White House Insider (Ulsterman): The Obama Plan

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White House Insider: The Obama Plan – Part One

http://s3.amazonaws.com/triond/avatars/2009/08/11/230557_a.jpg Published by Ulsterman on August 12, 2011 in Politics



"The president actually considered quitting. He really did. But now he’s going on the attack. He wants to give a big F-You to White America-that’s actually one of his primary motivations. You think the race card has been played up before? Just wait. 2012 is gonna be the most brutal political cycle we have ever witnessed. Ever."

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Author’s Note: This interview is the first face to face sit down in months with our longtime D.C. political operative we have come to simply call “Insider”. They offer up a unique perspective and insight based upon their decades-long experience as a D.C. insider working within the highest levels of government – including helping to elect Barack Obama in 2008. Here now are the words of Insider, unedited and published in their entirety per their request. This is part one of the interview.

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Ulsterman: It’s been a while hasn’t it? Face to face that is.

Insider: Yes it has. Been busy. Tired. Loving it though. I really do love this. All of this. Gonna miss it. And we have made so much progress. Incredible progress.

Ulsterman: How so? Eric Holder remains at the DOJ. Barack Obama remains president.

Insider: Really? That’s how you put it to me? Holder is at the DOJ – for now. For now, right? Open your eyes. Holder is getting absolutely slammed at every turn. We got people in Congress calling for full investigations now. Calling for Holder to step down. Calling for ****ing justice! You didn’t see that last year. You didn’t see that before we started all of this. Something like that doesn’t happen in days or weeks, or even a month or two. It takes ****ing time. Who else pointed to the DOJ and said THERE IS THE SCANDAL. Who else? Nobody but me. I gave you that. On a ****ing platter I gave you that. So don’t come here now on my invite and point at me and say there hasn’t been any progress. ERIC HOLDER IS GOING DOWN. Ok? It’s happening. Right before our ****ing eyes. And like I’ve always told you, Holder is the Obama firewall. Holder is the stop-gap to everything. Every ****ing thing. You head up the DOJ you can pretty much stamp out 99% of anything coming at a president. Do you understand that? I know—

Ulsterman:(Interrupts) …I understand what you’ve told me. You were right on about the DOJ. I’ll give you that, deservedly so. And you’re also right, at least from what I can recall, that nobody was honing in on a DOJ scandal before you were. And that’s where we are at now – a significant DOJ scandal. But after months of the scandal first breaking, Eric Holder remains the Attorney General. And the Gunrunner story seems stalled. And I worry it’s gonna go away. Just like the New Black Panther case did.

Insider: First off…the Black Panther thing…(long pause) We, I…I ****ed that up. Not just me, but I am to blame for that in part. We showed our hand way too early…we got caught flat footed on it. That case had the potential to be much bigger. We ****ed it up. The launch was all wrong. Looking back – whataya gonna do? Spilled ****ing milk. But let me make this clear to you right now – Gunrunner is way bigger than the NBP scenario. Way bigger. It is an operation that has gone into full government cover up at the highest levels. THE HIGHEST LEVELS. You got that? I told you months ago that “we got them”. They ****ed up. They took the bait and ran with it. And they know it now. But you gotta understand here…you gotta realize, that once we reach a certain stage, we become almost totally dependent on certain people in certain positions of power to now take the ball and run with it. That is almost always the case. And if they drop the ball, if they back off, if they make a deal – it’s over. Done.

Ulsterman: Issa?

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Insider: Yeah, he’s certainly a very critical part of this. Initially he was among the most critical. To his credit he seems to have pushed this thing out there as best he can. But I remain cautious of his ultimate intent. Will he allow a secondary figure to take the fall? That could still happen. I haven’t heard that confirmed yet, which is a very good sign, but it could still happen. It’s beyond just Issa now though. Congress – all of Congress, is engaged on this Gunrunner thing, though under the radar where most the deals go down. There is some positioning, posturing, all the same ****ing bull**** these clowns do on this stuff, a deal here, a promise there, nod and wink, handshakes, threats, break-ups, it’s pretty incestuous on that hill you know? People have no ****ing clue. We’ve all been rode hard and put away wet at one time or another up there—

Ulsterman(interrupts) —Staying with Congressman Issa. Can you just say straight on if you believe he will follow through on bringing a special prosecutor to investigate Gunrunner? Just a simple yes or no on that please…

Insider: That kind of thing will take more than just Darrell Issa. Good news is, it’s forming right now. I’ve told you that already and you have no reason to doubt it. The negotiations are currently underway for a special prosecutor and the signs are looking very-very good on that, which is a huge development for all of this – for what we have been working toward. But let’s not get into more details on that just yet – I don’t intend to help **** this one up. Just rest assured it’s moving along, and at a much faster pace than I would have thought possible just a month ago.

Ulsterman: Let’s say Holder resigns and what you keep referring to as “Obama’s firewall” is removed. What then?

Insider: (Smiles) What then? Oh…I think you would be satisfied with the result.

Ulsterman: That’s too vague. What then? It makes sense to me that Eric Holder in his position as Attorney General has significant powers – almost unlimited powers it would seem, to protect Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and anyone else needed in order to keep President Obama in power. Even if Holder goes though, couldn’t they simply install someone else in his place to continue that protection?

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Insider: Finally you are asking the right questions! And that is EXACTLY what the Obama machine is already attempting to prepare for – Holder’s replacement. Issa and others are watching this stuff right now, with a strong assist from a certain Democrat senator. The problem is, there will be a gap between the protection Eric Holder provides now, and the protection his replacement could provide. Information can then be uncovered that is currently tucked away behind the cloak of the Obama Department of Justice. When Holder is on his way out, the truth is gonna move in. We just need that window of opportunity to make it happen. It’s gonna happen. Just give it a bit more time.

Ulsterman: And then back to Chicago?

Insider: Yes…Chicago. Maybe Hawaii too. (winks)

Ulsterman: You know, there was a time not so long ago where you mocked me for the Birther stuff. Now you keep hinting at something being there. Did you read the book? The Corsi book?

Insider: You keep sinkin’ your teeth into that leg don’t you? A goddamn rabid dog for the Birther ****. Look, I ain’t no expert investigator. That’s not my thing. But I do hear things from time to time. And I know for a fact Nancy Pelosi made mention of a file on the subject. You remember that? When she was heading out the door as Speaker. When her and Obama were not so ****ing simpatico? Before whatever deal she struck with him?

Ulsterman: Yes.

Insider: And the last time I sent you a message I mentioned that this Corsi had been brought up by somebody high up in the political food chain, right? That something seemed to be forming on that? Whatever is there it has people concerned. If he wanted to get their attention, it seems he got it. I would still recommend you don’t cozy up to it too close though. I will just say this about your Mr. Corsi…I don’t think he’s entirely right, but there’s a lot of chatter out there indicating he’s not entirely wrong either.

Ulsterman: You keep stringing me along on this thing. You once didn’t want to hear anything related to questions about Obama’s birth record and now you seem more willing to entertain the possibility. Why the change? What do you know?

Insider: Hell – I think I…I think I more than entertain the possibility. I have read some of the stuff you sent me. How much is true or not I can’t say. I really can’t. I have access to what-what some people are saying, or what they are worried about, or what they might be planning. And I have years of experience that helps me put one and two together to try and figure out what is coming down the political pike. And I have associates with access to their own information who agree with me that Barack Obama was a huge ****ing mistake for the party and for America. But I don’t have some super secret Obama file. If I did I would most likely already be dead. I don’t know if it’s about his place of birth or if it’s something else that those records could reveal, but what I do know is that Barack Obama is covering something up related to that stuff. The guy is hiding something there. I am sure of that. Everything points to that being the case. The stuff you send me…look, a lot of it I just trash. I admit that. I’ve looked over some of it though, and some of it sounds…possible. Maybe even probable. But I don’t have a hand in any of that. Getting Eric Holder out of the DOJ, defeating Barack Obama in 2012 – that’s my thing. If somebody else wants to prove Obama isn’t who he says he is – more power to them…and join the ****ing club.

Ulsterman: If your move to get Eric Holder to step down is not accomplished before the elections, do you think Obama can be defeated?

Insider: Absolutely. And that’s a big change from what I used to say to you isn’t it? I told you and told you Democrats were disgusted over Obama. You remember that? Nobody else was saying that. And now look at what is being reported - Democrats disgusted over Obama. Whispers of Hillary heading out the door. A push to have her run against Obama – something that sadly I have been told she won’t do. More whispers of some other Democrat challenging the president. That information I sent you about the debt ceiling…Obama walking out and threatening Democrats. Threatening to ****ing veto Democrats! You messaged me saying I got it wrong. That it was the Republicans he walked out on…right? That’s what you said – that I got it wrong.

Ulsterman: Yes, but in my defense, that is what was reported. That Obama walked out on the Republicans not the Democrats. There was no mention of him walking out on the Democrats, so it did seem—

Insider: (Interrupts) —Seemed? Do you think? Do you think the media wanted to portray the Democrats as clawing out their own eyes? Hell no! If I give you something that detailed you take it to the ****ing bank. Got it? President Obama walked out on the Democrats. He threatened to veto them. A veto I told you was complete bull****. And what did he do – he signed whatever they sent him. Just like I said he would. And after the fact – days after the fact, is when the reports finally came out that Obama left a meeting with the Democratic and Republican leadership, and that he was threatening to veto what they were putting together. I was able to tell you what happened, told you what happened, because I got it from the room. Understand? From the ****ing room. If I give you something that specific, it’s the real-time deal. Don’t ever doubt me on that.

Ulsterman: Fair enough. How about you tell me how Obama is defeated in 2012? Let’s assume Holder is still Attorney General – how does Obama lose?

Insider: First, Holder won’t be Attorney General by November 2012. But I’ll leave off on that and talk politics with you. The simple, in it to win it, get your hands dirty with the **** up to your balls politics. My world.

Ulsterman: Absolutely – let’s hear it.

Insider: Hold on then – here we go…The Obama team has already initiated a comprehensive plan of attack for 2012. Just a bit of that has leaked out already. They are developing campaign scenarios based upon the most possible Republican nominees. Now at this point, and here’s one of those specifics you can bank on that I just told you about, so try and pay attention…at this point, Mitt Romney has received the brunt of the Obama team’s focus. And they still believe he will be the likely nominee, which at this point I would agree with. The funding organization the Romney people put together is ****ing fantastic. The involvement of Perry – Governor Perry, has them scrambling now though. I don’t believe they actually thought he was going to go for it this time around. I was told the Perry people had leaked to them – the Obama operatives, that Governor Perry was actually not considering a run until 2016. If true, good for them. Classic head fake that has left the Obama machine now doing catch-up to prepare for a possible run against Perry. You want to make those Chicago Obama boys stain their drawers? Tell them the South is about to rise again! (laughs)

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None of this is beyond the norm though. Where it gets different for the Obama campaign is what I’ll just call the Obama Plan. They are going way beyond simply working up your typical campaign scenarios against potential opponents. The president – I was told of this about a week ago, maybe two weeks ago…(pause)… the president actually considered quitting. He really did. But now he’s going on the attack. He wants to give a big F-You to White America – that’s actually one of his primary motivations. You think the race card has been played up before? Just wait. 2012 is gonna be the most brutal political cycle we have ever witnessed. Ever.

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White House Insider: The Obama Plan – Part Two

http://s3.amazonaws.com/triond/avatars/2009/08/11/230557_a.jpg Published by Ulsterman on August 15, 2011 in Politics



"Even if it means the threat of race riots. They are willing to go that far – go down that road if need be. If the Obama team can’t guilt enough of White America into voting for them in 2012 – they are just fine with trying to scare the sh-t out of them to do it."


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Insider: None of this is beyond the norm though. Where it gets different for the Obama campaign is what I’ll just call the Obama Plan. They are going way beyond simply working up your typical campaign scenarios against potential opponents. The president – I was told of this about a week ago, maybe two weeks ago…(pause)… the president actually considered quitting. He really did. But now he’s going on the attack. He wants to give a big F-You to White America – that’s actually one of his primary motivations. You think the race card has been played up before? Just wait. 2012 is gonna be the most brutal political cycle we have ever witnessed. Ever.

Ulsterman: Hold up there. Obama – the president…he actually considered quitting? Where did you hear that?

Insider: Yes he considered it. How seriously I don’t know, but he was chirping about it to some people for a bit. Before uhh…before summer. He was considering…told the president described the idea as “cool”. That’s how he put—

Ulsterman:(Interrupts) —Where did you hear that? There has been nothing said about Obama quitting anywhere that I know of. Nothing.

Insider: That’s about right. Why would there be? But that’s what he was saying. Basically wondering out loud…something along those lines, about just quitting after one term. Then that talk went away – just like that, and now the president seems very-very motivated to kick some ass. Obviously somebody had a sit down with him and…modified the president’s way of thinking on that subject.

Ulsterman: Jarret?

Insider: Maybe. I’m sure she was involved on some level. She’s always there. Somewhere. Somehow. She can’t afford to have Obama just up and quit. None of them can. The tactics used to obtain the position of president are now being protected by the position of president. Sold his soul for a job he can’t stand. Get it? Obama put himself in a ****in’ corner of his own making. His own and the makings of those who placed him there, and there ain’t no way they allow him to just quit it. Way too much invested in this cluster-****. Billions. Trillions. Who the **** knows?

Ulsterman: Ok, so you say Barack Obama considered not running for re-election. But now he is running hard to do just that – and the campaign is going to be…what’s the word you used?

Insider: Brutal.

Ulsterman: How so? How brutal?

Insider: How brutal? Very, that’s…that’s what—

Ulsterman (Interrupts) —No, I mean, how is it going to brutal? Any more brutal than a typical presidential campaign?

Insider: Ah…well, I’ll first say there is nothin’ typical about any presidential campaign. They are all Frankensteins. The very worst of human behavior is par for the course. Ugly-ugly-ugly. Your boy Reagan – his people were about the toughest, meanest sons-a-bitches I ever seen run a presidential campaign. All smiles and jokes and positive messaging on the outside, and kick ‘em in the ****ing teeth behind the scenes. As tough as those guys were, Barack Obama is gonna be much-much worse.

Ulsterman: How? What’s the plan? What’s going to be different from all the other campaigns?

Insider: You’ve already seen it. A taste of it. Race. The race card. Racism. Race-race-race. It’s all they ****ing got to run on these days.

Ulsterman: Race? Hasn’t Obama played that one out already? It’s become a joke.

Insider: Played it out? No, not…you might think so but no…his people are going to raise the issue of race to a level this country hasn’t seen since the Civil Rights movement. White guilt got Barack Obama the nomination. White guilt got Barack Obama into the White House. At least it was a big part of it…they are not sure they can run on the economy by summer of 2012. Motivation is way down – the people on the ground. Many of them will be sitting this one out. The campaign conducted over five internals in the last few months. Each time the one issue that came back favorably for the president was the color of his skin. People are not comfortable…white people are not comfortable going against a person of color. At least not a whole lot of them. Those studies – those kinds of studies…they were first incorporated by the Hillary campaign back in 2007 and 2008. It scared the hell out of her – she was so afraid of being called a racist. So she attacked Obama on his lack of experience, she just touched on some of the Chicago garbage…but in the end, the race issue kept her from really engaging in all out political war. The Clinton machine was handcuffed. When Obama used race to get America to forgive the fact he spent some 20 years sitting in the church of a proven anti-American fascist ****ing racist – what could they do? It was game over. I told you a bit of that already…at the start of all this. Right?

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Ulsterman: Yes – how you were stunned Obama survived the Jeremiah Wright scandal.

Insider: Nobody should have survived that. No candidate…I don’t care how good…nobody survives something so – they had the videos for ****’s sake!

Ulsterman: But he did survive it – and rather easily. He gave that speech, and the media praised him for it and the issue was dead.

Insider: EXACTLY. Don’t you understand it then? How race – that very thing that pulled his ass out of the fire back in 2008 – that’s the plan for 2012. But even more of it. They got an entire plan to utilize it. Targeting certain states. A media campaign. Use it as a weapon against prospective opponents – the Romney people better be ready because he’s gonna get his ass kicked with the race issue and he won’t even see it coming. They better have their boy prepared for that…

Ulsterman: States? Media campaign? For the race issue?

Insider: Yes. It’s in place and underway – being developed. Further developed. It’s gonna – gonna tie it in with the unions somehow. I don’t know exaclty how – just that’s included in it. It will be an all out campaign on race. The goal is to completely mobilize the Black vote while shaming an even greater number of white voters into not opposing a second Obama term. They are gonna get out the guilt vote man. The guilt vote!

Ulsterman: Obama…Democrats in general, already get the Black vote – most of it.

Insider: They want all of it. Every last one. Then bring in the Hispanic vote, tie them up in this race issue as well. Republicans want to toss you out. Obama wants to bring you in. They hate the color of Obama’s skin just like they hate the color of yours. Hey White America, you aren’t part of that group who hates non-whites are you? If not, you better get out and vote for Barack Obama.

Ulsterman: That sounds overly simplistic and insulting to voters. You really think something like that would actually work?

Insider: Hell yes-yes… it can work. It’s not gonna come so easy as it did in 2008, but that’s why they plan to ramp it up – the race issue. Look, you got generations of voters in this country who have been hammered with guilt for being white. Schools, television, movies…decades of this racism **** coming at them from all sides. White guilt is very real. I’ve used it-done it myself… countless times in an election campaign. And for Barack Obama…his re-election team – they are banking on it bringing victory in 2012. Even if it means the threat of race riots. They are willing to go that far – go down that road if need be. If the Obama team can’t guilt enough of White America into voting for them in 2012 – they are just fine with trying to scare the **** out of them to do it. And you need to know that there are a lot of Democrats who are hearing about this and are not on board. We’ve always used the race issue to our advantage – but what the Obama team has planned is something…it’s something else altogether. Off the charts stuff. Remember when I said that Obama ain’t no Democrat? That’s as true now as it’s ever been. And he’s on some kind of collission course now with everybody scrambling to get out of the way, and then some of us trying to do what we can to stop it before it’s too late. He’s already destroyed the party…much of it. Gonna take a long time to recover. Daley can’t stop this from within. He’s moderated the damage, but he’s wearing down. Now it’s the country we are worried about. My kids and grandkids will do all right without a Democratic Party around. They need to have an America though. The whole world does.

