Huge UFOs caught on Telescope - 2011

[ktlight]

Thought provoking - to say the least

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[Snoweagle]

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[Erich]

Wonderful. Outer space seems more like a vast ocean than anything else.

[DNA]

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I wouldn't presume to accept everything our text books have told us when it comes to space and what lives there.
The Tether video is considered classic nasa footage, and it looks like an ocean of life forms swimming around the tether.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFBUS0kiSA

[Hervé]

I wouldn't presume to accept everything our text books have told us when it comes to space and what lives there.
The Tether video is considered classic nasa footage, and it looks like an ocean of life forms swimming around the tether.

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When I first saw that video, I thought it was a hoax and that they filmed a drop of water under a microscope... brownian motions included... the likeness was too striking!

So, I watched it again and again... and indeed... this is space...

[Hervé]

Talking of life imbued space travelling "machines" check what this guy has to say...


M0wBXNAiOys

Adair explains how at age 17 he built an electro-magnetic containment plasma fusion rocket engine and was invited by Air Force bigwigs to launch it at White Sands Missil Range. That led to his being taken to Area 51 where he saw an engine that was light years beyond anything on Earth - so sophisticated it responded to the thoughts and emotions of it's pilots.

[KosmicKat]

If... those are some big ifs

It doesn't seem entirely unreasonable for a large vessel to conceal its presence by holding position where it would eclipse a star, far enough from Earth that it would be no more than a speck to anything less than a good-sized telescope, in much the same way that pilots in the age before radar would hide at high altitude in the glare of the sun.

[Grizzom]

Looks like underwater video's of jelly fish to me.

[Sugarific]

Those are some amazing images. Now I REALLY am getting my telescope out again. :D

[noprophet]

Maybe a larger version of the ~thing at 1:33
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[Hervé]

Maybe a larger version of the ~thing at 1:33
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That's indeed a possibility, stepping away from purely "mechanical" to... well, something else.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!
Also the OP IIRC has been proven to be a hoax in the past, the guy was found to be using models that he had made.
I believe in life in space just not BS.

Hurritt

ps no offence meant to the OP.

[Hervé]

The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!
Also the OP IIRC has been proven to be a hoax in the past, the guy was found to be using models that he had made.
I believe in life in space just not BS.

Hurritt

ps no offence meant to the OP.

Sorry Hurrit, I do not put too much trust into ATS debunks.

The OP video is from 2011, not older takes.

however, if you have links, etc., it would be much appreciated.

PS: I think the author of the video gives the locations where to aim telescopes and start seeing 'em things for oneself.

[DNA]

Hurritt if TPTB only have to put the bare minimum into debunking a story for you to make up your mind, might I suggest you try to maybe not come to a conclusian about things so quickly.
For some one with a couple greys for an avatar, I would think you would be a little more open minded about this stuff.
I don't believe 99% of the stuff I entertain,,,but,,,at the same time,,,I don't disbelieve it either, because,,,,and get this Hurritt,,,,,,,
DISBELIEF is BELIEF, it is the exact same thing.
People Believe or Disbelieve because it makes their life easier, they no long have to weigh in on whatever they have come to a conclusian about.





The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!



http://www.viewzone.com/tether5.jpg
If the plate-like objects pass behind the 12 mile long tether, which is itself more than 80 nautical miles from the space vehicle, the estimated size must then be about 2-3 miles in diameter!

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Hurritt if TPTB only have to put the bare minimum into debunking a story for you to make up your mind, might I suggest you try to maybe not come to a conclusian about things so quickly.
For some one with a couple greys for an avatar, I would think you would be a little more open minded about this stuff.
I don't believe 99% of the stuff I entertain,,,but,,,at the same time,,,I don't disbelieve it either, because,,,,and get this Hurritt,,,,,,,
DISBELIEF is BELIEF, it is the exact same thing.
People Believe or Disbelieve because it makes their life easier, they no long have to weigh in on whatever they have come to a conclusian about.





The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!



http://www.viewzone.com/tether5.jpg
If the plate-like objects pass behind the 12 mile long tether, which is itself more than 80 nautical miles from the space vehicle, the estimated size must then be about 2-3 miles in diameter!

