20 NAVY SEAL 6 Team Members killed in crash

[Apofay]

I found this interesting. 20 of the members of the team that "took out" Osama killed. Government trying to cover it's tracks? http://www.ktnv.com/news/national/127064378.html

Unless tipped off how would the Taliban know the 6 team was aboard for revenge?

[Muzz]

The ol Jack Ruby move.

[phillipbbg]

Does seem a little convenient, is there an inquire coming up? No one to interview....Mmmmm

[Tony]

The trouble is, we know now!!!!!

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

Unless tipped off how would the Taliban know the 6 team was aboard for revenge?

If it actually was the Taliban that did it...

[Unified Serenity]

Bhutto said for years that Bin Laden was already dead, and of coarse she was killed not that long ago. It's rather convenient that there is no one who can come forward from team 6 who was there. Oh, they may drag someone out who says they were there, but basically this looks like a false flag event meant to tie up loose ends. Bin Laden had nothing to do with the World Trade center 9/11 incident. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with it either. Interestingly, they claimed most of the highjackers were from Saudi Arabia, but did we go after the Saudi's? Nope, of coarse we didn't, they are good friends of the Bush's.

So, we get a new boogy man "War on Terror" that has no exact country to target, but of coarse we go after Iraq. There's an interesting oil pipeline to deal with there as well as opening up profits for the 4 big oil companies Hussein threw out years before. There's lucrative secondary contracts to run the war for big corporations. They waste tons of money burning vehicles with broken oil pumps, computers that were fine, but not exactly what they ordered, just tons of waste, and the tales of stolen antiquities and possible ancient alien artifacts. Let's not forget the larger grabs for power and stripping of constitutional rights because as some would say, "I don't mind these searches of my body if it keeps us safe" attitude. The problem is, we are NOT safer. We have only lost more privacy and learned to be treated like criminals and sexually harrassed by knuckle dragging TSA agents some with criminal records of their own.

The economy is imploding, we have crazy mob attacks here in America, disasters beyond imagining worldwide, and yet let's start more wars, have the Fed bail out foreign banks and all while American's worry about the latest reality show or sporting event. Rome is burning and I hear the symphony tuning their instruments.

Buckle up it's only going to get more interesting. I think Confusious would have enjoyed being alive today.

[pyrangello]

I had a conversation with someone 2 months ago about this very same thing, this is very very sad indeed. Condolences to our special forces and the afghans on the helicoptor and I pray to god there were no other scenerios going on here but it sure doesn't look right and too coincidental. I really don't know what to think at this point.

[Muzz]

The coming hollywood (http://www.mediaite.com/online/walt-disney-company-trademarks-the-phrase-seal-team-6/) flick will clear up all the facts for everyone.

[Lost Soul]

Killing off witnesses again? I guess the Whine House doesn't want anyone in Seal Team 6 to talk and tell the world that Bin Laden has been dead.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Apofay just heard same thing on channel 4 news here in UK......My thought exactly 40 oswalds shot down by a mysterious Afghan Ruby ....I think this smells bad and has da ja vous written all
over it.....certainly contains Bin Laden assasination hoax link if true....Still more sad deaths on both sides to keep our elites in power....Cheers Steve


http://www.channel4.com/news/nato-helicopter-shot-down-in-afghanistan

[Foggy]

From the first link posted by Apofay:

The operators from SEAL Team Six were flown by a crew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. That's according to one current and one former U.S. official. Both spoke on condition of anonymity because families are still being notified of the loss of their loved ones.

The Media is admitting this was a planned crash by what they are not reporting just like Oklahoma, 911, etc. Journalists are smart, they do their research - then forbidden to discuss/publish the facts if they want to keep their job.

Most Media is aware "Seal 6" is the wrong nomenclature. Repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

The actual name is Naval Special Warfare (NSW) Development Group of NSW DevGru.

Wasn’t the 160th Special OPS Aviation Regiment the same one the former CIA pilot flew for in the documentary from Ted Gunderson who mysteriously died July 31, 2011 from acquiring cancer?

The CIA Officer that was betrayed by the US Government…worthwhile watching as you will see a pattern with this last crash.

