View Full Version : Connection between Lillith and Merduk/Tiamat?
Catsquotl
23rd August 2011, 17:18
Hi,
Ehm maybe someone can help me with this. I received an intuitive reading the other day.
One of the comments was
The ways of olde are here for you but by embracing the Divine Feminine. Something about the Mark of Lilly
This stuck with me, but I was not able to find any reverence to the Mark of Lilly anywhere.. So I started opening up to insight. The way I do that is just let my mind wander/ Make seemingly random connections and somewhere along the lines a few idea's seem to add up and stick.
No bright lights, channeled beings or feelings of utter joy to tell me whether I am on the right track or not just an idea that seems to stick/resonate .
So what I came up with was that the Mark of Lilly was a reverence to The Mark of Lillith. So checking that i read up a bit on Lillith and found she is a well known "dark" deity/demon these days. Now that did not resonate so I went on another mind wandering and the asteroid belt popped in my head.
As I listened to the hunderthmonkeyradio interview with George Kavassalis earlier today I wondered about Merduk/Tiamat. Could Lillith be the Planetary consciousness of Tiamat? If so embracing The Divine Feminine has a layer to it I was unaware of until now..
What do you think?
With Love,
Eelco
Darla Ken Pearce
23rd August 2011, 17:35
Since we are just now coming up and out of duality ~ those old good and evil labels and tags don't follow ~ thanks goodness! Our horizons have expanded and we are evolving into a much greater whole vista that embraces all the colors of the rainbow without making distinctions of only black or white, angels and demons, and it's one that just accepts the whole spectrum that is open and out there.
We can choose what we wish but must learn and allow ourselves to honor and cherish all things, believe in all things and not necessarily know or care about these other more limited views, we were forced to hold while in duality. Our vista has become unlimited, and completely without those old and tired barriers of thought and manifestation. So don't be put off by tags and labels that no longer apply and just go right into happiness and bliss and staying in tune with whatever finds resonance in your own heart. It's a wonderful way to enter into the New Golden Age with grace, passion, and just marvel at all the new things that are open to us now ~ that are truly upon us now, if we will allow it ; ) xoxoxox
Lord Sidious
24th August 2011, 04:37
You must know both sides of the story, if you are to gain wisdom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhM3dJqx6-s&feature=related
shadowstalker
24th August 2011, 04:56
In the case of religious history anything marked as demonic or evil was usually in essence, good. The church and man had the "BRIGHT" idea of taking control of the symbolism and the like so they could control all.
Lillith was supposedly the first created female before Eve, but then she wanted to be considered equal and supposedly Adam didn't like that, so he had her banished, she apparently didn't like that and invoked the "TRUE Name" of "God" and then new the universe. Apparently "God" didn't like that and cursed her to an eternity of supposed loneliness. She then was supposed to have from then on branded a demon who would eat newborn babies, hence the so called "LULLABY" that woman would sing to there newborns to keep lillith away, that and something on there door.
I can honestly say I haven't a clue about the real lillith.
Tiamat has also been changed by the church and man into a supposed demotic creator of sorts.
So many stories TBTB make up to confuse us and make us afraid.
I remember Tiamat from a past life event, yes it was a planet I watched it blow up from when I was living on Mars eons ago. yes it is the asteroid belt past Mars. it blew up way before the Annunaki came into play.
modwiz
24th August 2011, 04:57
The lily is a symbol for the divine feminine and grail women in particular. Lawrence Gardener had a fair amount to say on this subject/symbol. The lily is very much speaking of the imagery of a woman's genitalia. Stargazer lilies have a particularly deep scent to them.
The divine feminine will be useless without the divine masculine to partner with. We have been dealing with Roger Ramjet and Dirk the Dagger mentalities for millenia now and the Silly Lilly's they demand as women and have been too successful at obtaining. With men running the world it will have to be their move to grow up and look for their divine counterpart..........yesterday!
Just my forest-dwelling opinion.
Yes, Lily and Lillith are related. The patriarchal sociopaths turned any empowered woman into a demon. The Grail Queens were particularly dangerous to them, and their plans, and Lillith was one of them.
Ria
24th August 2011, 05:43
'Fleur de lie ' is another thing to look at, it is used on much regale-liar, emblem for Prince Charles.[why is he using it?]
Catsquotl
24th August 2011, 06:16
Thank you so much for hinting to the various directions. So far I have been pointed to the Mark of lily.
A rather popular brandmark in the old days for runaway slaves, murderers and other assorted enemies of the state.
And I love this bit about Lillith
Lilith is also present; if only as an Archetype within every male and female, a primal, instinctive feminine sexuality. Lilith’s type is the free and unrestrained animating, pulsating, transforming sexuality that evokes the original orgiastic aspect of The Great Goddess. She is that part for which the masculine both fears and longs for -- the woman who runs with the wolves! Lilith is the woman who refuses to nurture men, and thereby threatens their survival.
As the Goddess of the Dark Moon, Lilith “ruthlessly destroys all that is not our true individuality or appropriate life path. She will not lead us to our goal by revealing what it is, but rather by eliminating everything that it is not. The black aspect of Lilith closes all the wrong doors that face us.” [1]
“The black Lilith in us will accept nothing less than our true individuality, not in the sense of separateness, but in the sense of who we intrinsically are. When we are secure in acknowledging and expressing our true self, we do not falsify ourselves in order to be accepted by others.” “Consensus does not require the kind of compromise that pressures us to give up our essential values while mediating with another person.” [1]
In all respects, Lilith’s charging to the forefront during the Precessional Cycle’s Dark of the Moon, is the good news. It’s also a slight taste of what is to arrive with the ultimate Return of the Goddess in the very near future. Say, maybe, around 2012 A.D..
Are you ready?
Also Tiamat was a sumarian goddes/demon way older than enki. Possibly from a matriarchal religious system that was completely obliterated when we men thought we knew better.
My thoughts. Well if we see the masculine (adam) as the sun, the feminine (eve) as mother earth. I do believe a role was there for Tiamat as Lillith.
Mercury standing in the way of divine union due to to much thinking.
Venus due to jealousy and friskyness.
Mars trying to protect us as the warrior archetype.
And then Tiamat/Lillith as our Amazone guardians maybe??
With Love
Eelco
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