Is Everything We Know About The Universe Wrong

[The One]

This video goes into dark matter in great detail and it made me realise we know nothing about our universe

There’s something very odd going on in space – something that shouldn’t be possible. It is as though vast swathes of the universe are being hoovered up by a vast and unseen celestial vacuum cleaner. Sasha Kaslinsky, the scientist who discovered the phenomenon, is understandably nervous: ‘It left us quite unsettled and jittery’ he says, ‘because this is not something we planned to find’.

The accidental discovery of what is ominously being called ‘dark flow’ not only has implications for the destinies of large numbers of galaxies – it also means that large numbers of scientists might have to find a new way of understanding the universe. Dark flow is the latest in a long line of phenomena that have threatened to re-write the textbooks. Does it herald a new era of understanding, or does it simply mean that everything we know about the universe is wrong?

14 billion years ago there was nothing; then everything exploded into existence and the universe was born, but a new generation of cosmologists are questioning this theory. Cosmologists have created a replica of the universe by using equations; it’s called the standard model of cosmology and it’s the reason behind the Big Bang theory; however, this model is now doubted. Professor Alan Guth’s theory challenges the Big Bang by stating that the universe started out small, allowing the temperature to even out everywhere, before expanding on a massive scale.

Stars nearer the edge of a galaxy move just as fast as those in the centre. This made cosmologists think that galaxies needed more gravity, but the only way to get more gravity was to create it. Astrophysicist Dan Bauer is hunting for dark matter half a mile under the dark plains of Minnesota in order to trace and record it more effectively. The discovery that the universe is speeding up suggests that a new force is powering the universe. This force is known as dark energy, and cosmologists have no idea what it is.

The combination of the standard model, inflation and dark matter has given way to a new theory called dark flow. The nature of this theory could show that our universe isn’t the only one. The standard model of cosmology has withstood much criticism, therefore making the theory stronger; however it could still be totally wrong.

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[RMorgan]

Well, probably. But I wouldn´t use the word "wrong". Inaccurate is a better word, IMHO.

[ThePythonicCow]

From Mysterious "dark flow" extends deeper than previously seen. (http://spacecollective.org/userdata/Uyb83gkF/1273759820/Space%20sheet%201klein.jpg):

http://content6.clipmarks.com/clog_clip_cache/amplify.com/F4353FA9-ABB4-4D11-8654-4B3473889B21/25F3A364-C94C-4E52-B6B0-190A1D1752AE
"Dark flow" is no fluke, suggests a new study that strengthens the case for unknown, unseen "structures" lurking on the outskirts of creation.

In 2008 scientists reported the discovery of hundreds of galaxy clusters streaming in the same direction at more than 2.2 million miles (3.6 million kilometers) an hour.

This mysterious motion can't be explained by current models for distribution of mass in the universe. So the researchers made the controversial suggestion that the clusters are being tugged on by the gravity of matter outside the known universe.

Now the same team has found that the dark flow extends even deeper into the universe than previously reported: out to at least 2.5 billion light-years from Earth.

After using two additional years' worth of data and tracking twice the number of galaxy clusters, "we clearly see the flow, we clearly see it pointing in the same direction," said study leader Alexander Kashlinsky, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

"It looks like a very coherent flow."

The find adds to the case that chunks of matter got pushed outside the known universe shortly after the big bang—which in turn hints that our universe is part of something larger: a multiverse.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Not wrong, just unbalanced.
Once you see the yin/yan pattern of energy movement, that occurs in all things from galaxies to the water in your cup, things start to become much clearer.

[Dawn]

I love that science may finally be catching up with what all meditators and conscious beings already know by direct experience. Whoopee!

[Sidney]

So what does that mean for us I wonder? Are we going to get "hoovered"? lol

[White Rabbit]

So what does that mean for us I wonder? Are we going to get "hoovered"? lol

That would totally suck... ;p lol (couldn't resist that one... )

[Red Skywalker]

Yep, all we scientifically know about the Universe IS wrong.

First: Space is not only empty space, it's TIME-SPACE.
Second: Matter IS faster then light light.
Third: so there is only light, better called electromagnetism.
Fourth: gravity is only the difference of two opposing directions of one expanding force. This force also implodes in itself, creating the electro and magnetism forces. There are 2 more forces on the atomic level, but these are also related to electromagnetism
There is also a form of these forces that works as a loopback system, it's called 'Mind'.
Time does NOT exist, unless experienced by the mind-force.

Etcetera. Much more to tell, the knowledge is available, but very hard to find and only in small, scattered pieces.

Soon we ALL will know more the Universe, and thus about ourself.

Wish I could tell more, but I have not enough understanding myself, yet.

But science is wrong, that is what I really know.

One last thing: THERE IS NOTHING to be worried about! :cool:

(You see creation at work, black holes ARE CREATORS of galaxies, NOT EATING them!)

