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kathymarie
30th August 2011, 11:18
Here is a new comprehensive statement from Dutchsinse regarding Elenin, Nibiru, New Madrid fault, NWO, HAARP, etc. These are his opinions but he does make good sense on several issues. He believes these opinions will disappoint many people. Personally, I hope he's correct.

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The Truth Is In There
30th August 2011, 12:09
people like dutchsinse should get familiar with prophecies instead of trying to debunk the theories of others. the end date is very well known, calleman predicted it more than a decade ago along with the recession 2008, the uprising of the people in 2011 and more, all of which proves that he's right, and revelation 12.1 also gives, via a planetary alignment, a date for the beginning of the 7 years tribulation that is within a month of the end date of the mayan calendar. the hopi described the time clearly when they talked about the blue and red kachinas which also appear right at this time and they said that we would have "7 years to change our ways" which coincides exactly with the 7 years tribulation. how many more coincidences does it take for people to wake up?

Hervé
30th August 2011, 12:20
Finally!

Someone sticking to horse's sense!

PHARAOH
30th August 2011, 12:27
As i have stated on numerous posts, as they have everyone scrambling through pornagra-fear... those in power continue to amass thier power, wealth and control over humanity on a global scale. They are currently taking over the middle east as we, "the domesticated herd", stand by and do "nothing"!!! All we do is focus on energy belts floating in space that are suppose to change our awareness and perceptions. Focus on impending disasters that don't come to pass. Focus on Aliens that are on thier way to save us from ourselves, we just cant see them because they are cloaked. Focus on meditating to turn ourselves into space ships to get out of dodge when the **** hits the fan. Folks, wake up!!! The real fighters of the new world order are currently fighting in the middle east. They are the only ones fighting to keep the nwo out of thier lives and countries. We here in the states and europe have come to embrace our servitude and will fight to defend it. We will cheer the murderers and welcome them back as heros as they enslave the middle east. We stand up and swear alligence to the beast and call it patriotism. We register our children at birth and call it citizenship. We stand by and do nothing!!! We are to fight to free ourselves and no one dares for fear of losing thier job, or home. People will still fly in airplanes and subject themselves to illegal searchs because they won't stand up. We send our children to schools to be indoctrinated with lies and more lies. We have them watch worthless tv programming and wonder why they have turned against us. We sign up for contracts and accounts allowing corporations to share our information with affilliates, state and federal goverments under the privacy disclosure agreement. We constantly comply with any and everything in order to maintain thier control over us because after all, I don't want to stick out as the only one whom won't comply. What cowards they have made of us and what cowards we are so proud to be. I am truely ashamed to of have been born during these days and times for we know not what freedom and liberty truly is and what it takes to protect them for the benefit of humanity. Just ask yourself, when was the last time I took a stand??? Then reflect on all you have fallen for. :unsure:

kathymarie
30th August 2011, 12:31
I truly appreciate your skepticism and while I believe there is coming change that will be considered cataclysmic in one sense or another I don't see that Dutchsinse is trying to debunk anything...these are his opinions at this particular point in time. I've spent the better part of my life as a Bible scholar, teaching, writing, etc. While my opinions on the veracity of Christianity and the Bible have changed since that time, the Bible's own standards for a true prophet are quite explicit...and that is to be correct 100% of the time. Throughout history situations at a given point in time seem to fulfill Bible prophecy. Time will tell if we are indeed living in the "last days". We must remember, too, that an "end date" is also a "beginning date".
people like dutchsinse should get familiar with prophecies instead of trying to debunk the theories of others. the end date is very well known, calleman predicted it more than a decade ago along with the recession 2008, the uprising of the people in 2011 and more, all of which proves that he's right, and revelation 12.1 also gives, via a planetary alignment, a date for the beginning of the 7 years tribulation that is within a month of the end date of the mayan calendar. the hopi described the time clearly when they talked about the blue and red kachinas which also appear right at this time and they said that we would have "7 years to change our ways" which coincides exactly with the 7 years tribulation. how many more coincidences does it take for people to wake up?

Amysenthia
30th August 2011, 15:24
I wonder if he still feels this way after the recent attack on his friend and his accident?? You were a skeptic about about HAARP at one time too.

Wishing Dutchsinse the best and thank him for his efforts.

