Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon: 15-16 October 2011 -- canceled: see Post #115

[Bill Ryan]

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Hello, All:

I’d like to let you all know that I’m still very much alive, and still on my mission. There’s quite a lot to report and comment on.

As Mark Twain is once famously said to have written in response to a rumor: The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. (*)

:)

Here’s some news.

1) I’ll be holding a one-day seminar near Portland, Oregon on the weekend of 15-16 October. The first event will be on Saturday 15 October: it’ll be repeated on Sunday, the next day. Everyone is invited. The energy exchange will be the request of an optional donation to Project Avalon. How much you donate is all up to you.

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/donation.html

The event is here…

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=17425+Holy+Names+Drive+Lake+Oswego+OR+97034

… at The Holy Names Heritage Center : 17425 Holy Names Drive, Lake Oswego, OR 97034. It’s a block away from Hwy 43, traveling south from Lake Oswego, at the Mary's Woods entrance to Marylhurst University. We'll have some signs to show the way. It’s 10 miles south of Portland City Center, and 20 miles south of the airport.

To handle the challenge of a limited but ticketless event, please write to me at bill@projectavalon.net with the subject PORTLAND SEMINAR – SATURDAY (or PORTLAND SEMINAR – SUNDAY), letting me know you’ll be there. Please only write if you’re committing to come. There’s a limit of 75 people per day (which is all the venue can hold). Too many people would be a problem. Too few people would be a shame.

If you are local and can assist with simple logistics (welcoming guests, etc) and also monitoring audio and video, please let me know.

Doors open at 9 am, the seminar will start at 10 am, and it’ll last till 6 pm. There’ll be ample opportunity for live questions, answers and discussion. The topic is:



The role of spirit to transform a world in crisis
-- The application of our inborn power to change reality




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* Existence - seen as the Greatest Game there is
* The generation and persistence of the Matrix Reality
* God, You, Me, and Us - who we all really are, and how we got to be that way
* Who or what has been spoiling the game, how, and why
* Why we don't know the truth, and our own responsibility in what we experience
* The past, possible futures, and parallel timelines
* The role of high technology and the control grid
* What ETs and ultradimensional beings are doing
* The role of Planet Earth
* How and why most of us lost our abilities
* The current consciousness shift
* What is possible
* What is at stake
* What we all can do.


The title and description is the same as that for the seminar series that Inelia and I started in Sacramento on 30 April, but this will be my own slant. Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene. The seminar will be recorded and edited for presentation on YouTube, and if the event is successful and appreciated I’ll be delighted to replicate it elsewhere.

For a preview of the main part of the day’s agenda, I’d like to reference two of my own interviews:

* The very well-received ‘Freedom Central’ video of November 2009:
video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ
audio: http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Camelot_Freedom_Central_16_Nov_2009.mp3



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ



* The ‘Avalon Interview’ video of April 2011:
video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XFP5hOux4UY
audio: http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Avalon_interview_part_1.mp3




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFP5hOux4UY



These describe my own life, mission, philosophy, and in the case of the Freedom Central video, lays out a metaphysical and philosophical context that in my view is essential to understand clearly. This event will enlarge and expand on all of the above. I’ll also outline and explain everything that’s happened in the last year : quite a lot of sturm und drang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm_und_Drang).

2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

3) Kerry and I will be speaking at her Project Camelot AWAKE AND AWARE (http://awakeandaware2011.com) event in LA on 23-25 September. I’ll be there for the entire event. Do come. There’s a terrific lineup, and Kerry has done a great job putting this together.

4) I’m not online very much at the moment, but will visit this thread over the next few days and will be happy to join in the discussion.

My warmest wishes to all - Bill



(*) In 1897, when reports of the illness of James Ross Clemens, a cousin, were somehow misconstrued to mean that Twain himself was lying at death's door in London, he cleared up matters by telling the reporter who'd stopped by to check on him that "The report of my death was an exaggeration." The 'greatly' was added by Twain himself years after the fact in preparing an account of this incident.

-- Twain also said (one of my favorites):
Work like you don't need the money.
Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody is watching.

[Anchor]

All power to you!

[WhiteFeather]

Good to hear from you Bill. Glad all is well. PS Will this event in October be going on You Tube. Hope So. Sounds Interesting to say the least.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Bill, it's so great to be able to cancel funeral arrangements and know that you are alive and well. Looks like Irene blew you back home to Avalon. Woo Woo! You were missed and are greatly loved in these parts of the ethernet. Much love! xoxoxo

[Morgaine]

Thank you Bill, great to hear from you! All you need to know is that you've been greatly missed by us all.
Hope you are well and full of inspiration!

Morgaine.

[fifi]

Greatly relieved to hear from you, Bill.
:dance:

[Mother]

Nice to have you back, my friend. Greetings from Brazil!

[ghostrider]

I think I can speak for the Avalon members when I say, We are happy to hear from you and glad to hear you are safe. We missed you Bill. Feels like you were gone forever.

[applepie]

Bill,

The theme of your meeting is absolutely right on. Exactly what is needed right now.

[Omni]

Welcome back to the forum Bill :) I'm not sure anyone thought you died... Least I didn't see that much.

I'm curious about this:


Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene.

Are you and Inelia not going to be working with each other from now on? I remember you projecting you and her would be doing work for years in a post somewhere, and some portions of the bill.inelia site have been removed. I'm curious what has happened to inspire this unforeseen change? I don't mean to pry but I'm curious what has happened and I bet many others are too.

I am assuming that I wont be able to meet Inelia if I go to the Portland seminar? I'm still interested in the seminar, just curious.

I hope you are around more on the forum Bill :)

[GCS1103]

Bill-
A big welcome back to Avalon. I am looking forward to seeing you at the Awake and Aware conference next month in California. You are an engaging speaker and I know it will be a terrific time for everyone who attends.

Goldie

[toothpick]

Great to hear your still with us Bill.
Hope all is well with you.

toothpick

[moonchild]

WELCOME BACK!!! YOU WERE GREATLY MISSED!

P.S: Also hope your conference will go on YouTube, can't wait!

[doodah]

ALL RIGHT!! It's good to hear from you, Bill. :kiss: Welcome back.

[tcjim1]

my support Bill..thank you..

[Mandala]

Bill, it is wonderful to hear from you. Blessings and protection to you my friend. Mandala

[Argos]

Hey Bill, it's good to hear from you. Thanks for all the hard work on behalf of honesty and truth. All the best. I look forward to reading many more of your posts.

[The One]

great news and thanks for the update Bill going to be fantastic when you have finished

Its a long journey my friend i am with you in spirit,hope to have you home soon

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Aryslan]

Excellent! Only a 3 hour drive from my locale. Glad to hear from you again, Bill! I was starting to fear that they had gotten to you. ;)

[Lord Sidious]

Good to see you back Bill.
Good luck with your speaking, wherever you are at.
Wish I could come, but at this stage, it isn't an option for me.

[Terra]

Seeing the captain on the deck again brings us much joy, it's great to hear from you Bill, thanks for the update.
Stay safe, stay strong, pack them halls all day long ...wish I could be there. :thumb:

Fair winds and following seas my friend.

[ktlight]

Welcome home, Bill. Glad you are safe.

[crosby]

welcome back Mr. Bill. glad to know that you are well and are moving forward with your work. comforting to know.
warmest regards, corson

[beyondmyctrl]

Welcome back to the forum Bill :) I'm not sure anyone thought you died... Least I didn't see that much.

I'm curious about this:


Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene.

Are you and Inelia not going to be working with each other from now on? I remember you projecting you and her would be doing work for years in a post somewhere, and some portions of the bill.inelia site have been removed. I'm curious what has happened to inspire this unforeseen change? I don't mean to pry but I'm curious what has happened and I bet many others are too.

I am assuming that I wont be able to meet Inelia if I go to the Portland seminar? I'm still interested in the seminar, just curious.

I hope you are around more on the forum Bill :)
hahahahahahahaha well look at that , nobody thanked you for this comment , usually the sheeple on this forum will thank any 'ol fuc**ng stupid comment but nobody thanked this one , I wonder why ? ROFL :) yeah , I'm fully aware that this'll get me banned but now that I've been told the truth, I really don't give a crap ! :)

[New Dawn]

Welcome back to the forum Bill :) I'm not sure anyone thought you died... Least I didn't see that much.

I'm curious about this:


Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene.

Are you and Inelia not going to be working with each other from now on? I remember you projecting you and her would be doing work for years in a post somewhere, and some portions of the bill.inelia site have been removed. I'm curious what has happened to inspire this unforeseen change? I don't mean to pry but I'm curious what has happened and I bet many others are too.

I am assuming that I wont be able to meet Inelia if I go to the Portland seminar? I'm still interested in the seminar, just curious.

I hope you are around more on the forum Bill :)
hahahahahahahaha well look at that , nobody thanked you for this comment , usually the sheeple on this forum will thank any 'ol fuc**ng stupid comment but nobody thanked this one , I wonder why ? ROFL :) yeah , I'm fully aware that this'll get me banned but now that I've been told the truth, I really don't give a crap ! :)

Are you talking to Omni here? what truth?

[mevlana]

Hi Bill,
Good thing to find out that an exaggeration was imaginative alternate realty. I hope You will think to do same organization at Europe soon.
Love one be one

[Ixopoborn]

Great to hear from you Bill. I won't be able to join you at the USA event this year and hope it is such a success that you do one or two similar events in Europe shortly afterwards. I would be there like a shot!

[Hughe]

Thanks Bill. ;)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Bill!

So good to have you back.
The mice have been playing...

Seminar around the north-east coast would be very welcome. But not USA 'cause I got no passport. I know, how about Toronto?

Keep up the great work!

[Camilo]

It's great to see you back where you belong dear friend. You were greatly missed.
I'm so glad I had the opportunity to meet you in person in Vilcabamba.

[grapevine]

Hi boss - glad you're back and ready when you are! Just starting to get fidgety .....xoxo

[bennycog]

Hi Bill!

So good to have you back.
The mice have been playing...

Seminar around the north-east coast would be very welcome. But not USA 'cause I got no passport. I know, how about Toronto?

Keep up the great work!

ahh but while the mice are home the cats will roam :)

I am looking forward to getting some new info Bill and listening to the otherside of all thats happened these past few months.. Welcome back here mate and your avalon family has been missing ya.....

