Born into a secret Bloodline Order - How I got introduced to the world of Occultism

[Edward Alexander]

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Maggador and darkbreed]



Since a very young little kid I have been involved with the occult, esoteric, magic, symbolism, secret orders & Societies etc, mainly because I was born straight into it, having a father who was a Grandmaster of a smaller Order in my home country Norway.

This Order was a family-based order going from kin to kin as far as leadership goes. It goes back to the 1100's in Switzerland, and have remained a fairly unknown secret order away from any form of the general public, media, history and so on. The order itself was established 13th October of 1307 , interestingly the same date the Knight Templars officially were dismantled. This was however not a coincidence, as the Order was indeed founded by ex-Knight Templars who made sure it would have its foundation date the very same date of the fall of Knight Templars so that symbolically they truly never got shut down at all but indeed continued their work the very same day under a new name, in a completely different locations, and under the uttermost strict secrecy as to their existence.

However, this Order did not represent the Knights Templars, as Knights Templars were one of several influencing groups that merged and collaborated with the foundation and structure and systems of practice of this new Order. Some of these other's that took part were the early Rosicrucians, some of those earliest ones later known as Freemasons, Christian Mystics and a few individuals with background in other orders and practices, from alchemy to various forms of magic. Some of these members remained active only within this newly established Order, while a few others also took part in the construction of the groups they came from, to create that which became the Rosicrucian Order and the Freemason Order, yet these other Orders that were emerging did not have any affiliation or even knowledge about The Order itself, or that some of their own members were also members in such an order.

Thus the Order maintained the highest level of secrecy, and only a few handfuls of people were at any time member during the first period of its existence. Members had been extremely thoroughly screened and monitored for long periods of time before they actually were considered candidates for membership. Then another period of close follow-up and inspection of the ones deemed possible candidates followed, where everything they did, said or spent their time with was carefully reported to the inner circle of the Order. Once they felt this process was properly achieved the final thing to do was select a few of the ones considered most worthy candidates from the group of different people that had been considered for the order. This selection process was done by the higher ranked members together with the Grandmaster of the order, and other highly trusted initiates of the Inner Circle, and they would discuss the pro's and con's for each candidate left after this selection process and make a vote on whether a certain candidate should be qualified for membership or not.

As soon as they had their qualified candidates ready that they felt would be of a good contribution to the Order, time would be spent to indirectly suggest and question them about certain interests in the esoteric and occult arts, their practice and knowledge, in a very subtle and friendly way to not arise suspicion since they were at this moment still not accepted as members but held out in the dark knowing nothing of the Order or that they had even been through such a long period of studies by the Order. Several other tests and experiments had been carried out on these candidates during their "review process", such as testing loyalty, their ability to keep secrets, how they would act and be towards other members, friends, and general public, test their morals & ethics, and other relevant things the Order felt was necessary to guarantee the most noble and honorable of trustworthy men to qualify as members in the final stage.

With all this done and concluded, the ones that had yielded the best overall results through all tests, would be whispered in the ears about a possible secret order looking for men like themselves, explaining as well some of the basics of the Order's purpose, practices and structure. Then their reactions would be carefully observed in regards of what they had been told now, though still none of them knowing exactly what order was being whispered about, or who were in it, or who was leading it.

This was the real point in the process where finally the Order would reveal itself to them, assuming they had all stood the very last test as well which most whom had gotten this far usually did. Now they would be invited to spend some time with a couple of the other Brothers, to get to know each other, learn some of the basics of the Order, its history, its work and purpose. Shortly after that, they would finally get to actually visit the temple of the Order itself, and at last receive the first Initiation into the Brotherhood and swear the strict Oaths which that consisted of. Then they slowly moved up in ranks and degrees as they persuaded their new dedication to the Order and its Work, participating in the different rituals, ceremonies, mystical and esoteric teachings and other practices.

As an Order it has maintained itself more or less unknown to the public, and very few have had the privilege of being a member through all these hundreds of years it has existed since it was founded. In fact, it rarely had more than a couple hundred members in total alive at the same time. But, its purpose was not to keep the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work away from the public, but rather the opposite, its work was to spread such to those people around them, in the gentlest ways and through philosophical discussions and participation in various arts and influencing different other orders and societies of the time.

Even though one can say that the Order itself is an off-spring of various other orders, groups and societies, as well as specific individuals of the time, it gained and maintained its very own sophisticated way of keeping itself both secret but at the same time spreading its work by influencing the society of those days and all the way up to modern day by what can be called a "seeding process" where certain elements have been revealed to the public in ways that does not trace back to the Order itself. Through its members that were in turn part of other early groups, societies and orders, elements of the more important aspects of the work was being gently injected into the practices and systems of such other groups and in turn becoming a solid part of those groups practices, some of these were groups such as the Freemasons and Rosicrucians as well as others as time went on through the centuries.

With that the Order functioned as sort of core, the inner Base, of various teachings, practices and activities which were spread into the other societies & orders, which made the Order itself fairly well hidden, in the shadows of all, hardly anyone knowing about it, yet it managed to have great influence upon society.

Time still was moving, and new generations came forth, other orders formed, and some were closed down - the Order managed to make sure to get some of the greatest men of both the newly forming orders as well as from those closing down, thus always building upon and improving their own work and teachings, while at the same time maintaining the real core and tradition of itself, including its function and purpose towards the future.

This Order is a direct bloodline order, as far as the leadership goes, meaning that the Grandmaster is always the older living son of the previous Grandmaster at his resignment, or the closest kin if no son was had - such as the son of the brother or sister of a previous Grandmaster. This has been the case and still is the case, and will continue to be the case. The Grandmaster is however free to select another most trustworthy high ranking member as the next Grandmaster in the case there is no suitable blood related kin, and thus initiate such a member into the highest degree to maintain the Order and preserve its presence. So far, this has not been needed, and would only be considered if any of the closest kin of the Grandmaster would not be determined suitable to continue the Order.

Since I grew up with the last living Grandmaster, my own father, I was basically born into these matters, and early on I was trained and taught that one day it was me who would be taking over the leadership and make sure of the survival of the order, its teachings, and most importantly its secrecy and limited amount of very few selected members whom all got their own tasks and work to carry out by the Order as individuals where certain aspects of the Order was taught to others by these various people, its origin was never revelead to others than the highest initiates and closest members.

After the death of my father, the Order went into a dormant state, a "sleeping period", where I was being taken care of by other high initiates and the family involved with preserving the work and teachings of the order, until I would be ready to carry on the work myself and rebuild the Order and once again activate its work and spread its teachings. This period lasted about 15 years. The Order has been under my leadership for a few years now, and I am now working on regrouping old members and relatives of such, as well as finding new members due to the time that has gone with very little activity by the Order - something which was caused by the previous Grandmaster, my father, dying young and unexpectedly in an accident where I myself, the oldest son, had barely just turned 12 years old.

And thus ending a long story, this is how I got introduced to Freemasonry as well as other secret orders & societies, having been involved of sorts since birth, even though I was not introduced directly to the Freemason Order until I was around 25 years old, and some other orders a bit earlier such as the Rosicrucian Order at around age 20, and various other Orders at different periods of time.

For me, the occult, esoteric, magick, rituals, ceremonies, symbolism, mysticism, and so on have always been a part of my life, and is completely natural and common for me. Never having had an experience of life without it, it is a completely normal part of daily life, and it will always remain that way as well.

Now, I am the one with sons, which will be introduced to the mysteries and the Order when at an appropriate age, as I myself was introduced to it all by my father way back then. This has now been active as an Order, by direct family blood line throughout its existence from the very beginning, dating back almost 1000 years. I will do my part for the next 1000.

In Light & Darkness,
G:M. Edward Alexander

[Unified Serenity]

Does your order line up with free masonry? Does your order have a belief in God, Annunaki type beings, Elite rulers who need to run the world and people need to be controlled? Do you align with the illuminati, club of rome or other politically active groups? Do you attend the Bilderburger meetings? I am not being a smart aleck with my questions. I am keeping an open mind regarding your post, but I do have my reservations as afterall, you just broke a 1000 year old secret order of which you are now supposed to be the head. I would imagine there are oaths and pledges of may these traitorous lips burn to ash should I reveal any of the secrets sort of thing, and thus if you are a traitor to your order why should we trust you?

So much intrigue and bs going on, but let's hear what you all teach otherwise why come here? I could care a less if you were the soon to be king of England as I am not impressed with title but only quality of spirit and soul towards others and the world. So, no pussy footing around, let us have it, cause I really can't deal with another thread like the Charles 500 million question and answer thread.

In love and peace,

Serenity

[Amysenthia]

Your thread is interesting and alluring, but what's the point? Surely if things have been kept so secret for so long should you be discussing them in such a way? Are you going to reveal some inner secrets from being the chosen one? Would love to hear more about where you are than just how you got there. Please enlighten us!!!

[jsb_swampfox]

Looks like the "secret" is out by your own admission.....point being?

[spiritguide]

Norway is the place of many significant esotheric beginnings..

[Maia Gabrial]

So, why tell us about your secret Order? Are you hinting that yours is ALSO responsible for the mess this world is in? Tell us, what good has your Order done for humanity besides control and manipulate it?
What makes your Order better than the others? Why the secrecy?

[Edward Alexander]

My Order has influenced Freemasonry, and vice versa - as some of the original first members were of the early Freemasons, and in turn that means some of the useful teachings from there may have been implented into certain practices, and in turn our members implemented parts of our systems into their teachings, as well as into many other orders & societies since this Order I am in dates back before most of these other "popular" orders. We have no connection though, we are an independent order, founded by EX- Templars along with a couple early Freemasons and Rosicrucians and some other individuals.

Yes, be believe in God, we are practicing true christian mysticism - Annunaki type beings, well not in that sense, but non-physical entities that are here yes - I don't quite understand your question about the Elite, if you are asking if we support that the answer is clearly NO, we work AGAINST those tyrants, whom are fallen from dignity and outcasts of the orders they've been part of, they do not keep to the sacred oaths they have sworn, nor do they act in noble and honorable ways as we swore on our oath and is the foundation of our orders, and they stole all the secret knowledge obtained from being members to use it for own selfish ends instead of using it to help and assist the world and its people.

We have connections with Illuminati, but not in any sinister ways. No political groups etc. Never been on Bilderberger groups, never intend to - these are part of the above mentioned tyrants that we are against.

And no, i just let you know about the existence of our Order. I did not even name it, nor give any details where its founded, who are involved, and certainly not any of he secret practices, rituals, ceremonies, teachings and activities. However - we are in changing times, so I have decided to make parts of the Order more public, for the sake of benefiting others as well more directly. Remember, also, that I am the functional Grand Master , thus I am the Voice and Action of the Order and it is all up to me how I want to do things. There's no one above me to do anything they may "dislike", and I can not be a traitor either since I RUN the Order and make the rules . We are in crucial times, and I have decided its time to break the almost 1000 years of secret silence and let people in a bit on what's going on in this world. I'm not one of the bad guys, I'm one of the good ones, and we are strongly against all the negativity taking place due to other individuals abusing the occult systems of magic and other practices they've obtained from orders like ours and our friends.

So, you can ask me anything, and I'll determine if I feel I can answer it . I will do my best.

[Lazlo]

@ G.M.E.A.

What do you have to gain by posting this? 804 years of working behind the scenes and now it is time to come into the light? Assuming that you are who you say you are, is it time to influence the new societies and orders of the digital age?

"... its purpose was not to keep the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work away from the public, but rather the opposite, its work was to spread such to those people around them, in the gentlest ways and through philosophical discussions and participation in various arts and influencing different other orders and societies of the time. "

The vegans post is a nice way of discussing the sanctity of all life, but starting the conversation with an insult, IE: "ignorant murderers and hypocrites" doesn't seem very enlightened.

If this is how you define "gentlest ways", do us all a favor and take it someplace else.

[Edward Alexander]

So, why tell us about your secret Order? Are you hinting that yours is ALSO responsible for the mess this world is in? Tell us, what good has your Order done for humanity besides control and manipulate it?
What makes your Order better than the others? Why the secrecy?

No, to the contrary, mine is working against those negative forces, those individuals whom have stolen the teachings from orders like mine and others to go directly against what these orders stand for, breaking the oaths they've sworn, just for their own selfish agendas to use these occult and magical practices for power, control and enslavement, instead of what they're really for, liberty, freedom and understanding.

My Order has through centuries, almost 1000 years, taken part of doing our part to decrease the negative influences in the world, and bring more of the positive. We have been infiltrating those orders that are of a selfish and sinister purpose. But do note, it is not really the Orders themselves that are evil, sinister, destructive or abusive. There is a small group, a very small group indeed, of men that has stolen the knowledge they've obtained from their membership in these other orders, and turned it to their own selfish agendas and goals, to enslave, entrap, control and manipulate people, and gain more power and influence. These do NOT represent any of these Orders or what these Orders stand for. They are outcasts, they are NOT supported by us, or the majority of other people that are members of these orders, but rather our enemy that we are working on getting shut down.

MY Order has never done anything of a negative nature towards others, it is completely benevolent and here to assist and help the world and its population. We do our work in secret silence, true, but that's again for very specific and important reasons. We have contributed with a lot of the true understanding in the world, been helping the world develop certain social aspects such as various arts, science, spiritual practices, and so on. And we also help you buy taking the war for you against the tyrants and blasphemous men that got the world and its people in an iron grip. We have done so for as long as we've been in existence, this is a long war, and very complex, and there still will be much time left.

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Your thread is interesting and alluring, but what's the point? Surely if things have been kept so secret for so long should you be discussing them in such a way? Are you going to reveal some inner secrets from being the chosen one? Would love to hear more about where you are than just how you got there. Please enlighten us!!!

The Point was to give a general historical overview of Secret Orders and how they originate back to a common source of influence, that hardly anyone know of, that being us and our Order. It was also to give an overview over how such an order is structured, give some more background information about myself, and an introduction to this specific secret order and related orders - You can ask the questions back based upon the information I have given.

[Ultima Thule]

I can see the idea or ideal behind an order - I have trouble in reconciling what my parents are about, what were my grandparents about, let alone to know what is it that has made my family "tick". I don´t even know if my grand-grand-father was a farmer or a fisherman or what, in his soul? Do I have to learn or rediscover something that he for example knew then? Do we have to do that every generation? I definitely can understand how there is a need for an order to keep things from not being forgotten - and am willing to entertain the idea that they all might not be bad - the orders, I mean. Thanks Edward.

UT

[Edward Alexander]

@ G.M.E.A.

What do you have to gain by posting this? 804 years of working behind the scenes and now it is time to come into the light? Assuming that you are who you say you are, is it time to influence the new societies and orders of the digital age?

"... its purpose was not to keep the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work away from the public, but rather the opposite, its work was to spread such to those people around them, in the gentlest ways and through philosophical discussions and participation in various arts and influencing different other orders and societies of the time. "

The vegans post is a nice way of discussing the sanctity of all life, but starting the conversation with an insult, IE: "ignorant murderers and hypocrites" doesn't seem very enlightened.

If this is how you define "gentlest ways", do us all a favor and take it someplace else.

I think the purpose of this post is unfolding itself as we speak, don't you? But to summarize it: We have been working behind the scenes for as long as we've been existing as an Order. Now we feel it is time to let us be known to the general public, so they can know some about what's been going on in history, and what still is ongoing, what we are here to do, and what we can do to help you and everyone else from the negative influences of those betrayers whom have left our orders, stolen our teachings, and instead of using it for the noble and honorable good purposes they are supposed, they use it for the opposite and for their own selfish agendas. We are here to let you know that there are some good ones out there, not every secret order is of Evil. In fact, most of them are NOT - the majority of secret orders are run by very nice men, having members that are very kind and caring, helpful and friendly, with only the best of intentions towards everyone. The group of tyrants that have the power in this world, and most people unfortunately connects with the different orders, making it look like it is the orders themselves that are of a selfish and evil nature, these people are just a small group of renegades, betrayers, thiefs - whom have stolen the secret teachings and broken their oaths and use the magic and practices towards their own agenda and lust for power and control and enslavement of Mankind.

That is NOT a representation of the Orders themselves, only that small group of people that are NOT in any way supported by the rest of us, or by the Orders themselves, and we are many that are doing the Great Work for positive influences and get more harmony and balance restored, decrease the presence of these betrayal tyrants and do our job as good as we can to restore peace and noble deeds, being honorable, truthful, always helpful to our fellow men and women, show kindness and a good heart, and so on. That is what we are.

Fairly off topic the whole Vegan post, but since you pull it up here, yes the title did get too arrogant and aggressive compared to my intentions. But I will go discuss more over in that thread itself a bit later as I got more to say there.

[Maia Gabrial]

I know how it feels to put a thread/post out that gets challenged, EA. You're in the hot seat now...!
Why should we believe that your intentions are good when you have connections to the illuminati? They're the biggest threat to humanity.
So, you believe in advanced aliens as God? I don't understand about the nonentities. Are these like the ones that have been summoned by other secret societies for the purpose of power?

[Edward Alexander]

I definitely can understand how there is a need for an order to keep things not forgotten - and am willing to entertain the idea that they all might not be bad - the orders, I mean. Thanks Edward.

UT

Yes, in fact the majority of all secret orders and societies are GOOD and BENEVOLENT and are here for YOU, if you only knew all the work we're doing for you behind the scenes constantly.. There are very specific and important reasons why we are secret, and keep our practices and teachings away from the public. The best example is to take a look at the small group of people controlling the world - these were part of such Orders, but instead of doing as they should and had sworn to do when joining the orders, they did the opposite and stole the teachings and used the knowledge to abuse, deceive, lie, gain power, execute control, create slavery and use it all for their own selfish ends and goals without the slightest respect for anyone at all. These are NOT representatives of the Orders, they are deserters , betrayers, and they are the ones we are opposed to and working against, trying to decrease their influence upon the world and its people, and restore some more harmony and balance. We are here to do noble deeds, to be honorable, to always help and assist our fellow men and women, to assist society develop, bring people more truth and spirituality and understanding, and so much more.

[Lazlo]

Time for a story:

Two Anthropologists encountered a tribe in the Amazon that had never before had contact with the outside world, and got into an intense discussion of how they should proceed.

Anthropologist one argued that they should work to set up a reservation so that the tribe could continue to live in their traditional ways without succumbing to the evil influences of the modern world.

Anthropologist two argued that they should bring in medications and modern healthcare so that they could prevent malaria and reduce infant mortality.

Who was right? Neither, because they both assumed that they were superior to the tribespeople and knew what was best for them.

And that is why I have a problem with any self described elite or keeper of secret knowledge, they assume that they are superior to the rest of humanity.

I can't help but notice Mr. Alexander, that you have received many thanks for your posts here on Avalon, but you have not seen one post in nearly 8 months that you found helpful or deserving of acknowledgement.

[learninglight]

In light and darkness : as above so below

I welcome you as i would any one joining Avalon and i am interested in what you have to say, as i think many would be on here

Can you tell about some of the rituals, ceremonies, tell everything and let us know what it is that is being kept from us, as you say you do what you do for the good of the people so lets have it plz

much love

[Edward Alexander]

I know how it feels to put a thread/post out that gets challenged, EA. You're in the hot seat now...!
Why should we believe that your intentions are good when you have connections to the illuminati? They're the biggest threat to humanity.
So, you believe in advanced aliens as God? I don't understand about the nonentities. Are these like the ones that have been summoned by other secret societies for the purpose of power?
I'm not in a hot seat at all, I'm perfectly fine. After all, I know my reason for posting this and revealing this information now. You are the ones that don't. But I'm trying to explain the reason to you, so you can understand and see why it is necessary. Now, why should you believe my intentions are good? Just like that, well you shouldn't! You should read what I have to say, take it into consideration, and then see if it sounds like something coming from a "good guy" or some "evil reptilian guy".

As far as Illuminati goes, you must understand that the structure and hierarchy of Illuminati ITSELF is split and in internal conflict, there ARE good guys in Illuminati whom are working on changing the seasons, just as we do, my Order, and other Orders. Several ex-members of Illuminati itself has come forth the last few years, because they've had enough, and want to help people and let you know what is going on in stead of sitting in the corner bench doing nothing while their evil masters destroys the world.

No advanced aliens are "God". They are just that, advanced Aliens. God is the All, the Mind that engulfs all of Existence, and everything exists within the Mind of God.

For entities, there are many different types, used for many different reasons. Some for good, some for bad.

[The One]

I have seen this same posting in Godlike productions from someone from argentina is this you

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godlikeproductions.com%2Fforum1%2Fmessage1617248%2Fpg1&ei=HwJdTt7FKY6dOqjKwO8C&usg=AFQjCNGV2nRepM3tICmSg1n_VcGQh0-H8A

[Solphilos]

Time for a story:

Two Anthropologists encountered a tribe in the Amazon that had never before had contact with the outside world, and got into an intense discussion of how they should proceed.

Anthropologist one argued that they should work to set up a reservation so that the tribe could continue to live in their traditional ways without succumbing to the evil influences of the modern world.

Anthropologist two argued that they should bring in medications and modern healthcare so that they could prevent malaria and reduce infant mortality.

Who was right? Neither, because they both assumed that they were superior to the tribespeople and knew what was best for them.

And that is why I have a problem with any self described elite or keeper of secret knowledge, they assume that they are superior to the rest of humanity.

I can't help but notice Mr. Alexander, that you have received many thanks for your posts here on Avalon, but you have not seen one post in nearly 8 months that you found helpful or deserving of acknowledgement.

It is not an assumption, it is a fact. It is those without knowledge and understanding that assume that all people are equal, and this is simply not the case. As hard as it may be for some to hear, it is the truth.
Elitism is a natural product of diversity. Some are driven towards the light and others wish to remain in the darkness of ignorance, and it is their right to do so.
As an example; In a chicken hatchery large quantities of eggs are allowed to develop together. Some eggs hatch early, and these are usually the superior chickens with better health, vigor and even intelligence. These chicks are quickly removed from the area lest they run rampant and destroy the development of the other eggs.

I should amend this post for the sake of clarity, that inferior and superior are not used in the sense of being better or greater, but rather higher and lower. For instance, I am a superior musician, but an inferior computer technician. Some have achieved a greater wisdom than others, and to those lacking the same knowledge, the actions of those above cannot be interpreted logically, and this leads to many misunderstandings and false interpretations of intent.

[Edward Alexander]

And that is why I have a problem with any self described elite or keeper of secret knowledge, they assume that they are superior to the rest of humanity.

I can't help but notice Mr. Alexander, that you have received many thanks for your posts here on Avalon, but you have not seen one post in nearly 8 months that you found helpful or deserving of acknowledgement.

I do not think or feel that I'm superior to the rest of humanity. Not sure where you got that idea from. I'm sharing certain things I know, and have first-hand direct experience with, on topics and activities that the vast majority of people have not. Thats basically all I do - and I do that for YOU. To help you realize certain things, come to deeper understanding, get some insights, ponder some, think some, contemplate some, see the truths. I've come here to do something for you, nothing for me to gain on it.

And yes for the thanks function, completely irrelevant thing to mention in the first place, but since you did: If people want to thanks me, that's their free choice. I'm not asking them to thank me. I dont care if they thank me. Why do you care so much about that? And the fact of the matter is that I dont read posts, thus there's no basis for me to thank anyone. I'm note here to read other peoples threads, I came here to share some information I have myself that others may benefit from.

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I have seen this same posting in Godlike productions from someone from argentina is this you

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godlikeproductions.com%2Fforum1%2Fmessage1617248%2Fpg1&ei=HwJdTt7FKY6dOqjKwO8C&usg=AFQjCNGV2nRepM3tICmSg1n_VcGQh0-H8A

Yes, thats me, I'm well-known for the name Maggador around. Cheers

[Star1111]

I'm feeling a lot of Ego at play here, so, thank you but as they say on Dragon's Den " I'm out".
PEACE & LOVE TO YOU

[Amysenthia]

Your history lesson about your order is appreciated. My question is....? Will you share any current info about what your order may be doing in the world at the present to help with the Illuminati agenda. Is there a way to help your order with the work. You spoke much about how your order has remained secret, but for what purpose? Is it to continue to work covertly against the current evil. What knowledge do you sparingly dole out to the unknowning?

Thanks for answering previous questions.

[Eva2]

Interesting thread but am wary of these hierarchal men-only groups - where is the female representation?

[Maia Gabrial]

You asked the question on my mind, Jill! I couldn't decide if I should ask it or not....At least now there are 2 of us asking it.
Thanks!
EA,
How do women fit into your Order, besides propagating the bloodline?

[Amysenthia]

Can't stay on much longer Edward. Are you still answering questions?

[Peace of Mind]

Occults, Orders, Groups…whatever you want to call them are only good as their supports. I believe all people strive to make their lives better and enjoyable. It’s just too bad that division seems to be the preferred choice in doing so. Hopefully, the devotees of today’s secret societies know exactly what they’re giving their energy to. If they ever want world peace and prosperity to go along with it…. it is most important that they know if they will be catalyst of the great rise or proprietors of our failures. I have never known a secret to be good for anyone other then the one/s in the know...

From my observations and experiences, secret societies have only looked out for themselves…that’s probably why the world is in such disarray, the blatant greed and constant manipulations will eventually backfire…as always. Maybe you will be the acception. These times are primed for righteous change and the birth of new legacies. Thinking optimistically, the future’s His-story books will be filled with benevolent audacious characters inspiring the young curious minds on how to carry on the torch of humanity. We all have choices while we are still here, life is too short, don't waste your time here causing pain to self and others. As for me...I'm not going to be here that long (nor any one) to be doing anything worth jeopardizing a happy eternal afterlife. That's one gamble I'm not willing to take....

Peace

[passiglight]

Hi Alexander i cannot say how pleased i am that you are developing your work here and now,,,,,,,,,,obviously you will be aware of the magnitude of your contribution here.......

If it has not allready been said,,,,may i say hello to you and what a privelidge and a pleasure it is to be reading about you.

welcome to avalon,,,,,,,,,,



i have rather a lot to ask of you i hope you don't mind,,,,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love,,,,,,,


Q, the star of David is the home planet of RA ? please could you confirm or deny this,,,,,,,

Germaine ??

i am of the understanding that Germaine founded the Rosicrucian order and that the knights of malta are the protectors of the rosicrusion order ? is this correct ?

Can you explain why the secret orders have built so many temples and structures which are on ley lines and energy lines and is this benevolent to the planet and it's occupants ?

Do you personally or your order , recognise isis , Ra , El and if you do would you mind elaborating on what they mean to you ??

Thank you sincerely for what you are doing,,,,,,,,,,,,you will as i know expect to be receiving some flak over your connections,, if and when rudeness occurs please be mindfull,,,, the majority have been abused by associations of your past and present, and please do not rise to negative,,,,,,,,,,

enjoy and have fun,,,,,,,,,

mi casa su casa

cosmic love




Do you refer to God as in the sense of Source,, whereby we are all part of the same energy that is our mativariate (exsistence)

[jsb_swampfox]

I definitely can understand how there is a need for an order to keep things not forgotten - and am willing to entertain the idea that they all might not be bad - the orders, I mean. Thanks Edward.

UT

Yes, in fact the majority of all secret orders and societies are GOOD and BENEVOLENT and are here for YOU, if you only knew all the work we're doing for you behind the scenes constantly.. There are very specific and important reasons why we are secret, and keep our practices and teachings away from the public. The best example is to take a look at the small group of people controlling the world - these were part of such Orders, but instead of doing as they should and had sworn to do when joining the orders, they did the opposite and stole the teachings and used the knowledge to abuse, deceive, lie, gain power, execute control, create slavery and use it all for their own selfish ends and goals without the slightest respect for anyone at all. These are NOT representatives of the Orders, they are deserters , betrayers, and they are the ones we are opposed to and working against, trying to decrease their influence upon the world and its people, and restore some more harmony and balance. We are here to do noble deeds, to be honorable, to always help and assist our fellow men and women, to assist society develop, bring people more truth and spirituality and understanding, and so much more.

