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Grizzom

10th June 2010, 07:46

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The Demise of Ufology.
Written Friday, June 04, 2010 by Mr. Rutkowski at Ufology Research

I caused a bit of a stir several months ago when I called UFO case investigation a lost art. I'll go further this time: ufology looks like it's near death.

The bad news is: I'm an optimist.

I was having a conversation with Brian Savage recently, and he made the observation that the UFO phenomenon has been derailed. He was formerly with the Alberta UFO Study Group, an earlier incarnation that produced in-depth investigation reports and scoured government documents for historical Alberta cases. Brian's comment was in reference to the many popularized UFO-related developments over the past 20 years which have destroyed the legitimacy of serious UFO research.

Examples of these derailments include the alien autopsy film, Lazar's Element 115, the strawberry ice cream nonsense, Greer's telepathic vectoring of UFOs, crop circles, exopolitics, Nibiru, and the resurgence of the contactee phenomenon. These and others have served to draw public and popular attention away from serious UFO case investigations and into the realm of wild arm-waving speculation and wide-eyed fanaticism.

It's too bad; it really looked like there was something developing there, for a while.

UFO cases themselves have radically shifted characteristics. Things seemed so simple when Hynek formulated his Close Encounter classifications: CE1 was a sighting at close range; CE2 was a trace case; and CE3 involved seeing occupants. There was no CE4 or CE5, as adopted by some ufologists now, reflecting abductions and contactee incidents. Only three categories, nicely defined and delineated.

The CE2s went extinct first. Ted Philips had several thousand physical trace cases documented by the time crop circles arrived on the scene. Then - poof! No more CE2s. People stopped seeing UFOs landing and taking off; aliens stopped landing their scout craft and leaving behind scorched patches and tripod marks in fields. Instead, mysterious circles (and later, patterns) appeared, almost always without accompanying UFO sightings, and it was assumed that the aliens were using some kind of "rotating vortex" to power their ships.

Then the CE3s went AWOL. No more sightings of landed UFOs where entities were seen exiting and re-entering their crafts. Instead, abductions ballooned in number, eventually overtaking classic CE3s. Really, have you heard of a decent CE3 case recently? No bedroom visitations, no alien faces in windows, no telepathic instructions about saving the human race. Just a simple CE3 observation. No? No.

Even CE1s are mostly gone now, too. Instead, we have YouTube videos of "mysterious orbs" and "Galactic Lightships" seeming to dance all over the pace because the witness couldn't hold the video camera steady. On the other hand, we have goofballs with too much time on their hands using video toasters to create obvious hoaxed UFO videos that experienced UFO investigators can tell are not worth bothering with but go viral anyway, getting retweeted and reblogged everywhere by UFO fans.

But a well-witnessed, well-investigated CE1 case? Rarer than a straight-talking politician or oil executive. Sure, if you look at popular UFO websites that list UFO reports, there are dozens and dozens from all over the world, posted by witnesses. But follow-up to get additional details to make an evaluation, such as direction of movement, where the UFO was in the sky compared with other things, and even an accurate time? Forget it. Onsite investigation? Impossible. Referral to one of the few reliable UFO investigators who lives nearby the witness, to allow proper investigation? Can't, sorry; privacy of witnesses is guaranteed.

So what we have in ufology today is the maintaining of a high number of UFO sighting reports, but a decrease on information content of the cases. Public attention surges when UFO stories in the news go viral, but critical thinking goes out the window.

Part of this is because no one person is viewed as someone who can speak for ufology today. Following the death of Allen Hynek, no one was easily identifiable as someone to take his mantle. (Not even Philip Mantle.) Not Stan Friedman, not Jerome Clark, Mark Rodeghier, not Jenny Randles, not Kevin Randle, not Bill Birnes, not any other of the dozen or so who might (or might not) fit the bill.

(Similarly, who speaks for debunkery? After Phil Klass passed away, is it now Phil Plait? James Oberg? James Randi? Bill Nye? Even Larry King can't decide who is an authority and whom to have on as guests to debate UFOs.)

Poor MUFON and CUFOS, the few remaining doggedly determined UFO groups. They're hanging on, with declining revenue, losing staff and trying desperately to carry on with serious UFO study, when UFO fans have not the slightest interest in that.

Ufology is greatly fractured. With thousands of UFO-related web pages, everyone (and anyone) can be an expert. Anyone can tell you the "REAL Truth" about the aliens' presence on Earth and their nefarious dealings with the government and how Obama is an alien and why I've been chosen as their emissary and why alien hybrids have pale skin and why aliens will arrive in 2012 and where the underwater alien bases are in the Gulf of Mexico and why the hundreds of orbs in my photograph are mental images of aliens and not dust particles and why some UFO craft disguise themselves as airplanes and why chemtrails are not just contrails and why this blog is passing through into another dimension....

http://uforum.blogspot.com/2010/06/demise-of-ufology.html

I spotted this and figured it was worth posting.