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Ulsterman: You really believe Barack Obama would go that far to win in 2012? He would be willing to engage in that kind of tactic? Just how far would he go?

Insider: (Pauses)… As far as it takes. We’re preparing for it. I sure as hell hope America is too. Like I told you…this election coming up…Brutal.

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White House Insider: The Obama Plan – Part Three

http://s3.amazonaws.com/triond/avatars/2009/08/11/230557_a.jpg Published by Ulsterman on August 21, 2011 in Politics



"The president doesn’t like the Oval Office much – he’s made that point repeatedly to more than a few at the White House. He prefers to be upstairs, no suit. No shoes. No joke —"


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Insider: (Pauses)… As far as it takes. We’re preparing for it. I sure as hell hope America is too. Like I told you…this election coming up…Brutal.

Ulsterman: What do you mean by we – we are preparing for it? And are you actually saying that Barack Obama would push for race riots to somehow win a presidential election? That sounds…far fetched. Even for this administration.

Insider: Does it? How so? You need to take step back and see more of what has been happening in this country. It’s why this thing went from a concern about the party to a serious concern about the country. Why aren’t you seeing that?

Ulsterman: Just explain – the race rioting. I don’t see how that would help Obama get re-elected. It doesn’t…I just don’t see how that would work. In fact it seems like just the opposite. If we go from economic chaos to…whatever one would call it – racial chaos…that doesn’t help Obama. So yeah – I don’t see what you are saying there.

Insider: (Leans back – folds arms across chest) You and too many goddamn Americans don’t see it so don’t feel so bad. You know, other world leaders see it. Putin. Sarkozy. Merkel. Harper…Barack Obama is incapable of anything remotely resembling leadership, but he is also quite capable of the kind of dangerous arrogance that the very worst leaders in history possessed. (Pauses) Look, let me try and paint a picture for you – a clearer picture of what Obama really is. If you were to step into the White House and see the man at work, or whatever the hell it is he calls it. It’s not the same as what some of his own people are calling it – I know that for certain. The jokes, the sneers that go on behind the president’s back. You want to see that picture? The real Barack Obama? Maybe then you might understand what the man is capable of – really capable of.

Ulsterman: Go ahead.

Insider: I’m at my desk here right? We’re sitting here having this conversation. How about we take a look at what the president would look like in the same situation? Walk into that room – that office of his on the 2nd floor. He spends less and less time downstairs – that’s Daley’s world now. The president doesn’t like the Oval Office much – he’s made that point repeatedly to more than a few at the White House. He prefers to be upstairs, no suit. No shoes. No joke —

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Ulsterman: (Interrupts) —Shoes?

Insider: Yeah – shoes. President Obama, when he is in his de facto office upstairs – the one that is closer to Jarrett’s own office, and a short hop over to the residence, he spends his time there often in shorts, or sweats, a t-shirt, and those sandal things…flip-flops. There is a large screen television in there and that’s where hours of his time are spent when he is actually at the White House. Day in and day out. The First Lady rules the residence, and the president heads over to his 2nd floor West Wing study. Starting around last spring, he started to take regular briefings in there. And the instructions that went out on those briefings to the president were that they were to be most importantly – brief. Anything more than about 15 minutes is unacceptable to Obama. So let’s look through the eyes of someone heading into Barack Obama’s upstairs office at the White House to give him a briefing. Maybe it’s on national security. Maybe the economy. Energy policy. Whatever – doesn’t matter. The scenario being played out these days is pretty much the same regardless of the particulars. You knock on the door – it’s always closed. Always. Often you have to knock for some time before being given approval from inside to enter. The big screen will be on – the volume loud. You can easily hear it from outside the door. The sports channels are the ones most commonly playing, though sometimes the channel will be set to music, or Fox News. Sometimes Valerie Jarrett might be there, but most often it is just the president and his personal aide. A large leather chair will be facing the television – it’s well worn. Not part of the White House furnishings but something the president must have brought in from back home. That’s where you’ll most often find the President of the United States – the most powerful man in the free ****ing world. He often sits with one leg draped over one of the chair’s arms and the other leg stuck straight onto the floor. Shorts, sweats, a t-shirt, and like I said, no shoes or just those sandal things that so many of the younger people like to wear these days. And that leg that’s draped over an arm of the chair will be bopping up and down, like…like someone with a lot of nervous energy. Like a kid does. And there’s the smell of smoke hanging on the president. The guy never quite smoking – that was all bull****. I told you that already. In fact, there’s one of those smokeless ash trays on the desk in there. And that desk, it’s a mess. Magazines spread out all over it. Stupid **** too. Real low brow reading material the president is into. People. Rolling Stone. Lots of those tabloid things. The most common thread with this **** is it’s about the president. If it’s about him, he’s gonna read it. Good or bad – doesn’t matter. If somebody is talking about him, he’s reading it. He’s watching it. Whatever. The guy’s self-obsession is off the ****ing charts.

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So that’s what you first see when you enter the room – the upstairs office of President Obama. Next you’re gonna notice how small the guy looks. Really thin. He pads his suits up you know. The top end. The shoulders. It became an actual issue during the 2008 campaign – some of his handlers were saying it made his neck look too small. Fact is, it made his neck look just like it is – small. The guy is scrawny. All knees and elbows sitting in that chair. Sometimes he gets up when you come in, sometimes he remains seated and will just turn the volume on the TV down with the remote and say, “What you got?” That foot is bouncing up and down while you give him the briefing, but he rarely looks over at you – always looking at whatever is on the television. If it’s Jarrett in the room, or the personal assistant, one of them is there to keep the time. Your time. Don’t go over that fifteen minutes. And even if the president doesn’t look like he hears a word you’re saying, they are listening to everything. Every goddamn syllable coming out of your mouth, and if something is said they don’t like, they jot down notes. Been told it’s to use for the end of day summary they give the president – their own version of what is important and what can be ignored…and who might need to be pushed down, or pushed out…or whatever. So you’re looking at the president, this skinny guy, who’s ignoring you, who’s dressed like some kind of ****ing frat boy wannabe, with somebody else taking notes on what you’re saying, and then you get up and walk out. The president might acknowledge you on some days, give a little nod, maybe even a thank you, but most often he just continues to look at the TV, bounce that foot on the chair, his skin looking off-color, pale, the eyes out of focus, the hair a helleva lot more gray than is shown in public, the wrinkles around the mouth far deeper…and the hands. His ****ing hands are so…they are just these thin little stick digits. They are like these long-fingered woman’s hands. And his wrists, you could wrap your own fingers all the way around those wrists – again, so much like a woman’s hands. Almost freakish. Certainly not the strong alpha-male type image that America was given during the 2008 campaign.

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That’s who you see in the room – the real Barack Obama. Pretty ****ing unsettling. Those world leaders, they sensed this. They saw through the façade and saw who was running the United States of America, and the word went out – “Don’t count on this American president - he doesn’t have a ****ing clue.” And they’re right.

Ulsterman: So what? The president is a thin man. He has small hands. What the hell does that have to do with-with…anything? Or anything relevant to the 2012 election, or the scandal, or to—

Insider: (Interrupts)—I’m trying to lay out the psychological foundation of the son-of-a-bitch. You think people might want to know what this man is really like? How everything around him – the whole ****ing image…it’s a charade. It’s a lie. He fooled me – he fooled a whole lot of us. And he is frightened every hour of every day that the country will find out. But this realization, this little part of Obama’s self-awareness, it’s getting beat down by the guy’s absolute arrogance and when necessary, willingness to over-reach acceptable executive authority. Yeah, it’s a lot more important than the fact he dresses like a slob when the cameras aren’t on, or that he lies over and over again just because it’s convenient and the media continues to let him get away with it…it’s about how far he will go to keep the charade up, right? How far, and who is he willing to throw under that bus? Who can be sacrificed to keep up the lie that is Barack Obama? To keep the scandals down? To keep people quiet? To keep himself as the tool for the ones really calling the shots?

So will he stir up the race issue if it means guilting or scaring white voters to keep him in the White House? Hell yes he will. He’s been doing that **** his whole damn life! You wanna say so what to that? You wanna see this country torn apart by race because we have a president who sees it as a viable political tool? Don’t answer – let me talk here. I’m laying some things out I’ve been holding back on, so if you wanna hear it, let me talk. Don’t interrupt me with one of your little questions…

The race card, the racial thing – whatever it’s gonna be called, it is the number one asset this administration believes it has to win in 2012. Their own polling data has shown that to be true over and over again. But how far are they willing to push that? Race. The charges of racism? I believe all the way if they have to. And they are gonna get people stirred up. And if Barack Obama doesn’t win re-election, watch them stand back while the riots break out, and watch them mouth the words “Burn baby burn.” I don’t think they are willing to go that far, I know it. If they can’t have America, nobody will. That’s how big – that’s how important this election coming up is. Even the people who pay attention to this stuff…they don’t realize how big this is. How important to the country. We are truly at a fork in the road here. This administration is going to attempt whatever necessary to remain in power. Race. Intimidation. Media attacks. Division – divide and ****ing conquer. You notice how divisive the Republican primary campaigns have already started to become? You think that’s all occurring on its own? Hell no. Tens of millions of dollars are already being spent getting conservatives, Republicans, Independents, whatever – get them to attack each other. Get them frustrated and lower their desire to vote for the eventual nominee. You know, Republicans used to be the party that would unite behind the nominee when they were chosen – it frustrated the hell out of us Democrats who were always bitching over this or that right up until the election. That’s not the case anymore, and your Republicans are much weaker because of it. I’ll say this, if Republicans don’t get their **** together and vote for whoever is the nominee – and I mean WHOEVER is the nominee, then it will be another four years of Barack Obama running this country into the ****ing dirt and that’s what we deserve. If we are too stupid as a country to fix this mess…then so be it. It’s over. The America we know, the America we knew – it’s over. Done. And we will only have ourselves to blame.

Ulsterman: Allow me one question? I don’t mean to interrupt you, but one question. A last question if you want.

Insider: Fine – needed to catch my breath anyway. Make it the last one. What do you want to know?

Ulsterman: How are you defeating Barack Obama in 2012? Just give me a quick outline so I know what to look for. So people reading this know what to look for. A simple and concise summary of what you are doing – you and those you say are helping.

Insider: I’ve told you already. I’ve—

Ulsterman: (Interrupts)—Summarize it for me. Help me to connect the dots…

Insider: Ok…where to start? Ah…

Ulsterman: Wherever you want – what is your plan to defeat Barack Obama in 2012?

Insider: Remove Eric Holder from the DOJ. That is underway. You know all about that – or at least what I have told you. That is the scandal part of all of this. Initially we tripped up, but now it’s back on track. We need Congress to push it to its conclusion. I have no power over that – but it’s there and it’s ready to happen. That is a lot more than I hoped for not so long ago. But this is stuff I’ve told you already—

Ulsterman: That’s fine – just summarize it. The primary means you plan to utilize in defeating Obama.

Insider: Ok – so getting Eric Holder out. That opens up opportunities to bypass the DOJ firewall, and it appears this can take place at a time when the voters are starting to pay attention as we get closer to the 2012 election. I believe that is why Issa and others have been so…cautious on this. There is no real benefit to proceeding quickly – let it play out, build momentum for the rest of the year, and hang it around the president’s neck as he is trying to win re-election in 2012.

Next we are really pushing, and pushing hard, to get a primary challenger against Obama. Hoping to have this in place by the fall. This—

Ulsterman: You think Obama could lose the Democratic nomination?

Insider: **** no. Listen. And learn some goddamn history before you ask such a stupid question. No we don’t think the president would lose the nomination. What we know is that historically, a sitting president who faces a primary challenger is much more vulnerable to defeat in the General Election. Got it? Now most people use Jimmy Carter as an example – 1980 and his challenge from Kennedy. That applies to this scenario, but there is a more recent example. Do you know it?

Ulsterman: More recent than Carter? No…are you talking about Ross Perot? A third party—

Insider: No – not Perot. Not him. Right time, wrong example. Perot hurt Bush – absolutely. If there was no Ross Perot 3rd party there would not have been a Bill Clinton victory – we knew that then… but President Bush was damaged before the General Election by a primary challenger. A gentleman who blasted Bush from his own base and helped raise the apathy levels regarding a second Bush term – a strong ideological primary challenger. The kind of challenge we would like to initiate against President Obama in a few months.

Ulsterman: Who was it?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/08/21/election9202lg_1.jpg


Insider: Buchanan. Pat Buchanan. Buchanan’s primary challenge helped make the Ross Perot movement possible, which in turn led to Bill Clinton’s ability to win the presidential election that year even though he only won 43% of the popular vote. We don’t need a 3rdparty movement to run against President Obama, but we do need a primary challenger – and we are working toward that end. The Obama White House is already aware of this possibility. So be it. I want them to know. If they are losing some sleep over it, all the better. Maybe it’ll make someone walk upstairs and turn off the president’s ****ing television.

Ulsterman: Do you have someone in mind? Someone willing – a Democrat willing to engage in a primary challenge against Obama?

Insider: Yes.

Ulsterman: Care to say who?

Insider: No…what I will say is that those are two of the three tactics we are engaging in against Barack Obama’s re-election – continuing to push Eric Holder out of the DOJ, securing a primary challenger, and the other thing…it relates to a staffing issue. The loss of a critical member of the Obama staff. A resignation that will further the growing perception that the Obama White House is a place of internal disarray – which it absolutely is. And this event will also be a signal to those in the Democratic Party that Barack Obama’s re-election is not in their best future interests. It is time we cut our losses and begin the rebuilding process sooner rather than later. And I’m not just talking about the Democratic Party – I’m talking about the country. All of us. All of us need to correct this mistake, and that’s what the election of Barack Obama was. At its core, that’s what it really was – a huge mistake.

…But we’re makin’ it right.

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-the-obama-plan-part-three-2/

[GCS1103]

Jackovesk- You have outdone yourself with this thread. Fascinating, and I believe it all.

[mountain_jim]

I have read all of the previous articles from this source. While I have no doubt that alot of this concerning internals in the Obama presidency is accurate, consider that much of it comes from a point of view that supports Hillary and feels she should have been / should be prez.

That does not fly for me, she's as much of a controlled elite insider as Obama is, just slightly different factions, in my view. And to say Obama destroyed the Democratic Party is BS - almost all of the Dems are destroying the party themselves by taking the Banksters and Military and Corporations money and working for them rather than the citizens of this country.

I hope they do get Holder out - what a travesty the 'Justice Department' has become.

[DeBron]

I personally dont understand why you would give any credence to someone who cannot apprently go five minutes without cussing. My elders always told me someone who cusses alot doesn't have much to say that's worth listening to.

[Peace of Mind]

Sounds like this insider has some serious issues. Tbh, In my observation all I’ve seen in Obama’s presidency is a struggle to use the power that was appointed to him (which no other president had problems with), along with a slow rise in global bigotry. Is all clear to me. This broken, political system is being used to further divide the masses…and what do we do? Act blind and fan the flames.

If you still put faith into the obviously flawed mechanism called “politics” you will always be part of the problem. I trust none of them. I find it very hard believing in any politician, especially those that can’t even give a decent interview without it being laced with profanity… fortunately the diatribe exposed very important attributes of his true character.

The problem is much bigger than the prez, the insider, GOP, or the Dem’s. It’s US/WE sitting back watching, allowing the nonsense to continue and placing responsibility in the hands of a few…who really don’t care nothing about you. What’s sad about it is that we already know this. We are facing other problems that are obliviously way more important than this…as we seem not to actually care enough to do anything about it…but vote. We can do better, but will we?

Peace

[Ixopoborn]

Fascinating posts Jak. I am now very interested in finding supporting evidence for Obama reAlly behaving in the totally lame duck way mentioned in the disclosure.

Is there anyone else writing about Obama in these terms or is this alleged behaviour on his part a well guarded secret of the White House? I would expect something like thus to leak out a lot?

[Lifebringer]

Boy are these guys stupid. The Obama people are the American people, so buck off bucko!

None of your corporate henchmen that gut people's jobs for overseas cheap labor is gonna work. In fact WE have it on a higher authority, that the real "inside" man for God is the President.
Jesus said during the last day of his ascension, that he would send a teacher who told the truth.

So there you go. I hope he rams his size 12 shoe up your corrupt behinds. And that Eric Holder thing will only 'drag Clinton" and screw Hillary's chance up. Do they figure that Elizabeth Warren may be the 2016 President who will know all the little loopholes they put in and cut the ties that bind the American people to third world wages.

Can't wait to see what the jerks got. They will never overcome the power of the People and their vote.

Earth to azzwipes, the jig is up, just bring a toothbrush, the state pays for the paste.

Hahahahahahaha.

[GCS1103]

I personally dont understand why you would give any credence to someone who cannot apprently go five minutes without cussing. My elders always told me someone who cusses alot doesn't have much to say that's worth listening to.

Hi, DeBron-

Take it from one who deals with State politicians several times a week- they curse constantly. Not in public, but in private. I admit to doing the same also.

[risveglio]

Boy are these guys stupid. The Obama people are the American people, so buck off bucko!

Really? Obama's people are just Bush's people. Where is there a difference?

I fear there may be some truth to this article because you are already seeing a planned attack on the Tea Party. I just hope people see through it. The local Meet Up group I am a part of, though more of a Ron Paul group than a Tea Party is made up of about 25% African Americans so I know they would not fall for a race war.

[shadowstalker]

I personally dont understand why you would give any credence to someone who cannot apprently go five minutes without cussing. My elders always told me someone who cusses alot doesn't have much to say that's worth listening to.

Generally speaking, cussing like that usually is in partnership with frustration and anger, a lot of folks do that when upset.

So should we negate a thing cuz someone cusses while speaking truth? (not saying all is truth in this thread or not) whether angry or not?
That would be foolish to negate such a thing.
I know quite a few folks who cuss every other word and are still very truthful in what they say.
It is just another form of expression, it maybe brutal, but still just another form of expression.
And just because we are not comfortable with it, doesn't necessarily mean we should toss out altogether what has been said.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Boy are these guys stupid. The Obama people are the American people, so buck off bucko!