[Billy]

Thank you for dropping into your home that you invited us all into Bill, I hope everything is hunky dory with yourself and we have not trashed your house to much. Refreshements are in the fridge,:welcome: the bills are paid and up to date, the garden is well watered but that was not hardwork as it's been peeing it down all summer.

I dont think anyone thought you had left Mother earth, Drama's, What are they like :blabla: ;)

I look forward to you popping by again.

Take care and peace be with you

[42]

Hi Bill!

So good to have you back.
The mice have been playing...

Seminar around the north-east coast would be very welcome. But not USA 'cause I got no passport. I know, how about Toronto?

Keep up the great work!

Toronto certainly works for me... and if Bill can't make it then maybe we should think about organizing our own get together somewhere in Toronto, say... maybe.. the Beaches?

[Mandala]

Bill, I'm looking forward to meeting you at the Camelot conference in September. You will be speaking won't you? You have been missed and I believe everyone is so glad to hear from you. Seeing the happy responses, must make you realize how much you are missed, loved and respected. Carpe Diem! Mandala

[Mike Gorman]

Hello Bill, very nice to hear from you; I knew you were quite O.K, my Welsh intuition never fails me!
Have you given any thought to coming to Australia for a visit and lecture tour? I feel quite certain there would
be a large amount of interest, there are some interesting people in this part of the world, and we would love to meet you
and discuss the ways of the Universe.
All the very best for the Portland Gig, I wish i could attend, but logistics prevent....
Cheers
Michael D. Gorman

[sirac]

Big very big, as i knew. Central master in [context referral to Bill]

[Mike]

yes, but how do we know you're Bill and...not...some...manchurian...imposter??? (;) i'm actually a little surprised we haven't seen that one yet!)

nice to have you back Bill!

[Bill Ryan]

Welcome back to the forum Bill :) I'm not sure anyone thought you died... Least I didn't see that much.

It was a joke! I’m a Mark Twain fan. :)


I'm curious about this:


Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene.

Are you and Inelia not going to be working with each other from now on? I remember you projecting you and her would be doing work for years in a post somewhere, and some portions of the bill.inelia site have been removed. I'm curious what has happened to inspire this unforeseen change? I don't mean to pry but I'm curious what has happened and I bet many others are too.

I am assuming that I wont be able to meet Inelia if I go to the Portland seminar? I'm still interested in the seminar, just curious.

I hope you are around more on the forum Bill :)

The best way to explain what happened is to reference this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material&p=126514&viewfull=1#post126514


As all teams evolve, they go through natural stages. The following simple model is surprisingly applicable to anything from a start-up company, to a project team, to a special forces unit, to a marriage. Maybe even a New Civilization.

There are four stages:






FORMING - when everyone is enthusiastic and highly motivated, but effectiveness is nowhere near maximized.
STORMING - work continues to get done, but morale is lower: problems, difficulties, irritations and conflicts raise their heads.
NORMING - disagreements and misunderstandings are worked through and resolved, agreements are reached, protocols are established, and effectiveness and productivity really start to soar.
PERFORMING - this is now a 'cream team' which is performing effortlessly, effectively, and with high enthusiasm and mutual support. (This level of operation is quite rare.)


Relationships go through this, too... of every kind. It's a natural cycle.

http://projectavalon.net/team_performance_curve.gif


The key to success is to move through the STORMING phase well. It's always there.







FORMING - High direction and clarity are needed. Personal support is not so needed, though, as enthusiasm is high all round.
STORMING - High direction and also high personal support - as morale wobbles and relationships are challenged. There needs to be a lot of talking and listening. Patience and understanding are essential.
NORMING - Direction from a leadership role isn't necessary any more, but it's necessary to maintain high personal support during the transition phase.
PERFORMING - Low direction, and minimal support: the team is self-managing, self-motivating, and self-supporting.


http://projectavalon.net/four_stages.gif



*******

The Forming phase was over, and we entered what we quickly realized was the Storming phase with way too much confidence – certainly on my part. We were under tremendous pressure, and did not Storm well – which is essential if a team or a project is to get through the other side of all the difficulties and continue to expand.

http://projectavalon.net/FSNP.gif

When in the Storming phase, the pressures can be internal (domestic example: a couple have moved in with each other, and the heroine discovers that the hero snores, or that he never does the washing up) – or external (e.g. the heroine has to care for her elderly mother and must give up her job, so there’s now shared financial pressure which is causing conflict). In our case, the pressure was external – a very heavy multi-pronged psychic attack that happened soon after we had published this important clarification (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22102-AN-IMPORTANT-ANNOUNCEMENT-ABOUT-ATTICUS-and-THE-GROUP-OF-18) – compounded by internal responses on both sides that did not work well.

In one sentence: we found that we were unable to handle what was coming at us. This was a considerable shock to us both. We’d each thought, with some justification, that we could handle pretty much anything.

We were both proved wrong. There were several critical points where we were unable to reach agreement. It was to the credit of both of us that we were able to deliver the Vilcabamba seminar. It very nearly did not happen.

After that, I pulled up the drawbridge and took a couple of months' sabbatical to regroup and re-strategize. I stayed with friends in Florida: I no longer had anywhere to live. It was an extremely valuable time for a number of reasons.

Meanwhile, soon after the Vilcabamba event, Inelia canceled the scheduled seminars this fall. She'll not be there in Portland. The 15-16 October event will be my own presentation. She’s now doing her own work in association with Lucia Rene, and this may be a more optimum platform for her. In the meanwhile, I continue to support her, in all the most important aspects, behind the scenes. I’m sure she does likewise.

Inelia is totally well-intentioned and is highly talented in many ways. Like Kerry (another ally who’s experienced a little bit of Storming in her time!) she’s never once knowingly told an untruth, and is a valued member of the Team for Planet Earth – as are many of you. There’s still a great deal of work to do.

Speaking of which – from Rog’s post on the thread acknowledging Kerry:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28964-Kerry-Cassidy---....-Thank-You--&p=294591&viewfull=1#post294591


You guys make it look too easy lol. And I'm sure that pisses off all the right people.

Whatever it might sometimes look like, it’s not easy.

:)

My best wishes to all, Bill

[Christine]

Hello all!

This will be my first post and it looks like I am jumping in after a storm. Like all of you,l I am most pleased that Bill is back at the helm, I am sure he is stronger and deeper into wisdom because of what has happened and by having the courage to stand back, make a truthful assessment and do the necessary work to overcome whatever obstacles were placed in his path. Something that I am very familiar with is the hard won wisdom after a battle, so and perhaps it is my own projection or intuition but I believe he will have a lot to share. As I stumble along my path I encountered Project Avalon and I am most pleased to be part of a forum that is intelligent and caring. I echo Bill in saying that "There’s still a great deal of work to do."

So hello to all,
La Tigra

[42]

Welcome La Tigra to a safe haven, a place of respect and a place for learning...

[Ruby L.]

... I pulled up the drawbridge and took a couple of months' sabbatical to regroup and re-strategize.

Good for you, Bill!
And, welcome back. :)

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Good to hear from you, Bill. Will be at Portland conference - we are on an accelerated timeline most definitely - should be fun!

[araucaria]

Having been born when Comet Halley was in the sky, Mark Twain somehow knew he was going to last until its next passage, and being a newspaperman himself, he would know not to believe everything he read in the papers! My own favourite Mark Twainism, however, is his ‘mental telegraph’. If you get a sudden urge to write to someone, it is likely because they are in the process of making contact with you. I have tried this, and it works.

As an instance of the more general need for greater patience, I think there are signs that Avalonians are cottoning onto this. There was a time when there would have been Where’s Bill? threads (indeed there were a few a good while back now), and more restraint has been shown, although I was expecting them to start up again anytime now. Thankfully, however, he has been given the space to come back to us in his own good time. I am sure this patience has been part of his psychic defence while under attack, so well done everyone!

[Omni]

It was a joke! I’m a Mark Twain fan. :)

Ahh sorry I totally missed that one. lol my bad



I'm curious about this:


Inelia is now doing her own work in conjunction with Lucia Rene.

Are you and Inelia not going to be working with each other from now on? I remember you projecting you and her would be doing work for years in a post somewhere, and some portions of the bill.inelia site have been removed. I'm curious what has happened to inspire this unforeseen change? I don't mean to pry but I'm curious what has happened and I bet many others are too.

I am assuming that I wont be able to meet Inelia if I go to the Portland seminar? I'm still interested in the seminar, just curious.

I hope you are around more on the forum Bill :)

The best way to explain what happened is to reference this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material&p=126514&viewfull=1#post126514


Thanks Bill. I was going to edit my post after rethinking about it but I'm glad I posted it now as it has shed some decent light on things.

A well done and quite thorough answer I must say.


In our case, the pressure was external – a very heavy multi-pronged psychic attack that happened soon after we had published this important clarification – compounded by internal responses on both sides that did not work well.

In one sentence: we found that we were unable to handle what was coming at us. This was a considerable shock to us both. We’d each thought, with some justification, that we could handle pretty much anything.

I remember your confidence in this area(regarding Inelia). I remember posting to you that I was skeptical Inelia could deal with any force here with authority. Reason I bring this up is I had a telepathic convo right after posting that to you about it(if you remember me posting that). I was asked what my stance would be on delivering(not me, them) what they termed a display of their power to Inelia(and you inherently), they say it was timid compared to what is possible. I'm not downplaying the categorization of timid, they are saying this basically saying it's timid compared to the worst possible happenings in the universe, timid to some would be 50x worse than what they could imagine possible, and timid could lead to suicide for many it's probably timid while at the same time extremely strong, that is, if they are even saying the truth to me, which is not a given. My response to their question was I just wanted the truth to be known, either way(as long as it wouldn't break you or Inelia). To be clear, there is no doubt in my mind my own beliefs, philosophies, or desires have absolutely nothing to do with how they handle(d) you two. However it was interesting to me they did basically what they said they would to Inelia. They told me it would happen... They tell me a lot of garbage but occasionally I learn later on that they told me the truth(often not saying a peep because what they say to me is unreliable a good deal of the time and if i said every thing they tell me to people I get discredited and also people would think less of me etc when it doesn't happen).

