Gobekli Tepe

[The One]

Göbekli Tepe, is a hilltop sanctuary erected on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge some 15 km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa, in southeastern Turkey and 500 miles away from Istanbul, Turkey. It is the most astonishing archaeological discovery in modern times and also thought to be the oldest advanced civilization on Earth.

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[beyondmyctrl]

I love this kind of sh!t it's so fascinating ! thanks for posting :) when is mainstream archaeology gonna wake up and get their heads outta their a$ses and start looking at this stuff seriously ? Time to change the history books guys.....

[Senso]

Thank you "One" . . . you post some amazing and enlightening knowledge - i thank you very much :-) Senso

[the trojan]

I love this kind of sh!t it's so fascinating ! thanks for posting :) when is mainstream archaeology gonna wake up and get their heads outta their a$ses and start looking at this stuff seriously ? Time to change the history books guys.....

Since Turkey have recently stood up to the challenge that is Israel,you may be right,the history books will be changed when nato go in and raze this place to the ground!

[ktlight]

Since Turkey have recently stood up to the challenge that is Israel,you may be right,the history books will be changed when nato go in and raze this place to the ground!

I wish you would not see that NATO will go in and raze the place to the ground. If you would stop seeing it so vehemently then it is highly possible that it will not happen. I hope you get it.

[the trojan]

Since Turkey have recently stood up to the challenge that is Israel,you may be right,the history books will be changed when nato go in and raze this place to the ground!

I wish you would not see that NATO will go in and raze the place to the ground. If you would stop seeing it so vehemently then it is highly possible that it will not happen. I hope you get it.

how do you know I am seeing it so vehemently? (HUMOUR)

I know what you are getting at,I understand the whole intent thing,
but Ive tried to visualise stuff on my own before and i reckon it takes at least a couple of million souls focussing on the same intent for it to come true!

I am just commenting on current affairs.
hey ,I invented the phrase,FEARPORN!

im sure I posted it on here,it will be date stamped,I will be back in a minute.........................

[The One]

Ancient structures uncovered in Turkey and thought to be the world's oldest temples may not have been strictly religious buildings after all, according to an article in the October issue of Current Anthropology. Archaeologist Ted Banning of the University of Toronto argues that the buildings found at Göbekli Tepe may have been houses for people, not the gods.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Smithsonian_map_g%C3%B6bekli_tepe.jpg

The buildings at Göbekli, a hilltop just outside of the Turkish city of Urfa, were found in 1995 by Klaus Schmidt of the German Archaeological Institute and colleagues from the Şanlıurfa Museum in Turkey. The oldest of the structures at the site are immense buildings with large stone pillars, many of which feature carvings of snakes, scorpions, foxes, and other animals.


http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/gobeklitepe_nov08_4.jpg

The presence of art in the buildings, the substantial effort that must have been involved in making and erecting them, and a lack of evidence for any permanent settlement in the area, led Schmidt and others to conclude that Göbekli must have been a sacred place where pilgrims traveled to worship, much like the Greek ruins of Delphi or Olympia. If that interpretation is true it would make the buildings, which date back more than 10,000 years to the early Neolithic, the oldest temples ever found.

However, Banning offers an alternative interpretation that challenges some of Schmidt's claims.

Göbekli Tepe site
http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/gobeklitepe_nov08_631.jpg

He outlines growing archaeological evidence for daily activities at the site, such as flintknapping and food preparation. "The presence of this evidence suggests that the site was not, after all, devoid of residential occupation, but likely had quite a large population," Banning said.

Archaeological evidence for domestic art from the Neolithic period exists as well, Banning says, such as the wall paintings at Çatalhöyük, another archaeological site in Turkey.

Banning suggests that the purported temples may instead have been large communal houses, "similar in some ways to the large plank houses of the Northwest Coast of North America with their impressive house posts and totem poles."

"If so, they would likely have housed quite large households that might provide an extremely early example of what the French anthropologist, Claude Lévi-Strauss, called 'house societies,'" Banning said. "Such societies often use house structures for competitive display, locations for rituals, and explicit symbols of social units."

It is … likely that some of these buildings were the locus for a variety of rituals, probably including feasts, mortuary rites, magic, and initiations," he writes. "Yet there is generally no reason to presume a priori, even when these are as impressive as the buildings at Göbekli Tepe, that they were not also people's houses."

Head of statue found at Gobekli Tepe, world's oldest stone statue of man
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/features/2005/07/images/061122statue.jpg

E. B. Banning, "So Fair a House: Göbekli Tepe and the Identification of Temples in the Pre-Pottery Neolithic of the Near East." Current Anthropology 52:5 (October 2011).

Current Anthropology is a transnational journal devoted to research on humankind, encompassing the full range of anthropological scholarship on human cultures and on the human and other primate species. The journal is published by The University of Chicago Press and sponsored by the Wenner-Gren Foundation for Anthropological Research.

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German archeologist Klaus Schmidt, from the German Archaeological Institute, who have been working as the head archeologist at Göbekli Tepe, a temple site located in southeastern Turkey close to the boarder to Syria. Klaus has been excavating there since 1994 and he talked to Red Ice Radio about the excavation work, and to give us his impressions and theories about the site and the people who built it and worshiped at this ancient temple site.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1195/823/12,000_Year_Old_Unexplained_Advanced_Structures_at_Gobekli_Tepe.html

[mojo]

Hi The One,
Thank you for this thread. For the past month or so I have been having dreams of Göbekli Tepe. On more than one occasion during skywatching the name has popped into my head. I have no idea why? Today I just watched a coast to coast show with Richard Hoagland and he mentions that Göbekli Tepe might be part of the a 2012 event. I thought there might be some synchronicity in this. cheers...

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[Cidersomerset]

Thanks TheOne vindicates Graham Hancocks work, the big worry is will mainstream archaeology debunk it !!!!

They still think the Egyptions built the Gt.Pyrimids and uptill now only seem to follow Darwins theory of evolution, so be ready for some stupid explanation for something that looks a lot more exotic than something built by few hunter gathers.....Steve


Listening to Klaus Smitz he is firmly in conventional archaeology thats what I was afraid of ,
If he has any imagination he was to scared to share it. His explanation that it is a temple for
occasional use by hunter gathers does not feel right to me, theres a lot more to it than that imho..

[Cidersomerset]

Mainstream have been forced to review there ideas on civilisation pushing
it back to 11,000 -15,000 yrs ago Closer to what Graham Hancock & others
have been proposing for years .......Suggesting even earlier knowledge.


Gobekli Tepe - THE OLDEST TEMPLE IN THE WORLD

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Published on 24 Feb 2013


Göbekli Tepe Turkish: [ɡøbe̞kli te̞pɛ][2] ("Potbelly Hill"[3]) is a Neolithic hilltop
sanctuary erected at the top of a mountain ridge in the Southeastern Anatolia
Region of Turkey, some 15 kilometers (9 mi) northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa
(formerly Urfa / Edessa). It is the oldest known human-made religious structure.[1][
4] The site was most likely erected in the 10th millennium BCE and has been under
excavation since 1994 by German and Turkish archaeologists.[5] Together with
Nevalı Çori, it has revolutionized understanding of the Eurasian Neolithic.

Göbekli Tepe is located in southeastern Turkey. It was first noted in a survey
conducted by Istanbul University and the University of Chicago in 1964, which
recognized that the hill could not entirely be a natural feature and postulated that a
Byzantine cemetery lay beneath. The survey noted a large number of flints and the
presence of limestone slabs thought to be Byzantine grave markers. This work was
first mentioned in print in Peter Benedict's article "Survey Work in Southeastern
Anatolia" (1980). In 1994, archaeologist Klaus Schmidt of the German
Archaeological Institute of Istanbul noted Benedict's article and visited the site,
recognizing that it was in fact a much older Neolithic site. Since 1995[7]
excavations have been conducted by the German Archaeological Institute of
Istanbul and the Şanlıurfa Museum, under the direction of Schmidt (University of
Heidelberg 1995--2000, German Archaeological Institute 2001--present). The hill
had been under agricultural cultivation before being excavated. Generations of local
inhabitants had frequently moved rocks and placed them in clearance piles and
much archaeological evidence may have been destroyed in the process. Scholars
from the Hochschule Karlsruhe began documenting the architectural remains and
soon discovered T-shaped pillars facing south-east. Some of these pillars had
apparently undergone attempts at destruction, probably by farmers who mistook
them for ordinary large rocks.

[Cidersomerset]

Red Ice Radio - Linda Moulton Howe - Gobekli Tepe

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Earthfiles founder and investigator Linda Moulton Howe on
Red Ice Radio discussing one of the oldest sites on earth, Gobekli Tepe.

[Cidersomerset]

After listening to Linda's piece above she mentions near the end that the
structures at Gobekli Tepi looked like tuning forks and other ancient sites
were possibly doing the same.It reminded me of a item I saw on Davids site
yesterday that scientists discovered the universe was made up of information.

Ion says the Universe is made up of frequencies, so it makes sence our
ancestors were maybe trying to tap in,and the elite/priest classes knew
how, with or without ET help ???


http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/GobekliTepe_site_reconstr.jpg




Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of information
(as David Icke has been saying all these years): Here's what it means

Sunday, 12 May 2013 11:30

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20137/universe-space-planet-moon.jpg

'As quantum physics can now confirm, the universe we live in is not made up of
solid objects but of energy and information. This discovery holds vast implications
for understanding the nature of our world and in understanding the true source of
vibrant health. It also means that it is possible to encapsulate all the concepts
discussed in the world of holistic natural health into a single unified theory.'

Read more: Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of
information (as David Icke has been saying all these years): Here's what it means

http://www.naturalnews.com/040292_information_universal_truth_health.html

[ghostrider]

Wait till they learn , high technology was as far back as 289,000 years ago ...brought to our ancestors by the sons of heaven ... I love earth history and the acient past ... if the world only knew where we really came from ... and the help we've had, and all the star people that are pulling for us... no to mention all the ET folk here at avalon working behind the scenes for humanity ... many thanks to the those that meditate and let there energy be focused where the spirit leads them ... we need you ... :wizard:

[mojo]

any origins about the name? The name itself sounds so cool, hello my name is Gobleki Tepe...;)

[grannyfranny100]

I find it hard to believe that people invented religion which is an abstract notion before they adopted agriculture which is just a step beyond hunting and gathering. Of course if these classically trained academics espoused a theory that perhaps otherworldly intelligences taught them how to use sound to move objects, I personally could accept that more readily. Different strokes for different folks.

[Cidersomerset]

I find it hard to believe that people invented religion which is an abstract notion before they adopted agriculture which is just a step beyond hunting and gathering. Of course if these classically trained academics espoused a theory that perhaps otherworldly intelligences taught them how to use sound to move objects, I personally could accept that more readily. Different strokes for different folks

Like mainstream Egyptologists to the archaeologists on 'Time Team' which I enjoy, There mind set is still governed by the fact modern humans
are still new entities, and for them to go back to the last Ice age is an achievement..LOL.... I think we are much older possibly millions of years
old. Ion Says the original earth continent with the Lemurian civilisation is very old. Billy Meier Plajeran info puts our common ancestors way
back as well. We still have a while for mainstream to acknowledge these or other possibilities...imo...LOl..





Default Re: Billy Meier and Ptaah (ET) talking about 2012....Contact 476 3/2/2009



Thanks Whitefeather I'm with you brother !!

Billy Meier - GODS OF THE EARTH WERE HUMAN



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As far as I'm concerned if you have belief and want to believe in
a deity thats fine by me....

I like the concept we are all gods on a journey back to our power
and we are not very far away from regaining it !! But thats another
story .. Steve

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43426-Billy-Meier-and-Ptaah--ET--talking-about-2012....Contact-476-3-2-2009&p=550893&highlight=Billy+meier#post550893

[Cidersomerset]

Wait till they learn , high technology was as far back as 289,000 years ago ...brought to our ancestors by the sons of heaven ... I love earth history and the acient past ... if the world only knew where we really came from ... and the help we've had, and all the star people that are pulling for us... no to mention all the ET folk here at avalon working behind the scenes for humanity ... many thanks to

I quite like this, it may or maynot be correct, but makes you think far beyond the 'mainstream Box'.........


History of our Alien Ancestors on Earth...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...67358447206356



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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43426-Billy-Meier-and-Ptaah--ET--talking-about-2012....Contact-476-3-2-2009&p=550893&highlight=Billy+meier#post550893

[Cidersomerset]

any origins about the name? The name itself sounds so cool, hello my name is Gobleki Tepe...

Before excavation the landscape was a scattering of 'potbelly hillocks'
hence the name....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7165645930_bc578c3abb_z.jpg

Sunday, June 12, 2011

Göbekli Tepe means Potbelly Hill



Tepe means hill, mound or knoll in Turkish. In southeastern Turkey, north of the
border of Syria and north (or within) the Fertile Crescent of the Neolithic, we find
place names such as Ziyaret Tepe, Kenan Tepe and Göbekli Tepe on today's
archaeological maps [1-5]. All these tepes and the surrounding areas are digging
sites. Göbekli Tepe is located nine miles to the east of the Turkish town of
Şanlıurfa, (also known by the shorter name Urfa). Göbekli Tepe means Potbelly Hill.
Local people gave this name to the site, which is part of a ridge and has the shape
of a rounded crest [5].

