Ascension, ELE, Calamities, Disclosure and 5th Density

[Mandala]

With all the buzz about Nibiru, Comet Elenin, the increase of earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanoes, brings me to ask this question, which is weighing heavily on my mind.

Supposedly we are evolving and heading towards a marvelous period, which some have referred to as Ascension. We will be able to do marvelous things, have superior abilities, experience no illness and have extended lifetimes.

Another thing I have been looking forward to is Alien Disclosure, justice for the wrongs that have been committed by the PTB, at least acknowledgements of those dirty deeds done dirt cheap for terrific financial gains against humanity.

I guess my big question is with the hype about Nibiru, Elenin and proposed dates which are on the near horizon, will there be anyone left alive in physicality to experience all this before we lose electricity, communication, and experience meterorites pounding earth, class x CMEs, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, tsunamis, pole shift, vulcanism to reap the benefits of the "good stuff", or do we have to do it as a soul (since most will be deceased)?

I would just like to hear your thoughts on this. I was hoping to get in on the big celebration while still alive, but it seems it may not happen for many of us.

[Sugarific]

Sure there will be...

[sandy]

Dear Mandala,

I think you will be there if not in body and spirit then spirit for sure :)

[Sierra]

With all the buzz about Nibiru, Comet Elenin, the increase of earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanoes, brings me to ask this question, which is weighing heavily on my mind.

Supposedly we are evolving and heading towards a marvelous period, which some have referred to as Ascension. We will be able to do marvelous things, have superior abilities, experience no illness and have extended lifetimes.

Another thing I have been looking forward to is Alien Disclosure, justice for the wrongs that have been committed by the PTB, at least acknowledgements of those dirty deeds done dirt cheap for terrific financial gains against humanity.

I guess my big question is with the hype about Nibiru, Elenin and proposed dates which are on the near horizon, will there be anyone left alive in physicality to experience all this before we lose electricity, communication, and experience meterorites pounding earth, class x CMEs, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, tsunamis, pole shift, vulcanism to reap the benefits of the "good stuff", or do we have to do it as a soul (since most will be deceased)?

I would just like to hear your thoughts on this. I was hoping to get in on the big celebration while still alive, but it seems it may not happen for many of us.

I think the party is going to be blasting away in multiple dimensions Mandala ... :becky::dance::music::drum::whoo::grouphug::party:

[Calz]

An amazing time to be alive and witness to.

Do what you can to stay out of fear and be strong for those around you. It is all part of a natural process ... a cycle ... yet every "end of the cycle" will always have differences. Universe is never static. Things are constantly moving and changing.

No one knows exactly how it will fall out. From what I have been led to believe even our ET brothren don't know.

Enjoy the show!!!

:pop2:

[Carmen]

Ah, we will all be there Mandala. Be able to see each other in person. We have all come to far to stay in this duality any longer. We've done the hard yards. Bring on the Party!!:angel::lalala::tea::cheer2::flypig:

[Shamz]

Whatever will happen or is bound to happen will take place for the betterment of the planet mother. Even if we all leave this body - don't stay alive to witness this event - our planet will feel this. And the next generation of souls which will come here --hopefully many of us will again choose to be here - will have a beautiful planet to live in and frankly this is all that matters.
Whenever there is a shift in powers - rich Vs poor - powerful vs weak -- mother nature will always come to rescue in the end. Better late than never.
Lets all pray for the good.

~Love

[Ruby L.]

Hi, Mandala,

From time to time, I find myself thinking about the same concerns you've posted up, too.

Sometimes, I wonder how people can be talking about celebrations and ascension when it all starts feeling a bit much.

And then I think, "You know, you can't do more than you can do, so just concentrate on beng the best that you can be, and don't worry about the rest."

So, instead, I now concentrate on the things I love, and try not to sweat the small stuff.

Keep your heart and your spirit light and clear, and surround yourself with things that make your heart glow.
As long as you are okay in yourself, everything around you shall be okay, too.

:hug:

[TraineeHuman]

I just did a psychic reading regarding this question. The answer I got was a strong "yes" that you will be alive and also that most people on the planet will still be alive. Of course, the future is forever a moveable feast. but my reading suggests we've managed to avoid the worst possibilities for now. Still, we certainly of course all need to keep focusing on creating a favorable timeline.

[The Truth Is In There]

this is from another thread. my idea about the whole issue is below the quotes.





If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris


WHAT is happening?

I see 2 plausable scenario's (extreme distilation)

A) we are about to transend this existance, break free of the confinements that are everywhere (reptilian extra dimensional influence, or what ever it may be)

B) we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle, one which we have reached and passed MANY MANY times (13 million years worth) and all this enlightment / trandcention crap is to pacify us so that we do not question too strongly, so we spend our time in meditation waiting for what we think is salvation when infact it's an E.L.E.; since the controlling group really doesn't want to bother with 7 billion angry food bags, it's going to lull us into not preparing and let the earth be "cleansed" by the "destroyer" (as it's done every so often, at this point I'm not sure if it happens every 6,000 years (I think it does) and this 26,000 years (roughly) cycle is just the completion of a longer cycle (microcasm and macrocasm, as above so below etc..) so this one will be different or not? I dunno) ANYWAY.. option B is : let confusion and chaos reign right up untill the earth experences a population reset (that's been clearly desired for a long time, georga guide stones are an example) then they will come back to the surface (either from the DUMB (underground bases) or from possibly the center of the earth & / or moon) and start the proccess over again.

if its B.. we are F|_|cked (IMO) if its A.. I'm excited..

