Andromeda Council - War with Orion grey-Draco Reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET

[apokalypse]

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look like i have back to alex collier and other material on Andromeda council...

2 things those et could help us is let mankind know about our true past, the evolution and the history of earth since the beginning. who are we and where we as mankind from? did aliens manipulated us over thousands or millions years ago? if yes then who and how it happen? how we got into this mess if ...if human know about our true past then the game will be over.

[Ria]

Great info,
Much appreciation.
Keep us up to date.

[TraineeHuman]

The truth is, everything Alex Collier has ever said is 100% either chanelling or claimed memories which we’re expected to take totally at his word. And yet so many, many people (including many of you) seem to base so many of their beliefs or assumptions about ETs etc on the assumption that what Alex said is somehow fact. I believe it is far more plausible that Alex was occasionally abducted by you know what human agencies since his childhood and (without his knowing) had elaborate fake memories implanted in him. Why? Purely to mislead you and me. Equally, might not a similar explanation apply to the character in this video? For a start, why would “the Andromedan Council” – or, rather, certain of its members – bother to communicate to these individuals? Why would such a high-level galactic government (if it exists) ever risk subjecting its reputation to ridicule? Surely they have the technology and the intelligence to provide irrefutable proof to us all of who they are? Secondly, how do we know how much of what this man says or what Alex says is personal fantasy --regardless of how sincere the speaker happens to be?

[Hughe]

Thanks apokalypse ,

What made them choose 20 countries for contact?



http://www.andromedacouncil.com/Contact.html

The plan is for this contact & visitation to happen over & over again for an extended period of time, probably at least upward of one (1) full year all across the globe, until Earth people finally get the message - you are not alone, you have never been alone.

The planned geographic areas of the planet Earth that will be visited, in order of priority, are the following:

1. Japan 2. USA 3. Canada 4. Mexico 5. Brazil
6. Argentina 7. UK 8. France 9. Germany 10. Italy
11. European Union 12. Russia 13. China 14. South Korea
15. Indonesia 16. India 17. Turkey 18. Saudi Arabia
19. South Africa 20. Australia

[stardustaquarion]

Interesting, if it is true they will just leave us alone. The prime directive requires that planets are left to evolve by their own devices as any form of acceleration is damaging

If that is not the case, well they are just triying to gain human hearts and minds to make an unopposed invation

Tau Ceti is from where many grey aliens have claimed they come which may mean that the Zetas are at it still trying to get this planet for them and it is not the Andromedans

One will think that they will contact Alex Collier first

[Operator]

The truth is, everything Alex Collier has ever said is 100% either chanelling or claimed memories which we’re expected to take totally at his word. And yet so many, many people (including many of you) seem to base so many of their beliefs or assumptions about ETs etc on the assumption that what Alex said is somehow fact. I believe it is far more plausible that Alex was occasionally abducted by you know what human agencies since his childhood and (without his knowing) had elaborate fake memories implanted in him. Why? Purely to mislead you and me. Equally, might not a similar explanation apply to the character in this video? For a start, why would “the Andromedan Council” – or, rather, certain of its members – bother to communicate to these individuals? Why would such a high-level galactic government (if it exists) ever risk subjecting its reputation to ridicule? Surely they have the technology and the intelligence to provide irrefutable proof to us all of who they are? Secondly, how do we know how much of what this man says or what Alex says is personal fantasy --regardless of how sincere the speaker happens to be?

Thank you for this wise remark.
I like the info that Alex Collier is bringing, I also like e.g. Bashar. They seem to bring some kind of wisdom and that's good.
But if their source is indeed ET remains the question ... (but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater).

I listened to a lot of Stan Deyo material (again) and picked up a lot more info compared to previous time.
Sometimes I am confronted with things I don't want to accept but have to understand that I might not have a
clear picture yet (although I assumed thus far that I had).

This time I understood that Stan's story about removing the 'noiselevel' was actually about Roswell. He's now
the next person to tell that Roswell was actually a setup to enforce the idea of aliens.

I think I see some dots here that can be connected.
Joseph Farrell says that Roswell was related to the Nazis, in the Orion conspiracy is stated that they faked a crash
to convince the Russians they had a disk now too. Additionally the question can be raised if an advanced technology coming
from this far could be crashed this easily.

So was this just an engineered psyop for the purposes as mentioned in the Orion conspiracy and to remove the noiselevel
as Stan Deyo suggested ? If the Nazis are related to the growing shadowy cabal in the US than Joseph Farrell is right too !
I really start leaning towards this idea.

Now according to Stan there are only 2 groups involved: the humans and the fallen angels.
My new internal conflict is that Stan knows very well what he is talking about on one hand but brings in a lot of religious stuff as well.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

What folk should understand is what this guy talks about happens when he is asleep. Yep, its all a dream. Not one bit of evidence, only good olde faith.

For me, the Andromeda council, Galactic federation of Light etc are nothing more than cruel badly scripted hoaxes designed by monolingual thinking people who prey on the weak, gullible & fantasists. I can say this because I have the T-shirts & have witnessed the lives that have been ruined by scams & hoaxes by so called enlightened truthers. The thing is, people fall over themselves to hang on to every word that comes from these preaches lips, this in turn making it extremely hard for folk to pull them back onto the path & off the moors. Its almost cult like.

There are far to many dis-information / PSYOP agents out there who hide under the disguise of channelers, contactees, enlightened ones, lightworkers, whistle blowers etc etc, that its almost impossible to distinguish what is the truth if any. Sad & upsetting as it sounds, but time 'n' time again folk fall into the same trap by believing false prophets & what "resonates" with them. For they are even told, only take the bits that resonates with you & discard the rest, as if its some sort of meal & you side bin the bits you don't like. The term, Hook, line & sinker comes to mind.

I find it more than strange that the self promoted superior ancient aliens contact certain folk (who go on to make money, ching ching) so they can go out to educate the masses that they are not alone & to prepare for a mass showing of spacecraft, ascension etc, but all along hiding in the shadows & refusing to come out until everyone on the planet has acknowledged their existence. This will never happen as these people know dam well. Isn't this the same method religion uses on its flock? Have faith, believe, go forth & multiple, convert, character assassinate all non believers etc.

The guy mentions that only five or six people have been contacted & it's their job to get the info out. They're having a giraffe (laugh). What about the many different languages around the planet? Are these five or six people fully bilingual in every tongue? And what about the many billions of people who do not own or have access to a computer?

What is also interesting is how all of these so called aliens have easy name's that can be pronounced be English speaking people. I guess its much more convincing when they can pronounce simple names instead of challenging ones like Addfwyn, Amerawdwr or Eheubryd. Its also interesting on how all the planets & solar systems around the universe are also in the English sounding tongue instead of the beautiful sounding Eglwyswrw, Llanfair-ym-Muallt or Aberdaugleddau. I find this all very suspicious & that's not including the syntax they all use. "I am Ra should be, Ra am I".

I was once asked by a child while watching Star Gate SG1, "Why are all the aliens speaking English?". because its all make believe.



Another bit of importance. They even have a website & its only caters for the English language. http://andromedacouncil.com/index.html So much for these long lost cousins of ours showing love & respect. I guess the xenophobia mentality is universal? The format of their website sounds very New Age & condescending.

And just like a good old controlling & keep the people trapped religion, the dates are changing yet again. Its like a donkey chasing the carrot.

So they say that ships with small crews 3-4 will be landing in certain areas starting by the end of this summer 2011. Nothing as of yet. Too much negativity I guess on my part. Negativity being the "New" buzz word for blasphemy. Its all about shaming, labelling, silencing & controlling those who dare oppose the New doctrine.

The New finale date is now the end of 2014. Until 2013 comes along & its pushed back until 2017 & then 2020 & so on.


The questions that should now be asked;

Should the truth movement continue to allow this fantasy [sic] to be promoted without at least some sort of evidence?

