"We will distract them with fornication and games..." - The Secret Covenant

[Tenzin]

Some of you may be aware of this clip, but I am bringing attention to this section specifically.

"We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they may never connect to their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they many never be one with their oneness of it all. Their mind will belong to us and they will do as we say..." - extract starting from 2:23 of clip below


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The sex movement is to distract us alright, but I believe the damage goes further than that as we need to be celibate to achieve HIGH level of spiritual attainment, as the sexual energy and fluid wasted through orgasm has to be preserved for it to rise up through our chakra centers in deep meditation. Mind control is at work to make us think we need to release this energy regularly, and even to stay healthy.

Fluoride in water calcifies the pineal gland and prevents us from seeing the mental light that is supposed to boot up once we shut down the mind from all conscious thinking. This light will become brighter with effort and patience, which will assist in accessing our higher spiritual capabilities. With fluoride in almost all drinking water, that is why we are having a hard time making even the initial progress and only the very determined or the already 'spiritually healthy ones' will be able to break through the very first barrier.

[noprophet]

I always found this character very interesting from Dr Strangelove... He's supposed to have gone mad but there was a reason Kubrick chose these two specific things, especially in relation to this conversation.

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[DNA]

I always found this character very interesting from Dr Strangelove... He's supposed to have gone mad but there was a reason Kubrick chose these two specific things, especially in relation to this conversation.

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Amazing job! Corrolating the threads intent with such an obscure pop culture reference.
This type of corrolating takes information I hold at arms length and allows me to become more at ease with it.
Giving me a comfort zone by making it familiar.
Good Job My friend.

[MorningSong]

Here is a copy of the doc this lady is reading...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27859032/The-Secret-Covenant-of-the-Illuminati-Final-Copy

This needs to go viral, me thinks!

PS....could someone who is subscribed to scribd please send me a copy????

[Muzz]

You can copy and paste it from here (http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/02-08-05/discussion.cgi.58.html). :)

[truth4me]

Look at American television. Constantly promoting Viagra. Every goofy sitcom has sexual comments all thru them. Football promotes violence and sex with scantly clad cheer leaders. "conquer the enemy then make love". A Seinfeld episode once had the character George going celibate and he became "smarter" . The women were attracted to him yet when he gave in he lost his "essence" and the women sensed it and left him alone. They,the Illuminati, sit right here and tell us what they are doing and we like it. Yes the spiritual battlefield is tough. What gets me is the a sleep people think you are so "uncool" if you don't party and chase women or men. That Doctor Strangelove clip is spot on....I used to party heavy back in the day and I mean serious dope and have personally been involved with some sick sexual practices and I am proud that I got away from all that crap. Sometimes as a old saying I heard once stated, you have to through hell to get to heaven. For some of us or at least me that is true.....

[Flasky]

... If we are the same as them, one with them, then why do they hate us so much? What have we done to them? I don't get it...How do they have so much energy for so much hatred? What for? ---And when they get total control (never gonna happen) what are they going to do? Get bored? ...?

[kathymarie]

...and not just American tv....UK television was bawdy when we still portrayed Rob and Laurie from Dick Van Dyke Show in twin beds.

[Taurean]

I suppose junk email is all part of this program as well.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

[Tenzin]

... If we are the same as them, one with them, then why do they hate us so much? What have we done to them? I don't get it...How do they have so much energy for so much hatred? What for? ---And when they get total control (never gonna happen) what are they going to do? Get bored? ...?

Wouldn't say it is hate. To them, it is just how things are; a practical mean to stay happy. They are perfect illustration that one does not need to be morally upright to be happy. They certainly sleep very soundly despite their deeds. Besides, to hate, they would have made themselves weak with that kind of emotion. For them to do such 'evil', they certainly must have known a way to bypass or abuse the mechanics of 'cause and effect' within this matrix; the manipulation of energy.

We can definitely free ourselves, and that is what they have been trying to prevent all these while. I would venture to say they are not 100% successful, so there is GREAT HOPE! Otherwise, why would they bother to trouble themselves with all these rituals and global events to ensure the NWO comes to complete manifestation?

