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ktlight
26th August 2011, 09:51
The Antelope Valley is a vast patch of desert on the outskirts of Los Angeles County, and a segment of the few rugged individualists who live out there increasingly are finding themselves the targets of armed raids from local code enforcement agents, who've assembled into task forces called Nuisance Abatement Teams (NATs).

The plight of the Valley's desert dwellers made regional headlines when county officials ordered the destruction of Phonehenge: a towering, colorful castle constructed out of telephone poles by retired phone technician Kim Fahey. Fahey was imprisoned and charged with several misdemeanors.

But Fahey is just one of many who've been targeted by the NATs, which were assembled at the request of County Supervisor Mike Antonovich in 2006. LA Weekly reporter Mars Melnicoff wrote an in-depth article in which she exposed the county's tactic of badgering residents with minor, but costly, code violations until they face little choice but to vacate the land altogether.

"They're picking on the the people who are the most defenseless and have the least resources," says Melnicoff.

Reason.tv collaborated with Melnicoff to talk with some of the NAT's targets, such as retired veteran Joey Gallo, who might face homelessness if he's forced to leave his house, and local pastor Oscar Castaneda, who says he's already given up the fight and is in the process of moving off the land he and his wife have lived on for 22 years. And, while Antonovich declined an interview, we did catch up with him at a public meeting in order to ask the big question at the center of all this: Why the sudden enforcement of these codes against people living in the middle of the desert, who seemingly are affecting no one?

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Autumn
26th August 2011, 11:03
Makes me think of the old Superman movie (1) where Lex Luthor tries to cracks off Californias coast at the rift after having bought up all the dessert which would then become the new beach front properties.

Lord Sidious
26th August 2011, 12:31
This is another of those issues that aren't so hard to fix.
If someone in the area did some research on regional planning and what happened to the properties that the others vacated, we might have a better idea of what we are dealing with.
If people are using the ''authorities'' to clear that land and then buying it ahead of some type of scheme being implemented, then we could look for the links between the buyers and the county officials.
If that were found, there are remedies available to you.
Even if that couldn't be found, there are still remedies available to you for this nuggetry.

MorningSong
26th August 2011, 12:33
A quick look at the Wiki page for Antelope Valley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antelope_Valley was an eye-opener for me....

It mentions: Edwards AFB, USAFB Plant 42, aerospace-related companies, Mohave Air and Space Port.... et al.

Googling "UFO sightings in Antelope Valley, CA" gave some interesting info, too.

Lord Sidious
26th August 2011, 14:08
A quick look at the Wiki page for Antelope Valley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antelope_Valley was an eye-opener for me....

It mentions: Edwards AFB, USAFB Plant 42, aerospace-related companies, Mohave Air and Space Port.... et al.

Googling "UFO sightings in Antelope Valley, CA" gave some interesting info, too.

Interesting.
I wonder if the feds are using the county to clear that land like they did around groom lake?

kathymarie
26th August 2011, 14:20
Alas, Lord Sidious....just when I thought a "nugget" might be a good thing...you know, as opposed to a "lump"....you throw in the term "nuggetry" which doesn't sound like a good thing.

MorningSong
26th August 2011, 14:23
Quite interesting, LS.

Here's a rundown on the Lake Groom story:

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/dreamland_50years.html

Lord Sidious
26th August 2011, 14:59
Alas, Lord Sidious....just when I thought a "nugget" might be a good thing...you know, as opposed to a "lump"....you throw in the term "nuggetry" which doesn't sound like a good thing.

Yeah, did that just to keep you avalonuggets guessing. ;)
It worked too, didn't it? :p

Ivanhoe
26th August 2011, 15:35
It's quite possible that the military is trying to acquire more property.
I lived in Ridgecrest, in Kern county(the county just east of LA county) in the early 90's.
It is adjacent to China Lake, a HUGE naval flight, research and weapons testing area that trained pilots from several different countries in new craft and flight techniques.
When I was there I met pilots from Germany and Japan, but I understood that there had been pilots from South American countries there as well.