I would like to know if the "majority" of secret orders and societies are good and benevolent, then why would you, "the majority" allow the minority to run a muck? Are you not as responsible for your own rogue members? I don't want to sound negative, I am impressed with your claims, but from the outside looking in....it is very foggy for me.

[Lazlo]

And that is why I have a problem with any self described elite or keeper of secret knowledge, they assume that they are superior to the rest of humanity.

I can't help but notice Mr. Alexander, that you have received many thanks for your posts here on Avalon, but you have not seen one post in nearly 8 months that you found helpful or deserving of acknowledgement.

I do not think or feel that I'm superior to the rest of humanity. Not sure where you got that idea from. I'm sharing certain things I know, and have first-hand direct experience with, on topics and activities that the vast majority of people have not. Thats basically all I do - and I do that for YOU. To help you realize certain things, come to deeper understanding, get some insights, ponder some, think some, contemplate some, see the truths. I've come here to do something for you, nothing for me to gain on it.

And yes for the thanks function, completely irrelevant thing to mention in the first place, but since you did: If people want to thanks me, that's their free choice. I'm not asking them to thank me. I dont care if they thank me. Why do you care so much about that? And the fact of the matter is that I dont read posts, thus there's no basis for me to thank anyone. I'm note here to read other peoples threads, I came here to share some information I have myself that others may benefit from.


Thank you for making my point exactly. ASSUMPTION OF SUPERIORITY. You feel that you have things of great worth to offer others, but that no one in this community has anything to offer that is of worth to you.

[passiglight]

and of course lets not forget the words of the great man Mr Bob Dean,,,,,,,,


Secrecy is corrosive to the soul

[seko]

Hello Edward Alexander, thanks for telling us your story.

what is the purpose of not sharing ritual knowledge or magic with people outside the occult orders, why keep it for yourselfs??

It seems that people wouldn;t or couldn't handle it, other wise why the secrets??

I guess as well that secret, is not the best idea because like you said, people broke their oaths and now use it for the wrong purpose.

Isn't is a time for change, like you suggest but for openness 100%??

Pleasure to have you here sharing info.

seko

[phillipbbg]

Interesting thread but am wary of these hierarchal men-only groups - where is the female representation?

There exist women only groups that go back much further historically speaking, there representation is a choice they can only make.... they are truly secret in many respects. Look for the rabbit holes and you will find the evidence.

[Rog]

Hello Edward, you're getting some elbows thrown your way but I hope to be more receptive.

From what you're relating I'm getting the idea that other than for more "mundane", health related things possibly you don't quite put the sum of your knowledge into practice. But instead, having the "cold, hard truth resting in your hands" you've taken the role of acting like a filter of authentic knowledge. This would have the effect of focusing our collective mind like the lens that it is. There is a zero-point solution/causation to our worldly troubles and it boils down to individuals choosing to spend their lives shaking their fists at others and shifting the blame to them rather than pressing the fact of their own ignorance upon themselves so that they may actually relieve their troubles.

It's this...Earthly predicament that both has left your order to practicing as it does and seen to the nature of this thread. An idea that gets posted here is that when presenting questions of our world to "the ignorants" that falls outside of their fearfully accepted worldview the reaction quickly turns sour and largely unproductive, if not counter-productive. This I assume, leveraged by the authenticity, quality, and magnitude of the knowledge you preserve is what has shaped the characteristics of the actions those of your order recognize they must take.

Another point or question I want to make is about the illuminati. I've looked through a whole lot of available information on this group myself and at the end of the day it's really just hearsay. Evidence aside, I have full respect for the human mind to operate as such, I need nothing more than my own respect for our mind's potential to believe in such groups. So that point aside my question is; Is the "Illuminati" as we know it really just more of an allegory to represent or be of reference to the actual existence of such human relationships rather than factual accounts of what it actually is?

Thank you for taking your time here. I hope you know you do have a patient audience, discerning, but patient,...but discerning. :)

[pamina]

AE -- can you give us a concrete example of something you believe you and your order have influenced for the better? Thanks...

[passiglight]

Further questions if you don't mind..........


Can you confirm that Atlantis exists in another dimension here on or near or above earth ?

Are you aware of the Racogzy bloodline ?

Are you aware of the House of Hesse and what does this mean spiritually to you ?


Are you aware of the AB bloodline and can you enlarge on the topic ?

What colour are your eyes ?

have you took advice or sought discussion as to your reasons for delivering your work here and now and if you did was this from an off world being or entitiy ?


Are you aware of comet elenin ?

do you have an opinion on whether comet elenin is a craft or IA craft from Magen David ?


Why do you refer to Source as God and why do you think the word God has been so readily applied to just about every ET 4/5 dimensional being with some catchy gadget that befuddles men at every level of consciousness ?

What does the energy we call LOVE mean to you ?

Cosmic love

[Ultima Thule]

By taking a quick look at your other posts and at pleiadiantalk, what I find is that your ideas about the trap goes somewhat in line what Drunvalo Melchizedek has sketched out to be the problem in our energetic system - he refers in his books to a 90 degree turn to be made in "ones head" to avoid the trap, so to speak. Does this ring any bell in you Edward?

I also found your writings about the comet elenin interesting in regards as to how closely it fits in with what Richard Hoagland has had to say - how the plan has been going on for a loooong time to smear the whole date of 911 in peoples minds. Some time ago I tried to track down how 911 ever happen to be chosen as the emergency dial.. Have you noticed how elenin has just recently manifested a tetrahedron-shaped dust cloud to underline its geometric nature, synchronizing well with Richards notions of the 19,5 degree message that he has found written all over elenin. Richard Hoaglans main agenda in relation to elenin has been to suggest the possibility in Arthur C. Clarkes words: something wonderful is coming.

What I found a little bugging, but interesting, was that in one post your opinion was that there is no meaning to life in earth other than slavery and entrapment and no lessons to be learned. I do tend to struggle against that idea, but can somewhat resonate with it, as I´ve been thinking in recent times that perhaps instead of me following a preset or guided path(a kind of god-guided plan) - or a prewritten storyline if you will - perhaps it is more important to realize that I am the author of my story and I can write it the way I feel fit. That might be a better way to escape a dungeon, would it not? On other occasions you seem to refer to karma(pointing at meaning and mission in life, I think), and suggest a book that is about soul agreements and "game plan". Not quite sure if I agree with you.. or actually I am not quite sure what is your stand on this matter? Are we or are we not reincarnated here to learn in your opinion? There is the obvious question: if we are trapped here in general with no reincarnative lessons or mission, how come you are on a mission? Either way, intriguing! Just trying to figure out where you are coming from..

Anyways Edward, a good read this thread and I am looking forward to what we all can make of it.

UT

[Jake]

Hello, GMEA! I, for one, am thrilled that you have come forward with your story/history, etc.. I have always wondered how many smaller secret orders are out there. You certainly have a responsibility to an amazing history. And I must commend you for your bravery. What I have been wondering is,, What kind of powerful secrets does your order hold with regards the awakening of humanity and universal consciousness? It is happening all around us. Obviously, a Grand Master of a secret order has come forward to bring light to the subject of secret societies. I resonate with your description of corrupt and/or mislead leaders of some of the oldest societies in existence, being to blame for the bulk of negativity surrounding secret societies. My fiance has a father two brothers and a grandfather with two brothers,, all 33 degree masons,, Sinclairs, no less. These are some of the best people I have known. Hard working, honest, loyal to their family.

You must have knowledge of MANY smaller orders like yours... Do you foresee a movement among the orders to come forward, so to speak?

[Alan]

Edward, are you open to the idea of being interviewed by Bill Ryan?

[Rog]

Thank you for making my point exactly. ASSUMPTION OF SUPERIORITY. You feel that you have things of great worth to offer others, but that no one in this community has anything to offer that is of worth to you.

I don't think that's the case at all. Most people upon coming here are doing so with either an unwritten/unspoken or written/spoken admission to ignorance. Even for those with awesome information to share cannot escape that they only think they know what they "know".

Think of it in terms of a frank-mannered, somewhat un-polite boss. They're your boss because they know more than you. Are you going to denigrate their character because by the authentic fact of what they know and you don't they spend less time hearing out your ideas than you would of theirs?

It's simple natural mechanics. Like the sun warming the planets and feeding their inhabitants. Try not to paint a ghoul face on someone you don't know because they happened to be born into a world we can't quite recognize.

His stated objective is to disperse authentic information as intelligently and widely as possible, don't allow yourself to be offended by the difference of his methods.

[Ria]

If you do not read other post hear, as you say, your not going to get the the measure of any of us, or who we are?
Oddly enough I would like to know a little at least, about the people I am talking to. I thank people for taking the trouble, making the effort.

[<8>]

So you are coming out now in the 11th hour.

Tell me what have your secret order done for good to the humans, the last 1000 years?
I hope you realise, if you had this Knowledge for a 1000 years. And never tried to enlightenment people outside your closed secret order doors. You are indirect guilty of how the world are to day.

I sugesst your secret order never tried to save the human race. I sugesst your secret order are trying to save there own soules for whats about to come.
I sugesst if you realy whant to do the right thing, you start to ask for forgiveness and then tell the truth.

I forgive you. (i dont think many will do)

P.s if you hold things back now and think you are more then others (like your secret order) its only you who are gonna pay for it in the end.

[Siberia9]

Well it seems that there are many here at Avalon that have connections to secret society's, royal bloodlines, and TPTB I've noticed. So anyway I have some questions for you, do you feel that the magic you use comes from very old ancient Egypt or somewhere else. Were you not taught when you were young that now would be the time when such things as this will be shown to the public? Does your Order use the Goetia to gain what you seek? Do you have a bloodline connection to royalty or world leaders? Do you believe that there is a pyramid system in place in this world and one in the next?

[Edward Alexander]

Your history lesson about your order is appreciated. My question is....? Will you share any current info about what your order may be doing in the world at the present to help with the Illuminati agenda. Is there a way to help your order with the work. You spoke much about how your order has remained secret, but for what purpose? Is it to continue to work covertly against the current evil. What knowledge do you sparingly dole out to the unknowning?

Thanks for answering previous questions.
We have been doing it all the time since the beginning, we're still doing it, and we will continue doing it.

So, what exactly is we do? For one we take certain action that will reduce negative energies, and increase positive, call it balancing the scale. We bring in more harmony, more truth on what this world is, who runs it, for what purpose, who you are, and what you are doing here, what you can do, and how to live your own life in the uttermost harmony and balance. The direct energy work we do from our own location in what you could call rituals, the informational parts we put out in a large amount of different media such as here on this forum, on websites, in videos, on other forums, in direct conversations, through groups we arrange for people to join and learn some truth and useful practices, we put some in music and even movies, so we scatter it all around. We also create shields , both personal for our own use, and greater constructs such as population shields and city shields, to keep unwanted negative energies out and only allow positive beneficial energies to come through. We assist people to adjust their inner energy, the frequencies, to a more healthy and beneficial one along with making their chakra energy flow freely and loosen up blockages, we teach people how they are being abused, mislead, deceived and taken advantage of - what techniques are used, how to stop it and protect oneself from such.

We do not need any help in the Order, but people need to help themselves, that's the most important thing. You need a relaxed and calm state of mind, that only see the positive and expects the best without even thinking about any of the negative. You should simply assume, await and demand to get things going good for yourself and everyone else. You can do meditations where you visualize everything in harmony, peace, balance, people being happy, joyful, content, calm, getting along with each other etc. Learn to handle and control the states of your mind and emotions. Be able to be calm and rational in any situation. Get yourself confident, secure, content and feeling great and happy. Be kind, honorable, noble, and a gentleman in your deeds and actions, both towards yourself and towards others. Keep a healthy clean and pure mind and thoughts, think the best of others and always wish them well, accept others as they are, respect everyone and everything around you, people, animals and plants, don't gossip or complain, accept things the way they are, dont worry about anything instead always be optimistic and expect the best outcome of any situation, and truly do it with honesty and your real will and intention - doesn't help to try force it and do things that are opposite of what you think.

If you can manage all of that, you're truly on a great way towards the ultimate freedom and power. Everything you have in your Mind will be reflected around you everywhere else you may be as well.

Practice some meditations, rituals, spiritual systems , get to know yourself better and transmute yourself to a higher state of pure being. It's too much to get into details about right now so this short and brief summary of things you can do to improve yourself, the world and those around will have to do for now. As far as practical exercises and activities goes I've already posted plenty such in different places, from my website to different forums, I recommend you take a look and see what you can find.

The reason our order has remained as secret as it has is due to several reasons. One is the obvious protection against those forces who would prefer to have us gone, another is to make sure to constantly keep the order infiltration free and only have the most highest trusted members among us, keep ourselves away from the masses and spotlight, make sure our teachings remains unaltered, original and true without any altering or tampering by unauthorized individuals, and to of course keep our very practices and activities themselves as secret as can be done.

People always ask me why we dont just let the techniques, practices and other activities available for everyone so anyone can benefit - the answer to that is due to its danger in untrained hands, as well as its great abuse potential, as seen with the "Elite" of the world whom have stolen the secret teachings to only benefit themselves and make things as worse as possible for the rest. Most people are not ready to participate in this kind of work, these systems , play out rituals and activities we hold and so on - it would have to take them years of preparations and studies to get anywhere near the right state of mind needed for such, and the understanding of how it all works.

As far as what knowledge I share, what I expose and things I reveal, you can easily look me and my material up, just go to google and type in: maggador

Which is my mostly used nickname to post articles and videos, or simply check my website www.PleiadianTalk.com which also got some.

Though for any direct and specific questions about anything related, I will be more than happy to explain and answer such.

[Edward Alexander]

EA,
How do women fit into your Order, besides propagating the bloodline?

We do have women in our Order, it is not an exclusively male brotherhood. Women are often very skilled and effective magicians / occultists. There's no discrimination against any sex in our Order and we like to have a balanced mix of both males and females. They are as the men's equal, and the same respect and dignity are shown towards the women as any man. They have the same rights and same chances to reach any degree the men can. With the exception of the 13th degree which is reserved for the Grand Master, and the Grand Master is always male unless there should be a really impossible case where all the closest Kin to the previous Grand Master are women. In such a case, the most close of kin of the women will be chosen, unless the previous Grand Master prefers to appoint one of the other highly trusted initiates as his next in line. These scenarios have never taken place though.

Some members are indeed husband and wife where both are highly active and trusted initiates of the Order.

[mountain_jim]

Appreciate the historic info and pointer to www.PleiadianTalk.com , where I am finding some worthwhile content to consider.

edit: plus a fair amount of apparently commercial content..

[Edward Alexander]

Q, the star of David is the home planet of RA ? please could you confirm or deny this,,,,,,,

i am of the understanding that Germaine founded the Rosicrucian order and that the knights of malta are the protectors of the rosicrusion order ? is this correct ?

Can you explain why the secret orders have built so many temples and structures which are on ley lines and energy lines and is this benevolent to the planet and it's occupants ?

Do you personally or your order , recognise isis , Ra , El and if you do would you mind elaborating on what they mean to you ??



No I have no reason to think RA is any actual physical being living somewhere in space. And entity yes, but in different realms of existence.

The Rosicrucian have had some influence by some Ascended Masters yes, personally I've heard most about Kuthumi in relation to the Rosicrucian Order. There are members of the Great White Brotherhood, which in turn is a higher Order in the astral realms. I have briefly worked some with Kuthumi myself and was invited to study in the Great White Brotherhood.

Temples and other structures are built upon such power spots / Ley lines for the same reason as why the ancients did it: Because it gives a much more direct and powerful energetical connection with All, which means very powerful and profound spiritual experiences and insights etc.

Isis, Ra and El are not something I have worked with. But yes, as spirit entities they do exist, and can be worked with, as is the case with most other mythological and religious figures.

Cheers

[Lazlo]

Thank you for making my point exactly. ASSUMPTION OF SUPERIORITY. You feel that you have things of great worth to offer others, but that no one in this community has anything to offer that is of worth to you.

I don't think that's the case at all. Most people upon coming here are doing so with either an unwritten/unspoken or written/spoken admission to ignorance. Even for those with awesome information to share cannot escape that they only think they know what they "know".

Think of it in terms of a frank-mannered, somewhat un-polite boss. They're your boss because they know more than you. Are you going to denigrate their character because by the authentic fact of what they know and you don't they spend less time hearing out your ideas than you would of theirs?

It's simple natural mechanics. Like the sun warming the planets and feeding their inhabitants. Try not to paint a ghoul face on someone you don't know because they happened to be born into a world we can't quite recognize.

His stated objective is to disperse authentic information as intelligently and widely as possible, don't allow yourself to be offended by the difference of his methods.

Rog,

I mean no offence here.

Your statement that someone is your boss because they know more than you is naive in the extreme. While this is sometime the case, the reality is often that they are the boss because they are better connected, are more ambitious, or simply more underhanded than others. Real scientific studies have proven out the old axiom that nice guys finish last.

Successful and effective business leaders know that they aren't the smartest ones, that it is through their ability to hire and manage people smarter than themselves that they are sucessful.

You are buying into the notion that G.M.E.A. is somehow automatically worthy of respect and deference because he claims to be the high poohbah of a secret society that has been witholding secrets from the world for 8 centuries because: "We can't handle the truth."

Sorry if you don't see this, but I find it offensive.

[Jayke]

13 degrees of initiation till grandmaster, I know number 13 was a symbol of power and harmony in the Pythagorean mystery schools (13 moon cycles a year, 12 zodiac signs plus our solar system etc)...what are your views on pythagoras and the greek mystery schools? Do they influence your lineage in any way.


For one we take certain action that will reduce negative energies, and increase positive, call it balancing the scale. We bring in more harmony, more truth on what this world is, who runs it, for what purpose, who you are, and what you are doing here, what you can do, and how to live your own life in the uttermost harmony and balance.

Sounds like you follow the same basic principles as taught in Zen buddishm with their tradition of "cultivating merit"...After balancing the scale or cultivating merit however you like to term it, how much importance does your order put on internal alchemy, the transmutation of elements in the body to transform it into a vehicle of light that can travel through time and space and break the karmic cycles of death and rebirth? do you have any other insights to share on the process of attaining that?

[Edward Alexander]

I would like to know if the "majority" of secret orders and societies are good and benevolent, then why would you, "the majority" allow the minority to run a muck? Are you not as responsible for your own rogue members? I don't want to sound negative, I am impressed with your claims, but from the outside looking in....it is very foggy for me.

The thing is that we are actually following our sworn oaths and the standards set forth in our Orders, unlike the "rogue members" whom dont give a damn and just do as they want as long as they get the power and control regardless of the cost. We do not use force, violence, or any negative actions towards anyone - we are noble, honorable, polite, kind, calm, serene, following a path of virtues of the highest and purest deeds, in action, in mind and in soul.

If we were to, "get rid" of these you refer to, we would be no better than them for doing so. We work in different ways, all our efforts are put into rituals, activities and practices that has as goal to inject more positive energy into the World, into the Unjust ones, into Every man and Woman, and all of the Earth and its creatures. We are balancing the uneven, restoring it back into place, planting the seeds of Harmony, and spreading truths and insights to the general public for them to understand more and thus get more free from the claws of the tyrants.

This may seem as a very ineffective and slow way to do things, but not from our perspective since we've already been here for thousands of years working in the same manner for the same goals, and we got the time and prefer to let it take some time and be done properly and in accordance with all laws of existence, instead of trying to do a quick sweep and break a large amount of laws that will come crashing back at us, in addition to breaking our own sworn oaths.

You, the people, can assist this process though, by changing to a state of mind that is positive, confident, content, happy, filled with pure good intentions directed by Will and Expectation of goodness and kindness being the major factor of energy on Earth. Once pure at mind, pure at heard, life around you turns pure in return as well, for you. It is important to learn to control anger, temper, negative thoughts of all kinds, emotions, etc - you need to transmute your mind to a tranquil relaxed and constantly happy and joyful state, where no worries are, only love, kindness, joy, positive thoughts, a pleasant feeling and knowing that everything is changing for the better, and so on. This can be done during meditations where you visualize and imagine all of this, and make the sensations and feelings grow as strong as possible within you and truly see the world the way you want it to be, and know and expect that it is just that way.

[Chuck]

Hello Edward Alexander

Thank you for sharing. No doubt you will understand the need for us to be discerning. Everyone here is well aware of the altered ego’s desire for attention, recognition, glorification, etc, etc. False information, disinformation, lies, deception etc unfortunately have been too common for us on this forum and in our daily lives. Though many here are truth seekers are also battle weary. Perhaps it is as it should be in the last days…

In any event, I welcome your admonition for self empowerment and your efforts to inspire greatness within. The elbowing you are experiencing here is part of the process of the “common folk” expressing sovereignty that is too long overdue.

I assure you, however, the moment any hint of undermining the masses, of subjugating us to more tyranny or deception, these and more will be returned to you a hundred times. For I am a member of the greatest of privileged societies called humanity and it is to that I pledge my ‘sword’ to protect and to serve.

If you can survive these initial barbs and show us love and compassion in the long run, you have my support as well as the support of all noble beings and spirits of antiquity.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Edward Alexander]

Thank you for making my point exactly. ASSUMPTION OF SUPERIORITY. You feel that you have things of great worth to offer others, but that no one in this community has anything to offer that is of worth to you.

Well you are certainly fascinated by that "thanks" function. As I said I dont read things on the forum, with the exception of replies to my posts to answer back. In fact I never even thought about this "thanks" button until you mentioned it, has not been the center of my attention. Now if you'd like to discuss something actually related to the topic instead of just raving on about the "thanks" function that cold be nice.

Cheers

[The One]

Well you are certainly fascinated by that "thanks" function. As I said I dont read things on the forum, with the exception of replies to my posts to answer back. In fact I never even thought about this "thanks" button until you mentioned it, has not been the center of my attention. Now if you'd like to discuss something actually related to the topic instead of just raving on about the "thanks" function that cold be nice

Maybe Edward what Lazlo is trying to say is that a thanks is a nice gesture for people replying to your posts (costs nothing) :cool:


Anyway no one is greater than any other Human being we are all one.

[Lazlo]

Thank you for making my point exactly. ASSUMPTION OF SUPERIORITY. You feel that you have things of great worth to offer others, but that no one in this community has anything to offer that is of worth to you.

Well you are certainly fascinated by that "thanks" function. As I said I dont read things on the forum, with the exception of replies to my posts to answer back. In fact I never even thought about this "thanks" button until you mentioned it, has not been the center of my attention. Now if you'd like to discuss something actually related to the topic instead of just raving on about the "thanks" function that cold be nice.

Cheers



OK. last post by me, and then I am out of this discussion, as I will send no more energy to anyone who claims to be a Master and Keeper of Secret Knowledge.

You have not been able to see the point of any of my posts: That you are just a man, and you presumably put your pants on one leg at a time.

I am a sovereign individual. I control my reality. I am a divine being.

I will not abase myself because you claim to be handing out morsels of knowledge to the unwashed masses. By acknowledging you as some sort of master, everyone here is transferring power and authority to you, and justifying your claims to be holding secret information that you can not reveal because we are unworthy and unable to comprehend.

I have experienced THE ALL. And there was no one like you, or any figure of authority between me and IT. You claim to be here to elighten us, as an advanced being, but do not deign to read posts or acknowledge that perhaps there is something for you to learn as well. It is arrogance, and symptomatic of every initiate. It does not matter that you speak of love and light, you are operating from the assumption that you are superior and are paying alms by teaching the little people. You just can't see it.

[Edward Alexander]

So that point aside my question is; Is the "Illuminati" as we know it really just more of an allegory to represent or be of reference to the actual existence of such human relationships rather than factual accounts of what it actually is?

Thank you for taking your time here. I hope you know you do have a patient audience, discerning, but patient,...but discerning. :)

Illuminati is a group of the highest level of the structure system of different orders. But here too there are many misconceptions, again it is not the "Illuminati" as its own order that is evil or ruthless, but a certain fraction of members that have been in the top pyramid of the Illuminati order, which means they've gained some very powerful and destructive understanding of certain forms of magic, which gives them great control over world down throughout all their branches enveloping Earth.

I myself can become an member of Illuminati when I reach high enough degrees within one of the Orders I'm active. There is a inner conflict within the Illuminati since there are those selfish power hungry control freaks that want to abuse and mislead people, which are the ones responsible for the bad rumors Illuminati, as well as other orders, have obtained.

Again one must remember that these smaller groups of outsiders / betrayers do not represent the Orders themselves, nor are they an example on what kind of people generally are found in these orders. The opposite is the truth here, the majority of Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Martinists, and other order members are very nice fine guys with excellent manners, respectful, kind, funny and happy. They're working for the true deeds, which is what we all swear our oaths on when joining such Orders, and that is to be men of inspiration for other men, polite, gentle, nice, helpful, calm, relaxed, positive and of good manners. That's how most members of these Orders are, not only taking care of themselves, but also each others and anyone else around them.

The Great Work we do in these orders are for the benefit of All mankind, not just for the members of a specific order. When you hear something negative about secret orders it is mostly because of the misconception people have where they think that the smaller group of tyrants represents the orders as a whole, which is far from the truth.

[Sierra]

Remember, also, that I am the functional Grand Master , thus I am the Voice and Action of the Order and it is all up to me how I want to do things. There's no one above me to do anything they may "dislike", and I can not be a traitor either since I RUN the Order and make the rules .

"All up to you." <bursting out laughing> <wiping tears from eyes> Oh my dear, you are so unclear on the concept of ascension.


People always ask me why we dont just let the techniques, practices and other activities available for everyone so anyone can benefit - the answer to that is due to its danger in untrained hands, as well as its great abuse potential, as seen with the "Elite" of the world whom have stolen the secret teachings to only benefit themselves and make things as worse as possible for the rest. Most people are not ready to participate in this kind of work, these systems , play out rituals and activities we hold and so on - it would have to take them years of preparations and studies to get anywhere near the right state of mind needed for such, and the understanding of how it all works.

Yea, He speaks and we the members are struck dumb and found spiritually incapable. Surely in the eyes of the wise it is best that the "Elite" of the world continue to practice the dark arts and we remain in ignorance don't you think sir? Sir? (Sorry, but your comment above deserves a little sarcasm in my book, yea my holy and powerful book that with a wave of My HP Wand in tandem with my fellow beloved mystical and secret practitioners of the Rosy Ass of Avalon shows the truth of all things) <snrt>.

I challenge you to be a little more forthcoming out of your experience, rather than your knowledge.

You know, for someone in the know, you do *know* you have told us nothing we don't know...

Sierra who gives thanks she can give thanks and gives thanks again she finds so many people worthy of thanks (nudge nudge wink wink... a hint for you dear heart towards clarity and the getting and giving of wisdom)

[Lisab]

Hi Edward I do have to say I've been using your guided meditation every night and I've been waking up feeling refreshed and HAPPY all day long. I wholeheartedly recommend it. I'd been feeling really flat for ages prior to using it.
What I'm trying to say no bad psychic attacks coming this way. Which I've experienced before - by he whose name shall not be mentioned and I'm not talking about Lord Voldermolt lol!!!

