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Jeremy
12th August 2011, 01:52
EARTHLINGS is the single most powerful and informative documentary about society's tragic and unforgivable use of nonhuman animals, narrated by Joaquin Phoenix with soundtrack by Moby. Directed by Shaun Monson, this multi-award winning film by Nation Earth is a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

PLEASE: don't run from reality, watch the film and share your thoughts with other viewers in the comments section. Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4DJh-L7Ys&playnext=1&list=PL9FD18926170ED901

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 01:56
I find these quotes are relative to this domain.

Count Leo Tolstoy:

“As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields.”

Socrates:

“The highest realms of thought are impossible to reach without first attaining an understanding of compassion.”

Leonardo da Vinci:

“The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.”

Mahatma Gandhi:

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

"Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it polite?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a point when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular, but one must take it because his conscience tells him that it is right." ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Animals have done us no harm and they have no power of resistance. Cruelty to animals is as if man did not love God. There is something so very dreadful, so Satanic, in tormenting those who have never harmed us, who cannot defend themselves, who are utterly in our power."
Cardinal John Henry Newman (1801-1890)

"A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. "
Leo Tolstoy

"Many people feel drawn to advocate for animals because even though they can feel pain and suffer just as we do, they do not have a way to advocate for their own welfare. In fact, animals are viewed by many as nothing more than property to be treated however the owner wishes. This view has created an inhumane situation for billions of animals that share our world."
Robert Alan

"Life is life--whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage. "
Sri Aurobindo

"Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is--whether its victim is human or animal--we cannot expect things to be much better in this world..." 
Rachel Carson

"We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity. "
Rachel Carson

"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man."
Charles Darwin

And a favourite…

"I ask people why they have deer heads on their walls. They always say because it's such a beautiful animal. There you go. I think my mother is attractive, but I have photographs of her."
Ellen DeGeneres

"Since compassion for animals is so intimately associated with goodness of character, it may be confidently asserted that whoever is cruel to animals cannot be a good man."

"The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
Arthur Schopenhauer.

“Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.”
Leonardo Da Vinci.

“Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.”
Albert Einstein.

“It ill becomes us to invoke in our daily prayers the blessings of God, the Compassionate, if we in turn will not practice elementary compassion towards our fellow creatures.”
Gandhi.

“To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana.”
Buddha.

“He is closest to God who harms no living creature.”
Bhagavad Gita.

"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
Pythagoras, mathematician

"I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men."
Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist

"While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth?"
George Bernard Shaw, playwright, Nobel Prize 1925

"In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought."
Isaac Bashevis Singer, author, Nobel Prize 1978

"You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist

"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."
Leo Tolstoy, author

"We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity."
Rachel Carson, marine biologist

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
Thomas Edison, inventor

"Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace."
Albert Schweitzer, missionary and statesman, Nobel 1952

"If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who deal likewise with their fellow men. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission - to be of service to them wherever they require it."
Francis of Assisi, saint

"I’ve become very much sensitive to the fact that eating animal based foods has a lot of consequences. And those consequences for the most part… [have] to do with the way some people mistreat other people, and the way they mistreat animals, the way they mistreat the environment. I call that… ‘global violence’. Why do we do that? Why do we do the things that are often not in our best interest? And violate the rights of others… whether it’s other sentient beings, or whether it’s abuse of the environment. It’s all the same. So I just see if we chose the right kind of foods we would be decreased in violence, end of story, full stop. It’s just the way it is."

Would you eat your pet?

"Can you really ask what reason Pythagoras had for abstaining from flesh? For my part I rather wonder both by what accident and in what state of soul or mind the first man did so, touched his mouth to gore and brought his lips to the flesh of a dead creature, he who set forth tables of dead, stale bodies and ventured to call food and nourishment the parts that had a little before bellowed and cried, moved and lived. How could his eyes endure the slaughter when throats were slit and hides flayed and limbs torn from limb? How could his nose endure the stench? How was it that the pollution did not turn away his taste, which made contact with the sores of others and sucked juices and serums from mortal wounds?" Plutarch (essayist and biographer)

All beings tremble before violence. All fear death, all love life. See yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do? ---- Cautama Budda

"Wherefore I say to all those who desire to be disciples, keep your hands from bloodshed and let no flesh meat enter your mouths, for the Lord is just and bountiful; who ordains that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone."