Rejoice, for many are awakening! :)

I love this following clip, so going to post this again whenever I have the chance. lol


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[Lord Sidious]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

[JohannaStarr]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.

[Calz]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

There are some that promote that idea.

We are here in this 3d polarity environment to "learn lessons". No light without dark etc.

Theory goes that we should be grateful for said "lessons" and that those of darker persuasion will still carry the karmic debt and thus are doing a service to humanity even if many/most of them don't realize it.

So the theory goes :)

[Lord Sidious]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

There are some that promote that idea.

We are here in this 3d polarity environment to "learn lessons". No light without dark etc.

Theory goes that we should be grateful for said "lessons" and that those of darker persuasion will still carry the karmic debt and thus are doing a service to humanity even if many/most of them don't realize it.

So the theory goes :)

It is indeed a theory.

[ulli]

Anyone who knows of Ingo Swann and has read about his work as a psychic in government funded projects
may be aware of his discoveries about the misdirection of sexuality in the masses.
His book "Psychic Sexuality" is a meticulously researched document of the history of sexual manipulation by the ptb, as well as his own findings about why they did it.
The answers have to do with chakra energies. Studying the energetic light body, especially one's own, will show how all these things are interrelated, and why the power hungry who have blocked all access to their inner source, need to feed off of the energy body of others, the younger, the better. Pure vampirism.

[Muzz]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

Reminded me of the Elite Insider (http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005)

We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free
yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.
Prove you are worthy again to be released.

[THIRDEYE]

it is so evident that we a a species are being bombardment of the powers to be...the more i grow in the road les traveled of light and love i see the signs of all the agendas everywhere and every day....i was in a store not to long i ago i opened myself up and let my vibrations flow...it was amazing the responses i encountered...some poeple were down right uncomfortable and others were very interested in what they felt.... its a good feeling to open your energy field and spread the gift of light....set aside the fearmongering and let your energy field floiw with love and watch the responses you get....love light and abundance...thirdeye....

[Heart-2-Heart]

Being danish myself...I can confirm what Peter says...But I have not bought a newspaper for more than 25 years...Todays news tomorrows waste....same same but different...
H2H

[Lisab]

Tenzin I had just read this but as the Anunnaki Secret Covanent and was going to post it as my first ever thread on my mates lap top as I'm on an ifone!! You beat me to it!
I wonder if when they say "members of these groups will think they are one of us, never knowing the truth" their referring to the illumanati and is the Anunnaki or Lucifarion energies. It also states "for their work they will be rewarded earthly things and great titles, but NEVER will they become immortal and join us"
And some more - we will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans.
We will promise them eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.
The recruits will be called initiates and they will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.
Bless 'em thanks Lisa x

[RedeZra]

the illuminati thinks of themselves as special and distinct from humanity at large and so they scheme to secure and stay in power as they are "the once who from heaven to earth came"

but they seem to fear "the fury of the Prime Creator who will cast them into the depths from once we came and remain there until the end of time of infinity itself"


this tells me that the illuminati see themselves as descendants of the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" - the Nephilim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim) and "the sons of Anak" the Anunnaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki)

and so the progenitors of the illuminati are a group of heavenly beings or Watchers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel))known to posterity as the fallen angels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_angel)

so by this we know there is an intimate relationship between the illuminati and hell ; )

[Tenzin]

Talk about coincidence... the season finale I have been waiting for actually touched on the concept of sexual energy too!

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Check out the entire Spirit Science series from the uploader!

[Tenzin]

Tenzin I had just read this but as the Anunnaki Secret Covanent and was going to post it as my first ever thread on my mates lap top as I'm on an ifone!! You beat me to it!
I wonder if when they say "members of these groups will think they are one of us, never knowing the truth" their referring to the illumanati and is the Anunnaki or Lucifarion energies. It also states "for their work they will be rewarded earthly things and great titles, but NEVER will they become immortal and join us"
And some more - we will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans.
We will promise them eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.
The recruits will be called initiates and they will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.
Bless 'em thanks Lisa x

Oh no... I denied you of your virgin thread! Please, I look forward to what you have to share!!