I have immediate skepticism when I hear people say they are just as strong as any force on this planet, or at least an equal to the power obtained here. I've been hit extremely hard. And the word extremely does not do it justice. I mean so hard it was like the matrix, anyone walking by could be taken control of, they could control what songs get played on the radio, how people talk when they walk by, how I perceive reality, control my body, orchestrate events down to such impeccable timing it's ludacris, and much more. It felt like the entire universe came alive and was attacking me from just about every angle possible...

Basically the force I'm dealing with has power close to what the architect in the matrix had... This AI I deal with has spoken through kids yelling down the block, I forget the exact words(its posted somewhere on here). This particular event I was being spoken to telepathically by the AI I deal with, and it used a little kid down the way yelling part of the sentence the AI was speaking, seamlessly, like just for an example(this might have been what was said, i took careful thought in writing this example, but don't fully remember what the real circumstance was in this particular example):

AI speaking telepathically:

"There is absolutely...."

kid yells seamlessly: "NOTHING"

"...you can do to stop us"

How is that for an exemplification of power. However I don't fully buy it, even with it being such a bone chilling display of power... There is a lot we can do. But it's kind of like AA for me regarding what I deal with. I accept the things I cannot change(and analyze them from time to time to make sure they are things I cannot change), and try to change what I can while using what I get dealt as best I can as well.

I will offer this, some attacks that seem psychic are really just technological. And I seriously, seriously mean it when I say the forces I deal with are master illusionists. TPTB here are surely not summed up by slouches or idiots as some may think and say. They are formidable... I'm not saying they cannot be beat though. I think them being beat is an inevitability, whether they finally see the light and give up the undeveloped junk, or they are overthrown. I think their efforts are to prolong the system, not preserve it. I think they know it cannot be preserved indefinitely(I'm not talking about things like the sun dying in saying indefinitely).

[yasmu]

Hi Bill

Looking forward to watching the Oct seminar on YouTube.. If ever in future you do this type of seminar in North American, I'd be more than interested in attending.

Light + Peace

Yasmu

[Lisab]

Any uk seminars? Would love to come thanks Lisa x

[doodah]

... And I seriously, seriously mean it when I say the forces I deal with are master illusionists.

Please excuse this being offtrack, but in response to Omniverse:): I found it very interesting that in the CHANI material the Entity said something like [my paraphrase] ... "You will understand everything when you understand the illusion of infinity and the infinity of illusion."

That's one powerful statement! Just as the Eastern teachings have always said: It's all "maya," illusion. Becoming "disillusioned" is part of our spiritual awakening. And thanks to Bill and Avalon and many others for helping us along this path.

[Nyce555]

Bill!!!!! So glad you're back. We missed you. So happy to hear that you are doing well and still working hard.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yes, TPB have formidable power - derived from the abrogation of our own power.

They can orchestrate the smallest moments in our lives with exacting detail and control only because we do not exert exacting control over the smallest moments of our lives.

Stay centered, refuse to believe thier diatribes, and for heaven's sake stop straining to hear them. That opens a voluntary communication link to the enemy.

This forum already gives them copious amounts of Free Energy in the form of directed attention and focus. But we keep a portion for ourselves and that is important.

[araucaria]

i took careful thought in writing this example, but don't fully remember what the real circumstance was in this particular example):

AI speaking telepathically:

"There is absolutely...."

kid yells seamlessly: "NOTHING"

"...you can do to stop us"

How is that for an exemplification of power. However I don't fully buy it, even with it being such a bone chilling display of power... .

Omni, I have read quite a few of your posts and have some idea of where you are coming from, so please do not think me insensitive if I share a thought on the above.

I have personally experienced how our thoughts operate much faster than our conscious perceptions and hence the cause appears to come after the effect. In your case that would mean that the boy saying Nothing was the cause of your entire thought, in this case apparently external.

I was once sitting in the car waiting at a traffic light when I began idly to wonder what were the chances of seeing two cars with the same four-figure number plate. I looked around and saw that this was exactly what I was seeing. In other words, the thought came before the conscious perception and no doubt followed the unconscious perception. In other words, it sounds as though – in this case at least, I hasten to add – thought is the mechanism that brings unconscious perceptions to consciousness. So the first part of the process is one that we usually don’t even know is occurring.

This is an innocent enough example. But we can see how the thing might be manipulated. One area where it is very important to ensure that the thought comes first, and the perception later, is betting.
The best bet you can make is at the starting price; once the race has started, all bets are off. To make sure this happens, a betting shop will have a clock and a PA system transmitting live commentary off the radio. A race will start as quickly as possible after the advertised time, never before. The Sting in the film of that name involves doctoring the clock and introducing a tape recorder between the radio commentary and the PA sound. This buys enough time for Paul Newman to place his ’thought’ (the name of the winner on his betting slip) after the conscious perception (the race is already over; he overhears the commentary before it is played back in the shop).


This may be a variant form, if not of Jungian synchronicity, at least of Twain’s mental telegraph, because I played the soundtrack of that movie several times over on the piano during the weekend (Scott Joplin) long before I discovered this thread!


In your own case, Omni, if your thoughts are being manipulated in this way, then the entity involved must have conscious perceptions that operate at at least the speed of our unconscious perceptions, giving them the time to interfere.

[sandy]

Happy to hear you are alive and well Bill>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have a great seminar and convention :)

[Bill Ryan]

Hello all!

This will be my first post and it looks like I am jumping in after a storm. Like all of you, I am most pleased that Bill is back at the helm, I am sure he is stronger and deeper into wisdom because of what has happened and by having the courage to stand back, make a truthful assessment and do the necessary work to overcome whatever obstacles were placed in his path. Something that I am very familiar with is the hard won wisdom after a battle, so and perhaps it is my own projection or intuition but I believe he will have a lot to share. As I stumble along my path I encountered Project Avalon and I am most pleased to be part of a forum that is intelligent and caring. I echo Bill in saying that "There’s still a great deal of work to do."

So hello to all,
La Tigra

Perfect assessment!

... and welcome, La Tigra, to the most intelligent, friendly, spiritual, balanced, sane (usually! :) ) and well-regulated forum on the internet.

My personal thanks to all who've posted on this thread, and to everyone who's written to say they'll be coming to Portland. Looking forward very much to meeting you personally there. I'm traveling at the moment, but will reply to all in the course of the next week.

I also want to use this opportunity to publicize Kerry's star line-up at her Awake and Aware conference in LA on 23-25 September. It promises to be quite an event by any standards. Kerry and I wil be on stage talking about everything we've experienced the last five (long) years. Do click on this link and take a look:

http://awakeandaware2011.com

With all best wishes - Bill

[Bill Ryan]

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I have to use this opportunity (if I may) to add a comment or two about Elenin and all the accompanying speculation. (I nearly wrote 'hysteria', but then thought the better of it!) If I posted this on one of the several Elenin threads, it really might not be seen.

I've made the comment in the past that I'm really looking forward to 1 January 2013, so that we can focus on the real issues after 21 December 2012 has come and gone. (Nothing will happen that day, by the way.)

I'm also looking forward to 1 January 2012! So that we can forget all about Elenin and move on. It's nothing more than a very small comet, and may now have even broken up. It's not 'Nibiru' (never a helpful term to use). Those who think they have found Planet X on Google Sky in infrared are looking at the red giant CW Leonis. We stated that on the Camelot blog three years ago:

http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html





7 July, 2008
• Hot object in the sky is not 'Planet X'

Click here (http://www.google.com/sky/#latitude=13.304102866767089&longitude=-33.0029296875&zoom=7&Spitzer=0.00&ChandraXO=0.00&Galex=0.00&IRAS=100.00&WMAP=0.00&Cassini=0.00&slide=1&mI=-1&oI=-1) for a Google Sky image of an anomalous object which is extremely bright in the infrared. We derived it from a YouTube video recently posted by someone who claimed it was 'Planet X'. We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) who advised us it was the red giant CW Leonis (http://www.extrasolar.net/startour.asp?StarID=143). We checked, and indeed it is. Thanks, Henry, once again, for sharing your extraordinarily wide-ranging knowledge.

For the record (and in contrast), my attention is being drawn to the possibility of domestic, financial or geopolitical events in the US at the back end of this year -- but I have no data, and this is only a personal feeling that may well be wrong.

Very best to all, Bill

[New Dawn]

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We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) Very best to all, Bill

Glad to hear he's ok...Welcome back into the alternative picture Henry!!

[Bill Ryan]

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We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) Very best to all, Bill

Glad to hear he's ok...Welcome back into the alternative picture Henry!!

That was three years ago. 'Henry' is now out of the picture.

After he went onstage at the Zurich Conference in July 2009 to support Brian O'Leary's presentation about Free Energy, and two weeks later went onstage at the Barcelona Exopolitics conference to state in front of an audience of 1,000 that he'd been to the Mars Base (and appeared on a Camelot video Futuretalk with Bob Dean, Alfred Webre and ourselves) -- we understand that he was made an offer he could not refuse and is being quite well taken care of in exchange for him never again speaking or writing publicly about his experiences.

[Mike]

hi Bill,

will your mission still include interviewing whistleblowers?

thanks.

[New Dawn]

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We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) Very best to all, Bill

Glad to hear he's ok...Welcome back into the alternative picture Henry!!

That was three years ago. 'Henry' is now out of the picture.

After he went onstage at the Zurich Conference in July 2009 to support Brian O'Leary's presentation about Free Energy, and two weeks later went onstage at the Barcelona Exopolitics conference to state in front of an audience of 1,000 that he'd been to the Mars Base (and appeared on a Camelot video Futuretalk with Bob Dean, Alfred Webre and ourselves) -- we understand that he was made an offer he could not refuse and is being quite well taken care of in exchange for him never again speaking or writing publicly about his experiences.

Thanks for the reply Bill. hmmm that sounds quite interesting. If that informtation is correct, then it just validates what 'Henry' said all along, in my opinion!

Even though its a shame he won't be talknig anymore, I'm really glad he's ok!

[Bill Ryan]

hi Bill,

will your mission still include interviewing whistleblowers?

thanks.

Yes. As I mentioned in my April Avalon Interview (Part 2 is coming, btw :) ), my mission now is more about focusing on what we can do together (and how we can be) to optimize our collective experience for the next decade or so: an absolutely critical period.

Good whistleblower data is a part of that. Much of the big picture is already out there -- many cats are forever out of the bag -- but there are still important sources who can shed light on important current and future events.