The quote under the Ice particle picture is just plain wrong.
Might i suggest doing the minimum of research before accusing me of forming premature opinions.
Here is a video EXPLAINING the 'tether footage'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce6QUJ0idYo
This is just a clip, please watch the entire program.
And look into John Lenard Walson.
As i stated in my original response i fully believe in Alien life (hence my avatar) i just don't believe MOST of what i see without proof.
My outlook has been honed with years of research, disappointment and hoaxes.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!
Also the OP IIRC has been proven to be a hoax in the past, the guy was found to be using models that he had made.
I believe in life in space just not BS.

Hurritt

ps no offence meant to the OP.

Sorry Hurrit, I do not put too much trust into ATS debunks.

The OP video is from 2011, not older takes.

however, if you have links, etc., it would be much appreciated.

PS: I think the author of the video gives the locations where to aim telescopes and start seeing 'em things for oneself.

Oh so it was debunked on ATS as well huh.
Cant remember the details but was it not his own partner that outed him as a fraud? (have no desire to dig back into it all)
And i don't see how it being modern footage makes any difference if he is using models?
Funny how no one else has seen these things, oh wait his camera equipment is special.

Edit to add: In fact didn't somebody find the models he was using ........

[Hervé]

The tether footage was ice particles and was perfectly recreated to PROVE it!
Also the OP IIRC has been proven to be a hoax in the past, the guy was found to be using models that he had made.
I believe in life in space just not BS.

Hurritt

ps no offence meant to the OP.

Sorry Hurrit, I do not put too much trust into ATS debunks.

The OP video is from 2011, not older takes.

however, if you have links, etc., it would be much appreciated.

PS: I think the author of the video gives the locations where to aim telescopes and start seeing 'em things for oneself.

Oh so it was debunked on ATS as well huh.
Cant remember the details but was it not his own partner that outed him as a fraud? (have no desire to dig back into it all)
And i don't see how it being modern footage makes any difference if he is using models?
Funny how no one else has seen these things, oh wait his camera equipment is special.

Edit to add: In fact didn't somebody find the models he was using ........

Showing how something could be done doesn't prove it's been done that way, just introduces doubts and uncertainties.

Interesting no one spilled the beans on that other thread....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28472-Huge-UFOs-caught-on-Telescope-2011&p=289143&viewfull=1#post289143

In any case I still am interested in any links.

[DNA]

http://www.viewzone.com/tether5.jpg
If the plate-like objects pass behind the 12 mile long tether, which is itself more than 80 nautical miles from the space vehicle, the estimated size must then be about 2-3 miles in diameter!

Here is a video EXPLAINING the 'tether footage'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce6QUJ0idYo
.[/QUOTE]

Look, I watched your video. And I don't see how someone shining a laser over a plastic filiment in a darkened conference room recreates a 12 mile long tether eighty miles from the camera in space.

I'm not saying I know for sure there are giant whale like creatures two miles in diameter flying around in space. But I am saying this, NASA and it's sister agencies in other countries are the only one's on earth who really know what is going on in space, and the lies they have been caught in time and time again will make me
always suspicious of their explanations.

NASA's word can not be trusted, bottom line.
The United States spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year on intelligence and a huge portion of that expenditure goes into departments who's only job is to debunk or discredit in order to hide or cloud the truth.

And if a debunking is done by a NASA representitive,,,,,,,it means less to me than
poop on the bottom of my shoe.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree :)
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago :)

Hurritt

[DNA]

Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree :)
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago :)

Hurritt

I for one appreciate the info Hurritt, but I've dealt with hardcore debunkers so long, it's a knee jerk reaction when I throw something at them. :)
That being said, your tone earlier was remnicent of that.
We are all trying to learn from imperfect sources of information, and the last thing we need is some one scoffing or accusing someone through inference that they are a gullible ass just because they are entertaining the notion that something has merrit.

Again, I appreciate the information. Just leave the condescending attitude out of it next time. :)

[Hervé]

For those interested in digging a bit more -- as I wrote too fast regarding an ATS debunk, it was in fact a smear campaign -- here is John Lenard Walson YouTube channel:

z6qOm-vrifI


and home page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson


In digging further, I learnt that the guy is a photographer "hors pair" and demonstrates the Moon to be quite colorful.

For comparison, see the video from noprophet at post # 7 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28475-Space-Jellyfish&p=289690&viewfull=1#post289690) and checkout the "no-shadow" objects near surface... compare those with the ones seen in the Tether video.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree :)
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago :)

Hurritt

I for one appreciate the info Hurritt, but I've dealt with hardcore debunkers so long, it's a knee jerk reaction when I throw something at them. :)
That being said, your tone earlier was remnicent of that.
We are all trying to learn from imperfect sources of information, and the last thing we need is some one scoffing or accusing someone through inference that they are a gullible ass just because they are entertaining the notion that something has merrit.