Whoa. What are you talking about lifebringer? Are you speaking in code or something? I hope you didn't mean it literally when you said "the Obama people are the American People" because if you did, that would be ridiculous to the point of being hilarious.

[jcocks]

One thing is for certain - obama pre-election and obama post-election are two different people. Make your own minds up for yourselves, but I'll bet he's as mind controlled as any president before him.

It is a mistake to blame the president for your troubles (if you do, you good little sheep! You're doing EXACTY what THEY want you to do!) when the powers behind the scenes are *** F A R *** more sinister!

You've got to understand - he can't do anything other than what he is doing! It is impossible! He may not even be himself anymore.....

Just food for thought.

[toothpick]

Great work as always Jack.
I fear that all politcal parties are complicite with the ptb.

toothpick

[jackovesk]

White House Insider: “They Are Crumbling In Amongst Themselves”

by Ulsterman on September 28, 2011

After a prolonged absence, our longtime D.C. Insider sends us this message regarding the inner workings of the Obama White House, including an “eruption” from Michelle Obama, and an administration breaking under the strain of accumulating scandals and a disapproving American public.

http://farxist.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKDGLE!-!zrzor45!-!PLRKQERI-KMHK-HNPF-LHLL-HIDDGGPHHFNO!-!72y1nq/michelle-obama-is-angry.jpg

Don’t have much time, on the road, but I’ll try and answer as many of your questions as I can.

Regarding the dynamics of the White House at this time it is same as it ever was which is batsh-t crazy 24/7 in there.

There was an episode involving the First Lady and a member of her staff that shook up everyone. It was a big enough deal it reached folks in Congress, who forwarded it on to some donors, who then had calls into Plouffe’s office wondering WTF was going on. The First Lady is being prepped as one of the few assets for the re-election campaign but those inside know she is as big a potential liability as anything associated with the administration. They are using her in controlled environments only. That’s the word from on high.

What went down between her and the staff member wasn’t just a tantrum, or some shouting. It was put to me as being “an eruption”.

Talking full on screaming here...

Not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I’ve shared a bit of that w/you before but this was on another scale apparently. Put the WH on security alert for a brief time. It was that bad. No mention of the president’s involvement or reaction. He was apparently AWOL during the whole thing. First Lady is complaining a lot these days. LOUDLY. To everyone. Apparently a very unhappy woman.

As for the president, he is simply seeking guidance. Any guidance. His moods are becoming more and more withdrawn once he leaves whatever stage they send him to.


Here’s a description that came my way last week you might find interesting:

“President Obama finished the speech, walked off the stage, was escorted to the back corridor where he collapsed into a seat against the wall. Both hands went to each side of his head which was leaning down almost between his knees. You could see marks on the sides of his face where the stage makeup had been rubbed off by his hands. He wears that stuff everywhere these days. A staffer walked up and leaned over the president and told him it was time to go. The president looked up, gave a little smile, and got to his feet slowly. Very slowly. The only word he said was “Yeah.” There was no excitement. No energy from him. The people around the president seemed to ignore his condition. They looked right through him until he started walking down the hallway toward the outside. They followed alongside him and seemed to kind of push him out the door. The president looked incredibly tired. Used up.”
http://farxist.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKDGLE!-!zrzor45!-!PLRKQERI-KMHK-HNPF-LHLL-HIDDGGPHHFNO!-!72y1nq/obama-white-houses.jpg

That’s the dynamics of this White House. They are crumbling in amongst themselves. The donors, as I have been repeating to you for months, are getting more agitated and concerned each day. The president is being cornered and he doesn’t appear to have much fight left in him.

Don’t take that as me being confident though. That makes him more dangerous than ever.

He still has his hardliners around him. They will not give this up. Jarrett will break him apart if needed. Too much money on the line. They owe people. Pulling the plug is not an option for them.


And while we have been working up the primary challenge against the president in the fall, I am hearing those bastards have been attempting to install a 3rd candidate scenario to split the vote. Not just idle talk, but actual negotiations having taken place.

If they pull that off, well, I don’t know. We had not prepared for that scenario. It’s a long shot for them, but it put a scare in me. In all of us. Let our guard down there.

More importantly at the moment though is Fast and Furious. The Solyndra thing was an unexpected surprise. Had nothing to do w/that but happy to see it out there. If it continues to get attention from the public that’s great. The more the merrier when it comes to scandals against this administration.

I continue to see Fast and Furious as the much bigger deal for this White House though.

That has everyone running interference at a level only seen when something very big and very dangerous to a president is hovering over an administration. You keep asking about Issa. At this point I don’t know. Information has been effectively shut down from his office.


That either means a deal has been struck and some stooge will take the fall, or they are preparing to go all in on this thing. A Watergate type moment.

At this point it’s one or the other. Holder has openly insulated himself and the president. Doing it so openly means he’s either very confident or very afraid. I am hoping its fear that is motivating him to cover his tracks right in front of everyone.

Been told there is a memo, or was a memo, tying Fast and Furious directly to some kind of proposed gun control legislation or plan. Not certain how developed it was. Something that was pending . The memo is a direct link between the program and the gun control issue. An entire coordinated effort that required people to be killed.

It is being talked about, but I have not seen it or spoken with anyone who has. So who knows? If it does exist and if Issa or someone comparable to him has it, then it implicates the administration at an entirely new level of corruption here.


We’re talking about people marching on the White House and throwing them out on their ass.

Either way, if Fast and Furious is to break out completely against this White House, it needs to happen soon, so we will have our answer either way.

Will talk again. Not sure how soon.

-Insider

Source: The Ulsterman Report (http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/09/28/white-house-insider-%E2%80%9Cthey-are-crumbling-in-amongst-themselves%E2%80%9D-2/)

http://farxist.com/pt/White-House-Insider-They-Are-Crumbling-In-Amongst-Themselves/blog.htm

PS - I know the People are Sick of the Sight of You Barry, looks likes you are TOO..!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T2bvohkJSaA/TiNxiHxiJAI/AAAAAAAAAJo/-f0arPa03i0/s400/episodeArt322.jpg

[Mulder]

This reminds me of the Federal Reserve Act being secretly enacted during the holiday season on 12/23/1913. It looks like there's no protests or outcry so far after Obama signed it.

I suspect this is in preparation for an upcoming crisis or war that's planned for the near future. Look at other things happening now like Patriot missiles on the way to China and giant UFOs photographed near the moon. I think these are all related and we will soon see what they are planning.

Here is my favourite Solzhenitsyn quote - will Americans sit and wait for the knock on the door?

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur -- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

[TargeT]

hasn't this been the case for a while... all they have todo is label you a terrorist.. which is all too easy.

the media falls in, a short blerb about you is played.. people you know will think "yep, its always the quiet ones" or "I always knew there was something wrong with that guy" & promtly forget you...

Hell just recently we had a few people arrested up here, one was a Militia leader that was REALLY rocking the boat with soveirnty & common law, he even set up his own common law court system..... The FBI raided his house, blocked streets off, and arrested him under charges that were later thrown out... but its too late now isn't it?

Popular opinion has been "informed" already by the media of his "crimes" & of course even if they report on the illegal arrest the damage is done... his name tarnished and with it the VERY citizen friendly militia movement he started along with his common Law court system & his emergency anti-tyranny network: the Liberty Bell network (if a person felt their rights were being violated by police or any other agency that had the wrongly given ability to use force, they would call the liberty bell network... Volenteers would show up and peacefully observe, ensuring all rights for all parties involved were respected,,, an AMAZING system that I am going to try and resurect this summer in southern alaska)

I think they are making it legal to do what they are already doing; at least thats my current thoery... we (US citizens) will put up with a LOT of iddiocy from our master, err government; but they know they can't push us TOO far, and we have a lot of guns.. but willlingly put them away for unifmored thugs (I never understood that...) if we think everything is done "right".

Does he have flaws? yes....
Arrogant, Young, Confident... He (to me) is the epitomy of a revolutionary.
But he's human, and he DID SOMETHING
If you haven't seen this young man's presentation, I HIGHLY encourage it; though I do not know if he will be a player in the future as he is still inprisoned (unsure of the "current" charges.. probably a joke though..)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOUqurUgFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOUqurUgFk

[Rollo]

Obama was waiting until 31/12/2011 what a coward! All of them are.

[ktlight]

Obama has apparently expressed doubt, said he felt uneasy about detaining without trial!!!!!!! And yet he signed.

[TargeT]

Obama has apparently expressed doubt, said he felt uneasy about detaining without trial!!!!!!! And yet he signed.

yeah, in public he did that, but I think that is anythign but a reflection of reality. ... remember, this is the same guy that ordered the assasination of a US citizen recently.....

[ulli]

This reminds me of the Federal Reserve Act being secretly enacted during the holiday season on 12/23/1913. It looks like there's no protests or outcry so far after Obama signed it.

I suspect this is in preparation for an upcoming crisis or war that's planned for the near future. Look at other things happening now like Patriot missiles on the way to China and giant UFOs photographed near the moon. I think these are all related and we will soon see what they are planning.

Here is my favourite Solzhenitsyn quote - will Americans sit and wait for the knock on the door?

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur -- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

Same with German farmers...when all the local Buergermeisters (Mayors) had been replaced by a man from Berlin, and the local village idiot decided to get even and told the man from Berlin who had said what about the new government in the local pubs....and one farm after another suddenly found itself just with mum and kids alone to run it....
Same in East Germany...my best friend was raised by her grandparents....all she had of her dad was one black and white photograph...arrested one night, and never heard of again.

[Mulder]

I heard on talk-back radio that there are BIZARRE sections in the NDAA that legalise Beastiality! :help:
tY8Nu8ue8n0
The woman caller talks about bestiality from about 6.00 minutes into this video.
From what I heard, it's now OK for soldiers to have "animal partners" in their homes. :help: This is astonishing, I can't see what Beastiality has to do with security! I have to say I can't believe this and I will have to read the NDAA to see what it actually says! I think the whole NDAA is to DE-HUMANISE us. Notice dehumanisation ALWAYS happened before a halocaust! People were de-humanised before the Armenian halocaust, before Russia's anti-Semitic pogroms, & the Jewish Halocaust. I think we are really at a tipping point in history, and how we act NOW is going to determine our future (or lack of future). I hope we collectively get through the next decade better than we've done in the past.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I am Declaring Dick Cheney a terrorist and calling for a citizen's arrest for indeffinate detention for his crimes against humanity...

It goes both ways... ;)

I want those responsible for this mess that didn't even attempt to clean it up or warn us arrested...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Z3M53Ek0U

I want Bankers that destroyed the dreams of Millions of Americans arrested... If Al Queda threatened to destroy a million homes, we'd arrest them now wouldn't we?

I want Wall Street Traders arrested for manipulating commodities so children are starving...

These are terrorists of America...

Law enforcement, free donuts, you have a lot of work ahead... :ranger:

¤=[Post Update]=¤

can these threads be merged?

[Mulder]

Same with German farmers...when all the local Buergermeisters (Mayors) had been replaced by a man from Berlin, and the local village idiot decided to get even and told the man from Berlin who had said what about the new government in the local pubs....and one farm after another suddenly found itself just with mum and kids alone to run it....
Same in East Germany...my best friend was raised by her grandparents....all she had of her dad was one black and white photograph...arrested one night, and never heard of again.

I'm glad you've brought up what happened in Nazi Germany and Post War East German (GDR). This sounds terrible how fathers were taken, never to be seen again. I've read that most German prisoners weren't killed by Hitler, but were forced to join the military to fight WW2. But it sounds like these farmers were killed as none of them ever returned. I've spent a lot of time in Germany & I was astonished at how cultured and intelligent most German people are - for example, many Germans can speak English fluently. It's so hard to believe that the grand-parents of such amazing people could have been deceived. The parallels of what is happening now to the "free-world" and what happened in Nazi Germany are totally uncanny. It makes me believe that the same powers in charge then, are still in charge now & they are manipulating the world all over again, but this time they won't make the same mistakes as before (such as invading Russia). Not to mention operation paper-clip brought top Nazis to the USA & Markus Woolf from the GDR Stassi was astonishingly employed by the US Dept. of Homeland Security.

[Aryslan]

the local village idiot decided to get even and told the man from Berlin who had said what about the new government in the local pubs

Bear in mind that now-a-days they don't have to rely on individuals for such a thing, the internet (with it's illusion of anonymity) will do a far better job than the village idiot. This is one of the reasons I don't post my political opinion very much, call me paranoid if you will, but the writing is on the wall.

[ghostrider]

our entire government is terrorist, they should be detained without trial. this NDAA stuff is a slap in the face of American freedom... vote them ALL out.....vote them all OUT....

[Rocky_Shorz]

same discussion on Project Avalon's other NDAA discussion (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37768-NDAA-Signed-Into-Law)

[Mulder]

same discussion on Project Avalon's other NDAA discussion (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37768-NDAA-Signed-Into-Law)
Yes, there is a parallel NDAA thread. Thanks for linking it in your post. I've left a note on the 2nd thread asking an administrator to merge them together. But since it's the holidays, we'll have to wait for an administrator to help.

[astrid]

Yep, the holiday season is used to full advantage,
it happens every year.
Its no accident that those awake are very much
"tuned out" to the whole Xmas hype.
Why turning off, and throwing out the TV is usually a big
first step to waking up. The mind control box is removed.

They are cowards for sure.

[Kimberley]

same discussion on Project Avalon's other NDAA discussion (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37768-NDAA-Signed-Into-Law)

Yes I agree...vote them all out...if you can!!!

[Semnyi]

I think it is all connected through the mass media. http://blip.tv/dallasgoldbug/final-3d-5858820 Dallasgoldbug wellaware1.com I support Ed. I bet this all ties in based upon big media connections alone. Know any soldiers that get along with journalists/actors? Didn't think so.

:Semnyi

[Semnyi]

Looking at Len Horowitz ( http://www.livestream.com/thelovechanneltelevision oxysilver is the best water I could imagine) and wellaware1.com Ed Chiarini (media exposure 101) There is one dewd who sticks out the most. The Owner of AIG and Owner of Bayer aka. IG Farben Dr. Joseph Mengele (linked to Len Horowitz because he outs Dr. Mengle as does Ed Chiarnini) you see how worst criminals are most public figures. Lady gaga.... John Bennet Rhamsey..... Julian Assange ..... Bradley Manning...... I dont suppose Barak needs to be outed every one knows his geneology so it's a no-brainer, but you look at the bill he passed and wonder why?
:semnyi

[Mulder]

I've just had a HORRIBLE THOUGHT - will the local Police start picking up crime suspects that couldn't be charged in the past as there's no evidence against them? :lock1: From now on, will Police just arrest anyone they like, or they think is a criminal under this new law? Considering the US Govt is starting to "open up" FEMA camps by advertising staff vacancies for guards - are they expecting a mass influx of prisoners into these camps? :suspicious: The US Govt can't just use mass arrests of citizens yet, they will have to start slowly applying the NDAA - maybe to drug addicts, pedophiles, or people who've been found not guilty of crimes due to a technicality. So I'm saying the NDAA will start-off being applied to people that society will be "pleased" to see imprisoned!:cry: Then more and more people will be caught in its net! It's very scarey.

[Vitalux]

hasn't this been the case for a while... all they have todo is label you a terrorist.. which is all too easy.

the media falls in, a short blerb about you is played.. people you know will think "yep, its always the quiet ones" or "I always knew there was something wrong with that guy" & promtly forget you...

Hell just recently we had a few people arrested up here, one was a Militia leader that was REALLY rocking the boat with soveirnty & common law, he even set up his own common law court system..... The FBI raided his house, blocked streets off, and arrested him under charges that were later thrown out... but its too late now isn't it?

Popular opinion has been "informed" already by the media of his "crimes" & of course even if they report on the illegal arrest the damage is done... his name tarnished and with it the VERY citizen friendly militia movement he started along with his common Law court system & his emergency anti-tyranny network: the Liberty Bell network (if a person felt their rights were being violated by police or any other agency that had the wrongly given ability to use force, they would call the liberty bell network... Volenteers would show up and peacefully observe, ensuring all rights for all parties involved were respected,,, an AMAZING system that I am going to try and resurect this summer in southern alaska)

I think they are making it legal to do what they are already doing; at least thats my current thoery... we (US citizens) will put up with a LOT of iddiocy from our master, err government; but they know they can't push us TOO far, and we have a lot of guns.. but willlingly put them away for unifmored thugs (I never understood that...) if we think everything is done "right".

Does he have flaws? yes....
Arrogant, Young, Confident... He (to me) is the epitomy of a revolutionary.
But he's human, and he DID SOMETHING
If you haven't seen this young man's presentation, I HIGHLY encourage it; though I do not know if he will be a player in the future as he is still inprisoned (unsure of the "current" charges.. probably a joke though..)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOUqurUgFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOUqurUgFk

This video should be played on in every school.......in every work place....and ....every member joining this website as a member should be encouraged to watch it.
I am sending this video on to every single living soul that I know.

thank you for this amazing post!!!!!!!!

[Rollo]

How can you throw someone in jail just because he is suspected of something that may very well be a total fabrication.

In the days of Communist Russia (USSR) the father hide the grain of wheat in the floor to feed his own family. Otherwise, the state would take all the grain. One day, his young son went to the police and reported him. Father was sent to Siberia where he died, and his son was a national hero who had even monuments throughout Russia for showing exemplary behavior.

Alex Collier once said - "You were born on this planet, why do you have to pay for it." We all pay every day, in various forms. Obama and his company wants even more! I hope that this is just a game.

[ktlight]

"President Obama who pledged to veto the National Defense Authorization Act has signed it. Of course his promise was only for public consumption. After all lying to your enemy is what invading corporate takeover army's do. It was the Obama administration all along that demanded the indefinite detention provisions be added while at the same time telling the America people he was fighting to protect their rights. This is treason on parade,in your face all out despotism!

(AP Story)
Obama signs defense bill despite 'reservations'

HONOLULU (AP) -- President Barack Obama signed a wide-ranging defense bill into law Saturday despite having "serious reservations" about provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists."

