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Eric J (Viking)
30th August 2011, 07:26
Casper opinion on Quincey and company!!

Please read “THE EXECUTION OF SEAL TEAM SIX” by Ann Barnhardt, written on August 6th and posted on August 8th and making the rounds on the net now. Copies have been sent to RMN and Fourwinds, hopefully they will see fit to post it. It says what WE have been saying and reporting for more than two years, that Obama is a Communist Puppet, a Marxist Extremist, that he is by far the most dangerous man in American Political history, that he is not an American, that he and those he represents are hell bent upon the overthrow of our country, that the intentional crashing of our economy is the centerpiece of his plan and that the execution of Seal Team Six was to continue the cover-up of the phony Ben Laden operation and demonstrates the extremes to which these EXTREMIST, led by Obama, will go to maintain themselves in power and to keep ‘the plan’ alive and operable. You think it can not happen in America to America? You had better wake up people. What you are witnessing is not a dream.



· Now I am going to try to tackle what is for me the most difficult subject of all, that of the messages emanating from the various ‘Spiritual Websites’ such as the Mike Quinsey/SaLuSa material and the ‘Ashtar’ website and materials, for example. The reason I am doing this is because both continue to ‘pitch’ the idea that Obama is a good guy, an ascended master or similar, and recently one of them issued what appeared to be a ‘special bulletin’ reconfirming that Obama is their man, a good guy in spite of appearances. Because I view Spiritual Matters as the most personal of all subjects I would not normally offer these comments but feel I must do so now as they are ‘SELLING’ what I believe to be deadly POISON to the American people and doing so under the guise of ‘Advanced Spiritualism’, Advanced Consciousness, Ascended Masters and ‘understandings’ beyond our abilities to know. The poison being sold is Obama Personally and in turn what he stands for, I.E. Marxism/Communism, IMO. In the example of the Ashtar Site and Materials everything they do and say is For Sale. Magic Wands, Crystal Blankets, Conference Calls, etc., pay your money and become enlightened. Once before I wrote that I became a most serious student of ‘Matters Spiritual’ in the mid-eighties and remain so today. Of the many ‘lessons’ I learned, placing a ‘For Sale’ Sign on advanced teachings is one of the more egregious errors a ‘teacher’ can make. The collection of money for this, that and the other is and has been FIRST with this group since they first appeared on the scene. So here we have a group in violation of the very teachings they seek to advance, SELLING OBAMA to all who will listen. Selling Obama as ‘their man’, the good guy, the hero come to save us all, the one approved by them if not God himself. The SaLuSa material offered by Mike Quinsey was preceded by several other entities such as ‘Dianne’ (and many others, I’m to lazy to go to the archives) also from Quinsey, has never been ‘For Sale’ to the best of my knowledge and is, I think, an attractive and intelligent presentation of ‘possibilities’ and an ongoing description of how things are going to be---soon. ‘Soon’ is now twenty years and counting. Regarding this ‘For Sale’ business, there is nothing wrong, as I understand it, with writing and selling a book for example, how else can ‘knowledge’ be passed along? I have, like many of you, been reading most everything put forward from these and other sources for as long as I can remember, and I do agree that these people and their ‘Sites’ have as much right to their opinions about things, including Obama, as anyone else. It is when they present as ‘God Says’ Obama this or that, they have crossed a line and are no longer offering an ‘Opinion’, defined as such, but are saying God Says, the Ascended Masters say, and therefore who are you to question, Obama is here to save the world, ‘he is ours, we sent him’. Is this God speaking to you and me? Or is it a bunch of Marxist and Liberals who will do anything, say anything, anything at all, in co-operation with other Obama Supporters who desire a Communist America? If these groups are legit why won’t they address the simplest of questions previously asked publicly such as “why do Obama, Michelle and the Kids have secret Bank Accounts scattered all over the world containing vast sums of stolen money”? Why am I bothering with such a difficult and complicated subject? Because most folks have not invested the time necessary ‘to see’ and observe and therefore question the motivations of those behind these sites and this ‘Selling’ of Obama. Is ‘Brainwashing’ the motivation? In one religion, Christianity, there are more than 2100 ‘breakaway’ churches, each believing something different enough from the others that they ‘went out on their own’. I’m not talking about numbers of churches, there must be hundreds of thousands. I’m referring to ‘branches’ of Christianity just in America. And each has its “preacher’, its leader, standing before a group of people saying ‘here is the truth’. Meanwhile down the street and across the way there are other places, synagogues, mosque, etc. teaching their ‘truth’. What I am saying, trying to say is, Be Skeptical. Anyone asking you to take Obama on Blind Faith at this late hour, given all that is now known about him, while refusing to address the most basic of questions, does not, in my opinion, have our best interest as their primary motivation. Bellringer has more experience, more exposure, more accumulated knowledge of this subject than anyone else I know of. Perhaps he will accept this invitation to share his opinions/insights with you regarding the ‘Selling’ of Obama by ‘Spiritually Oriented’ messengers and web-sites.

