Lady Gaga and Beyonce on China song blacklist

[Gaia]

Songs by Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Katy Perry are among those newly banned by China's culture ministry. Chinese Internet sites must remove them by 15 September in the interests of "National cultural security'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14644374

Gaia

[WhiteFeather]

I removed them from my list eons ago, and they werent even on my list. I truly respect China for this decision. A country with B...lls.

[seehas]

they protect their people from illuminati messages, wow ;-D

[Tane Mahuta]

Who are they anyway?.... Are they singers?

TM

[seehas]

Who are they anyway?.... Are they singers?

TM

mostly hot girls contracted by the illuminati music industry spreading subliminar messages all over the planet

singers yeah aretha franklin was a singer ... the good old days ;)

[Lord Sidious]

Who are they anyway?.... Are they singers?

TM

Erm, no.
They are nuggets who ''perform'' music.
I wouldn't insult true singers, speaking of which, here is one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXRLLXqG-2o


Uncle Sidious did it again, he got Ofra onto the forum. :cool:

[GCS1103]

Who are they anyway?.... Are they singers?

TM

Erm, no.
They are nuggets who ''perform'' music.
I wouldn't insult true singers, speaking of which, here is one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXRLLXqG-2o


Uncle Sidious did it again, he got Ofra onto the forum. :cool:

Excellent video.

[firstlook]

Ive met beyonce knowles, really nice lady.

[Gaia]

Who are they anyway?.... Are they singers?

TM

Erm, no.
They are nuggets who ''perform'' music.
I wouldn't insult true singers, speaking of which, here is one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXRLLXqG-2o


Uncle Sidious did it again, he got Ofra onto the forum. :cool:

Her voice...Really outstanding, she sings with pure sentiment:)

[Gaia]

It puzzles me when Western social conservatives assume that communist nations are immoral. Historical (And current) Evidence demonstrates that most communist governements tend to be opposed to the same things they are. To whit, if you ignore that little disagreement over religious freedom, both groups have a lot in common in terms of "Likes" and "Dislikes."

[phillipbbg]

What a great marketing plan from there management getting the Chinese Gov to ban them but not until the 15th of September... Brilliant move, I bet the sales will rocket far higher than they would have ever done if they had just used conventional methods...

10 Points :whoo:

[HORIZONS]

I removed them from my list eons ago, and they werent even on my list. I truly respect China for this decision. A country with B...lls.

Took the words right out of my mind ;)

[Flash]

What a great marketing plan from there management getting the Chinese Gov to ban them but not until the 15th of September... Brilliant move, I bet the sales will rocket far higher than they would have ever done if they had just used conventional methods...

10 Points :whoo:

In China, sales will not rocket but copies yes - lol. (not worth to buy anyhow).

Even my own teenager does agree with the Chinese, this says a lot by itself - Bieber is next on her list.

[math330]

I'd ban Lady Gaga from England given the choice ;)

[Tane Mahuta]

What a great marketing plan from there management getting the Chinese Gov to ban them but not until the 15th of September... Brilliant move, I bet the sales will rocket far higher than they would have ever done if they had just used conventional methods...

10 Points :whoo:

In China, sales will not rocket but copies yes - lol. (not worth to buy anyhow).

Even my own teenager does agree with the Chinese, this says a lot by itself - Bieber is next on her list.

Does he sing too?

TM

[Flash]

Even my own teenager does agree with the Chinese, this says a lot by itself - Bieber is next on her list.


Does he sing too?

TM

no, no signing, he does not sing, but right now he is acting dead lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TxgjlUIY60

[Tane Mahuta]

Ahhh, he's a wannabe actor, ok now I know...

TM

[loveandgratitude]

Maybe China has taste.

[spelsylver]

Saying Beyonce and lady gaga have no real singing talent is a bit absurd though. Both of these women are legit vocalist and musician. Lady gaga is a brilliant pianist and beyonces voice is almost flawless live.

Subliminal messages or not it is our job as parents to filter what our kids are influenced by not the government.

I'm a fan of both these artist, granted i never have purchased an album from them but i will jam out to a good one on the radio. i've been "awake" since i was 18 (about 10 years now) and have learned that illuminati symbolism is everywhere i turn. Accusing these women of being illuminati minions? So what? Who isn't that's in the main stream these days.

