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Richard
9th June 2010, 15:11
Disaster Timeline
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Gita
10th June 2010, 09:11
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The Gulf Spill Continues: Is Obama Powerless Against BP?

After BP successfully placed a cap to divert some of the spewing oil into tankers, thousands of gallons continue to flow daily into the gulf. August is slated as the earliest date that any permanent solution may emerge. BP remains totally in charge of potentially the largest environmental disaster in the earth’s recorded history, a fact that proves — in “check mate” fashion — that corporations dominate the inner workings of the U.S. government, a truth previously revealed by the bank bailouts.

More than one gigantic eco-system may be destroyed by BP, and the President of the U.S. is sadly reduced to lecturing in “serious tones,” with daily adjustments of tone based on the results of polling agencies.

When the polls reported that Obama wasn’t taking the oil spill seriously enough, his next TV appearance depicted him as “outraged.” Yet his continuing lack of action doesn’t match his new, stronger emotions; nor does his inaction match the dire seriousness of the situation.

Indeed, Obama continues to allow BP to lie about the seriousness of the spill, even when numerous independent scientists disputed BP’s estimates of the spillage. Of course Obama knew that BP had a profit incentive to lie, while Obama has his own incentive to allow the lie — and continued lies — of BP.

One reason Obama doesn’t challenge BP is because he’s on their payroll. The news agency Reuters explains: “During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.” (May 5, 2010).

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Continued here. (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19634)

Gita
10th June 2010, 09:37
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Attorney: Deepwater Horizon Managers Knew About Oil Rig Problem Before Explosion

Top Houston attorney Tony Buzbee says he has new evidence which indicates that Deepwater Horizon’s managers knew that the BP oil rig had major problems before its explosion on April 20, citing the eyewitness account of a crew member who rescued burning workers on the rig of a conversation between Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell and someone in Houston.

According to the witness, Harrell was screaming, “Are you ****ing happy? Are you ****ing happy? The rig’s on fire! I told you this was gonna happen.”

Harrell was talking via satellite phone and whoever was on the other end of the line was apparently trying to calm him down as the rig burned.

“I am ****ing calm,” said Harrell, according to Buzbee. “You realize the rig is burning?”

A boat captain then asked Harrell to leave the bridge. Transocean have refused to confirm or deny that the conversation took place.

Buzbee is a respected lawyer with a successful history of winning cases brought against oil companies. He represents 15 rig workers along with dozens of shrimpers, seafood restaurants, and dock workers. The witness to the conversation signed a 3 page statement attesting to the fact that it took place, but refuses to be identified for fear of reprisals.

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Continued here. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/attorney-deepwater-horizon-managers-knew-about-oil-rig-problem-before-explosion.html)

Bill Ryan
10th June 2010, 10:11
Attorney: Deepwater Horizon Managers Knew About Oil Rig Problem Before Explosion

FULL ARTICLE (http://www.prisonplanet.com/attorney-deepwater-horizon-managers-knew-about-oil-rig-problem-before-explosion.html)

Thanks, Gita - Folks, this is MUST READ.

Gita
10th June 2010, 10:17
Most welcomed Bill.

Stardust - the vid goes in VIDEO ONLY section hun!! I know it's confusing!:confused:

Gita
10th June 2010, 11:44
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USNORTHCOM Gears Up For Potential Attack On U.S. Soil

USNORTHCOM has admitted that they are preparing military operations within the United States. This is the first time in history this has been done and they will be working with DHS, state and local law enforcement on U.S. soil.

The focus of this operation will be in our own back yard. Northcom is planning on defending against enemy attacks and supporting civilian authorities with fighting an unconventional foe, all on US soil.
NORTHCOM went on to say that the drill will be in the Gulf area. They anticipate no infrastructure and possible extreme weather conditions.

“Even more significant, this inspection marked the first time that any Air Force unit has been wartime validated in support of the security and defense of the United States of America. That’s huge,” Nelson said.

“The survival of thousand Americans rests on this training”.

The Intel Hub believes that their could be a mass evacuation of the Gulf. The chemicals that are being used on this oil spill could, by themselves cause a tremendous amount of various health problems.We will keep you posted. This could be part of Operation Garden Plot. and is currently saying that the oil spill should be stopped by next week. One thing is for sure, the dispersant isn’t going anywhere in months much less weeks.

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Full article. (http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/09/usnorthcom-gears-up-for-potential-attack-on-u-s-soil/)

Gita
10th June 2010, 13:18
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Evidence Points To BP Oil Spill False Flag

- Sales of shares and stocks in days and weeks beforehand
- Halliburton link, acquisition of cleanup company days before explosion
- BP report cites undocumented tampering with well sealing equipment
- Government uses disaster to push for Carbon Tax, Nationalization talk


Troubling evidence surrounding the Deepwater Horizon explosion on April 20th suggests that the incident could have been manufactured.

On April 12th, just over one week before the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, Halliburton, the world’s second largest oilfield services corporation, surprised some by acquiring Boots & Coots, a relatively small but vastly experienced oil well control company.

The company deals with fires and blowouts on oil rigs and oil wells. It was responsible for putting out roughly one third of the more than 700 oil well fires set in Kuwait by retreating Iraqi soldiers during the Gulf War.

The deal itself is still under scrutiny with Boots and Coots facing an ongoing investigation into “possible breaches of fiduciary duty and other violations of state law”

Where this information gets really interesting is with the fact that Halliburton is named in the majority of some two dozen lawsuits filed since the explosion by Gulf Coast people and businesses who claim that the company is to blame for the disaster.

Halliburton was forced to admit in testimony at a congressional hearing last month that it carried out a cementing operation 20 hours before the Gulf of Mexico rig went up in flames. The lawsuits claim that four Halliburton workers stationed on the rig improperly capped the well.

As the New York Times noted on May 26th, “BP officials chose, partly for financial reasons, to use a type of casing for the well that the company knew was the riskier of two options,”

Workers from the rig and company officials have said that hours before the explosion, gases were leaking through the cement, which had been set in place by the oil services contractor, Halliburton. Investigators have said these leaks were the likely cause of the explosion.”

According to a 2007 study by Minerals Management Service, cementing was a factor in 18 of 39 rig blowouts in the gulf between 1992 and 2006.

Another intriguing connection Boots and Coots has to the Deepwater Horizon explosion comes via Pat Campbell, the man BP has employed to cap the well beneath the ruined rig. Campbell worked for Boots and Coots as general manager for many years.

BP has admitted to buying Yahoo and Google keywords in an attempt to control publicly available information in the wake of the catastrophe. It seems that the company is taking all the flack for the spill while the Halliburton link is being roundly ignored.

BP’s prepared testimony briefing, which has since leaked online, also intriguingly notes that the Hydraulic Control System on equipment designed to automatically seal the well in an emergency was modified without their knowledge sometime before the explosion.

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Continued here. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/evidence-points-to-bp-oil-spill-false-flag.html)

Gita
10th June 2010, 13:25
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Off-Shore Drilling Stocks Fall Amid Reports Of Another Leak

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Off-shore drilling stocks slumped Tuesday on concerns about the length of the moratorium on deepwater operations and the future of the drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, as reports surfaced of a second oil leak there, this one at a well operated by Diamond Offshore Drilling Inc. (DO).

Goldman Sachs analysts cut their view on the entire deepwater drilling sector to neutral, saying the ongoing disaster at BP PLC's (BP, BP.LN) Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico is causing significant uncertainty for the whole off-shore industry.

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Source (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100608-710711.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines)

Gita
10th June 2010, 13:32
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Chairman of Goldman Sachs International Was - Until Last Year - Also Chairman of BP

Janine Wedel has written extensively on how the "shadow elite" rule the world and about the "flexians" - the movers and shakers of the shadow elite who glide across borders, and structure overlapping (and not fully revealed) roles in government, business, media, and think tanks to serve their own agendas.


Wedel says that flexians wear many hats both within and outside of government, and use their networks of contacts to influence policy - are warping our democracy and the rule of law.

Peter Sutherland is the quintessential flexian.

According to his September 2009 bio:
Peter Sutherland is chairman of BP plc (1997 - current). He is also chairman of Goldman Sachs International (1995 - current). He was appointed chairman of the London School of Economics in 2008.... Before these appointments, he was the founding director-general of the World Trade Organisation. He had previously served as director general of GATT since July 1993 ...
Sutherland resigned as BP's chairman in 2009, but apparently still serves in various key capacities.

Sutherland is managing director - as well as chairman - of Goldman Sachs International (Goldman Sachs International is the very powerful subsidiary of the Goldman Sachs Group, of which Lloyd Blankfein is CEO). Sutherland is also an Advisory Director of Goldman Sachs Group.

Sutherland is also European Chairman for the Trilateral Commission.

He has, at various times, attended Bilderberg meetings.

As if that is not enough, Sutherland also serves in the following capacities (click on "Read Full Background"):
Mr. Sutherland served as an Attorney General of Ireland and also served as European Commissioner from 1985 to 1989 where he was responsible for competition policy.... He serves as the Chairman of British Petroleum, BP Amoco PLC and United Kingdom. From 1989 to 1993, he served as the Chairman of Allied Irish Bank. .... He serves as a Non-Executive Director of Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson. He serves as a Director of Goldman Sachs International. He has been Member of Supervisory Board at Allianz SE since January 2010 and serves as its Member of International Advisory Board .... Mr. Sutherland served as a Non Executive Director of BP Plc since July 1995. He serves as a Member of Foundation Board of World Economic Forum. He served as an Independent Non Executive Director of National Westminster Bank PLC since January 2001. He served as an Independent Non Executive Director of The Royal Bank Of Scotland Plc from January 2001 to February 6, 2009.... In addition, he serves on the board of Allianz, Koc Holding A.S. and is a member of the advisory board of Eli Lilly.... He served as a Director of LM Ericsson Telephone Co since 1996, Ericsson SPA since 1996 and Investor AB since 1995. He served as a Non Executive Director of Royal Bank of Scotland Group plc from January 2001 to February 6, 2009.

Sutherland is - literally - like Lloyd Blankfein and Tony Hayward rolled into one. But unlike Blankfein and Hayward, he has also held numerous powerful governmental and quasi-governmental positions.

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Source (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/chairman-goldman-sachs-international-was-until-last-year-chairman-bp)

Gita
10th June 2010, 13:41
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BP is using highly toxic chemicals in the Gulf; Food Crops Threatened

As I’m sure many of you have, I’ve been following the situation in the gulf as closely as I can. There is no certainty on any one subject, due to the closely guarded cover-up by BP and the Feds. We do not know how much oil is leaking, how much has leaked, whether to trust the live feeds or not (still haven’t met anyone that didn’t claim to be looking at a looped feed), how much damage is now or will be done, etc, etc, etc.

There have been many theories fabricated as a result, as people try and come to terms with what’s going on. Some claim the entire spill is a hoax, a fake, being used as an excuse for a future relocation of the locals. Still others claim that the leak is entirely unstoppable, and that we’ve hit a virtual “oil volcano,” which may actually erupt as the leaking floor corrodes away, causing a collapse of the sea floor. The result of such an event would be a large, toxic oil tsunami.

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Continued here. (http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/09/food-crops-threatened-corrosion-occurring-on-many-plants-in-the-south-2/)

Bill Ryan
10th June 2010, 14:47
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Gulf oil spill 'may top 100,000 barrels a day'

(The Times, London)

http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7146713.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7146713.ece)


BP’s oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico may be up to four times the scale estimated by a government scientific panel, pumping out 100,000 barrels a day in what equates to the company’s “worst case scenario” and prompting new accusations that executives are stonewalling the truth.

Note this...


"BP’s “top kill” effort two weeks ago to stem the flow by firing mud and junk into the well appeared to have stepped up the rate of the leak, Dr Leifer said."

... which is consistent with Bob Cavnar's important and informed comment yesterday on MSNBC (MUST SEE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/37582386#37582386)) ... that "they experienced some kind of failure during the top kill operation".

illuminate
10th June 2010, 15:53
Oil shows up near Alabama beach resort town

(CNN) -- Oil from the massive spill in the Gulf has moved into the inland waterway along coastal Alabama, prompting the U.S. Coast Guard to close Perdido Pass, the main water access route for fishermen and boaters in the popular resort town of Orange Beach.

BP and the government have tried to protect the pass for weeks with thousands of feet of boom, but thick waves of oil have seeped into the pass and down the waterway, coating the marshy shoreline as it moves through.

People in the community are frustrated, watching the massive oil spill ruin, not only the once pristine beaches and turquoise water of the Gulf, but their livelihood, as well.

Chris Ybarra owns Cotton's Restaurant on Orange Beach Boulevard, the main drag through the seaside resort town that should be bustling with tourists and activities this time of year.

The beach is only about 200 yards from his building, but Ybarra said his business is dwindling.
"It's definitely on the decline. People are canceling their reservations and it's definitely beginning to hurt more than it did a month ago," he said.

Ybarra has been in business for 25 years, specializing in surf and turf, fresh seafood and steak. But that's a potential problem now that 33 percent of the Gulf in his neck of the woods is off-limits for fishing.

Ybarra said he's more fortunate than many of his neighbors, and he can easily diversify.
"If I have to go to selling freshwater catfish or primarily serving steaks or chickens, then that's something that I'm going to certainly look at to try and maintain the stability of my business," he said.

Ybarra says his friends, neighbors and fellow business owners have all faced adversity before, primarily from the devastation of hurricanes, but have always come out on top, always rebuilding and moving forward. However, he said the oil crisis is very different.

"The problem we're having with this is the uncertainty. It's very exasperating because it's like an emotional roller coaster," he said.

Ybarra said BP and the government don't seem to know how to respond to the ongoing disaster.

Entire story, pics and video here:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/10/alabama.oil.spill/index.html?eref=rss_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29

Peace of Mind
10th June 2010, 16:29
It seems like the government wants to demean honest efforts of independent citizens just to keep their own false reputation in tact. Maybe they don’t want an actor to take credit for what the administration was set up to do. Egotism seems to be playing a big part in the scheme of things….there’s no room for it and every possibility should be considered.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/09/2010-06-09_kevin_costner_talks_to_congress_about_his_oil_spill_cleanup_machine_he_wants.html

Peace

Gita
10th June 2010, 16:48
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BP oil spill: David Cameron backs Barack Obama's hardline stance
David Cameron has backed Barack Obama in his criticism of BP over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

The oil firm has seen almost £50 billion wiped off its value since oil began leaking from one of its pipelines following an explosion on a gas platform in the Gulf of Mexico.

Investors say the hardline approach taken by Mr Obama – who has promised to "kick ass" over the incident – has contributed to the share price declines. The US administration last night threatened to block BP paying a dividend in order to ensure victims of the spill off the coast of Louisiana got sufficient compensation.

The pension funds of millions of Britons have been hard hit – as exposure to BP, Britain's biggest company, is high.

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, this morning became the most senior UK politician to defend BP, saying "anti-British rhetoric" levelled at the company was a matter of "national concern" and that the oil giant was paying "a very, very heavy price" for what had been an accident.

"I would like to see a bit of cool heads rather than endlessly buck-passing and name-calling," he said. "When you consider the huge exposure of British pension funds to BP it starts to become a matter of national concern if a great British company is being continually beaten up on the airwaves."

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Continued here. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7817582/BP-oil-spill-David-Cameron-backs-Barack-Obamas-hardline-stance.html)

Gita
10th June 2010, 17:04
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Gulf of Mexico oil spill: timeline

The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that followed an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig is now considered the largest in US offshore history. Below is a chronology of the spill and its impact:

BP

April 20, 2010

An explosion on the Deepwater Horizon offshore oil drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, around 40 miles south east of Louisiana, kills 11 workers and injures 17 others.

The rig is owned and operated by Transocean, a company hired by BP to carry out the drilling work.

April 22

The US Coast Guard estimates that the rig is leaking oil at the rate of up to 8,000 barrels a day.

Two remotely operated underwater vehicles (ROVs) are sent down to attempt to cap the well, but prove unsuccessful.

Another two ROVs are dispatched in an attempt to activate the blowout preventer – a giant series of pipes and valves that could staunch the leak – but again prove unsuccessful.

April 27

BP reports that its first-quarter profits more than double to £3.65 billion following a rise in oil prices.

April 30

City analysts including Morgan Stanley predict that the disaster could cost BP between £1 billion and £3 billion as shrimpers in the state of Louisiana file the first class-action lawsuits against BP and the platform’s owners.

May 3

Work begins on a drilling a relief well to isolate the leak as Tony Hayward, BP’s chief executive, indicates that the firm will seek compensation from Transocean.

The slump in BP share prices reaches 15 per cent as some experts predict the total compensation and clean-up bill could be around £10.6 billion.

One of the biggest oil containment operations ever attempted begins, with a flotilla of nearly 200 boats sent to tackle the spill.

May 10

BP admits it has dramatically underestimated the cost of the leak and that it has already reached around £240 million.

May 12

James Dupree, BP's senior vice president for the Gulf, admits during congressional hearings in the US that a safety valve protecting the oil well failed a key pressure test just hours before the explosion.

May 17

Shares rise as BP says it is capturing about a fifth of the estimated oil gushing from the ruptured well by using a pipe to divert it from the sea bed onto a ship.

May 18

Mr Hayward claims the environmental impact of the spill will be "very, very modest". His reassurances coincide with the discovery of the first tar balls from the spill off Florida.

Experts begin to fear that currents could be directing a slick the size of Luxembourg towards US coastal areas.

The US government announces it is nearly tripling the size of an area in the Gulf of Mexico that is closed to fishing.

May 28

BP attempts a “top kill” operation to plug the spill. The company admits that the procedure has never before been attempted at such depths and its “ultimate success” is uncertain.

The total cost to the firm reaches around £638 million as Barack Obama states that BP would "pay every dime" for the damage caused and criticised the "cosy and sometimes corrupt" relationship between regulators and the oil industry.

June 1

BP shares tumble a further 15 per cent after it admits its “top kill” operation was unsuccessful. It emerges that the company has lost a quarter – £30 billion – of its market value since the explosion.

Meanwhile, documents emerge showing that the firm was given permission to drill in the Gulf of Mexico after promising it was equipped to deal with a spill 10 times larger than the current leak.

Eric Holder, the US Attorney General, announces he will visit the site of the spill for the first time on Tuesday, increasing speculation that a criminal investigation will be launched.

June 7

BP says a second containment system to stem the leak should be ready by "mid-June", as costs of the clean-up rise to £860 million and the total share-price slump reaches 30 per cent.

June 8

Norway bans new deepwater oil drilling in the North Sea in a sign that panic over BP's Gulf of Mexico spill is spreading.

Meanwhile the US President attacks Mr Hayward, saying he should have been sacked for tactless comments made after the spill.

June 9

BP buys the top Google and Yahoo! search result for terms like "oil spill" in a bid to recover its public image.

Obama is accused of holding "his boot on the throat" of British pensioners after his attacks on BP are blamed for wiping billions off the company's value.

The firm's share price falls a further 17.35p to 391.55p – representing a 40 per cent drop on the 655p price of a share two months ago.

June 10

The US government signals it will take legal action to force BP to stop paying a dividend to shareholders. The company's shares tumble.

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Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/epic/bpdot/7816715/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-timeline.html)

Gita
10th June 2010, 17:13
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BP oil spill: Washington issues 72-hour deadline for new plan to fight slick

Washington has raised the pressure on BP, setting a 72-hour deadline to present updated plans for battling the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.


Coast Guard Adm Thad Allen, who is leading the US government response to the disaster, met BP officials in Washington and ordered them to produce records of compensation claims filed in four affected southern US states.

"BP, as a responsible party, is accountable for making the communities, individuals and business impacted by this spill whole again," said Adm Allen.

"We need more detail and openness from BP to fulfill our oversight responsibilities to the American people and ensure that BP is meeting its commitment to restore the Gulf coast."

The stringent demands for greater transparency betrayed the growing mistrust between BP and President Barack Obama's administration more than seven weeks into the nation's worst ever environmental catastrophe.

Fuelled by round-the-clock media coverage of oiled birds and tides of toxic crude washing up on US shores, American public anger is growing and Mr Obama is under increasing pressure to hold BP accountable.

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Continued here. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7816253/BP-oil-spill-Washington-issues-72-hour-deadline-for-new-plan-to-fight-slick.html)

norman
10th June 2010, 20:15
I just posted this in another thread but i't real info so I'm putting it here too:


I've just been listening to what Pastor Lindsey Williams has told Alex Jones..... and it's horrific.

The true gush is 4 million gallons per day and the chemicals coming out with it are many many times greater than the safe limits for these toxic chemicals.

The probable reasons for such a big operation kicking off in the southern US are:

The very poisonous air.

The probable use of a nuclear device.

http://wikisend.com/download/155494/AlexJones_2010-06-10_Thu_(_Pastor Lindsey Williams Section _)-lowbit.mp3

Bomack
10th June 2010, 20:17
With crude gushing out and laying all over the Gulf, will someone please explain to me how safe this is? Maybe polluting our oceans isn't enough? Maybe now they want us to burn? Or at the very least pollute our atmosphere too!

Sorry folks, I'm pretty PO'd.

BP to Start Burning Captured Oil at Sea in Gulf of Mexico

http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/U.S./GulfOilSpill_061010_monster_397x224.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/10/oil-collected-gulf-floor-grows-does-frustration-bp-claims-process/

HORIZONS
10th June 2010, 21:53
an inside report
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-457639?hpt=Sbin

Bill Ryan
10th June 2010, 22:11
an inside report
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-457639?hpt=Sbin

Folks, you have to read this.

All Beast... No Beauty Grand Isle

CNN producer note

luvnola visited Grand Isle, Louisiana, yesterday and took photos of the scene there. She said she was frustrated and angry at the lack of workers on the beach and in the water cleaning up the oil. Romero lives in New Orleans, but has visited Grand Isle regularly. 'I cannot fathom the depth and breadth of the emotions these residents feel,' she wrote. 'I am still so angry today and they are there watching this every day.'
- katie, CNN iReport producer
I have been putting off uploading this iReport because I am so angry and have been since my visit to Grand Isle again yesterday. Where are the hundreds of BP workers that were flown in when the President made his flyover weeks ago? Haven’t been back... Since the spill I have been to Grand Isle five times and talked to a lot of the “locals” each time. I can’t begin to tell you how sickened these residents are. Both men and women, of all ages, got choked up when they spoke of what they see day after day. Here are a few of the things I saw on my trip.

CONTINUED HERE (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-457639?hpt=Sbin)

Fredkc
10th June 2010, 22:50
Picked this up off of CNN about 30 minutes ago.

Remember when it was 1,000 barrels/day?
5,000 bbl/day?
12,000 bbl/day? (this time for sure!)

Bear in mind that, while this was still BP's "working number" they proudly announced that the "cut & cap" pumping was now getting them 15,000 bbl/day
Well, announced about 30 min ago on CNN;
The new current estimate for flow before the cut is 20-40,000 bbl/day!
And this is a "before the cut" figure. (means add 20% minimum)

They are still working on a more accurate figure for after the cut, based upon the new "HD footage" the estimating team, only had access to 2 days ago.

To keep the figures consistent, something BP keeps changing a barrel is 44 gallons, so 40,000 bbl/day is, and means the true problem, growing in the gulf is:
1,760,000 gallons/day!
-660,000 pumped thru the cap (15,000 bbls) =
1,100,000 gallons/day!

Figures taken from the daily Wolf Blitzer "Situation Room" report.

"My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;
At least I'm sure it may be so in BP" - Shakespeare

Fred

norman
10th June 2010, 22:59
Lindsey Williams ( who talks to, at least one insider ) said tonight that it's 4 million gallons per day.

Fredkc
10th June 2010, 23:25
I just came back to add that,
All of this "estimating flow" is really such a farce.

They have what... 12 ROV's operating down there?
1. You stick a flow meter on the end of an ROV's arm,
2. You stick it in the stream for a second, or two.
3. You take the velocity (now a known), and the pipe dia. (21 inches) and you can calculate the flow in minutes.

Fred

bluestflame
11th June 2010, 02:25
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/

there's a section of oil related news and updates , some interesting stuff


Spill Threatens Indigenous Communities in Louisiana: Exxon Valdez activists share vast knowledge Pt 1/2

Rep. Markey: BP Can't be Trusted; MMS Must Become a Watchdog, Not a Lapdog

Firedoglake.com's Jane Hamsher: BP Oil Disaster is About to Turn in to a Health Crisis

Planet 100: BP's Ad Campaign Backfires

'The A-Team' Spill on the Oil Spill

AP Exclusive: Scuba Diving in the Gulf Oil Spill

Congressman Nadler Grills BP over Use of Toxic Dispersant and BP's Corporate Relationship to Manufacturer.

Mike Papantonio: Can we trust Attorney General Eric Holder who worked at one of the biggest corporate defense

just some of the interviews listed

Shaun~☼~

Gita
11th June 2010, 07:57
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U.S. doubles upper estimate for BP oil leak

HOUSTON (Reuters) - U.S. scientists on Thursday doubled their high-end estimate of the amount of crude oil flowing from BP Plc's stricken Gulf of Mexico well.

They said between 20,000 and 40,000 barrels (840,000 and 1.7 million gallons/3.2 million and 6.4 million liters) of oil flowed from the well before June 3, when BP's remotely operated robots sawed through an underwater pipe to clear the way for a capping procedure.

The cutting of the pipe likely increased the flow, but BP says it has collected 73,324 barrels (3.1 million gallons/11,7 million liters) of oil since installing the capping system.

Even at the minimum estimated rate of 20,000 bpd, the well has dumped just over a million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20 -- more than four times the amount that the Exxon Valdez spilled into Prince William Sound in Alaska in 1989.

The new estimates were made by the so-called Flow Rate Technical Group and announced by U.S. Geological Survey Director Marcia McNutt. BP had no input into the team's findings.

The well's average daily rate was 25,000-30,000 barrels, according to the group's findings.

The new figures are considerably higher than the prior "best estimate" of 12,000-19,000 bpd issued by the flow rate group on May 27.

Estimates have steadily climbed from the 5,000 bpd level initially cited by U.S. and BP officials, though BP had said that such estimates were unreliable.

One estimate, by researchers at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, would imply a flow rate of 50,000 bpd, McNutt said.

"You probably get to about 50,000 if you make some assumptions that they weren't quite willing to make," McNutt said.

The wide variation in the figures points to the difficulty in estimating flow of a well that is 1 mile beneath the surface and reachable only by remotely operated robots.

McNutt admitted the estimate was "still a work in progress" and that the numbers were "all over the board."

"There is a significant difference between the lowest possible estimate and the highest possible estimate," which the team will try to resolve in future studies, McNutt said.

Scientists have not estimated the flow since BP sawed through the riser pipe a week ago. U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar told a congressional panel on Wednesday that the cut may have increased the rate by 4 to 5 percent.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 08:00
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A WORD ABOUT ABIOTIC OIL

There is some speculation that oil is abiotic in origin -- generally asserting that oil is formed from magma instead of an organic origin. These ideas are really groundless. All unrefined oil carries microscopic evidence of the organisms from which it was formed. These organisms can be traced through the fossil record to specific time periods when quantities of oil were formed.

Likewise, there are two primal energy forces operating on this planet, and all forms of energy descend from one of these two. The first is the internal form of energy heating the Earth's interior. This primal energy comes from radioactive decay and from the heat energy originally generated during accretion of the planet some 4.6 billion years ago. There are no known mechanisms for transferring this internal energy into any secondary energy source. And the chemistry of magma does not compare to the chemistry of hydrocarbons. Magma is lacking in carbon compounds, and hydrocarbons are lacking in silicates. If hydrocarbons were generated from magma, then you would expect to see some closer kinship in their chemistry.

The second primal energy source is light and heat generated by our sun. It is the sun's energy that powers all energy processes on the Earth's surface, and which provides the very energy for life itself. Photosynthesis is the miraculous process by which the sun's energy is converted into forms available to the life processes of living matter. Following biological, geological and chemical processes, a line can be drawn from photosynthesis to the formation of hydrocarbon deposits. Likewise, both living matter and hydrocarbons are carbon based.

Finally, because oil generation is in part a geological process, it proceeds at an extremely slow rate from our human perspective. Geological processes take place over a different frame of time than human events. It is for this reason that when geologists say that the San Andreas fault is due for a powerful earthquake, they mean any time in the next million years -- probably less. Geological processes move exceedingly slow.

After organic matter has accumulated on the sea floor, it must be buried by the process of deposition. In geological time, in order for this matter to be a likely prospect for hydrocarbon generation, the rate of deposition must be quick. Here is an experiment you can conduct to get an idea how slow the rates of deposition are. Place a small stone on the bottom of a motionless pond. Take another stone of about the same size and place it at the mouth of a small stream, a stream where the current is not so great that it will sweep the stone away. Check both of these stones yearly until they have been buried by deposition. You might see the stone at the mouth of the stream covered over within a few years, but it is unlikely that you will see the stone in the pond buried within your lifetime.
It is a simple geological fact that the oil we are using up at an alarming rate today will not be replaced within our lifetime -- or within many lifetimes. That is why hydrocarbons are called non-renewable resources. Capped wells may appear to refill after a few years, but they are not regenerating. It is simply an effect of oil slowly migrating through pore spaces from areas of high pressure to the low-pressure area of the drill hole. If this oil is drawn out, it will take even longer for the hole to refill again. Oil is a non-renewable resource generated and deposited under special biological and geological conditions.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 08:04
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Scientist Awed by Size, Density of Undersea Oil Plume in Gulf

Vast underwater concentrations of oil sprawling for miles in the Gulf of Mexico from the damaged, crude-belching BP PLC well are unprecedented in "human history" and threaten to wreak havoc on marine life, a team of scientists said today, a finding confirmed for the first time by federal officials.

Researchers aboard the F.G. Walton Smith vessel briefed reporters on a two-week cruise in which they traced an underwater oil plum 15 miles wide, 3 miles long and about 600 feet thick. The plume's core is 1,100 to 1,300 meters below the surface, they said.

"It's an infusion of oil and gas unlike anything else that has ever been seen anywhere, certainly in human history," said Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia, the expedition leader.
Bacteria are breaking down the oil's hydrocarbons in a massive, microorganism feeding frenzy that has sent oxygen levels plunging close to what is considered "dead zone" conditions, at which most marine life are smothered for a lack of dissolved oxygen.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 08:07
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Why Did The U.S. Refuse International Help on The Gulf Oil Spill?


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Despite the vow by President Obama to keep the Gulf oil spill a top priority until the damage is cleaned up, 50 days after the BP rig exploded, a definitive date and meaningful solution is yet to be determined for the worst oil spill in the U.S. history.

So, you would think if someone is willing to handle the clean-up with equipment and technology not available in the U.S., and finishes the job in shorter time than the current estimate, the U.S. should jump on the offer.

But it turned out to be quite the opposite. .

U.S. Refused Help on Oil Spill

According to Foreign Policy, thirteen entities had offered the U.S. oil spill assistance within about two weeks of the Horizon rig explosion. They were the governments of Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United Nations.

The U.S. response - Thank you, but no thank you, we've got it.

"..While there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet, the U.S. Coast Guard is assessing these offers of assistance to see if there will be something which we will need in the near future."

Blame It On The Jones Act?

Separately, Belgian newspaper De Standaard also reported Belgian and Dutch dredgers have technology in-house to fight the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, butthe Jones Act forbids them to work in the U.S.

A Belgian group--DEME-- contends it can clean up the oil in three to four months with specialty vessel and equipment, rather than an estimated nine months if done only by the U.S. The article noted there are no more than 5 or 6 of those ships in the world and the top specialist players are the two Belgian companies- DEME and De Nul - and their Dutch competitors.

The U.S. does not have the similar technology and vessel to accomplish the cleanup task because those ships would cost twice as much to build in the U.S. than in the Far East. The article further criticizes this "great technological delay" is a direct consequence of the Jones Act.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 08:14
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Pelosi says BP lacks integrity

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has strongly criticized BP over the Gulf of Mexico oil leak which has turned into the biggest environmental disaster in the US history.

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"It is clear that there was a lack of integrity on the part of BP," Pelosi told reporters in the White House driveway upon emerging from a congressional leaders meeting with President Obama on Thursday.

Pelosi questioned BP's authenticity about "the adequacy of their technology, the sufficiency of blowout prevention and the capacity to clean up."

Pelosi has also called for a suspension of BP's dividend to ensure that compensation is paid to oil spill victims. BP has come under fire by US officials for failing to cap ruptured under water well since April 20.

The BP oil leak started following an explosion at the BP-leased Deepwater Horizon oil rig which left 11 people dead on April 20.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 08:19
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Toxic Corexit dispersant chemicals remained secret as feds colluded with Big Business

After weeks of silence on the issue, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) finally decided to go public with the list of ingredients used to manufacture Corexit, the chemical dispersant used by BP in the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster. There are two things about this announcement that deserve our attention: First, the ingredients that have been disclosed are extremely toxic, and second, why did the EPA protect the oil industry's "trade secrets" for so long by refusing to disclose these ingredients until now?

As reported in the New York Times, Brian Turnbaugh, a policy analyst at OMB Watch said, "EPA had the authority to act all along; its decision to now disclose the ingredients demonstrates this. Yet it took a public outcry and weeks of complaints for the agency to act and place the public's interest ahead of corporate interests."

On the toxicity question, you could hardly find a more dangerous combination of poisons to dump into the Gulf of Mexico than what has been revealed in Corexit. The Corexit 9527 product has been designated a "chronic and acute health hazard" by the EPA. It is made with 2-butoxyethanol, a highly toxic chemical that has long been linked to the health problems of cleanup crews who worked on the Exxon Valdez spill.

A newer Corexit recipe dubbed the "9500 formula" contains dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate, a detergent chemical that's also found in laxatives. What do you suppose happens to the marine ecosystem when fish and sea turtles ingest this chemical through their gills and skin? And just as importantly, what do you think happens to the human beings who are working around this chemical, breathing in its fumes and touching it with their skin?

The answers are currently unknown, which is exactly why it is so inexcusable that Nalco and the oil industry giants would for so long refuse to disclose the chemical ingredients they're dumping into the Gulf of Mexico in huge quantities (over a million gallons dumped into the ocean to date).

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Gita
11th June 2010, 09:08
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Vatican Official Tied To BP, Goldman Sachs
And Media Censorship In The Oil Fiasco...
Increasing Evidence Of Foul Play

By Sherri Kane and Leonard G. Horowitz
6-10-10

News unfolding from the oil crisis in the Gulf of Mexico has linked media censorship to investment bankers at Goldman Sachs (GS) stewarding the Vatican's wealth, and increasing evidence that the explosion was intended.

A near total news blackout from independent sources, and arrests of anyone caught photographing and filming the devastation, show the Halliburton-British Petrolium (BP) oil crisis is being criminally controlled, implicating some of Wall Street's heaviest hitters.

According to a report issued by frightened, yet faithful, documentary filmmaker, James Fox, interviewed from the Gulf's Grand Isles by Mel Fabregas on the Internet's Veritas Radio Show, "There is a complete media blackout" on news coverage broadcast from the region.

"They are arresting people with cameras and anyone off camera that is caught talking to a reporter," Fox testified.

Another reporter told Fox,"You call this a free country? Right here, in the United States of America, there's no freedom of press. There's no freedom of speech. They're closing down the airspace above the oil spill, so reporter's can't fly over to determine how bad these oil plumes really are."

Suspicious pieces of this deadly puzzle feature Halliburton, the world's second largest oil field services company, headquartered in Houston and Dubai, whose negligence is blamed for the timely and profitable explosion.

Three weeks before the "natural gas leak," the George Bush/Dick Cheney 9-11-linked Halliburton company negotiated the purchase of the world's largest oil-spill cleanup firm (Boots & Coots) at the exact time keen observers on Wall Street--financial intelligence agents at Goldman Sachs (GS; often called "Government Sachs")--unloaded 44% of their stock in BP.

These facts parallel the shorting of airline stocks by those in the know prior to the World Trade Center (WTC) 9-11 attacks that new scientific evidence proves were followed by building demolitions, given the red thermite incendiary powder found everywhere around ground zero.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 10:15
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U.S. launches criminal probe of BP spill
Oil found along Miss., Ala. shorelines; fishing ban widened

NEW ORLEANS - Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that federal authorities have opened criminal and civil investigations into the Deepwater Horizon explosion and oil spill.

Holder would not specify which companies or individuals might be the targets of the probe, saying he did not "want to cast aspersions" while investigators come to their conclusions.

