So are you going to call the Astronauts liars?

[Daft Ada]

I would start with Edgar Mitchell and then Gordon Cooper :cool:

http://recognizereality.com/ufos-aliens/astronauts-came-forth-with-the-truth-so-why-are-we-still-watching-the-skies

[phillipbbg]

Its interesting the thought of releasing UFO truth 60 years ago was stopped because of the worry over the reaction by the public...... so what has changed? They are still sitting on their hands trying to decide what the reaction would be.... try asking someone you know and make it believable look at their eyes..... I did this the other day by softening it and saying what if it really really is true what would you do.... the flash of fear was obvious and the uncertainty....

A lot of our society have enough trouble coping with their football team getting knocked out of a comp let along taking a giant leap into reality........I think it has to come and to be honest the reaction may be good , may be bad or something in-between...... the key to acceptance will be a carrot....

[Corncrake]

From the reaction of some of my friends and acquaintances it is clear to me that there are many people out there who do not want to know the truth. Even when I quote credible witnesses such as these astronauts at best they look blank or at worst relate the Buzz Aldrin alcoholism rumours. In short, having been brought up on a diet of government deceit and frightening science fiction movies, they are scared.

[Daft Ada]

I agree with both of you, I explained some of the facts very gently to a woman my wife works with, and showed her some vids and pictures to back it up and I was shocked at her reaction, as you said, you could see the fear and panic in her eyes, and she just flatly refused to believe it despite the facts. A classic case of sticking your head in the sand.
That's why we are getting all this drip, drip, drip of UFO and Alien stuff on the TV, they are trying to get everyone comfortable with it. Look at the film Paul, if that's not a classic example of "Aliens can be our friends" I don't know what is. They have got to do it though because the truth is imminent

[ghostrider]

People don't want to know about life elsewhere, they don't want to leave the comfort zone. that out weighs those of us who want truth of ET's to be released as norm. funny they'll show us dinosaurs, unicorns, cavemen, the whole evolution thing but the evolving stops with man, supposed to start as cavemen, arrive at today, but never keep going and end up ET with mental powers and knowledge of the universe and spiritual things..

[Snoweagle]

Of course astronauts are going to lie or withhold the truth from the public, they have signed an official secret contract. Anything that is disclosed is usually secretly authorised, though rare. In fact Bill and Kerrys work, that has brought many of us here, are with people on the periphery of actual secrets and subject to the usual mocking and discreditation. So do not hold your breath when a Government worker says that have secrets to reveal, they are likely to be dead or missing very soon.

Should there be some form of disclosure soon, then do your research and investigate. Do not throw "told you so" parties at the first bleating media report that "appears" to confirm something new. The NWO has the internet as its playground and we are being moulded as children on the carousel.

For goodness sake, we cannot extract truth from any agency regarding prospective threats from the cosmos, so what makes any of you think that any individual is going to break ranks and sacrifice their place in the bunker.

[Daft Ada]

Errrr did you actually watch the videos? because what you are saying makes no sense

[New Dawn]

Its a shame, but most 'so-called adults' can't deal with the idea of there being life from another planet, so even when hearing it from the horses mouth, they will stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la la', or listen and then crack jokes while you're trying to disucss it. That has happened to me a few times over the years, and its really frustrating. They'd rather believe in God, and it seems that if they believe in God, they can't believe on ET life as well. I don't get it myself.

There is definitely life out there in an infinite universe - its the only possible answer, and the sooner the children on this planet choose to grow up, the sooner this world will transform. These people hold us all back. The best thing you can do is discuss it when you feel like talking about it, and to take the knocks you receive for your beliefs - after all, its ok for people to spout all kinds of crap about God whilst expecting you to listen.

Eventually, they'll have to believe the astronauts, don't worry cos the truth is coming - I'm sure of that :)

[DoubleHelix]

If one were to confront an astronaut then they would want to make sure that their facts are sound and that they do so with a respectable approach.

This is a perfect example of how not to approach an astronaut..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=player_embedded

[New Dawn]

Nice shot Buzz! Shouldn't have called him a coward. If Buzz is holding back some truths its probably to protect his family.

[Lazlo]

Most people don't really want to KNOW anything. They want to BELIEVE what is comfortable for them.

[Operator]

Most people don't really want to KNOW anything. They want to BELIEVE what is comfortable for them.

True, but let's not exclude ourselves ... lots of us here like one version of the truth. Once they believe that one
to be true they stop looking further. I often detect myself defending a certain version first before letting the other
version properly sink in. Sort of (bad) human nature ... :o

[KosmicKat]

I would start with Edgar Mitchell and then Gordon Cooper :cool:

http://recognizereality.com/ufos-aliens/astronauts-came-forth-with-the-truth-so-why-are-we-still-watching-the-skies

Do you mean that you don't believe them? or that other people should?

[Lazlo]

Most people don't really want to KNOW anything. They want to BELIEVE what is comfortable for them.

True, but let's not exclude ourselves ... lots of us here like one version of the truth. Once they believe that one
to be true they stop looking further. I often detect myself defending a certain version first before letting the other
version properly sink in. Sort of (bad) human nature ... :o

Agreed, and excellent point. My signature about the koolaid is meant as a reminder (for both myself and others) to always think critically.