Again, I appreciate the information. Just leave the condescending attitude out of it next time. :)

Agreed, It seems we both have a hatred of debunkers:)
My post was a tad condescending, for that i apologise.

Hurritt

[DNA]

Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree :)
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago :)

Hurritt

I for one appreciate the info Hurritt, but I've dealt with hardcore debunkers so long, it's a knee jerk reaction when I throw something at them. :)
That being said, your tone earlier was remnicent of that.
We are all trying to learn from imperfect sources of information, and the last thing we need is some one scoffing or accusing someone through inference that they are a gullible ass just because they are entertaining the notion that something has merrit.

Again, I appreciate the information. Just leave the condescending attitude out of it next time. :)

Agreed, It seems we both have a hatred of debunkers:)
My post was a tad condescending, for that i apologise.

Hurritt

Thanks Bro :)
I was a bit touchy in that last post, sorry about that.
It must be harmones, :)
It's a difficult road to hoe and your right, there is a lot of crap out there to lead us off the trail.

Thanks again for your information and your understanding
DNA

[HURRITT ENYETO]

For those interested in digging a bit more -- as I wrote too fast regarding an ATS debunk, it was in fact a smear campaign -- here is John Lenard Walson YouTube channel:

z6qOm-vrifI


and home page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson


In digging further, I learnt that the guy is a photographer "hors pair" and demonstrates the Moon to be quite colorful.

For comparison, see the video from noprophet at post # 7 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28475-Space-Jellyfish&p=289690&viewfull=1#post289690) and checkout the "no-shadow" objects near surface... compare those with the ones seen in the Tether video.

A smear campaign?
All these forums ATS, Godlike productions, Disclose Tv etc must all be wrong then, and have some reason to run a smear campaign against this man. Its all out there, just google it,

How do you mean "a photographer hors pair"? From some of his videos ive watched he has a very BAD grasp of basic photographic principals (as many have stated)

I don't know why you give this fraud the time of day. Give anybody half an hour to look into this guy and i bet they have serious doubts. What about identical helicopters appearing in 2 different videos taken years apart (the same clip edited) Why do you think he shut up for years only now to reappear? It was because he was busted when he failed to deliver on every one of his claims.

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

[Hervé]

[...]

... well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Indeed!

And anyone else.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Amzer Zo,

I'm sorry man, i just get passionate about this stuff and try to help people to not fall down the same hole's i did.
Who am i too tell you what to believe.
Sorry brother.

Hurritt

[Hervé]

Amzer Zo,

I'm sorry man, i just get passionate about this stuff and try to help people to not fall down the same hole's i did.
Who am i too tell you what to believe.
Sorry brother.

Hurritt

No problem!

I appreciate the passion (latin blood) for something someone is convinced of based on facts.

It remains I still would like some links other than ATS, GLP or the likes.

Peace.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I have just come across a book that mentions manisolas. Could this explain orbs & ships that look like lifeforms?


Arktos: the polar myth in science, symbolism, and Nazi survival
By Joscelyn Godwin
http://books.google.com/books?id=26v0qQcI0vwC&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=manisolas&source=bl&ots=Fya01NbdZU&sig=DFzN9kkIvLaX1vJIzpjYRre9oBk&hl=en&ei=XkVSTvKnFISIhQfy3fnUBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=manisolas&f=false

[Hervé]

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Hi Hurrit!

I borrowed this from The one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28683-Multiple-ufo-s-during-during-moons-orbit-on-23-August-2011&p=290903&viewfull=1#post290903 ) and see for yourself:

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According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

There's at least another video floating around YouTube which shows similar events but I lost the link so I couldn't provide it in our debate. I am thankful to The One for this one.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Hi Hurrit!

I borrowed this from The one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28683-Multiple-ufo-s-during-during-moons-orbit-on-23-August-2011&p=290903&viewfull=1#post290903 ) and see for yourself:

IHt-2DqvzoI

According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

There's at least another video floating around YouTube which shows similar events but I lost the link so I couldn't provide it in our debate. I am thankful to The One for this one.

Hiya Amzer Zo.

The posted clip can't really be compared to the original video we were debating.
Its one thing to show tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon, and quite another to show multiple, very complex and defined what look like star Wars ships.

