Genocide in Gaza

[irishspirit]

It really seems to me that these nations are building up, laying the ground work if you like, for a massive war. However, should war kick of their, the effects will be felt around the world. This is getting more and more open by the day.

Whilst I still believe that this is Staged, this is going to be big if allowed to carry on.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/assad-syria-prepared-to-act-against-israel-s-siege-of-gaza-1.294662

[Rimbaud]

Dear Irishspirit,

Totally agree with you that things seem to be "ramping up"...I also heard that the Turkish Prime Minister is intending to be on a relief vessel heading for Gaza surrounded by a flotilla of the Turkish Navy to test Israels resolve to stop any kind of involvement there.

I can see one of two scenarios playing out here...

1) Israel risks an all out war with the Arab States, especially if they fire apon the Turks (not only is their Army absolutely massive...2nd largest in the World), but they're also a crucial Ally of the USA

2) Israel back down a bit and allow aid into Gaza, perhaps using UN inspectors to investigate bills of lading and inspect cargos etc...It's clear that the two sides simply can't cooperate without some kind of third party.

The first scenario doesn't bear thinking about as it would be the catastrophe that we all fear. Will Israel take us all to the brink? I think that they've got the willpower to do it..I lived there once so I think I've an insight into how their P.O.B's minds work. In the meantime, the rest of the World are watching how this all plays out...let's pray to God that all the assholes with their finger on the trigger make the right choices when the time comes.

Thanks for your comment irishspirit, and allowing me to respond with my views.

Rimbaud

[irishspirit]

Rimbaud,

excellent point my friend. I really don't think the people of Isreal have any will for more fighting and wars. I personally feel that the General people of Isreal, outside of the Zionist movement, are looking to make peace and friendship with their fellow middle eastern friends.

I do not for one second suggest that I know alot about the Middle east, however, I know about conflict coming up in Northern Ireland to be able to say that people can only have so much before they "snap".

Turkey for their part has always been a riend to Isreal, however, for some reason it has been broken up. The thing is, the turkish military is much bigger and much better prepared than the Isreal military.

I dread the outcome of this should it end up in war.

Be safe.


Irish spirit

[irishspirit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc8h83Ea1Xs&feature=player_embedded#!

[Studeo]

Source: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/06/09/israel-threatens-war-if-turkish-pm-tries-to-deliver-gaza-aid/



Israel Threatens War if Turkish PM Tries to Deliver Gaza Aid
Israeli Official Warns of Casus Belli on Israeli Army Radio
by Jason Ditz, June 09, 2010
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Israeli Army commander and top Likud member Uzi Dayan today warned on Israeli Army Radio that Israel would consider any attempt by the Turkish military to protect future aid ships from attack an “act of war.”
Dayan then added that if Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan attempted to accompany the aid ships personally, as he has reportedly considered “we would not try to take over the ship he was on, but would sink it.” He added that Erdogan’s presence on a future aid ship would also be a casus belli for an Israeli war against Turkey.
Turkey has expressed outrage at last week’s Israeli attack on a Turkish aid ship bound for Gaza, an attack in which Israeli troops killed at least nine civilian aid workers. Israel has insisted that the aid ship was secretly in league with al-Qaeda and has since tried to spin Turkey as the villain for even allowing a ship to try to deliver aid to the besieged strip.
The Israeli killings have only increased the number of groups planning attempts to deliver aid, and Israeli officials have promised to stop all these attempts militarily as well.
The explicit threat of war against Turkey is something new, however. While Israel starts wars with a casualness rarely seen in other nations, an attack on Turkey, a key NATO member with an enormous military, would be something quite different from a monthlong attack on the Gaza Strip or blowing up metro Beirut with air strikes.

[Hiram]

If we imagine for a moment...that we are all friends and colleagues in the greater reality beyond this little one we call life, in the grand energetic reality from which we all came.....If we imagine that to be true, we can view all this blustering and anger and threats as quite theatrical..and dare I say it, even funny?

We are all co-creating this reality, and for some reason this particular conflict that we have co-created has served us for quite a while now. I wonder how much longer this little conflict, between two little groups of people, living right next to eachother, on a tiny blue little planet tucked into a small little corner of one out of billions of galaxies will last? When will we un-create this?

I wonder, I wonder.

[Humble Janitor]

This foolishness on Israel's part has got to stop. When people need help because of your foolishness, you don't attack/kill them.

[ExHaLaTiON]

Israel is bluffing, the Turks would crush them.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well Israel understands 2 things about Erdogan

1st - he answers to the Grand Ayasolla of Iran
2nd - the majority of Turkey would prefer to see him disappear from the political scene so it could get back to a secular government and stop the swing into an Islamic state.

so the truth is if he did attempt to ride an aid ship in that was sunk by Israel and he was killed...

The Turkish Military would say "thank you"


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Turkish police detained former heads of the air force and navy among 40 people held in an investigation into an alleged plot to undermine the Islamist-rooted government and trigger a military coup, the authorities announced yesterday (23 February).

The swoop, one of the largest against the secularist armed forces, added to a growing sense of foreboding in the Muslim nation, where a clash between the government and the judiciary had already raised fears of a political crisis.

Armed forces chief General Ilker Basbug postponed a trip to Egypt as a result of the detentions, state-run Anatolian news agency said.

Among those held, according to broadcasters, were former Air Force Commander Ibrahim Firtina, former Naval Commander Ozden Ornek and ex-Deputy Chief of the General Staff General Ergin Saygun.

Speaking in Madrid at the start of an official visit, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said more than 40 people were detained in the raids.

News channel CNN-Turk put the number at 49, including 17 retired generals, four serving admirals, 27 officers and one enlisted man.

Story (http://www.euractiv.com/en/enlargement/turkey-detains-top-generals-conspiracy-probe-news-282242)

hey Erdogan, do the world a favor and hop on the boat...

Iran will cry, but the Turks will celebrate along with Isreal...

[Midnight Oil]

No..no...no....This latest Mavi Marmara incident was I believe a setup,i pre-planned event by Turkey and Israel.....why????.....easy Erdogans party, AKP, is loosing serious blood and they need support from the people, elections are coming....there is a bigger picture, but I unfortunately do not have time yet to write all my knowledge...but will do soon enough ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm looking forward to what you have to share.

Turkey's population has watched Erdogan moving them closer with every move to Islamic rule and have watched him move the country closer to Iran and isolation from most first world countries.

The next election will involve corruption to make sure he stays in power just like they did recently in Iran to keep the little chimp in place...

[Studeo]

SEA BATTLE FEAR AS IRAN SENDS FLOTILLA TO GAZA
IRANIAN President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has vowed to breach Israel’s blockade of Gaza, as two aid ships and a military escort prepare to set sail.
In a provocative move the *Iranian Red Crescent was this weekend due to send two vessels packed with food and medical aid and 70 relief workers.
A third ship, carrying an operating theatre, could follow.

More
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/180605/Sea-battle-fear-as-Iran-sends-flotilla-to-Gaza

[Studeo]

Source: The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/11/gaza-flotilla-attack-new-video

Gaza flotilla attack: activist releases new footage
Documentary maker Iara Lee smuggles out video despite Israeli attempt to confiscate all recordings
Haroon Siddique
guardian.co.uk, Friday 11 June 2010 17.33 BST
Israeli Attack on the Mavi Marmara, May 31st 2010 // 15 min. from Cultures of Resistance on Vimeo. Warning: contains graphic scenes
New footage has emerged of the Israeli assault on a convoy of aid ships headed to Gaza in which nine activists were killed.
The high-quality film was reportedly recorded by New York-based documentary maker Iara Lee aboard the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ship that bore the brunt of the Israeli attacks.
Israel attempted to confiscate all footage recorded by participants in the Gaza Freedom flotilla – including taking away mobile phones – but Lee managed to smuggle one hour of video out of the country by hiding it in her underwear, it was reported.
The 15 minutes of film posted online shows the moments leading up to and during the Israeli commandos' assault on the Mavi Marmara.
At one stage, the captain of the boat can be heard over the public address system saying: "Do not show resistance … They are using live ammunition … Be calm, be very calm." Gunshots can be heard.
The film includes footage of an Israeli inflatable boat carrying commandos, and troops can be seen rappelling from a helicopter on to the Mavi Marmara. While they do so, two men on the Marmara can be seen using catapults aimed at the soldiers, who are high above them, although the projectiles they are firing cannot be ascertained.
At one point, a passenger on the boat says to the camera: "[The activists] hold two soldiers down here, bleeding and wounded." One soldier can be seen being carried down the stairs of the vessel. In an interview with Democracy Now, Lee said the soldiers were injured in the commotion. "They got treatment by our passengers," she said.
A number of passengers are shown in the video receiving medical treatment for wounds, including one man being resuscitated. He does not appear to respond. At the end of the footage a woman can be heard shouting: "We have no guns here, we are civilians taking care of injured people. Don't use violence, we need help."
Lee described the attack as terrifying. "[The Israelis] came to kill," she said. "They wanted to take over the ship."
More than 600 pro-Palestinian activists were detained by Israel in the 31 May raids on the aid convoy. There was global condemnation of the assault but Israel claimed its troops acted in self-defence after coming under attack from members of an "extremist" Turkish group.
It announced on Monday it would conduct an internal investigation into the incident, defying pressure for a thorough international inquiry.
The UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions said any inquiry set up by Israel should include "all video and other records of the incident, including those confiscated from civilians". Philip Alston said it must be able to interview all key witnesses, including military personnel.
"Any inquiry set up by Israel to investigate the Gaza flotilla incident must be given a genuine capacity to find the facts. Without that capacity an inquiry will simply not be considered credible."
Alston said the inquiry must be independent of government, have full legal authority to investigate and make its final report open to the public.

[Studeo]

Former New Zealand Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer says heading an inquiry into the fatal Israeli raid on the Gaza-bound aid flotilla earlier this year is probably the hardest job he has ever done.

"I can't think of a harder one that I've had," he said.

"I think it's the inherent complexity of it, that's the problem."

Nine pro-Palestinian activists were killed when Israeli marines stormed a Turkish ship in May as a flotilla moved to breach the blockade to supply aid to residents in Gaza.

New Zealander Nicola Enchmarch was among the passengers and crew who were captured and detained in Israeli custody before being deported.

Overnight United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon announced the four-member panel, to be chaired by Sir Geoffrey with outgoing Colombian President Alvaro Uribe as vice-chairman, plus one Israeli and one Turkish member.

The identities of the members from Turkey and Israel have not been given, but the panel is due to begin work on August 10 and submit a first progress report by mid-September.

Sir Geoffrey said the inquiry could take as long as six months. It would be based in New York and he could not say if visits to the Middle East would be required.

In fact he could not give any detail about procedures or substance of the inquiry: "It's so sensitive and it's necessary to have a degree of detachment here to avoid arriving at any conclusions about anything for the moment".

He would head over to New York this week.

Sir Geoffrey said he felt honoured by the appointment.

"It is some sort of recognition that New Zealand can play a useful role in this sort of thing and I think that's good."

His family was "fine" with his involvement and he declined to comment on whether he may become a target.

"I don't think security matters should ever be discussed."

Israel's decision to back the panel was unexpected as it had for weeks insisted it would not cooperate with any international probe and instead launched two internal inquiries.

In the end following contacts and consultations with a seven-member Israeli ministerial forum Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agreed, saying his country had nothing to hide.

Sir Geoffrey said that was an achievement for Mr Ban: "Diplomacy is the art of the possible and he's brought it off".....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/3984251/Former-NZ-PM-to-lead-Gaza-flotilla-attack-probe

[irishspirit]

Israel's military broke international laws during its raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla, a UN Human Rights Council investigation says.

The three-member panel said Israel's military response to the flotilla was "disproportionate" and also "betrayed an unacceptable level of brutality

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11393836

[irishspirit]

It is about time the UN has made this type of statement against Isreal, this needs to be lifted, there are people dieing there whilst we sit back and do nothing.

[Rozzy]

The U.N. is run by thugs and despots that are Jew haters, their judgement against Israel is most certainly impartial and honest!

[Operator]

The U.N. is run by thugs and despots that are Jew haters

judgement ... ?

[Zook]

Hi Operator,


judgement ... ?

Well, let's not be hasty with our friend, Rozzy. I mean, he does get part of it right ... the UN is run by thugs and despots.

The comment about Jew haters is, of course, without foundation (and not even a bottomless pit to perch a foundation on). When someone cries "Jew haters" or "AntiSemitism", it's because they've been trained to do so. Dependent thinking in other words. So it becomes a debate between dependent thinkers vs independent thinkers, i.e. no debate at all. Rozzy will have to first escape the gravitational pull of Zionist ideology before he becomes useful to the pursuit of truth, to humanity itself, and less importantly, to intelligent discourse.

Having said that, the U.N. is yet another front organization for the global banking elites and their subcontracted powerbrokers in all the major and minor nations, China, India, Russia included. The power of (fiat) money had long ago eradicated the functional concept of sovereign nations (albeit not the appearance, i.e. the formal concept remains). So what the UN represents is not a genuine council of nations (specifically, elder nations), but a staged event akin to a G7, G8, or G20 summit, but with a degree of permanence. If it is required that Israel and its ZOG proxy, the US, play antagonist and the rest of the world, Palestinian proxies ... then it will be so.

No one ever gets punished; but the appearance of tragedy and moral rectitude is kept alive for the justice-starved plebeians, who, after the popcorn runs out, go home again to the comforts of their manifold extra-Gaza existence. That is virtually all what the UN represents, e.g. a stage to hold dramatic plays scripted by the big playwrights. For the Gazans (the big victims), there is no justice nor hope for justice, merely never-ending victimhood. For the Israeli occupiers, there is no punishment or spectre of punishment, merely a never-ending opportunity to occupy and commit crime. For the global bankster elites?? One more pen to fence the minds. Perhaps their most valuable pen; after all, most of the other pens have fallen apart (e.g. IRA/Loyalists; Tamil_Tigers/Sinhalese; the Berlin Wall and two Germanies; Sandanista/Contra; Hutu/Tutsi; etc. ... and of course, the half-century Cold War between two evil superEmpires). With most of the holding pens gone, where will the righteous minds find their pound of flesh?

But I'll be remiss if I didn't mention the good news. Much of the world has now discovered that the emperor has no clothes! So let's keep pounding on those truth drums!


Cheers
Uncle Zook

[irishspirit]

The U.N. is run by thugs and despots that are Jew haters, their judgement against Israel is most certainly impartial and honest!

Rozzy,

Isreal is the UN's creation! Had the UN been ruin by the Jew haters that you say, Isreal would have been brought to boot for their War Crimes and their crimes against Humanity along time ago.

They would also have their massive stockpile of Nuclear Bombs checked and brought in along time ago.

I would suggest that you check your facts before making such a harsh statement.

Peace

Irish

[PathWalker]

It is about time the UN has made this type of statement against Isreal, this needs to be lifted, there are people dieing there whilst we sit back and do nothing.

Dear friend,

The UN is a useless, organization. Driven by TPTB to voice their political agenda.
While most of the African population is hungry, and thousands of people die daily from famine and infectious diseases. The UN is occupied about that hot spot. That is marginal in the scope to the world civil rights problems.

The UN is very occupied with the issues that are under the political agenda. With some capital to gain.
There is no discussion in the UN about human rights violation in the US, Iraq, Turkey, Russia, China, N.Korea and others.
The spot light is on Israel and the Arabs. Which are not hungry and not dying daily from infectious diseases (see the current official Palestinian agenda in here: http://www.maannews.net/eng/).

If you want to learn something about human rights then study Amnesty International reports about the Israeli Arabs hot spot (Page 254 - http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=254)
You can learn that these days Palestinians are oppressed mostly by Palestinians, despite the 2006 war in Gazza and the siege.
Amnesty International is not friendly to Israel by no means.

If you really care about civil rights, the UN is not the place.

[PathWalker]

irishspirit,

Israel is the UN's creation!

Israel as any other nation created by the people who founded them.
The UN is a powerless, political tool for TPTB. No more then that.
No Justice, nor enlightened.
Yet useless and powerless.

[irishspirit]

Israel as any other nation created by the people who founded them.
The UN is a powerless, political tool for TPTB. No more then that.
No Justice, nor enlightened.
Yet useless and powerless.

I understand your poibt! However, this says otherwise.

In November 1947, the United Nations voted in favor of the partition of Palestine, proposing the creation of a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a UN-administered Jerusalem.[16] Partition was accepted by Zionist leaders but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to civil war. Israel declared independence on 14 May 1948 and neighboring Arab states attacked the next day. Since then, Israel has fought a series of wars with neighboring Arab states,[17] and in consequence occupied territories, including the West Bank, Sinai Peninsula, Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights, beyond those delineated in the 1949 Armistice Agreements. Israel has signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, but efforts by elements within both parties to diplomatically solve the problem have so far only met with limited success and some of Israel's international borders remain in dispute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Irish

[PathWalker]

Greetings irishspirit,

The UN votes are just reflections of political moves.
The UN was never able to stop nor prevent a war. With one exception in East Timor, where the Australian aremy disguised as the UN stopped genocide.
The UN was never able to assist in establishing nor found any state.

The UN is used for public debate and political confrontation arena.

The local people, are those who make the difference. Therefore Palestine/Israel was in civil war in 1948. The British empire wanted out gracefully. The 7 regional Arab states wanted to conquer as much as they could (nothing to do with the local population). Even Iraq took part in the 1949 invasion.
And the Israeli problem started.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I suppose we could argue that we all signed up for these experiences, and to learn from lessons...

Something keeps nagging me... I don't think this is how it is supposed to be!

From where I'm standing I am greatful (4 kids) ... from the other side something else kicks in...and I QUESTION!

By design it might be...if that is the case then whoever designed this has taken away the freewill of the oppressed...does that make it right???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byn4Byyya48

viking

[Olam]

Wow, these expressions are beautiful in a haunting way. Thank god the children have acsess to coloring crayons. Its a great therapy in many ways, especially when you see the vibrant colors they use. To me, the colors express humanity and hope through the very violent images drawn.
These have their place in a museum if you ask me, they convey as much emotion or even more than any Rembrant or expressionist painting.
They are the pure expression of emotion put on paper using colors and motifs.

[Banshee]

A most inspiring man. A long video, but well worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAwhsu-Gg3M

[Gypsy Woman]

Ken O'Keefe wrote: Israel has intentionally dropped two large bombs on the AL-Qerem Medical Supplies Factory in Jabalya, Gaza. The building is totally destroyed, as was all of the medical supplies and equipement. Gaza is already in crisis mode for lack of medical supplies, this bombing will mean even the most basic of medical needs will continue to be impossible to satisfy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceuO9JtLZIg

[PathWalker]

Not so sure what we see in the video is an attack. The media is very much manipulated in this region.
Checking on the Palestinian press (Maan (http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewPage.aspx?CID=NEW) and Al Jazzeara (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/)) this incident is not mentions.
It could be recycled old new. Or outright propaganda.

While checking the Israel press I found there was a retaliation bombing yesterday night.

The IAF targeted three terror activity sites in the Gaza Strip. Over forty mortar shells, Qassam rockets and Grad rockets have been fired into Israel since 2011 http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/today/2011/02/0902.htm


Eight people were lightly injured in an Israel Air Force strike in the northern Gaza Strip, Palestinian medical sources reported Tuesday night.


The Israel Defense Forces confirmed that the planes bombed two targets in the Strip and a tunnel in northern Gaza, in response to the firing of mortar shells at Israel on Tuesday. (Elior Levy and new agencies) http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4025911,00.html

[ktlight]

Ihab Keheal, head of the justice department’s medical examiner’s office in the Gaza Strip, has stated that examinations conducted by his office have unveiled evidence indicating that the Israeli army used white phosphorous and other internationally prohibited weapons in its latest operation in Gaza.

Making his comments in a press statement released Monday, Keheal said that the bodies of Palestinians killed in the latest escalations were torn apart and charred to the extent that they were barely recognizable.

source
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/israel-army-use-white-phosphorous-in.html

[DawgBone]

It certainly looks like current warfare is designed not just to kill your enemy, but to kill in the most horrific way.

This supports the idea of trans-dimensional, vampiric beings who feed off terror, suffering, blood sacrifice and death.

Endless war, endless blood sacrifice. This has to stop.

[ktlight]

The UN Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict found that Israel committed violations of human rights and international law, war crimes and possible crimes against humanity before, during, and after "Operation Cast Lead," Israel's Dec. 2008 to Jan. 2009 onslaught against the Gaza Strip, which killed more than 1,400 Palestinians.

Even before the fact-finding mission was established, and ever since, the Obama Administration and Congress have worked hard to discredit the UN mission and prevent the international community from acting upon its findings.

Now, the House of Representatives is upping the ante by considering a resolution to withhold payment of U.S. dues to the UN until it retracts the final report of the fact-finding mission.

Make no mistake about it: this is part of a deliberate, concerted strategy by the U.S. to throw around its diplomatic weight, shielding Israel from accountability for any outrage it inflicts on Palestinians, no matter how grave.

source
http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=2961

[K626]

"NOAM CHOMSKY: Mr. Mandell will confirm, there was an explicit condition for this debate. That is, that neither participant try to evade the issue by deceitful allegations about the other. So, I, therefore, congratulate Mr. Dershowitz on having made a true statement. I was a counselor at Massad. About the rest, there happens to be an ample record in print, or if you like, you can ask a question, but I'll keep to the topic and the rules.

The topic is: Where do we go from here? The answer to that is largely up to us. Evidently, it requires some understanding of how we got here. The question of where we're going now has a clear answer. It's given accurately by the leading academic specialist on the occupation, Harvard's Sara Roy, as she writes that under the terms of disengagement, Gazans are virtually sealed within the Strip, while West Bankers, their lands dismembered by relentless Israeli settlement, will continue to be penned into fragmented geographic spaces, isolated behind and between walls and barriers.

Her judgment is affirmed by Israel's leading specialist on the West Bank, Meron Benvenisti, who writes that 'the separation walls snaking through the West Bank will create three Bantustans (his words): north, central and south, all virtually separated from East Jerusalem, the center of Palestinian commercial, cultural and political life. And he adds that this, what he calls the soft transfer from Jerusalem, that is an unavoidable result of the separation wall, might achieve its goal. Quoting still, 'the goal of disintegration of the Palestinian community, after many earlier attempts, have failed.' 'The human disaster being planned,' he continues, 'will turn hundreds of thousands of people into a sullen community, hostile, and nurturing a desire for revenge.' So, another example of the sacrifice of security through expansion that's been going on for a long time."

Long but a good read.


http://www.chomsky.info/debates/20051129.htm


K

[loveandgratitude]

ISRAEL"S DISREGARD FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW.
NOTE: Some of these images are disturbing.

http://track-cell-phones.com/israel-targetting-ambulances-women-and-children-in-gaza/

YOU TUBE had blocked viewing of this video, so it can only be accessed in the above link.

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Videos of israel war crimes

and the US continues to give 46% of its foreign USAID to warmonger Israel. This is how you tax money is used.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbryU5jskg&feature=player_embedded

[Lord Sidious]

The war god smiles and peoples hearts bleed.
This madness has to stop.

[Krullenjongen]

Wow it just look like the main stream media.
Bringing bias and unbalanced news.

Did everyone forget that these clashes between the IDF and Hamas were preceded by the firing of an anti-tank grenade at an Israeli schoolbus???

[Lord Sidious]

Wow it just look like the main stream media.
Bringing bias and unbalanced news.

Did everyone forget that these clashes between the IDF and Hamas were preceded by the firing of an anti-tank grenade at an Israeli schoolbus???

It is a tit for tat going back to the year dot.
It didn't start yesterday.
But it needs to end tomorrow.

[Krullenjongen]

Wow it just look like the main stream media.
Bringing bias and unbalanced news.

Did everyone forget that these clashes between the IDF and Hamas were preceded by the firing of an anti-tank grenade at an Israeli schoolbus???