[The One]

Hi Edward I do have to say I've been using your guided meditation every night and I've been waking up feeling refreshed and HAPPY all day long. I wholeheartedly recommend it. I'd been feeling really flat for ages prior to using it.
What I'm trying to say no bad psychic attacks coming this way. Which I've experienced before - by he whose name shall not be mentioned and I'm not talking about Lord Voldermolt lol!!!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Alan]

Hi Edward I do have to say I've been using your guided meditation every night and I've been waking up feeling refreshed and HAPPY all day long. I wholeheartedly recommend it.

Where can I find this meditation?

[<8>]

Hi Edward I do have to say I've been using your guided meditation every night and I've been waking up feeling refreshed and HAPPY all day long. I wholeheartedly recommend it. I'd been feeling really flat for ages prior to using it.
What I'm trying to say no bad psychic attacks coming this way. Which I've experienced before - by he whose name shall not be mentioned and I'm not talking about Lord Voldermolt lol!!!

Maby you got what it takes to join the secret oder...LOLZ

[seko]

What I'm trying to say no bad psychic attacks coming this way. Which I've experienced before - by he whose name shall not be mentioned and I'm not talking about Lord Voldermolt lol!!!

Hi Lisab, would you mind explaining the meaning of your phrase??

[Lisab]

Hi Alamojo you can just go to Edwards profile and look under his started threads Lisa x

[The One]

Can i also ask my friend if this order is a secret is that a real picture of you you use on avalon.

[Lisab]

Ha thanks 8 but I'm not really interested in joining secret societies personally. It's the ascended masters that puts me off! Keeping an open mind though. I do find the occult interesting.
Edward what are your thoughts on Elenin? I don't know any astrologers who are at all fazed by it.

[Fred Steeves]

You, the people, can assist this process though, by

Hi Edward, just supposing you are who you say you are, I would give an order like yours many thanks for helping keep the flame of knowledge burning during these long dark ages, much like how the Hermetic Principles have been passed down, I suppose. What disturbs me is for all the knowledge you claim to possess, I still see the same old condescending, hierarchical attitude of those who are still trapped by ego and control lust. Just for instance, I don't consider myself to be anybody's anyone, yet I would never dream of addressing people, especially the caliber of people on this forum, in the manner in which I quoted you above.

I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

If your purpose here Edward was to bring what you have to offer to the table, join us as an equal, and be a contributing member of the family, I'd say welcome brother. But unless you're prepared to reveal something eye popping to us, I would suggest that what we have here is another "Charles" game of 20 questions. Or 200. Or 2,000.

But see, here's the thing that was really sticking in my craw while out pressure washing a driveway today: What do you POSSIBLY think you have to offer awakening star gods? Besides the most important things? "Love, support, and respect".

Cheers,
Fred

[Lisab]

Hi Seko sorry I can't link my post to your question I'm on an iPhone. I was referring to Charles. After my first post to him I as well as others became really ill. The Lord Voldermolt thing was just a joke. Lisa x

[seko]

Hi Seko sorry I can't link my post to your question I'm on an iPhone. I was referring to Charles. After my first post to him I as well as others became really ill. The Lord Voldermolt thing was just a joke. Lisa x

Thanks a lot Lisab, I thought you were talking about something deeper and weird. hahaha

[Deedee]

Edward Alexander,

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.

[Edward Alexander]

Well we have been adjusting the balance between positive and negative for centuries. We have healed and helped countless people. We have protected people from various influences. We have taught people important spiritual truths, as well as truths of history, added positive influence on society, science, medicine, culture, improved certain elements of things such as the New Age scene, the Alternative movement, been raising peoples consciousness and awareness, kept the tyrants of the negative groups more limited than they would have been without us, helped mother Earth by cleansing and healing, assisted in finding missing people, made people able to experience their Higher Selves and access their Inner Wisdom, and we have spawned a great amount of honorable and noble men and women whom in turn are constantly doing beneficial work towards others, we have made the esoteric, occult & magical practices more easily available for the common people, we have given help and assistance to large amounts of people whom have been in difficult and desperate situations, we have diverted certain large negative events of the world from happening while also directed large positive events of the world to take place, we have gotten several good and honest great men into various higher positions of society whom in turn have been of great service, assistance and help for large amounts of people around the world, we are constantly working for you all to bring you more positive influences and energies both in your individual lives but also as a whole on a collective basis, we are working on the astral planes to assist people in the afterlife and help them find the way, we are making positive manifestations take place to better certain conditions around the world, we are cleansing and empowering the collective consciousness to make people more aware and conscious of themselves and everything that happens around them, we are influencing the media in positive ways to get certain people recognized for important discoveries, research and inventions so that mainstream media will cover it and make people aware of the secret technologies & suppressed science which otherwise would have never come forth, we have done important historical work and gotten focus on certain sites & places and events of the past of great importance that normally would have been ignored and kept away from the public's eyes, we have influenced various aspects of other orders and groups in positive ways and made important contributions in governments, we have gotten society to put more focus on the alternative lifestyles, occultism, esoteric work, spirituality, magick, psychic abilities, and other beneficial and useful topics, we are exposing secret black-op projects such as mind control, brainwashing, thought control and various forms of manipulation people are victim to, we have introduced new and alternate treatments, cures, medicines, remedies, healing systems and made some positive additions to the medical industry, psychology and health care system, and we are always making more information about current world events get more attention for what they are and how they're caused, and we constantly bring forth higher levels of global consciousness and awareness in people to make them notice more of the deceit, lies and deception all around them.

Everything we do is to benefit all of us, and truly more for you the people than for us self and our true goal is to turn the energy of Earth more positive, make people see things for what they really are, free them from tyrants and slavery, and let them know how they themselves can be the Masters of their lives and what events take place around them and how they can manipulate and change such in their life for the better, more positive, be more in control, become more independent, make the iron grip of the Elite break lose and through self-realization bring harmony back to the world and make the small group of the tyrants weaker and fading away losing all their power and control over mankind as the new era comes upon us all.

[Nomatic]

I don't respond to threads often but my Brother seems to have legitimate training upon a scan of his thoughts and words. The concepts that have been brought up mirrors my teachers transmissions and he is a 5th level.
Thanks you for your service!

[Rog]

Rog,

I mean no offence here.

Your statement that someone is your boss because they know more than you is naive in the extreme. While this is sometime the case, the reality is often that they are the boss because they are better connected, are more ambitious, or simply more underhanded than others. Real scientific studies have proven out the old axiom that nice guys finish last.

Successful and effective business leaders know that they aren't the smartest ones, that it is through their ability to hire and manage people smarter than themselves that they are sucessful.

You are buying into the notion that G.M.E.A. is somehow automatically worthy of respect and deference because he claims to be the high poohbah of a secret society that has been witholding secrets from the world for 8 centuries because: "We can't handle the truth."

Sorry if you don't see this, but I find it offensive.

It was an example man. Not a summary of modern business ethics :/

And I'm not buying a cent. I consider it prudent to allow people I know nothing about the chance to say what they want and explain themselves. I would suggest you meditate on why this is offending you and calm down about it. There are those of us here with our feet firmly planted enjoying what Edward has to relate.

And if you read carefully he really didn't say he was withholding information. It's a highly calculated release based on the power of the information itself. What you're suggesting should happen is like a professional mover carrying a "very fragile" box, walking into the house, and dropping it to the floor from a standing position.

[Unified Serenity]

And if you read carefully he really didn't say he was withholding information. It's a highly calculated release based on the power of the information itself. What you're suggesting should happen is like a professional mover carrying a "very fragile" box, walking into the house, and dropping it to the floor from a standing position.


He is playing a major ego game of Master informing the eager neophytes. If we ask the right questions maybe he will drop a grain or two of special information. Sucking people's energy as they try to gain some "secret" information from someone on the inside. There are many very advanced spiritual people here on Avalon. All forums have lurkers and spiritual babies. I'd say if he wants to really do some good and really is from this secret order than stop playing the 500 question games and just share the truth, and things that improve lives that are secrets that we should know. But, alas nothing of new import will be revealed as I watched this all happen with the Charles thread, and I personally think it's an energetic attack once again designed to splinter the site and our cohesive very friendly and trusting relationships. It works this way, piss enough members off systematically and eventually they leave to avoid the energetic drama.

He has offered nothing of value really, just crumbs of some story of who his family is. I am doing something I don't often do, and that's calling a spade a spade and asking the members to not buy into this drama again like we did with Charles. If my post offends anyone, please forgive me for that is not my intention. It's not even meant to offend the OP. People come here for lots of reasons, and maybe he doesn't even know he's being used energetically, but he is nonetheless. I will say no more on this thread, but I did feel it needs to be said. If the mods deem my post offensive, I am sorry and understand if you remove it.

I care about you all here, and feel strongly about this particular situation.


Serenity

[Edward Alexander]

Can you confirm that Atlantis exists in another dimension here on or near or above earth ?

No, Atlantis is actually the americas. Latin America. I'm a hobby archeologist and researcher of history and lost civilizations, so I've been around some uncovering the truth.
Here is my website with a brief introduction on my discoveries:
http://www.americanatlantis.com/
- I got large amounts of more material and different type of evidence, just didnt get to publish it yet. Among other things evidence for trading route between South America and Egypt, and other travelers going to Americas thousands of years before Colombos. Will try update ti sometime soon.



Are you aware of the Racogzy bloodline ?

No never heard of it.



Are you aware of the House of Hesse and what does this mean spiritually to you ?

No can't say I'm familiar with that.



Are you aware of the AB bloodline and can you enlarge on the topic ?

I have heard some conspiracy theories on this, personally I've never seen anything supporting those claims. My opinion is that its just bs.



What colour are your eyes ?

My eyes are green.



have you took advice or sought discussion as to your reasons for delivering your work here and now and if you did was this from an off world being or entitiy ?

No, i decided to present my story on my own. It is time for the Order to be known to the public, as it may be of historical interest to some.




Are you aware of comet elenin ?

Yes I'm very aware of Elenin, and I now the secret about it thanks to myself being member of various secret occult orders. I wrote the truth about Elenin some time back, and as far I know I'm the first and only one that have reported and discovered this, it is of immense proportions, so check:
http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/08/as-many-of-us-know-by-now-comet-called.html



do you have an opinion on whether comet elenin is a craft or IA craft from Magen David ?

No I don't think it is any craft. See my article linked above.




Why do you refer to Source as God and why do you think the word God has been so readily applied to just about every ET 4/5 dimensional being with some catchy gadget that befuddles men at every level of consciousness ?
God IS the Source obviously. The Source means the origin point of something, in other words the Source is the origin of all of existence. The Source is God. God is not some ET that's just an absurd thought that makes no sense. New Age babbling. Everything exists WITHIN the Mind of GOD - God can only be that which is the most outer of all, since all of existence itself must be within God, and only God can exist outside Everything - Everything is Mental, and we all exist in the Mind of God.




What does the energy we call LOVE mean to you ?
It is a positive and healing energy, but people should not be obsessed about love or think it is the answer to all problems.

Cosmic love[/QUOTE]

[the trojan]

lots of comments in regard to people not being comfortable with the very thought of other human beings, being more special or looked up to or held in a higher regard or status.
I feel the same about this.
May I draw your attention to a similar heirarchy who would prefer to be special
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29253-Kerry-s-2011-Camelot-AWAKE-AND-AWARE-Conference-LA-23-September&p=296228#post296228

check it out,its star studded (literally)
And you know what,not one person has commented on the supposed celebrity status being presented.

[cloud9]

What I find the most interesting is how people react towards others when they say something "different", some members feel threatened, a few others show some interest and some other get really angry for nothing...
I visit the forum every day and read as much as I'm able in the time I have. Many times I've wanted to make a comment but I wait 2 or 5 seconds and I decide that perhaps my opinion is not that important after all and I drop it.
Why do some members feel the need to test others? If you don't agree, just leave it like that, leaving harsh posts doesn't help your intentions.
I always wonder how come people who consider themselves awake and have the knowledge of unity act as they do. Intriguing... are they perhaps not that awake?

[ponda]

Some people might find this article from Edward's website an interesting read.It's titled 'The Trap System'


The Trap System - Secrets never before revealed: Why you are imprisoned in a physical body,Reptilians,Higher Soul,Creation Of Our Existence

Article link: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

cheers

[Anno]

Hi Edward.

Evolution or Devolution?

[Edward Alexander]

By taking a quick look at your other posts and at pleiadiantalk, what I find is that your ideas about the trap goes somewhat in line what Drunvalo Melchizedek has sketched out to be the problem in our energetic system - he refers in his books to a 90 degree turn to be made in "ones head" to avoid the trap, so to speak. Does this ring any bell in you Edward?

Never had to do any 90 degrees turns myself. I usually just shift my consciousness from the physical body and into the perspective of my Higher Soul. Though it is somewhat interesting that a 90 degree turn is mentioned, as I am practicing The Inner Guide Meditation now and then, by Edwin Steinbrecher, and there you are supposed to walk down a hallway and then take a sharp 90 degree turn to the left to go out and meet your Inner Guide. Good book and great exercise, worth checking out.



I also found your writings about the comet elenin interesting in regards as to how closely it fits in with what Richard Hoagland has had to say - how the plan has been going on for a loooong time to smear the whole date of 911 in peoples minds. Some time ago I tried to track down how 911 ever happen to be chosen as the emergency dial.. Have you noticed how elenin has just recently manifested a tetrahedron-shaped dust cloud to underline its geometric nature, synchronizing well with Richards notions of the 19,5 degree message that he has found written all over elenin. Richard Hoaglans main agenda in relation to elenin has been to suggest the possibility in Arthur C. Clarkes words: something wonderful is coming.

Yes, we'll soon see what happens , if anything, when it gets close enough.



What I found a little bugging, but interesting, was that in one post your opinion was that there is no meaning to life in earth other than slavery and entrapment and no lessons to be learned. I do tend to struggle against that idea, but can somewhat resonate with it, as I´ve been thinking in recent times that perhaps instead of me following a preset or guided path(a kind of god-guided plan) - or a prewritten storyline if you will - perhaps it is more important to realize that I am the author of my story and I can write it the way I feel fit. That might be a better way to escape a dungeon, would it not? On other occasions you seem to refer to karma(pointing at meaning and mission in life, I think), and suggest a book that is about soul agreements and "game plan". Not quite sure if I agree with you.. or actually I am not quite sure what is your stand on this matter? Are we or are we not reincarnated here to learn in your opinion? There is the obvious question: if we are trapped here in general with no reincarnative lessons or mission, how come you are on a mission? Either way, intriguing! Just trying to figure out where you are coming from..

Seems you confuse 2 different websites of mine. The book you speak of is not on my PleiadianTalk site, but on my bookstore site ( www.AscendingTimes.com )

The material on the bookstore site are different titles, some more interesting than others, and is something I got to let people have a place to find fairly interesting books, and for me to make a couple bucks. It does not represent my own work, which is PleiadianTalk .

Now, to answer your questions. We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves. I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations. For the memories, yes normally memory is wiped between each incarnation. Sometimes a few memories may still get along into the next incarnation though, but just mere fractions. In my own case, I went here fully conscious with a strong intent to keep my memories to properly remember my mission. Most people reincarnate under completely different circumstances, more sudden and brutal, often already in a state of slumber. I remember my past lives, they're many, since I've been here for thousands of years now working on this mission of mine, its a long and slow job but I got plenty of time and so does the rest of you as well. Its a bit off topic though, I already got a huge thread on this over in godlikeproductions.com , just go there and search for Trap System and it should be easy to find.



Anyways Edward, a good read this thread and I am looking forward to what we all can make of it.

UT

[Alan]

Edward Alexander,

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.

OK I'll bite, where did he say he was King Tut?

[Mandala]

This revelation is reflective and reminiscent of the "Charles Material", which dealt with the elite and their rituals and agenda. Some of us are very cautious after that adventure.

What is your group's present agenda?
Who is politically aware of your group?
Does your group steer future events, and if so where do you see earth/humans going?
What do you know of ascension, upgrading of our DNA/ race and earth's evolution?
What is the truth about astronomical events foretold about comets, Nibiru, earth changes?
Has your group always been aware of coming events and do you think humanity has a right to know?

Hope you can enlighten us. Thank you. Mandala

[seehas]

Some people might find this article from Edward's website an interesting read.It's titled 'The Trap System'


The Trap System - Secrets never before revealed: Why you are imprisoned in a physical body,Reptilians,Higher Soul,Creation Of Our Existence

Article link: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

cheers

most of the stuff i resonate with but life on earth aint no lesson?

are you serious? every minute is a lesson here, i slaped myself several times for the hard course i booked here allready ;)

what reason makes him think there are no lessons to learn on earth?

me for myself i think it is also important to incarnate without knowing about pastlifes because it makes it another level of learning, im sure a persons choice in life selfish or forothers are played out differently because of that.

[NewFounderHome]

[QUOTE=Maia Gabrial;296307]There is a small group, a very small group indeed, of men that has stolen the knowledge they've obtained from their membership in these other orders, and turned it to their own selfish agendas and goals, to enslave, entrap, control and manipulate people, and gain more power and influence. These do NOT represent any of these Orders or what these Orders stand for. They are outcasts, they are NOT supported by us, or the majority of other people that are members of these orders, but rather our enemy that we are working on getting shut down.

If there are few of them. Can you Name them? So they could be known by all.

Peace to you all.

[Deedee]

Edward Alexander,

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.

OK I'll bite, where did he say he was King Tut?

He says it in his video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk7L3395hlM&feature=player_embedded

6 mins 35 seconds in

[WhiteFeather]

The dark horse which has been the favored and faster horse of history's in the past, is now losing its darkness and speed thus being exposed by the light. Hope this helps!

[Anno]

Hi again Edward, you haven't really had a chance to answer my first question yet but I'm heading off now so I thought I'd leave you with a second question, as a follow up to the first:

Pyramid > Sphere : Alternative Control Paradigm.

Give the acceptance of the first question it seems to most the most logical step but I know the 'insiders' are split on it. Where do your people stand?

[Edward Alexander]

So you are coming out now in the 11th hour.

Tell me what have your secret order done for good to the humans, the last 1000 years?
I hope you realise, if you had this Knowledge for a 1000 years. And never tried to enlightenment people outside your closed secret order doors. You are indirect guilty of how the world are to day.

I sugesst your secret order never tried to save the human race. I sugesst your secret order are trying to save there own soules for whats about to come.
I sugesst if you realy whant to do the right thing, you start to ask for forgiveness and then tell the truth.

I forgive you. (i dont think many will do)

P.s if you hold things back now and think you are more then others (like your secret order) its only you who are gonna pay for it in the end.

Please read my response to the other guy who asked what we have done and still do for the rest of you, the public, society. ALL our work is aimed at helping, assisting, cleansing, balancing and harmonizing both ourselves, You, the rest of the population, and Earth itself.

I also answered why a secret order keeps it teachings and practices secrets. It is because its a big risk for abusing such knowledge and power that comes with it. That's why there's these evil selfish thugs running the world, all of them highly involved with the occult practices. We don't want more of those guys, so we are very careful with who are allowed membership and learn such practices.

You would be surprised to know how much work we actually do on your behalf, to help you, and the rest of the people around - we live by noble and honorable deeds and actions.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm sorry, in one breath you say:

The thing is that we are actually following our sworn oaths and the standards set forth in our Orders, unlike the "rogue members" whom dont give a damn and just do as they want as long as they get the power and control regardless of the cost.

And in another you say:


Remember, also, that I am the functional Grand Master , thus I am the Voice and Action of the Order and it is all up to me how I want to do things. There's no one above me to do anything they may "dislike", and I can not be a traitor either since I RUN the Order and make the rules.

Does your most worshipful order not have sworn oaths and standards of its own? Aren't leaders also ultra vires, that is, aren't they just rogues who don't give a damn when they refuse to act within the bounds of precedent and tradition? Could you tell me how your limitless leadership differs from the skulduggery and roguery of those who don't hold the same values as you?

[Edward Alexander]

Yes there's some, I know a couple of the others personally since we're member of same Orders and have done some work together in the past.

So for the magic, yes there are some egyptian influences, hermeticism, but we do not stay to only one system, we go through several different forms of magic, both the traditional ceremonial magic with all the equipment and tools as well as to the most basic which is only the body itself with no tools, using only the power of the mind - even though technically its the Mind that is the "magic" when using the tools as well. We do not use the Goetia though we do evocations and incantations through other ways. I can't really go into great details about our specific practices though.

And no when I was young no one told me to show anything to the public, if that's what you mean. But I've consulted with other ex-grand masters of the past whom have agreed it should be fine and a good idea to let people know.

Yes, I do have a royal bloodline connection, it goes far back though, one of my ancestors was a Viking king.

I have no special opinion on the pyramid, i've never observed any pyramids over on the other side

[Edward Alexander]

13 degrees of initiation till grandmaster, I know number 13 was a symbol of power and harmony in the Pythagorean mystery schools (13 moon cycles a year, 12 zodiac signs plus our solar system etc)...what are your views on pythagoras and the greek mystery schools? Do they influence your lineage in any way.
Yeah, like Jesus and the 12 disciples (13) etc. It may be some elements from pythagorean schools, though I cant really say for sure as I never studied that subject myself and don't know much about it. I would have to check it up, as we do have some material from old greece etc but I think its mostly hermeticism.


For one we take certain action that will reduce negative energies, and increase positive, call it balancing the scale. We bring in more harmony, more truth on what this world is, who runs it, for what purpose, who you are, and what you are doing here, what you can do, and how to live your own life in the uttermost harmony and balance.



Sounds like you follow the same basic principles as taught in Zen buddishm with their tradition of "cultivating merit"...After balancing the scale or cultivating merit however you like to term it, how much importance does your order put on internal alchemy, the transmutation of elements in the body to transform it into a vehicle of light that can travel through time and space and break the karmic cycles of death and rebirth? do you have any other insights to share on the process of attaining that?
The form of alchemy we practice are more about transforming a crude/dull mind/soul to a finer purer form, a full body/mind/soul process. Basically developing oneself spiritually, from one level to a higher level. It is not used for astral projection itself though -I assume that is waht you refer to with the "vehicle of light" etc.

We do however put lots of efforts and practice into astral projection as its own magical art though, and it is one of the more important aspects of our teachings due to its importance in regards of coming death, consciousness, and awareness.

[THIRDEYE]

no direspect too anybody this sounds exactly like charles.....love light and abundance thirdeye.....

[Anno]

[...]both the traditional ceremonial magic with all the equipment and tools as well as to the most basic which is only the body itself with no tools

[...]one of my ancestors was a Viking king.

[...]I have no special opinion on the pyramid, i've never observed any pyramids over on the other side

Ritual magic is the most basic, mind magic the most advanced, you have it backwards.

The Vikings weren't a people it was an activity.

My question was symbolic and would be recognised by anyone who was what you claim to be or even a decent level Mason.

Oh and re your video. You claim to have seen the egyptian pyramids being built when you were Tut but they were built long before him.

You don't actually give information you just describe it. I am this, we do that. Labels and introductions but no content.

Epic fail Edward.

If you are by chance some minion of a higher order, which I doubt from your lack of recognition of what I'm talking about, tell them I am one of those created by the White Queen as her last act before leaving this realm. Untouchable and undefeatable by any that come here and the final solution should it come to it.

----

I kinda miss Charles y'know. Yeah he was a douche but at least he made an effort with his bull****. This guy disrespects us all with his lack of effort and research. I still say the best ever was The Insider from GLP. Noone has been as good since him but then he was meant to have had a big team behind him. Today we have all these lame ass pretenders and they forget that many here have spent years reading actual books not just watching youtube. Stop underestimating us. That goes equally for the gurus.

Anyway, crack on Edward I'm sure you'll sell a few webinars, seminars and magic charms. Cast a spell for a dollar mister? \m/

[Seikou-Kishi]

I can't really go into great details about our specific practices though

You're the Grand Master, you can go into as much detail as you'd like. By all means, continue :-).


Yes, I do have a royal bloodline connection, it goes far back though, one of my ancestors was a Viking king.

Well, if one goes back far enough, we all have royal connections. Emperor Charlemagne is purported to be the ancestor of half of all living Europeans. As for Genghis Khan half of the entire world is said to be the fruit of his venerable loins. I myself have Anglo-Saxon kings of the heptarchy in my family tree, and more recent kings of both the United Kingdom and other European countries, but I am not a member of any secret order. I'm not even a lizard-in-disguise nor do I sup my tea in the company of les Éminences Grises. I would say to everybody here: royal descent is of no special distinction, and, as I have said, if one looks back far enough, there is royal descent in every tree.

And by the way, 'Viking king' is a misnomer: the Vikings weren't a people or a nation.

[atlantianferret]

May we have copies of documents? If not everyone, PM me them via links.

Thank you,

Petere Veritas

[Edward Alexander]

Hello Edward Alexander

Thank you for sharing. No doubt you will understand the need for us to be discerning. Everyone here is well aware of the altered ego’s desire for attention, recognition, glorification, etc, etc. False information, disinformation, lies, deception etc unfortunately have been too common for us on this forum and in our daily lives. Though many here are truth seekers are also battle weary. Perhaps it is as it should be in the last days…

In any event, I welcome your admonition for self empowerment and your efforts to inspire greatness within. The elbowing you are experiencing here is part of the process of the “common folk” expressing sovereignty that is too long overdue.

I assure you, however, the moment any hint of undermining the masses, of subjugating us to more tyranny or deception, these and more will be returned to you a hundred times. For I am a member of the greatest of privileged societies called humanity and it is to that I pledge my ‘sword’ to protect and to serve.


If you can survive these initial barbs and show us love and compassion in the long run, you have my support as well as the support of all noble beings and spirits of antiquity.

Thank you for your understanding.

Not sure why all the hostility, I dont think I've been rude or saying anything to offend anyone here, or something that could be considered bad in any way?

In either case, I have no hidden agendas here, I've here to assist and help in any way I can. Others here have received my help in different forms before, I just saw several talk about my guided meditation course that I put out for free, and it's got only excellent reviews. Normally I expose things in great depths, I often go deeper than anyone else I'm aware of having done, to the very core of what is going on in this world and throughout the various planes of existence and astral realms.

Besides, i'm somewhat credible, I know several of the other "whistleblowers" and "insiders" that have been interviewed or active here, and have worked with some of them on different projects, including some related to secret orders together with one of my Bro.'s member of same order as me. Some of those I've known around 6 years back or more.

Also, I know Bill and Kerry, I have been here since they started the very first videos. I've known them probably close to 10 years now, I've been supplying them with various information published on their sites before etc.

I'm the real deal, and tell the truth as it is, nothing to hide, just things to expose and get out to the people.

[Lettherebelight]

Maybe he's Thor. He kinda looks like a Thor...

[Deedee]

Maybe he's Thor. He kinda looks like a Thor...

Don't boost his ego any more. He's already claimed the King Tut title...

[Anno]

Maybe he's Thor. He kinda looks like a Thor...

Oi, don't insult the gods. Besides, he looks way more like Simon Pegg.

http://www.realsea.net/photo/Simon-Pegg66030.jpg

Anyway, that's enough from me. I'm going to go insult some vegans like a grandmaster would.

[thunder24]

There are ways to ask questions and dig deeper before just screaming foul.
There are also ways of politely disagreeing....
Inspect thourghly , tear to shreds, but respect...be bigger than that which you disagree with.
Paradigms are meant to be busted, no?

peace

[Edward Alexander]

"All up to you." <bursting out laughing> <wiping tears from eyes> Oh my dear, you are so unclear on the concept of ascension.

Yes, up to me, glad you could get a laught at least, important to be joyful and glad. Though, ascension? It seems like it might be tad possible you are the one that got the concept of ascension messed up here. But please do feel free to give your explanation and definition on your "ascension".



