how to stop an alien abduction

[RedeZra]

it is possible to stop an alien abduction in the Name of Jesus

why is that ? time to think !




Stopping an alien abduction in the name of Jesus

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investigate

http://www.alienresistance.org/

[conk]

I doubt the aliens would care one bit about some mythological figure. You'd do as well by riding away from them on a unicorn.

[New Dawn]

I really very much doubt that calling out Jesus will make any difference. Probably as much as saying 'Santa'. Don't get me wrong, I think there was a dude named Jesus, but this is the usual religious bull**** that I can't stand. How many people have died in the name of religion and I think religion is the biggest terrorist ever to exist on the planet. This dude reminds me of the guy in 'Paul' ....Its a miracle, while clamping on to his bible.

[<8>]

I doubt the aliens would care one bit about some mythological figure. You'd do as well by riding away from them on a unicorn.




The mind is probably the most powerful and impact force in creation and you should not underestimate the power of your own subconscious mind. Remember that no matter what a person says or does all action originates in the mind. In some instances, the actions of the mind are manifested on a conscious level.

[RedeZra]

the aliens know very well the power of Jesus Christ just like the demons did back in the Bible


"When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes, two men who were possessed by demons met him. They lived in a cemetery and were so violent that no one could go through that area.
They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” - Matthew 8:28-29 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:28-29&version=NLT)


you see demons and aliens know God better than you guys

are you not ashamed ?

[New Dawn]

the aliens know very well the power of Jesus Christ just like the demons did back in the Bible


"When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes, two men who were possessed by demons met him. They lived in a cemetery and were so violent that no one could go through that area.
They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” - Matthew 8:28-29 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:28-29&version=NLT)

I'm sorry, but while I do believe that there is truth in the bible, its still a collection of chinese whispers past down, becoming ever more distorted.

[ulli]

At least this preacher is not spouting hellfire and brimstone, nor hate messages.
People are all at different levels, and after a while will find a back door through which to sneak out and continue their search.

The higher you can project your image of power the more empowered you can become.
The Jesus image serves many in a positive way.
The problem is not so much their projection at Jesus, but at their clergy man.

[RMorgan]

I doubt the aliens would care one bit about some mythological figure. You'd do as well by riding away from them on a unicorn.




The mind is probably the most powerful and impact force in creation and you should not underestimate the power of your own subconscious mind. Remember that no matter what a person says or does all action originates in the mind. In some instances, the actions of the mind are manifested on a conscious level.

Yes. It´s not about Jesus himself. If a person is religious, and truly believes the power of Jesus, when he orders for something to stop in the name of Him, it will really come from inside, and it will be powerful.

[RedeZra]

I'm sorry, but while I do believe that there is truth in the bible, its still a collection of chinese whispers past down, becoming ever more distorted.

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

[ulli]

Just a little game of logic here, trying to get an idea of whether the aliens are truly evil.
If the ptb say aliens are evil, and Jesus is good, where do demons fit in?

Personally, I do not believe that religions were made by aliens. The origin of enlightenment is a higher source.

Humans can receive telepathic messages from all kinds of sources, but must learn to distinguish them, and see them for what they are.

There is a small element of aliens who tell lies, who abduct, and display demonic behavior, but they are not demons.
The vast majority of ET are advanced civilizations that want to do no harm.

Yet none of them are either angels nor demons, who are discarnate entities.
ETs have bodies and a life span.
Whatever voice speaks to us from within, we must learn to trace it to it's source, and discard the lower messages in favor of higher ones.
The highest messages allow for the happiness of all.

[RedeZra]

this is an important piece of the puzzle people

aliens and demons are afraid of Jesus Christ


I'm not trying to convince the hardline deniers and unbelievers here but to help and proclaim hope to those on the fence and those that don't know where to look for help and hope in their lives

[42]

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

just curious... how do you know what "satan" knows...

[RedeZra]

Just a little game of logic here, trying to get an idea of whether the aliens are truly evil.
If the ptb say aliens are evil, and Jesus is good, where do demons fit in?

There is a small element of aliens who tell lies, who abduct, and display demonic behavior, but they are not demons.
The vast majority of ET are advanced civilizations that want to do no harm.

Yet none of them are either angels nor demons, who are discarnate entities.
ETs have bodies and a life span.


TPTB cannot be trusted besides they don't speak about Jesus nor do the aliens

I've never encountered an ET but I hear all these stories about them


alien abduction is a real phenomena... it is happening... and many have stopped the abductions in the Name of Jesus

that tells me that those who abduct are aware of the power of Jesus Christ and either flees before the Name or that the Spirit of Christ actually intervenes and stops the abduction in it's track

if aliens are demons then they cannot be trusted either because they don't speak the truth... just like TPTB ; )

[RedeZra]

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

just curious... how do you know what "satan" knows...

well I don't know everything about him but by honest investigation and not turning a blind eye to anything then a picture emerge which tells me that he probably knows the bible by heart

[<8>]

Just a little game of logic here, trying to get an idea of whether the aliens are truly evil.
If the ptb say aliens are evil, and Jesus is good, where do demons fit in?

Personally, I do not believe that religions were made by aliens. The origin of enlightenment is a higher source.

Humans can receive telepathic messages from all kinds of sources, but must learn to distinguish them, and see them for what they are.

There is a small element of aliens who tell lies, who abduct, and display demonic behavior, but they are not demons.
The vast majority of ET are advanced civilizations that want to do no harm.

Yet none of them are either angels nor demons, who are discarnate entities.
ETs have bodies and a life span.
Whatever voice speaks to us from within, we must learn to trace it to it's source, and discard the lower messages in favor of higher ones.
The highest messages allow for the happiness of all.


Just a little game of logic here to..:P


Man was not smart enough to write any of the religions, and I mean the Eastern Spiritualism (the-self), Western Religions (God, - which I always have referred to as the “Extraterrestrial”) or American Creationism (Nature itself, including man). One of the oldest religious text “The Egyptian Book of the Dead” (1*) dates back more than 3000 BC. When writing was invented and the scribes and artists first wrote down what the priests had used in their prayers and litanies, they were very perplexed and hardly understood the text. What I am getting at is that all religions were not composed by humans at the time they were created. And even the Bible is very specific in that: 2 Tim. 3:16 “ALL scripture is inspired by God…,” the key word here is ’inspired’, irrespective of who wrote it down. SO WHO INSPIRED THE PROPHETS?

That brings me to the next question. If there is a God, why would there not be just ONE book, ONE religion, and ONE clear answer to all human questions? Just look at the Bible; it is written in such a way that it can be interpreted a dozen different ways, and if you do not know how to THINK, you read the Bible literally: Mt 13:13-15 “This is why I speak to them in parables, because - - -”. I have the impression that it was purposely written in this manner to create as much division as possible among humans. And with great success; how many wars has the world seen, how many people have died?; all in the name of God or religion.

[ulli]

First of all, I do believe that calling on Jesus or God, may provide protection, but not always.
How many have died in disasters while praying yet it did not save them.

Yet there are many miracle stories where prayer caused a negative event to become positive.

So in my opinion it has more to do with the person's level of consciousness than just using the name of Jesus as a formula of success.

By the way, I thought the ptb control the Vatican, according to some sources.

There are two ways to worship Jesus, either through personal spirituality by learning from his teachings.

Or by following organized religion, which may be an ok path at the beginning of life, but in the long run prevents a person from becoming their own master, which is not something Jesus would have wanted.