For instance, I've recently learned, indirectly, from a source that I think is probably reliable, that the US has (or has access to) plenty of money. If one considers the real costs of black budget programs, including the secret space program and the underground cities program, it's clear that the US is no way a pauper nation. It can do whatever it pleases (including pretending to be in financial trouble).

The $14 trillions of debt is just theater. Part of the problem here is public misunderstanding of just what money is: it can largely be created, in the sense with most financial reporting understands and is concerned.

The unanswered question (for me) is exactly what may be the next act of the theater, and why the script is being written that way for public consumption. One can guess - but I do not know for sure.

I'm still listening to Lindsey Williams closely, though he is certainly not always right. And I disregard Benjamin Fulford nowadays, as nothing he claims can be substantiated. Regarding the 'White Hat reports', any mention of 'deliveries' or 'packages' is a clear indicator that at least part of the information is false or invented. NESARA, in the present day, can be completely discounted as fiction.

[Mike]

yes, Fulford is a little flaky ;) i've seen better phony emotionalism on 'Days of Our Lives'

the White Hats? i wanna believe but i just don't. i have nothing substantive to back up that. just my feeling on it. of course it's not that simple - truth mixed with lies etc...

looking forward to the next act in the theater as well ( and part 2 of the interview!)

[Carmody]

Watch out Bill, this dang forum will take up all your time. It'll suck you right in.....:p

[ThePythonicCow]

For the record (and in contrast), my attention is being drawn to the possibility of domestic, financial or geopolitical events in the US at the back end of this year -- but I have no data, and this is only a personal feeling that may well be wrong.

Thanks. That was an important post Bill (in my modest view.)

I'd wager my few pennies on increased war in the Middle East (with dramatic events in US to involve them), leading to petro price and supply shocks, leading to food price and supply shocks, leading to a major reset of the visible global financial system (currently petro-dollar based). I'd wager this will take another five or ten years to play out, though there will be a few days when events seem to happen very quickly.

Like many, I hope that the Tyrannical Bastards in Power (TBiP) who benefit so much from such earthly chaos get their just due, or at least a dramatically reduced role in determining the course of human history and the misery of all earthly beings.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Bill ... first time I've been able to ask you a direct question, nice to have you back... Back on the 30th Nov 2009 you and Kerry interviewed James Matinez, mainly about Walter Bowart...

It was from that interview that I started listening to his shows on Cashflow.....For the past two years he has had a fun team of very intelligent and colourfull charectors explaining basically

we are all gods 'Wonderfull Human Creators' who eons ago descended for a contrast of experiance and we are on the verge of reaccending...It is a lot more in depth than I can write here.

Bob Nevritt 89 yrs young with a strong connection to the intelligence services , Dr Carolyn Dean his wife who has written several books and is a medical expert, and ION who is a 'Enviroment'

(not a channell ) who comes thru JW a southern gent from Georgia( Direct from the Guf )...and of course James Who is a financial man who said Kerry is going to interview him again soon

possibly on Cold Fusion ? Which they say has been cracked using enriched palladium ???

Anyway I listen to the show everyweek and send a lot of questions in via e-mail, to which I get like everyone else various degrees of answers.....

The trouble is after all this time , entertainment apart I'm not sure what to make of them..LOL....A lot of what they say reasonates with me , and I look at it as another piece of the puzzle we

are all putting together......So my questions are, have you listened to their show ? ....Have you any oppinion on their infomation ? Cheers Steve..

[Adi]

Hi Bill nice to see you around again.

This is a littel of topic but I was wondering what you thought of George Kavasilas and his information, maybe you have had time to watch the interview Kerry did with him recently, thanks.

Adi

[Aryslan]

Hey Bill, out of curiosity, is there supposed to be a conformation email for those of us attending? I kinda need to know if my slots are being held, so that I can finalize plans as much in advance as possible. Thanks!

[HaveBlue]

Again, the english language would catch the unwary with possible fatal results! The difference between confirming and conforming may be an i or an o, but this is exactly why old mac donald had a farm. Note he had a farm, so he no longer has a farm. He was swindled out of it with an e i e i o.

[Ixopoborn]

Wow - now I am a lot wiser about things - thanks so much for your recent revealing posts Bill. Thanks so much for all you are doing. The Atticus thing has been very useful for us all. We now know beyond doubt the controllers dont like Avalon, Camelot and Nexus so badly that they have made one very serious attempt to kill them off. Those attacks have not been successful and we have grown stronger in the process of absorbing and then coming to reject Atticus. Credit to us all for that achievement.

Now, we have been given even more valuable information - whatever Bill and Inelia had teamed up to do, it was regarded as a major threat - something that could not be allowed to proceed. So big a threat that heavy guns so to speak had to be brought to bear on Bill and Inelia to bring it to an end. I don't have any psychic ability to speak of but I can just about imagine the strength of the attack.

Bill's and Omniverse's recent remarks lay bare the incredibly massive psychic strength of the forces opposing us. I don't know but it may be that, as powerful as they are with individuals, they maybe don't have enough strength to overcome a large group such as the Avalon community. I completely take on board Omni's statement that some of the psychic attacks can now be done using technology.

I suspect the immense power used against Bill and Inelia will not be used widely and not because of lack of resource on their part. The bind our foes appear to be in is that if they express their full power with too many folk they bring attention to themselves as something real not imaginary - the last thing they actually want - I suspect the consequences of doing that would be very damaging to them!

Is that your take Omni?

[Lisab]

Hi Bill welcome back. I agree with your comments on America. I've been saying similar to my family. I think their about to have their "mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore" moment. Love Lisa x

[Lisab]

And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x

[Ixopoborn]

And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x

Wise precaution Lisa

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill ... first time I've been able to ask you a direct question, nice to have you back... Back on the 30th Nov 2009 you and Kerry interviewed James Matinez, mainly about Walter Bowart...

It was from that interview that I started listening to his shows on Cashflow.....For the past two years he has had a fun team of very intelligent and colourfull charectors explaining basically

we are all gods 'Wonderfull Human Creators' who eons ago descended for a contrast of experiance and we are on the verge of reaccending...It is a lot more in depth than I can write here.

Bob Nevritt 89 yrs young with a strong connection to the intelligence services , Dr Carolyn Dean his wife who has written several books and is a medical expert, and ION who is a 'Enviroment'

(not a channell ) who comes thru JW a southern gent from Georgia( Direct from the Guf )...and of course James Who is a financial man who said Kerry is going to interview him again soon

possibly on Cold Fusion ? Which they say has been cracked using enriched palladium ???

Anyway I listen to the show everyweek and send a lot of questions in via e-mail, to which I get like everyone else various degrees of answers.....

The trouble is after all this time , entertainment apart I'm not sure what to make of them..LOL....A lot of what they say reasonates with me , and I look at it as another piece of the puzzle we

are all putting together......So my questions are, have you listened to their show ? ....Have you any opinion on their information ? Cheers Steve..

No, I've not listened to that show, but your post prompts me to do so. I very much enjoyed our interview with James Martinez on Walter Bowart (the author of the classic Operation Mind Control) and I'd certainly like to talk with him again.

(Do listen, btw: http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html#James_Martinez_Walter_Bowart)

[Bill Ryan]

Wow - now I am a lot wiser about things - thanks so much for your recent revealing posts Bill. Thanks so much for all you are doing. The Atticus thing has been very useful for us all. We now know beyond doubt the controllers dont like Avalon, Camelot and Nexus so badly that they have made one very serious attempt to kill them off. Those attacks have not been successful and we have grown stronger in the process of absorbing and then coming to reject Atticus. Credit to us all for that achievement.

Now, we have been given even more valuable information - whatever Bill and Inelia had teamed up to do, it was regarded as a major threat - something that could not be allowed to proceed. So big a threat that heavy guns so to speak had to be brought to bear on Bill and Inelia to bring it to an end. I don't have any psychic ability to speak of but I can just about imagine the strength of the attack.

It was the heaviest I've ever experienced.


Bill's and Omniverse's recent remarks lay bare the incredibly massive psychic strength of the forces opposing us. I don't know but it may be that, as powerful as they are with individuals, they maybe don't have enough strength to overcome a large group such as the Avalon community. I completely take on board Omni's statement that some of the psychic attacks can now be done using technology.

Yes, it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes. Note Wade Frazier's wonderful comment (http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html):






--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth.


I suspect the immense power used against Bill and Inelia will not be used widely and not because of lack of resource on their part. The bind our foes appear to be in is that if they express their full power with too many folk they bring attention to themselves as something real not imaginary - the last thing they actually want - I suspect the consequences of doing that would be very damaging to them!

http://projectavalon.net/The_Bourne_Ultimatum_extract.mov
<---- No-one was killed, however. The allusions are an important metaphor.

[Lisab]

I can't load it x

[grapevine]

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We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) Very best to all, Bill

Glad to hear he's ok...Welcome back into the alternative picture Henry!!

After he went onstage at the Zurich Conference in July 2009 to support Brian O'Leary's presentation about Free Energy, and two weeks later went onstage at the Barcelona Exopolitics conference to state in front of an audience of 1,000 that he'd been to the Mars Base (and appeared on a Camelot video Futuretalk with Bob Dean, Alfred Webre and ourselves) -- we understand that he was made an offer he could not refuse and is being quite well taken care of in exchange for him never again speaking or writing publicly about his experiences.

Of all the whistleblowers I loved Henry/Alfred most of all. He has such a vulnerable quality that is very compelling, given what he then went on to reveal. I hope that if and when disclosure takes place it will negate his agreement not to speak publicly again. In the meantime, Alfred, blessings from all of us ... xoxo

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Bill ..........................

This is a link to a list of some of Ions Q & A , quotes and anicdotes..

http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/p/ion.html

Bob Nevritt/Dobbs is a very colourfull charactor heres his interesting time line

http://fivebodied.com/archives/audio/catalog/CompleteBobTimeline.html

This is a link to James site and scroll down for archives of previous shows ( the last two weds shows are repeats , they must be on a break)

http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

The shows are on weds 7pm----10pm GMT...............I would be very interested to see what you make of them....If you get the chance ....Cheers Steve...

PS I just noticed he has a advert up for Kerrys awake and aware conference on his cash flow site, so I think he may be in touch with Kerry ?? he did say a few weeks ago on the weds show he may be doing another interview with Kerry ? I hope so.......