I will update again in a couple of days. For some reason I felt the above needed to be said now.


Casper 8-29-11 opinion

http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1314668478

viking

the trojan
30th August 2011, 09:13
I posted about this before,I agree with this article.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16777-SaLuSa-Important-Update-on-March-18-2011&p=180504#post180504

SkepticSoul
30th August 2011, 10:12
i personaly don't really like how the 'channelers' sell stuff to people, not only after they're money but after they're mind aswell.
most of what they say is like they are the all knowing (whilst the people listening are dumb sjits) and mostly talk very arrogantly or with some strange tone in the voice or whatever.

Eric J (Viking)
1st September 2011, 10:35
With referance to the insiders statement... interesting exchange...

Subject: Casper's Puzzled Request

Dear Bellringers and Casper

Casper's outspoken position on SaLusa and others who claim Obama to be of great importance to the salvation of the US at this time has been weighing on my mind for quite some time now.until I started looking at the situation from a completely different point of view. Perhaps I'm wrong but I can't recall how any of the channelled Obama championers ever explained just how Obama was to carry out the saving of the American people and country. If he were to expose his plans and pretent to save our country in a swarthy or obviously heroic attitude like a gallant knight in shining armour, giving the US all the advantages we are hoping and praying for in a hero, he would have been cut down long before now by his Dark and Dirty Handlers who have been lurking behind the scenes for aeons.

Whether Obama is aware of it or not, I have not been able to puzzle this out yet with my wee brain, perhaps he is doing our country and the world a big favor by the corruption, chaos and pure evil he is spreading to the point that the Dark and Dirty are now at each other's throats and will soon destroy each other. And in the process,they may actually wake up the people to the impending hell. We can only hope. The question is, does he actually know that he is doing us a favor by following such blatantly stupid behavior or is he being used by God to fulfill a purpose by methodically destroying the toxic governing and banking structures that are now beginning to crumble.

Is it not a good thing that the existing corruption be brought to it's knees and completely fail before something good can be built from the ashes? I could be wring in my thinking but I don't see how the grip of the evil ones can be loosed without a complete failure of their power structures and I believe Obama is the man to continue stirring the pot of discontentment, corruption and deception, etc., etc., etc.

Again, I can't decide whether he is a sleeper, hiding and cooperating with the evil in his cleverness until the right moment or is he is actually as stupid as he seems. My money is on stupid. Either way he's doing a thorough job whether it's intended or not.

I would dearly love to hear your opinion on what Obama's purpose is since everyone here on earth at this time has a definite purpose and God, in times past has been known to use evil for eventual good.

Thank you for all you do for us.

Love and Light to All

MC

(Response)


Dear MC:

Thank you for your letter and comments. Others, including Casper, have also challenged me to make a statement concerning "your opinion on what Obama's purpose is" and the"selling of Obama by spiritually oriented messengers and websites". In essence I am being asked to "judge" Obama's intent and those making pronouncements about him.

I shall make my answer short, as I have already written much on this point. The issue is about judging Obama. The ignorance of the Christian community concerning The Laws of God and Creation has greatly influenced our society to not judge anyone. I have written an article, "People of the Lie: Judge Wisely". I encourage you to read it.

Basically, Law number 12 tell us to not condemn any human being , but to judge their actions and behaviors according to God's Laws. In doing so, I find that Obama is the most evil, low-life rat-fink that has ever been associated with any part of America. This is not my opinion. This is fact based upon Creator God's Laws for living on our planet, and those who claim otherwise are "false prophets!"

May you be discerning, my friend, and do read the most important of the Phoenix Journals, Phoenix Journal #27 for your edification.

In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer

REF: "PEOPLE OF THE LIE: JUDGE WISELY" http://www.truthwinds.com//siterun_data/bellringers_corner/people_of_the_lie/news.php?q=74561c0f8a5ae024410e6bead1f65c42