Jesus, Gospel of the Nazirenes, Chapter 38, Verse 4

"Who ever heard of angry revolutionists all harmonizing 'We Shall Overcome Some Day' while tripping and swaying along arm-in-arm with the very people they were supposed to be angrily revolting against? Who ever heard of angry revolutionists swinging their bare feet together with their oppressor in lily pad park pools, with gospels and guitars and 'I Have a Dream' speeches?"

Malcolm X (1925-1965)

"I am aware that many object to the severity of my language; but is there not cause for severity? I will be as harsh as the truth and as uncompromising as justice. On this subject, I do not wish to think or speak or write with moderation. ...I am in earnest. I will not equivocate. I will not excuse. I will not retreat a single inch. And I will be heard."
William Lloyd Garrison, slave abolitionist and orator (1805-1879)

“The search for truth is more precious than its possession.”

Albert Einstein

Each person comes into this world with a specific destiny--he has something to fulfill, some message has to be delivered, some work has to be completed. You are not here accidentally--you are here meaningfully. There is a purpose behind you. The whole intends to do something through you.
-Osho

Could you look an animal in the eyes and say to it, 'My appetite is more important than your suffering'?
- Moby from the album inlay of 'The End of Everything'.

God didn't give us a stove, he gave us trees with fruit and vegetables to eat.

"I do not regard flesh food as necessary for us. I hold flesh food to be unsuited to our species. To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being. I should be unwilling to take the life of a lamb for the sake of the human body. The more helpless the creature, the more it is entitled to protection from humans from the cruelty of humans."
-Mohandas K. Gandhi

They're not food sources, they're sentient beings.

Doug Grahams reply to someone who says "How's your rabbit food?"
"Fine thanks. How's your vulture food?

HUMANS: YOU CUT DOWN MY FORESTS, MOW DOWN, RAPE, AND EXPLOIT MY ANIMALS, POUR YOUR BLACK DEATH INTO MY BLUE LIFE! DON'T FORGET I HAVE THE POWER TO DESTROY YOU ALL! DON'T F*** WITH ME....DEFENDERS OF ANIMALS AND THE EARTH CONSIDER YOURSELVES EXEMPT! ~ MOTHER EARTH

" It is more important to prevent animal suffering, rather than sit to contemplate the evils of the universe praying in the company of priests." ~ Buddha

"Pacifism is ultimately nothing more than a willingness to die, and to let others die, at the pleasure of the world's thugs. A single sociopath, armed with nothing more than a knife, could exterminate a city full of pacifists. ...Here we come upon a terrible facet of ethically asymmetric warfare: when your enemy has no scruples, your own scruples become another weapon in his hand."

Sam Harris, The End of Faith

"There never yet has been a dog
Who learned to double cross,
Nor catered to you when you won
Then dropped you when you lost."

Mary Hale

“They (farm animals) are far more aware and intelligent than we ever imagined and, despite having been bred as domestic slaves, they are individual beings in their own right. As such, they deserve our respect. And our help." - Jane Goodall

"Other animals, which, on account of their interests having been neglected by
the insensibility of the ancient jurists, stand degraded into the class
of things. The day has been, I grieve it to say in many places it
is not yet past, in which the greater part of the species, under the
denomination of slaves, have been treated upon the same footing as
animals are still. The day may come, when the rest of the animal
creation may acquire those rights which never could have been withholden
from them but by the hand of tyranny. The French have already
discovered that the blackness of skin is no reason why a human being
should be abandoned without redress to the caprice of a tormentor. It
may come one day to be recognized, that the number of legs, the
villosity of the skin, or the termination of the os sacrum, are reasons
equally insufficient for abandoning a sensitive being to the same fate.
What else is it that should trace the insuperable line? Is it the
faculty of reason, or perhaps, the faculty for discourse?...the question
is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer? Why
should the law refuse its protection to any sensitive being?... The
time will come when humanity will extend its mantle over everything
which breathes..." -Jeremy Bentham (1748 - 1832)