He said federal clean air and pollution laws give him the power to open the investigations, which he added had been going on for "some weeks."

Federal agencies, including the FBI, are participating in the probe and "if we find evidence of illegal behavior, we will be forceful in our response," Holder told reporters after meeting with state and federal prosecutors in New Orleans.

The Justice Department has already demanded that the companies involved in the spill, including BP, Transocean Ltd. and Halliburton Co., preserve records related to the accident.

The Coast Guard, for its part, said Tuesday that oil was reported reaching Mississippi and Alabama shorelines. That came after officials widened the region under surveillance to include those states and expanded the no-fishing area to include parts of Florida and Alabama.

Confirmation of the oil came soon after Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen told journalists of the reports.

Red-brown oil was found on Alabama's Dauphin Island on Tuesday, and local officials closed fishing and posted signs warning against swimming as a precaution.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 10:20
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Gulf oil spill: 'Everybody's lost hope'

NEW ORLEANS — Anger and frustration surged across the Gulf Coast on Monday as residents learned that the latest attempt to cap a renegade underwater well had failed and that oil may keep gushing into the Gulf of Mexico until at least August, when relief wells are scheduled to be finished.

As they entered the 42nd day of the crisis Monday, officials with oil company BP said that over the weekend they had abandoned the so-called "top kill" maneuver to jam drilling mud into the well to stop its flow and were trying a new technique.

"Everybody's lost hope," said councilman Jay LaFont of Grand Isle, La., where beaches and its fishing industry were closed because of the spill. "As long as you have something to look forward to, a little glimmer of hope, you can move on. But this just drained everything out of us."

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Gita
11th June 2010, 10:38
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30 Shocking Quotes About The Gulf Of Mexico Oil Spill That Reveal The Soul-Crushing Horror This Disaster Is Causing

It is incredibly hard to put into words the absolute horror that is happening in the Gulf of Mexico right now. The millions of gallons of oil that have gushed into the Gulf of Mexico and BP's efforts to fight the massive leak are turning the Gulf into a lifeless toxic stew of oil and chemicals. The damage caused to wildlife in the Gulf by this spill will be incalculable. Entire species are at risk of being wiped out. Scientists are telling us that the primary dispersant being used by BP ruptures red blood cells and causes fish to bleed. This is by far the greatest environmental disaster in U.S. history, and there is no end in sight. It is a worse environmental and economic disaster than all of the hurricanes of the past ten years combined. The great wetlands and beaches along the Gulf of Mexico will never be the same in our lifetimes. The seafood and tourism industries in the Gulf are being completely destroyed. The thousands of jobs and businesses being wiped out by this disaster could potentially throw the entire Gulf coast region into a depression. The damage already caused by this oil spill is beyond measure and yet the government tells us that up to 19,000 barrels (798,000 gallons) of oil a day continue to flow into the Gulf of Mexico.

Federal officials have expanded the "no fishing" area in the Gulf of Mexico to 75,920 square miles. That is 31 percent of all federal waters in the Gulf. As the oil continues to spread out there may soon be nowhere to fish.

And the oil is starting to come ashore in more places. Red-brown oil was found on Alabama's Dauphin Island (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-05-31-gulf-oil-spill_N.htm?csp=hf) on Tuesday. As Gulf coast residents slowly watch this oil destroy everything around them they are starting to realize that this is it.

Life along the Gulf of Mexico will simply never be the same again.

The following are 30 shocking quotes about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill that reveal the soul-crushing horror this disaster is causing....

#1) Councilman Jay LaFont (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-05-31-gulf-oil-spill_N.htm?csp=hf) of Grand Isle, Louisiana:

"As long as you have something to look forward to, a little glimmer of hope, you can move on. But this just drained everything out of us."

#2) Billy Nungesser (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7131555.ece), president of Plaquemines Parish:

"They said the black oil wouldn’t come ashore. Well, it is ashore. It’s here to stay and it’s going to keep coming."

#3) Prosanta Chakrabarty (http://www.kcci.com/news/23742747/detail.html), a Louisiana State University fish biologist:

"Every fish and invertebrate contacting the oil is probably dying. I have no doubt about that."

#4) Marine toxicologist Dr. Susan Shaw (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oil-spill-creates-huge-undersea-dead-zones-1987039.html), director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute on BP's use of chemical dispersants:

"They've been used at such a high volume that it's unprecedented. The worst of these – Corexit 9527 – is the one they've been using most. That ruptures red blood cells and causes fish to bleed. With 800,000 gallons of this, we can only imagine the death that will be caused."

#5) Dr. Larry McKinney, director of the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies in Texas:

"Bluefin tuna spawn just south of the oil spill and they spawn only in the Gulf. If they were to go through the area at a critical time, that's one instance where a plume could destroy a whole species."

#6) Carol Browner (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/31/2913347.htm), Barack Obama's adviser on energy and climate:

"This is probably the biggest environmental disaster we have ever faced in this country. It is certainly the biggest oil spill and we are responding with the biggest environmental response."

#7) Richard Charter of the Defenders of Wildlife: (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/03/oil.spill.environmental.impacts/index.html?hpt=T2)

"It is so big and expanding so fast that it's pretty much beyond human response that can be effective. ... You're looking at a long-term poisoning of the area. Ultimately, this will have a multidecade impact."

#8) Reverand Mike Tran: (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/30/95074/everything-we-came-to-grand-isle.html)

"We don't know when this will ever be over. It's a way of life that's under assault, and people don't when their next paycheck is going to be."

#9) Louis Miller of the Mississippi Sierra Club: (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126453385)

"This is going to destroy the Mississippi and the Gulf Coast as we know it."

#10) Dean Blanchard (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/3757026/), Oil-leak-an-environmental-crime owner of a seafood business:

"I hold Obama responsible for not making BP stand up and look at the people in the face and fix it."

#11) Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal:

"The day that we’ve been fearing is upon us."

#12) Billy Nungesser (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/01/federal-government-opens-criminal-investigation-gulf-oil-spill/), president of Plaquemines Parish, about BP CEO Tony Hayward:

"We ought to take him offshore and dunk him 10 feet underwater and pull him up and ask him 'What's that all over your face?"

#13) Former Clinton adviser James Carville: (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/31/2913347.htm)

"The country feels like it's entitled to abuse this state and forget about us, and we are sick of it."

#14) An anonymous Louisiana resident: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7660183/Louisiana-oil-slick-Gulf-coast-residents-fear-damage-worse-than-Katrina.html)
"A hurricane is like closing your bank account for a few days, but this here has the capacity to destroy our bank accounts."

#15) U.S. Representative Edward Markey: (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/stopping-oil-leak-bp-faces-credibility-crisis/story?id=10785372&page=1)

"I have no confidence whatsoever in BP . I think that they do not know what they are doing."

#16) Gulf coast resident Marie Michel: (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/30/95074/everything-we-came-to-grand-isle.html)

"Immediately, it's no more fishing, no more crabbing, no more swimming, no more walking on the beach."

#17) Brenda Prosser (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1272637/Gulf-Mexico-oil-spill-absorbed-using-stockings-stuffed-HUMAN-HAIR.html) of Mobile, Alabama:

"I just started crying. I couldn't quit crying. I'm shaking now. To know that our beach may be black or brown, or that we can't get in the water, it's so sad."

#18) Qin Chen (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0601/), BP-oil-spill-could-make-Gulf-hurricane-season-devastating an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge on the possibility that a hurricane could push massive amounts of oil ashore along the Gulf:

"A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico this year would be devastating."

#19) Retired Army General Russel Honore (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/31/louisiana.oil.frustration/index.html?hpt=C1) on the effect this spill is having on residents of the Gulf coast:

"I'm sure, every time they hear a negative word, their skin crawls, 'cause they need these jobs. ... This is what's going to put their kids in school, and what pays the rent."

#20) A group calling itself "Seize BP": (http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/energy/story.html?id=3091042)

"The greatest environmental disaster with no end in sight! Eleven workers dead. Millions of gallons of oil gushing for months (and possibly years) to come. Jobs vanishing. Creatures dying. A pristine environment destroyed for generations. A mega-corporation that has lied and continues to lie, and a government that refuses to protect the people."

#21) Louisiania Governor Bobby Jindal: (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/stopping-oil-leak-bp-faces-credibility-crisis/story?id=10785372&page=2)

"There has been failure, particularly with the effort to protect our coast and our marsh. And that was the biggest topic of discussion in a very frank meeting we had with the president."

#22) BP’s chief operating officer, Doug Suttles: (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7140775.ece)

"This scares everybody — the fact that we can’t make this well stop flowing, the fact that we haven’t succeeded so far."

#23) Doug Rader (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/7028774.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+houstonchronicle%2Ftopheadlines+%28chron.com+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Reader), chief ocean scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund:

"You simply cannot make more (reefs), unless you have a few thousand years to wait."

#24) Public Service Commissioner Benjamin Stevens: (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/05/1616144/top-us-officials-to-review-gulf.html)

"You get hit by a hurricane and you can rebuild. But when that stuff washes up on the white sands of Pensacola Beach, you can't just go and get more white sand.''

#25) Wilma Subra (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/28/bp-gulf-oil-spill-pollution), a chemist who has served as a consultant to the Environmental Protection Agency:

"Every time the wind blows from the south-east to the shore, people are being made sick."

#26) Hotel Owner Dodie Vegas: (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-05-06-oil-containment-box_N.htm)

"It's just going to kill us. It's going to destroy us."

#27) Louisiana resident Sean Lanier: (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/31/louisiana.oil.frustration/index.html?hpt=C1)

"Until they stop this leak, it's just like getting stabbed and the knife's still in you, and they're moving it around."

#28) White House energy adviser Carol Browner: (http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/energy/story.html?id=3091042)

"There could be oil coming up until August."

#29) Marine toxicologist Dr. Susan Shaw (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oil-spill-creates-huge-undersea-dead-zones-1987039.html), director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute:

"We'll see dead bodies soon. Sharks, dolphins, sea turtles, whales: the impact on predators will be seen in a short time because the food web will be impacted from the bottom up."

#30) Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser: (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-05-31-gulf-oil-spill_N.htm?csp=hf)

"We will die a slow death over the next two years as this oil creeps ashore."

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Gita
11th June 2010, 11:47
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Corexit Linked to the Blackstone Group & Lord Jacob Rothschild

Regardless of whether the Deepwater Horizon Disaster is an accident or a False Flag Event, the inescapable truth is that the United States is faced with a disaster of unprecedented proportions. The quantity of oil being released into the Gulf of Mexico is uncertain, although it is safe to say that it is in the millions of gallons and covers thousands of square miles.

The purpose of this article is to inform, educate and warn the reader of what is probably about to take place, and what steps might be taken to deal with this emergency as it may develop over the next few weeks and months.

The statements within this article are factual, but by no means complete, and there will be updates when possible. One thing is for certain, the Gulf of Mexico region now contains millions of gallons of oil that IS going to spread to other parts of the Gulf of Mexico as well as along the East Coast of the United States.

Computer animation models created by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), which at the time of this article is off-line, predicts probable flow paths; scenarios of the oil dispersal in the region.

A shocking discovery reveals that the dispersant COREXIT is a product of Nalco Holding Company which in turn is owned by The Blackstone Group, who has as a member of its International Advisory Board, Lord Jacob Rothschild – so much for conspiracy theories. An excerpt from The Blackstone Group site:

Lord Jacob Rothschild is a Member of the International Advisory Board.


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Gita
11th June 2010, 11:57
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Overwatch Report: June 10, 2010

Report #1 – It appears there has been a military build up that is out of the ordinary according to our source. These pictures were sent to our Overwatch Program, From one of FYO1’s contacts. They were taken at 15:00 PST today at the 32nd St. base in San Diego, CA. The contact said that five U.S. Coast Guard war ships equipped with SAM’s, 30mm AA gatling guns, and 5″ Sea-Wiz guns pulled into port.

A-10 Warthogs “Fully Armed” were flying in, which is against the Posse Comitatus Act and out of the ordinary.

Not to mention the five flatbed rigs that showed up with Up-Armored HUMVEE’s (UAH) three of which were fully outfitted. The pictures provided are the actual pictures from the scene. The contact was even chased inside the base and managed to flee the area evading detention.

Report #2 – Two Chinooks “Black” over Toledo Ohio.

Report #3 – New York, upstate “Fully Armed” Blackhawk flying very fast 500′

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JoshERTW
11th June 2010, 14:31
BP Now has an online form for submission of Alternative Technological Solution Idea's for the Spill:

http://www.horizonedocs.com/artform.php

astrid
11th June 2010, 15:06
This just came in ...

http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/11/quayle-extreme-alert-gulf/


From Steve Quayle.....

"The operational name for the Gulf Coast Evacuation is “Swift Fox”. Yesterday morning at around 8:30 Mountain time, I received information that specific towns, in Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and Georgia were having hotel rooms rented in mass by different named “Societies” using Federal government credit cards. The block hotel room rentals are for half the available rooms in hotels with a minimum of 120 rooms. Specific conversations were “overheard” that would indicate that the planned Gulf Coast evacuation is soon to be implemented. The only scenario I hear that may force the government to evacuate the coast is a multiple plume situation. Apparently, the unmitigated oil spilling has caused a pressure flux which, ironically, has caused a spider web network of Gulf seabed fissures, which has caused at least one other confirmed oil plume. NOAA is searching for two more suspected ones”. This quote is from an insider who is really concerned as he should be. Here’s additional info he provided. His comments in the following quote: “I know FEMA has already scoped out FEMA camp locations, i.e. vacant lots and swaths of land that can be leased temporarily in Texas and Georgia”. "

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peace ,

Astrid

Gita
11th June 2010, 15:50
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BP warned of rig fault ten years ago

BP faces fresh questions over the cause of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill after it emerged that problems with the type of equipment that led to the disaster were first reported a decade ago.

In June 2000, the oil giant issued a "notice of default" to Transocean, the operator of the rig that blew up last month. The dispute was over problems with a blowout preventer, a set of iron slabs that should close out-of-control wells. It failed on the Gulf of Mexico rig, triggering the explosion and oil spill.

Transocean acknowledged at the time that the preventer did "not work exactly right". The rig in question, the Discover Enterprise, was unable to operate for extended periods while the problem was fixed.

The preventer was made by Hydril, now owned by GE's oil and gas arm, and Cameron International, a Houston company. Cameron also made the preventer on the Deepwater Horizon, the rig that exploded. Its preventer was fitted at about the same time BP was complaining of problems with its sister vessel.

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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article7114087.ece

Gita
11th June 2010, 15:57
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Obama to Reopen Oil Drilling
New Rules on Shallow-Water Exploration Expected as Economic Woes Mount

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration, facing rising anger on the Gulf Coast over the loss of jobs and income from a drilling moratorium, said Monday that it would move quickly to release new safety requirements that would allow the reopening of offshore oil and gas exploration in shallow waters.

Gulf Coast residents, political leaders and industry officials said delays in releasing the new rules, along with the administration's six-month halt on deepwater drilling—both issued amid public pressure—threatened thousands of jobs.

Well-owner BP PLC, meanwhile, faces penalties "in the many billions of dollars," for the Deepwater Horizon drilling disaster that has been spewing an estimated minimum 12,000 to 19,000 barrels of oil a day into the Gulf, said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs. The costs of the spill will "greatly exceed" the amount BP could recoup by selling any of the captured oil on the market, he said Monday.

Retired U.S. Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, who heads the federal response, said BP's latest emergency containment system is on track to capture as much as 15,000 barrels of oil per day, which is the maximum amount of oil the drill ship on the surface can process. BP's latest update on the rate of recovery late Monday implies that the containment procedure is approaching that limit. Any leakage beyond 15,000 barrels per day will continue to go into the sea until a second ship arrives, likely in mid-June.

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Gita
11th June 2010, 17:32
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National Guard involved in the effort to evacuate and provide security for the Gulf

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, April 30, 2010) — At least three states along the Gulf of Mexico are preparing for a potential call for thousands of National Guard members as the nation ramps up its response to the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill today.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal sent letters to federal officials asking them to approve funding to activate up to 6,000 Guardmembers to assist in the response to the oil spill.

In two letters addressed to Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates and Janet Napolitano, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Jindal said the Guard “will provide security, medical capabilities, engineers and communication support in response to this threat.”

“Currently, our Soldiers and Airmen are staging for and are engaged in the planning of the effort to evacuate and provide security and clean up for the coastal communities expected to be impacted by the oil spill,” Jindal wrote.

“They are engaged in the protection of vital infrastructure to include medical facilities, fuel distribution, interstate highways, water-ice distribution and power facilities, which are all vital to the recovery of coastal Louisiana.”

Jindal went on to say that he “believe[s] these National Guard operations are necessary and appropriate to protect this region of our nation from a significant national event with potential catastrophic loss of natural resources.”

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Continued here. (http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/10/april-30th-national-guard-involved-in-the-effort-to-evacuate-and-provide-security-is-for-gulf/)

Gita
11th June 2010, 22:17
Potential field evidence for a volcanic rifted margin along the Texas Gulf Coast

http://www.utdallas.edu/~rjstern/pdfs/MickusGeology09.pdf

Gita
11th June 2010, 22:21
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Oil Spill Row: PM Says BP Must Remain Stable

David Cameron has told BP's chairman he is "frustrated and concerned" about the Gulf oil spill, but said it is "in everyone's interests" for BP to remain "financially strong and stable".

His conversation with Carl-Henric Svanberg comes as the Prime Minister is facing calls to challenge Barack Obama over his comments on BP which have been described as "anti-British".
Mr Cameron is due to speak to Mr Obama by telephone on Saturday at 4pm UK time.

Speaking about Mr Cameron and Mr Svanberg's discussion, a Downing Street spokesman said the Prime Minister "made clear his view that BP is an economically important company in the UK, US and other countries".

He added: "Mr Svanberg made clear that BP will continue to do all that it can to stop the oil spill, clean up the damage and meet all legitimate claims for compensation.
"The Prime Minister said that he would raise the issue - and discuss these points - in his call with President Obama tomorrow."

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Gita
11th June 2010, 22:25
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UK media attack Obama for comments about BP

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WORLD/europe/06/11/uk.media.gulf.oil/t1larg.jpg

(CNN) -- British media have leapt to the defense of beleaguered BP following attacks by the White House over its handling of the Gulf Coast disaster.
President Barack Obama has taken a tough stance against the company and its response to the April 20 explosion, which killed 11 workers and has spilled millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf, threatening livelihoods and wildlife.

But now UK opinion formers have weighed in, attacking Obama's approach, warning of the threat to pension funds and questioning relations with the United States.

Cameron is told to "stand up for your country" by the Daily Mail, which backed the Conservative leader at last month's UK election. It points out while "British marines continue to die in Afghanistan -- fighting valiantly alongside their American colleagues," relations between the respective leaders means the phrase "special relationship" sounds increasingly hollow.

In a leader column the newspaper says Obama's attacks are "rank hypocrisy," coming only weeks after the president advocated deepwater drilling. Elsewhere it highlights oil disasters off the UK coast involving U.S. companies, including the Piper Alpha oil rig explosion of 1988, in which 167 people died.

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Bill Ryan
12th June 2010, 02:37
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New Project Avalon update (11 June):

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/whats_new.html

Lindsey Williams made a strong appearance on Alex Jones last night - confirming all the information reported in my 9 June report two days ago. Click here for a 56 minute edited version of his interview (http://projectavalon.net/Lindsey_Williams_10_June_2010_Alex_Jones_extract.mp3). (The original is here (http://prisonplanet.com/the-alex-jones-show-video-audio-archive-june-10th-with-lindsey-williams.html): the interview with Lindsey starts at the beginning of hour three.)

Lindsey put numbers to the pressures in the reservoir, which his own sources feared were beyond the ability of any current human technology to control. The pressures at Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, were a healthy 1,500 psi (pounds per square inch). The pressures breaking loose in the Gulf of Mexico are 20,000 to 70,000 psi.

I'll say that again: twenty thousand to seventy thousand pounds per square inch. Now I can understand why the mathematical modeling has failed [see 9 June update].

Besides confirming the almost unstoppable pressures in the reservoir, Lindsey stated the following:



-- The well casing is almost certainly fractured.
-- There are plumes of oil rising from the sea bed many miles from the blown out well.
-- The volume of leakage is in excess of 100,000 barrels (4 million gallons) a day.
-- There are volatile organic compounds (hydrogen sulfide, benzene and methylene chloride) being released in quantities many hundreds times the levels accepted as safe. In the case of benzene, which is a highly toxic carcinogen, safe levels are considered to be 0-4 ppb (parts per billion). The levels being released have been measured by the EPA at over 3,000 ppb (http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/elevated-levels-of-benzene-hydrogen-sulfide-methylene-chloride-in-gulf-air/).
-- A nuclear device is being considered to seal the well... but the consequences of failure could be truly catastrophic.
-- The blowout was a genuine accident.
-- Various insiders and insider groups had learned - through occult means - that they should sell their BP shares... although they did not know specifically that the blowout would occur.
-- Although the blowout was unplanned, the Controllers lost no time in determining to use the accident to further their own agendas.

It is my personal opinion that we have here the most serious problem on the planet short of nuclear war.

JoshERTW
12th June 2010, 03:17
Bill -

For the oil to be sitting on top of the pipe - at steady state, held in by the pressure of the water, just a meniscus pushing above, the pressure inside the pipe would need to be at least 2800 ish PSI (I made a previous post on this) - This is pretty massive by my measure as a civil engineer - your average domestic water system for a smallish town (5-15,000 population) is about 75 PSI.

20,000 is unheard of, 70,000 boggles my mind. I clock the flow rate at 176 L/s or so (based on some estimates of 95,000 barrels a day). This is hardly enough additional flow above "steady state" to acount for these pressures - to compare a 100 or so car sized parking lot could produce this type of flow in a rainstorm in a 1 in 2 or 5 year rain storm.

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong equations here (which I won't deny is possible) but something is not right here.

Edit:

This being said I completely agree with your statement that this problem is obscenely serious - and my "basic" calculations certainly do not take into account the possibility of fissures in the seabed which could release substatially higher flows (but over time would reduce the pressures)

Edit 2:

My previous analysis lacks some key points - the recieveing fluid is water, the discharging fluid is oil, each has a different specific gravity and specific enthalpy, at these massive undersea pressures (and therfore temperatures - also neglected from my analysis) their behaviour will also be different...

Even with this being said - I fail to see how the pressures could be 20K PSI - unless a) the Flowrate being told to us even by "alternative" scientists is significantly underestimated (by a lot) or b) this well is huuuuuugely deep and its own gravity (depth) is increasing the head pressure on it by a significant amount (10x the depth to the sea floor at least - or some combination of additional flow [fissures in sea floor?] and depth)

Really finding myself wishing I hadn't left my fluid mechanics book at the office this weekend... all I have is my water resource book to go by :)

JoshERTW
12th June 2010, 03:43
Gita -

I think your article about the American vs. UK leaders is an important one - theres almost too much to follow (and as I've said before - you are doing a bloody incredible job) and this one jumped out at me bigtime.

To go out on a limb here - the new UK leader is on record as "pro disclosure"

We used to think Obama was - but there wasn't any published news before he got elected to that effect...

Maybe Mr. Wilcock and many others discussing this issue are right and this will be a turning point in the disclosure battle.

That said, I doubt the PTB like this (from my understanding at least) "Unknown" coalition bloke getting into the top spot in the British parliament. In Canada the whole coalition thing is massively taboo (though I read a commendation from our PM - Uber Right wing - of how the Brit's did it this time around)

Maybe they are trying to pressure him into something he wouldn't want to do...

MargueriteBee
12th June 2010, 05:32
I've just got a distinct feeling that this is payback for the war in the middle east. I hope I'm wrong.

Gita
12th June 2010, 10:10
Thanks Josh and I am in agreement with your comments. :wink:

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Birds Flocking North By The Thousands

In a farmers field in Tennessee, birds arrive by the thousands. Gathering to woodland areas and power lines. This behavior is not typical to standard fall migration pattens. Could this be a direct correlation with the gulf oil spill; a vision of what is to come for mankind?

Birds Migrating out of the South- BP Fallout?
QbGhWlnTq1s

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Source (http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/11/birds-flocking-north-by-the-thousands/)

Gita
12th June 2010, 10:15
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FEMA quiet no more, puts in bid to take over claims – Dispersants are known neurotoxins!

Could FEMA oversee BP claims process?
by Bigad Shaban / Eyewitness News

NEW ORLEANS – Whether you’re a business owner trying to collect losses through BP’s claim process, or an out of work fisherman hoping to earn a paycheck by deploying boom for BP, concerns continue over the oil company’s pace in dishing out its dollars. The federal government is pitching a possible solution, but it’s a 4-letter word that residents and leaders hoped they’d never hear again: FEMA.

As BP says it’s working to send out a second round of claims checks to impacted families, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano tells Eyewitness News she plans on dispatching a top FEMA official to Louisiana to make sure BP improves the process.

“To help make sure BP’s claims process is clear, understandable, the documents have been translated, for example, into different languages and that they are paying the claims in a timely manner,” Napolitano said Friday in an interview with WWL-TV.

But in the wake of FEMA’s highly criticized performance in paying out claims post Katrina, some wonder what will be different.

“FEMA is a classic government bureaucracy it moves very, very slowly,” said Clancy DuBos, Eyewitness News Political Analyst and Gambit political columnist. “Bringing in FEMA to speed things up with oil spill claims process just seems counter intuitive.”

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john.d
12th June 2010, 10:19
FAA Closes Down Gulf of Mexico Air Traffic :

'All aircraft operations are prohibited except those flights authorized by ATC, routine flights supporting offshore oil operations; federal, state, local and military flight operations supporting oil spill recovery and reconstitution efforts; and air medical and law enforcement operations.'

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_5100.html#areas

Gita
12th June 2010, 10:23
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Military drills throughout the United States.

The Intel Hub

We have already reported on the drills planned for Chicago starting this Sunday and the Navy drills going on in Va at this very moment. I find it hard to believe that this all just a coincidence. There are way too many signs that point to this being something much more. I understand that it is the beginning of the summer and drills are common but with the events in the Gulf i thought these were worthy of posting.

ONLY A DRILL: OFFICIALS PRACTICE HURRICANE ROUTES

Don’t be alarmed if you saw 150 emergency response vehicles on I-20 or heading to the coast on U.S. 69 Wednesday morning. The Department of Public Safety and several other agencies joined forces in a live-action hurricane preparedness drill.

This was only a drill.

Three separate convoys left Arlington, headed south on 360, east on I-20 to Tyler, then south on U.S. 69 to the coast, said DPS spokeswoman Davilyn Walston.

“We wanted to make sure everyone was aware because a few weeks ago the 911 systems in South Texas were overloaded with citizen inquiries about the drill,” she said.

Don’t be alarmed if you saw 150 emergency response vehicles on I-20 or heading to the coast on U.S. 69 Wednesday morning. The Department of Public Safety and several other agencies joined forces in a live-action hurricane preparedness drill.

This was only a drill.

Three separate convoys left Arlington, headed south on 360, east on I-20 to Tyler, then south on U.S. 69 to the coast, said DPS spokeswoman Davilyn Walston.

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Gita
12th June 2010, 10:28
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FAA: Aerial Spraying Operations

The Federal Aviation Administration released a set of regulations on June 9, entitled NOTAM. This document laid out what could and couldn’t be done over the oil spill in regards to aircraft activity. BP, along with the federal government have basically put the entire airspace over the spill in a complete lock down mode. Even more interesting is the fact that the FAA is openly admitting to the existence of aerial spraying in the Gulf. One of the companies contracted out to do this “spraying” is none other than Evergreen Air.

The document starts with this warning

No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).

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Gita
12th June 2010, 10:39
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Boehner: Government--i.e. Taxpayers--Should Help Pay For Oil Spill

Congressional Democrats and the White House are toying with different ways to force BP to cover the costs of damages from the Gulf oil spill. But they face stiff opposition from industry...and it seems leading Republicans. In response to a question from TPMDC, House Minority Leader John Boehner said he believes taxpayers should help pick up the tab for the clean up.

"I think the people responsible in the oil spill--BP and the federal government--should take full responsibility for what's happening there," Boehner said at his weekly press conference this morning.
Boehner's statement followed comments last Friday by US Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue who said he opposes efforts to stick BP, a member of the Chamber, with the bill. "It is generally not the practice of this country to change the laws after the game," he said. "Everybody is going to contribute to this clean up. We are all going to have to do it. We are going to have to get the money from the government and from the companies and we will figure out a way to do that."

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Gita
12th June 2010, 10:44
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Human Rights Group: BP Discouraging Crews From Using Respirators

BP's logic seems to be that if the oil cleanup doesn't look dangerous then it must not be. The oil company has told workers not to wear respirators because it's bad for public relations, according to one human rights group.

RFK Center President Kerry Kennedy traveled to the Gulf Coast to talk to cleanup workers and found that BP was trying to repress the use of safety equipment.

"In all three states that I've visited, fishermen said when they went out to work on the cleanup, that if they tried to bring respirators they were told it was unnecessary equipment and would only spread hysteria," Kennedy told Fox News Friday.
"When I went out with eleven people, we had respirators on and within half an hour, all of our eyes were burning and our throats were closing and we all had headaches," she explained.
Kennedy was also concerned that BP was refusing to release information about the contents of the dispersant being used.

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http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/June20102/covertheearth.jpg

Gita
12th June 2010, 10:52
Thanks Viking!:thumb: (as if I haven't got enough to do - :rolleyes::p: )

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Obama and Cameron to discuss spill


Barack Obama, the US president, and David Cameron, the UK prime minister, are expected to discuss British energy giant BP's handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill in a telephone call.

White House officials said that the two leaders would also on Saturday discuss a range of other issues, against the backdrop of public anger and political pressure on both sides of the Atlantic over the spill.

BP's share price plunged to a 14-year low after the US threatened to impose new penalties on the company, angered by the magnitude of the spill caused by the collapse of an rig following an explosion on April 20.

The company also faces a US government criminal and civil investigation, possibly resulting in a slew of lawsuits and hefty fines, which raised further concerns about the London-based company's future.

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Eric J (Viking)
12th June 2010, 11:01
Thanks Viking!:thumb: (as if I haven't got enough to do - :rolleyes::p: )


Was just about to post this...you beat me to it!!! Yes you are running around like a blue arse fly...bless you... *hugs*

Why dont we condense all this topic on one thread for goodness sake!!!!!!!! Just rename one of these the 'Oil Thread'

Its not bloody difficult surely...now we have other threads opening up with the same topic since somemone in there wisdom decided to split this here there and everywhere...as if we haven't got enough to read already!!!!

Keep up the great work Gita...

viking

Gita
12th June 2010, 11:06
You little fibber Viking - you were not going to post it cos you got me to post it. I owe you one. :wink::laugh:

And yes, I do agree with your post. I'm getting confused myself with all these different threads. :rolleyes:

Eric J (Viking)
12th June 2010, 11:11
Moi... Fib!!! :cool:

Anyway keep researching...ha ha

viking

Bill Ryan
12th June 2010, 17:57
Bill -

For the oil to be sitting on top of the pipe - at steady state, held in by the pressure of the water, just a meniscus pushing above, the pressure inside the pipe would need to be at least 2800 ish PSI (I made a previous post on this) - This is pretty massive by my measure as a civil engineer - your average domestic water system for a smallish town (5-15,000 population) is about 75 PSI.

20,000 is unheard of, 70,000 boggles my mind.)

Thanks, Josh: it boggles my mind as well. I was a mathematician once, and I know what this means.

I was shocked, and I've been shocked ever since. It may be that no technology that human beings possess can stop this.

Note that the current mathematical models aren't holding up (see my Avalon blog update of 9 June). It's just not known, or knowable, how the reservoir will respond. Everyone is guessing.

This is an unprecedented situation: the human race hasn't punctured into a major artery like this before. When the Russians did something similar a few years ago, the pressures were much lower, and the operation was on land. The current high-pressure flow might not run dry for decades or centuries.

This is why there's a cover-up....... also buying time while the insiders adapt their strategies to take advantage of the situation.

Gita
12th June 2010, 19:00
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Obama Bid To Ease Tensions Over Oil Leak

Barack Obama has sought to smooth over tensions with Britain over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, saying his criticisms of BP are "nothing to do with national identity"

The US President has come under fire in the UK over his attacks on a company he refers to as "British Petroleum", with many feeling they have an anti-British tone.
But in a 30-minute phone call with David Cameron the two men reaffirmed their belief in "the unique strength of the US-UK relationship".

Mr Obama also made clear he recognised BP was a global company, according to a statement released by 10 Downing Street.

The Prime Minister expressed his "sadness" at the ongoing human and environmental damage caused by the oil leaking from the Deepwater Horizon rig.

He and the President agreed BP should continue to ensure that "all sensible and reasonable" steps are taken to deal with the disaster.

Earlier BP was ordered by the US Coast Guard to step up its efforts to stop the leak and come up with realistic proposals within the next 48 hours.

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Gita
12th June 2010, 19:12
:shout: What is wrong with this forum - again - took me 15 mins to post this one!!:rant:

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BP's Shocking Memo

The Daily Beast shows that BP, in a previous fatal disaster, increased worker risk to save money. Are there parallels with the Gulf explosion?

This is a story about the Three Little Pigs. A lot of dead oil workers. And British Petroleum.

From the minute the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded, BP has hewed to a party line: it did everything it could to prevent the April 20 accident that killed 11 men and has been spewing millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf of Mexico ever since. Some critics have questioned the veracity of that position.

Now The Daily Beast has obtained a document—displayed below—that goes to the heart of BP procedures, demonstrating that before the company’s previous major disaster—at a moment when the oil giant could choose between cost-savings and greater safety—it selected cost-savings. And BP chose to illustrate that choice, without irony, by invoking the classic Three Little Pigs fairy tale.

EXCLUSIVE: This internal BP document shows how the company took deadly risks to save money by opting to build cheaper facilities for workers. The company estimated the value of a worker's life at $10 million.

http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2010/05/25/img-three-little-pigs---outzen_123605708890.jpg

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Gita
12th June 2010, 20:24
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Feds order BP to devise quicker oil collection methods

New Orleans, Louisiana (CNN) -- Federal authorities have ordered BP to get more aggressive with its plans to recover thousands of barrels of oil spewing from a broken well into the Gulf of Mexico, according to a letter made public Saturday.

In Friday's letter, Rear Adm. James Watson, the government's on-scene incident manager, gave BP 48 hours to identify and expedite other ways to contain oil, given new estimates that doubled the amount of crude gushing out every day.

Researchers reported this week that up to 40,000 barrels, or 1.7 million gallons, a day may have escaped from the BP well in the 54 days since the explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon drilling platform.

That would mean almost 100 million gallons have spewed since the rig exploded. That's many times the amount spilled by the supertanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989.

"It is clear that additional capacity is urgently needed," Watson said in the letter to Doug Suttles, BP's chief operating officer.

"I am concerned that your current plans do not provide for maximum mobilization of resources to provide the needed collection capacity consistent with revised flow rates," Watson said. "I am also concerned that your plan does not go far enough to mobilize redundant resources in the event of an equipment failure with one of the vessels or some other unforeseen problem."
BP has captured some of the gushing oil through a containment cap that has been pumping the crude up to a drilling ship for about a week. It collected 15,500 barrels, or 651,000 gallons, on Friday and has been able to remove a total of 104,300 barrels, or about 4.4 million gallons, from Gulf waters so far.

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Bill Ryan
12th June 2010, 23:48
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12 June Avalon update:

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/whats_new.html


I have just read a report on the nature of the problem in the Gulf of Mexico that is so clear, graphic, intelligent, comprehensive and human that I've converted it into a PDF for ease of access and sharing. This is MUST READ information. Please click here:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deepwater_Horizon_Macondo_Well_Blowout_and_what_we_are_facing_in_the_Gulf.pdf

If you didn't understand the problem before, you will if you read this through to the end. It confirms the uncomfortable information in the 8, 9 and 11 June updates: please read these if you have not done so already.

It describes the magnitude of the problem in engineering detail, and states how scared a lot of the engineers are who understand what has happened. In my opinion, everyone needs to educate themselves rapidly on what we have to find a way of dealing with.

The document is in two parts. The first part, written on 11 May, explains how important it was for the 'top kill' operation to succeed. The author confessed that he prayed that it would.

We now know that it failed. The author wrote the second part today. We're now in a situation never before faced by our civilization, and no-one knows for certain what to do.