Now I know the real reason Garry Hart and Ross Perot were threatened and “neutralized” when they were Presidential Candidates from watching this video. It also confirmed the bullet holes in Ron Brown’s brain supposedly caused by plane crash during Clinton's war in the Balkans.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27034-The-CIA-officer-that-was-betrays-by-the-USA-government-reveals-all.&p=277753&viewfull=1#post277753

Have you ever heard a well trained soldier say they were afraid for their life after completing a mission? A Hollywood/Media trick to prepare you for their demise so you don’t think to ask questions.

The Pilots and crew that flew the “Enola Gay” were entitled to fear before, during and after their mission. There were numerous uncertainties including atmospheric conditions with the Atomic bomb.

Anyone hear them say they were afraid for their lives after returning from Japan? Why would you believe these soldiers are different that returned from Pakistan ??

Cidersomerset, thanks for your link. The report indicates NATO involved. Strange how they tell us "who done it" so quickly....just like 911. Hopefully more people will see the patterns.
Would be interesting -- how much the Taliban were paid for their piece of penmanship for admitting responsibility. Another murder by the elites just like happened with Pat Tilghman because he connected
the dots and was too much of a threat because of his popularity and creditability.

[stegosaur]

The US dumped the body into the sea, never offered definitive proof, people chant USA at a baseball game, the administration changes their narrative of the raid multiple times, no one questions why the greatest intelligence asset of all time wasn't questioned and now the team that took 'him' out just happens to be taken out by the Taliban. O yea this is after years of the US gov't saying that the Taliban doesn't posses surface to air missiles, only to have Wikileaks reveal that the Taliban does in fact have such missiles and o BTW they happen to be the same kind that the US and British military used to use.

Yea there is nothing fishy going on here, nothing at all. When is dancing with the stars on again? O wait the NFL lockout is over?!?. Did you hear the iPhone 5 is coming out soon.

[Selene]

It's good to see so many heads go up so quickly here. At least we've learned something since JFK. Only this time we're better organized, better prepared to respond and spread the word.

They were murdered. And not by the Taliban.

Sad that such good and honorable men have been sacrificed to such madness. The only good thing to come out of this - we may hope - is that their deaths will become a banner for consciousness held high. And that they will live on as heros in this war for truth.



Selene

[Mandala]

I agree with you guys, pretty damn fishy, also very convenient. The lesson here is get involved in any way with their lies and dirty work, you're next on the hit list. It is a way to keep your mouth permanently closed.

I'm so sorry this has happened.

[WhiteFeather]

Bin Laden Was Dead Over 9 Years Ago some say, dont believe the B/S Lies. And As for The Seal 6 Figurines, Guess What The Disney Corp. is a very big part of the dark illuminatti infrastructure as well. Know your enemy.

[jjjones]

Hi All, disgustingly sad. it really nauseates me. Condolences to their families and they are in a much better place. Put nothing passed the elite controllers . not surprised at all! I never did have complete faith in our country's leaders or ANY OTHER countries leaders. It started when in high school and learned about our electoral college and revolution 1776, opened up a whole new world for me. Every piece of harm and destruction in this world is orchestrated by the elitist greedy banksters, illuminatti, bohemian grove bunch, trilateral commission, federal reserve, imf & All of these secret organizations that everyone should know about. What one sows one reaps! Their Reaping can't come too soon. What a-shame the elites are so lost and deranged. Namaste, Peace and Love to you and throughout Creation. jjj

[ghostrider]

we can keep the president safe, but our best warriors ? don't we own the skies? been there since sept 2001? where the hell was the cobra attack choppers? where was the apache attack choppers? oh ehumm lets get congress to pass a law against RPG 'S THAT'LL FIX IT. to all the other navy seals out there, IT'S PAYBACK TIME......

[Tane Mahuta]

I found this interesting. 20 of the members of the team that "took out" Osama killed. Government trying to cover it's tracks? http://www.ktnv.com/news/national/127064378.html

Unless tipped off how would the Taliban know the 6 team was aboard for revenge?

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3097/6patch.jpg

Sorry folks, but this seems like another fake attack to arouse fear!
(my condolences go out to the families of the soldiers)

- If the Taliban are able to shoot down choppers. Why aren't more
choppers bought down?

- How did the Taliban know that this was a "speacial" flight?

nuff said

TM

[ThePythonicCow]

Sorry folks, but this seems like another fake attack to arouse fear!
I was figuring it was a real attack alright, by some of the b*st*rds on "our" side, to silence some potentially inconvenient witnesses to what went down in the claimed take down of Osama bin Laden.