Yea, He speaks and we the members are struck dumb and found spiritually incapable. Surely in the eyes of the wise it is best that the "Elite" of the world continue to practice the dark arts and we remain in ignorance don't you think sir? Sir? (Sorry, but your comment above deserves a little sarcasm in my book, yea my holy and powerful book that with a wave of My HP Wand in tandem with my fellow beloved mystical and secret practitioners of the Rosy Ass of Avalon shows the truth of all things) <snrt>.

Not sure what you are suggesting here. Did you not fathom the fact that we do not condone acts of violence, we do not use force, nor any other malicious or negative way of any form of attack against others. We are NOT letting the practice their dark arts as they want though, in fact we've stopped them many times. I myself have had attempts at me, but it has always failed because of my own protection against such dark magic. Have you heard of implanting thoughts, ideas and personalities, through Magic, and Psychic work? That's a route we would rather prefere to influence such people, and cleans out the negativity and obsessions and fill it up with fresh new positive jelly.



I challenge you to be a little more forthcoming out of your experience, rather than your knowledge.
You know, for someone in the know, you do *know* you have told us nothing we don't know...

So, what is your question then? Feel free to ask.

[MargueriteBee]

Sounds like a good story for a video game tho.

[Edward Alexander]

Hi Edward I do have to say I've been using your guided meditation every night and I've been waking up feeling refreshed and HAPPY all day long. I wholeheartedly recommend it. I'd been feeling really flat for ages prior to using it.
What I'm trying to say no bad psychic attacks coming this way. Which I've experienced before - by he whose name shall not be mentioned and I'm not talking about Lord Voldermolt lol!!!

THanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Got it available as both MP3 and in YouTube video fro anyone else interested in checking it out:

MP3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T21QYWQM

YouTube - http://youtu.be/qOZ32dmPgEA

PLEASE USE HEADPHONES FOR THE BEST RESULTS! DEVELOPED FOR USE WITH HEADPHONES.

[norman]

All we need now are some Bull**** flag poles and and some cussing and we have GLP.

I say let the guy tell it as he sees it.

[Edward Alexander]

Can i also ask my friend if this order is a secret is that a real picture of you you use on avalon.

Yes its my own photo. No reason to put up other peoples photos, its not like I'm hiding. And note: It is the PRACTICES, RITUALS, ACTIVITIES of the Order that is Secret, NOT the existence of the Order itself.

Here is my personal FaceBook profile if you would like to get to know me better: http://www.facebook.com/maggador

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Ha thanks 8 but I'm not really interested in joining secret societies personally. It's the ascended masters that puts me off! Keeping an open mind though. I do find the occult interesting.
Edward what are your thoughts on Elenin? I don't know any astrologers who are at all fazed by it.

From my background in the secret orders, I got some direct inside information on waht Elenin is all about. I'm the first one to publish this truth, along with evidence showing the connection on how this magical ritual have been planned in long times, many decades back at lest:
http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/08/as-many-of-us-know-by-now-comet-called.html

[Mike]

grandmaster Edward,

would you kindly "thank" this post? i just really want the distinction of being the first person on the forum to be thanked by King Tut.

[Ilie Pandia]

All we need now are some Bull**** flag poles and and some cussing and we have GLP.

I say let the guy tell it as he sees it.

Hello,

Norman has a point!

Please lets try and be civilized about this :)

:focus:

[Mike]

plus it might add a little color to my job resume:

-Mike performs well in high stress situations

-Mike is highly experienced and well-educated

-Mike was once thanked by King Tut on the Project Avalon forum

[Edward Alexander]

You, the people, can assist this process though, by

Hi Edward, just supposing you are who you say you are, I would give an order like yours many thanks for helping keep the flame of knowledge burning during these long dark ages, much like how the Hermetic Principles have been passed down, I suppose. What disturbs me is for all the knowledge you claim to possess, I still see the same old condescending, hierarchical attitude of those who are still trapped by ego and control lust. Just for instance, I don't consider myself to be anybody's anyone, yet I would never dream of addressing people, especially the caliber of people on this forum, in the manner in which I quoted you above.
Honestly, I don't see what is the "problem" with my quote there above. But its ok for me if you don't like the way I express myself. Then i suggest you to wait and see if I can offer you something more practical and useful instead, or take a chat with some of the other people whom already did that and got help from me. Also, I've been here since the very start of Camelot, close to 10 years, and I've known Billy & Kerry for all those years and had many great times with them, and also provided them with some inside information they've published earlier. I'm what I am, no lies or deceit, and I speak the way I chose to speak.



I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

I would not agree to the above. You are of course free to believe that, but i can't see that what you describe will happen. I'm working with some higher orders myself, such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide, have not seen anything in either of those places, nor by my own intuition either, supporting what you just said. Then again , speaking of picking fruit, thats a fair analogy of what members do when joining the Order as well.



If your purpose here Edward was to bring what you have to offer to the table, join us as an equal, and be a contributing member of the family, I'd say welcome brother. But unless you're prepared to reveal something eye popping to us, I would suggest that what we have here is another "Charles" game of 20 questions. Or 200. Or 2,000.

I am nothing like Charles, its easy to find me around, I'm not just popping in here for the first time, been here for many years as said above. You can look up any of my past material anywhere you feel like and make up your mind weather I share some truths of use or not.




But see, here's the thing that was really sticking in my craw while out pressure washing a driveway today: What do you POSSIBLY think you have to offer awakening star gods? Besides the most important things? "Love, support, and respect".

Cheers,
Fred

What I can offer is directions, road map, instructions, how to navigate, and much more on the path. As I've done for years.

Cheers mate

[Buck]

You, the people, can assist this process though, by

Hi Edward, just supposing you are who you say you are, I would give an order like yours many thanks for helping keep the flame of knowledge burning during these long dark ages, much like how the Hermetic Principles have been passed down, I suppose. What disturbs me is for all the knowledge you claim to possess, I still see the same old condescending, hierarchical attitude of those who are still trapped by ego and control lust. Just for instance, I don't consider myself to be anybody's anyone, yet I would never dream of addressing people, especially the caliber of people on this forum, in the manner in which I quoted you above.

I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

If your purpose here Edward was to bring what you have to offer to the table, join us as an equal, and be a contributing member of the family, I'd say welcome brother. But unless you're prepared to reveal something eye popping to us, I would suggest that what we have here is another "Charles" game of 20 questions. Or 200. Or 2,000.

But see, here's the thing that was really sticking in my craw while out pressure washing a driveway today: What do you POSSIBLY think you have to offer awakening star gods? Besides the most important things? "Love, support, and respect".

Cheers,
Fred

I logged on and fell in right here, have not even read through this thread but forgive my intrusion I just have to burst in and say I am so glad I got to witness this brilliance. Fred. You rock, brother!!
What an awesome statement !! Here's to the astonishing, inexplicable power of our true potential!

And Edward, with all due respect, it would seem that some of your old conditioning is possibly clouding the exchange. Reminds me of the time when I went to do my first official hands on healing session as a practitioner in training, many years ago. I had been studying for years, and I was so ready to be of service. And as I stood back from the table, in my perfectly awesome spiritually evolved way, after performing my miraculous healing on an obviously unenlightened female office worker (she worked in law firm, so of course I was more evolved, after all, I am an artist), I knew I was following my true calling in this life.

I could feel the wise and appreciative gaze of my teacher, and so I took extra care to be sure to finish my healing session with my hands in the most perfectly symmetrical and peaceful rendition of a humble blessing. I stepped away from the patient, with my head bowed and my hands over my heart as I had been trained, closing out the session with the proper respect one should offer a person that you are healing. After all, it was important to remember that even when they are not quite on the path where I was, she was, nevertheless, a worthy soul.

And I could picture the woman's aura too- I imagined it would be a little thing, gold with maybe an effervecsent bubbly quality to it. Just about then I remember I became aware of a light emanating from around the woman's body in my peripheral vision. I stepped back, and looking up, in the very moment I became aware of it, the light revealed itself as a magnificent golden sphere, radiating out, washing over me, filling the room. At the same moment my hearing changed too, like I was suddenly underwater. And just as I was taking this in, trying to make sense of what was happening, the light inside the giant sphere went from shimmering bright to blazing- and for a moment it felt like my entire body was going to be burned to a cinder. It felt like my face was going to burned off.

In an instant it was gone, and there I was, staring off, in shock. That magnifient being that my ego was there to "heal", had just introduced herself. I was a brazen little sunfish that had just crossed paths with a grey whale.

I turned around, embarrassed, and in awe, to meet my teacher's gaze. The loving smile at the corners of his eyes said it all.

It does feel to me like you are sincere. The problem is, we have a new dial in frequency. Up two octaves would be a good place to start. With an open heart, and your beautiful desire to serve and protect all that is good, you'll surely find us.

[<8>]

So you are coming out now in the 11th hour.

Tell me what have your secret order done for good to the humans, the last 1000 years?
I hope you realise, if you had this Knowledge for a 1000 years. And never tried to enlightenment people outside your closed secret order doors. You are indirect guilty of how the world are to day.

I sugesst your secret order never tried to save the human race. I sugesst your secret order are trying to save there own soules for whats about to come.
I sugesst if you realy whant to do the right thing, you start to ask for forgiveness and then tell the truth.

I forgive you. (i dont think many will do)

P.s if you hold things back now and think you are more then others (like your secret order) its only you who are gonna pay for it in the end.

Please read my response to the other guy who asked what we have done and still do for the rest of you, the public, society. ALL our work is aimed at helping, assisting, cleansing, balancing and harmonizing both ourselves, You, the rest of the population, and Earth itself.

I also answered why a secret order keeps it teachings and practices secrets. It is because its a big risk for abusing such knowledge and power that comes with it. That's why there's these evil selfish thugs running the world, all of them highly involved with the occult practices. We don't want more of those guys, so we are very careful with who are allowed membership and learn such practices.

You would be surprised to know how much work we actually do on your behalf, to help you, and the rest of the people around - we live by noble and honorable deeds and actions.



thanks for your reply..

Obviously your 1000 years work for the human race have faild, well it depends how you look at it i guess.
But i dont blame you for that, i realy dont blame anyone. Me personally am past all that silly, i know i am "eternal" so i realy dont need any help do i ?

[Lettherebelight]

I don't rate your secret rituals and practises. It's simply the manipulation of subtle energies. Anyway, we all have access to the highest knowledge, it's already there within all of us!

And...

"This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realisation, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting and joyfully performed."

That's from chapter nine of the Bhgavada Gita, The Most Confidential Knowledge.

[Edward Alexander]

Edward Alexander,

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.
Thanks for bringing it up. The explanation is very simple in fact. We are Soul Fragments here , small little parts of our Totality, the Higher Soul. We are multidimensional. Souls can exist simoultanesouly in these different dimensions, doing either similar things or completely different and strong contrast with eachother.

What happens is that a Soul Fragment itself, can temporarily incarnate in a body, such as King Tut. Then after death of the physical body, that Soul Fragment may split up in several more Soul Fragments giving it a possibility to incarnate in several different bodies in different places and time, simoultaenously. Thus, you now have, lets say 5 new bodies, each with a Soul Fragment of the original 1 Soul Fragment that was in King Tut. If these 5 people having these Soul Fragments, which used to be one while in King Tut, do a regression to past lives, they will all 5 of them see and experience themselves as King Tut, since they all were King Tut as 1 Soul Fragment back then.

Thus, several people can be the same past person, as the Soul Fragments can split up from 1 into several new ones from life to life. These people having 5 Soul Fragments, that are 5 pieces of the first 1 Soul Fragment, are thus spiritually connected in a deep way, and in a sense alternate selves of eachother.

Personally, right now in this body, I've experienced myself within a large amount of other bodies in different times and places, which revealed to me that I live several connected lives in different parallel dimensions, but still each of them living their own individual lives with no knowledge of eachother.

[astrid]

I have seen this same posting in Godlike productions from someone from argentina is this you

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godlikeproductions.com%2Fforum1%2Fmessage1617248%2Fpg1&ei=HwJdTt7FKY6dOqjKwO8C&usg=AFQjCNGV2nRepM3tICmSg1n_VcGQh0-H8A


Also here http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=213221

Edward, do you have the permission of your order to speak out at this time, and is this a group effort, with you just being the spokesman??

Would you consider being interview by Bill and Kerry to get the information out you are intending to more fully??

Is there any risk for you in doing this??

Why now??



Also....I see you are advocating the catastrophe time line, and telling people they should be moving. Specifically to Argentina.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc7gMIwD7Bc

Blessings,

Astrid

[Decibellistics]

Riddle me this one batman.

Does Alexander saying he is king tut sound any different from inelia saying what she is or any person who has had a regression say who they used to be....I think not.

The name of the game at this point is regaining our personal power and freedom. If what he says goes against that, then ignore him.

He is a trained old world sorcerer/magician, like almost all of the secret societies that exist. Everything that we know now, has been taught to us by the old world sorcerers. I think if he is the real deal and can attest to the knowledge of his orders lineage and knowledge they know then we might have some keys.

For instance.....he cannot talk about how to approach a technique due to the fact that old world sorcery techniques had ultimately destroyed the last world. I.E. atlantis.
We are seeing this again today. The world is being destroyed because the knowledge and power is too great for the one that holds it. So I don't necessarily blame him for not wanting to teach us specific calls to entities or psychic techniques to influence people or energies of the planet. For instance if you could manifest enough energy in a specific area of the world.....do you think you may have the possibility to influence.....a mass genocide....a public uprising......a financial collapse....maybe......i don't know because I have no interest in the such.

I digress.....maybe he has some answers we've been wondering about for a long time.

What is the history of humans based on what he has been taught?
What are the innate powers of humans?
Can we achieve these potentials within us without a teacher?
What is the true meaning of liberty and freedom?
Is it dangerous to make an alliance with inorganic beings?
How can we defend ourselves from negative influences?
What is the ultimate goal of the rogues and how have they been allowed to achieve such grandiosity when they are in fact going against their oaths and their brothers who have also taken oaths?
How is the power structure set up?
Do you have to be born into a secret society?

These are just some questions on my mind. Maybe things will add up, maybe they won't. But regardless, might as well hear what the dude has to say.

P.S. I am my own grandpa, I also had my brains blown out by an SS officer because of a love affair, I was probably a shaman in a past life, I'm also probably not from this planet and ache to go home someday. I've been put here as an observer and am on a quest to learn as much as possible before I die or I shoot off into space.

Truth is experiential.....Might as well let the dude share his personal experiences and or methods.....better than then to belittle him to death. SHEEEEEIT

Theres a huge difference between this guy and Charles. Number 1 Charles wouldnt show his face, number two charles was an ass and reiterating every piece of knowledge he learned from every video you and I have already seen, and number three this guy isn't asking you to join his group.....he's doing nothing more than any other new-agey person would do and that is to raise the vibrational energy level in the name of good.
Meh. I'm done talking now.

[Dawn]

So you have a 'secret society' that is 'good' and has been around for a long time.
You have superior gifts and talents.
You inherited them through a bloodline.
You work for what you believe is the highest and best good of mankind.
You revealed this for some secret reason which you won't divulge.
This is what I understand from all your posts.

OK... why not. Thanks

[Edward Alexander]

What is your group's present agenda?
To heal rebalance the world , its population, bring forth truths, insights, and experiences through direct practice.
Reveal the Inner Self, Shift the State of Mind to the most beneficial positive, Learn people to heal themselves and others, teach them powerful meditations for a variety of effects and goals,
Make people experience their Soul, and soultravel, teach them to navigate the after-life, help them get in touch with benevolent beings and entities, evocations, invocations,
Create and anchor a positive mindset, transmute negative energies to positive, convert emotions from a bad state to a good state, maintain constant inner peace and calm
Make people learn the ways to achieve their positive goals, and reach their dreams, attract only great things in life and shield of the negative, physical perfection & training
Balance between Body, Mind, Soul - Energy Work and the ability to send energy from any part of the body to any other part, make healing energy balls
Rituals for cleansing, grounding, consecration, shielding, energy charging, energy release, kundalini raising, connecting with the cosmos
Create astral worlds and entities for beneficial and good purposes, to help oneself or others, get to know and communicate with different entities
Useful increase for intuition, tools to use along with intuition to obtain answers on questions or find objects, pendulum dowsing, tarot
Remote Viewing, Telepathy, Using Will and Intention to either attract animals, or repel them away, psychokinesis
Reiki Healing, Kundalini Reiki Healing, Kuthumi Reiki Healing
Healing System of the Great White Brotherhood



Who is politically aware of your group?
Probably not many considering its not been public for long.



Does your group steer future events, and if so where do you see earth/humans going?
Earth, some more natural disasters and other problems coming soon, economic collaps, riots, troubles, fire in the sky, electroshock



What do you know of ascension, upgrading of our DNA/ race and earth's evolution?
Only way to ascend is by discarding the physical body. Thus, through Death, and that must be done by maintaining awareness and consciousness through the whole process.




What is the truth about astronomical events foretold about comets, Nibiru, earth changes?
Relates to the question #2 from above - earth moving, floods, volcano, storms, earthquakes, sky phenomena ,



Has your group always been aware of coming events and do you think humanity has a right to know?
Yes, we give out warnings when we will it is something of a magnitude that could pose a danger

Hope you can enlighten us. Thank you. Mandala[/QUOTE]

Cheers

[Edward Alexander]

I'm sorry, in one breath you say:

The thing is that we are actually following our sworn oaths and the standards set forth in our Orders, unlike the "rogue members" whom dont give a damn and just do as they want as long as they get the power and control regardless of the cost.

And in another you say:


Remember, also, that I am the functional Grand Master , thus I am the Voice and Action of the Order and it is all up to me how I want to do things. There's no one above me to do anything they may "dislike", and I can not be a traitor either since I RUN the Order and make the rules.

Does your most worshipful order not have sworn oaths and standards of its own? Aren't leaders also ultra vires, that is, aren't they just rogues who don't give a damn when they refuse to act within the bounds of precedent and tradition? Could you tell me how your limitless leadership differs from the skulduggery and roguery of those who don't hold the same values as you?

Those quotes are out of context. In the first one I'm speaking about our promise and sworn oaths to be kind, have a good, healthy positive attitude and state of mind, help people out, show respect and good honorable deeds, be a noble gentleman, and only serve others and never steal or harm or otherwise cause negative effects upon them. Basically our set of moral ethics.

In the second quote I'm referring to myself being able to post this information about my own order here if I so desire. The second have no relation to the first quote, about two completely different things. There has never been any discussion between other members and myself in the Order regarding making the order known, we live in new times, and it felt appropriate to do so, as I mentioned earlier I had discussed this with two previous grandmasters whom agreed it seemed fine.

ILS

[Wiremu2011]

My Order has influenced Freemasonry, and vice versa - as some of the original first members were of the early Freemasons, and in turn that means some of the useful teachings from there may have been implented into certain practices, and in turn our members implemented parts of our systems into their teachings, as well as into many other orders & societies since this Order I am in dates back before most of these other "popular" orders. We have no connection though, we are an independent order, founded by EX- Templars along with a couple early Freemasons and Rosicrucians and some other individuals.

Yes, be believe in God, we are practicing true christian mysticism - Annunaki type beings, well not in that sense, but non-physical entities that are here yes - I don't quite understand your question about the Elite, if you are asking if we support that the answer is clearly NO, we work AGAINST those tyrants, whom are fallen from dignity and outcasts of the orders they've been part of, they do not keep to the sacred oaths they have sworn, nor do they act in noble and honorable ways as we swore on our oath and is the foundation of our orders, and they stole all the secret knowledge obtained from being members to use it for own selfish ends instead of using it to help and assist the world and its people.

We have connections with Illuminati, but not in any sinister ways. No political groups etc. Never been on Bilderberger groups, never intend to - these are part of the above mentioned tyrants that we are against.

And no, i just let you know about the existence of our Order. I did not even name it, nor give any details where its founded, who are involved, and certainly not any of he secret practices, rituals, ceremonies, teachings and activities. However - we are in changing times, so I have decided to make parts of the Order more public, for the sake of benefiting others as well more directly. Remember, also, that I am the functional Grand Master , thus I am the Voice and Action of the Order and it is all up to me how I want to do things. There's no one above me to do anything they may "dislike", and I can not be a traitor either since I RUN the Order and make the rules . We are in crucial times, and I have decided its time to break the almost 1000 years of secret silence and let people in a bit on what's going on in this world. I'm not one of the bad guys, I'm one of the good ones, and we are strongly against all the negativity taking place due to other individuals abusing the occult systems of magic and other practices they've obtained from orders like ours and our friends.

So, you can ask me anything, and I'll determine if I feel I can answer it . I will do my best.

Thanks for your posts bro. One question that's intrigued me, and I'm assuming you're able to answer it, given you're in the "know", is that, would it be correct to say that the Luciferien Soul Complex was ordered by "The Council" in agreement with Yahweh to be the catalyst or more specifically, the negative cataylst that would challenge and exten how we played out this so called cosmic "game" to determine the type/level of density the individual soul would "shift" to, as we go through these so called coming "changes"?
Would it be fact that once one knows or finally wakes up to this "game" collectively and for reasons unbeknown to most, that it would change our whole perspective in what we think is the mystery of life - that we are and always have been one with creator and amongst ourselves?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks :)

[Sierra]

You offer to answer my questions but you haven't answered any questions from anyone with new data. You keep kicking my bells and whistles too and I don't like that. Here are a few:


Your attitude of no thanks or gratitude. This does not speak well to our future relationship and why would I listen to one of such disrespect towards me.

Do not see your own arrogance, do not see that we see your arrogance, do not see why your arrogance is a warning flag to us, and you ignore the impact of your arrogance on this thread and your agenda. This is not intelligent behavior.

You speak only in regurgitated pap, I have not learned one new thing yet in five pages, two or three blog entries and youtube. It is irritating and time consuming to go chasing after a false prophet. (False prophets don't say anything new.)

The Great White Brotherhood / Koot Humi paradigm is supported by Alice A. Bailey/Lucis Trust, an Illuminati Organization, fascist and anti-semitc among other unattractive traits (I've read approximately 20-25 feet of Bailey, what a waste of time that was ...)

Top level is always male in the dying patriarchy paradigm.

Speaks in terms of the occult, not the spiritual, not good.

Call yourself grand master, obsessed with bloodlines, so Illuminati of you.

The way you speak of balance: You say yourself, balance is *so* important but the way you speak of balance sets off alarm bells. And let us understand, the Illuminati, as Avalon understands the term, are *very* concerned with balance. They do good deeds in their external world to "balance" what they do in their internal world of Illuminati practices. This is not what you and I think of as balance people, believe me.

Women are equal? As above so below and that just is not manifesting in the 3D paradigm now is it, whereas the continuous brutalization, consumption and termination of women and children is? As far as I can tell, we are barely in the beginning stages of manifesting awareness of what is being done on the Illuminati-Patriarchy front. Your women don't talk very much in your circles do they or you'd know this.

The Mirror effect or just call it projection. Someone pointed this out and I thought I'd share:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11437-THE-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-a-new-Project-Avalon-video-interview&p=99962&viewfull=1#post99962

Ta da and just to finish this off for now: The Fear Factor. We all understand the use of fear. You too can escape The Trap!


Dude, you are sprouting warning flags everywhere. Some of the stuff you say I like and it is useful but so do pedophile priests spout useful stuff. All day long. And it is just regurgitated pap. There is no power in it. There is no energy in it. It is not going to kick me up the side of the head the way some people on this forum can. It is junk food.

So, yes, a pound of salt for now. And no questions. Don't think I'll condescend to get in serious conversation with you after six pages of nothing, until you clean up your act. Well actually, I don't think you can clean up your act at this point.

And in the final analysis let us quote a knowledgeable woman:
"Never trust the occultist who tells you that he is the head of a tradition, because if he were, in the first place, he would not tell the fact to the uninitiated, and in the second place he would in all probability be living in great seclusion and inaccessible to all but his immediate subordinates. If a man is a great artist he does not need to inform us of the fact; we shall know him by his pictures that are hung in the galleries of the nation, and we shall, moreover, find that he guards himself from casual acquaintances because of the inroads on his time to which his fame renders him liable. The more eminent a person, the harder he is to approach, not out of any spirit of pride and exclusiveness, but because so many people want to see him that discrimination has to be used in admitting them."
— Dion Fortune (Esoteric Orders and Their Work and The Training and Work of the Initiate)

Dude, yer all OVER the web, just begging for attention! <falling over laughing again>

Sierra :wave:

[Edward Alexander]

Ritual magic is the most basic, mind magic the most advanced, you have it backwards.

Yes , however what I meant was "basic" as in "with no tools" - not "basic" as in "easier". Obviously I know pure mind magic is the most advanced, thats why everyones using tools during rituals since its easier to live into.



The Vikings weren't a people it was an activity.

In my language Norwegian its called a Vikingkonge, which translated to english is Viking king. I'm no expert on vikings or how they were termed, and I have not much interest in them.



My question was symbolic and would be recognised by anyone who was what you claim to be or even a decent level Mason.

Good for you. If you wanted to talk about hexagrams, you could just have said so. Im tired here and just typing down quick, been up 2 days without sleep since I am president of 2 companies that had a lot of work throughout the night and day. Seeing double too here now :)



Oh and re your video. You claim to have seen the egyptian pyramids being built when you were Tut but they were built long before him.

Yes that's what I saw, I saw them build something. Maybe something else for all I know, I didnt stay long enough to study details. Nor do I know if the history books are correct



You don't actually give information you just describe it. I am this, we do that. Labels and introductions but no content.

What kind of information do you want? Maybe if you ask more direct questions relating to what you're wondering about I could give you something better.

Also, I have been publishing articles exposing some of the greatest secrets for years already, at www.PleiadianTalk.com and my threads around as maggador online, google.



Epic fail Edward.

Felt it went fair enough, despite my lack of any sleep 2 days in a row. Brain gets slightly sluggish you know :)



Anyway, crack on Edward I'm sure you'll sell a few webinars, seminars and magic charms. Cast a spell for a dollar mister? \m/

I'm not selling anythign, my information has always been for free, and will always stay free. I'm not into it for the money, I already earn more than I can spend on my other unrelated business (linguistics company I own)

[Tenzin]

* post deleted *

I am now reading your websites. I shall ask more in-depth and practical questions when I am through!! :cool:

You also mentioned something about 'tip of the spine' in your other thread on external influences but did not elaborate further. I guess that is also in your materials as well?

[Edward Alexander]

[QUOTE=The One;296336]I have seen this same posting in Godlike productions from someone from argentina is this you

Also here http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=213221

Yes I posted it in three forums that I am frequently in to spread it to more people, I usually do that with posts and articles I write since my mission is to get as many as possible to get a chance to hear me out, and then decide fro themselves whether I speak the truth, or just bull****. I never ask people to believe me, in fact I tell them NOT to, they should all find the Truth themselves from own personal experience, but it could be an idea to take what I say into consideration on the way.



[QUOTE=The One;296336]
Edward, do you have the permission of your order to speak out at this time, and is this a group effort, with you just being the spokesman??

Well, yes from my own, not from the others ones I'm part of, but thats fine there's plenty to talk about from the one I'm speaking of here anyway.


[QUOTE=The One;296336]
Would you consider being interview by Bill and Kerry to get the information out you are intending to more fully??

Sure, I could ask them and see if there's any interest, I know them very well and have done so for almost 10 years now.

[QUOTE=The One;296336]
Is there any risk for you in doing this??

Always risks, depending on what I reveal and speak of, had my share of nasty problems once I went public some years ago, got messy.


[QUOTE=The One;296336]
Why now??

Times getting crucial, people need to get some assistance, guidance and knowledge, learn how to go about things, and more about their own inner being and powers.


