my daughter was attacked in her dream this morning

[shadowstalker]

[Hi, this is Mana Moonchild, Shadowstalker's daughter. I don't normally post this sort of stuff for a lot of people to see. Mom really thought I should share though.

First before I tell you about my dream I would like to point out that around midnight or two this morning Mom got up to use the bathroom and while she was out of the room I saw a shadowy figure walk towards her bed, I had turned to it thinking it was Mom but then saw nothing there. I figured I was just tired since I don't have the best sleeping schedule and I always see strange things when I'm very tired.

I was waiting or my husband to call (he is a soldier in the Army and he is doing his first tour in South Korea so he's way ahead of us and his evening time is our early morning time) and got a little bothered when he didn't call at his usual time but, I figured he might be working late or he's doing the some military thing. I laid down around 3ish and was just closing my eyes when I saw a black figure beside my bed, it almost looked like it was bending down or something. I tried to figure out what it was but fell asleep pretty quick.

That was when I had my dream. I dreamt of this woman with long curly brown reddish hair that looked like she was from maybe the pioneer days, you know, like Little House on the Prairie times. She was in a picture and I was looking at it and hearing a voice talk about a woman who died (I'm not sure of all of it, it was like I was hearing half of it and the rest was somehow blocked out). Suddenly her face did a freakish morph from this pretty woman to this horrifying corpse like face and it screamed and then a cat's tail wrapped around my neck and it almost seemed like I was being dragged into a coffin or something.

When I woke up I felt really off and scared and I'm not normally scared by dreams but, this one had really bothered me and I felt like something was in the room. I had sat up and looked around to see if I could find it and Mom asked what was up and I told her about my dream. She was surprised because she said I had JUST laid down.

I've had these sorts of things before. I lay down and somehow I am instantly asleep and I wake up feeling off and I was only asleep for a minimum of five minutes.

I'm not sure what happened this morning, these sorts of things never happen in our house, we take precautions and such. It is very rare we're attacked (or we feel somehow we've been attacked), the last time something came my way was because of my elder cousin's supidity.

Well, that's all I have to say about this subject. We're still trying to figure out what happened.

Thanks for your time.

Love,
Mana Moonchild]

[Forevernyt]

Just keep saying to yourself that it has no power over you. It's your house, and you're in control of it.

[Davidallany]

Try taking some MMS, it's good stuff. Will help you sleep better. I also recommend sitting meditation, it should help you get centered and recharge your ætheric body. You have an awesome mom.

[Fred Steeves]

Wow Mana, I'm not much of an authority on these kind of things, but my first impression is that a lost soul who is afraid to move on locked into your light, energy, or whatever. Maybe desperate for help, and has forgotten completely about manners?

If that happened to me, once I was done freaking out and had thought/felt things through, I think I would ground myself nice and solid, know my power, and put forth a call to this entity to see if there is something I can assist with.

Please let us know what happens regardless, and know you have plenty of backup here.:)

Cheers,
Fred

[Forevernyt]

But the danger lies in whether or not this is a passed on human spirit or a negative non-human entity. If it's non-human, you do not want to provoke, or invite it to do anything.

If it's a human spirit, then you have less to be afraid of.

[RMorgan]

There is a whole race of "Shadow People". They are mostly inorganic beings from other lower dimensions, that feed from our energies and emotions, mostly fear, that´s why they induce us to have nightmares, so they can feed on us.

Most of the time, these beings are not noticed, because we´re sleeping when they feed on us. But a lot of nightmares are caused by them.

Like always, children behavior always give us answers for almost everything. There´s a reason for, most of young kids, enjoying sleeping with a small night light near their bed. ;)

These beings hate violet and blue lights. So, get yourself a violet night light and sleep in peace. I guarantee it will work.

[Dawn]

This is a good sign that you are awakening new awareness's in yourself. All the people I know who have been 'awake' for a while go through this period in their lives. It sounds as though you are doing some 'soul catching' or beginning to bring a shattered part of yourself back into your core. This will make you more powerful in the long run, however there is usually a reason why we shut off parts of ourselves, and it isn't because they were in joy. Often these parts have been residing in portions of the astral or etheric planes for eons of time. When they return they come back with the awareness of the reality they have been inhabiting attached. They often left due to an unresolved trauma and this can cause you to feel fragile and off for a few days (or rarely a few weeks). The gift is that you get to capture that powerful portion of yourself and the abilities it has.