The Taliban were just blamed, as the likely fall guy for this. Indeed, since some of the Taliban likely work for the self same b*st*rds, it might well have been the "Taliban" ;).

I can't quite tell from your post if you're agreeing with that, or seeing some other possibility.

[TWINCANS]

O!M!G! The single worst event in secret forces history is the single most obvious PROOF we have ever seen. Proof that OBL was already dead years ago as Bhutto said, before she was snuffed out. Proof that OBL was not found in that 'raid' theatre. And proof that the elite forces forces are still towing the party line even though they know the truth far better than we do - and getting themselves killed for it. Oh well, their karma I guess.

[Unified Serenity]

Good points all. Let's see what comes out in the news. I expect a lot of chest thumping, condolensces, and call for retribution.

[bitworm]

Were any of the people killed participants in the mission to take down OBL?

[giovonni]

From rense.com

The Execution Of SEAL Team Six
Penned by Ann Barnhardt
8-7-11
http://www.rense.com/general94/execc.htm

[Calz]

Alex Jones has been all over this the last couple days with multiple stories from multiple sources.

Just a short snippet (go to his site for the vids etc).


Seal Team 6 Crash was an Inside Job

This is reportedly the largest one day loss of troops in the 10 year war in Afghanistan and it just happens to be Seal Team 6. So now we are to buy that the men who took out OBL died in a helicopter crash months after pulling off the raid. Our inside sources told us months ago that all the Seals on the helicopter that crashed in the so called OBL raid died, yet the Obama admin says none were killed.

http://www.infowars.com/seal-team-6-crash-was-an-inside-job/

[Snoweagle]

Actually, this is great news for everybody and a big mistake by the power brokers in high places.
When other military specialists, including those in private armies, realise they are disposable no matter what their specialty is, then this will break the ranks and impact the chain of command. Nothing affects the human conscious worse than betrayal.

And they didn't leave anyone behind.

[Referee]

Insight from the event from Alex Jones.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKDeEXew1A&feature=feedu

Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKDeEXew1A&feature=feedu

[Muzz]

From Red Ice - Questions raised by the SEAL Team 6 deaths in Afghanistan (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16375)

[bitworm]

From Red Ice - Questions raised by the SEAL Team 6 deaths in Afghanistan (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16375)
Thanks for posting this. Provides a balanced take on what we know about it so far:


In the deadliest day of the almost decade-long war in Afghanistan roughly 30 members of the American Special Forces, most of which belonged to the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, were killed in a Taliban rocket attack.

A total of 38 people were killed in the crash, including 7 Afghans and an interpreter. However, it is being reported that none of the SEALs killed were part of the SEAL Team 6 operation that resulted in the execution of Osama bin Laden.

Due to this fact, I think that much of the jumping to conclusions on this issue is unwarranted at this stage.

It took minutes before the Internet was ablaze with chatter about the deaths of these American commandos. Much of the speculation surrounding this was because of the assumption that some of the SEALs were involved in the Osama bin Laden capture/kill charade.

Of course the conjecture was that these SEALs were killed to keep them quiet about their involvement in killing (or not killing) Osama bin Laden.
Without a single confirmation that even one of the team members was involved in the raid itself, I am not comfortable making this statement.

Then it goes on to raise some good questions about the circumstances surrounding the downed aircraft. Unfortunately, there will be many things about this that we will never know, until it gets declassified, or 30-40 yrs when some of those guys are on their deathbeds.

[PHARAOH]

Why all the condolences for these murdering liars? I don't get it. What can you expect when you live by the sword and make a deal wih the devil? DEATH!!! Here we talk about how terrible war is and how we need to stop the madness then feel sorry when murdreres get killled after they kill innocent men women and children around the world. I for one don't care. They got what they deserved.

[thunder24]

Why all the condolences for these murdering liars? I don't get it. What can you expect when you live by the sword and make a deal wih the devil? DEATH!!! Here we talk about how terrible war is and how we need to stop the madness then feel sorry when murdreres get killled after they kill innocent men women and children around the world. I for one don't care. They got what they deserved.

There are many instances where some of these elite soldiers have been manipulated and controlled, even programmed. Have you ever seen the Jason Borne movies? I liked them, but they also showed me the inner workings of some people within the governments and military.