either way I'm not afraid, fear is their controll mech, and in general completely useless.

both answers are correct. for a part of earth's population it will be A, for the other part it will be B. only we're not just at the end of a 26.000 year cycle but at the very end of a 16.4 billion year cycle!

ascension will happen for all those who are ready, all others will experience major earth changes during which a large part of the remaining population will die.

those who die will either incarnate again in the 3rd dimensional aspect of earth which will be ruled by tptb (for quite a while in underground bunkers and cities because the earth's surface will be inhabitable) or they'll incarnate on other, more benevolent 3d planets to continue their learning process.

those who live through the earth changes in 3d or incarnate here again will "descend" and live for a long time without any connection to spirit, probably under the rule of tptb, in a post-apocalyptic scenario, a living hell. that doesn't mean they're bad or negative, they just choose that experience because they need it for their soul's growth.

those who ascend will continue their existence for a while in the upper regions of the 4th dimensional aspect of earth and after a while will be ready to move up into the 5th dimension. so if the 3rd dimension can be called "hell" then the 4th and 5th dimensions could obviously be called "heaven".

all this has to be seen multidimensionally. it's not that earth ascends and then there's no more 3rd dimension on earth, there still is, but from our current point of view we'll soon experience a split where a part of the souls who are currently incarnated here move up into earth's 4th dimension and the others either stay here in the 3rd or leave their bodies during earth changes.

that explains why some have seen the future as post-apocalyptic with major earth changes and others haven't. you could call it a "positive" and a "negative" timeline but it's really just different frequencies/vibrations/dimensions. actually there are infinite varieties of this but split into the "positive" and "negative" scenario.

now what's noteworthy is that those people who look towards december 21st, 2012 for the ascension are very likely wrong and that the important date is october 28th, 2011. that could be why for example the bible says "the lord will come like a thief in the night" - most people are unaware of the ascension and even those who are aware of it, most of them think it'll happen in 2012 and may be unprepared.

so, why all this doom and gloom, the wars, the fear-mongering of tptb? to keep the vibrations low, to hold as many souls as possible in the 3rd dimension. tptb know they won't ascend because they don't want to, and they plan on keeping as many souls as possible from ascending.

that's my current and probably final take on this whole issue. a few days ago i've asked for clarification on the mayan calendar and ascension and elenin and nibiru and whatnot and that's what i got. approximately 66 days from now i'll know for sure :o

[Marianne]

Hi, Mandala,
From time to time, I find myself thinking about the same concerns you've posted up, too.
Sometimes, I wonder how people can be talking about celebrations and ascension when it all starts feeling a bit much.
And then I think, "You know, you can't do more than you can do, so just concentrate on beng the best that you can be, and don't worry about the rest."
So, instead, I now concentrate on the things I love, and try not to sweat the small stuff.
Keep your heart and your spirit light and clear, and surround yourself with things that make your heart glow.
As long as you are okay in yourself, everything around you shall be okay, too.
:hug:

Beautiful advice, Ruby. Thank you from my heart.

[KosmicKat]

Our animal bodies are smart enough to know, and fear their own mortality. But to paraphrase a good friend of mine, why persist in a form that was clearly designed to be temporary, little more than a launch pad for a more permanent form? Our destiny is not in the dust!

(to clarify; there is nothing to be gained by terminating our flesh forms prematurely, and there are unseen powers ensuring that we don't, but there is nothing to be feared in the sleep of physical dissolution, and it may be possible for some to release the physical form before death)

[DoubleHelix]

will there be anyone left alive in physicality to experience all this

Humanity as a whole, more so in the West, has been indoctrinated to expect an apocalyptic type event. From an early age we've been subject to conditioning through the likes of TV, education and religion. This stuff is ingrained in our psyche so deeply that the potentiality of an extinction level event arises somewhat naturally. Primarily as a conspiracy website we tend to deal with all things "Doom and Gloom" on a daily basis. What isn't common knowledge among alternative researchers is that the PTB control and manipulate the alternative world in the same fashion as the outside world. It's worse than a multi-pronged attack, it's akin to 100's of various fishing rods all dangling a unique piece of bait to unsuspecting customers. Their objective is to have us in a state of fear and confusion... by and large it seems to work rather effectively!

With that said and done, history suggests that extinction level events have indeed occurred at various intervals during the past. The only thing that would incline me to think that 2012 entails death and destruction (opposite of love and light :P) would be if it was of a cyclic nature. Thus we would of had something similar occur 26,000 years ago, which I'm led to believe wasn't the case.

With planet Earth aligning with the galactic center I believe our sun may act as a magnifying glass which would subsequently lead to increased activity and CME's. Maybe the grid will go down for a day or two within major cities, but nothing we can't handle! That's about the only thing that strikes me as real potential. (IMO)

I personally foresee and bright future for man kind! My prediction is that we will see a global paradigm shift in our collective consciousness. One that's already begun but will ramp up as we approach the Mayan apex. I also think we will see the monetary system collapse and education take a drastic shift to where emphasis is placed on promoting creativity.

[stdante]

my strongest fear ?
-> nothing happening and dying 40 years from now like a slave, but not before watching my children became slaves themselves

a projection of the future that scares me most ? ->
Based on the medium projection, the number of people in the world – currently close to 7 billion – should pass 8 billion in 2023, 9 billion by 2041 and then 10 billion at some point after 2081

good luck with that children :scared:

[Tane Mahuta]

Don't wait for disclosure from any Govts....won't happen!....

If they do, it will be all fabricated lies....

Do not fear change.....but welcome it!.....

TM