Is there really a place in the truth movement for so called channellers?
Should channellers give the alleged aliens an ultimatum?
Should the truthers give the channellers, lightworkers etc an ultimatum?
Should a database be drawn up naming & shaming all dis-info agents, outlets, media etc?

At the end of the day, we are here looking for answers. People talking about & making videos about alien councils / corporations that they dream or are channelling about is only confusing matters.
Harsh as it might sound, but its time for evidence.

The alien names:

Zoltar - Commander
Derga? - chairman
Tanya? - vice chairwoman
Tarka - spiritual mentor (sage)
Azar? - cheif medical council
Bolta? - head of defence


Ring any bells?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnSyMXIj0Q-TGMu-ycWvIfM86QZh3DUnRanWMsgU0LE3laPMj8

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks apokalypse....Not sure what to make of him, I certainly respect Alfred and he likes to bring people forward to share their infomation. All this galatic federation info is fun but could just as easily be mind control , over active imagination , disinfo , or Star Trek could have been a documentry ! Who knows ?......

I personally think contact was made years ago , and ET was here way before us modern humans , and probably had a hand in our genetics , but still I don't know that for fact , so as Stanton would say slip it in the grey file...

Cheers Steve

[ghostrider]

What folk should understand is what this guy talks about happens when he is asleep. Yep, its all a dream. Not one bit of evidence, only good olde faith.

For me, the Andromeda council, Galactic federation of Light etc are nothing more than cruel badly scripted hoaxes designed by monolingual thinking people who prey on the weak, gullible & fantasists. I can say this because I have the T-shirts & have witnessed the lives that have been ruined by scams & hoaxes by so called enlightened truthers. The thing is, people fall over themselves to hang on to every word that comes from these preaches lips, this in turn making it extremely hard for folk to pull them back onto the path & off the moors. Its almost cult like.

There are far to many dis-information / PSYOP agents out there who hide under the disguise of channelers, contactees, enlightened ones, lightworkers, whistle blowers etc etc, that its almost impossible to distinguish what is the truth if any. Sad & upsetting as it sounds, but time 'n' time again folk fall into the same trap by believing false prophets & what "resonates" with them. For they are even told, only take the bits that resonates with you & discard the rest, as if its some sort of meal & you side bin the bits you don't like. The term, Hook, line & sinker comes to mind.

I find it more than strange that the self promoted superior ancient aliens contact certain folk (who go on to make money, ching ching) so they can go out to educate the masses that they are not alone & to prepare for a mass showing of spacecraft, ascension etc, but all along hiding in the shadows & refusing to come out until everyone on the planet has acknowledged their existence. This will never happen as these people know dam well. Isn't this the same method religion uses on its flock? Have faith, believe, go forth & multiple, convert, character assassinate all non believers etc.

The guy mentions that only five or six people have been contacted & it's their job to get the info out. They're having a giraffe (laugh). What about the many different languages around the planet? Are these five or six people fully bilingual in every tongue? And what about the many billions of people who do not own or have access to a computer?

What is also interesting is how all of these so called aliens have easy name's that can be pronounced be English speaking people. I guess its much more convincing when they can pronounce simple names instead of challenging ones like Addfwyn, Amerawdwr or Eheubryd. Its also interesting on how all the planets & solar systems around the universe are also in the English sounding tongue instead of the beautiful sounding Eglwyswrw, Llanfair-ym-Muallt or Aberdaugleddau. I find this all very suspicious & that's not including the syntax they all use. "I am Ra should be, Ra am I".

I was once asked by a child while watching Star Gate SG1, "Why are all the aliens speaking English?". because its all make believe.



Another bit of importance. They even have a website & its only caters for the English language. http://andromedacouncil.com/index.html So much for these long lost cousins of ours showing love & respect. I guess the xenophobia mentality is universal? The format of their website sounds very New Age & condescending.

And just like a good old controlling & keep the people trapped religion, the dates are changing yet again. Its like a donkey chasing the carrot.

So they say that ships with small crews 3-4 will be landing in certain areas starting by the end of this summer 2011. Nothing as of yet. Too much negativity I guess on my part. Negativity being the "New" buzz word for blasphemy. Its all about shaming, labelling, silencing & controlling those who dare oppose the New doctrine.

The New finale date is now the end of 2014. Until 2013 comes along & its pushed back until 2017 & then 2020 & so on.


The questions that should now be asked;

Should the truth movement continue to allow this fantasy [sic] to be promoted without at least some sort of evidence?

Is there really a place in the truth movement for so called channellers?
Should channellers give the alleged aliens an ultimatum?
Should the truthers give the channellers, lightworkers etc an ultimatum?
Should a database be drawn up naming & shaming all dis-info agents, outlets, media etc?

At the end of the day, we are here looking for answers. People talking about & making videos about alien councils / corporations that they dream or are channelling about is only confusing matters.
Harsh as it might sound, but its time for evidence.

The alien names:

Zoltar - Commander
Derga? - chairman
Tanya? - vice chairwoman
Tarka - spiritual mentor (sage)
Azar? - cheif medical council
Bolta? - head of defence


Ring any bells?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnSyMXIj0Q-TGMu-ycWvIfM86QZh3DUnRanWMsgU0LE3laPMj8 careful- Mr. Bob Dean has stated that the Galactic Federation of Light is REAL, and it's headquarters isn't in this galaxy. Bob Dean is a man of his word.

[WhiteFeather]

The truth is, everything Alex Collier has ever said is 100% either chanelling or claimed memories which we’re expected to take totally at his word. And yet so many, many people (including many of you) seem to base so many of their beliefs or assumptions about ETs etc on the assumption that what Alex said is somehow fact. I believe it is far more plausible that Alex was occasionally abducted by you know what human agencies since his childhood and (without his knowing) had elaborate fake memories implanted in him. Why? Purely to mislead you and me. Equally, might not a similar explanation apply to the character in this video? For a start, why would “the Andromedan Council” – or, rather, certain of its members – bother to communicate to these individuals? Why would such a high-level galactic government (if it exists) ever risk subjecting its reputation to ridicule? Surely they have the technology and the intelligence to provide irrefutable proof to us all of who they are? Secondly, how do we know how much of what this man says or what Alex says is personal fantasy --regardless of how sincere the speaker happens to be?

@TraineeHuman. Ghostrider brought up a good speaker in Mr Bob Dean, do you think he's just another new age, misleading ,metaphysical preacher and teller of a tall tale as well. LMK I'm interested in your answer.

[D-Day]

What folk should understand is what this guy talks about happens when he is asleep. Yep, its all a dream. Not one bit of evidence, only good olde faith.

For me, the Andromeda council, Galactic federation of Light etc are nothing more than cruel badly scripted hoaxes designed by monolingual thinking people who prey on the weak, gullible & fantasists. I can say this because I have the T-shirts & have witnessed the lives that have been ruined by scams & hoaxes by so called enlightened truthers. The thing is, people fall over themselves to hang on to every word that comes from these preaches lips, this in turn making it extremely hard for folk to pull them back onto the path & off the moors. Its almost cult like.

There are far to many dis-information / PSYOP agents out there who hide under the disguise of channelers, contactees, enlightened ones, lightworkers, whistle blowers etc etc, that its almost impossible to distinguish what is the truth if any. Sad & upsetting as it sounds, but time 'n' time again folk fall into the same trap by believing false prophets & what "resonates" with them. For they are even told, only take the bits that resonates with you & discard the rest, as if its some sort of meal & you side bin the bits you don't like. The term, Hook, line & sinker comes to mind.

I find it more than strange that the self promoted superior ancient aliens contact certain folk (who go on to make money, ching ching) so they can go out to educate the masses that they are not alone & to prepare for a mass showing of spacecraft, ascension etc, but all along hiding in the shadows & refusing to come out until everyone on the planet has acknowledged their existence. This will never happen as these people know dam well. Isn't this the same method religion uses on its flock? Have faith, believe, go forth & multiple, convert, character assassinate all non believers etc.