PHOENIX JOURNAL #27 "THE PHOENIX OPERATOR-OWNER MANUAL" http://truthwinds.com/journals/pdf/J027.pdf

~~~~~~~~

viking

The Truth Is In There
1st September 2011, 11:34
most of the channelled stuff these days is a lot of talk but not saying anything useful. it's for people who continually need to be told what to think, how to act, who are basically weak and need something to hold on to. i don't say that all those love and light messages are wrong or bad, most of them just don't offer anything useful to people who can think for themselves, make their own decisions and base their beliefs on their own common sense and not the promises of ascended masters or whatever. i've incorporated quite some channelled material into my own "worldview" but only after double and triple checking with other non-channelled info and after making sure that what they say agrees with my own perception. to use the obama example, i see all that talk about obama being god-sent and whatnot and the man is starting one war after another. somehow that doesn't add up. to me it looks more like the guy has been cloned for the very purpose he's currently being used for.

Darla Ken Pearce
1st September 2011, 13:00
For those who can make "evil" out of love and light ~ you have my sympathy. It's a cruel world so far and you have your reasons for this perception that are as valid as anything else we've experienced during our lifetimes. We share a very long history of betrayals by those we trusted and put in power prior to Obama and this has certainly NOT changed since he took office and has made decisions that are more than suspect to all with eyes to see.

Still, we are locked into the arms of duality and the animosity that comes from these old constructs that pit us against each other rather than concentrating on all that we share that makes us One ~ if we can see it. This will come once the darkness of duality ends which will be soon now. Thank goodness and mercy for its END.

Obama is a serious puzzle as THE GREAT WHITE HOPE. From what we see from him, it's difficult if not impossible to defend any of his actions just in our own minds using all of our experiences, knowledge, and discernment put together. When we put the ingredients we are seeing into a hat and mix it up ~ there is no possible magic coming forth from that hat that can make things "right." If there is ~ I do not see it.

I see what has been said about Obama as I post Celestial updates myself and I also wonder how one could possible follow actions versus intent and come out with anything good about this man from his actions alone or all we can see of them.

It appears he is betraying us not as a communist ~ this is a great misunderstanding based on world events to use this "label" at all but for all intents and purposes, there seems no possible reconciliation to be found for what appears to be decision after decision favoring the darkest of dark over the interests of millions of people, he is supposed to represent and preside over.

Yes, he does seem like one of the members of the dark himself. This I can see clearly with 3D eyes. In terms of GOOD AND EVIL ~ both 3D constructs. The only thing is that we are in the middle of transitioning OUT of 3D and into a higher realm of being. Put that idea on hold a second and suspend judgment right there.

Add to this the fever of the hour where bankers continue to profit while common folks are thrown out and onto the streets ~ seemingly with Obama's full cooperation and assistance. Well, this is highly suspect due to the very appearance of evil taking place here and I am one who was evicted and tossed right into heaven against my better judgement at the time it occurred which was last year at this time. This was frightening and pissed me off royally. No doubt about it.

Still maybe it was dangerous where I lived before and maybe angels couldn't get me to move otherwise. It took a bank and a sheriff to force me to move. I don't know but I was evicted into heaven. This much I do know. It has a lot to do with our own perceptions and ability to make sense of things. I will withhold any judgement until I can see how this plays out in the end. Since I am enjoying the heavenly forests of Sandpoint Idaho, I will give bankers a pass for now.

I am particularly distressed at Obama sending drones to bomb innocent civilians. This is the action of a coward not a good or worthy leader IMHO. His continuation of the endless war agenda is not something I have ever experienced with Celestial beings, so why are the channels applauding him at every opportunity?

They say things like he is forcing the dark to come forward so we can know and see who they are but isn't this pretend game taking him along with them and has he been swallowed up by dark and can't get to the light of a new day himself by now? Aren't all of "US versus THEM" the good ones who are part of this light of understanding and why can't we bridge this tremendous gap between what our eyes and hearts are telling us and what we are seeing acted out on a world stage. So what gives?

It could be that Obama is being blackmailed and threats of violence made against those he loves, I don't know what is happening behind closed doors. The Celestial beings who CAN see every conversation and KNOW what is happening in a higher perspective do tell us but can we trust them? If he was blackmailed, wouldn't they just say so? We cannot see this for ourselves just yet but we can hope to see it someday soon. They do support him and although I sure can't follow that either in blind faith ~ what I can and will do is allow events to play out without giving my support or withholding it. Until further notice, I am leaving my options open and neutral ~ as much as possible at least while he continues to send out orders to blindly bomb people to death and begin new wars against some I consider "good guys" and as he makes what appear to be wrongful decisions against all of us.

I feel his actions at least those I can see ~ are wrong and cause great harm. No other way to see this at present, at least to me. There is nothing possible I can say to defend what is being seen right now. None. Nada. Zilch. I don't have tools to bridge this gap and great abyss. Celestial beings do have tools to create a bridge for us but I don't know how to create one myself enough to walk in such thin air yet. I await further enlightenment that isn't here yet. I am looking forward to hearing a really GOOD explanation about his actions that I am NOT seeing right now. I have fully disengaged myself from all 3D constructs. This is not where I want to dwell anymore. It's redundant and over tiring and negative. I've moved on without Obama into my own light. Maybe we'll catch up some day and maybe not. It matters little to me now. Adios.