"Animals and humans suffer and die alike. Violence causes the same pain, the same spilling of blood, the same stench of death, the same arrogant, cruel and brutal taking of life. We don't have to be a part of it." -Dick Gregory

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution.  Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."  ~Thomas A. Edison

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people" you'd better live real close to a real good hospital." ~Neal Barnard MD

"I would not want to promote research on animals. Fortunately, only my back is twisted, not my mind." -Linn Pulis, polio victim

"Hunting is not a sport; in a sport, the contestants must know they're in the game." -Paul Rodriguez, comedian

'Man is the only creature that consumes without producing.  He does not give milk, he does not lay eggs, he is too weak to pull the plough, he cannot run fast enough to catch rabbits.  Yet he is lord of all the animals.' -George Orwell, Animal Farm

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein

"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." -Albert Schweitzer, on meat-eating

Of all the creatures ever made, Man is the most detestable. He is the only creature that inflicts pain for sport, knowing it to be pain.
-Twain, Mark

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 02:15
Free yourself so that they may be free

The most powerful antidotes to cruelty, abuse, and indifference are not anger and sadness, but love, peace, joy, and openhearted creative enthusiasm for this precious gift of a human life.

Just as Thich Nhat Hanh has wisely said that without inner peace, we cannot contribute to the peace movement, so it is also that without inner freedom, we cannot contribute to the liberation of animals, which is the essential prerequisite to meaningful human freedom.


May all beings be free and at peace, Will


*The Wolrd Peace Diet* is a provocative book written by Dr. Will Tuttle. I recommend everyone to check it out. It can be downloaded through his website.

ABOUT

Dr. Will Tuttle is an award-winning speaker, educator, author, and musician. His music, writings, and presentations focus on creativity, intuition, and compassion.

On this website, you can find out more about Dr. Tuttle's book, The World Peace Diet, about his original piano music, about his seminars and retreats on developing intuition, compassion, and meditative equanimity, and about the individualized music and art portraits he does with his spouse Madeleine.

The World Peace Diet has been called one of the most important books of the 21st century: the foundation of a new society based on the truth of the interconnectedness of all life. Dr. Tuttle is currently giving a series of lecture presentations around North America on The World Peace Diet.

See the Tour Schedule for details.

Dr. Tuttle presents about 150 events yearly at conferences, retreats, and progressive churches and centers throughout North America. A former Zen monk with a Ph.D. in education from U.C., Berkeley, he has worked extensively in intuition development, spiritual healing, meditation, music, creativity, vegan living, and cultural evolution.

In churches, he typically presents the morning special music, meditation, and message and later gives an educational seminar on developing intuition, as well as a concert of original music, "Piano Passion." These are intended to generate energy for personal and planetary awakening.

Will's original piano music is widely acclaimed for its uniquely inspiring and healing qualities.

http://www.worldpeacediet.com/

Here's the book here, not sure if you can access it or how to download it yourself like I did. But we can try: http://worldpeacediet.org/images/WorldPeaceDiet09.pdf

RMorgan
12th August 2011, 02:17
You know, I´m a vegetarian for about 10 years. I´ve watched most animal rights documentaries out there, but this one is so strong, that I couldn´t pass its first 20 minutes or so...As soon as I started crying, I stopped the dvd...I just couldn´t stand watching it.

This is hard stuff, specially for meat eaters...This is shock therapy, for sure.