Being much older than Stonehenge, Göbekli Tepe has made a lot of headlines over
recent years as the first temple and spiritual meeting place (sometimes with a
question mark [4]). Among the mysteries and fascinating artworks of this neolithic
architecture are the relief animals carved in its stone pillars. There also is a fierce-
looking creature erupting from a limestone wall, similar to sculptures we find at
gothic church buildings.

The archaeologist Klaus Schmidt of the German Archaeological Institue (DAI), who
is researching this site for over ten years together with European and Turkish
scientists, gives us hints that excavation results can be interpreted in various ways.
Was this a spiritual locus or a Neolithic Tivoli Garden? Further, this place has a
Trojan dimensions, at least in the vertical direction: Schmidt is not certain if the
bottom layer has been uncovered yet. Göbekli Tepe may change our understanding
of the history of civilization. Schmidt makes an interesting point that the common
belief (twenty years ago) was, that civilization was driven by ecological forces, but
that we are now learning that civilization is a product of the human mind [5].
Whatever the driving forces behind this site, we at least can agree in the spirit of
Louis Armstrong and Fats Domino: I found my thrill on Potbelly Hill!


http://golatintos.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/gobekli-tepe-means-potbelly-hill.html

[LahTera]

They estimate the place to be 11,500 years old, and in some areas nearby, even older. The area is in Turkey. The video is about 45 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBBBn-2Pwg

:eek:

[Cidersomerset]

This is one I have heard about and have put up a couple threads about, this seems
to link up with what Graham Hancock has been saying something big happened
about 12500 years ago.

I don't think I have watched this one yet ? Oh yes I have LOL

Oh well worth watching again..LOL

sLBBBn-2Pwg

[Cidersomerset]

Gobekli Tepe....Lost Civilisation...2013 update documentry

Mainstream have been forced to review there ideas on civilisation pushing
it back to 11,000 -15,000 yrs ago Closer to what Graham Hancock & others
have been proposing for years .......Suggesting even earlier knowledge.


Gobekli Tepe

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Published on 24 Feb 2013


Göbekli Tepe Turkish: [ɡøbe̞kli te̞pɛ][2] ("Potbelly Hill"[3]) is a Neolithic hilltop
sanctuary erected at the top of a mountain ridge in the Southeastern Anatolia
Region of Turkey, some 15 kilometers (9 mi) northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa
(formerly Urfa / Edessa). It is the oldest known human-made religious structure.[1][
4] The site was most likely erected in the 10th millennium BCE and has been under
excavation since 1994 by German and Turkish archaeologists.[5] Together with
Nevalı Çori, it has revolutionized understanding of the Eurasian Neolithic.

Göbekli Tepe is located in southeastern Turkey. It was first noted in a survey
conducted by Istanbul University and the University of Chicago in 1964, which
recognized that the hill could not entirely be a natural feature and postulated that a
Byzantine cemetery lay beneath. The survey noted a large number of flints and the
presence of limestone slabs thought to be Byzantine grave markers. This work was
first mentioned in print in Peter Benedict's article "Survey Work in Southeastern
Anatolia" (1980). In 1994, archaeologist Klaus Schmidt of the German
Archaeological Institute of Istanbul noted Benedict's article and visited the site,
recognizing that it was in fact a much older Neolithic site. Since 1995[7]
excavations have been conducted by the German Archaeological Institute of
Istanbul and the Şanlıurfa Museum, under the direction of Schmidt (University of
Heidelberg 1995--2000, German Archaeological Institute 2001--present). The hill
had been under agricultural cultivation before being excavated. Generations of local
inhabitants had frequently moved rocks and placed them in clearance piles and
much archaeological evidence may have been destroyed in the process. Scholars
from the Hochschule Karlsruhe began documenting the architectural remains and
soon discovered T-shaped pillars facing south-east. Some of these pillars had
apparently undergone attempts at destruction, probably by farmers who mistook
them for ordinary large rocks.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59088-Gobekli-Tepe....Lost-Civilisation...2013-update-documentry


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Red Ice Radio - Linda Moulton Howe - Gobekli Tepe

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Earthfiles founder and investigator Linda Moulton Howe on
Red Ice Radio discussing one of the oldest sites on earth, Gobekli Tepe.


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After listening to Linda's piece above she mentions near the end that the
structures at Gobekli Tepi looked like tuning forks and other ancient sites
were possibly doing the same.It reminded me of a item I saw on Davids site
yesterday that scientists discovered the universe was made up of information.

Ion says the Universe is made up of frequencies, so it makes sence our
ancestors were maybe trying to tap in,and the elite/priest classes knew
how, with or without ET help ???


http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/GobekliTepe_site_reconstr.jpg




Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of information
(as David Icke has been saying all these years): Here's what it means

Sunday, 12 May 2013 11:30

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20137/universe-space-planet-moon.jpg

'As quantum physics can now confirm, the universe we live in is not made up of
solid objects but of energy and information. This discovery holds vast implications
for understanding the nature of our world and in understanding the true source of
vibrant health. It also means that it is possible to encapsulate all the concepts
discussed in the world of holistic natural health into a single unified theory.'

Read more: Quantum physics has confirmed it - the universe is comprised of
information (as David Icke has been saying all these years): Here's what it means

http://www.naturalnews.com/040292_information_universal_truth_health.html

a bit more on link...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59088-Gobekli-Tepe....Lost-Civilisation...2013-update-documentry

[Ellisa]

It's baffling isn't it? Personally I believe that the origin of civilisation will be pushed further back the more we discover. It is looking more and more as though the catastrophic events of 12,000 or so years ago meant that we lost a lot of our collective memories, and also our history. It certainly had all began a lot earlier than the we thought. The pyramids were not there at the start, but neither was Stonehenge, as was shown recently by the discovery of the immense 'temple' complex in northern Scotland. But Gobecki Tepe looks as though it is going to be one of the most significant finds of all. Those 'tuning fork' things are amazing.

However one of the most interesting things about this site is that it had been buried, deliberately, in sand- presumably to bury it but not destroy it. They thought it would be there when they returned.

[good point]

I was looking for this information. I lost it in a 12 hour time-deletion file, among several gb of anthropology sourced in data via tpb.

[Wind]

New photos:
http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/gobekli-tepe-new-photos.html

[Delight]

John Anthony West on Capricorn Radio with James Swagger. Recorded on August 13th, 2013.
Host E.A.James Swagger discusses Ancient Egypt and Gobekli Tepe with his Guest John Anthony West.

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[mahalall]

When synchronising with the place the image of a benign dog/man spirit with white face and whiskers enters dream scape.
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[lotos]

Here is video visit and comments of dr. Semir Osmanagich, independent researcher and founder of project Bosnian pyramids. With subtitles may be easier to follow , because there was a noise in background work on site.
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[Cidersomerset]

http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/images/easter-island-bird-man-british-museum-gobekli-tepe.2.jpg

What is interesting about Dr.Semir Osmagich is he is comparing the
statues to the early civilisation on Easter Island, which is something
I thought about but did not mention it on the Graham Hancock /Gobekli
tepe thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71613-Graham-Hancock-Ancient-Man-and-Our-Mysterious-Origins-Gobekli-Tepe-Roundtable-march-2014

This is speculation but Bob & Ion talk about virtually every subject
you can thing of in their thousands of conversations both private
and public. Ion said that the Lemurians were responsible for the
Easter Island statues and they look like us but have more reptilian
DNA in them and are still amongst us today. ( this obviously makes
you think of David Icke and others) but Ion says they are not like
that and are just a parallel race living here in some ways superior
and others not so, that came here from Lemuria. Whether this is
true or not who knows ? but ithas intrigued me since they talked
about it........

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5_-EQQGJTv8/U2GTK8LCigI/AAAAAAAAM6Q/KD4j7RLKSd8/s1600/ion_bob_header2_tilt2.png

Sunday, November 3, 2013

Lemurians | Lizard People

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bDLPKLy6yvw/UnaO0wCaaII/AAAAAAAALGw/4-qxlIgzsRg/s1600/1.jpg


http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/ion_lemurians_lizard_people.mp3


Payday


Listen

Bob Dobbs’ private session 267, 24 August 2010.

[Joanne Shepard]

Here is video visit and comments of dr. Semir Osmanagich, independent researcher and founder of project Bosnian pyramids. With subtitles may be easier to follow , because there was a noise in background work on site.
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Thank You so much for this youtube Lotos, I love it :)

[Cidersomerset]

This developing part of the alternate field , has fascinated me for decades as I
have said on the many threads I've posted on, and vids/doc's watched over the
years, some are linked below.This is Linda Moulton Howes expert and journalistic
view of current events gained from her years of investigations in all parts of the
alternate areas of learning and interpretation of events the mainstream ignore.

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Ancient Göbekli Tepe Who Built It, When, and Why ?

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Published on 21 May 2015


Göbekli Tepe (Turkish: [ɡøbe̞kli te̞pɛ], "Potbelly Hill") is an archaeological site at the
top of a mountain ridge in the Southeastern Anatolia Region of Turkey,
approximately 12 km (7 mi) northeast of the city of Şanlıurfa. The tell has a height
of 15 m (49 ft) and is about 300 m (984 ft) in diameter. It is approximately 760 m
(2,493 ft) above sea level. It has been excavated by a German archaeological team
that was under the direction of Klaus Schmidt from 1996 until his death in 2014.

The tell includes two phases of ritual use dating back to the 10th-8th millennium
BCE. During the first phase (Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA)), circles of massive
T-shaped stone pillars were erected. More than 200 pillars in about 20 circles are
currently known through geophysical surveys. Each pillar has a height of up to 6 m
(20 ft) and a weight of up to 20 tons. They are fitted into sockets that were hewn
out of the bedrock. In the second phase (Pre-pottery Neolithic B (PPNB)), the
erected pillars are smaller and stood in rectangular rooms with floors of polished
lime. Topographic scans have revealed that other structures next to the hill,
awaiting excavation, probably date to 14-15 thousand years ago, the dates of
which potentially extend backwards in time to the concluding millennia of the
Pleistocene. The site was abandoned after the PPNB-period. Younger structures
date to classical times.The function of the structures is not yet clear. Excavator
Klaus Schmidt believed that they are early neolithic sanctuaries.. .

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Human Alien Hybrids and Gobekli Tepe June 2015

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Published on 21 Jun 2015


Linda Moulton Howe delved into a fascinating human/alien hybridization program
and spoke on the 12000 year old gobekli tepe.

Linda also spoke about The mysterious excavation at Gobekli Tepe, in southeast
Turkey, has revealed a temple complex built some 7,000 years before Stonehenge
and the Great Pyramid. Collins suggested that certain large standing stones in the
complex are linked by one specific circular wall that aims at the brightest star
Deneb in the Cygnus Constellation, which sits at the opening of the Dark Rift in the
Milky Way Galaxy. This has provoked him to speculate that the function of the
temple complex has to do with the recycling or transferring of souls. One of the
startling discoveries at the site is a carving of a vulture-like bird with a wing
outstretched toward a circle. Later used in Egypt, the symbol of the vulture and
circle related to stripping flesh from the bones of the dead and the recycling of
souls from Earth to the afterlife and back again.


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related threads......

The Sphinx, Gobekli Tepe, Ancient Catastrophes Dr Robert Schoch

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83193-The-Sphinx-Gobekli-Tepe-Ancient-Catastrophes-Dr-Robert-Schoch

A 20,000 Year-Old Underwater Pyramid Discovered In Mid-Atlantic In Portugal

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82180-A-20-000-Year-Old-Underwater-Pyramid-Discovered-In-Mid-Atlantic-In-Portugal

Zahi Hawass Storms out of Debate

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81730-Zahi-Hawass-Storms-out-of-Debate


Graham Hancock on Magicians of the Gods preview interview and presentation....2015

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81283-Graham-Hancock-on-Magicians-of-the-Gods-preview-interview-and-presentation....2015

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76461-Admiral-Piri-Reis-....The-500-Year-Old-Map-that-Shatters-the-Official-History-of-the-Human-Race

Graham Hancock - Ancient Man and Our Mysterious Origins // Gobekli Tepe Roundtable march 2014

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71613-Graham-Hancock-Ancient-Man-and-Our-Mysterious-Origins-Gobekli-Tepe-Roundtable-march-2014

Gobekli Tepe - The Cradle of the Gods

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61931-Gobekli-Tepe-The-Cradle-of-the-Gods

[Cidersomerset]

The next vid on the U'tube link is from Jim Mars , which
looks interesting...........