If China had a problem with their "subliminal messages" then they would have banned beyonce YEARS ago! She has been around a long while and has been married to Jay Z for 5 years, who is supposedly a big illuminati minion... why wasn't she a threat this whole time? Why mid September? Hmmm sales! sales! sales! i can see all those teeny bopper girls in China freaking out right about now trying to figure out how they are going to get their hands on a copy of these albums before it's too late.


"who run the world? GIRLS!" - Beyonce Knowles

[mahalall]

Did they ban John Lennon as well ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV-tk8CrqCQ

arghhhh

[Flash]

Saying Beyonce and lady gaga have no real singing talent is a bit absurd though. Both of these women are legit vocalist and musician. Lady gaga is a brilliant pianist and beyonces voice is almost flawless live.

Subliminal messages or not it is our job as parents to filter what our kids are influenced by not the government.

I'm a fan of both these artist, granted i never have purchased an album from them but i will jam out to a good one on the radio. i've been "awake" since i was 18 (about 10 years now) and have learned that illuminati symbolism is everywhere i turn. Accusing these women of being illuminati minions? So what? Who isn't that's in the main stream these days.

If China had a problem with their "subliminal messages" then they would have banned beyonce YEARS ago! She has been around a long while and has been married to Jay Z for 5 years, who is supposedly a big illuminati minion... why wasn't she a threat this whole time? Why mid September? Hmmm sales! sales! sales! i can see all those teeny bopper girls in China freaking out right about now trying to figure out how they are going to get their hands on a copy of these albums before it's too late.


"who run the world? GIRLS!" - Beyonce Knowles

I am breathless, speechless. Beyonce and Lady gaga thrill is money and sex and it was before they became famous.. They were taken by the industry and promoted precisely because they were so low in overall .... overalll. Good voice or not, this is a killer for our children. You surely do not have a teenager daughter yet going in the street half naked and deciding to undress in partys thinking it is perfectly natural to do so while boys in plural stick it in their mouth and other girls french kiss them, all being ok, because Lady Gaga does it and Madona kisses Britney Spear and they have seen it over and over and over and over again. (I am happy my own daughter is fed up with these porn stars because she likes music for music itself, but her friends are not).

Sexual exploitation is rampant in the industries, in high schools and everywhere and girls are the definit looser all over. And now young boys have been included in it too. Why is porn sexual exploitation of girls/young boys rampant? Because in great part of the music industry and the second cause in the film industry. All controlled by the same people that controls the banks.

Sorry for being descriptive and blunt, but at a certain point, parents are powerless with such thourough coverage and bombardment of porno sex advertising, music and films, everywhere you turn. You are wrong thinking parents can have the major impact on their teenager, psychologically and in reality as well. Teenagers by definition search outside the home for their own value system. This is healthy in itself, it should be like this, when the healthy psychological grounds are not hijacked by the PTB own psychopatic gains.

Don't you see that our children are considered as the meat and flesh supplying the gains of about 13 famlies worldwide.

[spelsylver]

Saying Beyonce and lady gaga have no real singing talent is a bit absurd though. Both of these women are legit vocalist and musician. Lady gaga is a brilliant pianist and beyonces voice is almost flawless live.

Subliminal messages or not it is our job as parents to filter what our kids are influenced by not the government.

I'm a fan of both these artist, granted i never have purchased an album from them but i will jam out to a good one on the radio. i've been "awake" since i was 18 (about 10 years now) and have learned that illuminati symbolism is everywhere i turn. Accusing these women of being illuminati minions? So what? Who isn't that's in the main stream these days.

If China had a problem with their "subliminal messages" then they would have banned beyonce YEARS ago! She has been around a long while and has been married to Jay Z for 5 years, who is supposedly a big illuminati minion... why wasn't she a threat this whole time? Why mid September? Hmmm sales! sales! sales! i can see all those teeny bopper girls in China freaking out right about now trying to figure out how they are going to get their hands on a copy of these albums before it's too late.