Meanwhile, dealing with entities who believe they have power over you is really easy. It might take a while to get the hang of it in a deep way. However, once mastered you will seldom be bothered again. The trick is to realize that when you experience hate or fear in the presence of one of these beings... the emotion is NOT COMING FROM YOU!!!!! That is, YOU are NOT afraid or hateful, you are simply experiencing the emotional energy of that being. If you remain in love and realize you are experiencing them ... they will immediately lose all ability to effect you in any way.

I often work with these types of 'invisible' beings, which are actually all over the place all the time. Awakening involves becoming aware of them ... and this can be pretty shocking to your ego self. It's not like our society recognizes these worlds as having any reality of validity, and we have all been programmed from an early age to pretend they are not there. Beginning a dialogue with them often helps. Here is a simple rudimentary dialog that is a good learning tool for anyone beginning the journey into this realm (which you obviously are)
TRUTH(!) Who are you? (you can also ask 'who, what and where are you?')
TRUTH(!) Who were you before that?
TRUTH(!) Who will you be next?
Do you realize that you do not have a body?
Do you need help in leaving or finding your nucleus of being?

The reason you state TRUTH! before you ask a question is because the resonance of this word removes their ability to try trickery. They really have to remain in integrity when a question is asked with this preface.

When you engage them in dialog, they generally will not answer in words, however you will feel their frequency change and become different. As you offer them help in leaving from a totally neutral place you will be surprised how much gratitude they often shower you with. I have been moved to tears by many of them as their gratitude flowed into me in waves. You will also be doing the rest of us humans a favor, as you clean up the energetic 'smog' around the earth. I usually tell them I will give any of their 'friends' that would like to leave with them, safe passage out of this reality. Sometimes just one leaves, often millions leave with them.

Be patient with yourself. It can take a while to obtain the level of equanimity you need to work with all of them. But your power to stay centered will become stronger with each encounter. Also... be aware that the number of encounters you have will likely increase as your awareness does. Then, one day, it will be over and you will seldom be bothered.

Enjoy your journey back to power, awareness, and strength. I send you my light and love. Well done!

[<8>]

Hi Mana...

I think all happends for a reason, a big plan if you will..:P

I had a few bad weeks... I just can feel the bad wib when i go to bed. Sometimes i think the dark side attack us wid a good wib, or maby it is something there we need to learn.
I just send out my good wib and it works for me.
My GF who are NOT awake, had 2 realy bad dreams this week. We was in a food store, people was fighting over food i guess, people used energi weapons and i got killed, then she was in the US and the big buildings was blowing up. She was crying realy hard when she woke up.

You are eternal, nothing can hurt you! They are just scaring you. Stay strong ill send my love to you..

[RMorgan]

I often work with these types of 'invisible' beings, which are actually all over the place all the time. Awakening involves becoming aware of them ... and this can be pretty shocking to your ego self. Beginning a dialogue with them often helps. Here is a simple rudimentary dialog that is a good learning tool for anyone beginning the journey into this realm (which you obviously are)
TRUTH(!) Who are you? (you can also ask 'who, what and where are you?')
TRUTH(!) Who were you before that?
TRUTH(!) Who will you be next?
Do you realize that you do not have a body?
Do you need help in leaving or finding your nucleus of being.


Don´t do that. Never engage talking with "Shadow People".

[Jake]

I laid down around 3ish and was just closing my eyes when I saw a black figure beside my bed, it almost looked like it was bending down or something. I tried to figure out what it was but fell asleep pretty quick.

That was when I had my dream.

When I woke up I felt really off and scared and I'm not normally scared by dreams but, this one had really bothered me and I felt like something was in the room. I had sat up and looked around to see if I could find it and Mom asked what was up and I told her about my dream. She was surprised because she said I had JUST laid down.

I've had these sorts of things before. I lay down and somehow I am instantly asleep and I wake up feeling off and I was only asleep for a minimum of five minutes.

Thanks for your time.

Love,
Mana Moonchild]

I have some experience with the shadowy figures that you are talking about. And with that sort of experience, in general.