Makes me wonder how much of Cameron Ewing's studies are used in the training of these so called "murderers".

If some one is raised up to be a killing machine, yet their whole life they are told nothing about how the killing maybe wrong, where is the line drawn that makes it their responsibility. I'm not saying that the ones in the chopper were innocent, but I'm not saying they weren't manipulated either.

Look at the cartoons we have here in the states, and the recent cartoons that were supposedly made for little kids about Jihad. No wonder we are able to get young boys and girls to become elite soldiers, they have been feed that non-sense their whole lives.

PEACE

[ulli]

These are my thoughts after reading that Rense link above:

In the Bahai writings there is a prophecy of a golden age, called The Most Great Peace, due to arrive during this century.
But before this is established there is a period which is called THe Lesser Peace, a period where a global government based on materialistic principles, will rule the entire planet.
Somewhere in the Bahai writings I discovered a statement where this regime was called The Oppressor, but can't seem to find the place where I first read it.
Anyway, throughout the eighties Bahais like myself were speculating as to who could this be? Communists? Most of us thought so, or feared so, since their regimes were known to use force while the just world we were dreaming of was one of justice and even mercy.
But then communism fell, and the neocons were gaining power...
So now speculation shifted. I still go by Bahai prophecies as they have been more precise than many of the others I explored, certainly easier to understand than Nostradamus who can be interpreted in many different ways, or Bible prophecies which are also too enigmatic and possibly wrong interpretations or even falsifications....and no way do I go by prophecies that just preach doom and gloom.

Civilization will continue, but it will shift from perversion to moral cleanliness, from self- centered thinking to community thinking, from corruption to justice, from top down hierarchy to individual sovereignty...built from the grassroots up.
That's the way it's going to be.

We need to hold this vision with confidence and trust, and wipe the idea of millions of people dying in brutal death camps right off the slate.

By holding that thought that it will all resolve itself peacefully. Not as naive wishful thinking, but with the full knowledge of the powers latent within us all.

[Apofay]

Looks like the "taliban" that shot down the helicopter have now been killed...well I guess that ties up any lose ends now doesn't it.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghan-helicopter-20110811,0,5466064.story

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Apofay....As David Icke would say.............Problem -- Re-actiom -- solution ....Its all so convenient !!!!

[Lord Sidious]

Bhutto said for years that Bin Laden was already dead, and of coarse she was killed not that long ago. It's rather convenient that there is no one who can come forward from team 6 who was there. Oh, they may drag someone out who says they were there, but basically this looks like a false flag event meant to tie up loose ends. Bin Laden had nothing to do with the World Trade center 9/11 incident. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with it either. Interestingly, they claimed most of the highjackers were from Saudi Arabia, but did we go after the Saudi's? Nope, of coarse we didn't, they are good friends of the Bush's.

So, we get a new boogy man "War on Terror" that has no exact country to target, but of coarse we go after Iraq. There's an interesting oil pipeline to deal with there as well as opening up profits for the 4 big oil companies Hussein threw out years before. There's lucrative secondary contracts to run the war for big corporations. They waste tons of money burning vehicles with broken oil pumps, computers that were fine, but not exactly what they ordered, just tons of waste, and the tales of stolen antiquities and possible ancient alien artifacts. Let's not forget the larger grabs for power and stripping of constitutional rights because as some would say, "I don't mind these searches of my body if it keeps us safe" attitude. The problem is, we are NOT safer. We have only lost more privacy and learned to be treated like criminals and sexually harrassed by knuckle dragging TSA agents some with criminal records of their own.

The economy is imploding, we have crazy mob attacks here in America, disasters beyond imagining worldwide, and yet let's start more wars, have the Fed bail out foreign banks and all while American's worry about the latest reality show or sporting event. Rome is burning and I hear the symphony tuning their instruments.

Buckle up it's only going to get more interesting. I think Confusious would have enjoyed being alive today.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeYyHt3JZ4

[Maia Gabrial]

Whitefeather,
I was going to say something similar to what you just did. Disney will help mislead and cover it all up....

[daledo]

Pentagon releases list of 30 service members killed in Afghanistan
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/127556623.html

After an unusual delay, the Pentagon released the names today of the 30 American servicemen killed Saturday when their Chinook helicopter was apparently hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed in Afghanistan.