"who run the world? GIRLS!" - Beyonce Knowles

I am breathless, speechless. Beyonce and Lady gaga thrill is money and sex and it was before they became famous.. They were taken by the industry and promoted precisely because they were so low in overall .... overalll. Good voice or not, this is a killer for our children. You surely do not have a teenager daughter yet going in the street half naked and deciding to undress in partys thinking it is perfectly natural to do so while boys in plural stick it in their mouth and other girls french kiss them, all being ok, because Lady Gaga does it and Madona kisses Britney Spear and they have seen it over and over and over and over again. (I am happy my own daughter is fed up with these porn stars because she likes music for music itself, but her friends are not).

Sexual exploitation is rampant in the industries, in high schools and everywhere and girls are the definit looser all over. And now young boys have been included in it too. Why is porn sexual exploitation of girls/young boys rampant? Because in great part of the music industry and the second cause in the film industry. All controlled by the same people that controls the banks.

Sorry for being descriptive and blunt, but at a certain point, parents are powerless with such thourough coverage and bombardment of porno sex advertising, music and films, everywhere you turn. You are wrong thinking parents can have the major impact on their teenager, psychologically and in reality as well. Teenagers by definition search outside the home for their own value system. This is healthy in itself, it should be like this, when the healthy psychological grounds are not hijacked by the PTB own psychopatic gains.

Don't you see that our children are considered as the meat and flesh supplying the gains of about 13 famlies worldwide.

Guess you're not so speechless since you responded right? lol you are right, I do not have a teenager but I was once a teenager, and a musician. You say it doesn't matter that they have great voices. Why not? ALL mainstream artists are in this game, you do realize that right? The ones doing the most harm are not the ones singing the songs either! (if you ask me the "news" is what they should be banning, i don't appreciate blatant lies disquised as truths) All im saying is that banning these 2 artists in particular will do nothing for China. People in China respect themselves, A LOT. Americans...not so much.

The way I see it, the fact that your daughter in particular chooses not to support these women is a direct reflection of your parenting. She didn't come up with these ideals on her own and you and I both know the media and her friends played no role in that either. That kind of mind set is home base learned. So kudos for you for instilling self respect. I myself spent my childhood living between group homes and the streets. My parents were not ready to be parents, ever. I somehow was able to overcome my hardship and not be bogged down by the main stream media, think for myself kinda gal. I pick and choose what I want to indulge in and have complete control on what I allow to influence my decisions in life as an adult. One of my favorite rappers to this day is 2pac. (im a woman and a lesbian, 2 pac insults both aspects many times over) Have I let his music influence the path I follow in life? absolutely not. People may critisize him for his blantant disrespect for women, but this man was all about exposing the illuminati, especially after he got out of prison. But yet, you look at his #1 hits and they are all the "mainstream" songs....the ones that ask women "how do you want it and how do you feel"

Has anyone here ever watched that show called My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding? they delve into the lives of Irish Gypsy Travelers...very interesting people...the girls get married at 14 and dress and dance like floozies but yet remain virgins until they are married. Very traditional in a catholic sense. One clip showed 3 little girls couldn't have been older than 7 years old shaking their butts in front of the camera...when asked where they learned how to dance like that they replied "the teli" and when asked who their favorite singers were they replied "shakira" and "Beyonce". These Gypsies (they prefer to be called travelers) are totally secluded from the major population and live in trailer parks on the outskirts of Ireland, yet at 7 these little girls know how to get down and dirty for a wedding.

I guess my point is music will always be music. That feeling I get when beyonces reaches some of those high notes does not leave me with the resonating feeling of Jenna Jamison or any porn star for that matter. Beyonce doesn't even use vulgar language in her songs because she realizes who her market is - young girls. Lady gaga has been a huge advocate for queers all around the effin world. She's made it ok for the "strange" kids to express themselves without feeling alone in the world. As a teenager, I felt alienated and music was seriously my only savor.

My freshmen year of high school went something like this:
Zero period (before school 6:30am) - Wind ensemble
1st period - Concert band
3 period - Marching band
7th (after school) period - Jazz band.