I don't know how much experience you have with mediation and trance. Based on what you have said, i think you may have the same 'problem' that I do. Not a problem once you have identified it. :) The problem is that you drop into trance easily and naturally. ie,,, you will fall 'asleep' faster. not really asleep, but you will fall into that state of mind that usually presents itself when it is asleep. I had a sleep doctor once tell me that they were hallucinations,,, I wanted to punch him in the ribbs. :( These shadowy figures are part of a construct that we completely understand, when our sleeping minds are engaged. But when we witness them from the 'waking minds' point of view,,, it can be quite scary. Rest assured,,, you are already protected. IMHO,, the reason that you see the shadowy figure at all, is because your waking mind drops into trance vvvvveeeerrrrryyyy easily. It is the same with many clairvoyants. ;)

At some point, your dreaming mind took over and interpreted it in its own way... very hard to explain. I fought with this phenomenon for yyyyyeeeeaaaarrrrsssss. It has to do with you OWN awakening. :cool:

Please understand that this is my opinion, based on my own experience. You may be dealing with something different. Cheers. Jake...

You should register for membership here right away... :):)

[Jake]

Sorry, i closed this thread on accident. It is reopened now... A special thanks to mee guardian angel. ;)

[cheez_2806]

I just asked granny about what the experience you habe might be. Just a dream or something is happening??
She said that you might have something unclean in your house or it could be either that red hair girl is warning u of some kind about that cats tail. Are you sure it's a cats tail,she said it could be a snake or some type or weapon used like a scarf or something??
Or it could be that the red hair is that entity you saw and it's trying to get something from you.

[Lost Soul]

Wow. I was thinking what Fred S. was saying that some entity was trying to lock onto you and frighten you. What RMorgan says about shadow people is very much the same.

I've had similar things happen where I was being grabbed and struck. I called out the name out the Creator and when that didn't worked, I denounced it telling it in the name of Christ that it had no power and could not harm me. That stopped immediately. The point is to fight it rather than feed its need for fear.

Thank you for sharing this with us.

Many blessings and may you sleep peacefully.

[shadowstalker]

[Mana Moonchild here again. Thanks so much for listening and for giving me advice and help, I highly appreciate it :happy: Right now I am waiting for my (Hopefully) approval to join so I can properly reply and thank everyone myself instead of typing through my poor mother's stuff :laugh: ]

[PixieDust]

I dont have much to add from what everyone else has said about protection and not letting it control you by fear and.. well all the other posts above me haha!

the thing that caught my eye is the only time i've ever been attacked spiritually or magikly the being attacking me was in the form of a cat. It was like a lynx type cat not a house cat. The only difference with my attack was it didnt have to do with shadow people. I was trying to help the cat in my dream because it was scared and angry but woke up with long scratches down my arm where the cat had scratched me in my dream. I had pissed off a guy who was into dark magic and using it badly because i wouldn't fall for his idiotic crap and stood as a white beam so he got to me when my gaurd was down. Needless to say i blocked him completly and never had anymore problems. I think it also stopped him cause i wasnt scared in my dream but trying to help the cat.

I associate the cat form with "evil", not that cats are evil or a form of evil, but because the guy had a tattoo of a goat skeleton on his hand. Very cool tattoo, but i asked him once if goats were his animal guides and he said kinda and then it struck me that the devil is sometypes depicted as a goat or goat like features. Pure speculation but maybe the shadow figures are dark entities (pardon the pun) and there is something to do with them taking a form of a cat like he did or he sent out to me. that is an incomplete thought and it didnt come out quite how id have liked it to...

That probably doesnt help you much but i thought id share that experiance with you anyway. So yeah, i wouldn't invite anything in because you dont know what else will sneak by, reinforce your gaurds that you already have in place and i saw someone mentioned that the red haird woman might have been asking for your help, if you feel thats true then id send a blessing to her.

Kill them with kindness and dont let them scare you. I also enjoy pissing the "bad" people off by being nice to them nothing is more fun then seeing them realize they have no power over you.