Jake
30th August 2011, 15:40
I truly do appreciate his efforts to promote the truth, as he understands it. The state of California is a large shelf with ocean underneath,,, we have submarine bases in IDAHO!!! (no ocean in Idaho :)) That shelf goes underneath the US a loooooong way... Not sure where he is getting his facts about CA. It is NOT solid earth under most of CA. He talks about being responsible for the truth as you understand it. I reserve the right to reserve judgement.

spiritguide
30th August 2011, 15:52
I think Pharaoh pointed in the right direction for observation.... LOOK WITHIN !

Peace!

onawah
30th August 2011, 16:13
It has frequently been said and by many thinking people, that prophecies are designed to help us see what the negative possibilities are in the future so that we can change them to positive ones. Dutchinsense is doing his best to help change our future to a more positive one, and he deserves our thanks both for that and for his positive, upbeat outlook. I believe what the ETs have been telling us is that they can help us, but their help is commensurate with what steps we take to ensure a better future for ourselves. This is just good sense.

Nyce555
30th August 2011, 17:05
I think this was a great video. I have to agree with him. Too many people are throwing out dates left and right. Everytime I hear a date, I immediately am turned away. I think we should use our gut instincts when it comes to these things. I think most of us feel that something is changing and we are living in interesting times, but not everthing is a conspiracy. Some things just happen because that is the way it was meant to be. Plus like he said, if something major was going to happen...pole shift, asteroid, etc.....99% of us would not live to tell about it anyway. So we should live for today and hope for a better future for tomorrow.

kathymarie
30th August 2011, 17:44
As a subscriber to Dutchsinse's videos on YouTube I thought it important to make this original posting this morning....as a subscriber to eceti as well I would like to add this statement James Gilliland issued via email regarding this video..

"We have been staunch supports of Dutchsinse passing on his posts yet this last post sounds as if he is afraid for his life and is duckng out. There are several things are missleading in his conclusions concerning earth changes. The earth is bulging at the equator approxamately 41 kilometers. A partial pole shift would cause contenients to rise and fall. A large inbound object could easily do the trick and something is purturbing the earth, the sun and other planets in the system. i agree no one knows when and I have been working hard to nail down a date from off world sources. All I have been given is to prepare, be finished by the tenth for major changes and be home by the 17th. I thnk from here on out things are going to get intense concerning social, economic and physical earth changes."

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm just about overwhelmed by the information over-load we're getting from all sides. Looks like we each have to find the truth for ourselves.

gooty64
30th August 2011, 19:13
I have to agree with Dutch. findings regarding Earth changes and catastrophe's. Although the viewpoint does not consider the full spectrum of "shift" theories.
I am more inclined to put my energy towards the consciousness shift, spiritual shift or the global civilization "upheaval" already beginning.
To me, the worst case scenario is the $dollar collapse and chaos after that.
We are already living in a NIGHTMARE and are slaves to the rulers of the world. Our freedoms are a token, a trickle, a phantom etc.
I would suggest that nearly everyone on this forum-like myself- is desperate for "upheaval" so we can get out of this NIGHTMARE.
Americans are still clinging to their ever-so-fragile "quality of life" and "standard of living". Until the Boogey man is on their doorsteps or they are running out of food and water they won't change. Seriously, I live near Red Wing, Minnesota 50 mile from Minneapolis and the people and community are so dense (Bush patriotic) it makes my skin crawl. It would take a catastrophe to wake them up and then they would crumble with fear.

Rozzy
30th August 2011, 19:25
Dutch is powering down and back peddling, likely for the safety of family, friends and himself, TPTB can be pretty persuasive.

Taurean
30th August 2011, 21:00
Couldn't help thinking of Charlie Veitch while listening to this.

Has he been got at ?

noprophet
30th August 2011, 23:48
Has he been got at ?
Crossed my mind too. Would you blame him?

They made their point.

Taurean
31st August 2011, 12:15
James Gilliland just posted this ;-


We have been staunch supports of Dutchsinse passing on his posts yet this last post sounds as if he is afraid for his life and is duckng out. There are several things are missleading in his conclusions concerning earth changes. The earth is bulging at the equator approxamately 41 kilometers. A partial pole shift would cause contenients to rise and fall. A large inbound object could easily do the trick and something is purturbing the earth, the sun and other planets in the system. i agree no one knows when and I have been working hard to nail down a date from off world sources. All I have been given is to prepare, be finished by the tenth for major changes and be home by the 17th. I thnk from here on out things are going to get intense concerning social, economic and physical earth changes.