I have seen many awesome UFO clips (some even from NASA) and also seen the huge objects around the Sun (although it could be argued that they are digital artefacts ) I don't want you to believe i am a sceptic as that couldn't be further from the truth!!

In fact i reported on Avalon the other week of my own close encounter with a UFO apart from ufo threads etc i have started.
I just don't believe that one particular guys claims thats all. I'm all for Aliens :)

Cheers man
Hurritt

[winston smith1971]

HURRITT ENYETO is this guy a fraud then? I have read this thread and i was amazed when i first watched the vid, but like you i need proof from several sources to corroborate anything. Like you said how come only one guy has filmed these huge crafts? Can you post links to how he used models? I feel IMHO too many people believe things instantly, i do like empirical evidence if possible or independent sources to back things up. I feel you should not personally get stick because you are trying to help people not to go down dead ends and fall for lies or disinfo. I'm not having ago at any other posters this is a very emotive subject and can cause feelings to run high.The main problem i face when trying to discuss these type of subjects is cretinous people ridiculing without doing any of their own independent research. Keep up the good fight. Cheers Winston

[winston smith1971]

I found some more vids by Walson, i dont know if this as a little more credibility to his claims, You be the Judge...
http://blip.tv/fast-far-above-space-and-time/episode-63-satellite-zoom-far-above-space-and-time-700968#disqus_thread

http://blip.tv/fast-far-above-space-and-time/episode-60-far-above-space-and-time-john-mr-d-on-the-moon-feb-11-2008-670156

The Plot thickens... have just been on rense.com who i believe was a big supporter of Mr. Walson all the videos i tried to look at have been removed by the user? I don't know why.

[Violet]

Those are some amazing images. Now I REALLY am getting my telescope out again. :D

I wonder what (affordable) telescope would come close to getting that precision...

[Sugarific]

Those are some amazing images. Now I REALLY am getting my telescope out again. :D

I wonder what (affordable) telescope would come close to getting that precision...

Yeah, good point. I don't think the video mentioned what sort of telescope was used, did it?

[WhiteFeather]

[Mod-edit - brief response deleted - lets find more respectful ways to register our dissent. Thanks. -Paul.]
You are all over it Paul.

[Hervé]

[...]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHt-2DqvzoI

According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

[...]



Its one thing to show tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon, and quite another to show multiple, very complex and defined what look like star Wars ships.
[...]
Cheers man
Hurritt

This is where the perspectives split apart: These "tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon" are HUGE! Detectable with the use of a simple, inexpensive spotting scope.

If you cannot concede to that, there isn't much else I can say/write.

Once one can accept the enormous size of these objects, then compare Walson's shots of the Moon surface (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6qOm-vrifI) with what's revealed of the Moon surface in that other video showing "no-shadow objets," (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjmEIgYRnk) then may be one can conceive there's something to Walson's claim he pushed simple optics to the limit of diffraction. In other days someone achieved that with microscopes... check out Rife and what happened to him and his inventions.

Now, to get an idea on how such huge "machines" are mechanically possible, I encourage anyone to watch Stan Deyo's presentation.

Also, in that presentation, he gives an example on how devious psyops can get to:


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[Violet]

Not contesting the images but I'm thinking of purchasing a telescope soon. Hence the question for more details. I would be more than happy to invest in a durable tool that will allow me to at least co-observe these miraculous events.

[Hervé]

:dance:


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:dance:

[Gridkeeper]

I will answer all questions regarding Mr.Walson. Although I will not reveal everything and when I don't i will explain why as best I can, thanks.

[Hervé]

I will answer all questions regarding Mr.Walson. Although I will not reveal everything and when I don't i will explain why as best I can, thanks.

Hi Gridkeeper!

Where the hell were you when Hurritt was having a fit?

So, what's the basic optics you are using?

[Gridkeeper]

I will answer all questions regarding Mr.Walson. Although I will not reveal everything and when I don't i will explain why as best I can, thanks.

Hi Gridkeeper!

Where the hell were you when Hurritt was having a fit?

So, what's the basic optics you are using?

HI, I still haven't read everything yet as I have gone back to work although I will be free this weekend. 12" meade with sony camcorder with the lens removed. Start filming the moon to test your scope out but you really need to take the lens out of the cam and don't use anything recommended by an astronomy shop and you'll see something like this.

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Looking at the starships is near impossible or everyone would be doing it, i'll explain why at the weekend.