The guy mentions that only five or six people have been contacted & it's their job to get the info out. They're having a giraffe (laugh). What about the many different languages around the planet? Are these five or six people fully bilingual in every tongue? And what about the many billions of people who do not own or have access to a computer?

What is also interesting is how all of these so called aliens have easy name's that can be pronounced be English speaking people. I guess its much more convincing when they can pronounce simple names instead of challenging ones like Addfwyn, Amerawdwr or Eheubryd. Its also interesting on how all the planets & solar systems around the universe are also in the English sounding tongue instead of the beautiful sounding Eglwyswrw, Llanfair-ym-Muallt or Aberdaugleddau. I find this all very suspicious & that's not including the syntax they all use. "I am Ra should be, Ra am I".

I was once asked by a child while watching Star Gate SG1, "Why are all the aliens speaking English?". because its all make believe.



Another bit of importance. They even have a website & its only caters for the English language. http://andromedacouncil.com/index.html So much for these long lost cousins of ours showing love & respect. I guess the xenophobia mentality is universal? The format of their website sounds very New Age & condescending.

And just like a good old controlling & keep the people trapped religion, the dates are changing yet again. Its like a donkey chasing the carrot.

So they say that ships with small crews 3-4 will be landing in certain areas starting by the end of this summer 2011. Nothing as of yet. Too much negativity I guess on my part. Negativity being the "New" buzz word for blasphemy. Its all about shaming, labelling, silencing & controlling those who dare oppose the New doctrine.

The New finale date is now the end of 2014. Until 2013 comes along & its pushed back until 2017 & then 2020 & so on.


The questions that should now be asked;

Should the truth movement continue to allow this fantasy [sic] to be promoted without at least some sort of evidence?

Is there really a place in the truth movement for so called channellers?
Should channellers give the alleged aliens an ultimatum?
Should the truthers give the channellers, lightworkers etc an ultimatum?
Should a database be drawn up naming & shaming all dis-info agents, outlets, media etc?

At the end of the day, we are here looking for answers. People talking about & making videos about alien councils / corporations that they dream or are channelling about is only confusing matters.
Harsh as it might sound, but its time for evidence.

The alien names:

Zoltar - Commander
Derga? - chairman
Tanya? - vice chairwoman
Tarka - spiritual mentor (sage)
Azar? - cheif medical council
Bolta? - head of defence


Ring any bells?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnSyMXIj0Q-TGMu-ycWvIfM86QZh3DUnRanWMsgU0LE3laPMj8 careful- Mr. Bob Dean has stated that the Galactic Federation of Light is REAL, and it's headquarters isn't in this galaxy. Bob Dean is a man of his word.

Yes, but I fear even great men like Bob Dean are not impervious to the methods of deception and manipulation being utilised by that particular group of beings.

As I understand it they have the ability to "stroke" the central nervous system of their "subjects", thus inducing sensations of bliss and euphoria that are basically just "manufactured" and not organic in nature. I feel that many fine people have fallen under the beguiling spell of these beings via the use of such methods.

All I'm saying is people should think carefully about who they choose to align themselves with, especially in these times as we move into a new age of consciousness and awareness... the implications for your soul journey are likely to be enormous! (so choose wisely)

I personally have grave concerns regarding the channeled information that I see coming from the GFoL. I suggest people attempt to look past the surface messages of love and light etc and try to read between the lines a little bit. If you do this and really "feel" into what is being said, you might find that they are not what they are claiming to be and that there is a much more insidious and manipulative side to their agenda and intentions towards us.

Either way, my only advice to people is to use their heart for guidance in such matters, for it will NEVER lead you astray! If your heart tells you that the GFoL are your friends/galactic family then who am I to try and steer you away from your natural soul journey. I know what my path is, however, and I know with absolute certainty that it doesn't include THEM!

Best wishes to all of you on your journeys... follow your heart and you can't go wrong ;)

[TraineeHuman]

Whitefeather, Bob Dean is indeed a man of integrity, though his knowledge also has limits, as does anyone else's.

As a result of my own direct telepathic/astral (awake) experiences, I agree that there definitely is a galactic federation, which itself seems to be a loose alliance of several federations. But I am emphatically skeptical whether most or all of the channelled material from "the GFL" etc that sometimes clogs up space on this Forum has anything to do with the real galactic government in any way. I'm sure the members of the real government would find it equally as ridiculous, if they ever bothered to consider it.

[Sowelu]

[QUOTE=Bryn ap Gwilym;298109]What folk should understand is what this guy talks about happens when he is asleep. Yep, its all a dream. Not one bit of evidence, only good olde faith.

( I wish i could say my experiences were merely dreams but ive had more than one experience while full-blown awake)

For me, the Andromeda council, Galactic federation of Light etc are nothing more than cruel badly scripted hoaxes designed by monolingual thinking people who prey on the weak, gullible & fantasists. ( I agree that SOME and probably MOST of the information given is fabricated especially in the case of those who make money, but there are many milder reports that never make it to some interview and leave the experiencers themselves baffled)

There are far to many dis-information / PSYOP agents out there who hide under the disguise of channelers, contactees, enlightened ones, lightworkers, whistle blowers etc etc, that its almost impossible to distinguish what is the truth if any. ( This is true yet again having my own contact experience it frustrates me just as much when i try to search for others/more info and find a bunch joke "ufo" videos with silly alien dolls and scary faces/screams.

Imagine being on the other end of it, having seen something few people believe in and many others make fun of, or try to pin on overactive imaginations. I've always accepted that there is other life, with a space this huge and so many stars we can hardly say we're alone, however once you see it in front of ur face it changes ur perspective.

Now I have to dig for info on it because I want answers too.
I believe most of what collier says is info sourced from other places,
he just put the story together to fit his version. I have to say that i now know in my own personal heart that there are reptilian beings...why are they here? what do they want? that i don't know but it wasn't a friendly warm bunny of a creature either. Do i care if you believe me? not at all! i just want more info on the scary bastards)

I find it more than strange that the self promoted superior ancient aliens contact certain folk (who go on to make money, ching ching) ( keyword money, anyone who claims to be spiritual/enlightened and asks for money is a loon imo, I've never charged for anything spiritual, be it a simple card reading or healing ritual etc.)

The guy mentions that only five or six people have been contacted & it's their job to get the info out. They're having a giraffe (laugh). What about the many different languages around the planet? Are these five or six people fully bilingual in every tongue? And what about the many billions of people who do not own or have access to a computer? ( I agree this isn't true, so many people have been contacted for decades assuming they're not all lying...although he didnt specify if it was andromedans in particular...most alien contacts ive read about have been with greys, reptilians or those ones refered to as the nordics. credo mutwa goes on to talk about pink ones too)

What is also interesting is how all of these so called aliens have easy name's that can be pronounced be English speaking people. I guess its much more convincing when they can pronounce simple names instead of challenging ones like Addfwyn, Amerawdwr or Eheubryd. Its also interesting on how all the planets & solar systems around the universe are also in the English sounding tongue instead of the beautiful sounding Eglwyswrw, Llanfair-ym-Muallt or Aberdaugleddau. I find this all very suspicious & that's not including the syntax they all use. "I am Ra should be, Ra am I". ( There could be other factors, they could be simplifying their language for human ears...Personally i would think that most beings beyond 3rd demensional don't use a speaking language outside of this realm. If you're telepathic i can't imagine why you would need words)


