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Cidersomerset
11th August 2011, 18:07
I woke up this morning to ITV Daybreak as usual before going to work to see what the weather will be like, and they announced the next batch of UFO files had been released today only a few min section after the usual little green men comments..
on comes MR.Ministry Pope as vague as ever...BLa bla bla thank you for the cheque
goodbye....I can't find a link to it, just as well as it will only p--- you off.
Anyway like everything else it was lost in the aftermath of the policing cock up..

The daily mail on line are really taking it seriously (not) Mork & Mindy headline..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2024730/Mork-Mindy-visit-East-Dulwich-Claims-recorded-MoDs-UFO-desk.html

MSN are slightly better...Also Starring the only UFO spokeman in the world onTV it seems.....That in itselfe is very suspicious to me....Anyone else ?????
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/uk-government-releases-new-ufo-files

Another one for Mork & Mindy...
http://sharerally.com/?p=3299

NA Nu Na Nu === Steve TO Orson ... Cheers....

winston smith1971
11th August 2011, 19:02
NA Nu Na Nu === Robbie TO Steve,

Had to laugh at "NA Nu Na Nu === Steve TO Orson ... Cheers...."

Its such a shame that the mainstream wheel out Pope every time.There default interview setting seems to be ridicule for anything remotely connected to the UFO subject. But i'm preaching to the choir here... Cheers Rob

Cidersomerset
11th August 2011, 19:24
I know Robbie its more for guests and casual observers most on here would know Pope is like having the old soviet Tass news when everything was government filtered..
What winds me up is we all know Pope knows a lot more than he is letting on , LOL thats what irritates me ...NA NU NA NU ...Steve out...

boja
11th August 2011, 19:27
I agree with you guys,

but then looking on the bright side,

it could have been worse,

they might have wheeled out "Dr David Clarke"

Ria
11th August 2011, 19:33
Christmas come early
My Mother reads that papper
Thank you God

Cidersomerset
11th August 2011, 19:51
Your right boja I saw Dr Clark on a old BBC news clip earlier when I was looking for clips for this thread and he was as bad as Pope.Ok if they are scared of ridicule don't go on TV.Tim Good was on the radio the other morning and bless him he was not afried to say what he believes, even if the reporter sneered at him.....Steve

Maia Gabrial
11th August 2011, 21:15
I think more and more people are willing to step forward in spite of the sneers. It shows how the times have changed. Soon enough, people will see it for themselves.

Cidersomerset
11th August 2011, 21:51
Lets hope so Maia ........My main gripe with Nick Pope is that he has joined the UFO circuit a few years ago , granted most probably thru invitation .Event organisers keen for fresh blood and with
his credentials were glad to have him on boared and his speciality is the Rendlesham forest incident which he presents clinicaly and should put him firmly in our camp so to speak.....
He is a freelance journalist and still either works for the MOD or has a pension , and he is still bound by his secrecy oaths . What he presents in his presentation is already public knowledge
realesed by col Holt and others who were at the base when the UFO landed...
He has by luck or design, (this where the possible disinfo accusations come in) landed an unusual dual role of apparently disclosing to us what he knows on the subject, and not telling us
what he knows about real classified cases for fear of breaking his secrecy oath. Which to be fair he freely admits so he is not a'Whistleblower' which can confuse some.

He has found himselfe to be called on by media all over the world to comment on virtually any UFO siting on TV/media...So he is on to a good little earner and he is seen by the mainstream
as the voice of ufology.Which would be great if he actually said anything positve and not be so vague......This then leads into the question is it just luck he is the main man they all ring
or is it part of a intellegnce ploy to hog the airways with his negative vibes..........Or is it just me.....Steve

Cidersomerset
12th August 2011, 14:13
Hi all this is a recent 5min Nick Pope interview on disclosure TV .....This is a classic example he does not really say anything other that space is so big there may be alian life & they may have visited.
But words come out of his mouth, but there is no substance...This would not matter except he is the so called 'expert' every media outlet contact , does it not bug anyone ?

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/74313/New_interview_with_Nick_Pope_about_UFOs_2011/


The positive I suppose is at least the media except there is a UFO desk at the MOD even if it is a sham....Steve

Maia Gabrial
12th August 2011, 19:19
Hey Steve,
And when Disclosure happens, he's going to jump up and tell everyone that he'd been saying it all along.... We all can see right through him....

Cidersomerset
12th August 2011, 19:44
Exactly Mai...I was getting worried that he was making me paranoid !!!! LOL...Heres To real Disclosure, Because We Can Handle The Truth !! .....Cheers Steve


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Why does'nt the media around the world ring one of these proper reasercher/whistleblowers/journalists when commenting on news stories instead of the establishment ministry man ?
coincidence or mind control ?????????? Suger I forgot Nick Pope is in the vid, I'm watching it again but he is still vague in it and it confirms my point ,he is Bleedin everywhere for no reason imho.. LOL but you get my point...Steve..

boja
12th August 2011, 19:51
I believe that almost all of us here at Avalon (certainly in the UK) realise that these "UK UFO file batch releases" are quite simply a joke.
- Just a few carrots to feed the donkeys.

While not wishing to belittle him, Nick Pope, as you point out, never actually says anything of any consequence.

However, since we are on the subject of BS (oops ! who said that ?).
Would it not be a worth while cause in order to benefit anybody & everybody researching UFOs, to compile a list of DEBUNKERS ?
Whose teachings should be steered well clear of.
"Supposed experts" who have written books or articles and whose "theories" are not to be trusted.
People who are at best, unintentionally misleading, or worse, INTENTIONALLY misleading.

Anyone with an initial certain amount of scepticism towards the subject could be forgiven.
However, people who plainly go to great lengths to debunk it, are an ABSOLUTE MENACE.

In the words of Stanton Friedman "THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING".

Kind regards, Boja.

Ecnal61
13th August 2011, 16:56
dear cidersomerset and winton smith1971 i think your being a bit harsh to poor old nick..oops sorry nicholas pope,as the interviewer said in the link he has now got 4 books after his name,although as he never says anything new i should imagine most of the pages are empty and so they double up as diaries [useful eh ] and she also described him as the new fox mulder... ladies restrain yourselves and form an orderly queue,and now he`s gonna make programs and films about ufo`s !! i think its safe to say that nicky boy is riding the gravy train, choo choo all aboard the pope express..first stop his bank account. its an affront to have his name mentioned in the same breath as tim goode bill ryan et al.

Cidersomerset
13th August 2011, 17:26
Thanks Ecnal I could not agree more obviously he was sent in by 'SPECTRE' to infiltrate the 00's and try to disrupt our mission for truth & disclosure......Cheers Steve