Science finds an anti-proton ring around the Earth

[Carmody]

We speak on earth having a 'shield' around it, that keeps souls in the local vicinity.

Prove it!....You say?

OK.

Also, if you read the question of lithium thread, you will find information about the philosopher's stone, and in the archeology area, you will find similar information on the stone, regarding how it is formed naturally.

The point is that the stone gives access to astral realms. And that the stone is best made from 'morning dew'. That 'photochemical' means can be used to make the stone. Naturally, in big salt flats, bottoms of the oceans as the materials float and wander down to the bottom, and go through IMMENSE pressure changes.

Point being that when the dawn crests the horizon, this is considered the point at which the soul enters the body, at birth. For me, when into doing heavy OBE's, I come into my body, at the same time, when the true dawn crests the horizon, at my given body location, overcast or sunny, all the same. Also that Lucifer is the 'angel of the dawn', the light bringer, the great liar, etc. In astrology this dawn thing, in the morning, is called the 'ascendant'. It is known as the 'rose colored glasses' that one wears when incarnated and on this planet. It is a two way filter. Sure sounds like the ego, doesn't it?

When we are hypnotized, this ego thing is sublimated and the true being comes forth. See the works of Dolores Cannon and Dr. Micheal Newton, regarding regression hypnotism and other lives, worlds and dimensions that we are connected to.

FYI, anti-protons are connected to an expression, in science, of anti-matter. Which, in simple terms, is 'not congruent' to this dimensional expression we call 'the here and now'.

Now some evidence appears for what might be termed a real and measured 'dimensional differential' that surrounds the earth:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-antiproton-belt-earth.html

Researchers prove existence of anti-proton radiation belt around Earth

Italian researchers using data from the satellite PAMELA have proven that theories showing there ought to be a ring of antiprotons encircling the Earth due to cosmic rays colliding with nuclei in the upper atmosphere are correct. Piergiorgio Picozza from the University of Rome, Tor Vergata, and a host of colleagues have published the results of their findings in arXiv.


Physicists have theorized that the constant stream of cosmic rays (generally comprised of protons, electrons and helium nuclei) generated by the sun and other little understand sources must produce a shower of sorts of smaller particles when they collide with other nuclei in the Earth’s upper atmosphere and break apart. Some of those smaller particles have been assumed to be antiprotons, many of which would be annihilated when colliding with particles of ordinary matter. Those particles that don’t collide with ordinary matter however, should remain in the atmosphere, forming a belt, called the Van Allen radiation belt, around the planet. It’s this belt that the researchers set out to prove existed, which would in turn prove the whole theory to be correct.

Because of the earth’s magnetic field, physicists suggest there actually exist two such radiation belts covering the planet, the outer and inner. The outer belt should be comprised of lighter particles such as positrons, while the inner belt would consist of much larger particles, such as antiprotons because the force of gravity would be able to hold them in.

To test the theory, the researchers turned to the Payload for Antimatter Matter Exploration and Light-nuclei Astrophysics (PAMELA) Russian made satellite, which has a cosmic ray detector onboard and regularly passes through a particularly dense section of the Van Allen belt called the South Atlantic Anomaly.

Over a period of 850 days, between July 2006 and December 2008, sensors onboard PAMELA detected 28 antiprotons, which the team says, is about three times more than would be found from a random sample of the solar wind, and constitutes the most abundant source of antiprotons ever seen near the Earth.

Besides proving the Van Allen radiation belt theory correct, the discovery also opens the door to other possibilities, such as using the discovered antiprotons for man-made purposes, such as one day perhaps serving as fuel for rockets.

More information: http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.4882

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Due to it's importance in connecting the dots, some of this thread's opening post will be posted in ulli's Astrology thread, and will be wholly inserted into the 'question of lithium' thread.

The reason I have to do this all the time, is that people want to know 'what is what' and they have to know that things are all connected to one another. If they want to see this system of connection and find the bits that help them make it to an understanding, I must do this. It is not a form of spamming, it is necessary.

When one does research based on the idea of isolated phenomena and isolated research, then they miss the point of trying to figure it all out, they throw out key points of evolution in understanding, before they even begin. In the end, everything is connected to everything so you can't get there by experimenting and drawing all conclusions in abstentia of all other data.

This is also tied to the idea of the sciences being controlled by Freemason types and secret societies that compartmentalized science from the get go. The same groups are also responsible for making science a 'new start' and thus purposely throwing out the prior 6000+ years of work creating their own dark ages through a contrived system of the creation of ignorance.