At this point in time or out of it ~ and we are leaving linear time at this moment, I will suspend judgment until I have something from my heart that comes to me directly. This making of judgments without enough information as to what is really happening here versus how things appear to be happening and for what reasons, I simple cannot SEE or SAY for sure.

Sorry but the Galactic Federation is on their own on Obama ~ I hope it turns out that he is a hero and good man. For now, I DO KNOW those higher realm beings have vision we haven't got yet ~ and that they know what they are talking about. I can give them the benefit of the doubt and not dwell there either. I hope all things good and I am open to making any adjustments necessary according to the dictates of my own heart. I also allow others the same privilege.

I look for a much kinder world where peace and love prevail over all and I am creating it now myself by leaving 3D constructs behind and finding a place of comfort and love in the wilderness and forests of my own being, so it matters not to me what Obama is or does anymore. And so it is...we can go forth into the light of a new day or not.

Eric J (Viking)
1st September 2011, 14:07
Dear Darla

What I can see with these types of messages is that it keeps us in 'suspense' ...so we do not 'act' or 'use' our concsiousness...WE MUST DO THIS OURSELVES...WE MUST...

What happens is that many folk read the content and decide that we are being watched and guided, and subconcsiously they do nothing with the conscioussness>>> think about it Darla ... THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

So what I mean is yes invite the Galactics to come down and offer us help, with dismantling the old and building the new...ect etc ... but do not become lazy with your thoughts and think that 'hey ho' they are doing it for us so we dont need to do anything...lets not sit lazily on our arses and expect...maybe this is the ploy from the PTB ... Tell them what will happen...give the impression that is just around the corner and they will sit on their laurels and not take their thoughts toward the light...

You all must understand that we can do sooooo much with our conscoiusness...WE ALL HAVE THE POWER!

There is no doubt in my mind that the Federation exists...yes it does...I know who the real Federation are... IMHO...yes they have said that they would intervene but only if we had a catastrophic earth upheaval and/or Nuclear exchange...

IMAGINE YOURSELF A BETTER WORLD AND WE WILL HAVE IT ...

Many of you know where I stand with 'The Federation' .... however my thoughts were thus with Quincey and co>>> if these messages were of a positive nature and fed the consciousness with pictures of light, then surely they cannot do any harm...but, I now realize that they are designed to keep us in check by limiting our conscioussness and keeping us in suspence...when in reality we must do this ourselves...

Food for thought.... and blessings to you all

viking

etm567
1st September 2011, 14:18
Well, I've lost two posts now. I'm going to go do a better one in Word, maybe, and copy it in. But I have to get my two cents in: I don't buy Casper (sorry, Patrick, I can't do that), I believe he is primarily disinformation.

As for Obama, I am unsure. I believe he is/was essentially a good guy, but I'm not sure he hasn't been gotten too somehow by the forces of darkness. I know that they were certainly trying, and also believe that he was being protected. That he needed protection demonstrates to me that he was in danger. So he may have been forced to do a lot of things he wouldn't otherwise do, and it may be that he knows this is all going to come to an end. Or, they may have gotten to him.

As for Salusa, he is great. All channeled messages are not equal. Salusa is one of the good ones. I don't know about Ashtar, as I am not really familiar with him. I also read and appreciate Matthew. Salusa and Matthew are not really into selling anything.

I stopped reading Casper years ago. If you want to spare yourself some grief, I recommend you think about doing that.

This was intended to be a reply to the OP. I've lost three posts already, so it may be that I'm not doing this right.

Namaste,
etm

Eric J (Viking)
1st September 2011, 14:32
Hello etm

Please do some research ... just a quick search on Obama ... needless to say this is just a small snippet...

If you could please tell one thing he has done to help this planet worlwide?? I'm all ears>>>>>>>>

Why Obama is bad for America
Obama-Rama ::: Reasons Why A Barack Obama Presidency is Bad For This Country
Thanks to Gawfer for the following video that will shock and amaze you about Barack Obama. . .

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

Barack Obama’s rise to fame is a mystery. He is an unknown, inexperienced junior senator with no accomplishments. There is no content to his speeches. He preaches change for the sake of change, but fails to explain in full how that change will be brought about.

Here is what we do know about Barack Obama.

He claims to be against going to war in Iraq from the beginning. Perhaps he would have voted against it in 2002, had he been there to make a vote. But, in reality, his history of being against the war is hardly a staunch opposition as he claims; and is rather a more nuanced and cautious position on the war than the full-bore opposition.

He has repeatedly told America that as president he will end the war, leaving us to believe he will conduct an immediate withdrawal of all troops, leaving Iraq bare and unprotected, an action that even Joe Lieberman claims would create a more dangerous world, and create a safe haven for terrorists. Question: Mr. Obama, if we pull out of Iraq, what do you think will happen after that? Utopia?

Recently, Barack Obama has been urging us to negotiate with the terrorists, to sit down and have a heart to heart talk with the Islamic Jihad and the nations that sponsor such terrorism.