Another bit of importance. They even have a website & its only caters for the English language. http://andromedacouncil.com/index.html So much for these long lost cousins of ours showing love & respect. I guess the xenophobia mentality is universal? The format of their website sounds very New Age & condescending.
(this site was obviously made by humans. hypothetically, even if they were based on the words of aliens humans have a tendency to add their own belief system into anything transcribed...just think of how different the bible became after several translations)
And just like a good old controlling & keep the people trapped religion, the dates are changing yet again. Its like a donkey chasing the carrot.
(I don't believe in a set date...but i have felt something change over the last year, I've always had intense astral experiences but they happen more frequently then ever before. I'm not for the doom and gloom ideas, but i feel like the planet is somehow activating..or waking up... not something ive heard just something i more feel. )

Should the truth movement continue to allow this fantasy [sic] to be promoted without at least some sort of evidence? (whats the alternative? get pi**ed off because we're all frustrated about the ptb (alien or not) but at this time their individual resources vs. all of ours combined are so ridiculous that we can't do anything at this time. Attack our own communties for the differences in beliefs on who done it or why? Personally, I say "pack for the year for the months trip" We need to expect a violent war even if its quiet, store up food and water even if you believe we will be "saved" Fact of the matter is as many good intentions as there are alot of people are just plain vulnerable and keeping faith is all they got, why deny their last free right? Alot of our truthers are senior citizens or young folk who don't have the strength to carry the battering ram to the white house.

Is there really a place in the truth movement for so called channellers?

(So we're gonna start kicking people out because of their talents/abilities?)
just because you haven't experienced it yet and fakes try to make money off of it, doesn't mean there aren't honest people who have these things happen to them involuntarily)

Harsh as it might sound, but its time for evidence.
(I would love to be able to proove it to you! or anyone! (fam believes cause they have all experienced something ((6 siblings my mom and several family elders we can't all be crazy)).but It's really not that easy especially in the case of non-physical beings.

Ive seen it while awake and always try to get my partner to see the things i see but he can't, the closest was he got to see the lights once and his temperature dropped suddenly causing him to breath out frosty breath we could both see in a hot house.

I swear sometimes it feels like I'm "the girl who cried wolf" I might add I'm on no meds, do no drugs/very rarely drink and eat an almost entirely organic diet. PLUS i have no history of mental health disorders or any disorder for that matter. Again if you don't want to believe that's fine, but please don't make a mockery of everyone that does just because of a few attention w**res wanting to make a buck.)

I agree that hoping won't make it happen but if you got a battle plan/ideal way of doing things please share, I'm willing to hear your side of it. What do you believe we should focus on?

[DNA]

careful- Mr. Bob Dean has stated that the Galactic Federation of Light is REAL, and it's headquarters isn't in this galaxy. Bob Dean is a man of his word.

I don't know for sure, but I trust my gut, and my gut doesn't trust Bob Dean.
He just happens to move in next door to Wendelle Stevens,,,and use his considerable charm and charsima to convince Stevens he was a member of the questionable "avary".

Bottom line is this for me, Bob Dean has never said or contributed any information to the UFO literature that hasn't already been repeated a hundred times over.
I watched his video on Nibiru and I was like,,,okay,,,so you just read a Zacharia Sitchin book.
I watched a video where he went on and on about the petrified Noahas Ark on top of a Mountian in Iran.
I was like yea, so what, there is a whole documentary out on that.


And now your telling me Dean says the GFL are real?
Wow, just one more nail in the coffin as far as the chances of Dean being legit as far as I'm concerned.

[Maia Gabrial]

We've never been left alone to evolve. All the rogue aliens are interfering with our lives on every aspect. The Prime Directive was thrown out a long time ago....
You make a good point, stardustaquarion. Why don't the Andromedans contact Alex anymore? It makes alot of sense that they'd try to gain our hearts and minds for any unopposed takeover of our planet. An invasion without ever having to lift a finger...! Wow are we dumb, or what?

[Maia Gabrial]

Also, Bryn ap Gwilym, people need to start paying attention to their thoughts because many of their thoughts aren't their own. I know this because I've been listening to my own. It's amazing how subtle they can sneak something in and get it by our defenses. They can make things easily "resonate" with us.
We have 2 minds. The one in our heads is easily manipulated. The one in our hearts stands firm....
I'm just saying to be alert because they know us very well....

[truth4me]

The truth is, everything Alex Collier has ever said is 100% either chanelling or claimed memories which we’re expected to take totally at his word. And yet so many, many people (including many of you) seem to base so many of their beliefs or assumptions about ETs etc on the assumption that what Alex said is somehow fact. I believe it is far more plausible that Alex was occasionally abducted by you know what human agencies since his childhood and (without his knowing) had elaborate fake memories implanted in him. Why? Purely to mislead you and me. Equally, might not a similar explanation apply to the character in this video? For a start, why would “the Andromedan Council” – or, rather, certain of its members – bother to communicate to these individuals? Why would such a high-level galactic government (if it exists) ever risk subjecting its reputation to ridicule? Surely they have the technology and the intelligence to provide irrefutable proof to us all of who they are? Secondly, how do we know how much of what this man says or what Alex says is personal fantasy --regardless of how sincere the speaker happens to be?

Thank you for this wise remark.
I like the info that Alex Collier is bringing, I also like e.g. Bashar. They seem to bring some kind of wisdom and that's good.
But if their source is indeed ET remains the question ... (but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater).

I listened to a lot of Stan Deyo material (again) and picked up a lot more info compared to previous time.
Sometimes I am confronted with things I don't want to accept but have to understand that I might not have a
clear picture yet (although I assumed thus far that I had).

This time I understood that Stan's story about removing the 'noiselevel' was actually about Roswell. He's now
the next person to tell that Roswell was actually a setup to enforce the idea of aliens.

I think I see some dots here that can be connected.
Joseph Farrell says that Roswell was related to the Nazis, in the Orion conspiracy is stated that they faked a crash
to convince the Russians they had a disk now too. Additionally the question can be raised if an advanced technology coming
from this far could be crashed this easily.

So was this just an engineered psyop for the purposes as mentioned in the Orion conspiracy and to remove the noiselevel
as Stan Deyo suggested ? If the Nazis are related to the growing shadowy cabal in the US than Joseph Farrell is right too !
I really start leaning towards this idea.

Now according to Stan there are only 2 groups involved: the humans and the fallen angels.
My new internal conflict is that Stan knows very well what he is talking about on one hand but brings in a lot of religious stuff as well.The humans and the fallen angels.....that's the ticket friends.This is what EVERYTHING is about. We came here to learn basically how to deal with evil and alot of us have got caught up in the trappings of evil.

[Sowelu]

Now according to Stan there are only 2 groups involved: the humans and the fallen angels.
My new internal conflict is that Stan knows very well what he is talking about on one hand but brings in a lot of religious stuff as well.

Wouldn't there be at least three? cause if there are fallen angels there are definately the ones who have not yet fallen too.
Names get switched around alot, religious people will use religious terms and religious descriptions to describe the same situation...
Personally I've always believed the "revelations" to be an add-on by the churches... they like to do that fear thing :fear:

It would seem that a "turning point" is not far off but its still to early to say what's going to happen exactly.
By my own astral experience (I spend alot of time wandering),
I'd have to say there's way more than just a few races out there but that's my opinion take it or leave it ^-~

[ktlight]

The next contact case is new. I don't know if he's a real contactee or not. I'm just sharing this.

There's a man who also claims to be in contact with the Andromedans. He calls himself "Tolec".

- He says the long war between the good and the bad ETs is over. He claims the good ETs won the war (Alex Collier also said in his January 2010 lecture that the bad guys are done, finished).

- He says the good ETs are soon going to start a direct contact with Earth humans.

- He says Japan was meant to be the first country to be contacted but now the first country is the USA. On his website he tells in which order different countries and areas are going to be contacted.

Tolec claims:

"The time line projected for this contact & visitation:

the most accurate date is now projected to be sometime late this summer 2011, approximately mid-late September, continuing through 2012 / 2013, as needed, depending on the pace of their progress in reconnecting with humanity around the globe."