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 02:37
For the people who don't think they can survive solely off of plant foods. They should ask themselves this question: how do rhinos, hippos, giraffes, cows, horses, gorillas, elephants and so forth sustain such a large body? Their diet is completely plant-based. Maybe with the exception of 1 percent coming from bugs for gorillas, for instance. A common question that non-meat eaters get is- But where to you get your protein? All plant-foods contain adequate amounts of protein. There isn't even a medical term for protein deficiency. And they are super rich in minerals, vitamins along with macronutrients. For all those skeptics, who think you have to be anorexic to be a plant-eater. Here is a good website to check out: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

Diet is one thing. But it is interconnected with many other aspects of life, like; political, environmental, emotional, spiritual, social and so forth.

Fruit and nut trees, you don't have to kill them. When you harvest the fruits and nuts, they just keep regenerating afterwards. How sustainable and harmonizing with eco-systems is that? Considering the oxygen, food and beauty trees give us, we can't have too many trees on the planet. But for the big meat and dairy industry, trees are being cleared and land is being eroded. Much of the Amazon is being deforested for cattle ranching and soy/grain plantation to meet peoples taste buds and transient highs in the fast food industry and so on. Doesn't sound too wise to me.

Interesting resource: www.30bananasaday.com

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 02:49
Oh man, I agree Morgan.
Its very sad.

modwiz
12th August 2011, 04:13
You know, I´m a vegetarian for about 10 years. I´ve watched most animal rights documentaries out there, but this one is so strong, that I couldn´t pass its first 20 minutes or so...As soon as I started crying, I stopped the dvd...I just couldn´t stand watching it.

This is hard stuff, specially for meat eaters...This is shock therapy, for sure.

As a 21 years vegetarian I spare myself the horrors of these documentaries. I stopped being being a part of the unacceptable pain and cruelty for peace of mind and greater health resulted. It is painful enouigh to know it still continues and that so many people around me still contribute to this endless and needless suffering of animals and debasement of ourselves.

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 04:31
An excerpt from the book 'The World Peace Diet':

Science and Slavery

"Converting living systems into machines for capital accumulation wouldn't be possible without the instrumentality of a reductionist science that achieves two things for you.
"On the one hand it kills your ethics of compassion because reductionism transforms a living system into inert parts that are put together from the outside---and that reductionism then creates the ethical anesthesia that basically says: 'You don't have to worry about the ethics of your relationship because this is just a bundle of matter which is in your hands to play around with.' It's as if you're playing with plasticine.
"And it also gives you the actual manipulative power to get more milk out of a cow, to produce more lean meat in the cows, to stock cows in smaller spaces, to slaughter them more quickly.
"These are the systems by which capital uses the reductionism of science for the capital accumulation and appropriation of life from beings who have a right to their own life."
----Vandana Shiva, Ph.D.

Rooted in the fallacious Cartesian split between mind and matter, conventional reductionist science flatly denies the existence of any reality beyond what can be physically quantified. This materialist mythos ignores spirituality and the mysterious adventure of consciousness, and tends to reduce both animals and humans to mere survival machines propelled by eugenic and chemical forces. It intrinsically reinforces the delusion that beings struggle and compete in a universe that is devoid of any innate meaning or purpose. This has made reductionist science a potent tool of the wealthy elite and the military-industrial complex it controls.
In stripping away the inherent meaning and worth of animals and nature and reducing life to material processes, genetic programming, and operant conditioning, our own meaning, our worth, and our status are redefined in terms of how efficiently we serve the ends of the economic/political complex. Reductionist science cultivates the cold and calculating eye that validates reducing beings to numbers in the cost/benefit analyses carried out by industrial economies and military strategists. It has helped legitimize the herding culture's practice of commodifying animals and nature and, by extension, each other and ourselves.