The Biggest Secret the Ancient History of Humankind

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Published on 20 May 2015


Offering mind-blowing information that will radically alter the way we think about the
world and our place in it, we go beyond the surface, interweaving science and authentic
archaeological finds to show how human civilization may have originated with nonhumans
who visited earth eons ago . . . and may still be here today.

Through the historical, scientific, and cultural record, showing how numerous ancient texts
and tablets tell of visitors from the stars colonizing the earth. From the flying vimanas of
the Hindu Vedic literature and the flying shields reported by the Romans to the mysterious
airships of the 1800s and the UFOs of today, he argues that someone other than us is still
present on this planet. But are these visitors simply observers—or do they play a much more
active and controlling role?

[ghostrider]

I keep going back to semjase's words , 50,000 years ago an off world human being named Pelegon along with 200 scientist and 70,000 people fled into the cosmos in a spaceship they took by force ... leaving the constellation Lyra/Vega they came to settle on three worlds , Mars , Malona , and Earth , they built huge stone cities on every continent ... they and their descendants were responsible for genetic altering of Earth humans ( the original sin ) , shortening the life spans , while they live 1,000 years we live only 80-100 years , and only have 10 percent brain usage ... it's why the Plejaren came to Earth , they feel responsible for what their ancestors did long ago , posing as gods and the creators of Creation deceiving humanity , and it still lingers on Earth to this day ... the ancient builders built pyramids and temples everywhere they went ...

[Cidersomerset]

I keep going back to semjase's words , 50,000 years ago an off world human being named
Pelegon along with 200 scientist and 70,000 people fled into the cosmos in a spaceship they took
by force ... leaving the constellation Lyra/Vega

I know you are consistent with your view and posts and it is a plausible theory
and I think they have and are still interacting with humanity , not only with Billy...

There are several origin stories about how we were created all considered
alternate, but the one I feel is the dodgiest is Darwinism.

The Annunaki is possible , and I like Bob Dobbs presentation of
how the Booteans created us . There could be more than one
group involved at different periods of what we call time ???

[Cidersomerset]

400,000 years, Oldest Human DNA Leads To More Questions Than Answers ( major
changes last 5 yrs)

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Ancient Humanoid DNA Baffles Scientists

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Published on 11 Dec 2013


World's oldest human DNA, containing evidence of an unknown species, has been
recovered from a 400,000-year-old thigh bone. According to anthropologists,
studying this DNA from human ancestors that are hundreds of thousands of years
old shows a complex pattern of evolution in the origin of Neanderthals and modern
humans. Mark Sovel and Lissette Padilla discuss how this discovery provides
various insight into the evolution of our species, in this clip from the Lip News.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75061-400-000-years-Oldest-Human-DNA-Leads-To-More-Questions-Than-Answers---major-changes-last-5-yrs-&p=877864#post877864


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Hell I don't even need a video.
I'd be happy to tune in just to hear your thoughts on these things.

Thanks for the compliment DNA , I have have got lots of thoughts on this
but nothing fixed at the moment, ET influence on our creation is high on
my list, the other is more spiritual on the lines we are all eternal entities
gods and we are experiencing this reality for contrast. We have always
existed and are pure electicity that create thru frequencies. Both are
more detailed and works in progress...LOL

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I just posted this on another thread and it a version of how
we were created by the 'Evergreens' a group of 6/7000
entities channeled thru Michael Blake Read. Whether
it is true or not it is certainly interesting.......

This is pre Ion, Bob talking about the Booteans the local ET ambassadors for our
region......This is a really good discussion.

400,000 years, Oldest Human DNA Leads To More Questions Than Answers ( major changes last 5 yrs)

The discussion in the alternate community to whether we are 'Star Children' , or
genetic experiments from ET's like the Annunaki or Booteans or some other race.

The mainstream has been forced to change their views by recent discoveries and
advances in DNA extraction and analyst. They are still convinced the answers are in
the bones and that it is all terrestrial. I find it interesting that they won't consider
external influence by ET's , but that's where we are and as we know Universities
don't get funding for 'All Ideas' just conservative accepted views occasionally
updated. Though they may get taken over by events and new discoveries.......







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Boötes is one of the oldest defined constellations, having been mentioned in
Homer’s The Odyssey. This constellation has figured in other contact cases.

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The Bootes is also where the Illuminatti say the Booteans who created us by
changing a existing earth hominoid Cro Magnon come from.............
Which i have posted in several places and deffinately worth a place in the UFO
library in you brain...LOL...

What the Illuminati Know about ET's & Human evolution.....


This video presentation is from the 1999 UFOCON conference.....
A young looking 77yr old Bob presents from illuminati documentation....

A must watch to add to your education imho ...steve...


Booteans
Memes, Ira Einhorn, Walter Breen
8 March 2005

http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/phatic_communion/07_Bowart/Bowart%20Bob/mcL_ufo_etc%20%203-08-05_01a.mp3

Michael Blake Read
(Born May 22, 1938 - January 27, 2013)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Qa18YWMg95Y/UQ1pQpmgyII/AAAAAAAAAEo/7hGNGXgNlDs/s400/Michael+Mug+for+Obit+2013.jpg

http://www.theevergreensproject.com/

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Bob Dobbs at The International UFO Congress, 1999

Two vids on link.....

http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/bob-dobbs-at-international-ufo-congress.html


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XCon 2005 - Charles Hall - The Tall Whites - ET Experiences in the Nevada Desert

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50137-XCon-2005-Charles-Hall-The-Tall-Whites-ET-Experiences-in-the-Nevada-Desert&p=558469#post558469

[Cidersomerset]

Michael Tellinger Deepest Anunnaki Mysteries in Human History [FULL VIDEO] April 2015

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Published on 23 Apr 2015


Michael Tellinger says Southern Africa holds some of the deepest Anunnaki mysteries in all
of human history. What we are told is that at around 60,000 years ago the early humans
migrated from Africa and populated the rest of the world.

It estimated that there are well over 1,000,000 (one million) ancient stone ruins scattered
throughout the mountains of southern Africa. Various tools and Anunnaki artefacts that have
been recovered from these ruins show a long and extended period of settlement that spans
well over 200,000 years.

Scientist and researcher Michael Tellinger discusses the Anunnaki Ruins, evidence in support
of Zecharia Sitchin's revolutionary work showing that these Extraterrestrial beings created us
using pieces of their own DNA, in order to mine gold on Earth for them. The more work he
does on these beings called the Anunnaki, the more mysterious and also the more devious
they become...they are not necessarily what we think they are. It's turning out that where
they came from-- Nibiru, could actually represent a star system rather than a planet, with its
sun being a brown dwarf. Further, the gold they were extracting from Earth could have been
used for a device that concealed their activities from other consciousnesses even more
advanced than themselves.


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Michael Tellinger - Adams Calendar & Ancient Ruins

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[Meggings]

In post #5 above, the picture of Michael took my breath away in surprise. An old friend of mine...

Cidersomerset, you wrote "a version of how we were created by the 'Evergreens' a group of 6/7000 entities channeled thru Michael Blake Read. Whether it is true or not it is certainly interesting.......
This is pre Ion, Bob talking about the Booteans the local ET ambassadors for our
region......This is a really good discussion."

Are you connected with this fellow Bob and this chaotic energy called Ion today? You write as though you esteem him highly.

Long ago the Evergreens told me ... I'm grasping for memory to resurface, that we came from Bootes and they are our children...

[Becky]

What I find fascinating, and I don't know if it's just a coincidence, but at the 5.28 mark on this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTLHoFYAt8

The weird structures picked up from satelite look so similar to the drawings of a developing embryo from the 2-3 cell, to 4 to 5 and so on. I know cells typically grow from 1-2-4-8-16 and so on, but the bigger ones have an outer rim or casing which looks like the trophoblast stage of a developing embryo.
I'm just wondering on the significance of the shapes and number of 'cells' in each structure.

[Cidersomerset]

Are you connected with this fellow Bob and this chaotic energy called Ion today? You write as though you esteem him highly.

Long ago the Evergreens told me ... I'm grasping for memory to resurface, that we
came from Bootes and they are our children...

I have heard well over a thousand hours of Bob, Dr.Carolyn Dean , Ion and the gang. Its a 'crazy' ride
and I use the info gained , in parallel to what we learn here and elsewhere. Its difficult to explain , as
its an 'environment ' and you have to tune into their wave length , which I have over the past 5/6 years.

Its a place that either resonates with you or not. Many who have come across it say 'WTF' is this ?
and it can be chaotic , confusing , frustrating at times. But can also be funny, intense, informative
and reassuring. Both Bob and Carolyn in there 90's , are fascinating people in themselves and
Ion is an interesting phenomenon. Like a lot of the subjects we follow , the reality we live in
who ? what ? where ? when ? the meaning of life etc are among many topic discussed , and
as Bob frequently says " Haz we gotten Any wher'z " , which is usually two steps forward
one step back. Though as Ion says 'we are wonderfull human creators' so this reality is subject
to change as we go along 'creating' .......


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edit update.......

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I am listening to 3 rd hour which is the 7pm segment and aprox 48 mins in Bob
mentions to Ion at the end of a sentence. ( They have been talking about a lot
of Bible stuff and other topics in the first hour and half after the music)...

Bob.."When the original continent fell apart was that in the Nepal area " ?

Ion " Yes ".

Bob.. Is that true we did not come from Africa and when we descended from the
original continent , we came from Nepal ? , we fell into Nepal ? "

Ion.. "Kathmandu " which is the capitol , not exact word for word but you get the
jist. The show is now so long, last sat pm/sun am was for 15hrs , sometimes its
longer or a bit shorter depends whats going on.Its split into various parts, Bob
plays music for an hour or two , then Ion may con on for hour , then Bob may
cover various subjects . Then Ion may come back , it depends who's around who
Bob interacts with. He may do a reading , analyse a novel , play a reading , its a
unique show and a lot of the good info is mixed in with the general chatter and
flow of the show.

[Cidersomerset]

I'm just wondering on the significance of the shapes and number of 'cells' in each structure.

Hi Becky.....I don't know about any significance , it may ? But I do see what
you mean , its like a single cell amoeba splitting then doubling as there are
thousands of these enclosures all over Southern Africa.


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[Becky]

I'm just wondering on the significance of the shapes and number of 'cells' in each structure.

Hi Becky.....I don't know about any significance , it may ? But I do see what
you mean , its like a single cell amoeba splitting then doubling as there are
thousands of these enclosures all over Southern Africa.


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Hi Cider, I'm glad you know what I mean - there is some organised pattern to these structures - they show a sequence or are part of a whole. i wonder if they had anything to do with emitting frequencies? Are they too small to be dwellings?

[Gardener]

This one about the SA circles explains them quite well, I hadn't realised there were literally millions of them
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I have been wondering lately the significance on these statues, of the curly bobbley representation of their hair and beards? Curious.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Cider, I'm glad you know what I mean - there is some organised pattern to these structures - they show a sequence or are part of a whole. i wonder if they had anything to do with emitting frequencies? Are they too small to be dwellings?

In the Michael Tellinger vid in # 6 , which I was half listening to yesterday
while posting. ( who said men can't multitask ) ..LOL He was talking about
his new book and was hypothesising that apart from mining the Annunaki may
of been collecting gold particles from water sources using sheeps skins , as well as
a food source , a bit like in the Myth of the golden fleece in Jason and the
Argonauts . If you plunged a fluffy sheep's skin into gold-bearing river for 2 days.
Sheepskin, which settled particles of gold, turned into the Golden Fleece.

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http://natalia-levis-fox.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/human-warmth-and-fluffy-clothes-from_29.html

There is a old vid where Michael is by Adams calendar and he is playing
on some acoustic rocks if my memory serves

He does expand on whats in his new book that in the interview, but I cannot
remember off hand. I was posting , ( I did not say men were any good at
multitasking)..LOL

found it still multitasking...LOL

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Michael Tellinger demonstrates the acoustic properties of stone artefacts from the
ruins in South Africa.


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A slight sidebar I'm listening to the 10 pm segment aprox 19 mins Bert comes
in and asks some quick fire questions about Salt and light .Light has frequency and Salt has vibration.....

When you mentioned if the compounds had anything to do with frequency ?
I don't know , but creation has everything to do with the 'frequency of sound
and the spoken word ' according to Ion.

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
' Us , wonder full human creators'

[Cidersomerset]

This one about the SA circles explains them quite well, I hadn't realised there were literally millions of them

That's what I thought , a bloody lot of sheep ! But they could
of been multi functional, over a very long period ?

[Meggings]

Cidersomerset, I ask if you would elaborate on what you wrote earlier, what you recall Bob said that the Evergreens said:
"a version of how we were created by the 'Evergreens' a group of 6/7000 entities channeled thru Michael Blake Read. Whether it is true or not it is certainly interesting.......
This is pre Ion, Bob talking about the Booteans the local ET ambassadors for our
region......This is a really good discussion."

And though it may have been consciously inadvertent on your part, I rather agree with this you wrote above:
"then Ion may con on for hour ..."

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Meggings just to clarify this is the link to Bobs 1999 UFO congress
presentation. This was 10 years before Ion came along in 2009/10.