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/ContactFromAndromeda.htm

Alfred Webre interviews Tolec:

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[Flasky]

We will soon find out.

September 11 2011 and counting....

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

There is already a thread posted about this http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29371-Andromeda-Council-War-with-Orion-grey-Draco-Reptilian-ETs-is-won-no-false-flag-ET&p=298109#post298109

[ktlight]

There is already a thread posted about this http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29371-Andromeda-Council-War-with-Orion-grey-Draco-Reptilian-ETs-is-won-no-false-flag-ET&p=298109#post298109

Thanks. I have asked for this to be merged with yours.

[ThePythonicCow]

There is already a thread posted about this http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29371-Andromeda-Council-War-with-Orion-grey-Draco-Reptilian-ETs-is-won-no-false-flag-ET&p=298109#post298109

Thanks. I have asked for this to be merged with yours.
Good catch guys. Thanks. Merge done.

[joedjemal]

I'm afraid I get the feeling he's lying. Listen to him during the talk about the pills, he's making it up as he goes along. All that uming and aahing while he works out what to say next. It's also lacking in a certain richness that truth has.

I believe what he said about the cloud though, I've seen that myself several times.

I think he's had a spiritual experience and blown it up into a great big fantasy.

[araucaria]

The planned geographic areas of the planet Earth that will be visited, in order of priority, are the following:

... 7. UK 8. France 9. Germany 10. Italy
11. European Union

An odd turn of phrase to say the least: like saying 7 California 8 Illinois 9 Massachusetts 10 Florida 11 USA

[onawah]

I think it's quite possible that an ordinary person who is open to extraordinary experiences could have a real connection with ETs while asleep and "lucid dreaming" or "astral traveling".
The problem is remembering the experience accurately, and all human experience is subject to inaccurate interpretation due to individual ego filters.
The only way to get a more accurate picture of such an event as Tolec related in the interview with A.L. Webre, assuming it was real, would be to get the impressions of all the human "witnesses" who he says were there at the time he was.
Similar to a roomful of remote viewers who are all asked to look at the same time/space/event, and asked the same questions about what happened. If enough of the viewers give the same responses, it can be assumed the data is accurate.

[The Truth Is In There]

below are some Q & A from the two interviews. interesting information, to say the least, especially with regard to the hopi prophecy, the most recent "alien from andromeda" information and zetatalk, among others. if what the guy says is true then it's quite a nice case of "connecting the dots".

"According to the Andromeda Council’s representative, these pending celestial body upgrades to our solar system include: (1) a brown dwarf destined to make our solar system a binary solar system; (2) a new planet inhabited by an advanced 3rd dimension intelligent human civilization; (3) and the negotiated passage of the inhabited planet Nibiru over our solar system so as to avoid entering our solar system, an outcome negotiated by the Andromeda Council itself in order to break the cycle of predation on Earth’s humanity by Nibiru’s inhabitants, the Annunaki."

[...]

1.) “What is – Elenin?

ANSWER: “It is a natural celestial body, a small comet, but made up of more rock than ice and gas. It literally ‘clears the way’ for the arrival of Tekoma (Tay koe-mah), a brown dwarf about the size of Uranus, trailing behind it. Elenin with its elliptical orbit will come into Earth’s solar system, in a manner of speaking deposit Tekoma, and then leave.”

2.) “Many people on Earth are aware of a pyramid shape that now seems to be located in place of, or covering Elenin. What is this about?”

ANSWER: “We are aware of technology, a monitoring device if you will, that is projecting a pyramid shaped force field over the general area of comet Elenin. It seems only when a problem would occur in space would this device be activated such as it was. It seems this technology is also keeping Elenin and Tekoma on course to minimize possible disruptions by Tekoma to Earth’s solar system.”

3.) “Then why is Elenin coming toward Earth’s solar system?”

ANSWER: “Elenin is simply clearing the way for Tekoma.”

4.) “Will the arrival of Elenin itself directly cause any disruptions or Earth changes?”

ANSWER: “no.”

5.) “Then what is Tekoma?”

ANSWER: “It is a brown dwarf about the size of the planet Uranus. It should arrive in Earth’s solar system approximately this coming mid-October 2011; and is expected to settle into this solar system as a new, albeit smaller, not quite as bright - second sun. It is expected to settle in place between Venus & Earth but much closer to Venus, than to Earth.”

[Editorial Note: During the ExopoliticsTV interview, when asked about the physical visibility of Tekoma stated that the Andromeda Council has indicated that Tekoma is now “cloaked” by a technological cloak or shield and invisible to Earth. Tolec stated he did not know when the “cloaking” mechanism would be removed, and Tekoma become visible as a “2nd Sun” in our solar system. Readers are encouraged to listen to the 2-part ExopoliticsTV interview.]

6.) “What about the possible disruptions to this solar system, more importantly to Earth, with the arrival of Tekoma?”

ANSWER: “A combination of multiple Andromeda Council biospheres, you could also call them planetoids, these are essentially very large star ships. They each have a compliment of a few thousand crew people. Collectively these biospheres will project their combined force fields to envelop and buffer planet Earth and many other planets in Earth’s solar system as Tekoma arrives. Their efforts will, as much as possible, minimize the potential vibratory effects and disruptions to planet Earth as Tekoma arrives and settles into place.”

[...]

9.) “Then what is Nihohia?”

ANSWER: “Nihohia (Nee-hoe-hee-ah) is a small planet accompanying Tekoma. It is smaller than Pluto, and it brings a very small moon with it. Both are in orbit very close to Tekoma. There are humans living under the planet surface of Nihohia in underground cities. Some people are what you would call Caucasian looking, and some are soft, pale blue skinned looking who are distant cousins of0 people of blue skinned heritage first written about in the oldest texts of ancient India. The races of Nihohia have inter-mixed as well. A person from Earth speaking Hindi today would in some manner be able to speak with these people. They are very calm, harmonious, peaceful people. They are also very highly evolved people. They do not fight among themselves, at all. It is their destiny to come to this solar system, to evolve into the 4th dimension, and to help Earth people with their own multi-faceted transition and transformation into this dimension.

There are underground tunnels that go to the various central cities where these people live today. They have technology. Specifically they have a force field in place to shield their planet. The force field protects their planet so that it will not break up, or be destroyed during their travels. Their moon has some space stations underground with people living in them. The same force field technology protecting Nihohia – protects its moon. These people have been moving around the cosmos in Nihohia for about a 100,000 years, and in a cordial friendly way they have communicated with many other civilizations & peoples along their journey. They are currently a 3rd dimensional world with 3rd dimensional people. They will transform into a 4th dimension world just like Earth. So will their people.”

10.) “What about Nibiru?”

ANSWER: “It is a planet about the size of Jupiter. It is trailing somewhat behind Tekoma.”

11.) “Is it inhabited; are there people living on, or underground, the planet Nibiru?”

ANSWER: “Yes. There are 4th dimensional people living on Nibiru. Nibiru’s people became 4th dimensional within the past 2,000 years of Earth time. They would be known to the people of Earth as – the Annunaki. But in reality the Annunaki are only a small portion, a small clan of the majority of the people who are known as the – Nibi (Nib-ee).”

12.) “What is going to happen in terms of Nibiru entering Earth’s solar system?”

ANSWER: “Nothing. Nibiru will not enter Earth’s Solar system. On behalf of the people of Earth, and the people of Nibiru - the Andromeda Council has negotiated with the people of Nibiru to not interfere with the people of Earth. As part of this negotiation the Andromeda Council has secured the help of 5th dimensional beings to use their technology to push the trajectory of Nibiru [and its moon(s)]0 to literally pass far over the top of Earth’s solar system.