It is a tit for tat going back to the year dot.
It didn't start yesterday.
But it needs to end tomorrow.

Yes i agree with that but it does not seem likely now that Fatah reconciled with Hamas (which is unlikely to cancel their goal of the destruction of Israel) en is going for a unity goverment.
And then we have the egyptians wanting to cancel the peace treaty with Israel.

[Lord Sidious]

Wow it just look like the main stream media.
Bringing bias and unbalanced news.

Did everyone forget that these clashes between the IDF and Hamas were preceded by the firing of an anti-tank grenade at an Israeli schoolbus???

It is a tit for tat going back to the year dot.
It didn't start yesterday.
But it needs to end tomorrow.

Yes i agree with that but it does not seem likely now that Fatah reconciled with Hamas (which is unlikely to cancel their goal of the destruction of Israel) en is going for a unity goverment.
And then we have the egyptians wanting to cancel the peace treaty with Israel.

They are building up for the big one, soon after the temple is rebuilt on Mount Moriah.
Not long now.

[Rocky_Shorz]

one day a King called forward 2 mothers fighting over a baby...


the King sits wondering what to do now that both sides say cut it in half...



she is a pretty special child, maybe I should keep her for myself... ;)

[ktlight]

His political advisor confirms Abbas is to go to Gaza before month's end, but Israel puts a wrench, blocking Fatah’s envoy from crossing into Gaza three days before the reconciliation agreement is to be signed in Egypt

Abbas's personal envoy for national reconciliation has been prevented from entering Gaza strip from Ramallah Sunday morning through the Erez crossing. This is, in fact, a second for Mohamed Abou Tir, Abbas's envoy.

As an alternative, Abou Tir is considering entering through the Rafah crossing on the Egyptian Gaza border.

Abou Tir's visit was expected to precede the signing of the national reconciliation agreement to be signed in Egypt on Wednesday 4 May to put the Palestinian house in order.

Meanwhile, Palestinian presidential political advisor, Nemr Hamad, confirmed Abbas's intention to go on with his planned visit to the Strip before the end of this month.

Abbas is expected to discuss all problems related to the formation of the new Palestinian government during his visit, as well as means to protect and resolve any blocks that might emerge for the agreement, Palestinian news agency, Qudsnet stated.

Interestingly, Saeb Erekat, a member of the executive committee of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation declared that the PLO is undergoing contacts with world powers to ensure international support and legalities needed for the new government to be formed as the agreement states.

source
http://uruknet.info/?p=m77328&hd=&size=1&l=e

[ktlight]

The Cast Lead Operation commander speaks bluntly on the Israel's view of Gaza as an 'ideal training zone' for its soldiers and weaponry

May 4, 2011

Israel used the war in Gaza in 2008 as a training opportunity for its armed forces to test new weapons, designate Israeli military chief of staff has revealed.

In a speech at the Begin-Sadat Center of Strategic Affairs at Bar-Ilan University, Major General Yoav Galant said that Gaza was an "ideal training zone" as it lacks a strong enemy that could inflict serious casualties upon Israel.

Galant was the operation commander of Israel's Cast Lead Operation on Gaza between December 2008 and January 2009 in which more than 1600 Palestinians were killed. Most of the fatalities were among women and children.

Under his command, the Israeli armed forces openly used white phosphorus shells fired from 155mm artillery guns in the crowded Gaza Strip which were .

"Although Israel's military capability is much stronger than [that of] Hamas, we consider them as our fiercest enemy," he said.

Galant added that Palestinians in the Gaza Strip had improved their rocket firing capabilities, asserting that firing rockets "isn’t only an act of terror, it is a challenge to Israel's very existence."

With regards to the wave of Arab uprisings, Galant expressed his view that that none of the ongoing revolutions in the Middle East have any positive short or long-term potential for the future of Israel’s security.

Galant expects that the region will represent a major instability threat as in his opinion it will be ruled by radical "Islamic extremists."

source
http://uruknet.info/?p=m77433&hd=&size=1&l=e

[Lord Sidious]

Great, the madness deepens.
As if not enough hearts bleed in the region.

[777]

I'm really holding back from an anti-Israel post here that could be percieved as racist to the untrained eye. This holocaust disgusts me.

[Krullenjongen]

What new weapons were tested than?
The article only speaks of white phosphorus which is in my opinion a terrible weapon but not new by any definition.
So what is that terrible weapon that they were supposedly testing that the head of this article implies???

[Lord Sidious]

I'm really holding back from an anti-Israel post here that could be percieved as racist to the untrained eye. This holocaust disgusts me.

There are many in israel who are sad about this too.

[777]

I'm really holding back from an anti-Israel post here that could be percieved as racist to the untrained eye. This holocaust disgusts me.

There are many in israel who are sad about this too.

Absolutely mon ami. Important to remember that.......

[Lord Sidious]

I'm really holding back from an anti-Israel post here that could be percieved as racist to the untrained eye. This holocaust disgusts me.

There are many in israel who are sad about this too.

Absolutely mon ami. Important to remember that.......

It is sort of like the government of the us corp, the ones who suffer it in a big way are the Americans.
Same with the israeli corporation. The israelis of good character suffer because of it too.
That singer I love, Ofra Haza for example, I saw an interview where she was asked about a tour of the middle east.
She said that she would love to, she had gotten invites, but because her passport was israeli, she couldn't get into those nations.

[loveandgratitude]

Buses will depart from Cairo’s Tahrir Square at noon on 14 May and then meet up with more protesters in Suez.

In the wake of youth-led uprisings across the Arab world, several international activist groups are calling for a “march of millions” into Gaza. The march is scheduled for 15 May, the 63rd anniversary of the establishment of the state of Israel – commonly referred to in Arabic as the Nakba, or catastrophe.

The march seems to have resulted from simultaneous calls for a large initiative to mark the anniversary made by several unrelated international activist groups, including some inside the Palestinian territories. Since its announcement, the initiative has been described by various online groups as “The 2011 March of Return,” “The Palestinian Refugees’ Revolution,” and, in some cases, “The Third Palestinian Intifada.”

The number of similar groups, both online and on the ground, multiplied shortly after Facebook, at the request of the Israeli government, shut down one of the earliest Palestinian-based pages calling for the march.

In Egypt, the movement is being organized by a coalition of groups, including the seasoned pro-democracy movement Kefaya, a new pro-Palestinian group called Kollana Makawma (or We are All the Resistance) and two contingents of hardcore football enthusiasts, or Ultras.

Buses will depart from Cairo’s Tahrir Square at noon on 14 May and then meet up with more protesters in Suez. Planners say they hope to reach Gaza by the evening, march on the border crossing, and participate in the marches and protests inside the Palestinian territory scheduled for the following morning.

Though many of the logistics of the trip remain unclear, activists say they are not concerned about the feasibility.

Besides the march, protests are also scheduled to be held outside the Israeli embassy.

Egyptian activists are using the opportunity to push for local demands regarding Israel as well. “Through this initiative, we are calling for the cessation of gas exports to Israel and the release of all Palestinian prisoners held in Egyptian jails,” explains Salma Shukrallah, an Egyptian and founding member of the Kollana Makawma movement, which is helping spearhead the local campaign.

Other demands agreed upon by the coalition of participating Egyptian groups include the permanent reopening of the Rafah border, the normalization of Egypt-Gaza trade relations, and the cancellation of the QIZ (Qualifying Industrial Zones) agreement between Egypt and Israel.

First and foremost among their demands, and one shared by all international groups participating in the march, is the “assertion of the right of exiled Palestinians to return to their homeland,” as stated on the press statement by the Egyptian coalition.

“The former [Egyptian] regime was largely responsible for driving and enforcing the sanctions on Gaza, even when international agreements called on Egypt to keep the Rafah border open,” said Halim Heneish, a founding member of the Youth Movement for Justice and Freedom.

Heneish believes that after the toppling of the former regime it is now possible to achieve the coalition’s goals.

Moreover, Heneish insists that the call for the liberation of Gaza will, in a way, help ensure the formation of an Egyptian government that represents Egyptians’ concern for and allegiance to the Palestinian people.

“The Zionist government,” he says, referring to the current Israeli regime, “will never be satisfied with the formation of an Egyptian government that properly, and truthfully, represents the Egyptian people since, by definition, such a government would not be an ally to Israel, or willing to meet its demands.”

“Israel is the source of the counter-revolution now taking place in Egypt,” Heneish said, reiterating his belief that the Israeli government will do whatever it takes to prevent the formation of a regime that reflects Egypt’s largely anti-Israel constituents.

Meanwhile, plans for the march do not seem to have been affected by the news of a reconciliation deal between Fatah and Hamas, signed last Tuesday in Cairo.

“The Nakba is marked by commemorative events every year, all round the world,” Shukrallah said. “Due to the recent revolutions, people expected this year’s commemoration to be larger and more effective.”

In response to suggestions that the march to Gaza might complicate or hamper the reconciliation, which stipulates the formation of a new technocratic government and could potentially lead to the revival of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), Shukrallah said, “There’s always a reason to criticize or delay initiatives such as [the march]. People have different opinions.”

“When people voice their demands and put pressure on the ruling powers, it makes a difference when the time comes for political changes,” Shukrallah said. “If anything, this march will hasten and assert Palestinian unity.”

But the success of the 15 May march is far from assured. Activists say they are unsure “whether or not we’ll be granted entry into Gaza.”

Meanwhile, Israel has received news of the march with growing concern. Israel National News, the online version of Arutz Sheva radio, has described the march as an “assault” with the intention of “intimidating and embarrassing Israel.” Last year, a flotilla of ships bringing international aid to Gaza was attacked by Israeli commandos, leaving nine pro-Palestinian activists dead.

The online news source also reported that in anticipation of the march, Egypt’s army has heightened its alert and intensified its forces in areas around the border, reportedly planning to seal off all entries to North and South Sinai.

Meanwhile, even some who are sympathetic to the cause question the potential of the 15 May march.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/430027
Gaza in Plain Language—Revisited. Honoring the March to Gaza.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxdaHM7rgag&feature=player_embedded

[Zepheriah]

Can't say i agree with this action.

The palestinians say its their land and the Jews stole it, yet they stole it off the Jews in the first place. Who has more right? Neither and both.

But, from a strictly moral view, We British promised the Jews their homeland, and with some help from the like minded Yanks we set up Isreal. Its pretty clear to me that if you set up a state, your responsible for it. So it should fall to the British and Americans to defend Israel.

Of course life isn't ever that simple is it. I know a good few Israeli's and they are amongst my favoured friends. They are kind, grateful, compassionate and are by and large morally superior people to most western nations. Of course, that is the pople, not the state.

Its taken abotu 3000 years to create this problem, a march and some shouting isn't going to help it in any way, infact, it smore likely to get a good many innocent people on either side of the fence killed. Oh and factor in the uttelry retarded "peace flotilla" planned for around the same time..........gonna be a fun summer

[loveandgratitude]

Can't say i agree with this action.

The palestinians say its their land and the Jews stole it, yet they stole it off the Jews in the first place. Who has more right? Neither and both.

But, from a strictly moral view, We British promised the Jews their homeland, and with some help from the like minded Yanks we set up Isreal. Its pretty clear to me that if you set up a state, your responsible for it. So it should fall to the British and Americans to defend Israel.

Of course life isn't ever that simple is it. I know a good few Israeli's and they are amongst my favoured friends. They are kind, grateful, compassionate and are by and large morally superior people to most western nations. Of course, that is the pople, not the state.

Its taken abotu 3000 years to create this problem, a march and some shouting isn't going to help it in any way, infact, it smore likely to get a good many innocent people on either side of the fence killed. Oh and factor in the uttelry retarded "peace flotilla" planned for around the same time..........gonna be a fun summer

Wow, I can see this is going to turn into an epic. Too tired to go into it in detail. Will wait until tomorrow. We will have to take a look at history here. Just to kick it off, the Jews never owned the land in the beginning. Then take a look at the Balforth Declaration - the most criminal act in modern history. Any way, will continue tomorrow.

[Zepheriah]

We could always argue the semantics of land owner ship :P

Neither of them have any right to claim it in that sense, probably the best way to look at it. Neither have a moral right to claim it given the last few thousand years of hate and immoral action.

I'm not for or against either side, like i said, i have Israeli friends, and they are the salt of the earth, but i don't agree with their state's progroms of hateful action, and as apoint, neither do they. I have deep compassion for the palestinians too, i think its easy for the western world to ignore them, imagine if they were kicked out of their homes and had to watch them bulldozed, but the palestinians also lose their morality with the acts they perpetrate in kind.

It is the proverbial powder keg and everyones lighting their own fuses, lets just wait and see who's ignites the keg.

[Lord Sidious]

We could indeed speak of land ownership, but that won't solve the issues.
''They'' want you to argue about the ''facts'' so that you can justify each side.
Meantime, innocents die.
So, the past is gone, dead as a doornail.
Let us walk hand in hand into the future, whilst letting go of the past and the disputes that took place in it.

[Zepheriah]

So, the past is gone, dead as a doornail.
Let us walk hand in hand into the future, whilst letting go of the past and the disputes that took place in it.

Couldn't agree more my Sithy friend.

[Davidallany]

Let us walk hand in hand into the future, whilst letting go of the past and the disputes that took place in it.
Agreed 100%. I can't say the same thing about those who identify with their country's history or their group of people's history. Aside from actual causes of events getting acknowledged and accepted as they are without attachment to the 5 W's. I think we are all one family as long as we are Humans and the land belongs to all of us, there are no countries, borders or groups of people except in the mind of the beholder. But if we must say that there are differences in people' habits and attitudes or self images then we can also say that such things exist even among families. If you go to a Buddhist monastery and live there for a while you'll meet different people from allover the world vibrating at a similar level. Thus transcending physical conceits.

[ktlight]

Israeli forces backed by tanks and bulldozers have crossed into the Gaza Strip, destroying Palestinian farmlands in north of the enclave.


Israeli soldiers apparently entered the Palestinian territory from Karni crossing on Wednesday and advanced hundreds of meters toward the east of Gaza City.

According to Press TV's correspondent in Gaza, Israeli soldiers dug a series of holes in the area and filled them with explosives.

Israeli soldiers then blew up the explosives, causing loud explosions in the area, our correspondent added.

Israeli officials claim that the troops were searching and destroying "possible tunnels" in the area that could be used by Palestinian resistance fighters to enter Israeli posts and capture Israeli soldiers.

But analysts believe the Israeli attack aimed at provoking Palestinian fighters into firing on Israeli troops, which could have escalated the situation.

It was the first Israeli attack on Gaza after the two main Palestinian factions, Hamas and Fatah, signed a unity deal.

Israel has repeatedly voiced anger at the reconciliation accord signed between the two Palestinian groups which aimed at forming a Palestinian unity government.

Hamas, which controls Gaza, and Fatah which rules the West Bank, have been at odds since the Palestinian resistance movement of Hamas won the Palestinian parliamentary elections in January 2006.

Differences between the rival groups peaked in June 2007 when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in a bid to "foil a coup plot" by some Fatah elements.

Fatah in response sacked the Hamas government and set up a parallel cabinet in Ramallah.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/179435.html

[Zepheriah]

Concepts of ownership wether of an ideal, land or object are the single cause of human strife.

However, it is so ingrained upon our species that there really isn't a lot we can do about the world of possesion except learn to get along with solid values. Shamefully, the majority would rather be blind and ignore the problems they help perpetuate.

[Lord Sidious]

Great, so both sides are winding their own up for the next round.

[Lord Sidious]

Concepts of ownership wether of an ideal, land or object are the single cause of human strife.

However, it is so ingrained upon our species that there really isn't a lot we can do about the world of possesion except learn to get along with solid values. Shamefully, the majority would rather be blind and ignore the problems they help perpetuate.

It is power that is the sole cause, the money and land are symptoms of this.

[Zepheriah]

It is power that is the sole cause, the money and land are symptoms of this.

In my view, the "power" comes from teh beholders view of implied ownership of "X", either way, its a false paradigm

[Lord Sidious]

It is power that is the sole cause, the money and land are symptoms of this.

In my view, the "power" comes from teh beholders view of implied ownership of "X", either way, its a false paradigm

Money, land, politics are all only tools to gain power, power is all to them.
Trust me on this.

[Zepheriah]

It is power that is the sole cause, the money and land are symptoms of this.

In my view, the "power" comes from teh beholders view of implied ownership of "X", either way, its a false paradigm

Money, land, politics are all only tools to gain power, power is all to them.
Trust me on this.

Deep semantics :)

To get the money, land et al, one must imply ownership over them. Therefore, the delusion of ownership is the basis of "power".

I think we're going to be chasing each others tails for days with this one :P

[Lord Sidious]

It is power that is the sole cause, the money and land are symptoms of this.

In my view, the "power" comes from teh beholders view of implied ownership of "X", either way, its a false paradigm

Money, land, politics are all only tools to gain power, power is all to them.
Trust me on this.

Deep semantics :)

To get the money, land et al, one must imply ownership over them. Therefore, the delusion of ownership is the basis of "power".

I think we're going to be chasing each others tails for days with this one :P

Chicken and egg my friend, chicken and egg.

[ktlight]

Egyptian authorities on Friday blocked access to the Sinai peninsula, where it stepped up security, to prevent a march from Cairo to Gaza, an AFP correspondent said.

The march was due to leave from Cairo's Tahrir Square on Saturday to protest the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land, and call for the right of return of Palestinian refugees and the release of all Palestinian prisoners.

"Peace Bridge,"one of the main access routes to Sinai from mainland Egypt, has been closed to all but residents of the peninsula.

The army also stepped up security around the peninsula, a security official said.

The march is timed to coincide with the anniversary of the day Israel was established, often referred to in Arabic as the "Nakba," or "catastrophe."

Meanwhile, dozens of protesters gathered outside the Israeli embassy in central Cairo on Friday to demand the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and the severance of ties with the Jewish state.

"Millions of martyrs to Jerusalem," the protesters chanted as army and police officers stepped up security around the building housing the embassy.

source
http://uruknet.info/?p=m77682&hd=&size=1&l=e

[Gustav]

Probably it will be seized upon by others who will profit from it. But the anger that is expressed over the policies of the Israeli government, parts of the Israeli government or forces behind the Israeli government concerning the Palestinian inhabitants is genuine. It still amazes me that people who fundamentally believe in the same god and the same religious principle let themselves be divided in this way.. To see the army blocking such a march goes to show only the puppet has changed in Egypt, not the policy.

[Lord Sidious]

It isn't necessarily a bad thing.
At least they can't get anywhere near israeli forces.
Could you imagine what would happen if even one protester was injured by them?

[Gustav]

If it were an invasion yes. That indeed is an angle I forgot to look at in my thinking towards surpressing/halting a demonstration against Israel ;)

[ktlight]

Egyptian police use live ammunition to disperse a massive rally outside Israel's embassy in the capital Cairo, wounding more than 350 protesters.


The violence erupted on Monday after riot police fired tear gas and live rounds to disperse the protesters who broke through a barricade outside the embassy.

One of the wounded is said to be in critical condition. Twenty protesters have also been arrested.

The protesters set fire to an Israeli flag, called for the expulsion of Israel's ambassador and also the closure of the embassy.

On Sunday, thousands rallied in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo.

Many among the crowd also voiced frustration with the ruling military council which earlier prevented a scheduled convoy of protesters from reaching Gaza.

On Sunday, the demonstrators gathered in different cities across the Middle East to remember the Day of Nakba, which marks the 63rd anniversary of the Israeli occupation of Palestine in 1948.

Egyptians have frequently called on their military rulers to abandon Israel and lift the blockade on the besieged Gaza Strip.

Under the US-backed Mubarak regime, Egypt consistently served Tel Aviv's interests in the region by helping to impose a crippling blockade on the impoverished Strip after the democratically-elected Hamas government took control of the territory in 2007.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/180217.html

[Lord Sidious]

Getting yourself killed and/or starting another war isn't a good way to remember Al Naqba.
I think the army did them a favour, stopping the protesters from entering Sinai.
I wonder who is stirring up the crowd around the embassy?
The madness goes on and the thirst for blood reaches a fever pitch.

[Muzz]

BREAKING NEWS: Humanitarian Ship to Gaza Running out of Food and Water

by Michel Chossudovsky and Julie Lévesque

LATEST UPDATE, Tuesday, 24 May 2011, 7.13am EDT, 13.13 local time

According to our latest communication (satellite phone) from the ship, the boat is still stranded in territorial waters.

The Egyptian port authorities have not received instructions to allow the ship to berth, despite the decision of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs which was communicated to the Malaysian embassy. According to sources, it would appear that the decision is being blocked by Egypt's Military Intelligence, in consultation with Tel Aviv anbd Washington.

Meanwhile the ship has become a de facto prison. It is running out of water and food.

"Our water supply is totally finished. We are now using sea water to clean ourselves, flush toilet, and wash dishes. We are only using half a bottle of mineral water for final cleansing of cooking utensils, after boiling it to get rid of the oil and dirt.

Each member of the crew and passenger must get their own pail of sea water each time they use the toilet and to flush it. We are now rationing our drinking water supply which consists of limited bottles of mineral water. However, the spirit and morale of the team is high and we are resolute to face all eventualities and to defeat and overcome any schemes that may prevent the cargo from reaching Gaza."

UPDATE, Monday 23 May, at 13.30pm EDT, 20.30pm local time

The Spirit of Rachel Corrie is back in Egyptian territorial waters. The crew and passengers are safe. The Malaysian Embassy in Cairo has advised that the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has granted permission to the ship to berth in the port of Al Arish tomorrow May 24th and unload its cargo.

This decision by Egypt's Foreign Minister Nabil Al Arabi, which remains to be confirmed, is of fundamental significance. It is an important step towards breaking the Gaza blockade.

Mr. Al Arabi had indicated almost a month ago his resolve to open the border at Rafah and end the Gaza blockade.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24916

[ktlight]

After 4 years under total lockdown, Gaza's 1.5 million residents finally have a gateway to the outside world. Egypt's dropped the stringent security that Israel insisted on for its border crossing with the blockaded region. Israel's long struggled to keep Gaza's borders watertight, depriving people there in the hope of forcing Hamas out of power. Human rights groups cite the massive humanitarian cost - from food shortages, to the sick being unable to leave for simple treatment. But, as Paula Slier reports, a lifeline for Palestinians is a real headache for Tel Aviv.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEeKWaMD7Go

[Lord Sidious]

Finally, the Felestini have someone do something positive for them.
I just hope this doesn't become a door for more stupidity.
The irony of this is that if the border was open and the felestini had some dignity and respect, they wouldn't have such an urge to attack the kibbutz near them.
I just want the madness to end.
Insh'allah.


Thanks for posting that Ktlight, much appreciated.

[ktlight]

FYI:


The Israeli Ministry of Infrastructure has demanded permission from the gas company Nobel Energy to start working in developing the natural gas field that was found off the Gaza Strip shoreline, under the pretext that Israel fears gas shortages in the coming year.

In a press statement on Monday, the Israeli Ministry of Infrastructre said that it officially requested permission from Nobel Energy to submit a work programme to dig and develop gas fields by July.

The ministry explained that the reason official permission has been sought before digging the oil is because the field is close to the territorial waters of the Gaza Strip.

Israel gets natural gas from Egypt through an agreement in which Israel pays less than internationally recognised prices to Egypt. After the Egyptian uprising and the toppling of Hosni Mubarak, the Egyptian people demanded that the channeling of gas to Israel would be stopped until a new agreement could be reached, so that the Egyptian people could benefit first from their natural resources.

A large concentration of natural gas was found off the Gaza shoreline, and the British Gas group along with Lebanese partners were given the right to dig there and sell the gas during an agreement wthat was signed in November 1999 with the Palestinian Authority.