Music consumed my world and school was my refuge as i didn't have a family to seek guidence from. I still pick apart lyrics to songs, trying to interpret the meaning of them. Point is, it’s my interpretation every time.

if you see your children as meat and flesh for the 13 families then that's what they will be. I for one am not going to wait until our government start banning stuff in order to protect the nation’s young ears. Again, where does personal responsibility come into play? I for one will never be a product of any system I am in, play the game yes but know that it is a game. Neither will my own children. They will have the ability to think for themselves and if I’m lucky enough be as wise as your daughter has shown to be and choose to represent themselves as the respectable people I know they will grow up to become

[bonnyhut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQRf4g079UY&feature=aso

Speaking of singers... Im not an x factor fan but I think this one may bite the Illuminati on the arse. It has gone viral and portrays Iraqi victims of war as human beings.
Something many pre-occupied westerners don't contemplate too often. Especially when we are bombing the **** out of them for no actual reason.

[spelsylver]

^^^ made me cry. thank you bonnyhut

[gooty64]

Lady Gaga doesn't even seem to be human. Beyonce just a corporation. Katy Perry is currently #1 song.
These "artists" are making the youngsters into "addicts"!

[Ruby L.]

Beyonce and Lady Gaga's banned songs are part of a list of hundred, mostly comprised of artists from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.

(If you're interested in the list (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/082811banned) of the Banned and the Beautiful.)

Anyway, it's well known that the Chinese government are super paranoid and controlling.
Censored media there includes television, print media, radio, film, theatre, text messaging, instant messaging, video games, literature and the Internet.

Their interventions are very often done under the guise of 'for the social and moral good of the collective'. If an individual disagrees with that point, then perhaps there's something wrong with the individual, isn't there? After all, who in their right mind would contest having a good and moral society?
Naughty, naughty, Beyonce-bopping dissidents. :nono:

The Chinese government aren't too keen on people coming together in numbers, whether it's in a physical group, or via the cyber world; it gives people ideas.

And numbers, armed with knowledge and ideas, have power.
That, coupled with being exposed to Lady Gaga's highly potent lyrics (lol):


[The Chinese Ministry of Culture] did not explain why the songs were banned but China routinely censors anything it considers politically sensitive or offensive.

Lady Gaga's 'Bloody Mary' ends with the line "Oh, libertad, mi amor (Oh, freedom, my love)", while 'Hair' includes the lyrics "This is my prayer/ That I'll die living just as free as my hair"
Source (http://www.gympietimes.com.au/story/2011/08/28/china-bans-songs-in-culture-crackdown/)

FYI, in 2008, China banned three tracks from Kylie Minogue's album X:
Nu-di-ty, Like a Drug and Speakerphone.

That pretty much covers Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll, doesn't it? :lol:

[PHARAOH]

Can we add America to the list?

[777]

"All the girls and all the boys are willing to IF YOU SEEK AMY"

Actual Britney lyrics sold to our kids. Now say the sentence fast. Got it yet?

Makes no sense does it lyrically?

How about the phoenetics then.......

Ef You See K Me.

[Star1111]

Erm, no.
They are nuggets who ''perform'' music.
I wouldn't insult true singers, speaking of which, here is one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXRLLXqG-2o

Lady Ga Ga I just don't get!
But Beyonce is a fantastic mover! Have you seen the video of Single Ladies (Put a Ring on it) !
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY - Cached

[Lord Sidious]

Star, I wouldn't insult my eyes and ears with beyonce if I have the choice.
No offense to you, but it is audio fairy floss, no content of value, much of harm.

[shadowstalker]

If teen girls are running around half dressed and doing what most parents consider immoral, then maybe the parents should step up and be parents, it doesn't take much to not let your child by unfit clothes for their age, it the parents money right? if these teens use there allowance to buy these unfit clothes then it's time to take that away till they learn to be responsible with it, if need be put the child's allowance in a savings account till they are 21 if need be. Technically speaking they still get there allowance, they just can't have it till they are respectful about it.

Morality should come from parents and not anyone else, if the parents don't take the time to be parents it's there own fault. it doesn't take much to unplug a tv or the net at home.
How many times have i heard from kids "TV/Youtube is my best friend,

Also and I know a lot of folks here are not going to like this but morality in in the eye of the beholder such as beauty is.

You will not find any two people (unless they are like minded) agreeing on the same issue.

Who might i ask can truly draw a fine line and truly explain what true morality truly is.