[ulli]

SO WHO INSPIRED THE PROPHETS?

That brings me to the next question. If there is a God, why would there not be just ONE book, ONE religion, and ONE clear answer to all human questions? Just look at the Bible; it is written in such a way that it can be interpreted a dozen different ways, and if you do not know how to THINK, you read the Bible literally: Mt 13:13-15 “This is why I speak to them in parables, because - - -”. I have the impression that it was purposely written in this manner to create as much division as possible among humans. And with great success; how many wars has the world seen, how many people have died?; all in the name of God or religion.

While there were fewer civilizations on the planet, with just a few hundred million people there were vast distances dividing them physically.
Independent cultures arose with little interchange, and when interchange happened it was the result of wars.

It is only in the last 150 years that travel has speeded up, which allowed for cultural exchange without warfare.

Each culture developed it's religion from one single teacher and many of the teachings have very similar elements.

It is just a matter of studying comparative religion, to discover the underlying unity of all religions, namely
ethical teachings to help people fit into the larger group, and that life is preparation for what happens after death.

The differences arose over the millenia as cultural filters were added and traditions developed.
Today Christianity is split into several thousand sects all with their distinct interpretations.
Humanity is always expressing diversity in it's attempt to distinguish individuals.

[New Dawn]

I'm sorry, but while I do believe that there is truth in the bible, its still a collection of chinese whispers past down, becoming ever more distorted.

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

I know that religious topics can get heated, and I don't want that to happen...so I'll simply ask one question: don't TPTB want us to be religious to keep us under control? That's the whole point of religion, in my opinion. So why would they try to discredit it? :)

[<8>]

Thanks for the chat Ulli....


I have to make some food ready here now..

[RedeZra]

So in my opinion it has more to do with the person's level of consciousness than just using the name of Jesus as a formula of success.

By the way, I thought the ptb control the Vatican, according to some sources.



the Vatican has been split and subverted by TPTB... especially since Vatican II in 1962

this has been foretold in the Book for 2000 years that the Catholic Church would stumble and fall

but Jesus Christ did not stumble and fall except on his way to Calvary... and He has the power to raise and restore the Church

and much more He has the power to raise and restore us

[ulli]

I'm sorry, but while I do believe that there is truth in the bible, its still a collection of chinese whispers past down, becoming ever more distorted.

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

I know that religious topics can get heated, and I don't want that to happen...so I'll simply ask one question: don't TPTB want us to be religious to keep us under control? That's the whole point of religion, in my opinion. So why would they try to discredit it? :)

The way I see it, the Ptb HIJACK religions to keep control.
A new religion is vibrant, think of the early Christians.
Thehijack is done by establishing a priesthood (always all male) and they then distort the original message.

The original founders of religion are often rebels against the established norm.
The bring higher truths in order to liberate humanity.

Then TPTB take over and mess things up again.

Then a higher spirit has to come back to reunite the fragmented mess, which I think has already happened.

And the gift was the Internet...

[ulli]

So in my opinion it has more to do with the person's level of consciousness than just using the name of Jesus as a formula of success.

By the way, I thought the ptb control the Vatican, according to some sources.



the Vatican has been split and subverted by TPTB... especially since Vatican II in 1962

this has been foretold in the Book for 2000 years that the Catholic Church would stumble and fall

but Jesus Christ did not stumble and fall except on his way to Calvary... and He has the power to raise and restore the Church

and much more He has the power to raise and restore us

We must have been watching the same videos about Vatican 2.
The main thing is that YOU keep your faith in Jesus, and follow His teachings.

Gurdjieff used to be accused that his teachings were not Christian enough.
He said he taught esoteric Christianity. How to be a Christian on the inside.

He told people "none of you are Christians until you have had your first cup of coffee in the morning."

[Davy]

Brainwashing bull!! In the Name of Jesus makes everything Right,,,,,, Those aliens will be running scared for sure!! What a crock!!!

[RedeZra]

The main thing is that YOU keep your faith in Jesus, and follow His teachings.


this is not faith but fact

an alien abduction can be stopped in the Name of Jesus


so to those that are abducted now and tomorrow

you know what to do ; )

[42]

Satan and his shills know the Bible is true and have been busy discrediting it through TPTB so as to fool us into hell ; )

don't be deluded !

just curious... how do you know what "satan" knows...

well I don't know everything about him but by honest investigation and not turning a blind eye to anything then a picture emerge which tells me that he probably knows the bible by heart

now i'm really curious. which of the many different and contradictory versions of the bible does "satan" know by heart. The ones written by man (king james for example) how about the talmud? how about the q'uran? what about all the others? how do you explain the contradictions? I'm also not sure exactly which version God actually wrote...? any of them? all of them?

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The main thing is that YOU keep your faith in Jesus, and follow His teachings.


this is not faith but fact

an alien abduction can be stopped in the Name of Jesus


so to those that are abducted now and tomorrow

you know what to do ; )

one other question... can an alien abduction be stopped in the name of Buddha?

[ceetee9]

TPTB cannot be trusted besides they don't speak about Jesus nor do the aliens
I normally try not to get into religious arguments because it is futile, but with all due respect RedeZra, you can't seriously believe your above quoted statement. The PTB and their front men (e.g., the Bush's, Clinton's, Obama, etc.) are all about religious beliefs. They wear their Christianity on their sleeves and use the same fear mongering techniques that all religions use to control their flock and justify their hatred for all others who don't believe as they do. That's one of the ways they get Americans to send their children off to fight, kill and die in wars against those evil terrorist Muslims, for example. We can argue whether they truly believe in what they portend to believe, but there is no question they use religion--particularly Christianity--to stir our emotions to push their agendas and get the gullible to swallow their bitter pill.

I contend that if a true Christian believer invokes Jesus' name to ward off those 'evil aliens' (and it works) that it has more to do with them being able to muster their own power because of their belief than it does with the aliens being frightened of a man-made idol that comes to chase them away. In other words, we all have far more power and ability than we know and it matters not what religion, if any, you believe in, but, rather, what it takes for you to manifest those powers and ability when required.

[ulli]

[QUOTE=ulli;287858]
TPTB cannot be trusted besides they don't speak about Jesus nor do the aliens
I normally try not to get into religious arguments because it is futile, but with all due respect RedeZra, you can't seriously believe your above quoted statement. The PTB and their front men (e.g., the Bush's, Clinton's, Obama, etc.) are all about religious beliefs. They wear their Christianity on their sleeves and use the same fear mongering techniques that all religions use to control their flock and justify their hatred for all others who don't believe as they do. That's one of the ways they get Americans to send their children off to fight, kill and die in wars against those evil terrorist Muslims, for example. We can argue whether they truly believe in what they portend to believe, but there is no question they use religion--particularly Christianity--to stir our emotions to push their agendas and get the gullible to swallow their bitter pill.

I contend that if a true Christian believer invokes Jesus' name to ward off those 'evil aliens' (and it works) that it has more to do with them being able to muster their own power because of their belief than it does with the aliens being frightened of a man-made idol that comes to chase them away. In other words, we all have far more power and ability than we know and it matters not what religion, if any, you believe in, but, rather, what it takes for you to manifest those powers and ability when required.

Hey!!!!

That was not my quote!! I didn't say that.

That post needs to be re-edited.

[ceetee9]

Hey!!!!

That was not my quote!! I didn't say that.