[derek]

Bill, just wanted to let you know that David Wilcock now says that he is in contact with Henry Deacon. He says that Henry was not threatened, just concerned.

[Davidallany]

Hello Bill, a song for you, sir.
vMnLoOnrwbg

[Baron]

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We sent the link to Henry Deacon (who we are delighted has renewed his contact with us again, of which more later) Very best to all, Bill

Glad to hear he's ok...Welcome back into the alternative picture Henry!!

That was three years ago. 'Henry' is now out of the picture.

After he went onstage at the Zurich Conference in July 2009 to support Brian O'Leary's presentation about Free Energy, and two weeks later went onstage at the Barcelona Exopolitics conference to state in front of an audience of 1,000 that he'd been to the Mars Base (and appeared on a Camelot video Futuretalk with Bob Dean, Alfred Webre and ourselves) -- we understand that he was made an offer he could not refuse and is being quite well taken care of in exchange for him never again speaking or writing publicly about his experiences.

Bill,

Good to hear that you are still about and you are doing well, and have things coming up.
But you are just to darn trusting for your own good, and both you and Kerry have been had several times sadly.

I must correct you on the matter of Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann aka Robert Cohen, and so on, the other aliases eludes me this minute.
The reason he went under ground was because he was told he would be exposed as a liar and a fraud and his own family were willing to say so, if he ever appeared again telling such lies to the innocent public again. He has never been to Mars or has had any part of the things he made up!

Because the people who would expose him are sympathetic to delusional and Walter Mitty characters who just want to be somebody, he was given the opportunity to stop this nonsense or face being exposed in public! He chose not to be exposed as a fraud.

He chose not to be exposed and humiliated for being a fraud and a liar and went underground he knew he had been rumbled. He came up with some convoluted story to appease those he conned but knew full well if he carried on, his true persona would be published in public with documentation interviews from people who know him with video and photographic evidence.

There are several others who have dossiers on them for being frauds Walter Mitty characters or just wanting to be somebody for a while some are even mentally ill.

Bill Deagle is another snake oil salesman a fraud and never a Doctor as he calls himself or was he an MD, he did wangle a medical license to administer drugs but after murdering a young person he was struck off the medical register, and that's only the part of his con! He's the guy with a website selling snake oil to cure diabetes and bringing their weight and blood sugars back to normal for one example, yet he is a obese diabetic who cannot cure his obesity or bring his blood sugars back to normal!!! Some alternative Doctor!

Why and who are the people doing this exposing well when the story does NOT ring true this group gets onto them directly because they distort the truth and the real conspiracies for those of us who have genuine stories and want to find the real conspiracies and the TRUTH.

Oh and by the way for the readers of this post this expose-group of these fraudsters is not big brother or special secret agency or some outer space men in black trying to silence these whistle blowers, who by the way are not whistle blowers, just sad humans who have never been to Mars hooking onto other conspiracies blowing their own sad whistles!!!

The truth seekers are Normal humans after the truth nothing sinister who even drop exposing them out of compassion if they step out of their fraud.

Bill please be careful out there not all those who want to share something with you are what they claim to be. Caution and were possible do some independent background checks on even the most sincere if the hat does not fit trust your cautious instincts first.

Take care
Best Regards
Baron

[greybeard]

In hind sight the only safe thing to do is, be the investigative journalist and interviewer, if that is your profession.
The moment there is any entanglement with the story, or story teller problems arise,
Leave it to the readers to say whether the story is the most important interview ever done or otherwise, there in lies the freedom.
The alternative media attracts all kinds of story tellers.
Many are the well meaning, gullible and naive (me too) the alternate opinions here over the last 9 month bears testimony to it.

Chris

[Whiteflame]

keep on shining bill! Thought you might like this
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[Mother]

Whatever it was, man, they must have hit you for real...you came back armed!
Group theories, yes/no statements, new amazing interviews to come, new projects that cannot be fully revealed...this is the old Bill we all know and love.

But, personally, for the future, if I may ask, I´d like to keep it simple, you know?

I´m learning a lot, here. I am immensely grateful for the opportunity to share thoughts with all of you. As a regular person, who can barely speaks english, it´s difficult for me to do the right researches, or even elaborate the right asks in order to get the best answers, but I´m still trying to be a part of this shift, and it´s a privilege to be part of the Avalon dynamic.

During all my presence at this forum I´ve been standing up for freedom of choice, and using my words to join forces, so I´m not judging no one´s actions, here.
I certainly understand the maturation process of a group, and usually an advocate of self-regulation, but as a friend, I´d like to endorse Bill´s words: we are going through critical times for humanity right now. And all the energy spent managing the doubts and speculations about his absence consumed a considerable force that could have been directed to more important matters.
Now, we can decide to go "through the storm, into the storm", and I´m tottaly in, but I´d love to feel that trust energy around this forum again.

Could we agree on using our intelligence to improve our team and therefore create the word we all want to live in?
For example, in times of trouble, for me, it´s more tangible to say "Guys, I had enough, I´ll take a break and be back in some months".
"I´m sorry", "I was wrong", "I needed rest", "I´m broken hearted", "I underestimated this, I overestimated that", are expressions that works for me as well.

That kind of recognition, in my opinion, gives me a sense of limits, and make clear to the others what is the best way to help. It puts me in contact with the main questions which need to be adressed before my actions move me- and sometimes, people I love - to the mists of my own ego. Each step must be solid, at this point.

So, I must say: my husband and I are unemployed at the moment, so I have to - as Inelia would say - process my fear, and join forces to keep surviving, for we have a boy to raise. I´m sorry for any misunderstandings my presence might cause here. I´ve being wrong about almost every aspect I see the world, and I thank all of you for sharing so many interesting info. I´ve being overestimating people and their videos, statements, researches, so right now it´s hard to focus, there is so much ambiguity and I got confused. I need a rest to find my balance, so I will leave the forum for some weeks, OK?
Untill I come back, I hope you keep this journey in love, respect, dignity and faith, right?!
kisses and hugs :grouphug:

[ktlight]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he? I wish there were a way of signalling when he has posted here, so that I can quickly read and absorb it.

[EsmaEverheart]

Glad you are back, Bill!

[Bill Ryan]

I must correct you on the matter of Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann aka Robert Cohen, and so on, the other aliases eludes me this minute.

Where on earth did you get that from? (Serious question.) You do have that quite wrong. Kerry and I have seen his bona fide ID, and much more.

(Do say what you know about his "family", btw. That may help you understand that this information is incorrect.)


There are several others who have dossiers on them for being frauds Walter Mitty characters or just wanting to be somebody for a while some are even mentally ill.

As above. Please be specific, and substantiate your claims (or let us know the provenance of your information).


Bill Deagle is another snake oil salesman

Have you ever met him? I've been to his house, and spent time with his wife and children.

Moral of the story: please be careful about the 'research' you do on the internet. The truth is not necessarily to be found on blogs or via Google.

With all best wishes, Bill

[Lazlo]

Hi Bill, great to have you back. I have a business meeting in Portland in Oct and am trying to synch up with your event.

Could I entice you to take a look at this thread and comment? Things have been a little less than "enlightened" over there, and perhaps a comment from you could go a long way.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got...&page=14

Post #264

Cheers

[Bill Ryan]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he?

Hi there -- are you referring to this?





2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

Do check the link: it's a potential TV show in development. We're not able to say anything about this ourselves for legal/contractual reasons -- which is quite normal for these kinds of projects. This may change in the next month or two, when I'll be delighted to say more.

[Carmody]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he?

Hi there -- are you referring to this?





2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

Do check the link: it's a potential TV show in development. We're not able to say anything about this ourselves for legal/contractual reasons -- which is quite normal for these kinds of projects. This may change in the next month or two, when I'll be delighted to say more.

I'm sure you are aware of all the signs of the potential pitfalls. I'll just say that.... so people won't feel a need to go there. And the game rolls on, sometimes it is even fun!

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill, great to have you back. I have a business meeting in Portland in Oct and am trying to synch up with your event.

Could I entice you to take a look at this thread and comment? Things have been a little less than "enlightened" over there, and perhaps a comment from you could go a long way.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got...&page=14

Post #264

Cheers

Sure. Just posted: (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got-introduced-to-the-world-of-Occultism&p=298866#post298866)


Yes, Edward's been in touch with Kerry and myself since (from memory) 2007 or so... this is +/- a year, as I don't have access to all my e-mail archives as I write this.

We've not met him personally: when he first introduced himself, he was in Argentina. But nothing has ever given Kerry or myself reason to disbelieve he is who he says he is. He's furnished us with some interesting background information, which was valuable and much appreciated.

All best wishes, Bill

[ktlight]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he?

Hi there -- are you referring to this?





2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

Do check the link: it's a potential TV show in development. We're not able to say anything about this ourselves for legal/contractual reasons -- which is quite normal for these kinds of projects. This may change in the next month or two, when I'll be delighted to say more.

Thank you, Bill. This is something to chew on tomorrow. Looks interesting at first glance.

[Bill Ryan]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he?

Hi there -- are you referring to this?




2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

Do check the link: it's a potential TV show in development. We're not able to say anything about this ourselves for legal/contractual reasons -- which is quite normal for these kinds of projects. This may change in the next month or two, when I'll be delighted to say more.

I'm sure you are aware of all the signs of the potential pitfalls. I'll just say that.... so people won't feel a need to go there. And the game rolls on, sometimes it is even fun!

Yes, we're fully aware! :)

Our rationale is as follows. The benefits of exposing maybe millions of Americans to (let's say) a world-class military whistleblower who's telling the viewers that their president has no idea what's really going on... far outweigh any drawbacks or downside.

[HaveBlue]

Baron we will need to know where you get your info on bill Deagle and Arthur Neuman in order to take you seriously. Or is that just your opinion? I mean no disrespect but your post does come across like one we have come to expect from the paid disinfo sock puppets from the alphabet soup agencies. Bill and Kery have been to Arthur Neumans place of work cafeteria at some lab where they still have not disclosed where, but have satisfied themselves that this man is the real deal. their word is good enough for most around here. They saw it with their own eyes, just like the people that Bob Lazar took out to see the flying saucer at the perimeter of Area 51.