[ThePythonicCow]

Over a period of 850 days, between July 2006 and December 2008, sensors onboard PAMELA detected 28 antiprotons,
That does not sound like an "anti-matter ring", anymore than I would call Tokyo a city of giraffes, not people. Had it been a real anti-matter ring, that satellite would have exploded in massive burst of energy, the first time it entered.

Rather it sounds like an increase (1000 or 10,000 times, from the link) in the flux (density) of antiprotons. Still almost all (to many decimal places) particles are matter, not anti-matter.

Am I missing something?

[Carmody]

I had to re-boot my PC. The power at my house fluctuated three times in a row and shut my PC down, just as I posted that.

Ahem.


Anyway, to continue...

What I did not say, was that to my way of thinking, anti matter is exactly that. Not 'congruent' to or aligned with this reality. It is not in perfect alignment to this space or reality. Like magnetism, electricity, etc. Polarization, in complex multiple axis, in order to be present and connective in this space we call this dimension. Other energies are not, is the guess and the evidence is pointing to that, in all ways, within the scope of the data sets.

in the same way that scalar energies are not recognized by most of science as of yet, the same logical analysis applies. Ie, that two or more large scalar longitudinal oscillating 2d fields are integrating. At their meeting point they form a dual vortex. In and out. The vectoral resultant is this dimension, this reality and this time/space, matter, elements, chemistry, electrical aspects. gravitation, and so on.

An anti-matter proton, or anti-proton exists outside of our space and recognition as well. It is not of this world. Thus they are only detected. In other studies...they have to be forced into existence, in a bubble.

There is a differential in the frame or space of reality that surrounds this globe or earth. It is scalar, other dimensional in highest or center of main energies....but barely detected in the known sciences, or 'this space'.

Recall it is a 'spiritual' barrier, in the fields of alternate research. So the effect of it's presence, like spirits, is barely detectable.

This is all hypothesis, of course.

It is quite interesting that the science that could bring it into formation in the grander connective sense...has now been tossed into the pile.

The satellite is 'detecting the signature of' anti-protons, it is not capturing actual ones.

In the same way that science says that 'one cubic meter of empty space' contains enough energy to boil the earth's oceans...but we have no access to it, this matter of detecting a band of anti-protons around the earth is.....well....

It may be indicative of a dimensional differential layer of some sort. IMO, it does more than 'may indicate'. Conversely...it does not PROVE it to me, conclusively, not by a long shot.

But I will explore further, wearing it as part of a costume of facts (try it on for size, strut around the room wearing it, etc)...and see what comes out of it.

[ThePythonicCow]

I suspect a few typos in your latest post, Carmody.

However I also suspect that our viewpoints differ sufficiently on this topic that fixing the typos would not reduce my clue deprivation noticeably :) :cow: :).

Carry on. Never mind me.

(My view of anti-matter is along the lines explained by Paul LaViolette -- which is quite a different view.)

(Ah - I see you've been editing on the typos as I was complaining of them. Good.)

[Carmody]

Over a period of 850 days, between July 2006 and December 2008, sensors onboard PAMELA detected 28 antiprotons,
That does not sound like an "anti-matter ring", anymore than I would call Tokyo a city of giraffes, not people. Had it been a real anti-matter ring, that satellite would have exploded in massive burst of energy, the first time it entered.

Rather it sounds like an increase (1000 or 10,000 times, from the link) in the flux (density) of antiprotons. Still almost all (to many decimal places) particles are matter, not anti-matter.

Am I missing something?

My bad, Paul. just realized that I titled the thread wrongly. That dang mercury retrograde.

I meant to call it anti-proton ring around the earth.. I tried to change it ---but no go.

Can you change that for me?

[Hervé]

I find that calling it a ring or a belt is also misleading as being derived from a 2D description.

An enveloping layer would be more accurate as it not only prevents beings from getting out but also the cavalry from getting in...

[ThePythonicCow]

I have changed the title from mentioning "anti-matter" to "anti-proton".

(Though the distance between my views and this thread remain the same ... anti-protons being just one form of anti-matter ;).)

Carry on.

[Carmody]

I find that calling it a ring or a belt is also misleading as being derived from a 2D description.

An enveloping layer would be more accurate as it not only prevents beings from getting out but also the cavalry from getting in...

Yes, that thought did not escape my attention. But fences can also keep the baddies out, or keep them in as well. So, who knows. Ganders and Gooses-goodness and abuses. etc.

I can travel down electrical lines in OBE or astral form. I've no idea how many others can do this. I was also told by someone who took a look at me (in 2003) that I was capable of escaping or passing through the earths shield. The two points may be related.