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[Davy]

TPTB Have a time line for everything and everything happens in steps It is very important that they have the ground work layed for their future plans, Rest assured they have reason for putting in place these new bills so when time to implement the next stage they are ready! So they need these unlawful, unjust laws in place to back them! They started building the fema camps in 2006 and they knew then that they would put in place a bill that gives them legal justification to start filling up the camps! And all of the timing perfect for 2012! Coincidence I think not!

[GlassSteagallfan]

Obama, Hitler and Schmitt: "It is Already Happening," Warns Former CIA OfficerJanuary 1, 2012 • 11:22AM

Former CIA officer and historian Phil Giraldi warns in a Dec. 29 column for antiwar.com that Obama goes further than Bush and Cheney, and like Bush-Cheney, Obama has destroyed the U.S. Constitution in a way that parallels what Hitler and Carl Schmitt did against the Weimar Constitution.

"Sadly, on the verge of a new year, it is hard to argue that Washington in 2011 is much different from Weimar and Berlin in 1933," Giraldi says. "[T]he power coupled with lack of accountability that has been assumed by the [Obama] White House should be regarded as a deadly serious matter by every American citizen. If you think Weimar Republic Germany is a long time ago and far away so it can't happen here, you are wrong. It can happen here, and unless something is done to stop it, it almost surely will happen here. It is happening already." (emphasis added).

Giraldi notes that there are frequent analogies being made between the U.S. and empires. The neo-cons have delusions about the Roman imperial system being a perpetual American empire, while others says that a U.S. empire will destroy itself eventually as did Rome and London.

But for Giraldi, the parallel is Weimar. Like Weimar after the Reichstag Fire, the U.S. has destroyed the Constitution and replaced it with a "lawless Fuehrer state," like that provided for Hitler by Carl Schmitt and other leading jurists. Giving a brief summary of some of the crisis powers given to Hitler after the Reichstag Fire, which "was almost certainly carried out by the Nazis themselves," Giraldi emphasizes the importance of the "Enabling Act, which gave [Hitler] the authority to ignore parliament and pass laws by decree." The full name of the Enabling Act was, "in English, the Act for the Removal of Distress from People and Reich," and it said that "a powerful executive could ignore restraints imposed by bureaucrats and constitutions when required to cope with a crisis."

Today, America is far down a similar path, Giraldi warns.

"The first anti-terror legislation to pass was the USA PATRIOT Act, the full title of which is the The Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001, a euphemism oddly reminiscent of Hitler's Enabling Act," Giraldi says. It was followed by the PATRIOT Act II of 2006, and "the two laws diminished constitutional rights to free speech, freedom of association, freedom from illegal search, habeas corpus, prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, and freedom from the illegal seizure of private property. The First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Eighth Amendments in the Bill of Rights were all discarded or abridged....

"The Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA) followed, creating military tribunals for the trying of unlawful enemy combatants, including American citizens. Unlike in a civil or criminal court, the accused needs only a two-thirds vote by the commission members present to be convicted.... The act suspends habeas corpus and Geneva Convention protections and permits the indefinite jailing of suspects in a military prison without charges or access to a lawyer...."

Obama "has expanded the Bush portfolio, repeatedly citing state-secrets privileges to prevent any legal challenges while authorizing the assassination of U.S. citizens overseas based on suspicion, carrying out acts of war against countries with which Washington is not at war, and now, finally, signing the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which provides for indefinite military detention of anyone anywhere for any reason, including U.S. citizens in the United States, because the whole world is the battlefield. Did Hitler behave similarly in contravention of the Weimar constitution? He sure did...."

Giraldi doesn't make the obvious point that Lyndon LaRouche is warning about, but the point is clear. Remove Obama from office under the Constitution while there is still time.

Source: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/21035

[Ron Mauer Sr]

And who might be waiting in line if Obama is removed?

The order of presidential succession:

The Vice President Joseph Biden
Speaker of the House John Boehner
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Daniel Inouye
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta
Attorney General Eric Holder
Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu
Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

It MAY be possible to do even more damage to the Bill Of Rights with some of these people in the oval office. But maybe not.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0101032.html

[Dawn]

I was perusing a wonderful thread called 'I Hope this Post Will Change Your Life', which takes some time investment to fully experience, when I came across a very disturbing piece of information. Decide for yourself what is going on here. And please feel free to debunk this with solid evidence to the contrary. (PS: I have not ever made up my mind on Obama, I am open to discovering the truth... please don't shoot me, I am just the messenger)

Here's the first video so that you can understand how effective these techniques are:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqohoyI0sG4&feature=youtu.be

Here's the website where evidence is presented about Obama's use of 'Hack Hypnosis' techniques:

Obama’s Hidden Hypnosis Techniques

http://www.eso-garden.com/images/uploads_bilder/obama.jpg


THE EVIDENCE IS HERE: This document contains over 60 pages of evidence and analysis proving Barack Obama’s use of a little-known and highly deceptive and manipulative form of “hack” hypnosis on millions of unaware Americans, and reveals what only a few psychologists and hypnosis/NLP experts know.

Barack Obama’s speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a form of “conversational” hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients without their knowledge for therapy purposes.

Obama’s speeches intentionally contain:

Trance Inductions
Hypnotic Anchoring
Pacing and Leading
Pacing, Distraction and Utilization
Critical Factor Bypass
Stacking Language Patterns
Preprogrammed Response Adaptation
Linking Statements/ Causality Bridges
Secondary Hidden Meanings/Imbedded Suggestions
Emotion Transfer
Non-Dominant Hemisphere Programming



Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches: http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His _Speeches.pdf

You decide!



The link posted at the end of this quote leads to a 67 page book with evidence supporting this viewpoint. If its right, then you are duped every time you watch him, and maybe even if you simply listen to his speeches... and the only defense might be to understand what he is doing and how. OMG!

[Dawn]

Here is a Video about his use of NLP to help you understand the issue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iDwV7hCmw&skipcontrinter=1

There is a website at the end of the video which is shown briefly. It appears to be about the lawsuit re the healthcare bill and is over a year old. Here it is in case you wish to look at it and didn't catch it: http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089

[Ria]

The first link wont show, this might be because I am UK based. the second gives a lot of accusation and not enough demonstration. that dose not mean there is not foundation. Any one who is anyone, will have training, in delivering speeches, how to dress, how to engage, how to field questions, its a given. It is the MOTIVE behind the man, can we see it, do we know what it is, is he running with the bad boys to catch them out, or is he just one of them.

[Calz]

Not heard about the "hack technique" but there were many suggesting NLP during the last election.

Perhaps that is why he can get away with real head scratchers like this one:


Obama’s Signing Statement on NDAA: I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t

[wolf_rt]

I have no doubt whatsoever that this 'man' would use ANY technique available to him to further his cause...

I don't think i will be subjecting myself to any of his speeches to prove that point to myself though.

[GlassSteagallfan]

you left out Goldman Sucs and JP Morgoon

I see your point rmauersr. Just getting the top nazi out may be enough to set an example. There is a presidency not just a president. Striking the shepard could scatter (some of) the sheep.

If some of our bad policies were reversed, cronies from the bad side would jump right over to the good side. Happens all the time.

[Dawn]

wolf_rt: I have no doubt whatsoever that this 'man' would use ANY technique available to him to further his cause...

I don't think i will be subjecting myself to any of his speeches to prove that point to myself though.

I have, for some reason, had an aversion to listening to him from the first. When I've tried, I feel a deep sense of distrust and that I am manipulated, but I've been unable to put my finger on it. My partner has the exact same reaction. This does not mean that these claims are true, however it they are it might explain my 'gut' reaction.

I did meet someone in the hot springs, where I love to hang out, who has a personal story of Obama and his cabinet. This man has some sort of direct connection to Obama's administration around organic farming ,consciousness, grid lines, and nature spirits (like Perlanda works with). He told me Obama is a 'good guy' a true 'ruler FOR the people' not a 'ruler OF the people', but is hiding for now for fear of being assassinated by the PTB currently in Washington politics. I don't know how people like him decide upon this, he seemed not only convinced, but felt he was being dealt with in a very dramatically conscious way by the Obama Administration. I really don't know what to think about all of this. However it has raised some alarms.

Can anyone help those in the UK find a link to the first video on this thread called: Darren Brown "Trains of Thought". This is important because he clearly demonstrates the ability to totally wipe the memory of a subject within 1 second flat? And he does it over and over with total strangers. It is very scary actually.

[Anchor]

Obama’s Hidden Hypnosis Techniques

THE EVIDENCE IS HERE: This document contains over 60 pages of evidence and analysis proving Barack Obama’s use of a little-known and highly deceptive and manipulative form of “hack” hypnosis on millions of unaware Americans, and reveals what only a few psychologists and hypnosis/NLP experts know.

Barack Obama’s speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a form of “conversational” hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients without their knowledge for therapy purposes.

Obama’s speeches intentionally contain:

Trance Inductions
Hypnotic Anchoring
Pacing and Leading
Pacing, Distraction and Utilization
Critical Factor Bypass
Stacking Language Patterns
Preprogrammed Response Adaptation
Linking Statements/ Causality Bridges
Secondary Hidden Meanings/Imbedded Suggestions
Emotion Transfer
Non-Dominant Hemisphere Programming



Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches: http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His _Speeches.pdf

You decide!



The link posted at the end of this quote leads to a 67 page book with evidence supporting this viewpoint. If its right, then you are duped every time you watch him, and maybe even if you simply listen to his speeches... and the only defense might be to understand what he is doing and how. OMG!

IMHO the referenced article is itself an NLP effort to get you to suspect Obama uses NLP.

That might sound like a joke, but it isnt.

For the record, I expect he does. Most leaders do - either because they were trained, or they are just good at it anyway.

[wolf_rt]

http://protectproxy.info/browse.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjqohoyI0sG4%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&b=6&f=norefer

Try this one.

[Ria]

very funny wolf_rt

[Anchor]

Incidentally, this came up before on the old forum - I just dug out the reference. My analysis is there and I stand by it. Some cool comments by older members.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14289


Interesting...

Did it ever occur to any of you that this document in itself, is a good example of the use of NLP? In my view one especially constructed to make you beleive that Obama uses hypnosis and is "manipulating" his listeners in an evil way?

The opening page is hardly balanced:



Obama’s techniques are the height of deception and psychological manipulation, remaining hidden because
one must understand the science behind the language patterns in order to spot them. This document
examines Obama’s speeches word by word, hand gesture by hand gesture, tone, pauses, body language, and
proves his use of covert hypnosis intended only for licensed therapists on consenting patients. Obama’s
mesmerized, cult-like, grade-school-crush-like worship by millions is not because “Obama is the greatest
leader of a generation” who simply hasn’t accomplished anything, who magically “inspires” by giving
speeches. Obama is committing perhaps the biggest fraud and deception in American history.

This summary claim is not substantiated.


The techniques used by Obama are the most deceptive forms of communication known to man. They
sideline rational judgment and implant subconscious commands that change how people feel and behave
without any awareness of the manipulation. Obama’s techniques overcome the will without convincing the
judgment through trickery. Obama often says one message that you are aware of, meanwhile implants a
different message hypnotically with double or hidden meanings. He conjures up emotions by talking about
your children, and JFK, and then is caught transferring those feelings onto him with hidden hand gestures.
He hides what he is doing and brazenly uses these techniques in front of millions of people over and over.
Once explained, Obama’s actions can be shown to be the height of manipulation and deception.
And nor is this one!

In my opinion Obama is a superb, and inspired, orator (and I use that word deliberately) who makes compelling, passionate and persuasive arguments in his speeches that allow his position to be considered, re-considered and followed by those whom he now leads:

THIS IS WHAT LEADERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO!!

It sucks that his predecessor lowered the bar so much on that particular presidential quality that Obama's mastery is seen as modern witchcraft.

No offense to anyone here but please - have a critical rethink before going further down this path. Turn the BS filters up to the maximum! Not all efforts at persuasion are sophisticated mind control - any more than this post is.

Another quote from the paper - useful should anyone really try any of this BS on you...

The only thing you need to do to break a negative hypnotic spell that has been cast on you is begin to think rationally, to begin
to think critically. And if you decide that you choose this message as one that’s good for you, by all means sit back, relax, and
enjoy the ride. But, if you decide that this is not something you want to have in your life, just simply analyze it, criticise it,
ridicule it, and say “Hey, that’s not how the world works.” And you’ll have protected your mind from taking on board something
which you really dont need.”
Amplify your powers of discrimination by invoking the power, light and wisdom of your higher self or if you prefer it the one infinite creator, or whatever spiritual guide you feel in tune with - they will all help if asked.

A..

Jeez I dont change much do I ... LOL

[D-Day]

Obama is a mere puppet.
Puppets are easily manipulated, or replaced.
It's those pulling the strings we need concern ourselves with.
Who are the puppet masters?

[wolf_rt]

very funny wolf_rt

i take it from that the link doesn't work for you? its just a proxy link to the first video

[Rantaak]

Derren Brown is THE MAN!

I feel like it almost goes without saying that authority figures (faces) such as the president and other media puppets would have to be well-versed in things like hypnotism and NLP, as these tools are integral to their role as human beings.
I don't find this news to be disturbing in the least, in fact I take comfort in recognizing the competence that such a man must have in order to effectively use such tools. Some sorcerers talk about having three tools (actually I've never met any who talked about these but these are the three that I have come to recognize in my studies/practices) and they are (in descending order of energetic potency):

The Laugh
The Smile
The Voice

What do these things allow, you ask?
The laugh allows us to transcend energetic subservience by taking back our power via the modulation of breath and sound.
The smile allows us to flex our energetic aura, allowing those who witness such an act to naturally become hypnotized by the desire to connect and feel good. Body language is a symptom of the two aforementioned techniques, as they make use of the pineal gland.
The voice allows us to inflect tone over linguistic meaning, allowing us to spin the emotional subtext of our communications to our desire.

[Lisab]

Pie n Eel showed a really good vid of Derren Brown demonstrating how easy it is to hypnotise somebody into shooting someone, in this case a celebrity. He got an audience member of a Stephen Fry show to 'shoot' Stephen on stage from his seat in the audience. Scary stuff.

As for Obama the jurys still out with me on that one too Dawn. Ive read an interpratation of his birth chart which suggests he really 'believes' himself to be the helper of the world not just America. Is he biding his time or is he deluded? Time will tell I guess.

[Calz]

Pie n Eel showed a really good vid of Derren Brown demonstrating how easy it is to hypnotise somebody into shooting someone, in this case a celebrity. He got an audience member of a Stephen Fry show to 'shoot' Stephen on stage from his seat in the audience. Scary stuff.

As for Obama the jurys still out with me on that one too Dawn. Ive read an interpratation of his birth chart which suggests he really 'believes' himself to be the helper of the world not just America. Is he biding his time or is he deluded? Time will tell I guess.

The majority of the elite psychopaths believe themselves to be helpers of the world as well ...

yes???

[Lisab]

Yes! Also signing the NDAA has scared the crap out of me, I cant lie! I guess the time for telling is now.

[Corncrake]

UK members just go straight to You-tube and put in Derren Brown Trains of Thought - you will find it there. Lots of other interesting stuff by him too.

[ktlight]

Hi, Ria, here you are

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and this is part 2

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[Elixer]

As was pointed out, most if not all leaders or political figures use some forms of linguistic mind control. Some would even say that all speech is such.

There are definite patterns we can easily recognise and all presidents use them. Whenever there is talk of an enemy, they always say "Make no mistake about it." and "That goes for each and every one of you". There are many more like that, but these obvious ones 'spring to mind' ;).

I found the video in the second post quite interesting.
It was also pointed out, that those making the allegations of Obama using NLP, are themselves guilty of doing so. That video especially has some strong characteristics.
The speech in the video is 'droning' and at one point speeds up radically, which is also a technique they describe.

The obvious associations they try to make between Obama and Hitler are, well, disgusting really. They switch back and forth between Obama and Hitler, which might cause one to link them together in order for the mind to have continuity.
'It is well known' that Hitler hypnotized the people, or so we're being told. With this much critisicm levied against him, we can hardly say the same about Barack.

There are some sentences in that video that are exhibiting the very thing they accuse BO of using. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle (cattle) black, I don't know what is.

There are the suggestions that especially highly educated and intelligent people are susceptible to these kinds of techniques. That would make many people susceptible, at least in their own minds. "I'm smart and (somewhat) educated, I must therefore be susceptible." And then susceptible they are, I suppose. I'm not an expert, but there is a deliberate confusion in that idea. You'd expect smart people to more easily recognise manipulation when they see it, whereas as not so smart ones might not be as critical. Confusion is part of the method as well.

I'm not coming to Obama's defense here, since it seems obvious that he is very far from fulfilling any of the promises people felt he represented.

During the campaign he was considered to be an eloquent speaker, but listening to him these days, I feel he's stumbling quite a bit and we might wonder how he ever got elected. So to suggest that he is a masterful mind controller, seems inplausible, but then, maybe I'm smart enough to be susceptible.;)

[wolf_rt]

i would say that the similarities between Obama and Hitler are obvious...

or perhaps it would be better to say the similarities between the 3rd Reich and the 4th Reich... i mean Amerika...

[pyrangello]

If every staged speech or almost all of Obama's speech's are done with a teleprompter all our president is doing is delivering the message with a pendulum. My concerns lie at who is writing the speechs and the language, and more importantly these bills that continue to get introduced out of thin air that are changing the laws of this land in a very radical sense setting the stage for the destruction of this lands and peoples liberty and freedom. Who are these people behind the scenes and should be the real question and where did they come from, I've always said 90% of the worlds population are the genuine good people of the earth, it's the 10% of the population that make the news that are the extreme and are now running these united states. The nuts if you will.

[Ilie Pandia]

I'd be surprised if he (and others) would NOT use NLP and hypnotic speaking.

I mean they teach those things even at very cheap "how to sell" courses, and Obama and his "PR Team" surely have access to the latest "science of this". And he is also helped by the propaganda in the mass media and movies and so on.

As someone wrote before these techniques can be also used to heal. So they are not bad in themselves, but how you use them matters.

Anyway after having a look at this is becomes ever more important to be more and more aware, of your body, of your thoughts, of how you feel and so. Get to know yourself, notice shifts in your patterns... in short become more conscious :)

[Elixer]

I've read through some of the 67 page document (http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf) and it seems to be rampant with hypnotic manipulations. I'll grab a few random ones and use bold font to emphasize. There might be more blatant ones, but these are the ones I found by simply skimming.