I think it's part controlled opposition and part new-age circus.

Jim Marrs is the only guy I trust anymore and he even admits he fell for BS artist like Jordan Maxwell himself.

I was a firm believer in ufo's and abductions but lately Ive been feeling like it may all be BS :confused:

steve_a

10th June 2010, 09:25

Hi Grizzom,

I think you could be right in thinking that Ufology (as it was known) is dying. Of course it is, because the majority of people accept that other life forms exist away from our planet. Once that belief is held, there is no more scandal, conspiracy to hide... etc.

Even recent news articles about life forms being presumed on one of Saturns' moons, or objects on Mars are not drawing in the crowds any more. This sort of report makes the main stream media just as the Afghan war does.

This is a good thing as the charlatans in the past exploiting people now have a very little platform to speak on. It is now becoming more difficult to shock people about ETs. These days funny lights in the night sky just don't cut it anymore. People want more solid evidence to justify the value of a sighting. Of course with superior video and photo editing available, the real deal has to be even more real if you understand what I'm trying to say. It could very well be that a public landing will be the only shock and awe available these days.

However, we shouldn't disregard older information, as for the uninitiated it's always a good place to start instead of entering into the 'modern' information cold turkey.

Best regards,

Steve

greybeard

10th June 2010, 10:00

Strat

10th June 2010, 20:50

You're preaching to the choir Grizzom. I don't try to convince people whether aliens exist or not, I believe they do. Classic cases with crappy government explanations such as the DC lights or the Phoenix lights are pretty weird. I don't jump to the alien conclusion in those cases, but I'm sure you guys are aware of the evidence that starts stacking up when one goes down that road.

Another problem is there are the people that believe absolutely everything they see and hear if it is alien/conspiracy related. I have a friend like this and he considers himself the most open minded person because he believes these things, in fact he's the most closed minded person I know.

He thinks this video is damning evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goYblEQQwxc) and thinks that if someone considers it to be fake then they're ignorant. Also, when "The Fourth Kind" came out, he went through the movie frame by frame, claiming that as proof that aliens are real. When he talks to people about current events, he sometimes ignores other peoples opinions if they don't acknowledge conspiracy. Not only is that rude, but it immediately turns people off to alternative theories for the next time they hear about it. That's not good that stops the learning process which is borderline blasphemous in my book.

Humble Janitor

10th June 2010, 20:58

I feel that Ufology is still legitimately needed because of hoaxer videos and other stories being passed off as "truth". The problem is that instead of the folks who've been studying Ufology for years as the skeptics, we have internet forums full of self-proclaimed "skeptics" and "debunkers" that without knowing it, could be dismissing legitimate claims because they think that belonging to said forum makes them an expert.

There's still room for the legitimate research. Perhaps the folks behind it need to find another way to fund their research or use the internet to recruit people who are serious about searching for the truth and willing to learn from those who've studied for years?