Reductionist science serves the herding mentality faithfully. It has turned the pathological disconnectedness of masculine domination of nature, animals, and people into a reputable and prestigious art form.
Today we can actually go to Dachau and stand in the same concrete buildings where Nazi scientists preformed excruciating experiments on their fellow human creatures in the name of science. Just as ideas of supremacy justified the cruel Nazi experiments, they also justify the cruel experiments we perform by the untold thousands every day on defenceless animals. If we could gain admittance, we could go today to any university or to thousands of private, military, or governmental research operations and witness cruel atrocities rationalized by the same argument of supremacy. We could also go, for example, to the school of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia, and see how the U.S. military trains military personnel from countries in Central and South America in the latest high-tech methods of torture, surveillance, and repression that help them to effectively dominate their people to further the interests of transnational corporations and the ruling elite. Capital, cattle, riches, war, and exploitation of nature, animals, and people stand on the same foundation today as in the old herding cultures. They continue today in high-tech form aided by the reductive mythology of science.

There is perhaps nothing more terrifying than to be helpless and restrained, and to be looked at by a cold, disconnected eye that does not care about our experience of suffering……

http://worldpeacediet.org/images/WorldPeaceDiet09.pdf

etheric underground
12th August 2011, 05:05
I saw this a few years ago.... and made everyone I know watch it.
Not one person kept a dry eye.
I wish they would show this on Australian television.

Jeremy
12th August 2011, 05:11
An excerpt from the book 'Mad Cowboy':

Mad
Cowboy

Plain Truth from the Cattle Rancher Who Won't Eat Meat

Howard F. Lyman with Glen Merzer

I am a fourth-generation dairy farmer and cattle rancher. I grew up on a dairy farm in Montana, and I ran a feedlot operation there for twenty years. I know firsthand how cattle are raised and how meat is produced in this country.
Today I am president of Earth Save International, an organization promoting organic farming and the vegetarian diet.

Sure, I used to enjoy my steaks as much as the next guy.
But if you knew what I know about what goes into them and what they can do to you, you'd probably be a vegetarian like me. And, believe it or not, as a pure vegetarian now who consumes no animal products at all, I can tell you that these days I enjoy eating more than ever.

If you're a meat-eater in America, you have a right to know that you have something in common with most of the cows you've eaten. They've eaten meat, too.

When a cow is slaughtered, about half of it by weight is not eaten by humans; the intestines and their contents, the head, the hooves, and horns, as well as bones and blood. These are dumped into giant grinders at rendering plants as are the entire bodies of cows and other farm animals known to be diseased. Rendering is a $2.4- billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion pounds of dead animals. There is simply no such thin in America as an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the all-embracing arms of the renderer. Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm animals, is euthanized pets-the six or seven million dogs and cats that are killed in animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angelas alone, for example, sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is not collected daily, and in the summer, the better roadkill collection crews generally smell it before they can see it.) When this gruesome mix is ground and steam-cooked, the lighter, fatty material floating to the top gets refined for use in such products as cosmetics, lubricants, soaps, candles, and waxes. The heavier protein material is dried and pulverized into a brown powder-about a quarter of which consists of faecal matter. The powder is used as an additive to almost all pet food as well as to the livestock feed. Farmers call it"protein concentrates." In 1995, five million tons of processed slaughter-house leftovers were sold for animal feed in the United States. I used to feed tons of the stuff to my own livestock. It never concerned me that I was feeding cattle to cattle.

In August 1997, in response to growing concern about the spread of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (or Mad Cow disease), the FDA issued a new regulation that bans the feeding of remnant proten (protein from cud-chewing animals) to ruminants; therefore, to the extent that the regulation is actually enforced, cattle are no longer quite cannibals that we had made them into. They are no longer eating solid parts of other cattle, or sheep, or goats. They still munch, however, on ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs, chickens, and turkeys, as well as blood and faecal material of their own species and that of chickens. About 75 percent of the ninety millions beef cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with rendered animal parts. Thus use of animal excrement in feed is common as well, as live stock operators have found it to be an efficient way of disposing of a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes generated annually by their industry.

http://www.madcowboy.com/

modwiz
12th August 2011, 05:36
An excerpt from the book 'Mad Cowboy':

Mad
Cowboy

Plain Truth from the Cattle Rancher Who Won't Eat Meat

Howard F. Lyman with Glen Merzer

I am a fourth-generation dairy farmer and cattle rancher. I grew up on a dairy farm in Montana, and I ran a feedlot operation there for twenty years. I know firsthand how cattle are raised and how meat is produced in this country.
Today I am president of Earth Save International, an organization promoting organic farming and the vegetarian diet.