I must say, I read the text to find these, without caring to much for what they are actually saying. I'm sure that what they're saying is accurate, but like I said before, it's nothing new and certainly not terribly shocking to find that Obama is using some NLP.

From page 18 of the document, clear use of NLP:

Obama uses a variety of other statements nobody can disagree with as pacing statements.

From the same page:

However, such pacing statements alone are only a small part of the complex hypnotic trance induction Obama intentionally uses.
It is an assumption that he is using it 'intentionally', but when you read it, you might be inclined to accept it as truth.

Same principle on page 20:

Obama knows clearly that his speeches have faulty logic

They have long sentences with few commas that might all serve to confuse the reader and make them less critical of the material, since they just want to get through it. Here's one from page 21.

The hypnotic analysis is simple, angrily pointing while frowning and making emotionally strong points in speeches send the subconscious message of a person in commanding authority over you ordering you to act a certain way.

They use possibility and then build on that to make a point, using the possibility as certainty. Also, they 'mistakenly'(?) leave parentheses open. The reader is waiting for closure that doesn't come.
Bandler uses this a lot as well. He'll start to say something which leads him into a side-story, which he never really finishes and then fails to come back to the original point as well.
I'm not sure what the effect of this is, but I know it is part of the method. From page 26:

The hand gesture can symbolize anything, and it is possible that Obama’s hand gesture of his thumb and forefinger pressed together symbolizes a “C” for change, money, an infinite (hypnotic) connection between himself and the audience (by pointing with his index finger to the audience repeatedly and then emphasizing a point with his two fingers together, and others.
...)

It just goes on and on.
Maybe the authors don't have wicked intent and are just so engaged with hypnosis that they cannot escape using it in their own language.
Very interesting though, this pot calling kettle black thing.

Also of interest is that there seems to be a sudden rise in interest for this type of subject. There is at least one other thread about NLP.
I think it's quite important because it might help us all become more discerning and help us realize and see through the tricks they are trying to play on us. We'd have to be a little careful though, for even as I'm writing this, I'm wondering whether I myself am not using these types of techniques right now. If I am, it's not on purpose. You can trust me on that ;)

[Humble Janitor]

If Obama can use this technology, then why couldn't any other politician? Where are Derren Brown's examples of this technique in other politicians?

Obviously, TPTW need politicians that are gifted speakers and who knows what they do with those that we elect? Perhaps they are real-life Sith lords? Now I'm just being silly.

[Flash]

All, i MEAN ALL ALL ALL politicians have speech writers that know NLP, if by any chance they don't, you don't know about them much because they could not compete. Saying it is criminal to use it for Obama in politics is like saying that drinking water for politicians is criminal. In this case, they should all go to jail. I must say that lots of salesman, lots of advertisers, most psychologists, know it as well.

Milton Erikson was using NLP not knowing exactly what he was doing that was working. It is by being studied that it was discovered that he had a technique. Just to say that charimastic leaders use some techniques naturally, without even being aware of. When ones knows the techniques, we can decipher easily who uses them for a personal advantage (they are often not that agile and it is misapplied) and who uses it naturally, this is part of its charisma.

The second video was in the category of using NLOP for its own advantage: the maker of the video did.

I was taking a course in non verbal language at the time of Obama's elections with world renown professionals in the field and we analysed Obama's videos at the time. To our greatest surprise, his non verbal behavior `WAS coherent with his speech patterns, meaning he believed in what he said. We did the same with McCain and lots discrepancies were found.

My bet: Obama had the surprise of his life when elected president, he did not know in which nest of real vipers he had fallen. I wonder if the non verbal would still be coherent with the speech patterns by now.

So, please, just wake up AMERICAN and the world: we are being fooled almost 100% of the time with advertisers, salesman, bankers (we did not know about the fragilities of the system), with NLP and many other much more pervasive techniques. NLP is the bottom eaisest stuff to learn about, so just do it and look for something yet more controlling.

PLEASE do not forget that NLP was created for helping people and still does help quite a lot of people

[Elixer]

As someone wrote before these techniques can be also used to heal.
So they are not bad in themselves, but how you use them matters.

Like Erickson who used it in his therapy sessions.
I would agree with that if it was like the example of a gun: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people".
However, NLP is a hidden manipulation. It is secretive and that makes it much more suspect.

Look at Derren Brown. He is good. He is entertaining. But he is able to make someone shoot someone else, he is able to buy an expensive piece of jewelry and not pay for it. NLP is a method that is designed explicitly to trick people.

What about the Free Masons? They are also known to do good works. Just the fact that they operate in secret, makes them suspect.

[Flash]

Hi, Ria, here you are

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and this is part 2

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Derren Brown is very good at using a simple technique. when you make use of many senses at the same time that you ask a mental work, (touch the person, make he see visual stuff like follow one and in the air, talk to her - auditory - ask for some mental processing) and there you are, the brain short circuit and the person enters into an hypnotic transe. That simple but needs practice.

PLEASE do not forget that NLP was created for helping people and still does help quite a lot of people

[jackovesk]

I'd be surprised if he (and others) would NOT use NLP and hypnotic speaking.

I mean they teach those things even at very cheap "how to sell" courses, and Obama and his "PR Team" surely have access to the latest "science of this". And he is also helped by the propaganda in the mass media and movies and so on.



Correct Ilie,

I have done NLP and rest assured Obama is not only trained in this process, but he also has been trained in higher level 'Empathetic Language & Delivery' i.e. using certain language delivered through different voice tones...

One of the reasons Obama got the Presidential Gig, was because of his training...

His speeches are always carefully crafted by the best in the business, and delivered in an always calm empathetic monotone, hence why Obama has always preferred to use a 'Teleprompter' which also allows him to use his body language to great effect...

Knowing all this taught me very early on in his Political Career that he was nothing but a 'Fraud'..!

Empathetic 'Doublespeak' sucks the 'Sheeple' in every time..!

If his administration were coming around to someones house to 'Kill Them', Obama would have the 'Sheeple' believing their only coming around for a routine inspection and some 'Milk & Cookies'..! i.e. NDAA..!

He's one SICK - SLICK - BIG DADDY - MURDERING (CRIMINAL) MOFO..! And he's still got the 'Sheeple' fooled..! How 'SICK' is that..!

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi,

I've deleted all the posts on this thread that were off-topic and were getting very very close to personal attacks!

Please post only related to the OP and be respectful towards your fellow Avalonians.

:focus:

[crested-duck]

http://larouchepac.com/node/21049 he's got to go now!

[BestLion]

Probably not. But who cares and what will that change? He was likely born in Africa.So what he has one year left. Like it will do anything anyway

[trenairio]

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[modwiz]

With so many treasonous members of government, the citizenship of the POTUS is a distraction. He can hang next to the rest of the traitors to the people.

[Snowbird]

The first link wont show, this might be because I am UK based. the second gives a lot of accusation and not enough demonstration. that dose not mean there is not foundation. Any one who is anyone, will have training, in delivering speeches, how to dress, how to engage, how to field questions, its a given. It is the MOTIVE behind the man, can we see it, do we know what it is, is he running with the bad boys to catch them out, or is he just one of them.

Click on this link Ria. This is an excellent video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bkleuxpvxY

[TargeT]

Incidentally, this came up before on the old forum - I just dug out the reference. My analysis is there and I stand by it. Some cool comments by older members.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14289


Interesting...

Amplify your powers of discrimination by invoking the power, light and wisdom of your higher self or if you prefer it the one infinite creator, or whatever spiritual guide you feel in tune with - they will all help if asked.

A..

Jeez I dont change much do I ... LOL

You know what?

I think I'm starting to disagree, I think we can no longer ignore "little evils" because they are not big enough.

Language is magic.

I can make magic happen, I can walk into a room of people and say one word and gather the attention of atleast 90 % of them (depending on crowd make up)

We need to ADMIT the power that we hold over eachother is rooted in language, we have been so desensitized to our own power that we assume since somoneis just midly trying to manipulate us its ok, because its obvious, its not.

(now, I must say that this is in reguards to Obama's speach & how it was full of basicaly blantant lies.. again, we have to look to intent) when the intent is bad no level of magic (words) used against me are acceptable.

Think of the power we have, we can make a few subtle vibrations in air and **** HAPPENS! I can make this 130lb fanged beast do what ever I want by wiggling some cords in my throat....
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/zTargeTz/4b552789.jpg

It's all about perspective right, I feel that our perspective has been so over saturated that the "magic" is gone from our lives and we forget the power we wield and ignore the powers being wielded on us for the same reason.

[Dawn]

I am very glad I started this thread! The imput here is very valuable. Basically we need to be aware of how we can be easily manipulated! And not just by a 'great orator' such as Obama, but also by others. Perhaps what is really scary is those who have closed off their critical thinking and decision to remain aware by making a firm unshakable decision that someone such as this powerful man "Is Wonderful".

Perhaps the most important thing to see here is that we can keep our conscious awareness alive, or shut it down by adopting a point of view. Once a decision is made that 'something is ________', then we often bring all our resources into play to prove our point of view, instead of being open to discovering what is actually happening.


Humble Janitor: If Obama can use this technology, then why couldn't any other politician? Where are Derren Brown's examples of this technique in other politicians?

Obviously, TPTW need politicians that are gifted speakers and who knows what they do with those that we elect?


Target: Language is magic.

I can make magic happen, I can walk into a room of people and say one word and gather the attention of atleast 90 % of them (depending on crowd make up)

We need to ADMIT the power that we hold over eachother is rooted in language, we have been so desensitized to our own power that we assume since somoneis just midly trying to manipulate us its ok, because its obvious, its not.

This might be right, we are desensitized to our own power, and that of those around us.

[TargeT]

From recently studying trantric philosophy I've learned the concept of regaining sensitivity through depriving that which is desired. it seems counter intuitive, but is that not what free willl is? free will is the only thing I can think of that can counteract "the inevitable" the most random of randoms... it makes a lot of sense to me.... how BORING would it be to be omnipotient.... is this not the best video game concievable? think of the drama we experience, the rollercoaster of emotion, the depraviity of searial murder and ritual kiling, of genocide and rationless hate compared to the hight of joy and happyness, child birth and first steps, of first love and passion and reward of great achievement, of helping others and spreading love.

even our bodies reinforce this fact, we can only experince one thing at a time, how else would Lamaze (sp) work for labor pain, this is discribed as one of the most painful experiences possible yet focused BREATHING can negate it? how powerful is our conciousness, how much are we ignoring, how much are we encouraged to ignore?

question everything

[Sirius White]

I knew this too the moment I saw him becoming popular :P

Reason being, because he would be saying something actually quite threatening to the sovereignty of the US, and even I, for a split second was like "oh yes, nice that makes sense." I actually had do a DOUBLE take! That never happens to me. At that moment I knew he was using misleading techniques/language, and he was not what he was pretending to be.

Furthermore, any time the mainstream media has billions of dollars invested in the making of a "Messiah" and also, a type of "JFK/Lincoln" figure (for Christ sakes, have you seen an inauguration like that for anybody else??)- I know SOMETHING is wrong.

I watched people march in the streets with joy thinkin they had ended the Tyranny of Bush! I cried myself that night, knowing that I was helpless. That nobody would listen to me anyways. I cried because I knew what was in store for us. That people like Bush were not there to be Tyrants or take over the world, he is not believable enough. I knew everything Bush had done was to "set up" for future leaders/dictators to have more power than ever. He was merely the "painted bad guy" target that made way for people like Obama to appear like "heroes."

I remember on David Wilcock's forum everyone thought he was the reincarnation of Akhenathon and the heralder of the New Age, when I told them exactly what he was the "herald" of I was censored, told that my view conflicted with everyone else on that site.

Basically, the dude is a puppet, and he is making a puppet of you (the people, not anyone here specifically). It was obvious when they were telling me about his past life and everyone treated him like he was some sort of "destined" being that this was a type of programming and conditioning.

These people are smart and think ahead.

This is why I'm worried about Ron Paul. Don't you think they've prepared for this? He would be the ultimate trojan horse.

[music]

Obama has been shown to be a liar over the second "death" of Osama. Recall the ready room shot, with Obama, Clinton and various stuffed shirts and uniforms watching the "fenzied firefight", Obama discussing this, mentioning the "fog of war"? When I saw the first footage of the compound, I said straight away "frenzied firefight my arse - where are the bullet holes in the walls?" The later story changed as lie upon lie was exposed, to the eventual two shots only were fired. So Obama watched these two shots being fired, and called it a firefight? Obama's only role in the US is to allay racial tensions (rioting and discontent by ethnic groups are widely under-reported by MSM, for obvious reasons) until the time is right for whatever "they" have in mind. I feel sorry for him. He is a tool that will be discarded (probably via the tinder-box spark of assassination) when his usefulness is over.

Look at Obama's eyes, in a good facial close up. My opinion is that he himself is severly mind-controlled - the eyes never lie. Clinton also. The cracks are showing in both of them. Watch them carefully during crisis times when they have had little sleep, you can see the lack of functional humanity quite clearly in their faces, even if you refuse to see it in their words and actions.

Also, read this rationally: don't let white guilt cloud your vision. The way for human harmony is walking in Love, not wading through the burden of guilt left to us by earlier generations of proto NWO agendists.

[jackovesk]

I knew this too the moment I saw him becoming popular :P

Reason being, because he would be saying something actually quite threatening to the sovereignty of the US, and even I, for a split second was like "oh yes, nice that makes sense." I actually had do a DOUBLE take! That never happens to me. At that moment I knew he was using misleading techniques/language, and he was not what he was pretending to be.

Furthermore, any time the mainstream media has billions of dollars invested in the making of a "Messiah" and also, a type of "JFK/Lincoln" figure (for Christ sakes, have you seen an inauguration like that for anybody else??)- I know SOMETHING is wrong.

I watched people march in the streets with joy thinkin they had ended the Tyranny of Bush! I cried myself that night, knowing that I was helpless. That nobody would listen to me anyways. I cried because I knew what was in store for us. That people like Bush were not there to be Tyrants or take over the world, he is not believable enough. I knew everything Bush had done was to "set up" for future leaders/dictators to have more power than ever. He was merely the "painted bad guy" target that made way for people like Obama to appear like "heroes."

I remember on David Wilcock's forum everyone thought he was the reincarnation of Akhenathon and the heralder of the New Age, when I told them exactly what he was the "herald" of I was censored, told that my view conflicted with everyone else on that site.

Basically, the dude is a puppet, and he is making a puppet of you (the people, not anyone here specifically). It was obvious when they were telling me about his past life and everyone treated him like he was some sort of "destined" being that this was a type of programming and conditioning.

These people are smart and think ahead.

This is why I'm worried about Ron Paul. Don't you think they've prepared for this? He would be the ultimate trojan horse.

:bump:

I have censored myself for any further commentary, due to getting off topic..!

The 'Truth' is a bitch aint it..!

Well said Sirius White.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The top level puppet masters are unknown to me. Some say their names are so secret we would not recognize them. The top level suspects (of almost common knowledge) would be the Rothschild and Rockefeller families. I am sure they know the names of their masters, if only the next layer up.

[Leon]

As said many times now NWO = 3rd Reich

just the methods are different

[jackovesk]

January 4, 2012

More evidence Obama is at war with the Constitution – or more accurately, his globalist masters are at war with it. The following is from The Hill (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/banking-financial-institutions/202305-gop-leaders-blast-recess-appoint-as-unprecedented-power-grab) today:

Republican leaders in the House and Senate are blasting President Obama’s move to recess-appoint a key nominee as an “unprecedented power grab.”

http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/obama_dictator1.jpg

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said the president “arrogantly circumvented the American people” in his effort to recess-appoint a key nominee and argued the move “fundamentally endangers” Congress’s ability to check the “excesses of the executive branch.”

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) called the effort an “extraordinary and entirely unprecedented power grab … [that] would have a devastating effect on the checks and balances that are enshrined in our constitution.”

Article Two, Clause 3 of the Constitution on recess appointments reads as follows:

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. (Emphasis added.)

The Senate is not currently in recess. It is in a “pro forma” session, in other words a session that is not considering formal business. Senate Republicans did this to prevent Obama from appointing Richard Cordray as head of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau during recess.

But the Obama administration went ahead anyway. “They have decided no one can stop them,” said a Democrat in the know.

“This is a blatant violation of the Constitution and he’s doing it simply to pick a fight with congressional Republicans and energize his base,” writes the Ace of Spades HQ blog.

It looks like Obama will get away with it. Republicans are more or less powerless to stop this violation of the Constitution, especially with an election coming up. If they try a lawsuit or hearings on impeachment, it will feed right into Obama’s re-election machine. His re-election campaign will focus on taking Republicans to task for their perceived foot dragging on his economic measures supposedly designed to get a dead-in-the-water economy moving again.

Beyond partisan politics, though, the move is designed serve as another blow to the Constitution. As we noted in July, there is currently a concerted effort underway to portray the Constitution as antiquated, outdated and even ridiculous.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-is-at-war-with-the-constitution.html

[jackovesk]

Ruling denies Obama’s attempt to have complaint that seeks to strike President from Georgia ballot dismissed

Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Birthers are hailing a decision by a judge in Georgia that could see Barack Obama struck from the presidential state ballot if Obama fails to prove that he fulfils the ‘natural born citizen’ constitutional requirement to be President.

http://videos.usatoday.net/29906170001/29906170001_1363754018001_0103dv-pol-obama-dems-400x300.jpg?pubId=29906170001

“Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi in the Office of State Administrative Hearings denied a motion by Obama asking to dismiss the complaint that seeks to keep his name off the state ballot during the March presidential primary. The judge’s decision now sets the stage for a Jan. 26 hearing on the issue in Fulton County,” reports the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer (http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/01/04/1880356/georgia-judge-to-hear-arguments.html).

The complaint was originally filed by Orly Taitz on behalf of a Georgia resident. Taitz, a prominent ‘birther’ who previously represented two soldiers who refused to deploy to Afghanistan over their doubts that Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible to be commander in chief, lauded the judge’s ruling.