That post needs to be re-edited. Sorry Ulli. You are right. I screwed up the cut and paste from Redezra. I'll fix it. Thanks for keeping me honest. :)

[nearing]

the aliens know very well the power of Jesus Christ just like the demons did back in the Bible


"When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes, two men who were possessed by demons met him. They lived in a cemetery and were so violent that no one could go through that area.
They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” - Matthew 8:28-29 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:28-29&version=NLT)


you see demons and aliens know God better than you guys

are you not ashamed ?

Do you think that it does any good for an animal about to be slaughtered by a human to either think of Jesus or moo or cluck his name?

It's a very good possibility that the 'aliens' that would abduct us are treating us in the same way as we do animals that we kill to eat or the ones in labs that we do horrible experiments on. No amount of appealing to their 'good nature' will stop them doing their jobs.

On the other hand, remember: You are NOT your body. They can do what they will to your body, but you will go on. Don't live in fear!

[42]

the aliens know very well the power of Jesus Christ just like the demons did back in the Bible


"When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes, two men who were possessed by demons met him. They lived in a cemetery and were so violent that no one could go through that area.
They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” - Matthew 8:28-29 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:28-29&version=NLT)


you see demons and aliens know God better than you guys

are you not ashamed ?

What was that quote from one or more of the many different bibles out there... "judge not lest ye be judged.." Thanks but if I am ashamed i'll make up for it in my own way and with my own God.

[ulli]

@RedeZra

You are getting quite a bit of negative feedback here, which could be interpreted in a variety of ways.
And religions based on a martyr trip will say that the others are wrong, and victimizing you.

But maybe there is another angle here.

The moment religious belief becomes replaced by the need to do more than merely inform others,
and words like "are you not ashamed?" are injected, it is an indication that fanaticism has crept in there somewhere.

And that means someone else (possibly a manipulative preacher) has got a hold of you and is guilt tripping you,
and you therefore you are passing it on.

And I'm not saying "Shame on you!", just offering this for consideration.

[42]

@RedeZra

You are getting quite a bit of negative feedback here, which could be interpreted in a variety of ways.
And religions based on a martyr trip will say that the others are wrong, and victimizing you.

But maybe there is another angle here.

The moment religious belief becomes replaced by the need to do more than merely inform others,
and words like "are you not ashamed?" are injected, it is an indication that fanaticism has crept in there somewhere.

And that means someone else (possibly a manipulative preacher) has got a hold of you and is guilt tripping you,
and you therefore you are passing it on.

And I'm not saying "Shame on you!", just offering this for consideration.

beautifully phrased Ulli. thanks.

[RedeZra]

@RedeZra

You are getting quite a bit of negative feedback here, which could be interpreted in a variety of ways.
And religions based on a martyr trip will say that the others are wrong, and victimizing you.


I'm not a participant in a popular contest here ; )

here I have shown testimonies and evidences for the saving power of Jesus for those that are troubled with alien abduction

so those that are troubled with alien abduction might want to give it a try

try the medicine and see if it works


well I think it is sad that aliens and demons know God better than my fellow human beings

[RedeZra]

now i'm really curious. which of the many different and contradictory versions of the bible does "satan" know by heart.

when you take the time to compare the different versions or translations of the Bible then you will see for yourself that there are just small variations in language and no contradictions in meanings



one other question... can an alien abduction be stopped in the name of Buddha?

I dunno try it ; )

[RedeZra]

I know that religious topics can get heated, and I don't want that to happen...so I'll simply ask one question: don't TPTB want us to be religious to keep us under control? That's the whole point of religion, in my opinion. So why would they try to discredit it? :)

let's not be afraid of a little heated debate ; )


TPTB sure wants to control us so they supress information facts and artifacts that would tell us without a doubt who we are and why we are here

it is vital for TPTB to hide hardcore artifacts and instead plant a variety of fantasies in our minds which divide and confuse us else we would probably come together and topple them a long time ago


we cannot really understand ourselves nor the world when vital information are withheld from us

we base our believes and lives on what we see and read but when TPTB are in control of the information flow then they can trick us into believing anything


still we have self-experiences which we can share with each other and somewhat modify deliberate deceits and lies coming from TPTB


there are so many things that are silenced suppressed and hidden from us like...


a German UFO

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_tierrahueca/I_Haunebu2-07.jpg


a military fenced in mountain in Saudi-Arabia

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a big old boat up at a mountain in Turkey

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sulfur and ash by the Dead Sea

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skeletons of giants

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it seems to me that TPTB is hiding our history from us and instead planting fiction in our minds

[RedeZra]

Do you think that it does any good for an animal about to be slaughtered by a human to either think of Jesus or moo or cluck his name?


don't let TPTB trick you into thinking that you are an animal

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What was that quote from one or more of the many different bibles out there... "judge not lest ye be judged.." Thanks but if I am ashamed i'll make up for it in my own way and with my own God.

no you will burn lol jk

chill bro ; )

[Lord Sidious]

the aliens know very well the power of Jesus Christ just like the demons did back in the Bible


"When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes, two men who were possessed by demons met him. They lived in a cemetery and were so violent that no one could go through that area.
They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” - Matthew 8:28-29 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:28-29&version=NLT)


you see demons and aliens know God better than you guys

are you not ashamed ?

We don't have anything to be ashamed of, how dare you even bring this nuggetry here.
If you want to believe, that is great, just don't push it down our throats then guilt trip us, that is whay christians and others have done for millenia.
Thanks, but no thanks.


I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ



I know that religious topics can get heated, and I don't want that to happen...so I'll simply ask one question: don't TPTB want us to be religious to keep us under control? That's the whole point of religion, in my opinion. So why would they try to discredit it? :)

Religion is like trainer wheels on the bikes we had as small children.
Once we know what we are doing, we take the trainer wheels off and then really explore our boundaries and develop ourselves further.
Going through life with trainer wheels on says a lot about the confidence and abilities of the rider.



the Vatican has been split and subverted by TPTB... especially since Vatican II in 1962

this has been foretold in the Book for 2000 years that the Catholic Church would stumble and fall

but Jesus Christ did not stumble and fall except on his way to Calvary... and He has the power to raise and restore the Church

and much more He has the power to raise and restore us

The vatican IS the powers and was from it's creation.
Thanks to your church, the traditions of my ancestors was destroyed.
They were burned as witches for practising herbalism amongst many other ''crimes'' and that knowledge is lost to us.




now i'm really curious. which of the many different and contradictory versions of the bible does "satan" know by heart.

when you take the time to compare the different versions or translations of the Bible then you will see for yourself that there are just small variations in language and no contradictions in meanings

I disagree. There is a section of the new testament when herod says to jesus that he is the king of the jews.
I have seen one bible quote jesus as saying ''so you say'' which is a negative averment, for those who know what that is and another bible said ''it is as you say'' which is exactly opposite to the other one.

[Jake]

Lord Sidious said this damn wise comment: Religion is like trainer wheels on the bikes we had as small children.
Once we know what we are doing, we take the trainer wheels off and then really explore our boundaries and develop ourselves further.
Going through life with trainer wheels on says a lot about the confidence and abilities of the rider.

You hit the nail on the head, M'lord. I don't think I have heard it put any better. I am going to use this line, (if you don't mind). I have ongoing discussions with folks.... I am going to drop this in there... Brilliant.