“Therefore, there will be no ‘cause & effects’, no Earth changes caused from Nibiru passing over the top of Earth’s Solar system. None. To Earth’s solar system, it would feel as if a gentle breeze would be blowing by.”

13.) “Approximately when, which month of Earth time, will Nibiru pass over the top of Earth’s solar system?”

ANSWER: “Nibiru is projected to pass over the top of Earth’s solar system approximately sometime between late November to mid-December 2011. Again, to Earth’s solar system it would only feel as if a gentle breeze would be blowing by, nothing more.”

14.) “Even though 5th dimensional beings will use their technology to push the planned trajectory of Nibiru to instead pass over the top of Earth’s solar system; will there still be any cause & effects from Nibiru on this solar system; in terms of evoking any Earth changes or disruptions?”

ANSWER: “No. There will be no cause & effects from Nibiru passing over Earth’s solar system.”

more here: http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-update-on-elenin-brown-dwarf-nibiru-earth-changes-4d-earth

[apokalypse]

from what we hear about Elenin so far is positive in the world of possibility any thing can happen, might or might not happen. what Tolec have said but we considered its bull**** but it's good to hear his theories and possibilities than nothing.

you just can't sit on your ass wait for things comes to you, do what you have to do and don't wait for savior or anything to save us, by the time comes doesn't happen then you be in great disappointment or you in fall into deeper hole from TPTB. our job and our focus right now is to awake fight back these corporates/elites. Alex Collier have said we need to take responsibility.

[Hughe]

I listened to part 2.

By 2014, another star and a planet sits in our solar system. The axis of rotation of Earth will be straight, 90 degree shift of Earth crust(East becomes North, west becomes south).

[apokalypse]

New Interview with Tolec-Andromeda Council:Molecular & Cellular Transformation to a 4D Earth
By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, Med

This is the 3rd article in a series of articles on information of the Andromeda Council, a reported galactic governance council composed of selected star system representatives that carry out governance and development functions in a selected areas of our populated and organized galaxy and universe.

ED. NOTE: CAVEAT LECTOR - The opinions expressed in this article by interviewees are solely those of the interviewees and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of this reporter or Exopolitics.com. Thank you.

In an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre released Sept. 30, 2011 a self-described representative of the Andromeda Council, a reported galactic governance council whose membership consists of star systems and includes representation from the galactic governance council of our Milky Way Galaxy, discussed the purported timing and nature of a transformation via dimensional shift of our Sol solar system from a 3rd dimension to a 4th dimensional state, along with key aspects of life on a 4th dimensional Earth.

Timing of shift to 4th dimensional Earth

Addressing the reported timing of this dimensional shift, the Andromeda Council representative stated that the process of our solar system’s and Earth’s transformation via dimensional shift is scheduled to accelerate starting in mid-October 2011, and be completed by January 2014.

Key aspects of life on 4th dimensional Earth

Regarding the specific key aspects of life on 4th dimensional Earth, the Andromeda Council representative stated, “Again, the most important thing to realize is that this coming transformation, this transition, from 3D human to 4D human will be smooth, ‘seamless’, painless. Again, there is no death involved. This experience will be a simple transformation of cellular structure from the slower, denser, heavier, existing 3D vibratory rate you have today, to a higher, faster 4D vibratory rate. You will have a body that is taller, literally lighter in terms of mass, weight & density, and lighter in terms of being infused with light.

“Keep in mind, your body’s molecular cellular structure will change. Think crystal based molecules. Your 4D body, the cellular structure of your new 4D body, will be based on crystalline molecules. Your existing 3D cell walls will transmute into being crystalline based. Within the center of each cell, it will be full of light. Earth people, your 4D bodies will really be very translucent.”

About the Andromeda Council

Information as to what the Andromeda Council is and who Tolec (a reported Earth human representative of the Council) is can be found by clicking below.

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-update-on-elenin-brown-dwarf-nibiru-earth-changes-4d-earth

 
Watch ExopoliticsTV interview with reported Andromeda Council representative

Readers can watch exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview with reported Andromeda Council representative embedded above in the article or at the following URL.

WATCH INTERVIEW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpCV3pK6jY

Transformation to a 4th dimensional Earth

In his ExopoliticsTV interview Tolec discusses key aspects of the transformation to a 4th dimensional Earth. A written summary of this transformation, according to the reported Andromeda Council, is below.

FAQ: Molecular & Cellular transformation to a 4th Dimensional Earth Life

A REBORN, TRANSFORMED EARTH –A NEW LIFE

www.andromedacouncil.com

MOLECULAR & CELLULAR CHANGES TO A 4D LIFE -

NOTE:
3D – 3rd dimension
4D – 4th dimension
5D – 5th dimension

“QUESTION 1. Tolec, you’ve said the people you communicate with on the primary biosphere where many of the Andromeda Council meetings are held – that they are “excited” about our solar system & our planet’s migration into the 4th dimension. Why are they so excited about this change we are about to experience?

“ANSWER: First off, please understand, these original 5,000, now 50,000+ crew members, & their families, on this biosphere, and on the other biospheres, they’ve traveled a long way to help Earth with this coming shift. They are excited to be here & to help. And, up until recently it’s been a very challenging, difficult time because first they had to win a very hard war in space against an alliance of Orion Greys, Hydra, & Alpha Draconis Reptilians. Which they’ve done.

“And in the cleanup process down on Earth, various affiliated Andromeda Council races, especially those from Procyon, used highly focused sonic energy beams to bust-up & collapse underground bases including the ones around your nation’s capital leading up to the hills in Virginia, ones in Colorado, and northern New Mexico. Again, these were highly focused, pinpointed, sonic energy beam blasts meant to cripple the tunnel systems & underground bases where the Greys & Reptilians have been hiding. They had been warned many, many times to leave, and didn’t. So, a positive
intervention. My contacts called these tunnels & base a “lattice network”. They’re destroyed, collapsed & inoperable... and closed off. These were not nuclear blasts. They said, and I quote: “ we would never used nuclear weapons, we don’t need to. We are far beyond this kind of technology. Moreover, use of nuclear weapons would absolutely endanger the lives of the people on the planet surface. And, even worse, nuclear radiation is poisonous to all humans, to all life on Earth. These were not nuclear weapons but highly focused, pin-pointed, sonic energy beam blasts.”

“The Andromeda Council’s goal is to eliminate as many of these remaining ‘rats under the wood pile’ as soon as possible... before your migration & complete immersion into the 4th dimensional area of space. As I’ve mentioned, we are about 90-92% complete in the wrapping up of the ‘cleanup’ phase of the last holdouts of these Grey & Reptilian menaces here on Earth.

“So, back to the shift. Comparatively, this coming shift is nothing like anyone has experienced in a long, long, long time. A lot of things are happening with your solar system, all at once, which we are paying close attention to. And, this transformation you are about to experience is totally different because a whole solar system, your planet & its people get to become 4th dimensional human beings without having to “die”. Now, let me explain. From time memorial, normally humans on 3D planets like Earth get to live long or short lives, to have whatever overall learning experiences are best needed for their souls. When they die, rather when their bodies die their original birth spiritual essence, their soul, usually goes off planet for a while & decides, chooses, where it will incarnate next. Another 3D world like Earth, or Earth again. Or, if they feel they’ve really learned as much as they can over the course of many 3D lifetimes they can choose instead to migrate & live their lives in the 4th dimension on any number of 4D worlds. Or they can go back to their original 4D home world. This is the norm.

“Again, in the case of this coming shift, this transformation of your solar system and planet no one, nobody’s 3D body has to die to become a 4th dimensional human.

“QUESTION 2. That’s great. You’ve said on the Andromeda Council web site that as part of our transition into becoming 4th dimensional beings - people from planets affiliated with the Andromeda Council are coming here to Earth, will quietly land, and visit with us. What will these people be like?