“I can now depose Obama and everybody else (i)nvolved without any impediment,” the California attorney posted on her website.

Taitz, along with several other Georgia residents, will now be able to present their evidence that Obama was not born in the United States in a court of law – unless the ruling is overturned on appeal before January 26.

The case, Farrar v Obama, was also brought by J. Mark Hatfield, a Republican state representative who last year failed to pass a bill that would have required presidential candidates to submit proof of qualifications.

“The Georgia Election Code (the “Code”) mandates that “[e]very candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought,” stated the ruling in response to President Obama’s attempt to have the case dismissed.

Despite the White House being forced to release a purported copy of Obama’s birth certificate last year, the controversy has yet to completely die down.

One time Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump repeatedly raised questions surrounding Obama’s background during the spring of 2011 before going cold on the issue, a move prominent ‘birther’ and author Jerome Corsi claimed was an organized political stunt to neutralize the issue.

The release of Corsi’s best-selling book, Where’s the Birth Certificate?, coincided with the White House deciding to release Obama’s alleged long form birth certificate. Corsi points to evidence that the document is a forgery created using modern computer techniques and has numerous discrepancies with a genuine 1961 birth certificate created by a typewriter.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/birthers-hail-judges-decision-that-could-depose-obama.html

[DreamsInDigital]

Wasn't it someone that pointed out that when Obama filed for Financial Aid in College that he filed as a Foreign Born student?

[humanalien]

I hope obama loses the case. I'd like to
see how fast they throw him out of
the white house.

[DreamsInDigital]

The votes have been there for a while to impeach Obama. The Unfortunate thing is, the pentagon which isn't primarily influenced by the Cabal just haven't decided yet what to do "After" they take him out, which is why also they haven't "made their move" to "take out the trash" with the rest of the cabal that are embedded in the government.

[161803398]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTJGCEsh-Q=player_embedded

[Sirius White]

I knew this too the moment I saw him becoming popular :P

Reason being, because he would be saying something actually quite threatening to the sovereignty of the US, and even I, for a split second was like "oh yes, nice that makes sense." I actually had do a DOUBLE take! That never happens to me. At that moment I knew he was using misleading techniques/language, and he was not what he was pretending to be.

Furthermore, any time the mainstream media has billions of dollars invested in the making of a "Messiah" and also, a type of "JFK/Lincoln" figure (for Christ sakes, have you seen an inauguration like that for anybody else??)- I know SOMETHING is wrong.

I watched people march in the streets with joy thinkin they had ended the Tyranny of Bush! I cried myself that night, knowing that I was helpless. That nobody would listen to me anyways. I cried because I knew what was in store for us. That people like Bush were not there to be Tyrants or take over the world, he is not believable enough. I knew everything Bush had done was to "set up" for future leaders/dictators to have more power than ever. He was merely the "painted bad guy" target that made way for people like Obama to appear like "heroes."

I remember on David Wilcock's forum everyone thought he was the reincarnation of Akhenathon and the heralder of the New Age, when I told them exactly what he was the "herald" of I was censored, told that my view conflicted with everyone else on that site.

Basically, the dude is a puppet, and he is making a puppet of you (the people, not anyone here specifically). It was obvious when they were telling me about his past life and everyone treated him like he was some sort of "destined" being that this was a type of programming and conditioning.

These people are smart and think ahead.

This is why I'm worried about Ron Paul. Don't you think they've prepared for this? He would be the ultimate trojan horse.

:bump:

I have censored myself for any further commentary, due to getting off topic..!

The 'Truth' is a bitch aint it..!

Well said Sirius White.


It still is.

I can't even watch the elections.

On one hand I'm experiencing incredible spiritual things, and knowledge.

On the otherhand I'm watching an "fake" televised play on TV, so called "elections" and everyone eats it up!

Question it, and you are "weird." What an odd world!

[toad]

180 days to go into affect. :(

[Vitalux]

This is the point where all Good Americans should take to the streets ....to save their republic. ...American ...your house is on fire....dont let it burn

[toad]

This is the point where all Good Americans should take to the streets ....to save their republic. ...American ...your house is on fire....dont let it burn

We go to the streets and then are reluctant to be called 'threats' and we all get a nice trip to cuba. :(

[Words of Joy]

White House Denies CIA Teleported Obama to Mars

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2012/01/obamamarsmission.jpg

Forget Kenya. Never mind the secret madrassas. The sinister, shocking truth about Barack Obama’s past lies not in east Africa, but in outer space. As a young man in the early 1980s, Obama was part of a secret CIA project to explore Mars. The future president teleported there, along with the future head of Darpa.

That’s the assertion, at least, of a pair of self-proclaimed time-traveling, universe-exploring government agents. Andrew D. Basiago and William Stillings insist that they once served as “chrononauts” at Darpa’s behest, traversing the boundaries of time and space. They swear: A youthful Barack Obama was one of them.

Perhaps this all sounds fantastical, absurd, and more than a little nuts. We couldn’t agree more. That’s one of the reasons we love conspiracy theories — the more awesomely insane, the better. Each week during 2012, when the Mayans tell us to expect the apocalypse (http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm), Danger Room will peel back a new layer of crazy to expose those oh-so-cleverly hidden machinations powering this doomed plane of existence. Welcome — back (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/09/tinfoil-tuesdays-ufos-neutered-nukes-air-force-officers-claim/) — to Tinfoil Tuesday.

According to Basiago and Stillings, Obama isn’t just lying about his identity. He’s lying about his military service record, too. While his political opponents in 2008 attacked him for never serving, in truth, he was concealing his participation in a hidden CIA intergalactic program hosted at a California community college (http://www.siskiyous.edu/) in 1980.

Officially, the White House says Obama never went to Mars. “Only if you count watching Marvin the Martian,” Tommy Vietor, the spokesman for the National Security Council, tells Danger Room. But that’s exactly what a secret chrononaut wants you to believe.

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Obama wasn’t the only one making the otherworldly voyage. As “Barry Soetero,” the 19-year-old Obama was one of 10 youths selected to secretly teleport to and from Mars, forming a band of interplanetary Teen Titans (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/titans/index.html). Regina Dugan, the director of Darpa (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/11/darpa-hackers-cybersecurity/), was another member.

Between 1981 and 1983, Obama is supposed to have visited Mars twice, by way of a teleportation chamber called a “jump room.” Basiago, a fellow chrononaut, told the website Exopolitics that he saw Obama “walk back to the jump room from across the Martian terrain. (http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/11/mars-visitors-basiago-and-stillings-confirm-barack-obama-traveled-to-mars-1.html)” To acknowledge his comrade, Obama is said to have told Basiago, “We’re here” — apparently, “with some sense of fatalism.”

It is not known what exactly Obama did on Mars. (Socializing Martian health care, perhaps? Building a birth-certificate printing press?) His mission was a perilous one, according to Basiago and Stillings. The CIA wished to “establish a defense regime protecting the Earth from threats from space” as well as a legal claim to “territorial sovereignty,” making Obama something of a Martian conquistador. Presumably, Obama’s CIA handlers needed him to “acclimate Martian humanoids and animals to their presence” in order to secure the U.S.-Martian alliance. (We’ll bet you weren’t even aware of Martian animals.)

“Simply put, your task is to be seen and not eaten,” an elder chrononaut, retired Army Maj. Ed Dames, is alleged to have told a young Obama.

You can scoff at the idea of Obama on Mars. But it explains a lot. Obviously the birth-certificate controversy is a side effect of Obama forgetting to sufficiently establish his fake identity as he learned to manipulate time and space. (Dugan has a demonstrated record of supporting space travel (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/nerds-darpa-wants-your-advice-on-interstellar-flight/); the “jump room” must be broken.) And who else but a man accustomed to keeping the country’s most explosive secret would be comfortable waging so many undeclared wars (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/white-house-al-qaida-is-toast/)? Ignore Basiago and Stillings at your own peril. If Obama’s reelected, the U.S. is finally colonizing Mars.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/obama-mars/

[DreamsInDigital]

Here's the next headline. "White House Continues To Deny Existence Of UFO's/Aliens, While The Rest Of The World Sits Down and Has Tea with Extraterrestrials." Film at 11pm. :ufo:

The White House wouldn't be denying it if it wasn't true. ;)

The only real problem is, in 1989 the Orion Empire returned to Mars, Slaughtered everyone that wasn't a member of The Orion Empire, and took back their planet. US Government hasn't been to Mars since.

[mountain_jim]

I do appreciate you bringing this Wired coverage to my attention. :)

It seems to me that Basagio's claims in this area without any evidence support the view that his mind and memory may have been compromised. That or he's in the veritable stratosphere of disinfo purveyers.

And I stared at those Mars pictures for a good bit, trying to see the things he claimed were so obvious within them, when first I was introduced to his tales.

[Earth Angel]

I love this stuff but it makes me wonder why we have to have a disclaimer whenever anyone posts channeled information on this site .... blows my mind.....we talk about the most out there things all through this forum and yet we have to protect people from something channeled

[161803398]

We go to the streets and then are reluctant to be called 'threats' and we all get a nice trip to cuba.

Cuba is a small island...they can't fit all of you in there. Make them put their money where their mouth is.

[Lost Soul]

Anyone here still believe he is a light worker?

[Logan]

Hilarious story on Wired.

I enjoyed listening to Basiago a great deal. Is he telling the truth? Who knows? I sure don't. Is it entertaining at least? Oh yeah, quite entertaining. Unless anyone here has been teleported to Mars I am guessing none of you know if he's telling the truth either, but I don't want to seem crass or appear that I'm making assumptions.

While posting here and reading these stories I keep my mind open like a parachute. I do retain my odd sense of humor, and that photoshop of Obama on Mars was admittely pretty funny.

[mountain_jim]

I admit I don't know the truth, and find the tales interesting. I also watched Stargate SG1 early seasons to see if there might be some disclosure in there.

The 'view' I was speaking of supporting was, if memory serves, Bill's take on what Basiagio knows or believes, finding him being sincere and (Basiagio) believing what he says but not necessarily speaking truth. That's my recollection of Bill's response, in any case.

[13th Warrior]

The White House statement can easily be true; if it wasn't the "CIA" who sent Obama to Mars...

[bodhii71]

Is there a link to the "official" statement made by the White House?
I wasn't able to find anything relevant.
Thanks.

[mojo]

Thank you ktlight very informative and worth a watch, especially how Alex Jones explains it. Everything seems to be moving forward as planned.
*FEMA camp contractor bids go out this past fall
*President signs martial law bill
*Only one thing missing...you!...Without sounding fear based, would it make sense to not go on the round-up?

edit: Follow FEMA on twitter! ...friend us on Facebook!...lol
73A78YCrhN0

[jackovesk]

We Are Going To Kill The US Dollar says Obama Administration

Jan 2, 2012

A clip from a much longer interview...
http://youtu.be/5V3kpKzd-Yw


Investor Kyle Bass discloses his discussion with a senior Obama admin about how this economic crisis is going to play out. The answer is to export our way out of this mess by making our exports cheaper by destroying the dollar in a global game of currency devaluation. This simply means that they are going to print more and more dollars until all of your purchasing power is destroyed and you will need more and more dollars to buy the same amount of goods. (ie. Massive Inflation.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7H2JFuZ4wg

PS - Want to find out WHY they are going to do it..?

Check out this Thread...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37577-Lindsey-Williams-on-Alex-Jones-with-BIG-ELITIST-NEWS

[GlassSteagallfan]

Bruce Fein: Obama is God and Due Process is Dead

January 8, 2012 • 8:47AM

Constitutional lawyer Bruce Fein, who has called publicly for Obama's impeachment, has penned a devastating psychological attack on the President, which appeared on Jan. 5th on The Daily Caller website. The brief article focused on Obama's authority to determine the life or death "of every creature on the planet," with Congress' total acquiescence.

The full text is worth reprinting here:

God Is Alive, Due Process is Dead

by Bruce Fein

Nietzsche stumbled.

God is alive. Due process is dead.

President Barack Obama is God. He holds the power of life and death over every creature on the planet.

The Roman Senate waited until Caesar Augustus's death for deification.

The United States Congress, by nonfeasance and appalling irresponsibility, has deified President Obama during his White House tenure.

Through the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 and acquiescence in repeated executive usurpations, Congress has empowered President Obama to kill any person anywhere in the world who is secretly listed as an enemy on a list that's reminiscent of the Lord High Executioner's Little List in The Mikado. The putative battlefield is boundless. The standards for listing are secret. The evidence justifying a listing is secret. The legal justification for the assassinations is secret. The secrecy persists after the alleged enemy target is vaporized. No proof is proffered that the corpse had conspired or attempted or had actually engaged in hostilities against the United States; or, that capturing the victim for criminal prosecution or detention would have been unfeasible. Instead, the White House summons into being as its defense a counter-constitutional divine doctrine of presidential infallibility when it comes to killing suspected enemies. Due process is buried in the detritus of collateral damage.

But enshrined in Article 39 of the Magna Carta, due process is the very wellspring of civilization—the most important concept in the history of mankind. It recognizes that humans are prone to err. Cravings for money, power, domination, fame and vanity routinely distort truth-telling. Events or actions are multi-dimensional, not one-dimensional, and lend themselves to competing rational interpretations. Justice and human dignity alike require listening to all relevant parties before decisions are forthcoming. Due process should be honored because of what it says about us as a people. It is not saluted as a concession to enemy suspects.

When Russian President Vladimir Putin killed opponent Alexander Litvinenko with Polonium poisoning in London, the assassination was censured in the United States as tyranny. When Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei assassinated Shapour Bakhtier, the last prime minister under the shah, the killing was assailed in the United States as state-sponsored terrorism. But when United States citizens Anwar al-Awlaki, Samir Khan and al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son were assassinated by President Obama in 2011 with predator drones, the United States applauded with virtually inaudible dissent.

In George Orwell's Animal Farm, all animals were equal, but some were more equal than others. In the United States Empire, all assassinations are equal, but assassinations perpetrated by the United States president are innocent, while assassinations perpetrated by others are criminal.

The Roman historian Tacitus observed as the Roman Republic surrendered to the Roman Empire: "The worst crimes were dared by a few, willed by more and tolerated by all." Ecclesiastes 1:9 NIV was prescient: "[T]here is nothing new under the sun."

Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan, 1981-83, and is author of American Empire Before The Fall.


Source: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/21106

[Mike Gorman]

This is a considerable act of honesty, despite the obvious clash of political polarity, I think
this is definitely asserting that The Emperor is quite naked...bravo!

[Dawn]

Music: I can't even watch the elections.

On one hand I'm experiencing incredible spiritual things, and knowledge.

On the otherhand I'm watching an "fake" televised play on TV, so called "elections" and everyone eats it up!

Question it, and you are "weird." What an odd world!

Music, I'm in your shoes exactly. I can't even watch Obama speak, I feel so angry when I notice the manipulation, and I also feel a deep sense of grief for humanity. When I have spoken out, I have been verbally attacked. In fact, I presented a well written article on Avalon about his birth certificate on a thread a little while ago, and the very first poster roasted me over the coals in an attempt to 'shoot the messenger'. This person said I should know better for posting lies about such a wonderful president who was one of 'us light workers'.

Once anyone has made up their mind and taken a firm position, it seems they are prone to entrench themselves. At that point they attack anyone who disagrees and will not even open their ears to listen to other points of view. I'm afraid that is one of the main problems, once someone 'makes up their mind' they become BLIND. And there you have it, a world full of blind people, run by their minds which have taken them over.

There is definitely something to being IN the world but not OF the world. What can we do but love those deluded and asleep people who, for some unknown reason, cannot wake up? Thank you Music for having the courage to express yourself so eloquently.

[music]

Music: I can't even watch the elections.

On one hand I'm experiencing incredible spiritual things, and knowledge.

On the otherhand I'm watching an "fake" televised play on TV, so called "elections" and everyone eats it up!

Question it, and you are "weird." What an odd world!

Music, I'm in your shoes exactly. I can't even watch Obama speak, I feel so angry when I notice the manipulation, and I also feel a deep sense of grief for humanity. When I have spoken out, I have been verbally attacked. In fact, I presented a well written article on Avalon about his birth certificate on a thread a little while ago, and the very first poster roasted me over the coals in an attempt to 'shoot the messenger'. This person said I should know better for posting lies about such a wonderful president who was one of 'us light workers'.

Once anyone has made up their mind and taken a firm position, it seems they are prone to entrench themselves. At that point they attack anyone who disagrees and will not even open their ears to listen to other points of view. I'm afraid that is one of the main problems, once someone 'makes up their mind' they become BLIND. And there you have it, a world full of blind people, run by their minds which have taken them over.

There is definitely something to being IN the world but not OF the world. What can we do but love those deluded and asleep people who, for some unknown reason, cannot wake up? Thank you Music for having the courage to express yourself so eloquently.

Thanks, but you were quoting Sirius White !! :)

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Before Obama was elected David Icke put out a video showing the hypnosis techniques he used and warning U.S. citizens not to vote for him. I couldn't find it on youtube ~ maybe someone else can.

As to why all politicians don't use these techniques: Many of them probably do, but just as some of us can take piano lessons for years and still be amateurs and others by the age of six can be quite proficient ~ perhaps that's Obama's special talent and it was seen early by those who watch these things.

[conk]

Not only killing, but simply the taking of "prisoners". Any one can be pushed into a black car and hauled off to god knows where, forever, without charges, without trial, without telling anyone. People will begin to understand when it is them in the car.