[Carmody]

Now, like the rainbow of light that spreads from the prism when illuminated, this zone of 'multiple energies'... this rolling band of lensed and shifted energies called the edge of dawn, the window or door in and out of this place could be considered to be the edge of the rolling moving dawn light. Note the prominence of it in the vast majority of ancient religions and secret societies.

Is the power of entry or exit, the revolving door, is that the dawn? Biblically speaking...(there are obviously other interpretations) Lucifer's controlled doorway/access and effect?

[Hervé]

I find that calling it a ring or a belt is also misleading as being derived from a 2D description.

An enveloping layer would be more accurate as it not only prevents beings from getting out but also the cavalry from getting in...

Yes, that thought did not escape my attention. But fences can also keep the baddies out, or keep them in as well. So, who knows. Ganders and Gooses-goodness and abuses. etc.



Corollaries indeed!


I can travel down electrical lines in OBE or astral form. I've no idea how many others can do this. I was also told by someone who took a look at me (in 2003) that I was capable of escaping or passing through the earths shield. The two points may be related.

I too would think that's the case for you. Considering the advice given to Castaneda to stay away from street lights and power lines or Fulcanelli's advice to find a spot free of EM fog.

There you are now: way-shower on how to achieve that feat!

You must trigger their alarm bells and scramble dispatch teams every time you go out for a stroll... their surveillance grid disturbed to a max...:crazy_pilot:

[Chuck]

Now, like the rainbow of light that spreads from the prism when illuminated, this zone of 'multiple energies'... this rolling band of lensed and shifted energies called the edge of dawn, the window or door in and out of this place could be considered to be the edge of the rolling moving dawn light. Note the prominence of it in the vast majority of ancient religions and secret societies.

Is the power of entry or exit, the revolving door, is that the dawn? Biblically speaking...(there are obviously other interpretations) Lucifer's controlled doorway/access and effect?

Good information Carmody!

So now... does the increase in cosmic energy bombarding our solar system and earth (see http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/40676 and http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html ) create a window... a dawn... for entry and exit? In other words, besides annihilating the heliosphere and magnetosphere the cosmic tidal wave of energetic particles nulls out this antiproton shield as well. Thus allowing the animals (you and me) out of the zoo?!

[Chuck]

lol ... just a little frisky in my last post. Not annihilating the heliosphere and magnetosphere... yet... but playing havoc with them. Also see work done by Alexey Dmitriev, a russian scientist who has studied this interstellar galactic energy for many years. http://tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html and http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_solarstorm03.htm
sorry... back to topic...

[Njord]

Pretty cool, unless it has been posted already.

"A thin band of antimatter particles called antiprotons enveloping the Earth has been spotted for the first time."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14405122


So does this mean I get to have my very own Millennium Falcon in the near future? :eyebrows:

The Astrophysical Journal (http://iopscience.iop.org/2041-8205/737/2/L29/)
Here's also some more of the technical details for those interested :

[Flash]

already posted by Carmody earlier on today.

May be this thread should be merged into the other one.

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm changing my comment because it really didn't make sense in this thread. What the heck was I thinking...? :confused:

[ThePythonicCow]

Pretty cool, unless it has been posted already.
Carmody posted it already. I just merged the two threads.


already posted by Carmody earlier on today.

May be this thread should be merged into the other one.

Good catch. Merge done. Thanks.

[Carmody]

To sort of reiterate with different information:

I just watched David Wilcock's 2 hour introduction to his new book.

He said something that maybe relevant here.

He mentioned a study done in Japan where a room was made to be totally dark. No radiative input or emissions in the room, on all known measurable wavelengths.

They had placed a sign or poster with some given images or characters on it, and had some accomplished remote viewers 'enter' the room, psychically.

When these people said they were remote viewing the room, the photon count of the room, from the one given incursion, would jump by 15,000 photons of light.

And it may be that this 'nearly' other-dimensional or scalar body has a component that 'leaks' into this one, and leaves a photonic residual or pass-through of energies, in the form of a residual of photonic light.

What I'm saying, with the thread, is that this 'residual' of a dimensional differential that surrounds the earth in a ring, may have anit-proton residuals. The signature of it is the anti-protons.

[PurpleLama]

What we are, as a consciousness, is discreet yet coherent light. The light body sheds photons like the human body sheds skin cells, it seems. I wonder how visible 15000 photons would be.
I think the anti proton belt might be corelative to the quarantine of the planet. Speaking of Wilcock, I disagree with him that the quarantine has been lifted. The evidence says we don't have Et popping up in our front yards and knocking on the literal, physical door. Also, he says it's positive Et that's in contact with chinese govt, and I really, really am certain that any positive Et absolutely would not be in contact with any earthly governmental institutions, secular or religious. The positive are only interested in personal contact, from what I understand.