[RedeZra]

Thanks to your church, the traditions of my ancestors was destroyed.
They were burned as witches for practising herbalism amongst many other ''crimes'' and that knowledge is lost to us.


yes it's unfortunate that our pagan ancestors wouldn't drop the habit of collecting herbs despite several warnings ; )

[RedeZra]

Religion is like trainer wheels on the bikes we had as small children.
Once we know what we are doing, we take the trainer wheels off and then really explore our boundaries and develop ourselves further.
Going through life with trainer wheels on says a lot about the confidence and abilities of the rider.


I know all about the adolescent exploration or rebellion ; )



I have seen one bible quote jesus as saying ''so you say'' which is a negative averment, for those who know what that is and another bible said ''it is as you say'' which is exactly opposite to the other one.

yes you are of course right... there are some instances where some of the versions didn't quite get the meaning right

[Lord Sidious]

Lord Sidious said this damn wise comment: Religion is like trainer wheels on the bikes we had as small children.
Once we know what we are doing, we take the trainer wheels off and then really explore our boundaries and develop ourselves further.
Going through life with trainer wheels on says a lot about the confidence and abilities of the rider.

You hit the nail on the head, M'lord. I don't think I have heard it put any better. I am going to use this line, (if you don't mind). I have ongoing discussions with folks.... I am going to drop this in there... Brilliant.

No worries jake jake binks, just don't go stirring up too many hornets nests.




Thanks to your church, the traditions of my ancestors was destroyed.
They were burned as witches for practising herbalism amongst many other ''crimes'' and that knowledge is lost to us.


yes it's unfortunate that our pagan ancestors wouldn't drop the habit of collecting herbs despite several warnings ; )

If you are attempting to extract the michael, I would suggest you read the quote from mohandas gandhi.
Are you TRULY following your jesus with comments like you put up?

[RedeZra]

Thanks to your church, the traditions of my ancestors was destroyed.
They were burned as witches for practising herbalism amongst many other ''crimes'' and that knowledge is lost to us.


yes it's unfortunate that our pagan ancestors wouldn't drop the habit of collecting herbs despite several warnings ; )

???? Are you serious??

I am of course not serious ; )




Are you TRULY following your jesus with comments like you put up?

well I could probably do better but I gotta have fun too ; )

[Lord Sidious]

Joking about the damage your religion and its institutions have caused is very sick.
Also, why do you have that name?

[nearing]

Do you think that it does any good for an animal about to be slaughtered by a human to either think of Jesus or moo or cluck his name?


don't let TPTB trick you into thinking that you are an animal

Um, last time I looked humans were most definitely a member of the Animal Kingdom. And it doesn't matter what the 'victim's' perception is here, it's what the perpetrator thinks as they are the ones doing the slaughtering and experimenting. If they choose to perceive us as no more than lab animals, we can't make that different by shouting out the name of an avatar of one of OUR religions.

But if shouting out that name makes you feel better while being experimented on, I say - go for it!

[Davidallany]

I once stopped an abduction in the name of Allah. I was just experimenting with different methods. So there you go, it also could be in the name of Buddha, Moses, The Sun, and rabbit's foot. Whatever you believe in.

[Davidallany]

from Kermit the frog.



Believe in Kermit, he is a frog
http://blogue.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/1.jpg

[RedeZra]

Joking about the damage your religion and its institutions have caused is very sick.
Also, why do you have that name?

you do know Sith that I am a Jedi ; )




Um, last time I looked humans were most definitely a member of the Animal Kingdom.

then you're looking in the wrong places because you are a human being in the kingdom of humanity

[WhiteFeather]

Well said Jake, Just make sure you put something in the collection basket when you leave. The Vatican Is Going broke and needs the money to pay for the many lawsuits for the priests whom have been fondling young boys and girls for eons.

¤=[Post Update]=¤





Thanks to your church, the traditions of my ancestors was destroyed.
They were burned as witches for practising herbalism amongst many other ''crimes'' and that knowledge is lost to us.


yes it's unfortunate that our pagan ancestors wouldn't drop the habit of collecting herbs despite several warnings ; )

???? Are you serious?? I do not heed warnings from christians. It is like heeding a warning from kermit the frog. Or the easter bunny or santa clause...

And what of my people? The Cherokee Nation!!!! More pagans that need to be ruled over by greedy religions and FALSE GODS??? Do you have any Idea what you are talking about??? How dare you...

"Jesus is coming" Along with the entire burden of Christianity,,,

My godddd!!!! Collecting herbs is what your greedy, angry, jealous religion has put entire cultures to death for,,,, and you stand up for it???? That says a lot.

I am going to moderate myself, here.... and not return to this thread...

By the way,,, I have given the most panicked prayers to Jesus to help me with my abduction experiences,,, and NEVER ONCE WAS COMFORTED OR EVER PROTECTED,,,,,, EEEEEEVVVVVVEEEEERRRRRRR......
Out of all of the nice people at church, singing and waving their hands, and crying,,,,, not a single one of them ever offered a single word of support or advice. Just an evil little kid.

How friggin dare you..... Jake.

Please tell me that i am misunderstanding something!!!

Great Video By George Carlin On Religion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

[OnyxKnight]

it is possible to stop an alien abduction in the Name of Jesus

why is that ? time to think !




Stopping an alien abduction in the name of Jesus

5h_bhVfnzwg


investigate

http://www.alienresistance.org/

The biggest mistake you can do.

[RedeZra]

I once stopped an abduction in the name of Allah.

ok then we have one testimony about the power of Allah in stopping an alien abduction

did you try to stop it in the name of Kermit or are you just guessing it will work ?

[42]

[QUOTE
Also, why do you have that name?[/QUOTE]

Wikipedia has some insight...

[Davidallany]

ok then we have one testimony about the power of Allah in stopping an alien abduction

did you try to stop it in the name of Kermit or are you just guessing it will work ?
If you believe in Kermit, it will work, or I will change my name to Jesus.

[RedeZra]

it is possible to stop an alien abduction in the Name of Jesus


The biggest mistake you can do.

now that was a new approach... but by whom ?

[OnyxKnight]

it is possible to stop an alien abduction in the Name of Jesus


The biggest mistake you can do.

now that was a new approach... but by whom ?

Saying dwelling on religion to save you or stop a disaster from happening is a new approach?

[RedeZra]

it is possible to stop an alien abduction in the Name of Jesus


The biggest mistake you can do.

now that was a new approach... but by whom ?

Saying dwelling on religion to save you or stop a disaster from happening is a new approach?

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

[OnyxKnight]

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

He is a central figure of the emergence and continual existence of that religion. Without him, that religion wouldn't exist. I'd say he is pretty much THE religion, sorry.

And if he is an infinite living spirit, he is nothing different from any one of us. Which begs the question, why somebody doesn't make a religion out of us? I'd very much like to experience the whole god worship thing.

Strictly from an anthropological perspective of course.

[RedeZra]

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

And if he is an infinite living spirit, he is nothing different from any one of us.

but but can you cast out demons heal the sick raise the dead and walk on water

and stop alien abductions in it's track

[OnyxKnight]

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

And if he is an infinite living spirit, he is nothing different from any one of us.

but but can you cast out demons heal the sick raise the dead and walk on water

and stop alien abductions in it's track

If I have the same staff equipped with the latest technology of his species (yes I said that), then yes, I'd be able to pull off the exact same things he did, maybe even more.