[161803398]

"In a nutshell, there seems to be a solicitation of bids occurring for the staffing of FEMA camps within 72 hours of implementation by an order from either Homeland Security or the president. This situation begs to be investigated, with special consideration paid to the motives of the present administration"


http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/new_nationwide_fema_camps_should_raise_eyebrows.html

[The One]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NlnBs7G6lTM/Tw0RlHX-WyI/AAAAAAAACzY/-j9bg71A6jY/s400/UFO%252C+UFOs%252C+sighting%252C+sightings%252C+Hilo%252C+airport%252C+Hawaii%252C+dec%252C+december %252C+2011%252C+Obama%252C+President%252C+orb%252C+orbs%252C+alien%252C+aliens%252C+MIB%252C+secret% 252C+justin+bieber%252C+lady+gaga%252C+space%252C+et%252C+mothershipScreen+Shot+2012-01-11+at+12.16.42+PM.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LeyiJuFpOQQ/Tw0Ro-EkxQI/AAAAAAAACzg/6MFCvNMHkf4/s400/UFO%252C+UFOs%252C+sighting%252C+sightings%252C+Hilo%252C+airport%252C+Hawaii%252C+dec%252C+december %252C+2011%252C+Obama%252C+President%252C+orb%252C+orbs%252C+alien%252C+aliens%252C+MIB%252C+secret% 252C+justin+bieber%252C+lady+gaga%252C+space%252C+et%252C+mothershipScreen+Shot+2012-01-11+at+12.28.25+PM.png

Date of sighting: December 25, 2011
Location of sighting: Hilo Airport, Hawaii


Eyewitness states: "Just hours before President Obama arrived in Hawaii. UFO footage Dec 25, 2011."


Its an easy thing to jump to conclusions that this is fake, especially since it is such good detail and so close up, but with todays technology of zoom and quality of video, don't be expecting fuzzy UFO videos anymore.


The things that make be believe this UFO sighting is FIRST, there are three videos of this UFO over the Hilo airport, not just one. There are no strings or people under it that proves its not a kite. Also when looking at the video in slow motion, I notice that when the UFO moved behind the sign, it was not visible in front of the sign...meaning its not been altered, its raw footage and its real



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[w00tl00ps]

wow It reminds me of the top of our electric poles here the shape any way. It looks similar to the new military drones.Cool video thanks for sharing :)

[Robstar]

Hello. Thank you for posting.
I normally don't respond on this forum anymore due to living life and i don't call out a video for being fake or not. I usually keep it to myself now a days.
However I was in Hilo on December 25 and i was right behind the tree line next to the airport on the first shot of this video. It was a day off so I was there spending the day surfing and taking pictures of the surf-line. No one saw anything other than human aircrafts.
The Hilo international airport happens to be next to a beach park (Keaukaha Beach Park) and a great surfing spot. You can clearly see the airport from the beach and the aircraft landing and leaving. What we did see (all week) where lots of C-17 globemaster airforce transport planes coming in, and also what is called Airforce2 a standby for Airforce 1 (both are identical planes).
What gets me about this video is that you can clearly see the wing tips that are 90 degrees on the later shots. A particular look that is too close to the actual aircraft of the day. The other thing is that the video was uploaded on the 24th of December and the claims are from the 25th of December.
Thank you for your postings and please keep searching. Good luck
http://www.flightschoollist.com/aviation-articles/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/boeing-c-17-globemaster-3-4.jpg

[RMorgan]

Hi my friend,

Well, I´m not sure if I´ve already told you, but this you tube channel, thirdphaseofthemoon, has been debunked many many times. They are hoaxers. All of their videos are hoaxed.

Cheers,

Raf.

[jimmer]

here's another drone-like craft from third phase of the moon (3:30 mark).
there are more there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmc3GM3abY&feature=relmfu

frankly, they lost credibility with me a while ago
with stuff like this and the site's commercialism...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ifhOgriECY

here's someone that agrees with me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A52p0-RTqI

[childs hood end]

the real question,,,,,,,, is blake the HULK?,,,,,,, looks like hes gonna morph

[baddbob]

Which Obama is right for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3lnETHlzu48

[Humble Janitor]

I feel ashamed to befriend someone like you.

I don't like this video. It's vaguely racist.

[Words of Joy]

I don't like this video. It's vaguely racist.

Racist? I looked at the video knowing you have that opinion, but after a first look I don't know why you think that. Care to contemplate? :)

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I feel ashamed to befriend someone like you.

I don't like this video. It's vaguely racist.

Wait how is it racist? for real I don't see it. We used to see cartoon caricatures of W all the time with exaggerated features and big ears and all that. That is a serious charge and I hope you have a coherent argument to defend it.

[risveglio]

I feel ashamed to befriend someone like you.

I don't like this video. It's vaguely racist.

Wait how is it racist? for real I don't see it. We used to see cartoon caricatures of W all the time with exaggerated features and big ears and all that. That is a serious charge and I hope you have a coherent argument to defend it.

Don't you know that any criticism of Obama is racist?

[baddbob]

I feel ashamed to befriend someone like you.

I don't like this video. It's vaguely racist.

Lol its not my fault he has big ears:ear: . some of my best friends have big ears

[baddbob]

OMG ! you actually did befriend me lighten up and try to seperate humor from racism

Pulitzer Prize-winner, Mark Fiore, who the Wall Street Journal has called “the undisputed guru of the form,” creates animated political cartoons in San Francisco, where his work has been featured on the San Francisco Chronicle’s web site, SFGate.com, for over ten years. His work also appears on Newsweek.com, Slate.com, CBSNews.com, MotherJones.com and NPR’s web site. Fiore’s political animation has appeared on CNN, Frontline, Bill Moyers Journal, Salon.com and cable and broadcast outlets across the globe.

Beginning his professional life by drawing traditional political cartoons for newspapers, Fiore’s work appeared in publications ranging from the Washington Post to the Los Angeles Times. In the late 1990s, he began to experiment with animating political cartoons and, after a short stint at the San Jose Mercury News as their staff cartoonist, Fiore devoted all his energies to animation.

[BestLion]

Wait how is it racist?
Every thing is racist now days..say the pyramids were not built by Egyptians-racsist
Tell that they Mayans didnt make the calendar but Kukulkhan 'a red bearded man' -Rasicst
Walk on eggshells, and break one-racist
Say that Atlantis was all white- Racist.
darn I just want the truth! sick of racist stuff everywhere, that I look I find it.Esp in conventional history. Claim that the Aryans built Egypt then I am labeled a racist. Cause the Black Africans claim they built it...Claim Cortex was Spanish I am racist.My god! It never ends.
This racism stuff can go where the moon dont shine ...I WANT THE TRUTH!!

[Mark]

Bestlion stay on track. Some of the stuff you're talking about is racist. But this video was not.

[alienHunter]

hello, I'm going to my happy place....

[alienHunter]

whaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt. The Mayans didn't produce their own calendar...I can't believe it!


I had a college math professor that always like to remind the classes that the indigenous cultures of America contributed nothing to the field of mathematics. One time I solved a theoretical graph problem he assigned that no one else could crack. He commented to the class that it was a problem that one didn't need to know anything to solve.

Would it surprise you if I said I didn't like him very much.

I guess in fairness I should add that no one else did either. He seemed to be an equal opportunity misanthrope.

[Laurel]

Say that Atlantis was all white- Racist.

Atlantis was all white? We don't even know for a fact where Atlantis was located, let alone that it actually existed.
That comment tops #1 on the list of most ridiculous statements of 2012

[Seikou-Kishi]

This video is not racist! It's pointing out Obama's duplicity, inconsistency and falseness. It is not saying that white racists can love Obama's Caucasian heritage, while black racists can love his African heritage. I do hope the 'racism' cry wasn't a way of stifling out genuine concern about Obama's double-talk.

[Hamish]

Hello.

Whilst I am in no position to state why this comment was made for me I understand the possible reason.

In the UK at least any comment can and will be used against you. If you say Atlantis was used by only by Whites or Catholics the PC Bridge will have your guts for breakfast. I am sure and BestLion can correct me, but I believe her comment was not based on factual evidence but was a possible attempt to highlight that certain factions are using the old divide and conquer.

I apologise to the Mods and the OP for not staying on focus.



Say that Atlantis was all white- Racist.

Atlantis was all white? We don't even know for a fact where Atlantis was located, let alone that it actually existed.
That comment tops #1 on the list of most ridiculous statements of 2012

[alienHunter]

Hamish,

I agree, I think these kind of posts, as well as, all the fawning over any politician is in poor taste for a board of this nature and the mods should consider if it's appropriate. Of course, that's just my uninitiated opinion.

[baddbob]

Hamish,

I agree, I think these kind of posts, as well as, all the fawning over any politician is in poor taste for a board of this nature and the mods should consider if it's appropriate. Of course, that's just my uninitiated opinion.

So your saying theres no room for humor ? WTF is going on with people?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-qv7k2_lc0M

Im sorry but I dont see colors when a look at a person

[Mark]

I am sure and BestLion can correct me, but I believe her comment was not based on factual evidence but was a possible attempt to highlight that certain factions are using the old divide and conquer.


Bestlion can speak for herself and I hope she does as she has not previously, but in other threads she has put forth similar views in more detail, to include outdated statistical models that ascribe intelligence according to race, indicating that they are indeed her views. I did not come here to fight such perspectives as I did not originally believe that I would find such here, amongst people I believed to represent a more scientific and measured viewpoint, but here we are.

Regarding the thread, Obama remains a sure indicator when it comes to such topics as race is invariably involved in any discussion regarding him and the motivations of those who like or dislike him. I personally am quite aware of what he has done as many here are. Pointing that out is not racist, imho. But where personal prejudice does arise I do find it necessary to confront it directly and that is not being PC. People can believe what they want, but if they're going to state it aloud they better be able to back it up with facts, such as they may be.

[alienHunter]

Actually, Bob I haven't even viewed your original post but the response has been interesting. I'm sure you know as well as I do that humor has many facets and can be put to even more uses and not all of them are conducive to imparting understanding and tolerance of our fellows. I'm not going to watch the clip, so I guess you can decide and speak for yourself.

[Hamish]

As I said on my post I am in no position to state the reason why that comment was posted and will elaborate further in saying i do not state the reasons behind any posts on here. I am like many on this site just giving me own possible views.

In view of how this thread is going it MAY be wise to close it as the possible intention of the OP has been mistreated and is now causing offence to some viewers and posters. Anyone else share the same thoughts should this racial argument continue?

[alienHunter]

I let people make their own decisions, i'm out of it...that's my straightforward opinion.

[Snowbird]

As I said on my post I am in no position to state the reason why that comment was posted and will elaborate further in saying i do not state the reasons behind any posts on here. I am like many on this site just giving me own possible views.

In view of how this thread is going it MAY be wise to close it as the possible intention of the OP has been mistreated and is now causing offence to some viewers and posters. Anyone else share the same thoughts should this racial argument continue?

Race? The racial argument is focused on the OP cartoon. I just finished watching it and it is hilarious. I laughed out loud. Why? Because I voted for Obama and this cartoon says it all. Perhaps this thread should be titled, Deception vs. Duplicity.

Anyone care to argue?

[modwiz]

The Obama video didn't have any racism at all. It was straight and fair. I voted for the man, he made my eyes moist when he was running. Now, he makes my blood boil. I do have to credit him with opening my eyes to see how there is no political system of representation in DC. It is all crime and nothing but crime. Almost all of the town belongs in prison and many of them deserve whatever the penalty for the committing of treason is. Feeding them to sharks as they have fed us would be appropriate.

The depth of depravity and criminality in Wash, DC cannot be overstated or exaggerated. It is crime scene replete with war criminals.

[baddbob]

Well I feel if anyone feels that the cartoon was racist then they are the racist when you cant look at humor and not see it for what it is that tells me theres a issue with that person. Lighten up man its all good.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I still want humble janitor to respond. I really would like to hear if there is a valid argument for how this clip is racist. If I'm missing something here I want him to point it out.

[baddbob]

I still want humble janitor to respond. I really would like to hear if there is a valid argument for how this clip is racist. If I'm missing something here I want him to point it out.

Lol I dont see it either maybe its something to do with me he is from the same state maybe north vs south

[Snowbird]

The Obama video didn't have any racism at all. It was straight and fair. I voted for the man, he made my eyes moist when he was running. Now, he makes my blood boil. I do have to credit him with opening my eyes to see how there is no political system of representation in DC. It is all crime and nothing but crime. Almost all of the town belongs in prison and many of them deserve whatever the penalty for the committing of treason is. Feeding them to sharks as they have fed us would be appropriate.

The depth of depravity and criminality in Wash, DC cannot be overstated or exaggerated. It is crime scene replete with war criminals.

Ten thumbs up!! :thumb:

[Seikou-Kishi]

I am sure and BestLion can correct me, but I believe her comment was not based on factual evidence but was a possible attempt to highlight that certain factions are using the old divide and conquer.


Bestlion can speak for herself and I hope she does as she has not previously, but in other threads she has put forth similar views in more detail, to include outdated statistical models that ascribe intelligence according to race, indicating that they are indeed her views. I did not come here to fight such perspectives as I did not originally believe that I would find such here, amongst people I believed to represent a more scientific and measured viewpoint, but here we are.

Regarding the thread, Obama remains a sure indicator when it comes to such topics as race is invariably involved in any discussion regarding him and the motivations of those who like or dislike him. I personally am quite aware of what he has done as many here are. Pointing that out is not racist, imho. But where personal prejudice does arise I do find it necessary to confront it directly and that is not being PC. People can believe what they want, but if they're going to state it aloud they better be able to back it up with facts, such as they may be.

Wouldn't it be a shame if people had to establish their intellectual reputation with hard-work and intelligence, rather than floating in on a tide of racial statistics?

Statistics are only useful for mapping bee numbers year to year or deciding how many people prefer pepsi over coca cola, not for trying to generalise to races individual characteristics like intelligence.

[ktlight]

"About ten years ago the US occupied Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. The war in Afghanistan has become one of the longest wars in US history. The war on terror in Afghanistan is considered a quagmire and many wonder what went wrong. Michael Hastings, the Rolling Stone reporter who is responsible for ending Stanley McChrystal career, joins us to find out what went wrong in Afghanistan."

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[alienHunter]

He makes a valid statement when he says the mistake made was misunderstanding the Pentagon but what exactly does that mean? That guy is not a very good military technical analyst not to mention he is obviously very biased. The main intent is to be out of Afghanistan in a timely fashion given the hell hole the place has been since whenever it started. It will be done.

If you want to read something of real substance AND be totally taken off guard at the same time:


"The Pentagon's New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-First Century" - Thomas P. M. Barnett
"Blueprint for Action: A Future Worth Creating" - Thomas P.M. Barnett

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[Cidersomerset]

thanks Ktlight ......TPTB have allready won by initiating wars they finance the ind milt complex and cause death and destruction for their proffit whatever the
cost to the rest of us on which everside.......After the fall of the Berlin wall and the cold war which should and could have resulted in reduction of conflicts..
With the prospect of possibly losing control, power and proffits.They have kept a steady flow of conflicts around the world going
funded by covert means and insrumented thru political groups like the Neo-cons and other minnions around the globe.....

They are planning their next targets wether Iran, Syria even China as Hastings said the bulk of the so called journalists are all part of the 'old boys' club
and toe the party line for whatever reason....The real journalists are on the web thats why that is being targeted....

As we know the only real terrorists work for the elites and already run the world so it must be coming obvious to everyone ...

The problem is without wars what is the military and its adjacent industries to do....
Like Turkeys voting for christmas/Thanks giving....Generals and elites are not going to
vote for peace for long !!!!!

" Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" as shakespeare would say.......Steve

[alienHunter]

Seikou,

I don't know if I'm misinterpreting your post but I have to agree...actually let me post something. Regarding statistics, if they are ever lacking one can always go to a resident conservative think tank to find whatever bs they need to fit their argument.

[alienHunter]

From the genesis of Western thought, beginning with Aristotle’s notion that man’s intrinsic worth is a function of birthright (a man can be no more than what his station at birth allows) there has been in my opinion an unpalatable strain of intellectualism wending its way through history. It has sometimes appeared in more virulent incarnations from such as that of Friedrich Nietzsche to sometimes more benign forms from such as G.E. Moore. It has refused to die and it would seem it serves a function. The validity of these self evident notions simply ‘resonates’ with many and require no further examination.

More to the point, however, is language and its usage as a conveyance of ideas. It takes many forms and styles (e.g. rhetorical, metaphorical, sophistic and, of course, there are the less grandiose types, straightforwardness, succinctness, vulgarity, etc.) The one linking attribute of all these paradigms is meta-language; it is that which embodies language used as a deductive apparatus. It is the source of much miscommunication but ironically (for lack of a better conveyance) considered quite reliable. We all know it. It’s the ongoing intuitive meta-dialogue that impacts us in the manner of resonance or conversely disturbance when we ‘hear’ language and process it through our emotional and intellectual framework. We all know it, yet find it very difficult to quantify and articulate because it emanates from the core of our being at a nearly subconscious level and we almost never examine this internal dialogue with circumspection. Let’s call it subliminal programming.

In a real sense we are all beneficiaries or victims, if you will, of our meta-dialogue…it is our birthright, handed down from generation to generation, person to person, idea to idea.
As a result of my internal dialogue when I ‘hear’ people speak about the founding fathers and the constitution as their philosophical underpinning I begin to fidget and squirm. I think any philosophical, historical, and indeed even constitutional scholar would agree that at the time of constitutional framing there were prevailing and glaring inconsistencies within the body of Western enlightened thinking. The paradigms of left/right/liberal/conservative philosophy though merely a subtext to the overarching theme of enslavement they still retain much relevance. And certainly, the arena of Western thought transcends the boundaries of subtext pish posh. If we deny that then we are in danger of denying what we here so loosely call the truth.

http://www.smith.edu/philosophy/racial_contract.html

This is the fundamental problem underlying most 'racial' discussions.

[Star1111]

Urhmmmm, isn't Obama mixed race?
so he's black and he's white right? So if anyone thinks the video is racist ........ is it against the white part or the black part???

Its all silliness.

We are all God's creatures, lets love each other.
:)

[alienHunter]

Can you imagine how confused he is?


Urhmmmm, isn't Obama mixed race?
so he's black and he's white right? So if anyone thinks the video is racist ........ is it against the white part or the black part???

Its all silliness.

We are all God's creatures, lets love each other.
:)

[alienHunter]

if anyone wonders why Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize seemingly so prematurely, let me say in my opinion he never won. That award was granted to the nation and people of the United States. President Obama merely accepted in proxy. His presidency represented to the world a magnificent change in 'thought' away from what had historically been considered the 'status quo' in western philosophical practice.

[risveglio]

if anyone wonders why Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize seemingly so prematurely, let me say in my opinion he never won. That award was granted to the nation and people of the United States. President Obama merely accepted in proxy. His presidency represented to the world a magnificent change in 'thought' away from what had historically been considered the 'status quo' in western philosophical practice.