In a rational world with a rational enemy, Mr. Obama’s recommendation would be a solid one. Of course it is better to try to talk things out with someone before committing to a bloody battle or war. We tell our kids to talk before fighting. We talked to the Soviets. We talked to China. Of course, when the left uses those examples, they fail to recognize that it wasn’t presidential visits with the Soviet Union that brought down the Berlin Wall. The Soviet Union collapsed because President Ronald Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union with a military buildup. And we didn’t decide to talk to the Chinese because we feared them. We talked with the Chinese because we wanted to drive a wedge between them and the Soviet Union.

Besides, Islam is not an ideology of rationality. They have committed to eradicating Israel, and destroying The West.

In his inexperience, Barack Obama has not thought through this issue. By his statements on foreign policy he is showing America how new to this he really is. And folks, inexperience like this is the last thing we need in the White House when it comes to foreign policy during a time of war with an enemy like none we have ever faced before.

A premature pull-out of Iraq would essentially be handing over Iraq to the Islamic Jihad so that the region could be a base of operations for terrorist activity, as well as providing additional funding for their ambitions of world domination by way of Iraq’s oil riches. A withdrawal from Iraq would also send the message that America is unwilling to complete its commitments, and that when faced with the adversity of a ruthless enemy, we are weak and are willing to turn-tail and run.

But the reasons for not withdrawing from the region prematurely goes deeper than that. One must enter the mind of the Islamic Jihadists to understand the mentality of who we are dealing with, and why withdrawal, or negotiations with an enemy that brings nothing to the table except the will to defeat us, would be disastrous.

I believe that Islam is an inherently violent religion, but that there is a large number of Muslims who are unaware of Muhammad’s evil actions and his call to violence. Islamic clerics are loath to teach their people about their faith’s dark deeds. Islam has made itself an enemy to all that does not adhere to its rules, and only understands violence as a means of dealing with its enemy. Only strength will be successful against the Islamic threat, and concessions, negotiations, and the withdrawal of forces is seen as a weakness by the Jihadists. And signs of weakness are answered with aggressive action.

Answer me this. After Israel pulled out of Gaza, how long did it take before Hamas proclaimed victory, and then began lobbing rockets over the border at Israel?

Barack Obama has also indicated that he plans to cut investments in “unproven missile defense systems.”

That’s brilliant. The missile defense system, for one, is not unproven – in fact, our technology along those lines was crucial in bringing down a crippled satellite recently. Besides, if you are so determined to rid the world of nuclear weapons, why would you discontinue a program that would essentially make long-range missiles obsolete?

He also wishes to slow the development of future combat systems.

Uh, Mr. Obama, how do you wish this nation to defend itself? With sticks and stones? Believe it or not, talking doesn’t work with irrational tyrants. Just ask Neville Chamberlain.

Unilateral disarmament does not work, either, Barack. If we disarm, the enemy must do the same as well. If they don’t, and we do, they will perceive themselves as stronger, and attack. That, Mr. Obama, is how tyrants in the real world play the game.

Obama supports the gruesome partial-birth abortion. Partial Birth Abortion is killing a child in the womb that is far enough along in pregnancy to survive outside the womb. Any abortion, in my opinion, is murder, but “late term abortion” is especially horrid.

I am taking Obama’s word that he is not Muslim. However, Barack Obama was raised around the Muslim culture, and one’s life experiences shape who you are. Therefore, though Barack Hussein Obama may not be Muslim, because of his upbringing, he will undoubtedly be sympathetic to Islam. And as I stated earlier, Islam is a religion rooted in violence and hate dreamed up by a murderous pedophile named Muhammed. The jihadists have a very real goal of converting us to their false religion, or destroying us in the process, and any sympathy to this murderous enemy is foolish, and irresponsible. I wonder, though, considering all of the Muslims in Obama’s life, how the Islamic Jihadists view Obama. Do they see him as a fellow Muslim? Or an apostate?

Understand, I realize that not all of the citizens of these Islamic Dictatorships are the problem. In fact, the population of Iran is very pro-American (residual from the popularity of the Shah, and his pro-American attitude), and Christianity is the fastest growing religion in that country.

When we entered World War II we did not go to war against the German People, but against Nazism and Fascism. Now, we are at war with Islamism, a fascist tyranny spreading across the globe, and Barack Obama’s weakness regarding Foreign Policy (lack of experience, talking to the irrational) would place us in great jeopardy.

That’s not even counting his liberal viewpoints of Government Control over the citizens, a Health Care program similar to Europe and Canada’s Universal Health Programs (think about it: do you really want the same government that runs DMV to run your health insurance programs?). If the current health insurance system is so bad, then why would government wish to keep the same model, but change the payer of that system over to the same government who didn’t get the postal service running in New Orleans until 3 months after Hurricane Katrina, while Federal Express was delivering to the area in a week, and UPS in three weeks? (source: Winning the Future by Newt Gingrich)

Of course this is a man that is a member of the Democrat Party, the same party that has decided Income Taxes Are Voluntary, even though you are forced to pay them (Reid idiocy):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg&eurl=http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/

The Government Should Seize Control of our Oil Companies as Hugo Chavez has:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb8LTXss1Os&eurl=http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/