I came across this and the information just connected with what I know from my meditation experiences and that of others, so I know this is what people really need to know.

As for those recruits, they are going to be in deep trouble when they are being left behind. Hope they know when to turn back. I believe there are certain stronger controlling races/beings providing them with their 'support' all the while.

[Lisab]

It's a great thread. Divine timing! Thankyou x

[truth4me]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.
I understand what your saying about sex and it's true but having sex with people without purpose is a form of masturbation for the people involved. I'm not judging anyone but the action's of the whole have produced a planet with 7 billion people. Research shows us that our planet stays balanced with roughly 650 million people. If the earth was a car it would be like having 200,000 miles ran on it before changing the oil........

[truth4me]

the illuminati thinks of themselves as special and distinct from humanity at large and so they scheme to secure and stay in power as they are "the once who from heaven to earth came"

but they seem to fear "the fury of the Prime Creator who will cast them into the depths from once we came and remain there until the end of time of infinity itself"


this tells me that the illuminati see themselves as descendants of the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" - the Nephilim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim) and "the sons of Anak" the Anunnaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki)

and so the progenitors of the illuminati are a group of heavenly beings or Watchers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel))known to posterity as the fallen angels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_angel)

so by this we know there is an intimate relationship between the illuminati and hell ; )
The only way we can understand the "clues" left to us is to keep advancing spiritually.That is the reason we on this forum and other forums can understand and "see" what is being thrown at us by the Illuminati ,NWO,etc;.

[HORIZONS]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.
I understand what your saying about sex and it's true but having sex with people without purpose is a form of masturbation for the people involved. I'm not judging anyone but the action's of the whole have produced a planet with 7 billion people. Research shows us that our planet stays balanced with roughly 650 million people. If the earth was a car it would be like having 200,000 miles ran on it before changing the oil........

I can remember having sex only for self gratification - the way the carnal nature of humans seek pleasure - and how this would leave me feeling empty afterwards, but now (after many years of practice) my sexual relationship has taken on a whole new aspect as we have learned to freely give of our sexual energy to the other partner, and in so doing we create an energy that is shared - a giving back and forth between us - at a level we have never known before. This energy we share between us becomes the purpose in our sexual relationship - it is not masturbation, a waste of bodily fluids - it is a giving and a sharing of ourselves on a very deep level, and is difficult to explain, it must be experienced. We do not watch TV, nor have newspapers and such - the stimulants of this world - we have a very secluded lifestyle and are not involved in the ways of this world in many ways - I have been through many years of meditation and spiritual practice, and have even abstained from sex for a time or two when I needed to - but I have learned there are no absolutes to be found! There is always a next level to everything - sex included. Yes, sex is grossly misunderstood by this world system and perverted by the mass media and others, as is everything else, including food - do we abstain from food just because it has been perverted too? There may be a time when you need to abstain - fast - from food, and then when you've learned what you needed to learn, what food is really for, you can go back to it with a whole new mindset, and it becomes something very new to you and in the way you interact with it - I have done this as well - this is my experience in these matters. All things can be used for either good or evil and everything in-between - Spiritual Balance is the key, but this must be learned and realized as it is not natural to us in this current state we are in. Intention, Attraction, Allowance and Balance come in to play with this subject, just as with most all other subjects. Bring the Spirit in to what you do - in all things - and those things will never be the same as they were before, and you will be changed too. Peace~

[Carmody]

Hi Everyone,

This shows how evil they are... i struggle everyday more and more to keep my temper down .. i am boiling inside and very very touchy. something is going on which i am not in control over...

Concerning the media and what they show; have a look at the most read newspaper in Denmark www.eb.dk and see all the sex they have in there. No wonder the Danes ( i am one myself) are being played with.

You will have to google translate the web page, but you will catch the drift.

Love you all
Peter

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

This is why the Buddhist is crying and laughing at the same time.

this is why, when you speak to the Buddhist, they speak of love.

However, your awareness must come first. Thus the push from all sides.

No loopholes, no escape, but to look inside.

[Carmody]

It cannot be done for you, you must do it yourself. Otherwise, the result would be...nothing.