[RedeZra]

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

And if he is an infinite living spirit, he is nothing different from any one of us.

but but can you cast out demons heal the sick raise the dead and walk on water

and stop alien abductions in it's track

If I have the same staff equipped with the latest technology of his species (yes I said that), then yes, I'd be able to pull off the exact same things he did, maybe even more.

ok Onyx I hope you find this staff but in the meantime I'm gonna lean on Jesus ok ; )

[42]

well Jesus is not really a religion but an infinite living spirit

He is a central figure of the emergence and continual existence of that religion. Without him, that religion wouldn't exist. I'd say he is pretty much THE religion, sorry.

And if he is an infinite living spirit, he is nothing different from any one of us. Which begs the question, why somebody doesn't make a religion out of us? I'd very much like to experience the whole god worship thing.

Strictly from an anthropological perspective of course.

Ahem... lt's time i introduced myself formally. I'm pleased to meet you all... the names 42 and I'm the son of God. And Man. And Woman.

[OnyxKnight]

ok Onyx I hope you find this staff but in the meantime I'm gonna lean on Jesus ok ; )

Be careful not to burn your face though.

They say the holy light burns the skin of the sinful.

[RedeZra]

Ahem... lt's time i introduced myself formally. I'm pleased to meet you all... the names 42 and I'm the son of God. And Man. And Woman.

hi 42 do I got news for you ; )

you are the grand grand grand I dunno in the 1000th maybe grandson of Adam and Eve

[42]

Ahem... lt's time i introduced myself formally. I'm pleased to meet you all... the names 42 and I'm the son of God. And Man. And Woman.

hi 42 do I got news for you ; )

you are the grand grand grand I dunno in the 1000th maybe grandson of Adam and Eve

Is that what it says in the bible?

[RedeZra]

ok Onyx I hope you find this staff but in the meantime I'm gonna lean on Jesus ok ; )

Be careful not to burn your face though.

They say the holy light burns the skin of the sinful.

has someone seen to many vampire movies ; )

[<8>]

wow this thread realy took off....

I have been thinking and i have never personally heard a priest talk about Alien abductions.
To bad he start to talk about them as demons, i guess when you dont have all the facts straight. (the few facts we have) Its easy to fall back on to the old Teachings, and wid the history we have on religions. Its easy to think this priest are using people like the rest have done back in history.

I sure like to hear some more from this priest, B4 i send him to hell..:P (Joke)

[D-Day]

I have a feeling the ETs would be far more likely to stop an abduction if the abductee was to tap into the spirit and energy of their higher self and demand they cease immediately. The power contained within each of us is immense beyond belief, the trick is learning how to utilise it. This leads me to one of the problems I have with "some" religions, a lot of them want you to give your own personal power away to other beings or entities, relying on them as a source of power and/or salvation rather than teaching us to do things for ourselves...

[OnyxKnight]

ok Onyx I hope you find this staff but in the meantime I'm gonna lean on Jesus ok ; )

Be careful not to burn your face though.

They say the holy light burns the skin of the sinful.

has someone seen to many vampire movies ; )

What makes you think I was alluding to anything entertaining vampire lore/trivia?

Looks like your question is also your answer.







By the way, my question is rhetorical, you don't need to answer it, Edward Cullen.

[ulli]

I told them over ten years ago to come back at midday, and ring my door bell.
Any other behavior I considered rude.

They respected that, but never, ever showed up again, not at nights, nor during the day.
I don't miss them, but perhaps they miss me.

[HORIZONS]

imho ~ To call on the name of Jesus is not to call upon some guy sitting on a chair on the right hand side of his Super-King Dad – sitting on an Elizabethan Throne up in some kingdom called heaven – waiting to come to your rescue like a knight in shinning armor when you are scared. To call upon the name of Jesus is to call upon the nature of the Christ within you – the offspring of God, the spirit of God – which is your true nature and power and dispel the physical manifestation and astral illusion that is taking place in your life, and replace it with what is true of you in spirit. You have the power within you; it is not external to you. If this can be known and experienced then this is how the natural and astral world can have no power in your life. If you are born of the spirit and understand your relationship with the Spirit of God within you, you can do many things – nothing is impossible to you. But the natural man does not understand this – it must be spiritually discerned. “We are the sons of God, but it does not yet appear what we shall be.” – Spiritual discernment and intent are paramount in understanding the name—nature—of Jesus in your life. You must have a relationship with Source, and this is what it means to be “in Christ” or to have “Christ in you” – it is to be in a spiritual attitude and altitude, a union, with the highest concept of Love you can think of – then know that it is even much higher than what you can even think of. The finite mind of man, or alien, will never understand the Infinite – it cannot be done – but it can be experienced and spiritually discerned.

[RedeZra]

You have this choice, RedEzra: you were either seriously delighting in the oppression and torture of peoples and the desolation of their cultures (and far too many to count!) or you were being flippant when it comes to such suffering.


I take no delight in suffering and it is not fair nor right to single out and blame Christianity for our bloody human history

so excuse me if I don't join in on banging up on Christianity

[OnyxKnight]

I take no delight in suffering and it is not fair nor right to single out and blame Christianity for our bloody human history

so excuse me if I don't join in on banging up on Christianity

It is always religions, of which, Christianity has provided the most deaths so far in history.

Nobody killed millions and millions of people in the name of agnosticism or atheism for example.

So excuse if I speak bad about Christianity in the name of those who cannot speak for themselves today, because somebody in the name of a stupid belief system decided to end their life.

[RedeZra]

I do not blame Christianity for our bloody history, I blame people like you who take their delight in ignoring the very best bits of a dubious book to focus on the sadistically self-indulgent things like bigotry and hatred.



you blame me ?

are you sure you have read my posts... show me where I focus on hatred

I dare you

[RedeZra]

Nobody killed millions and millions of people in the name of agnosticism or atheism for example.


see you are not informed

check out communism

[OnyxKnight]

Nobody killed millions and millions of people in the name of agnosticism or atheism for example.


see you are not informed

check out communism

Communism on paper or communism at hand?

The prior has its followers to present day, none of which killed millions of people. They still represent the majority (as they did back then).

For example the latter did not incorporate burning of churches and forbidding religions. Check history and the "communist" countries of today. They all have religious courses involved with the education in public schools.

Also, I come from a former communist country. I know how things were going on, thank you very much.

[RedeZra]

You would wriggle your way out of any of my analyses of your posts as well as anyone else lacking certain skeletal structures. You've been offensive and hateful enough in this thread.



I have neither been hateful nor offensive but I have made some jokes

not especially good ones but there have been some humour in this thread too


I seldom characterize people in person and tell them what they are so I would appreciate if you could drop that too

[Lord Sidious]

You have this choice, RedEzra: you were either seriously delighting in the oppression and torture of peoples and the desolation of their cultures (and far too many to count!) or you were being flippant when it comes to such suffering.


I take no delight in suffering and it is not fair nor right to single out and blame Christianity for our bloody human history

so excuse me if I don't join in on banging up on Christianity

So what is with your ''jokes'' about the past behaviour then?




You would wriggle your way out of any of my analyses of your posts as well as anyone else lacking certain skeletal structures. You've been offensive and hateful enough in this thread.



