who are trying to start up some new forums will often employ such workers to populate the boards with topics that would compel a 'real' person to sign up and respond. Cuts down on the sock-puppeting time.

On established forums, they generally try to fly under the radar until their account has a somewhat credible appearance, then they start dropping links or PM spamming. For forums that have an active marketplace (Buy/Sell sections), they will try to set up shop there. Or they could abandon the account for a year or 2 and use it as a 'sleeper', or just collect these accounts and sell them off.

[jjjones]

Hello Windmill ! Why all of the confusion within you? There is absolutely no reason for guilt. Our actions mean a great deal, but peace within ones self means even more. Seem as if you have some doubt about who you are and who you are not. In case you don't realize it, you are one of these wonderful people. Don't focus too much on yourself and focus on the unconditional love that you can give others. It is not necessary for you to ask others to determine/judge whether you have sold your soul, but I will give you my answer. Only YOU know if you sold your soul. Only You can judge yourself. Only You can unconditionally accept , forgive and love yourself. All truth lies within You. :) Namaste, Peace and Love jjj