Our Troops are Cold Blooded Killers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4w0gYqJN9U&eurl=http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/

and is content with emboldening the enemy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hutpzgou5HE&eurl=http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/

Barack Obama is not even willing to take McCain up on his offer of the two of them going to Iraq to see what’s going on first hand. Amazing, isn’t it? Obama wants to talk to the enemy before he’s willing to talk to any Republican, or go and see for himself how Iraq is going.

1. Obama believes unilateral disarmament will achieve a nuclear-free world

The Obama administration may dream of a day when the world is free of nuclear weapons, but its lofty vision bears no relation to the realities of the modern world. Even the president of France believes that President Obama needs to live in the real world, not a virtual one, which is a rather damning indictment of US leadership. There is not a shred of evidence to suggest that Washington’s decision to cut its nuclear arsenal will encourage the likes of Iran and North Korea to disarm, and history has shown that a unilateral policy of disarmament will not prompt tyrannical regimes to change their behaviour.

2. Obama thinks evil regimes can be negotiated with

The naïve appeasement of practically every odious tyranny on the face of the earth has been a central hallmark of Barack Obama’s foreign policy. From extending the hand of friendship to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez, to turning a blind eye to horrific human rights abuses in Iran, Sudan, Zimbabwe and Burma, the Obama administration has made the art of appeasement into an art form under the guise of “smart power”. It is a morally bankrupt approach to foreign policy, epitomised by the words of Obama’s special envoy to Sudan, retired Air Force Major General J. Scott Gration, who declared:
“We’ve got to think about giving out cookies. Kids, countries — they react to gold stars, smiley faces, handshakes, agreements, talk, engagement.”

3. Obama doesn’t believe America is fighting a global war

Within weeks of taking office, the Obama administration dropped the phrase “Global War on Terror” in favour of “Overseas Contingency Operation”, and has gone to great lengths since then to emphasise that the United States is not engaged in a world wide war against Islamist terrorists who seek the destruction of America. As Vice President Joe Biden put it at last year’s Munich Security Conference, the US was involved in “a shared struggle against extremism” and a fight against “a small number of violent extremists (who) are beyond the call of reason”. Can you imagine Winston Churchill or Franklin D. Roosevelt declaring in 1943 that World War Two was a mere “struggle” against a small band of fascist extremists? Al-Qaeda killed over 3,000 Americans on 9/11, and their sole aim is the destruction of the West and the establishment of an Islamist caliphate. If that’s not a declaration of war I don’t know what is.

4. Obama believes increasing spending and raising taxes leads to prosperity

While even the Germans are balking at spending more taxpayers’ money to stimulate the economy or bail out failing members of the Eurozone, the Obama administration seems determined to build up ever greater levels of government debt, with vastly expanded entitlement programmes and government spending. At the same time, Paul Volcker, its chief economic adviser, is dangling the prospect of additional European-style taxes to pay for it all, the surest way to kill economic growth and stifle job creation. As the recent success of countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand attest, economic growth and prosperity is directly linked to limited government intervention, low taxation, and above all, economic freedom.

5. Obama thinks government-run health care is good for America

In the face of overwhelming public opposition, Barack Obama’s health care reform legislation represents the biggest expansion of government power in over 70 years, and is a major step towards a government-run health care system. It is a hugely naïve and risky social experiment in a nation whose success has always been driven by the principle of individual freedom. As I noted before, what we have just witnessed is a massive slap in the face for limited government and the principle of individual responsibility. Its net result will be the erosion of freedom in America, and a further undermining of the country’s economic competitiveness. This may be a political victory for the president and his supporters in Congress, but it is in reality a defeat for America as a great power, and another Obama-led step towards US decline.

6. Obama doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism

President Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t think that American exceptionalism is any different to the “exceptionalism” of other countries. He also believes that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” Not only is this a staggeringly naïve position to adopt as the leader of the world’s dominant superpower, but it is also an astonishing declaration that the United States is no better than any other nation, and has no right to project its values onto other countries – which is exactly what the US successfully did in Germany and Japan in 1945, Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. It is both a striking abdication of world leadership as well as an egalitarian vision of the world, and one that significantly undermines American global power.

7. Obama believes alliances don’t matter

No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to America’s enemies. Great Britain and Israel in particular have borne the brunt of Barack Obama’s disdain, with the leaders of both countries humiliated during visits to the White House. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring America’s “standing” in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washington’s closest friends.

8. Obama trusts Russia