The British company had already set up two gas wells called Gaza Marine 1 and Gaza Marine 2. According to the British Gas group, the natural reservoir offf the Gaza shore is estimated at 1.5 trillion cubic meters, at a net worth of around $4 billion US dollars.

However, Chossudovsky, a Canadian economist, estimated that the amount of gas in Palestine is much more, adding that it could make the future Palestinian state as rich as Kuwait, due to the average population in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Nobel Energy is a US based company based in New York that digs oil and natural gas internationally.

Dmitry Dliani, Fatah top official, commented on the Israeli Ministry of Infrastructure decision as a license to steal the Gaza gas, as part of Israeli attacks on Palestinian rights. Dliani demanded international protection for the Palestinian natural gas reservoir off the Gaza shore.

source
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25259

[ktlight]

FYI:


An unnamed high-ranking Israeli military source has warned against any potential seaborne attempt by pro-Palestinian activists to deliver humanitarian aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip.


"No ship will get into Gaza," the source was quoted by Reuters as saying in a warning directed against an aid flotilla, which is to set off for Gaza in the third week of June.

The Israeli source also threatened that "If the sea line is opened, then Gaza will be flooded with arms and rockets.”

The Freedom Flotilla II is organized by a coalition of pro-Palestinian groups, most of whom are based in Europe.

The mission is named after the first such mission, which Israel attacked on May 31, 2010, killing nine Turkish activists and injuring around 50 others.

The organizers of the new convoy say it will consist of around 15 vessels and over 1,000 activists.

The Israeli regime laid an economic siege on the Gaza Strip in June 2007 after the democratically-elected Hamas lawmakers took over the administration of the enclave.

The blockade has had a disastrous impact on the humanitarian and economic situation in the impoverished territory.

Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and their rights to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/185014.html

[ktlight]

FYI:


Adm. Eliezer Marom says only purpose of Gaza flotilla is to clash with IDF soldiers, create media provocation, and delegitimize Israel.

By Anshel Pfeffer

Israel Navy commander Adm. Eliezer Marom issued a stark warning on Sunday for the organizers of the Gaza flotilla intended to set sail at the end of the month.

"The Navy has prevented and will continue to prevent the arrival of the 'hate flotilla' whose only goals are to clash with IDF soldiers, create media provocation and to delegitimize the State of Israel," Marom cautioned, speaking during the Israel Navy Divers' Course concluding ceremony.

The Navy commander called on all parties involved to do everything they can to prevent the departure of what he called the "provocation flotilla."

He said that a number of figures in the international community have said "that a humanitarian crisis in Gaza is nonexistent, and that all supplies may enter Gaza via the land crossings in a coordinated manner."

Marom also added that the flotilla allows Hamas to get equipped with an unlimited amount of weapons in order to carry out terror acts on Israel.

On Friday, the Turkish organization IHH announced that the Mavi Marmara ship, on which nine Turkish activists were killed last May when it was intercepted by Israeli commandos on its way to Gaza, will not take part in the upcoming convoy.

Organizers of the flotilla expressed disappointment that the Turkish IHH will not take an active role in the convoy, which will still set sail without the Marmara later this month.

Meanwhile, the Israeli Arab Higher Monitoring Committee, which was supposed to discuss on Saturday the composition of its delegation for the flotilla, removed the item from its agenda in light of recent changes.

The committee said that it had been invited by the Turks to participate in the flotilla. Due to the IHH's cancellation, the number of participants from the Higher Monitoring Committee is expected to be reduced.

source
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-navy-commander-hate-flotilla-to-gaza-must-be-stopped-1.368579

[ktlight]

FYI:


In comments yesterday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton seemed to lay the ground – indeed almost provide a green light – for an Israeli military attack on the upcoming Gaza Freedom Flotilla, which will include the US Boat to Gaza.

Among the passengers aboard the American boat will be 87-year old Kindertransport survivor Hedy Epstein, and author and poet Alice Walker. In all it is expected that about 10 ships, carrying 1000 people from over 20 countries will take part.

Here’s what Clinton said in remarks at the State Department on 23 June:

Well, we do not believe that the flotilla is a necessary or useful effort to try to assist the people of Gaza. Just this week, the Israeli Government approved a significant commitment to housing in Gaza. There will be construction materials entering Gaza and we think that it’s not helpful for there to be flotillas that try to provoke actions by entering into Israeli waters and creating a situation in which the Israelis have the right to defend themselves.

Clinton must know that Gaza is not part of what any country recognizes as "sovereign" Israeli territory, and therefore neither are Gaza’s territorial waters. Any boats entering Gaza’s waters would not in fact be entering "Israeli waters" as Clinton claimed. Clinton also, presuming she is properly briefed rather than misled, must also know that last year Israel attacked the Gaza Freedom Flotilla when it was in international waters and GPS data showed that it was actually heading away from Israel.

By invoking Israel’s supposed "right to self-defense" against civilian boats trying to reach Gaza, we must understand that Clinton is telling Israel the United States will not stand in the way of another military attack.

And by citing Israel allowing construction materials into Gaza to make the case that the flotilla is "unnecessary" because "aid" can reach the Palestinian people in Gaza, Clinton is engaging in the ultimate obfuscation.

source to read more
http://uruknet.info/?p=m78933&hd=&size=1&l=e

[ktlight]

FYI:


The United States on Friday warned activists against plans to send a new aid flotilla to challenge Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip, saying it would be irresponsible and dangerous.

"Groups that seek to break Israel's maritime blockade of Gaza are taking irresponsible and provocative actions that risk the safety of their passengers," State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said in a statement, adding that there were established ways to move humanitarian aid to Gaza.

"We urge all those seeking to provide such assistance to the people of Gaza to use these mechanisms, and not to participate in actions like the planned flotilla," Nuland said.

Israel on Wednesday said it had warned the United Nations that a new aid flotilla -- which activists say could depart from European ports in coming days -- could result in "dangerous consequences.

Israel has made clear it will prevent any new flotilla from reaching Gaza. A year ago, nine Turkish activists, including one with dual U.S.-Turkish nationality, were killed in an Israeli raid on a similar convoy.

The Israeli military came under fierce criticism for the May 2010 raid, which led to a severe deterioration of its ties with Turkey.

The United States, Israel's most important ally, has backed Israel's blockade of Gaza, which the Palestinian Islamist Hamas group seized from forces loyal to Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in 2007.

Palestinians believe the Israeli sea blockade is illegal and say it is helping strangle Gaza's underdeveloped economy.

Nuland said there were "established and efficient" mechanisms for getting humanitarian aid into Gaza, and the situation there had improved significantly over the last year with a broader range of goods and materials available.

But she said that recent weapons seizures and periodic rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza against Israeli civilians illustrated the ongoing necessity for Israel to screen Gaza-bound cargo.

"We underscore that delivering or attempting or conspiring to deliver material support or other resources to or for the benefit of a designated foreign terrorist organization, such as Hamas, could violate U.S. civil and criminal statutes and could lead to fines and incarceration," Nuland said.

source
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/24/us-israel-usa-flotilla-idUSTRE75N4A620110624

[ktlight]

FYI:


By Dan Murphy, Staff writer / June 27, 2011

A ship jointly owned by Swedish, Greek, and Norwegian activists hoping to join a flotilla of activist vessels challenging Israel's economic blockade of Gaza, had its propeller cut while in Athen's harbor today. A spokesman contacted by the Monitor said that the damage was a deliberate act of sabotage.

Israel and its allies have been working hard to head off the planned flotilla, which is hoping to enter the waters off Gaza in the next week. Col. (ret) Ann Wright, who's organizing a US vessel named the Audacity of Hope for the flotilla, says her ship has been detained in Athens on spurious charges that it's not seaworthy. She says that charge was made by an Israeli legal group.

Now the Juliano is held up. Mikael Löfgren, a spokesman for Ship to Gaza Sweden, says the damage was discovered at 6:30 in the evening Athens time today, and that divers probably cut the propeller in the past 24 hours.

"The reports I'm receiving is that it's certain that it was sabotage," says Mr. Löfgren, reached by phone in Sweden. "The propeller and [propeller shaft] has been cut and we have divers that have filmed the damages. Experts have said there’s no doubt" that the damage was deliberate.

He says that repairing the damage will take a few days. As to who is responsible, he declined to speculate. "We simply don't know who did it, but it's obviously a hostile act," says Löfgren.

Israel has been desperate to stop the flotilla from nearing Gaza. Israel raided a similar flotilla in international waters last year, killing nine pro-Palestinian activists in the process, one of them an American citizen. In the wake of that event, and the international outcry against Israel, Israel eased some of the restrictions on the flow of goods into Gaza.

This year, Israel is determined it doesn't get that far. Earlier today, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet approve using any means necessary to stop the flotilla from reaching Gaza.

The US has also been putting pressure on the activists to hold back. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton characterized the flotilla as hostile in a comment last week.

"We think that it's not helpful for there to be flotillas that try to provoke action by entering into Israeli waters and creating a situation in which the Israelis have the right to defend themselves," Clinton said.

The flotilla, in fact, says it has no plans to enter Israeli waters, instead planning on transiting through international waters to Gaza's territorial waters. The distinction goes to the heart of their protest. While Israel extends de facto sovereignty over Gaza's coastal waters, penning its fisherman close to shore and preventing any shipping or ferries to run to and from the Strip, it's not their territory under international law.

The activists themselves say they want to make the point that peacefully coming and going from Gaza shouldn't be criminalized, insist that they will practice nonviolence in their attempt, and that they'd be delighted to simply sail through unmolested.

source
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2011/0627/Apparent-sabotage-against-Gaza-flotilla

[ktlight]

Uploaded by democracynow on Jun 27, 2011
DemocracyNow.org - Up to 50 Americans are set to sail from a Greek port on a U.S.-flagged ship that is part of an international flotilla carrying humanitarian aid and letters of support for Gaza's 1.5 million Palestinian residents. Its fate is now in limbo under the weight of U.S.-Israeli pressure and Greece's economic turmoil. Israel insists it will enforce its blockade on Gaza, which it says is aimed at stopping weapons from reaching the Hamas government. "The Israelis have a right to interdict arms traffic. We are bearing letters," says Ray McGovern, former Senior CIA analyst and passenger on the U.S. aid ship. "How can these letters be considered a threat to security of Israel?" Democracy Now! producer Aaron Maté and Hany Massoud is in Athens to cover the journey of The Audacity of Hope, named after President Obama's best-selling book. He is the only journalist with the U.S. delegation, and files this exclusive report.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnyh-lZDLVw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnyh-lZDLVw&feature=player_embedded

[seko]

Uploaded by democracynow on Jun 27, 2011
DemocracyNow.org - Up to 50 Americans are set to sail from a Greek port on a U.S.-flagged ship that is part of an international flotilla carrying humanitarian aid and letters of support for Gaza's 1.5 million Palestinian residents. Its fate is now in limbo under the weight of U.S.-Israeli pressure and Greece's economic turmoil. Israel insists it will enforce its blockade on Gaza, which it says is aimed at stopping weapons from reaching the Hamas government. "The Israelis have a right to interdict arms traffic. We are bearing letters," says Ray McGovern, former Senior CIA analyst and passenger on the U.S. aid ship. "How can these letters be considered a threat to security of Israel?" Democracy Now! producer Aaron Maté and Hany Massoud is in Athens to cover the journey of The Audacity of Hope, named after President Obama's best-selling book. He is the only journalist with the U.S. delegation, and files this exclusive report.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnyh-lZDLVw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnyh-lZDLVw&feature=player_embedded

I wish these brave people lots of health, love and courage. They are an example to all of us.

[Maia Gabrial]

And the world will be watching, Israel....

[ktlight]

FYI:


Organizers of a humanitarian aid flotilla to the Gaza Strip say Israel has attempted to stop them by sabotaging the convoy.


The flotilla members said a joint Greek, Swedish and Norwegian boat was found sabotaged with serious damage to its propeller, a Press TV correspondent reported on Tuesday.

The flotilla activists suspect that Israeli agents were responsible for the damage.

On Monday, the international coalition organizing the Freedom Flotilla II held a press conference in Athens with representatives from all of the boats. The US was represented by Ann Wright, a former State Department official, and Alice Walker, an African-American author.

“We have learned that an Israeli law center financed by an American conservative, religious group, headed by John Hagee, is funding the attack on the Gaza flotilla. We call on the Greek government to let us sail,” Wright said.

The Israeli military attacked the Freedom Flotilla in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea on May 31, 2010, killing nine Turkish nationals aboard the Turkish-flagged MV Mavi Marmara and injuring about 50 other activists that were part of the team on the six-ship convoy.

The activists dismissed Israel's demands that any aid for Gaza be delivered through its crossing points and inspected by its military. The flotilla organizers have accepted that teams representing the United Nations or the European Union check the cargo.

Activists on a Canadian boat to Gaza have been discussing how to deal with an attack by the Israeli military in international waters.

David Heap of the Canadian boat said the members of the flotilla are prepared to face threats “non-violently with determination.”

Our correspondent says the flotilla will be delayed for at least a few days as repairs are carried out and inspections are completed.

However, the passengers remain upbeat and believe the momentum is still on their side. The freedom flotilla could be meeting in the international waters of the Mediterranean Sea by the weekend.

source and to watch video
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/186645.html

[ktlight]

FYI:


Greek authorities have reportedly seized the US "Audacity of Hope" moments after it set sail for Gaza to break Israel's blockade of the Palestinian coastal strip.


American activists took to Twitter on Friday to say they were intercepted by the Greek coast guard just moments after they left Perama port near Athens, a Press TV correspondent reported.

Greece's Civil Protection Ministry said on Friday that the coast guard had been ordered to take “all appropriate measures” to bar Gaza-bound Greek and international ships from leaving Greece's ports.

The ban comes as organizers of the humanitarian aid flotilla to the Gaza Strip say the Tel Aviv regime is making Greece halt the convoy.

They complain that Greece is throwing up “administrative obstacles” for the activists in response to pressure from Israel, the Associated Press reported on Monday.

“We call on the Greek government to let us sail,” Ann Wright said.

The flotilla members also say Israel has attempted to stop them by sabotaging the convoy. They said a joint Greek, Swedish and Norwegian boat was found sabotaged with serious damage to its propeller, a Press TV correspondent reported on Tuesday.

The flotilla activists suspect that Israeli agents were responsible for the damage.

Greece has recently increased relations with Israel, and the two countries are currently holding preliminary talks on potential energy deals. Greece's cash-strapped government has also explored venues to acquire more overseas investment, possibly from Israel, to offset its financial crisis.

Israel's security cabinet has ordered the navy to use all possible means to prevent the incoming international aid flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip.

Some 1.5 million people in Gaza are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and the right to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/187083.html

[ktlight]

FYI:

ATHENS - GREECE extended its ban on Gaza-bound ships leaving its ports for a second day on Saturday, saying it wanted to protect the activists.

And as the campaigners themselves appeared divided over how best to respond, the Middle East diplomatic Quartet stepped into the fray, with a statement discouraging new flotillas from sailing to Gaza to provide humanitarian aid.

Greece's Civil Protection Authority confirmed on Saturday that the ban on departures of ships 'with Greek and foreign flags from Greek ports to the maritime area of Gaza' was in place 'until further notice.' The ban had been imposed in light of 'the need to protect national interests' as well as 'the immediate dangers to human life posed by the attempt to break the blockade,' a statement said.

It cited Israel's 'declaration to use violence against those who attempt to break the blockade,' as well as a United Nations plea for member states on the Mediterranean 'to use their influence to discourage' the mission.

Activists have accused Israeli secret services of keeping the mission grounded through a campaign of harassment and dirty tricks, including 'sabotage' attempts on two boats and a slew of bureaucratic problems.

But they appeared at odds over how to react to the obstacles facing them. For while some activists called for an immediate departure, others argued the futility of defying the Greek ban. -- AFP

source
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_686693.html

[ktlight]

FYI:

Hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists plan to fly to Israel before heading for Gaza after pressures by the Tel Aviv regime blocked other campaigners from reaching the impoverished enclave.


"We have responded to a call from Palestinian associations and about 500 hundred of us, women, men and children, will leave on July 8 to show them the world hasn't forgotten them," the organizers said, AFP reported on Monday.

The group will swarm the Ben Gurion International Airport southeast of Tel Aviv to protest the imposed siege against the Gaza Strip by the Israeli regime since 2007.

The blockade has deprived the entire 1.5 million Palestinian population of the territory of food, medicine, fuel and other necessities.

The campaigners include some 300 French nationals and others from Belgium, Germany, Italy, and the United States.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered aviation authorities to block the move. Media reports say all European passengers will be taken to a separate terminal and subjected to tight screening.

The activists, however, said, " Israel has no right to refuse us entry to the occupied Palestinian territories."

The planned effort comes after Greek authorities stood in the way of their fellow humanitarian campaigners that intended to sail to Gaza, apparently buckling under political pressures by the Israeli regime and its key allies in the US and Europe.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/187597.html

[Krullenjongen]

FYI:
[QUOTE]
The blockade has deprived the entire 1.5 million Palestinian population of the territory of food, medicine, fuel and other necessities.


Aah come on, take this Iranian state propaganda with a grain of salt.

Those 100's are probably going on vacation

HHBwE0cx5dQ

[ktlight]

FYI:
[QUOTE]
The blockade has deprived the entire 1.5 million Palestinian population of the territory of food, medicine, fuel and other necessities.


Aah come on, take this Iranian state propaganda with a grain of salt.

Those 100's are probably going on vacation


Are you saying that there is no deliberate starvation of the Palestinians? There have been no Palestinian villages wiped out? There is no problem in Israel or Palestine? Why are you taken in by this propaganda that you post?

[ktlight]

FYI: 5 July, 2011


Israeli forces have launched airstrikes in the eastern part of Gaza city, with no immediate reports of the exact number of casualties.

According to initial reports, Israeli fighter jets targeted a garage used by mechanics in the Shujaiyyah neighborhood in the besieged Gaza Strip late on Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, Israeli artillery shelling in east of the al-Maghazi refugee camp in Gaza killed two Palestinians and injured another.

In April, a series of Israeli airstrikes killed at least 19 Palestinians in the occupied territories.

On May 15, the Israeli military gunned down over two dozen people among those marking Israel's 1948 occupation of Palestine, known as the Nakba Day or "the day of the catastrophe."

The Israeli army frequently bombs the tunnel network in Gaza, claiming that Palestinian resistance fighters use the tunnels to store and smuggle in weapons. Palestinians, however, dismiss such allegations, insisting that they were forced to resort to the underground tunnels to bring in basic living supplies to the impoverished Gazans because the territory has been sealed off to the outside world by a punishing Israeli blockade for over three years.

Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and their rights to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education.

In 1948, Israeli forces displaced some 700,000 Palestinians, forcing them to flee to different countries.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/187761.html

[ktlight]

Freedom Flotilla 2 has never really pushed away from Greece's shores. Israeli diplomatic pressure has persuaded the Greek government to apprehend nearly ten ships by using force and making arrests.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ph7lMbyis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ph7lMbyis&feature=player_embedded

[Davidallany]

This is wonderful indeed.

[ktlight]

FYI:

The Greek coast guard on the island of Crete has blocked a small French boat carrying activists to the impoverished Gaza Strip, says an organizer.


Claude Leostic with the French boat Dignite El Karameh said the vessel “was taken to Sitia in Crete by the Greek coast guard after being stopped in a nearby port while it was refueling,” AFP reported on Thursday.

“The authorities are stopping the boat from setting sail for various administrative reasons,” Leostic added.

Dignite El Karameh, which is carrying 12 pro-Palestinian activists, departed from a Greek port on Tuesday despite the country's ban on Gaza-bound aid ships.

In a separate development, another French vessel's attempt to sail to Gaza was also thwarted on Monday by the Greek coast guard officials. The Louise Michel, with 24 passengers on board, was circled by Greek vessels as it started up its engines.

Greek coast guards on Monday also intercepted the Canadian Tahrir (Liberation) vessel with at least 50 pro-Palestinian activists onboard.

More than 300 activists from 22 countries have signed up to participate in Freedom Flotilla II.

Members of the flotilla say the Greek government is blocking the humanitarian convoy on behalf of the Israeli regime.

Greece has recently expanded its ties with Israel, as the two sides are currently holding preliminary talks on potential energy deals.

The Israeli military attacked the Freedom Flotilla in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea on May 31, 2010, killing nine Turkish nationals aboard the Turkish-flagged MV Mavi Marmara, and injuring about 50 other activists that were part of the team on the six-ship convoy.

The Tel Aviv regime has ordered the Israeli navy to use all possible means to prevent the incoming international aid flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip, but the Gaza Freedom Flotilla II organizers insist that they will push ahead with their aid mission.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/187986.html

[ktlight]

FYI:


Israeli warplanes have attacked the eastern Gaza Strip in yet another use of excessive force against the Palestinian residents of the besieged territory.


In the incident, which happened in the early hours of Sunday, Israeli F-16 jets flew over Gaza City and fired a missile at the area of Jabal al-Rayes, east of the city, Xinhua reported.

There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage to property.

The Israeli military frequently bombs the Gaza Strip, saying the actions are being conducted for defensive purposes. However, disproportionate force is always used, in violation of international law, and civilians are often killed or injured.

Gaza has been blockaded since 2007, which is a situation that has caused a decline in the standard of living, unprecedented levels of unemployment, and unrelenting poverty.

After Israel's assault on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla in international waters on May 31, 2010, in which nine civilians were killed, Tel Aviv slightly eased the land blockade of Gaza, allowing in more consumer goods.

However, the naval siege of the Gaza Strip remains in place, exports are banned, and imports of raw materials and construction materials are restricted.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/188366.html

[Enquiring1]

Those Israeli fighter pilots sure are brave dodging all the rocks being thown at them by the Palestinian kids living in those slums..........

[Krullenjongen]

FYI:


Israeli warplanes have attacked the eastern Gaza Strip in yet another use of excessive force against the Palestinian residents of the besieged territory.


In the incident, which happened in the early hours of Sunday, Israeli F-16 jets flew over Gaza City and fired a missile at the area of Jabal al-Rayes, east of the city, Xinhua reported.

There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage to property.

The Israeli military frequently bombs the Gaza Strip, saying the actions are being conducted for defensive purposes. However, disproportionate force is always used, in violation of international law, and civilians are often killed or injured.

Gaza has been blockaded since 2007, which is a situation that has caused a decline in the standard of living, unprecedented levels of unemployment, and unrelenting poverty.

After Israel's assault on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla in international waters on May 31, 2010, in which nine civilians were killed, Tel Aviv slightly eased the land blockade of Gaza, allowing in more consumer goods.

However, the naval siege of the Gaza Strip remains in place, exports are banned, and imports of raw materials and construction materials are restricted.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/188366.html

And there is the krullenjongen again....hoping to balance the news.

So Israel used excessive force tell me then why was there no immediate reports of injuries or damage to property.
You call that excessive?

And of course the reason why the Israeli fired a rocket at a smuggling tunnel is not mentioned.
As a response to the firering af two kassam rockets from Gaza at israeli civilian communities.
Its the same every time.

IAF aircraft strikes terror tunnel in northern Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=228622

IDF strikes Gaza tunnel after Qassams land in Israel
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-strikes-gaza-tunnel-after-qassams-land-in-israel-1.372418

Don't get me wrong, i want this tit for tat game stopped as much as anyone else and peace should come to this region soon before it is to late. But i like to hear both sides of the story.

[ktlight]

Hi krullenjongen
What balance are you propounding here. The two side: one has major weapons of mass destruction and the other side has stones. So, it's not exactly tit for tat when there is a difference between a LOUD BANG which perpetrates destruction and a tiny 'pop' which can hardly be called a reactionary protest. I mean it's like Daniel and Goliath.

[Martin]

Jews bombing on a sunday. Would be a good movie title. Sad madness all around.

Martin

[ktlight]

FYI:

sraeli military aircraft have launched new strikes on the central and northern areas of the besieged Gaza Strip.