Bob says he is quoting from illuminate sources by that he means
channelling , talking to non-physical. Which some elites have done
for ever and still do. He also is quoting from the 'Evergreens' as
when he worked in intelligence he had many sessions with Michael,
Blake Reed who Bob said was the best available at the time, and
he did visit others.

Bob Dobbs at The International UFO Congress, 1999

Two vids on link.....

http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/bob-dobbs-at-international-ufo-congress.html

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This is from a radio interview Bob was on.......


Booteans
Memes, Ira Einhorn, Walter Breen
8 March 2005

http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/phatic_communion/07_Bowart/Bowart%20Bob/mcL_ufo_etc%20%203-08-05_01a.mp3

Michael Blake Read
(Born May 22, 1938 - January 27, 2013)

[Cidersomerset]

RH Negatives are the key to the Anunnaki Origins

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Original vid timed out
The power of ANUNNAKI Blood....RH negative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGBDHQJZTM
Published on 20 Apr 2015

Official Report: UFOLOGY VIDEO – OFFICIAL VERIFIED VIDEO
Watch too this Important video:
"PLANET X NIBIRU is here! Government COVER UP!" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_moN...

[Cidersomerset]

Dundee scientists probe 9,000-year-old decapitation


4 hours ago... From the section Tayside and Central Scotland


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Scientists at Dundee University were called in to investigate a decapitation which happened 9,000 years ago.

Archaeologists turned to the Centre for Anatomy and Human
Identification in Dundee after excavating the skull in eastern Brazil.
The decapitation is the oldest documented in South America by
6,000 years, and raised several questions.Scientists in Dundee
worked out how the decapitation was done with the limited tools
available at the time.Andre Strauss from the Max Planck Institute
for Evolutionary Anthropology was excavating the Lapa do Santo
site in eastern Brazil when he unearthed a head buried under a rock.

The full skeleton was nowhere to be found, save the disembodied skull
and the hands, which were placed over the face in a deliberate pose.
The remains were dated to 9,000 years ago, around 6,000 years before
the next oldest known decapitation on the continent, in Peru.

Archaeologists were puzzled to how hunter-gatherers living in a simple
society with few tools managed to carry out the gruesome act.

Symbolic ritual

Mr Strauss turned to Professor Sue Black at Dundee University for help.
The team at CAHID were able to compare the case to a modern-day
decapitation, and worked out that the skull had essentially been pulled
off, with only partial cutting involved.Prof Black said: "Examining the skull,
we saw fractures consistent with hyper extension of the head and rotation.
"There would also have been cutting but the fracturing of the neck bones
indicated a violence to the region."Archaeologists cannot explain why the
Lapa de Santo man was decapitated, having ruled out the possibility of
his head being a trophy of some kind.

Examination of his bones suggest he was a local rather than an outsider
or rival, leading to speculation that his death was part of some form of
symbolic ritual.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-34348233

[Cidersomerset]

Michael Tellinger Anunnaki Links to South Africa July 2015

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Published on 9 Jul 2015


Scientist and researcher Michael Tellinger discussed the Anunnaki, an
ancient ET race he believes created humanity through genetic tinkering
to serve as slaves for their gold mining operations. As evidence for the
Annunaki's presence, he cited the massive number of ancient stone
circles found in South Africa, and Zimbabwe, which date back at least
300,000 years. The circles vary in size from 15 feet across to 450 ft.
and Tellinger believes they originally functioned as energy generating
devices, though in more recent times some of them have been
converted into dwellings.

Just recently someone was drilling in a South African mine, when a wall
collapsed and revealed an older mining tunnel that was made with such
precision that it could not have been constructed with current technology,
he reported.

[Cidersomerset]

Ep. 362 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Linda Moulton Howe: Gobekli Tepe
Thanksgiving Special

interview starts aprox 33mins in , some new observations, discussion and
speculation on the possible function and who built this ancient monument.
They also discuss the great pyramid later on.


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It's Thanksgiving and once again we have Linda Moulton Howe spending her holiday
with us...and we discuss thoroughly the subject of Gobekli Tepe. Every aspect of
the site is covered...one of best shows we've done on Gobekli Tepe.

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Gobekli Tepe Pillars Etched On Bone Found At 12,000-Year-Old Site

© 2015 by Linda Moulton Howe

“Even though the etched bone plaque bears no holes — which indicates
it was not used as a pendant — it could still have functioned as an amulet
or talisman ... imbuing the bone plaque with a mystical quality in order
to connect it with the Gobekli site.”

- Andrew Collins, Gobekli researcher and author, 2015

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/G/GobekliBoneEtched2TPillarsNov2015.jpg

Bone etching of what appears to be Gobekli Tepe T-shaped pillars with a humanoid
holding its hands around one of the tall pillars staring outward with large, black eyes,
a long triangular face and small mouth. The existence of this "etched bone plaque"
currently on display at the Sanliurfa Museum in southern Turkey near Gobekli Tepe
was introduced by researcher and author Andrew Collins in September 17, 2015,
Ancient Origins, and on November 7, 2015, at Queen Mary University in London.
The etched bone was first noticed in the museum by Matthew Smith, a British
telecommunications consultant from the Middle East's Qatar, who was visiting the
Gobekli Tepe archaeological site.

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December 3, 2015 Gobekli Tepe, Turkey - In the September 17, 2015, Ancient
Origins and on November 7, 2015, at Queen Mary University in London, ancient
sites researcher Andrew Collins and author of Gobekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods,
The Temple of the Watchers and the Discovery of Eden © 2014

Reported that a small piece of bone appears to have two T-shaped Gobekli Tepe
pillars etched into it. There is even a 3-dimensional perspective of a humanoid
holding on to one of the tall etched pillars. The bone is only 1-inch wide, 2.3 inches
long and 3 to 4 millimeters thick and was recently found at the Sanliurfa Museum
by a British tele-communications consultant named Matthew Smith while visiting
from Qatar.

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/G/GobekliTepePillarsFromAboveNov2015.jpg

12,000-year-old circles of limestone pillars each weighing from 10 to 20 metric
tons thathave been excavated between 1994 and today in Gobekli Tepe, Turkey,
about 9 miles(15 km) northeast of Sanliurfa, formerly known as Urfa or Edessa.
More than twice the age of Mesopotamia, the excavations have revealed some 40
standing T-shaped pillars in fourcircles between 30 feet and 98 feet (10 to 30
meters) in diameter. Ground-penetrating radarindicates there are still 250 or more
pillars buried in 16 circles extending over another 22 acres
for a total of 30 acres terraformed by an intelligence referred to as a "Neolithic site."

Investigator Andrew Collins reported at his andrewcollins.com website (see
Websites below) in November 2015: “What exactly does the tiny bone plaque
represent? I think it is two T-pillars displayed side by side. They signify twin pillars
like those placed at the centre of all the major enclosures at Gobekli Tepe ... some
were originally up to 5 meters in height and weighed as much as 15 to 20 tons a piece.

“Another important question is how the bone plaque came to be made and what its
purpose might have been? Even though the etched bone plaque bears no holes
indicating it was not used as a pendant, it could still have functioned as an amulet
or talisman ... imbuing the bone plaque with a mystical quality in order to connect
it with the Gobekli site.”

https://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2378&category=Science

[Cidersomerset]

Other Gobekli Artifacts in the Sanliurfa Museum —
Is Black-Eyed Urfa Man Like Humanoid in Bone Etching?

On June 13, 2012, I was in Gobekli Tepe and Sanliurfa, Turkey, where I
learned that thieves had been stealing artifacts from the hilltop excavation.
So archaeologist Klaus Schmidt organized transfers of valuable 12,000-
year-old artifacts to the local Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa. There I saw eerie,
haunting, puzzling Gobekli sculptures, especially a totem about six feet tall
to the left of a short alien-looking being. The tall non-human encompasses
totem scenes going downward inside its totem body into the birth of a
human-looking baby.

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Stone totem excavated at Gobekli Tepe of non-human creature evolving into
birth of human-like infant at Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa, Turkey.

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/T/TurkeyGobekliTotemBirthCloser3.jpg

Stone totem excavated at Gobekli Tepe of non-human creature evolving into
birth of human-like infant at Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa, Turkey.
Image © 2012 by Linda Moulton Howe.
What appears to be snakes and heads on either side of the tall humanoid figure
above turn into the knees of the totem body giving birth to the human-looking
baby below.


Turkey's June issue of Actual Archaeology reports, “One of the biggest surprises at
Gobekli Tepe was a large sculpture reminiscent of the totem poles of North American
Natives, which was discovered in 2009 and excavated in 2010. The sculpture had been
set into the northeastern wall of a rectangular room and was not visible originally due
to the wall completely covering it. The remarkable length is 1.92 meters (6 feet 4 inches).
The uppermost motif depicts a predator.”

https://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2378&category=Science

[Cidersomerset]

New Artefact Discovered at Gobekli Tepe 2015

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Published on 7 Nov 2015

A bone plaque in Sanliurfa museum holds the key to the building of 11,500 year-old
temple complex in Gobekli Tepe, says Andrew Collins.

It was found during routine excavations at the 11,500-year-old site of Göbekli Tepe
in southeast Turkey, but no one had recognised exactly what the carved lines on
the small bone plaque showed.

[Cidersomerset]

Gobekli's .....Urfa Man

The June 2012 issue of Actual Archaeology describes the Gobekli statue known
as “Urfa man” this way: “Male statues like the life-size Urfa statue, can be dated to
the Early Neolithic as well. The Urfa statue has a face. Its eyes are depicted by
black crystals of obsidian. Below the eyes are the nose, broken off, and a sunken
chin without a mouth. Also, the statue seems to be naked with the exception of a
V-shaped necklace. [ Others argue the V-neck is a leotard-type body suit.] It is not
entirely clear, but it seems that the hands are holding the Urfa man's phallus. Legs
are not depicted. Below the body there is only a conical tab, which allows the statue
to be set into the ground easily.”

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/T/TurkeyUrfaManMuseum.jpg
Urfa Man images at Urfa Museum, Sanliurfa, Turkey,
above and below © 2012 by Linda Moulton Howe.

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/T/TurkeyUrfaManPhallus.jpg

https://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2378&category=Science

[Cidersomerset]

Graham Hancock on BBC News - September 9 - 2015 - Magicians of the gods discussion

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Published on 9 Sep 2015
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New Graham Hancock TV Interview October 2015

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Published on 13 Oct 2015

Graham Hanock is the author of the forthcoming Magicians of the Gods, published
on 10 November 2015, and of the major international bestsellers The Sign and the
Seal, Fingerprints of the Gods, Heaven's Mirror, Underworld, and Supernatural.

Graham Hancock’s multi-million bestseller Fingerprints of the Gods remains an
astonishing, deeply controversial, wide-ranging investigation of the mysteries of
our past and the evidence for Earth’s lost civilization. Twenty years on, Hancock
returns with Magicians of the Gods, the sequel to his seminal work. Published on
10 September 2015 in the UK and on 10 November 2015 in the US, Magicians of
the Gods is not in any sense an ‘update’ of Fingerprints but is a completely new
book filled from front to back with completely new evidence, completely new
travels to the world’s most mysterious archaeological sites, and completely new
insights, based on the latest scientific evidence, into the global cataclysm that
wiped an advanced civilization from the earth and made us a species with amnesia,
forced to begin again like children with no memory of what went before.


Category
Entertainment

[Cidersomerset]

Another Megalith That rewrites History is Found

Graham Hancock
Published 7th August 2015

http://grahamhancock.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015-8-7-blog.jpg

https://grahamhancock.com/another-megalith-that-rewrites-history-is-found/

[Sunny-side-up]

Other Gobekli Artifacts in the Sanliurfa Museum —
Is Black-Eyed Urfa Man Like Humanoid in Bone Etching?

On June 13, 2012, I was in Gobekli Tepe and Sanliurfa, Turkey, where I
learned that thieves had been stealing artifacts from the hilltop excavation.
So archaeologist Klaus Schmidt organized transfers of valuable 12,000-
year-old artifacts to the local Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa. There I saw eerie,
haunting, puzzling Gobekli sculptures, especially a totem about six feet tall
to the left of a short alien-looking being. The tall non-human encompasses
totem scenes going downward inside its totem body into the birth of a
human-looking baby.

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/T/TurkeyGobekliTotemBirth1.jpg

Stone totem excavated at Gobekli Tepe of non-human creature evolving into
birth of human-like infant at Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa, Turkey.

https://www.earthfiles.com/images/news/T/TurkeyGobekliTotemBirthCloser3.jpg

Stone totem excavated at Gobekli Tepe of non-human creature evolving into
birth of human-like infant at Urfa Museum in Sanliurfa, Turkey.
Image © 2012 by Linda Moulton Howe.
What appears to be snakes and heads on either side of the tall humanoid figure
above turn into the knees of the totem body giving birth to the human-looking
baby below.