Now, with renewed viewpoint and understanding, run through those lyrics one more time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wxHEBT7aaU

[ceetee9]

I suppose junk email is all part of this program as well.Yes and blogs like PA. ;)

[ceetee9]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.
I understand what your saying about sex and it's true but having sex with people without purpose is a form of masturbation for the people involved. I'm not judging anyone but the action's of the whole have produced a planet with 7 billion people. Research shows us that our planet stays balanced with roughly 650 million people. If the earth was a car it would be like having 200,000 miles ran on it before changing the oil........

I can remember having sex only for self gratification - the way the carnal nature of humans seeks pleasure - and how this would leave me feeling empty afterwards, but now (after many years of practice) my sexual relationship has taken on a whole new aspect as we have learned to freely give of our sexual energy to the other partner, and in so doing we create an energy that is shared - a giving back and forth between us - at a level we have never known before. This energy we share between us becomes the purpose in our sexual relationship - it is not masturbation, a waste of bodily fluids - it is a giving and a sharing of ourselves on a very deep level, and is difficult to explain, it must be experienced. We do not watch TV, nor have newspapers and such - the stimulants of this world - we have a very secluded lifestyle and are not involved in the ways of this world in many ways - I have been through many years of meditation and spiritual practice, and have even abstained from sex for a time or two when I needed to - but I have learned there are no absolutes to be found! There is always a next level to everything - sex included. Yes, sex is grossly misunderstood by this world system and perverted by the mass media and others, as is everything else, including food - do we abstain from food just because it has been perverted too? There may be a time when you need to abstain - fast - from food, and then when you've learned what you needed to learn, what food is really for, you can go back to it with a whole new mindset, and it becomes something very new to you and in the way you interact with it - I have done this as well - this is my experience in these matters. All things can be used for either good or evil and everything in-between - Spiritual Balance is the key, but this must be learned and realized as it is not natural to us in this current state we are in. Intention, Attraction, Allowance and Balance come in to play with this subject, just as with most all other subjects. Bring the Spirit in to what you do - in all things - and those things will never be the same as they were before, and you will be change too. Peace~Very well stated 'Horizons.' You get it.

[GlassSteagallfan]

This might be the original source:


Article as is it originally appeared on the Bankindex.com web site on 21 June 2002:
THE SECRET COVENANT. Full version, rated R !


THE SECRET COVENANT

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their
perception....



The Bankindex editorial staff thanks you for all your e-mails regarding this piece, but we do NOT know who he or she is. The piece came in through one of our forms and the Author left an unusable e-mail address. Thank you.

Written by UNKNOWN Author has submitted second version, Posted 6/21/2002

[ghostrider]

there is no evil only the absense of Good. We can shine brighter and expose the darkness to the world....

[Maia Gabrial]

Illuminatis=zionists=illuminatis=zionists=illuminatis=zionists

[WhiteFeather]

Isnt this just amazing that many are able to still awaken with all this crap going on behind the scenes! Great Post OP. Thank You

[Lord Sidious]

Illuminatis=zionists=illuminatis=zionists=illuminatis=zionists

Even though those two factions have overlapping members, they are merely two parts of a much larger problem.
I have no idea how many factions there really are within the control paradigm, nor do I care.
Neither of these two have as much power as they think or you think.

[doodah]

... they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

No, it doesn't. I've heard this excuse before and I don't buy it. This is an extension of the "we only grow through pain" theory of life, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't buy that either. We actually grow best without pain, but that only happens when there's a lot of love available.

[Lord Sidious]

... they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

No, it doesn't. I've heard this excuse before and I don't buy it. This is an extension of the "we only grow through pain" theory of life, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't buy that either. We actually grow best without pain, but that only happens when there's a lot of love available.

I think excuse is not the correct word.
I do not seek you to excuse me, so that word doesn't fit.