[QUOTE=The One;296336]
Also....I see you are advocating the catastrophe time line, and telling people they should be moving. Specifically to Argentina.....


Blessings,

Astrid

Yeah, from my research Argentina should be one of the most safest places in the coming times. Moved here 5 years ago.

[DoubleHelix]

I'm appalled at some of the responses here, regardless of whether this guys the real deal or not do you really think this will entice future "whistleblowers" to speak out at Avalon?

What ever happened to conducting one's self in a respectful manner?

[ketturah]

Cnut/Canute?

[Shikasta]

Thank you Edward Alexander for opening up here. As DoubleHelix (hi!) points out in Post #120, I can see why so many 'whistleblowers' flew the coup, given your treatment by a number of posters here.

While I/we have the right to choose to consider/accept/reject what others post here, how would we feel if we were attacked the same way Edward has been here? Regardless of the veracity of his presentation, how does insulting someone help clarify anything?

Wiremu, the question you asked in your Post #115 is a good one! I'd be interested in having answered...not because Edward has all the answers, but because for me this is about engaging in respectful dialogue, regardless of who/what ever someone claims to be or have been.

We are ALL sparks of the divine, engaged in the divine play of life, none greater or lessser, ALL of the same ulitimate lineage/heritage as far as I currently understand.

...ok...getting off my soap box now...please hold the rotten tomatoes! :p

[Sierra]

Also, I've been here since the very start of Camelot, close to 10 years, and I've known Billy & Kerry for all those years and had many great times with them, and also provided them with some inside information they've published earlier. I'm what I am, no lies or deceit, and I speak the way I chose to speak.


That's odd ... Camelot was only formed some five years ago, in April 2006 (http://projectavalon.net/about_us.html).

[loveandgratitude]

Thank you Edward. Everyone has a story to tell. It might not be the story all people want to hear, but some people will want to listen to the story. Please continue with open heart as there are some here that do want to listen to your tales.

[mahalall]

Insightful,

The thought arises,

If truly walking the zebra crossing (light and darkness) are you experiencing brahma-vihara?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmavihara

metta

(reading further on it's too heavy for me dude !, but good luck)

[ViralSpiral]

Hello Edward

As you can tell, many of us lesser mortals caught in the "Trap System", are aware and awake.

On your site, you proffer discernment, which we are practising.

I acknowledge that your presence here is to be a lesson for us. I am still assessing what it is.


I like what Buck said:


The problem is, we have a new dial in frequency. Up two octaves would be a good place to start. With an open heart, and your beautiful desire to serve and protect all that is good, you'll surely find us.


Get some rest, we will pick on you again later http://www.smartforum.no/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/wink_smiley.gif

[New Dawn]

Here we go. No offence to the poster but this reminds me in a way of when Charles was here. After that whole unfortunate episode, without even a shred of evidence to back up what is being said, I just can't be interested - and that will stay the same even if Bill decides to interview you and give you your own section.

[ponda]

Yeah well i find your story very interesting Edward.It's not surprising that you are under the pump a bit here at the moment especially after what the forum has been through over the past 10 months or so.This is a good thing imho that people are scrutinizing your info in a polite way.


Anyway...


One aspect of our reality that i constantly think about is how is it constructed and controlled.i was just reading one of your threads on another forum and came across this info that you posted in response to another person...


quote

If you really want to know why "someone" is controlled, it is actually very simple. EVERYONE are controlled to some degree. This in form of various methods as I have mentioned, from actual physical technology, medicines/drugs, hypnotic suggestions, to more severe spiritual processes such as inner archetypes and the collective consciousness. You think "you" are "YOU", but in reality you lack a very major understanding of yourself and what you are composed of. I have explained this previously, both here and in other threads, and if you think your mind is "yours" you are as deceived as most of the people of the world. After all, that was the purpose, to make you believe you are what you think you are


Are you implying that we are all being constantly controlled and monitored by 'the matrix' or 'the trap system' through direct mind control from a higher dimensional AI construct or a higher dimensional entity or a combination of astral entities/parasites ?

Or is it possibly a combination of indirect mind control via conditioning for the masses and a more direct form of mind control for the elite ?

Also in your opinion how is the Trap System constructed from a 3d perspective ?

I suspect that what the negative higher dimensional controllers fear most is the 'Collective Consciousness' rising or becoming more awakened.Exactly what appears to be happening right now.Interesting times ahead.

cheers

[Jayke]

Yeah, like Jesus and the 12 disciples (13) etc. It may be some elements from pythagorean schools, though I cant really say for sure as I never studied that subject myself and don't know much about it. I would have to check it up, as we do have some material from old greece etc but I think its mostly hermeticism.



Sounds like you follow the same basic principles as taught in Zen buddishm with their tradition of "cultivating merit"...After balancing the scale or cultivating merit however you like to term it, how much importance does your order put on internal alchemy, the transmutation of elements in the body to transform it into a vehicle of light that can travel through time and space and break the karmic cycles of death and rebirth? do you have any other insights to share on the process of attaining that?
The form of alchemy we practice are more about transforming a crude/dull mind/soul to a finer purer form, a full body/mind/soul process. Basically developing oneself spiritually, from one level to a higher level. It is not used for astral projection itself though -I assume that is waht you refer to with the "vehicle of light" etc.

We do however put lots of efforts and practice into astral projection as its own magical art though, and it is one of the more important aspects of our teachings due to its importance in regards of coming death, consciousness, and awareness.

In eastern traditions they have what they call yin shen emanations which is the ability to astral project and use the yin energy of awareness to astral travel, remote view or practice bardo states (preparing for death and remaining conscious and aware through the death process).

In Zen, Taoism and other eastern traditions though yin emanations are considered quite a low level of spiritual attainment, the zen teachers tell us to ignore the yin emanations and astral realms as it's mainly just a distraction for the mind and a hinderence for cultivating further along the spiritual path, I don't have any personal experience in the astral realms however so if the work you do in those states is helping humanity then that's a commendable achievement and goal for a tradition to work in.

The main goal of alchemy in Taoism is to develop the yang shen energy of consciousness to the point of being able to project multiple real physical bodies that are capable of interacting with the physical world. There are many recorded incidents in the Buddhist schools of teachers who were able to bilocate (be in more than two places at the same time), or projecting mind created lions or tigers to scare off over eager students from entering their schools. St Germaine was said to have achieved this level of attainment , the ability to de-materialize the physical body and re-materialize at will and in multiple locations... At this level of attainment the actual physical body becomes a vehicle of light, which is able to turn itself into a space craft that can traverse the galaxy and travel through time.

To quote a paragraph from the Greek ancient wisdoms:
"living earth organised into your abode, your body burns with the fire of life. All you need to do is be born of the water and of the spirit and if you could find the answer to this you could join the immortal men and women of other worlds within the cosmic design of our galaxy and other galaxies...that you are here to learn to organise matter and create a transmutated change in order to become immortal and use your body as a space ship to move through time and space at will...1 cubit distance of your movement in that kind of body represented 1000 years of movement through time"

Being born of the water and born of the spirit refers to the water and wind elements of the body...it's the same alchemy process as found in Taoism, Zen and even the original teachings of early Christian mystery schools...where you tansmute your jing (sexual energy/sexual fluids or waters of the body) into chi (spirit/vitality/breath) and then further refine it into shen (the energy of awareness) at which point your thoughts can actually manifest in reality via the yang shen emanations.

St Germaine called this process of alchemy becoming an immortal dragon, and encodes the rituals, magick practices and psychological processes of doing so in his triangle book, which you can see in photos with Manly P Hall. Carl Jung studied in these arts of alchemy and used it to develop his understanding and principles of shadow work. It's a tradition that dates back over 26,000 years with the building of the Bosnian pyramids and beyond, called the brotherhood of the snake that filtered down into Egypt with THoTH and his Djedi priests. As a grandmaster of a tradition I'm surprised you haven't heard of the yang shen emanation attainments of spiritual cultivation as it's readily taught over in the east, perhaps an area of spiritual work our western counterparts are sadly lagging behind in.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Can you tell us whats in Carmen's little bowl.. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28821-Remote-View-Exercise Only joking ... she hasn't replied for ages anyway. So...

I have put 3 items in a shoe box. I will look at them on the hour every hour and send you telepathically the images of them using your photo until you answer so please don't leave me waiting for ever.. lol

Sounds silly yes .. but if you nail it.


o_0 ````````````````````0_o

I'll only do it when your online.

Ski-

[mahalall]

The undercurrent of this lead me to Rudyard Kipling's, White Mans Burden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejFj8q1tuk&feature=related

thankyou

[Sierra]

This would be the Order of the Knights of Co-Creation that is your own particular family order that you rule over as the Grand Master? And this is what it has been called since 1307?

[The One]

Wow well that was a bit of a rollercoaster ride wasn’t it?

It will be interesting to see Edward what your other posts will bring

Can i also ask after seeing you on Godlike Productions are you a member of many other forums.The reasons i ask are you trying to get a message across to the wider community in relation to the issues you mention.

[Omni]

deleted post. Reading the full thread now........ :tape:

[sygh]

Some people might find this article from Edward's website an interesting read.It's titled 'The Trap System'


The Trap System - Secrets never before revealed: Why you are imprisoned in a physical body,Reptilians,Higher Soul,Creation Of Our Existence

Article link: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

cheers

Interestingly enough, when I try to access your site, as listed anywhere above, I get a feed, and then, I'm knocked off with a message that IE can't pull up the site. Probably a technical glitch.

[Ultima Thule]

Well spoken Omniverse. - draw that back due to Omni deleting.. - .esrevinmO nekops lleW... ;-)

And Ewdard - thanks for your reply to my last post, it was informative and helped me see where you are coming from.

What we are then going towards in your view is something like this: we are trapped and tricked into believing there is mission here and development to be made, which kind of makes us willful prisoners?
How do you figure what Michael Newton has come up with some thousands of subjects that recall in hypnosis the time between lives where they design their future endeavors and arrangements and agreements for their next incarnation - do you feel that is an another level of the trap, a level of matrix if you will? I´m not agreeing with you or disagreeing, let´s just see these issues from different perspectives for conversations sake.

And yes, there are things in the way you express yourself that can be interpreted as being arrogant, but I am willing to consider this being normal as you are scandinavian and at least here in Finland we tend to speak quite directly compared to many other cultures and the best we can normally do when meaning to say a huge compliment about something is:"it wasn´t bad"...

Thanks Edward, your name wouldn´t happen to coincide in any way with Crowleys, would it?

UT

[Watching from Cyprus]

Now that is more like it... thank you very much Sir Edward ;-)

[Trail]

I just want to thank Edward for comming forward and especially for his patience with some members here..

[Omni]

God IS the Source obviously. The Source means the origin point of something, in other words the Source is the origin of all of existence. The Source is God. God is not some ET that's just an absurd thought that makes no sense. New Age babbling.
Clearly "the Gods" could be ET, that is how I interpreted that quote(possibly wrongly but it still holds validity IMHO). IE: The Elohim. One perspective I have of ETs is they are hands of God, if there even is a God. But of course not "God", 'the source', is not an ET in our universe IMO, at least not some normal physical ET out there. lol. I guess you could theorize that God is all of us, we are all fragments of God experiencing the multiverse. My theory as a teen was this: What would you do if you were God? Me? Well I'm not totally sure as I'm not omnipotent or anywhere near that, but I might create a bunch of variants of me's, or fragment myself into a bunch of fragments of me's, deleted my soulular and conscious memory, and uncover once again the most diverse, amazing, profound, and beautiful creation of a universe I could possibly create over a relative eternity. Experiencing it as if it was brand new :) I haven't ditched that theory. Although I have others now... In this theory, ETs could be God. But of course we may be speaking semantics here. I'm pretty sure your concepts are not near my own there, and you are speaking of a God external to the universe/multiverse. I guess that leads me to this question Mr Alexander. What is god in your view? I apologize if someone asked this question. I would prefer something complex in an anwer. No need to crit me with a wall of text, but just more complex than "the source" if you will. Thank you.

Anyway, this is not new age at all IMHO. Just like saying ETs in the past may have been interpreted as angels(and/or THE gods). Not saying there are not forms of consciousness that have transcended physical incarnations, and are purely energies in various forms that may be better summed up by the term angel. Just that I could see earth humans 1,500 years ago misdiagnosing, if you could call it that, ET beings as angels. Especially possibly interpreted as a being without a body, or an interdimensional being, due to telepathic contact not really revealing a body of the ET unless it's zaps an image into the imagination of what they look like(which they are totally capable of). Anyway I'll stop rambling.... lol. This turned from a simplistic post to a complex one.. Not a bad thing I suppose...

Your thoughts on any of this Mr Alexander?


We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves.
So you are saying we are fully developed? O.o Can you please tell me how you know this is truth as to preach it as truth? As a wise person (forget who) posted (but I will twist it[not the standard NLP of twist] in my own words possibly, i dont remember it all), everyone "knows" things, but how many really know, in other words have it proven to them, really proven to them. I am a firm believer in ONE diverse and complex universal set of truths. Of course that does not consider the grey areas of subjectivity. Obviously too many people on this planet know things, that really don't. I'm not saying this surely summarizes you Mr. Alexander. But I don't find saying we are not here to learn(at least partially) a wise, and beneficial thing to push on people... If they believe that, they might actually stop trying to learn. And that is an act of subversion in terms of the little war we have going on here on earth you say you are partaking in, the game and mindwar of planetary systems and the age old battle of ethical VS sociopath(I think those may be better than good VS evil). That is a tiny red flag for MK(preaching philosophy that acts as a subversion of the ethical side AKA the truth and the search for the truth, and learning). MK signs is a theme of this post of mine as it is one area I can offer something others may not be quite as privy to based on personal experiences(In no way am I exalting myself better at discerning reality or some sort of master to be clear in reflecting on the posts in this thread in terms of authoritative figures), however I will say I'm not clueless about the MK aspect of our society...

Saying we are not here to learn suggests we are the apex of development for soul. I don't resonate with that. I politely disagree. However I am open to you explaining how you think you know this with enough confidence to say it as fact... And do not hold an ego bias blindly to serve as stagnating my ability to see where I may be wrong when decisively shown such.

Is it true you think you were king tut? I am not saying this as a disrespect, but claiming you are a former famous person in history, especially a pharaoh, Jesus, , and people of that caliber, is a clear sign of possible MK influence. And I do know that with 100% verification. By chance were you involved in the times of Jesus too in your past life memories? Please answer that. They tried to make me think I was a pharaoh(multiple actually)... Jesus too(MK perps). I do recognize that some people actually were these people(if they existed). However if they were wise, they would keep it to themselves. I try to keep it to myself who I think its possible I may have been here if I was on this planet in past lifetimes from learning that it is tool of subversion of my testimony to a large group of people(I have stated I felt I was ET in the past based on signs on Avalon, however I don't find the people here handicapped at discerning possible deeper truths and I do not present it as fact. If you are that high caliber you can establish that name for yourself as reinvented, with no need for past life affiliations. It serves no good to mention it really in terms of glorious or spiritual leaders etc in the past, unless you want sycophants, and only discredits your material to a great many if it's someone of high caliber you are claiming to be. And that is the exact reason the MK perpetrators(mind control) use that tactic. However it is a sign in some cases one does have information of value when they try that tactic. Either that, or other things IMO like just all out smearing a certain type of information for (one purpose) predictive programming purposes. Discrediting legitimate claims by affiliation would be an agenda using that tactic.

Also, while I'm on the subject of MK, claims of pleiadian contact, is also a sign of MK activity. However nowhere near as solid as claiming to be a pharaoh in past lives. Neither is conclusive and either could essentially be true. However both are clear signs of MK that I have experiences relating to both in dealing with the MK perps. Both just up that roll of the dice by a certain %(I am not privy to that percent in an in the know' fashion, so I will not hazard a guess).

Reason they would do fake ET contact (and i know they are capable of such) is because contactees are automatically given a position of authority over reality to some onlookers. Avalon got a lot better at that with charles... That is a vector(a position of authority in delivering reality) that is desirable for MK perpetrators and the dubious PTB... I realize I'm an MK victim. I'll be the first to tell you, look out for curveballs in my posts at times, I'm on your side and have no ego clash if any of my words are ever exposed as loaded, as they really aren't MY words at all... However I catch them at a relativly high rate of frequency when they do such as far as I'm aware, and expose them without regard to stepping on my own credibility(although I do not like it). I do concede conveniently or not, that an overt MK victim is nowhere near as efficient as a covert MK victim in such things, if they are willing to reneg on their past claims they catch with subversion. I recon a decent amount of people don't have the integrity to do that(not the caliber on Avalon, just the average).... Or warn people of their own texts. I'm morally obligated to...

Anyway, forgive me for making the assumption based on your pleiadian site name, that you are an alleged contactee. Although I do believe you said you interacted with ascended masters? All the ascended masters(in their claims) I have spoken to I strongly believe were impersonations. None of the contacts I gauge of mine that have potential to be legit ETs, posed ANY SORT of label upon themselves that put themselves as higher than me or in a position of authority over me. They left that distinction up to me and said they do not want me to revere them so much it disjoints the relationship by exalting them as my superior and deluted the interactions, kind of like how celebrities like to be seen(well the non ego driven ones) just as equals and do not want to be exalted and have all the mechanics that go along with that, they are not desirable to most who are spiritually developed I tend to think, at the very most after a little while in cases where one has starving self esteem possibly. They always addressed me as an equal as a being, however I had no delusions about equality of knowledge, but they will be the first ones to tell you to never turn off your discernment and guard/critical analysis type thought in my experiences even when they speak to you, and I dont think they learned that one from buddha like I did. lol. There is no need for one to be exalted above another just because knowledge is higher. Even when I was impersonated GOD(, I spoke to him as an equal in terms of one consciousness speaking to another one consciousness, all physical or standard beings I interact with are ONE consciousness as far as I'm aware, so we are ALL equals on that level, no matter how we differ in power or knowledge. I'm wary of any source claiming to be an "ascended master", especially ones claiming that title grants them a position of authority over me.


I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations.

So you are saying reincarnations are a universal design flaw?... I'm not sure reincarnation is escaped by methods as much as it may be ascended due to development. I find that more resonating. Can you debate these claims? I would surely listen. I apologize for having this angle of skepticism if it is uncomfortable for you.... I do respect you. Nobody wants to be called a possible MK victim. That is not an attack by me to you. And I do concede you may be more right than me in discerning reality in some areas, that is possible. You wont find attacks from me. However you will find polite debate and humble bringing up of the red flags I have found....

[The One]

God IS the Source obviously. The Source means the origin point of something, in other words the Source is the origin of all of existence. The Source is God. God is not some ET that's just an absurd thought that makes no sense. New Age babbling.
Clearly "the Gods" could be ET, that is how I interpreted that quote(possibly wrongly but it still holds validity IMHO). IE: The Elohim. One perspective I have of ETs is they are hands of God, if there even is a God. But of course not "God", 'the source', is not an ET in our universe IMO, at least not some normal physical ET out there. lol. I guess you could theorize that God is all of us, we are all fragments of God experiencing the multiverse. My theory as a teen was this: What would you do if you were God? Me? Well I'm not totally sure as I'm not omnipotent or anywhere near that, but I might create a bunch of variants of me's, or fragment myself into a bunch of fragments of me's, deleted my soulular and conscious memory, and uncover once again the most diverse, amazing, profound, and beautiful creation of a universe I could possibly create over a relative eternity. Experiencing it as if it was brand new :) I haven't ditched that theory. Although I have others now... In this theory, ETs could be God. But of course we may be speaking semantics here. I'm pretty sure your concepts are not near my own there, and you are speaking of a God external to the universe/multiverse. I guess that leads me to this question Mr Alexander. What is god in your view? I apologize if someone asked this question. I would prefer something complex in an anwer. No need to crit me with a wall of text, but just more complex than "the source" if you will. Thank you.

Anyway, this is not new age at all IMHO. Just like saying ETs in the past may have been interpreted as angels(and/or THE gods). Not saying there are not forms of consciousness that have transcended physical incarnations, and are purely energies in various forms that may be better summed up by the term angel. Just that I could see earth humans 1,500 years ago misdiagnosing, if you could call it that, ET beings as angels. Especially possibly interpreted as a being without a body, or an interdimensional being, due to telepathic contact not really revealing a body of the ET unless it's zaps an image into the imagination of what they look like(which they are totally capable of). Anyway I'll stop rambling.... lol. This turned from a simplistic post to a complex one.. Not a bad thing I suppose...

Your thoughts on any of this Mr Alexander?


We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves.
So you are saying we are fully developed? O.o Can you please tell me how you know this is truth as to preach it as truth? As a wise person (forget who) posted (but I will twist it[not the standard NLP of twist] in my own words possibly, i dont remember it all), everyone "knows" things, but how many really know, in other words have it proven to them, really proven to them. I am a firm believer in ONE diverse and complex universal set of truths. Of course that does not consider the grey areas of subjectivity. Obviously too many people on this planet know things, that really don't. I'm not saying this surely summarizes you Mr. Alexander. But I don't find saying we are not here to learn(at least partially) a wise, and beneficial thing to push on people... If they believe that, they might actually stop trying to learn. And that is an act of subversion in terms of the little war we have going on here on earth you say you are partaking in, the game and mindwar of planetary systems and the age old battle of ethical VS sociopath(I think those may be better than good VS evil). That is a tiny red flag for MK(preaching philosophy that acts as a subversion of the ethical side AKA the truth and the search for the truth, and learning). MK signs is a theme of this post of mine as it is one area I can offer something others may not be quite as privy to based on personal experiences(In no way am I exalting myself better at discerning reality or some sort of master to be clear in reflecting on the posts in this thread in terms of authoritative figures), however I will say I'm not clueless about the MK aspect of our society...

Saying we are not here to learn suggests we are the apex of development for soul. I don't resonate with that. I politely disagree. However I am open to you explaining how you think you know this with enough confidence to say it as fact... And do not hold an ego bias blindly to serve as stagnating my ability to see where I may be wrong when decisively shown such.

Is it true you think you were king tut? I am not saying this as a disrespect, but claiming you are a former famous person in history, especially a pharaoh, Jesus, , and people of that caliber, is a clear sign of possible MK influence. And I do know that with 100% verification. By chance were you involved in the times of Jesus too in your past life memories? Please answer that. They tried to make me think I was a pharaoh(multiple actually)... Jesus too(MK perps). I do recognize that some people actually were these people(if they existed). However if they were wise, they would keep it to themselves. I try to keep it to myself who I think its possible I may have been here if I was on this planet in past lifetimes from learning that it is tool of subversion of my testimony to a large group of people(I have stated I felt I was ET in the past based on signs on Avalon, however I don't find the people here handicapped at discerning possible deeper truths and I do not present it as fact. If you are that high caliber you can establish that name for yourself as reinvented, with no need for past life affiliations. It serves no good to mention it really in terms of glorious or spiritual leaders etc in the past, unless you want sycophants, and only discredits your material to a great many if it's someone of high caliber you are claiming to be. And that is the exact reason the MK perpetrators(mind control) use that tactic. However it is a sign in some cases one does have information of value when they try that tactic. Either that, or other things IMO like just all out smearing a certain type of information for (one purpose) predictive programming purposes. Discrediting legitimate claims by affiliation would be an agenda using that tactic.

Also, while I'm on the subject of MK, claims of pleiadian contact, is also a sign of MK activity. However nowhere near as solid as claiming to be a pharaoh in past lives. Neither is conclusive and either could essentially be true. However both are clear signs of MK that I have experiences relating to both in dealing with the MK perps. Both just up that roll of the dice by a certain %(I am not privy to that percent in an in the know' fashion, so I will not hazard a guess).

Reason they would do fake ET contact (and i know they are capable of such) is because contactees are automatically given a position of authority over reality to some onlookers. Avalon got a lot better at that with charles... That is a vector(a position of authority in delivering reality) that is desirable for MK perpetrators and the dubious PTB... I realize I'm an MK victim. I'll be the first to tell you, look out for curveballs in my posts at times, I'm on your side and have no ego clash if any of my words are ever exposed as loaded, as they really aren't MY words at all... However I catch them at a relativly high rate of frequency when they do such as far as I'm aware, and expose them without regard to stepping on my own credibility(although I do not like it). I do concede conveniently or not, that an overt MK victim is nowhere near as efficient as a covert MK victim in such things, if they are willing to reneg on their past claims they catch with subversion. I recon a decent amount of people don't have the integrity to do that(not the caliber on Avalon, just the average).... Or warn people of their own texts. I'm morally obligated to...

Anyway, forgive me for making the assumption based on your pleiadian site name, that you are an alleged contactee. Although I do believe you said you interacted with ascended masters? All the ascended masters(in their claims) I have spoken to I strongly believe were impersonations. None of the contacts I gauge of mine that have potential to be legit ETs, posed ANY SORT of label upon themselves that put themselves as higher than me or in a position of authority over me. They left that distinction up to me and and said they do not want me to revere them so much it disjoints the relationship by exalting them as my superior as one consciousness. They always addressed me as an equal as a being, however I had no delusions about equality of knowledge, but they will be the first ones to tell you to never turn off your discernment and guard/critical analysis type thought in my experiences even when they speak to you, and I dont think they learned that one from buddha like I did. lol. There is no need for one to be exalted above another just because knowledge is higher. Even when I was impersonated GOD(, I spoke to him as an equal in terms of one consciousness speaking to another one consciousness, all physical or standard beings I interact with are ONE consciousness as far as I'm aware, so we are ALL equals on that level, no matter how we differ in power or knowledge. I'm wary of any source claiming to be an "ascended master", especially ones claiming that title grants them a position of authority over me.


I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations.

So you are saying reincarnations are a universal design flaw?... I'm not sure reincarnation is escaped by methods as much as it may be ascended due to development. I find that more resonating. Can you debate these claims? I would surely listen. I apologize for having this angle of skepticism if it is uncomfortable for you.... I do respect you. Nobody wants to be called a possible MK victim. That is not an attack by me to you. And I do concede you may be more right than me in discerning reality in some areas, that is possible. You wont find attacks from me. However you will find polite debate and humble bringing up of the red flags I have found....

Brilliant great post

[cellardoor]

I always miss the good discussions, this has been a great read. I'm hoping that you will return to answer some more questions Edward. So I will post mine now.

You say that you practice the spiritual aspect of hermetic Alchemy, do you have any knowledge of the physical evolution of matter, like for instance the existence of the philosophers stone? I read recently a book called the age of Aquarius. Can you add any verification to this secret? I read Ascended master St Germain attained the stone, is this just myth or is there any truth in it? I would love to hear your input on this subject. You are a brave and courageous soul, many blessing to you.

[BMJ]

Hi Guys,
I never was interested in the Charles material, one post in all the threads and basically ignored him otherwise and the material I even watched the interview with Bill, he seemed dodgy. Charles didn't sit well with me.

I would not compare Edward to Charles, chalk & cheese guys.

But this guy has me interested he is selling positivity in many forms and its all for free. I like his character, motive and ethics.

Thank you Edward Alexander for your thoughts.

To Edward.
Yet again thank you Edward Alexander for your thoughts. I personally wasn't aware of these orders of good people, I always associated wrongly the occult with evil, (my ignorance). Similiarly to your people I have personally been trying all my life to live by similiar ethics and trying to help people as best I could.
Until I came across Camelot and Avalon I felt I pretty much alone in that I was living a positive life amongst a world of negativity.
After reading your posts I feel refreshed by the fact your people are fighting the good fight, I am feeling more positive about the future knowing you and your people are there, along with my brothers here in Avalon.

No need to respond Edward I just wanted to convey my thanks.