And as for two girls kissing? REALLY? what is so bad about that anyway? What is so immoral about it?

[Flash]

If teen girls are running around half dressed and doing what most parents consider immoral, then maybe the parents should step up and be parents, it doesn't take much to not let your child by unfit clothes for their age, it the parents money right? if these teens use there allowance to buy these unfit clothes then it's time to take that away till they learn to be responsible with it, if need be put the child's allowance in a savings account till they are 21 if need be. Technically speaking they still get there allowance, they just can't have it till they are respectful about it.

Morality should come from parents and not anyone else, if the parents don't take the time to be parents it's there own fault. it doesn't take much to unplug a tv or the net at home.
How many times have i heard from kids "TV/Youtube is my best friend,

Also and I know a lot of folks here are not going to like this but morality in in the eye of the beholder such as beauty is.

You will not find any two people (unless they are like minded) agreeing on the same issue.

Who might i ask can truly draw a fine line and truly explain what true morality truly is.

And as for two girls kissing? REALLY? what is so bad about that anyway? What is so immoral about it?

i basically agree with you. However, i have seen very good parents be good parents and doing what you mention, and kids lying to them. they would of course not let their parents know or be aware of what they are doing and parents cannot at 15 or 16 follow them everywhere. Believe me, those artists (Beyonce and all) do have a bad impact on them, and even if unplugging the kids at home, they plug back at their friends homes.

I cannot blame the parents for everything either, when a society has no more morality at all, parents works is more than endless, it is constantly undone.

Mine, from what I know, is doing fine - hopefully I know that she is doing fine... However, I remember when she was 5, seeing her rolling her shorts up very very high and me stopping her, asking her what she was doing. She answered that she was doing the same as the little girl she had seen on dr Phil show (imagine what Britney Spear actions spark if even mild Dr Phil show has an impact). I asked her if the parents of the little girl agreed, she said no. I asked if Dr Phil agreed. She said no. And then she added: but who won, the little girl or the parents? I was flabergaster, answering "the parents of course" and told her the little girl had been talked to by Dr Phil and told her to put her shorts back as they were. Lessons learned are that insidious, anyone with teenager can tell you.

The bad thing about 2 girls kissing: the age at which our young girls try it, before even knowing what or whom they are attracted to. Sexual inprints is the heaviest most addictive inprint there is, any behavior specialist as well as hormone specialist would tell you. Awakening children too early for sex is dramatic in their sexual orientation as well as their behaviors for life. IT is typical Monarch programming, done at large, to all our children.

[shadowstalker]

I agree to a degree as well, But I am talking about the parents who have the time to instill what they feel is right but literally don't and blame others for bad influence, those are the ones who complain the most, and scapegoat the most, it is always someone else fault,but not there own.

I feel bad for the single parent and the both parent working family, but still things need to be instilled at an early age, that where it all starts, most of a child's learning happens before the age of five and is rarely forgotten by the child, if one doesn't have quantity then make quality time. people have tendencies to forget that.

No i can not blame the parents for everything either just the parts that count,

And yes teen and preteens can be influenced by others other then the parents

If you have a child that is totally rebellious its not gonna make a difference what a person does, but in the end TV/Radio/INTERNET. really have nothing to do with it,

Radio is about 120 yrs old ?
TV about 60 yrs ?
Internet 20 ?
Sorry if i get the ages wrong

Parents have been complaining about media and music for ages , hell even Mozart was considered devils music for a time.

So now we have a new scapegoat. In the end a child will make his/her own free will choice just like the parents.

I don't don't know, maybe I never use the excuse of I am to tired to deal with you kid attitude, I was never afraid to put my foot down, no matter the out come.

I just see this has another generational issue that simply does not want to be dealt with on a truly personal responsible level, if you have an issue with attitude with the kid either punish them or send them to some kind of therapist.

This is the same kind of compliant that was stated about comic books 60 yrs ago
same was said about rock and role 50 yrs ago and on down the yrs.
I personally don't see any difference.

It's just more known due to media and net usage. It's all relative.

[shadowstalker]

The bad thing about 2 girls kissing: the age at which our young girls try it, before even knowing what or whom they are attracted to. Sexual inprints is the heaviest most addictive inprint there is, any behavior specialist as well as hormone specialist would tell you. Awakening children too early for sex is dramatic in their sexual orientation as well as their behaviors for life. IT is typical Monarch programming, done at large, to all our children.