Turkey's June issue of Actual Archaeology reports, “One of the biggest surprises at
Gobekli Tepe was a large sculpture reminiscent of the totem poles of North American
Natives, which was discovered in 2009 and excavated in 2010. The sculpture had been
set into the northeastern wall of a rectangular room and was not visible originally due
to the wall completely covering it. The remarkable length is 1.92 meters (6 feet 4 inches).
The uppermost motif depicts a predator.”

https://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2378&category=Science

I would say they are not Snakes but Sperm!
The totem type carvings look like a representation of Ancestry/GENETIC-evolution of Humanoid type beings!

And the Wild-Boar! Well pigs are very close to humans genetically/internal organ wise!
Where the Wild-Boars found with the totems?

Such an amazing and very important site, especially with regards to the age!

[Cidersomerset]

I would say they are not Snakes but Sperm!
The totem type carvings look like a representation of Ancestry/GENETIC-evolution of Humanoid type beings!

Yes that sounds/looks possible , the carving does look snake like , but a sperm
which would mean they would of had to have access to a micro scope. Which
suggest a whole higher scientific as well as spiritual knowledge.

The statue looks like it could be representing the spark of life , impregnation ,
fertilisation , gestation and birth ?...The statue could also be a ET or hybrid as they
suggested it could have six digits on each hand , as it looks like the thumbs are hidden.

The mainstream will probably go for it being some sort of 'deity' or fertility
symbol ? but it looks more exotic than that and bottom figure with the baby
does have 'Gray' like eyes to me. I think Linda suggested it might represent
giants and human females as in the old testament account of the Nephilim.
Which could mean it is an annunaki ?


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fe/dc/d8/fedcd8e0334778f8b7ed9962efc58c75.jpg

http://www.zappersoftware.com/images/sumerian_tablet.jpg


Human sperm...


http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/human-sperm-13566949.jpg

Or a snake ....

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/sD4AAOSwQPlV-y8e/$_1.JPG?set_id=880000500F

[Cidersomerset]

GOBEKLI TEPE - DOCUMENTARY SHORT FILM

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Published on 22 Nov 2015

I traveled to GobekliTepe a few months ago. This was an amazing trip and
an investigation into the 12,000+ year old site and the new museum that
houses a lot of the artifacts from the site.

[Cidersomerset]

Gobekli Tepe is situated in the region speculated as possibly being the garden
of Eden. What if it was a scientific research and development zone for the
creating , breeding and release into a monitored area. An ET jurassic park
for humans and hybrids. This is not new there has been speculation about this
forever , but more and more dots are being connected.

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ancienaliensdna.jpg


http://dayspringdiscipleship.org/images/320_GobekliTepeLocation2FC.jpg

http://www.naklikproductions.com/was_th10.jpg

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and of course all these ideas have been played out in books, tv and the movies...

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The Moving Monologue from Star Trek TNG - "The Chase" Season 6 Ep. 20

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Prometheus alternate opening

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This scene shows other engineers and a ship. One of them looks to be the elder and
it seems to be some sort of ritual/sacrifice as they engineer kills himself and his
DNA makes mankind

[Cidersomerset]

There are statues from other sites that relate similar subject matter.
This would probably be seen as depicting a fertility goddess . But
who is the father ? ... Wheres Jerry Springer when you need him...LOL


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f5/78/71/f5787161aeb4c7daee98bd13e7d49bf7.jpg

The Gobekli Tepe statue has a fox on each side. That resembles this statue from
Çatalhöyük in Antolia So this +/- 10 000 BC stylized statue at Göbekli Tepe ...

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Is this body of this relief depicting DNA among other info in its message ?

http://enkispeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Gobekli-Tepe4-Enki.jpg



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Serpent ? or Sperm head ?

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/58630/images/15.JPG

[Cidersomerset]

Gobekli Tepe - Watchers of Eden - Andrew Collins from 2013..?

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"Andrew Collins has been investigating the idea of an advanced civilization
existing before recorded history since 1979, focusing on southeast Turkey
since the early 1990s. He is the co-discoverer of a massive cave complex
beneath the Giza plateau, now known as “Collins’ Caves.” The author of
From the Ashes of Angels, Gods of Eden, The Cygnus Mystery, and Gateway
to Atlantis, he lives in Essex, England."

[AMystic3434]

I saw a special on this and it had me thinking that this might have something to do with atlantis. It dates back 12000 years which is around the time that atlantis is said to have existed. When they unearth part of it they didn't find any tools there and the stones are expertly carved. What they have unearth is huge and its said that it is only 5% of what is really there which leads them to believe that it was an entire civilization that was there. Also it was buried intentionally under the dirt. Why would they decide to bury it. Science didn't even think civilization went back 12000 years doesn't this rewrite history and ask for more questions about what really happened on earth. Anyway its very interesting.

[Mike Gorman]

It is, you are absolutely right, the heavy hitters among the alternative archaeology people refer to it often - it is in Turkey is it not?

[ghostrider]

Atlantis according to the plejaren , was located just off the coast of Florida. .. Due to the cosmic wars in the ancient past , Atlantis kept to themselves, and didn't mingle with other cities on other continents. .. only two civilizations at the time , thrived on earth, Atlantis and Lemuria, who were both attacked by the Syrian creator overlords, led by Jehovahs grandfather King Arus the barbarian ...

[Cognitive Dissident]

I saw a special on this and it had me thinking that this might have something to do with atlantis. It dates back 12000 years which is around the time that atlantis is said to have existed. When they unearth part of it they didn't find any tools there and the stones are expertly carved. What they have unearth is huge and its said that it is only 5% of what is really there which leads them to believe that it was an entire civilization that was there. Also it was buried intentionally under the dirt. Why would they decide to bury it. Science didn't even think civilization went back 12000 years doesn't this rewrite history and ask for more questions about what really happened on earth. Anyway its very interesting.

It is indeed very interesting. I recommend Graham Hancock's new book Magicians of the Gods which is all about Gobekli Tepe and the lost civilisation AKA Atlantis. No time to summarise here but it's a really indepth investigation of the whole area.

[ljwheat]

In there day was no different than our own day to day living.. history and the label of ancient has stifled the way people think, we don't think,, what will people think of us 2 or 3 thousand years in the future. We seem to only look at the past, as i'm sure they must have back then. Humanity has been around the block many times, will we get threw the next ice age? Who's to say, we look at the evidence at hand. so i would say yes they knew fully well what was around them and on this planet just as today. to the point more advanced than our existence now..:lalala: we were and are more than what they want us to believe.

[TrumanCash]

I can say from my own past life memories that indeed Atlantis existed 12,409 years ago because that was the beginning of my imprisonment in the Mantid-operated artificial reincarnation system for planet Earth.

My first lifetime on Atlantis was quite short but my second lifetime as a woman was full and very enjoyable with lovely weather and a comfortable home overlooking the rocky cliffs of Atlantis. (I had no prior knowledge of this subject but had very clear memories of looking out over the very high cliffs overlooking the ocean--see NASA map (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/nasa-map-shows-what-antarctica-would-look-like-without-ice-1.1304997).)

Atlantis is now covered with ice and quite inhospitable except for the secret under ice/underground bases and digs there. It is now called Antarctica.

If you will notice from looking at a globe, Atlantis/Antarctica is a very big island in the middle of the ocean (http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/an.htm). Rand & Rose Phlen-Ath (http://www.flem-ath.com/) are two researchers who used ancient maps to find Atlantis and that is their conclusion.

However, I know this is true because I lived there. It used to be a nice place (weather-wise), but I have to say I did not enjoy the human sacrifice experience.

This is not to say that there weren't other places called "Atlantis", but I doubt that. There are legends of other islands under other names such as Lemuria/Mu, whose symbols are obviously that of the winged serpent/serpent staff ETs [see Churchward (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_churchward01.htm)].

[Foxie Loxie]

I've often wondered if Gobekli Tepe was really "buried" or was it simply covered up during the Great Flood?

[Andre]

Atlantis is now covered with ice and quite inhospitable except for the secret under ice/underground bases and digs there. It is now called Antarctica. If you will notice from looking at a globe, Atlantis/Antarctica is a very big island in the middle of the ocean (http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/an.htm). However, I know this is true because I lived there. It used to be a nice place (weather-wise), but I have to say I did not enjoy the human sacrifice experience.

The evidence for Atlantis being under the Atlantic Ocean east of Florida and west of Spain is overwhelming and is documented in many pre-historical studies. No-one would argue that Atlantis was not a great empire and like any great empire, it is highly likely that they had colonies located in far corners of the globe, possibly even in Antarctica. After all, they would have needed natural resources too.

Further research may or may not reveal that Gobekli Tepe is linked to Atlantis. The timeline alone is insufficient to speculate that it was connected although clearly Gobekli Tepe was constructed by an advanced civilization. Were they Atlantians? Perhaps.

[CurEus]

I've often wondered if Gobekli Tepe was really "buried" or was it simply covered up during the Great Flood?


That certainly makes much more sense than people shoveling dirt on it for years on end...I also tend to believe archaeologists don't ever really dig deep enough. I'm sure more than 1/2 of Egypt and other sites are still mostly buried.

[Mike Gorman]

http://grahamhancock.com - Graham Hancock has some really useful and insightful work on this place- 'Great Flood', you mean the one where Noah built the Ark? I am not convinced that took place globally-maybe locally.

[robur]

I already wrote else where about information I once received. I intend on using this information outside of my own post.
@Amystic3434 Göbekli Tepe has nothing to with Atlantis. It was once part of World Grid
@ghostrider Off coast of Florida is area so called Bermuda Triangle. In the centre of it is an island that is shifted out of phase
@cureus it is not a problem that Egypt is still buried – it is a problem that when something is fiund that doesn't correspond with accepted idea of ancient Egypt it is quickly hidden.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I've often wondered if Gobekli Tepe was really "buried" or was it simply covered up during the Great Flood?


That certainly makes much more sense than people shoveling dirt on it for years on end...I also tend to believe archaeologists don't ever really dig deep enough. I'm sure more than 1/2 of Egypt and other sites are still mostly buried.

The consensus (including Graham Hancock) is that it was buried. Why is an interesting question.

Perhaps because the builders knew the flood was coming and wanted to protect it?

[Maunagarjana]

My impression is that it had something to do with survivors of the destruction of Atlantis who had been forced to return to a pretty primitive way of life, and were living among primitive peoples that had no relation to Atlantis. One of the things I think a lot of people miss about Atlantis is that there was the destruction of Atlantis, and then survivor colonies emerged, and those were later destroyed also, and then the survivors of those went native.

[Andre]

Good point Maunagarjana regarding the migration of survivors from Atlantis and that is a definite possibility based on the estimated age of Gobekli Tepe. It is not difficult to surmise that groups of Atlantians would have escaped before the deluge. These survivors would likely have been the seers, priests and so forth along with their followers who had the insight to intuit what was about to happen. If you take it that Atlantis is where sensible researchers locate it; in the middle of the Atlantic, then we can surmise that the survivors would have travelled east and west because even 12,000 years ago, there would have been little point in escaping north or south. Those going west would have ended up in North America or Central America and you will find this fits well with much of the established pre-historical research, particularly at it relates to Central America. Those who went east would have landed in North Africa or the Basque region. There would have been a myriad of reasons why some may have continued further east to what is now Turkey and places like Gobleki Tepe. As you suggest, perhaps there was work to do to restore the existing world grid at the time due to what their fellow Atlanteans had done to disrupt the planet back then. Their migration would have also been influenced by existing cultures in and around the Mediterranean, especially if they felt they had to avoid certain countries that opposed Atlantis at the time.

Here's a very quick illustration (map) of how Gobleki Tepe was in the direct migration route of Atlantian survivors. Others will have to speculate why some of these survivors would have travelled so far east at the time.

http://skywatcher.equantum.net/images/world-map-atlantis-survivors.gif

[mahalall]

just spoken with Tarik the son of the farmer who discovered the site-he has highlight that the authorities are planning to close the site for a planned year and looking at expanding the museum in Sanliufa. It was planned to be on the May the 2nd but has been delayed the closure.
Before cynically thinking we have to compliment the Turkish authorities for being such good custodians of such a special site. Many sites of value could learn a lot from the management team at Gobleki tepe.
Really fortunate to be in the region and exploring-the presence at the site is sacred- perplexing and if you quiten the mind you might catch site of the white wizard spirit:highfive:

[Cidersomerset]

Really fortunate to be in the region and exploring-the presence at the site is sacred-perplexing and if you quiten the mind you might catch site of the white wizard spirit



Thanks Malhalla....

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refreshed vids in post 1 & 2 and a update vid by Graham Hancock...

Ancient Extinction Revealed: Atlantis, Göbekli Tepe & Mysteries of the Gods with Graham Hancock

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Published on 23 Nov 2015


An ancient extinction event that wiped out Atlantis more advanced societies 12,000 years ago
is illuminated with author Graham Hancock. From the megalithic structures at Göbekli Tepe
and Gunung Padang, to the buried ancient power centers that are hiding a history that
archaeologists are unwilling to acknowledge--the MAGICIANS OF THE GODS author fills in a
blank space in human understanding. The Younger Dryas climate change catastrophe that was
caused by meteoric impacts, and the lost golden age of man is explored on this uncensored
Antidote hosted by Michael Parker.