Watching from Cyprus
31st August 2011, 12:59
To me his voice sounds very un-secure, like maybe he had a visitor .....

Carmody
31st August 2011, 13:42
The intimidation comes the moment someone gains any sort of following that can be construed as being any form of alternative thinking that takes the mass of people in any direction other than the desired direction.

It does not matter if the person is right or wrong, or mostly right and a little wrong or all wrong.

Those types of people attacked..and their presentation of potential logic paths ....and thus potential to be followed by any group, is curtailed, when it is found to be contrary to the given direction that those who feel they are 'in power' wish to move toward.

the only real thing that you know, is that anyone who speaks out in any way that results in any thinking that moves toward any movement or grouping of minds that MIGHT result in PHYSICAL movement toward a SOLUTION that would PHYSICALLY change things for the better.....those groups or individuals are targeted.

Those individuals are targeted in a way that coincides with the insiders impression of immediate threat to their (insider) machinations.

But the threats are ALWAYS delivered though clandestine or hidden means, this, regarding true origins and original shape of intent that is connected to the one attacked.

This is done so that there is no real path to an obvious and physical enemy that can be solidified into a single state, for the purposes of reflection and thus internal debate and thus understanding.

When it comes to things you actually DO know, this is just about the whole sum of it.

The rest of it, is just an emotional driven message run through the herd of monkeys..who are trying to get clear messages from the edge of the herd..which we hear or feel is under attack. The whole monkey group is nervous and can feel the pressure from within the herd and thus is greased and ready for motion of some sort, primed for motion of some sort.

And those who have attacked the structure of the herd in order to grease it into a position of some sort of motion, shift or whatever, will not tolerate any interference that does not go in the direction that they want it to go.

Target identification, by the individual and thus potentially the group... for the quelling of your inner fears, which are searching desperately for target(origin of fear identification) identification... is the MAIN thrust that is coming from your bodily origins, it is coloring every thought.

The forum is also used as a method of tracing movements or motions and how they may cascade through society at large, if utilized. We have a broad enough group for that to be done.

It is also a battleground for the differing groups and for the individuals who are trying to align themselves into a position that has some basis in truth.

The basic reality is that we are mostly monkeys who are highly reactive, tend to herd ourselves, tend to have thoughts based in emotional desires and patterns, and when under duress, which we are right now, our reasoning faculties devolve into being emotionally or base brain driven. Even if the capacity to speak and utilize multi-syllabic words may remain, the fundamental driving that component is that of a frightened and confused monkey.

We are yet given ANOTHER 'death date', among the few thousand that have come before.



Realizing that this above post of mine is the only thing you really know to be true (if you spend the few seconds thinking about it), is very important, when it comes to figuring out the source of your internal issue.

It really is an internal one, and internal issue, as no one else can stabilize and bring reason to your response to input. It has to be you...

Maia Gabrial
31st August 2011, 15:06
I don't remember where I read this, but it said that the Hawaiian Islands were rising. So, maybe all these earthquakes are part of the Earth's expansion....Maybe our planet is going to get bigger....

Tenzin
31st August 2011, 17:20
He did say that at this point, the video reflects his opinion, but may change as events present themselves otherwise. He is still open to the possibilities of what the illuminati is planning because he is aware of the Illuminati card games and other evidences that have been piling up.

We have only our human intellect to rely on for any counter measures for future events if we are not spiritually attuned.

There have been too many disinfo out there that has made him want to simply shut off and not listen to everything about the warnings pertaining to what is to happen, especially predictions with specific dates as it closely relates to his personal experiences of people doggedly sticking to previous false alarms.

The Elites scored a point there.

But with a good heart he has for all the effort he is making, he might stumble upon something to provide us ample warning soon. Who knows? :)

Bill Ryan
31st August 2011, 20:36
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Hello, All:

I'm (more or less) with Dutchsinse here. Here's what he summarized on his YouTube text. My comments are added.


Comet Elenin = NODefinitely no. It's only a small comet, which may even already have broken up.


Nibiru/planet X/tyche/nemesis = NOVery real. It's a brown dwarf star, accompanied by a lot of debris, but won't appear till a few years from now.


New Madrid catastrophic earthquake = NO (not for a few years or more)Agreed. No time soon.


Midwest Sinking = NOCorrect. No.


California falling into the ocean = NONo - but there might be a major earthquake (and/or tsunami) sometime in the next year or two.