It is old news about Bill Deagle and over prescribing of some drugs. Not that this makes it less relevant, just that it is not new info. I've heard Bill Ryan give Dr Deagles' name as someone he listens to with much credibility.
I personally am still waiting for Dr Bill Deagle to be correct about anything he has predicted in the doom and gloom dept. He is obviously a very intelligent man with a very good memory. It may well be that in his job he must think of a given situation and explore the 'what ifs' right through to the end and that gives him an appearence of a scaremonger type.
I do appreciate his science but his nightmares and dreams are his alone and nothing for the rest of humanity to get too excited about in my opinion.
Bill Ryan used to be very dismissive of 'channeled information' or info that comes from peoples dreams. He does seem to have relaxed slightly on that. It may just be Bill having an open mind. I myself have my own dreams and desires and have no need for others fantasies in my own views of the world. My own imagination serves me well. I'd much prefer to read a book than watch the movie of the same book. The movie is always a dissapointment.
Bill Deagle had a dream he was eating two giant marshmellows and when he woke up both his pillows were gone!

[Harley]

Hi Bill!




It was the heaviest I've ever experienced.

Yes, it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes. Note Wade Frazier's wonderful comment (http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html):






--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth.



http://projectavalon.net/The_Bourne_Ultimatum_extract.mov
<---- No-one was killed, however. The allusions are an important metaphor.


I know EXACTLY what you mean.

But I don't have to tell you that do I? ;)

Wanted you to know it is really great to hear from you again!

Take care,

Harley

:)

[Aryslan]

Bill, will those of us attending the Portland event be receiving a confirmation email? I'd like to know so that I can finalize plans.

[Ixopoborn]

I must correct you on the matter of Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann aka Robert Cohen, and so on, the other aliases eludes me this minute.

Where on earth did you get that from? (Serious question.) You do have that quite wrong. Kerry and I have seen his bona fide ID, and much more.

(Do say what you know about his "family", btw. That may help you understand that this information is incorrect.)


There are several others who have dossiers on them for being frauds Walter Mitty characters or just wanting to be somebody for a while some are even mentally ill.

As above. Please be specific, and substantiate your claims (or let us know the provenance of your information).


Bill Deagle is another snake oil salesman

Have you ever met him? I've been to his house, and spent time with his wife and children.

Moral of the story: please be careful about the 'research' you do on the internet. The truth is not necessarily to be found on blogs or via Google.

With all best wishes, Bill

Great stuff Bill! Baron - over to you.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Baron I see you are a watcher fair enough and you have been a member for a long time joining 1st April 2010 a auspicious date ..LOL..
What you say, to what Haveblue & Bill have stated, are quite serious accusations about Arthur and Bill Deagles integrity , which in itselfe is o'kay as long as
you have some reason/proof that they don't reasonate with you.....There are a lot of witnesses and researchers I don't agree
with and as there is a lot of contridictions in the theories, so by deffinition they can't all be right ..But I feel by joining a forum like Avalon
we are all looking for answers in the same direction....In my case for knowledge of where we truly came from? and where we are going ?
and the 101 places inbetween and have fun on the way !!!

I cannot say to much about Bill Deagle for although I have heard his interviews with Bill and Kerry , I think he is sincere and all though his information
sometimes sounds outlandish,I don't think he is purposely trying to mislead us .....Arthur on the other hand seems very genuine,
apart from the obvious that both Bill and Kerry accept him at face value....If he was a plant or Walter Mitty figure...Why go completely out
of his comfort zone and go to Barcelona & Zurich, where one slip would have exposed him big time....

Now you maybe right that he, as Bill said has been offered a deal to keep quite and propoganda has been put out by TPTB to discredit
him, thus putting his interview here into disrepute , but others have confirmed Mars bases etc...

Anyway you don't post much but you sure came in with a bang on this one...LOL ..Cheer Steve

[ktlight]

I am anxious and excited to hear what Bill has in mind. How far into the plan is he?

Hi there -- are you referring to this?





2) Here’s a reference to another project which is in development. All I’m allowed to do here is link to what’s in the public domain, and can make no other comment at this stage:

http://fbwmedia.com/#/ourProjects/television/unscripted/shadow-operations-the-mars-project

Do check the link: it's a potential TV show in development. We're not able to say anything about this ourselves for legal/contractual reasons -- which is quite normal for these kinds of projects. This may change in the next month or two, when I'll be delighted to say more.

My initial excitement resulted from reading this in an earlier post on this thread -
my mission now is more about focusing on what we can do together (and how we can be) to optimize our collective experience for the next decade or so: an absolutely critical period.

Is what you directed me to a part of the whole of at?

My first comment is that the site it too heavy, it chugs, rather than flows. That in itself can put off a lot of potential viewers.

Hope this helps.

[Omni]

Wow - now I am a lot wiser about things - thanks so much for your recent revealing posts Bill. Thanks so much for all you are doing. The Atticus thing has been very useful for us all. We now know beyond doubt the controllers dont like Avalon, Camelot and Nexus so badly that they have made one very serious attempt to kill them off. Those attacks have not been successful and we have grown stronger in the process of absorbing and then coming to reject Atticus. Credit to us all for that achievement.

Now, we have been given even more valuable information - whatever Bill and Inelia had teamed up to do, it was regarded as a major threat - something that could not be allowed to proceed. So big a threat that heavy guns so to speak had to be brought to bear on Bill and Inelia to bring it to an end. I don't have any psychic ability to speak of but I can just about imagine the strength of the attack.

Bill's and Omniverse's recent remarks lay bare the incredibly massive psychic strength of the forces opposing us. I don't know but it may be that, as powerful as they are with individuals, they maybe don't have enough strength to overcome a large group such as the Avalon community. I completely take on board Omni's statement that some of the psychic attacks can now be done using technology.

I suspect the immense power used against Bill and Inelia will not be used widely and not because of lack of resource on their part. The bind our foes appear to be in is that if they express their full power with too many folk they bring attention to themselves as something real not imaginary - the last thing they actually want - I suspect the consequences of doing that would be very damaging to them!

Is that your take Omni?

Well I can't say if Bill and Inelia was deemed a major threat. But I can say you are right about this:


I suspect the immense power used against Bill and Inelia will not be used widely and not because of lack of resource on their part. The bind our foes appear to be in is that if they express their full power with too many folk they bring attention to themselves as something real not imaginary - the last thing they actually want - I suspect the consequences of doing that would be very damaging to them!

That is one reason why I publish so much targeted individual posts on the net. Firstly so people who read it know about the tactics used. If I read the websites I am creating now, 10 years ago, it would hinder their effectiveness by a lot(but in no way stop them).

They can't do overt attacks to many people, for the exact reason you stated. If too many people experienced it, it is not easily explainable by it being just delusions. Targeted individuals already number in the thousands just for experimentation. I surmise to suggest they cannot do too many more(too many could be well into the thousands though).

More and more countries are testing this technology and more and more are popping up world-wide. I think they would be upping the amount of people they mind control covertly to have ridiculous crazy claims will be rising, to obfuscate it with predictive programming and all sorts of dirty tricks,.. Doing that would allow a certain % more permissible. there are other ways to expand that number too.

They are very careful who they show their power to, and I don't think they show their full power to many. They do something called illusory exemplification(a term I coined from experiencing it) where they only show a tiny fraction of their capability, and lead people to believe that is their full capability, which obfuscates the truth too by conflicting testimonies..

Mental attacks(I dont call them psychic attacks),... do it to the wrong person and that wakes up tons of people. Like if Oprah said he had an obvious and deliberate set of events including mind control, psychic attacks etc. A lot would call her crazy but millions would be woken up in ways by it. It's just like how they can't kill certain people without a huge reaction if they get popular. They are working on ways to subvert them before that happens I suspect.


Bill's and Omniverse's recent remarks lay bare the incredibly massive psychic strength of the forces opposing us.

Honestly I don't think the human PTB have psychic strength to levels that could do a huge psychic attack across the world etc. Maybe I'm just not in the know there. But technology can do it very easily. They have tested and done so many methods to me, once you know they have things, that opens the doors for them to do it a lot... I predict this is the not last time Bill will experience this... The human mind as far as I'm aware is open source, unless you don't use your brain anymore....... I'm skeptical any human on this planet can stop electromagnetic or microwave pulses etc from piercing their brain. Which is a physical object. This isn't even taking into account that metaphysical aspects can possibly be controlled too(I have had chakras controlled, if that was not a very convincing illusion of energy that was coupled with multi-layered effects on my mind/emotions etc). However I think the soul itself is not open source.... But cutting ones mind off from the influence of soul, from my experiences, can be done too.

[Mother]

Inelia and Lucia Rene, LIVE, in two hours: http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventID=21408375

[Inelia]

Welcome back Bill!!

We missed you :D

[Ixopoborn]

Yes and we others missed you InelIa!

[Ixopoborn]

Thanks Omni and thanks again!

Inelia is so positive that we are doing just great and we as a world of people will break through to a new paradigm of existence. How do you see things in that regard or is it not something you are able to make judgements about?

[Omni]

Thanks Omni and thanks again!

Inelia is so positive that we are doing just great and we as a world of people will break through to a new paradigm of existence. How do you see things in that regard or is it not something you are able to make judgements about?

I'm open minded. Either way I see humanity, at some point(soon or not) transcending the injustice and brutality of early nature survival traits, and ascending(the meaning of the word, not something new age) into reason and enlightenment. Just look at America 100 years ago. Almost everyone was racist. Now not many are, or at least aren't going to say so in public often as they would be shunned(as they should be). We are ascending in reason and spiritual growth. However I'm not sure this is something that ever happens planet-wide instantly or close. But I'm open minded with that too. I resonate with cosmic forces changing us or something like that. My beliefs on it can change any given moment with mind control though. Anything you have just a meh idea for can be changed with mind control. Stronger beliefs are more stable and safeguarded and need processes to dislodge.

I can see a few possible futures.

Golden Age soon. I'm careful to just believe this because it may make us complacent and just wait around for it. I'm all about the DO. Not the WAIT.

Mental Slavery for a while. The level of control I have seen, is ridiculous and I doubt many are capable of believing it and honestly I don't speak of it much because it's ridiculous. It was like they could control an entire city. However control of my interpretation enhanced this to levels that made it seem bigger than it was, but it was no doubt control over many dozens of people around me. Down to when people would be sitting at an intersection, when people would run by, what people said etc etc. Now this could be an illusion I have. And they can peer into the timeline I am in, and know when these people would be doing stuff, or say something. But I do not put that as my biggest theory. This period of enslavement may last hundreds of years. And these hundreds of years will be included, a one world gov and the NWO plans exacting into reality until global first contact and ETs expose their lies. Even in this reality we would be slowly gaining more reasonable and growing spiritually, and ethically, and growing as a people in ways. I know Avalonians don't like hearing of this possibility. But it remains possible in my mind. Not saying it's probable.