[Charlie Pecos]

I am finding the possibility that they are not evil becoming more of a probability.
In the same way that I must have volunteered to come here as a guide, they have done the same, but as a catalyst to cause people trouble, so they get the spark for their awakening.
So they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

Quite agree, but will go a little further. What is good and what is bad? It is all a matter of perspective, isn't it! I am beginning to understand that when one is of the mind that something is evil, one is operating with a limited mindset, viewing things from a limited construct. Not to say that I condone evil acts, but there is a higher understanding to be had if one is able to let go of ones preconceived notions and beliefs. And many, many times, something that appears to be bad ends up being good when all is said and done.
At the very least, who says negative experiences are not useful?

[Carmody]

What do the Buddhists say?

Any honest search for the truth is valid.


Edit:

The JW came to my door about 2 weeks back, and then they came back...about 1 week back. The second time I answered. I told them to not waste their energy. That if they honestly were searching for truth, that is fine with me, I have no quarrel with that. I'm not really interested in quarrel, for the most part. That dang exception part, it always grabs you.

And that I was fine. They specifically asked me if they needed to come back. They one guy seemed very serious, a good look in the eye, etc. Near the upper part of their local group, I wagered. I told him that there was no need to come back. I had expanded on the above point with them, in a few sentences.

I had been assessed and filed, was my guess...and that is what they seemed to want. An on the spot assessment for their records, possibly.

[Tenzin]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.
I understand what your saying about sex and it's true but having sex with people without purpose is a form of masturbation for the people involved. I'm not judging anyone but the action's of the whole have produced a planet with 7 billion people. Research shows us that our planet stays balanced with roughly 650 million people. If the earth was a car it would be like having 200,000 miles ran on it before changing the oil........


I can remember having sex only for self gratification - the way the carnal nature of humans seek pleasure - and how this would leave me feeling empty afterwards, but now (after many years of practice) my sexual relationship has taken on a whole new aspect as we have learned to freely give of our sexual energy to the other partner, and in so doing we create an energy that is shared - a giving back and forth between us - at a level we have never known before. This energy we share between us becomes the purpose in our sexual relationship - it is not masturbation, a waste of bodily fluids - it is a giving and a sharing of ourselves on a very deep level, and is difficult to explain, it must be experienced. We do not watch TV, nor have newspapers and such - the stimulants of this world - we have a very secluded lifestyle and are not involved in the ways of this world in many ways - I have been through many years of meditation and spiritual practice, and have even abstained from sex for a time or two when I needed to - but I have learned there are no absolutes to be found! There is always a next level to everything - sex included. Yes, sex is grossly misunderstood by this world system and perverted by the mass media and others, as is everything else, including food - do we abstain from food just because it has been perverted too? There may be a time when you need to abstain - fast - from food, and then when you've learned what you needed to learn, what food is really for, you can go back to it with a whole new mindset, and it becomes something very new to you and in the way you interact with it - I have done this as well - this is my experience in these matters. All things can be used for either good or evil and everything in-between - Spiritual Balance is the key, but this must be learned and realized as it is not natural to us in this current state we are in. Intention, Attraction, Allowance and Balance come in to play with this subject, just as with most all other subjects. Bring the Spirit in to what you do - in all things - and those things will never be the same as they were before, and you will be changed too. Peace~


That makes sense. And I would add it is exactly because of the environment we are in right now that makes restrain EVEN MORE important if one is determined to be free from this illusion we are living in.

It depends on how far we want to go spiritually as well, that's why I mentioned celibacy is necessary for "HIGH" spiritual attainment in the first post.

[TWINCANS]

... as we need to be celibate to achieve HIGH level of spiritual attainment, as the sexual energy and fluid wasted through orgasm has to be preserved for it to rise up through our chakra centers in deep meditation.

I would like to suggest that this is a simplistic view of how to actualize our creative abilities using the most powerful force available to us in the 3D body. Are you familiar with the work of Mantak Chia? The mantra of celibacy = enlightenment is how the Christian Church controlled humans in the first place. It's much more complicated. Isn't it time we actually learned about the power that is the human birthright?


Just an example of Chia's thinking:
http://www.whyarewewhispering.com/qanda/expert_interviews_files/sex_is_natural_not_sinful.html

[raymond]

... as we need to be celibate to achieve HIGH level of spiritual attainment, as the sexual energy and fluid wasted through orgasm has to be preserved for it to rise up through our chakra centers in deep meditation.