The Israeli Air Force F-16 fighter jets carried out five airstrikes on Thursday against targets in the coastal sliver, a Press TV correspondent reported.

The fighter jets fired at least six rockets on the third consecutive night of Israeli airstrikes on Gaza.

On Wednesday, Israeli warplanes pounded the tunnel network in Rafah, south of the enclave, claiming that Palestinian resistance fighters use the tunnels to smuggle in weapons.

Palestinians, however, dismiss such allegations, insisting that they are forced to resort to the underground tunnels to bring in basic living supplies to the impoverished strip because the territory has been closed off the outside world by an Israeli blockade for over three years.

Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and appropriate living conditions, in the coastal enclave.

The Israeli regime launched an all-out war on the Gaza Strip three days before the turn of 2009. The three-week war killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, including many women and children.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/189133.html

[Krullenjongen]

There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554

[<8>]

Israel news was 1 day after the july 15 right? I guess they have to awnser why they bomb!? But i did not see any pics (proff). Maby i misst it?
Maby Israel dont need to prove anything anymore? I mean there are not many left to kill there any way?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEBQ_bE7uA

[ktlight]

There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554

I have to say that I am sad that you do not seem to be aware that the Palestinians do not have weapons of MASS destruction. There's a huge difference between a rocket and planes full of bombs.

[Olam]

There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554

So here is my bit of oil on this bonfire.
All that needs to be said is that Israel is occupying Palestine, period. As long as they keep taking land illegally and they have been at it for a very long time, there will be violence on both sides. Israel zionists are the ones who took over the house, told the owners to go in the closet and locked the door.
Anyone with self respect and the will to live and help its family would do what needs to be done to get out of that very crowded closet.

[Rocky_Shorz]

There we go again with the Iranian state propaganda.

Yes Israel bombed some target in Gaza.
The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel.

IDF: Hamas at fault for escalation in rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229554

from Iran to Israel news...

Iran is the one launching the rockets at Israel so they come back with attacks they can put in the paper while Israel keeps their anger pointed at Hamas...

Hamas is banging their head on a table while Iran is happy to be out of the spot light

[dan i el]

@Krullenjongen:

Israeli state sanctioned propaganda is no better than Iranian state sponsored propaganda imo.

"The question again is why.......and the answer is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockers into Israel." < If the question you pose is to be: "why?" (if indeed it is Palestianian Nationals firing these Kassam rockets on this occasion) then we can equally apply that question to that situation too, no? ie. <what do you propose is the reason that these rockets are being fired?

[Lord Sidious]

Great, lets pick sides, just like they want us to.
What about the israelis and palestinians who AREN'T part of the problem?
What about them?

[GCS1103]

Great, lets pick sides, just like they want us to.
What about the israelis and palestinians who AREN'T part of the problem?
What about them?

Love you, Lord Sid.....

[nickc2496]

Its turned into a childish tennis match, we did this because you did that, followed by, you did that so we will do this - repeat for what, 3000 odd years...

What ever you fight you become, if either side truly wanted people they would not retaliate, if israel got bombed 3 times in a row without retaliating the whole world would condem palastine, and vice verca, because based on both side childish arguments this tennis match will go on for 3000 more years...

In any case israel can do whatever they want, and the rest of world looks away, israel today is a zionist state, this has little to do with judeism, in fact alot the jews in israel are anti zionist...the world looks away because the same people who fund isreal fund the u.s as always private reserve banks :)

If the media was honest they would condem all acts of killing as psychotic not matter what the reason....

you can never end a war if you keep fighting...

Peace :P

[ktlight]

FYI:

The UN is demanding an investigation into how the Israeli military killed one of its Palestinian school teachers by blasting open the front door of her Gaza home with explosives in the presence of three of her children.

Wafer Shaker al Daghma, 34, a teacher at a local UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) elementary school, was killed last Wednesday as she stood preparing to open the wooden door of her home to the troops. According to UNRWA and relatives who found her body, the military used an explosive device on the door which blew most of her head from her body. They then confined the traumatised children – aged from two to 13 – for five hours while the body lay outside the door of the room where they were held.

Although the soldiers finally left the house – in darkness because of a blackout – at around 9pm, Mrs al Daghma's 13-year-old daughter Samira was too terrified to go outside for help for another two hours because of the continued presence of Israeli armoured vehicles outside her home.

Tiles above a washbasin opposite the front door of the house were still heavily spattered with dried blood yesterday. There was a pile of splintered wooden planks from the destroyed door on the floor where Mrs al Daghma's body, which soldiers apparently covered with a rug, had lain as the military incursion continued.

Chris Gunness, spokesman for UNRWA, said that the Israeli forces were using the house as a post to monitor "alleged militants". "The children heard many gun shots but do not know where they came from," he said. He said UNRWA had asked Israel in writing for "an impartial investigation, for accountability and allowing the facts to speak for themselves," adding: "We again condemn the killing of innocent civilians."

Mrs al Daghma's widower, Majdi, 34, who was out of the house at the time, said his daughter had told him that her mother, knowing that troops were on a search and arrest operation in the vicinity, had put on a headscarf, told the children to go into a bedroom and said that she would open the door when the troops arrived.

An Israeli tank had parked by the outer, open, metal door and the inner, wooden front door was then blasted open.

"Samira heard a very loud explosion and there was a lot of smoke. She looked for her mother but couldn't see her," he said.

Samira al Daghma said yesterday that after entering the house the soldiers had kept her, her sister Roba, four, and brother Qusay, two, in the room. "They did not let us out. There was one soldier at the door of the room. I asked him: 'Where is my mother?' He was speaking in Hebrew and I didn't understand him."

She said that when the soldiers finally left, she crawled with her siblings to a room on the eastern side of the house. "There were still tanks outside our house and if I had gone out they would have seen me. I tried to call my father on my mother's Jawwal [cellphone] but there was no line. I lifted the carpet and saw a bit of my mother's clothes. She was not moving. I did not see her head."

Mr al Daghma said the family were Fatah rather than Hamas supporters. The funeral was arranged by Fatah and there were Arafat portraits in the house yesterday. The Israeli military said it was looking into the incident.

The Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert yesterday promised "strong action" to stop Gaza militants if they continued their attacks after a 48-year-old Israeli father-of-four was killed by a Hamas-claimed mortar on Friday. Oxfam urged Israel to avert a health crisis as Gaza's power station shut down, saying it had run out of fuel.

source
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blast-kills-gaza-teacher-in-front-of-her-children-826265.html

[Lord Sidious]

Mmmm, war criminals?
Without a doubt, dirtbags too.
Will anything be done?
Probably not.

[ktlight]

FYI:

July 17, 2011

GAZA CITY (Ma’an) – Seven people were wounded in Gaza on Sunday by what medical sources said was an Israeli airstrike, but Israel denied it had carried out any such raid.

Emergency and ambulance services official Adham Abu Salmiya said all of the victims were members of the Zaanin family. They were evacuated to Beit Hanoun Hospital.

Abu Salmiya highlighted that over the past two weeks, three people were killed and more than 20 were injured in Israeli raids on the coastal enclave. Among the injured, he added, were six children and two girls.

But a spokeswoman for the Israeli military said "there was no IDF activity in Gaza overnight or this morning."

Israeli forces have been launching strikes on a daily basis over the past four days.

Meanwhile, three so-called Qassam rockets fired from the Gaza Strip on Saturday night hit open areas in the western Negev, Israeli media reported Sunday morning.

There were no reports of injuries or damage.

The first projectile exploded at around 1 a.m. within the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, the Israeli news site Ynet reported. Two additional projectiles landed in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.

On Saturday, a Palestinian man was injured by an Israeli airstrike on northern Gaza. Two days earlier, an airstrike killed one man and injured five others in the tunnel area near Egypt.

Israeli army officials and Palestinian security sources said the most recent raid targeted a group of militants as they prepared to launch a homemade projectile toward Israel from the east of Gaza City.

The commander of Israel's army Benny Gantz held an urgent meeting Friday to discuss the situation along the border with Gaza and "practical steps" to end projectile fire, news reports said.

Israel's Hebrew-language daily Maariv said the meeting was attended by senior commanders of the Israeli army in various wings including the commander of the southern region.

The army officials said they held Hamas "fully responsible for this situation," allegedly for deliberately failing to stop the firing of projectiles into southern Israel after a sharp decrease of several months.

The past few days of rocket fire and airstrikes represent the first significant recurrence of violence in the area since April, when airstrikes killed 19 Palestinians after a missile fired from Gaza killed a teenager.

Israel has imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip since Hamas took control in 2007.

source
http://uruknet.info/?p=m79664&hd=&size=1&l=e

[ktlight]

FYI:

Israeli naval commandoes have taken over a small French ship as it approached the Gaza Strip to break Israel's blockade of the Palestinian coastal sliver.


Israeli commandoes boarded the Dignite/Al Karama, and took control of the ship on Tuesday as it approached the Gaza Strip. All the communications have been jammed, and activists on board can't be reached by phone or by Internet, a Press TV correspondent reported.

The vessel left the Greek island of Kastellorizo late on Saturday following a troubled stay in Greece, after Athens imposed a ban on the departure of any ship planning to join the Gaza-bound Freedom Flotilla II.

Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon told reporters in al-Quds (Jerusalem) on Monday that "If this boat is on its way to Gaza and tries a provocative act -- yes, we shall intercept it."

More than 300 activists from 22 countries have signed up to participate in Freedom Flotilla II.

Members of the flotilla say the Greek government is blocking the humanitarian convoy on behalf of the Israeli regime.

Greece has recently expanded its ties with Israel, as the two sides are currently holding preliminary talks on potential energy deals.

The Israeli military attacked the Freedom Flotilla in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea on May 31, 2010, killing nine Turkish nationals aboard the Turkish-flagged MV Mavi Marmara, and injuring about 50 other activists that were part of the team on the six-ship convoy.

The Tel Aviv regime has ordered the Israeli navy to use all possible means to prevent the incoming international aid flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip, but the Gaza Freedom Flotilla II organizers insist that they will push ahead with their aid mission.

Israel laid an economic siege on Gaza in June 2007, after Hamas took control of the strip. The blockade has had a disastrous impact on the humanitarian and economic situation in the Gaza Strip.

Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including the freedom of movement, and the rights to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education. Poverty and unemployment rates stand at approximately 80 percent and 60 percent, respectively, in the Gaza Strip.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/189748.html

[loveandgratitude]

YOUR US DOLLARS AT WORK.

VIDEO - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/24/gaza-fishermen-gunboats-israel-navy

Harriet Sherwood watches the Israeli navy force back Palestinians who dispute 'security' fishing limit.

Hani al-Asi, a fisherman since the age of 11 and a father with 12 mouths to feed, had just begun throwing his lines into the Mediterranean when an Israeli gunboat sped towards his traditional hasaka.

With a machine gun mounted at the rear and half a dozen armed soldiers on the bridge, the navy vessel repeatedly circled the small fishing boat. The rolling waves caused by the backwash threatened to swamp it.

Asi had stopped his boat over an artificial reef created by dumped cars to attract the dwindling fish population. He was just beyond the limit of three nautical miles from the Gaza shoreline set by the Israeli military for Palestinian fishermen, beyond which they are forbidden to fish for "security reasons".

"We see them every day," he said, shrugging at the gunboat's presence. "I got used to this. Every day they are around us - shooting, damaging the boat, sometimes people are injured. If we were scared, we wouldn't fish. But we have nothing else to do."

With the boat rocking forcefully, the gunboat's crew addressed Asi in Arabic through its loudspeaker. "You are in a forbidden area. Go back." Asi pulled in the lines and headed back to port.

"The best place to fish is more than 10 miles out," he said. "But every time we exceed three miles, they shoot at us, use the water [cannon], take the nets. Even today when foreigners are with us, they were trying to tip the boat over."

Under the 1993 Oslo accords, Palestinian fishermen were permitted to fish up to 20 nautical miles off the coast of Gaza. Over the past 18 years, the fishing area has been successively eroded, most recently in 2007 when Israel imposed a limit of three nautical miles as part of its land and sea blockade of Gaza after Hamas took control of the territory.

But fishermen and human rights groups say that, since the war in Gaza in 2008-09, the Israeli military regularly enforces a limit even closer to the shore.

The restriction has devastated Gaza's fishing industry. "It is a catastrophic situation," said Khalil Shaheen of the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. "Sixty thousand people are dependent on [the fishing industry], and 85% of daily income has been lost."

Fishermen on both sides of the three-mile limit, he said, were subjected to harassment, live fire, confiscation of boats and nets, and water cannon, sometimes impregnated with foul-smelling chemicals.

Since early June, a coalition of Palestinian and international organisations under the umbrella of Civil Peace Service Gaza has been monitoring encounters between fishermen and the Israeli military from its own boat, the Oliva.

But in the past fortnight, the Oliva itself has become a target for the Israeli navy, with repeated assaults on it by military vessels. Last Wednesday, the Guardian hired a boat to accompany the monitors plus a handful of hasakas out to sea.

At around the three-mile limit, the small flotilla was approached and repeatedly circled by two Israeli gunboats. The engines of the hasakas were cut as the waves caused by the gunboats' backwash rose and fell. After about 20 minutes, the gunboats withdrew as a third military vessel, deploying water cannon, arrived.

A powerful jet of water was targeted at the Oliva, causing the boat to rock dangerously and drenching those aboard. After repeated dousings, the Oliva's captain ordered the four passengers to clamber on to an adjacent hasaka, fearing his boat was about to sink. As the Oliva's engine was hit by the military vessel, he too was forced to abandon ship.

From a distance it seemed impossible that the Oliva would not go under. But its captain and other fishermen managed to secure a rope to try to tow it back to port. The military boat followed the Oliva and the other boats at some speed, still firing its water cannon, for several minutes.

According to Salah Ammar, the Oliva's captain, the boats were within the three-mile limit. "We don't even reach two miles before they chase us with guns and water [cannon]," he said.

However, GPS co-ordinates taken by the Guardian during Wednesday's encounter showed the position of the boats to be outside the permitted zone.

In a statement, the Israeli Defence Force said: "The ongoing hostilities between Israel and Palestinian terror organisations create significant security risks along the coast of the Gaza Strip. Due to these risks, fishing along the coasts has been restricted to a distance of three nautical miles from shore. Fishermen in Gaza are aware of these restrictions as they have been notified of them on numerous occasions. The restrictions and their enforcement by the Israel navy are in complete accordance with international law."

The United Nations and human rights organisations say the fishing restriction is collective punishment in violation of international law.

Shaheen rejects Israel's justification. "The Israeli navy has never found evidence that fishermen involved in violations have been involved weapons smuggling," he said. The "environment of daily harassment" was part of Israel's "illegal collective punishment and closure of Gaza".

The Oliva's engine was damaged in Wednesday's encounter but Ammar was planning to go out to sea again the next day if he could locate the parts he needed to fix it. "Every time I know what will happen. They will shoot water on me, fire bullets. But I get hundreds of calls asking, 'When will you go out?'" The fishermen, he says, want the protection they believe is afforded by the presence of international monitors on board the boat.

Asi, back at the port after his aborted fishing trip, was puzzled by the military's aggression towards fisherman whose faces, he says, the soldiers must recognise after repeated encounters. "The point is not security for the Israelis. They know everything. They arrested many of us and searched many boats and never found anything."

His morning's haul consisted of one large sea bass, sold for 150 shekels, and three smaller, worthless fish. After deducting 50 shekels for fuel, 50 shekels for bait, and 10 shekels to put aside for his boat's maintenance, he and his assistant pocketed 20 shekels (£3.60) each for their day's work.

Would he be going out again the next day? "Inshallah [if God wills it]. This is the only source I have to feed my family."

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, I watched the video.
Defending your nation and people from threats SHOULD be a noble and honourable thing to do.
However, humiliating and degrading people who are no threat to you, just because you can?
NOT honourable, NOT noble and in the long run, only harms those doing it.
I wish I were with the fisherman.
I would hoist the orange white and green tricolour of Eire and shout to the waterborne dirtbags ''Ní siocháin go saoirse''
I would have been tempted to drop my pants and moon em too, to show the utter contempt I feel for bullies and cowards.

[Marsila]

hmmm wonder how many news channels would have showed this if this was the other way round.

It clearly shows it's not Palestinians vs Israelis, it's a match between haves who get away with everything against have nots! we have

oh get off our planet such bullies we surely don't need you!!! and can't wait till Karma bites those who do such things where they deserve!!

[Seikou-Kishi]

This is disgusting behaviour. They (the IDF and the entire mechanism that uses and supports it) are beyond contempt. They are morally stunted pond scum causing suffering for the joy of it. The sadistic bastards deserve all they're dealing and more, and I hope to the god I don't believe in that they get it sooner or later.

[ktlight]

"95 percent of drinking water fails to meet international standards and water and sanitation plants have yet to rebuilt following the 2009 Israeli war"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRrwasGTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRrwasGTg&feature=player_embedded

[Lord Sidious]

When a whole population can't get clean water to drink because another group denies them that right, then we are talking about war crimes.
This madness will come back on the aggressors three times over, such is the law of the universe.
Advocate against that as much as you like criminals, life is a bitch.

[ktlight]

FYI:

Palestinian medical sources in the Gaza Strip have warned of an imminent health crisis due to a severe shortage of medicines and fuel in the coastal sliver.


The health ministry has stressed that the lives of hundreds of patients, especially those with chronic diseases, are in danger as many centers have run out of essential medication and medical items, a Press TV correspondent reported on Sunday.

The situation will further deteriorate as the impoverished strip is soon to run out of fuel to run electrical generators, on which many of Gaza's hospitals rely on, officials warned on Friday.

Health Ministry official Bassam Barhoum said that electricity generators will stop if fuel is not supplied within a few days, adding that this would affect every single hospital in Gaza, Ma'an News Agency reported.

Additionally, a state of emergency was declared in Gaza's medical sector in June as a result of a shortage of medical supplies.

Officials in Gaza blame the harsh Israeli siege on the coastal strip for the shortages. On several occasions, Gaza health officials have called on the international community to pressure Israel to put an end to its illegal siege of the coast.

More than 1.5 million Palestinians are currently living in Gaza under siege conditions, imposed on the coastal strip in 2007.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/191737.html

[Rocky_Shorz]

to help matters Israel jets just bombed a medicine production facility in Gaza

[ktlight]

"95 percent of drinking water fails to meet international standards and water and sanitation plants have yet to rebuilt following the 2009 Israeli war"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRrwasGTg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRrwasGTg&feature=player_embedded

[ktlight]

FYI:

An Israeli minister has called for a major military offensive against the Gaza Strip, hours after the regime carried out an airstrike on the impoverished coastal sliver.


Israeli Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aaronovitch, whose remarks were aired by the Israeli public radio and the regime's Channel One TV, claimed that “the steady shower of missiles” from Gaza is not tolerable and Israel must retaliate with a “broad military action,” AFP reported on Tuesday.

The hawkish remarks of the Israeli official came amid a recent surge of violence, including airstrikes on Gaza and arrests of Palestinian civilians in the region.

On Tuesday, Israeli fighter jets pounded a tunnel under the enclave's border with Egypt.

The Israeli army frequently bombs the tunnel network in Gaza, claiming that Palestinian resistance fighters use the tunnels to store and smuggle in weapons.

Palestinians, however, dismiss such allegations, insisting that they were forced to resort to the underground tunnels to bring in basic living supplies to the impoverished Gazans because the territory has been sealed off to the outside world by a punishing Israeli blockade for over three years.

Earlier on Monday, Israeli military forces shot dead two Palestinians in the Qalandia refugee camp in the occupied West Bank after the two hurled stones at Israeli troops who were making arrests in the camp.

In another incident on Friday, at least 15 Palestinians were injured when Israeli soldiers were trying to disperse peaceful protesters demanding the reopening of the main entrance of Kafr Qaddum village in northern West Bank.

Israel also launched an all-out military offensive on the besieged Gaza Strip three days before the turn of 2009. The ensuing three-week war killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, including many women and children.


source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/192110.html

[ktlight]

FYI:

Israeli warplanes have once again bombarded the Gaza Strip in line with Tel Aviv's policy of targeting the enclave with overnight strikes, witnesses say.


The fighter jets attacked several targets in Gaza City early Thursday, Xinhua reported.

The Israeli military frequently bombs the Gaza Strip, saying the actions are being conducted for defensive purposes.

However, disproportionate force is always used, in violation of international law, and civilians are often killed or injured.

Israel launched an all-out war on the Gaza Strip three days before the turn of 2009. The three-week war killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, including many women and children.

Gaza has been blockaded since 2007, a situation which has caused a decline in the standard of living, unprecedented levels of unemployment, and unrelenting poverty.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/192242.html

[sirac]

indeed a pity about all of this. one knows that islamist extremists suicide bomb their pawns (& for this transliteration of the message to a useless domain may they truely be judged by one they regard as the creator king) in isreali territory. Isreal holds back from small persistent attacks, and launches conventional attacks regardless of collateral (images of these inflictions are truely the worst to view, damage to innocents from pressure devices terrible).
I've only read one systemized arguement of what to do, or what should have been done. : http://samsonblinded.org/
but me thinks the major limitation of such an organizational plan came in as soon as one country within the islamic middle east world became a nuclear power (Iran, maybe this thing is still in flux)
..unless all talk. the plan as given by that isrealian machiavellian guy Shoher, posits that nobody cares about the Palestinian fate, not even the surrounding arab countries. it is merely an expedience they want in the pot to agitate the situation with the invader as they see it (being Isreal) in the region. sacrifice the lowest pawn or one of lowest Islamic,or Arab cultural stock rank, is a way of rationalizing this. However can we as new worldians accept such a blight on a human brother? one held within poverty (last line of the FYI); no. but it is hard from any standpoint to do anything, as one immediately entangles in a very complex situation. What should be perfected though, one time, in time and place maybe somebody else's are that ,& this is dangerous, for who can say who has more right to a piece of land/(unless grief negates, an illegal flow of a fighting people), is that the Palestinians should have a completely separate space, perhaps being imported into extended border regions between Isreal and neighbouring Arab states {robbing both so to speak}. why i often wonder does isreal surround itself, here having a potentially hostile area in Gaza, then other borders elsewhere. a single outer border would be more useful. governments are these funny political animals, never exposing themselves completely to the regulation of a single imperative. if the military reason was clearly cited, they would have moved in a direction which would have been more easy to control today. yes governments seem to prefer this supramolecular thing or international intergovernment. now i know why avalonians can hate my voice, for sometimes i process project to another thing, but i think they merely see the skin (but with all such things, i point, and 3 fingers point back at me). right now we need government interchecking to prevent over atrocity. there is a school of thought, which found its way within the OT, and a bit in the NT,..that of luke-warm water being spitted out..if only the process rational was that it was either first hot or cold, but with luke-warm...very hard to decifer, i'd actually prefer a process force to spit them out

[ktlight]

State Department announcement comes in light of Hamas demands to audit the books of U.S. charities, New York Times reports, which would violate U.S. policy against direct contacts with Hamas.

FYI:

The United States threatened Thursday to halt humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, after Hamas demanded to audit the books of U.S.-financed NGOs in Gaza, the New York Times reported.

According to the report, the U.S. State Department said it would stop delivering to Gaza some $100 million in aid for health care, agriculture, and water infrastructure if Hamas does not stop insisting on auditing the books of U.S. charities in the Gaza Strip.

The threat comes after Hamas officials took over the offices of the International Medical Corps on Sunday after the NGO refused to be audited by Hamas.

Hamas has been trying to tighten their grip on the NGOs in Gaza, first demanding they register with the central government, pay a fee and submit financial reports, the New York Times reported, but when they demanded in June that the groups must allow officials to audit their books, the charities began objecting.

Moreover, the report said that while Hamas did not explain the reason for its demand to audit the charities' books, there are fears that money could be diverted for political or intelligence-gathering purposes.