Sure, I used to enjoy my steaks as much as the next guy.
But if you knew what I know about what goes into them and what they can do to you, you'd probably be a vegetarian like me. And, believe it or not, as a pure vegetarian now who consumes no animal products at all, I can tell you that these days I enjoy eating more than ever.

If you're a meat-eater in America, you have a right to know that you have something in common with most of the cows you've eaten. They've eaten meat, too.

When a cow is slaughtered, about half of it by weight is not eaten by humans; the intestines and their contents, the head, the hooves, and horns, as well as bones and blood. These are dumped into giant grinders at rendering plants as are the entire bodies of cows and other farm animals known to be diseased. Rendering is a $2.4- billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion pounds of dead animals. There is simply no such thin in America as an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the all-embracing arms of the renderer. Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm animals, is euthanized pets-the six or seven million dogs and cats that are killed in animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angelas alone, for example, sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is not collected daily, and in the summer, the better roadkill collection crews generally smell it before they can see it.) When this gruesome mix is ground and steam-cooked, the lighter, fatty material floating to the top gets refined for use in such products as cosmetics, lubricants, soaps, candles, and waxes. The heavier protein material is dried and pulverized into a brown powder-about a quarter of which consists of faecal matter. The powder is used as an additive to almost all pet food as well as to the livestock feed. Farmers call it"protein concentrates." In 1995, five million tons of processed slaughter-house leftovers were sold for animal feed in the United States. I used to feed tons of the stuff to my own livestock. It never concerned me that I was feeding cattle to cattle.

In August 1997, in response to growing concern about the spread of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (or Mad Cow disease), the FDA issued a new regulation that bans the feeding of remnant proten (protein from cud-chewing animals) to ruminants; therefore, to the extent that the regulation is actually enforced, cattle are no longer quite cannibals that we had made them into. They are no longer eating solid parts of other cattle, or sheep, or goats. They still munch, however, on ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs, chickens, and turkeys, as well as blood and faecal material of their own species and that of chickens. About 75 percent of the ninety millions beef cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with rendered animal parts. Thus use of animal excrement in feed is common as well, as live stock operators have found it to be an efficient way of disposing of a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes generated annually by their industry.

http://www.madcowboy.com/

Step right up! Mmm tasty burgers, cruelty and greed all in a quarter pounder. Pickles with that?

Corncrake
12th August 2011, 07:20
Thank you specifically for posts No 2 and 10 - wonderful and for the most part inspirational quotes and interesting although sickening information. As for the video I started watching it some time ago but couldn't continue just too upsetting. I am vegetarian so understand most of the issues. FWIW I don't lecture friends for eating meat - probably would't have any left if I did - but do freely discuss animal welfare, organic farming and the horrors of factory farms. Anyway thanks for starting this thread and posting such important information.

Tane Mahuta
12th August 2011, 07:36
You know, I´m a vegetarian for about 10 years. I´ve watched most animal rights documentaries out there, but this one is so strong, that I couldn´t pass its first 20 minutes or so...As soon as I started crying, I stopped the dvd...I just couldn´t stand watching it.

This is hard stuff, specially for meat eaters...This is shock therapy, for sure.



Yes...Yes..this is a powerful movie people. Recomended viewing. Shocking....

especially for a meatlover like me....

There is a saying in the movie that I particularly liked

"If we had to kill for our meat....we would all be Vegetarians"

So True!

TM

Lord Sidious
12th August 2011, 07:45
I don't have the intestinal fortitude to watch things like this.
If I do, the darkness inside me grows to strong, too fast.
I will take your word that it is bad.