[Carmody]

http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2824/28245501.jpg

Here, above.. is an 'idealization', a visualization of said anti-proton ring. With said article, of course.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128245.500-antiproton-ring-found-around-earth.html


The most interesting part, is that the recognition of said anti-proton DETECTION, is coming from the point where we have the 'southern Atlantic anomaly'. Detection of the anti-protons has given to the idea that this is the detection of an anti-matter ring.

Which is where this is all coming from, the idea of an anti-matter ring.

Could it be that all of space is filled with anti-protons, and this is coming through in this south Atlantic anomaly area? This the space outside of this area is more anti matter than matter, but comes out of the vacuum of space as a detection of anti-protons, and this detector is simply showing what is prevalent in the reaches of space? recall that we placed an anti-proton detector in the vicinity and picked it up (detected) at this Van Allen belt weak point, but ---what about the rest of 'space'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/ROSAT_SAA.gif

The rings sit like 'so', positionally speaking, around the earth.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/South_Atlantic_Anomaly.svg/500px-South_Atlantic_Anomaly.svg.png

The South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) refers to the area where the Earth's inner Van Allen radiation belt comes closest to the Earth's surface. This leads to an increased flux of energetic particles in this region and exposes orbiting satellites to higher than usual levels of radiation. The effect is caused by the non-concentricity of the Earth and its magnetic dipole, and the SAA is the near-Earth region where the Earth's magnetic field is weakest.


It is apparently getting bigger every year, and according to the wiki, may cover half the southern hemisphere in 2240, at the rate it is changing right now. Which is minor, but evident.


it is also important to understand that the ley line vortex grid puts a strong 'corner' or ley line crossing point, for many of the vibrationally derived geometric shapes of the earths vibrating aetheric frequencies or fields, at this exact point on the globe (where the dot is on the first image and in the center point of the south Atlantic anomaly in the supplied image). The tilt of the earth seems to be accentuating this one point, due to field development et, of the Van Allen belt. That the earth is in an electric bubble that is oscillating and is tied to the sun's fields..and with the tilt, this is one of the 'points' of greatest difference in pressures in this system, this South Atlantic anomaly.


Now, this heightened anti-proton situation could be seen as a reflection, like the spray or rainbow, a bending, like light through a prism. Anomalous or pressure ripples from a sharp change in value. Regarding the Dawn's light, the edge itself...This is what I say seems to be happening with respect to how souls enter and leave this place, as tied to the idea of the edge of the dawn's light. The ascendant in astrology -the dawn's light/edge, which is known as the rose colored glasses we each bear, that we filter life through, in both directions.

Which is also represented esoterically in the idea of the body being an avatar. The integration between the soul and the avatar's autonomous functions, thus the doorway or rose colored glasses of life in an avatar in a 3d universe. The door between the mechanics of the system and the higher functions--the reptilian hindbrain.

Then we say that Lucifer was cast down.

From the wiki on Lucifer:

Traditionally, Lucifer (English pronunciation: /ˈluːsɪfər, ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to the devil before being cast from heaven, although this is not the original meaning of the term. In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, which heralds daylight. For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day Star", and rarely "Lucifer".

Use of the name "Lucifer" for the devil stems from a particular interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that does not speak of any fallen angel but of the defeat of a particular Babylonian King, to whom it gives a title that refers to what in English is called the Day Star or Morning Star (in Latin, lucifer).[2] In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the devil. It is only in post-New Testament times that the Latin word Lucifer was used as a name for the devil, both in religious writing and in fiction, especially when referring to him prior to his fall from Heaven.

There is great prominence of Lucifer in Judaic astrology and also in Freemason lore and practice and it is encoded as a keystone component into Rosalyn chapel, for example.

This, specifically through the aspects of the dawn light, the rising sun, etc. not the sun they speak of, they never did it never was...it was and is the rising star, Venus, Lucifer, the angel of the dawn.

However, I'm not speaking with regard to the idea of religious connotation and what you learned or where indoctrinated with as a child. I don't invoke that surreal reaction in people. This is just logical discourse on a facet of the complexities of this issue, is all. I'm not interested in people's emotional tirades about bibles and thumping, that is not the subject. Not my point. Thank you. :) Recall that the whole thing is an allegorical charade of some sort and this 'bible thing' is not exempt from the whole.

This is all connected and important as the soul level integration with 3d reality has connective tissue or connections in the direct sense of being a doorway or lever of informational transfer, with every bit of so called matter that exist in 'this place'.

To clarify, the radiation belts are 'radiation' ...radiation is 'ionic' ...ionic is 'charged' or polarized electron flow. excess electrons. In plasma form. Plasma is quantum (free electrons, etc).