[Maia Gabrial]

I say tell people everything....
The sooner they know and deal with it; the sooner they accept it and get over it. Sheesh! Give them a chance to prove that....
They won't die from knowing the truth. Sure they'll be shocked for a bit, but then they'll change for the better.... Haven't we gone through the same? (Except we've been mocked and ridiculed).

[13th Warrior]

If one were to confront an astronaut then they would want to make sure that their facts are sound and that they do so with a respectable approach.

This is a perfect example of how not to approach an astronaut..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=player_embedded


What a jack wagon this Bart fellow is...mess with the bull you get the horns.

[noprophet]

oTF5CR_IWlA

oops!

If you have an understanding of associative patterns you know this wasn't a mix/up. Read Forgetting of Proper Names by Freud. ^^

[Maia Gabrial]

Oh man, Noprophet,
I just caught Cernan's slip: Buzz wants "to go back to MARS"!!! Whoa, was that a biggie Freudian slip or what? They were talking about the MOON.... Good one, man!
:gossip:

[Fred Steeves]

If one were to confront an astronaut then they would want to make sure that their facts are sound and that they do so with a respectable approach.

This is a perfect example of how not to approach an astronaut..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=player_embedded

I would have decked that jackass too...Guilty or not, good for old Buzz on that bulls eye!!!

Great point DoubleHelix.

Cheers,
Fred

[Strat]

Thanks for the link. That Edgar Mitchell interview is a must listen.

[Maia Gabrial]

Daft Ada,
I think it's like a bandaid. You can pull it off slowly, yanking hair and skin and make the suffering last longer. Or rip it off quickly....
IMO people will probably deny everything even after they see the truth for themselves.... See what kind of dilemna the know-it-alls have created? Sparing people from the glorious truth about the universe is just plain mean....
Yeah, I'm calling them liars because withholding the truth is just as bad as a lie....

[Daft Ada]

I would start with Edgar Mitchell and then Gordon Cooper :cool:

http://recognizereality.com/ufos-aliens/astronauts-came-forth-with-the-truth-so-why-are-we-still-watching-the-skies

Do you mean that you don't believe them? or that other people should?

Hi Cozi. Sorry, I thought that was obvious, I believe them completely, if I say " So are you calling them a liar" it means I'm not.

[Daft Ada]

Daft Ada,
I think it's like a bandaid. You can pull it off slowly, yanking hair and skin and make the suffering last longer. Or rip it off quickly....
IMO people will probably deny everything even after they see the truth for themselves.... See what kind of dilemna the know-it-alls have created? Sparing people from the glorious truth about the universe is just plain mean....
Yeah, I'm calling them liars because withholding the truth is just as bad as a lie....Once again I am having to say have you actually watched the video's? They are not holding back the truth, the exact opposite, they are stating loud and clear that they have seen UFO's and that they exist, hence the statement "Are you going to call them a liar?" I'm certainly not, they all say they exist, therefore they exist.
Perhaps I should have made the post less cryptic.

[kathymarie]

Thank you for this thread, Daft Ada....I agree with you...it's another example of "normalcy bias".....I experience it with my family, especially my very intelligent, very religious husband every day. What has not happened in their perception before could not possibly be happening now. I visited my 80+ year old parents yesterday and tried to calmly discuss Elenin, etc....with them....and the more I talked the more upset my mother became. I finally just gave her a hug and kiss and told her not to worry....the relief I saw in her face was immediate. Of course it made for a restless night for me.


I agree with both of you, I explained some of the facts very gently to a woman my wife works with, and showed her some vids and pictures to back it up and I was shocked at her reaction, as you said, you could see the fear and panic in her eyes, and she just flatly refused to believe it despite the facts. A classic case of sticking your head in the sand.
That's why we are getting all this drip, drip, drip of UFO and Alien stuff on the TV, they are trying to get everyone comfortable with it. Look at the film Paul, if that's not a classic example of "Aliens can be our friends" I don't know what is. They have got to do it though because the truth is imminent

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm thinking that so many lies are floating around that it's hard to tell what's the truth anymore; or what's part of the misinformation agendas.... Are they lying now? Before, they were all denying it. Did they go to the moon or not? Are there bases there? Did we go to Mars? Is there life out in the universe or not? So many questions that they've mislead us on. We won't know the whole truth until the time is right....But whose time? Is time running out us and they have NO CHOICE but to fess up to their lies?
I'M calling them liars because of all that's been denied or withheld from us before now. Disclosure is a problem for them because it means that they'll have to answer for their duplicities....I imagine that none of them want to be held accountable....

[Tane Mahuta]

They are not lying(I believe). They are only saying what they are allowed to say.

Being NASA...they are sworn to secrecy!

The Truth will reveal itself soon....

TM

[kathymarie]

How telling are Neil Armstrong's words about "removing truth's protective layers". The arrogance of tptb...deciding whether or not we can handle the truth. I believe they think not of us but what is in their interests of retaining control to be the deciding factor in how much truth reaches us. Great posts...all

[Guest]

I really like the statement Neil Armstrong makes,

"remove Truths many protective layers".

Nora