[Omni]

I hope you don't take my post as negative Edward. I do have a thirst for knowledge about good secret societies. As my thread here states:
What are some good secret societies (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28644-What-are-some-good-secret-societies)

Was kind of synchronistic you posted this thread shortly after I made a thread asking about good secret societies. You certainly seem to have a lot of information. I am capable of debating or looking at any angle of possibility of this at this time. I have not checked every page in this thread.

I do have one question I am curious about. Why did you hold back the name of your secret society to us, if you had already created a blog about it? That is one event that turned me onto the angle of perception in looking for flaws, rather than defending you as my edited deleted post had before that was brought to my attention. I do think you deserve respect regardless.

I do have more questions.

Are the older, far more senior members opposed to your decision about making the SS publicly known? You said you answer to no one. Fair enough. But don't you respect others opinion, especially members that have been active since before you were born?

Isn't it more typical to be appointed that once you have learned close to if not more than the other senior members, and have you reached that point? Would you respect any of them if they voiced to you before you went public, if they had said their desires to you that they did not want you to go public?

Did you seek any council from more senior members on becoming public?

Do you have access to a history of earth, that has been documented since the 1300s? This is the type of thing I would be doing if I was a grandmaster of a secret society...

Do you have any information about the true happenings and livings of Jesus?

Do you have anything new to tell us about the knights templar?

What can you tell us about the life of tut that is not documented history?

How long by your knowledge have secret societies had interaction with beings claiming to be ascended masters and such?

Have you had contacts with beings claiming to be Pleiadian? If so, how long has this contact been around in your SS?

Can you cite any old texts worth looking into, that speak of ET interaction?

Do you have any tidbits of useful information to offer that is not liable to be misused?

What are your views on Archangel Michael, Rafael, etc? Do they exist?

What can you tell us about dark entities, and how to transcend their power over us?

And again, I am not saying you ARE an MK target. I just had to note those possibilities. However I do wonder what you plan on doing should such a targeting happen to you?

Are you aware of mind control capabilities? And what are those capabilities by your knowledge?

What can you tell me about black project technology? Any knowledge there?

What can you tell me about the Anunnaki? Maybe something we don't know?

Thanks. I respect you spending your time here. I hope you don't see me bringing up flags(that may be coincidental) as disrespectful.

[The One]

I just want to say you are all my brothers and sisters and i want to thank the creator or whatever it is for that.

Fat,thin,tall,small,young old we are all special.I am no better than you and you are no better than me.We are equal.Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.

And remember some advice is good and debatable thats what makes us great.But don't follow any advice, no matter how good, until you feel as deeply in your spirit as you think in your mind that the counsel is wise.It is astonishing with how little wisdom mankind can be governed, when that little wisdom is its own and also remember nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[motherlove]

Thank you for your posts Edward. I have not heard of you or your website prior to this thread so my information is not in anyway colored by your information. What you have contributed so far has value for those who can hear what you say. Your article on the trap system in regard to reincarnation has merit IMHO as I have in the past year or so been getting information as well in regard to the subject. Best Wishes.

[Mandala]

What is your group's present agenda?
To heal rebalance the world , its population, bring forth truths, insights, and experiences through direct practice.
Reveal the Inner Self, Shift the State of Mind to the most beneficial positive, Learn people to heal themselves and others, teach them powerful meditations for a variety of effects and goals,
Make people experience their Soul, and soultravel, teach them to navigate the after-life, help them get in touch with benevolent beings and entities, evocations, invocations,
Create and anchor a positive mindset, transmute negative energies to positive, convert emotions from a bad state to a good state, maintain constant inner peace and calm
Make people learn the ways to achieve their positive goals, and reach their dreams, attract only great things in life and shield of the negative, physical perfection & training
Balance between Body, Mind, Soul - Energy Work and the ability to send energy from any part of the body to any other part, make healing energy balls
Rituals for cleansing, grounding, consecration, shielding, energy charging, energy release, kundalini raising, connecting with the cosmos
Create astral worlds and entities for beneficial and good purposes, to help oneself or others, get to know and communicate with different entities
Useful increase for intuition, tools to use along with intuition to obtain answers on questions or find objects, pendulum dowsing, tarot
Remote Viewing, Telepathy, Using Will and Intention to either attract animals, or repel them away, psychokinesis
Reiki Healing, Kundalini Reiki Healing, Kuthumi Reiki Healing
Healing System of the Great White Brotherhood



Who is politically aware of your group?
Probably not many considering its not been public for long.



Does your group steer future events, and if so where do you see earth/humans going?
Earth, some more natural disasters and other problems coming soon, economic collaps, riots, troubles, fire in the sky, electroshock



What do you know of ascension, upgrading of our DNA/ race and earth's evolution?
Only way to ascend is by discarding the physical body. Thus, through Death, and that must be done by maintaining awareness and consciousness through the whole process.




What is the truth about astronomical events foretold about comets, Nibiru, earth changes?
Relates to the question #2 from above - earth moving, floods, volcano, storms, earthquakes, sky phenomena ,



Has your group always been aware of coming events and do you think humanity has a right to know?
Yes, we give out warnings when we will it is something of a magnitude that could pose a danger

Hope you can enlighten us. Thank you. Mandala

Cheers

Thank you for taking the time to respond. i shall ponder your answers.

Could you explain more about 'electroshock'? Does fire in the sky refer to CMEs or is it meteor or asteroid related? Also, do you believe there will be a crustal displacement and pole shift/flip. Thank you again, Mandala

[Edward Alexander]

Hello everyone. Sorry for not being able to reply as fast as you post here, but I will do my best to respond to each and every one of you as time allows me.

I see there is a lot of posts since last time I logged in so I got my hands full for a while to reply to you all.

For now, you can take a look at the first public announcement of the order, which was back in May, 2010. Some information was posted on my website here:
http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2010/04/announcing-existence-of-our-order-ordo.html

I will get back to answer your posts soon.

ILS

[ktlight]

Hi AE, I wonder why you speak in terms of what' should be' as opposed to what is, which is the real issue facing humanity.

[passiglight]

Hi alexaner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




Can you confirm that Atlantis exists in another dimension here on or near or above earth ?

No, Atlantis is actually the americas. Latin America. I'm a hobby archeologist and researcher of history and lost civilizations, so I've been around some uncovering the truth.
Here is my website with a brief introduction on my discoveries:
http://www.americanatlantis.com/
- I got large amounts of more material and different type of evidence, just didnt get to publish it yet. Among other things evidence for trading route between South America and Egypt, and other travelers going to Americas thousands of years before Colombos. Will try update ti sometime soon.



Are you aware of the Racogzy bloodline ?

No never heard of it.



Are you aware of the House of Hesse and what does this mean spiritually to you ?

No can't say I'm familiar with that.



Are you aware of the AB bloodline and can you enlarge on the topic ?

I have heard some conspiracy theories on this, personally I've never seen anything supporting those claims. My opinion is that its just bs.



What colour are your eyes ?

My eyes are green.



have you took advice or sought discussion as to your reasons for delivering your work here and now and if you did was this from an off world being or entitiy ?

No, i decided to present my story on my own. It is time for the Order to be known to the public, as it may be of historical interest to some.




Are you aware of comet elenin ?

Yes I'm very aware of Elenin, and I now the secret about it thanks to myself being member of various secret occult orders. I wrote the truth about Elenin some time back, and as far I know I'm the first and only one that have reported and discovered this, it is of immense proportions, so check:
http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/08/as-many-of-us-know-by-now-comet-called.html



do you have an opinion on whether comet elenin is a craft or IA craft from Magen David ?

No I don't think it is any craft. See my article linked above.




Why do you refer to Source as God and why do you think the word God has been so readily applied to just about every ET 4/5 dimensional being with some catchy gadget that befuddles men at every level of consciousness ?
God IS the Source obviously. The Source means the origin point of something, in other words the Source is the origin of all of existence. The Source is God. God is not some ET that's just an absurd thought that makes no sense. New Age babbling. Everything exists WITHIN the Mind of GOD - God can only be that which is the most outer of all, since all of existence itself must be within God, and only God can exist outside Everything - Everything is Mental, and we all exist in the Mind of God.




What does the energy we call LOVE mean to you ?
It is a positive and healing energy, but people should not be obsessed about love or think it is the answer to all problems.

Cosmic love

thank you for taking the time to reply to my post and some of the questions,,,,,,,,,,,

You are joking right ???

obviously my interaction with yourself will end here,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love

[Edward Alexander]

Hi alexaner,

You are joking right ???

obviously my interaction with yourself will end here,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love

No I'm not joking. Not sure why you got offended, I merely answered the questions you asked me.

But go well, take care

-EA

[christian]

By acknowledging you as some sort of master, everyone here is transferring power and authority to you, and justifying your claims to be holding secret information that you can not reveal because we are unworthy and unable to comprehend.

Edward might be the head of this quaint club, I can ackowledge that without giving away anything, because we are all masters, I give that credit to everybody including myself, that's absolute empowerment, titles and regalia in the 3d are just dust in the wind.

All is one, for everyone, who can see that and take advantage of that fact, there are no secrets anyways, so what?

If someone hasn't figured that out yet, I'd be cautious too with how much I reveal to such a person, just like I wouldn't give a 3 year-old my car key. Or how would Joe Sixpack benefit from an exercise in astral projection? "Cool, I can go to the ladie's shower". :biggrin1:

Anyways Lazlo, I appreciate your reminder, not to put any head above one's own.

[christian]

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.

From Dolores Cannon's books I got the concept of imprints. That means, while on the spirit side, one can choose to have an imprint of a particular lifetime, that is usually used if one hasn't been on earth before or if one is supposed to do an important mission, on which the imprint might be beneficial. It's allegedly pretty much impossible to tell afterwards, whether a regressed past life was 'real' or an imprint.

[Sierra]

You have acknowledged that you were King Tut. There are many who believe they were King Tut. Is there only one King Tut or are there many... from your perspective please.

From Dolores Cannon's books I got the concept of imprints. That means, while on the spirit side, one can choose to have an imprint of a particular lifetime, that is usually used if one hasn't been on earth before or if one is supposed to do an important mission, on which the imprint might be beneficial. It's allegedly pretty much impossible to tell afterwards, whether a regressed past life was 'real' or an imprint.

Chinaski, such good news from Chiquetet! Since *we* of Avalon have thanked you, obviously you *have* been thanked by many King Tut(s) (smirk) and your resume is now golden(er).

[Edward Alexander]

I do not consider myself any master, or guru, or any such thing. I dont consider myself more worthy than anyone else. We are ALL Masters and Students. I may have some insights on some topics that some of you may not have, that I can teach you, and all of you certainly have insights on topics I do not know anything about, which you could teach me.

We're all equal, I do not ask you to treat me in any other way than you would with any other common person. I am not here to be glorified, I'm here to share information that may be beneficial for you.

Now, i got some errands to run, but I will be back to respond to those posts I didnt get to yet, and do feel free to ask me questions that may be of some practical use, to help or assist you in any way, that is my purpose for being here. I already stated in some posts back what my Order's agenda is, some details were given in this specific post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got-introduced-to-the-world-of-Occultism&p=296771&viewfull=1#post296771

ILS

[christian]

Ritual magic is the most basic, mind magic the most advanced, you have it backwards.

The Vikings weren't a people it was an activity.

My question was symbolic and would be recognised by anyone who was what you claim to be or even a decent level Mason.

Oh and re your video. You claim to have seen the egyptian pyramids being built when you were Tut but they were built long before him.

You don't actually give information you just describe it. I am this, we do that. Labels and introductions but no content.

Epic fail Edward.

It's good, not to be gullible, but in fear of being lied to, sometimes there is a tendency to be overly critical. Let's see, if there is a possibility, to view the statements from Edward's (supposing he is who he says he is) point of view.

He doesn't say rituals are more advanced than mind magic. Mind magic is basic, because it's pure, one could argue and surely more advanced when done by someone who knows, what he's doing. If you are new to all of this, you might be more effective in perfoming a ritual than in using your mind in a creative way, that's a point one could make in favor of starting with rituals.

I guess it's not a crime to call the people, who were involved in the 'Viking activity' vikings. They are commonly called that. C'mon.

The pyramid/sphere answer seems odd to me, too, but then again, I have not been walking in his shoes, it might just be showing, that he is not as knowlegdeable about this as you might suppose.

Seeing the construction of the pyramids of Egypt as King Tut is indeed an epic fail. But then again, this is so stupid. Could it be a reference to maintenance work or to a smaller pyramid in his backyard? :biggrin1:

[Fred Steeves]

I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

I would not agree to the above. You are of course free to believe that, but i can't see that what you describe will happen. I'm working with some higher orders myself, such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide, have not seen anything in either of those places, nor by my own intuition either, supporting what you just said. Then again , speaking of picking fruit, thats a fair analogy of what members do when joining the Order as well.



Hi Edward, I'm not surprised that you don't agree there, and that's o.k. mate. This IS happening though, whether any orders, brotherhoods, spirit guides, whatever, see it or not. Without a good solid humbling experience in this life, it's unlikely one would be attuned to resonate with such a phenomena. I would invite you to shed the grand master trimmings, and assume the role of humble student.

Or, you can continue the way of stubborn souls like me and it will eventually be done for you...Either way works...:yes4:

Cheers,
Fred

[Sierra]

Hi Edward, I'm not surprised that you don't agree there, and that's o.k. mate. This IS happening though, whether any orders, brotherhoods, spirit guides, whatever, see it or not. Without a good solid humbling experience in this life, it's unlikely one would be attuned to resonate with such a phenomena. I would invite you to shed the grand master trimmings, and assume the role of humble student.

Or, you can continue the way of stubborn souls like me and it will eventually be done for you...Either way works...:yes4:

Cheers,
Fred

Fred, I dore you. :kiss:

Fellow stubborn soul Sierra :wave:

[Sierra]

Hi alexaner,

You are joking right ???

obviously my interaction with yourself will end here,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love

No I'm not joking. Not sure why you got offended, I merely answered the questions you asked me.

But go well, take care

-EA

Still unclear ... oh well.

On the other hand dude, you gave a THANKS to Chinaski (good choice by the way, Chinaski is very respected around here), congratulations and welcome to Avalon Edward! One item taken off the list of my flags...

Sierra laughing her fool head off again :wave:

[christian]

We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves.
So you are saying we are fully developed? O.o Can you please tell me how you know this is truth as to preach it as truth?

Saying we are not here to learn suggests we are the apex of development for soul. I don't resonate with that. I politely disagree. However I am open to you explaining how you think you know this with enough confidence to say it as fact... And do not hold an ego bias blindly to serve as stagnating my ability to see where I may be wrong when decisively shown such.

I agree with what both of you stated, I figure it's semantics. We are all in the mind of God and God cannot be improved. Hence we are not meant to improve but to be able to express all the potential of God and get rid of our limitations, which could be called a development, whatever... It's about experiencing, from what I've heard :biggrin1:




I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations.

So you are saying reincarnations are a universal design flaw?

Buddha talks about breaking free from the wheel of Karma and reincarnation. Information about how the current system struggles to keep people within that cycle and oblivious to greater truths is legion. How do you get the idea, that he suggests reincarnation is a design flaw?

[Deedee]

http://youtu.be/VlQw-wE-VTk

4.20 secs in.

You say that desire is a lower level existential matter. What I see missing in people's life is a "lack of desire". A lack of desire to even want to know who they are. I trust desire. Your sharing of your knowledge is appreciated. We all have information that we wish to share with others and we do on this site and others. Your message primarily in this particular video (from my perspective) projects that this is a prison planet and we are trapped. I wish to remind you that we are not "victims" here.

http://youtu.be/xYo-mvd5idI

Here at 2min 50 in you then suggest that we "desire" to connect with our higher self and so there is some contradiction here in your information. On one hand you say that desire is lower level and on the other hand you suggest that desire is one of the keys. The problem today Edward is that good information is generated but also mixed in with some dis-information and confusion and this is where we as humanity must find our own "discernment"... Thanks for sharing.

[WhiteFeather]

http://youtu.be/VlQw-wE-VTk

4.20 secs in.

You say that desire is a lower level existential matter. What I see missing in people's life is a "lack of desire". A lack of desire to even want to know who they are. I trust desire. Your sharing of your knowledge is appreciated. We all have information that we wish to share with others and we do on this site and others. Your message primarily in this particular video (from my perspective) projects that this is a prison planet and we are trapped. I wish to remind you that we are not "victims" here.

http://youtu.be/xYo-mvd5idI

Here at 2min 50 in you then suggest that we "desire" to connect with our higher self and so there is some contradiction here in your information. On one hand you say that desire is lower level and on the other hand you suggest that desire is one of the keys. The problem today Edward is that good information is generated but also mixed in with some dis-information and confusion and this is where we as humanity must find our own "discernment"... Thanks for sharing.

Nice DeeDee - Let it be known Avalonians, The Light Is Consuming The Dark As We Speak and The Light is exposing all the key players that were hidden in the room. The false system is falling apart very quickly. Can't you just feel it crumbling. I know i can. :bounce:

[Mike]

Hi alexaner,

You are joking right ???

obviously my interaction with yourself will end here,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love

No I'm not joking. Not sure why you got offended, I merely answered the questions you asked me.

But go well, take care

-EA

Still unclear ... oh well.

On the other hand dude, you gave a THANKS to Chinaski (good choice by the way, Chinaski is very respected around here), congratulations and welcome to Avalon Edward! One item taken of the list off my flags...

Sierra laughing her fool head off again :wave:

can you believe i was able to get that "thanks" Sierra??? ;) i just get so much satisfaction from staring at that "1" next to Edward's thanks meter that i selfishly hope he thanks nobody else! lol!

no but seriously i just wanted to see if Edward had a sense of humor is all. you passed the test Edward! it doesn't make you a 33rd degree Avalonian or anything like that, but it does prove you can laugh at yourself a bit. well played.

[christian]

@Deedee

The buddhists have many differents words and concepts for desire, it's easy to see how desire can be something that bears pain and how it can be something, that paves the way to enlightenment, depending on what is desired and why it is desired.

[Unified Serenity]

[QUOTE=Chinaski;297354no but seriously i just wanted to see if Edward had a sense of humor is all. you passed the test Edward! it doesn't make you a 33rd degree Avalonian or anything like that, but it does prove you can laugh at yourself a bit. well played.[/QUOTE]

I wanna join the Avalonian 33rd degree club! I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

[Fred Steeves]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:

[Ria]

Sierra, I think your being a we bit naughty,
I have you know I have met a number of King Tut(s)
And I have it, on good authority I am his mother.
Now what is the name Queen Nef-of, Nefatiti, my spelling is hopeless.

[Deedee]

@Deedee

The buddhists have many differents words and concepts for desire, it's easy to see how desire can be something that bears pain and how it can be something, that paves the way to enlightenment, depending on what is desired and why it is desired.

Indeed it is not just buddhists that have many different words and concepts for desire. I can only speak for myself here when talking about desire. Desire does not bring me pain but joy. When I desire to read I just pick up a book and read... desire fulfilled in that moment.

[Unified Serenity]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:

Nearly spit out my soup on that one Fred. Such a naughty bunch we are. Hmmm, let's see, what perks does a 33rd level Avalonian get me?

[Swanette]

We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves.
So you are saying we are fully developed? O.o Can you please tell me how you know this is truth as to preach it as truth?

Saying we are not here to learn suggests we are the apex of development for soul. I don't resonate with that. I politely disagree. However I am open to you explaining how you think you know this with enough confidence to say it as fact... And do not hold an ego bias blindly to serve as stagnating my ability to see where I may be wrong when decisively shown such.

I agree with what both of you stated, I figure it's semantics. We are all in the mind of God and God cannot be improved. Hence we are not meant to improve but to be able to express all the potential of God and get rid of our limitations, which could be called a development, whatever... It's about experiencing, from what I've heard :biggrin1:




I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations.

So you are saying reincarnations are a universal design flaw?

Buddha talks about breaking free from the wheel of Karma and reincarnation. Information about how the current system struggles to keep people within that cycle and oblivious to greater truths is legion. How do you get the idea, that he suggests reincarnation is a design flaw?


Thank you, I also have found that info resonates with me. Based on other peoples teachings/works, I have just recently discovered this. That we are from Source and it is already perfect so because we are already perfect (but don't realize it) many of us are now learning how to rise up, or vibrate up to another level to break free from the cycle of reincarnation and Karma.

[Edward Alexander]

I will try get to respond to some posts now since I'm back for a while. Gets a bit difficult when people are posting so much stuff that is completely off-topic and starting new discussions about such etc, lots of pages here but a large amount of it all is off the topic.

Now I'm not some grumpy fellow, I have no problem with people disagreeing with anything I say, or calling me a liar or worse, or for various reasons being directly angry and furious at me, name-calling etc. I don't take such personally. For me such only tells me something about those kind of people and is just a quiet observation. This is a serious topic though, as far I am concerned, and if someone want to discuss it intelligently and with some decency that would be appreciated. Any questions are also welcome, as I mentioned a bit earlier, since one of the main reasons for me being here is to see if I can offer you anything practical and useful that can be of your benefit.

Cheers

[Deedee]

Edward,

It's not just about us asking you questions and you giving (your) answers. You said yourself that you do not know everything and that you can learn also from us. Let us learn together and put the ego aside. You say this is a serious topic. Perhaps Charles said the same thing too.. it doesn't much matter though, many people on this forum have already been around that block and some may want to go there again. A question for you... Can you enjoy the simple pleasures in this life such as an epsom salt bubblebath... a candlelight dinner with a friend or loved one... the simple satisfaction of drying down your doggie after she or he has swam happily in the pool for an hour.... Acknowledging and appreciating the morning sun... noticing when you hear a bird chirp how your senses have become heightened... Now you may consider this to be "off topic".. but I have no desire to commune with you on facebook or anywhere else for that matter. You are here and so are we.. so let's "dance" shall we?

[Camilo]

In all honesty I don't see why we should believe anything you're saying, much less how it can be of benefit to anyone here. Secrecy has been the mother of all misunderstandings and bad intentioned acts against humanity. First come clean and say what are you real intentions and how is any of what you are saying be of benefit to anyone at all?......if you really want to come clean bring it all out, not just what you wish or think is appropriate.

[thunder24]

how many of your order are on Avalon Edward A.?

Have you remotely viewed or jumped in to any of avalon's minds to see where we are conscious wise, what we do?

peace

[enfoldedblue]

Ha ha ha it's funny because many years ago I was told by someone that I had been King Tut...no joke!. But what I have come to understand is that we are all arrangements of energy. Right now I am an arrangement of energy that is called Christy Lavers...this is my place of learning ATM..but eventually my consciousness will leave this arrangement and move into another energy arrangement. However the energy arrangement that is called CL will not cease to exist when I move on (because it is not me...I am just consciousness...pure and simple)...it will always be there...available to anyone who has something to learn from this CL vibration. Likely in other timelines/realms there are other energies animating the CL vibration. To me the CL vibration is a bit like a costume that that I can wear that allows me to experience the world in the flavour of CL. In the same way historical figures (well really everyone) are costumes that can be animated by our energies. Because of this it is not only possible, but rather likely, that many people have worn the same costume. Anyway I hope this makes some sense to some...it is very difficult to speak about this because of its fluid nature.

PS I agree with Fred and Sierra.... the veils have dissolved and the time of secrecy is over...all is there for anyone willing to look...no need for teaching from outside sources anymore...it's all right there.
LOVE ALLways, c

[Rosco1]

edward

How about revealing a 'Powerful Positive Ritual' of your secret group that would benefit humanity against the tyrants and elites of the world ?

Surely if you did reveal this then more people that practice this ritual, the more chance we would have of success of a peaceful and enlightened world to live in.

Bet you won't tell us though!

[Poly Hedra]

Hey Edward, Hope your keeping well. This may be a long shot but I'll give it a go, do you have information about using visual symbols and sounds to help me/people unblock, and use them in my video work to do the same for others?

All the best.

[Deedee]

@ Edward As an Order it has maintained itself more or less unknown to the public, and very few have had the privilege of being a member through all these hundreds of years it has existed since it was founded. In fact, it rarely had more than a couple hundred members in total alive at the same time. But, its purpose was not to keep the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work away from the public, but rather the opposite, its work was to spread such to those people around them, in the gentlest ways and through philosophical discussions and participation in various arts and influencing different other orders and societies of the time.

Since very few have had the "priviledge" of being a member throughout all these years and the purpose of the Order being to spread the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work then please tell why it's a "priviledge" to be in the Order. Are there some secret free "sexy" benefits to being a Member? I believe it all happens.. One Mind at a time... Upon reflection and on one level it could look as if the reason this privileged Order became enacted was to spread dis-information to capture the steering of the Minds of society in one direction or another... what's that called again? Ah yes.. Sheeple as in let's "herd the cattle"... and bring them "over here". A simple concept I admit but a concept nevertheless.

[Edward Alexander]

In all honesty I don't see why we should believe anything you're saying, much less how it can be of benefit to anyone here. Secrecy has been the mother of all misunderstandings and bad intentioned acts against humanity. First come clean and say what are you real intentions and how is any of what you are saying be of benefit to anyone at all?......if you really want to come clean bring it all out, not just what you wish or think is appropriate.

I already stated in some posts back what my Order's agenda is, and this is the second time I have to tell it again - some details were given in this specific post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got-introduced-to-the-world-of-Occultism&p=296771&viewfull=1#post296771

[Edward Alexander]

Are you implying that we are all being constantly controlled and monitored by 'the matrix' or 'the trap system' through direct mind control from a higher dimensional AI construct or a higher dimensional entity or a combination of astral entities/parasites ?

Or is it possibly a combination of indirect mind control via conditioning for the masses and a more direct form of mind control for the elite ?

Also in your opinion how is the Trap System constructed from a 3d perspective ?

I suspect that what the negative higher dimensional controllers fear most is the 'Collective Consciousness' rising or becoming more awakened.Exactly what appears to be happening right now.Interesting times ahead.

cheers

Yes, we are constantly controlled and manipulated through many different means, methods and sources. I wrote an article specifically on this subject and posted it in this forum some time back. You can read it here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26979-External-Influences-on-your-Mind-Body-an-introduction

It's fairly long and detailed taking all the different methods and influences I'm aware of into consideration. I'd quote it here if it wasnt so long, so better just go there and read it and see if you find it any useful or insightful.

Regarding the construction of the Trap System from a 3d perspective, I am not completely sure what you mean. It is not a physical structure, though it covers the physical world, and it is constructed in the astral planes. It can be interacted with from the Physical world, through various practices such as magic and rituals, astral projection etc.

[Edward Alexander]

[QUOTE=Edward Alexander;296309]
Thanks for your posts bro. One question that's intrigued me, and I'm assuming you're able to answer it, given you're in the "know", is that, would it be correct to say that the Luciferien Soul Complex was ordered by "The Council" in agreement with Yahweh to be the catalyst or more specifically, the negative cataylst that would challenge and exten how we played out this so called cosmic "game" to determine the type/level of density the individual soul would "shift" to, as we go through these so called coming "changes"?
Would it be fact that once one knows or finally wakes up to this "game" collectively and for reasons unbeknown to most, that it would change our whole perspective in what we think is the mystery of life - that we are and always have been one with creator and amongst ourselves?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks :)

No, I've not seen any indications on what you suggest regarding some agreement with Luciferian Soul Complex and "The Council" along with Yahweh. It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

But yes, once you wake up and realize your true being and the levels of existence, it will change your whole perspective and make you understand and see things the way they really are. This will also make you able to finally "develop" and move on to the next levels of existence and mysteries that awaits you there. We are indeed always connected with the Source (God) and eachother, though this is not necessarily something one would be consciously aware of

[ponda]

I meant from your perspective.