Skywalker (what's in a name)

[truth4me]

I ask again has the earth and moon been moved?

[greybeard]

I wonder if Nasim Haramein is laughing?
Chris

[onawah]

I'm sure he is!

[Red Skywalker]

And many more are laughing:

Garrett Lisi, Tom Bearden, van Flandern, Tesla and Otis Car (from a galaxy far far away), Keely, Mehran Keshe, Victor Schauberger and many other outside the box thinking and knowing people. :loco:
They have given up to convince mainstream science which is fallen into a fundamentalism form of Einstein/Hawking religion.:lock1:

(The earth and the moon are always moving, vibrating and evolving for Truth4me. If you refer only to the orbital movements around the sun, no)

[trenairio]

i dunno a look into haramein-torsion field work may be worthwhile. unconventional-yes, is it legitimate-i dunno im not a physicist

[aranuk]

Not wrong, just unbalanced.
Once you see the yin/yan pattern of energy movement, that occurs in all things from galaxies to the water in your cup, things start to become much clearer.

Hi ddd can you elaborate a little on this please? I would love to see things clearer!

Stan

[<8>]

The theory of the big bang have never workt in my mind, for me the universe are an ongoing process, stars and planets are being made all the time.
Thats why we see the growing process as the universe moves, to make new room for new galaxies.

This is my theory, and i feel in my heart i am right. and no one can prove i am wrong on this earth.


Thanks TheOne....:)

[Red Skywalker]

The theory of the big bang have never worked in my mind, for me the universe is an ongoing process, stars and planets are being made all the time.
Thats why we see the growing process as the universe moves, to make new room for new galaxies.

You are right. :nod:

Nassim is also on the right track, but he still has a long way to go. One hint, he must simplify and more simplify :nerd: to get more understanding.

[Sidney]

So what does that mean for us I wonder? Are we going to get "hoovered"? lol

That would totally suck... ;p lol (couldn't resist that one... )


TOO FUNNY:roll:

[K626]

From Mysterious "dark flow" extends deeper than previously seen. (http://spacecollective.org/userdata/Uyb83gkF/1273759820/Space%20sheet%201klein.jpg):

http://content6.clipmarks.com/clog_clip_cache/amplify.com/F4353FA9-ABB4-4D11-8654-4B3473889B21/25F3A364-C94C-4E52-B6B0-190A1D1752AE
"Dark flow" is no fluke, suggests a new study that strengthens the case for unknown, unseen "structures" lurking on the outskirts of creation.

In 2008 scientists reported the discovery of hundreds of galaxy clusters streaming in the same direction at more than 2.2 million miles (3.6 million kilometers) an hour.

This mysterious motion can't be explained by current models for distribution of mass in the universe. So the researchers made the controversial suggestion that the clusters are being tugged on by the gravity of matter outside the known universe.

Now the same team has found that the dark flow extends even deeper into the universe than previously reported: out to at least 2.5 billion light-years from Earth.

After using two additional years' worth of data and tracking twice the number of galaxy clusters, "we clearly see the flow, we clearly see it pointing in the same direction," said study leader Alexander Kashlinsky, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

"It looks like a very coherent flow."

The find adds to the case that chunks of matter got pushed outside the known universe shortly after the big bang—which in turn hints that our universe is part of something larger: a multiverse.

Think about this. Our universe might only be the size of a planet in terms of its scale to something far larger....

K

[winston smith1971]

Dark matter theory 'may be wrong'‎
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14948730
Dark matter found at last? WIMPS in space might hold the crucial clue‎
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2038324/Dark-matter-WIMPS-space-hold-crucial-clue.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
I guess they can't make up their minds and do not really know...

[Peace of Mind]

Mostly everything we know about space is taught to us by the people we don’t really trust. And, those seemingly untrustworthy people learned almost everything they know about space from ancient text and through the lens of scopes. To truly understand anything of physicality, you need to experience it personally/ through all your senses. Until then… you have nothing but speculation, hear say and blind faith. I find it very hard to know as much as we claim to know about the cosmos when we have such a hard time leaving our own orbit. IMO, what we actually know about space is mainly based on guessing by using arithmetic and physics…that some scientist are now saying is also inaccurate.

So for now, I’ll only imagine what space really is. I’m not going to let too much of the mis-education of man guild my thoughts on it, It could all be a lie and hinder the growth of man by having him/her believing in fiction. It's best to reflect and react to what we know is definite.
In these times...none of us can really be certain about space…not until someone starts selling space ships to the general public.

Peace

[jagman]

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Dwarf galaxies suggest dark matter theory may be wrong
By Leila Battison
Science reporter, Bradford
Dwarf galaxies around the Milky Way are less dense than they should be if they held cold dark matter
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Scientists' predictions about the mysterious dark matter purported to make up most of the mass of the Universe may have to be revised.