And kissing our spouse or significant other of the opposite gender to our selves does not do this to our children? we imprint that idea everday into our children when we are married. the moment we kiss our loved one that is not the same gender as our self, imprints plenty don't you think?, the moment we show affection in that manner in front of our children and proclaim it to be natural already imprints them.

Truth be told i think they should not be afraid to see both, so they can make a free will choice later in life.

[Flash]

The bad thing about 2 girls kissing: the age at which our young girls try it, before even knowing what or whom they are attracted to. Sexual inprints is the heaviest most addictive inprint there is, any behavior specialist as well as hormone specialist would tell you. Awakening children too early for sex is dramatic in their sexual orientation as well as their behaviors for life. IT is typical Monarch programming, done at large, to all our children.

And kissing our spouse or significant other of the opposite gender to our selves does not do this to our children? we imprint that idea everday into our children when we are married. the moment we kiss our loved one that is not the same gender as our self, imprints plenty don't you think?, the moment we show affection in that manner in front of our children and proclaim it to be natural already imprints them.

Truth be told i think they should not be afraid to see both, so they can make a free will choice later in life.

Don't push it Shadowstalker, most parents kissing are done with love or at least affection. Well, unless they are near divorce... lol. And you know that. :p The message sent is entirely different. It is not pure lust and sex without any love or affection as it is in the music industry.

[shadowstalker]

intent is still intent, be it in the home or on tv that will never change, and to be quite frank the kids don't know jack till you tell them, or make a big stink about it.
It just seems to me that your giving TBTB more credit then they deserve.

Homosexuality is not a PTB issue, per-say it's a personal issue, it was propagated by the powers that be through, religion, so in turn fear ensues, keep those kids from those gay folks they might sully them, or do bad things to them. And I saw that kiss that folks are talking about i was not impressed. TBTB found an out with that but at the same time by showing that kiss on tv, it just proved to me that it shouldn't matter what is hid in the pants ever.
And for all we know (Because we truly don't) they could have been lovers at one point or another, we have no idea what went through there heads, And for all we know they probably really did enjoy it. hence love. so long as they respected each other in there hearts and thats what truly counts does it not, it is love maybe not by most standards but respect also equeals a form of love.

[mosquito]

WOW !!!!
Congratulations Avalonians, I'm proud of you ! I opened this thread expecting it to be full off paranoid/inaccurate complaints about China, instead of which - most of you seem to agree with the government's actions. Well done !
Obviously censorship is a topic which could send us round and round in circles all day, but I doubt there is or ever was a government on Earth whose censorship policy could be called rational.
Lady Gaga is very popular with Chinese teenagers, as are Avril Lavine and Justine Bieber. Beyonce less so.

Given that the Chinese government now claims to be interested in protecting Chinese culture, here are some more things that should be banned outright (and if there's anyone from the government monitoring this, PLEASE TAKE NOTE !)

MacDonalds, KFC, and Christian missionaries, who are doing untold damage around the country, especially among minority groups

[Gaia]

The stories that get traction in the western press are those about banning western sources, particularly famous cultural exports. Arrests of local protest artists or writers have much less traction, even though they are much more serious in terms of their consequences, because they don't resonate for us. I wonder if our limited taste for foreign information and culture has a more profound exclusionary effect than does foreign governement censorship.

Last May China banned a Mongolian protest song and arrested the student who made it, while Tibetan singer Tashi Dhondup was sentanced to one year and seven months’ imprisonment for producing a music album with “Subversive songs”

http://www.freemuse.org/sw43228.asp

http://www.freemuse.org/sw37564.asp

"Torture without Trace"
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[Star1111]

Star, I wouldn't insult my eyes and ears with beyonce if I have the choice.
No offense to you, but it is audio fairy floss, no content of value, much of harm.

Dear Lord, Absolutely agree that its audio fairy floss and the content is vacuous to say the least......................... but Beyonce is a good mover (credit where credit's due) and as an ex-dancer I do see the value in how she "struts her stuff"................ I think is the expression :cool: