Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University

[kathymarie]

I think this may have been posted back in February or March before I was a member...but I received this via James Gilliland this morning.....

My apologies is there is no new information...
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[Carmody]

They are failing to consider the electric universe model, and the increase in charge or ionic density. This changes the relationships of mass influence and charge mass (origin point of the charge field) influence.

We are entering a large particle field of high ionic charge density. Thus the mass influences, which are primarily electrostatic, in charge ratio and relation.

Effectively, the charge levels are changing and the static state or level of their prior relationships, is changing, in a non linear manner.

There may be an external mass, or that the field we are entering is coming from one spot-direction.... and entering on one side, and it is not uniform. Besides the change in function and effect.

see this thread and the link that explores the subject. Go to the link in the first post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28804-Interesting-interview-on-Space-Weather-affecting-DNA


See the Stan Deyo book and thread on anti-gravity propulsion systems...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28517-Stan-Deyo-The-Technology-of-the-New-World-Order

"The Cosmic Conspiracy", page 17:

"Professor Trump illustrates how the power-generating capacity of electro-static machines
may be stepped up by asking you to consider two metallic plates, 100 square inches in area,
facing each other and separated by an insulator. If a voltage amounting to an electric field of
300 volts per centimeter is applied between them, the plates will be attracted to each other
with a force of one 2000th of a pound. Increase the field to 30,000 volts per centimeter and the
attraction becomes half a pound, "(this meant that 1000 times the force was generated with
only 100 times the voltage!)... "Now immerse the plates in a high vacuum - a good insulator,
though one difficult to maintain - and increase the field to three million volts per centimeter.
The force of attraction jumps to 5,700 pounds!... "(this meant that 11,400 times the previous
force was generated with -again - only 100 times the voltage!!...).

In the video in the opening post, they speak of, when reading the text/link (which is now below).....they seem to be indicating that the mass would be 'unimaginably huge'. Well, the heliosphere is being affected. This heliosphere is the electrostatic bubble of the sun's 'solar system'. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere) In this case, the change in charge and particle density would be the entire side of the heliosphere.

So there's your 'unimaginably huge' mass.


http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0212

A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit amounting to de/dt_meas = (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. We examine several dynamical effects, not modeled in the data analysis, in the framework of long-range modified models of gravity and of the standard Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm. It turns out that none of them can accommodate de/dt_meas. Many of them do not even induce long-term changes in e; other models do, instead, yield such an effect, but the resulting magnitudes are in disagreement with de/dt_meas. In particular, the general relativistic gravitomagnetic acceleration of the Moon due to the Earth's angular momentum has the right order of magnitude, but the resulting Lense-Thirring secular effect for the eccentricity vanishes. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain the right order of magnitude for de/dt are completely unrealistic. Moreover, they are in neat disagreement with both the most recent theoretical scenarios envisaging the existence of a distant, planetary-sized body and with the model-independent constraints on them dynamically inferred from planetary motions. Thus, the issue of finding a satisfactorily explanation for the anomalous behavior of the Moon's eccentricity remains open.

[Carmody]

Bump, as it appears to be very important.

[THIRDEYE]

i too have noticed irregularities on the moon.....it looks on a full moon an amonthly basis that it is egg shaped,,and the color seems to be a yellowish gray intrsting.....i wish i new the causes of this anomally which perplexs me....could it be the up coming planetatary alignment in 2012?????the planetary alignment puts us in the house of aquarious!!!!!in 2012....well i recarnated in this life time for exciting things to happen...i was just pondering the baby boomers of our time have seen more things in our life time in 5000 years...im excited the times coming imo are going to be spectackular....i fear nothing just surruond myself with love and light and pass this gift too all i encounter, weather it be a smile,kind thought or a kind word....love light and abundance....thirdeye.....

[Carmody]

If charge density changes than relational aspects of astrology may also become considerably more potent. These recent alignments causing earthquakes showing this. Scalar vibrational modes of energy --are rising. Like an over pressurized bubble.

Astrology shows one's path, in time, but also their overall energy available to them as they flow through this system of time and dimension, based on scalar waveforms.

If you know the idea of a oscillating voltage being expressed as a sine wave, imagine amplitude and current both increasing. Now since the level is very high, then it can be utilized, in this high energy state. The delta can be 'directed' at differing points of integration with others. The delta of the primary waves has changed in energy relation to other waves with other deltas. In a over pressured confined resonant COMPLEX oscillating system, which a dimensional zone can and will be...an escape point can also form, to come into shape it can express as ....harmonics, from which higher frequencies can arise.

From outside observation regarding relation to each other, this might be difficult to detect. ie a foot grows longer, but so does the ruler you measure it with. The amplitude and charge level of an atomic particle changes, but so does the measurement system on and in it's fundamentals.

It would be a subtle thing and would require some discernment as to the idea of making a measurement system that is immune, and capable of measuring what you are after. For if your frame of reference shifts along with the item or device under test, then it is difficult to find reference or a point from which to stand and observe, that is not affected similarly, regarding measurements at the atomic or human scale.

However, the atomic explosion may illustrate this, for it is a bubble of differential that can be externally observed, a bubble of fundamental frameworks undergoing a shift, as seen. as reflected in the external world. The placement of the experiment is the key.

You have to understand that what they found, with popping off atomic bombs..was that the yield would vary widely according to the ley line position of the explosion or the astrology of the explosion, at the given time and place.

This is not a joke, this is not a joke, this is not a joke. Since atomic explosions are about unraveling the scalar waveforms that matter and reality in this dimensional flow is made from, then the yield would vary widely.

Then you get to Dan Burish saying about gates and similar devices being forbidden to use during this time period. Like lighting a match in a room of pure oxygen.

Now we come to the idea of the plasma state of space, as we like to call it. Plasmas are quantum and also bordering on gross aggregate lattice in some minor ways, regarding ions and what they are assocaited with. Minute particles with high ionic charge. Thus a bridge for both. These fields these particle with immense ionic charge.. are expressed as being around the planets.Planets, the (frozen mass lattice structures) mass components of the universe. A differential from the ionic plasma spaces between.

now, with a massive increase in charge or ionic potential..as Stan Deyo notes, from experimentation, as the relationship goes non linear. Thus, this field entering the side of the heliosphere causes a perturbation in the mass of the planets, moons and their orbital relations that would be calculated in mundane astronomical analysis as having to be an impossibly huge mass coming into the solar system's vicinity.

The power of the gods, for each of us..returns? According to our skill and given capacity? All that remains the realization thereof? Hard to say. But...energy available will be increasing, if this is true.

[onawah]

With all the controversy over Elenin, the Mayan Calendar, a possible brown dwarf star in our solar system, Nibiru, etc. it's interesting to see some real data and not just speculation, though I'm not sure that anyone really knows what is happening.
I think it was in a talk by Richard Hoagland which pointed out there are many mysteries concerning our moon, including where it comes from, the way it orbits the earth, the distance from the earth, it's size (just big enough to block the sun during an eclipse) and so on. The furthest-out explanation is that it was deliberately put here by ETs or higher dimensional beings, which might explain some things, but certainly would never be considered by scientists.
In any case, I'm bumping this thread.:dance:

[Hummingbird]

Seen a video that Kerry posted on her blog of Alex Collier speaking about 10 years or more ago, in it he mentions that the Draco have been allowed to come back to Earth to retrieve a left behind important piece of mining material. He said the time was right now around oct 2011 I believe.

If the Moon is artificial then I doubt it is there for our own good, more probly here to keep the sovereignty of humans at bay..

If so maybe the object headed our way known as Elenin( which was just captured with some kind of tetrahedral shape around it whenn the solar winds hit it )
http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html Scroll down to first post in link

Maybe this object is a controlled craft that is coming to pull the moon back where it came from...

[kathymarie]

My thoughts exactly...if I had nothing more to go on than just how the moon looks in the night sky I'd say something was amiss. A couple of months ago I swear it didn't even look like the moon...craters were all wrong...it appeared to me to be a mirror image of what it should look like...and yes I know how crazy that sounds.

[ghostrider]

the moon is totally messed up, had a cresent moon and the crazy thing was tipped so the 3 to 7 oclock postion was luminous the rest dark , should be 1 to 5 oclock area luminous and the rest dark. it was tipped 90 degrees out of where it should be.

[Carmody]

As for visual analysis, if it is even a visible aspect, it may show up in the fine crescent, in the waxing and waning phases. In that particular stage, we might be able to see something. If it is capable of being seen, at all.

The moon is at it's darkest right now, today, IIRC, so look at it now, as the crescent forms.

[dark skies]

I have been working nightshift for the last 18 months and work outdoors for 8 hours of my 12 hour shift, however I ve noticed, that the moon over the last 8 months or so looks a lot different to how it used to look.
To my eyes the shape of the full moon does seem to have changed ,it seems more flatter and always seems a lot brighter than it used to, when i was younger.

[Carmody]

It might seem whiter, for it is reputed that the sun is moving toward a whiter output spectrum.

[White Rabbit]

one thing i noticed a few weeks ago while sitting outside enjoying the night sky was that the moon looked 'different'... like the 'man in the moon's' appearance and orientation shifted just enough to be noticable if you looked long enough... (which we were doing, talking and enjoying the view)... haven't really had a chance to sit out lately but planning to do so soon before the weather turns again.

[Carmody]

In their search for smaller, faster information-storage devices, physicists have been exploring ways to encode magnetic data using electric fields. One advantage of this voltage-induced magnet control is that less power is needed to encode information than in a traditional system.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-magnetic-memories-voltage.html



and magnetism ---is tied to gravitation. gravitation appearing to be a statistical average over a gross or large area, as is similar to a heat calculation. since all of our math is based on the idea of reality and the minute levels behaving in gross mass aggregate ways..and all or earliest experiments being based in those areas..we end up with models that fail to understand or to take into account the effect of ionic charge density as being a fundamental doorway into and of dimensional energetic transfer.

The only thing that ever did this, was Maxwell's original mathematics done in quaternion notation, of 20 equations in 20 unknowns.

Maxwell's mathematics was based on a material that bridged the gap between dimensions. A quantum based fluid that has aspects of BOTH dimensions and time. it crosses the boundary. And that was Faraday's original experiments into electricity using LIQUID MERCURY.

Maxwell's math was based on Faraday's observation of multi-aspect/multi-axis torsional fundamentals, in the motions of the liquid mercury, under the influence of electric and current fields.

electrical complex impedance is a function of lattice structured frozen solids,and lies no-where else.

Oliver Heaviside altered Maxwell's mathematics so engineers could make motors from calculations far easier, as the story goes. Heaviside threw away the multi-dimensional aspects in favor of engineering motors. So the motors would not go into runaway over-unity..you see. That's what motors, dynamos...that's what they used to do. Spin really fast, levitate... and explode from going up to and over 100,000 rpm. The hidden hand reached into prevent that from getting out there. Godzilla in the background, as Wade is calling it, in his thread.

Maxwell's mathematics showed that you could manipulate ionic interactive to integrate with time and timelessness. dimensions and mass aggregates. It delineated this CLEARLY, via simple interpretation.

Which is WHY the PTB removed it from publication in its full form. That the origins of time and this 3d space could be shown to be an opening within the behavior of quantum aspects of ionic charge--AS a massed group. A quantum fluid. Water, etc. anything that is a free floating (individual) atomic structure --not frozen, like glass, or rock, etc.

However, properly formed, those lattice structure frozen materials can act as lenses or gates, or oscillators. Thus piezoelectricity, transistors, lasers, etc. Our best time keeping devices, you might note, are coming from gasses, excited by lasers, controlled by electricity and lasers.these re terms for the effects involved. Time is a function of energy across the minute dimensional vortexes, thus the polarized light, oscillated, controls the fundamental gas..and we have accurate timekeeping. We are working directly with the "gap or bridge to solid, from dimensional fundamentals."

Now, space is exactly that, a highly charged ionic environment, and thus it integrates with scalar based functions in utter perfection. It has aspects of it that are out of time and dimension. Thus as it integrates with the mass aggregates and is the 95% of missing mass that steers the big 'mass' chunks around, the planets and stars... and deeply involved in their formation and motion, then they can show this timeless aspect.

Thus the fact that astrology works as a statistical averaging system. It can plot the statistical direction, averaging, of time, out of time, while observed from within time. The 95% of the universe's missing mass is the steering point of the motion of the mass aggregates, thus the timeless aspects are the steering point of the heavens, thus astrology functioning.

We enter this highly charged area of space, the energies available are increasing and it shows up as problems with the sun's output and behavior, a physical shifting of the planet earth and the solar system, heating of the planets due to charge entering and exiting on the scalar level (flow rate change of the fundamentals--high ionic pressure differentials, with scalar and dimensional interactives), a rising of personal power and consciousness, and a rising of awareness.

[Pete]

I was listening to a recent interview between benjamin fulford and david wilcock. If I recall correctly he alluded to the fact that we should look at the moon closely this coming month. He would not be put on the spot but I got the feeling that there was the possibility that there was going to be some type of disclosure. He mentioned that the orbit or cycle was actually going to be a little longer this time and that we should keep a close eye upon the waxing moon.
I also read a recent communication from salusa, not sure if that's the correct spelling but it was attached to one of the members here. In this she or he suggested that there would be evidence of terraforming on the moon which would obviously be visible to all and impossible for the authorities to cover up.
lets hope
by the way check out reddragonleo.com he shows a satellite image of hurricane Irene and the obvious manipulation of the storm that seems to depower and deflect the hurricane out to sea. Maybe the observers are getting involved?

[Carmody]

There are always possibilities. The universe works in mysterious ways.

If these gentlemen did it, then maybe they were put in place to do so, at this exact time. Or, the story is false, and is being used as a cover. Or, that it was a simple natural event, being hyped for god knows what by god knows who. Or some variant of any of the above, and more.


The first rule you end up finding about how the the energy of the system works - is that there are no coincidences. Everything fits, everything syncs.... in complete utter perfection. Before that, though, comes observation, realization, a paranoid reaction... and then..the adrenaline fades.... and reason returns. It takes a few years, if one is lucky, or perseveres with desire to be clear, and that can only be issued as an interanl command to not cloud the self with projections of reasoning. Some get stuck in various stages.

People will believe, individually... as they need to, according to their base and form.

Individual road, individual view, individual result, -- individual expansion of the given self.

http://pesn.com/2011/08/26/9501903_Weather-Rangers_keeping_Hurricanes_away/