The United States forbids American organizations from having direct contact with Hamas, who it labels as a terrorist group, and therefore on-site audits by Hamas officials would lead to the suspension of aid, the NYT quoted the U.S. State Department as saying.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-u-s-threatens-to-halt-humanitarian-aid-to-gaza-1.378317

[Lost Soul]

If the Federal Government decides to halt it, it should do it on the basis that it is and has been broke and likely to be broke for twenty plus years and not because of politics.

[loveandgratitude]

DISGRACE
USAID is halting humanitarian assistance to the Gaza Strip over alleged meddling by the radical Palestinian group Hamas, a US official has said.

"We deeply regret that USAID-funded partner organisations operating in Gaza are forced by Hamas's actions to suspend their assistance work," the official said.

"USAID assistance programmes were put on hold effective August 12," he added.

"Hamas, through a series of measures it has imposed over the past months, has created an environment which jeopardises the ability of non-governmental organisations to provide assistance to Gaza&£8217; s most vulnerable residents," the official said.

He said all US partner organisations would suspend their activities funded by the United States until these are able "to operate without interference or harassment from Hamas."

Another official in Washington said he understood that Hamas has been demanding access to physically search files and records of NGOs, which would be unprecedented.

Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, insisted on Friday that it should be able to verify the accounts of NGOs financed by the US Agency for International Development (USAID) in the Palestinian territories.

"The minister of interior of the government of Hamas intends to exercise its legal rights in the surveillance of all institutions operating in Gaza," spokesman Taher al-Nunu said.

He complained that "USAID refuses to recognise the government in Gaza," adding that anyone who "wishes to work in Palestinian territory must obey its laws."

A similar row was under way in Cairo where a notorious Egyptian intelligence apparatus is probing foreign funding of civil society groups sparking tensions between Washington and Egypt's ruling generals, judicial sources said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8698826/US-halts-humanitarian-assistance-to-Gaza-Strip.html

[Maia Gabrial]

Let me guess, these Hamas had masks on....? So, how can they be recognized as Hamas?
We all know who opposes everything that has to do with the good of Palestine....

[animalspirits]

Awful, just awful. Where is the compassion?

[Snoweagle]

The crux of the matter is that Hamas is struggling against the very forces that intend to bring down our western economies as well as every other country on the planet and accomplishing most by super secret non disclosure contracts which depend on profit over humanity. The statement makes this very clear:
"Hamas, through a series of measures it has imposed over the past months, has created an environment which jeopardises the ability of non-governmental organisations to provide assistance to Gaza&£8217; s most vulnerable residents," the official said.

In fact, Hamas, and the Arab world, and the rest of the world, in general, loath the prospect of contractual masters over others. Each of us bear witness, this escalating grab every day now, so Hamas are not terrorists in my book, they are doing what every indigenous species has done from year dot; they are trying to protect their homes, families and lively hoods. Masquerading arguments and attrition promoted by, and not limited too, the world media by secular Arab secret services, each imbued with contrary views on humanitarian issues and the future of mankind. All driven by the United Nations. A Corporation, status and peer dependent on profit.

It really isn't to hard to see the con, the lies and the betrayal. Ask Tony Blair, comfortably ensconced in palatial accommodation in the region, away from the current western financial implosion effecting us in the UK. How come every body that counters this betrayal enforcing change always "get dead".

Why do we still allow it?

[Maia Gabrial]

You guys in the UK seem to have a longer list of criminals to prosecute than us!

[ktlight]

FYI:

t least one person has been killed and five others injured after Israeli warplanes launched several airstrikes on the besieged Gaza Strip.


Israeli fighter jets fired several rockets at Zeitoun neighborhood to the east of Gaza City early on Tuesday. At least one person died while three others sustained serious injuries in the aerial attack, a Press TV correspondent reported.

Two other Palestinians were also wounded in two separate raids carried out by Israeli warplanes.

Israeli military aircraft carried out two further airstrikes east of Khan Yunis and against a supply tunnel near the Rafah border with Egypt. However, no one was injured in those attacks.

Israeli forces have carried out large numbers of ground and air attacks on Gaza since the end of Operation Cast Lead against the enclave in 2009.

More than 1,400 Palestinians were killed during the three-week Israeli land, sea and air offensive in the impoverished coastal sliver during the winter of 2008-2009. The offensive also inflicted $1.6 billion in damages to the Gazan economy.

A United Nations inquiry, led by the former South African judge Richard Goldstone, detailed what investigators have described as Israeli actions "amounting to war crimes, possibly crimes against humanity," during its major offensive against the Gaza Strip.

Israel laid an economic siege on the Gaza Strip in June 2007, after Hamas took control of the enclave.

The blockade has had a disastrous impact on the humanitarian and economic situation in the Gaza Strip.

Some 1.5 million people are being denied their basic rights, including freedom of movement, and their rights to appropriate living conditions, work, health and education. Poverty and unemployment rates stand at approximately 80 percent and 60 percent, respectively, in the Gaza Strip.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194155.html

[ktlight]

FYI:

The Israeli occupation forces (IOF) will impose a hermetic closure on all Palestinian land in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in September, Hebrew media reported on Sunday.

They said that the measure was taken in anticipation of solidarity marches to coincide with the Palestinian Authority bid to win UN recognition of a Palestine state.

The reports noted that all Israeli security apparatuses were put on high alert, expecting clashes with army forces deployed at checkpoints in the West Bank and at border crossings and barricades near Gaza and Jerusalem.

They said that firm orders were given to the armed forces to deal violently with any demonstration attempting to reach the areas between Palestinian land and Jewish settlements. They said that those forces would use firearms, tear gas, stun grenades, and waste water against Palestinian marchers.

source
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s75XXmUoYyUevk30kH%2fEiYkWox5KXr9wuSb3tySpYqmdsGT x2irWJO75Uf8jcsDrZYQYMIBxAaKljUImybVqmG0CgUBt1Wkkarn5gizjZ%2bKA8%3d

[ktlight]

FYI:

On Tuesday evening, 16 August 2011, the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) killed a Palestinian child from al-Nussairat refugee camp, who was 400 meters from the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel, east of Deir al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip. The victim's family told a PCHR field worker that their child had a mental disability. The victim was in an area that had not been explicitly declared as prohibited.

According to investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately 18:00 on Tuesday, 16 August 2011, Israeli soldiers stationed at the border northeast of Deir al-Balah opened fire at a Palestinian, who was nearly 400 meters from the border. As a result, he was wounded by 10 bullets in his head and chest. He was left wounded without being offered any first aid. After coordination was made with IOF, at approximately 19:20, medical crews were able to retrieve the body, which was then transferred to al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir al-Balah. After four hours later, the child was identified as Sa'd Abdul Rahim Mahmoud al-Majdalwai, 17, from al-Nussairat refugee camp. He was hit by 10 live bullets mostly to the head. In his testimony to PCHR, the victim's father said that his son had been suffering from a mental disability and a speech impairment.

The Israeli radio reported that IOF observed a person approaching the security fence, and shot him. This version of events confirms that IOF could have arrested or used less than lethal force against him, especially as he was wearing civilian clothes and there was nothing to indicate that he was a non-civilian.

It should be noted that on Tuesday morning, the Gaza Strip witnessed several shooting and shelling attacks on civilian areas and military training sites. As a result of this shelling and shooting, a Palestinian resistance man was killed and two others were seriously wounded in Gaza City. A child and another person were wounded in Khan Yunis and Rafah in the south of the Gaza Strip.

PCHR condemns and expresses concerned over this crime, and:

1. Asserts that these crimes are part of a series of war crimes committed by IOF in the oPt, which reflect total disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians.

2. Calls upon the international community to take immediate action in order to put an end to such crimes. PCHR further renews its demand for the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention to fulfill their obligation under Article 1, which stipulates "the High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances," as well as their obligations under Article 146 which requires that the Contracting Parties prosecute persons alleged to commit grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention. These grave breaches constitute war crimes under Article 147 of the same Convention and under Protocol I Additional to Geneva Conventions.


source
http://uruknet.info/?p=m80570&hd=&size=1&l=e

[ktlight]

FYI:

Israeli fighter jets have targeted a building in the city of Rafah in the south of Gaza Strip, killing at least seven Palestinians.


The Palestinian fatalities caused on Thursday include a nine-year-old boy and a young girl, a Press TV correspondent reported.

Tel Aviv claims it launched the strikes in response to attacks near the Red Sea resort of Eilat in southern Israel, which left at least eight Israelis dead and dozens others injured.

Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barak has accused Gaza of organizing the attacks and vowed a 'full force' response against the Palestinians in the Tel Aviv-besieged territory.

The democratically-elected government of the Palestinian resistance movement of Hamas in Gaza strongly rejected the allegations and warned against any act of aggression against the enclave.

Meanwhile, the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon raised fears of an 'escalation' in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict following the Eilat attacks and called on both sides to act with restraint.

source
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194548.html

[ktlight]

FYI:

Israel’s aggressive response to a series of suicide and roadside bomb attacks near the Red Sea resort of Eilat on Thursday has exacerbated tensions with both the Palestinians and its neighbour, Egypt.

The attacks killed eight people, including two Israeli security personnel, and injured dozens more. While Israeli security forces had been warned of an attack from Egypt’s Sinai desert, they appear to have taken no additional precautions. They pursued the attackers, whom eyewitnesses said were wearing Egyptian army uniforms, presumably stolen, on land and by air, killing at least seven people, including several Egyptian policemen.

This has sparked the worst diplomatic crisis between the two countries since the signing of the 1979 Camp David Accords, with Egypt threatening to withdraw its ambassador from Israel.

Israel sought to get the United Nations Security Council to condemn the attacks as acts of terrorism, but this was knocked back by Lebanon, which currently has a seat on the Security Council.

No group has taken responsibility for Thursday’s attacks, the deadliest in several years. Hamas, the Islamist party that controls the Gaza Strip, denied responsibility for the attacks, which appear to have taken it by surprise. It accused Israel of using the attacks to justify aggression against Gaza.

Shin Bet, Israel’s intelligence agency, claimed the attacks were launched by the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), a splinter from Fatah which has launched several attacks in recent years and was involved with the Islamic Army in the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in 2006. Nevertheless, the Israeli government still blamed Hamas, saying that at the very least it played an indirect role in aiding militants who travelled from Gaza through the Sinai to attack Israel’s southern border. Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman blamed the Palestinian Authority for the attacks.

Without having provided any evidence linking the attack to either Hamas or the PRC, Israel’s security forces carried out bombing raids on Gaza, killing seven people, including two senior PRC members, a three-year-old child and a 13-year-old boy. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called this “swift justice.”

Abu Mujahed, the spokesman for the PRC, while denying involvement in Thursday’s attacks, praised them and opposed any ceasefire with Israel—an implicit attack on Hamas, which has, since Israel’s 2008-09 military offensive, largely observed a ceasefire and has reached a deal with the Palestinian Authority, which controls the West Bank and works closely with Israel.

Israel’s targeted assassinations prompted militants, including the PRC, to fire dozens of rockets on southern Israeli towns and cities over the weekend, killing one person in Be’er Sheba. Hamas’ military wing also fired rockets into Israel.

This provoked a further military response from Israel. All told, at least 14 Palestinians have been killed since Thursday.

There are signs that Israel is preparing a major military escalation. Kadima, the main opposition party, is calling for a military campaign against Gaza.


source to read more
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26124

[ktlight]

FYI:

He looks at the camera with bright eyes and the beginning of a smile, wearing a miniature dark blue zipper sweatshirt, the cuffs folded up a bit to make it fit.

I can imagine his mother dressing him that morning, making sure he would be warm enough. I wonder if she’s the one who took the picture. Someone has written on the photo “kisses.”

It’s not a formal picture. He’s outside on a sunny day. It looks like he was probably moving when the picture was snapped; his arms seem to be swinging a little. As with most almost two-year-olds, I suspect it was hard to get him to stay still long enough for a photo.

It’s a happy picture, the kind that makes you smile; perhaps it reminds you of funny, energetic little children you know or remember.

Until you see the next picture. It was taken on his second birthday. His name was Islam Quraiqe.

Death from a drone strike is not pretty. The small body is charred, ripped apart; internal organs are pouring out.

He had been riding with his father and uncle on a motorcycle in Gaza when the missile hit them. His 29-year-old father, a member of the Palestinian resistance, and 32-year-old uncle physician were also killed. Five bystanders, including a woman, were injured.

The missile was fired remotely by an Israeli sitting in front of a video screen and operating one of the many drones that periodically fly over Gaza and shoot Palestinians like fish in a fishbowl. The operators are usually female, the preferred group for this kind of desk job.

The drones, which look like small, pilotless jets, are equipped with precision-guided missiles.

Those operating them receive real-time video feeds from sensors located on the drone: a color nose camera, a TV lens, an infrared camera for low light and night, and a synthetic radar for looking through smoke, clouds, or haze. The cameras produce full-motion video as well as still-frame radar images.

Numerous articles extol the virtues of Israeli drones. An Aug. 17 article by David Rodman reports: “The Israel Air Force (IAF) has a rich history of employing unmanned aerial vehicles in battle with excellent results.” Rodman crows that, with the possible exception of the United States, “Israel is the country most closely identified with [drone] operations in the post-World War II period.”

Islam was the second 2-year-old to be killed by Israeli forces in two days.

The first was killed by an Israeli “precision” rocket the day before. The boy’s name was Malek Sha’at. His father was also killed. The only picture available online is of a small shrouded body.

An article at WorldNetDaily.com by reporter Aaron Klein proclaims that Israeli weapons are “capable of taking out stationary and moving targets with minimal collateral damage.”

Perhaps Klein is right. Two years of life is decidedly minimal. Intolerably so.

source to read more
http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2011/08/23/israeli-video-games-in-gaza/

[ktlight]

FYI:

Officials of the Israeli Kadima opposition party, headed by Tzipi Livni, are currently demanding the Israeli government of Benjamin Netanyahu to launch a large-scale military offensive against the Gaza Strip, including a ground invasion.

Party officials attacked Netanyahu after news of a cease fire between Israel and the Hamas movement in Gaza, were published by a number of news outlets.

Livni stated that in 2008 and 2009, Netanyahu opposed a ceasefire with Hamas and demanded a military attack against it.

It is worth mentioning that Livni, and the head of the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Shaul Mofaz, in addition to Kadima acting head, Yohanan Pilsner, are strongly pushing for a large-scale military offensive, including a ground invasion, against the Gaza Strip.

On Sunday, Mofaz stated that the Israeli government must decide whether it wants the current situation to continue, or to start effective steps targeting the leadership of Hamas and its infrastructure, to eventually remove it from power in Gaza.

On his part, Pilsner stated that the Knesset Committee will support a comprehensive military attack against the Gaza Strip, and will support all initiatives that aim at striking Hamas and other resistance groups in Gaza.

Pilsner added that Israel cannot coexist with the current situation, and must act firmly against Hamas and other resistance groups in the coastal region.


source
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m80754&hd=&size=1&l=e

[ktlight]

FYI:
"Israel has threatened to launch another all-out war on the Gaza Strip, saying attacking the Palestinian territory is not a matter of choice, but a war of necessity for Tel Aviv.


Marking the third anniversary of Israel's deadly attack on Gaza, the chief of staff of the Israeli military, Lt. General Benny Gantz, said on Tuesday that Tel Aviv will ''sooner or later'' need to launch a large-scale operation against Hamas, the democratically-elected ruler of Gaza because Tel Aviv is losing its grip on the coastal strip.

Gantz said Operation Cast Lead, which Israel launched against Gaza on December 27, 2008 and lasted for three week, had a deterrent effect on Israeli security, in which cracks were starting to show over time, forcing Israel to launch another war.

Gantz also said that Tel Aviv is looking for the right time to launch a military offensive against the Gaza Strip and that the new war ''must be initiated by Israel and must be swift and painful".

The Israeli regime waged a 22-day Christmas war on the densely populated coastal sliver in 2008 left more than 1,400 Palestinians dead including at least 300 children.

The offensive also destroyed 4,000 houses and devastated a large portion of infrastructures in the blockaded strip. Israeli military forces also targeted UN-run schools and centers.

More than 50,000 people were also displaced as a result of the three-week war.

Tel Aviv also used internationally-banned weapons, including white phosphorus bombs, against the Gazans during the three-week war."

Source

[ktlight]

"What happened in Gaza during Operation Cast Lead WAS NOT A WAR BUT A MASSACRE, a massacre of a defenceless, imprisoned and besieged civilian population. The IOF air assault (in the first of 3 weeks) dropped bombs around the clock hitting homes, hospitals, ambulances, UN & Red Cross outposts & compounds, schools, universities & government buildings, with the borders closed & NO WHERE in Gaza to seek refuge, "it was like shooting fish in a barrel". 1400 murdered (358 were children) with kill ratios of 4/5 being civilians + over 5 thousands seriously injured. For every israeli soldier killed (5+5 from friendly fire) 100 Palestinians were killed, for every israeli civilian killed (3) 400 Palestinian civilians were murdered. These are not the statistics of war, it was GENOCIDE PURE & SIMPLE. Those calling it a war are wittingly or unwittingly being agents of proper-gander"

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[Corncrake]

In the 9 years since Rachel Corrie was crushed to death by a bulldozer in Gaza what has changed?

http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/blog/2012/03/16/on-the-9th-anniversary-of-rachels-stand-in-gaza

[SilentFeathers]

Does any one know if this is starting? Rumor from a source I know says something is going on there on the ground right now (military movement).....

ADDED: I can't find any info about this, perhaps it's just a rumor (for right now).

From earlier today:


The top leader of Hamas dared Israel on Monday to launch a ground invasion of Gaza and dismissed diplomatic efforts to broker a cease-fire in the six-day-old conflict, as the Israeli military conducted a new wave of deadly airstrikes on the besieged Palestinian enclave, including a second hit on a 15-story building that houses media outlets. A volley of rockets fired from Gaza into southern Israel included one that hit a vacant school.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict.html?hp&_r=0

[GCS1103]

Momentarily, from what I hear. I hope not, though.

[apollo41]

world war3 is on its way!
God help us All?

[David Trd1]

world war3 is on its way!
God help us All?

I very much doubt that,although alot of human suffering,pain anguish,death and despair for the people at the ''butt end'' of such an invasion if it goes ahead.

My thoughts are with the people caught in the middle.

Peace

Dave

[SilentFeathers]

world war3 is on its way!
God help us All?

As sick as it would be (or even sicker than what is happening now), I don't see this as the trigger for WW3 either....just another stepping stone towards it, shaping the field of players a little bit more so to speak.

It is escalating though....


Three U.S. Navy amphibious warships are returning to the eastern Mediterranean to remain on standby in the event they are needed to assist Americans leaving Israel in the coming days, according to two U.S. officials.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/19/u-s-sends-warships-near-israel-in-case-evacuation-needed/?hpt=hp_t1

[Gaia]

Hamas attack continuously the state of Israel to the cities of the south, in the largest international media silence. It shoulds not be forgotten that Hamas and the State of Israel are two different entities, in one case a terrorist group, who does not hesitate to attack indiscriminately at civilians (mainly religion), and the other a sovereign State, who does not hesitate to attack indiscriminately at civilians (mainly religion). Israel still has work to do in terms of communication. Let 's hope this does not lead us to "World War "and financial melt-down...

[SilentFeathers]

I actually think this is a smoke screen for something much larger.....I'm keepin an eye on Turkey and Syria (and NATO) right now more so than this.

...again, when the magician is showing you a magic card in one hand, best to really keep an eye on what he's doing with his other hand....

ADDED:

This is an interesting development...


NATO member states have agreed to supply Turkey with an advanced Patriot missile system to defend against Syrian attacks and talks on its deployment are in the final stage, Turkey's foreign minister said on Tuesday.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-turkeybre8aj0fe-20121120,0,6005256.story

[Billy]

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[Gaia]

I actually think this is a smoke screen for something much larger.....I'm keepin an eye on Turkey and Syria (and NATO) right now more so than this.

...again, when the magician is showing you a magic card in one hand, best to really keep an eye on what he's doing with his other hand....

ADDED:

This is an interesting development...


NATO member states have agreed to supply Turkey with an advanced Patriot missile system to defend against Syrian attacks and talks on its deployment are in the final stage, Turkey's foreign minister said on Tuesday.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-turkeybre8aj0fe-20121120,0,6005256.story

Without trying to understand what lies behind this smokescreen if there ... From my side, I can not stand these pictures of dead Palestinian children and scenes of panic current Israeli right and left in the sound of sirens, it breaks my heart. Israelis make me think the Argentines at the edge of the Falklands War, hide the failure of a political authoritarian and corrupted by an unnecessary war against an enemy supposedly hereditary. Palestinians are completely martyred by a political class and radicalized by an occupant without mercy. They are totally lost, injured and they have nothing to lose. Think they will make is magical thinking, resist and revenge, that's all they have left. As for the Israelis, they would stop the rockets, but they are unable to calm the game more than two years at a time. Although the shelter behind their walls, they dare not enter Lebanon and Gaza knowing that hundreds of young fanatics will make a point to jump with their children just to find meaning in their lives miserable and hopeless.

[Tangri]

Is it sacrifice of some species them self to save humans from other human kind?

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[johnf]

Did any of them self immolate once they were on the beach?
That would make it more obvious.

[Tangri]

Did any of them self immolate once they were on the beach?
That would make it more obvious.

They would have done if Humans could reached nirvana while they were killing each other.

[Ammit]

This is so sad. All these beautiful creatures.
Is this due to pollution or has the depths got too hot or too cold for them to survive?

[Tangri]

This is so sad. All these beautiful creatures.
Is this due to pollution or has the depths got too hot or too cold for them to survive?

Also, isn't sad that all beautiful humans suffer for non sense politics?
http://www.turkeytribune.com/turkey-tribune/gaza-palestinian-tragedy-2.html/filistin-gazze-yikik-cami

http://www.google.ca/search?q=gaza+pictures&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=J70xUb2XMsLs2gX_n4C4CA&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=723

[Tesseract]

While it may be risky to eat washed up fish, for those Palestinians it has to be preferable to the risk of being shot by Israel in the pursuit of netting fresh fish. Plus when the child population has suffered abnormal rates of stunted growth due to the apartheid embargo on Gaza, who could blame people for taking up this free harvest?

[Lifebringer]

Let us pray God is giving them food to survive.

[PathWalker]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9977967/Gaza-police-shaving-heads-of-long-haired-youths.html

Gaza police shaving heads of long-haired youths
Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza have started grabbing young men with long or gel-styled spiky hair off the streets, bundling them into jeeps, mocking them and shaving their heads.
It is the latest sign that the Islamic militants are imposing their strict practices on the population.

Hamas has been slowly forcing its fundamentalist interpretation of the religion on already conservative Gaza since it overran the territory in 2007, but the new crackdown on long hair and tight or low-waist pants - in several cases accompanied by beatings - appears to be one of the most aggressive phases of the campaign so far.

The crackdown began last week, and two of the victims told The Associated Press they were rounded up in separate sweeps in Gaza City that included more than two dozen young men.

House painter Ayman al-Sayed, 19, had shoulder-length hair before police grabbed him and shaved his head on Thursday.

"The only thing I want to do is leave this country," said Mr al-Sayed, who despite his ordeal defiantly wore stylish but outlawed narrow-leg tan khakis. "I am scared. They just take you from the street without reason. I don't know what they are going to do next."

Hamas officials played down the campaign - a stance adopted in the past that allows the group to distance itself from a controversial crackdown while at the same time instilling fear in those it targeted.

Ziad al-Zaza, the deputy prime minister of Gaza, said the head-shaving "was a very limited, isolated behavior of the police and is not going to continue."

The Palestinian Center for Human Rights called on Hamas to investigate the "arbitrary detentions and violations of civil rights of civilians."