“ANSWER: The people you can expect to meet are likely to come from four (4) affiliated Andromeda Council planets: Ventra, Nikotae, Toleka and Ritol. The people from all four planets are human just like you & I are. Here are the following physical traits and descriptions of all four:

“Ventra
“The people from this planet Ventra {Ven-tra} have white porcelain type skin, beautiful emerald green looking eyes or dark bluish purple eyes. They have fine strawberry blonde hair. The women are petite, about 5’ tall. The men are about 6’ – 6’ 2”.

“Nikotae
“The people from this planet Nikotae {Nee-koe-tay} have light creamy, to mid-mocha color skin. They would look to be very much like a person of mixed Caucasian & African races on your planet. These people are in fact of mixed races. Hair ranges in color from black to brown, of all different textures, short & tight to long & light curly & flowing. Their eyes are all colors of brown, dark to light, and some times people with the lighter colored brown eyes – they have gold flecks in their eyes. The women are generally about ’ tall. And the men range from about 6’5 - ’7”.

“Toleka
“The people from this planet Toleka {Toe-lecka} have beautiful, pale, very light green skin, with light blue almost aquamarine eyes. Their fine hair ranges from being almost silvery to very light blonde. With both the women & men, they would be considered have an average range of Earth human height. Their ears are slightly pointed. Think of the fictional “Vulcans” from your STAR TREK television shows.

“Ritol
“The majority of the original people from this planet Ritol {Ree tole} have light blue skin. They have thick full white hair. They have really deep, deep purple eyes.

“These people have also inter-mixed marriages with Caucasian looking people from a planet in the Tau Ceti star system, Loeki {Loke-ee} as a result, their light blue skin color gets even lighter. They have all different eye colors because of the inter-mixing of the races. Their hair is either black or red, also full & thick in appearance.

“For those people who have inter-mixed marriages with people you would consider to be ‘Native American’ looking, people from the planet Dakote, their look becomes a more ‘muted’ blue look. They have also married people from the planet Nikotae, people who have the light creamy to mid-mocha color skin. They have retained the texture of thick full hair. These people overall are very tall in height. They women are generally 7’ – 7’ 2” tall. The men are usually between 8’ – 8’2” tall.

“Ritol is very much a ‘melting pot’ kind of a planet, much like Earth.

“QUESTION 3. How will we be able to speak with these people who are from other planets?

“ANSWER: In order to be able to speak with you they will all be wearing ‘universal translators’ so they can converse in all Earth languages.

“QUESTION 4. Is this still scheduled to happen soon?

“ANSWER: Yes, they are pretty much on schedule to do this. It’s still very likely to happen this autumn. I believe sometime before October [2011] is finished. But, don’t hold me to this date.

“Because we are discussing timing happening around major cosmic events, the matter of "timing" concerning their initial contact & visitation date tends to be much more fluid. Therefore, I would ask people to please be patient about this particular topic.

“QUESTION 5. O.K. then. So the Andromeda Council web site talks about all sorts of important things they have to share with us. What’s the big deal: what don’t we know about ourselves?

“ANSWER: Great question. Primarily you’ll learn about your own true heritage, the truth of your origin, of your original human physical form, where among the various stars & planets across the Universe that Earth people originally came from, who your - cousins, brothers and sisters are, who your ancestors truly are and why you are so special. You’ll learn about the truth and reality of the human spiritual origin and its true essence. You’ll learn about the reality, creation & sacredness of the human soul, and its connection with the Creation, and all sentient life throughout the Universe.

“There is much more of course. But, that’s their job. I’ll let them tell you.

“QUESTION 6. Well, ok. All right. So, back to our new 4D bodies then. So, January 1, 2014 arrives and we begin living as 4th dimensional people. How will Earth people change in terms of their body structure as new 4D humans?

“ANSWER: Again, the most important thing to realize is that this coming transformation, this transition, from 3D human to 4D human will be smooth, ‘seamless’, painless. Again, there is no death involved. This experience will be a simple transformation of cellular structure from the slower, denser, heavier, existing 3D vibratory rate you have today, to a higher, faster 4D vibratory rate. You will have a body that is taller, literally lighter in terms of mass, weight & density, and lighter in terms of being infused with light.

“Keep in mind, your body’s molecular cellular structure will change. Think crystal based molecules. Your 4D body, the cellular structure of your new 4D body, will be based on crystalline molecules. Your existing 3D cell walls will transmute into being crystalline based. Within the center of each cell, it will be full of light. Earth people, your 4D bodies will really be very translucent.

“For all the living adults who choose to remain on Earth during this time of change, you will look approximately in the 32 -35 year old age range.

“In terms of height, for a comparison, an average 3D male today at 5’10” the equivalent 4th dimensional male will be about 7ft tall, this is the average height for a 4D man. A 5’ 5” – 5’ 6” 3D Earth woman will likely be about ’6 2” living a 4D life. An average 4D Earth man will weigh in Earth terms about: 10-15 pounds. An average 4D Earth woman will weigh about: 5-7 pounds. Everyone will be relatively trim, slim in stature. This is simply due to the nature of having a body composed of crystalline cellular structure.

“In terms of overall health, 4D Earth humans will be healthy, literally full of light. Earth type 3D diseases will all be literally eradicated.

“QUESTION 7. If we are this healthy, and with the eradication of 3D Earth diseases, how long will we live as 4D Earth humans?

“ANSWER: You will like this answer, this is a really good answer. Typically, as you currently measure time on Earth, human beings living a 4D life spend a minimum of 5,000 years - to - a maximum of around 10,000 years... living a 4th dimensional life. Also understand, there are 12 octaves of awareness & learning on each dimension, including the 4th. There is a lot to experience. Please keep in mind, the use of these numbers in years is to give you at least an approximation based on how Earth people measure time today. However, also keep in mind, the way you currently measure time on Earth – this will change once Earth becomes a completely 4D planet. Watching, measuring, experiencing time... this will virtually go away. Plan for this to completely come into effect by January 2014. In any case, you will live very, very long lives... before you move on to the 5th dimension.

“QUESTION 8. What do you mean move on... when do we die?

“ANSWER: No, no, you misunderstand. This too is a really good answer. You don't die. Remember, time doesn't exist from the 4th dimension on upward. You don't experience time. And people living a 4D life do not die. A person can choose by really extraordinary circumstances to be “extinguished”, but this is very, very rare. When a 4D person gets to the point when they are 6,000 -10,000 years old', when they feel they have learned enough & contributed enough to society, when the moment is right for them, they simply choose to move on, to transition to the 5th dimension, a slightly higher frequency of vibratory awareness. For a new set of challenges, a new set of learning experiences. It
is a transition, a change in vibration. This transition is simply about first learning, and then moving into 5th dimensional vibration awareness, and capabilities when the moment is right for them. Further, the actual capabilities a person has once they become a 5th dimensional human these are only a few degrees enhanced above the 4th. In any case, moving on from one dimension to the next is about having learned many, many things, and a simple choice to move on, to change. You do not die.”

How to evaluate the reality of the reported Andromeda Council scenario for transformation to a 4D Earth

1. No independent evidence – As Tolec states in his ExopoliticsTV interview, there is no independent evidence of the actual communications from a reported Andromeda Council extraterrestrial representative regarding the above scenario for transformation of the solar system and of the Earth to a 4th dimension. What we have are Tolec’s communications to us of experiences and communications he is having with the reported Andromeda Council extraterrestrial representatives themselves. One can evaluate the possible reality of the reported Andromeda Council scenario for transformation to a 4D Earth by testing its congruence with other independent findings or reliable assertions.

2. Nuclear explosions or “sonic energy beam blasts” – As discussed in the ExopoliticsTV interview, the Andromeda Council communication claims that the ‘earthquake’ caused by the August 23, 2011 shallow earthquake was due to its “sonic energy beam blasts” destroying Orion grey and Draco reptilian bases under Washington, DC and Denver Colo.

There is a division of scientific opinion on this issue. Sterling D. Allan, director of the New Energy Congress, arguing the case for a nuclear explosion for the Aug. 23, 2011 earthquake. Mr. Allen states, "The sudden spike shown in both the very unusual DC and Denver earthquakes on August 23 are consistent with an explosion from a sub-surface nuclear bomb. A recent interview of Benjamin Fulford by David Wilcock gives some intriguing possibilities about a counter coup, and hope for release of suppressed energy technologies.

"Today I've received a phone call and a number of emails from people referring to an interview that David Wilcock conducted recently with Benjamin Fulford, who asserts that the recent DC and Denver Quakes were spurred by underground nukes wiping out two of the New World Order bunkers by ‘white hat’ elements in the U.S. Pentagon, signaling the end of days for the dark cabal that have been running the planet for millennia. The interview concludes with a discussion about how with this victory over the dark elements of the former powers-that-be, that many hitherto suppressed energy technologies will soon be released.

"It's all a bit difficult to believe, and I probably wouldn't be mentioning it to you were it not for some hard facts that support the key points about the earthquakes not being natural. They have the same seismological signature as what accompanies a nuclear blast detonated a few miles below the Earth's surface."

Another independent scientist notes that the same earthquake signatures are consistent not nuclear weapons, but with directed energy or frequency weapons, or the type of weapons described by the reported Andromeda Council.

3. Transformation from a 3rd dimensional Earth to a 4th dimensional Earth – Researcher David Wilcock argues in his new book, The Source Field Investigations, that humanity finds itself at the convergence of multiple cycles – 25,920 years, 60 million years, and 265 million years - each of which is accompanied by evolutionary transformation. The transformation described by the Andromeda Council communications of transformation via dimensional shift from a 3rd dimensional Earth to a 4th dimensional Earth could be construed as congruent with the sort of evolutionary change that can be expected in the 2011-13 period as being accompanying the completion of a 25,920 years cycle of the precession of the equinoxes, and the 60 million year and 265 million year cycles for the disappearance of old species and sudden appearance of new species.

4. Description of the 4th dimensional Earth appears to be congruent with research on the nature of the human ‘afterlife’ or ‘Inter-life’ – As discussed in the ExopoliticsTV interview, the Andromeda Council communications’ description of life in a 4th dimensional Earth seems in significant respects to be congruent with scientific descriptions of the human afterlife or ‘Interlife’, as described in over 7000 cases of hypnotic regression of soul memories of the human afterlife or interlife.

Please see:

Human souls common to extraterrestrials and earthlings, researcher says

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/human-souls-common-to-extraterrestrials-and-earthlings-researcher-says

One function of the transformation via dimensional shift from a 3D Earth to a 4D Earth, if valid, appears to be the ‘upgrading’ of Earthly life to eliminate physical death (“And death shall have no dominion”), and shift the entire solar system including Earth in to what was formerly described by religious traditions as “Heaven” or “Paradise”. From this point of view, the transformation via dimensional shift from 3D Earth to a 4D Earth would indeed be perceived by 4D humans as the landing of ‘Paradise on Earth’.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Andromeda Council: Molecular & Cellular Transformation to a 4D Earth - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-transformation-to-a-4th-dimensional-earth-life#ixzz1ZaR1O5Bu

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-transformation-to-a-4th-dimensional-earth-life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpCV3pK6jY&feature=player_embedded
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if you aware of Santo Bonacci of materials he also said the changes are coming to Golden Age...will be great if this true but i don't live on and it consider it as supplement. Mankind got alot of work to do.

[jagman]

http://youtu.be/te6qG4yn-Ps

[salicemspiritus]

This has sparked my interest. Whoever created andromedacouncil.com (http://www.andromedacouncil.com) did so through domainsbyproxy.com (https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/Default.aspx) as to conceal their information, and appears to have created the site using Intuit SiteBuilder by Homestead (http://www.homestead.com/).

[KosmicKat]

Just checked my calendar. Looks like we can continue to wait on this one.

[apokalypse]

Andromeda Council: Removing Draco & Hydra reptilian undersea bases from the Middle East and China 7sy-QWgq_yY


5.0 Gulf of Aden quake: Andromeda Council sonic beam destroys reptilian undersea base -aQ1x2ESwas

i find this interesting...

[Omni]

I've supposedly had contact with the andromedan council lately, they do not fight to the death with the Orion group. It's a spiritual war, like a chess game between professor X and Magneto except they don't really love each other so much.....

[Fundy Gemini]

This is at once all so fascinating and very confusing -

I remember seeing the mysterious 'VICTOR' interview and his supposed smuggled alien interview video - no matter what one thinks of that, he said in that interview something that struck me very hard .. to paraphrase it was .. that no matter what, in working with the entities, there is no reason to ever believe that they are not in total control (I think he made the analogy of the man patting the dog with love and comfort while taking it to the vet's for the 'needle' )

Soooo - I get very concerned about taking the word of any 'entity' that delivers information either in person or through channeling - example- there is Dr. Carol Rosen (if I've got her name right??) and she has done such tremendous work (and I feel from it's from the heart), to STOP the weaponization of space by all countries *but* this is based on Verner Van Braun (Nazi agenda perhaps???) and also a face-to-face alien encounter (alien agenda perhaps???) - Is space not ALREADY weaponized (by one agenda, without any check?)

So the question is - how do we EVER know, and how can we not admit how easy it would be to manipulate us?

In my mind we are left only to pray for love and peace, to surround ourselves, humanity and the planet in a protective white light of LOVE - and that is the only thing we have any control of.

(I'm so happy to have found a place to rant these strange thoughts without being institutionalized..hahaha)

[transiten]

Ha ha Fundy, you posted at 20.02 on page 2 of 2 and ended with :love:2 All...............Nice compilation and also have come to the point i don't even have the energy to read through this post...but some years ago i would have:yo:

[Fundy Gemini]

[ re: Ha ha Fundy, you posted at 20.02 on page 2 of 2 and ended with 2 All...............Nice compilation ..]

Dear Transiten -
I guess according to your time my post was at 20.02 (but my time shows 15.02) so I wasn't sure what that meant -but- I just noticed that the thread I started (What Makes You Happy) was entered at 22.02 so now I'm wondering what (according to your knowledge) that means to you? I'm not familiar with numerology, but I thought it a strange synchronicity anyway :dance3:

[apokalypse]

another update from Tolec...

Andromeda Council: East China Sea 6.9 quake - undersea reptilian base destroyed
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-east-china-sea-6-9-quake-undersea-reptilian-base-destroyed#ixzz1dGL8d1fe


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Assume all of this is true but we as mankind have work to do on our part is to awake and aware turn this planet earth into unconditional love-responsibility utopia society...nobody going to save us but ourself

[another bob]

I've supposedly had contact with the andromedan council lately, they do not fight to the death with the Orion group. It's a spiritual war, like a chess game between professor X and Magneto except they don't really love each other so much.....

Greetings, Friend!

There's been a lot of rumor and speculation about warfare on the so-called spiritual levels, and I am wondering now, given your more direct experience, if you could elaborate somewhat on your research in that area? Perhaps some clarity/background on the various opposing factions, their historical goals, and any perspective regarding the role of humanity in the midst of this conflict would be most appreciated.

Thanks again for your efforts!

Blessings!

[OnyxKnight]

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look like i have back to alex collier and other material on Andromeda council...

2 things those et could help us is let mankind know about our true past, the evolution and the history of earth since the beginning. who are we and where we as mankind from? did aliens manipulated us over thousands or millions years ago? if yes then who and how it happen? how we got into this mess if ...if human know about our true past then the game will be over.

That "Tolec" guy is a fraud. He rehashed the Collier material and added a few original remarks and called everything quits regarding the domination of this planet.