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ktlight
15th August 2011, 08:21
FYI:

Twenty Year Veteran:

"This is a multi-billion dollar per year industry and a "cure" would put a lot of people out of work." by Geraldine Philips - (henrymakow.com)

I work for a "cancer research center" and I call it this only because that is in their actual name.

I have seen and read things that boggle the mind in the so-called treatment of folks over the years. The only explanation that I can offer is that once the "C" word comes into the conversation people become deaf and dumb to anything but what course to take to rid themselves of this horrible plague.

Treatment is akin to using leaches...and worse...but at a far far far greater price. Walk in without insurance coverage and see how much treatment you get.

Cap out your existing coverage in the middle of treatment...and treatment ceases. Immediately. This is and probably always has been about money.

I keep telling people to stop giving money to the "cancer research" because no one is frigging looking for a cure (we have several and they have been carefully hidden away from public view)...this is a multi-billion dollar per year industry and a "cure" would put a lot of people out of work.

NO ONE is seriously looking for a cure...at least not "serious academics"...the fringe nut cases are but of course those are the people who went into medicine as a means to help humanity and not become richer than god by next Thursday so that is a completely separate issue.

I have worked in the medical field for over 20 years, most of which has been closely associated with cancer research and treatment...when I was personally diagnosed with breast cancer, about 7 years ago, I was living in Phoenix. So, of course, I was referred to CTC post haste. CTC has the state mandate to treat cancer patients, with or without insurance and to this end gets large sums of money from the state to treat indigents.

That does not happen. Indigents get turfed. Quickly. Also, at one point I became suspicious of some physicians at CTC and did my own research...I found Ph.D researchers doing hands on breast and pelvic exams...researchers with no clinical training or experience. Does that matter? Ask your wife or sister or mother if they mind if a non doctor researcher does that? Probably they will say yes.

There was also a very long list of physicians who were in the country (not as students) who had not passed medical boards as required for all practicing physicians. They had been practicing for years and had no medical license. There were American doctors who had not passed medical boards, i.e. were not licensed physicians who were also practicing at CTC...they were treating patients (NOT as a student with faculty overview, independently), they were dispensing drugs...if they are not licensed physicians they are also not licensed to dispense anything stronger than aspirin)...but they were writing prescriptions and ordering medications including chemotherapy medications for patients unsupervised.

There were even unlicensed physicians who were doing surgery. (not only at CTC either). Unlicensed physicians are also filing insurance claims and if they are not licensed, filing an insurance claim for services rendered is fraud of the highest magnitude. I did my research well and I had lists of names and dates and the newspaper blew me off and would not cover the story. The TV stations did likewise. CTC buys a lot of advertising time and no one was willing to rock the boat on those advertising dollars. What a shock.

Held hostage? YOU BET...and you have no idea the depth to which this extends. Personally, I chose to not have surgery, not have chemotherapy and not have radiation (what and lose my waist length hair? I do not think so!)...I used Essiac...to excellent response and still have all the associated body parts (and the hair).


CONCLUSION

When you talk about being held hostage by cancer, you need to back up to the original diagnosis. Do you...or most folks...have any means to know or understand a diagnosis that you are given?

NO? What a surprise. So...you are totally at the mercy of the hospital. When a doctor says cancer, you assume that he/she knows what they are talking about...a faulty assumption in some cases...and you assume that they know what is best to treat it...another faulty assumption.

The major industry that hospitals sell is not healing...it is education (or lack thereof) and blind faith in something you do not understand. This is true of lots of diagnoses besides cancer, it is just that cancer is the big money maker for most facilities...secondary to obesity which is coming up fast.

Hospitals are scary places for lots of reasons and mistakes are vastly more common than what you read or hear about. Everyone makes mistakes of course...doctors bury theirs...with the full knowledge and corporate cover up of the hospital administration. I can't wait to retire.

source
http://www.henrymakow.com/by_geraldine_philips_henrymako.html

Dawn
15th August 2011, 08:40
Thank you for this post... it is so true. I have done work as a healer and it is amazing how many treatments there outside of Western Medicine that work really well. Everyone on the forum is aware of this situation I hope. Treatments that I have seen work include the Beam Ray (Rife frequencies with argon lights and sound), MMS, Enzacta's product called PXP, Dandelion roots harvested without washing and then powdered, and the information in Hulda Clarke's books.

The 'care' in hospitals and by doctors for cancer patients is similar to torture. After watching this for years I have realized there is a doctor-patient soul contract to kill the patient. I think the agreement allows people who wish to leave the planet do so in an approved, though tortuous manner. I have lost count of the people I've met who will not take the time to research alternative treatments that work. They so firmly believe that doctors are where you get health information that they are unable to consider other information.

It is sometimes difficult to remain neutral as I watch people make choices which are so damaging for themselves. I read somewhere that Karma is simply conditioning which prevents a person from making wise choices which could prevent them from experiencing pain. What an interesting time to be alive, and what a challenge it is to respect the choices beings make.

Corncrake
15th August 2011, 08:45
The only explanation that I can offer is that once the "C" word comes into the conversation people become deaf and dumb to anything but what course to take to rid themselves of this horrible plague. I think this is it - most of us are terrified when diagnosed with a terminal illness and become despondent, give in to pressure from well meaning but often ignorant family and friends to follow a conventional medical 'cure'. It is amazing how quickly we give up our autonomy when in the presence of medical staff in white coats. I vere more towards blaming the pharmaceutical industry though the BMA (in the UK) has to be held accountable too.

Nathalie
15th August 2011, 08:47
You know... I'm a student nurse, and while I have 2 years left in school, it has occured to me that being a nurse - at least in France - consists of filling papers and handing out pills... I really don't feel there is a wish to help poeple at all. If poeple were healthy, who would make money? So they spray our food with chemicals, which make us ill and then they prescribe medication... That's all it is! But you all know this of course! But it's just beyond me!! I hope that in my lifetime, I see the monetary system collpase! Whatever chaos follows, I'm sure in the end, we'll all be better off...

Lord Sidious
15th August 2011, 11:07
Black Salve.

GCS1103
15th August 2011, 13:38
The cures for most cancers have been around for years. Much of the research has been done at Sloan Memorial Kettering in N.Y. and hidden away from the general public. If they were disbributed to the public, there would be very little need for Sloan Memorial and all the other facilities where cancer is treated. The oncologists, hospitals, nuclear radiologists, drug companies and a host of other parasitic companies would be, for all intents and purposes, out of business. I have been in the research center at Sloan and can tell you that it's all there. Not for you and me, but for those people who are "worthy" of these life saving drugs.

I am trying to get my pharmaceutical "whistleblower" client to work on that case too, but he knows he would have a very short life span if he did. Bringing suit under the False Claims Act for using non-FDA approved off label drugs, is one thing; bringing proof of sequestering life saving cancer medication is another. Hopefully soon, these drugs will be released for all of us.

Maia Gabrial
15th August 2011, 16:17
It's sad that here's ONE MORE thing that they do to us. When someone who's in that business is disgusted with what's happening, what does that say? My friends, there are cures, but the Rockefeller's FDA make sure they're illegal....Once all the criminals concerned and their greed are taken out of the way, we'll start to see alot of healing....

conk
15th August 2011, 16:35
Sadly, it's not just cancer. Heart dis-ease, diabetes, high blood pressure, dementia, arthritis, digestive ailments, etc. etc. etc. Conventional medicine takes the wrong approach to dis-ease treatment. They are great at mechanical or trauma issues, but pitifully lacking in how they address dis-ease.

Reseach to the debate between Antoinne Beauchamp and Louis Pastuer. Beauchamp was a champion for natural remedies. Pasteur became Rockefellers tool for developing the pharmaceutical paradigm. Pastuer was a fraud and a liar, and a thief of ideas. Had convention sided with Beauchamp and his truth, the world would be healthier.

king anthony
15th August 2011, 16:38
I say, I have held the material in my hand (but for a moment) – that no one should be dying of anything, that most cancers have patents on them and that the cures exist.

Nathalie
15th August 2011, 17:45
I'm not sure this is the right thread to bring up the subject, but right now, I'm working at a psychiatric clinic. Mostly people with bipolar disorder, depression, alcohol addiction... People that have real lives, but are in need of a break to get their "health" back. So they get their treatment, and from day to day, we do see an improvement. And as "healers", we're happy about it. But then what? What is the origin of these illnesses? Any illness! Is it physical? Psycho-somatic? Energetic? Behavioural? Environmental? All of the above? If we could crack these codes, and go to the root, therefore the cause of the illness, then we could not only cure them, but prevent them! Yes? I find that a lot of patients are expecting to be cured from the exterior. They have no idea they have to work at their own healing. And the health system today certainly won't admit to the fact that we have a universe inside of us and that we can cure ourselves. Nope! Keep popping pills, buddy...

But that brings us to the next level. Why an illness? Is it not part of the evolution of our soul? Should we survive the said illness? Maybe we're not meant to. Maybe at a certain point, we are meant to leave our body and move on. So then, is the health system responsible? What about mental health? And how many mental patients are in institutions for the wrong reasons?? Are chemical molecules the only answer?

On a more personal note, I am very much interested in all different kinds of medication, wether herbal, vibrational, different energies... Much to my chagrin, the only thing that has ever worked for me, are chemical molecules!!! How 'bout that???

Folks, I could ramble about this for days!!!!! But as a student nurse, stuck in a messed up system, I ask myself many questions, and it makes me want to learn everything there is to know about all methods of healing and indeed I am very passionate about the whole subject... So although what I've written isn't very enlightening, I hope it'll raise some questions...

Corncrake
15th August 2011, 21:09
This is slightly off topic but I was interested to read that certain pharmaceutical companies are taking themselves off Facebook now they have to have an open wall - up until now the public were not allowed to comment on the wall page. Apparently they are worried people might write adverse comments about their products or suggest cheaper alternatives! http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/pharmaceutical-companies-lose-protections-on-facebook-decide-to-close-pages/2011/07/22/gIQATQGFBJ_story.html

ktlight
15th August 2011, 21:19
I think we all know that only 2% of all diagnoses worldwide are correct, ie 98% wrong diagnoses. We also know that we should keep our bodies in an alkaline condition and can do this easily with bicarb and maple syrup. We also know that blood tests done are not like dark field blood tests where all that is in the blood is visible.

We know that disease is a multinational business, designed to make profit. It's not like in China where the doctor gets paid upon recovery to good health.

Hummingbird
15th August 2011, 22:33
The food for cancer is white sugar, the fertilizer that keeps cancer cells thriving is a hormone that comes from fat, specifically unresourceful fat, bad oils meats dairy High fructose corn syrup,SUGAR etc..

"Let thy food be thy medicine" not let thy food be your poison...

And if sugar feeds cancer and all inflammation in the body as a matter of fact, then no wonder why the PTB members like Donald Rumsfeld have part in creating sugar knock offs that are even worse.

The answers about dis-ease in the body are found in what we do and dont consume, which is why you will never get all the right answers from a medical dr in a hospital because they are not allowed to give nutritional advice. Doctors that go to school for 8 years dont even take one day of nutritional class!!

If everyone doesnt know about Udo's oil please check this link and get you some..... ESSENTAIL

Udo Erasmus speaking on essentail fatty acids, how much we need, where are the best sources and why plant based is better than fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbU6w8yYJI

Lord Sidious
15th August 2011, 22:54
I'm not sure this is the right thread to bring up the subject, but right now, I'm working at a psychiatric clinic. Mostly people with bipolar disorder, depression, alcohol addiction... People that have real lives, but are in need of a break to get their "health" back. So they get their treatment, and from day to day, we do see an improvement. And as "healers", we're happy about it. But then what? What is the origin of these illnesses? Any illness! Is it physical? Psycho-somatic? Energetic? Behavioural? Environmental? All of the above? If we could crack these codes, and go to the root, therefore the cause of the illness, then we could not only cure them, but prevent them! Yes? I find that a lot of patients are expecting to be cured from the exterior. They have no idea they have to work at their own healing. And the health system today certainly won't admit to the fact that we have a universe inside of us and that we can cure ourselves. Nope! Keep popping pills, buddy...

But that brings us to the next level. Why an illness? Is it not part of the evolution of our soul? Should we survive the said illness? Maybe we're not meant to. Maybe at a certain point, we are meant to leave our body and move on. So then, is the health system responsible? What about mental health? And how many mental patients are in institutions for the wrong reasons?? Are chemical molecules the only answer?

On a more personal note, I am very much interested in all different kinds of medication, wether herbal, vibrational, different energies... Much to my chagrin, the only thing that has ever worked for me, are chemical molecules!!! How 'bout that???

Folks, I could ramble about this for days!!!!! But as a student nurse, stuck in a messed up system, I ask myself many questions, and it makes me want to learn everything there is to know about all methods of healing and indeed I am very passionate about the whole subject... So although what I've written isn't very enlightening, I hope it'll raise some questions...

First of all, welcome to avalon.
Secondly, you are in danger of becoming a heretic.
You speak of holistic solutions, which is true healing, but that isn't what the ''medical'' industry is about these days.
Tread that line very carefully and do what your higher self tells you is right.