Boy they really screwed that up. Now the anti-war left no longer care about Peace.

[alienHunter]

Hey Risveglio,

No, I don't really believe that. We are all forced into a 'box' we don't want to be in...The real question is how to fight our way out.

[risveglio]

If you don't believe it you are not paying attention. Obama makes Bush look like Ghandi but there are no more protests from the left. And to say there has been a change from the status quo is also blind. Do you see a demand from anyone other than maybe Nader and Kucinich for a Peace nominee in the Democratic Party? In the Republican party, the peace candidate has only gained between 20-30% of the votes so far. I don't think the American people are demanding Peace.

[alienHunter]

they will get it, nonetheless.

Probably in about a 1,000 years... ;)

[Alie]

This is a very heartfelt letter from an insider (seems like a very old man) derived from The Ulsterman Report (http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/03/26/wall-street-insider-why-i-do-this/). If you read the entire letter, I believe you'll find some more validity about the danger of these times and what has happened to wake up his peers.



WALL STREET INSIDER: Why I Do This

by Ulsterman on March 26, 2012 with 99 Comments in News

In an insightful and emotional letter, a longtime Wall Street Insider discusses why the defeat of Barack Obama in 2012 has for them become the “the most important thing I can do with the time I have left.”

My Friend,

Apologies for being unable to meet with you. My current condition would not be conducive to a discussion worthy of your time as my focus and energy are too often depleted.

I am far from over though. And the tasks I have promised to undertake on behalf of our shared gals are proceeding if not under my direct guidance, certainly by capable individuals who have and remain loyal to interests both personal and professional.

Your concern is received with gratitude, but it is not necessary. Old age is the end result of each of us both blessed and cursed with living on beyond our physical means. I’m an old man. That’s what a good friend used to call one of those “unavoidable truths”. Ok then. There is pride in being able to say so. My life is an extension of those who sacrificed before me and so it has always been my intention to live as long as possible out of gratitude and respect for that sacrifice. And I’m not quite done with doing so just yet. Gratitude and respect are fine, but I’m a stubborn and selfish old man as well and in no hurry to accept the inevitable, unavoidable truth be damned.
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We still have much work to do before now and November, and I have every intention of fully meeting my obligation in what has been started here. It would not be fair to either yourself or –name deleted- if I was to be so rude as to roll over and die now would it? Perhaps then this adventure we are now on is actually responsible for waking me up each day? Yes, I believe that may very well be true, and so I must thank you for continuing to include me in all of this.

If you have been paying attention to the news reports, which of course you are, then you are seeing the initial results of my efforts. There will be more to come soon. Support has been quite strong. I am actually rather amazed at how deeply the fear for the country now extends. It has brought together a normally quite disparate group of interests. Neither time nor the severity of the moment allows for us to sit and watch and pretend to live above it all. Not anymore. The determination of those who control this administration, and the willingness of this president to assist in their desired outcome has finally awoken us. The defeat of Barack Obama is the most important thing I can do with the time I have left. I do not say that as a boast. I do not say that to somehow elevate my own sense of importance. I say that as a man blessed to have lived in this country for many decades and in that time, the prosperity that time has given to me is worthy of many lifetimes. What I owe to this country demands I do what I can to save it. This beautiful and chaotic experiment that is America. I am so sorry to not have felt this way sooner. That is the one thing I fear the most of late. Regret. Such a horrible – horrible word. Regret. I read the comments of your readers. As many as I can. I am almost shamed to tell you how closely I follow those comments. It borders on obsession. The many who have said I should have done more. Who said I helped or at the very least allowed Barack Obama to be elected president. While my powers of influence certainly are being exaggerated by such comments, the essence of their meaning is accurate. I was both arrogant and lazy. And so I must apologize to them for that. The anger and resentment that Americans feel toward Wall Street is sadly, deserved. At least in part. While we are not the monsters of greed and manipulation some would make of us, so many on Wall Street were not paying attention. That truth cannot be denied. And so there are those of us now working to remedy, in whatever way we can, however best we can, the mistake of our own arrogance and ignorance. I can only speak on my own behalf in this and say that my hope to do just that is quite sincere in each and every breath I now take, and in each and every breath I have left in me to do so.

The person known as Barack Obama must be defeated in November. Where once I saw a largely intellectually ineffective man who appeared to know little more than their own self interest, I now see as an integral fixture within a much more comprehensive agenda that is so utterly dangerous and damaging to the United States it has left me stunned to the core of my being. There are world leaders who have come to realize this same truth. You know well who I speak of. They looked into the eyes of the man calling himself Barack Obama and witnessed the most dangerous combination of absolute and all consuming arrogance, deceit and ill intent. But just as there are those who fear such a combination, you must understand there are also others who welcome it. Far more than is comfortable to admit. The enemies of America are now gathering. 2008 was the calling. We have abandoned the Almighty. My greatest fear is He may now have abandoned us. In our foolish neglect of the great gift of freedom that is the United States, perhaps that is exactly what is deserved. And yet, I refuse to simply accept that. For my children and grandchildren and their children’s children, I must do everything in my power to secure the continued potential of the nation that offered itself as a haven from the tyranny my own family fled so many years ago. So many years, and yet, as my time on this earth concludes, it feels to me now to also have been so very recent. The older I have become, the more I now miss my own mother and father and other loved ones long ago gone from me. So many who did not survive. I am haunted by them. We are all born to die I suppose, but presently I feel as if too much is being left undone. I worry over not meeting my promised obligations. I worry about letting you down. Of failing to live up to the responsibility of having survived while so many others did not.

I must apologize for my prattling. Even when engaged in the written word I find my mind has difficulty walking the same path for any length of time.

-Name Deleted – told you to closely watch the Supreme Court proceedings this week. They are right to do so. It is my great privilege to count two of the nine members of that court as friends. Until somewhat recently it was three. That third being a man whose wisdom and friendship I miss terribly. His legal stewardship at this particular time would have proven invaluable to us. May God grant these nine people the wisdom to remove the oppression contained within that foul document so appropriately called “Obamacare”. Never should its manifestation been allowed. Never should I and others have even remotely considered it may be of benefit to Americans struggling without health care coverage. A Trojan Horse of false idealism and we opened the gates to it and now a battle for the soul of America is underway. It is shameful how little attention I paid to it then. Such a stupid and pretentious man I was. Perhaps I still am.

Thank you for the reading and film package you sent. I have to be honest and admit I did not make time for any of them but one. Last weekend I did watch the film about the Irish singer. It was a beautiful story. Your people are so lyrical. Even when we would conduct our interviews your voice has a pattern to it like poetry that is quite pleasant to be around and sometimes it is more of a song than a conversation. Does that make sense to you? I do hope we have more opportunities to speak with each other in person but I am simply not comfortable with you seeing me like this. That film though was, however temporary, a pleasant escape for me. And the musical disc you sent with it I play often now. The first of the numbers in particular. You were right to say I would find much to relate to in that song.

One last thing I must ask of you. Some months ago I offered you protection and you refused it. I would ask that you reconsider for not only yourself but your family. I am not certain you fully appreciate just how combative the coming months may become, and how willing certain parties will be to attempt to silence all opposition. I can provide some measure of insulation from that opposition and can have it fully in place within a day’s time. As you may suspect, I have already done this for you to a far lesser degree, but to further your protection would require a bit more intrusion and I will not do so without your consent. Please consider my offer. You were told the story of someone who died under suspicious circumstances only to see some associated with them then be rewarded following that death. The details of the story –Name Deleted- shared with you is true. I confirmed that myself. And you yourself have since witnessed the rewards of those involved now playing out. The excitement of discovery must always include the necessity of caution. Please do not compromise your safety and please reconsider your refusal of my assistance in that regard.



I am blessed to count you as a friend.

-Name Deleted-

[Eram]

This is a very heartfelt letter from an insider (seems like a very old man) derived from The Ulsterman Report (http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/03/26/wall-street-insider-why-i-do-this/).
-Name Deleted-[/INDENT][/INDENT]

Hi Alie,

I read the whole letter, but I was not able to find out why this healthcare bill Which is now under the supreme courts to look at, a trojan horse. Because, that's what the letter is about isn't it? The old man wants Obama out of office and he sees the bill of healthcare as a trojan horse.

I'd like to know why he thinks this bill is a trojan horse....

[PathWalker]

I read most of it today.

Mostly US centered internal freedom constitution boosting.
As if the rest of the world is controlled by the US. Well let me tell you something the Asians ans Russian are up for something and they are no kids in control games. And they are not bounded to legal constitutional hogwash. They kill and do not ask questions later.

There is great danger is mass arrests and resignations, replacing one control system with another.
I sense DW source as a another form of control system. He is very authoritarian and righteous. The kind of people he oppose.

Take care for your conscious freedom by identifying the control source in yourself and other.
After all, the thing we dislike the most are somewhat a reflection of ourselves.

[Alie]

This is a very heartfelt letter from an insider (seems like a very old man) derived from The Ulsterman Report (http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/03/26/wall-street-insider-why-i-do-this/).
-Name Deleted-[/INDENT][/INDENT]

Hi Alie,

I read the whole letter, but I was not able to find out why this healthcare bill Which is now under the supreme courts to look at, a trojan horse. Because, that's what the letter is about isn't it? The old man wants Obama out of office and he sees the bill of healthcare as a trojan horse.

I'd like to know why he thinks this bill is a trojan horse....

Good question Wakytweaky --- I think from some of his other letters on that site, which I read, that he's grieving over the lose of freedom and liberty --- and that the health care bill is the final nail against freedom as we know it. I didn't learn what the trojan horse is, but that doesn't mean it won't be revealed later. He writes regularly on The Ulsterman Report.

I shared this letter mainly to say that typically the elite (which he appears to be) are on the side against us, but it now appears that many are washing their hands of the sinister effect of Obama's presidency and what it means to our country. If those of us on this thread are feeling the truth of the Drake interview, then this letter will show that there's one more element to add to the mix ---

There seems to be a culminating effect of "that's enough" in many different strata of the US --- this is just one more bit of evidence (IMHO).

[crosby]

i believe that the trojan horse may be the mandatory implementation of the micro-chip into all american citizens. but i am not 100% sure about this. i just read it somewhere, but i cannot remember where.
warmest, corson

[mountain_jim]

I am not current with it but I have seen what I believed was pro-Clinton disinfo and bias in past Ulsterman Reports, back when they were hoping to oust Obama and find a way to get Clinton's folks in charge.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is a very heartfelt letter from an insider (seems like a very old man) derived from The Ulsterman Report (http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/03/26/wall-street-insider-why-i-do-this/). If you read the entire letter, I believe you'll find some more validity about the danger of these times and what has happened to wake up his peers.
I moved this post, and the few just above responding to it, to this thread, from another thread: David Wilcock "DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43077-David-Wilcock-DIVINE-INTERVENTION-Section-I-Defeating-Financial-Tyranny).

[Alie]

White House Insider: The Obama Plan – Part Two

http://s3.amazonaws.com/triond/avatars/2009/08/11/230557_a.jpg Published by Ulsterman on August 15, 2011 in Politics



"Even if it means the threat of race riots. They are willing to go that far – go down that road if need be. If the Obama team can’t guilt enough of White America into voting for them in 2012 – they are just fine with trying to scare the sh-t out of them to do it."



Insider: EXACTLY. Don’t you understand it then? How race – that very thing that pulled his ass out of the fire back in 2008 – that’s the plan for 2012. But even more of it. They got an entire plan to utilize it. Targeting certain states. A media campaign. Use it as a weapon against prospective opponents – the Romney people better be ready because he’s gonna get his ass kicked with the race issue and he won’t even see it coming. They better have their boy prepared for that…

Ulsterman: States? Media campaign? For the race issue?

Insider: Yes. It’s in place and underway – being developed. Further developed. It’s gonna – gonna tie it in with the unions somehow. I don’t know exaclty how – just that’s included in it. It will be an all out campaign on race. The goal is to completely mobilize the Black vote while shaming an even greater number of white voters into not opposing a second Obama term. They are gonna get out the guilt vote man. The guilt vote!

Ulsterman: Obama…Democrats in general, already get the Black vote – most of it.

Insider: They want all of it. Every last one. Then bring in the Hispanic vote, tie them up in this race issue as well. Republicans want to toss you out. Obama wants to bring you in. They hate the color of Obama’s skin just like they hate the color of yours. Hey White America, you aren’t part of that group who hates non-whites are you? If not, you better get out and vote for Barack Obama.

Ulsterman: That sounds overly simplistic and insulting to voters. You really think something like that would actually work?

Insider: Hell yes-yes… it can work. It’s not gonna come so easy as it did in 2008, but that’s why they plan to ramp it up – the race issue. Look, you got generations of voters in this country who have been hammered with guilt for being white. Schools, television, movies…decades of this racism **** coming at them from all sides. White guilt is very real. I’ve used it-done it myself… countless times in an election campaign. And for Barack Obama…his re-election team – they are banking on it bringing victory in 2012. Even if it means the threat of race riots. They are willing to go that far – go down that road if need be. If the Obama team can’t guilt enough of White America into voting for them in 2012 – they are just fine with trying to scare the **** out of them to do it. And you need to know that there are a lot of Democrats who are hearing about this and are not on board. We’ve always used the race issue to our advantage – but what the Obama team has planned is something…it’s something else altogether. Off the charts stuff. Remember when I said that Obama ain’t no Democrat? That’s as true now as it’s ever been. And he’s on some kind of collission course now with everybody scrambling to get out of the way, and then some of us trying to do what we can to stop it before it’s too late. He’s already destroyed the party…much of it. Gonna take a long time to recover. Daley can’t stop this from within. He’s moderated the damage, but he’s wearing down. Now it’s the country we are worried about. My kids and grandkids will do all right without a Democratic Party around. They need to have an America though. The whole world does.

Ulsterman: You really believe Barack Obama would go that far to win in 2012? He would be willing to engage in that kind of tactic? Just how far would he go?

Insider: (Pauses)… As far as it takes. We’re preparing for it. I sure as hell hope America is too. Like I told you…this election coming up…Brutal.

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-the-obama-plan-part-two/

Wow, Obama's recent comment on 3-23-12:

""If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," the president said this morning, and the line is likely to resonate for months to come, maybe even years". written in LA Observed.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Thanks Jack! Another homerun for you!

LaRouchepac.com reported a shorter version of this on August 23rd of 2011:

Ulsterman's 'Insider' Echoes LaRouche on Nerobama

August 23, 2011 • 8:22AM

It is clear that some people inside the Beltway are taking Lyndon LaRouche's blunt assessment of the present strategic crisis and the urgent need to oust Obama now to heart. In an Aug. 21 third installment of an interview with his "White House Insider," blogger Ulsterman (www.newsflavor.com) really uncorks on the insanity of Barack Obama. In a verbatim interview transcript, White House Insider paints a picture of a President Obama ready to unleash race riots across the United States if he sees his chances of reelection slipping. Without using the word Narcissist or invoking Hitler or Emperor Nero, White House Insider presents a frightening but undoubtedly accurate profile of President Obama.

After Ulsterman questions Insider's warnings that Obama is prepared to provoke social and racial chaos, Insider retorts:

"You and too many goddamn Americans don't see it so don't feel so bad. You know, other world leaders see it. Putin, Sarkozy, Merkel. Harper... Barack Obama is incapable of anything remotely resembling leadership, but he is also quite capable of the kind of dangerous arrogance that the very worst leaders in history possessed."

Insider goes on to describe how Obama no longer works in the Oval Office, but prefers a private study upstairs, next to Valerie Jarrett's office, where he can wear shorts or sweats and flip-flops. A large flat-screen TV is always turned on—to ESPN or Fox News, and the desk is littered with popular magazines like Rolling Stone and People—all open to coverage of Obama. "If it's about him, he's gonna read it. Good or bad—doesn't matter. If somebody is talking about him, he's reading it. He's watching it. Whatever. The guy's self-obsession is off the ****ing charts."

When Ulsterman again objects to the characterizations, Insider explodes: "I'm trying to lay out the psychological foundation of the son-of-a-bitch. You think people might want to know what this man is really like? How everything around him—the whole ****ing image... it's a charade. It's a lie. He fooled me—he fooled a whole lot of us. And he is frightened every hour of every day that the country will find out. But this realization, this little part of Obama's self-awareness, it's getting beat down by the guy's absolute arrogance and when necessary, willingness to over-reach acceptable executive authority... It's about how far he will go to keep the charade up, right? How far, and who is he willing to throw under the bus? Who can be sacrificed to keep up the lie that is Barack Obama? To keep the scandals down? To keep people quiet? To keep himself as the tool for the ones really calling the shots?"

His conclusion: "If we are too stupid as a country to fix this mess... then so be it. It's over. The America we know, the America we knew—it's over. Done. And we will only have ourselves to blame."

Link: http://larouchepac.com/node/19153

[sdv]

Politics is ruthlessly brutal and power corrupts, and even presidents have their weaknesses and baggage and so on. We need to find a governing system that protects us from this. Any ideas about a new system of democracy? How about a system where we have referendums and representatives are in government to keep us informed rather than make decisions for us?

[Seikou-Kishi]

I personally dont understand why you would give any credence to someone who cannot apprently go five minutes without cussing. My elders always told me someone who cusses alot doesn't have much to say that's worth listening to.

You know, I thought that too. He was very irritating to read, nothing but bolshy "If I tell you this, you ****ing believe it" and streams of expletives... but then I thought this guy is probably very frustrated and wallowing in a quagmire of sleaze and dirt... it is not unreasonable to expect indelicate language from indelicate people.

[Alie]

... We need to find a governing system that protects us from this. Any ideas about a new system of democracy? How about a system where we have referendums and representatives are in government to keep us informed rather than make decisions for us?

I think if we are fortunate enough to get a reset, that people need a system that allows them "to be" and not have "to do" anything. The only thing that they would need to do is to support/vote for motivated/passionate statesmen/stateswomen, who would truly represent their community --- who would be in service to their peers/neighbors so that the people don't have to be on guard and can just enjoy living.

[kathymarie]

Pardon me....not my usual manner of speech but ....F***ING UNBELIEVABLY GREAT posts, Jackovesk! Thanks....going back to top to reread....