Research on dwarf galaxies suggests they cannot form in the way they do if dark matter exists in the form that the most common model requires it to.

That may mean that the Large Hadron Collider will not be able to spot it.

Leading cosmologist Carlos Frenk spoke of the "disturbing" developments at the British Science Festival in Bradford.

The current theory holds that around 4% of the Universe is made up of normal matter - the stuff of stars, planets and people - and around 21% of it is dark matter.

The remainder is made up of what is known as dark energy, an even less understood hypothetical component of the Universe that would explain its ever-increasing expansion.

Scientists' best ideas for the formation and structure of the Universe form what is called the "cosmological standard model", or lambda-CDM - which predicts elementary particles in the form of cold dark matter (CDM).


The Boulby mine is one of the facilities dedicated to the hunt for direct evidence of dark matter
These CDM particles are believed to have formed very early in the Universe's history, around one millionth of a second after the Big Bang, and they are "cold" in the sense that they are not hypothesised to be particularly fast-moving.

The existence of the particles has not yet been proven, as they are extremely difficult to detect - they cannot be "seen" in the traditional sense, and if they exist, they interact only very rarely with the matter we know.

Various experiments are being carried out in deep mines in Yorkshire, on the Fermi Space Telescope, and in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in Switzerland to try and detect these elusive particles, or indirect evidence of their effects.

So far, none of these experiments has conclusively spotted them.

Scientists working on the problem have recently expressed dismay at the universally negative results coming from the LHC, and this has led some to consider that the standard model may be wrong.

'Disturbing possibilities'
Prof Carlos Frenk at Durham University, working with the Virgo Consortium, now has data suggesting that our understanding of the formation and composition of the Universe is incomplete.

These data come from an unlikely source: dwarf galaxies, a "halo" of which surrounds our own Milky Way.

These dwarf galaxies are believed to be mostly made up of dark matter, and contain just a few stars. Their dimness has made them difficult to study in the past.

But the Virgo Consortium has created computer simulations to visualise how the dwarf galaxies formed, using their assumptions about CDM.

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Dark matter is poised for big developments in the next few months”

Carlos Frenk
Durham University
The team found that the final results of these simulations did not at all match what we observe. The models showed many more small galaxies in a wide halo around the Milky Way, whereas in reality there are fewer, larger dwarf galaxies.

Prof Frenk explained that there were two "equally disturbing possibilities" for why this is the case.

One idea is that many dwarf galaxies formed as in the simulation, but there were violent supernova explosions during their formation that radically changed the structure of the dwarf galaxy halo.

"If this were the case, it would mean that galaxy formation is a much more exciting process than we thought," said Prof Frenk.

But there are still uncertainties over whether the small fraction of normal matter in the Universe (4%) could have such a fundamental effect on the structure of the dark matter.

An alternative cause for the discrepancies between the modelled data and what we observe is much more fundamental: that CDM does not exist, and the predictions of the standard model relating to it are false.

Prof Frenk said that after working for 35 years with the predictions of the standard model, he is "losing sleep" over the results of the simulations.

Warmer Universe
But he believes he has found a solution to the CDM problem. He proposes that instead of "cold" dark matter that formed within the first one millionth of a second after the Big Bang, the Universe may instead be filled with warm dark matter (WDM).

The WDM would have formed later, up to minutes after the Big Bang, and is described as "warm" as the particles would be lighter and more energetic.

When simulations of galaxy formation are run with the later-forming WDM instead of CDM, the halo of dwarf galaxies has the same structure as we observe in reality.


Violent supernovae in early dwarf galaxy formation could be at the heart of the discrepancy
The WDM solution is "remarkably elegant", Prof Frenk said, and it means that "the standard model is by no means dead".

But if all dark matter is WDM and not CDM, this poses major problems for our current attempts to detect it.

The LHC is designed to recreate the conditions one millionth of a second after the Big Bang. If WDM is the dominant dark matter, however, the facility will not see a trace of the particles.

Other possibilities exist for trying to detect WDM. The most likely WDM particle, the "sterile neutrino", could be identified by the X-rays it emits; but much more sensitive X-ray detectors would be needed.

Alternatively, the James Webb Space Telescope, which is designed to peer into space to look for the earliest stars, and is due to be launched in 2018 pending funding agreements, could be used to prove the non-existence of CDM.

If WDM is the dark matter holding galaxies together, then at the very earliest stages of the Universe, the telescope will see nothing, because the WDM and its accompanying galaxies would not have yet formed.

Prof Frenk explained that there is no definitive proof yet that the dark matter theories need a "paradigm shift", but he remains positive that an answer will be found soon.

"Dark matter is poised for big developments in the next few months," he said.