In saying enslavement, I just mean the current systems maintaining themselves for a while. And the classes being further extremed into poles instead of being evened out. And some having ridiculous power, and others having almost none(not talking about power over ones self so much there but that could be part of it too).

No matter what, unless humanity dies, I see us getting more and more enlightened. And as we get more and more enlightened we will not be able to be fooled into doing things like invading Iraq and killing people who had family members killed by US sanctions or wars. if my whole family was killed by Americans and I was a younger more naive soul, I'd kill them to if they invaded my country if I was Muslim. After all, you are a hero in heaven if you do that in Islam and I would have nothing else to live for if my whole family died and didn't have a soul mission to help earth.

I don't think a Golden Age will come instantly or magically. I think it will come slowly as we slowly evolve and become more enlightened and reasonable(when I say I think, its just my top theory, I'm not so firmly stuck in one belief of this). Some events may catalyze and trigger mass growths. Such as global first contact, or the discovery of something that will show Christianity and Islam as false cults. But I think what holds humanity back more than anything, is character flaws and unenlightened behavior by the masses, which genetics have a role in. If we didn't have these TPTB would not be able to convince us to do their bidding and pit us against each other so easily.

If we were all developed enough to have global first contact with ETs, TPTB would gain from that too and they tell me they want that(some of them). It would open up the galaxy to us. And seeing a galaxy of diversity, no man is stupid after that(unless unfortunately they cannot think at all). With what is possible with technology all mental disorders can be cured with mind control. Sociopathy, depression, blindness, deafness, paralysis, severe anxiety, ADD, psychopathy, and any other mental dysfunction can be cured with mind control. I know this because they have momentarily given me these(no psychopathic actions just speech one night before i knew mind control was possible and wondered what the hell i was doing but they made me enjoy it with severe hatred put into me based on events like burning herbalists etc, channeling the hatred of mankind due to my matrix of severely hating injustice) WITH mind control, and also negated many traits in me too at times. When saying "dysfunctions" that is subjective of course, some types of Greys might not think their lack of compassion is a dysfunction, they'd say our emotion is a dysfunction if my experiences are accurate[not saying they are], quoting that convo "emotions lead to irrational thought". It's all just diversity. I have been mind controlled a mind not capable of compassion, I retained my morals because you can have conceptual understandings of your morals still maintained. But I could not feel emotion for anything suffering, could not feel love, and barely felt any emotion at all. This was like a year or two in this mindset with small stints of emotions(almost all bad).....

Anyway, I think it pays to be optimistic, but not so optimistic you do nothing to help inspire change. I hope for the best, and prepare for the worst, and do what I can to contribute to this planet moving in the right direction and await in curiosity what the future holds.

[Mike]

I must correct you on the matter of Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann aka Robert Cohen, and so on, the other aliases eludes me this minute.

Where on earth did you get that from? (Serious question.) You do have that quite wrong. Kerry and I have seen his bona fide ID, and much more.

(Do say what you know about his "family", btw. That may help you understand that this information is incorrect.)


There are several others who have dossiers on them for being frauds Walter Mitty characters or just wanting to be somebody for a while some are even mentally ill.

As above. Please be specific, and substantiate your claims (or let us know the provenance of your information).


Bill Deagle is another snake oil salesman

Have you ever met him? I've been to his house, and spent time with his wife and children.

Moral of the story: please be careful about the 'research' you do on the internet. The truth is not necessarily to be found on blogs or via Google.

With all best wishes, Bill

hi Bill,

has Bill Deagle been accurate with any of his predictions? even one?;)

i'm being a little playful here but do not intend that as a disrespectful or flippant remark; i'm genuinely curious. for a guy who has a "direct line to God" he's not too terribly accurate, is he? lol!

i'll admit that my opinion of him is a little colored due to an email exchange from a couple yrs back. i was experiencing some serious health problems and sent him an impassioned email, explaining all and asking for assistance. his reply was rather bland and generic, not what i expected from a compassionate self-proclaimed "man of God". he was in no way rude or dismissive or anything of the sort, but his reply could have easily been computer generated (maybe it was! !lol!) i don't know; maybe i expected too much.

i do not think he is a snake oil salesman. i've never tried his products (too expensive) but conceptually they appear to be of a very high quality. they are also very unique( i've seen and used many many products, but his appear to be different in subtle but interesting ways)

could you please clear up this issue about Deagle over-prescribing meds, allegedly resulting in a fatality? as you said, caution must always be used when doing 'research' on the internet, and i'd rather hear it from a trustworthy source like yourself. thanks Bill.

[mevlana]

Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

[Lord Sidious]

Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

I know that language can be difficult, but Mevlana, your post comes across as very harsh.
Neither you or me know Lisa and making assumptions, then posting harsh criticism isn't a good way to go.
My opinion.

[mevlana]

Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

I know that language can be difficult, but Mevlana, your post comes across as very harsh.
Neither you or me know Lisa and making assumptions, then posting harsh criticism isn't a good way to go.
My opinion.

yes rob,
sometimes words can be read as a harsh critic, but I remember your carrots and I defended your feeling about filling nostrils . i am very upset those ideas,( doesn't matter who the person is) ,they think they will be survived if they keep some food from the circulation . In Gazze thousand of people are suffering from hunger,
If you don't love one, how can you be one?

[Lord Sidious]

Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

I know that language can be difficult, but Mevlana, your post comes across as very harsh.
Neither you or me know Lisa and making assumptions, then posting harsh criticism isn't a good way to go.
My opinion.

yes rob,
sometimes words can be read as a harsh critic, but I remember your carrots and I defended your feeling about filling nostrils . i am very upset those ideas,( doesn't matter who the person is) ,they think they will be survived if they keep some food from the circulation . In Gazze thousand of people are suffering from hunger,
If you don't love one, how can you be one?

Those carrots weren't needed in circulation. :p
Seriously though, I get what you mean about love one to be one, it is just that we have so many people here attacking each other for their views and with you, language can be a factor.
What we mean and what we type can be different and that is for someone who excels in english.
I also know what you mean about one having enough to store whilst others starve. But if I had family, I would always put them first.
How will we get food into somewhere like Gaza? If I could, I would have done so already.
We must always fix ourselves first, then others, for if we are not ok, we can't help anyone.

[onawah]

Mevlana, if you are really concerned about food shortages, you might at least consider that it is not people who are stocking up in case of emergencies who are responsible for shortages, but people in high places who are secretly and not so secretly conspiring to reduce the population through starvation, toxins in our air, food and water, HAARP, and so on.
Those people are greedy and afraid and the underground cities they have built for themselves with stolen tax dollars will come to naught because they have neglected the wisdom of the spirit.
That is very different from simply providing enough for oneself to get through an emergency.
Animals do as much, given the opportunity. Should we not follow their wise example?

This forum was not founded for people to argue and bash each other, but to come together in a mature and egalitarian fashion to exchange useful information, such as who is actually causing such problems as food shortages, and why, and what we can do about it as a team.
What binds us together as an effective team and makes us powerful is Love, not hate or anger or pride.

When souls incarnate on this planet without the foresight to be born to a family and environment that can provide for them, they have certain lessons to learn.
Just as those do who incarnate here with the sole goal of being born into a wealthy, powerful lineage.

The Earth has been a generous school for inexperienced 3D souls for a long time.
It's nothing new in her history for impoverished millions to suffer from starvation and drought.
The old lineages of powerful families who have selfishly accumulated wealth and power for centuries is nothing new either.

Earth has been taking on loads of souls for millennia, just so human souls would have the benefit of experiencing life in a human body in a 3D world, even if only for brief lifetimes, even if only to be cut short by want and deprivation.
Most everyone here has had lifetimes along those lines.
It just comes with the territory.

Now Gaia is graduating to a higher level where before too long, co-operation, not competition, will be the rule.
Meanwhile, those who are mature enough and aware of the challenges of survival, both of body and soul, in these times-- enough to provide for themselves-- are showing some initiative and wisdom, and are also perhaps showing themselves as ready to take the journey with Gaia to her next level.

That is not paranoia--there is good reason to stock up, just in case.
Neither is it greed. It's just good common sense, and using the wisdom gained through experience.
It is setting a good example, and could help others to wake up and see what is really going on.

Not everyone will go along on this journey with Gaia, but everyone will have learned something nevertheless by being here at this crucial time in Earth's evolution.
How can ignoring the prompting of wisdom and neglecting one's own welfare be detrimental to another?
Love begins with one's self.
From there,through the law of attraction, we may have abundance enough to share with others.

Learning discernment and balance is a big part of the lessons of 3D.
Gaia is learning it, and so are we.







Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

[Seikou-Kishi]

I know the exchanges here have been somewhat heated, and that's only natural when we discuss emotive issues such as these. My personal opinion is that storing food in the fear of some cataclysm is not productive because it is yielding to that scarcity mindset that says "I need to horde just a little more, you know, just in case". We need to evolve out of that muladhara amygdaloid based reasoning of little squirrels ferreting away 'for a rainy day'.

In any case, whether we agree that hording food is a bad thing (for whatever reason) or whether we feel justified in hording, etc., let's try to maintain a friendly, amicable atmosphere in which to exchange our ideas. None of our opinions are so important that we can batter people about the head with them :-)

[Davidallany]

sometimes words can be read as a harsh critic, but I remember your carrots and I defended your feeling about filling nostrils . i am very upset those ideas,( doesn't matter who the person is) ,they think they will be survived if they keep some food from the circulation . In Gazze thousand of people are suffering from hunger,
Mawlana, janim, there is no food shortage. have you not heard of LasVegas pool parties lately? Food and drinks are abundant

[Camilo]

Hello all!