BTW my husband is in the army also and stationed in germany so i feel your pain with that scenerio. I hope he comes home soon cause i know the distance is hard. I hope he doesnt have to do anything dangerous. I hope the time passes quickly for you guys and youll be together soon. peace and love!

pixie

[Vitalux]

Interesting event which occurred.
Lately I have been studying about hypnosis and learning about how easily our conscious mind can be controlled by our unconscious mind.
I am wondering if perhaps your unconscious mind could be trying to relate things to your conscious mind.
I've heard of similar type experiences that occur with alien abduction cases.

Please consider this in all seriousness, before you dismiss it.
I tend to feel that the vast majority of us at various times in our life, are abducted by our benevolent grays who check up on us for medical or some other purpose.
When we have this encounter with them, or conscious mind is "switched off" however our unconscious mind still records fully the event.
In effect, you are wide awake interacting with our alien abductors, however you will not consciously remember. They appear to wipe the event from the conscious memory.

Sometimes in cases, people will have horrible nightmares and develop neurotic behavior. Often as a result of these problems they will seek professional help often with a psychiatrist.
The psychiatrist, in some instances might have the insight to induce a state of hypnoses to explore and probe the patients unconscious mind.
As a result of those investigations the evidence often points to alien abduction.

Even thought we are talking about a dream and odd sighting of a figure, this very well could be an instance of it.
You might be able to find someone trained in hypnosis to volunteer to give you a reading.
Just and idea.

[PurpleLama]

This sounds to me like a face being put to your fears and concerns for your husband, which is the sort of thing that the subconscious loves to do. Not as much fun as witches and aliens, but then again, in regards to the subconscious mind "With friends like these, who needs enemies?" Meaning, we bring our greatest challenges to our own selves and hold them in our own consciousness until we learn what we wanted and free ourselves to let them go. Burn more candles for your husband and sprinkle a little extra salt and don't worry. Fear will prevent clarity in this sort of question.


---EDIT---

I am getting a deeper meaning that speaks of initiation. Possibly a witnessing of the first step, which is the end of the old forms, "death," not just yours, but collectively, hence the photograph, it being a sight into the past in a historic sense as well. The transformation of the woman is the end of what brings us this far. The feline is magic and mystery, that being misunderstood can become an object of fear. It's just the unknown, and so the tail taking you by the throat taking you to your own death and resurrection, after which you will SPEAK words of power.

Take it for what you will.

[ghostrider]

had the same thing happen, you are awakening, take the power of oneness= all of us= and tell them BRING IT ON... they will never trouble you again. we are all one being=one body=one spirit= nothing has more power than the power of unity. come on avalonians in whatever way works for you send this family some protection=energy= a giant sheild of peace.... light warriors arise this is war... I've had enough of other biengs invading the minds of us, time to take the fight to them .. all of them.... all.... time to link mentally link spiritually as one and say NO MORE.... its our realm now......

[animalspirits]

Mana,

I have to disagree with the ones that told you not to talk to shadow people. Depending on the level of your soul awareness, many, many positive entities can appear as shadow people to you, including animal and plant spirits because you can't see what they really look like yet. I talk to all of them and have never had a problem.

This will help you: keep your intent neutral...not positive or negative, but neutral. If it is an unwanted being and you have neutral energy, there is nothing for it to either be attracted to or feed off of. Beings looking for free energy will quickly go off somewhere else if there is no energy for them to feed off of. Of course, you have to have your mind/ego under control enough that it doesn't throw you back into fear mode (negative energy).

I am more interested in the animal's tail that wrapped around your neck. When I read your post I saw a Black Jaguar and not a shadow person. If you are unable to see animal spirits, a black Jaguar is going to appear as a shadow being because you can't discern what you are seeing yet. I would not assume it was trying to drag you into a coffin (fear response). It would have been interesting to see where it was dragging you. I strongly suspect it was not to a bad place, but rather a place to calm and teach you.

But I am not a fear driven person. Aliens and other spirit beings do not scare me...and after asking permission, I talk to them. Often they are just confused souls that do not know they are dead yet and need a bit of help to find their way to the soul world/heaven.

Talking to any spirit is done the same way: via telepathy. The responses you get are very fast. If you allow time for the response to move through your mind/ego it will be altered. The mind/ego wishes to maintain control over the soul/heart and will do just about anything in order to do that. It usually uses fear as its number one method of deterring you from doing soul work.