It was the deadliest attack on U.S. forces in the decade-long war in the country.

Twenty-five of the Americans killed were special operations forces, and five were Army aircrew members, the Pentagon said. Seven Afghan commandos and an Afghan interpreter also were killed. Also killed was Maui resident Kraig Vickers, a Navy explosives expert.

The release of names, ranks, ages, hometowns and units of those who die or are killed in combat zones is standard practice by the Pentagon.

By law, no casualty information on deceased military may be released to the media or the general public until 24 hours after notifying next of kin. However, many of the deceased service members' families spoke to media outlets about their losses shortly after the crash.

According to the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta decided to identify the servicemen after considering security concerns raised by U.S. Special Operations Command.

"Secretary Panetta never intended not to release the names," the story quoted Pentagon spokesman Marine Corps Col. Dave Lapan as saying. "Due to the unique circumstances surrounding the incident — including the high number of special operations forces who were killed — the secretary of defense decided to honor requests by senior commanders for additional time to fully review the possible implications of the release for the victims and their families."

Panetta all along intended to release the names of those killed, Lapan said. "It was incumbent upon others to convince him otherwise, and that didn't happen," he said.

Today, the Pentagon released the following casualty information:

>> Navy sailors assigned to an East Coast-based Naval Special Warfare unit who were killed:

Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.,

Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J. Langlais, 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.,

Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A. Ratzlaff, 34, of Green Forest, Ark.,

Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Senior Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Kraig M. Vickers 36, of Kokomo, Hawaii,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Brian R. Bill, 31, of Stamford, Conn.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) John W. Faas, 31, of Minneapolis, Minn.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Kevin A. Houston, 35, of West Hyannisport, Mass.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Matthew D. Mason, 37, of Kansas City, Mo.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Stephen M. Mills, 35, of Fort Worth, Texas,

Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist/Diver) Nicholas H. Null, 30, of Washington, W.Va.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Robert J. Reeves, 32, of Shreveport, La.,

Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Heath M. Robinson, 34, of Detroit, Mich.,

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Darrik C. Benson, 28, of Angwin, Calif.

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Parachutist) Christopher G. Campbell, 36, of Jacksonville, N.C.,

Information Systems Technician Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Jared W. Day, 28, of Taylorsville, Utah,

Master-at-Arms Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist) John Douangdara, 26, of South Sioux City, Neb.,

Cryptologist Technician (Collection) Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist) Michael J. Strange, 25, of Philadelphia, Pa.,

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist) Jon T. Tumilson, 35, of Rockford, Iowa,

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Aaron C. Vaughn, 30, of Stuart, Fla., and

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jason R. Workman, 32, of Blanding, Utah.



>> The following sailors assigned to a West Coast-based Naval Special Warfare unit were killed:

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jesse D. Pittman, 27, of Ukiah, Calif., and

Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 2nd Class (SEAL) Nicholas P. Spehar, 24, of Saint Paul, Minn.



>> The Army soldiers killed were:

Chief Warrant Officer David R. Carter, 47, of Centennial, Colo. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), Aurora, Colo.;

Chief Warrant Officer Bryan J. Nichols, 31, of Hays, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.;

Sgt. Patrick D. Hamburger, 30, of Lincoln, Neb. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), Grand Island, Neb.;

Sgt. Alexander J. Bennett, 24, of Tacoma, Wash. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.; and

Spc. Spencer C. Duncan, 21, of Olathe, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New Century, Kan.



>> The Air Force airmen killed were:

Tech. Sgt. John W. Brown, 33, of Tallahassee, Fla.;

Staff Sgt. Andrew W. Harvell, 26, of Long Beach, Calif.; and

Tech. Sgt. Daniel L. Zerbe, 28, of York, Pa.

All three airmen were assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Pope Field, N.C.

[Maia Gabrial]

Good job, daledo. I guess the pentagon has been reading many of the comments on forums, discovering that there's alot of skepticism over this after the lie about OBL....

[Tane Mahuta]

Good Research delado, my condolences go out to all the families affected!

TM

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Sorry folks, but this seems like another fake attack to arouse fear!

I can't quite tell from your post if you're agreeing with that, or seeing some other possibility.

There are possibly many possiblities....which I beleive will come to light eventually.

TM