I have neither been hateful nor offensive but I have made some jokes

not especially good ones but there have been some humour in this thread too

I seldom characterize people in person and tell them what they are so I would appreciate if you could drop that too

Hey erm, holy roller guy with the name of a gay porno star, you know that other guy?
Jake Jake Binks? The mod?
Do you think he reacted like he did because he agreed with you?
Or me?
You have been offensive, trying to brush off past behaviour of your church as if it didn't happen.
We know next to nothing about the druids, thanks to your church and holy rollers who called them devil worshippers.
I would suspect quite a few ''christians'' did and more will find out that they have been condemned by their god for their behaviour.
If you truly followed your jesus, you would not behave in this way.

[Mandala]

I would call on the Source or Creator and say no, I am a free will being. It probably makes no difference because most of the grey abductions are by robotic biological entities that are programmed and have no feelings or rational human decision making.

For example: this hurts, you are uncomfortable or you are about to have a stroke from sheer fear. So what, too bad, this is my job and we have orders.

So sorry to have downer input, but doesn't this seem to be the case in most instances?

[TigaHawk]

Just a little game of logic here, trying to get an idea of whether the aliens are truly evil.
If the ptb say aliens are evil, and Jesus is good, where do demons fit in?

Personally, I do not believe that religions were made by aliens. The origin of enlightenment is a higher source.

Humans can receive telepathic messages from all kinds of sources, but must learn to distinguish them, and see them for what they are.

There is a small element of aliens who tell lies, who abduct, and display demonic behavior, but they are not demons.
The vast majority of ET are advanced civilizations that want to do no harm.

Yet none of them are either angels nor demons, who are discarnate entities.
ETs have bodies and a life span.
Whatever voice speaks to us from within, we must learn to trace it to it's source, and discard the lower messages in favor of higher ones.
The highest messages allow for the happiness of all.


Just a little game of logic here to..:P


Man was not smart enough to write any of the religions, and I mean the Eastern Spiritualism (the-self), Western Religions (God, - which I always have referred to as the “Extraterrestrial”) or American Creationism (Nature itself, including man). One of the oldest religious text “The Egyptian Book of the Dead” (1*) dates back more than 3000 BC. When writing was invented and the scribes and artists first wrote down what the priests had used in their prayers and litanies, they were very perplexed and hardly understood the text. What I am getting at is that all religions were not composed by humans at the time they were created. And even the Bible is very specific in that: 2 Tim. 3:16 “ALL scripture is inspired by God…,” the key word here is ’inspired’, irrespective of who wrote it down. SO WHO INSPIRED THE PROPHETS?

That brings me to the next question. If there is a God, why would there not be just ONE book, ONE religion, and ONE clear answer to all human questions? Just look at the Bible; it is written in such a way that it can be interpreted a dozen different ways, and if you do not know how to THINK, you read the Bible literally: Mt 13:13-15 “This is why I speak to them in parables, because - - -”. I have the impression that it was purposely written in this manner to create as much division as possible among humans. And with great success; how many wars has the world seen, how many people have died?; all in the name of God or religion.


If you take a look at alot of the religions, all thruought historoty, you'll find they have a lot in common.

Example - Born of a Virgin Mother, 13 disciples, Died and resurected on the 3rd day, yadda yadda yadda.....

Pretty much - change a few names - a few stories ever so slightly, and bang. You have every religion in history under you're foot.

What does this say to you? We've got a bunch of writers all thruought history that realy realy realy lacked creativity but had a great idea - so they stole bits and pieces and changed others to complete their book of religion?

Or. Was the very first religion (pick one, i aint starting no debates here :P) a true story, one that inspired and enlightend people, one that was written down to be passed on to generation to generation.

Did something happen to the world they lived in? A cataclysm? The End of Days as mentioned in the bible. And after the end of days - when rubble and ruins were all that was left of our empire, and a new world slowly unfolding, new roots in how we evolve with technology etc etc etc. Causing the world to be derasticly different from the one you once knew. Say this new world continues unfolding, and it unfolds so differently from the one you once knew, trying to describe the old world with words from the new would be impossible and pointless? Like going from powering the world from a bunch of gemstones and sound, and trying to describe the feats of a man/god in a world that knows only petrol, and nuculear energy and computer chips? It just wouldent work would it.

You would have to re-write the story. You'd take the basics - the clear message the first book tried to get thru to people - but you'd change stuff so it would fit in with the world you live in today, so it makes sense, so its understandable, and doesnt seem like a random book they pulled out of the fictional farytale department?


Thats what i think has happened anyway.

[Omni]

This makes a lot more sense now... I've tangled with Red before and seen his flawed thought patterns. Him being a fundamental christian makes a lot more sense now. I thought I sense'd the indoctrination in this poster. Sorry for flaming a little but I took offense to the joke about people getting killed for healing people with herbs... And I also really despise christianity because as a child I could psychicly FEEL the practically INFINITE AMOUNT of suffering that religion has caused, not to mention the ridiculous amount of fear, judgments, control, and delusions it has propagated.


(shame you can't burn us for not complying, though. Weren't they the glory days?)

Thanks Oliver. That is my favorite comment in this thread :)

And I fully agree. Christianity is not in the spirit of Avalon at all IMO. 95% of the people here know better, and 4%+ of that remaining 5% are fine people, and IMHO got brainwashed since a little kid to believe what they do and don't even give credence to many things in the bible... Yet if it's all the words of God, and you BELIEVE That, practice the whole ****ing thing(excuse my french). Seriously. If you think a decent fraction of the bible is not the words of God, just dump christianity alotgether IMO. Use your own heart to discern, and see that divine concepts(should you define them that way) come in all forms and locations. EVERY word is the words of God, after all if there is one creator he/she/it made every single word and every single formation of words and concepts. So they are ALL the words of God.

I have little doubt the guys who made christianity would have killed Jesus too if he was around in their time messing with their control of the population and teaching them etc.

And for the record, I've tried the Jesus route for forces torturing me etc. They laughed in my face and kept torturing me...

Red, if there is a satan(which I would bet a lot there isn't), he probably helped create christianity TBH. Just look at what it has done to humanity. It is a subversive element of our society. I'm not saying it's all bad. It had a large good side to it. But that good side is possible without the delusions...

[DNA]

I doubt the aliens would care one bit about some mythological figure. You'd do as well by riding away from them on a unicorn.




The mind is probably the most powerful and impact force in creation and you should not underestimate the power of your own subconscious mind. Remember that no matter what a person says or does all action originates in the mind. In some instances, the actions of the mind are manifested on a conscious level.

Yes. It´s not about Jesus himself. If a person is religious, and truly believes the power of Jesus, when he orders for something to stop in the name of Him, it will really come from inside, and it will be powerful.

Agreed RMorgan

I personally don't believe in Christianity, and I do my best to pull myself up out of hatred of it.
And at that I fail sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,there are some amazing works out there to suggest there might be some truth to christianity.

After reading the biography of Edgar Cayce I was amazed at how many times Arch angels came through him in the sessions.
These Arch Angels spoke of a reverance for Christ.

Also, the same Arch Angels who spoke through Cayce or were mentioned in the sessions were mentioned in exactlly the same magnitude of importance in The Urantia Book.
As well was Jesus mentioned in The Urantia Book.
Also mentioned prominantly in both works, the ArchAngel Michael as being a over seer of our galaxy.



Again, I am not a believer, and it is probably because the remnants of todays christianity have little to do with JC's teachings.
I will say,,,there is an enigma here though.

[<8>]

If you take a look at alot of the religions, all thruought historoty, you'll find they have a lot in common.

Example - Born of a Virgin Mother, 13 disciples, Died and resurected on the 3rd day, yadda yadda yadda.....