3(C)+me

28th June 2010, 05:06

Just thought I would muddy the waters a bit more...from..
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave
Digitized by knowledgefiles.com 162
ALIEN PROGRAMMING SCRIPTS
There are numerous scripts for the Alien programming. Recent novels
and Hollywood movies provide a non-ending pool of programming
resources for the Programmers. Visual reality headgear and other hightech
methods can easily be incorporated into an alien abduction
theme. The following are samples of some of the people who the
author Fritz has spent time with, who on one level knew they needed
help, but didn t know just what they felt uneasy about.
PERSON 1. Had been abducted by aliens since she was a small child.
Different types of aliens took her. Her mother worked for the CIA at
Area 51. Her mother was abusive to her. One of her best friends is a
Monarch slave. When the aliens come a bright light appears and then
they abduct her. The aliens she works with the most look exactly like
people, and in their handwriting show severe abuse. These benevolent
aliens have taken her fetusus several times. She has time-travelled to
their planet. She is dissociative. The government authorities are
constantly monitoring and tracking her, and have made an effort to
besmudge her record, so that it appears like she is looney tunes. This is
the type of cases that this book s co-author has spent time working
with. Doesn t this sound more like human mind-control than real aliens?
PERSON 2. This person hears aliens within his head (which when
described sounds like a case of MPD (DID). The aliens would take him
and force him to have homosexual activities even though he didn t
want to participate. But that was O.K. to him, because they were a
superior race and if these benevolent aliens which are so far
advanced beyond us, want to have sex with him, that is their
perogative. This person has a lot of depression. This person wonders
why the authorities seem to keep track of him.
PERSON 3. This person worked at Area 51. Has a photographic memory
throughout his entire MPD system. He realizes that he is MPD. His best
friend claims to be an alien, a god of sorts, and is known by both this
person & Fritz to be part of Naval Intelligence. This best friend acts more
like a handler than an alien, and this Area 51 worker gives his best
friend total alligiance. This man has all kinds of alien type stories, which
sound in many cases like programming. This person admits that his
family is Illuminati, and the front alters say he has watched Illuminati
rituals as an adult, but hasn t participated . He shows signs of severe
abuse. He is afraid to talk about trauma-based mind-control, but loves
to talk about aliens. In fact, all three of the persons discussed on this
page shied away from talking about Monarch mind-control, as if it
were something not important, but they all love to talk about aliens.
And the list of interesting people like this could go on. When
Mindcontrolled slaves who have alien programming are being abducted by
the intelligence agencies for their use and for programming here are
some of the details of how and what occurs: A bright light is shined into
their house. They have been hypnotically conditioned to view this light
as a Flying Saucer, whether it is a helicopter or something else. As the
NWO does have Flying Saucers, sometimes the real thing is used. Men
in Black (just like in SRA cases) are often associated with the
abductions. And the slaves frequently speak about "shadows in the
mind." The slaves are taken to rooms where examining tables with
white sheets and X-ray machines, Headgear and medical equipment is
in place. (The alien equipment has gotten more high-tech over the last
40 years. The aliens wear suits that are full of occult symbology. The
people are restrained with clamps and electrical shock and energy is
used on them. They are told that they are receiving information. They
are given tracking implants and other implants. All of the 3 above
persons, receive information from the aliens regularly. Almost all of the
elements of Monarch trauma-based mind-control appear in these
abduction accounts, especially in the psychological features of the
victim. The victims of alien abduction programming feel suicidal after
they talk too much. They have headaches, sleep difficulties,
nightmares, obsessive thoughts, a fear of hypnosis, trapped feelings,
and paranoia. During their abductions the aliens use drugs, thought
transfers, and painful medical procedures. The aliens use language
that parallels the messages given to SRA (Satanic Ritual victims) victims, just change the
language from Satan is in charge to the Aliens are in charge . Cattle
mutilations where the blood has been drain are associated with
abductions. There is documented accounts where cattle mutilations
have been connected to Satanic cults using helicopters. The victims of
aliens are forced to be impregnated and then the fetus is repeatedly
taken. The aliens are repeatedly telling these victims that a holocaust
is soon to come. Another strange phenomena, that others and this
author have noticed is that these victims of alien abduction seen to
know each other, much in the same way that victims of Illuminati
mindcontrol seem to know each other. And the aliens seem to know
everything about the victims. The victims have amnesia of their
abductions. The memories of their abductions are hidden in altered
states of consciousness, that hypnosis sometimes can pull up. Most
victims are afraid of hypnosis or can t be hypnotized (they have been
hypnotized not to allow anyone else to hypnotize them.)
To give credit where due, Bowart s Operation Mind Control Researcher’s
Notice how the controlled media always link aliens with Flying Saucers
and UFOs? This is an entire book in itself, however, the bottom line is
that at least most (if not all) of the alien abductions are simply part of
the NWO s mind-control. It is obvious that for various reasons (including
the goals set down in the secret Iron Mountain government report), the
government (including cooperating agencies like NASA) decided to
use an alien abduction theme rather than a Satanic Ritual Abuse
theme to their mind-control programming. The major differences in the
programming methodology is that the blood rituals of the SRA are no
longer used. The reason why blood rituals are no longer needed is that
the high-tech harmonic machines (which implant thoughts-see chap.
6) and other high-tech methods eliminate the need for the blood
traumas. The victims of alien abductions are taken at random, where
the Illuminati victims are abducted more frequently around ritual dates.
The person who believes in UFOs and aliens is going to receive the
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave
Digitized by knowledgefiles.com 164
same type of treatment as those who believe in Satanic Ritual Abuse.
The legal system and society at large are conditioned to treat them as
nuts. This protects their abusers. An Illuminati hierarchy member
described their magic goal of pursuing a spiritual path through the
finer frequencies of outer time. The alien programming is one way to
experience this.

Majorion

29th June 2010, 17:50

However, we shouldn't disregard older information ...
That's right Steve, and what does that tell us about the "newer" information? This brings to mind Roswell, a case that has been battered and beaten to death over and over again, although the evidence hasn't changed, today you will still find people coming up with new explanations, new theories. Right now ufology is a game of sorts, now fully integrated with other topics of a conspiratorial undertone. Unfortunately it hasn't been left alone to explore ... now its ufo's & mind control, ufo's & abductions, ufo's & time travel, ufo's & underground bases, ufo's & atlantis, remote viewing ufo's, ufo's & presidents, 2012, and so on.

