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ktlight
14th August 2011, 07:47
FYI:
A senior Iranian lawmaker says the Islamic Republic will spare no effort to stop the UK government's crackdown on British protesters.
“Iran will use all of its potentials to stop the repression of the disadvantaged in the UK and [to secure] the release of political prisoners,” Fars News Agency quoted Chairwoman of the Human Rights Committee of the Iran's Majlis (parliament) Zohreh Elahian, as saying on Saturday.
She said the UK must make the necessary preparations for Majlis human rights observers to visit the country.
Elahian also said some of the parliamentarians are to join a protest rally, which is to be held by Iranian university students in front of the British embassy in Tehran on Sunday.
Unrest has rocked Britain in a scale unprecedented in 30 years following the recent killing of a black man, Mark Duggan, by the police. The security forces gunned down the 26-year-old in the London suburb of Tottenham.
The protests have spread to major cities like Birmingham, Liverpool, and Bristol. Several people have also been killed during the government-ordered crackdown on protests.
Meanwhile, Iranian lawmakers are set to lodge complaints with the British embassy in Tehran against the British government's violations of human rights.
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has strongly condemned the violent attacks, saying, “The true opposition in Britain is the people that are pushed to the ground and beaten on London streets and slain and yet no one hears their voice."
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193803.html
Ria
14th August 2011, 10:02
I ask my self, what is the agenda here?
Cidersomerset
14th August 2011, 11:08
Thanks Ktlight ............Well whats good for the Goose.....................................Let them come over and have a Gander!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Martin
14th August 2011, 11:33
Well I guess they just couldn't missed out on the oppertunity to give "the west" a little bit of it's own medicine.
Martin
RMorgan
14th August 2011, 14:31
Well, things are bad in England, but Iran is not quite an example of human rights...
Maia Gabrial
14th August 2011, 18:59
Just kind of curious, ktlight. Have you seen any of this unrest since you're from London? It really sounds pretty horrible in the UK. And it also sounds as though everyone has had enough and they're not taking it anymore....My blessings to all of you....
Wonder if Americans will be courageous enough when they've had enough, too.....?
ktlight
14th August 2011, 19:42
Just kind of curious, ktlight. Have you seen any of this unrest since you're from London? It really sounds pretty horrible in the UK. And it also sounds as though everyone has had enough and they're not taking it anymore....My blessings to all of you....
Wonder if Americans will be courageous enough when they've had enough, too.....?
I saw it only on TV. Where I live, although it is multicultural, there was no violence. It happened to the East and West of where I live, and further to the North and South. The River Thames separates South London from the rest of London.
Some years ago, the government (I think Maggie Thatcher was the PM at the time, I might be wrong here) took away control of children from the parents. No parent was allowed to discipline the child. The child could report any slapping to the child authorities and the parents would be taken to court. Soon after that, teachers were deprived of instituting discipline.
I had not known about the riots until I watched it on TV. I was completely disappointed, because I had wished for a silent protest, if there were to be any protest, but it had got out of hand. The reason was initially unknown. It gradually became clear through youtube uploads. There were two main vids, one showing the police batoning a young girl, with a female voice yelling at the police that 'it's a girl, it's a girl you c***' and the other showing people describing how the police had killed a young man. It spread very quickly to other cities in the North of UK and the SW and then to the East. The riots appeared to be a mixture of panic and determined looting.
The trouble is, education has been dumbed down, most of the kids come out of school unable to spell. They have not been prepared for work. They have to go to academies in order to receive welfare for attending this 'further education'.
Most police stations have been closed down. The general public rely on main media for information as to what is going on, so you know they are misinformed, just like in USA.
Most people are following the media lead and blaming the kids. This is because of the looting and setting stuff on fire. They do not realise that traders are insured, everything that is in their shops is logged, so traceable. Most people are 9-5ers and therefore do not have the impetus or time to find out what is really going on.
Now the PM has called in ?? Bratton from UAS to help the police sort out the gangs, which the police generally are objecting to. They say if there are 400 gangs in wherever Bratton comes from under his watch, there must be a problem. We do not have that many gangs here.
You can see that our young people aren't thinking properly. It takes life to sort that out, especially when there has been nothing in your education to induce you to go there.
Cameron is blaming everyone else but himself. He is causing more hardship, showing no compassion.
One child who has been to court, and the court has caused his entirely family to be evicted. What is the point of that?
It's a social tragedy that started when parental discipline was taken away from parents, and this is the outcome.
Cidersomerset
14th August 2011, 20:46
No maia its absolutly lovely in the shires and the suburbs. Innercity crime is a different matter but compared to the rest of the world, this is a blip.....Unless it is going to
be engineered to escalate..I think it may be a ploy to get more big brother legislation passed....If things get drastically worse economically then it may get as bad as the eighties.
These riots and copycats around a few of the major cities seem strange. If spontainious then it is just an evoluton in youth crime ,apparently they are using blackberries that
can be locked. Now TPTB may be worried about that, and I'm surprised 'terrorists are not using them...Oops the real terrorists are get my drift......
Anyway a look at crime figures around the world shows you how civilised/controlled we are over here...
Firearm related deaths...compared to South Africa( 31,918 ) Collumbia (21,898) Thailand ( 20,032) USA (9,369)......UK(14) even accounting for higher pop in the US aprox 5 - 1 ratio with the UK ... 300,000,000..US....compared to 60,000,000..UK...we are not on the same planet read for yourself ..Cheers Steve
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms
ktlight
14th August 2011, 21:06
Cidersomerset,you have chosen gun crime figures. Total crime figures are 6million+ in UK, second to USA.
Blackberry, it was reported, was to issue names of users on that day in the appropriate areas. They were informed that they would be hacked if they proceeded to do it.
Civilised? Have you ever travelled on the underground?
Cidersomerset
14th August 2011, 21:35
Ktlight your right ,but thats because our criminal system is more effective with all the camaras on the lesser catagories .and the reported crime was ie crime resolved gives a false picture,
true overall we are 2nd to US but its drugs ,car thefts, White coller, shop lifting , and crimes that can be bargained for like you will get a lighter sentence if you take another 20 or so other offences into account... I'm not saying things are perfect but its not like Bagdad or Kabul as the media would have you believe.......and yes I have been on the underground about 20 times and I was nervous and kept looking for knapsacks in case of bombs , and I would not like to travel at night...Of course there is, and always has been, and will be, city crime is much worse than in rural towns....I like to visit a city now and again but to live there I'm not sure.......Steve
Ps I don't really like statistics that much because they can be massaged to fit whatever ,but firearm statistics is mainly because we are dissarmed, and those with access keep their use
for inter gang disputes...
Billy
14th August 2011, 21:41
What goes around, comes arouind, :boink: Another giggle today :-)
Maia Gabrial
15th August 2011, 14:42
Thank you both, ktlight and Cindersomerset. It breaks my heart to hear that so much trouble is your country. But you Brits are a courageous bunch. It's starting out with this "grumble". And before you know it, it'll be a roar. Will your leadership be able to hear you then? Take you serious then?
Bless you all....
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