I would like to suggest that this is a simplistic view of how to actualize our creative abilities using the most powerful force available to us in the 3D body. Are you familiar with the work of Mantak Chia? The mantra of celibacy = enlightenment is how the Christian Church controlled humans in the first place. It's much more complicated. Isn't it time we actually learned about the power that is the human birthright?


Just an example of Chia's thinking:
http://www.whyarewewhispering.com/qanda/expert_interviews_files/sex_is_natural_not_sinful.html


Mantak Chia does not advocate ejaculatory sex.

He advocates sex without ejaculation thus preserving the seminal fluid and the spiritual energy which is contained in the fluid.

He also encourages one to first start the path of spiritual cultivation as an individual and once a seeker gets in tune with his own self, then should he start looking for a partner to practice sexual cultivation with.

At all times, he had never stated that one must find a mate to practice cultivation. He stressed it is important to master the basics of mastering your individual self first before engaging in dual cultivation practices with a partner.

SO the OP is right in more ways than one.

[raymond]

Sex is also an expression and act of love; part of a loving, fun, relationship. Clearly it depends on how it used / portrayed.
I understand what your saying about sex and it's true but having sex with people without purpose is a form of masturbation for the people involved. I'm not judging anyone but the action's of the whole have produced a planet with 7 billion people. Research shows us that our planet stays balanced with roughly 650 million people. If the earth was a car it would be like having 200,000 miles ran on it before changing the oil........

I can remember having sex only for self gratification - the way the carnal nature of humans seek pleasure - and how this would leave me feeling empty afterwards, but now (after many years of practice) my sexual relationship has taken on a whole new aspect as we have learned to freely give of our sexual energy to the other partner, and in so doing we create an energy that is shared - a giving back and forth between us - at a level we have never known before. This energy we share between us becomes the purpose in our sexual relationship - it is not masturbation, a waste of bodily fluids - it is a giving and a sharing of ourselves on a very deep level, and is difficult to explain, it must be experienced. We do not watch TV, nor have newspapers and such - the stimulants of this world - we have a very secluded lifestyle and are not involved in the ways of this world in many ways - I have been through many years of meditation and spiritual practice, and have even abstained from sex for a time or two when I needed to - but I have learned there are no absolutes to be found! There is always a next level to everything - sex included. Yes, sex is grossly misunderstood by this world system and perverted by the mass media and others, as is everything else, including food - do we abstain from food just because it has been perverted too? There may be a time when you need to abstain - fast - from food, and then when you've learned what you needed to learn, what food is really for, you can go back to it with a whole new mindset, and it becomes something very new to you and in the way you interact with it - I have done this as well - this is my experience in these matters. All things can be used for either good or evil and everything in-between - Spiritual Balance is the key, but this must be learned and realized as it is not natural to us in this current state we are in. Intention, Attraction, Allowance and Balance come in to play with this subject, just as with most all other subjects. Bring the Spirit in to what you do - in all things - and those things will never be the same as they were before, and you will be changed too. Peace~

Food is very much linked to sex. All meats, fish and even some veg contain substances which contain pollution of the mind. This is why the highest spiritual cultivators in the past went on periods of frequent fasting and at the very least subsist on a vegetarian diet.

[sunnyrap]

I recently found Mark Passio's material and he answers this question quite brilliantly. A lot of his material is a distillation of Jordan Maxwell, Icke, Tsarion, etc., (who he acknowledges as having lead him to his own researches) but having listened to all of them and now him, I find Mark's presentations very succinct, clear and holistic. He has no particular avarice for the 'illuminati' or Masons, just points out what the 'rogue' ones are doing and why. I recommend watching his 'Free Your Mind' series if you're not someone who has exhaustively studied Jordan Maxwell et al's materials...or even if you have, Mark's take filled in some blanks in my mind:

http://www.whatonearthishappening.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=43&Itemid=57

[TWINCANS]

... as we need to be celibate to achieve HIGH level of spiritual attainment, as the sexual energy and fluid wasted through orgasm has to be preserved for it to rise up through our chakra centers in deep meditation.