HORIZONS
13th June 2010, 00:50
BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR


As I noted Tuesday, there is growing evidence that BP's oil well - technically called the "well casing" or "well bore" - has suffered damage beneath the level of the sea floor.

The evidence is growing stronger and stronger that there is substantial damage beneath the sea floor. Indeed, it appears that BP officials themselves have admitted to such damage. This has enormous impacts on both the amount of oil leaking into the Gulf, and the prospects for quickly stopping the leak this summer.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/evidence-points-to-destruction-beneath.html

Bill Ryan
13th June 2010, 01:09
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BP, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it.
Chris Landau

http://opednews.com/articles/B-P-Halliburton-and-Trans-by-Chris-Landau-100611-452.html (http://www.opednews.com/articles/B-P-Halliburton-and-Trans-by-Chris-Landau-100611-452.html)

B.P, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it. Senator Bill Nelson has told us how bad it is.
This is our worst nightmare. The oil industry has killed the Gulf of Mexico.

My worst fears have been realized. If this link is true and the oil is coming through the sea floor, they have either blown out the formation or blown out the cement (which we know they did anyway to get the blowout to occur). I am beginning to realize why they have not wanted to close the valves on the cap. The more they close it, the more oil is going to come up through the sea floor, next to the well casing.

[goes on to discuss worst case scenarios]

HORIZONS
13th June 2010, 01:22
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12 June Avalon update:

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/whats_new.html


I have just read a report on the nature of the problem in the Gulf of Mexico that is so clear, graphic, intelligent, comprehensive and human that I've converted it into a PDF for ease of access and sharing. This is MUST READ information. Please click here:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deepwater_Horizon_Macondo_Well_Blowout_and_what_we_are_facing_in_the_Gulf.pdf

If you didn't understand the problem before, you will if you read this through to the end. It confirms the uncomfortable information in the 8, 9 and 11 June updates: please read these if you have not done so already.

It describes the magnitude of the problem in engineering detail, and states how scared a lot of the engineers are who understand what has happened. In my opinion, everyone needs to educate themselves rapidly on what we have to find a way of dealing with.

The document is in two parts. The first part, written on 11 May, explains how important it was for the 'top kill' operation to succeed. The author confessed that he prayed that it would.

We now know that it failed. The author wrote the second part today. We're now in a situation never before faced by our civilization, and no-one knows for certain what to do.

Bill, i was reading the pdf and looked at the first pic, and when I went back to the pdf it is gone. I tried and retried, but it just comes up blank?

edit: I was able to download it to my desktop - but still blank on reading it on this site.

noxon medem
13th June 2010, 09:11
Norwegian workers involved in cleanup and resque operations in mexican gulf since 22.april.
- Read someone say that there is no foreign company or crew working on the resque and cleanup-operation after the oil blowout
and well brakedown. That is not entirely correct. In norwegian news there has been reports on distress and sickness
(nausea, headaches, coldsweat and general disorientation ..)
from norwegian workers, at present there is 120 of them in the disasterarea (reported 11.june), working on 5 norwegian boats,
engaged in different parts of the operation, including trying to neutralize the toxic gases that comes up with the "oilspill",
and manage ROVs ( they were there as early as 22.april ). The wessels are «Viking Poseidon», «Skandi Neptun», «Boa DeepC»,
«Rem Forza» and «Ocean Intervention III», that is presently at participating on the different works in the mexico gulf .

Link to news is here ( norwegian articles basicly included for source-checking, can be translated if wanted and there is time for it. )
( local westcoast media ) http://www.smp.no/nyheter/article235529.ece?index=20#debate
( national tabloid reedit ) http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/06/11/nyheter/bp/utenriks/oljeutslipp/12095008/

Tru comments in the local news I found this base of info on the situation, including ROV-feeds and images.
Maybe this has been posted before. I have not had time to check the solidity or angle of this site, but here it is:
http://markimoore.com/

BTW: On the 20.may there were reports of evacuation of workers from a norwegian oilplatform in local waters (Gullfaks C) in the north sea.
That platform has been producing since 1989, and was experiencing pressurechanges in a well and failing technical barriers days before 20.may,
and worked on preventing a blowout. 89 was avacuated, and 140 stayed behind to try and remedy the situation, that is now stabile.
(pr 13.6.2010) - A link to national news:
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7133016

And: One month ago ( reported here 13.may ) a drillingplatform (Aban Pearl, earlyer Bulford Dolphin, built 1977) sank outside Venezuela,
supposedly after taking in water and turning over. All 95 persons resqued safely, and no reports on leaks or spilling. (!?)
http://arkiv.na24.no/Nyhet/387858/%C2%ABNorsk%C2%BB+rigg+forliste.html

Related: read in Kerrys blog about Duncan O'Finioan having visions of the oil as the "lifeblood" ( Lubricant, shockabsorber )
of this planet, and that struck a cord in me as being a valid (truthful, fruitfull) image, and if so then maybe we are the "suckers"
( that be vampires or mosquitos ... ) - feeding off that prescious fluid in a mindless frenzy, on the peril of our own wellbeing
and the harmonic continuing of this whole, holy, excistence.
Interesting to see how many are refering to the colour red, when talking about the DW Horizon-oilspill ( the colour of blood )
Hope to see more on that subject, the very open and inspiring notice found here : ( a bit down on page )
"Duncan O'Finioan weighs in on the intention behind the BP Oil Spill", blog for 31.may.
http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

Its good to be well-informed (some pun intended) and aware about this potential crisis, but good advise not to worry too much.
Be concerned and passionate, but realistic with a constructive optimism to balanse the grief over the disaster.
For most of us it is physical and mental side-effects of it that both hits us, and is most relevant to work on. And to change our ways ...
We act ,and react, were we can and must, and then leave the rest to the world, the universe and faith.
And be glad that your priorities have left you with more choices than a nuclear bomb, when it comes a time to pick a tool for your challenges.
Maybe just go outside and find some simple, grateful activity, to tell the planet ( mother earth, if you will ) that you love and respect her,
- and we care ...

Gita
13th June 2010, 11:00
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"We Don't Need This on Camera": BP's Crappy Cleanup Job— By Mac McClelland
| Fri Jun. 11, 2010 8:55 AM PDT

You know Isle Grande Terre, Louisiana, from the unbelievable pictures of oiled birds taken there last week. It's also the island just to the east of Grand Isle, which I've been reporting on since oil made landfall there several weeks ago. I wanted to check up on Grande Terre, and so to get there, and avoid a BP escort, yesterday I got in a kayak with my intrepid former literature professor from the University of New Orleans and paddler extraordinaire, Dr. John Hazlett.

On the way, we beached ourselves on an uninhabited spit near Grand Isle State Park. It was completely covered in oil, and there were no cleanup crews in sight.
http://motherjones.com/files/images/mac-twitpic-oil-beach600x450.jpg


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Gita
13th June 2010, 11:07
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Oil spill covers geese, ducks in Utah
(AP) – 13 hours ago

SALT LAKE CITY — A leaked pipeline caused oil to spill into a Salt Lake City creek Saturday, coating geese and ducks and closing a park, officials said.

An estimated 400 to 500 barrels of oil spewed into Red Butte Creek before crews capped the leak site. Nearly 50 gallons of crude oil per minute initially had spilled into the creek, according to Scott Freitag, a Salt Lake City Fire Department spokesman.

"Our real concern is keeping people safe, and keeping the oil from reaching the Great Salt Lake," Frietag told the Deseret News.

Officials were unsure of the cause of the leak, near the University of Utah campus, or the extent of the spill's environmental impact. Mayor Ralph Becker said drinking water for residents was not affected.

"Our fire teams have capped the site and will work to determine the damage and the best course of action," the mayor said in a statement.

Crews were using absorbent booms and creating dams to contain the spill, but officials said some oil had reached as far as the Jordan River, and oil flowed into a pond in the city's Liberty Park, near where residents reported dead fish in their ponds.

A crew was trying to collect and take birds to Hogle Zoo cleaning stations and other facilities, said Brad Park, zoo spokesman.

About 150 birds have been identified for rehabilitation, said Jane Larson, Hogle's animal care supervisor. About 75 percent are Canada geese. Several ducks also were affected.
The pipeline flows to Salt Lake City from Colorado and feeds the city's oil and gas refineries.

Employees at the Veteran Affairs Hospital first noticed oil in the stream just before 7 a.m. Officials then traced the spill to the pipe near Red Butte Garden. Freitag said the pipeline was shut off about 7:45 a.m.

"Chevron is taking full responsibility for this pipeline leak," Chevron spokesman Mark Sullivan told the Salt Lake Tribune. "We're taking full responsibility for any financial damage, environmental damage, safety concerns, impacts on health and cleanup."

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Gita
13th June 2010, 11:21
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Oil spill in Red Butte Creek threatens waters, wildlife

SALT LAKE CITY — Containment of a crude oil spill estimated at around 20,000 gallons into Red Butte Creek is expected to last well into the night and continue through Sunday as multiple agencies work to mitigate impacts to the stream and wildlife.

The fracture of the Chevron pipeline sent oil gushing into the riparian corridor, leaving the thick, tacky substance clinging to rocks, soil and any fish and birds in its path.

A biology teacher from Rowland Hall watched with dismay the stream "running black" on Saturday.

The creek that runs through his backyard and normally gives him such delight instead swamped the morning air with a horrible smell.

"It stinks and it is toxic," Peter Hayes said. "Whatever is in that creek will die. I have so little faith in oil companies to take care of this."

Even as the BP Gulf Coast oil tragedy and its stumbling cleanup efforts continue to dominate the news, Salt Lake City awakened Saturday morning to its own ecological disaster winding its way through Salt Lake neighborhoods and turning Liberty Park into a command center.

Where children would normally play and chase ducks, those same waterfowl were coated with the gooey substance, helplessly trying to groom the oil off themselves.

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Gita
13th June 2010, 11:25
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Massive cleanup effort underway after oil leak in Red Butte Canyon

SALT LAKE CITY -- A massive effort is underway to clean up the damage left behind when a Chevron pipeline leaked up to 21,000 gallons of oil into Salt Lake City waterways Saturday.

Crews capped the site of a leak, which was spilling oil into Red Butte Creek. As of 4 p.m. Friday, officials said they had the flow slowed to just two to three gallons per minute.

Chevron officials have confirmed the pipeline was shut off around 7:45 a.m., but warn residual oil was still leaking at the fracture point.

Though the site of the leak has been contained, officials estimate up to 500 barrels of oil have already been released.

The Salt Lake Valley Health Department says the oil has reached the Jordan River down to 1300 South and appears to be continuing into the Great Salt Lake.

Liberty Park was closed to the public and will likely remain closed for weeks as crews work to clean up the mess.

Leak detected

Before officials knew anything was happening, Red Butte Creek was running grotesque shades of black and brown. People walking their dogs noticed a stench permeating the city's east side.

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Gita
13th June 2010, 12:44
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Oil container washes ashore in Florida

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/06/12/florida.oil.container/story.bp.container.irpt.jpg

A larger container with BP markings washes ashore Saturday on a part of a beach in Panama City, Florida.
(CNN) -- A portion of beach in Panama City, Florida, was closed Saturday after a large oil container with BP markings washed ashore, local authorities said.

It was not immediately clear if the container, which was leaking a small amount of oil, came from the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that exploded April 20 and sank two days later, triggering a massive underwater gusher that has led to the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history.

The large, stainless steel tank about the size of a refrigerator washed up on the west end of Panama City Beach and was discovered shortly after 9 a.m. Saturday, Bay County sheriff's Deputy Ray Maulbeck told CNN.

The container has a capacity of 550 gallons of oil, but Maulbeck said officials didn't know how much oil was in the tank.

BP officials could not be immediately reached for comment.
Panama City has not yet seen tar balls or any other evidence of the spill reach its shoreline, according to Bay County spokeswoman Valerie Lovett.

"It was about six foot tall and about three or four feet deep," Lovett said. "They took it over to the local Coast Guard station and I was told it's going to be taken to Louisiana, to be laid down with other items similar to that -- that are being considered evidence in the investigation."

The beach is set to reopen Sunday, authorities said.


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Gita
14th June 2010, 07:42
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Epidemic Hazard for Venice La. – Corexits Reign of Terror

As information regarding the possible evacuation of the Gulf pours in, we now have reports that an epidemic hazard was issued almost two weeks ago. According to RSOE EDIS, a website that has a close partnership with the Hungarian government, this hazard was issued for Venice Louisiana on May 26th, 2010. Reports of nausea and trouble breathing due to the toxic dispersant known as Corexit, seems to be flooding in.

In their two week old report, RSOE stated that British Petroleum workers from all over the Gulf have been getting sick at an alarming rate. Furthermore, the epidemic hazard was declared less than 100 km from an area with a population of over 3 million.

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Gita
14th June 2010, 07:55
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...

EXTREME ALERT — Gulf Coast Evacuation Contingency Plans Soon to Go Operational: The operational name for the Gulf Coast Evacuation is "Swift Fox". Yesterday morning at around 8:30 Mountain time, I received information that specific towns, in Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and Georgia were having hotel rooms rented in mass by different named "Societies" using Federal government credit cards. The block hotel room rentals are for half the available rooms in hotels with a minimum of 120 rooms. Specific conversations were "overheard" that would indicate that the planned Gulf Coast evacuation is soon to be implemented. The only scenario I hear that may force the government to evacuate the coast is a multiple plume situation. Apparently, the unmitigated oil spilling has caused a pressure flux which, ironically, has caused a spider web network of Gulf seabed fissures, which has caused at least one other confirmed oil plume. NOAA is searching for two more suspected ones". This quote is from an insider who is really concerned as he should be. Here's additional info he provided. His comments in the following quote: "I know FEMA has already scoped out FEMA camp locations, i.e. vacant lots and swaths of land that can be leased temporarily in Texas and Georgia".


The inside guy said it is up to the President to give the go-signal. There is an evacuation plan drafted and in place, ready for execution only *if* the administration deems it necessary. That can happen two ways. FEMA makes an emergency declaration with recommendation to POTUS (President of the US) for an evacuation or 2/3 of the Gulf States request federal help for an evac. States can individually declare an evacuation of their Gulf residents, but that would be a state action only, not FEMA/Federal".


One week ago I was given a "vision of bread" while praying for wisdom. I saw a piece of bread being ripped apart as you would tear apart a sandwich from the bottom up. Imagine holding a sandwich in both hands and pressing your thumbs through the center of the bread and then tearing the bread, ripping it apart into two sections!


I wondered why the Lord would give me the Bread Vision, and then it became apparent. FAMINE is going to explode through the land as a result of the Gulf of Mexico's sea floor rupturing! Yesterday, as I pondered all that's going on, I received an image of a jig saw puzzle with all the interrelated pieces being broken apart, and being tied to this event taking place in the Gulf. The famine that is coming to the US is heartbreaking in it's ramifications. The slaughter and devastation is unimaginable. As the Great Quake literally tears apart the US mainland, all America's external enemies including those "enemies within" will seek to destroy and devour that which is left and flee, but they will not succeed. THEY WILL BE STOPPED BY ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF. THE DESTRUCTION THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR THE INNOCENT WILL BE SUPERNATURALLY TURNED AGAINST THEM!


I will be publishing the prophecy that the Lord has given me at His appointed time. I want to personally thank all of the Lord's intercessors who pray for me daily that I might warn and help prepare those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. I urge every one who understands the lateness of the hour to get their hearts right before the Living God, as the time comes when only the power of an individual's relationship with God and the power of prayer will get us through the most perilous time period in ALL HISTORY! —Stephen Quayle

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Gita
14th June 2010, 08:02
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Kennedy to Jindal: Prepare for BP bankruptcy

State Treasurer John Kennedy is asking Gov. Bobby Jindal to prepare for the possibility of BP filing for bankruptcy.

“I am not suggesting to you that BP will or is about to file for bankruptcy. I am suggesting to you that it is a possibility,” Kennedy wrote the governor this week.

Kennedy is offering to work with the Jindal administration to develop a plan.

Wall Street is kicking around the possibility that BP will file for bankruptcy and merge with another company to limit the liabilities stemming from the April 20 rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico. Multiple states, including Louisiana, already are being impacted by the massive oil leak.

Texaco filed for bankruptcy in 1987 after a jury ordered the company to pay Pennzoil $1 billion.

BP has denied in published reports that it is seeking legal advice on filing for bankruptcy.

In his letter, Kennedy said Jindal seems to be predicating his plans to remediate the leak and compensate those affected on BP’s ability to pay.

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Gita
14th June 2010, 08:35
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BP bailout proposal coming soon

Get ready for the BP bailout debate. As the most hated company in America led by the most despised CEO in business continues its systematic deceptions about the magnitude of the catastrophe, its systematic secrecy and threats of reprisal against employees who speak the truth in public and its systematic blockade against reporters seeking the basic facts, get ready for the mother of all political debates.

When the full damage of the oil is calculated, and the full payment of restitution is required and the full consequences of lawsuits are understood and the monetary consequences of such enormous personal and economic misery are realized, BP will tell us that we face the choice of BP going bankrupt and being unable to pay its debts or receiving a government bailout so it can meet its obligations from the damage it has done.

We will be told that BP is too big to fail.

Prediction: Before the rooster crows another 60 times, BP will be seeking a government bailout. If you thought the Wall Street bailout debate was nasty, wait until you see the BP bailout debate.

There should be NO bailout of BP paid for by ANY taxpayer, period, end of discussion, over and out. If necessary there should be a fund paid for by all of the oil companies doing offshore drilling, as the price of their doing business off our shores and as the incentive to make sure this does not happen again.

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astrid
14th June 2010, 09:29
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Scientists Warn Gulf Of Mexico Sea Floor Fractured Beyond Repair

A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's
Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.

Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.

BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 [photo below] which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft).

According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.

Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters.
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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/057/Scientists_Warn_Gulf_Of_Mexico_Sea_Floor_Fractured_Beyond_Repair.html

peace ,

Astrid

Gita
14th June 2010, 14:46
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Use Mississippi River to stop the oil

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/OPINION/06/13/kemp.oil.river/t1larg.mississippi.river.wetlands.gi.jpg

Editor's note: G. Paul Kemp, Ph.D., is vice president, Louisiana Coastal Initiative, for the National Audubon Society. A former associate research professor at Louisiana State University, he served in the early 1990s as the first executive director of the Coalition to Restore Coastal Louisiana, a nonprofit organization dedicated to returning Louisiana's Mississippi River delta to environmental and economic sustainability.

(CNN) -- Every catastrophe has its unsung heroes. In BP's oil spill disaster, one such hero is not a person but a river: the Mississippi River. But the river's strength is flagging, and unless our leaders change what the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is doing, things could get a lot worse for our coastal marshes.

Many people know that the Mississippi River flows through the Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana; but fewer are aware that this is only one of two paths it takes to the Gulf. The Mississippi divides to create its delta upstream of Baton Rouge at a place called Old River. The Atchafalaya River is the western channel. In 1963, the Corps built a dam with sluice gates at Old River between the Mississippi and Atchafalaya to keep the shorter Atchafalaya route from "capturing" the whole river. Later, they built more structures to gain better control.

Today, every drop of water that goes down either the Mississippi or the Atchafalaya marches to the orders of the U.S. Army, which traditionally seeks to maintain a constant 70-to-30 percent split -- with the larger amount going to the main-stem Mississippi -- between the two river branches, by adjusting the gates at Old River on a daily basis.

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Gita
14th June 2010, 15:02
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BP Hit With £1.1bn Bill For US Oil Spill

BP has already spent $1.6bn (£1.1bn) containing the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, it has announced.

The figure includes $350m (£239m) spent in the last week, boosted by emergency payments of $25m (£17m) each to the states of Florida, Alabama and Mississippi.

A total of 51,000 compensation claims have now been made against BP since the leak began - 26,500 of which it has already paid out on, costing £42m.

The firm is also spending £245m to build barrier islands off the Louisiana coast to limit the environmental damage.

Energy Secretary Chris Huhne is to make a statement on the latest situation to MPs this afternoon.

Local residents and businesses there are becoming increasingly frustrated by the response to the spill from both BP and the US government.

Sally Arthy, Sky News Washington Editor
In a statement BP said that it was working to "protect the shoreline of the Gulf of Mexico, and to collect and clean up any oil that has reached shore".

The firms board is meeting in London to discuss deferring its dividend payment until the oil spill has been contained, following intense US pressure.

Uncertainty over BP’s dividend payment, which accounts for £1 in every £7 paid out to UK pension funds, has seen the company's share price plummet over recent weeks.

It is now worth nearly half what it was when the Deepwater Horizon rig sank on April 22, causing the oil leak.

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Gita
14th June 2010, 15:14
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BP stock drops another 7%

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- BP's stock dropped more than 7% Monday morning -- the 56th day of the oil spill - as the oil giant geared up for another brutal week in the Gulf and on the Hill.

London-based BP (BP) is holding a board meeting on Monday to discuss whether the company should issue its first quarter dividend, which is set to be paid out on June 21. The matter is controversial since the company will have to pay for billions of dollars of massive economic and environmental damage caused by the ongoing oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Then, on Tuesday and Thursday, BP executives will be appearing before Congressional committees to testify about the spill, which has been pouring oil into the Gulf since the Deepwater Horizon offshore oil rig exploded and sank on April 20, killing 11 workers. As much as 40,000 barrels, or 1.7 million gallons, are leaking per day, according to government estimates.

BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward is scheduled to testify before Congress on Thursday.

BP executives, including Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg, are scheduled to meet with President Obama on Wednesday. The president wants the company to create a BP-funded escrow account to pay damages to individuals and businesses wrecked by the spill.

Obama is making his fourth visit to the Gulf region since the April disaster, on Monday. On Tuesday, he'll return to Washington to deliver an 8 p.m. ET televised address to deliver a speech on the oil spill.

BP was not immediately available for comment.

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JoshERTW
14th June 2010, 15:58
Check out the graphic at this link - a good visual depiction of what we are dealing with - note the Pressures listed as you go deeper.

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/

Gita
14th June 2010, 16:51
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BP's dispersant Corexit is harmful & dangerous: READ THE LABEL

BP says NALCO Corexit 9500 is not harmful. It does not take a rocket scientist to READ the warning label.

Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco of Naperville, Illinois. Corexit is is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm).

In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled "Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview" Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed. According to the Clark and George-Ares report, Corexit mixed with the higher gulf coast water temperatures becomes even more toxic.

So to perpetuate the lie that NALCO Corexit is safe, NALCO's PR machine sends out a press release that says the following: (P.S. the bolded sentences are my editorial commentary.)

"One ingredient is used as a wetting agent in dry gelatin, beverage mixtures, and fruit juice drinks." I would like BP COO Doug Suttles take a cocktail of rum and Corexit.

"A second ingredient is used in a brand-name dry skin cream and also in a body shampoo." Maybe Tony Hayward can shampoo his hair in Corexit?

"A third ingredient is found in a popular brand of baby bath liquid."

"A fourth ingredient is found extensively in cosmetics and is also used as a surface-active agent and emulsifier for agents used in food contact." How about a shrimp barbeque marinated in Corexit for the entire NALCO board?

"A fifth ingredient is used by a major supplier of brand name household cleaning products for 'soap scum' removal." Scum removal? That sounds good for something!!!

"A sixth ingredient is used in hand creams and lotions, odorless paints and stain blockers."

http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/ybenjamin/2010/05/31/Corexit600x236.jpg

I wonder if we can get some BP volunteers to serve as lab rats and spray an aerosol cloud of Corexit and have them breathe it in. We can also try asking them to take a bath in Corexit.

And if you wonder what happens to Corexit and oil in the sea, check out this video by Ocean Adventures' Jean-Michel Cousteau. Oil is bad enough. Corexit and oil is far more deadly to marine life.


SKGMXBNd1Ho


http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/ybenjamin/2010/06/01/corexit_2600x481.jpg

It's amazing how there are still people who act as apologists for BP and NALCO who claim that Corexit 9500's ingredients are not kept as proprietary secrets. As I said, read the label. In tech-talk, it's RTFM!!!

Dear BP, you may want to begin to be transparent and truthful to the public. It's never too late.

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Check out the graphic at this link - a good visual depiction of what we are dealing with - note the Pressures listed as you go deeper.

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/



Nice one Josh.:thumb: I hope you don't mind me posting the actual pic. :)

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/images/stories/oap-landsea-oceans-100608-moderate.jpg

Gita
14th June 2010, 17:03
This article connect a lot of dots and shows that it was all done for profit.

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Bombshell expose'. The real reason the oil still flows into the Gulf of Mexico.

As you know, the Deep Water Horizon has exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. It has been spewing oil from a ruptured wellpipe for over a month.
BP and the US Government has said they are trying everything possible to stop that multi million gallon oil from continuing to flow into the Gulf.
I am about to dispute that claim and offer an expose' as to why that story about them doing everything possible is a lie and a profitable enterprise to those who would make money from this disaster.
The Top Kill method was started and suspended several times. It was being attempted only half heartedly. The reason is, there is no money to be made with a solution that simple.
The real money is in the use of dispersants.
There is a company called NALCO. They make water purification systems and chemical dispersants.
NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.
NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their roster. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.
If you dig a little deeper you will find NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.
Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything).
The dispersant chemical is known as Corexit. What it does is hold the oil below the water's surface. It is supposed to break up the spill into smaller pools. It is toxic and banned in Europe.
NALCO says they are using older and newer versions of Corexit in the Gulf.. (Why would you need a newer version, if the old one was fine?)
There is big money and even bigger players in this scam. While they are letting the oil blow wide open into the Gulf, the stakes and profit rise.
The Dolphins, Whales, Manatees, Sea Turtles and fish suffocate and die. The coastal regions, salt marshes, tourist attractions and the shore front properties are being destroyed, possibly permanently.The air quality is diminished. The Gulf of Mexico fishing industry is decimated.
All to create a need for their expensive and extremely profitable poison.
Some friends and I have compiled extensive articles and reports to support this claim.
Thank you:
Sir_Templar. He brought this to our attention and hs supplied links and articles.
Spongedocks. She tirelessly searched through mountains of information & supplied valuable links & resources..
Bobbi85710 She has contributed links articles and uncovered the Stimulus funds.
The Research:
'This is NALCO:
http://www.nalco.com/index.htm
Goldman Sachs was part of a three-pronged group that purchased NALCO:
http://bit.ly/8Z3Ai6
Buffett’s Bet On Water, NALCO (NLC is trade code):
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3095068
'Blackstone, Apollo and Goldman Sachs to acquire Ondeo NALCO' (COREXIT 9500):
http://bit.ly/bVHQkR
The Milken Institute - Leon Black of Apollo Management LLC (i.e. NALCO): http://bit.ly/vJLz
BP plc, Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs, NALCO Holding Co., Halliburton Co:
http://yhoo.it/amEhiS
The Chicago, NALCO, Arab, Blago, Rezko Connection:
http://bit.ly/d88x31
Obama's Economic Adviser Buffet,= Berkshire Hathaway Inc - NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/ati3AL
NALCO and the China Connection:
http://bit.ly/daKYmk
'NALCO eyes doubling of sales in China:
http://bit.ly/bi7BZw
Berkshire the second-largest shareholder in NALCO:
http://bit.ly/cvHDAl
Company Profile 'NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/9qeTkd
'96 "partnerships with enviro products thru 2010"! Attendees: Gore M. Strong & NALCO:
http://is.gd/ctV7p
Gore/Strong EPA Conference '96:
http://is.gd/ctVfN
BP Embraces Exxon’s Toxic Dispersant, Ignores Safer Alternative
It has been confirmed that the dispersal agent being used by BP and the government is Corexit 9500 , a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, IL. Their stock took a sharp jump, up more than 18% at its highest point of the day today, after it was announced that their product is the one being used in the Gulf. Nalco’s CEO, Erik Frywald, expressed their commitment to “helping the people and environment of the Gulf Coast recover as rapidly as possible.” It may be that the best way to help would be to remove their product from the fray. Take a look at some of the facts about Corexit 9500:
A report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. entitled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview ” states that “Corexit 9500, Corexit 9527, and Corexit 9580 have moderate toxicity to early life stages of fish, crustaceans and mollusks (LC50 or EC50 – 1.6 to 100 ppm*). It goes on to say that decreasing water temperatures in lab tests showed decreased toxicity, a lowered uptake of the dispersant. Unfortunately, we’re going to be seeing an increase in temperatures, not a decrease. Amongst the other caveats is that the study is species-specific, that other animals may be more severely affected, silver-sided fish amongst them.
http://www.protecttheocean.com/gulf-oil-spill-bp/
...

So there you have it folks.
The wellpipe rupture was a "Convenient" accident. The officials have no intention of stopping that oil spewing into the Gulf. They scammed us with the Dome experiment. They used the Top Kill method as a ruse to make us believe they were trying something. I'm sure they had many calls to use a method that has been around for decades and being used successfully many times.
It's all about the profit.
This expose has shown Who, what, when, where and why, the dithering.
It's about the dispersements, the stimulus, the billionaires who are vested in NALCO, the scientists who are all onboard with the green agenda, Chicago and blatant deception.
Always follow the money!
~~~

Obama blaming BP:
Obama blames BP and orders probe
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/05/20105231713717747.html
Pelosi blaming Bush:
http://tinyurl.com/249e2n2
~~~
In the meantime, we all now know the truth.
Greed, corruption, conspiracy, fraud and deception are where the blame lies. From the top down is involved.
Remember, you cannot redistribute fishing/shrimping industries, tourism, ocean front property, boating. That wealth will have to be destroyed.
They are poisoning our Gulf for personal profit!.
It's not just about dispersants. It is about the profits, investments, the Stimulus, the short selling of stocks, the chemicals and the greed.
There is money to be made in the crisis, not just in the oil.
All the players, including BP are into a lot more than oil.
Follow the money!
Unquote

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Grizzom
14th June 2010, 17:29
After reading Bills pdf.

It's seems all we can do is wait and see and stop speculating?

I wonder if BP will give me a free tank of gas so I can get the hell outta Florida?

I doubt it?

I guess I can always siphon some out of the gulf? :confused:












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"I love the smell of the gulf in the morning"

. "It smells like Benzine"

Eric J (Viking)
14th June 2010, 18:50
This article connect a lot of dots and shows that it was all done for profit.

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Bombshell expose'. The real reason the oil still flows into the Gulf of Mexico.

As you know, the Deep Water Horizon has exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. It has been spewing oil from a ruptured wellpipe for over a month.
BP and the US Government has said they are trying everything possible to stop that multi million gallon oil from continuing to flow into the Gulf.
I am about to dispute that claim and offer an expose' as to why that story about them doing everything possible is a lie and a profitable enterprise to those who would make money from this disaster.
The Top Kill method was started and suspended several times. It was being attempted only half heartedly. The reason is, there is no money to be made with a solution that simple.
The real money is in the use of dispersants.
There is a company called NALCO. They make water purification systems and chemical dispersants.
NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.
NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their roster. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.
If you dig a little deeper you will find NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.
Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything).
The dispersant chemical is known as Corexit. What it does is hold the oil below the water's surface. It is supposed to break up the spill into smaller pools. It is toxic and banned in Europe.
NALCO says they are using older and newer versions of Corexit in the Gulf.. (Why would you need a newer version, if the old one was fine?)
There is big money and even bigger players in this scam. While they are letting the oil blow wide open into the Gulf, the stakes and profit rise.
The Dolphins, Whales, Manatees, Sea Turtles and fish suffocate and die. The coastal regions, salt marshes, tourist attractions and the shore front properties are being destroyed, possibly permanently.The air quality is diminished. The Gulf of Mexico fishing industry is decimated.
All to create a need for their expensive and extremely profitable poison.
Some friends and I have compiled extensive articles and reports to support this claim.
Thank you:
Sir_Templar. He brought this to our attention and hs supplied links and articles.
Spongedocks. She tirelessly searched through mountains of information & supplied valuable links & resources..
Bobbi85710 She has contributed links articles and uncovered the Stimulus funds.
The Research:
'This is NALCO:
http://www.nalco.com/index.htm
Goldman Sachs was part of a three-pronged group that purchased NALCO:
http://bit.ly/8Z3Ai6
Buffett’s Bet On Water, NALCO (NLC is trade code):
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3095068
'Blackstone, Apollo and Goldman Sachs to acquire Ondeo NALCO' (COREXIT 9500):
http://bit.ly/bVHQkR
The Milken Institute - Leon Black of Apollo Management LLC (i.e. NALCO): http://bit.ly/vJLz
BP plc, Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs, NALCO Holding Co., Halliburton Co:
http://yhoo.it/amEhiS
The Chicago, NALCO, Arab, Blago, Rezko Connection:
http://bit.ly/d88x31
Obama's Economic Adviser Buffet,= Berkshire Hathaway Inc - NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/ati3AL
NALCO and the China Connection:
http://bit.ly/daKYmk
'NALCO eyes doubling of sales in China:
http://bit.ly/bi7BZw
Berkshire the second-largest shareholder in NALCO:
http://bit.ly/cvHDAl
Company Profile 'NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/9qeTkd
'96 "partnerships with enviro products thru 2010"! Attendees: Gore M. Strong & NALCO:
http://is.gd/ctV7p
Gore/Strong EPA Conference '96:
http://is.gd/ctVfN
BP Embraces Exxon’s Toxic Dispersant, Ignores Safer Alternative
It has been confirmed that the dispersal agent being used by BP and the government is Corexit 9500 , a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, IL. Their stock took a sharp jump, up more than 18% at its highest point of the day today, after it was announced that their product is the one being used in the Gulf. Nalco’s CEO, Erik Frywald, expressed their commitment to “helping the people and environment of the Gulf Coast recover as rapidly as possible.” It may be that the best way to help would be to remove their product from the fray. Take a look at some of the facts about Corexit 9500:
A report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. entitled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview ” states that “Corexit 9500, Corexit 9527, and Corexit 9580 have moderate toxicity to early life stages of fish, crustaceans and mollusks (LC50 or EC50 – 1.6 to 100 ppm*). It goes on to say that decreasing water temperatures in lab tests showed decreased toxicity, a lowered uptake of the dispersant. Unfortunately, we’re going to be seeing an increase in temperatures, not a decrease. Amongst the other caveats is that the study is species-specific, that other animals may be more severely affected, silver-sided fish amongst them.
http://www.protecttheocean.com/gulf-oil-spill-bp/
...

So there you have it folks.
The wellpipe rupture was a "Convenient" accident. The officials have no intention of stopping that oil spewing into the Gulf. They scammed us with the Dome experiment. They used the Top Kill method as a ruse to make us believe they were trying something. I'm sure they had many calls to use a method that has been around for decades and being used successfully many times.
It's all about the profit.
This expose has shown Who, what, when, where and why, the dithering.
It's about the dispersements, the stimulus, the billionaires who are vested in NALCO, the scientists who are all onboard with the green agenda, Chicago and blatant deception.
Always follow the money!
~~~

Obama blaming BP:
Obama blames BP and orders probe
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/05/20105231713717747.html
Pelosi blaming Bush:
http://tinyurl.com/249e2n2
~~~
In the meantime, we all now know the truth.
Greed, corruption, conspiracy, fraud and deception are where the blame lies. From the top down is involved.
Remember, you cannot redistribute fishing/shrimping industries, tourism, ocean front property, boating. That wealth will have to be destroyed.
They are poisoning our Gulf for personal profit!.
It's not just about dispersants. It is about the profits, investments, the Stimulus, the short selling of stocks, the chemicals and the greed.
There is money to be made in the crisis, not just in the oil.
All the players, including BP are into a lot more than oil.
Follow the money!
Unquote

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Mmmm interesting Gita....Thanks for all ur research...very much appreciated...

I suppose if this was orchestrated for profit, and it looks highly likely it was...then it was a deliberate act of terrorism...it was a planned act and no accident!!

viking

Gita
14th June 2010, 21:09
You are most welcomed Viking. :hug:


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Subsurface Oil Exists Says USF Researchers
Layers of degraded oil found suspended at depths of 400 meters to 1,400 meters.

By Vickie Chachere
USF.edu News Writer

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (June 8, 2010) – Researchers at the University of South Florida’s College of Marine Science have confirmed the presence of distinct layers of degraded oil in the deep waters of the northern Gulf of Mexico many miles from the Deepwater Horizon explosion site.

After a series of tests conducted by both USF and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, USF scientists are continuing research on the subsurface oil to determine if it can be conclusively linked to oil found at the surface of the gulf.

NOAA tests separately link the surface oil to the Deepwater Horizon well. The NOAA analysis was unable to directly link the subsurface samples to the Deepwater Horizon spill because the sample was too small to produce conclusive results.

“We have not concluded our comparison of the oils,” said Ernst Peebles, USF’s lead scientific investigator on the R/V Weatherbird II trip. “Preliminary results show similarities at least at the surface.”

This research was funded by NOAA and led by Peebles, a biological oceanographer; Robert Weisberg, a physical oceanographer; chemical oceanographer David Hollander; and geological oceanographer David Naar.

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astrid
15th June 2010, 04:30
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BP Engineer Called Doomed Rig a "Nightmare Well"

Six days before the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, a BP drilling engineer called the rig a "nightmare well" that had caused the company problems in the past.

The comment by BP engineer Brian Morel came in an e-mail April 14. On April 20, the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion killed 11 people and sent tens of millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf in the nation's worst environmental disaster.

The e-mail was among dozens of internal documents released Monday in Washington by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which is investigating the explosion and its aftermath. Committee leaders said BP made a series of questionable decisions before the explosion that "posed a trade-off between cost and well safety."

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source...http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/14/national/main6581586.shtml

Gita
15th June 2010, 08:03
Quote

Oil And Gas Leaks From Cracks In Seabed Confirmed – Videos Show Gulf Oil Spill Leaking From Seafloor

There have been several reports of oil and gas leaking on the cracks in the Gulf of Mexico seafloor which may cause problems with BP capping the gushing oil well.

Although BP denies that there is oil or gas leaking from the cracks in the sea floor many people watching the BP Oil leak cam have witnessed explosions and leaks from the seafloor.

I discussed this issue in detail when I was recently interviewed by Fintan Dunne.

Well those reports from Senator Nelson and Matt Simmons among other experts are now confirmed and if you didn’t already now it could be really bad news.

As Keith Olbermann put it on his MSNBC show “Countdown” when reporting about the possibility of the sea floor leaking “What’s Worse Than Doomsay? … This is It”.

In any case, BP denying these reports is absolute proof that BP is not being truthful about what is really going on the sea floor.

The Government really needs to step in at this point and allow independent outsiders such as James Cameron assess the situation on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor.

This also indicates BP is putting on a pony show until the relief wells can be completed.

However several experts including Matt Simmons and Dr. Stephen A. Rinehart have came forward and said if the well casing is blown because we do indeed have leaks coming from cracks in the sea bed it could cause problems with the relief wells.

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Gita
15th June 2010, 08:10
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BP Refuses to Allow Scientists to Test Oil Spill Samples


Scientists in Florida are concerned that large plumes of oil floating beneath the surface in the Gulf of Mexico originated from the Deepwater Horizon spill, and want to test their samples against oil collected by BP. But the oil corporation is refusing to cooperate.

University of South Florida scientist David Hollander said he was “just taken aback” by BP’s unwillingness to assist in a scientific inquiry into the trouble. “It was a little unsettling.”

BP has publicly refused to acknowledge responsibility for the large masses of petroleum floating deep in the gulf which could be headed towards Florida. Company CEO Tony Hayward has gone so far as to insist the oil is “on the surface” of the ocean and that “there aren’t any plumes.”

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, however, is now saying oil has been discovered under the surface, although at “very low concentrations.”

In addition to not cooperating with scientists, BP has refused to grant media requests to fly over the gulf to capture images of oil slicks—refusals that also have been backed by federal agencies involved in the response effort.
-Noel Brinkerhoff

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Source (http://www.allgov.com/Top_Stories/ViewNews/BP_Refuses_to_Allow_Scientists_to_Test_Oil_Spill_Samples_100611)

Gita
15th June 2010, 08:26
:rolleyes:

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Obama's Oil Pledge Ahead Of TV Address

President Barack Obama is promising the people of the Gulf states affected by the massive oil leak that "things will return to normal".

As he tours the areas affected ahead of his television address to the nation tonight, he declared: "This region that's known a lot of hardship will bounce back, just like it's bounced back before.
"We are going to do everything we can, 24/7, to make sure that communities get back on their feet."

The President is on his fourth visit to the area. As he began, he framed the oil spill as an environmental 9/11.

"In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11, I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," President Obama said.

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Gita
15th June 2010, 08:33
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Obama continues Gulf visit, prepares to address nation

President Obama addresses the nation live Tuesday night at 8 ET with the latest on the BP oil disaster. Stay with CNN for updates on the cleanup and effort to stop the leak.

(CNN) -- President Obama will continue his Gulf Coast visit Tuesday with a stop in Florida's Panhandle, where beaches have started to see signs of oil as crude continues to gush from a ruptured deepwater well.

Obama, on his fourth trip to the region since oil began spewing from the well in April, is scheduled to return to Washington later Tuesday and address the nation about the situation from the Oval Office.

But first, Obama will give a speech of support for oil-impacted communities and American troops while at Pensacola's Naval Air Station Tuesday morning, an administration official said.
Meanwhile Rep. Ed Markey, D-Massachusetts, will have a chance to grill executives from five major oil companies on Capitol Hill.

The witness list for Tuesday's hearing of his House Energy and Environment subcommittee includes chief executives of BP, ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell Oil.

Markey, a longtime opponent of offshore drilling and vocal critic of BP's response to the oil disaster, said that the purpose of the hearing is to "establish whether or not BP is the rule or the exception" in terms of its ability to respond to a massive oil spill.
As efforts continued to clean up the oil, BP turned to a new source for help on Monday: actor Kevin Costner.

The company ordered 32 machines designed by Costner, who said they separate oil from water and recycle the crude at the same time.

"This is the key, it's the linchpin to people going back to work. It's certainly a way to fight oil spills in the 21st century," Costner said in an exclusive interview on CNN's AC360.

Louisiana residents will have a chance to talk to experts about their efforts to deal with oil spill damage Tuesday during an open house hosted by the Coast Guard, wildlife, environmental and BP officials.

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astrid
15th June 2010, 08:48
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BP refuses to accept help with oil spill clean up from volunteers

More than 15,000 people have signed up to help clean up the damage from the BP oil spill. However, BP has refused to accept their offer.

Shorty after the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20, 2010 and the spill quickly got out of control, Don Abrams started oilspillvolunteers.com, because so many people wanted to help clean up the oily crisis lapping Gulf shores.

Abrams list of ready, willing and able volunteers has grown from 7,000 to 15,000 people since his recruitment efforts began on April 29.

When Abrams first approached BP with the offer of the helping hand, he had a hard time making contact. Abrams told BP, “We're eager to help you but we're unable to get through to the right people via the toll-free numbers. The automated response I received from your Horizon Call Center indicates that you have "hundreds of people willing to volunteer." We have thousands. “

On May 28, a BP representative finally responded to Abrams with a warning. “Do not attempt oil cleanup work without training and the required safety equipment. The oil waste is a toxic material and can pose a threat... OSHA regulations require that oil spill cleanup personnel have HAZWOPER (Hazardous Waste Operations and Emergency Response) certification. “

Despite Abrams’ assurances that many of his volunteers were experienced and trained, BP still turned his offer down.

According to MSNBC News, BP told Abrams that the company would rather use their own, paid contractors to clean up the oil spill.

Unquote.

Source.....

http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m6d14-BP-blocks-help-with-oil-spill-clean-up-from-volunteers

astrid
15th June 2010, 09:16
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Evidence: BP oil spill is disaster capitalism by criminal elite to depopulate and stop ET disclosure

A pattern of evidence from independent investigative reporters is emerging to suggest that the BP oil “spill” in the Gulf of Mexico may be an intentional “false flag” event in the genre of disaster capitalism, with the “environmental war” purpose of wrecking the environment of the Gulf of Mexico and the eastern United States and causing economic and social hardship to the population, and possible physical evacuation into FEMA camps operated by Halliburton on behalf of an international war crimes network. Halliburton is, by the emerging evidence, itself a prime suspect in the false flag operation.

Key principals who, by preliminary evidence, to be tied to criminal acts associated with insider profiting on the BP oil “spill” operation and with acts of pre-meditated sabotage or criminal negligence that initially caused the oil spill and exacerbated its environmental, economic and social effects, have been tied to previous “false flag” events of disaster capitalism and are operatives of this international war crimes racketeering network.

There is now evidence of intentional disaster capitalism in the BP oil spill, including “foreshadowing drills” by the U.S. agencies and the sabotage or criminal negligence involvement of Halliburton, first broadcast by this reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre and an independent scientist in a special investigative program on Vancouver Coop Radio CFRO 102.7 FM. Examiner readers can access the full summary and listen to the program in the article below.

On June 8, 2010, UFO filmmaker James Fox, broadcasting on the Veritas show, revealed a corporate-governmental private police state that was erasing constitutional guarantees in the BP oil spill impacted area in Grand Isle, LA. Mr. Fox stated, “Basically what’s happening is a complete media blackout. They are arresting people with cameras. They are arresting ... They will even arrest ... I was told off-camera that if they’re caught talking to a reporter, they are going to go to jail.”

A mainstream New Orleans TV news station, WDSU-TV in a video in the article below, confirmed Mr. Fox’s investigative reporting on June 12, 2010.

There is now confirmation of insider trading in BP stock by Goldman Sachs and an insider corporate takeover by Halliburton three weeks prior to the oil spill. On June 9, 2010, investigative reporters Sherri Kane (a former reporter with Fox News) and Leonard G. Horowitz reported that “Three weeks before the "natural gas leak," the George Bush/Dick Cheney 9-11-linked Halliburton company negotiated the purchase of the world's largest oil-spill cleanup firm (Boots & Coots) at the exact time keen observers on Wall Street--financial intelligence agents at Goldman Sachs unloaded 44% of their stock in BP. Goldman Sachs is covertly invested in the Bush-Cheney-linked Halliburton Company according to veteran observers. Goldman Sachs and Halliburton both had massive financial incentives to cause the profitable explosions--the three 9-11 WTC building demolitions, and the most recent ‘accident’ in the Gulf.”

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Source......




http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2010m6d13-Evidence-BP-oil-spill-is-disaster-capitalism-by-criminal-elite-to-depopulate-and-stop-ET-disclosure

astrid
15th June 2010, 09:31
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Oil Spill Relief Wells: Dangers Lurk As BP Drills 18,000 Feet Below The Surface

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- In the chaotic days after the oil rig explosion, BP engineers and federal regulators desperate to plug the blown-out well scrambled to complete plans for a pair of deepwater relief wells that represent the best chance to end the disastrous spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

But BP didn't begin drilling the relief well until 12 days after the start of the disaster as the company and government rushed through environmental reviews, permits and other plans. The government does not require oil companies to have relief well plans in place ahead of time, and the lack of planning cost the company valuable time to get the spill under control.

And the plan ultimately approved by the government offers virtually no details outlining the relief well effort or what dangers might lurk in the depths as the company drills 18,000 feet below the surface - the equivalent of 16 Eiffel Towers. Experts say the relief effort could be exposed to the same risks that caused the original well to blow out in catastrophic fashion, while potentially creating a worse spill if engineers were to accidentally damage the existing well or tear a hole in the undersea oil reservoir.

The gaps in the relief well process mirror other regulatory issues and oversights that have been exposed since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20, killed 11 workers and sent tens of millions of gallons of oil gushing into the Gulf. The Associated Press earlier found that BP's voluminous spill plans for the Gulf and rig were riddled with omissions and glaring errors, leading to criticism that the company has essentially been making things up as it goes. Among the omissions were a lack of a clear plan for a relief well.

BP says the relief well has been a success and ahead of schedule, representing a welcome change for engineers who have been attempting one risky, untested maneuver after another. Relief wells are a more proven method in the industry, and engineers are comfortable and confident in the process.

Engineers plan to dig the well 18,000 feet below the surface and then drill sideways into the blown-out well and plug it with cement. Kent Wells, BP's senior vice president of exploration and production, said this week that more details would be released when the process nears completion in early August.

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source.....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/oil-spill-relief-wells-da_n_610876.html

Gita
15th June 2010, 10:00
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Officials Meet to Discuss Oil/Hurricane Scenario

PANAMA CITY — Regional civilian and military officials gathered Monday to examine the potential threat of a Gulf of Mexico hurricane colliding with the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, with emergency responders discussing how to quickly build a command and control structure to handle that disaster scenario.

Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Monticello, facilitated the joint oil spill and hurricane planning conference, held at the Florida State University Panama City campus, bringing together Federal Emergency Management Agency, NOAA, Coast Guard and Air Force officials with state and local emergency responders to develop a federal preparedness and recovery plan.

That plan would deal with the actions taken before, during and after a gulf storm, a response complicated this summer by the oil spill and its potential impacts on the Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida coastlines. NOAA’s 72-hour nearshore surface oil forecast released early Monday noted that persistent onshore winds have carried the oil slick toward the Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida Panhandle.

Boyd said the conference’s morning discussions made it clear there isn’t a well-defined command and control structure to guide interaction between the military and the state’s emergency operations centers. The Congressman wants a centralized emergency response system, in which county EOCs coordinate with the state’s Division of Emergency Management. That agency, in turn, would communicate with Coast Guard and BP on oil-related issues in the event of a hurricane.

“We know our (emergency response) system in Florida is a gold standard system. We don’t want anything to disrupt it,” Boyd said after the conference by phone.

The DEP has an office during the hurricane season that deals with hazardous waste materials brought onshore or leaked by the force of a storm, Florida Department of Environmental Protection Secretary Mike Sole said during the conference’s morning discussions. If a hurricane brought contaminated oil inland, he said, the DEP would be ready to perform sampling of the water and ensure that affected buildings and land were safe for rehabitation.

Bob Pearce, executive director of the Central Panhandle chapter of the American Red Cross, pointed out that many residents will ride out hurricanes in spite of pleas from officials to evacuate their residences. He suggested emergency officials need to inform people that if they stay home this year, they may be facing oil in addition to the other hazards posed by hurricanes.

The DEP secretary later spoke at a press conference with Boyd, Maj. Gen. Douglas Burnett, adjutant general of the Florida National Guard, and state Emergency Management Director Dave Halstead. Sole said the state was venturing into new territory in its simultaneous preparations for oil spill cleanup and hurricane season, which officially started June 1.

“Candidly, the ability of us to respond to both does exist,” Sole said.

The Florida National Guard has 3,500 soldiers serving overseas in Kuwait and Iraq as part of the Guard’s largest mass scale deployment since World War II, Burnett said. That leaves about 9,000 Guard personnel available statewide for hurricane and oil spill response.

Rear Adm. Steven Day, Coast Guard senior reserve officer-Atlantic area who was activated to provide support to the Coast Guard’s Deepwater Horizon response efforts, could call up about 1,000 reservists, if necessary, in the event of a hurricane to support restoration and recovery efforts.

The Guard mobilized 5,800 members during the 2004 hurricane season, when four hurricanes made landfall in the state in one of the busiest seasons on record, with 3,800 activated in 2005, he said. The Guard has received the necessary training to deal with response to hurricanes and oil spills, with the recent addition of more hazardous materials outfits and additional preparations in light of the oil spill.

Boyd said he will take action items from the conference to the president’s office to determine the appropriate federal response. A follow-up meeting has been scheduled between the Coast Guard and the state emergency management team this week on command and control issues, he added.

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Source (http://www.newsherald.com/news/panama-84655-boyd-plan.html)

Gita
15th June 2010, 10:08
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40 million people in Gulf oil spill region to be “evacuated” by military, sources say
By Jane Burgermeister

The US military is preparing to “evacuate” 40 million people in the region of the Gulf oil spill under the pretext of toxicity, according to sources.

40 million people could only be accomodated in the notorious FEMA camps, built around the country and resembling concentration camps or prisons and with on site incinerators.

Although this move to camps appears to be being sold to people as only temporary, there is strong evidence that the oil spill was started deliberately in order to implement martial law and find an excuse to put people in FEMA prison camps as part of a Bilderberg agenda to take of the USA.

This is a report:
“Info from an Oil Industry guy in Texas :

Gulf oil spill cannot be stopped using any conventional method as the Well Riser Pipe has become loose in the drill hole and oil is gushing out from around the base of the pipe. and the casing pipe has become fractured from pumping high pressure mud during the top kill process. Other geological reports are now surfacing that there are several other very large leaks some distance from the well head as the sea bottom has been fractured from the high pressure (2200psi) of 80K barrels a day seeping horizontally into layers of surrounding strata.

There is currently a major news black out over the entire area from New Orleans to Florida, but my sources tell me the following is currently in the staging process for the following:
Military is mobilizing for an all out evacuation of the entire region approximately 40M people due to extreme toxicity of the methane, hydrogen sulfide and hydrogen cyanide, other reports indicate the only solution that can possibly contain the main leak is a Nuke placed down the second relief Well sometime in September. Remember: I did tell you that was what it would take!.

Big problem is where to put the displaced persons until they can effect a fix.

Furthermore if the seabed is already fractured the Nuke could cause the situation to become untenable if it isn’t perfectly executed and really no one knows exactly how much explosive force is required and not harm the cap over the oil field which stretches from Venezuela to Utah.

Moreover: BP and Transocean will be filing bankruptcy within a couple of weeks leaving the American people to foot the bill which is expected to reach half a Trillion Dollars. BP has already spent 2 Billion and US Coast Guard and Navy another 3 Billion and that is nothing compared to the clean up if this goes on until the Oct or Nov.

This could push the US over the brink as there are no sources available to borrow any additional money.

My source tell me that If the seabed is fractured then all gulf coast drilling will be suspended.. period and that will force the price of energy and gas to double world wide within a few months.

There is a lot more but Ill save you from the worst case scenario regarding the final option. Its unthinkable if it goes wrong!
I know this sounds a bit extreme but my information is rock solid.

(end of info)

This only appears to confirm what people like Lindsey Williams, & others, have already stated.

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Source (http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/40-million-people-in-gulf-oil-spill-region-to-be-evacuated-by-military-rumours-say/)

Gita
15th June 2010, 12:03
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What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf: Oil Volcano Pressure Too Strong For Containment

It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control.


What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf


What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration.


They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.


Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below.


The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away.


Should what the scientists who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and everything on it.


You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to shut up.


Please share with as many as you can.

--Dr. James P. Wickstrom

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/05/05/learning/oilslickLN/oilslickLN-blogSpan.jpg


Summary of What is Happening


The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day.


The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.


As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure.


The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months.


The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of.


Summary of Expectations


At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.


The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.


This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.


The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.


The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.


Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.


(End of scientists information release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service

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Source (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19730)

Gita
15th June 2010, 12:08
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Obama sees light ahead for oil-damaged Gulf Coast

THEODORE, Ala. – In a newly optimistic tone, President Barack Obama promised Monday that "things are going to return to normal" along the stricken Gulf Coast and the region's fouled waters will be in even better shape than before the catastrophic BP oil spill.

He declared Gulf seafood safe to eat and said his administration is redoubling inspections and monitoring to make sure it stays that way. And his White House said Monday it had wrested apparent agreement from BP PLC to set up an independent, multibillion-dollar compensation fund for people and businesses suffering from the spill's effects.

He declared, "I am confident that we're going to be able to leave the Gulf Coast in better shape than it was before."

That pledge was reminiscent of George W. Bush's promise to rebuild the region "even better and stronger" than before Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Bush could not make good on that promise, and Obama did not spell out how he would fulfill his.

With Obama hoping to convince a frightened Gulf Coast and a skeptical nation that he is in command, he is marshaling the tools at a president's disposal: a two-day visit via Air Force One, helicopter and boat in the region, a prime-time speech Tuesday night from the symbolically important stage of the Oval Office and a face-to-face White House showdown Wednesday with the executives of the oil company that leased the rig that exploded April 20 and led to the leak of millions of gallons of coast-devastating crude.

From an enormous waterside staging facility here, one of 17 where cleanup crews ready themselves and equipment to attack the spill, Obama mixed his optimism about the ultimate result with warnings that the recovery could take a while.

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Continued here. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100614/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_obama)

Eric J (Viking)
15th June 2010, 12:13
This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.


The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.


The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.


Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.


(End of scientists information release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service

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Source (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19730)

I wonder if we can find out what time scale we have before the above happens??? :confused:

viking

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 16:15
I looked around a bit, but it is getting tough to know what has and hasn't been posted before. So, if this is repeat stuff, please excuse.

Like other I listened to the Lindsey Williams/AJones interview. Made notes, etc.

But first, an observation:
Someone, on one of these threads said they thought Williams was just using his time on AJ's show to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). I'm sorry, but just when has AJ ever passed up an opportunity to do just that? Seemed to me that Williams was very sedate, compared to AJ.

Now, here are the figures Williams stated were obtained from readings taken by the EPA, during the weekend of 12,13 June. Note: these are measurements taken in the atmosphere.
Volatile organic compounds coming out with the crude oil:
Hydrogen Sulfide:
Allowable: 5-10 ppb (Parts Per Billion)
Tested at: 1,200 ppb

Benzine:
Safe EPA level: 0-4 ppb,
Current released: 3,000 ppb
Known to cause: leukemia, cancer, confusion tremors, bone marrow damage, weakened immune system Damage to kidneys, lungs, brain.

Methylene Chloride:
Safe EPA : 61 ppb,
Tested levels: 3,000-3,500 ppb

Corexit 9500: toxic at 2.6 ppb (God knows)
Since I hadn't seen them repeated anywhere, I thought I'd repeat them.
_______________________________________________

Some new stuff in just a minute or two. composing now.

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 16:49
I began this as a PM to Bill R. as a "backgrounder" for the questions thread. Changed my mind and decided I'd just post it here, and PM a link to him.
_____________________________________

The following link leads to a post from a place called "The Oil Drum"
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967

Several reasons I point this one out to you:
It appears to be both intelligent, and well documented.
Doesn't appear to have any scare tactics used in presentation. (the facts are scary enough)
It looks like very good basic detective work, using what BP has done, what BP has said, to draw a fairly convincing picture of what is really happening below the well head.

To save some time, as I know you can't possibly have enough to read on this already http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif (sorry).

The first 20% will no doubt be review, for everyone. He does deliver a good summation as to why Top Kill, Top Cap, Top Anything didn't and won't work. Where the good info/detective work begins is after a heading:
"What does this mean?"


The well bore casings rely on the support that is created by the cementing phase of well construction.Which was a complete failure, before this well head blew up.

It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn't leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad, same dynamics.

It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks "down hole". I'm sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.

Some details on "whats goin' on down below". (Calm yerself, Gita. I'm not talkin' porn, here.)

A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons.
There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the "system" including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post (http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6587)is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil "Product" rushing through it.

There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it's way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?...no one really knows....However now?...there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation.

This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer's immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?...we are beginning to the results of the well's total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore.

The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn't hold up anything and isn't meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself. The very large steel connectors of the initial well head "spud" stabbed in to the sea floor. The Bop literally sits on top of the pipe and never touches the sea bed, it wouldn't do anything in way of support if it did.

After several tens of feet the seabed does begin to support the well connection laterally (side to side) you couldn't put a 450 ton piece of machinery on top of a 100' tall pipe "in the air" and subject it to the side loads caused by the ocean currents and expect it not to bend over...unless that pipe was very much larger than the machine itself, which you all can see it is not. The well's piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over...and it is now showing signs of doing just that....falling over.

If you have been watching the live feed cams you may have noticed that some of the ROVs are using an inclinometer...and inclinometer is an instrument that measures "Incline" or tilt. The BOP is not supposed to be tilting...and after the riser clip off operation it has begun to.

Then he goes into a bit explaining that the entire structure, beneath the well head, may be in complete shambles. Funny we aren't hearing this, isn't it?
The well bore casings rely on the support that is created by the cementing phase of well construction. Just like if you have many hands holding a pipe up you could put some weight on the top and the many hands could hold the pipe and the weight on top easily...but if there were no hands gripping and holding the pipe?...all the weight must be held up by the pipe alone. The series of connections between the sections of casings are not designed to hold up the immense weight of the BOP without all the "hands" that the cementing provides and they will eventually buckle and fail when stressed beyond their design limits.

These are clear and present dangers to the battered subsea safety structure (bop and lmrp) which is the only loose cork on this well we have left. The immediate (first 1,000 feet) of well structure that remains is now also undoubtedly compromised. However.....as bad as that is?...it is far from the only possible problems with this very problematic well. There were ongoing troubles with the entire process during the drilling of this well. There were also many comprises made by BP IMO which may have resulted in an overall weakened structure of the entire well system all the way to the bottom plug which is over 12,000 feet deep.

Problems with the cementing procedure which was done by Haliburton and was deemed as “was against our best practices.” by a Haliburton employee on April 1st weeks before the well blew out.

From here on, he provides some summation, his opinion of what he sees, and a long list of sources, citations, and links. I do not get the idea this is just "off the top of his head", but well researched. Link's at the top, and the whole thing is well worth the read, IMO.

Perhaps some of this can be helpful in what the discussion should really be about,
Fred

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 17:19
Problems with the cementing procedure which was done by Haliburton and was deemed as “was against our best practices.” (at BP's insistence - fred)by a Haliburton employee on April 1st weeks before the well blew out.
What it looks like is going on here then...

The other two holes being drilled, have an ever-increasing job ahead of them.

If the well casing is compromised, or destroyed, as hinted at, then; once they reach the original hole, the job will be to pump concrete in from the bottom. But it matters not what you plug this with, a plug is a plug, and the pressure will simply seek a source of less resistance. This means they are going to have to:
Fill in the original hole, Cracks in the casing, and All of the cracks in the earth connected to the original well completely!Else this leak will simply flow through another avenue into the Gulf, only then we'll have no method of reaching it. (ugh!)

Should this happen, you will probably hear a huge cry to simply "nuke the whole thing" and be done.
What I don't hear discussed, other than it is an "unknown", is where they're attempting this.

A nuclear blast whether above or below ground is a very different animal, in term of the compression wave. Air and earth are both "compressible" items. Means they will absorb much of the shock of the explosion. For all practical purposes the compression factor of water is zero.

I hope someone a whole lot smarter'n me is calculating the geological effects this will have on the surrounding structure and wells, ahead of time.
____________________________________

Lastly, I want to repeat something I posted elsewhere. About this whole "committee" which is tasked with "calculating the flow" coming out of the well: It IS a complete farce!

For one, BP has had flow readings on this well, from day 1. (If you think they'd drill a well, without knowing the exact yield, I want some of what you're smokin')

With 12 ROV's in the water, (at least 6 of which appeared to be doing nothing when I looked this morning (http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605)) it is a simple matter to stick a flow meter in the oil stream for a few seconds, anytime they wish.
Pi x R (10.5 in.) squared, times the flow in inches per second will give you an exact flow figure!!

No guesses, no trouble. All this, "Gee, we just don't know, maybe a committee should attempt a guess" crap, is just that... crap. And if that isn't enough, you don't hear one govt. employee, or newsman bringing up this obvious fact.

Fred

HORIZONS
15th June 2010, 18:06
Weather 101: Hurricanes & the oil spill

The 2010 hurricane forecast calls for an above average year for hurricanes and tropical storms. El Nino has weakened which means less wind shear in the tropics. Also, ocean temperatures are running 4 degrees warmer than average. Warm water is critical for storm development.

The oil spill in the gulf is small compared to a hurricane. Some hurricanes have been almost as large as the entire Gulf of Mexico itself. The turbulence caused by a cyclone would most likely disperse the oil but depending on landfall, the oil could get washed ashore, or get pulled out farther into the Gulf.

In other words, the oil spill itself will have virtually no impact on a hurricane, but the hurricane will have both a good and bad impact with the oil it interacts with.

Ed Buckner explains more and notes some more memorable hurricanes to affect Arkansas in this edition of Weather 101.

http://www.todaysthv.com/weather/wx101_story.aspx?storyid=106366&catid=320

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 18:18
Weather 102 ;):
Ya know, if the people running HAARP ever had thoughts of "doing some good", this would be a very good year to push any hurricane entering the Gulf, back out into the Atlantic.

astrid
15th June 2010, 19:46
This looks very concerning , a SWARM of earthquakes in SO CAL......

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html#listtop

http://rense.com/general91/qk.htm

I'm thinking this has to be related to the happenings in the Gulf....

Gita
15th June 2010, 22:19
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BP hires private security contractors to guard ‘black water’


If they had hired Blackwater, the firm would have had a particularly appropriate sounding name for the job: guarding tar-stained beaches.

In their latest eyebrow-raising PR move, multinational oil giant BP has enlisted private security contractors to keep onlookers away from oil cleanup sites. While the firm they hired apparently isn't Blackwater (the private security firm Blackwater changed their name to Xe Services after a spate of killings in Baghdad, and has now put itself up for sale), they certainly seem to have 'black water' in their sights.

Wired's "Danger Room" blog dubbed BP's decision to hire private mercenaries in the Gulf "one of the bestest public relations moves ever."

The blog notes that BP's move recalls bungled decisionmaking in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, when the US Department of Homeland Security -- and some very wealthy homeowners -- turned to private security contractors to protect their property in the wake of the disaster.

"This wouldn’t be the first time a private security firm made an appearance in a Gulf disaster," Wired's Adam Rawnsley writes. "When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the Department of Homeland Security and a number of private firms, fearful of reported widespread violence and chaos, turned to private security contractors like Blackwater and ArmorGroup International to protect their property."
According to reports, the firm hired is named Talon Security.


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Continued here. (http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0615/bp-hires-private-security-contractors-guard-oily-beaches/)

Gita
15th June 2010, 22:23
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Mysterious illness plagues Gulf oil disaster workers

SAN ANTONIO -- For weeks now, local hospitals have tracked patients with suspicious symptoms coming in from the gulf coast. Doctors are having trouble distinguishing it from the flu .

"What makes it challenging is that patients show up with non-specific symptoms. Headaches, fatigue, problems with memory and concentration, upset stomach," lists Dr. Claudia Miller at UT Health Science Center.

The illness is called "TILT," or Toxicant-Induced Loss of Tolerance. Patients lose tolerance to household products, medication, or even food after being exposed to chemicals, like burning oil, toxic fumes, or dispersants from the spill.

"Things like diesel fuel, exposure to fragrances, cleaning agents that never bothered them before suddenly bother them," adds Dr. Miller.

TILT has been difficult to track because symptoms are similar to the flu. Currently, Dr. Miller is educating primary care doctors on how to spot and treat the illness before it gets worse. Though it's not contagious, the best cure right now is staying away from affected areas.

"Be sure to wear protective equipment and stay out of areas with smell, if [you] feel sick," Dr. Miller says. "The smells are usually chemicals that can make them ill."

Those who are most at risk are pregnant women and patients with prior medical problems, like asthma. To see how susceptible you may be to the disease,

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Source (http://www.woai.com/content/health/story/Mysterious-illness-plagues-Gulf-oil-disaster/PNcpQeot20qXs_L5nfSR4w.cspx)

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 22:27
Relax Astrid. There really isn't any correlation between the Gulf and the West Coast, as this map shows:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/135095/US-FAULT-LINES.jpg

In fact, there is a buffer zone, running top to bottom through the US which has no real seismic activity at all.

Gita
15th June 2010, 22:31
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BP credit rating slashed as oil spill costs mount

• Fitch ratings agency concerned about short-term costs
• BP rating cut from AA to BBB
• Head of BP America to appear before Congress today
• Fitch thinks dividend could be cut

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/12/1276345380615/Thick-oil-from-the-BP-Dee-006.jpg
Costs from the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill continue to escalate. Photograph: Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images

BP's credit rating has been slashed by Fitch to just two notches above junk status, as the potential cost of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill continues to escalate.

Fitch cut its rating on BP from AA to BBB this morning, a day after US politicians demanded the company deposits $20bn (£13.58bn) in an escrow account to cover the cost of the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

The ratings agency said it was concerned that the balance between long-term and near-term cost payments would become "skewed much more heavily towards the near-term than previously anticipated" if the escrow account was created. Fitch also said it was concerned that BP will find it hard to access the capital markets for funding while the full cost of the oil leak remains unclear.

"In addition, Fitch would be surprised if BP did not suspend quarterly cash dividend payments until the operational and financial impact of the incident is clearer," it added.

Fitch's downgrade could make it more expensive for BP to borrow, especially if the other ratings agencies follow its lead. The company has around $5bn of cash reserves, and has spent more than $1.6bn fighting the spill.

It came just a few hours before the head of BP America appears before the House of Representatives committee on energy and commerce, along with four other big oil firms. ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell are expected to distance themselves from BP by insisting that their own methods are safer.

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Continued here. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/15/bp-credit-rating-slashed-oil-spill-costs)

Fredkc
15th June 2010, 22:33
The illness is called "TILT,"

Can't you just see the President of BP, and Gov. Haley Barber making a joint news conference telling people,
"Oh TILT isn't a big problem, really. Just make sure you always keep plenty of coins in your pocket for the pinball machines."

Sorry, cheap joke. Had to be done.

Gita
15th June 2010, 22:38
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Oil sands output set for takeoff, CAPP predicts

New projects to boost production as they return from backburner


CALGARY - New oilsands projects and investments have changed Canada's long-range supply picture for the better, according to a new industry report.

The emergence of several new players in Alberta's oilsands will lift overall crude production between 2020 and 2025, a period that wasn't expected to see any production gains in last year's forecast, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers said Wednesday.

"This improved outlook for the industry coincides with the new investments in oilsands projects by major Chinese companies," the association said in its 2010 to 2025 forecast.

Sinopec Corp. and PetroChina, both state-owned corporations, injected more than $2 billion into the flagging oilsands in 2009, buying stakes in Athabasca Oil Sands Corp.' s and Total SA's Northern Lights projects.

Both undeveloped projects had been languishing in an industry hard-hit by dropping crude prices and a global recession dampening demand.

More robust commodity prices and a less volatile investment climate in the latter half of 2009 pulled a number of projects off the shelf and back into action, said CAPP spokesman Greg Stringham.

This year alone, investment in Alberta's oilsands is expected to jump by $2 billion to $13 billion, up from $11 billion last year. More recently, China Investment Corp. invested $817 million in a project with Penn West Energy Trust, and Sinopec paid $4.65 billion US for a stake in Syncrude Canada, the largest oilsands operation in the world.

Oil prices have trended upward this year, and jumped three per cent, or $2.39, to close at $74.38 US a barrel Wednesday. The surge came after reports of strong demand from China and a 1.8-million-barrel draw last week on inventories in the United States.

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Gita
15th June 2010, 22:42
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US oil firms 'unprepared' for major offshore disaster

Major oil firms drilling off the US coastline are as unprepared as BP for a large-scale spill, the head of a Congressional panel has said.

Edward Markey told the House energy and commerce sub-committee Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell all have identical response plans to BP.

BP's US chief Lamar McKay and four other oil bosses gave evidence amid accusations BP took shortcuts.

President Barack Obama is to make a TV address later from the White House.

He will use the prime-time speech, at 2000 (0000 GMT), to outline the next steps his administration will take against the spill.

Those are reported to include new steps to restore the Gulf Coast ecosystem and explicit demands to ensure BP fully compensates those affected.

This week, the BBC is assessing the impact of the Louisiana oil spill. To see the scale of the new deep water drilling rigs in one of the world's biggest and deepest off-shore fields, join BBC World News in Brazil on Tuesday with Paulo Cabral.

The speech will be delivered from the Oval Office, a setting reserved for the most sombre and important moments in US national life.

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Gita
15th June 2010, 22:46
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6 days before explosion, BP engineer called Deepwater Horizon a 'nightmare well'

WASHINGTON - BP took measures to cut costs in the weeks before the catastrophic blowout in the Gulf of Mexico as it dealt with one problem after another, prompting a BP engineer to describe the doomed rig as a "nightmare well," according to internal documents released Monday.

The comment by BP engineer Brian Morel came in an email April 14, six days before the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion that killed 11 people and has sent tens of millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf in the nation's worst environmental disaster.

The email was among dozens of internal documents released by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which is investigating the explosion and its aftermath.

In a letter to BP chief executive Tony Hayward, Reps. Henry Waxman and Bart Stupak, both Democrats, noted at least five questionable decisions BP made in the days leading up to the explosion.
"The common feature of these five decisions is that they posed a trade-off between cost and well safety," said Waxman and Stupak. Waxman chairs the energy panel while Stupak heads a subcommittee on oversight and investigations.

"Time after time, it appears that BP made decisions that increased the risk of a blowout to save the company time or expense," the lawmakers wrote in the 14-page letter to Hayward. "If this is what happened, BP's carelessness and complacency have inflicted a heavy toll on the Gulf, its inhabitants, and the workers on the rig."

The letter, supplemented by 61 footnotes and dozens of documents, outlines a series of questions Hayward can expect when he comes before Stupak's subcommittee on Thursday.

The hearing will be Hayward's first appearance before a congressional committee since the explosion and sinking of the BP-operated Deepwater Horizon rig. BP America President Lamar McKay and other officials represented the company at earlier hearings.

The letter by Waxman and Stupak focuses on details such as the design of the well, saying that the company apparently chose a riskier option among two possibilities to provide a barrier to the flow of gas in space surrounding steel tubes in the well.

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Fredkc
15th June 2010, 22:48
Edward Markey told the House energy and commerce sub-committee Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell all have identical response plans to BP.
Gita;
I wonder if all their plans include what to do with all the Gulf Coast walruses, like BP's plan. ;)

Gita
15th June 2010, 22:53
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President Obama: BP Spill Is An 'Assault'

Barack Obama has insisted that BP will be pursued over the oil spill "assault" making landfall on Florida's pristine shores.

We will be making sure BP pays for the damage it has caused," the president said to rousing applause from military personnel at Pensacola Naval Air Station.

Mr Obama said that although only a fraction of the 27,000 national guardsman ordered to help have been deployed so far, thousands more will soon help thwart the slick.

"Because this isn't just an environmental disaster, for many families it is an economic disaster," he said.

Mr Obama linked the environmental challenge America faces to its struggle with ongoing wars it is fighting abroad.

"This is an assault on our shores and we are going to fight back with everything we've got... we will be fighting back with the greatest military in the world," he said. :blink::eek:

"I am going to speak to the nation tonight about this," he said.

Mr Obama will give his first speech from the Oval Office to the American people over the issue facing the country and is expected to talk further about BP's responsibilities.

It comes as a poll by Associated Press-GfK found that 52% of respondents disapprove of his handling of the spill and 83% show disapproval of BP's role since the April 20 rig explosion.

Meanwhile, his officials are urging that a multi-billion dollar oil spill fund is taken out of BP's hands because of both expediency and liquidity concerns.

"The best way to prevail on BP is to take the claims process away from BP," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.

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Gita
15th June 2010, 22:58
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Oil estimate raised to 35,000-60,000 barrels a day :eek:

(CNN) -- Government officials Tuesday increased the estimate of oil flowing into the Gulf to between 35,000 and 60,000 barrels (1.5 million to 2.5 million gallons) per day, up to 50 percent more than previously estimated.

The government's previous estimate, issued last week, was 20,000 to 40,000 barrels per day. The change was "based on updated information and scientific assessments," and was reached by Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar, and Chair of the National Incident Command's Flow Rate Technical Group Marcia McNutt, the Deepwater Horizon Incident Joint Information Center said.

"The improved estimate is based on more and better data that is now available and that helps increase the scientific confidence in the accuracy of the estimate," it said.

Alberto Alisedo, a member of the flow rate technical group, said scientists reached the consensus after a three-hour conference call on Monday and a 10-hour meeting on Sunday of the group in Seattle, Washington.

BP is working to contain more of the leak at the sea floor: the Lower Marine Riser Package cap now in place can capture as many as 18,000 barrels of oil per day. A second containment option could expand that capacity to 20,000-28,000 barrels per day, the information center said, and BP said Tuesday its response "is not determined by flow rate estimates."

"Our primary concern is to capture as much oil as possible," BP spokesman Toby Odone told CNN after the new estimates were published. "We are building options to contain higher volumes of oil."


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Gita
15th June 2010, 23:06
Gita;
I wonder if all their plans include what to do with all the Gulf Coast walruses, like BP's plan. ;)

Who knows King Pengy!! :)

What on earth happened to your Avatar? Bring back back the penguin. :cheer2:

HORIZONS
16th June 2010, 00:45
CARBON TAX!!! Well, this will get voted through now: "He (the President) is also expected to push Congress to pass comprehensive energy and climate legislation — the president supports a tax on carbon emissions as part of the plan, as well as outline steps being taken to ease the effects of the disaster on Gulf coast residents and revamp national agencies that oversee the oil industry." http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127862326

Etherios
16th June 2010, 06:07
Just a second ... can anyone plz explain why obama and gs and bp etc are still trying to make money out of this? Even if the oil stoped right now. The toxics and oil that will be washed ashore really really soon... the gases the death that will follow.

USA will be hurt the most, all its needed is a big hurricane and all the south USA will be a toxic zone of death. This will bring down the global economy wont it? So why on earth are they still trying to make money out of this? It will take so long to truly effect the EU and Asia that i dont even start to imagine how this depopulation plan will work.... Yes it will kill of almost all the seas in the next years thus reducing the oxygen etc etc... i am really puzzled dont these ppl realize what they are doing?

This will be the downfall of the USA we know. i am sure that Martial Law will follow and economy collapse.

Anyone understands the big plan cause lately i cant....

Gita
16th June 2010, 07:36
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Cuba says preparing for BP oil spill

Gulf currents may carry BP oil to the island

* Venezuela has sent spill-fighting experts to Cuba
By Nelson Acosta

HAVANA, June 15 (Reuters) - Cuba is making preparations to protect its coast as the BP (BP.L)(BP.N) oil spill continues spreading through the Gulf of Mexico, Cuban officials said on Tuesday.

They offered few specifics about the preparations, but said Venezuela, Cuba's oil-rich ally, has sent a team of spill-fighting experts to help the communist-run island.

Millions of gallons of oil have gushed into the gulf in the 57-day-old spill and fouled 120 miles (190 km) of U.S. coastline.

Patches of oil reportedly have been seen as close as 100 miles (160 km) northwest of Cuba and some forecasts have said gulf currents will inevitably carry the oil to Cuba, which is 90 miles (145 km) south of Key West, Florida.

International scientists say Cuba's waters and coastline are relatively pristine because of the lack of development common in many other countries.

Its northwest coast is a feeding and breeding ground for many species, including migratory sea turtles, sharks and manatees in danger of extinction.

"We are preparing to do everything we can, and of course to receive the help of those who have experience in confronting (oil spills)," Vice Minister of Defense Gen. Ramon Espinosa told reporters at a conference on disaster preparedness.

He said Cuba has suffered small spills from oil tankers, but nothing of the magnitude of the BP spill.


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Gita
16th June 2010, 07:42
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Obama’s Gulf Spill Speech (FULL TEXT)

The full text of President Obama’s Gulf oil spill address, as prepared for delivery, appears below.
* * * * *
Good evening. As we speak, our nation faces a multitude of challenges. At home, our top priority is to recover and rebuild from a recession that has touched the lives of nearly every American. Abroad, our brave men and women in uniform are taking the fight to al Qaeda wherever it exists. And tonight, I’ve returned from a trip to the Gulf Coast to speak with you about the battle we’re waging against an oil spill that is assaulting our shores and our citizens.

On April 20th, an explosion ripped through BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, about forty miles off the coast of Louisiana. Eleven workers lost their lives. Seventeen others were injured. And soon, nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean, oil began spewing into the water.

Because there has never been a leak of this size at this depth, stopping it has tested the limits of human technology. That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation’s best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge – a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation’s Secretary of Energy. Scientists at our national labs and experts from academia and other oil companies have also provided ideas and advice.

As a result of these efforts, we have directed BP to mobilize additional equipment and technology. In the coming days and weeks, these efforts should capture up to 90% of the oil leaking out of the well. This is until the company finishes drilling a relief well later in the summer that is expected to stop the leak completely.

Already, this oil spill is the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced. And unlike an earthquake or a hurricane, it is not a single event that does its damage in a matter of minutes or days. The millions of gallons of oil that have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico are more like an epidemic, one that we will be fighting for months and even years.


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Gita
16th June 2010, 07:48
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Enough of This Crap


Reports have been coming out of the Gulf for days about British Petroleum blocking access to beaches and animal-cleaning stations, in some instances using private Blackwater-style mercenaries to do so. Journalists as well as citizens have been thwarted in their attempts to see for themselves the extent of the damage being done by the runaway Deepwater Horizon disaster.


Know what I'd like to see happen? I would like to see a thousand people, ten thousand, a hundred thousand, just show the hell up down there and demand access. Citizens and reporters alike, just get down there, link arms, and walk to the beaches and the marshlands with digital cameras and cell phones for instantaneous blogging of what they see, hear and smell. Pile into as many rented, borrowed and begged boats as can be mustered and plow out there to the scene of the crime. Dare the gendarmes to stop us.


One of two things would happen: either the people would break through those unconscionable corporate barriers and show the world what is really going on in the Gulf, or the forces BP has arrayed against the truth would react with violence, which would tell us everything we need to know about what is happening, and would be enough to break that God damned criminal corporation finally and forever. Either way, there would be thousands of people down there to chronicle what is happening, a ready-made army of volunteers who can also pitch in as best they can and begin the epic process of trying to undo what has been done.


Sounds crazy? Maybe, but it is the kind of direct action that has been missing from our national narrative, not just in the Gulf but all over. What would happen if a million people marched on Wall Street, parked themselves in the road, and demanded that every "too big to fail" institution be torn down a brick at a time? What would happen if a million people parked themselves on Pennsylvania Avenue and refused to leave until American military forces are removed from Iraq, as promised?


Big stuff would happen, friends. The kind of stuff we'd be proud to tell our grandchildren about. Yes, Virginia, there is a We The People, and in the second decade on the 21st century, we rose up righteous and turned the tide away from this corporate war-machine oligarchy whose seemingly overwhelming power and masterful media manipulation put us all to sleep...but only for a while. Yes, Virginia, there was a way, and we found it, and we did it.


A very old friend of mine recently described President Obama as a "narcotic," and it was as spot-on an analysis as I have ever heard. Millions upon millions of people were mobilized during the psychotic tenure of George W. Bush; we knew what was wrong, we knew why it was wrong, and we summoned the care and courage to throw ourselves into a determined effort to bugger his deranged intentions. We failed far more often than we succeeded, but at a minimum, we were on the move.

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Gita
16th June 2010, 08:16
Just a second ... can anyone plz explain why obama and gs and bp etc are still trying to make money out of this? Even if the oil stoped right now. The toxics and oil that will be washed ashore really really soon... the gases the death that will follow.

USA will be hurt the most, all its needed is a big hurricane and all the south USA will be a toxic zone of death. This will bring down the global economy wont it? So why on earth are they still trying to make money out of this? It will take so long to truly effect the EU and Asia that i dont even start to imagine how this depopulation plan will work.... Yes it will kill of almost all the seas in the next years thus reducing the oxygen etc etc... i am really puzzled dont these ppl realize what they are doing?

This will be the downfall of the USA we know. i am sure that Martial Law will follow and economy collapse.

Anyone understands the big plan cause lately i cant....


Read this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2812-Latest-Updates-(Please-only-post-TEXT-or-PHOTOS-here)&p=27330&viewfull=1#post27330) Etherios - it may shed some light on your questions. :thumb:

Gita
16th June 2010, 08:29
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Ehhhh... BP A Zero?

Probably not, but that's not the problem.

Let's run the numbers. The Government just said that the amount being ejected from the well is somewhere between 35,000 and 60,000 bbls per day.

Now let's look at the numbers, and analyze this strictly on that basis.

The minimum fine is $1,000/bbl spilled. But if negligence can be shown, the fine can be as high as $4,300/bbl.

This is strictly for the fine for spilling the oil, and excludes other considerations (damages, cleanup costs, potential criminal liability and of course whatever civil liability juries come at them with for all sorts of litigation.)

At $4,300/bbl we're looking at a fine of $150 - $258 million per day, and after today's hearings it is probably reasonable to assume that BP will get tagged for "negligence" (at best.)

We're 50-some days into this; that works out to somewhere between $7.5 and $13 billion in fines alone thus far. If we presume they can shut the well down in the middle of August, we're looking at another 50 days (roughly) before that happens, leaving the total fines in the neighborhood of $15-25 billion.

The company, like most multi-nationals, is partitioned. That is, BP is a conglomerate with legal and financial firewalls (physical ones) between subsidiaries.

The total value of their US-based assets is estimated somewhere around $90 billion. On a 12-month trailing basis they have produced $265 billion in revenue with an EBIDTA of $38.8 billion and a net income attributed to common shares of $20 billion - globally.

Taken that way, and expecting complex litigation around any fine and other litigation, the payout time would be expressed in years, not months. As such at first blush the fines and other exposure doesn't look like it will be enough - even under an adverse scenario - to zero the company.

BUT - will BP let things go that far and contaminate their global earnings with this claim?

More to the point, why should they?

Leave the morals/ethics out of this - this is, and will remain, a business decision.

Were I sitting in the White House contemplating my speech this evening I wouldn't be so cocksure that I can bludgeon the company into submission.

There is real danger here for the Obama administration. If it appears that the fines and litigation losses will come within reasonable reach of their US assets they may well be better off to draw down the curtain and place the US subsidiary into Chapter 11 - then let the creditors - including litigants - fight it out for the scraps in a restructuring. They come out with a good part of the liability (perhaps all or most of the fines!) discharged, and voila!

Want to bet they aren't thinking about it?


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Gita
16th June 2010, 08:33
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Alabama mayor: Domestic violence 'up 320%' since oil spill


Mayor Stan Wright of Bayou La Batre, Alabama, says people in his state are having a "rough" time.

He claims domestic violence "went up 320%" and calls to the police have also gone up 110% a day since the start of the spill.

He expects the clean up operation on the Gulf Coast will "go on for years".


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pyrangello
16th June 2010, 12:33
ON coast to coast radio last night there is a gentleman named Richard Hoagland, He stated as follows: The depth they drilled was 4 1/2 miles deep or 22,500 ft, the pressure of the oil coming out is 100,000 psi natural oil pressure out of the reserve and we do not have enough experience to cap such a well in the event of an accident because of the depth and no previous experience in this type of situation. As a result, hang on , this drilling went thru several shelf plates in the gulf and there are now confirmed gps signals from ships in the gulf that the gulf floor is rising -length of rise 15-20 miles long/unknown width. Assuming it is gas raising the floor if it was to blow, goodbye Florida from a tsunami. It's not in the immediate weeks but months are a concern. His remedy was to drill 15-20 relief holes to relieve pressure.

This thing is leaking 100,000 barrels a day or 4 million gallons a day. Take a look at the news reports , there treating this like hey all we have to do is cap this thing and then the major portion of this is to clean up the mess. Yet when the reports first came out , BP said it was 5000 barrels a day, they would not allow private companies in to estimate amount of oil leaking, US government instituted a no fly zone over gulf so no one could get photos I would say (out of site out of mind right) . Then the reports from the news were 20,000 barrels a day, then 40,000 barrels and now last night they are reporting 60,000 barrels a day. Eventually the truth will come out.

WE have a 3 fold problem going , potential hurricane bringing the oil inland, gulf floor raising due to unknown shelf pressure, and an oil slick that need to be captured and processed. Richard did say since this type of pressure and leak has never been harnessed before, there is a chance it may just have to continue to leak untuil the pressure equalizes.

If you have never prayed before , I would say it's a good time to start , were going to need all the help we can get . Here is a reply from my buddy in louisiana,


OK, the 1st relief well/wells won’t be complete until August maybe, & I agree that there is a chance it won’t work. In the mean time, we are in Hurricane Season here & if anyone know anything about what these storms do with the gulf waters then you know it will distribute the oils & other contaminates all over the southern part of the US, maybe as far north as Memphis & point northward from that depending how strong the storm is.



I hate to even think about all of the devastation that could come from all of this, even if they were to stop the leak tomorrow, with the hold on offshore drilling that the idiot in the white-house has ordered, the coastal states are in deep trouble as TX, LA, MS, & AL are extremely dependant on the oil & fishing industry not to mention the tourism that the gulf coast produces. We will have job losses in the 100,000’s, fuel prices will skyrocket, the cost of fruits, vegetables, natural gas, other agricultural goods will be in short supply, some very large ports in & around the gulf will be closed, this can go on & on. Economically the US will be shattered. With all of this happening, I don’t want to even think what might happen if the countries that hate the US try something such as invade.



at this moment, the problem is so large that man won’t be able to solve it alone. If you’re not praying, you need to start for more than one reason!

Gita
16th June 2010, 13:20
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BP breaks ground on controversial B.C. Rockies project as oil gushes in Gulf


FERNIE, B.C. - As oil continues to gush from a BP (NYSE:BP) wellhead in the Gulf of Mexico, critics say the company has quietly broken ground on a controversial project in B.C.'s Rocky Mountains.

Opponents of the Mist Mountain project say they were surprised to find that BP Canada, an arm of the BP group of companies, began construction earlier this month on an exploratory well for its coalbed methane project near Fernie, B.C.

The company was granted permission to conduct the experimental drilling in the pristine area in southeast B.C. just a few days after the Deepwater Horizon explosion and oil spill.

And the disaster unfolding in the gulf since then has renewed concerns about the BP subsidiary's plans in the Rockies.

"This is just a reaffirmation of what we've always known and what everyone has known about BP is that they've had the worst environmental record of all oil companies in the world, even before the Gulf disaster," said Ryland Nelson, of the group Wildsight, which opposes the project.

But Hejdi Feick, the director of communications for BP Canada, said British Columbians can be reassured that the company is a good corporate citizen.

"We are absolutely committed to doing this right," she said Tuesday. "We have been very open and accessible over the last three years."

That is little comfort for Nelson, who said BP had promised to consult with the public every step of the way yet he only learned construction was underway when he went to the site Monday.

Nelson said the contractor on site told him they hope to bring in drilling equipment by the end of the month and start drilling this summer.

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Gita
16th June 2010, 13:27
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Gulf Oil Disaster Updates June 15th


Washington - Plans to burn hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil from BP's blown-out well are raising new questions about the health and safety of the thousands of workers on rigs and vessels near the spill site.

BP and the federal government are in new territory once again in dealing with the nation's worst environmental disaster: There's never been such a huge flaring of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, or possibly anywhere.

The incineration of such huge amounts of oil combined with the black clouds of smoke already wafting over the Gulf waters from controlled burns of surface oil create pollution hazards for the estimated 2,000 people working in the area.

Dozens of rigs and ships are clustered in the area around the spill site.

The Discoverer Enterprise, the main recovery ship, is recovering as much as 15,000 barrels of oil a day through a pipe from the wellhead. A second vessel, the Q4000, is being prepared to pull up more oil and burn it. Experts say it could be burning 10,000 barrels, or 420,000 gallons, a day.

Dr. Phil Harber, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, said the burning oil could expose workers to toxins that might cause severe respiratory irritation, asthma attacks and inflamed airways depending on how the burns are handled. Burning oil is a fairly common method of relieving pressure in refinery operations, he said.

"But the magnitude is a concern," said Harber, who's also the chief of UCLA's division of occupational and environmental medicine.

The other worry, he said, is if the wind carries off the thick clouds, "there are hundreds of ships in the area, and those workers could have significant exposures and perhaps less protection because the exposures would be unanticipated," he said.

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Martial Law Alert Gulf Coast Evacuation Scenario Summer/Fall 2010

SoCal Martial Law Alerts (SCMLA) has been in existence for a year and a half and this is our first MARTIAL LAW ALERT.

We have withheld putting out information on the Gulf oil spill for a variety of reasons, but there is now enough evidence for us to put together a fairly clear picture of what really happened, what may result and to warn people who live in the area.

THE SITUATION:

Due to toxic gases from the fractured oil well in the Gulf of Mexico, the possible off-gassing of the highly-toxic Corexit 9500 (the chemical dispersant used by BP in the oil spill clean-up), acid rain and various as-yet-unknown forms of environmental damage, we believe that the government will have no choice but to relocate millions of people away from the Gulf Coast. Those living in Florida are presently at the highest risk, but the danger also appears likely to spread to all Gulf Coast states east of Louisiana and possibly even to the entire Eastern half of the United States once hurricane season begins.

Greg Evensen, a retired Kansas Highway Patrolman, estimates that 30-40 million people would need to be evacuated away from the Gulf’s coastline (i.e. at least 200 miles inland). In order to accomplish this gargantuan feat, the federal government (through FEMA and other agencies) would most likely seek first to control and manage the transportation system and then operate relocation centers to manage evacuees. Toward this end, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has already declared the airspace over the oil spill site to be a no-fly zone until further notice. Various sources have indicated that local police, highway patrol, National Guard, US military and foreign troops may be involved in an operation to evacuate the Gulf Coast. In fact, the Governor of Louisiana has already requested evacuation assistance (i.e. National Guard) for his state from the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

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astrid
16th June 2010, 15:53
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Feds seize 19,000 pounds of shrimp

About 19,000 pounds of shrimp caught in an area of the Gulf of Mexico closed to fishing because of the oil spill were seized, U.S. officials said.

The shrimp were caught in a closed fishing area about 13 miles south of Belle Pass, La., the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and U.S. Coast Guard said Wednesday in a release. The fishing haul was seized during the weekend after NOAA received a tip.

Federal officials said 78,264 square miles -- approximately 32 percent -- of federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico have been closed to commercial and recreational fishing as a precaution to ensure seafood from the gulf is safe for consumers. The closures don't apply to state waters.

Environmental Protection Agency officials said they found elevated levels of nickel above benchmark levels for aquatic life, which could affect fish and shellfish exposed for an extended period. However, the EPS said it was unlikely the contamination was caused by the BP spill that began April 20 when a Transocean rig leased by BP exploded, killing 11 workers, and later sank. The leak, nearly a mile below the surface, is the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

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source.......

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/06/16/Feds-seize-19000-pounds-of-shrimp/UPI-99871276697131/

Gita
16th June 2010, 17:09
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BP documents highlight PR strategy after deadly Texas blast

Victims of a BP refinery explosion in 2005 say the company's top priority is damage control on "Campbell Brown," CNN Thursday 8pm ET

Houston, Texas (CNN) -- In the hours after a 2005 refinery explosion that left 15 people dead, a BP executive suggested a holiday weekend and the national furor over a Florida woman's last days would eclipse the tragedy.

With the oil company now battling to save an image tarnished by the worst oil spill in U.S. history, the lawyer who found that e-mail among a mountain of BP documents says nothing appears to have changed.

"Their strategy is the same every time ... And it's always, first, damage control," Brent Coon told CNN. "And with damage control, they accentuate the positive, downplay the negative, tell everybody they're sorry, they're gonna fix it, they're gonna do better, and not to worry."

Coon represented many of the victims of the March 2005 explosion at BP's refinery in Texas City, near Houston. The blast killed 15 workers and injured 180, with many of the survivors suffering severe burns, amputations and broken bones.

During litigation that followed, Coon extracted about 7 million documents from the company, including the e-mail that discussed whether the upcoming Easter weekend would push the explosion off the public stage.
"Looks like injuries and loss of life are heavy. Expect a lot of follow up coverage tomorrow. Then I believe it will essentially go away -- due to the holiday weekend," BP America public relations chief Patricia Wright advised other executives.

Wright added, "This is a very big story in the U.S. right now -- but the Terry Schiavo story is huge as well."

Read the email.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/06/16/bp.terry.schiavo.pdf

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Gita
16th June 2010, 17:14
Poignant pics here with time line. (http://www.aladding.com/newsDetail.cfm?postid=496714)

Gita
16th June 2010, 17:31
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BP CDS Curve Goes Nuts, 1 Year Passes 1,000 Bps, No Offers In Market


The BP Curve has really flipped (out). The 1 year point on the curve is now over 1,000 bps, a 400 bps move in one day. The point is also offerless (bidless in traditional cash jargon). Granted the DV01 so close to 0 is rather low, but this kind of ridiculous curve inversion is simply wreaking havoc on correlation desks. The 6 month point is now 0.5 pts upfront. Pretty soon BP will need to apply for the same ECB bailout that rescued all those banks who were risking a wipe out when Greek spreads were trading at comparable levels. The question now becomes: who sold the bulk of the BP protection? BofA's announcement yesterday that it is limiting counterparty risk exposure with BP to all contracts over 1 year could be a rather material clue as to the identity of at least one such entity.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/trichet/Bp%20Curve%206.16.jpg


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Gita
16th June 2010, 18:21
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Oil Spill Estimate DOUBLED AGAIN: 2.5 Million Gallons Leaking Every Day

http://www.treehugger.com/gulf-spill-estimate-doubled.jpeg


And once again, things get worse and worse in the ongoing catastrophic saga that is the BP Gulf oil spill. Shortly after Obama took to the oval office to give a speech to reassure the nation about the spill, officials released the newest estimates of how much oil was leaking from the Deepwater Horizon site. They weren't pretty: It's now believed that as much as 60,000 barrels -- 2.5 million gallons -- of oil is spilling from the source every day.

As of last week's report, which estimated that some 25,000 barrels of oil were leaking a day, the BP disaster was essentially the equivalent of having an entire Exxon Valdez-sized spill every 8 days. The new estimate now reveals a truer description is that there's been an Exxon Valdez event every 4 days. According to the New York Times, this latest estimate comes after scientists lead by Energy Secretary Stephen Chu, who was personally involved in making these calculations, analyzed pressure readings and new high resolution made available after make a cut in the riser.

That riser cut, executed by BP to help it capture some of the oil, is believed to have increased the flow of oil. But some of that is being captured -- BP says it's capturing 15,000 barrels of oil a day. Which means, of course, that some 45,000 barrels are still spewing into the ocean. Once again, it needs to be noted that BP initially claimed there was only 5,000 barrels of oil leaking a day, and the federal government backed up those figures -- and then both proceeded to cling to them for over a month.

That fact highlights the many questions already raised about how much transparency there's been on such matters.

As for the spill itself, efforts to plug the damn hole have continued to fail -- in the latest act-of-God-esque setback, a derrick leading the containment operation was actually struck by lightening. Hope continues to lie on the relief well BP continues to drill, as the best chance of finally stopping the gushing crude. Until then, 2.5 million gallons of oil a day will surge into the Gulf of Mexico.

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Gita
16th June 2010, 18:28
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BP Could Go Bankrupt Over Gulf Spill


So far in its coverage of the BP Gulf spill, the media has made much of the fact that the company's daily profits are higher than its daily cleanup costs, and that after raking in $17 billion in profits last year alone, such costs are but a drop in the bucket. But that's changing fast -- and if a few other factors come to pass, it's possible that the Gulf spill will end up bankrupting the oil giant. Speculators are calling this possible outcome the "Texaco scenario." Here's how it would work.

Andrew Ross Sorkin details the possibility in his New York Times Dealbook column:

BP's costs for the cleanup could run as high as $23 billion, according to Credit Suisse. On top of that, BP could face an additional $14 billion in claims from gulf fisherman and the tourism industry. So while conservative estimates put the bill at $15 billion, something approaching $40 billion is not out of the question. After all, little about this spill has turned out as expected.

The company has about $12 billion in cash and short-term investments, but there is already a debate about whether it should cut its dividend out of fear that it could run out of money ... But all those numbers don't account for the greatest possible threat: a jury verdict against BP. Such a verdict might push the cost of the spill into the hundreds of billions. If that happened, even BP might buckle.

And such a verdict is far from unlikely -- as you're likely aware, the US Justice Department has already opened a criminal investigation into BP's actions leading up to the spill. Analysts are calling this outcome the 'Texaco scenario' after the case in 1987 where that oil company lost a $1 billion lawsuit and had to file Chapter 11 after being unable to raise the cash. Sorkin continues with this what-if scenario:

Imagine the BP case playing out in a Louisiana courtroom, against the backdrop of an oil-choked local economy, high unemployment and an angry public. How high can you count?

Under the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, BP's liability for economic devastation -- above the cost of the cleanup -- is capped at $75 million, a number Mr. Hayward has already said he plans to blow through. But if BP is found to have violated safety regulations, which seems likely, that cap becomes irrelevant.

In which case, BP could feasibly go bankrupt. And then the poor, overworked BP CEO would finally get his life back -- just probably not in the manner in which he hoped.

And even if the company doesn't go bankrupt, it will still likely be a major acquisition target for other larger oil companies like Shell and Exxon, who are reportedly already eying the falling company.

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Source (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/06/oil-spill-estimate-doubled-again-2-5-million-gallons-leaking.php)

Grizzom
16th June 2010, 19:57
I wish we had Gita working for BP as a freelance fixer.

We'd have this spill capped and all cleaned up by lunch!

Assotiated Press couldn't hold a candle to Gitas output of news story's

Keep up the good work Gita

Gita
16th June 2010, 20:20
Man do I feel the love here or what?! :o Thanks Grizzom – you are so sweet. It’s very much my pleasure to bring info to all here so that you can all make up your own minds about what is going on and expand your consciousness. My gift to you. :hug::kiss:

Gita
16th June 2010, 20:50
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No cap on BP's $20 billion compensation fund, Obama says

Washington (CNN) -- President Obama sought to assure victims of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster Wednesday that BP's $20 billion escrow account set up for compensations would not cap the amount the company may be responsible for paying.

Obama announced the compensation plans after a meeting between his response team and BP's leadership. He said he told BP Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg that for small businessmen, fishermen and shrimpers, it wasn't just a matter of dollars and cents. It was about accountability.

"At the end of the day, that's what every American wants and expects," Obama said. "The people of the Gulf have my commitment that BP will meet its obligations to them."

An additional $100 million fund will be established to help support oil rig workers now unemployed as a result of the April 20 accident, Obama said.

Svanberg apologized to the American people for the oil disaster. He said he hoped the company could earn back the trust of the American people, because "we care about the small people."

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HORIZONS
16th June 2010, 21:38
I wish we had Gita working for BP as a freelance fixer.

We'd have this spill capped and all cleaned up by lunch!

Assotiated Press couldn't hold a candle to Gitas output of news story's

Keep up the good work Gita

I second that opinion! :thumb: It is "very cool" :cool: to be able to check in here for the latest updates on this issue. Thanks Gita - you are loved by all :hug: and what an :angel: you are.
Cheers to you :tea:

Gita
17th June 2010, 07:44
Thanks Horizons :love: I can say the same thing about you my dear friend. :hug:


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BP and Halliburton's Role in the Gulf Oil Disaster-- Well Casing Horror Story


Right from the beginning, it was reported right away-- that Halliburton's job was to cement and seal the well casing. But I misunderstood what that meant. I took it to mean that Halliburton's job was to seal the connection between the well-head and the top of the pipe that was drilled 18,000 feet into the ground. Wrong.

Halliburton's job was to seal the well casing. When a well like the Gulf disaster well on BP's Macondo prospect oil field is drilled, they start with a big hole-- about 22 inches in diameter. Then, after a few or five thousand feet, they go to a smaller diameter, say 16 inches, then 12 inches, 11 inches, 9 inches. That initial drilling hole is the well casing. It's like a several mile long inverted cone. When the well is completed, they put a heavier duty four inch pipe all the way down the well. That's what the oil is supposed to flow through.

Halliburton's job was to seal the well casing with concrete-- all three plus miles of casing, so the four inch pipe was surrounded with concrete. New disclosures make it clear that BP made decisions to cut costs which reduced the safety of the job Haliburton did. A huffingtonpost.com article reports that, as part of an investigation, congressmen Henry Waxman and Bar Stupak wrote:

Despite warnings from its own engineers, "BP chose the more risky casing option, apparently because the liner option would have cost $7 to $10 million more and taken longer," Waxman and Stupak said.

In the brief e-mail, Morel said the company is likely to make last-minute changes in the well.

"We could be running it in 2-3 days, so need a relative quick response. Sorry for the late notice, this has been nightmare well which has everyone all over the place," Morel wrote.

BP apparently rejected advice of a subcontractor, Halliburton Inc., in preparing for a cementing job to close up the well. BP rejected Halliburton's recommendation to use 21 "centralizers" to make sure the casing ran down the center of the well bore. Instead, BP used six centralizers.

In an e-mail on April 16, a BP official involved in the decision explained: "It will take 10 hours to install them. I do not like this." Later that day, another official recognized the risks of proceeding with insufficient centralizers but commented: "who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."


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Gita
17th June 2010, 08:20
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Day 57 – A Living Nightmare

As we inch closer to the sixtieth day since the explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon, one has to wonder if the residents of the Gulf Coast could handle another crisis, if one were to arise. Just as the wetlands have been destroyed and weakened, so has the spirit of the Gulf coast residents. That being said, the people of the gulf have shown an ability to get through adversity, as was evident during the aftermath of Katrina. One can only hope the spirit of banning together through adversity will continue as this spill moves forward. As we have heavily documented, Corexit a known neurotoxin, is being sprayed throughout the Gulf at an extremely alarming rate. While the use of a toxic dispersant remains the most significant threat facing the Gulf, more potential threats seem to be surfacing almost daily.

The deadly chemical known as Corexit has continued to wreck havoc on the coastal areas. Smells that witnesses have described as toxic, have been recorded in Florida and Louisiana. As epidemic alerts continue to poor in, sickness seems to be gripping many of tho residents of the Gulf. With over 71 already confirmed ill, the chemical to air content ratio will likely increase for the worst.

Troops have been activated and have been deployed throughout the region, from Grand Isle, Louisiana to Gainesville Florida. In TN, AR, and TX, crops have been spotted with “burn holes” that can most likely be attributed to a mixture of oily, toxic rain.

Meanwhile, British Petroleum is attempting to burn a massive amount of oil directly off the water, in what is being described as the biggest controlled oil burn in history. When you consider BP’s track record of using techniques that are known to be ineffective, you have to wonder what possible consequences the new plan may impose? Fumes from burning oil obviously have the potential to pose various health problems and some have even claimed that burning oil in Kuwait was one of the leading contributors to Gulf War Syndrome. Couple that with burning dispersants, and you have another potentially major health risk.

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rhythm
17th June 2010, 08:24
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bless your cotton socks gita girl ,,, even tho this stuff is doin my head in:faint2:
seriously ta! i think for the info :eek:x

Gita
17th June 2010, 09:18
You are welcomed my beautiful Rhythm. Please don't allow it to do your head in - just try to stay informed and centred my dear friend. Awareness is always good. :hug::kiss:

Gita
17th June 2010, 11:23
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BP 'working around the clock,' but cannot guarantee outcome, CEO says

Thursday on CNN, watch BP chief executive Tony Hayward testify before a congressional committee looking into the oil disaster. You can see it for yourself on CNN, CNN.com/Live, and the CNN iPhone app starting at 10 a.m. ET Thursday.

(CNN) -- Eight weeks after an explosion uncorked a massive oil spill into the Gulf, BP does not know whether its efforts to stanch the flow will soon succeed, its CEO plans to testify Thursday.

"We cannot guarantee the outcome of these operations, but we are working around the clock with the best experts from government and industry," Tony Hayward says in prepared testimony to be delivered before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

"The explosion and fire aboard the Deepwater Horizon and the resulting oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico never should have happened -- and I am deeply sorry that they did," he says.

The committee's chairman says Hayward should get ready for a whipping.

"Members are angry. Members are frustrated," Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Michigan, told CNN's Dana Bash. "They're going to take his hide off, as they should."

In his prepared remarks, Hayward says no one knows why the disaster happened.

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Gita
17th June 2010, 11:28
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Democrat: Lawmakers going to take Hayward's 'hide off'

Washington (CNN) -- Democratic lawmakers will try to build the case of a corporate culture which chose riskier, cheaper methods over safety concerns as they grill BP CEO Tony Hayward on Capitol Hill Thursday.

"Members are angry. Members are frustrated," Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Michigan, told CNN's Dana Bash. "They're going to take his hide off, as they should."

Stupak, who chairs the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, outlined evidence his committee has put together from thousands of pages of internal BP documents.

In Thursday's hearing, Stupak intends to focus on what the lawmaker sees as a pattern of behavior on BP's part that risked safety in order to contain costs and make up for the drilling project's being behind schedule.

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Gita
17th June 2010, 11:43
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Drilling the relief wells

(CNN) -- BP has said it hopes to have a relief well in place in August to permanently cut off the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico. The company has said the operation is the best sure-fire way of plugging the massive oil leak.

A relief well is a well drilled into the existing well, intercepting the flow and allowing a specialized heavy liquid to be pumped into the flowing well to bring it under control.

BP began drilling the first relief well on May 2 and started drilling a second one two weeks later. The wells are being dug to a depth of about 18,000 feet, just above the oil reservoir.

Once one hits the original pipe, just 7 inches in diameter, drilling mud will be shot into it to stop the spewing oil. Cement will then be used to permanently seal it.

The second relief well is part of a contingency plan in case the first well encounters any delays.

Relief wells have been used to plug two other large blowout spills. In 1979, it took nearly 10 months to seal the world's largest spill in Mexico's Bay of Campeche. More recently, an Australian accident last year known as the Montara spill, was plugged after nearly four months.

In both cases, efforts such as those used to try to stop the Deepwater Horizon spill -- containment domes and junk shots -- were fruitless. And it took multiple tries before the relief wells reached the original wells.

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Gita
17th June 2010, 11:48
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/June20103/oil_d.jpg

Fredkc
17th June 2010, 15:32
Oh my prophetic soul! - Hamlet



Edward Markey told the House energy and commerce sub-committee Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell all have identical response plans to BP.
Gita;
I wonder if all their plans include what to do with all the Gulf Coast walruses, like BP's plan. ;)

Gita;
I learned yesterday that not only was BP's safety document a copy/paste of their Alaskan one...
It turns out that the ones from Chevron, Conoco, Exxon, and Shell are all "90% the same document" - Congressman Markey

The filed documents for not only BP, but also Chevron, Conoco, Exxon, and Shell ALL include measures for dealing with the "local walrus population" ! !

Not only is this a royal screw job, and a complete failure of government oversite, it is a conspiracy (tho hard to prove); but it opens up another can of worms...

BP's stated they had a plan in place to deal with spills up to 200,000 bbls per day !

They've now admitted they weren't prepared, AND also note they are still trying to come up with a plan that can deal with even 15,000 bbl/day, for more than 2 days in a row!

This amounts to criminal fraud (or criminal negligence), with written proof!

"See you at the hearings..." ;)

Fred

Gita
17th June 2010, 16:04
Fred

Forget the hearing Fred, lets get the whips out! I've got a bad feeling they will get away with it. It's all just for show with what seems a pre-written script for the greedy to profit. Same old crappy story. These people have no conscience and they don’t care who or what they have to destroy to get what they want (as if they haven’t got enough). They are also extremely clever people who know exactly how to play on the human emotions and psyche.

Good detective work btw but I really am not suprised by it.:thumb:

Gita
17th June 2010, 16:23
Regional Oil Spill Response Plan – Gulf of Mexico (Link below)
• 583 pages
• June 30, 2009


http://info.publicintelligence.net/BPGoMspillresponseplan.pdf


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https://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bpoilresponse1.png

Gita
17th June 2010, 16:30
For you my dear ying yang king Pengy (aka Fred). :heh::wink:

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Walruses in Louisiana? Eyebrow-raising details of BP’s spill response plan

Louisiana walruses? Seals swimming along the Gulf Coast?

These creatures normally live in the Arctic Ocean, not the Gulf of Mexico, but they’re listed as “sensitive biological resources” that could be affected by an oil spill in the area in a document filed by BP last June with the U.S. Minerals Management Service. More than a month after BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig blew out and sank on April 20, the British oil giant’s regional spill response plan drew some severe criticism from the watchdog group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.

http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/files/2010/05/RTRF0VS_Comp-214x300.jpg

One problem with BP’s nearly 600-page spill response plan? “It was utterly useless in the event of a spill,” Jeff Ruch, PEER’s executive director, said by telephone. His group, which acts as a kind of safe haven for government whistle-blowers, detailed what it called “outright inanities” in BP’s filing and the government’s approval of it.

PEER noted BP’s plan referred to “sea lions, seals, sea otters (and) walruses” as wildlife that might be affected in the Gulf of Mexico, and suggested this reference was taken from a previous plan for Arctic exploratory drilling, where these animals could be affected.

The BP plan lists a Japanese shopping and search website as a link to one of its “primary equipment providers” for rapid deployment in the event of a spill in the Gulf of Mexico. And it directs its media spokespeople never to make “promises that property, ecology or anything else will be restored to normal.”

Ruch said the plan contains no information about tracking sub-surface oil plumes from deepwater blowouts or preventing disease transmission to captured animals in rehab facilities, a serious risk after the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill.

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Fredkc
17th June 2010, 16:47
Had to do it!
I d'loaded the PDF of the response plan and did a search. Sure enough!
On page 249, of 583 pages...

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/post3/walrus.jpg

Hey, at least someone thought to include dolphins & manatees ;)

JoshERTW
17th June 2010, 17:17
Its just sad that the amount of energy we are investing right now to scrutinize this company should have been invested before they started drilling but wasn't.

Gita
17th June 2010, 18:56
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Scientists Warn Gulf Of Mexico Sea Floor Fractured Beyond Repair

A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.

Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.

BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft).

According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.

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HORIZONS
17th June 2010, 19:41
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Scientists Warn Gulf Of Mexico Sea Floor Fractured Beyond Repair

A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.

Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.

BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft).

According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.

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wow - I hope this is not the case!

Gita
17th June 2010, 20:16
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'I am not stonewalling,' BP chief tells House committee

Thursday on CNN, watch BP chief executive Tony Hayward testify before a congressional committee looking into the oil disaster. You can see it for yourself on CNN, CNN.com/Live, and the CNN app for iPhone starting at 10 a.m. ET Thursday.

(CNN) -- Lawmakers grilled BP chief executive officer Tony Hayward on Thursday, questioning him on whether the oil company saved time and money in seven areas of well design and operation that may have led to failure. In each case, Hayward answered that he did not recall or did not know.

Members of the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations also hurled allegations at Hayward during a hearing on what caused the Deepwater Horizon rig to explode in April and trigger the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.

Hayward defended himself against charges that he refused to answer questions raised by documents that BP dismissed safety concerns.
"I am not stonewalling," he said. "I was simply not involved in the decision-making process. I won't draw conclusions until an investigation is concluded."

Hayward also would not give a yes or no answer when pressed on whether BP made good on the commitment to safety it pledged three years ago when he became CEO.

"We have focused like a laser on safe and reliable operations," he said. "We have made major changes."

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Continued here and watch vid here too. (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/17/us.gulf.disaster/index.html?hpt=T1)

Studeo
17th June 2010, 20:23
Special flare may stop triple amount of oil reaching sea, says BP

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10652584

Using a specialised flare system, BP began slowly burning oil siphoned from a ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico as part of its plans to more than triple the amount of crude it can stop from reaching the sea.

Energy giant BP PLC said it had burned 198,725 litres of oil by noon Wednesday. Oil and gas siphoned from the well first reached a semi-submersible drilling rig on the surface of the Gulf around 1 a.m. local time.

Once that gas reaches the rig, it will be mixed with compressed air, shot down a specialised boom made by Schlumberger Ltd. and ignited at sea. It's the first time this particular burner has been deployed in the Gulf of Mexico.

BP spokesman Tristan Vanhegan said engineers were still working to optimise the system, which the firm previously said could incinerate anywhere from 800,000 to 1.5 million litres of oil daily once it's fully operational.

Under pressure from the Coast Guard, the energy firm is attempting to expand its ability to trap leaking oil before it reaches the water. Already, oil and gas are being siphoned from a containment cap sitting over the well head and flowing to a drill ship sitting above it in the Gulf of Mexico.

Adding the burner is part of BP's plan to expand its containment system so it can capture as much as 8.3 million litres of oil a day by late June, or nearly 90 per cent of what a team of government scientists have estimated is the maximum flow out the well.

Only a relief well, which BP says will be completed in August, will completely stop the flow of oil. Still, comments from President Barack Obama and federal officials have raised expectations that the flow of oil could be significantly contained by the end of the month.

The Coast Guard has been pushing the British energy firm to bring more equipment and boats to the scene to deal with the leak. But plans remain subject to uncertainty.

An earlier containment box clogged with an icelike slush. A smaller "top hat" containment was abandoned. Attempting to clog the blowout preventer with junk did not work. Neither did forcing heavy drilling mud down the well bore to stanch the flow.

While the new containment cap placed on the well has been collecting more than 2.3 million litres of oil daily, the system has its own limits. A single bolt of lightning on Tuesday struck the drilling ship collecting oil from the cap, started a fire and forced oil collection to stop for hours.

Lightning storms are the least of the weather worries as the Gulf enters hurricane season.

- AP

Gita
17th June 2010, 20:29
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Oil hits Fort Walton Beach FL, Azure Resort

CNN producer note
dstamm of St. Louis, Missouri, and his extended family are in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, vacationing for a week. His mother was on the beach with relatives when they noticed some oil wash ashore. 'They were hanging out on the beach and they stated seeing a change in the color of the tide coming in,' he said.
- zdan, CNN iReport producer

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Watch vid of oil on the beach here. (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-460996?hpt=T1)

Gita
18th June 2010, 07:38
Very interesting!Hmmm!

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Obama picks Son of the Gulf' Ray Mabus to lead restoration

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's selection of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, a former Mississippi governor, as his go-to person in charge of developing a long-term Gulf Coast restoration plan won widespread praise Wednesday.

While details are sketchy, the selection of Mabus, which Obama announced Tuesday night in an Oval Office speech to the nation, is meant to quell rising unease, especially on the Gulf Coast, about the government's response to the eight-week-old oil spill.

Describing Mabus as a "son of the Gulf," Obama said, "the plan will be designed by states, local communities, tribes, fishermen, businesses, conservationists, and other Gulf residents."

"I think it's great," said Louie Miller, the Sierra Club's Mississippi director, who's been a vocal critic of the cleanup. "I think he is an excellent choice: He's not a good old boy; he can work across party lines, which he'll have to, and he is a credentialed guy."

"He brings to the table an understanding of Southern culture and an ability to use connections he already has," added Miller. "He'll be able to hit the ground running."

Exactly what the process or timeline will be for Gulf Coast restoration, however, is not yet known. A spokeswoman for Mabus said only that he wasn't granting interviews.

Observers think that Mabus, a Democrat who was governor from 1988 to 1992, will quickly take control.

"Mabus brings administrative skills and political heft to the position," said Loren Thompson, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute, a policy organization in Arlington, Va. "He has turned out to be an effective team player in the Obama administration."

Mabus also was a popular choice among lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

"I think the selection of Secretary Mabus to develop a long-term Gulf Coast restoration plan is a good decision," said Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss. "He understands the economy, culture and dynamics of the region, and he knows the officials in the administration who can make the plan for restoration become a reality."

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Now this is very interesting. According to Nostradamus, Mabus is the third anti-christ!!!

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According to Nostradamus, there are "three antichrists" to come, three persons who will cause world war. The First Antichrist was NAPOLEAN, the second Antichrist was HITLER and the third "Antichrist" is an Enigmatic person named MABUS who will trigger W.W.III.

Nostradamus then says after MABUS triggers W.W.III, he will be defeated and a great Spiritual Leader (savior) will "come" to earth who will bring about a spiritual transformation and the golden age of mankind, a time of peace and brotherhood.

According to The Bible, this coming Spiritual Leader is the Biblical Antichrist, THE BEAST of REV:13 who will lead a Second Holocaust against Christians and trigger cataclysmic destruction upon earth, the Judgment of God.

So those who follow Nostradamus will accept The true Antichrist, when he comes, as the savior of the world and herein lies the DECEPTION of Nostradamus.

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Gita
18th June 2010, 08:05
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Nalco linked to Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, among others

While evacuations may not take place in the very near future, one has to expect some sort of evacuation before the end of summer. The people of the Gulf simply cannot continue to breath in these chemicals without profound repercussions. Most likely, the government will wait until the very last minute, possibly until after a hurricane, to evacuate the coast. Contrary to the story now being run by CBS, a hurricane will have catastrophic consequences on the oil inflicted areas..

The same companies that were heavily involved in the financial collapse are now lined up to profit off the use of the neurotoxins that are currently being sprayed.

Nalco has gone out of its way to pretend that Corexit is safe for use, to the point that they should now be criminally libel for any deaths that may occur from its use. To top it off, Nalcos parent company Blackstone, is a massive company that owns such places as Six Flags and Seaworld!

This dispersant is four times more toxic than crude oil, yet it is being used at an alarming rate.

With this knowledge, why would BP continue to use this product? The answer may be about more than just money. Know world government advocate, Lord Jacob Rothschild is a member of the International Board of Advisers for Blackstone. Peter Sutherland, British Petroleum’s Pacific CEO is involved with such groups as the Trilateral Commission, WHO, and Goldman Sachs. Whether the initial explosion turns out to be a false flag or an accident, the fact is that members of the global elite are completely controlling the situation.

We will continue to cover the situation in the gulf but we must also understand the grave danger in ignoring the other happenings throughout the world.

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Gita
18th June 2010, 08:11
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BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard

Eight days ago, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state's oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor's wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore.

"It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican governor said today in Buras, La. "Literally, yesterday morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges."
Watch "World News" for David Muir's report from Louisiana tonight.

Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP's oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be effective at collecting the thick gunk.

"These barges work. You've seen them work. You've seen them suck oil out of the water," said Jindal.


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Gita
18th June 2010, 08:55
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Corporate atrocities against nature may ultimately destroy human civilization

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(NaturalNews) What's most striking about the present BP oil catastrophe is not that it is an aberration but rather part of a dangerous pattern of mankind's propensity to destroy nature. To destroy life in a large region of an ocean isn't even new: The world already has over two hundred "dead zones" where fish can't live because the ocean water has no more oxygen left thanks to the runoff effects of man-made chemicals.

Not content with mere deforestation and the vast destruction of biodiversity on land, Man has now expanded to destroy the oceans through overfishing, ocean acidification from CO2 emissions, agricultural runoff, flushing pharmaceuticals down the drain and unleashing crude oil directly into the ocean waters. It almost seems as if mankind were somehow bent on destroying itself by first destroying everything else on the planet just to see what happens.

Human beings, by any honest accounting, are repeat offenders engaged in crimes against nature. This article, by the way, isn't some clever way to try to push us all toward a U.N.-controlled world government where every human action is regulated by environmental cops; it's merely an observation of what's really happening right now on our planet. I'm a Constitutionalist and remain strongly opposed to UN control as much as any properly-informed American. In no way do I support suppressing our individual freedoms or liberties. In fact, the problems here are not with the People but rather with the corporations.

The criminal corporations

It is the corporations that are committing these crimes against nature: Big Pharma's mass poisoning of the waters, BP's oil catastrophe crime against the planet in the Gulf Coast, the manufacture of Depleted Uranium shells by wealthy "defense" contractors, factory farming by meat producers, the poisoning of our farms by Monsanto and its campaign to dominate nature with genetically modified seeds... you get the picture. If you really look hard at the issues, it's the corporations who are destroying our planet and thereby destroying future survivability for the rest of us.

It is the corporations, in essence, that are the criminals who are now destroying the very world around us, and if We the People continue to let these corporations engage in such actions, it won't be long before we wake up and find ourselves enslaved in a Corporatocracy that has stolen from us the very world in which we had hoped to raise our children.

What is abundantly clear now is that corporations will do anything to make money, from the cruel and inhumane factory farming of cows to dumping millions of gallons of toxic chemicals in the ocean to try to sink the dead sea animals in the Gulf. Corporations would set fire to the entire planet if that act could somehow boost profits by 50% next quarter.


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Gita
18th June 2010, 09:06
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Thursday, June 17, 2010
BP's Largest Shareholder says Oil Spill Good for the Economy

JP Morgan says that the Gulf oil spill will help the economy.

This is an odd thing to say, given that the spill is our modern dust bowl, which could very well deepen and prolong our economic woes.

What might explain such an odd statement?

Well, JPM is apparently BP's largest shareholder. So happy talk meant to drive BP's share prices higher can only help JPM.

Then again, maybe JPM's prop desk is making a fortune shorting BP, just like Goldman famously shorted the CDOs it was selling like hotcakes.

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Gita
18th June 2010, 09:09
Not sure if this has been posted before!

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BP Aware Of Cracks In Oil Well Two Months Before Explosion

BP was aware of cracks appearing in the Macondo well as far back as February, right around the time Goldman Sachs and BP Chairman Tony Hayward were busy dumping their stocks in the company on the eve of the explosion that led to the oil spill, according to information uncovered by congressional investigators.

The Mining and Mineral Services agency released documents to Bloomberg indicating that BP “was trying to seal cracks in the well about 40 miles (64 kilometers) off the Louisiana coast,” according to the report.

The fissures, which BP began to attempt to fix on February 13, could have played a role in the disaster, though this is a question still being explored by investigators. Improperly sealed, the cracks cause explosive natural gas to rush up the shaft.

“The company attempted a “cement squeeze,” which involves pumping cement to seal the fissures, according to a well activity report. Over the following week the company made repeated attempts to plug cracks that were draining expensive drilling fluid, known as “mud,” into the surrounding rocks,” states the report.

As we previously highlighted, eyewitness evidence indicates that Deepwater Horizon managers knew that the BP oil rig had major problems before its explosion on April 20. A crew member who rescued burning workers on the rig told Houston attorney Tony Buzbee of a conversation between Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell and someone in Houston. According to the witness, Harrell was screaming, “Are you ****ing happy? Are you ****ing happy? The rig’s on fire! I told you this was gonna happen.”

The fact that BP managers were aware of problems with the rig and were seemingly unconcerned about fixing them only lends more weight to the already startling indications of some having foreknowledge of the disaster.

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Gita
18th June 2010, 09:13
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'Evasive' BP Boss Denounced By Congress

BP chief Tony Hayward has been blasted for "insulting the intelligence" of a US congressional committee investigating the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Mr Hayward was grilled for more than five hours on Capitol Hill over BP's role in the country's worst environmental disaster.

But he was repeatedly accused of being evasive as he deflected a barrage of tough questions from the committee.

Mr Hayward denied BP had been reckless or put saving time and money ahead of safety concerns on the Deepwater Horizon rig which exploded in April with the loss of 11 workers.

He said: "There is nothing I have seen so far that suggests that anyone put costs ahead of safety. If there are, then we'll take action.

But he added that he had not been involved in the decision-making process and would rather await the outcome of several on-going investigations before passing judgement.

But New York congressman Eliot Engel told him: "Mr Hayward, let me just say, with all due respect: I, like everyone else here, and everyone else in America, am thoroughly disgusted. I think you're stalling, I think you're insulting our intelligence and I really resent it."

In his opening remarks to the hearing, Mr Hayward said: "How could this happen? How damaging is the spill to the environment? Why is it taking so long to stop the flow of oil and gas in the Gulf? We don't yet have all the answers to these important questions."

But his controlled and softly-spoken performance appeared to enrage the panel of politicians, most of whom face re-election fights in November.

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SpoonMan
18th June 2010, 12:08
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BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard

Eight days ago, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state's oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor's wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore.

"It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican governor said today in Buras, La. "Literally, yesterday morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges."
Watch "World News" for David Muir's report from Louisiana tonight.

Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP's oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be effective at collecting the thick gunk.

"These barges work. You've seen them work. You've seen them suck oil out of the water," said Jindal.


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WHAT THE HELL!?!? What is in the heads of the people at the top? "No, let them burn".

Fredkc
18th June 2010, 14:32
If you didn't watch 360, last night on CNN...

Grassley questions when BP knew early oil leak estimate
By Jeanne Meserve

Washington (CNN) (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/17/gulf.oil.disaster.grassley/) -- Did BP know the Deepwater Horizon well could be gushing as much as 60,000 barrels of oil a day, and fail to inform the public of that? Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, wants to know.

A team of government and independent scientists announced Tuesday that the flow rate might be as high as 60,000 barrels a day, but Grassley believes BP may have known sooner.

A BP document provided to the senator says "an absolute worst case flow rate of 60,000 barrels a day was calculated." The document does not have a date.
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So far, best guess is the document is at least from May.
This means that while BP was saying "1,000 bbls. .... no 5,000 bbls. ..... no wait! 12,000 bbls. ... ", they bloody well knew this pig was spilling something 60, ... no 12, .... no 5 times more that what they claimed.

Ya know, I really really really hate people who say it, but... I TOLD YOU SO!!

What really amazes me here is:
BP appears convinced that they're still going to find some teeny little window of sunshine in all this that will let them lie their way out of this!

I had a couple other things on my mind, but I can't find it without more coffee.
Will post again when the plumbing backs up.
Fred

Grizzom
18th June 2010, 16:04
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Read more here:
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/06/was-gulf-oil-spill-inside-job.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FAYsl+%28Gerald+Celente+Trends%29&utm_content=FeedBurner

Gita
18th June 2010, 16:20
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Gulf oil full of methane, adding new concerns

By MATTHEW BROWN and RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI (AP) – 7 hours ago
NEW ORLEANS — It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits, said John Kessler, a Texas A&M University oceanographer who is studying the impact of methane from the spill.

That means huge quantities of methane have entered the Gulf, scientists say, potentially suffocating marine life and creating "dead zones" where oxygen is so depleted that nothing lives.
"This is the most vigorous methane eruption in modern human history," Kessler said.

Methane is a colorless, odorless and flammable substance that is a major component in the natural gas used to heat people's homes. Petroleum engineers typically burn off excess gas attached to crude before the oil is shipped off to the refinery. That's exactly what BP has done as it has captured more than 7.5 million gallons of crude from the breached well.

A BP spokesman said the company was burning about 30 million cubic feet of natural gas daily from the source of the leak, adding up to about 450 million cubic feet since the containment effort started 15 days ago. That's enough gas to heat about 450,000 homes for four days.

But that figure does not account for gas that eluded containment efforts and wound up in the water, leaving behind huge amounts of methane.

BP PLC said a containment cap sitting over the leaking well funneled about 619,500 gallons of oil to a drillship waiting on the ocean surface on Wednesday. Meanwhile, a specialized flare siphoning oil and gas from a stack of pipes on the seafloor burned roughly 161,700 gallons.

Thursday was focused on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers chastised BP CEO Tony Hayward.

Testifying as oil still surged into the Gulf at between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons a day, coating more coastal land and marshes, Hayward declared "I am so devastated with this accident," "deeply sorry" and "so distraught."

But he also said he was out of the loop on decisions at the well and disclaimed knowledge of any of the myriad problems on and under the Deepwater Horizon rig before the deadly explosion. BP was leasing the rig the Deepwater Horizon that exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and triggering the environmental disaster.

"BP blew it," said Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., chairman of the House investigations panel that held the hearing. "You cut corners to save money and time."

As for the methane, scientists are still trying to measure how much has escaped into the water and how it may damage the Gulf and it creatures.

The dangerous gas has played an important role throughout the disaster and response. A bubble of methane is believed to have burst up from the seafloor and ignited the rig explosion. Methane crystals also clogged a four-story containment box that engineers earlier tried to place on top of the breached well.

Now it is being looked at as an environmental concern.

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Gita
18th June 2010, 16:58
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Matt Simmons Revises Leak Estimate To 120,000 Barrels Per Day, Believes Oil Covers 40% Of Gulf Beneath The Surface


Matt Simmons was on Bloomberg earlier, adding some additional perspective to his original appearance on the station, in which he initially endorsed the nuclear option as the only viable way to resolve the oil spill. Simmons refutes even the latest oil spill estimate of 45,000-60,000 barrels per day, and in quoting research by the Thomas Jefferson research vessel which was compiled late on Sunday, quantifies the leak at 120,000 bpd. What is scarier is that according to the Jefferson the oil lake underneath the surface of the water could be covering up to 40% of the entire Gulf of Mexico. Simmons also says that as the leak has no casing, a relief well will not work, and the only possible resolution is, as he said previously, to use a small nuclear explosion to convert the rock to glass. Simmons concludes that as punishment for BP's arrogance and stupidity the government "will take all their cash." Now if only our own administration could tell us the truth about what is really happening in the gulf...

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Gita
18th June 2010, 17:24
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Once BP’s oil mixes with water it “can actually ruin refineries”; “Has to be disposed of as garbage” at landfills

Oil giant BP is facing a huge new challenge in disposing of the millions of gallons of potentially toxic oil sludge its crews are collecting from the Gulf of Mexico, according to industry experts and veterans of past spills.

Crews so far have skimmed and sucked up 21.1 million gallons of oil mixed with water, according to the Deepwater Horizon Unified Command. Because the out-of-control well may continue spewing for months, that total almost certainly will surge.

BP’s plan for handling the gooey mess, written in conjunction with the Coast Guard, the Environmental Protection Agency and Louisiana officials, calls for reclaiming or recycling as much as possible.
Some experts said that approach is the best option for the environment, but it has not worked in previous spills. It is not profitable to refine sludge that has mixed with water and seagoing debris because it can actually ruin refineries, they said.

“It has no longer got any economic value. It has to be disposed of as garbage,” said Marc Jones, a former Navy officer who helped oversee numerous oil spill cleanups, including the 1989 Exxon Valdez in Alaska. “The stuff that got recovered from the Exxon Valdez was just a nightmare.”

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Gita
18th June 2010, 17:31
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Alert: “Sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water off Florida beaches” says AP; “Crowding in close to shore”

Dolphins and sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water off Florida beaches…

Birds covered in oil are crawling deep into marshes, never to be seen again.

Marine scientists studying the effects of the BP disaster are seeing some strange phenomena.

Fish and other wildlife seem to be fleeing the oil out in the Gulf and clustering in cleaner waters along the coast in a trend that some researchers see as a potentially troubling sign.

The animals’ presence close to shore means their usual habitat is badly polluted, and the crowding could result in mass die-offs as fish run out of oxygen. Also, the animals could easily be devoured by predators. …

” There will be a lot of fish, sharks, turtles trying to get out of this water they detect is not suitable,” said Larry Crowder, a Duke University marine biologist.

The nearly two-month-old spill has created an environmental catastrophe unparalleled in U.S. history as tens of millions of gallons of oil have spewed into the Gulf of Mexico ecosystem. Scientists are seeing some unusual things as they try to understand the effects on thousands of species of marine life.

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astrid
19th June 2010, 05:43
Very important documents concerning BP

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33254428/Queen-Signed

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33254517/Fax-Covers-6-14-10-NN

astrid
19th June 2010, 06:44
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Urgent - Radioactive Oil From BP Blowout!
Posted At Godlike Productions
6-18-10

Geiger Counter Results On Gulf Oil - Vid

This is going to blow the roof off of the scope of this disaster. This is why people are getting sick. This is why they are using Corexit in such quantities, this is why there aren't many ships out there. The radioactivity is beyond safe levels.

Remeber 'Alas, Babylon' while you read.

Lets first start with Eugene Island 330.

The mystery of Eugene Island.

Eugene island is a submerged geological feature like an underwater mountain 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana. The landscape is littered with deep fissures and faults which gush large amounts of oil and gas. A platform named Eugene Island 330 was producing 15,000 barrels of oil in the early 1970's. By the late 80's, the flow has reduced to 4,000 barrels a day. Then suddenly a mysterious thing happened. Production at Eugene Island 330 suddenly jumped back to 13,000 barrels a day. The reserve was refilled just like that. It is estimated the reserves went from 60 million barrels to 400 million barrels in a few days time. Something very strange is happening under the Gulf of Mexico.

What happened at Eugene Island supports the growing theory that oil is renewable from deep Earth processes. But don't let the general population know this. This aids to explain why the Middle East oil feilds seem to be inexhaustable.

Scientists noticed oils chemical composition did not change as fossil records had changed. Many scientist now believe oil is not created by decomposing remains of life since areas of very different ecospheres are producing oil of equal composition.

But there is much more to talk about the new discoveries of deep oil. Something very dangerous lurks in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Keep in mind the reserve Deepwater was drilling happens to be the deepest offshore reserve to date. Also keep in mind how we learned oil is sourced from deep below the Earths crust. Further down then mankind has been able to study and observe.

Helium is a naturally occurring gas formed in oil reserves. So common that helium detectors have been used to discover oil reserves. Helium is an inert gas known to be a by-product from the radiological decay of uranium and thorium. Uranium and Thorium are known to be in great quantities at greater depths. Yes, radioactive elements occur naturally and can be found and detected in trace amounts in shallow oil reserves. Oil reserves that do not produce large amounts of methane also lack uranium and thorium. The presence of methane is proportional to the presence of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements.

Yes, you read that correctly!

The more methane that is present reflects the amount of Uranium and Thorium in the oil reserve. The deeper the oil, the younger the radiological decay is that produces helium. The Eugene Island 330 rig was replenished showing deep oil is resupllying the more shallow oil reserves in the Gulf of Mexico just off the coast of Louisiana.

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http://www.rense.com/general91/d2se.htm

Gita
19th June 2010, 10:54
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Anadarko blasts BP for 'reckless actions'

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Anadarko Petroleum, a minority partner in the ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico, blamed BP for "reckless" behavior, seeking to distance itself from the worst oil spill in US history.

"The mounting evidence clearly demonstrates that this tragedy was preventable and the direct result of BP's reckless decisions and actions," Anadarko chief executive Jim Hackett said in a statement issued late Friday.

Anadarko, which owns 25% of the Macondo well where the Deepwater Horizon rig was drilling, signed a contract saying that it would pay a quarter of the costs associated with the well, unless BP is found guilty of gross negligence.

"BP's behavior and actions likely represent gross negligence or willful misconduct and thus affect the obligations of the parties under the operating agreement," Hackett said.

On April 20, an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon killed 11 workers, and the well is now spewing millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

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Gita
19th June 2010, 10:57
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Allen: Oil collection rate from ruptured Gulf well increasing

You've seen the devastation. Now it's your chance to help. Tune in Monday night for a special "Larry King Live, Disaster in the Gulf: How You Can Help" telethon featuring an all-star panel of guests joining forces in the Gulf region. Don't miss "Larry King Live," 8 ET Monday night on CNN.

(CNN) -- Efforts to contain oil gushing from BP's ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico are becoming more effective, according to Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the federal government's point man for the disaster.

Approximately 25,000 barrels of oil -- slightly more than 1 million gallons -- were collected from the well in the 24-hour period ending at midnight Thursday, Allen told reporters Friday. The total represents an increase of nearly 6,700 barrels -- or roughly 281,000 gallons -- compared with Wednesday's tally.

Federal officials anticipate a total collection capacity of up to 80,000 barrels per day by July.

A team of government and independent scientists announced Tuesday that the flow rate from the well might be as high as 60,000 barrels a day.

On Thursday, Allen said the drilling of two relief wells -- viewed as the ultimate solution to the Deepwater Horizon gusher -- was ahead of schedule, but he shied away from saying the well would be plugged early, citing the complexity of the operation.


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Ross
19th June 2010, 10:57
Looks to me like the demiss and aquisition of BP...amongst others things of course. Thx Gita

Gita
19th June 2010, 11:07
You are welcomed Ross.:)

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BP Chief Tells Sky: 'CEO To Cede Oil Duties'


BP chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg has told Sky News that embattled chief executive Tony Hayward is to have a changed role in dealing with the oil spill.

The revelation came as BP denied claims from one of its partners that its handling of the Gulf of Mexico leak amounted to "gross negligence".

Anadarko Petroleum said BP's behaviour in the run-up to the disaster was "reckless".

Asked by Sky's Jeff Randall about Mr Hayward's ongoing role, Mr Svanberg said: "He is now handing over the operation to Bob Dudley."

Robert Dudley has been the firm's managing director of the Americas and Asia since 2009, and prior to the appointment he was head of TNK-BP, Russia's third largest oil and gas company.

Mr Svanberg also told Randall that comments made by Mr Hayward have had a detrimental effect as the company seeks to control the fallout from the disaster.

"It is clear Tony has made remarks that have upset people," he said.

The chairman explained that the CEO left Britain for the US after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig with the express purpose of dealing with the oil spill response, but stopping the flow has not gone to plan.

"Everyone thought it would be done faster," Mr Svanberg added.

BP's strategy had been for Mr Hayward to be the company's primary voice - but the oil firm has struggled with public relations, especially after his Congressional roasting on Wednesday.

Mr Svanberg admitted the rig blowout is turning from an industrial accident into a broader political concern, with questions of the company's ongoing viability being raised.

Read the complete interview transcript with Mr Svanberg.

The company is also marking more than £6bn in assets to sell, as well as withholding dividend payments to shareholders, to fund compensation claims.

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Gita
19th June 2010, 11:18
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Jesse Woodrow – BP Chief Peter Sutherland exposed

Peter Sutherland, a known globalist, stands at the end of at least 7 different new world order front groups. He is even the chief financial officer for the Vatican! It has been heavily documented that Goldman Sachs placed shorts on the Gulf just days before the Deepwater Horizon Explosion. Did Goldman Sachs get inside information from the chairman of their international subsidiary. who just so happens to be a high ranking member of British Petroleum?

He is non-executive Chairman of Goldman Sachs International (a registered UK broker-dealer, a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs). He was previously non-executive chairman of BP and was a director of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group until he was asked to leave the board when it had to be taken over by the UK government to avoid bankruptcy. He also formerly served on the board of ABB.
He is on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group [1], a chairman of the Trilateral Commission[2] and vice chairman of the European Round Table of Industrialists.[3]


Peter Sutherland: Chairman of BP & Goldman Sachs & Chief Financial Advisor to Vatican?

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Gita
19th June 2010, 11:42
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BP seeking billions for Gulf cleanup

Energy giant BP is asking for billion-dollar loans to help it resolve the oil spill crisis as crude continues to gush from an underwater well in the Gulf of Mexico.

BP PLC, battling to contain the oil spill under the Gulf of Mexico, now is seeking loans of $1 billion from each of seven banks to raise up to $7 billion.

The corporation may also raise five billion dollars in an unsecured bond.

US President Barack Obama has demanded that the company provide $20 billion for damage claims.

On Wednesday, BP announced plans to cut payments of dividends this year.

Experts say that despite different methods applied by BP for plugging the flow, 35 to 60 thousand barrels of oil are still spilling into the Gulf of Mexico every day.

Meanwhile, BP chief executive Tony Hayward has been relieved of day-to-day control of efforts to stop the oil spill, the company's chairman confirmed.

BP managing director Bob Dudley will now take charge of the response to the spill, which continues to threaten the Gulf Coast.


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freespirit
19th June 2010, 11:49
More UFO sightings baffle Capri residents
Bright white orb, pulsating lights
Ann Hall • special to marcoislandflorida.com • June 17, 2010

'On April 8, I wrote about the unusual sightings that my husband and I watched over Johnson's Bay for three consecutive nights.

We discovered that we were not the only ones to see the bright white ball of light that appeared out of nowhere and then sat silently about 150 feet above the water and mangroves March 27 through 29.

Morgan Beall, state section director with the Mutual Unidentified Flying Object Network, also known as MUFON, read this story and came to the Isles of Capri to investigate.

After speaking with Isles of Capri Fire/Rescue Chief Emilio Rodriguez and some of his staff as well as Mike Castellano, owner of Capri Fish House and his staff, Beall quickly learned that they, too, had witnessed the event and others like it in past months and years.

Beall's investigation revealed that residents of Marco Island and Naples had also witnessed similar sightings.

On April 20 at around 9:22 p.m., workers from Capri Fish House called Beall to report seeing the same light in the same area again, but a bit further away.

On that same night, four other residents of Capri also witnessed it. Each of them described the object as a strange motionless and silent white light that appeared to be pulsating a slight reddish or yellowish light off to the west over Johnson's Bay.

Beall and his partner came to Capri to investigate, but because they had to travel from Fort Myers, by the time they arrived at 11:15 p.m., the object was gone.

On May 26, and again June 10, more eye witnesses viewed this strange object.

This time it was in much closer, and on both nights it was seen between 9 p.m. and 11:15 p.m.

Chuck and Ginny Walton were the first to notice it May 26.

They came to our house and asked us to "come out to take a look."

We took our binoculars and were in awe of what we saw.

It was globe-shaped, and appeared to resemble a huge gyroscope. It hovered about 200 feet over the water in Capri Pass off to the west of us.

With the naked eye, we could see it pulsating a yellow and white light.

With binoculars, each of us could see the exquisite details of the object.'

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MorningSong
19th June 2010, 18:41
* Posted on Friday, June 18, 2010

Obama Officials Still Approving Flawed Gulf Drilling Plans

WASHINGTON — Despite President Barack Obama's promises of better safeguards for offshore drilling, federal regulators continue to approve plans for oil companies to drill in the Gulf of Mexico with minimal or no environmental analysis.

The Department of Interior's Minerals Management Service has signed off on at least five new offshore drilling projects since June 2, when the agency's acting director announced tougher safety regulations for drilling in the Gulf, a McClatchy review of public records has discovered.

Three of the projects were approved with waivers exempting them from detailed studies of their environmental impact — the same waiver the MMS granted to BP for the ill-fated well that's been fouling the Gulf with crude for two months.

In a May 14 speech in the Rose Garden, Obama said he was "closing the loophole that has allowed some oil companies to bypass some critical environmental reviews."

Environmental groups, however, say the loophole is as wide as ever and that the administration is allowing oil companies to proceed with drilling plans that may be just as flawed as BP's, which concluded that a major spill was "unlikely" and that the company was equipped to manage even the worst-case blowout.

"It's just outrageous," said Kieran Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity, a conservation organization. "The whole world is screaming and . . . they're just continuing to move this stuff through the system."

The Obama administration has said it's cracking down on the oil industry with a six-month moratorium that prevents regulators from granting new permits for offshore wells deeper than 500 feet underwater in the Gulf of Mexico. That, however, hasn't stopped oil companies from submitting new drilling plans, which, as McClatchy reported earlier this month, routinely underestimate environmental risks and overestimate the companies' ability to respond to a disaster.

According to MMS records, since June 2 the agency has granted environmental exemptions — known as "categorical exclusions" — to three new drilling projects. Of those, an Exxon Mobil site at a water depth of 1,000 feet and a Marathon Oil site at 775 feet are classified as deepwater; the third is a shallow-water project by Houston-based Rooster Petroleum.

Environmentalists say these approvals fly in the face of the June 2 order by acting MMS director Bob Abbey that requires oil companies to submit additional safety information in their development plans. All three drilling plans were submitted to the MMS before Abbey's order.

The MMS also approved two other deepwater drilling plans — for a Chevron site 6,730 feet underwater and for an Exxon site at a depth of 6,943 feet — after subjecting them to environmental reviews, the records show.

When Obama's six-month ban is lifted, experts say these projects could form the basis for new, flawed wells unless the MMS submits them to tougher oversight.

"At no point did any of the moratoriums cease the use of (categorical exclusions)," Suckling said. "They're cueing up all these drilling projects with no environmental review, so they're just sitting at the starting line" until the ban ends.

A spokesman for the Interior Department said the policy on categorical exclusions "is still being studied" as part of a 30-day congressionally mandated review of U.S. drilling policy. The department issued a separate directive Friday that requires oil companies to submit information about the possibility of a blowout, which had been missing from many drilling plans, but made no mention of the waivers.

Suckling's group filed a petition with the department this week to ban the waivers and charged that the MMS violated the 1970 National Environmental Policy Act when it approved a 2007 lease sale — including for BP's blown-out Macondo well — saying it would have "no significant environmental impacts."

The center also has filed suit in federal court in Louisiana to force the MMS to review all 49 exploration plans for the Gulf that were approved with categorical exclusions.

Other environmental groups have brought similar suits, with lawyers charging that the ongoing issuance of the waivers is part of a business-as-usual mentality among the oil industry and the Department of Interior.

Congressional investigators found that, 11 days before the April 20 explosion aboard BP's Deepwater Horizon rig, the company sent a letter to federal officials urging them to continue issuing the waivers "to avoid unnecessary paperwork and time delays."

"The fact that the agency continued to spit them out while oil was pouring into the Gulf is just ridiculous to the extreme," said Mike Senatore, an attorney for Defenders of Wildlife, a nonprofit environmental group.

There are other signs that the BP spill hasn't put the brakes on offshore drilling in the Gulf.

Last week, Defenders of Wildlife and the Southern Environmental Law Center filed suit in federal court in Alabama challenging the MMS's approval of 198 new deepwater leases in the central Gulf since the BP spill began.

The lease sales — an earlier step, before oil companies submit drilling plans — create an incentive to continue offshore drilling despite the risks, attorneys argue. If federal regulators opt to cancel a lease once it's issued, the government must repay the company the fair market value of the lease or compensate it for the cost of its bid plus interest, the lawyers said.

"It immediately puts the U.S. taxpayer on the hook financially," Senatore said.

The lawsuit challenges Lease Sale 213, which covers 36 million acres in the central Gulf off the coasts of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and drew $1.3 billion in bids at a March auction at the Superdome in New Orleans, according to MMS records. Of 198 deepwater leases sold, at least 10 are owned by BP and are located over a mile deep, the groups say.

"The moratorium does not stop this process," Senatore said.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/18/96185/federal-approval-still-flowing.html#ixzz0rKGAvPJ1


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Gita
19th June 2010, 20:02
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TEN QUAD TRILLION DOLLAR Notice of Lis Pendens on BP

Sovereign Citizens of the United States of America have filed a Lis Pendens against the British Crown on behalf of The People of America through its only legitimate agent, The United States of America.

The Lis Pendens was signed on June 15, 2010 by Trustees Charles C: Miller & Dean Arlo: Arp of 1402 Auburn Way N #416, Auburn, WA 98002 and delivered (faxed) June 16, 2010, unto the person of Her Majesty’s Treasury, The Rt. Honorable George Osborne MP, 21W1, HM Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London SW1A 2HQ.

Briefly, according to Wikipedia, “a Lis pendens is Latin for “suit pending.” This may refer to any pending lawsuit or to a specific situation with a public notice of litigation that has been recorded in the same location where the title of real property has been recorded. This notice secures a plaintiff’s claim on the property so that the sale, mortgage, or encumbrance of the property will not diminish plaintiff’s rights to the property, should the plaintiff prevail in its case. In some jurisdictions, when the notice is properly recorded, lis pendens is considered constructive notice to the other litigants or other unrecorded or subordinate lienholders. The term is sometimes abbreviated as “lis pend”.

In current practice, a lis pendens is a written notice that a lawsuit has been filed concerning real estate, involving either the title to the property or a claimed ownership interest in it. The notice is usually filed in the county land records office. Recording a lis pendens against a piece of property alerts a potential purchaser or lender that the property’s title is in question, which makes the property less attractive to a buyer or lender. After the notice is filed, anyone who nevertheless purchases the land or property described in the notice takes subject to the ultimate decision of the lawsuit.
The recording office will record a lis pendens upon request of anyone who claims to be entitled to do so (e.g. because he has filed a lawsuit). If someone else with an interest in the property (e.g. the owner) believes the lis pendens is not proper, he can then file suit to have it expunged.

Some states’ lis pendens statutes require the filer of the notice, in the event of a challenge to the notice, to establish that it has probable cause or a good likelihood of success on the merits of its case in the underlying lawsuit; other statutes do not have such a requirement.”

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Gita
19th June 2010, 20:07
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'BP oil spill escalates global warming'

Almost two months after the Gulf oil disaster, scientists maintain that the methane gas associated with the gushing crude can actually worsen global warming.

"Once methane bubbles up out of the water and gets into the atmosphere, it's a very, very powerful greenhouse gas. So it is actually making global warming worse, Michael Hirshfield, from an ocean environment group, told Press TV.

"When bacteria use methane as fuel, they're eating it, they use up oxygen and if there is no oxygen in the water all the animals suffocate. We've never had a situation like this before. Bacteria can certainly break it down, and they're doing that."

Hirshfield comments comes a day after scientists warned that the leaking oil in the Gulf of Mexico contains vast amounts of methane that could jeopardize the environment.

The London-based energy giant BP says it's capturing 25,000 barrels of oil from the sea every day. But huge amounts of oil are still oozing into the water.

"There's so much oil in the water, so much methane in the water, it is not clear how fast they are going to be able to process it all," Hirshfield said.

On Saturday, BP dismissed claims by one of its partners that its behavior in the run-up to the disaster had been reckless.

Earlier this week, a team of US government officials and independent scientists said BP's ruptured well could be leaking between 35,000 and 60,000 barrels of oil per day. Just last week, the team had estimated the leak was between 20,000 and 40,000 barrels a day.

This is while independent scientists put the leaking oil at 70,000 barrels per day.

The Deepwater Horizon offshore oil rig exploded in April killing 11 workers, to triggers the worst environmental disaster in the US history.

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Gita
20th June 2010, 08:27
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Why did Obama turn down offers of help?

Amazingly, it looks like Obama deliberately exacerbated the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster to push his ideological agenda. Seems he actually refused offers of help from other countries to fix the bust oil well, refusing to waive the trade union-inspired protectionist legislation which normally prohibits such assistance from being taken -- but which was waived by President Bush over Hurricane Katrina, as had been done by other Presidents in the past. Notes Hans Bader:

In April 2009, the Obama administration granted BP, a big supporter of Obama, a waiver of environmental regulations. But after the oil spill, it blocked Louisiana from protecting its coastline against the oil spill by delaying rather than expediting regulatory approval of essential protective measures. It has also chosen not to use what has been described as “the most effective method” of fighting the spill, a method successfully used in other oil spills. Democratic strategist James Carville called Obama’s handling of the oil spill “lackadaisical” and “unbelievable” in its “stupidity.”

Obama is now using BP’s oil spill to push the global-warming legislation that BP had lobbied for. Obama’s global warming legislation expands ethanol subsidies, which cause famine, starvation, and food riots in poor countries by shrinking the food supply. Ethanol makes gasoline costlier and dirtier, increases ozone pollution, and increases the death toll from smog and air pollution. Ethanol production also results in deforestation, soil erosion, and water pollution. Subsidies for biofuels like ethanol are a big source of corporate welfare: “BP has lobbied for and profited from subsidies for biofuels . . . that cannot break even without government support.”

Sheesh. The disaster in the Gulf of Mexico is exceeded only by the disaster in Pennsylvania Avenue...

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Gita
20th June 2010, 08:39
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BP says it's paid $104 million to Gulf residents

(CNN) -- BP said Saturday that it has paid $104 million to residents along the Gulf Coast who have filed claims related to the Gulf oil spill.


The company said it has issued more than 31,000 checks in the past seven weeks.
There was no immediate response from local, state or federal officials to BP's tally of its payments.


But earlier Saturday, as oil recovery efforts continued throughout the region, one Louisiana official tried out a new device of his own on: a reversible drum vac that he ordered online for $400.


Within 15 minutes, he said his crews had collected 55 gallons of oil and Nungesser -- vocally frustrated by the response from BP and the federal government -- was thinking about whipping out his credit card to pay for more pumps from an online site.


BP issued a press release Saturday detailing its response to Gulf residents affected by the spill. The company said it has received about 64,000 claims so far, and the average time from filing a claim to checks being issued is four days for individuals and seven days for "more complex business claims that have provided supporting documentation."


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Gita
20th June 2010, 08:45
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Critics Knock Wind Out Of BP Chief's Sails

Embattled BP chief executive Tony Hayward has spent the day sailing off the British coast amid confusion over his role in the oil spill clean-up.

The company has confirmed that Mr Hayward was still in charge of the disaster reponse in the Gulf of Mexico - despite comments by BP's chairman to Sky News that suggested otherwise.
Carl-Henric Svanberg told Sky News on Friday that Mr Hayward would be handing over responsibility for the clean-up operation to Robert Dudley, the firm's managing director of the Americas and Asia since 2009.

However, there was some confusion about when the CEO would relinquish daily control - with BP saying on Saturday he was still in charge and would be "until the leak is stopped".

In his interview with Sky's Jeff Randall, the company's chairman did concede that some comments made by Mr Hayward had "upset people".

But it was his actions, not his words, that appeared to be at odds with his role - spending Saturday competing in a yachting race around the Isle of Wight.

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Gita
20th June 2010, 08:49
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BP North Sea venture with Iran hit by US ban

The US has imposed sanctions on an Iranian oil company working with BP in the North Sea – listing it as a body that "persons should not do business with".


The move will be seen as further evidence of the fracturing relationship between the British energy giant and the US administration, following the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
President Obama has suggested BP's chief executive should be sacked, made the company create a $20bn (£13.5bn) compensation fund and forced it into suspending the dividend after the April 20 accident.


US officials this week added the Iranian Oil Company UK to its banned list. BP has a 50-50 joint venture with the business that US authorities now allege is "owned or controlled by the Government of Iran".

The joint venture is at the Rhum field, off the coast of Scotland – a £350m gas field, which has 800bn cubic feet of recoverable reserves. BP confirmed it has a joint venture with Iranian Oil Company UK, but declined to comment further.

American officials refused to say how the sanctions would affect BP. Although the rules apply only to transactions involving "US persons", the joint venture partnership is likely to further strain diplomatic relations between the US and the embattled British oil company.

It is now 61 days since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sank, triggering a catastrophic leak off the coast of Louisiana. BP's share price fell a further 1pc on Friday to 357.45p, after Moody's, the rating agency, downgraded BP by a further three notches to A2 from Aa2.


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Gita
20th June 2010, 09:39
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Oil blowout fumes sickening people in Atlanta--geologists says: "Where are the logs?"

Chris Landau has made a living as an engineer for decades. South African by birth, American citizen by naturalization and choice, Landau is at odds with many mainstream geologists. He is a proponent of the inorganic oil creation process. This process differs from what we were all taught in school. It poses that oil is the byproduct of natural deep earth processes and that oil doesn't come "from decayed plant matter."

As a product from earth processes, the stuff we call oil contains a variety of toxic, deadly chemicals. Landau says the Gulf catastrophe is caused by an oil well blow out. This is where gas pressure builds up and blows the well head. In this particular case, not only has the well head been blown, but the massive pressure inside the well, driven by a pool of gas that is thousands of miles deep and 20 miles across, have fractured the sea bottom. This has created additional splits in the earth, which allow more oil to bleed out of the earth, like black blood spewing from the earth's arteries.

Landau says this is not a "spill." A spill is finite. This is a blow out, an explosion of oil spewing out of the earth under great pressure. What is spewing out, blasting out with more pressure than we comprehend, is a toxic mixture of various chemicals, some of which can kill you at a mere 400 parts per million.

There's hydrogen sulfide, benzene, methane, pentane, propane, ethane, butane, and a host of other combinations of hydrogen and carbon. All are dangerous in various concentrations. They are dangerous to breath and dangerous to touch. They cause cancer, lung damage and death. Some of them are so dangerous they cause genetic damage, passing their destruction onto generations yet unborn.

Landau says that the methane problem we have does not come from cow farts. The increasing concentration of methane in the atmosphere is often caused by methane gases, escaping from deep in the earth.

Not everything on Earth is human-friendly. Some of those deep earth compounds are radioactive, poisonous and dangerous to the human and animal life which live on the surface of the planet. The earth has a variety of processes and elements, each specific to different parts of this world we live on. Just as the earth changes from the outer reaches of the atmosphere, so it changes at various depths within the planet.

And the changes are explained in different ways, depending upon whether you believe in a biologic theory of oil formation, or in the inorganic/abiogenic theory. However, whether oil is formed by deep earth process over short periods of time, or longer periods of time by decomposition of plant material, the fact remains: oil and petroleum products are dangerous to human health.

We can not breath or touch oil/oil byproducts without damaging our lungs, generating cancers or causing genetic damage to ourselves and our unborn children. Crude oil and its components are dangerous to organic life, to the oceans and life therein.


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SpoonMan
20th June 2010, 09:41
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/tmp/USA7.2010170.aqua.2km.jpg

astrid
20th June 2010, 10:59
wow ... really sorry to be the messenger of this one.....

"BP is Burning Sea Turtles Alive

Mike Ellis is a boat captain who's been rescuing the endangered Kemp's Ridley sea turtles near Deepwater Horizon. He's got some pretty horrifying news to share: BP is burning turtles caught in the oil spill and turning away rescue workers who want to save them. "

source..........

http://www.buzzfeed.com/turtlefeed/bp-is-burning-turtles-ruc

Chrononaut
20th June 2010, 11:48
Click on this link to see the following pictures, http://www.aladding.com/newsDetail.cfm?postid=496714

Greetings,

Chrononaut

astrid
20th June 2010, 13:42
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DOJ Criminal Investigation Could Stall BP Lawsuits
The BP oil spill has prompted a number of lawsuits against the company. However, those lawsuits are now in jeopardy of facing a legal limbo as a Department of Justice probe could temporarily bring the lawsuits to a halt. The U.S. Justice Department opened the investigation to determine whether there has been any criminal wrongdoing.

Once the government begins a criminal investigation, the companies involved in the lawsuits will have a legally valid reason to stop cooperating in the civil suits. Anything they offer could be used against them in a criminal trial. Individuals can simply "take the fifth" and refuse to answer questions.

A plaintiffs lawyer involved in the civil lawsuits, believes that the criminal investigation could detract from lawsuits.

"Criminal investigations... take years before they're over. ... If I want to take a deposition, and someone says, 'I'm under investigation by the DOJ. I can take the Fifth,' there's nothing I can do about it."

However not everyone believes that a criminal investigation will hurt plaintiffs' lawsuits. "Anything that they uncover could be used in our cases," said Scott Summy, whose Dallas firm has eight oil spill lawsuits. "That could also have a bearing on what judges think, what the public thinks -- that could help mold public opinion," Summy said.

In the end it becomes a bit of a tradeoff, as on the one hand, a government investigation might uncover solid evidence of wrongdoing, even criminal convictions, bolstering the civil lawsuits. On the other hand, it could cause the companies involved in the BP oil spill to become tight lipped and resist cooperation, possibly dragging the cases out for years, if not decades.

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http://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/2010/06/doj-criminal-investigation-could-stall-bp-lawsuits.html

astrid
20th June 2010, 13:53
The Bp Distraction.......

1121

Fredkc
20th June 2010, 14:23
Embattled BP chief executive Tony Hayward has spent the day sailing off the British coast amid confusion over his role in the oil spill clean-up.


Had a rough day at the hearings? Can't feel the love anymore?
Spend a day with Bob! (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/uk-ireland/bp-chief-sailing-into-pr-disaster-14849506.html)

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/post3/z_bob.jpg

Notice to BP:
If you are looking for a leadership change, for $6 million a year, I am rested and ready!


http://fredsitelive.com/personal/FredBoat.jpg

PS: Ahhh there's sad news...
If it's any consolation to the residents of the Gulf of Mexico, BP CEO Tony Hayward (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/20/bp-chief-yachts-gulf-oil-spill-burns/) didn't win the yacht race he attended this weekend. His 52-foot yacht, named "Bob," finished fourth in its class.

This poor guy can't seem to get a break, even when he does get his life back.

Gita
20th June 2010, 17:52
Thanks for the laugh Fred. :laugh:

This document is to help you understand what you see, hear, and read on the live feeds, in the news, etc. It includes many pictures as an aid to identification.

Deepwater Horizon MC252 BP Oil Spill Disaster Reference Material (http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddvbmqf2_0gt9p8q8q#Deepwater_Horizon_MC252_BP_Oil)

Gita
20th June 2010, 17:58
More damage to our planet! :shout:

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Egypt oil spill threatens Red Sea marine life

CAIRO (AFP) – An oil spill off the Egyptian Red Sea coast of Hurghada threatening to damage marine life in the area has prompted environmental agencies to demand tighter regulation of offshore oil platforms.

Large quantities of oil have appeared in recent days around the resorts of Hurghada which draw millions of tourists who come to dive or snorkle, according to the Hurghada Environmental Protection and Conservation Agency.

"It started four or five days ago and the companies responsible didn't notify anyone. It is catastrophic," HEPCA Managing Director Amr Ali told AFP.

The spill was caused by leakage from an offshore oil platform north of Hurghada and has polluted protected areas and showed up on tourist beach resorts.

"The companies have said they will pay damages, but it is the environmental damage that we are concerned about," Ali said, declining to name the companies for legal reasons.

"We will take all measures, including legal, to make sure this does not happen again," he said.


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Gita
20th June 2010, 18:58
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Marine wildlife forced to shallow waters, seek safety from oil

As BP’s Gulf of Mexico oil disaster continues creating its legacy, marine wildlife has begun exhibiting unusual and extreme behavior, searching for oxygen in shallow coastal waters or heading to inland marshes for final resting grounds.

While current estimates show BP’s Gulf of Mexico debacle between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons of crude oil per day pouring into the Gulf waters, marine wildlife has begun seeking cleaner and more oxygen-rich water near coastal shorelines. Oil-covered birds are seen walking and crawling to inland marshes, lost in the tally of affected wildlife.

Dolphins, sharks, crabs, rays and a variety of saltwater marine life have begun crowding Alabama and Florida's coastal shorelines, according to an Associated Press report. Their unusual behavior, researchers believe, is the result of normal habitats becoming so tainted with high levels of oil that oxygen levels become depleted.

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Gita
20th June 2010, 19:02
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White House Slams BP Boss For Sailing Trip

Barack Obama's chief of staff has criticised BP boss Tony Hayward for taking a sailing trip during the oil disaster claiming it is the latest "in a long line of gaffes".

The BP boss was pictured enjoying the JP Morgan Round the Island Race in the Isle of Wight on a yacht called Bob that he co-owns.

It is the latest in a series of PR blunders which has also seen Mr Hayward comment on Facebook that he wished the crisis were over so he could have his life back.

The White House led hostile criticism of the BP chief executive's decision with chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, mocking: "He's got his life back, as he would say."

Mr Hayward's actions were not just condemned in the US- environmental charities in the UK were also quick to criticise the embattled CEO.

A company spokeswoman said the BP boss was spending time with his son but continued: "We wouldn't dream of commenting on what the chief executive does in his rare moments of private time."

Millions of gallons of oil are continuing to threaten the Gulf Coast after the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion killed 11 workers in April.

Since the disaster began, BP has been criticised for its inability to stop the leak with Mr Hayward accused of "stonewalling" a Washington Congressional Committee over the cause of the explosion.

On Friday, company chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg said Mr Hayward had been relieved of day-to-day control of the spill and that BP managing director Bob Dudley would take over.

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Gita
20th June 2010, 20:03
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Louisiana lawmakers propose prayer to stop oil disaster

You've seen the devastation. Now it's your chance to help. Tune in Monday night for a special "Larry King Live, Disaster in the Gulf: How You Can Help" telethon featuring an all-star panel of guests joining forces in the Gulf region. Don't miss "Larry King Live," 8 p.m. ET Monday on CNN.

(CNN) -- While cleanup crews and technical teams continue efforts to stop crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana lawmakers are proposing a different approach: prayer.
State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God's help dealing with the oil disaster.

"Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail," state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week's unanimous vote for the day of prayer. "It is clearly time for a miracle for us."

The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast "to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood."

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Grizzom
21st June 2010, 04:53
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Gita
21st June 2010, 07:44
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Okaloosa defies Unified Command over East Pass plans (VIDEOS, PHOTOS)

DESTIN — Okaloosa County isn’t taking oil spill orders any more.

County commissioners voted unanimously to give their emergency management team the power to take whatever action it deems necessary to prevent oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill from entering Choctawhatchee Bay through the East Pass.

Hundreds of tar balls wash up overnight -- read the latest update.

That means the team, led by Public Safety Director Dino Villani, can take whatever action it sees fit to protect the pass without having its plans approved by state or federal authorities.


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Gita
21st June 2010, 07:48
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BP 'estimated higher oil amount' from Gulf well leak

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A BP document has revealed the company estimated that 100,000 barrels of oil a day could, in theory, flow from the ruptured Gulf of Mexico well.

That amount, included in an undated internal document released by US Congressman Ed Markey, is nearly twice the current US estimate of the leak.

BP says the 100,000 figure is not relevant as it is not based on reality.

US lawmakers have repeatedly accused BP of not being straightforward about the true size of the spill.

Mr Markey - a senior Democrat and chairman of one of the committees investigating the Gulf spill - said the document raised troubling questions about what BP knew about the size of the spill and when they knew it.

"First they said it was only 1,000 barrels, then they said it was 5,000 barrels, now we're up to 100,000 barrels," he told NBC's Meet the Press programme.

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rhythm
21st June 2010, 07:48
have to thank you yet again gita for all you skill and dedication ... keeping us informed ..
i also know you dont need thanks or appreciation ... but i feel the need to give ti
bless your heart ...love and kindness rhythmm :kiss:

Gita
21st June 2010, 07:52
Thanks for your lovely words Rhythm. :hug::kiss:

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A Message to Obama on the Gulf Coast Guard – Updates for June 20th

Thank God the Governor of Louisiana refused to be intimidated by the Coast Guard.

Sixteen barges were stationary for 24 hours. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that was working until the Coast Guard shut the operation down because they couldn’t confirm there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board.

A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the same goal as the governor.

But the coast guard, the media, BP and Obama don’t seem to be aware of the caliber of disaster affecting the Gulf Coast and the nation since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20.
The BP Oil spill has the makings of a perfect storm because one can visibly see the cracks in the ocean floor when reviewing tapes of the live BP feeds. In the tape dated 6/13/2010 you can see oil spewing up from visible fissions.

The pressure at the base of the wellhead deep under the ocean floor is approx. 100,000 PSI. There is no known device to cap a well with such a high PSI pressure. To further complicate things geologists using a GPS and Depth finder system have discovered a large gas bubble 15-20 miles across and tens of feet high under the ocean floor.

A bubble of this magnitude if able to escape from under the ocean floor through a crack would cause a gas explosion that can only be described as Mt. St. Helen’s under water.

The explosion would take place 50 miles off the Louisiana Coast, instantly releasing a toxic cloud that the winds would carry to the shorelines. This explosion would also create what is called a Cavitations’, sinking any ships, oil structures virtually anything floating atop the water instantly within at least a 10 mile radius, and thus could create a Tsunami which would travel towards the coast of Florida at a speed of 400-600 miles per hour. This has the potential of putting the state of Florida under water. Gulf Coast Disaster, Is it The Perfect Storm?


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Gita
21st June 2010, 07:55
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Times Picayune: BP confirms blowout preventer is “tilting”

Oil spill containment efforts could be putting strain on damaged well, New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 18, 2010:

Meanwhile, observers monitoring the video feeds from the robotic vehicles working on the sea floor have noticed BP measuring a tilt in the 40-ton blowout preventer stack with a level and a device called an inclinometer.

Odone, the BP spokesman, confirmed that his company has been monitoring the lean of the blowout preventer, which BP believes began tilting when the Deepwater Horizon rig sank and the riser pipe got bent. …

Bea said BP isn’t sharing enough information for others to know. If there is oil and gas escaping from the sides of the well, it could erode the sediments around the well and eat away at the support for all the heavy equipment that sits above. Bea said reports that BP is using an inclinometer is significant news. “It tells me that they are also concerned,” he said.

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Gita
21st June 2010, 08:01
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As oil gushes in Gulf, eyes are on sands to north in Alberta

"Geography has made us neighbors. History has made us friends. Economy has made us partners. Necessity has made us allies."

- President John F. Kennedy, in an address to the Canadian Parliament in 1961

The potential is staggering, the implications mind-bending.

Even as millions of gallons of oil billow into the Gulf of Mexico from the BP spill, trillions lie in wait beneath the surface in northeastern Alberta and western Saskatchewan.

America long ago swung its petroleum-thirsty snout northward to Canada and away from overseas producers.

Now, as President Barack Obama wrestles with the Gulf disaster, while a national energy policy keeps bumping its head against the U.S. Senate, as new pipelines from Canadian oil fields are championed and excoriated, and as activists introduce Montana and the rest of the nation to a list of environmental transgressions in what they call the "tar sands," the door appears wide open to expedited mining and drilling by our neighbors, friends, partners and allies to the north.

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Gita
21st June 2010, 08:10
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BP document: Worst-case scenario -- 4.2 million gallons daily in Gulf

You've seen the devastation. Now it's your chance to help. Tune in Monday night for a special "Larry King Live, Disaster in the Gulf: How You Can Help" telethon featuring an all-star panel of guests joining forces in the Gulf region. Don't miss "Larry King Live," 8 p.m. ET Monday on CNN.

(CNN) -- A BP estimate made after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon noted that as much as 100,000 barrels per day could leak into the ocean if the blowout preventer and wellhead were removed, a higher worst-case scenario than previously reported.

According to an internal BP document released Sunday by Rep. Edward Markey, D-Massachusetts, BP believed that the worst-case scenario could be as high as 100,000 barrels, or 4.2 million gallons of oil per day.

The figure is the highest yet to surface regarding the leaking oil well. At the disaster's outset, BP claimed the leak was about 1,000 barrels a day, a number it later revised to 5,000 and then much higher. BP told the House Energy and Commerce Committee that the worst-case scenario was 60,000 barrels (2.5 million gallons) a day, lower than what the document states.

The document, submitted in May, maintains the 60,000 barrel estimate, but stipulates that if the "blowout preventer and wellhead are removed and if we have incorrectly modeled the restrictions, the rate could be as high as 100,000 barrels a day."

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Gita
21st June 2010, 08:14
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Gulf oil spill: A hole in the world

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is not just an industrial accident – it is a violent wound inflicted on the Earth itself. In this special report from the Gulf coast, a leading author and activist shows how it lays bare the hubris at the heart of capitalism


Everyone gathered for the town hall meeting had been repeatedly instructed to show civility to the gentlemen from BP and the federal government. These fine folks had made time in their busy schedules to come to a high school gymnasium on a Tuesday night in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, one of many coastal communities where brown poison was slithering through the marshes, part of what has come to be described as the largest environmental disaster in US history.

"Speak to others the way you would want to be spoken to," the chair of the meeting pleaded one last time before opening the floor for questions.

And for a while the crowd, mostly made up of fishing families, showed remarkable restraint. They listened patiently to Larry Thomas, a genial BP public relations flack, as he told them that he was committed to "doing better" to process their claims for lost revenue – then passed all the details off to a markedly less friendly subcontractor. They heard out the suit from the Environmental Protection Agency as he informed them that, contrary to what they have read about the lack of testing and the product being banned in Britain, the chemical dispersant being sprayed on the oil in massive quantities was really perfectly safe.

But patience started running out by the third time Ed Stanton, a coast guard captain, took to the podium to reassure them that "the coast guard intends to make sure that BP cleans it up".


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Gita
21st June 2010, 08:20
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New Gulf oil leak figure: 100,000 bpd

New figures indicate that up to 100,000 barrels of oil a day may be gushing into the sea from BP's blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

Representative Ed Markey, chairman of the energy and environment subcommittee of the Committee on Energy and Commerce in the US House of Representatives, released an internal BP document on Sunday that revealed the new figure which is considerably more than announced earlier.

The actual amount of oil being released from the well has been a matter of controversy with BP being accused of deliberately understating the leakage rate.

"This document raises very troubling questions about what BP knew and when they knew it," Reuters quoted Markey as saying.

"It is clear that, from the beginning, BP has not been straightforward with the government or the American people about the true size of this spill. Now the families living and working in the Gulf are suffering from their incompetence," he emphasized.

More than 60 days into the Gulf oil spill disaster, BP has still not been able to contain the gusher at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

BP's CEO Tony Hayward drew the ire of many Gulf coast residents Saturday when it became public that he took time off to go boating with his son instead of dealing with the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Millions of gallons of oil have poured into the Gulf since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded on April 20, Killing 11 workers and blowing out the well.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:01
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Iran Experts Ready To Help Resolve BP Oil Spills Crisis

TEHRAN, June 22 (Bernama) -- Experts of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) are ready to help resolve the Gulf of Mexico oil spill crisis if the IRGC receives an official request, Mehr News Agency cited IRGC Brigadier General Rostam Qasemi as saying.


"If Americans and Britons and also the Western companies find themselves incapable of capping the oil spill, (they can) ask Iran, (we) will study the case, and send� IRGC experts to the region to help prevent the continuation of this serious crisis," Qasemi said.


On April 20, an explosion occurred at an oilrig of the British oil giant BP in the Gulf of Mexico, which resulted in an oil spill that has yet to be capped.

BP has spent US$2 billion so far in efforts to contain the oil spill and for compensation payments, with no end in sight to the disaster or the price tag.


Qasemi added that Iran has the experience in containing oil spills in some neighbouring countries in the Persian Gulf such as Kuwait.


He said that the world is concerned about the environmental crisis unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico and its potential effect on the lives of residents of Caribbean islands.


"If the oil spill enters the sea currents, it will spread to the coasts of Jamaica and other countries, causing an environmental and humanitarian catastrophe," he added.


The BP released its latest tally of response costs on Monday, including US$105 million paid out so far to 32,000 claimants. The figure does not include a US$20 billion fund that BP PLC last week agreed to set up for Gulf residents and businesses hurt by the spill.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:08
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Oil spill brings 'catastrophe' to Egypt

Egyptian oil spill in the Red Sea has caused a new environmental catastrophe, prompting an outcry among activists that call for tighter offshore regulations.

Huge quantities of crude gushing from Egypt's offshore platforms in the Red Sea have reached the coasts of Egyptian tourist hub Hurghada, AFP reported.

Hurghada attracts millions of tourists for diving and snorkeling, the report says.

Hurghada Environmental Protection and Conservation Agency (HEPCA) says the leak started about 4-5 days ago but the companies in charge, covered up the "catastrophic" incident.

Officials have declined to reveal the name of the liable companies, the report said.

Egypt's environment and tourism ministries state that the leak is contained and preparations have been made to clean up the pollution.

HEPCA, however, criticized the government's insufficient reaction. It called for a clearer plan of action to prevent further environmental disasters.

"We would also like to see more stringent standards imposed on these offshore platforms to ensure natural areas are protected," said HEPCA Managing Director Amr Ali.

In recent weeks, oil spills from offshore rigs have caused severe environmental disasters across the globe.

The United States is embroiled in its worst environmental disaster after BP's Deepwater Horizon collapsed, gushing about a million gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico.

Elsewhere in Nigeria, the government has threatened to levy punitive sanctions against ExxonMobil, if the giant US oil company fails to contain the crude spills from offshore platforms in Nigeria's southeast Akwa Ibom State.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:16
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Goldman Sachs beat oil spill debacle with BP shares sell-off

Goldman Sachs sold more than half of its stock in troubled energy giant BP before the Gulf oil spill in April.

The investment bank's prescience is revealed in filings to Wall Street watchdog the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

Those show that between January and March of this year, Goldman sold 4.9 million shares across three separate funds — 58% of the bank's total holding.

Goldman is itself facing legal action for its role in the subprime mortgage debacle. Until BP ran into trouble, it was perhaps the most under fire company in America.

The bank has a record of astute selling ahead of major disasters. It was shorting the US housing market before the real estate bubble burst.

Goldman isn't the only investor to be ahead of the curve. Neil Woodford of Invesco Perpetual sold out of both BP and Royal Dutch Shell in October 2009. He was concerned about the rising costs of exploration and the falling oil price, fearing these factors could hamper their ability to reward shareholders.

Other large BP shareholders to have cut their stake as the share price tumbled include Legal & General, M&G, Scottish Widows and Axa.

Some City analysts now argue that the shares have been so battered they are now cheap. However, advisers note that they are for brave investors only given the risks that remain to the company's future.


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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:22
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On Saturday, June 19, 2010, oil spread northeast from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil appears as a maze of silvery-gray ribbons in this photo-like image from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra satellite.

The location of the leaking well is marked with a white dot. North of the well, a spot of black may be smoke; reports from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say that oil and gas continue to be captured and burned as part of the emergency response efforts.

The large image provided above is at MODIS’ maximum spatial resolution (level of detail). Twice-daily images of the Gulf of Mexico are available from the MODIS Rapid Response Team in additional resolutions and formats, including a georeferenced version that can be used in Google Earth.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:35
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BP Chief Cancels Oil Responsibility Speech

BP chief executive Tony Hayward has cancelled his appearance at an oil conference - as a whistleblower issued a further attack on the company's safety practices.

The pullout follows stinging criticism of Mr Hayward's weekend outing to the Isle of Wight to see his boat compete in a high-profile yacht race. Mr Hayward had been due to give the keynote speech about the global responsibilities of international oil companies at the annual World National Oil Companies Congress, a BP spokesman said. But the chief executive said he needs to focus on the clean-up operation in the Gulf of Mexico.

The spokesman confirmed Mr Hayward's deputy, Steve Westwell, will take his place at the conference. However, he declined to say whether the chief executive would be returning to the US.

A Deepwater Horizon survivor has claimed he spotted a fault before the blast.

Meanwhile, in another assault on BP's safety procedures, a former Deepwater Horizon worker has claimed he identified a leak in the oil rig's safety equipment weeks before the explosion, which killed 11 people.

In an interview with the BBC's Panorama programme, Tyrone Benton said he had spotted a fault in one of the control pods operating the so-called 'blowout preventer'. The mechanism is designed to shut off the flow from the well in the event of a catastrophic failure - but it failed when the rig exploded on April 20, allowing oil to gush out. Mr Benton claimed the problem was not immediately repaired, despite emails sent to both BP, which ran the rig, and Transocean Ltd, which owned it. He said the pod was instead shut down and a second one relied upon to operate the preventer.
Mr Benton said he did not know if the faulty pod was ever turned back on before the disaster. In a statement, BP said it was aware of the allegations, but that Transocean Ltd was responsible "for both the operation and maintenance" of the 'blowout preventer'.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 08:40
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Judge may rule on deepwater drilling moratorium Tuesday

(CNN) -- A judge in New Orleans may rule Tuesday on whether to lift the federal government's moratorium on deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has said he will give his decision between early Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon on whether to issue a preliminary injunction against the six-month ban, which halts all drilling in more than 500 feet of water and prevents new permits from being issued.

Brian Collins, an attorney for the Justice Department, insisted Monday that the suspension is necessary while officials conduct a safety review after the Deepwater Horizon explosion.

But a group of companies that provide boats and equipment to the offshore drilling industry filed a lawsuit claiming the government has no evidence that existing operations pose a threat to the Gulf of Mexico. They want a court to declare the moratorium invalid and unenforceable.

The office of Louisiana's governor has filed a brief supporting their case.

"This is environmental disaster. Let's not make an economic disaster," Henry Dart, an attorney for the state of Louisiana, said Monday.

Government estimates indicate as much as 60,000 barrels (2.5 million gallons) of oil may be flowing into the Gulf every day, and the gusher has already taken a serious toll on tourism and the fishing industry in Gulf Coast states.

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Gita
22nd June 2010, 09:14
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Navy To Take Over Gulf Spill From Coast Guard?

The Gulf oil spill is a monumental disaster, with sea, plant, animal, and human life sure to be affected for years to come.As the leak continues to gush out of control, it seems it may be beyond the scope of mankind’s technology.

On Sunday, Senator Shelby stated that ” We get 30% of our oil from the gulf…. we need hands on regulation… but we need the energy… the regulators need to be on top of the industry”. Shelby has concluded that the ban on drilling in the Gulf is not good for the economy, which may prove to be true.

Another interesting topic that was tossed around on this particular CBS broadcast was the possibility of the NAVY taking over. Senator Barbara Boxer along with Sen. Nelson have called for the NAVY to take over the oil spill using “command and control” tactics. “Accelerate it…. get the NAVY in there now” said Boxer, on CBS’s Face the Nation.

The Army is already openly involved and now it looks as if the Navy will soon follow. These events may be part of the “Battle Plan” that Obama mentioned in his Address to the Nation.
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Gita
22nd June 2010, 09:20
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BP and Government knew about problems with Deepwater Horizon in Feb.

BP Plc was struggling to seal cracks in its Macondo well as far back as February, more than two months before an explosion killed 11 and spewed oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

It took 10 days to plug the first cracks, according to reports BP filed with the Minerals Management Service that were later delivered to congressional investigators. Cracks in the surrounding rock continued to complicate the drilling operation during the ensuing weeks. Left unsealed, they can allow explosive natural gas to rush up the shaft.

“Once they realized they had oil down there, all the decisions they made were designed to get that oil at the lowest cost,” said Peter Galvin of the Center for Biological Diversity, which has been working with congressional investigators probing the disaster. “It’s been a doomed voyage from the beginning.”

BP didn’t respond to calls and e-mails seeking comment. The company’s shares rose 22 pence to 359 pence today in London after the company struck a deal with the Obama administration yesterday to establish a $20 billion fund to pay cleanup costs and compensation. BP has lost 45 percent of its market value since the catastrophe.

On Feb. 13, BP told the minerals service it was trying to seal cracks in the well about 40 miles (64 kilometers) off the Louisiana coast, drilling documents obtained by Bloomberg show. Investigators are still trying to determine whether the fissures played a role in the disaster.
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Gita
22nd June 2010, 09:24
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Air tests from the Louisiana coast reveal human health threats from the oil disaster

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The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher.

Today the Louisiana Environmental Action Network released its analysis of air monitoring test results by the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA’s air testing data comes from Venice, a coastal community 75 miles south of New Orleans in Louisiana’s Plaquemines Parish.

The findings show that levels of airborne chemicals have far exceeded state standards and what’s considered safe for human exposure.

For instance, hydrogen sulfide has been detected at concentrations more than 100 times greater than the level known to cause physical reactions in people. Among the health effects of hydrogen sulfide exposure are eye and respiratory irritation as well as nausea, dizziness, confusion and headache.

The concentration threshold for people to experience physical symptoms from hydrogen sulfide is about 5 to 10 parts per billion. But as recently as last Thursday, the EPA measured levels at 1,000 ppb. The highest levels of airborne hydrogen sulfide measured so far were on May 3, at 1,192 ppb.

Testing data also shows levels of volatile organic chemicals that far exceed Louisiana’s own ambient air standards. VOCs cause acute physical health symptoms including eye, skin and respiratory irritation as well as headaches, dizziness, weakness, nausea and confusion.

Louisiana’s ambient air standard for the VOC benzene, for example, is 3.76 ppb, while its standard for methylene chloride is 61.25 ppb. Long-term exposure to airborne benzene has been linked to cancer, while the EPA considers methylene chloride a probable carcinogen.

Air testing results show VOC concentrations far above these state standards. On May 6, for example, the EPA measured VOCs at levels of 483 ppb. The highest levels detected to date were on April 30, at 3,084 ppb, following by May 2, at 3,416 ppb.

Here’s a chart based on the data from LEAN’s analysis, which was done by award-winning analytical chemist Wilma Subra:

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Ross
22nd June 2010, 09:28
Default Re: Latest Updates - (Please only post TEXT or PHOTOS here)

OOPS - sorry for the HUGE pic above!

thats not HUGE....its COSMOS size....poor bandwidth...:p

Peace

Gita
22nd June 2010, 09:45
Default Re: Latest Updates - (Please only post TEXT or PHOTOS here)

OOPS - sorry for the HUGE pic above!

thats not HUGE....its COSMOS size....poor bandwidth...:p

Peace

:heh::laugh:

Shall I remove it Ross and just leave the link? Or can the bandwidth take it??:becky:

Etherios
22nd June 2010, 09:48
What are the ppl in luisianna doing about these toxic air fumes coming to them? Any gov reaction?

Damn it ppl will start fall dead till the ppl wake up ... lately all i am looking for is some positive news. Everything looks gloomy at best.

Ross
22nd June 2010, 10:10
:heh::laugh:

Shall I remove it Ross and just leave the link? Or can the bandwidth take it??:becky:

Gita my dear, normally I'd say leave it but in this case seen as its the size of texas I'd vote for a link 'outside' to the source...sorry....but hey, I'm lovin your 'on the front line' with your ferriting skills,

thanks.

Ross

Gita
22nd June 2010, 10:20
No probs Ross. :)

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Deprived of Livelihood, Gulf Shrimpers Work for BP Instead

Boat Owners Earn Up to $3,000 A Day Using Trawlers to Gather Oil

A Chance to Work In Tough Times

A service representative at the Vessels of Opportunity hotline tells ABC News that hundreds of interested boat owners call the line every day, some even dialing in from other parts of the country. He points out that BP only allows only local boat owners to participate, particularly those whose livelihood has been affected by the spill.

"We've had people call us from Michigan, saying can I come down and work," says the representative, who did not want to be named.

After a slow start, the Vessels of Opportunity program offers shrimpers a chance to work during tough economic times.

While shrimpers can catch up to $60,000 worth of shrimp on a good day, according to the Shrimp Alliance, the year's two seasons only last a total of nine months. The U.S. shrimp industry has also been hammered by competition from cheaper markets such as Thailand, China and Ecuador, which has dragged prices down and pushed many shrimpers to the edge of economic survival.


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pyrangello
22nd June 2010, 11:53
To all,
Just for the record yesterday they started saying it could be now 100,000 barrels a day, what a suprize. One suggestion was to take a 90,000 ton air craft carrier and sink it above the oil outlet pipe, great idea but there appears to be many other ruptures besides this outlet of the pipe. Alot of this is not good news however keep thinking this will be corrected , lots of thoughts of prayers for this to happen DAILY. Together mountains can be moved, stay positive .




Oil is Blasting into the Gulf at an Unspeakable Rate




June 18, 2010

I am a longtime resident of the West Coast of Florida. While there is a major media blackout of any real information or warnings, we are feeling effects of this oil and the associated chemicals even here, where one has yet to see any oil upon our shores. My closest friend is a Nurse Practitioner at a local clinic here. She and her associates throughout the area have seen countless and increasing incidences over the past few weeks of sometimes severe throat, eye, and skin irritation as well as other symptoms. This is being reported to the CDC so may escalate the rumored mass evacuations. I am experiencing some of those same symptoms, especially as of late. Today,, a Military Pilot who is flying reconnaissance missions in the Gulf came for an office visit and they began to chat about the Gulf of Mexico oil crisis. It turns out that they are both like-minded patriots and the conversation continued about the crisis in the Gulf of Mexico. Feeling comfortable in speaking, he finally intimated to her that 40% of the Gulf of Mexico sea bed is now covered with oil. This has been escalated by the fact that the Deepwater Horizon rig well-head has now completely blown off. This is why the flow is appearing to come out in rather a "V"-shape. Oil is now blasting into the Gulf at an unspeakable rate and this insurmountable flow is acting as a laser, further cutting open the seabed from forces from the abiotic oil violently erupting from earth's core like her very blood. It is forecast that oil could make it around the world within 18 months. In other words, we now have the nightmare scenario some of us have feared. It is with an absolutely broken heart that I report all of this to you and fervently pray for God's divine hand of mercy. Yet I fear we may only be able to thank our Lord for the blessings and memory of the once-pristine and breathtaking treasure that was the Gulf of Mexico.

Thank you for your time in allowing me to share this information.

With blessings, JB

Gita
22nd June 2010, 18:36
Pyrangello my dearest - thank you for sharing the above info - very appreciated. I do feel for you all over there and my heart felt prayers are with you all.:hug:

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Protesters Interrupt BP Stand-In's Speech

Protesters have interrupted an oil conference speech being given by a BP representative covering for the firm's chief executive Tony Hayward.

Mr Hayward had been due to give the keynote speech about the global responsibilities of international oil companies at the annual World National Oil Companies Congress.

But the chief executive pulled out, saying he needed to focus on the clean-up operation in the Gulf of Mexico.

The move followed stinging criticism of Mr Hayward's weekend outing to the Isle of Wight to see his boat compete in a high-profile yacht race.

His place was taken instead by Steve Westwell, BP's chief of staff.

Reporting from the location of the conference in central London, Sky's Enda Brady said: "Mr Westwell was about 30 seconds into his speech, apologising for the non-show of his chief executive, when demonstrators got on stage.

"There were three to begin with. One woman grabbed the microphone and she called for what she termed the "end of the age of oil".

"Then they were bundled out by security.

"Mr Westwell picked up his speech, talking about the lessons learned from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, when he was interrupted by another protester."

Brady added that no arrests were made, despite a considerable police presence.

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:27
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The Spill, The Scandal and the President
The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years – and let the world's most dangerous oil company get away with murder

On May 27th, more than a month into the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history, Barack Obama strode to the podium in the East Room of the White House. For weeks, the administration had been insisting that BP alone was to blame for the catastrophic oil spill in the Gulf – and the ongoing failure to stop the massive leak. "They have the technical expertise to plug the hole," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs had said only six days earlier. "It is their responsibility." The president, Gibbs added, lacked the authority to play anything more than a supervisory role – a curious line of argument from an administration that has reserved the right to assassinate American citizens abroad and has nationalized much of the auto industry. "If BP is not accomplishing the task, can you just federalize it?" a reporter asked. "No," Gibbs replied.

Now, however, the president was suddenly standing up to take command of the cleanup effort. "In case you were wondering who's responsible," Obama told the nation, "I take responsibility." Sounding chastened, he acknowledged that his administration had failed to adequately reform the Minerals Management Service, the scandal-ridden federal agency that for years had essentially allowed the oil industry to self-regulate. "There wasn't sufficient urgency," the president said. "Absolutely I take responsibility for that." He also admitted that he had been too credulous of the oil giants: "I was wrong in my belief that the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst-case scenarios." He unveiled a presidential commission to investigate the disaster, discussed the resignation of the head of MMS, and extended a moratorium on new deepwater drilling. "The buck," he reiterated the next day on the sullied Louisiana coastline “stops with me."

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Continued here. (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:30
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It's Raining Oil In Florida - Sickness Spreads

Is It Raining Oil in Florida? This is Just the Beginning

The Greenpeace senior campaigner Lindsey Allen walks through a patch of oil from the Deepwater Horizon on the breakwater in the mouth of the Mississippi river where it meets the Gulf of Mexico in Louisiana

(SOTT.net) As early as May 9 it was announced that FEMA evacuation protocol for forest fires in and around Tampa, Florida could be activated at a moment's notice in the event of the oil slick approaching Florida's coastline. One proposal is to undergo a 'controlled burn' of surface oil in the Gulf to prevent the oil reaching Florida's coast. This would result in highly toxic fumes blowing ashore. In fact, toxic fumes have already been reported elsewhere as Gulf residents complain of breathing difficulties and nausea:

Oil is semi-volatile, which means that it can evaporate into the air and create a heavy vapor that stays near the ground -- in the human breathing zone. When winds whip up oily sea water, the spray contains tiny droplets -- basically a fume -- of oil, which are small enough to be inhaled deep into the lungs. We know that's happening in the Gulf Coast, because people are reporting a heavy oily smell in the air. Already my colleagues in Louisiana are reporting that people in the coastal community of Venice, Louisiana are suffering from nausea, vomiting, headaches, and difficulty breathing.
The following eyewitness account came to our attention yesterday:
Hi all,

Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!

I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!

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Continued here. (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/209378-Is-It-Raining-Oil-In-Florida-This-Is-Just-The-Beginning)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:36
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BP's First Nightmare Is Now Named Alex: Tropical Storm Heading For Gulf Of Mexico Ground Zero

It was only a matter of time before "inclement weather" tested the BP falling knifers. Provisionally titled Tropical Storm Alex (currently disturbance 93L), the first tropical storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, is now expected to enter the GoM area as soon as next week, causing unpredictable and possibly irreparable harm to BP's clean up efforts. And this is just the beginning: as Bloomberg reminds: "Forecasters are predicting this year’s Atlantic hurricane season, which runs from June 1 to Nov. 30, may be among the most active on record...Three storms, two of them hurricane-level, may pass through the oil spill area, while three more may come close enough to affect cleanup operations and other rig activity, AccuWeather Inc. chief hurricane forecaster Joe Bastardi said." We are confident all those who have written exhaustive multi-page investment theses vouching their certainty that BP is at least a doublebagger have factored in such completely unpredictable factors as 100+ mph winds and currents that bring BP's tarballs all the way up to Virginia along the eastern seaboard.

How is BP preparing for this contingency? With yet more promises.

BP is developing a new containment response that will help clean-up operators to connect and disconnect oil-recovery systems faster, allowing the company to capture more oil ahead of and following a storm, said John Pack, a BP spokesman in London. Some of the changes will be ready before July, he said.

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Continued here. (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/bps-first-nightmare-now-named-alex-tropical-storm-heading-gulf-mexico-ground-zero)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:42
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Jack McLamb: BLM Involvement aboard Deepwater Horizon?

According to Alex Jones, during a commercial for his LIVE Infowars broadcast, he spoke with officer Jack McLamb, who passed on some startling information.

“Jack McLamb has confirmed through his sources that the Bureau of Land Management was involved with planting bombs aboard the Deepwater Horizion oil rig”.

This could be big if McLambs sources are indeed correct. McLambs radio show airs tonight at 5 PM Pacific/ 8 PM Eastern. As of now the Intel Hub is trying to contact McLamb to verify his statement.
The BLM involvement aboard the Deepwater Horizon was first mentioned on The Invisible Hand with Tracy Twyman by Zac Zimmerman of Zimerman Oil Co. The Intel Hub has been working with this same information for awhile and believes it holds some weight. In a May 5, 2010 article we ran titled ” The BP Oil Spill, Horrible Accident Or Well Calculated Plan” which laid out what we knew as of early May.

Another interesting article titled “ Oil Platforms Designed To Burn Forever” points out how it is very uncommon for steel structures to collapse from fire which was also apparent from the 9/11 investigations. Some platforms have been known to burn for weeks with little to no structural damage

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Source. (http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/22/jack-mclamb-bombs-planted-on-deepwater-horizon-by-blm/)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:47
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Internal Revenue Service may tax Gulf Coast damage claims following Deepwater Horizon oil spill

The Internal Revenue Service may take a bite out of that $20 billion Gulf spill fund. And locals are fuming.

Many residents were already surprised that BP took so long to dish out payments. So when they got their compensation -- a few thousand dollars each -- they spent it quickly.

“"If they're going to pay you a lump sum, like for a year, then bam, take the taxes out of the check," said Todd Pellegal, an unemployed Gulf Coast shrimper from Boothville, La. "But a little bit at a time, they shouldn't."

Pellegal said he immediately spent his $2,500 check buying groceries for his family and paying off bills.

President Barack Obama created a $20 billion disaster relief fund last week to compensate victims who have lost their livelihood after placing a six-month ban on deepwater drilling in the region

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Continued here (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/22/2010-06-22_internal_revenue_service_may_tax_gulf_coast_damage_claims_following_deepwater_ho.html).

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:55
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Over 2,000 Skimmers Available In US That Obama Refuses To Use

If one was a cynic than you would believe that the complete inaction on the part of this adminstration was purposeful and used in an effort to perhaps ram through their agenda. A crisis was created, its almost as if it is deliberately not being fixed, clear options on the table are not being used and one can only wonder why!

Senator Lemieux spoke with President Obama and the exchange between the two over the 2,000 skimmers in the US currently going unused to clean up this massive oil spill will blow your mind!
Senator Lemieux says, “I think it is outrageous that we only have 20 skimmers off the coast of Florida. There are 2000 skimmers in the United States and we haven’t even asked as a federal government for those skimmers to come into the gulf….the federal government who wants to take over every other aspect of our life can’t get this one thing right…”

President Obama’s response about the skimmers not being used was, “We can’t take these skimmers from other places in the country because they might have an oil spill!” What?!?

The exchange continues…

Another case of the children being in charge!

Senator LeMieux on BP spill.wmv
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Source (http://www.libertyjuice.com/2010/06/22/over-2000-skimmers-available-in-us-that-obama-refuses-to-use/)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 07:59
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Gita
23rd June 2010, 08:31
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Judge Who Lifted Moratorium Tied To Offshore Drilling Companies

The federal judge who lifted Obama's six-month drilling moratorium had interests in Transocean and a number of other offshore energy companies, according to financial disclosure forms from 2008.

Martin Feldman, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, held energy stocks in Transocean and Halliburton, as well as two of BP's largest U.S. private shareholders -- BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase. The law Feldman overturned would have halted the approval of any new permits and suspended deepwater drilling at 33 existing exploratory wells in the Gulf, four of which are BP rigs.

"It's pretty damning," said Kate Gordon, Vice President for Energy Policy at American Progress. "Transocean is the world's largest offshore drilling company. It holds most of the offshore drilling rigs in the world. So this is... a clear conflict of interest. I think folks should have known because of the history this region has of having conflicts of interests with judges on this issue. The region has got to have a list of judges that have these conflicts because this comes up all the time."

Thirty-seven of the 64 active or senior judges in key Gulf Coast districts in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi and Florida have links to oil, gas and related energy industries, including some who own stocks or bonds in BP PLC, Halliburton or Transocean, according to the Associated Press. Industry ties among federal judges are so widespread that they are jeopardizing the courts' ability to do routine business. Last month, for instance, so many members of the staunchly conservative Fifth Circuit were forced to excuse themselves from an appeal against various energy companies because there weren't enough untainted judges left to allow the court to hear the case.

It's unclear whether Feldman still owns the stocks but his comments during his ruling today were telling, "Oil and gas production is quite simply elemental to Gulf communities."

Gordon responds: "I think the whole things points to a bigger problem which is the dependence of this region on oil and gas. We have to start thinking about some kind of a long-term plan to lead this region into more energy and diversity because it's like a petro-state right now."

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 08:40
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Louisiana Police Pull Over Activist at Behest of BP

Everyone knows by now that BP is still blocking press access to oil-spill sites even though they're not supposed to anymore. I've been blathering about it for weeks, and it's been all of three days since four contractors wouldn't let me through the Pointe Aux Chenes marina outside Montegut, Louisiana. And though as of June 16 the federal government was saying helicopters could fly reporters as low as 1,500 feet around spill sites, on June 17 I was on a helicopter that was prohibited from flying below 3,000 feet (and whose pilot flipped silent birds at the "military guys" coming over the radio and hassling him about being in the area at all). But Louisiana state police pulling over a video camera-wielding private citizen because the head of BP security wanted to ask him some questions is a whole other level of alarming.

Last week, Drew Wheelan, the conservation coordinator for the American Birding Association, was filming himself across the street from the BP building/Deepwater Horizon response command in Houma, Louisiana. As he explained to me, he was standing in a field that did not belong to the oil company when a police officer approached him and asked him for ID and "strongly suggest[ed]" that he get lost since "BP doesn't want people filming":

Trying to get into a BP building
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Continued here. (http://motherjones.com/rights-stuff/2010/06/BP-louisiana-police-stop-activist)

Gita
23rd June 2010, 08:58
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Obama administration readies new drilling ban

New Orleans, Louisiana (CNN) -- The fight over a deepwater drilling moratorium will continue Wednesday with the White House vowing to move quickly to issue a new ban on that type of drilling.

A federal judge in New Orleans issued an injunction on the six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling. President Obama pushed for the ban after the BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. The White House said it would appeal the ban.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar issued a statement Tuesday saying he would issue a new moratorium quickly.

"We see clear evidence every day, as oil spills from BP's well, of the need for a pause on deepwater drilling," Salazar said in a statement. "That evidence mounts as BP continues to be unable to stop its blowout, notwithstanding the huge efforts and help from the federal scientific team and most major oil companies operating in the Gulf of Mexico."

Salazar's statement did not give an exact date for when the new order would be imposed, saying only "in the coming days."

He promised that the new order will include evidence that "eliminates any doubt that a moratorium is needed, appropriate, and within our authorities."

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 09:01
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US political parties battle over oil spill

US Democrats and Republicans have turned on each other over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill with each trying to score political points amid the expansive crisis.

The political battle erupted after Republican Joe Barton made a rare apology to energy giant BP, which is responsible for the environmental catastrophe.

On June 17, Barton told BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward that he was "ashamed" the company had to agree to a deal to set up a $20 billion fund for the Mexican Gulf damage claims.

The lopsided apology is now the main feature of the Democratic Party's second national advertisement, launched ahead of the country's mid-term Senate elections in November.

The advertisement suggests that the apology demonstrates the Republican's likely "un-American" approach, should they win control of the US Congress.

This comes as a recent opinion poll revealed that the majority of Americans blame BP and President Barack Obama -- who is a Democrat -- over the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The Reuters/Ipsos survey, released on Tuesday, showed almost 89 percent of Americans think BP was at fault for the spill, while 69 percent think the US government is also at fault.

This comes as 100,000 barrels of crude continues to gush into the Mexican Gulf per day, almost 65 days after the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, claiming the lives of 11 workers.

BP's many attempts to cap the well have all failed so far.

Meanwhile, a US federal judge in New Orleans ruled against President Obama's freeze on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf on Tuesday.

US District Judge Martin Feldman sided with the 32 oil firms that challenged the White House freeze, saying the temporary suspension was 'invalid' and could not be justified.

The judge also argued that the ban affects employment and energy supplies.

Washington in return says that it needs to halt drilling in order to discover how the oil spill happened and make sure safety measures are in place so that it doesn't happen again.

The slick has turned in to the worst environmental catastrophe in US history.

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Grizzom
23rd June 2010, 12:59
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astrid
23rd June 2010, 13:40
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Oil Cleanup Workers Not Paid On Time

METAIRIE, La. --
The WDSU newsroom has fielded dozens of calls from people who say they're helping to clean up the oil but aren't getting paid for their work.

A group of response workers in Metairie said they waited on checks that never came this week. The person who hired them said it's all a mix-up.

The workers said they have been coming to work for weeks, but come payday, the checks never came.

"It has been hot. We have been promised stuff, and they lied to us," a worker said. "They're taking money, keeping money from us. Everything they tell us is a lie."

The workers have been cleaning up boom and spraying down barges. They are employed by a company called Tamarah, a subcontractor for BP.

Workers said they were told to pick up a check on Friday at an office building in Metairie.

"We are here to get our money, and the people here with us have no way home because they have no money, and we were promised our check when we got here today," a worker said.

Some of the workers were from Livingston Parish, and they said they need their money to make it back home.

"They won't talk to us," a worker said of Tamarah. "They called the cops on us and won't let us go up there."

The owner of the employment company said it's all a mix-up. A third party processes the checks, and they were not ready in time, the owner said.

"I understand because I have been in the same position before," she said. "I already explained it to them. If you were in my shoes, what can I tell them?"

The company owner said she has even gotten death threats.

"I have family to feed too," she said. "It's not my fault."

The head of Tamarah said the checks will be ready on Monday. She invited WDSU to come back as she hands out the checks to workers.

While the owner of the company could not give out checks on Friday, she said she bought gas cards so the workers could get home for the weekend and drive back to pick up their checks on Monday.

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source....
http://www.wdsu.com/money/23960347/detail.html

Fredkc
23rd June 2010, 16:36
They pulled the cap off the BOP in the last 24 hours. I want to make a side trip here to point out something of interest.

You don't hear much in the "Network Puppet Shows" about the condition of the BOP. But here is an interesting comparison.

I didnt spend the time to dig up a pic for stage one, but as I recall, when they sawed off the pipe, above the BOP, the cut was level. Now compare that to these two pics:

This one is from around June 9th:

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/post3/leaning.jpg

And this one is from this morning:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=78392&stc=1&d=1277301543

If this "tilt" to the rig happened before the cut-off, then you'd think the cut would still be level. Obviously it isn't.

T'would be nice if someone asked BP about this, just in case they wanted to explain what's going on.

Fred

rosie
23rd June 2010, 17:45
BP forced to remove containment cap in Gulf of Mexico

BP has been forced to remove a cap that was containing some of the oil gushing from a well into the Gulf of Mexico, the US Coast Guard says.

Coast Guard Adm Thad Allen says the move came after an underwater robot bumped into the venting system.

The collision sent gas rising through the vent that carries warm water down to prevent ice-like crystals from forming in the cap.

Separately, Adm Allen said two people had been killed in a clean-up effort.

It's the last sentence that I need to know more about!

Just found some more info on the deaths at,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10396554.stm

Gita
23rd June 2010, 19:50
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BP spill clean-up crews risk their health

Workers involved in the clean-up of the spilled oil from the ruptured BP well in the Gulf of Mexico are at an increased risk of short-term lung, liver, and kidney damage from fumes.

According to a statement sent to the Institute of Medicine, clean-up crews suffer from short-term health problems caused secondary to the emission of volatile organic compounds from oil.

Organic compounds in crude oil are toxic; exposure to these compounds, therefore, may lead to long-lasting health effects like kidney failure, liver problems, or cancer.

"You really are talking about a triangle of heat, chemical exposure, and then the behavior changes that you see as a result," said Linda McCauley, dean of Emory University's School of Nursing in Atlanta, adding that the exertional heat stroke is the main factor which may aggravate the condition.

Compared to hired workers, clean-up volunteers are believed to be at a greater risk as they are less trained and less likely to use protective gear. While the protective gears are believed to be effective in lowering the risk of damage, many of the workers usually take them off due to the heat of the Gulf, the expert noted.

"These studies have shown us consistent evidence for ocular, neurological, dermal exposure as a result of exposure to volatile organic compounds. Personal protection equipment definitely reduces exposures, and education particularly of clean-up workers is extremely important," said Nalini Sathiakuma of the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

Many, however, believe that the risk of the diseases have reduced in the past weeks as oil has lost some of its toxic components as it has become weathered in the water.

Millions of gallons of oil have poured into the Gulf since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded on April 20, Killing 11 workers and blowing out the well. A newly revealed BP document indicates that around 100,000 barrels of oil per day are gushed out of the well into the gulf.

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 19:55
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Something Broke: Containment Cap Removed From BP Oil Leak After Problems Encountered; Massive Increase In Spill Rate

This is bad to very bad. Coast guard reports two deaths have occurred in the containment effort. Not all is lost - in what probably shouldn't pass for an attempt at humor yet achieves precisely that, the US coast guard said the oil flow is not completely unrestrcited, and some oil was being burned off on the surface. Nothing like a little oil rain for the already happy happy gulf region.

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Source and watch live stream here. (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/something-broke-containment-cap-removed-bp-oil-leak-after-problems-encountered-massive-incre)

Fredkc
23rd June 2010, 20:00
Gita;
I'm noticing a pattern here.
Whenever BP wants to talk containment they use gallons (big numbers) and when they talk spill they use Barrels (smaller numbers).

Or is it just me?

Fred

Gita
23rd June 2010, 20:07
Gita;
I'm noticing a pattern here.
Whenever BP wants to talk containment they use gallons (big numbers) and when they talk spill they use Barrels (smaller numbers).

Or is it just me?

Fred

Good detection skills Fred but no surprise seeing the ridiculous amount of money spent on PR who know exactly what type of dialogue to brainwash people with.:rolleyes:

Gita
23rd June 2010, 20:12
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Two BP spill response personnel killed


More than two months after BP's massive oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico, the US Coast Guard says two people related to the spill response have been killed.

Adm. Thad Allen, the federal spill response commander, said on Wednesday that one person died in a swimming pool accident and another on a vessel conducting oil skimming, reported The Washington Post.

Adm. Allen did not further elaborated on the two deaths.

The commander further said that an incident prompted BP engineers to remove the containment cap on the oil geyser.

He said the accident happened after an underwater robot had bumped into the venting system.

"We had an incident earlier today, they noticed that there was some kind of a gas rising," Allen was quoted by AFP as saying.

"They indicated the problem was a remotely-operated vehicle had bumped into one of the vents," Allen said, adding that the "top hat" container was being checked and could be reinstalled later Wednesday.

An array of tactics employed by the London-based energy giant has so far failed to completely contain the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The US is already faced with a disaster in its southern coasts in what has been described as the country's worst environmental catastrophe.

A new BP estimates put the amount of the crude gushing into the sea at 10,000 barrels a day.

Eleven workers were killed in the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig operated by BP.

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 20:38
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BP's Hayward Steps Back From Oil Spill Role

BP's chief executive Tony Hayward is handing over management of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill 'immediately', the firm has said.

Managing director Bob Dudley will take over the role of overseeing BP's response to the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

On Friday, BP chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg told Sky's Jeff Randall in an exclusive interview that My Hayward was preparing to pass on the duties.

"...he has been out there for eight weeks and he is now handing over the operations, the daily operations to Bob Dudley," Mr Svanberg said.

The appointment leaves Mr Hayward, who has caused outrage in the US with a series of PR blunders following the incident, to focus on the rest of the business.

In a statement, BP said: "Effective immediately, Bob Dudley has been appointed president and chief executive officer of BP's Gulf Coast Restoration Organisation.

"Mr Dudley will report to Tony Hayward, BP's group chief executive."

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Sheen on the surface of a Louisiana bay: oil has been leaking for two months

BP said the organisation would manage all aspects of the response to the Deepwater Horizon incident and the oil and gas spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It will also make sure BP keeps promises made to the people of the Gulf Coast and continues its work to restore the region’s environment, the firm said.

Meanwhile, Mr Hayward said the selection of Bob Dudley would ensure the clean-up operation was in safe hands.

"Having grown up in Mississippi, Bob has a deep appreciation and affinity for the Gulf Coast, and believes deeply in BP’s commitment to restore the region," he said.

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 21:13
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Locals overwhelmed by eight-mile gush of oil arriving on Pensacola Beach

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PENSACOLA BEACH - Streamers of chocolate-colored mats of oil washed up along an eight-mile stretch of Pensacola Beach early Wednesday, presenting what state officials said was the worst show of crude on shore from the gusher 120 miles away.

"It's pretty ugly. There's no question about it," said Gov. Charlie Crist, who arrived at the beach expecting to see tar balls, not pools of sticky goo. "We don't want to take 'the sky is falling' attitude about this. We want to clean it up and stay after it...and we will."


Just a week ago, Crist walked the same sands along the Pensacola Beach pier with President Barack Obama as they discussed the federal response to the clean-up effort.

This time, Crist was greeted by dozens of clean-up workers, dressed in white haz-mat suits and yellow boots, carrying rakes and shovels and plastic bags as they scooped up the mousse-like tar mats before they sunk into the once-white sand.

Despite a faint odor, a couple dozen sunbathers watched as workers snaked along the sand with their shovels and rakes, occasionally resting under tents to sip water.

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Gita
23rd June 2010, 21:20
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Florida Releases June 23, 2010 Gulf Oil Spill Situation Update

According to the NOAA oil plume model, the oil plume is 5 miles from Pensacola, 38 miles from Mexico Beach and 244 miles from St. Petersburg.

NOAA near shore trajectories are showing direct onshore impacts to the Walton-Bay County line through Friday, with the uncertainty line extending as far as Panama City Beach.

Moderate east to southeasterly winds at 10-15 knots will flow onshore throughout today.

The overnight winds will shift and become easterly before rotating back to southeasterly by Thursday afternoon.

Offshore, the Loop Current Ring has slightly re-attached to the main Loop Current.

However, observations continue to indicate no significant amounts of oil moving toward the Loop Current. The tropical wave over the central Caribbean Sea has a moderate (30%) chance of becoming a tropical cyclone in the next 48 hours.

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astrid
24th June 2010, 02:04
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BP Gulf oil false flag catastrophe may be a psyops scripted by prophecy and psychic visions – Part 1

Examiner.com has reported that the spreading BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico is in fact an intentional ‘disaster capitalism’ false flag operation for insider profit in the genre of environmental war, and a component of an elite plan to depopulate human society and stop disclosure.

Evidence that the BP Gulf oil catastrophe is a false flag operation includes: (1) “foreshadowing drills” by the U.S. agencies prior to the April 20, 2010 disaster; (2) insider trading of 44% of its BP stock by Goldman Sachs and a related insider corporate takeover of the world’s largest oil spill by Halliburton three weeks prior to the oil spill; (3) BP CEO Tony Hayward dumping approximately one-third of his BP stocks one month prior to the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.

The 2010 BP Gulf of Mexico false flag environmental catastrophe did not occur out of an environmental war policy vacuum. The intentional wrecking of the environment as a deliberate policy to engage humanity in perpetual “war” has been in development for over 50 years in environmental weapons think tanks and laboratories, starting in the late 1950s, with JASON scientists such as Gordon MacDonald and his work on “Wrecking the Environment” as a geopolitical strategy.

Under this geopolitical doctrine of “wrecking the environment”, the ecology and environment and biosphere are intentionally covertly wrecked using advanced, exotic environmental weapons and false flag methodologies. The natural environment becomes the next “enemy” in the permanent war economy. That portion of humanity that is not destroyed by the disturbed ecology must now struggle just to survive in what was before the wrecking a supportive environment and ecology. One purported 1967 environmental war policy report stated, “But from present indications, it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution…will be sufficiently menacing on a global scale to offer…a solution.” With intentional, covert environmental wrecking techniques, Gaia - the ecology and the environment - becomes the new mortal “enemy” in the dialectic of permanent war around which a elite can continue to enslave humanity.

Some apocalyptic and religious commentary on the 2010 BP Gulf of Mexico false flag oil catastrophe frames catastrophic projections of BP oil spill as a precursor or fulfillment ‘end of the world’ Earth Changes prophetic scenarios as set out in various sacred prophecy texts such as the Book of Revelation and the Hopi Prophecy’s Seventh Sign, as well as the visions and prophecies of 20th and 21st century psychics, extraterrestrial contactees, and shamans such as psychic Edgar Cayce (1877-1945), Argentina’s ET contactee Benjamin Solari Parravicini (1898-1974) and Zulu shaman Credo Mutwa (1921 – present).

Use of prophetic, psychic, and shamanistic texts as scripts for designing and rolling out catastrophic environmental warfare is explored extensively in a book written in 1999 by reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre, entitled Earth Changes: A Spiritual Approach (2000).

Specific, identified exotic environmental weapons and environmental war false flag techniques can be used to implement environmental warfare strikes such as the April 20, 2010 BP Gulf of Mexico intentional oil catastrophe designed and rolled out through the visions contained in prophetic, psychic, and shamanistic texts. The outcome is a multi-factored psychological, exopolitical, and spiritual warfare and matrix of oppression (Psyops) against the targeted human population.

This Examiner.com article is Part I of a series evaluating whether the perpetrators of the spreading BP oil catastrophe false flag environmental war attack are doing so by using the prophetic, psychic, ET contactee and shamanistic texts as a kind of script for a massive psychological warfare (Psyops) against humanity.

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http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2010m6d22-BP-Gulf-oil-false-flag-catastrophe-may-be-a-psyops-scripted-by-prophecy-and-psychic-visions--Part-1