So it is a higher dimensional construct ? is it alive or aware of itself ? Is it controlled and by what ?

Thanks for answering the q's

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Only one question
Where do I sign up?
Feel free to send me a message.
I'll make my judgement calls once I'm on the other side of this wall.

[Decibellistics]

So mote it be lol

What is the next existence?

Is the jist of what you are saying more or less Multi-Dimensionality.

[aranuk]

Edward you said that you do not sell anything but your website sells astrology,tarot, services for $60 a go. Are you here to drum up some business for yourself? Are things getting expensive in Argentina for you and your girlfriend?

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

I'm Starting to get a bad taste in my mouth now, first the smell and now the taste. My spider senses are starting to tingle. This is starting to turn into an Atticus-Charles fiasco.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk

[72MAV27]

hey Edward. whats up?
i read your original post and the first page of peoples questions. so i'm not sure if this was asked. but if it was i'll go back and find the answer

ok. so what i'm wondering is what kind of knowledge, rituals or techniques did the "renegade" members who left the orders and pretty much run the world right now take? it seems like if they are just a small handfull of deserters they shouldn't be a problem for all of the well intentioned enlightened members to handle. especially since the "good guys" must have the same knowledge as the "bad guys".

or are they just allowing them to keep power for a higher purpose?

[Edward Alexander]

Edward you said that you do not sell anything but your website sells astrology,tarot, services for $60 a go. Are you here to drum up some business for yourself? Are things getting expensive in Argentina for you and your girlfriend?

Stan

Since I answered a similar question elsewhere just a minute ago I will copy that answer over to you here:

I can tell you that what I'm doing have nothing to do with money, and I implemented this donation feature so people who feel like it can contribute with something that will go directly towards the maintenance and hosting service of the website etc. It is there as a way for people to be able to give something back towards the work I do, simply because a few people enjoy to contribute to work they support and find useful. I am not making any money on that, nor do I need to make any money from this work as I already am the president of a company that is doing very well and brings me more money than I have an actual use for. As far as the services I have available, the only reason I charge for this is due to all the work, time and efforts that must be put into it, in turn making me unable to focus on or participate in anything else while doing that - such services takes generally 2 full days of work for one person and is very detailed and complex. People sent me too much requests for doing such for them, since I used to do it for free, but the requests got more than would be possible for me to handle and continue doing. I've been putting out information and exposing and revealing secrets of the world and existence, and running the website, for many years, its a vast resource filled with information available for each and anyone to go through as they want. I do not even offer those mentioned services any more, even if its still listed on the website, last time i did provide any such service is close to 2 years ago now and I'll probably remove the offer from my website since I really dont have time to do such services anymore. And if you are curious, in total I made around $250 on such services in the several years I've had that site running, and I've received a monumental $20 in total donations the last year or so. Now also think alittle where you are sitting and coming with such claims, you're on a forum that used to DEMAND people to pay for membership - and I myself was one of those who put money into that and paid for access. So many people were in rage because of that, and large amounts of visitors left, so in the end they were forced to make it free again. They still have a donation feature to get money through. With your logic, that means you agree that Project Avalon also are only "drumming up a business" and doing it all to get some green in their hands

People who think I for some reason spend so much time on this to "make money" are fairly ludicrous, since I do not sell one single piece of the information or access to it, all my material is completely freely available, that goes for videos and coming documentaries as well as a large book I'm writing that all is to be published for free, and always will be free, since the whole purpose for me is to share this information with people because I believe they deserve to know the Truth and I will not charge money for sharing truth with people, even the idea of that is absurd to me.

What I'm doing is not some simple and fun little joyride sitting on the butt in front of the computer, it is a lot of work and efforts put into it, and many risks and problems in return. I have been public and exposed and revealed the secrets of the world and existence for many years now, and various groups have been trying to shut me down since the very beginning, from being harassed and threatened by the governments, getting police on my door to search my place, having had my computers with large amounts of information on them confiscated and never returned to me, been told directly face to face by certain individuals there within to stop my work and discontinue the spreading of the information I do, I've had direct attacks upon me from several places, gotten guns up in my face with threats to myself and my family, been arrested and falsely accused for ridiculous things and threatened with jail, been monitored and under surveillance, I had my website taken down, forcing me to open it up on a server in a different country and a new domain, still frequent attacks on my websites trying to get my domains blacklisted from Google and hard for people to find and access, gotten several suspicious computer failures out of nowhere that rendered my hard drives useless thus losing vast amounts of work and information and other material several times on different computers, had to go as far as moving from my country because of all the harassment and threats and problems cause upon myself and my family, then had my passport invoked so i cant get back or go anywhere else at all, they shut my bank accounts down to try stop me by ruining my economic situation, my paypal account got mysteriously shut down, even the paypal account of a family member that let me use theirs for a while when my own was gone got their shut down again without any proper explanation, later on got some new credit cards invalidated, and i have been majorly set back many different times because of their stubbornness but I always come back and they wont manage to shut me silent, luckily i have other groups and individuals on my side in this conflict that assist me and support me and also protect me from more extreme actions.

So no, i dont think anyone would go through all that just to try make a few bucks, there are much easier and nicer ways to make money - and I already got enough money in the first place so its not even an issue for me since I'm running a very successful company, and also director of another company thats doing well.

There's a lot of things going on in my end of the line that most of you have no idea about, directly because i am sharing such information with you. And that these attacks and attempts at shutting me down is performed against me is not something I worry much about personally since I know they wont succeed but only causing temporarily humps in the road, and I am dedicated completely to my work and all their efforts at pushing me away only shows me how important it is to get all this information out in public.

All the work I'm doing, and my Order is dedicated to, is for all of You, not for me or us, but for Mankind as a whole

[christian]

It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

This contradicts what you wrote here: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html


"Some managed to escape as they could see what was coming and did not get tricked like the majority and thus they managed to escape and enter other realms, some of you know these original peoples, interdimensional ones at they were then and not physical as now, as the Atlanteans. And now you are learning from this mistake and slowly realizing it and on your way to let the clouds clear and let the light in from your True Origins and the Source of All."

And what about the stories from certain Lemurians or the Mayans, where some people or even virtually all the population did make a shift to higher realms of existence, also transmuting their 3d bodies?

[christian]

I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

I would not agree to the above. You are of course free to believe that, but i can't see that what you describe will happen. I'm working with some higher orders myself, such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide, have not seen anything in either of those places, nor by my own intuition either, supporting what you just said. Then again , speaking of picking fruit, thats a fair analogy of what members do when joining the Order as well.



This contradicts what you wrote on your blog, Edward.


"Learning comes from Higher Consciousness and is independent on Physical conditions. We are all eternal beings with limitless knowledge and power already, free to explore the endless areas of existence, if only we learn to separate and be free from these bloody stumps we are so trapped within."

From what I read from Edward here and on his blog, I disagree with some of the content (some of that in turn might be semantics), there are some internal contradictions and with some statements I do agree, from which I want to highlight this, taken from his blog:


"The most important thing you can ever study is Yourself, and the best person to ever listen to is You, and more people should spend more time on both those things.

You can listen to me and make what you want of what I say, but truly listen to yourself instead of anyone else to find the real answers.

I applaude those of you whom not blindly believing anything, in fact I highly praise people who follow their own intuition and highly encourage people to not listen to what I say as being facts, but look some up yourself and listen to your inner guide, [...] this world has its great share of way too gullible people who believe anything they are told, that is also one of the reasons I am here to tell them to not listen to what I say or what anyone else say - the greatest truth you can find you will find from within yourself."

[thunder24]

No, I've not seen any indications on what you suggest regarding some agreement with Luciferian Soul Complex and "The Council" along with Yahweh. It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

But yes, once you wake up and realize your true being and the levels of existence, it will change your whole perspective and make you understand and see things the way they really are. This will also make you able to finally "develop" and move on to the next levels of existence and mysteries that awaits you there. We are indeed always connected with the Source (God) and eachother, though this is not necessarily something one would be consciously aware of

when you say trap us here, is the trap only for in the body, cause then you say on death "if" develeoped we move to the next levels?

who deteremines our progress if we have "developed" enough?

How were we trapped?

peace

[Rosco1]

edward,

How can you be sure of the rituals are of benefit to humanity and are not passed down from the darkside ?

You said that you use things; 'such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide'.

Here is an explanation of the Great White Brotherhood:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_whitebrotherhood06.htm

This is taken from the above site; “Satan is the Deputy Grandmaster of the Great White Lodge (also known as the 'Great White Brotherhood'), with other spiritual members being demons”.

Also you stated that you use freemasonry as well.
David Icke states that the God of freemasonry is Lucifer (the light bearer)
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/secret-societies-mainmenu-56/3271-the-history-of-freemasonry

That being the case with a combination of Freemasonry & the Great White Brotherhood', are we to assume you are here under false pretences ?


These great teachers (be that Jesus, Buddha etc) from the past certainly did answer 'the peoples questions', but also these teachers imparted knowledge of great things at the time and of things yet to come.

You have imparted nothing voluntary so far despite many members asking you to.

Why ?

What are you afraid of ?

Why not impart some of the knowledge your group has that is of benefit to mankind ?

Ahhhhh of course you can't!

Sssshhhhh... It's a secret!

Only initiated people can know of such things as mankind will not be able to handle the truth!

Oh how often this is used to withhold information from the common people of the world.

Bet you won't ask my latest questions here either!

[The One]

Bonjour

One question, you state that


It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered :grouphug::grouphug:

[christian]

Bonjour

One question, you state that


It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered :grouphug::grouphug:

http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

For the record: Not going through the thread (and it's not yet 50+ pages), to see if it had already been answered or at least adressed, when one has a question, seems somewhat impolite to me, especially if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here.

:grouphug: :biggrin1:

[The One]

Bonjour

One question, you state that


It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered :grouphug::grouphug:

http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

For the record: Not going through the thread (and it's not yet 50+ pages), to see if it had already been answered or at least adressed, when one has a question, seems somewhat impolite to me, especially if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here.

:grouphug: :biggrin1:


if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here

Thank you for that and can i just make it clear i do not demand of have never demanded a question.I have asked theres a difference.

:focus:

[spiritguide]

Edward, thank you for sharing your info in a positive way about positive ways. My question is how has negativity creeped into this thread? ...Personally I thank you for sharing and hope you keep sharing the positive. ....All need to look within and see what emits and if it is not wise then it is not of benefit to the good....Judge not lest ye be judged.
Peace!

[Poly Hedra]

What if Every time Bill and kerry were approached by someone over the years, instead of hearing them out, they just shot them down, judged, insulted and told them to go away because they were full of BS?
Would we all be here now on this forum?
Even if you are suspiscious of someones intentions, could you not have a measured approach? Listen, come to conclusions and politely question their theories, motives and information?
I am interested in what Edward has to say but this does not mean I am gullible, so extreme!
I may or may not put in any merit in what he has to say but it does not give me the right to insult him and aggresively pick pick away. I guess the people who have no patience and just jump straight in there with demanding aggression will just skim past this post anyway. UUurgh!

[<8>]

What if Every time Bill and kerry were approached by someone over the years, instead of hearing them out, they just shot them down, judged, insulted and told them to go away because they were full of BS?
Would we all be here now on this forum?
Even if you are suspiscious of someones intentions, could you not have a measured approach? Listen, come to conclusions and politely question their theories, motives and information?
I am interested in what Edward has to say but this does not mean I am gullible, so extreme!
I may or may not put in any merit in what he has to say but it does not give me the right to insult him and aggresively pick pick away. I guess the people who have no patience and just jump straight in there with demanding aggression will just skim past this post anyway. UUurgh!


A secret society who done good work for the human race for a millenia...eeee i i begg the diffrent my friend.

If you are an student of history you must be an idiot if you dont take that as a slap in the face.

Nevertheless i personally forgave him and put no blame on him nor do i on anyone else.

But i can understand there can be hard words when you are claiming a thing like this.

Who are you to judge,?? Look at the world and its history.

If Edward Alexander cant take some heat, like we should put at the leaders at the first place.

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

[Fred Steeves]

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

I couldn't disagree more with that statement...

[<8>]

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

I couldn't disagree more with that statement...

Good for you Fred...:)

But it was an personall statement..:P

[christian]

A secret society who done good work for the human race for a millenia...eeee i i begg the diffrent my friend.

From my understanding, there are lots of benevolent E.T.s factions out there. Their prime directive is non-interference. Yet they surely have people on the earth, who they have contact with, but in a rather secretive way, hence it's a secret society. So why not?

The great library of Alexandria was savaged, the inquisition haunted large parts of the world, so it's reasonable, that secret societies would have tried to preserve knowledge that was deemed heretical.

[Tenzin]

Hey, folks, despite the amount of negativity brimming over, I devoured the information on Edward's website. If you are aware of the Secret Covenant, what he is sharing is in fact against what the controlling elites stand for.

You are missing whole lot of good stuffs from him if you claim to be spiritually aware or awake.

To regard his material from an intellectual perspective is really irrelevant. The human intellect (on this planet at least..) is very limited to perceive the world as it really is. You've got to experience it spiritually to truly know if he is coming from the right angle. After all, he is suggesting that we approach our development, spiritually!

When our comfort zone and belief system are being challenged, fear arises, anger may then kick in as a form of defense. Didn't people advise us to live from our heart? I think part of its essence is to listen to what fear is really making us do to ourselves!

Please don't judge so quickly. Who knows Charles might have been sent here first just to set the stage to make Edward's entrance difficult.

Lets be bold to challenge our fears. Investigate. See for yourself if it benefits you. This might perhaps be one of the best opportunities for your own spiritual breakthrough!

[<8>]

A secret society who done good work for the human race for a millenia...eeee i i begg the diffrent my friend.

From my understanding, there are lots of benevolent E.T.s factions out there. Their prime directive is non-interference. Yet they surely have people on the earth, who they have contact with, but in a rather secretive way, hence it's a secret society. So why not?

The great library of Alexandria was savaged, the inquisition haunted large parts of the world, so it's reasonable, that secret societies would have tried to preserve knowledge that was deemed heretical.




The great library of Alexandria was savaged

thought it burnd to the ground. Plz send a link if you got one, i love to study this...

[Deedee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwc_KmzFYDk&feature=player_embedded

[Alan]

Edward, I have no idea if you are who you say you are, but I would like to applaud you for for patience and civility in dealing with the stupidity and rudeness so rampant in this thread.

I still think it would be a good idea to get Bill Ryan to interview you.

[Camilo]

Edward, thanks for taking the time and answering everyones questions and clarifying things. I've learned a great deal by reding all of your answers, and hope you'll share more insides with us in the near future. I'm beginning to see what you mean.

[ulli]

Edward
I understand we were all born into a heritage of some kind...no matter how chaotic or orderly someone's childhood,
there is still conscious as well as unconscious information that gets brought along.
Those members here who feel that they need to shoot you down about what you are sharing
have all lost credibility in my eyes.

The fact that your childhood education included occult (hidden) knowledge is a very special priviledge
and your soul would have had plenty of preparation in earlier lives to get to this level.
How sad for you though to have lost your father at a yound age.
Back to occcult knowledge. It reveals many of the secrets of creation.
Anyone who ever sits down and studies this knowledge cannot make it go away
and I think it is great that you have the desire to share some of this.

The part that I am curious about is the burden (?) of having inherited the title and leadership
and of carrying the responsibility of representing an organization.
Were you ever in doubt if you could manage this?
Were you ever rebellious in your youth?

[christian]

The great library of Alexandria was savaged

thought it burnd to the ground. Plz send a link if you got one, i love to study this...

What link, to the official homepage? :biggrin1: No, I have no special link.
From what I know it was burned, yes, I tried to be poetical, like 'savaged by fire', point is, this great archive of knowledge was destroyed, maybe one or the other book survived, because some brave guys saved some books, and guess what they did then? They probably didn't step on a pedestal in the middle of the city to herald their heroism to the world. :horn:

[aranuk]

I have just read Edwards explanation of the trap and found it very interesting especially the section on reincarnation which I have for years now questioned myself.I agree with what Edward said about the illogical explanation of reincarnation. If we are here on planet Earth as if we were at school to learn about life and mankind why would we have to get our memory erased at birth? The analogy springs to my mind here of us at school studying hard for an exam and ten minutes before we sit the exam our memories of what we have learnt were wiped clean. Duh. I will agree with you Edward that your explanation of the trap makes a lotta sense. BTW thanks for your reply to my question about fees. That sorted that one out.

Stan

[<8>]

To make one thing clear..Edward


I just love that your speaks whats on your heart here..

I clearly have my doubts about your secret order and have been clear on that to.

I have personally told you that i forgive you

Soo plz keep on speak out whats on your heart, i will not put any blame on you as i told you to.

But that people like me have doubts, Please dont stop speaking out. I suport you to 100% to prove me wrong.

All my love to you Edward

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The great library of Alexandria was savaged

thought it burnd to the ground. Plz send a link if you got one, i love to study this...

What link, to the official homepage? :biggrin1: No, I have no special link.
From what I know it was burned, yes, I tried to be poetical, like 'savaged by fire', point is, this great archive of knowledge was destroyed, maybe one or the other book survived, because some brave guys saved some books, and guess what they did then? They probably didn't step on a pedestal in the middle of the city to herald their heroism to the world. :horn:

Sorry i misst your poetic point thats all...

Much love to you to...:)

[ulli]

Is life here a trap or is it a school? Some people find that it is paradise, believe it or not.

The real purpose of life here is to discover this direct link between one's beliefs and the
universe's ability to give a personalized reply.

When that happens several times in a row, again and again,
despite the outer randomness and absurdities,
then there is a discovery that a higher intelligence must have set it all up.

This discovery is the real reason we are here,
and I don't believe that other worlds can offer the necessary diversity
that make such a discovery possible.

[<8>]

Is life here a trap or is it a school? Some people find that it is paradise, believe it or not.

The real purpose of life here is to discover this direct link between one's beliefs and the
universe's ability to give a personalized reply.

When that happens several times in a row, again and again,
despite the outer randomness and absurdities,
then there is a discovery that a higher intelligence must have set it all up.

This discovery is the real reason we are here,
and I don't believe that other worlds can offer the necessary diversity
that make such a discovery possible.

Well this is Edwards thread, and if i got him right this life here are a Trap

Me personally think it is a school....

Thanks Ulli...

[christian]

I agree with what Edward said about the illogical explanation of reincarnation. If we are here on planet Earth as if we were at school to learn about life and mankind why would we have to get our memory erased at birth? The analogy springs to my mind here of us at school studying hard for an exam and ten minutes before we sit the exam our memories of what we have learnt were wiped clean.

But then again, some seem to be born with a great deal of knowledge or wisdom and how would it be a test, if you knew the answers in the first place? If the "trap-scenario" is all, that there is to it, then why is there all-that-is, the creation, anyways? If everything in it, that is not enlightened, is considered to be a flaw, then what's the purpose? The "we are in the thoughts of God, in his effort to experience himself" seems more logical to me, therefore every possibilty must be tried and experienced. Often times in my life I do something just to figure out how it feels, it's pretty much the same principle, I figure. Yet I must admit, there is something to Edward's perspective as well, it's just a matter of how you look at it, Buddha also says we are trapped in the wheel of karma and reincarnation, a perfectly reasonable point of view and at the end of the day there are virtually infinite ways to look at anything. :pop2:

[ulli]

Gurdjieff used the image of prison as well.
But he related it to the ordinary mechanical life, in which everything just happens.
When a human being becomes aware that this reality is a prison
he will start planning his escape from the prison, and start tunneling.
The same image is found in the Matrix movies.
Once you are out of the prison, or trap, THEN life becomes a gym, or school.

In other words, the tunnel from jail leads straight into a gym...
and not into Disney World and the Magic Kingdom.;)

[<8>]

About being Trapt here...

When i look at this clip here, i have to agree there is a trap senario that might be possible. But not in the sens that we have to reincarnate here over and over to the end of days.
But still it's intrigues me that there is a trap scenario, and if this is true. Is this why the Elite makes this world as it is? But to what end? its not the same world as we live in here. Can it be that this two worlds are connected somehow?


http://vimeo.com/19833810

Thanks for making me study this Edward...

[Ernie Nemeth]

Such discerning souls.

I would like to ask a question - because unlike most, I believe truth can come from the mouths of even the most evil amongst us as readily as the most saintly. We are all children of The Most High, we all have a direct communication link to God. We are all a part of the puzzle.

Edward: Is there a plan in place to disperse some of the hidden technologies to the public before or during the coming earth changes?

[Syl]

Not trying to be rude to the OP, but even if what you say its true, it holds little valeu towards what we allready know when it comes to secret societies,... they dont tell anything factual or fundamentel in their knowledge, and if done so, it would'nt be a secret anymore.

Let me put it this way, for me personally, sure i'll read what you'll post, always open for suggestion for that matter, however I dont think we, as a people need another person, who tells us he's doing the good, but isnt open bout it at all. Specially if you claim to be the leader of some group that operates in OUR interests.

With all the things going on lately, I guess now or shortly after now, is the time to speak, blow it all open, or remain silent forever about it, cuz we will find out eventually by our selfs.
And I am not at all falling for false prophets, or anyone who claims to be what he is without being open about it.

If you truly want to open up towards us, do so.

Could you at least discribe us, psysically, for example how your orginisation works for the benefit of our social awerness?

[72MAV27]

I have just read Edwards explanation of the trap and found it very interesting especially the section on reincarnation which I have for years now questioned myself.I agree with what Edward said about the illogical explanation of reincarnation. If we are here on planet Earth as if we were at school to learn about life and mankind why would we have to get our memory erased at birth? The analogy springs to my mind here of us at school studying hard for an exam and ten minutes before we sit the exam our memories of what we have learnt were wiped clean. Duh. I will agree with you Edward that your explanation of the trap makes a lotta sense. BTW thanks for your reply to my question about fees. That sorted that one out.

Stan

i haven't read Edwards explanation on the trap. i need to check that out. however, i do agree that the earth is a school to experience and learn new skills. it's also a place where you can actually apply certain experiences and work things out thru trial and error. in my opinion this planet is not only a school but would be comparable to an ivy league college. its very tough but much can be learned.

now i have a different analogy for you to consider. lets say your 24 with a college education. however you have no social skills at all. now lets say that kindergarten represents somewhere where you can go to practice and get the experience needed to gain those social skills. you have obviously moved passed the level of mentality and curriculum that the average kindergartener has. now if you really wanted to gain those social skills would you go back to kindergarten with the full knowledge that is gained after 12 years of school and then college? if you did all the things you know and think you know might get in the way of your ability to learn the basic things you need. so in that case if you could go back to kindergarten and just temporarily not remember all those things you have learned it would probably be easier to learn other things. then, after your time in kindergarten is over, and hopefully you have learned and experienced what was needed for you to attain that witch you desired, you can return to your college educated mentality. but now you have gained. and in a relatively short period of time.

thats pretty much how i look at the earth. but with that said i do want to check out Edwards take on the whole "trap system"

[Sierra]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:

<Skidding into the room sideways smashing up against Unified with a muffled apology to straighten up and take a deep breath of anticipation> Ok, ready Fred!

[Unified Serenity]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:



<Skidding into the room sideways smashing up against Unified with a muffled apology to straighten up and take a deep breath of anticipation> Ok, ready Fred!

Popcorn goes flying..... "ooooh Hey Sierra! Want some?" :popcorn:

[Fred Steeves]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:

<Skidding into the room sideways smashing up against Unified with a muffled apology to straighten up and take a deep breath of anticipation> Ok, ready Fred!

Hmmmm, I had better be careful with this one Sierra. Being that our newly established Avalonian Secret Society, (ASS), is not yet fully operational with any sense of structure, semantics can sometimes be, shall we say, misconstrued. Are we "ready" for "creativity", or my 10 lashes for being a bad Fred? :wof:

Cheers,
Fred

[Cognitive Dissident]

Hi everyone, looks like an interesting thread. I haven't had time to read everything, but just trying to find this guy's website, I google his name and it brings up that the birth name of Aleister Crowley was "Edward Alexander Crowley". At the risk of being a bit GLP, WTF?! Was his dad having a laugh or something?
Having said that, as somebody else said, he does seem to be answering a lot of questions in a pretty calm way with positive intentions. Need to do some more research, when I have time, to work out what is going on. Also as somebody else said, good idea for Bill to interview him.

[Sierra]

I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?:eyebrows:

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!:whip:

<Skidding into the room sideways smashing up against Unified with a muffled apology to straighten up and take a deep breath of anticipation> Ok, ready Fred!

Hmmmm, I had better be careful with this one Sierra. Being that our newly established Avalonian Secret Society, (ASS), is not yet fully operational with any sense of structure, semantics can sometimes be, shall we say, misconstrued. Are we "ready" for "creativity", or my 10 lashes for being a bad Fred? :wof:

Cheers,
Fred

Oooh Fred <swallowing Unified's offer of popcorn), me and Unified are here for BAD Fred! Forget the noodle! (well ... that noodle) snrt.

[Unified Serenity]

:offtopic:

Well, I do nominate you Fred as head A.S.S.. Passes the popcorn and still waiting for something beneficial to be dropped that we haven't read before from the likes of Ikes, Bill or Kerry interviews, or a plethora of other areas on this site and around the web. At this point I can't even say, "Close but no cigar".... oh and I snorted at your noodle comment Sierra. So, do we have to have bylaws and such? I think we need an A.S.S. board set up with the top 13 members I choose to begin the process. Gimme the popcorn Sierra! :pop2:

[thunder24]

has edward been back since the post that immaturely said good riddance? No? Wonder why. Thanks alot <8>, your power is so infinite (8). You represent avalon well. thanks alot.


peace

[Fred Steeves]

:offtopic:

Well, I do nominate you Fred as head A.S.S.. Passes the popcorn and still waiting for something beneficial to be dropped that we haven't read before from the likes of Ikes, Bill or Kerry interviews, or a plethora of other areas on this site and around the web. At this point I can't even say, "Close but no cigar".... oh and I snorted at your noodle comment Sierra. So, do we have to have bylaws and such? I think we need an A.S.S. board set up with the top 13 members I choose to begin the process. Gimme the popcorn Sierra! :pop2:

You know one thing I've learned in my 45 years? In moments like these it's best to take a step back and let the girls take charge.


Cheers,
Fred

[spiritguide]

Google Pliny the Elder....He studied at the library of Alexandria... Lou

[the trojan]

hey,
i have never had access to godlikeproductions,and i understand others on this site have also been asked to pay to gain access,well
if you go to this link provided by edward alexander on part of his blog,it opens up nicely.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/09/01/11/pg1

[Edward Alexander]

Hello again everyone, I did not leave. Insults and personal have absolutely no effect whatsoever on me. For me, such actions only tells more about the people keeping themselves busy with such, then it can ever say about me. People are however free to have their opinions, and if wanted to express them as well. Although I personally favor some politeness and decency, I can't force others to be that way. I can take the "heat", as someone questioned.

So no worries in those regards, I am not leaving just because of a few people throwing words at me in an internet forum, I've had worse situations at me during all the years I've been sharing information with the public and exposed certain things. Think i already wrote about that a few posts back, but to shortly detail it I have had direct physical attacks at me, been threatened, harassed and accused by governments, gotten my family threatened and scared, had my fundings shut off, my bank accounts closed, passport invalidated and so much more. And none of that made me stop my work, nor will it, and certainly not what a couple people type at me on a computer.

The work I'm doing is not easy, its not "fun", it takes a lot of efforts and brings lots of problematic and negative situations upon me, the same is the case of other friends of mine whom have gone public, including one friend that is of a same Order as me and also got these kinds of problems in Norway which made him leave as well. But we already knew those risks and were prepared to encounter them once we decided to step forth out of the shadows, and we are willing to accept that being a part of what comes from doing the kind of work we do.