Pretty much - change a few names - a few stories ever so slightly, and bang. You have every religion in history under you're foot.

What does this say to you? We've got a bunch of writers all thruought history that realy realy realy lacked creativity but had a great idea - so they stole bits and pieces and changed others to complete their book of religion?

Or. Was the very first religion (pick one, i aint starting no debates here :P) a true story, one that inspired and enlightend people, one that was written down to be passed on to generation to generation.

Did something happen to the world they lived in? A cataclysm? The End of Days as mentioned in the bible. And after the end of days - when rubble and ruins were all that was left of our empire, and a new world slowly unfolding, new roots in how we evolve with technology etc etc etc. Causing the world to be derasticly different from the one you once knew. Say this new world continues unfolding, and it unfolds so differently from the one you once knew, trying to describe the old world with words from the new would be impossible and pointless? Like going from powering the world from a bunch of gemstones and sound, and trying to describe the feats of a man/god in a world that knows only petrol, and nuculear energy and computer chips? It just wouldent work would it.

You would have to re-write the story. You'd take the basics - the clear message the first book tried to get thru to people - but you'd change stuff so it would fit in with the world you live in today, so it makes sense, so its understandable, and doesnt seem like a random book they pulled out of the fictional farytale department?


Thats what i think has happened anyway.

No debates...oki my friend...:)

But i hope we can agree on that the history are written by winners??

I might be wrong in some parts! But i am sure when i kick the bucket im gonna laugh at the history they have forced up on us, and they still do to the kids of this world...

If you dont see your living in a big lie.....well i am sorry i cant help ya

All i can say is " ignorance are bliss"

[RedeZra]

it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

[Lord Sidious]

it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

So you say. :p

[Someoneson1]

Hello all. Interesting post as I have had this experience.

My experience began about six months after my spiritual awakening. As I was learning all sorts of new things I was often fearful of changing my mind. I believe this was the opening for such an experience (fear)

The experiences in brief;
The first experience was while I was sleeping. I was laying on my back sound asleep when an energy encompassed me from above me and started to sink into my body. I remember coming awake and trying to say "my fathers will be done" but it was like speaking through molasses. Immediately I thought the words (Jesus Christ) and said energy shot out my feet and I got up for a smoke freaking out.

This experience kept reoccurring over the next few years until one day (I was in a deep depression about all I was learning) I was sleeping or trying to just on the edge of consciousness this energy shot into my back and I used the same two words (Jesus christ) to dispel said energy. This time however the energy did come out of my body but stayed at my back and started pushing my arms and legs as if I was a puppet, and finally in my mind, I stood up and told said energy to get the #%##% out of my house and went on to affirm my space.

Later, (as I was young in understanding) I would realize through the metaphor "you can feed a man a fish or teach him how to fish" that I was learning to accept my Devine nature within and over the years have come to love more completely.

I used to say "I wouldn't wish what I have been through on my worst enemy but I would recommend it to all my friends"
Well... I guess I still say it.

Thank you for the opportunity to share these experiences outside of my circle, it is a rare subject.

[42]

it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

Such as "Kermit?"

[New Dawn]

it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

such as Kermit?

No, santa! :)

[noxon medem]

:)


I doubt the aliens would care one bit about some mythological figure. You'd do as well by riding away from them on a unicorn.

!

- so, friend ,
are not the very
aliens turning into
modern mythological figures ?

(present in the collective psyche)

- and

(aided by these forums)

- aw! (au?)

:fish2:

nm

..
-

[42]

it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

such as Kermit?

No, santa! :)
Jake suggests invoking the power of the easter bunny in this case... I like it except that it's two words. Unless of course you are on very familiar terms and can address him simply as "bunny"...

[Lord Sidious]

Jake suggests invoking the power of the easter bunny in this case... I like it except that it's two words. Unless of course you are on very familiar terms and can address him simply as "bunny"...

How about easterbunnynugget?
That is one word. :p

[ulli]

Jake suggests invoking the power of the easter bunny in this case... I like it except that it's two words. Unless of course you are on very familiar terms and can address him simply as "bunny"...

that should work, as well as wearning those Playboy ears in bed at night.

:cool:

[42]

that should work, as well as wearning those Playboy ears in bed at night.

:cool:

Perfect. I knew if i hung with this thread long enough that something would make sense. Thanks Ulli you are the best.

[noxon medem]

- Ord
( no ..)

:)


it is amazing and awsome that an alien abduction can be stopped with a single word ; )

- another quote:
" Respect is much more than empty politeness "

Personal intention was a (actualy two) word (s) ?
( Please )

Another thousand years , to go ...

( and music is a key, or "harmony" )

Like moving, even in dance ....
- and
Will , maybe .

- "Maybe" is the word.
(and maybe there were no abduction in the first place)

- Or "or"
( Or not )

- Will, is too vague
Will not, is too decisive .

(or just a perspective)

All Well All

:fish2:

nm

[ulli]

Hey lookie another one of my typos...
I meant to write wearing,

but it looks I secretly meant "weaning"...
Which gives it all new meaning,
Which means I will be cleaning
up my act

[42]

Hey lookie another one of my typos...
I meant to write wearing,

but it looks I secretly meant "weaning"...
Which gives it all new meaning,
Which means I will be cleaning
up my act

Ulli you are a poet, but you don't know it.

[Davy]

Nothing your saying is factual, just more unstructured encoding "Christian" talking points. Your response is exactly why it is pointless to try and have a sane conversation with Christians. Your arguments are base on endless contradictions. Throughout almost its entire time on Earth, the motor driving Christianity has been in addition to the FEAR of death FEAR of the devil and FEAR of hell so there for if humans fear your god so aliens should too right? I believe your chosen-people mentality is showing along with the arrogances that Christianity breeds.

[RedeZra]

do you think that TPTB and their top dogs are under demonic possession ?

[ulli]

The question remains what WORD will stop an abduction in mid flight

Here it is....neither word, nor thought. Absolute silencio

http://www.stopabductions.com/

[42]

The question remains what WORD will stop an abduction in mid flight

Here it is....neither word, nor thought. Absolute silencio

http://www.stopabductions.com/
can you get one with bunny ears?

[Davy]

I was wondering when Christianity was going to start cashing in on extraterrestrials. ‎"But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money!!" RIP George Carlin.

[New Dawn]

do you think that TPTB and their top dogs are under demonic possession ?

No, they're just total greedy, selfish, dark minded people. I doubt there are demons as such. To my mind, there can't be any demons if there's no Satan, and no Satan if there is no God - so there you go :)

[ulli]

Nothing your saying is factual, just more unstructured encoding "Christian" talking points. Your response is exactly why it is pointless to try and have a sane conversation with Christians. Your arguments are base on endless contradictions. Throughout almost its entire time on Earth, the motor driving Christianity has been in addition to the FEAR of death FEAR of the devil and FEAR of hell so there for if humans fear your god so aliens should too right? I believe your chosen-people mentality is showing along with the arrogances that Christianity breeds.


There is something that must be understood
Belief creates reality
Reality is the result of thoughts, feelings and intent,
Mix those ingredients
Let time act on them,
Cook them, and you have the results in 3 D.

The problem with organized religion is that it
produces zealots, and often they
focus more on Satan, and non-believers
than on healing and happiness.

Once you become aware of this
mysterious fact
that wishes can come true,

but also non-wish, if formulated through intense fear,
then you can become responsible...