A central element of President Obama’s nuclear deal with Moscow is the naive belief that Russia can be trusted as a partner of the United States, and that the treaty does not impose restrictions on America’s ability to deploy missile defences. The Russians in contrast have made it abundantly clear that there is a “legally binding linkage between strategic offensive and strategic defensive weapons.” In other words they expect to have a veto over a US missile defense system. The Obama administration has already bowed to Moscow’s demands to scrap US plans for third site missile defences in eastern and central Europe, and will no doubt surrender again when Moscow makes further demands. At the same time, there is no sign that Russia will support significantly stronger sanctions against Iran. In effect, Washington has gained nothing at all from its “reset” strategy towards Medvedev and Putin, but merely looks like a soft touch in the eyes of the Kremlin.

9. Obama believes the UN is indispensable

President Obama’s speech before the United Nations General Assembly last September has to rank as the most embarrassing so far of his presidency, cheered to the rafters by an audience that traditionally hates what America stands for. As I wrote at the time, this was a staggeringly naïve speech by President Obama, with Woodstock-style utterances like “I will not waver in my pursuit of peace” or “the interests of peoples and nations are shared.” All that was missing was a conga of hippies dancing through the aisles with a rousing rendition of “Kumbaya”. It was a speech fitting for a president who believes the United Nations is “indispensable” to the United States, and who thinks the UN Human Rights Commission is a force for good. In reality, the UN’s elites dedicate much of their efforts at undermining American power, persecuting Israel, wasting taxpayers’ money, and shielding human rights violators.

10. Obama believes a federal Europe is good for America

The Obama administration has gone to considerable lengths to back the development of a European Union defence identity as well as a European Union foreign policy, both of which will weaken the NATO alliance as well as the broader transatlantic alliance. This is the first US administration to actively back the rise of a federal Europe, and whose key players on European issues actually believe a united Europe is good for the United States. It is an extraordinarily naïve approach which will eventually bite Washington in the back. Even the spectacularly embarrassing appointments of both Herman Van Rompuy and Baroness Ashton as President and High Representative for the European Union have not succeeded in dimming the enthusiasm of the Obama team for the European project.

viking

Snowbird
1st September 2011, 19:48
What Darla says is true. We are leaving the 3D construct and are currently and presently entering into the 4D construct. We are in the process of leaving duality as we enter into the state of oneness and openness.

Where this has begun, it has only begun, and will not complete for sometime into the future. It may be one decade or three decades or longer, depending upon the decisions that we make as a global society and the choices of leaders that we make into the not too distant future. I think that we will always have leaders in one form or another. In the meantime, we still have laws and a U.S. Constitution. I realize that these are hanging by threads, but they still exist and can be made strong once again....minus rogue presidents.

Obama is really no better or worse than any other presidents that we have experienced in many decades. There are few if any who have ever represented the people of this country or any country. They represent and support financial concerns. This will change, but not for some time. The massive changes and restructures that are imminent will be based upon the decisions of those world citizens whose choices reflect an entirely different construct. Obama has absolutely no foundation. It is almost as if he stepped into this world from the ethers. There is nothing whatever concrete about Obama. He has no papers. He has no country. Very few people know him from his past. His history is flagrantly suspect. And that's only for starters.

I don't trust SaLuSa. I don't trust what is behind SaLuSa. But I do on occasion read SaLuSa, just as I read many other types of messages and will continue to do so.

Buck
1st September 2011, 20:42
Great to hear Darla,
I agree and I think you have expressed in a much more eloquent way than I could how complex this is and how easy it is to jump to conclusions that are not relevant and in any way useful anymore. And Viking, I do hear your sincere concern and your puzzlement over how and why people are not reacting to this situation. However, your perspective also comes bundled with a lot of noise, some call it baggage, of what appears to be scraps and pieces of disinfo and fear based beliefs and projections, all of which are muddying your clarity for me. When you talk about the dangers of communism, or marxism, or the inherent violent nature of Islam, you are driving off into the weeds. I can tell you, from a place of sincere respect, it sounds and feels like you are struggling with fear, with elitism and ego and fundamental misunderstandings about the true nature of our collective potential. Just one example of many jumps to mind. Back in a previous life (when I was a card carrying NRA neo- con before the term had been even coined) exploring the extremes of contrast in a fear based paradigm, a paramilitary scarcity worldview that had me polishing up on my marksmanship and researching apocalyptic end times scenarios, I 'happened' to meet a Turkish man, who 'happened to become' my teacher for that next decade. It was he who introduced me to Sufism. When you go to Konya (and I hope you do!), sit in meditation with Rumi. Ask him what he thinks of Islam. And then, if you can, find your way to the dervishes, sit with them in prayer, feel the love and the power of their intention that has been at work these last 900 years or so, and maybe then you will have a different appreciation of some of your statements. I think your sincerity and commitment is to evolve, and you don't need much encouragement to look again at some of these declarations you are making.