Canary Islands = NOHe's referring to the Cumbre Vieja event. Very unlikely.


Nuclear War = NO TIME SOON I agree.


George W. Bush nwo takeover (first prediction by most in the truth movement back in early 2000's) = NO didn't happen
Barack H. Obama nwo takeover (current prediction by truthers) = NO not going to happenIt's a frog-in-the-saucepan step-by-stealthy-step incremental process.


FEMA camps = NO (not for what the conspiracy says they are for)I'm not so sure about that. My info suggests they're pretty real.


Plastic coffins = NO (not for what the conspiracy says they are for)I reserve judgment. I've never been convinced they were human coffins.


Biological outbreak = NO TIME SOONThey may try to ramp up the bird flu scare again in the next couple of years.


dirty bomb = possibility Yes - as a false flag event.


chemical attack = possibilityYes - ditto.


financial collapse = possibilityReally pretty likely.


HAARP and weather mod = trueYes.


weather mod = trueYes.


NATURAL earthquake uptick = true (most likely due to Post Glacial rebound effect -- thanks to Scott from believers underground for promoting this theory!Yes - but also because the solar system may be entering a region of energized space (I'm aware this is a very vague term) -- of some kind.

http://www.youtube.com/believersunderground

I would also add: the risk of solar CME-influenced power blackouts and electrical failures (or worse) is pretty real - maybe in 2013 or so.


Don't believe catastrophe dates, or unproved conspiracy talk... if they don't provide the links... then they don't want you to THINK.Could not agree more. :)

All best wishes, Bill

cloud9
31st August 2011, 20:40
Hi Bill,
I'd like to ask how would you or anybody else know that it might be an earthqueake in California in the next year or two? As far as I know, nobody can predict earthquakes. Do you have info on somebody or perhaps an agency planning on this?

Bill Ryan
31st August 2011, 20:49
Hi Bill,
I'd like to ask how would you or anybody else know that it might be an earthquake in California in the next year or two? As far as I know, nobody can predict earthquakes. Do you have info on somebody or perhaps an agency planning on this?

No inside info. Just circumstantial factors - which include my intuition (i.e. my own very gradually increasing personal uneasy feeling).... and an awareness that "the big one" is overdue.

ThePythonicCow
31st August 2011, 20:55
I'm (more or less) with Dutchsinse here.
Yes.

My concern with Dutchsinse would be in what he does not say. He leaves out the advanced science and technology known to the "black ops" folks, other than blaming stuff on a rather conventional interpretation of HAARP. The understanding of such people as Carmody, Wade Frazier and Paul LaViiolette is not reflected in Dutchsinse's works. He also leaves out (doesn't really pretend to cover, to be fair) the larger "conspiracy" shenanigans that have been going on behind the scenes with world power and finances for centuries now.

Hughe
1st September 2011, 05:41
I'm (more or less) with Dutchsinse here.
Yes.

My concern with Dutchsinse would be in what he does not say. He leaves out the advanced science and technology known to the "black ops" folks, other than blaming stuff on a rather conventional interpretation of HAARP. The understanding of such people as Carmody, Wade Frazier and Paul LaViiolette is not reflected in Dutchsinse's works. He also leaves out (doesn't really pretend to cover, to be fair) the larger "conspiracy" shenanigans that have been going on behind the scenes with world power and finances for centuries now.

Those truth seekers are shallow and very limitation. A fine example is Alex Jones. He exposes a lot of dirty work and becomes the icon of alternative media per se.

The real problem they have they don't or can't give clear guide or solution for general public. Why? Because they are being stuck in their frame of mind. Why Alex Jones never seriously talked about "Free Energy technologies"? The hidden history of suppression of free energy technologies over 100 years.

Why modern cities are so vulnerable against natural disasters? Centralized grid system. It's that simple. Absence of power stations means civilization goes back to ancient times. That's fact. All of them talks about freedom and better society. Having independence of energy and food provides real freedom to individual, collective level. Humans can't protect natural disasters yet. But we can change the structure of society for mobility and preserving of civilization. No more reset button please this time. Humans have free energy technologies already that will lift us to next level of existence. Aliens already had it - believe or not.

They often recommend prepare emergency plan. What about they introduce a real free energy device to general public? A small size power generator that produces 500W to 1kW without external energy input. Plus mobile water purification system that anybody can make or find. That's something that people should start to consider for permanent solution.

Few months of food and water? What's next?