Atlas

7th September 2016, 06:52

Can you spot the UFO in this image:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/CoA_-_Bruntal_Castle.jpg

giovonni

7th September 2016, 07:21

that crest is from the Teutonic Knights who were part of the Holy Crusades during the 12 century
called The Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Mary in Jerusalem ... a military order.

i would image you are referring to the base (sphere) of the gold crucifix above the crest ...
that being the entire crown.

here's another represented emblem crest ...

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCfzGiOpbuo6pJzuV12OlWPFXKtwmA-4kKTCUpLxA6Rq2vY-qYNg

Jesus - Man, God, Alien

you have to also remember i was a Franciscan of the Holylands ... giggle :)

Atlas

7th September 2016, 07:33

The sphere, yes.

The Order of Brothers [...]
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood Is Out (source (http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/sheppards-video-game-pie-assassins-creed-brotherhood-is-out))
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The Brotherhood of the Bell UFO
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Cidersomerset

7th September 2016, 11:23

Funnily enough I have contradictory views on the state of Ufology,
I mentioned on a recent thread

I am not a tech expert with photo analysts etc , that's why I prefer the
old cases for now and the personal testimonies of witness's that can
be unreliable at times for many reasons. Though the children at Ariel
seem completely genuine imo.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93102-Two-ETs-at-5-feet-distance-in-Ruwa-Zimbabwe-1994&p=1095855&viewfull=1#post1095855

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I am active on several UFO threads in the last few days and mojo and
others are always putting up threads of vids to look at, so with all the
researchers and the web I feel its a vibrant subject....

On the other hand...LOL this brings , hoaxers , pranksters , dis info agents,
trolls and plenty of armchair experts/critics . The Current Bill Tomkinson thread
show many of these traits yet its intriguing.

The other problem is we tend to go round in circles and I don't
mean the 'crop' kind. But on the whole all we can do is keep
researching , I believe UFO's real....

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/49/3b/60/493b60504fa6dc86e4d1df28544db1e9.jpg

Or closer to home......

Cidersomerset

7th September 2016, 11:49

It does reminds me of the round brim hat often seen in movies depicting
particularly on Christian priests etc...Whether depicting a UFO ?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCfzGiOpbuo6pJzuV12OlWPFXKtwmA-4kKTCUpLxA6Rq2vY-qYNg

http://www.disfracesbacanal.es/fotos/FOTOS_WEB_BACANAL/FYCAR/NOVEDADES/SOMBRERO_DE_CURA_DE_FIELTRO.JPG

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/5c5df1ec06664f8ca42c2a4b45773ee3/epa01743441-wearing-a-bright-wide-brimmed-red-hat-pope-benedict-xvi-fnam2b.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/36/6c/c1/366cc1911855628b92300061ab4c55c0.jpg

giovonni

7th September 2016, 18:55

Cidersomerset

No one said it was not a papal hat, the order emblem is a dark (hat) order created by the papacy - during the crusades - That's what Atlas and I are referring to with all this.

AutumnW

7th September 2016, 19:08

Perhaps the mission of the dominant alien species, is nearing completion.

Humans are now approaching (what they think is) singularity with the machine. We could easily lose control of our dominant position, with regards artificial intelligence-- and be used as a host species, where we support the vast networks of solid state intelligence here on Earth, that is integrated into the matrix of artificial intelligence on other planets and galaxies.

We are looking up down and sideways for the medium we are increasingly steeped in. We go deeper and deeper.

Read articles about John Lily and solid state intelligence. Also, the earth coincidence control organization, 'Ecco,' in conjunction with John Lily.

Cidersomerset

7th September 2016, 19:52

giovonni

7th September 2016, 20:19

No one said it was not a papal hat, the order emblem is a dark (hat) order
created by the papacy - during the crusades - That's what Atlas and I are referring
to with all this.

I was only guessing , I did not know if it represents a hat , just that it reminded
me of them so it was not that much of a stretch if that's what it is.

Which in turn could represent the shape of a Saucer , Which might be a stretch ?

No problem just want to be clear on all this ,,,

And actually the gold dome (with the inserted crucifix) is a representative of this ...

The Temple Mount in Jerusalem

http://s3.amazonaws.com/zweb-s3.uploads/visiontv/2012/05/TempleMount_DomeoftheRock.jpg

Of course there's much more, but the Jesus/Alien connection is most definitely embedded within history ...

The Hitler's Nazi Bell might come to mine ... :)