This will be my first post and it looks like I am jumping in after a storm. Like all of you,l I am most pleased that Bill is back at the helm, I am sure he is stronger and deeper into wisdom because of what has happened and by having the courage to stand back, make a truthful assessment and do the necessary work to overcome whatever obstacles were placed in his path. Something that I am very familiar with is the hard won wisdom after a battle, so and perhaps it is my own projection or intuition but I believe he will have a lot to share. As I stumble along my path I encountered Project Avalon and I am most pleased to be part of a forum that is intelligent and caring. I echo Bill in saying that "There’s still a great deal of work to do."

So hello to all,
La Tigra

Bien venida Tigra!

[Lisab]

Hi Mevlana. Maybe I've given you the impression that I have a shed full of food here but believe me I don't even have a fridge full. I'm a single parent altho my little boys sees him every w/end does not provide financially. I work two days a week. Even tho I just got paid I'm already £1200 into my overdraught with 200 available credit to last until end of mnth. But we always survive as I know the universe always provides.

Now thanks to the law of attraction I am waiting on a computer which my friend has sorted out for me from her firm. Old ones which are given to charity and her friend is installing the software for me. The iPhone I'm posting on now was given to me a friend who gave all his stuff away and went abroad. It has no sim card in it, it's my link to Avalon and the Internet world at the moment.
So I've very recently started doing is buying a couple of extra tins etc when I go shopping. I've also got a torch and batteries but if we run out food now then we'll bloody well eat what's in the shed now! Lol.

I'm 44, still rent but always give and teach my kids the same( my eldest is 21 buy my young one is 5).
If you like astrology please check out my chart in the astrology thread. Believe me I'm not greedy
I'm a mother. Simple. Thanks love Lisa x

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Sorry words like father missing from post. Hard on this phone. Hope it makes sense x

[Christine]

Bien venida Tigra!

Hola Camilo,

Gracias por los saludos, veo que vives en Colombia. Yo vivo en Vilcabamba, Ecuador desde hace tres meses y estoy encantada de estar en Sur de America. Lei en tu mensaje a Andy que estabas pensando visitar Vilcabamba, sera un placer en conocerte. Soy la administradora de un pequeño hotel bien conocida y como dicen mi casa es su casa. Igualmente puedo decir un amigo de Bill es un amigo mio. Pues muchisimos saludos!

La Tigra

[Titan Orion]

Welcome back Bill!

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear Friends,

For complex logistical reasons (cost among them, but there are also a number of other factors) I've made the decision to cancel this seminar. A few things have changed, and I will not be in the US at the time.

It's never my style to cancel anything, so I sincerely apologize to those of you who (like myself) were very much looking forward to this. It would have been very good to have met many of you who'd been intending to come.

I'll still be speaking at Kerry's Camelot conference in LA on 23-25 September (http://awakeandaware2011.com), which promises to be quite something.

I'll also be recording and editing the long-awaited Part 2 of the Avalon Interview with myself - in which quite a few subjects will be covered! - but probably not till the end of October.

And I'd like to create some novel ways - webinars, teleconferences, and other virtual gatherings - in which the information and personal contact can propagate easily and electronically without everyone having to travel physically.

With my very best wishes to all - Bill

[bennycog]

reason for not attending not up for discussion bill :) i was not able to attend myself work and distance.. but i am sure others here would like to know what you might have in the pipeline.. unless it is personnel of course..
is there a way you can get the camelot conference to us after it has finished or is it only in the pay for section?

[ThePythonicCow]

For complex logistical reasons (cost among them, but there are also a number of other factors) I've made the decision to cancel this seminar. A few things have changed, and I will not be in the US at the time.

Would it make sense to note "(canceled - see Post #115)" in this thread's title?

[Mother]

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Dear Friends,

For complex logistical reasons (cost among them, but there are also a number of other factors) I've made the decision to cancel this seminar. A few things have changed, and I will not be in the US at the time.

It's never my style to cancel anything, so I sincerely apologize to those of you who (like myself) were very much looking forward to this. It would have been very good to have met many of you who'd been intending to come.

I'll still be speaking at Kerry's Camelot conference in LA on 23-25 September (http://awakeandaware2011.com), which promises to be quite something.

I'll also be recording and editing the long-awaited Part 2 of the Avalon Interview with myself - in which quite a few subjects will be covered! - but probably not till the end of October.

And I'd like to create some novel ways - webinars, teleconferences, and other virtual gatherings - in which the information and personal contact can propagate easily and electronically without everyone having to travel physically.

With my very best wishes to all - Bill

Hi there, my dear friend Bill,
three months ago, when I wrote to you explaining my difficulties on attending Vilcabamba´s seminar, you kindly wrote me back, sharing some tips, but also saying "There's always a way!" - remember that?:wink:

And that gave me strenght to go, and I went, and my life has changed.:kiss:
From what I learned there (about timelines), the Portland event may well happen!

I would like to ask if is there any plans to share the video from Montesuenos Seminar, and if will you - or maybe Amber - send a list of emails to the participants, so we can keep in touch.
Thanks!

[Bill Ryan]

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For complex logistical reasons (cost among them, but there are also a number of other factors) I've made the decision to cancel this seminar. A few things have changed, and I will not be in the US at the time.

Would it make sense to note "(canceled - see Post #115)" in this thread's title?

Yes! :)

[jcocks]

Sounds good, bill.... Would make it more accessible to people like me who can't make it unless you hold something local (not likely)...

Let us knw when you organise something

[Taurean]

Not like you to be this economical with your reasons Bill, considering certain predictions for the next few weeks.

[Tangri]

Re: Bill Ryan in Portland, Oregon : 15-16 October 2011
And also Im not worried about Elenin either but I do think that maybe the grids will go down from time to time with all the crazy spaceweather at the moment, solar flares etc. So I do keep food and reserves in my shed just in case. Just enough for temporary blackouts.
It may not happen but it just seems common sense to me to have back up. I hope this post makes sense I'm rushing around this morning loads to do! Lisa x


yeah Lisa.
Maybe you and your kind are responsible for world's short food supply . people are dying with hunger at some part of the world, and you are stocking food for nothing. good paranoia for your neighborhood, open your eyes and wake up.
love at least one, maybe you will be one

I know that language can be difficult, but Mevlana, your post comes across as very harsh.
Neither you or me know Lisa and making assumptions, then posting harsh criticism isn't a good way to go.
My opinion.

yes rob,
sometimes words can be read as a harsh critic, but I remember your carrots and I defended your feeling about filling nostrils . i am very upset those ideas,( doesn't matter who the person is) ,they think they will be survived if they keep some food from the circulation . In Gazze thousand of people are suffering from hunger,
If you don't love one, how can you be one?
Hi (Merhaba) Mevlena,

I hope you are still with us, Elites can not stimulate population number enough to accelerate their profit rates then they promotes the fear to sell more.

Love and Peace

[mevlana]

Hi Mevlana. Maybe I've given you the impression that I have a shed full of food here but believe me I don't even have a fridge full. I'm a single parent altho my little boys sees him every w/end does not provide financially. I work two days a week. Even tho I just got paid I'm already £1200 into my overdraught with 200 available credit to last until end of mnth. But we always survive as I know the universe always provides.

Now thanks to the law of attraction I am waiting on a computer which my friend has sorted out for me from her firm. Old ones which are given to charity and her friend is installing the software for me. The iPhone I'm posting on now was given to me a friend who gave all his stuff away and went abroad. It has no sim card in it, it's my link to Avalon and the Internet world at the moment.
So I've very recently started doing is buying a couple of extra tins etc when I go shopping. I've also got a torch and batteries but if we run out food now then we'll bloody well eat what's in the shed now! Lol.

I'm 44, still rent but always give and teach my kids the same( my eldest is 21 buy my young one is 5).
If you like astrology please check out my chart in the astrology thread. Believe me I'm not greedy
I'm a mother. Simple. Thanks love Lisa x

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Hi lisab,

My comment was not against you. It was the elite's propaganda which would cause having extra customers for certain market I was opposed. As I know Americans and people who were converted to americans attain to survive depend on others suffering. Their legitimate reasoning is their family's need . At first gland it seems reasonable but in reality is not. they are creating their reality fundamentally wrong at the result. I was a hostage at sledgehammer operation for certain time. I am using internet with a available moment via wi- fi, which I hope they can not trace me.
Love one become one

[mevlana]

Hi (Merhaba) Mevlena,

I hope you are still with us, Elites can not stimulate population number enough to accelerate their profit rates then they promotes the fear to sell more.

Love and Peace

Hi Tangri,

I believe you are the fellow one and have some sort of knowledge about sledgehammer operation in Turkey I was little occupied with it with no choice. I was trying to explain cooperate tactics even it seems legitimate or logical. if you have concern about your safety you can PM to me.
Love one to become the one.

[Lisab]

Hi Mevlana. Maybe I've given you the impression that I have a shed full of food here but believe me I don't even have a fridge full. I'm a single parent altho my little boys sees him every w/end does not provide financially. I work two days a week. Even tho I just got paid I'm already £1200 into my overdraught with 200 available credit to last until end of mnth. But we always survive as I know the universe always provides.

Now thanks to the law of attraction I am waiting on a computer which my friend has sorted out for me from her firm. Old ones which are given to charity and her friend is installing the software for me. The iPhone I'm posting on now was given to me a friend who gave all his stuff away and went abroad. It has no sim card in it, it's my link to Avalon and the Internet world at the moment.
So I've very recently started doing is buying a couple of extra tins etc when I go shopping. I've also got a torch and batteries but if we run out food now then we'll bloody well eat what's in the shed now! Lol.

I'm 44, still rent but always give and teach my kids the same( my eldest is 21 buy my young one is 5).
If you like astrology please check out my chart in the astrology thread. Believe me I'm not greedy
I'm a mother. Simple. Thanks love Lisa x

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Sorry words like father missing from post. Hard on this phone. Hope it makes sense x

Hi lisab,

My comment was not against you. It was the elite's propaganda which would cause having extra customers for certain market I was opposed. As I know Americans and people who were converted to americans attain to survive depend on others suffering. Their legitimate reasoning is their family's need . At first gland it seems reasonable but in reality is not. they are creating their reality fundamentally wrong at the result. I was a hostage at sledgehammer operation for certain time. I am using internet with a available moment via wi- fi, which I hope they can not trace me.
Love one become one

Mevlana, it is I that should apologise to you and to anyone else who may have read my post. How embarrassing to put my financial situation out there like that! I sound desperate and needy! Things have changed a lot in my world since then. I've changed.

Thank you for your lovely pm. Please stay safe...Lisa