Darla speaks of it, and so does Snowbird, that the reality you are interpreting may have another, far more profound and complex meaning. Darla's story about being kicked out of her house and into heaven. You do know that old Chinese story, good luck bad luck, right? It's the story about the very poor family who were blessed with a son, a boy who grew up strong and healthy, and was able to take over the family planting when his father was too infirm. He was a blessing to them all. Until one fateful day, tragedy struck. The boy had a fall, and was trampled by the water buffalo. His leg broken badly, and even though he lived, he was crippled, unable to work and therefore feed the family. They were cast out of their home, the family became beggars. The old man raged at the heavens, cursing the gods for this misfortune. Not long after this, a great war swept up the entire country, and the army marched into town, forcing every single young man and boy into service. All the men who were too old and infirm were passed over, and because of his bad leg, the boy was also passed over. And so it came to pass that this great war was a heavy toll on all of the country, and when it was over, not one of the village conscripts returned home alive.

Good luck Bad luck, who can tell.

Eric J (Viking)
1st September 2011, 21:16
Thanks Buck for your response, although I think you have missed the core message of my opinion with Darlas post...no worries though...marxism/Islam/communism/fear/elitism...my posts are easy to understand Buck...dont dig to deep, or try to find a hidden meaning... I am a simple man...

And thanks for your advise but I'll stick to the road I'm travelling on...Its a fine road and I am very comfortable with my choice.

And by the way I fear no one or anything...

Good luck.

viking

onawah
1st September 2011, 21:48
Viking wrote:
"Whether Obama is aware of it or not, I have not been able to puzzle this out yet with my wee brain, perhaps he is doing our country and the world a big favor by the corruption, chaos and pure evil he is spreading to the point that the Dark and Dirty are now at each other's throats and will soon destroy each other. And in the process,they may actually wake up the people to the impending hell. We can only hope. The question is, does he actually know that he is doing us a favor by following such blatantly stupid behavior or is he being used by God to fulfill a purpose by methodically destroying the toxic governing and banking structures that are now beginning to crumble."

One channeler who has given some perspectives on Obama's modus operandi is Suzy Ward of Messages from Matthew at
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm
There is a large archive there for anyone who would like to research past messages.
I have been reading this site for quite a few years and have found the information to be very useful in giving me a different and useful perspective from which to view current affairs.
From what I surmise (these are my own words), Obama was quite unable, as indeed anyone elected to the office of President would have been, to halt the momentum of military/corporate takeover that began well before his predecessor's 8 year term of office.
His life and the lives of his loved ones were threatened, and he was given to know exactly what he would and would not be permitted to do.
His response was a kind of political Aikido, taking the course of least resistance, not to empower the enemy, but to use their own power to defeat them.
And yes, in this way, those in power would more quickly and carelessly reveal their dark intentions, so the public would see where they intended to take us.
His philosophy is to keep his friends close, and his enemies closer, which is part of that "Aikido".
He continues to hold a positive space in his heart for the welfare of the planet, and takes whatever actions he can that will benefit others.
It was asked if just one positive thing could be named that Obama has done.
The financial stimulus that he backed in the beginning of his term to ordinary citizens was a godsend to many, myself included.

Here is another:
http://www.naturalnews.com/033483_Guatemalan_prisoners_medical_experiments.html
Investigation panel concludes U.S. government conspired with doctors to commit murderous medical experiments in Guatemala
Thursday, September 01, 2011
by Mike Adams
"U.S. government medical researchers, including those from the National Institute of Health (NIH), engaged in heinous crimes through secret medical experiments on Guatemalan medical experiments, concluded an investigative report commissioned by President Obama. The report concluded that:

• The U.S. government knowingly funded and deliberately engaged in criminal medical experiments against Guatemalan prisoners from 1946 - 1948, and that the people engaged in these crimes were then promoted to high levels of influence in the medical community.

• At least 5,500 people were drafted into the experiments, including children, women and the mentally ill. The number deliberately infected with sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs) exceeded 1,300 (that we know of).

• U.S. doctors and medical researchers knowingly and deliberately violated all the fundamental medical ethics including "do no harm."

• The victims of this criminal, government-run pharmaceutical experiment were mentally ill prisoners who were deliberate infected with STDs just to see what would happen.

• The victims were "not treated like human beings" but rather like laboratory animals and were deprived of basic human dignity in these heinous medical crimes.

• The purpose of the medical experiment was to test the effectiveness of penicillin for the pharmaceutical companies so they could sell the drug at high profit while claiming it had been "scientifically and clinically tested" to prevent the contraction of STDs."
etc.

There are many who think that if Ron Paul were voted in in the next election, he be a kind of "miracle worker" and would turn everything around post haste.
Although there is much about Paul's politics that I admire, I think he would face pretty much the same kind of brute, enforced control that Obama has.
Although we have made some progress in the last few years, IMHO, and so hopefully it would not be quite as brutal or have quite so much force behind it.
Paul is an older man, almost in his 80s, so I doubt that he could stand as much of the kind of strain that Obama has withstood.
Personally, I hope that Obama is re-elected; I think that, if anyone can, he will be able to bring about more reforms in his second term, as The Powers That Were structure continues to crumble.