Positive Vibe Merchant
15th August 2011, 23:28
I heard a great analogy about 'cancer' and what it is, and it made a certain sense to me, which I want to share with everyone.

Disease is caused simply by lifestyle choices, and lack of self care so attempting to fight disease with modern medical procedures or drugs will only cause more disease, as you are placing foreign bodies, toxins and poisons into your body that should not be in there.

Basically what 'cancer' cells are, are an accumulation of all of these toxins that have been placed in the body, either through pharmaceuticals, poor diet, cosmetics, lotions etc.

If over a period of time, if the various attempts to remove the toxins, whether it be through the skin, or any of the systems our body has, the body creates a 'bin' which does its best to contain all of these toxins in a single place, which we term 'cells' of 'cancer'.

If for some reasons this 'bin' is cut out, or disappears for any reason, since there is still toxins in the body it creates more bins to store toe toxins in, so on and so on.

An overly simplified version, but if you look at it in this way, it kind of makes a certain sense.

The best remedy is to rid yourself of the toxins in your body. a complete clean out, a fast from the toxic relationships we have with things in our lives.

M@

WhiteFeather
16th August 2011, 00:20
Karma will eventually come back to these lamestream doctors/physicians/and quack research institutes...The FDA Here In America Needs To Be Investigated Immediately. But will not, because our many corrupted politicians and lobbysists are part of this evil system.

A Ph Body prevents many diseases and cancers/fungus, When your Ph is normal, Cancer and Diseases as well as fungus cannot grow in this alkaline body! Read This Awesome Link On Ph and Cancer.

http://b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q3&page=ph

MiguelQ
16th August 2011, 00:25
So.. we need to create a job for those doctors willing t cure. And create a true pharma healing. Which takes very little money. Anyone would work for free? Why not, many of us have a hobbie, that we like, which is to help others.

WhiteFeather
16th August 2011, 00:28
This is slightly off topic but I was interested to read that certain pharmaceutical companies are taking themselves off Facebook now they have to have an open wall - up until now the public were not allowed to comment on the wall page. Apparently they are worried people might write adverse comments about their products or suggest cheaper alternatives! http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/pharmaceutical-companies-lose-protections-on-facebook-decide-to-close-pages/2011/07/22/gIQATQGFBJ_story.html

Awesome Idea!.....We should go on their websites and tell the truth about Cancer Cures, The Cure grows from right under our feet.

Nathalie
16th August 2011, 14:12
First of all, welcome to avalon.
Secondly, you are in danger of becoming a heretic.
You speak of holistic solutions, which is true healing, but that isn't what the ''medical'' industry is about these days.
Tread that line very carefully and do what your higher self tells you is right.

Thank you for welcoming me, Lord Sidious. If I'm a heretic, so be it. Obviously I'm on my guard, and I will not discuss any of this in nursing school. I follow my gut and open my mouth where I feel the ones I'm speaking to can handle it. But I have 2 medical doctors, one who uses chromatherapy and acupunture, another one who uses past life regressions and listens to her guides, in front of me, in her office to see what treatment will suit me best. So there are a few good ones around... I have hope! But in the meantime, I keep quiet!

Lord Sidious
16th August 2011, 23:39
First of all, welcome to avalon.
Secondly, you are in danger of becoming a heretic.
You speak of holistic solutions, which is true healing, but that isn't what the ''medical'' industry is about these days.
Tread that line very carefully and do what your higher self tells you is right.

Thank you for welcoming me, Lord Sidious. If I'm a heretic, so be it. Obviously I'm on my guard, and I will not discuss any of this in nursing school. I follow my gut and open my mouth where I feel the ones I'm speaking to can handle it. But I have 2 medical doctors, one who uses chromatherapy and acupunture, another one who uses past life regressions and listens to her guides, in front of me, in her office to see what treatment will suit me best. So there are a few good ones around... I have hope! But in the meantime, I keep quiet!

Don't do like I used to do.
When I was in a situation like that, I would try to show them the error of their ways for their own good.
Then they figured out I was a heretic and I got the boot.
I would win the battle and lose the war.
In the big picture, you can affect more after you qualify.
I think you are already on that road anyways.
Don't worry about being a heretic. When all the non heretics are nuts, that must be a good thing.

Carmen
17th August 2011, 03:52
Yeah, LS, if one arouses the monster (ego) then the walls go up. Softly, softly, plant seed.