;)

[Rantaak]

It sounds like you've been experiencing one of two things (especially if this has happened under similar circumstances). It could either be hypnagogia or an endogenous flash of the neurotransmitter n,n-dimethyltryptamine. It is also possible that these phenomena are the same.

If the mind is new to this state, symbols of fear can come up more easily as a result of psychological disorientation. This makes it really easy for certain etheric beings to identify you as lunch. I would recommend setting up magical barriers on your walls, windows and mirrors (might there be any large, especially old mirrors in the room this happened in?). These barriers would be created with the intent of preventing malicious beings to enter.

And now bridging this into the scientific; I suggest that you seek to remove fear from your mind, as it will psychologically facilitate greater clarity and equilibrium. This is useful for most people in general, but especially important when visions, mystical experiences, and things of general ethereal nature become involved.

I hope my words are helpful to you :-)

[Laura Elina]

It's quite disorientating, when it happens, in a dream state it's easier to deal with these 'attacks', command over yourself is very fast, 'love' does the trick, and when it happens while you're awake, it's quite scary, but love works as well, for me it took a little while to gain command over myself, when something/someone else was trying to be in control, I spent a couple of days awake, when that something prevented me from falling asleep (well it was my own reaction to it really preventing me from doing it when it really comes down to it, but I didn't have power over those reactions at that moment). When I was about to fall asleep, I begun vibrating and experienced immense heat, and a state of fear was induced by this, my heart was racing so uncontrollably that I honestly thought I'd have heart failure as a result, it was intense. I got very fearful and couldn't fall asleep, one could say I felt like I was harassed to stay awake, but... Love is the answer`(for myself at least in those situations, suppose love and fear as states are of different vibrations) and now I sleep. Whether that is a good thing or not, lol, well suppose that's debatable.

[Krullenjongen]

I always talk to Jesus before i go to sleep and ask Him to watch over and protect me, this has worked great for me.
In the very few cases that i felt a weird, dark presence when i woke up in the middle of the night i just told it to go in the name of Jesus and it immediately disappeared.

If this has only happened recently i could also be connected to some object that was recently placed i your room or something you have recently bought.
This can be anything from a dream-catcher to jewelery.
I have heard of people getting rid of dream-catchers, owl statue's or wiccan rings or amulets and after that the "entities" were gone.

[jagman]

very interesting story, I have a question.During your expierence did you feel as if your body was paralyzed ?

[Rantaak]

I always talk to Jesus before i go to sleep and ask Him to watch over and protect me, this has worked great for me.
In the very few cases that i felt a weird, dark presence when i woke up in the middle of the night i just told it to go in the name of Jesus and it immediately disappeared.

If this has only happened recently i could also be connected to some object that was recently placed i your room or something you have recently bought.
This can be anything from a dream-catcher to jewelery.
I have heard of people getting rid of dream-catchers, owl statue's or wiccan rings or amulets and after that the "entities" were gone.

If pagan trinkets that are the culprit, then Jesus was an atheist.

[animalspirits]

I always talk to Jesus before i go to sleep and ask Him to watch over and protect me, this has worked great for me.
In the very few cases that i felt a weird, dark presence when i woke up in the middle of the night i just told it to go in the name of Jesus and it immediately disappeared.

If this has only happened recently i could also be connected to some object that was recently placed i your room or something you have recently bought.
This can be anything from a dream-catcher to jewelery.
I have heard of people getting rid of dream-catchers, owl statue's or wiccan rings or amulets and after that the "entities" were gone.

I love Pagans. They are among the gentlest of souls. If you consider dream catchers, owl statutes, jewelry, etc to be the work of the Devil, I have to ask "Why are you even posting on this forum?" It seems that you are very much confined to your Christian religion box and can't give respect to the other souls that wish to belong to other religions. IMO, Religious intolerance is a very dangerous mindset to put yourself in.

BTW, shadow people will go away if you tell them to and you are not steeped down in fear mode. Being in fear mode makes them much more curious because they just don't understand that type of reaction....and will try and communicate with you to find out why, which is not a bad thing.

Of course, if you are stuck in the "Anything or anyone other that Jesus is evil mode" then nothing is going to help you until you drop that box/bag and find the courage to dare to look at the unknown without fear.