I would like to suggest that this is a simplistic view of how to actualize our creative abilities using the most powerful force available to us in the 3D body. Are you familiar with the work of Mantak Chia? The mantra of celibacy = enlightenment is how the Christian Church controlled humans in the first place. It's much more complicated. Isn't it time we actually learned about the power that is the human birthright?


Just an example of Chia's thinking:
http://www.whyarewewhispering.com/qanda/expert_interviews_files/sex_is_natural_not_sinful.html


Mantak Chia does not advocate ejaculatory sex.

He advocates sex without ejaculation thus preserving the seminal fluid and the spiritual energy which is contained in the fluid.

He also encourages one to first start the path of spiritual cultivation as an individual and once a seeker gets in tune with his own self, then should he start looking for a partner to practice sexual cultivation with.

At all times, he had never stated that one must find a mate to practice cultivation. He stressed it is important to master the basics of mastering your individual self first before engaging in dual cultivation practices with a partner.

SO the OP is right in more ways than one.


The suggestion here is to delve deeper into the subject, because there are many traditions with slightly different views on the subject. IMO Mantak Chia comes from the samurai-type abstinence makes strength martial approach. He shows excllence, undoubtedly.

Then we see the yogic, as with this Twin Flame couple who also show excellence:
http://www.sacredmountainretreat.org/articles/article_TantraAsCompletePath.htm

[doodah]

... they aren't evil people, just doing evil things, if that makes sense to you?

No, it doesn't. I've heard this excuse before and I don't buy it. This is an extension of the "we only grow through pain" theory of life, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't buy that either. We actually grow best without pain, but that only happens when there's a lot of love available.

I think excuse is not the correct word.
I do not seek you to excuse me, so that word doesn't fit.

Words... what a problem they are!

Excuse, reason, rationale, explanation, justification, rationalization

[Charlie Pecos]

...I have learned there are no absolutes to be found! There is always a next level to everything
Exactly! Truth is fleeting at best, we find one and shortly thereafter learn another truth which renders that one obsolete- if we are operating with an open mind that is.

[Hughe]

Here is another version.

It made me rethink about the Annunaki. Some folks try to build good relationship with them. Hmm. IMHO, they evolved ahead of us. Like we treat and use animals for our benefit, they have been using us for their own benefit. Would they consider us future friends? I doubt it.
Most humans will really upset they need to treat their pets as sentient beings. Humans vs animals, Annunaki vs humans.

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An illusion it will be,
so vast it will escape
their perception.

Those who will see it will
be thought of as insane.

We will create separate
fronts to prevent them
from seeing the
connection between us.
We will behave as if we are
not connected to keep the
illusion alive.

Out goal will be
accomplished one drop at
a time so as to never bring
suspicion upon ourselves.
This will also prevent them
from seeing
the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the
relative field of their experience
for we know the secrets of the
absolute.

We will work together
always and will remain
bound by blood and
secrecy. Death will come
to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan
short and their minds weak
while
pretending to do the
opposite.

We will use our knowledge
of science and technology
in subtle
ways so they will never see
what is happening.

We will use soft metals,
aging accelerators and
sedatives in
food and water, also in the
air.

They will be
blanketed by poisons
everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause
them to lose their minds.
We will
promise to find a cure from
our many fronts,
yet we will
feed them more poison.

The poisons will be
absorbed through their skin
and mouths,
they will destroy their minds
and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children
will be born dead, and we
will conceal
this information.

The poisons will be hidden
in everything that
surrounds them,
in what they drink, eat,
breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious
in dispensing the
poisons for they
can see far.

We will teach them
that the poisons are
good, with fun images
and musical tones.

Those they look up to
will help. We will
enlist them to
push our poisons.

They will see our products
being used in film and
will grow accustomed to them
and will never know
their true effect.

When they give birth we will
inject poisons into the blood
of their children and
convince them them its for their
help.

We will start early on, when
their minds are young, we will
target their children with what
children love most, sweet
things.

When their teeth decay we
will fill them with metals
that will kill their mind and
steal their future.

When their ability to learn has
been affected,
we will create medicine that will
make them sicker and cause
other
diseases for
which we will create yet
more medicine.

