Gravity in space is zero? Wrong.

[<8>]

Hi guys..
Are mainstream Science Wrong?
Well i think most of there theories are wrong. I have started to study the, Electric Universe theory. (And i like it so far) "Why" Well they dont have to make up black hole theories. And now we got the new Mechanical Universe/quantum mechanics.

MECHANICAL / MECHANICS!!

I am sorry. This words alone needs this clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfM-frIWlQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfM-frIWlQ

I was listening on the coast to coast radio about gravity. And there was a caller who askt why there are no gravity in water (or less)
Long story short, i found this here about gravity. Is it true? I dont know! But i am sure gonna keep on study this. I love it.

Everyone knows that the gravity in outer space is zero. Everyone is wrong. Gravity in space is not zero, it can actually be fairly strong. Suppose you climbed to the top of a ladder that's about 300 miles tall. You would be up in the vacuum of space, but you would not be weightless at all. You'd only weigh about fifteen percent less than you do on the ground. While 300 miles out in space, a 115lb person would weigh about 100lb. Yet a spacecraft can orbit 'weightlessly' at the height of your ladder! While you're up there, you might see the Space Shuttle zip right by you. The people inside it would seem as weightless as always. Yet on your tall ladder, you'd feel nearly normal weight. What's going on?


The reason that the shuttle astronauts act weightless is that they're inside a container which is FALLING! If the shuttle were to sit unmoving on top of your ladder (it's a strong ladder,) the shuttle would no longer be falling, and its occupants would feel nearly normal weight. And if you were to leap from your ladder, you would feel just as weightless as an astronaut (at least you'd feel weightless until you hit the ground!)


So, if the orbiting shuttle is really falling, why doesn't it hit the earth? It's because the shuttle is not only falling down, it is moving very fast sideways as it falls, so it falls in a curve. It moves so fast that the curved path of its fall is the same as the curve of the earth, so the Shuttle falls and falls and never comes down. Gravity strongly affects the astronauts in a spacecraft: the Earth is strongly pulling on them so they fall towards it. But they are moving sideways so fast that they continually miss the Earth. This process is called "orbiting," and the proper word for the seeming lack of gravity is called "Free Fall." You shouldn't say that astronauts are "weightless," because if you do, then anyone and anything that is falling would also be "weightless." When you jump out of an airplane, do you become weightless? And if you drop a book, does gravity stop affecting it; should you say it becomes weightless? If so, then why does it fall? If "weight" is the force which pulls objects towards the Earth, then this force is still there even when objects fall.


So, to experience GENUINE free fall just like the astronauts, simply jump into the air! Better yet, jump off a diving board at the pool, or bounce on a trampoline, or go skydiving. Bungee-jumpers know what the astronauts experience.



Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards.

[Omni connexae!]

Hey <8>,

It seems to me that you've started looking into this theory, and think you have sufficient reason to believe most of "mainstream science is wrong" due to what this new theory suggests (prehaps you have other reasons too), without looking into the mainstream scientific theory as diligently as you have the alternetive theory.

Considering this, I would whole hartidly suggest you study and come to grasps with the concepts of epistemology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology) before going any further, as it will help with your quest for understanding immensely. Epistemology is basically the study of knowledge. (eg. What is knowledge? How is knowledge acquired? How do we know what we know?)

I'm happy to talk some more about the theory in question, but think it would be beneficial if you had an understanding of epistemology first, which I'm also happy to discuss with you if you like.

-OmniC

[1159]

We only sense gravity as a force that pulls us towards the earth because at ground level it's stronger than the centrifugal force that throws us off the earth due to its spin. Of course there are gravitational effects in space, according to our proximity to other bodies and also wether we are in a gravitational node or not. To say that space is gravity-less is a simplicitic school room approach and only the beginning of a complex subject.

[<8>]

Hi Omni...

Epistemology.

What is knowledge?
How is knowledge acquired?
How do we know what we know?

Well as a student of history, i know most of the history are wrong. Throughout the history there have been wars, That the winners write the war histories should not be the case
For war is a tragedy a human disgrace
And the losers in war see their Country destoyed
And the war history never written by the losing side.

mainstream Science get founded by the governments around the world, about what they think is the right and wrong to study. mainstream Science are more like a dogma then sciense if you look in to it.
So what most of us know, is what the governments whant us to know.

But this thread are more about the "Gravity" Soo feel free to talk about what you think about that..thanks..:)

[<8>]

thanks so much 1159..

you say it is a school room approach.

Please feel free to educate us..:)

[araucaria]

This is perfectly understood by mainstream science and is regularly used in the "vomit comet", an ordinary Boeing that engages in parabolic flight - sudden up and downs - when it dives you experience weightlessness, and when it climbs, you experience mutliple g forces as when a rocket takes off.

Mainstream scientists get a lot of stuff right a lot of the time ;)

[RMorgan]

"Mainstream" science knows, and teaches, for a long time, that there IS gravity in space.

"Everyone knows that the gravity in outer space is zero" Where did you learn that?

I don´t know where you might have learned that there´s not gravity in space, actually, since it´s 100% agreed by the "mainstream science" that gravity is working everywhere.


"There is gravity everywhere. It gives shape to the orbits of the planets, the solar system, and even galaxies. Gravity from the Sun reaches throughout the solar system and beyond, keeping the planets in their orbits. Gravity from Earth keeps the Moon and human-made satellites in orbit.

It is true that gravity decreases with distance, so it is possible to be far away from a planet or star and feel less gravity. But that doesn't account for the weightless feeling that astronauts experience in space. The reason that astronauts feel weightless actually has to do with their position compared to their spaceship. We feel weight on Earth because gravity is pulling us down, while the floor or ground stop us from falling. We are pressed against it. Any ship in orbit around the Earth is falling slowly to Earth. Since the ship and the astronauts are falling at the same speed, the astronauts don't press against anything, so they feel weightless."

"Gravity is a very important force. Every object in space exerts a gravitational pull on every other, and so gravity influences the paths taken by everything traveling through space. It is the glue that holds together entire galaxies. It keeps planets in orbit. It makes it possible to use human-made satellites and to go to and return from the Moon. It makes planets habitable by trapping gasses and liquids in an atmosphere. It can also cause life-destroying asteroids to crash into planets."

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/space-environment/1-is-there-gravity-in-space.html

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/space-environment/zoom-grav.html

Ps: Do a google search on "gravity in space", and you´ll get a lot of results. These are the two first links I´ve got. This is what I´ve learned from school, actually.

[<8>]

Thanks Morgan..

Soo Gravity works in real time then, like faster then light to make sure the littel earth dont fly out in to space?

[RMorgan]

You´re welcome, my friend.

Yes...and No.

Gravity isn´t an entity, like light, planets or stars. Gravity is a force, so gravity itself can´t be measured without using a body affected by it as a reference. It´s incorrect to say that gravity can or can´t go on any speed, because such rules simply can´t be applied to it.

The only entity traveling on the speed of light, on space, is light itself and its derivative particles. If any body starts traveling on the speed of light, the G forces applied to it would be devastating.

Also, there´s no such thing as faster than the speed of light.

Gravity is working all the time, in real time, on every body and particle in space. The bigger the body, the bigger and stronger is its gravitational field.

By the way, gravity in space can be so strong sometimes, that even light can´t escape it (Black Holes).