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ktlight
10th August 2011, 08:57
FYI:

British Home Secretary Theresa May has threatened the use water cannons and even military force to quell widespread protests in London against power abuse by police.


As the British capital witnessed the third night of spreading violence and the evident loss of police control over several parts of London, May said that officers would be allowed to use water cannons.

The decision was soon backed by Former London mayor Ken Livingstone, who believes that police must be allowed to use 'the weapon' to disperse protesters. Livingstone said, “The issue of water cannon would be very useful given the level of arson we are seeing here.”

The so-called 'riot-control weapon,' which shoots a high-pressure stream of water, was employed to control mass protests in Northern Ireland.

May also insisted that in case the police fail to regain control of London streets, the government will consider the option of deploying military forces throughout the city.

Patrick Mercer, the Tory MP and former Army officer, asked the Home Secretary to use water cannons to control the violence that has spread across the capital.

“I find it strange that we are willing to use this sort of measures against the Irish yet when Englishmen step out of line and behave in this atrocious and appalling way, we are happy to mollycoddle them,” said Mercer.

“If the police want cannon then they should be allowed to use them. I have used water cannon myself and I found them extremely effective,” he said.

Several other figures also urged the Home Office to apply the so-called anti-riot weapon, claiming that in some cases cannon use was necessary.

Met Police said in a statement that they used armoured vehicles to push back London protesters on the third night of spreading unrest in London.

Commander Christine Jones, said, "We are using tactics flexibly to respond to the disorder we are still seeing in different areas of the capital. Anyone involved in criminality should be under no illusion that we will pursue you. We have been making arrests all evening and have a team working during the night examining CCTV images. We will follow up evidence in the coming days in order to bring anyone else responsible for criminal acts to justice."

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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193059.html

Lancelot
10th August 2011, 09:43
Does this mean the military will be recalled from Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq?
Its about time the army was used for defence instead of attack...

dan i el
10th August 2011, 10:53
It was less than a year ago that the UK govt initially brought water cannons to mainland UK, yet the news reports like they have always been in the police arsenal. curious


Police could use water cannon to disperse rioters, Theresa May says
Theresa May, the Home Secretary, has opened the way for water cannon to be used on the British mainland for the first time if future demonstrations escalate into uncontrollable violence.
Police Service of Northern Ireland officers with water cannon in North Belfast
Police used water cannons on the rioters Photo: AP
Andrew Porter

By Andrew Porter, Political Editor

12:10PM GMT 12 Dec 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8197432/Police-could-use-water-cannon-to-disperse-rioters-Theresa-May-says.html

Tane Mahuta
10th August 2011, 10:54
Does this mean the military will be recalled from Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq?
Its about time the army was used for defence instead of attack...

What UK authorities are doing is.....further inciting the riots!

By stating the possible use of the armed forces they hope to
escalate the situation.....why?....why to bring in more controls.

Problem...Reaction...Solution!! (David Icke)


nuff said

TM

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10th August 2011, 10:59
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Arrowwind
10th August 2011, 14:04
this is from cnn news:

Speaking outside 10 Downing Street Wednesday, Cameron said those involved would be held accountable -- and stressed that sections of society that had lost their respect for authority and sense of personal responsibility must change.
It was "all too clear we have a big problem with gangs," he said, adding that the authorities would not "let any phony concerns about human rights" prevent police trying to identify young suspects.

norman
10th August 2011, 14:20
I heard that Cameron speech to the press and I couldn't help noticing that everything he said the rioters were was an exact mirror image of what the PTB are.

ktlight
10th August 2011, 17:21
I heard that Cameron speech to the press and I couldn't help noticing that everything he said the rioters were was an exact mirror image of what the PTB are.

And they didn't send in NATO to quell the riots, as they did in Middle East.

norman
10th August 2011, 17:41
I heard that Cameron speech to the press and I couldn't help noticing that everything he said the rioters were was an exact mirror image of what the PTB are.

And they didn't send in NATO to quell the riots, as they did in Middle East.

Well, to stick with that analogy, wouldn't it be a case of some group of foreign interests sending in helecopter gunships to support the rioters?

ktlight
10th August 2011, 18:43
I don't know if any looting took place in the Middle East. And I am not condoning the looting in UK. I feel, especially in light of the rapid spread of this activity, that the PTB knew it would happen. I don't feel foreigners would be involved, nor anyone from anywhere. If it had remained a protest, well organised and silent, the PTB would more than likely have caused it to become violent, as they usually do.

In the Middle East, since March this year, the protests were dealt with through the use of NATO. So, maybe you're right, Norman.

Lord Sidious
12th August 2011, 00:26
I heard that Cameron speech to the press and I couldn't help noticing that everything he said the rioters were was an exact mirror image of what the PTB are.

One finger pointing forwards and three pointing back.

Maia Gabrial
12th August 2011, 00:32
TM,
I'm thinking maybe this time their solution to the engineered problem will be rejected by the people. They're certainly mad enough. Sounds to me like they've awakened en masse. Maybe the authorities will actually be afraid of what they've provoked....