We will render them
docile and weak
before us by our
power.

They will grow depressed,
slow and obese, and when
they
come to us for help, we will
give them more poison.

We will focus their attention
toward money and material
goods
so they may never connect
with their inner self.

We will distract
them with fornication, external
pleasures and games so they
may
never be one with the oneness
of it all.

Their minds will
belong to us and they
will do as we say.

If they refuse we shall find ways
to implement mind-altering
technology
into their lives. We will use fear
as our weapon.

We will establish their
governments and establish
opposites within.
We will own both sides.

We will always hide
our objective but
carry out our plan.

They will perform the
labor for us and we shall
prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix
with theirs. Our blood must
be pure
always, for it is the way.

We will make them
kill each other when it
suits us.

We will keep them
separated from the oneness
by dogma and religion.

We will control all
aspects of their lives
and tell them what to
think and how

We will guide them kindly
and gently letting them
think they are guiding
themselves.

We will foment
animosity between
them through our
factions.

When a light shall shine
among them, we shall
extinguish it by ridicule,
or death, whichever suits
us best.

We will make them
rip each other's
hearts apart and kill
their own children.

We will accomplish
this by using hate as
our ally, anger as our
friend.

The hate will blind them
totally, and never shall they
see that from their
conflicts we emerge as
their rulers.
They will be busy killing
each other.

They will bathe in their
own blood and kill their
neighbors for as long
as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly
from this, for they will
not see us, for they
cannot see us.

We will continue to
prosper from their
wars and their
deaths.

We shall repeat this
over and over until
our ultimate goal is
accomplished.

We will continue to make
them live in fear and anger
through images and
sounds.

We will use all the
tools we have to
accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by
their labor.

We will make them hate
themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the
divine truth from them, that
we are all one.
This they must never
know!

They must never know
that color is an illusion,
they must always
think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop
by drop we will
advance our goal.

We will take over their
land, resources and
wealth to exercise total
control over them.

We will deceive them into
accepting laws that will
steal the little
freedom they will have.

We will establish a money
system that will imprison them
forever,
keeping them and their children
in debt.

When they shall ban
together, we shall accuse
them of crimes and present
a
different story to the world
for we shall own all the
media.

We will use our media to
control the flow of information
and their sentiment
in our favor.

When they shall rise up
against us we will crush
them like insects, for
they are less than that.

They will be helpless
to do anything for
they will have no
weapons.

We will recruit some of
their own to carry out our
plans, we will promise
them
eternal life,
but eternal life they will
never have for they are not
of us.

The recruits will be called
"initiates" and will be
indoctrinated to believe
false rites of passage to
higher realms.

Members of
these groups will think
they are one with us
never knowing the truth.
They must never learn this
truth for they will turn
against us.

For their work they will be
rewarded with earthly
things and great titles,
but never will they become
immortal and join us,
never will they receive
the light and travel the
stars.

They will never reach the
higher realms, for the
killing of their own kind
will prevent passage to the
realm of enlightenment.
This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in
their face, so close they
will not be able to focus
on it until its too late.
Oh yes, so grand the illusion of
freedom will be that they will never
know they
are our slaves.

When all is in place, the
reality we will have created
for them will own them.
This reality will be their
prison.
They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is
accomplished a new era
of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound
by their beliefs, the beliefs
we have established
from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out
they are our equal, we
shall perish then. THIS
THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out
that together they
can vanquish us,
they will take action.

They must never, ever find
out what we have done, for
if they do, we shall
have no place to run,
for it will be easy to see who
we are once the veil has
fallen.

Our actions will have
revealed who we are and
they will hunt us down
and no person shall give
us shelter.

This is the secret covenant
by which we shall live the
rest of our present
and future lives,
for this reality will transcend
many generations and life
spans.

This covenant is sealed
by blood, our blood.
We, the ones who from
heaven to earth came.


Think again about human intelligence.
Human children are dumber than chimps.
Chimpanzee vs. Human child learning (1/2)

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[Charlie Pecos]

Those who think they are in control are going to find out they ARE NOT in control. There is a higher order to the universe.