GUEST BIO:
Graham Hancock is the widely read author of “Magicians of the Gods,” “Fingerprints of the Gods,”
“The Message of the Sphinx,” “Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilization,” and the “War God”
series. Previous to authoring books, Hancock was an East Africa correspondent of the Economist.

ADD’L LINKS:
www.grahamhancock.com
http://www.amazon.com/Graham-Hancock/...
https://www.facebook.com/Author.Graha...
https://twitter.com/Graham__Hancock

[Cidersomerset]

Interesting article pushing wine making officially further back on the mainstream timeline....


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png


'World's oldest wine' found in 8,000-year-old jars in Georgia

2 hours ago
From the section Europe



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/495F/production/_98738781_042981469.jpg
Some of the Neolithic jars bore decorations of grapes

Scientists say 8,000-year-old pottery fragments have revealed
the earliest evidence of grape wine-making.The earthenware jars
containing residual wine compounds were found in two sites south
of the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, researchers said.

Some of the jars bore images of grape clusters and a man dancing.
Previously, the earliest evidence of wine-making was from pottery
dating from about 7,000 years ago found in north-western Iran.
The latest finds were published in the journal Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).


read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41977709

[Foxie Loxie]

Interesting to go back & learn about the Booteans! Thanks, Cider! :highfive:

[Cidersomerset]

Interesting to go back & learn about the Booteans! Thanks, Cider!

Yeah they are one of the races that are supposed to have enhanced our bodies...


I have not seen much about Gobekli Tepe lately though science seems to be
pushing back dates of human evolution more and more...



When will science speculate humanity is probably millions if not more years old ?


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Modern humans left Africa much earlier

By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent, BBC News
14 minutes ago

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/8093/production/_99751923_b6843f20-7a65-4081-9763-f584408bfc66.jpg
The teeth are in the upper size range of what's seen in modern humans

Researchers have identified the remains of the earliest known modern
humans to have left Africa. New dating of fossils from Israel indicates
that our species (Homo sapiens) lived outside Africa around 185,000
years ago, some 80,000 years earlier than the previous evidence.

Details appear in the journal Science.

The co-lead researcher, Prof Israel Hershkovitz, told BBC News that
the discovery would fundamentally alter ideas of recent human evolution.
"We have to rewrite the whole story of human evolution, not just for
our own species but all the other species that lived outside of Africa
at the time," the researcher, from Tel Aviv University, explained.

Prof Chris Stringer of London's Natural History Museum, who was not
involved in the study, said: "The find breaks the long-established
130,000-year-old limit on modern humans outside of Africa.


read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42817323

[Cidersomerset]

This article seems to link Stonehenge to Turkey , from there it is not much of
a stretch to Gobekli Tepi ...



People in Britain lived by hunting and gathering until agriculture was
introduced from continental Europe about 6,000 years ago. These Neolithic
farmers, who traced their origins to Anatolia (modern Turkey) built giant stone
(or "megalithic") structures such as Stonehenge in Wiltshire, huge Earth mounds
and sophisticated settlements such as Skara Brae in the Orkneys.



http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Ancient Britons 'replaced' by newcomers

By Paul Rincon
Science editor, BBC News website
2 hours ago...21/2/18

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/48EE/production/_100107681_top_pots-nc.png
Beaker pottery starts to appear in Britain around 4,500 years ago

The ancient population of Britain was almost completely replaced by
newcomers about 4,500 years ago, a study shows.The findings mean
modern Britons trace just a small fraction of their ancestry to the people
who built Stonehenge.

The astonishing result comes from analysis of DNA extracted from 400
ancient remains across Europe.The mammoth study, published in Nature,
suggests the newcomers, known as Beaker people, replaced 90% of the
British gene pool in a few hundred years.

read more....

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/BC51/production/_100090284_gettyimages-599815110.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43115485

[Cardillac]

Hi all,

sorry to "invade" the start of threads for now (not normally my style) but I just feel the following interv. w/ LMH is just as valuable as the latest Dr. Farrell interv. on which I recently started a thread- two mind-boggling interviews-

once LMH get's into the info about one of the most puzzling, mystical archeological sites on the planet, Göbekli Tepe in S. Turkey, did she rivet my attention; all I can say to this is: "holy s**t!"!

I was gob-smacked by this interview-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT9LlcwupxI

Larry

[Bill Ryan]

A bit of a menu may be helpful here.

Linda starts off by talking about Walt Disney, and his role connected with Project Mockingbird (the infiltration and control of the American media).

She then talks about animal mutilations, and at 20:55, for a few minutes, she references human mutilations, which has been pointed out by others she doesn't often mention.

Her section on Göbekli Tepe starts at 26:30, ten minutes before a break, and continues after that. Much of this she and others have spoken about before, but one particularly interesting section (from 40:00) is when she describes how weird and kind of 'non-human' and almost 'alien' and 'unknowable' it felt there.

For more on this fascinating site, just search for (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?search_type=1) 'Gobekli' in thread titles. (A unique search term!) There are quite a few threads, including some featuring much more by Linda on this.

[Cardillac]

@Bill

many thanks for your up-grade on this- I hesitated to state about the Walt Disney aspect but now that you have mentioned this maybe more people will take notice of this-

please be well-

Larry

[Valerie Villars]

I'm listening to this now. Once again they show their hand. The supposedly very fit, and it sounds like apt, archaeologist on the discovery, died in a swimming pool. He was 61.

She discusses the possibility that the limestone pillars are "tuning forks" and I just laughed, because really our bone does the same thing.

[Spellbound]

and at 20:55, for a few minutes, she references human mutilations, which has been pointed out by others she doesn't often mention.

Hi Bill (and all). Thankyou for pointing this out. I've posted in the past regarding Linda's opinion of human mutilations (she previously chalked up the Brazilian case to agent orange according to a human mutilations documentary of Richard Hall a few years back). In the above clip, she maintains that she's only come across 5 cases that could be described as ET mutilation of humans compared to, what she figures is over 70,000 cases of animal mutilations (her number...not mine)...and so she just doesn't see the evidence for human mutilations. Somethings off here, imo. I was led to believe that thousands of people go missing each year (many are reported, many are not)....and that of the cases where people were found had the exact same characteristics as animal mutilations (no trace of blood within the body or in the surrounding area, sexual organs harvested, vital organs harvested, anal cavity cored out). Apart from that though, I've heard Linda speak in presentations back in the late 90's where she mentions stories of retrieved crashed ufos with various human body parts found inside the craft dating back to the 40's.

I love and respect Linda Howe very much. But I will never understand her position on human mutilations (unless she was warned off by TPTB...which is that was the case then I'm surprised she would even bring it up in the above noted clip in the manner in which she did).

Dave - Toronto

[greybeard]

Graham Hancock (Oct 28, 2018) - Ancient Civilizations: Interstellar Links to Göbekli Tepe

A lot that is extremely interesting on this video

"Some may be so" but well worth the viewing and possibly some discussion

Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AAROj2OZs

[OopsWrongPlanet?]

(I do however wish that some of these presentations would stop playing all that manipulative rousing music, as though telling us what to feel about it, and instead just let the information speak for itself.)

x

M

[greybeard]

What also frustrates me is when a may be so is touted as a fact. "Everyone knows"
Im not sure either that Graham Hancock would totally agree with everything in the video.

However I found the thought of these being energy devices plausible.
The pyramids could well have had an energy function.
We know so little and we think we are at the height of human evolution.

Chris

Chris

[Justplain]

I saw Hancock at a presentation at the university of Toronto a couple of years ago and he explicitly went out of his way to 'debunk' alien abductions (or any other alien contact, I believe). My respect for him as a researcher declined dramatically with that. I don't think that he's ever examined the work on Lloyd Pye's starchild skull which provides irrefutable genetic evidence of alien/human interaction. Hancock still has a few more rabbit holes to explore before he has a grasp on the bigger picture, IMHO.

[greybeard]

What really interests me is that things are cyclic and our ancestors seem to know that a massive catastrophic event was going to happen through studying the stars.
They must have known well in advance.
The time it must have taken to cover up the Gopekli Tepe site would have been months of work.
People just seemed to have disappeared.
There is so much coming to light now--
What lies under the ice in Antarctica?

Chris

[Mari]

I saw Hancock at a presentation at the university of Toronto a couple of years ago and he explicitly went out of his way to 'debunk' alien abductions (or any other alien contact, I believe). My respect for him as a researcher declined dramatically with that. I don't think that he's ever examined the work on Lloyd Pye's starchild skull which provides irrefutable genetic evidence of alien/human interaction. Hancock still has a few more rabbit holes to explore before he has a grasp on the bigger picture, IMHO.

I'm a fan of Hancock & just hope that maybe in the last two years he's changed his stance regarding alien abductions. New evidence is always appearing (usually!) & I for one, have had my mind changed on more than one occasion.....lets hope GH is in touch with his Humble side...

And I wholeheartedly agree with OopsWrongPlanet - the video music is bloody irritating!

[greybeard]

Rightly or wrongly I suspect that Graham Hancock--keeps aliens out of his presentations to gain credibility.
The moment you go into the likes of Atlantis and advanced civilizations you are already straining credibility and in truth most of the sites he speaks of could have been built with the aid of survivors of Atlantis (humans)

However I would have thought that he would have had to give permission for the opening video to bear his name--so he must have approved of the content--or maybe not.

Chris

[Mari]

Rightly or wrongly I suspect that Graham Hancock--keeps aliens out of his presentations to gain credibility.
The moment you go into the likes of Atlantis and advanced civilizations you are already straining credibility and in truth most of the sites he speaks of could have been built with the aid of survivors of Atlantis (humans)

However I would have thought that he would have had to give permission for the opening video to bear his name--so he must have approved of the content--or maybe not.

Chris

That's certainly a possibility, I think he's quite mindful of his reputation & has had to defend his corner quite a few times, not least with the director of Egyptian Antiquities (I think that was his title/can't remember his name either) So I can see that he would be sensitive in that area.
Not sure about having to give 'name permission' for the video though?

NTS, I've always enjoyed Graham's work & presentations.

[ichingcarpenter]

This video is not endorsed by G. Hancock but is someone's cut and paste of others views, including Graham's on the subject.

I'm a lost civilization type guy on this site myself not aliens.

[greybeard]

Graham Hancock has a living to make which he does with honesty and integrity.
So his presentations are aimed at his readership.
I dont think he is unaware of the possibility of alien influence just sticks to what is possible and plausible.
Who knows for sure what went on before the ice age.


I posted this elsewhere but its relevant here too.


Forty minutes into this video there is a section about dramatic reduction of the population.
Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6chtQLyuP3Y

[Bill Ryan]

Im not sure either that Graham Hancock would totally agree with everything in the video.



Well, it's not a Graham Hancock video. It's a re-titled opportunistic download-and-then-reupload, which is why it's out of sync and also slightly squeezed aspect-ratio-wise. Andrew Collins appears far more than Hancock. And I'd be 100% certain that the video was not released just yesterday.

It's almost exactly 30 mins long... probably a TV episode, maybe even from Gaia. (But I'm not a Gaia subscriber, so that's a casual guess. But some of the inside interview backdrops look like the Gaia studio to me.)

[greybeard]

While the cut and paste of the video is non too expert the content is I think valid and worth a look.
There is a lot to be found on u tube on this subject.

Chris

[greybeard]

Ha the opening post video has been removed by the user.
I wonder what instigated that.
I honestly think that GH would not have been too happy with his name being forefront in the title.

Ch

[greybeard]

Josh Sigurdson reports on Turkey's Erdogan declaring 2019 the Year Of Gobekli Tepe. The ancient site of Gobekli Tepe changes everything we were taught by academic archaeologists about ancient civilizations.
The extraordinary site which is hardly yet excavated is said to have been built around 12,000 years ago. Interesting, considering mainstream archaeologists claim human civilization randomly started around 3000 BC, about the same time as Stonehenge.
Gobekli Tepe is 7000+ years older than Stonehenge and far more intricate and well built.
The effort put into building this massive megalithic site is awe inspiring, yet the mainstream talking point regurgitating historians who are too stubborn to change their viewpoint and admit they were wrong with the uncovering of new information claim Gobekli Tepe is an anomaly and that it was the FIRST example of human civilization.
So let us get this straight... Primitive cavemen put down their wooden spears and randomly built a massive megalith out of stone without any prior knowledge?
The desperate attempt to cover up any examples of ancient human civilization dating back to and before the last major ice age during the Younger Dryas Period is absolutely astonishing. The evidence at this point is incontrovertible.
With a massive extinction event happening around the end of the Younger Dryas period where meteors and plasma bursts are considered incredibly likely, especially in light of recent findings like the massive crater in Greenland, it seems quite obvious that an incredibly advanced ancient civilization was lost from the face of the Earth following an ancient cataclysm, the likes of which we could not imagine.