[PurpleLama]

Animalspirits, I must contest. Everyone should be made welcome in Avalon. Various tolerences must be made, to be sure, and that includes the Christian truth seeker as much as the pagan, the athiest, the agnostic, the jew, the taoist, the muslim, the buddhist, the vedantist, so on and on and on. The mode of thought you are criticizing krullenjogen for is actually very effective within that belief system. Now, as it was a well meaning suggestion, it ought to be treated as such. I live in mississippi, and religious intolerance is the rule of the day, and having experienced such I can assure you there is no intolerance in krullenjogen's suggestion. It was very well meaning, and I ask you, why did it get such a rise out of you? If one is Christian, or Pagan, or whatever, we can all seek truth together here on Avalon and we ought to look past the surface of things, especially with each other, past culture and religion, to see the motives and intentions and appreciate them without getting hung up on differences. I don't wish to cause further offence, and I apologize if this post seems aggressive at all, it's not my intention. I actually appreciate your posts, in general, and I should say that the black jaguar was spot on, I saw the exact same thing! I neglected to mention because that one hits pretty close to home, for me. Love to you, and to all.

[animalspirits]

Animalspirits, I must contest. Everyone should be made welcome in Avalon. Various tolerences must be made, to be sure, and that includes the Christian truth seeker as much as the pagan, the athiest, the agnostic, the jew, the taoist, the muslim, the buddhist, the vedantist, so on and on and on. The mode of thought you are criticizing krullenjogen for is actually very effective within that belief system. Now, as it was a well meaning suggestion, it ought to be treated as such. I live in mississippi, and religious intolerance is the rule of the day, and having experienced such I can assure you there is no intolerance in krullenjogen's suggestion. It was very well meaning, and I ask you, why did it get such a rise out of you? If one is Christian, or Pagan, or whatever, we can all seek truth together here on Avalon and we ought to look past the surface of things, especially with each other, past culture and religion, to see the motives and intentions and appreciate them without getting hung up on differences. I don't wish to cause further offence, and I apologize if this post seems aggressive at all, it's not my intention. I actually appreciate your posts, in general, and I should say that the black jaguar was spot on, I saw the exact same thing! I neglected to mention because that one hits pretty close to home, for me. Love to you, and to all.

Lama,

I really don't need a "dressing down" by you as to what Avalon is. I really found your post offensive and an attempt to put me in my place, so to speak. I have years as a counselor and I fully recognize the "sandwich" approach to your post...so the apology, etc. part at the end I found to be disingenuous...after the downright ugliness of the first part. You are quite adept at couching your words so they appear to be gentle when in fact the underlying message you are directing to the person is quite negative.

It would have been fine IF the person had began their last paragraph with something like: 'If you are Christian" but they didn't. It did not read that way.

They stated: "This can be anything from a dream-catcher to jewelery.
I have heard of people getting rid of dream-catchers, owl statue's or wiccan rings or amulets and after that the "entities" were gone."

You say that all religions are acceptable and I agree with that. I do not agree with that last paragraph. It singled out Wicca and other Native religions which is something I have seen far too much in the more popular mainstream religions....and yes, I do have a huge problem with them because of their seeming inability to allow others their paths. I live in the South, as well, and I read it as religious intolerance plain and simple.

In the end, I really don't care what religion one practices. It is up to them. I am, however, tired of seeing the Earth-Based religions equated with Devil/"entities" (through inference) worship.

For your information, I am probably one of the strongest and most clear as to what their path is Indigo you will ever meet. Indigos are very gifted at reading manipulation.

Have a nice day.

[PurpleLama]

there is no profit in meeting intolerance with further intolerance. I am truly sorry you found my post offensive. It was well meaning as was krullenjogens. I will try harder in the future to avoid such misunderstanding. Hope you have a nice day as well, with all sincerity.

[animalspirits]

there is no profit in meeting intolerance with further intolerance. I am truly sorry you found my post offensive. It was well meaning as was krullenjogens. I will try harder in the future to avoid such misunderstanding. Hope you have a nice day as well, with all sincerity.

It wouldn't let me just post the icon, said I had to have at least 10 characters.

:kiss:

[shadowstalker]

My daughter is now a member of the forum (Mana Moonchild) But i think she keeps forgetting she is but I will remind her to check up on her thread here.
Mean while if you wish to know more about her go here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27780-Mana-Moonchild-Shadowstalker