The hair crackdown came just days after the Hamas-run parliament in Gaza passed an education bill mandating separate classrooms for boys and girls from the age of nine.

Gender separation is already widely practiced in Gaza schools, as it is in the West Bank, where Hamas rival Mahmoud Abbas, the Western-backed Palestinian president, administers some areas.

Enshrining such separation in law marked another step forward in Hamas' campaign of imposing Islamic practice.

Do you care, for the poor Gazzans?
They elected their government.

[NewFounderHome]

They are running out of Palestinians to go after! Joke it is a Joke!

[MorningSong]

I just ran across this:


'Priceless' bronze statue of Greek god Apollo found in Gaza Strip
• Hamas officials seize statue after it appears on eBay
• Doubt cast on fisherman's claim to have found item in sea

Reuters in Gaza
theguardian.com, Monday 10 February 2014 14.42 GMT

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/10/1392043226646/A-bronze-statue-of-the-Gr-009.jpg

Lost for centuries, a rare bronze statue of the Greek god Apollo has mysteriously resurfaced in the Gaza Strip, only to be seized by police and vanish almost immediately from view.

Word of the remarkable find has caught the imagination of the world of archaeology, but the police cannot say when the life-sized bronze might re-emerge or where it might be put on display.

A local fisherman says he scooped the 500kg (1,100lb) god from the seabed last August, and carried it home on a donkey cart, unaware of the significance of his catch.

Others soon guessed at its importance, and the statue briefly appeared on eBay with a $500,000 (£300,000) price tag - well below its true value. Police from the Islamist group Hamas, which rules the isolated Palestinian territory, swiftly seized it and say they are investigating the affair.

Archaeologists have not been able to get their hands on the Apollo – to their great frustration- and instead must pore over a few blurred photographs of the intact deity, who is laid out incongruously on a blanket emblazoned with Smurfs.

From what they can tell, it was cast sometime between the 5th and the 1st century BC, making it at least 2,000 years old.

"It's unique. In some ways I would say it is priceless. It's like people asking what is the [value] of the painting La Gioconda [the Mona Lisa] in the Louvre museum," said Jean-Michel de Tarragon, a historian with the French Biblical and Archaeological School of Jerusalem.

"It's very, very rare to find a statue which is not in marble or in stone, but in metal," he told Reuters television.

The apparently pristine condition of the god suggested it was uncovered on land and not in the sea, he said, speculating that the true location of where it was unearthed was not revealed to avoid arguments over ownership.

"This wasn't found on the seashore or in the sea … it is very clean. No, it was [found] inland and dry," he said, adding that there were no signs of metal disfigurement or barnacles that one normally sees on items plucked from water.

Palestinian fisherman Joudat Ghrab tells a different tale. The 26-year-old father of two said he saw a human-like shape lying in shallow waters some 100 metres offshore, just north of the Egyptian-Gaza border.

At first he thought it was a badly burnt body, but when he dived down to take a closer look he realised it was a statue. He says it took him and his relatives four hours to drag the treasure ashore.

"I felt it was something gifted to me by God," Ghrab told Reuters. "My financial situation is very difficult and I am waiting for my reward."


Continue reading at link:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/10/priceless-bronze-statue-apollo-gaza-strip

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jnmmKhlNRI

We, the people pay for the BBC through our taxes and through licenses.

Do we really have a bond with Israel?

[Lettherebelight]

While everyone is focussing on the airplane crash, in Gaza things are continuing to go from bad to worse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28389282

[sian]

Does anyone out there know a way to get through? pm me if so.

[ghostrider]

While everyone is focussing on the airplane crash, in Gaza things are continuing to go from bad to worse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28389282

thanks for the link , leaders in the middle east still think that murdering more people will change things ... for 2,000 years it has changed nothing, maybe they should try something else ??? just a thought like , hey what are we fighting over ... or hey we will have peace when we stop having War with our neighbor...

[Jake]

Fighting for peace is an OXYMORON!!!! Israel is not defending itself,, it is murdering people. Plain and simple. US/Cabal interests condemn violent and deadly border skirmishes as they pertain to Russian interests, and support the border violence as it pertains to Israel interests,,,, and at the same time COMPLETELY ABANDON AMERICAN BORDERS, AS IF THEY DON'T MATTER!!!!!!!!!!

Down the rabbit hole we go... WEEEEEEEEEEEE.....

Jake.

[ktlight]

My perception of war is that it is stupid, lacking real intelligence. It is ugly and useless and a force that I wish did not exist on this planet.

[sirdipswitch]

Are you even aware, that prior to the 7th Century, the Hebrew people... did not exist. And everything written about them, has been written by them, from the 7th to the 11th centuries. hmm.

[Lifebringer]

So the story of Moses being a Hebrew, is a lie. This was before the 7th century, right? So this doesn't make sense. Moses and the 10 Commandments and the Exodus a lie? Written by the Hebrews. Wasn't Yesua a Hebrew also? I don't think the text before would agree w/ that statement. Not just the text, but other artifacts dating. Check again. History or HIS story is tricky, and we know who the "tricksters" represent. The seed doesn't fall far from the tree.

[Shezbeth]

So the story of Moses being a Hebrew, is a lie. This was before the 7th century, right? So this doesn't make sense. Moses and the 10 Commandments and the Exodus a lie? Written by the Hebrews. Wasn't Yesua a Hebrew also? I don't think the text before would agree w/ that statement. Not just the text, but other artifacts dating. Check again. History or HIS story is tricky, and we know who the "tricksters" represent. The seed doesn't fall far from the tree.

If you are unwilling to recognize the possibility that all the stories in question might be fabrications, that is your prerogative. Be that as it may, the issue at hand is the wholesale slaughter of a concentrated and repressed population that is being allowed to be exterminated through the apathy and largesse of major world powers who are either supporting or turning a blind's eye for a variety of reasons.

You can argue about your preferred religious stories elsewhere IMO.

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Unfortunately, I don't know that there is anything that can be done. IMO, the best that can be hoped for is that the leadership of Israel will be taken to the Hague and 'processed' under banners of "Remember Palestine".

[Realeyes]

Are you even aware, that prior to the 7th Century, the Hebrew people... did not exist. And everything written about them, has been written by them, from the 7th to the 11th centuries. hmm.

I listened to David Icke's latest pod cast snippet this afternoon, he was talking along these very lines of the 'inverted history' we have all been spoon fed. He quotes 2 books studying this particular history written by Jewish authors that back up what he has discovered in his own research and what you are mentioning. I know little about this part of history, yet intend to look into this more when I have a spare moment as it puts a very different light on these Times and stirs big questions about the Moses story ................

I am finding these Times not easy to digest and it pangs at my Soul with what is unfolding and rapidly occurring. I have been very quiet this past week as my focused attention has been on prayers, love and compassion towards the Palestinian people. I know many of humanity are focussing on the same loving intentions............. yet so many others seem to be unaware, looking the other way undisturbed, distracted on something else they deem more important.

I am not proud to be human at this moment........ rather lost for words and just wish I could do more to end this suffering.

Here is David's link jhEtCL_zkwk

[Billy]

A walk down memory lane. Pre 1948. Before the Brits handed Palestine/Jerusalem over to the Zionists. 1948 onwards. Genocide towards the Palestinians.

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[Realeyes]

I think this lady is the presenter who shortly after this broadcast resigned from RT - broadcast last week

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[Realeyes]

Pertinent words from George Galloway (UK MP) on a common question asked regarding Palestine.

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[sirdipswitch]

History tells a difrnt story if ya pay close attention. Look what happened when the Romans found that Libray at "Alexandria". Look what happened after that fiasco that Constantine came up with. ROME, the Pope, banned reading of any sort, the church was burning everything they could find... counter to Christianity. Finnally when that ban was lifted, somebody came up with that Hebrew story. Learning again became an obsession with Aristocracy, because that's all they had to do, cuz there weren't no TV. None of the great Scholars of that time period, from the 11 to the 18 Centuries could any of them find anything written by anybody concerning the Hebrew people. The Romans and the Greeks were highly meticulous record keepers, especially, about their Enemies, and yet not a word prior to the the 7th century about the Hebrew people. not a word. Everything we have written about them, has been written on paper that was not even available, "Prior" to the 7th Century.

Oh yah, and just to round it all out nicely, did you know that it has been proven that The Shroud of Turin.... covered a LIVE body!!!

Y'all need to read a bit more than you seem to be. chuckle chuckle.:wizard:

[sirdipswitch]

ISRAEL... is an Illeagal Nation.

[sirdipswitch]

OK, while ya got on a roll here... ya wnna nuther piece of the puzzle? Never mind I'll give it to ya anyway. cc.

DARWIN... gave big business, the perfect opportunity, to "Stuff" the Church. It was big business of the day, that made Darwins Theory such a slam dunk. Darwin was just as suprised as anyone, when his Theory was taken to the very top of Sosciety Worship. It freed the NONBELIEVERS, from Church RULE. And created the largest, and fastest growing Industrial Revolution, this world has ever known. Israel, was Romes idea to bring Religeon back to the fore. yep.

[Realeyes]

I love your posts sirdipswitch - keep them coming.............. I will digest deeper while off line your words. Much appreciated.

Also to those who are reading this thread - this is what is running through my mind right now, understanding the Time is right NOW in this present moment where group consciousness has divine conscious will, conscious intent & conscious power to change what is occurring in our reality.

Lets together light a radiant candle in our minds where the true light shines from within to the without.


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[wnlight]

I am not quick to dismiss the story of Moses and the exodus because that is an account of a people who committed great crimes of ethnic cleansing against the people found living in their supposed "land of milk and honey" with their ruthless actions justified by an evil, jealous god of no name. Seems to me that the Hebrew actions of today are right in character.

[sirdipswitch]

I will add this and shut up. ccc. One of the "Perks" of returning to Spirt, that I talk about on my thread, is that I have become a Personal Scanner. I can touch a book and know it. I can walk through the isles of a Library, with my fingers lightly touching the books as I walk, and KNOW them all. This is so cool to do. ccc. I had reason to do this cuz I was searching for "ONE" hidden book. Yes, I found it. What else I found, was that all that we have been taught... is wrong. I have learned by and through Communion with my High Self, that everything we think we know... is wrong. We are taught lies, from the day we are born, because our parents were taught those lies to teach us. These bodies were designed to be Immortal, but we are taught that we "Must' grow old and die. So "That" is ho w WE program them. However, even though I have done this, the material that I have given thus far, is easily searchable on the website of Sacred-Texts DOT com. They have more than 1900 ancient books and manuscripts, that does cover all of this I have given.

Israel... was designed by Rome, as part of the game to keep us in the dark about our TRUE nature. The PTB go to great lengths to keep this from us. The Nostics, whom Rome destroyed were trying to teach the Truth. And they now use ISRAEL... to keep those age old fires burning.


On a side note... cc. didja know that some of those old monestaries perched high up in those mountains of Tibet, are covering vast underground caverns? And some of those caverns house vast Libraries. Didja know they have "Written Manuscripts"... (on paper that we cannot produce today) dating back 18,000,000, years. 18 Million!!!

Yes... we have been lied to...

[wnlight]

sirdipswitch, I could have used that "Personal Scanner" technique of yours in college. LOL It would have been great with the Calculus of Variables textbook that I used to put me to sleep each night!

[Centauri]

The media would have ignored this massacre anyway. They didn't even need to remote control a plane full of dead bodies onto Ukrainian soil.

I am not ignoring it. I just don't know what the hell to do!

I keep reminding sleepers around me and they just don't care! I am pushing away a creeping illness in my stomach due to this because I REFUSE to spill out sorrow in my thoughts. I just keep visualizing an exposure event that will be so irrefutable that sleepers will be punched in the face with it. Something that will stop this.

I guess it could be called prayer. It's more like a demand. I refuse to plead to the source which is us. I demand it. I am not on my knees in sorrow. I am DEMANDING EXPOSURE!

It's just impotent. Whatever I think I'm achieving through this new-agey inaction. I want to do more. What to do?

[Realeyes]

I have just finished watching this grassroots youtube video recorded at the London protest this month where the public are demanding freedom for the Palestinians - there was a huge turnout of people, and it was warming to hear the awake public express their views from the street level with so many recognising this is a Zionist agenda. It was lovely to see so many different cultures coming together and seeing the 'truth'.

People are consciously waking up to what is happening around them in the world, all these wars are crimes against humanity, playing on humanity, and so much of humanity wants this brutality and terrorism to stop - we are all Family and wish to live in peace among our brothers and sisters. :grouphug:

I would like to make a suggestion that perhaps PA members can post what protest movements are happening in their country regarding Gaza and other unjust crimes against humanity? The more the word gets out, the faster the truth spreads.



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[Realeyes]

This is an interesting link where George Galloway answers questions from the public from all around the world telephoning in from countries such as Iraq, Libya, Canada and many other countries to discuss what is happening in Gaza.

George Galloway for those who may not know has been campaigning for the rights of the Palestinian people for many years. He reaches a vast world audience and is very much respected in the Muslim communities.

George mentions the deafening ‘silence’ from the Arab and Muslim Nations regarding the recent attack on Palestine, many of whom are now even blaming the Palestinians! Also he mentions how many of the people protesting and supporting the Palestinians demanding these war crimes to stop are non Muslim. WTF is going on??????? Where is the solidarity?

In this link George also goes into the current events Gaza is being bombarded with last week as well as some history regarding Gaza.

I admire George’s courage, compassion and constant support for the Palestinian people over these many years, something very few Politicians will even discuss in passing. The absence in mainstream media or elected politicians conveying the truth on this crisis and crimes against humanity happening in Gaza speaks volumes............ Most of what was said at the latest emergency UN meeting was a sham – shame on them, they have sold their soul and country to have humanity totally enslaved by psychopaths.

The propaganda wheels are spinning at full pelt – the public are becoming consciously aware of these agendas and see through the woven lies intended to divide and separate us into greater enslavement rather than the actions to promote prosperity and betterment for all of humanity.

Humanity is Family and has always been family, it is time to reunite ourselves with our World Family. :grouphug:

Palestine you are family, I soul-fully care about you and your loved ones and so do so many others around the world! You are in our focused prayers; you have not been forgotten, nor will be forgotten. May God speed your liberty and Freedom. :wizard:


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[Maia Gabrial]

OMG! This woman doesn't seem to know anything when the questions concern Gaza. Is she acting this stupid on purpose? See what you think:

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What does this say about the US State Department? Pathetic. But that's just my opinion....

[SilentFeathers]

Seems the "signs" <slash> "prophecies" of the 4 blood moons is not just a fairy tale or myth.

Regardless, this has spun outta control.

I'm concerned about many pockets of extremists retaliating over this and not only targeting Israel, but the US and UK, and other western interests as well.

[sirdipswitch]

Hey wnlight!!! Y awanna know sompthin that will reallyirritate ya? Just think about all the "PARTYTIME" ya missed by not havin that ability. ccc.

Realeyes... Centauri... "WHAT" to do??!! I do feel your Pain... and... would like you to know, that your thoughts are not wasted. You ARE, doing something!!!!

You have the greatest TOOL this world has ever known, right at your very fingertips, and ARE using it to tell the WORLD just how much all this war enrages you.

HEY PEOPLE... THINK... what are we doing ... RIGHT NOW....??? We are telling the world how WE feel... we have thousands of people from around the world reading everything we post on this subject, and are telling those very people that we... the AMERICAN people are just as sick as them with all of this warmongering BUllcrap that OUR governments are doing around the world. Thousands of them reading this, that may not even be members here, but do read what we say here.

Listen up folks... this is to ALL of YOU... we are sick of WAR.

This here "Internet thingy", is bringing us together from around the world. WE ALL... now have the ability to talk with one another around the world, to learn that WE THE PEOPLE... are of one mind. Yep, we are. Doesn't matter where we live, that's just geography, we all think alike. WE all want the very same things for ourselves and our POSTERITY. We move beyond goverance to talk with each other on personal note. Yep. Do you not pay attention to what we are doing here???????

WE THE PEOPLE of THE WORLD... do NOT want WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I AM YOU... and YOU ARE ME... we all think the very same things. We are just people tryin to get along on this ol rock we call Earth. That's it. We don't need to fight anyone to enjoy being... a Being here.

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[Christine]

Listening to this video I wept with Max Igan..

YES! PEOPLE! Time to make our voices heard, if not now there won't be a when.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hqQMhDvppk

[spiritguide]

sorry piece of spokes person that can't understand english. All gov depts operate as the VA can't you see, sop is delay, deny before they die. Throw them all out.

[cursichella1]

OMG! This woman doesn't seem to know anything when the questions concern Gaza. Is she acting this stupid on purpose? See what you think:


What does this say about the US State Department? Pathetic. But that's just my opinion....

I share your opinion. This woman is sticking to her talking points and attempting to make reporters with good questions look like morons - by wearing them down. She's not an idiot, just an experienced 'spin doctor' towing the company line. I've seen her before - she's always like this. Note the lifeless look in her eyes, the slow, deliberate attempt to thwart... This is absolutely disgusting, as usual.

[Milneman]

1:30 - 1:46

Probably going to take flack for this but:


I wonder how the world would react if instead of Hamas that was elected in Palestinian elections it was Al Qaeda?

Bill recently said in a video post that this forum is a microcosm of the world, and I think he's right. I think when you have individuals with polarized views making judgements about events thousands of miles away, on both sides in the conflict, people miss the point completely. It doesn't matter who's shooting who. People are shooting. That's the goal. That's what the conflict is meant to distract you from noticing.

Step out of the conflict: step out of which side is right, and which side is wrong. BOTH sides are wrong, and both sides are RIGHT. You have a government "protecting its people". You also have a terrorist group (listen, we can argue semantics here, but look at the history here) risking the lives of it's own people, knowing the goliath next door will kill civilians, for its own political end.

SO who should cast the first stone against whom here?

Ukraine, Palestine, Israel, Russia, it's all the same pile of horse ****e. The little conflicts you see here on the forum are the microcosmic conflicts that make guns and missiles fly out there in the big world we're all living in. You pick a side, you might as well be shooting a gun.

Step out of this!!! You claim that there is a 1% running the world, and yet you play right into the mind set they want you to be in! This is why the 99% are enslaved, and why it's so difficult to step out.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves for being so ignorant of your ignorance.

Stop it!

[Realeyes]

I would like to bump this interview for the attention of all those who call themselves lightworkers, starseeds, indigos, old souls, E.T., spiritual people etc who have a deep soul sense that they came to this Earth at this particular time not only for their own soul growth but to also assist Humanity and Earth in these changing conscious Times too. I humbly sense this is one of those pivotal ‘present’ moments where our loving high frequency conscious energy and intentional focus is required.

I am an empath, so I am not one to usually keep up with everyday political news etc - however when my empathic senses turn up on high volume (as they did 2 weeks ago) I 'Know' my highest conscious focussed attention is required on something stirring that potentially could create big ripples affecting humanity, future timelines and Earth. I am sure there are a number of us on PA who has empathically picked this up over the last 2 weeks. I completely empathise with Max Igan as he begins this interview, I empathically sense the ripples throughout my beingness too.

The majority of the interview covers most of the history leading up to where we are now in our present. It is an education of facts that I wish the whole world would get the opportunity to hear so they can see clearly what is really happening before our very 3D eyes. If everyone saw the truth, it would be a massive game changer.

Most members on PA are aware of how dramatically 'life' changed around the world for humanity after 911 where our privacy, liberty and human rights were stripped away under the guise of terrorism and national security. ‘Terrorism’ became the daily buzz word burrowing into our psyche where doubt and mistrust became the norm of daily life and smiles with strangers stopped. This separation destroyed relationships with people, relationships with our brethren, dividing cultures as fear suppressed the happy social loving beings we use to be. It happened so fast that very few saw it coming.

Today I am hoping we have become more astute, aware and conscious................How our present time unfolds will reveal if this is true.

What is happening Now in our present time imho is rolling out the next deadly stage of the agenda that has very, very grave consequences to All our futures and generations to come IF humanity does nothing.


As Max said in the interview, (paraphrasing from my brief notes)

‘This is the worst war crime in present history while the world cheers’ (relating to people believing it is ridding the world of terrorism).

‘The way of Palestine is the way of the World’.

‘If they get away with this televised to the world – what can’t they do?’

‘If it is allowed to happen, they will do this anywhere in the world......... This opens the floodgates for human genocide’

‘We have to pay attention to the propaganda – we can fix this’.

I know within my soul that when humanity unites Consciously together we have the power of consciousness to change this.

Right now as I write this there are somewhere around 2 million people crammed into a ‘walled prison’ 25 x 5 mile area being completely terrorised – and have been for years. I think Max said 900,000 are children.

60,000 soldiers with their Tanks are now in Palestine bulldozing their homes, shooting them down, and testing out horrendous weapons on them (if you listen to the interview you will hear about this.) Their water infrastructure has been destroyed so there is no water, there is no food left; there is nowhere to escape, no hills or fields to run away and take shelter from this onslaught as they are completely walled in! Are you able to imagine this scene?

Our world governments of the NWO agenda are justifying these actions constantly blaming the Palestinians! Many people are watching their T.V.’s believing this is ridding Palestine of the so called terrorists – BUT not realising that ‘anyone’ who disagrees with the world’s governments policies and views are deemed a terrorist!

Palestine is filled with civilians, it has become a compact refugee camp as their land has been unjustly stolen as the world just watched over the years.

Those bright lights in the sky the TV news broadcasts tonight into peoples rooms are not pretty fireworks, these are deadly rockets and bullets targeting defenceless civilians many of which are young children – these are our brethren, yet they won’t have the luxury of a good night sleep in a safe and cosy bed tonight.

I apologise if I offend anyone for expressing my passion and compassion on this matter, I just want to make it clear this is not a Holywood movie; this is real happening right now to our family members. I implore anyone reading this post to please watch the below interview Christine posted, there is so much information contained within it there is bound to be information you were not aware of before joining more dots together. We all need to wake up and get educated fast........................ what is happening in Palestine today will be the world tomorrow. If one wondered how Agenda 21 was going to be implemented we now have our answer.

I really do not want this time period of humanity to be remembered in history for the people who sat back in apathy and watched genocide on their own kind and did nothing........................ I soul-fully focus on being a part of the history where humanity claimed their divine power back and re-remembered their loving nature, compassion and unconditional love that recognises All Life is precious and Family, Soul and Spirit.

For myself, I will continue to focus on my brothers and sisters in Palestine regaining their liberty and freedom; AND for the rest of our extended Family around the world too.

In the Present, BEing Present, I know with 'divine will' we can consciously rise above the progenitor gods the ptb worship and are themselves enslaved to who are ordered to create wars to feed their hungry dimensional gods the energetic human trauma it creates. This cannot continue, humanity can rise above this IF we put our fabulous minds to it.

We are Humans (Hu-Man = God-man) let’s re-remember who we BE and walk like a god once more.
:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::w izard:

Much love I send to all of my extended family around the world.
Realeyes X

PS. Christine have you thought about starting a new thread with this interview link being the OP so that more people will hopefully get to view it?



Listening to this video I wept with Max Igan..

YES! PEOPLE! Time to make our voices heard, if not now there won't be a when.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hqQMhDvppk

[Milneman]

You want change?

THIS is how you make change. This WORKS. Not missiles, or rocks, or tanks, or suicide bombers. If Palestinians want a homeland as desperately as Hamas claims, then begin to fight THIS way.

I'm really hoping that those of you who have posted who get really angry, or emotional about this subject will take the time to watch the entire movie.

5hS1YWtalPY

[loungelizard]

1:30 - 1:46

Probably going to take flack for this but:


I wonder how the world would react if instead of Hamas that was elected in Palestinian elections it was Al Qaeda?

Bill recently said in a video post that this forum is a microcosm of the world, and I think he's right. I think when you have individuals with polarized views making judgements about events thousands of miles away, on both sides in the conflict, people miss the point completely. It doesn't matter who's shooting who. People are shooting. That's the goal. That's what the conflict is meant to distract you from noticing.