So if the Turks could have built something like Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 BC, why couldn't Atlantis exist? Why shouldn't Plato have been right in recounting that ancient Egypt was just an offshoot of the Atlantians?
There are thousands of examples of pre-dynastic architecture in Egypt that far outweighs what the dynastic Egyptians were capable of.
There are countless examples in Giza alone, including the clearly water eroded Great Sphinx. There are countless examples in Peru including in places like Machu Picchu where you can clearly see pre-Inca stone work which is beautifully precise with rocks interlocking all while far more primitive Inca stone work is built on top.
The pre-Inca stone work was clearly struck by a massive earthquake while the Inca stone work was not.
There is a clear coverup of the origins of human civilization.
One has to ask why? Why do governments around the world restrict serious excavations and research into this? Why does the media attempt to discredit people like Graham Hancock and Dr. Robert Schoch as they expose clear evidence that the stories we've been told about ancient civilization are wrong? Who benefits? What do they know that they don't want us to know about?

We at WAM plan on going to Gobekli Tepe as part of an investigation into the true origins of human civilization and the massive cataclysm that wiped out an incredibly savvy, advanced civilization. You can find our GoFundMe link below.
Stay tuned as we continue to cover this issue closely! We cannot ignore a truth whose time has come! See our campaign to send us to Gobekli Tepe here: https://www.gofundme.com/send-wam-to-... Video edited by Josh Sigurdson Featuring: Josh Sigurdson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2vK6TtGv0

[Zampano]

Great!

This year in September I will make a roadtrip with a friend of mine in Turkey for 3 weeks, especially the South and South-East!

He is a Syrian refugee and knows the area at the Turkish-Syrian Border very well-he said we will need at least 2 weeks to see most of the interesting archaeological sights in this area, Göbekli Tepe JUST BEING ONE OF MANY. Also the enormous tunnel systems in this area!

I am really looking forward to this trip and will post some pictures and stories on here-for anybody who is interested.

More and more information is coming up about pre-existing cultures prior...not only before the Younger Dryas event, even more older.

[Sunny-side-up]

Thanks for posting an update on Gobekli Tepe greybeard/

Have a great trip Zampano, it sounds fantastic :sun:

I love this site and what it means to history and our push back in time, wonderful.

[TrumanCash]

Ancient Astronomical Symbols At Göbekli Tepe Confirm A Comet Swarm Struck The Earth 11,000 B.C.

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/ancient-astronomical-symbols-gobekli-tepe-confirm-comet-swarm-struck-earth-11000-b-c/



Dr. Martin Sweatman from University of Edinburgh’s School of Engineering thinks Göbekli Tepe, which is 6,000 years older than Stonehenge was once an ancient astronomical observatory. While studying symbols carved into the temple’s pillar known as the vulture stone, he and his team found evidence the ancient depictions of animals correlate with constellations and astronomical alignments associated with a comet strike.

Researchers dated the event to 10,950BC.

The dating from the carvings agrees well with timing derived from an ice core from Greenland, which pinpoints the event – probably resulting from the break-up of a giant comet in the inner solar system – to 10,890BC.

“It appears Göbekli Tepe was, among other things, an observatory for monitoring the night sky. One of its pillars seems to have served as a memorial to this devastating event – probably the worst day in history since the end of the ice age,” Dr. Sweatman said.

This does appear to correlate with my past life research and experiences. In 1995 I recovered my first experience of being forced into the Mantis artificial reincarnation system 12,389 years ago (which would be 12,413 years ago from now). I was placed in a woman's body and transported to Atlantis and ended up being sacrificed almost immediately in a temple ritual. The following incarnation into another female body occurred right after that and I had a very pleasant, full lifetime living in a house above the ocean on Atlantis and the climate was very mild and warm.

I did not recover the memory of any more lifetimes until several thousand years later so perhaps the Earth became uninhabitable for a period of time. I've also talked with a substantial number of people who have recovered past life memories and no one has ever mentioned any lifetimes 10,000 to 12,000 years ago.

More past life research needs to be done relating to this time period. I have found that the dating of past life incidents is quite reliable. I have crossed checked dates from other more recent past life incidents with historical library sources and found them to be surprisingly accurate.

[greybeard]

Andrew Collins: Göbekli Tepe - Temples of the Gods & The first Astronomers FULL LECTURE

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[Billy]

Please correct me if am wrong. From what I have read and listened to regarding Gobekli Tepe. The only reason the archeologist were able to date the site so accurately was because the site had been carefully covered with organic material, which they were able to date. Therefore it is the organic covering that is 12.000 years old. I am intrigued as to how long the site existing before it was covered over ?
Does anyone know if this has been answered ?

[greybeard]

Hi Billy
Good question.
I dont know but obviously the site was in use for some time before it was covered.
For sure it must be one of the oldest sites as yet uncovered.
At that time they obviously had information on the stars and possibly some expected cataclysmic event.
Thats the possible reason for covering it up, a sealed time capsule.
All very interesting
Chris

[onawah]

From another article on the site that Truman posted above, current estimates are 11,500 years old, but much at Gobleki Tepe is still unexcavated, so there may be layers underneath that are even older.
There are ruins currently underwater in different areas around the planet which are much older, such as off the coast of India but are much harder to assess, obviously.


Please correct me if am wrong. From what I have read and listened to regarding Gobekli Tepe. The only reason the archeologist were able to date the site so accurately was because the site had been carefully covered with organic material, which they were able to date. Therefore it is the organic covering that is 12.000 years old. I am intrigued as to how long the site existing before it was covered over ?
Does anyone know if this has been answered ?

[ichingcarpenter]

The Masks Found at Göbekli Tepe


Three of the masks found at Göbekli Tepe have undoubtedly a similar style to the example from Nevalı Çori. They show non-individualized faces. However, at Göbekli Tepe the mouth is not depicted, while the Nevalı Çori mask almost gives the impression of a screaming face. Together with the finds from other sites, a large repertoire of masks in different styles is suggested. All types, with and without mouth, more individualized or abstract, are also well attested for in the large repertoire of limestone sculpture found at Göbekli Tepe (Figure 6). Their treatment during the refilling events can shed some light on aspects of the use of masks during the PPN at this site.

https://i0.wp.com/www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2018/03/figure-8.jpg?zoom=2&resize=652%2C571


https://i0.wp.com/www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2018/03/figure-8.jpg?
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Figure 6: Selection of limestone heads from Göbekli Tepe, not to scale (Photos: N. Becker, D. Johannes, K. Schmidt, DAI).


Burial rites at Göbekli Tepe seem to have been applied to a part of a hierarchical system of anthropomorphic depictions. The enclosures’ central pillars are abstracted and clearly characterized as anthropomorphic. The surrounding pillars are also stylized, but smaller and contain zoomorphic decoration. They are orientated towards the central pillars and evoke the association of a gathering. Naturalistic anthropomorphic sculpture, which may partly depict masked people, is smaller and intentionally fragmented. The stone masks are strongly related to this category through form and deposition treatment. During backfilling of the enclosures, a selection of fragments, mostly (masked?) heads, and complete masks, was placed inside the filling, most often near the central pillars. If we assume that the stone masks are miniature or supra-sized representations of real organic masks actually worn, they could well attest that ritual activity at Göbekli Tepe and other sites included masquerade to the point where people became an active part within this complex mythology.

During the early Neolithic in the Near East, masks and masking possessed a significant role in rituals re-enacting mythological narratives closely related to death, taking place at sites with special purpose buildings and a noticeably rich iconography. This importance apparently justified the time-consuming and complicated manufacture of these praraphernalia as well as miniature and larger-than-life-sized representations of these items. A small amount of possible mask depictions in stone are all what remains of a presumably manifold Early Neolithic tradition of ritual masquerade.

https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2018/03/15/behind-the-mask-early-neolithic-miniature-masks-and-one-larger-than-life-example-from-gobekli-tepe-and-beyond/


This is a German research site that sprang out of the original, school, researchers and excavator of the site.
The video was oK, but rather simplistic I won't fund his vacation trip to Turkey but would consider funding the german researchers if I had the money ... which I don't

[greybeard]

200 New Stone Pillars Discovered at Gobekli Tepe | Ancient Architects
Archaeologists have discovered new temples and standing stones at #GobekliTepe in #Turkey, a site which has been dubbed ‘ground zero for human history’ earlier this month. At the beginning of July 2018, UNESCO’s world heritage committee added the truly ancient Turkish archaeological site to the World Heritage List. Gobekli Tepe had been on the so-called Tentative List for five years before the decision was taken at the 42nd #UNESCO World Heritage List Committee meeting in Bahrain. Watch the video to learn more! All images are taken from Google Images for educational purposes only.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITEMLOag4bA

[greybeard]

Göbekli Tepe Revealed
Astronomical evidence uncovered from Göbekli Tepe, the archelogical site where numerous stone circles were discovered. Various experts give their opinions on the find.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jogAbtY3MM&t=16s

[enigma3]

Now that the site has been mapped using ground penetrating radar I am looking forward to seeing it in map form. It is a large site. And nice to see Turkey recognize its importance.

[Builder]

This does appear to correlate with my past life research and experiences. In 1995 I recovered my first experience of being forced into the Mantis artificial reincarnation system 12,389 years ago (which would be 12,413 years ago from now).

When reading your book I always wondered how you get to your time estimates. In the case above it's even an exact year. I am sure they didn't have calendars telling the year BC back then ;-)

Could you elaborate about your method?

[DeeMetrios]

Josh Sigurdson reports on Turkey's Erdogan declaring 2019 the Year Of Gobekli Tepe.......................................So if the Turks could have built something like Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 BC, why couldn't


Great article ..... Turks built it ? .... just using the word "culture of the time" is more suitable .

[greybeard]

What is Goebekli Tepe | Klaus Schmidt | TEDxPrague



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2CDa5zRQR0

[TrumanCash]

This does appear to correlate with my past life research and experiences. In 1995 I recovered my first experience of being forced into the Mantis artificial reincarnation system 12,389 years ago (which would be 12,413 years ago from now).

When reading your book I always wondered how you get to your time estimates. In the case above it's even an exact year. I am sure they didn't have calendars telling the year BC back then ;-)

Could you elaborate about your method?

I don't want to go off topic here, but the short answer is that we as spiritual beings can know when an incident occurred in relation to the number of earth orbits around the sun. I've been able to verify the dates (in terms of years ago) of some of my past life memories with historical references and it is surprisingly accurate. It appears that everyone has this ability when using non-hypnotic regression techniques. I don't know if it works with hypnosis. I am currently writing a book to explain in detail the non-hypnotic techniques I used. I will let everyone know when I am finished with this project.

I recently asked Bill Ryan if he knew of any other people doing past life regressions that may have uncovered a cataclysm around that time. His response is this post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1268489&viewfull=1#post1268489

Edit: I neglected to add here and to post #4 above that when I recovered the memories of my first two incarnations on Atlantis it seemed to me (as a knowingness) that Atlantis was what is now called Antarctica. I'm not 100% sure of this but if that is correct there was one heckuva change from nice weather to a very thick layer of snow and ice. I'm not sure if we are being told the truth about Antarctica regarding the age of the ice. Could it have been a pole shift, asteroid hitting earth, earth crust displacement, what...?

However, researchers Rand and Rose Flem-Ath confirm what I remember. They conducted extensive library research of ancient maps regarding Atlantis/Antarctica, a big island in the middle of the ocean:




Rand and Rose Flem-Ath show that 12,000 years ago vast areas of Antarctica were free from ice and home to the kingdom of Atlantis, a proposition that also elegantly solves the mysteries of ice ages and mass extinctions, the simultaneous worldwide rise of agriculture, and the source of devastating prehistoric climate change. Expanding upon Charles Hapgood’s theory of earth crust displacement, which was championed by Albert Einstein, they examine ancient yet highly accurate world maps, including the Piri Reis map of 1513, and show how the earth’s crust shifted in 9600 BCE, dragging Atlantis into the polar zone where it now lies beneath miles of Antarctic ice. [Source]: https://www.earthancients.com/?portfolio=rand-flem-ath-atlantis-beneath-the-ice

[greybeard]

TrumanCash
I dont think you post off topic as who knows who built Gobelkil Tepe or for that matter any of the very ancient structures.
People/survivors of Atlantis had a far reaching influence.

Chris

[Justplain]

Yes, the Pirris Reis map shows Antarctica running due east from northern Argentina. By the looks of it, the continental coastline continued east, passing south of Africa by small gap, perhaps 500-1000 miles.

The Pirris Reis map coastline has been confirmed as correct (under the ice) by the US military. So it seems that the theory that the continent has shifted south, likely due to something like crustal displacement, is a reasonably plausible hypothesis. Also, the extreme interest being taken of Antarctica by the military, etc., and the Nazi's before that, is an indication that this hypothesis may have a lot of merit.