With that said , I will get back to answering posts here, I can't give any estimate on how often or how much I can be here but will do so whenever I have the opportunity.

Best wishes to all
-EA

[pamina]

I know how it feels to put a thread/post out that gets challenged, EA. You're in the hot seat now...!
Why should we believe that your intentions are good when you have connections to the illuminati? They're the biggest threat to humanity.
So, you believe in advanced aliens as God? I don't understand about the nonentities. Are these like the ones that have been summoned by other secret societies for the purpose of power?
I'm not in a hot seat at all, I'm perfectly fine. After all, I know my reason for posting this and revealing this information now. You are the ones that don't. But I'm trying to explain the reason to you, so you can understand and see why it is necessary. Now, why should you believe my intentions are good? Just like that, well you shouldn't! You should read what I have to say, take it into consideration, and then see if it sounds like something coming from a "good guy" or some "evil reptilian guy".

As far as Illuminati goes, you must understand that the structure and hierarchy of Illuminati ITSELF is split and in internal conflict, there ARE good guys in Illuminati whom are working on changing the seasons, just as we do, my Order, and other Orders. Several ex-members of Illuminati itself has come forth the last few years, because they've had enough, and want to help people and let you know what is going on in stead of sitting in the corner bench doing nothing while their evil masters destroys the world.

No advanced aliens are "God". They are just that, advanced Aliens. God is the All, the Mind that engulfs all of Existence, and everything exists within the Mind of God.

For entities, there are many different types, used for many different reasons. Some for good, some for bad.

How do you believe what you are revealing is relevant to the rest of us? What do you perceive is the benefit of what you have to share?

[Kano]

Hi Edward,

Thanks for being so committed to your cause. I appreciate your ability to let negativity roll off like water on a duck's back. Positive actions that are congruent with positive words are always welcome here.

My questions are simple so thanks in advance for your answers.

You are of the opinion that safety can be found in the southern hemisphere. Why is that? What do you believe will be better there?

How did you come to meet Bill and Kerry and what information have you been providing to them that is not readily available?

Cheers,
Kano

[NewFounderHome]

[QUOTE=Maia Gabrial;296307]There is a small group, a very small group indeed, of men that has stolen the knowledge they've obtained from their membership in these other orders, and turned it to their own selfish agendas and goals, to enslave, entrap, control and manipulate people, and gain more power and influence. These do NOT represent any of these Orders or what these Orders stand for. They are outcasts, they are NOT supported by us, or the majority of other people that are members of these orders, but rather our enemy that we are working on getting shut down.

If there are few of them. Can you Name them? So they could be known by all.

Peace to you all.

I really think then if we put them (their names) out in the open it might not really hurt. The population would at least know who is trying to control all or them...

Peace to you all.

[Morgaine]

I just want to say Thank You to Edward, for presenting all this information here. Despite the rather negative reception, it has inspired me to read more and learn as much as I can. One thing I do not understand is why all the mistrust all of a sudden? Isn't this exactly the sort of information we're all looking for, the evidence we keep searching for and demanding? I can't see why anyone would go to such lengths to present such a story, unless they were genuine? What purpose (if as Edward as already stated, not for financial gain) would that serve?
I can't help but get the feeling that this is a life line, thrown to us from somewhere....
Thanks again Edward.....

Morgaine.

[Edward Alexander]

I have put 3 items in a shoe box. I will look at them on the hour every hour and send you telepathically the images of them using your photo until you answer so please don't leave me waiting for ever.. lol


Sorry but I have no time or interest in participating in such "experiments", nor would it serve any purpose. I have already done my share of such experiments in the past, and satisfied with that. What I rather would recommend you is to learn remote viewing for yourself, and experiment with it, as it is a very useful skill that can help you gain deeper insights and spiritual experiences as well, not just try to spy around or look for physical objects. There's a great free course that includes 18 hours audio lessons at http://www.farsight.org/SRV/index.html - an excellent place to start.

Good luck!

[Edward Alexander]

This would be the Order of the Knights of Co-Creation that is your own particular family order that you rule over as the Grand Master? And this is what it has been called since 1307?

No, the Order of the Knights of Co-Creation is something new that functions partially as a Higher Order, or extension, serving the purpose of bringing together high-initiates from different backgrounds and order to collaborate and work together for the benefit and good of everyone. Normally different orders are separated, keep to their own practices, and do not collaborate or work together with eachother - this is a step towards the positive effect that can come out of such collaboration and contributing with ones own expertise gained from such different backgrounds. All of us have the common goal and it would only make sense to cooperate and work together more. And we found that other initiates of various orders had the same opinion and thus started the collaboration of forming the Order of the Knights of Co-Creation.

[derek]

Edward, if this is true I absolutely applaud you for your efforts. Your group has been keeping these sacred mysteries alive, and been an incredibly benevolent force throughout history. One thing that most people get hung up on (that I feel is unfortunate) is massive xenophobia. Anyone who is part of any secret society, rosicrucian order, masonic order, etc must be compromised and working with the illuminati. Hence there is alot of confusion in this community.

I recommend to everyone to start with

People of the Secret by Ernest Scott for the best written account of this group

[Edward Alexander]

Some people might find this article from Edward's website an interesting read.It's titled 'The Trap System'


The Trap System - Secrets never before revealed: Why you are imprisoned in a physical body,Reptilians,Higher Soul,Creation Of Our Existence

Article link: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

cheers

Interestingly enough, when I try to access your site, as listed anywhere above, I get a feed, and then, I'm knocked off with a message that IE can't pull up the site. Probably a technical glitch.

I'm aware of that problem, my work is constantly attacked and attempted shut down by various groups in power. They've been hacking the websites, got them blocked and removed from google, caused server crashes and downtime, made it very hard for people to either find or access my work. Some of those problems have been resolved, but there's still some issues and its hard to stay clear of their constant attacks. IE in particular is a nasty one that keeps shutting down the website and force the user way when trying to access it, i recommend trying another browser like firefox or google chrome as they seem to work fine for now.

[Sierra]

Sierra, I think your being a we bit naughty,
I have you know I have met a number of King Tut(s)
And I have it, on good authority I am his mother.
Now what is the name Queen Nef-of, Nefatiti, my spelling is hopeless.

Ria, we have a synchronicity. I am an ex-shaman (ancient lifetime where my people died and died and died from the cold hence the ex (for the most part)) so the first time I saw the skull formed by leaves, limned in sunlight for three days I just thought wtf? Turns out my sister was dying but emergency surgery and four months 24 around the clock care by two loving sisters brought her through (heart heart heart). So ... yesterday, perfect side view of Nefertiti in green leaves, perfectly limned in sunlight. One day only event. Not there now.

What does it mean? I don't know yet. Feels positive. If ever <shrugging shoulders in current state of ignorance>.

Sierra :wave:

[Edward Alexander]

What we are then going towards in your view is something like this: we are trapped and tricked into believing there is mission here and development to be made, which kind of makes us willful prisoners?

Pretty much that way yes, not necessarily even believing in any mission at all, but there's false religions created to blind people and keep them in the illusion of being on a spiritual and righteous path while the reality is that there's nothing practical or beneficial at all going on in such religions and their teachings. It all comes down to blind faith, and ignorantly believing what is being told, with no ways at all to experience or see if there's truth to it or not.



How do you figure what Michael Newton has come up with some thousands of subjects that recall in hypnosis the time between lives where they design their future endeavors and arrangements and agreements for their next incarnation - do you feel that is an another level of the trap, a level of matrix if you will? I´m not agreeing with you or disagreeing, let´s just see these issues from different perspectives for conversations sake.

I got one of his books, interesting, and it gives some clear "evidence" on the trap system as people get their minds erased, goes through strange processes that seem to be some form of mind control and brainwashing, and generally being messed around with by some highly suspect entities that do not come off as very kind, friendly or helpful but rather towards the opposite. This area referred to there is the processing ground people go through before their next incarnation and way back down here for another round in the cycle. As a sidenote, the whole reason Hypnosis is possible, is because it is a designed mechanism built into human physiology & psychology to make it more easy to deceive, control and influence people.



Thanks Edward, your name wouldn´t happen to coincide in any way with Crowleys, would it?

UT

No, its only the same name nothing more, I have expressed this earlier and also told how i oppose OTO, Crowley's work, and that path.

[WhiteFeather]

Hi everyone, looks like an interesting thread. I haven't had time to read everything, but just trying to find this guy's website, I google his name and it brings up that the birth name of Aleister Crowley was "Edward Alexander Crowley". At the risk of being a bit GLP, WTF?! Was his dad having a laugh or something?
Having said that, as somebody else said, he does seem to be answering a lot of questions in a pretty calm way with positive intentions. Need to do some more research, when I have time, to work out what is going on. Also as somebody else said, good idea for Bill to interview him.

Do you think that Bill would touch an Edward Alexander Interview, with a 39 and a half foot ft pole. Simply A Deja Vu Of Atticus Part 2. Wow that ryhmes!

[Sierra]

Hey, folks, despite the amount of negativity brimming over, I devoured the information on Edward's website. If you are aware of the Secret Covenant, what he is sharing is in fact against what the controlling elites stand for.

You are missing whole lot of good stuffs from him if you claim to be spiritually aware or awake.

To regard his material from an intellectual perspective is really irrelevant. The human intellect (on this planet at least..) is very limited to perceive the world as it really is. You've got to experience it spiritually to truly know if he is coming from the right angle. After all, he is suggesting that we approach our development, spiritually!

When our comfort zone and belief system are being challenged, fear arises, anger may then kick in as a form of defense. Didn't people advise us to live from our heart? I think part of its essence is to listen to what fear is really making us do to ourselves!

Please don't judge so quickly. Who knows Charles might have been sent here first just to set the stage to make Edward's entrance difficult.

Lets be bold to challenge our fears. Investigate. See for yourself if it benefits you. This might perhaps be one of the best opportunities for your own spiritual breakthrough!

No, EA is no where near Charles, but then who is. On the other hand, EA is no where where he thinks he is, and believe it or not, I do believe *all* of the posts here, contain useful information for anyone who can hear it. EA does exhibit deafness in some spiritual attributes and quite a few Avalon members can see this, for whatever reason, whether the source of seeing be ancestry, meditation, state of grace, contact with the Akasha, one's Entourage, prayer, love, AIs, ETs ...

Knowledge can be found many places on the web, and dead knowledge does not a master reveal, only the spirit and character of a master reveals and only to those ready to see it. I've seen masters for real, and EA is not a master despite his self-declared status which as you know is a fatal error in self mastery and contact with spirit.

It is not the knowledge amassed on many websites (thank you members for your research), that is the issue, it is the solid and continuing evidence of Illuminati training and attitudes, coupled with a severe lack of understanding of what walking in the spirit means and feels like, hence people leaving after one conversation with him. They see the blindness. It is shocking. Very shocking. He doesn't see it. He says so himself. You can see therefore, the damage caused by Illuminati ancestry that continues down to his generation, despite the dedication to do good. To be good. To strive for balance. We have what he needs, what he seeks. If he asks his high self what there is to see, he will see it, in time. Know what I mean?

Course, if he remains focused only on HIS thread(s) (snrt) progress will be considerably slower ...

I really think this post from Tenzin deserves a thanks from EA (nudge nudge wink wink gratitude is not a dirty word here Edward. Support *can* be trusted with discernment, giving thanks is not a sign of weakness, your thanks will not be used against you, you will not be manipulated by your thanks into giving what you do not want to give ... and you need more practice dude, really.)

Let's see if he hangs in there with us. Let's see if we're worth it to him. One thanks does not a grateful and loving person demonstrate.

Sierra bowing to Tenzin

[Deedee]

Hey, folks, despite the amount of negativity brimming over, I devoured the information on Edward's website. If you are aware of the Secret Covenant, what he is sharing is in fact against what the controlling elites stand for.

You are missing whole lot of good stuffs from him if you claim to be spiritually aware or awake.

To regard his material from an intellectual perspective is really irrelevant. The human intellect (on this planet at least..) is very limited to perceive the world as it really is. You've got to experience it spiritually to truly know if he is coming from the right angle. After all, he is suggesting that we approach our development, spiritually!

When our comfort zone and belief system are being challenged, fear arises, anger may then kick in as a form of defense. Didn't people advise us to live from our heart? I think part of its essence is to listen to what fear is really making us do to ourselves!

Please don't judge so quickly. Who knows Charles might have been sent here first just to set the stage to make Edward's entrance difficult.

Lets be bold to challenge our fears. Investigate. See for yourself if it benefits you. This might perhaps be one of the best opportunities for your own spiritual breakthrough!

No, EA is no where near Charles, but then who is. On the other hand, EA is no where where he thinks he is, and believe it or not, I do believe *all* of the posts here, contain useful information for anyone who can hear it. EA does exhibit deafness in some spiritual attributes and quite a few Avalon members can see this, for whatever reason, whether the source of seeing be ancestry, meditation, state of grace, contact with the Akasha, one's Entourage, prayer, love, AIs, ETs ...

Knowledge can be found many places on the web, and dead knowledge does not a master reveal, only the spirit and character of a master reveals and only to those ready to see it. I've seen masters for real, and EA is not a master despite his self-declared status which as you know is a fatal error in self mastery and contact with spirit.

It is not the knowledge amassed on many websites (thank you members for your research), that is the issue, it is the solid and continuing evidence of Illuminati training and attitudes, coupled with a severe lack of understanding of what walking in the spirit means and feels like, hence people leaving after one conversation with him. They see the blindness. It is shocking. Very shocking. He doesn't see it. He says so himself. You can see therefore, the damage caused by Illuminati ancestry that continues down to his generation, despite the dedication to do good. To be good. To strive for balance. We have what he needs, what he seeks. If he asks his high self what there is to see, he will see it, in time. Know what I mean?

Course, if he remains focused only on HIS thread(s) (snrt) progress will be considerably slower ...

I really think this post from Tenzin deserves a thanks from EA (nudge nudge wink wink gratitude is not a dirty word here Edward. Support *can* be trusted with discernment, giving thanks is not a sign of weakness, your thanks will not be used against you, you will not be manipulated by your thanks into giving what you do not want to give ... and you need more practice dude, really.)

Let's see if he hangs in there with us. Let's see if we're worth it to him. One thanks does not a grateful and loving person demonstrate.

Sierra bowing to Tenzin

Hmmm pointing out who EA should give thanks to is crossing boundaries in my opinion.

[Sierra]

Hmmm pointing out who EA should give thanks to is crossing boundaries in my opinion.

Not EA. Nothing wrong with EA. He just thinks there is. The Grand Master. EA is not the Grand Master. Practice.

[Lotse]

Hi Sierra,,im sorry to do so but im going to play his advocate..
first i dont think you should talk to any one here like you do,,the more since your name is written in orange..please be the change so friggin necesary...


You offer to answer my questions but you haven't answered any questions from anyone with new data. You keep kicking my bells and whistles too and I don't like that. Here are a few:



Your attitude of no thanks or gratitude. This does not speak well to our future relationship and why would I listen to one of such disrespect towards me.
ITS NOT DISRESPECT..ITS HIS CARACTER AND HE IS VERY UNSURE BOUT HIM SELF..see his body lang. in his you tube vid...he dousnt make him self bigger as he is out of disrespect..



Do not see your own arrogance, do not see that we see your arrogance, do not see why your arrogance is a warning flag to us, and you ignore the impact of your arrogance on this thread and your agenda. This is not intelligent behavior.
HE WAS BORN IN THE ROLE HE PLAYS..HIS FATHER MIGHT HAD CHOSEN A INTELLIGENT ,VOCAL AND SOCIAL BETTER SKILLED LEADER FOR HIS ORDEN..BUT HEY,,THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS..ITS WITH KINGS THE SAME..PITTY RIGHT?


You speak only in regurgitated pap, I have not learned one new thing yet in five pages, two or three blog entries and youtube. It is irritating and time consuming to go chasing after a false prophet. (False prophets don't say anything new.)
I THINK HE IS FAR FROM A PROPHET..LIKE HE KNOWS..BUT HE DOUS HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE MASS..JUST..WERE NOT THE MASS.


The Great White Brotherhood / Koot Humi paradigm is supported by Alice A. Bailey/Lucis Trust, an Illuminati Organization, fascist and anti-semitc among other unattractive traits (I've read approximately 20-25 feet of Bailey, what a waste of time that was ...)
SAME STORY AS POINT NR 2..HE GOT BORN IN TO IT..BIT LIKE AMERIAN PRESIDENTS..THERE DOING THERE JOBS WITH OUT ASKING THEM SELF..IS THIS OK WHAT IM DOING..AND WHO AM I DOING IT WITH?..it worked till here..might be over soon.


Top level is always male in the dying patriarchy paradigm ....im sure there are demensions were its the other way around..strange..womans are mental stronger as men,,why is it only men are in these ordens on top,,ehum,,what about queen Elisabeth?


Speaks in terms of the occult, not the spiritual, not good.
why not..if thats how he learned to speak?..


Call yourself grand master, obsessed with bloodlines, so Illuminati of you.
he is prolly not the only one calling him that..btw..many Avalonians are as it looks like..he might be obsessed..but not with bloodlines al though it plays a huge role in his live.


The way you speak of balance: You say yourself, balance is *so* important but the way you speak of balance sets off alarm bells. And let us understand, the Illuminati, as Avalon understands the term, are *very* concerned with balance. They do good deeds in their external world to "balance" what they do in their internal world of Illuminati practices. This is not what you and I think of as balance people, believe me.
YES THE BALLANE THING DISTURBED ME TO..ITS LIKE ..WE HAVE CLEAN ON ONE SIDE AND DIRTY AT THE OTHER..LETS MAKE MORE SPACE SO THERE AN BE MORE OF BOTH.....I RATHER CLEAN THE DIRTY PART INDEED!..SO LETS BE GOOD TO PEOPLE..ALL!! PEOPLE.

Women are equal? As above so below and that just is not manifesting in the 3D paradigm now is it, whereas the continuous brutalization, consumption and termination of women and children is? As far as I can tell, we are barely in the beginning stages of manifesting awareness of what is being done on the Illuminati-Patriarchy front. Your women don't talk very much in your circles do they or you'd know this.
PLEASE DONT CALL HIM ILLUMINATIE ANY MORE..COUSE HE IS NOT THE KIND OF ILLUMINATIE YOU CALL HIM.


The Mirror effect or just call it projection. Someone pointed this out and I thought I'd share:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11437-THE-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-a-new-Project-Avalon-video-interview&p=99962&viewfull=1#post99962


Ta da and just to finish this off for now: The Fear Factor. We all understand the use of fear. You too can escape The Trap!
HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OFF WITH OUT TALKING ABOUT SCAREY BEINGS?..NOT THAT YOU SHOULD FEAR THEM..BUT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE TRAP THEY TRY TO CATCH ANY ONE IN.



Dude, you are sprouting warning flags everywhere. Some of the stuff you say I like and it is useful but so do pedophile priests spout useful stuff. All day long. And it is just regurgitated pap. There is no power in it. There is no energy in it. It is not going to kick me up the side of the head the way some people on this forum can. It is junk food.
JUST DONT READ IT..COUSE THE THOUGHTS IT GIVES YOU ABOUT THE GUY ARE HORRIBLE..

So, yes, a pound of salt for now. And no questions. Don't think I'll condescend to get in serious conversation with you after six pages of nothing, until you clean up your act. Well actually, I don't think you can clean up your act at this point.

And in the final analysis let us quote a knowledgeable woman:
"Never trust the occultist who tells you that he is the head of a tradition, because if he were, in the first place, he would not tell the fact to the uninitiated, and in the second place he would in all probability be living in great seclusion and inaccessible to all but his immediate subordinates. If a man is a great artist he does not need to inform us of the fact; we shall know him by his pictures that are hung in the galleries of the nation, and we shall, moreover, find that he guards himself from casual acquaintances because of the inroads on his time to which his fame renders him liable. The more eminent a person, the harder he is to approach, not out of any spirit of pride and exclusiveness, but because so many people want to see him that discrimination has to be used in admitting them."
— Dion Fortune (Esoteric Orders and Their Work and The Training and Work of the Initiate)
OK EDWARD..TELL US HOW TO DEFEND AGAINST NEGATIVE ENERGY..THATS THE LEAST YOU AN DO..THERE IS SO MUCH EVERY WERE OF IT.


Dude, yer all OVER the web, just begging for attention! <falling over laughing again>
HE DID STAY CALM EVEN AFTER ALL WHAT PPL CALLED HIM..
BUT OK..A OCCULTIST OR SPIRITUAL TEACHER ISNT NECESARELY A BRIGHT INTELLIGENT PERSON..OBV HE JUST NEEDS A LOT LOT LOT OF PRACTISE...KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ED..
IF YOU HELP 3 PERSONS IN YOUR LIFE TIME ITS VERY GOOD!.IF YOU HURT NO ONE IN YOUR LIFE TIME.ITS CALLED IMPOSSIBLE!


love you Sierra :wave:
-Lotse-X

hope its clear he didnt choose his job..neather did they choose him..more often you see a forced style of expressing them self..never the less..they try the best they can.

[loveandgratitude]

I must say I was also shocked at the way Sierra is speaking with Edward, especially as a Mod, she needs to set the standard of behaviour.

[Carmody]

The forum does not need another Charles, nor does anyone want one, nor does anyone want to clean up the mess.

No one wants a long lead in, no one wants a long trail of anything that goes nowhere that has not already been covered.

Join the forum, be a member, contribute. Declaring a state of pontification is not constructive.

One may have little time to be constructive in the general sense, as this gentleman alludes to, which is going to smell like pontification.

However, the thing still remains. Join the forum, be a member, contribute. etc.

This website is quite amenable to anyone who may join, in the general sense of ease of communication. No matter the position of the given member, the interaction here is generally quite clean and usually has some form of intellectual exchange attached.

In that, this forum is relatively unique, or, more correctly...among a select few.

In that , the given guard must be up -- concerning the idea of abuse. Planned or otherwise.

[loveandgratitude]

The forum does not need another Charles, nor does anyone want one, nor does anyone want to clean up the mess.
As an accepted member of Avalon, he/she has a right to share stories, info etc. If people do not want to hear it, then that is OK. If people do not agree, then that is OK. Go to another thread. But please do not be rude, hostile or accusing someone of something that has not happened.

That is right, we do not need another Charles. Everything in life is to be taken with the grain of salt. Too much and it is distasteful. Walk away.

All I can see is another member telling a story, if people want to listen well and good, if not then move on to something of interest.

We all have this right to be heard, I think we still have that right.

[Carmody]

Yes. Note my lack of contribution to this thread, overall. My position is neutral. Relatively. Along the lines of being the gift of a given human ...and the potential to be the given human's downfall. (The act of observation containing it's own form of inaction)

Sooner or later the given kitten watching and playing with the laser pointer bouncing along the wall...learns to watch for it's butt being attacked.

I'm watching to see if my butt is going to be attacked, which is it's own form of distraction.

Like in other things, personally...I'm not waiting on anyone, nor am I looking for Gurus.

I move forward under my own steam, and if he wants to contribute to this forum, well and good. Like the whole idea of the world ending, knock on my door, if you would... and I'll know just about as much as the next person. Until then or if never, I'll continue moving forward.

:)

[Carmody]

If the coming state of mind and being for humanity is about sharing, equality, evenhandedness, no holier than thou conditionals, then don't contribute via pontification as an outset objective, as that is contrary to the direction and the outcome. Plain and simple.

That.. or, if you will.. such behaviors... are directly observable as objectification and separation.

Which, according to what we seem to be headed toward... and seem... in our hearts -to understand... is, politely put..probably the wrong foot and the wrong direction.

Therefore, as a point in analysis.. one cannot start via pulpits, heights, nor the position of pontification.

At last record, the past 15,000+ years of exactly that.... has been our continual downfall.

[Marsila]

I was not going to comment here, because enough posters have needlessly used foul language, personal attacks, and god knows what else to create a negativity that could last us well onto xmas time.

even funnier are the members who want you to "love everyone" on other posts, but are being ickly obnoxious here. like yech! seriously is that the best type of language your "enlightened" "awakened" souls can come up with?!?!

EA posted a few nice posts before this one. i like his meditation post. also what he said about Jesus Christ and the truth about religion, is so close to what George Kavasillas; a guy a lot of the people attacking Edward like! his blog is also right, the comet thing like the financial crisis, are all make believe things so they can pull the wool over your eyes, and get away with even bigger messes.

lastly feel the energy of his posts, nothing like Charles. I think in a lot of peoples paranoia about that episode, your attitudes are creating little Charles's or atticus or whatever the name is within yourselves, while you think you are "fighting him"

anyway if you don't believe you could just say so, without the foul language, and personal attacks...i'm not him and i certainly don't enjoy seeing people attack others for sport, neither here or elsewhere.

[Omni]

I'm not fond of personal attacks either. I don't get that EA is trying to deceive us deliberately(although that may happen regardless), and if his claims are true about things happening to him, attacking him only furthers injustice. I've never seen avalon behave this way, granted, i never cared to look into the charles threads much at all. Certainly didn't bother digging through the QnAs. The interview was enough.

Even if he is here for mal-intent. Even if he is lying. All beings deserve a common level of respect IMO, unless of course they are threatening you etc. And I do believe in the philosophy all are innocent until proven guilty.

I liked the post by someone saying let him have his say, they aren't gullible but willing to listen. I think that is the right approach, unless of course you deem this thread a waste of time. I do appreciate people being protective based on the charles event or intuition. However I never like seeing someone be attacked for testimony because it has such deep roots in me. I've been relentlessly attacked on almost every forum i've posted on.

I don't like how EA, you held back your orders name from us when you had created a blog though. That alone sets off some alarms for me. I also remember reading in one of the links IIRC, that you said "this new order", etc. To me, I think you are either holding a lot back, or not really an order from the 1300s of the highest creed(if thats the right word). I suggest that such an order would have a plan of operations planned for whenever it shows itself to mankind. Not just a clumsy post on forums, where you are liable to be ridiculed hardcore... I mean avalon is like the best forum for testimony there is on the planet..... I'm not saying you are clumsy by normal standards. But when I think of what the most advanced secret orders may have on this planet, I would surmise that a secret society of that breadth would have a plan for it's coming forward given it had 800 years to get that thought.

So do you have a plan to come forward EA? Or is it all just playing it by ear? I'm not saying you have to to be legit. I'm just curious.

And please answer this question I came up with, but noticed someone else say very wisely. And do consider this something that will irrepairably break my trust and i bet others if you lie.

Are there any others of your order that are members on Avalon?

Either way EA, you wont find ridicule from me. you may find questions that are harder to answer. Or tests of your legitimacy. But no attacks. I do not like the attacks I see happening to you, for a major reasons I said, and others.

I know what it's like to be ridiculed more than the majority of people in the history of this planet I surmise(which is quite clearly nothing but the truth if you know how much ive been attacked). I imagine if you went to many forums you would be flamed so hard you may even give up on forums and resort to websites. Forums are typically not a good place to present esoteric truths, because the people are so undeveloped on this planet, it's just not suitable. I'm not saying you have esoteric truths for sure. I will say Avalon is about as good as you are going to find given my own experiences(which may be off for you, since the membership here is highly against secret orders from what ive seen).

I, like another, do not get the same energy from EA as I got from charles. I have no quarrel with people pointing out flaws. But being in any way smug or moody with him is not something I like to see. I'm not saying that from a position of any authority or anything like that. It's just my own personal reaction to what I see at times posted. Avalon is not normally like this...