Step out of the conflict: step out of which side is right, and which side is wrong. BOTH sides are wrong, and both sides are RIGHT. You have a government "protecting its people". You also have a terrorist group (listen, we can argue semantics here, but look at the history here) risking the lives of it's own people, knowing the goliath next door will kill civilians, for its own political end.

SO who should cast the first stone against whom here?

Ukraine, Palestine, Israel, Russia, it's all the same pile of horse ****e. The little conflicts you see here on the forum are the microcosmic conflicts that make guns and missiles fly out there in the big world we're all living in. You pick a side, you might as well be shooting a gun.

Step out of this!!! You claim that there is a 1% running the world, and yet you play right into the mind set they want you to be in! This is why the 99% are enslaved, and why it's so difficult to step out.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves for being so ignorant of your ignorance.

Stop it!

Wow. Thanks. :hug:

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Is she human? looks like one of those androids they use for MSM...

[Snowflower]

I question the humanness of the speaking thing.

[Christine]

This MOMENT is not about the Palestinian people or Hamas.. this moment is about ALL of US.. PEACE will only COME as WE BEcome the emanating force that IS PEACE.

OUR very EARTH is asking us to focus intent.. where we are needed most. Words are not enough, it is time that as HUMAN BEINGS we make our PRESENCE KNOWN. So where are all the people walking hand in hand and sitting in civil disobedience?

I love Gandhi and now is the time we must all BE Gandhi.

The only Real question a person can ask is WHAT AM I DOING? My passion is focused on PEACE, real COMPASSION is KNOWING that everyone of those who are slaughtered are part of me.



You want change?

THIS is how you make change. This WORKS. Not missiles, or rocks, or tanks, or suicide bombers. If Palestinians want a homeland as desperately as Hamas claims, then begin to fight THIS way.

I'm really hoping that those of you who have posted who get really angry, or emotional about this subject will take the time to watch the entire movie.

5hS1YWtalPY

[Hervé]

May I suggest to anyone on this thread to read the transcripts linked to in this thread:

True Cabal Insider, Dr. Richard Day, Delivers Talk in 1969 Outlining 'the Full Agenda' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73054-True-Cabal-Insider-Dr.-Richard-Day-Delivers-Talk-in-1969-Outlining-the-Full-Agenda)

It is all part of that "agenda" whether it is Gaza or the Ukraine or Mexico or Iraq: the rooting out of people from their national purpose and traditional way of life.

But all that is also concomitant to other, concerted attacks on all civilizations starting with the disappearance of hard copy, original books, not unlike what is discussed on this very thread!

[Christine]

Thank you Amzer Zo.. and I couldn't agree more. I listened to this talk just two days ago.

The WHOLE point is that we have to draw our line in the sand somewhere…Yes, the book burning and the confiscation and destruction of our most ancient knowledge sites, it is all going on as I write these words.

How do we move past apathy? It is so prevalent, so suffocating. We need to be visible and on the streets and all the wave lengths now.



May I suggest to anyone on this thread to read the transcripts linked to in this thread:

True Cabal Insider, Dr. Richard Day, Delivers Talk in 1969 Outlining 'the Full Agenda' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73054-True-Cabal-Insider-Dr.-Richard-Day-Delivers-Talk-in-1969-Outlining-the-Full-Agenda)

It is all part of that "agenda" whether it is Gaza or the Ukraine or Mexico or Iraq: the rooting out of people from their national purpose and traditional way of life.

But all that is also concomitant to other, concerted attacks on all civilizations starting with the disappearance of hard copy, original books, not unlike what is discussed on this very thread!

[Roisin]

http://skinnyllamaproductions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/world-of-love.jpg

السلام علي < ---> עליכם השלום

[Hervé]

[...]
I would like to make a suggestion that perhaps PA members can post what protest movements are happening in their country regarding Gaza and other unjust crimes against humanity? The more the word gets out, the faster the truth spreads.
[...]

Here is one sad part:


... (sigh)...

... there we go:

Outrage as France become first country in world to ban pro-Palestine demonstrations (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697194/Outrage-France-country-world-ban-pro-Palestine-demos.html)

Peter Allen, Daily Mail, UK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697194/Outrage-France-country-world-ban-pro-Palestine-demos.html)
Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:52 CDT


http://www.sott.net/image/s9/195521/large/article_0_1FAB657100000578_304.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s9/195521/full/article_0_1FAB657100000578_304.jpg)
Pro-Palestinian demonstrators take to the streets of Paris on Sunday. France's socialist government has sparked uproar after it banned protests against Israeli action in Palestine



* Move follows violence at protests in Paris last weekend

* Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said there was a 'threat to public order'

* Thousands across France were set to march again this weekend

* Anyone who breaks the ban faces a year in prison and a 15,000 euro fine.

* If they hide their faces the sentence can be increased to three years jail, and a 45,000 euro fine

France's Socialist government provoked outrage today by becoming the first in the world to ban protests against Israeli action in Palestine.

In what is viewed as an outrageous attack on democracy, Socialist Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said mass demonstrations planned for the weekend should be halted.

Mr Cazeneuve said there was a 'threat to public order', while opponents said he was 'criminalising' popular support of the Palestinian people.

Thousands were set to march against the ongoing slaughter in Gaza, calling for an immediate end to hostilities in which civilians including many children have been killed.

But Mr Cazeneuve fears there might be a repeat of the fights between 'ultra' Jewish vigilantes and pro-Palestinians which happened after a demonstration last Sunday.

Referring to the main Paris march, Mr Cazeneuve said: 'I consider that the conditions are not right to guarantee security.'

He welcomed a legal procedure instigated by the Paris police prefecture to ban the march, despite it already being widely advertised.

Anyone who turns up to an illegal demonstration now faces up to a year in prison, and a 15,000 euro fine.

[...]

However:

Paris activists clash with police following ban on pro-Palestinian rallies (PHOTOS, VIDEO) (http://rt.com/news/174132-france-palestine-ban-clashes/)

Published time: July 19, 2014 22:27
Edited time: July 20, 2014 13:24 Get short URL (http://rt.com/news/174132-france-palestine-ban-clashes/)


http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2a/83/40/00/rtr3zclp.si.jpg
Pro-Palestinian protesters face police during a demonstration against violence in the Gaza strip, which had been banned by police, in Paris, July 19, 2014. (Reuters / Philippe Wojazer)


A demonstration in Paris in support of Palestinians has resulted in several injuries and at least 38 arrests as activists clashed with riot police who used tear gas to disperse an unsanctioned rally that gathered despite a government ban on such rallies.

Demonstration in Paris against the Israeli military operation in Gaza strip, which recently escalated into a ground invasion, took place despite Friday's municipal government ban (http://rt.com/news/173412-france-palestinian-israel-protest/). Operation Edge in the twelfth day (http://rt.com/news/173708-israel-gaza-ground-operation/) of the Israeli offensive on Gaza has so far claimed the lives of 342 Palestinians, with at least 46 people killed on Saturday alone.

Organizers estimate that up to 10,000 people attended the rally organised by the New Anti-Capitalist Party (NPA), among others. The protesters gathered in Barbes, in the Montmartre area and Opera Square.

[...]


Full article: http://rt.com/news/174132-france-palestine-ban-clashes/

[Roisin]

It's time for another Jewish Diaspora and because WE are the ones responsible for the vast number of Jews being forced to move to Israel to escape the Nazis, America and all other country's out there should open their doors to any Israeli who wants to relocate to their country.

Then give that land back in the Middle East to the Palestinians. There will be no peace in the Middle East or the world for that matter, unless this happens but it's going to take the entire world community.... to make it happen.

[Marin]

...In the Present, BEing Present, I know with 'divine will' we can consciously rise above the progenitor gods the ptb worship and are themselves enslaved to who are ordered to create wars to feed their hungry dimensional gods the energetic human trauma it creates. This cannot continue, humanity can rise above this IF we put our fabulous minds to it.

We are Humans (Hu-Man = God-man) let’s re-remember who we BE and walk like a god once more.


Much love I send to all of my extended family around the world.
Realeyes X


Thank you Realeyes. I feel your words. I'm guessing there are many here who feel them too.

I wanted to share something that I read the other day - as it pertains to what you mentioned above.

The book:The Great Shift Co-Creating a New World for the 2012 and Beyond
Part Two: Mary Magdalene and the Hathors (page97)
This section was written by Judy Sion and channeled through Tom Kenyon.



Question, Judy Sion: If you could give a message to every woman at this time, what would it be?

(Answer: Mary Magdalene)

"I would say this to each woman: Find the courage to speak your truth. The return of the goddess is through each woman's heart and mind. Through the act of speaking your truth, the world will change.

I say to each woman, find the courage to open the door. Don't leave it locked! The door I speak of is the door to the heart, for the woman holds in her heart a fierce truth. But only when it is shared or spoken can the world change. This is the touch of the goddess.

Woman have been trained to remain silent, to ask for permission. In this time, those women who find the courage (must) give themselves permission in speaking the truth that lies within the heart, whether it be joyful or full of sadness, content or full of anger.

This truth must be expressed. It must be spoken. And it must be listened to if this world is to change and if this world is to survive. There are levels upon levels in this.

....Find the courage to speak."




Question, Judy Sion: And to every Man?


…"To every man I would say: Find the strength to bear the truth of your women. You have been trained not to listen, not to hear, not to recognize. You must change these attributes. Your world and your lives are in danger of being lost.

Listen to your own heart; the answers to your dilemmas do not lie solely in the mind. You have been trained not to listen to your feelings and do not recognize them as valid or import but they are a crucial part of your knowingness...."


In the end, the choice is ours. What can we do? What will we do? Individually and Collectively.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

The Balfour Declaration is nice to Google, just a tip and a nice place to start, add Chatham house and you are getting closer, good luck., dig bit deeper then for example Leon Uris his book 'Exodus", some piece of propaganda is that, great drama though, of course the regular Jews back then fell for it too, seriously, Google Balfour Declaration and get into the how, why, who, economics and you will see some serious murderous power horny bastards stick up their heads to feast on death, destruction, terror, power, serious links to royalty here, such filth.

[dianna]

GLOBAL BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL NOW
http://thomassheridanofficialblog.blogspot.ie

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lIuGtuM9bRM/U85dmzvU-AI/AAAAAAAADHo/JPla93rWDto/s1600/barcode.jpg


I am going to call for a Global Boycott of all Israeli products and exports. This will include products and items produced by corporations in the Untied States and elsewhere, owned and operated by openly Christian Zionists who are supporting this bull**** in Gaza.

It was not that long ago that I wanted to go to Israel and meet with other artists in the hope of showing the world that meeting with real humans was still our best option for peace. I no longer feel this way.

If anyone has information on links relating to products exported from Israel, including bar codes, contractors who sub-contract out to Israeli companies etc. We need this information so we can get started.

It won't be easy and even if you can only stop purchasing one item made in Israel and replacing it with one made in your own country it is a start. This is not a competition to prove who is the mostest-boycotter. A start is a start

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ycl5T6jeyP4/U853jyxoI-I/AAAAAAAADH4/KYZvzEFE2G0/s1600/729.jpg


GLOBAL BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL NOW

(ps: no Jew bashing please) and just so people know, I am not pro Hamas or give a **** about the Palestinian state/leadership. I am only pointing out who has the most ability to murder the most innocent people and this is why I am Boycotting Israel.

You will never see me wave a Palestinian flag any more than an Israeli one. I have seen some well intentioned people waving Palestinian flags and duped into using Palestinian flag avatars/profile pics. This is about human beings, and not governments.

I have no doubt that Israel would be destroyed by Palestinian Government Troops if the tables were turned and that would be just as evil. All you have to do is look at the viciousness of the Arab League in 1967 towards Israel. This boycott is only about saving innocent lives, and not politics or religions.


from Israel Export.org

Annex
Burdines
Bon Marche
Bon Ton
Carson Pirie Scott
Casual Corner Mall
Chico's shops
Gap
Macy's
Marshals
Parisian
Petite Sophisticates
Proffitts and Yunkers
Rich's
T J Maxx

Consumer Products from Israel

Food

Elite (chocolate, candy)
Telma (grocery food)
Pastures of Eden (goat cheese)
Gilboa Beit Ha****a (pickled vegetables, olives)
Beigle & Beigle (pretzels & crackers)
Achva (halva, sesame products)
Galilee Herbs
Kvuzat Yavne (pickled vegetables, olives)
Olivia (gourmet herbs, spices, olive oil, spreads, sauces)
Osem (grocery food)
Sabra Salads
Wissotzky Tea
Moshe & Ali (spreads)
Golan (beverages)
Carmel (beverages)
Tempo (beverages)
Tnuva (cheese)
Produce & Flowers

Skin Care

Ahava (Dead Sea Skin Care Products)
Masada (Dead Sea Skin Care Products)
Mineral Care (Dead Sea Skin Care Products)
Sea Of Life (Dead Sea Skin Care Products)

Apparel

Women's Wear

Dorin Frankfurt
Kedem Sasson
Ronen Chen
Ginza
Hagara
Reuma
Sigal Dekel
Roni Rabl

Swimwear

Gottex
Diva
Lagouf

Children's Wear

Sara's Prints
Baby Steps

Footwear

Naot (sandals)

Jewellery

Ayala Bar
Avi Soffer
Dori Csengeri
Neta & Eyal
Trades of the East

Toys

Edushape Ltd.
Educational Toys (sells to schools only)

[Snowflower]

Makes it easy for me - I don't buy any of those products anyway.

I had to stop the interview for awhile. Empathy hurts.

[Realeyes]

I implore everyone reading this thread to watch this very powerful and moving short link where an ex Israeli soldier breaks his silence of what he learned during his duty in Palestine – it drastically changed his views and life as he realised he was on the wrong side and history (the holocaust) was repeating itself.

God bless this man for his courage for breaking the silence of what is really going on.

Lets join together around the world and create a greater Future and Dream for humanity.

:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

(Below are my personal notes for those who have limited broadband width or time).

Months into his duty in Palestine, Eran Efrati (aged 19) witness such injustice that he became a secret activist joining Palestinian protests when he was off duty. He got to experience the other side becoming the firing target of rubber bullets (rubber bullets are steel bullets just coated in rubber); experienced tear gas that makes one choke unable to breathe.

The Israeli army is basically making sure on a legal aspect that it is ‘protect’ from every angle – nobody can complain.

He then starts helping ‘Doctors without boarders’ sneaking out of the barracks at night handing Palestinians in their homes the medical permits and medicine they need. This is what it is like living under military occupation.

He then hears about a little group where other soldiers are breaking the silence sharing the truth of what is happening inside this occupied territory; as soon as he is released from the army he joins them becoming their chief investigator. They tried to get their stories published so the Israeli people could understand what is really happening – but their stories were ‘censored’. Only certain global news papers would publish, yet they too were censored in parts.

As he continues to research occupation all he kept finding was ‘money’.................... in 2010 he discovered the Israeli government and military are selling a new type of teargas canister weapon, the most deadliest ever to the Singapore police to fight their protesters in their country.

Suddenly he realises the Israeli military have been trying out their weapons everyday on the Palestinian people (not in laboratories) to then sell (as tested) to the outside world.

Going deeper down the rabbit hole he then realises there were undercover Israeli units in Palestine starting/ provoking the riots, starting something so that the Israeli army had a good excuse to test out these weapons!

He lists the dictator regimes that the Israeli government for the last 40 years has traded weapon with, technology with or training their soliders. He discovered the Israeli military have been part of the regime wars around the world and making a killing out of it literally by making so much money.

Then he understood: this is not an occupation it is a laboratory! It was not about religion or the land – it is about a lot, a lot of money.

He since moved to New York and spent the next 3 years researching the relationship between the Israeli army and American army, Israeli government and American government and all the money that flows in the middle. By a chance incident he discovers the American police are being trained over in Israel by the Isrealian army – under the guise to ‘working to together’ to 'protect'.

What is going on in Palestine is a humanitarian crisis. History is knocking really loud on our door right now in Palestine and all of you need to be on the right side of this humanitarian case.

If you do not care about the Palestinians after this lecture, I do not care. If you don’t care about us Israeli’s asking for your help about the Palestine regime in Israel I am fine about that also. BUT you should know YOU ARE NEXT IN LINE.


The next one will die with a tear canister in his chest – it is already happening in this country (U.S.) to immigrants – you guys are next in line! Your police are training with our Israeli army who is training them to take care of the ‘enemy’ (public). Palestinians are their enemy – YOU are their ENEMY.

While you and I are taking care of our communities, the government and the police are organising together mobiley to oppress us. We need to start organising non-violently globally to resist them and that starts in Palestine RIGHT NOW.


93hqlmrZKd8


[You tube summary]
Published on 8 Mar 2014

The talk by Eran Efrati was filmed in Denver, Colorado on March 3, 2014 as part of The Soldier and the Refusenik U.S. tour with Maya Wind. Eran talk about his experiences in the IDF and then more broadly discusses Israel, its relationship to the U.S. and the global expansion of militarism.

Eran Efrati, 28, was born and raised in Jerusalem. After graduating high school he enlisted in the IDF, where he served as a combat soldier and company sergeant in Battalion 50 of the Nachal Division. He spent most of his service in Hebron and throughout the West Bank. In 2009, he was discharged and joined Breaking the Silence, an organization of veteran Israeli soldiers working to raise awareness about the daily reality in the Occupied Territories. He worked as the chief investigator of the organization, collecting testimonies from IDF soldiers about their activities. He also guided political tours and to the West Bank and worked to educate Israeli youth about the reality of being a soldier in an occupying army. His collected testimonies appear in the booklet "Operation Cast Lead" and their most recent release "Our Harsh Logic". Since leaving Breaking the Silence, his investigative reports appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Guardian. Today he is active with the Israeli groups Anarchists Against the Wall and Boycott from Within.

http://www.soldierandrefusenik.com/

[Hervé]

[...]

this is not an occupation it is a laboratory! It was not about religion or the land – it is about a lot, a lot of money.

[...]

That, sadly, sums it up... a laboratory for many types of experiments including psychological and which have been exported worldwide but especially in the U.S. of A.: Police brutality added to outrageous court rulings, etc...

[Roisin]

I have been privy to information on some of the things that covert agencies do in in their collaboration with Mossad that I can't divulge though this is not to say that it's really in-depth information anyway that most here are not already aware of wrt to kind of behind the scene things they do to get their information, is the following.... (Needless to say, the Palestinians are at a distinct disadvantage in terms of direct access.)

The bottom line is that the Palestinian Israeli conflict is just another proxy war between the US and Russia in terms of world domination and greed (the sale of arms). Of course there's a whole lot more to all of this but like anything else, if you want to get to the bottom of any given regional conflict, follow the money.

Below is the list of those country's that are the top arms exporters in the world.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/A99_x/armsdealers.jpg

[ktlight]

And the arms sales coincide with drugs distribution worldwide.

[Sidney]

Genocide is occurring openly. Mass murder, in many countries. This is the New World Holocaust. And silence fills my own neighborhood. No one wants to talk, or hear about it. This is such a sad sad hour for our planet and all inhabitants.

I believe I am reaching that point (as brought up on another thread) of Surrender. My heart simply has run out of fight. Trying to come up with ideas,solutions, answers, while fighting my own fight at home. It is a daunting task to just find non poisonous things to eat every day, and these problems seem so massive that my heart is on overload, seeing/reading listening to all of the pains of the world.

It feels like Gaia is trying to give birth, to a still born that refuses to make its way down the birth canal. And we are all stuck, in this frozen state of upheaval. I am truly at a loss for words, or actions. So many things, coming at us from all directions. I feel like the man in the video. Ranting inside, yet paralyzed by the same emotions.

I am asking source to please help. Nothing specific. But I am saying outnloud to source, Gaza, and everyone, everywhere, needs help. It is overwhelming.
It is the only thing I know to do at this point.

[Realeyes]

Well written Sidney....................... I know exactly what you say, I too have spent many nights over the years in long focus demanding to Source that help is needed 'right here'. I am usually a D.I.Y. soul, seldom asking for assistance, yet sometimes it gets too overwhelming; the picture gets so big, where hope is clasping onto a wisp of a thread. (Interestingly, during such times, if I spin in consciousness just a little higher is where I have had instant magic or manifestations......... I am finding it interesting observing how the 'gear changes' work - this is continuous work in progress). ;)

Speaking for myself, I knew this Timeline would not be easy................ to be honest it has progressed/turned much darker than I thought would be allowed - BUT this was just 'me' (the smaller perspective of Self) not yet connecting to an even deeper re-rememberance where my soul/spirit understood the huge (yet rewarding) challenges of these times we are in right now and the soul-full greater potentials and awesome opportunities this pivitol Time offers if we consciously rise above this. :wizard:

Thank you again for your post, you expressed most elequently. :kiss:

Ps. I often remove myself from the internet when I get overwhelmed. I find walking in Nature helps to restore balance within me as well as inner meditation and soul-full willful focus placing my intentions into my reality creating a future destination point that benefits all. :wizard:



Genocide is occurring openly. Mass murder, in many countries. This is the New World Holocaust. And silence fills my own neighborhood. No one wants to talk, or hear about it. This is such a sad sad hour for our planet and all inhabitants.

I believe I am reaching that point (as brought up on another thread) of Surrender. My heart simply has run out of fight. Trying to come up with ideas,solutions, answers, while fighting my own fight at home. It is a daunting task to just find non poisonous things to eat every day, and these problems seem so massive that my heart is on overload, seeing/reading listening to all of the pains of the world.

It feels like Gaia is trying to give birth, to a still born that refuses to make its way down the birth canal. And we are all stuck, in this frozen state of upheaval. I am truly at a loss for words, or actions. So many things, coming at us from all directions. I feel like the man in the video. Ranting inside, yet paralyzed by the same emotions.

I am asking source to please help. Nothing specific. But I am saying outnloud to source, Gaza, and everyone, everywhere, needs help. It is overwhelming.
It is the only thing I know to do at this point.

[RunningDeer]

Genocide is occurring openly. Mass murder, in many countries. This is the New World Holocaust. And silence fills my own neighborhood. No one wants to talk, or hear about it. This is such a sad sad hour for our planet and all inhabitants.

I believe I am reaching that point (as brought up on another thread) of Surrender. My heart simply has run out of fight. Trying to come up with ideas,solutions, answers, while fighting my own fight at home. It is a daunting task to just find non poisonous things to eat every day, and these problems seem so massive that my heart is on overload, seeing/reading listening to all of the pains of the world.

It feels like Gaia is trying to give birth, to a still born that refuses to make its way down the birth canal. And we are all stuck, in this frozen state of upheaval. I am truly at a loss for words, or actions. So many things, coming at us from all directions. I feel like the man in the video. Ranting inside, yet paralyzed by the same emotions.

I am asking source to please help. Nothing specific. But I am saying outnloud to source, Gaza, and everyone, everywhere, needs help. It is overwhelming.
It is the only thing I know to do at this point.


am not ignoring it. I just don't know what the hell to do!

I want to do more. What to do?

Sidney your post echoes what I’ve been going through. The same with Centauri.

Every time, I ask, “How? or what?” I keep coming back to “Be the power, the Love, I’m discovering and acknowledge within”. It spreads.

I’ve been unsuccessful with sharing information. Though because of Avalon, I’ve learned how to share differently when others play the devil’s advocate. I understand they’re curious, but not quite enough to find out more on their own. In fairness, I recall early on how it was a natural process where curiosity trumped denial and fear.

It was a good 3-4 years, in the early 90’s, where I had no time to watch TV because of a distant relationship, work, and martial arts training. I returned from a summer in Europe and turned on the local news. It had changed to an escalation of violence, brutality for the smallest disagreements, dark, and gore. I thought it was for ratings. But now I understand differently. It’s one example of how over these 25+ years we’ve been programmed. An entire generation(s) knows no different than life of cruelty, blood shed and war.