You become aware and careful about your thoughts and wishes and desires
and furthermore
you become grateful
that such an amazing system
has been put in place
just for you.

By whom?

[42]

do you think that TPTB and their top dogs are under demonic possession ?

I'll tell you who i think may be under demonic possession... the hundreds and hundreds of "men of God" clergymen that have emotionally, physically, sexually and spiritually abused their congregation (including my own family members (sexually)) for generations in the name of religion.

PS calling out the name of Jesus while being sexually assaulted by a priest did not help my brother overcome that alien invasion !!!!

[Jake]

Sorry, couldn't help it. ;)

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/11/hmo-jesus_0.jpg


Seriously, though. The way to stop an abduction is to stand in your own power. Invoke whatever name you want to, it is the act of taking back and demonstrating your OWN power. It does not have a right to enter your space without 'permission'. And it Knows that! Personal barriers and fear will have to be transcended and overcome. There is nobody that is going to save you but yourself. Remember the living God that is within you. You are a powerful being, and when you stand up and shine the light that is WITHIN YOU,,, you will create a space that they cannot enter. THAT is what will impress a true God of the universe! YOU! YOU are the true god of the universe.

[<8>]

Sorry, couldn't help it. ;)

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/11/hmo-jesus_0.jpg


Seriously, though. The way to stop an abduction is to stand in your own power. Invoke whatever name you want to, it is the act of taking back and demonstrating your OWN power. It does not have a right to enter your space without 'permission'. And it Knows that! Personal barriers and fear will have to be transcended and overcome. There is nobody that is going to save you but yourself. Remember the living God that is within you. You are a powerful being, and when you stand up and shine the light that is WITHIN YOU,,, you will create a space that they cannot enter. THAT is what will impress a true God of the universe! YOU! YOU are the true god of the universe.


Thanks Jake.....you read my mind..

The fuss on this thread, clearly shows why we are there we are to day.

[New Dawn]

Don't forget when Betty (as in Betty and Barney) was taken, she didn't ramble on about Jesus, she simply said "you're hurting me", and they stopped after that....Maybe you've just got to tell them?? But as I've not been abducted, I can't say I know for sure of course, but Betty is definitely one of the best pieces of evidence of both ET's and how to communicate with them if you don't like what they're doing.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

whatever the word is you use to ignite your defenses. the effectiveness of that word is directly proportional to your belief in that word. the word you speak resonates in effectiveness because of the intention and belief embedded in that word spoken from your mouth.

N
N

[Davidallany]

Here is something about religion BS. Praises to my Dog.

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[Davy]

do you think that TPTB and their top dogs are under demonic possession ?

If you believe reptilians are demons then yes.

[Davy]

Ourselves. Our actions creates our reality.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

if an alien wanted to abduct me .. id ask it if it was tickleish first .. or if it liked pillow fights .. because thats exactly what i would do if i met an alien ! have a pillow fight .. or even a food fight ... can you imagine how much fun that would be !



man !

[Lord Sidious]

if an alien wanted to abduct me .. id ask it if it was tickleish first .. or if it liked pillow fights .. because thats exactly what i would do if i met an alien ! have a pillow fight .. or even a food fight ... can you imagine how much fun that would be !



man !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rb62cf9JcY

Damn, but I loved that show.
My stepfather did too, he used to be reduced to tears from laughing.

[Mike]

easy guys. religion is a loaded topic and people get passionate. i understand that, but i wonder if the reactions would have been similar had buddhist or pagan rituals been suggested. Christianity just seems to get under people's skin...

yes, Redezra made a flippant comment about Christianity's treatment of Pagans, but i see him/her as acting logically here (i didn't say appropriately!). he/she started a thread with the intent to help Avalonians, and his/her beliefs were being slagged off from the jump. if he/she would have been shown just a modicum of respect, i doubt that post would have even existed.

i was raised Catholic, like many of you i'm sure, but no longer identify with that label and now consider myself label-less, a free-agent so to speak. my beliefs are nebulous and always changing/evolving, but that doesn't give me/us a right to patronize something we no longer view as particularly useful.

Sid made an astute analogy (imho, though likely condescending to Christians - sorry Chrisitians!) comparing religion to training wheels, and i'm sure this is how many of us view it; but under that rationale, wouldn't condemning a person's religious beliefs be just like condemning a 5 year old for using training wheels? and remember, we were all at that stage once - riding with training wheels.

another poster said that Christianity is not in the spirit of Avalon, and i disagree completely. the spirit of Avalon is all inclusive - Catholic, Jew, Pagan, New-Age, Agnostic, Atheist...you name it. please disagree with respect (see: Ulli)

[RedeZra]

thanks for the thoughtful and well put comment Chinaski ; )


I'm a non-native English speaker so I might mess up some meanings here and there and maybe make mistakes that turns into misunderstandings

still I'm just sharing truth as I see it and don't expect everybody to agree with me... and those that disagree and the thought cops can't stop me from sharing things I find important... not now and not never ; )

[ulli]

The other day I posted a website to make light of the subject.
http://www.stopabductions.com/
I hadn't looked at it properly, and thought it was a joke.

I wish to put the record straight now.
Regardless of religious convictions or faith issues
this is a practical solution to telepathic invasion.
Now that I read more pages on the site I believe it is genuine
and contains lots of very interesting informations that could benefit abductees.

So I just wanted to give it a plug. This is a totally non-commercial site...
The man makes these hats for free, and the testimonies are worth reading.

[Hervé]

do you think that TPTB and their top dogs are under demonic possession ?

I'll tell you who i think may be under demonic possession... the hundreds and hundreds of "men of God" clergymen that have emotionally, physically, sexually and spiritually abused their congregation (including my own family members (sexually)) for generations in the name of religion.

PS calling out the name of Jesus while being sexually assaulted by a priest did not help my brother overcome that alien invasion !!!!

Terribly real...

This reminded me of a comment Atticus made (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11154-Charles-comments-about-a-False-Flag-ET-threat-event-important-new-information&p=104363&viewfull=1#post104363):




http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Charles' comments about a False Flag ET threat event: important new information

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by 4th Sky http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=104266#post104266)
Charles,
What is the religion of the 33? Luciferians? Do you believe any of their religious beliefs?

They are far older than a any religion,and it's the stinking lows who do the Satan stuff , which is also rubbish ,I've dealt with lots of them,sure they throw blood at you,and scream some mad biblical **** then..they cry just like everyone else when they realise what I am ,and who I work for,they told fairy tales to you know,guess what part I play ......


I guess it's time to (re-)discover what's really, practically effective.

[New Dawn]

Good point. I didn't mean to be mean to Redezra or anyone for their beliefs - if anything, I get frustrated that I can't help them free themselves of the religious program that someone has installed into them, probably from a young age. I wish they would help themselves by deleting that program..For religious people, freedom starts there, and it bothers me that so many are still trapped under such an old program...or should I say virus?. Sorry if this offends, but that's just how I feel about it!

[RedeZra]

Good point. I didn't mean to be mean to Redezra or anyone for their beliefs - if anything, I get frustrated that I can't help them free themselves of the religious program that someone has installed into them, probably from a young age.

it's ok New Dawn but I come from materialistic middle class with no religious upbringing whatsoever... I don't even attend church or christian clubs lol

I'm a free spirit and independent thinker ; )

[Nanoo Nanoo]

For Lord Sid ... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9g1yRXF8I8