'Quantum' ....is free from matter aggregate effects. It is essentially 'multidimensional/interdimensional', and quantum effects can happen more freely and easily in such plasma or ionic charge zones. Many to MOST or even all, in the final analysis, 'over unity' devices are designed and made in this fashion or sense. This is their prime and singular operating point.

The entire point of the 'question of lithium' thread is about this specific aspect (spoken of here in this thread) and it's connection to bridging the gap between this 'reality' and the next.

[Carmody]

If we look at the psychic scans of the moon, by the psychic Ingo Swann, in his book..is that the moon is occupied by SOMEONE who is using human avatars as slave labour or dumb labour. ie, something akin to constructed beasts.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18023776/Penetration-The-Question-of-Extraterrestrial-and-Human-Telepathy-by-Ingo-Swann-text-format

"Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy"

Then we have someone who says that they went to the Mars base, Henry Deacon. We find he won't speak on what is going on at mars. He basically goes into breakdown. Horrors in underground bases. Humans as meat puppets and avatars, possibly. Possibly soulless machines, worker drones. Programmed organic machines.

This upsets me to some degree, but likely not as much as others might be upset, for I realize and am fully consciously aware of my separateness from my avatar. That the beast of the avatar is not controlling my existence or blending in and out of this place as much as most 'people' who are still deeply tied to their physicality, as dimensional doorways go.

If you think of the earth having a bubble, or shield, then you may have the race of beings running this show as occupants of the aetheric bubble and separation hardware, the incredibly anomalous and thoroughly, on all levels of astronomy and celestial mechanics..the impossible to exist as it is: earth moon.

The minimal field or shape of an oscillating field (scalar-dimensional in this case) that can be created in a spherical solid....that relates to the lattice structure or geometric aspect of 'solids'/'atoms', or vibrations, vortexes that arrange themselves according to their organizing forces and oscillations (electrical 'skin effect' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect) is a symptom/evidence of such)....the minimal shape..is the four sided pyramid, made up of 3-sided triangles. This, due to the rotating fields added in. The pattern would automatically emerge. An Up-down multi dimensional vibration pressure zone, a duality of flow. Recall that matter is vectoral in result or intrusion into this space, and the origins are from rotation. this, according to Maxwell's full theorem. Thus:

http://www.n01a.org/noya-book/metaphysics_revelations_files/image011.jpg

The base is the Merkaba, the duality, the red the blue and moment of now, the violet. All that....again.

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The rest of this website (I only found it now) brings great food for thought, and upon my VERY short look (I only zoomed/scrolled through it to find this image, which I found by Google image search) looks very promising. I'd read it, if I were you, unless you know it already. the connective tissue aspect, for this forum, is interesting. If one is panicking about today's world, it might help to some degree.

http://www.n01a.org/noya-book/metaphysics_revelations.htm
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So we have this rotating atheric change up zone, called the moon, a non-visible rotating dimensional (dark matter) zone around the earth. If one, for example, enters the area, as a multi-dimensional being, if one enters the zone of the earth, inside the moon's spin zone, they'd be entering an area of change or shift, in the frequency and vibration sense, and quite likely a rotating energy as well. like a well, or a whirlpool. controlled or effected into existence by the moon.

In astrology, we have the dragon's head and the dragon's tail, the point where we come in to learn our lessons in this life and the doorway of our leaving. These two tell the tale of our reason for coming in and where we come from and then the doorway we leave and are headed to. s a continual run of life lessons, but pertaining to this one and how ti sits in the hierarchy of those flowing life lessons.

Recall that the original bible lore and writings were CHOCK FULL of reincarnation references, but all were removed.

The question for you, is this in the tradition of Micheal Newton's books, where he says that we are here at a giant multi-dimensional school to learn lessons in a patterned and controlled system that is flowing through 3d time but is orchestrated ...and we come here blanked out, so we can learn these things clean and clear with surprises and real lessons with real reactions....or is it as Dolores Cannon says that this has been corrupted and that we need help?

Or is it both?

From what we see above as to the origins of the word Lucifer, we see it is connected to the defeat of a Babylonian king. Hhmmm...Babylonians, Sumerians, fiat currencies, gold, silver, slavery, rulership by divine right, secret societies, religion, ruling castes, alchemy, science, astrology...all from the same place..... hhhmm...

Some say that they rule the USA right now, and that they went back into Iraq to stop what is in the sands -----from getting out.

I just happened to be listening to this at the same time:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-DAOMG8HFs

[seko]

what is in the sands in Iraq Carmondy????

it´s like reading a book hihi. thanks for your info.