It angers and saddens me because I know it’s been longer than 25+ year. We’re busy with personal milestones, challenges, choices and changes. Many of which have been to counter this overlay and escalation of an unnatural society.

What keeps me going is the knowledge that this fabricated picture has the potential to turn in nano-seconds. Once enough reach out and say ‘no more’, and make it loud enough for their neighbors to be shaken out of their hypnotic programs, we’ll be on our way to rebuild.

It’s the people like those of Avalon that have the kind of light to jumpstart others recall of why they are here. The rebuilding phase will quicken because manifestation of thoughts, ideas, and material will be of a different vibration. One that equals our natural birthright.

RunningDeer <3

[Sidney]

Well written Sidney....................... I know exactly what you say, I too have spent many nights over the years in long focus demanding to Source that help is needed 'right here'. I am usually a D.I.Y. soul, seldom asking for assistance, yet sometimes it gets too overwhelming; the picture gets so big, where hope is clasping onto a wisp of a thread. (Interestingly, during such times, if I spin in consciousness just a little higher is where I have had instant magic or manifestations......... I am finding it interesting observing how the 'gear changes' work - this is continuous work in progress). ;)

Speaking for myself, I knew this Timeline would not be easy................ to be honest it has progressed/turned much darker than I thought would be allowed - BUT this was just 'me' (the smaller perspective of Self) not yet connecting to an even deeper re-rememberance where my soul/spirit understood the huge (yet rewarding) challenges of these times we are in right now and the soul-full greater potentials and awesome opportunities this pivitol Time offers if we consciously rise above this. :wizard:

Thank you again for your post, you expressed most elequently. :kiss:

Ps. I often remove myself from the internet when I get overwhelmed. I find walking in Nature helps to restore balance within me as well as inner meditation and soul-full willful focus placing my intentions into my reality creating a future destination point that benefits all. :wizard:



Genocide is occurring openly. Mass murder, in many countries. This is the New World Holocaust. And silence fills my own neighborhood. No one wants to talk, or hear about it. This is such a sad sad hour for our planet and all inhabitants.

I believe I am reaching that point (as brought up on another thread) of Surrender. My heart simply has run out of fight. Trying to come up with ideas,solutions, answers, while fighting my own fight at home. It is a daunting task to just find non poisonous things to eat every day, and these problems seem so massive that my heart is on overload, seeing/reading listening to all of the pains of the world.

It feels like Gaia is trying to give birth, to a still born that refuses to make its way down the birth canal. And we are all stuck, in this frozen state of upheaval. I am truly at a loss for words, or actions. So many things, coming at us from all directions. I feel like the man in the video. Ranting inside, yet paralyzed by the same emotions.

I am asking source to please help. Nothing specific. But I am saying outnloud to source, Gaza, and everyone, everywhere, needs help. It is overwhelming.
It is the only thing I know to do at this point.

Thank you Realeyes. Many hugs back at you!!!:hug:

[Sidney]

Genocide is occurring openly. Mass murder, in many countries. This is the New World Holocaust. And silence fills my own neighborhood. No one wants to talk, or hear about it. This is such a sad sad hour for our planet and all inhabitants.

I believe I am reaching that point (as brought up on another thread) of Surrender. My heart simply has run out of fight. Trying to come up with ideas,solutions, answers, while fighting my own fight at home. It is a daunting task to just find non poisonous things to eat every day, and these problems seem so massive that my heart is on overload, seeing/reading listening to all of the pains of the world.

It feels like Gaia is trying to give birth, to a still born that refuses to make its way down the birth canal. And we are all stuck, in this frozen state of upheaval. I am truly at a loss for words, or actions. So many things, coming at us from all directions. I feel like the man in the video. Ranting inside, yet paralyzed by the same emotions.

I am asking source to please help. Nothing specific. But I am saying outnloud to source, Gaza, and everyone, everywhere, needs help. It is overwhelming.
It is the only thing I know to do at this point.


am not ignoring it. I just don't know what the hell to do!

I want to do more. What to do?

Sidney your post echoes what I’ve been going through. The same with Centauri.

Every time, I ask, “How? or what?” I keep coming back to “Be the power, the Love, I’m discovering and acknowledge within”. It spreads.

I’ve been unsuccessful with sharing information. Though because of Avalon, I’ve learned how to share differently when others play the devil’s advocate. I understand they’re curious, but not quite enough to find out more on their own. In fairness, I recall early on how it was a natural process where curiosity trumped denial and fear.

It was a good 3-4 years, in the early 90’s, where I had no time to watch TV because of a distant relationship, work, and martial arts training. I returned from a summer in Europe and turned on the local news. It had changed to an escalation of violence, brutality for the smallest disagreements, dark, and gore. I thought it was for ratings. But now I understand differently. It’s one example of how over these 25+ years we’ve been programmed. An entire generation(s) knows no different than life of cruelty, blood shed and war.

It angers and saddens me because I know it’s been longer than 25+ year. We’re busy with personal milestones, challenges, choices and changes. Many of which have been to counter this overlay and escalation of an unnatural society.

What keeps me going is the knowledge that this fabricated picture has the potential to turn in nano-seconds. Once enough reach out and say ‘no more’, and make it loud enough for their neighbors to be shaken out of their hypnotic programs, we’ll be on our way to rebuild.

It’s the people like those of Avalon that have the kind of light to jumpstart others recall of why they are here. The rebuilding phase will quicken because manifestation of thoughts, ideas, and material will be of a different vibration. One that equals our natural birthright.

RunningDeer <3

You have incredible insight Paula, and you are right that it is important to focus on staying aligned so to speak, as to not get to far off track, and fall into the pity pit.
Just one of those days I guess. After having such an enlightening Avalon grid experience, then turn and feel like the sky is falling. but sometimes, praying, is the only thing to do, and that is better than nothing. Gaia speaks to me, so I am hoping she feels the energies of our prayers.

[Milneman]

I question the humanness of the speaking thing.

Question the rationality of the watching thing, far more important.

And drink your water. ;)

[ktlight]

Gaza: one child killed every hour


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9IGrki8YA

"Published on Jul 23, 2014
The artist taxi driver"

This is a devastating story about a 2.5 year old girl who was hit by an F16 Israeli weapon

[Lifebringer]

As soon as the women pleaded with the world, "We have no place to go. All our homes are gone, there is only this hospital. Are we to stay at this hospital? This is all that is left that is safe for our families?"

Then they bomb the hospital of grieving mothers, wounded children and the only doctors available in the onslaught.
My God, we must apprehend these leaders, who don't have the sense of peace in their blood, heart, mind, or soul, if they have one.

[Violet]

Beith Hanoun looked like literal cornering today (see upper right):

http://sg.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-AV101A_GAZAm_G_20090105190438.gif
Image from 2009 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB123125224214857269?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB123125224214857269.html)

People who were hiding in a school (of which GPS coordinates were handed to Israeli government by UN) in awaital of a solution for safe shelter were simply bombed.

[Tyy1907]

It's so hard when you talk to people about this Gaza affair. You get the "what can we do" vibe from them, as if they're utterly powerless to do a thing about it. Denial can be ugly.

[MorningFox]

It's so hard when you talk to people about this Gaza affair. You get the "what can we do" vibe from them, as if they're utterly powerless to do a thing about it. Denial can be ugly.

What do you propose... ?

[bogeyman]

Peoples lives are being used as a political bargaining chip, cynical yes, but no doubt true.

[ulli]

It's so hard when you talk to people about this Gaza affair. You get the "what can we do" vibe from them, as if they're utterly powerless to do a thing about it. Denial can be ugly.

What do you propose... ?


This just came in via email from a friend of mine.
Sounds like a good plan to me...do what Kennedy did with the Cuban missile crisis...end the blockade.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/israeli-strike-un-school-gaza-kills-women-children?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
There could be peace between Israel and Gaza Palestinians if Israel ended their blockade of Gaza. A blockade is an act of war, recognized internationally.
The US in the Cuban Missile crisis, called their blockade a "quarantine" for legal and other reasons. Level heads finally prevailed and Kennedy ended the blockade ("quarantine") on November 20th, 1962, saving the world from a nuclear war.
From Wikipedia: "The confrontation ended on October 28, 1962,[7] when Kennedy and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with Khrushchev. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a US public declaration and agreement never to invade Cuba. Secretly, the US also agreed that it would dismantle all US-built Jupiter IRBMs, armed with nuclear warheads, which were deployed in Turkey and Italy against the Soviet Union."
I know Israel doesn't normally respect the UN (they just shelled one of their schools), but maybe Israel should use the UN. Kennedy did.
Warm peaceful wishes,
Samuel

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[ktlight]

The fighting will end in 2015.

Hopefully the fighting will end sooner, but why do you say this?

[MorningFox]

Another fool stating absolutes as if they have any idea at all what they're talking about, or at least not providing any kind of supporting information.

Sorry but we really can do without them.

[Christine]

Linked from this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73249-Israel-Deliberately-Targeting-Children-Whole-Families-Too-Many-Dead-Too-Quickly-to-Count&p=857527&viewfull=1#post857527).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDRkYotMnQo

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d37yfVLrHbE

"Published on Jul 21, 2014
Massacres where entire families are being killed are being carried out daily by Israeli forces on the people of Gaza."

AND this man tells us exactly how it is.

link: http://stopwar.org.uk/news/how-israel-is-being-defeated-in-gaza-just-as-it-was-in-lebanon

[Snoweagle]

Quote by Ali Abunimah "ISRAEL - World Champions in slaughter of civilians"
. . . unable to contest that point, undisputed.

Aren't Israeli leaders calling to receive the Nobel Peace prize for their actions Upon the Gaza Population?

Professor Finkelstein called Israel a "Lunatic State". It is really hard to contest that comment either.

It is the complete lack of humanitarian considerations that really sets Israel apart from the rest of humanity.

[Energy]

Blood sucking parasites & vampires ?? :shocked:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iyj6UPCChA


or just... Aliens :alien:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrDPrG5lI2I

---------------

Have you seen "They Live (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/)" movie ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLtKrTQwEAE


Aliens, Aliens everywhere :eek:
Who Controls America? ►►► http://thezog.wordpress.com (use the links on the right side)

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0crJ9KqLRc

"Published on Jul 26, 2014
In this video Luke Rudkowski talks to British MP Jeremy Corbyn about the current situation in Gaza and how to deal with Israel."

Maldives has also stopped trading.

[Cidersomerset]

The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News


ACgwr2Nj_GQ

Published on 26 Jul 2014


Jon Snow recounts the scene in Gaza's al-Shifa hospital, where
doctors struggle to treat adults and children wounded by Israeli attacks.

[Cidersomerset]

The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News


ACgwr2Nj_GQ

Published on 26 Jul 2014


Jon Snow recounts the scene in Gaza's al-Shifa hospital, where
doctors struggle to treat adults and children wounded by Israeli attacks.

[Hervé]

Israeli Police Admit Hamas did not kidnap Israeli teens (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Jul-26/265229-hamas-not-complicit-in-teens-kidnap-israeli-police.ashx#axzz38ZjHjZcE)

The Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Jul-26/265229-hamas-not-complicit-in-teens-kidnap-israeli-police.ashx#axzz38ZjHjZcE)
Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:02 CDT



http://www.sott.net/image/s9/196726/medium/pale_kidnapping.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/s9/196726/full/pale_kidnapping.jpg)
An Israeli soldier detains a Palestinian during an operation to locate three Israeli teens near the West Bank City of Hebron June 21, 2014



BEIRUT: The Israeli Police Foreign Press Spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld, appears to have falsified the Israeli government's claim that Hamas was responsible for the killing of three Israeli settler teens in June, by saying responsibility lies with a lone cell that operated without the complicity of Hamas' leadership.

The kidnapping and subsequent killing of three Israeli settler teens last month is considered to be a flashpoint for the escalated violence in Gaza -- that as of day 19 of the conflict has left 926 Palestinians, mostly civilians, dead.

At the time Israeli authorities placed the blame squarely on Hamas, with Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu saying "They were kidnapped and murdered in cold blood by animals in human form. Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay."

Friday however, there appeared to be break in the official line when BBC journalist Jon Donnison tweeted a series of statements he attributed to the Israeli Police Foreign Press Spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld.

"Israeli police Mickey Rosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def[initely] lone cell, Hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2."

"Seems to contradict the line from Netanyahu government. 2/2"

The journalist then goes on to tweet a further statement from Rosenfeld which, given that Israeli authorities used Hamas' culpability as a pretext for its crackdown of the West Bank that saw hundreds of Palestinians arrested and several killed, could cast serious doubts on the Israeli government's justifications.

"Israeli police spokes Mickey Rosenfeld also said if kidnapping had been ordered by Hamas leadership, they'd have known about it in advance."


SOTT Comment: (http://www.sott.net/article/282620-Israeli-Police-Admit-Hamas-did-not-kidnap-Israeli-teens) There ya have it folks. The entire rationale for Israel's slaughter of 900 Palestinian civilian is entirely baseless.


... animals in human form.

Takes one to accuse others of same... especially if they were zombied IDFs.

[sigma6]

I wonder what he thinks of the British Ambassador in Australia who kicked off the whole anti-Russia propaganda campaign on MH17 in Australia?....

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCSCBwtK6ng

"Published on Jul 27, 2014
The artist taxi driver

Without death, the global economy would collapse! GOOD!, chunkymark says."

[Maia Gabrial]

Looks like I'm in good company around the globe. We're all angry about what's going on in Palestine. Being angry is NOT HATE as some people here on Avalon think. Pointing the finger at and naming the guilty is not hate. Demanding justice is not hate. Just look at all the people who are protesting these atrocities. I'd say this was well into the millions in the majority of the countries!

http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/in-photos-worldwide-protest-against-israeli-attack-on-gaza-updated/

When the US threatened the UN's decision to investigate these atrocities, they showed whose welfare they REALLY represented. I'm sickened by the US representative, Buehner for what he said. Even if they had voted against an investigation, the people of the world took to the streets in mass protests. Let this scare the crap out of the ruling psychopaths. They ALL better listen now....

[linksplatinum]

Agreed

The tide is rolling in my friend

[jagman]

Maia Gabrial,
There are atleast 2 sides to every story Maia. I greatly sympathize with the people of Gaza!
Unfortunately their leadership is (Hamas) Which i and many others feel
is a terrorist organization that purposely uses human shields (Little Kids) for warfare.
They have fired thousands of rockets at Israel in the past 2 weeks and if it wasn't for the
Iron Dome missile defense? The casualties would be numberous for Israel!
Hamas has broken every single ceasefire that has been implemented! Hamas own Charter
calls for the destruction of Israel! just saying

[ghostrider]

your neighbor fires rockets into your city and you roll into his with tanks and blow up everything ??? and both sides think they are holy people following a holy teaching ... there is nothing holy about killing those that disagree with your religion ... What happened to Love , peace , kindness, forgiveness , longsuffering , meekness , temperance ??? you know the fruits of the spirit that both sides say is the driving force for their agenda ??? Ye shall know them by their fruits ... eyes to see but , they don't see ... ears to hear but , they don't hear ... There is more love and peace HERE at Avalon than there is in the so-called Holy Land ...

[sigma6]

Maia Gabrial,
There are atleast 2 sides to every story Maia. I greatly sympathize with the people of Gaza!
Unfortunately their leadership is (Hamas) Which i and many others feel
is a terrorist organization that purposely uses human shields (Little Kids) for warfare.
They have fired thousands of rockets at Israel in the past 2 weeks and if it wasn't for the
Iron Dome missile defense? The casualties would be numberous for Israel!
Hamas has broken every single ceasefire that has been implemented! Hamas own Charter
calls for the destruction of Israel! just saying

It does seem Hamas is setting them up, you want to lead them in a war, then lead,
It's not like they are trying to hide their footprint, or the world doesn't know.
So bring in the hardware and show some scalps for it.
Otherwise what the hell is going on?

[linksplatinum]

This is a rather large post so I added the link here instead...

This is truly sad... Even with cease fire talks on the table, the senseless massacres continue against Palestinian civilians, with the same cabalist rhetoric lies being told to place blame on Hamas for the deaths of the innocents.

This post is not to be shown in bad taste, but as a must to stop the war crimes to get this out in the open for all to see.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/07/29/ten-people-mainly-children-killed-in-attack-on-gaza-park-but-israel-deny-any-involvement-saying-the-attack-was-actually-a-hamas-rocket-misfire/


Israel has denied responsibility for an attack on a playground in Gaza earlier today which killed eight Palestinian children.

Children were playing on swings in the Shati refugee camp on the edge of Gaza City when a huge explosion obliterated the site.

Palestinian medics said two adults were also killed in the blast, which witnesses said was an Israeli air strike. Israel denied responsibility, claiming it was a misfire of a rocket launched by Hamas militants.

[cursichella1]

And Israeli tanks just hit another U.N. school. Absolutely nuts. I don't think people get the enormity and brutality of this slaughter and/or are just too removed to be moved by images like these. Insane that no one has the balls to step in to stop this. I take that back, many have the balls but lack an army. :(

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/26/_12_hour_ceasefire_in_gaza_on_saturday/452710456-palestinian-woman-walks-across-the-rubble-of-destroyed.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba0mRiSAHs

"Published on Jul 29, 2014
The artist taxi driver"

Chunkymark says: Gaza is about extermination. The Israelis are preaching hate to their own people. Their souls are so filled up with revulsion....

[dianna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba0mRiSAHs

"Published on Jul 29, 2014
The artist taxi driver"

Chunkymark says: Gaza is about extermination. The Israelis are preaching hate to their own people. Their souls are so filled up with revulsion....

From David Icke's website … difficult to watch (I think the artist taxi driver has seen this as well …)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k


Israelis Chant: ‘There’s No School Tomorrow, There’s No Children Left in Gaza! Oleh!’
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/israelis-chant-theres-no-school-tomorrow-theres-no-children-left-in-gaza-oleh/

[sigma6]

This is what a world run by corporations, commerce and pure contract looks like. Because from that perspective, this is a perfectly "legally" acceptable war. This war IS NOT about MORALITY, not about respect for LIFE (ALL LIFE) It's about commerce and contract. This is the world the UN wants to bring to the world. If you study it's precepts, they are all based upon and make reference to the "PERSON"...

Aaron Russo Predicts 911,Martial Law, RFID, invasion of Iraq & others through Rockefeller
TGZMAY1cAAo
And if you don't know EXACTLY what a "PERSON" is, then once more you are being duped. All the rights, privileges, benefits, everything applies to the PERSON. Which turns out to be a form of a corporation, that you are the recipient holder of. Yet no one has the knowledge or was given the proper education of how to operate it.

Bottom line: that recipient holder will be under the control of the Governing body that created it and DOES KNOW how to effectively operate it. This is one of the pillars of their strategy of control. The cause of this moral crisis we are suffering right NOW.

Legal contracts over overriding fundamental spiritual values. Legal interpretation is play on words by hidden presumption of agreement. This is a test, to see how far they can take it, how far they can manipulate the public. This will be the model for the UN government. Pure legal interpretation.

How do you like it so far? No one can argue that there isn't a legal interpretation of "right" vs our God given inalienable right, who knows the difference today?

Test run of their leveraged control and manipulation of the media and the legal institutions. Mafia Trustees.

Control of distribution of information in the media, control of distribution of legal power via a government full of lawyers for hire. With the ultimate goal of control of distribution of our food, water, and money.

[Maia Gabrial]

Maia Gabrial,
There are atleast 2 sides to every story Maia. I greatly sympathize with the people of Gaza!
Unfortunately their leadership is (Hamas) Which i and many others feel
is a terrorist organization that purposely uses human shields (Little Kids) for warfare.
They have fired thousands of rockets at Israel in the past 2 weeks and if it wasn't for the
Iron Dome missile defense? The casualties would be numberous for Israel!
Hamas has broken every single ceasefire that has been implemented! Hamas own Charter
calls for the destruction of Israel! just saying

To me, I know that Bentyahoo and the zionist govt are the real terrorists in this. Can't overlook what they do to the Palestinian people with all their advanced technologies; while the Palestinians have nothing that comes close. This latest attack is so far over the top it's beyond cruel. I can't wait to hear how that sack of sh!t, Bentyahoo whines his way out of this.

Are you so sure that Hamas broke every cease fire? Did this information happen to come from the zionist controlled Lamestream medias? Can you REALLY trust what they say? It's already been proven that they lie through their teeth, inventing news, slanting the news, misrepresenting disaster drills as real attacks, ignore the important news that heavily affect us all.....

Sorry, I'm not buying any of it. The truth will come from the Palestinians themselves....

[Maia Gabrial]

IMO anyone who thinks Israel is in the right with all the murder on the Palenstinians are clueless and thoroughly mind controlled.

[giovonni]

July 30, 2014


From New South Wales, Australia Max Igan runs the website thecrowhouse.com, which covers a vast array of different topics spanning from government corruption to the mysteries of our ancient past. In this program we discuss Zionist terrorism in Gaza and the current bombing campaign and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. We’ll talk about the lies pushed by the Zionist controlled mainstream on this issue and the double standards of Israel’s policies. Max also talks about his visit to the Gaza Strip and the many kind Palestinians he met there. He tells us how he entered in to the checkpoint ridden area using one of the many tunnels from the Egyptian side, where he also met border officers from Hamas. Later, we discuss the monumental lies and disinformation surrounding World War II, especially what happened to Germany. In the second hour, we’ll talk about how to weaken the influence of the Zionist controlled media. Max highlights previous atrocities in Palestine, such as the death of Rachel Corrie and the people murdered on the Gaza flotilla. The hour ends on the huge problem with Christian Zionists, who support Israel unequivocally on the basis of religious programing.

Full Interview


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nKd-8Nlfo&feature=em-uploademail

[spiritguide]

Coming to a local near you? Be prepared for your own sake...

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Sunday, August 3rd, 2014 | Posted by Gordon Duff

The Politics of Water: “Gaza” Toledo

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Water Lines…something America should never see

Governor Kasich and Web of Lies
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By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
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A million people are without water another day, many without food, businesses closed, an entire section of the United States shut down largely because of illegal pollution and a governor owned by organized crime who is punishing his political enemies. People are dying.

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The entire Detroit metropolitan area, home to nearly 7 million people, has been “picked clean” of bottled water though that area is two hours from the shortage. Literally tens of thousands of stores have been practically looted of water. People are washing dishes with Perrier and Avian.

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Governor Kasich’s emergency notification system, the ten million dollar sign

John Kasich was elected governor of Ohio the usual way with a twist. Yes, the voting machines were rigged, counts were fixed as in the 2000 and 2004 elections. However, Kasich got in because gambling boss, Sheldon Adelson simply bought Ohio for him and the people of Ohio have been paying for it ever since.

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Meijers in Ypsilanti, Michigan..a story spreading across the Midwest

This time it is water. Failure to manage fertilizer and pesticide runoff has turned Lake Erie into a toxic swamp. Water in Northwest Ohio and Southeast Michigan is toxic, cut off for 2 days and no end in sight. Kasich has promised to bring in the National Guard to distribute food and water.

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Stop and Go in Toledo gauging!

Link to rest of article....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/03/the-politics-of-water-gaza-toledo/

Coming to your local city / state?

Peace!

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0PF8iNPI7k

At the moment it is peaceful, there is a ceasefire since this morning.
There are 600,000 homeless people because of the heavy bombardment.

Why has Israel taken the tanks out of Gaza. They suffered much bigger losses than they stated.

[avid]

Each side will exaggerate to their advantage - however, the horrific images we have witnessed is definitely an attempt at genocide. Their bad kharma will follow them forever.

[Lifebringer]

Each side will exaggerate to their advantage - however, the horrific images we have witnessed is definitely an attempt at genocide. Their bad kharma will follow them forever.

You'd think they'd have learned their lesson the first time w/God, but nope.