ktlight
14th August 2011, 08:38
FYI:
An interesting exchange on Facebook is reproduced below regarding some Councils' determination to evict persons convicted of involvement in the recent UK riots. Wandsworth Council want to evict an entire family whose son was found guilty of involvement in the Clapham Junction looting.
One wonders what long-term good such a local authority imagines will come from this. Will they make an underclass intimidated into passivity and obedience, however grudging?
Is satisfying the understandable cries for punitive action from shopkeepers and a rattled middle class wise if this action strays into the realms of collective punishment, a point Jim Murphy fairly raises below?
For myself, even if a convicted person is the only one evicted, this strategy makes no sense. Deprive the underclass of even a place to live? I can think of no better way of creating genuinely terrifying psychopaths.
Anyone paying attention to the crimes of the elite (and the cover-up of these crimes by parliament and the media) knows very well that the sickness at the bottom of society is a manifestation of a much greater sickness at the top.
Bearing in mind the unwillingness of our entire parliament, even the old icons of the left like Diane Abbott, who rose to prominence on the back of the Hackney riots, to see itself as part of (never mind the source of) the problem, might we not expect with absolute certainty that a similar sickness will manifest itself later....more than likely on a much larger scale. The middle classes, whose children cannot afford to get a mortgage on a place to live and who are being inducted into massive debt before they even start their working lives will become heavily involved.
When this time comes, and it will, more than sports and mobile phone shops will have cause to worry.
Here is the Facebook extract referred to:
Jim Murphy
Collective punishment is classified as a war crime under Geneva Convention. Wandsworth Council is trending on Twitter because they have served an eviction notice on the family of a young guy who was involved in the riots (1st offence). Politicians are idiots. When they were sitting around discussing their facist tactics, the people were out on the streets cleaning up after the riots. Politicians serve Bankers not citizens and we no longer need them. #DirectDemocracy now
11 hours ago · ·
Philip S******
The Geneva Conventions though only apply in times of war, including civil war. What happened at the weekend was neither despite some of the participants believing so apparently. Tenancy agreements however, were almost certainly broken.
Jim Murphy
It is less about the applicability of the legislation and more about the moral imperative. The ban on collective punishment in the Geneva Convention is designed to combat the once widely accepted concept of reprisal or revenge to look at it in its proper context. An eye for an eye is not part of the Christian tradition which has been the bedrock of our laws and culture for centuries. In short, this is anti-Christian and should be recognised as such.
Watch this black man point the finger and put his case very well during Boris Johnson's visit to Clapham Junction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3l0bkOj1Dr0
source
http://kevboyle.blogspot.com/2011/08/collective-punishment-of-rioters.html
An interesting exchange on Facebook is reproduced below regarding some Councils' determination to evict persons convicted of involvement in the recent UK riots. Wandsworth Council want to evict an entire family whose son was found guilty of involvement in the Clapham Junction looting.
One wonders what long-term good such a local authority imagines will come from this. Will they make an underclass intimidated into passivity and obedience, however grudging?
Is satisfying the understandable cries for punitive action from shopkeepers and a rattled middle class wise if this action strays into the realms of collective punishment, a point Jim Murphy fairly raises below?
For myself, even if a convicted person is the only one evicted, this strategy makes no sense. Deprive the underclass of even a place to live? I can think of no better way of creating genuinely terrifying psychopaths.
Anyone paying attention to the crimes of the elite (and the cover-up of these crimes by parliament and the media) knows very well that the sickness at the bottom of society is a manifestation of a much greater sickness at the top.
Bearing in mind the unwillingness of our entire parliament, even the old icons of the left like Diane Abbott, who rose to prominence on the back of the Hackney riots, to see itself as part of (never mind the source of) the problem, might we not expect with absolute certainty that a similar sickness will manifest itself later....more than likely on a much larger scale. The middle classes, whose children cannot afford to get a mortgage on a place to live and who are being inducted into massive debt before they even start their working lives will become heavily involved.
When this time comes, and it will, more than sports and mobile phone shops will have cause to worry.
Here is the Facebook extract referred to:
Jim Murphy
Collective punishment is classified as a war crime under Geneva Convention. Wandsworth Council is trending on Twitter because they have served an eviction notice on the family of a young guy who was involved in the riots (1st offence). Politicians are idiots. When they were sitting around discussing their facist tactics, the people were out on the streets cleaning up after the riots. Politicians serve Bankers not citizens and we no longer need them. #DirectDemocracy now
11 hours ago · ·
Philip S******
The Geneva Conventions though only apply in times of war, including civil war. What happened at the weekend was neither despite some of the participants believing so apparently. Tenancy agreements however, were almost certainly broken.
Jim Murphy
It is less about the applicability of the legislation and more about the moral imperative. The ban on collective punishment in the Geneva Convention is designed to combat the once widely accepted concept of reprisal or revenge to look at it in its proper context. An eye for an eye is not part of the Christian tradition which has been the bedrock of our laws and culture for centuries. In short, this is anti-Christian and should be recognised as such.
Watch this black man point the finger and put his case very well during Boris Johnson's visit to Clapham Junction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3l0bkOj1Dr0
source
http://kevboyle.blogspot.com/2011/08/collective-punishment-of-rioters.html