[Fellow Aspirant]

TrumanCash
I dont think you post off topic as who knows who built Gobelkil Tepe or for that matter any of the very ancient structures.
People/survivors of Atlantis had a far reaching influence.

Chris

There's strong evidence for the existence of a lost civilization somewhere in western Turkey. One scientist posits that the people that eventually became the Luwians were responsible for the demise of many other cultures in the eastern Mediterranean. It's possible, if they ever existed, that their ancestors were responsible for Gobekli Tepe.

Here's the substance of an article from New Scientist (May 2016) :

link: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2087924-world-war-zero-brought-down-mystery-civilisation-of-sea-people/

By Colin Barras

The Trojan War was a grander event than even Homer would have us believe. The famous conflict may have been one of the final acts in what one archaeologist has controversially dubbed “World War Zero” – an event he claims brought the eastern Mediterranean Bronze Age world crashing down 3200 years ago.

And the catalyst for the war? A mysterious and arguably powerful civilisation almost entirely overlooked by archaeologists: the Luwians.

By the second millennium BC, civilisation had taken hold throughout the eastern Mediterranean. The Egyptian New Kingdom coexisted with the Hittites of central Anatolia and the Mycenaeans of mainland Greece, among others.

In little more than a single generation, they had all collapsed. Was the culprit climate change? Some sort of earthquake storm? Social unrest? Archaeologists can’t seem to agree.

Eberhard Zangger, head of international non-profit, Luwian Studies, based in Zurich, Switzerland, says that’s because one crucial piece of the puzzle is missing. Another powerful civilisation in western Anatolia played a crucial role in the downfall (see video below).

His investigations of the published literature show that western Anatolia is extraordinarily rich in mineral and metal ore deposits, meaning it’s likely to have been an important region in antiquity.

Through studies of satellite imagery, Zangger has also found that the area was densely populated during the Late Bronze Age. Only a handful of the 340 large city-like sites he has identified have been excavated.

“Some of these sites are so large you can see them from space,” says Zangger. “There’s so much waiting to be found it’s really just mind-boggling.”

Hittite texts talk of several petty kingdoms in western Anatolia speaking versions of a common language – Luwian. According to Zangger, that means we can legitimately talk of them as forming a Luwian civilisation in their own right.

We know from Hittite texts that the Luwian kingdoms sometimes formed coalitions powerful enough to attack the Hittite empire. Zangger thinks that 3200 years ago the Luwians did just that and destroyed the Hittite Empire (see map, above).

Shortly after the demise of the Hittites, Egyptian texts document an attack force they termed the “Sea People”. Zangger says it makes sense to view these Sea People as the Luwians, continuing their campaign for wealth and power and, in the process, weakening and destabilising the Egyptian New Kingdom.

The Mycenaeans, perhaps anticipating an attack on their territory, formed a grand coalition of their own, says Zangger. They sailed across the Aegean and attacked the Luwians, bringing down their civilisation and destroying its key cities like Troy – events immortalised in Homer’s Iliad.

On returning to Greece, however, and in the sudden absence of any other threat, Zangger believes the Mycenaeans squabbled and fell into civil war – events hinted at in Homer’s Odyssey. Their civilisation was the last in the area to collapse.

Zangger says that only such a sequence of events fits with the evidence documented in ancient texts across the eastern Mediterranean, and also explains why the archaeological record shows that almost every large city in the region was destroyed in warfare at the end of the Bronze Age. He sets out his ideas in a new book, and on a website that launches in English today.
Bombastic storytelling – but is it true?

So what do other archaeologists make of this idea of a lost Luwian civilisation? Many stopped trying to impose this sort of monolithic cultural identity on ancient peoples decades ago, says Christoph Bachhuber at the University of Oxford.

“Archaeologists will need to discover similar examples of monumental art and architecture across western Anatolia and ideally texts from the same sites to support Zangger’s claim of a civilisation,” he says.

The textual evidence available is mainly from post-Bronze age and it paints a slightly confusing picture, which could be seen as both supporting and undermining Zangger’s theory, says Ilya Yakubovich, a historical linguist at the Philipp University of Marburg, Germany.

Zangger’s broader “World War Zero” narrative is also debatable. “He’s bringing in this idea of ancient international warfare,” says Michael Galaty at Mississippi State University. “Most archaeologists would balk at using such terminology.”

Bachhuber calls it “big bombastic storytelling” and points out that today, archaeologists are sceptical that ancient narratives like Homer’s approximate historical truth.

Zangger, however, says there are several other ancient accounts of the Trojan War that all tell a similar story to Homer. One, written in the first century AD, even refers to now-lost Egyptian monuments that documented the conflict.

Despite these criticisms, though, there is near-universal praise for the fact that Zangger’s ideas will raise the profile of Late Bronze Age archaeological research in long-neglected western Anatolia, which can only benefit the scientific community.

“He’s really getting the ball rolling to do larger holistic studies of the area,” says Bachhuber. “I’m actually quite excited that he’s bringing attention to this region.”


There are many deep secrets hidden beneath the soils of western Turkey, just waiting for someone to have a dig.
Brian

[Delight]

I think Laird Scranton and Hugh Newman are among those who have connected interesting commonalities that indicte a primordial culture stretching globally and over time.


Hugh Newman of Megalithomania and 'Ancient Aliens' gives an overview of new megalithic anomalies including Gobekli Tepe, cart-ruts, keystone cuts, polygonal walls, geometric stone spheres, ley lines, the Sumerian-Tiwanaku connection, the giants of Egypt, elongated skulls and other discoveries. Filmed at the Green Gathering in August 2017.

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Laird Scranton shows how the sophisticated complex at Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is the definitive point of origin from which all the great civilizations of the past inherited their cosmology, esoteric teachings, and civilizing skills, such as agriculture, metallurgy, and stone masonry, fully developed.


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[mindbend8r]

Yes that's the question, why are they covering it up. Probably to try and maintain religious control in the world and to keep the truth from the people in the world. I think its important we know the truth about the ancient civilization because its seems they had some important knowledge that we do not have. They knew something that we need to know something humanity needs to evolve forward. But the elites are trying to keep it from the people. Along with everything else they are trying to hide. Cause underneath its all connected. All the lies are all connected to the underline truth.

[greybeard]

I think that in order to maintain control the elite do not want the population to realize that there have been mass extinction events.
The ancients seemed to know when one was on the horizon but they seemed to have strong spiritual belief in life after the death of the body which to some degree counters fear.
Now if the current population thought that there was a limited time before wipe out, what do you think would happen?
Perhaps every man for himself--take what you want sod everyone else.
Lawlessness beyond belief or perhaps an upsurge in the opposite--a world coming together in peace and harmony.
I dont know
The ancients prepared as best they could--underground cities etc.

Chris

Ps. Im not going to inform my grand children that there is a possibility of mass extinction event in their life time.
It would seem to be overdue in the time line of cyclic events.
"Make merry for tomorrow you die"

I would not put that responsibility on them.
It may not happen--who knows.

[mindbend8r]

I think a mass extinction event depends on the timeline that earth is on at the time that we cross a certain point. Id say back in the 70s the earth was on a destructive path on the time line. I think it could of been on a path to have a pole shift back in the 90s. I think that is why edgar Cayce predicted in it in one of his readings. Because at the time he did the reading the future time line of the planet was of that to happen. But the future as we see it is never sure to happen. We shifted the time line by incarnating souls with higher vibrations onto the planet and probably shifted the planet away from the poleshift. I still think there might be a point in the planets near future where it is possible it is going to have a global type of event that has the potential to cause mass destruction but I think it depends on the where the planet is on timeline and that of the collective consciousness of the people on the planet at the time it crosses that point..

[greybeard]

Graham Hancock (February 08 2019) - Gobekli Tepe Megalithic Architecture Completely Rewrites
History

This is really interesting---Audio with pictures.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9NqoeFFMo&t=12s

[greybeard]

Suspicious Observers recent video relates to ancient civilizations survival.
Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Dig In Comets might offer years warning. Ion changes could be seen months ahead of time. Rotation changes would mean an event is imminent. Most of the animations in this video were purchased from VideoBlocks or selected from the resource list below. Please be advised that copying some parts of this video may infringe on the rights of VideoBlocks and their creators. Numerous other animations were provided by Xaviar Thunders.

Lots of links on u tube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_LTCwNSH8

[Sunny-side-up]

Thanks greybeard.

Such a great time to be awake and see such ancient wonders and the consequences they reveal.

Wish both these sites in-particular could be carefully and openly worked on, we need our real history, we need to know what we where once capable of.
Amazing stuff ;)

[conk]

Interesting that so many of these purported underground facilities are roughly on the 33rd parallel, which by the way is also where so many UFO sightings and stories take place.

It is quite frustrating that conventional researchers and authorities have little interest in finding the truth of these magnificent structures above ground and labor intensive shelters underground. The rest of us are left to make sense of what is clearly evident, along with unique legends. Even the most addled brained among us must conclude no loin cloth wearing, stick waving peoples built them.

[Cardillac]

the discovery of Göbekli Tepe is nothing new-

been known for a long time- problem is...

yes, it re-writes history;

but then: what do we do with it?

Larry

[greybeard]

the discovery of Göbekli Tepe is nothing new-

been known for a long time- problem is...

yes, it re-writes history;

but then: what do we do with it?

Larry

The possibility is that part of it is a warning to future generations --cataclysmic events seem to be cyclic
Hence posting the Suspicious Observers video on this thread.
Being fore warned etc.
Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Larry.

the discovery of Göbekli Tepe is nothing new-

been known for a long time- problem is...

yes, it re-writes history;

but then: what do we do with it?

Larry

As you know 'Knowledge is information' what do you/we do with it, well that's Wisdom.

I wan't to know, good or bad, then I can make choices.

[Sunny-side-up]

Addition:

I realise what your saying there Larry.

What are we going to do with any of the information we gather from Avalon?
We are all compartmentalised as far as our collective endeavours.
We as communities (communities ?) no longer hit the streets to voices our views and or concerns anymore ?

[greybeard]

The opening video covers a lot more than the title suggests.
In a way the video by Suspicious Observers shows how up to date it may be.
Not much, if anything, we can do about regarding Magnetic Pole shifts or change in climate--where ever that's going, however I personally find these subjects interesting.
Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi again Chris.

Just pondering, slightly off the OP.

Have the 3 smaller pyramids been included into any views relating the famous giant pyramids, have they any extended alignments at all?

They seem important to me, but never seem to hear them mentioned in relation the the main?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR73bNj50m7gEvkjPc9b8toMCNPKvrwG9xj03JM1kLKB1DTrhQm

Things like: They look like they could have there apex/points connected by lines, wonder where they point to etc

[greybeard]

Sunny -side -up.
As far as I remember
These pyramid positions point to a star group--cant remember which.
Its amazing that the ancients had such a profound "star map"
All over their world they obviously studied in depth the sky.

Regards Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Chris

Just adding this, hope it new to you.

Leak Project

30,000 Year Old Aratta Civilization, Master Builders of Oldest Temple In World, Gobekli Tepe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOO6KOZKh5I

The Ancient Aratta Civilization of Ukraine, Older than Sumeria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHqsjR6MVY

These where very spiritual people and great stone movers.

Tartaia ?

The seed for most of our known ancient civilisations: Egyptians to India
Builders of Gobekly tepi ?

[greybeard]

From Sunny-side-up post, which is appreciate.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOO6KOZKh5I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHqsjR6MVY

[Ratszinger]

Great watch on both and wonderful info. Very cool. Thanks SunnySideUp

[Intranuclear]

Although some threads have mentioned this previously, I find that this is probably one of the most important pieces of information strongly suggesting that human history has yet to be written.

Turns out that some of Gobekli Tepe's carvings show/suggest/record a comet that struck earth about 10,950 BC which coincided with a mini ice-age.

This video does a pretty good summary of what has already been uncovered so far (that I know of) and that we have only uncovered about 5% of Gobekli Tepe.

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This link https://phys.org/news/2017-04-ancient-stone-pillars-clues-comet.html, one of many, talks about some of the science done to corroborate the comet strike.

We need more archaeologists and anthropologists and preferably someone with a time machine to help uncover the remaining 95% of Gobekli Tepe.

[Valerie Villars]

The video says the site was deliberately covered with dirt. Well, how could they have done that? They certainly didn't have bulldozers back then. Very interesting. I can't imagine a bucket brigade of humans dumping dirt could do that.

[Intranuclear]

The video says the site was deliberately covered with dirt. Well, how could they have done that? They certainly didn't have bulldozers back then. Very interesting. I can't imagine a bucket brigade of humans dumping dirt could do that.

Indeed!
The mere idea that they covered it shouts of something very important, whatever that is.

[Didgevillage]

The T-shaped stones could have supported wooden structure above.

Do we really know the age of the original Stonehenge?
The Celts were not the original builder of Stonehenge.
It is known that some Celts migrated to Anatolia (Turkey, the area where Ankara sits) from western Europe.
These Celts were later referred to as Galatians in the New Testament.

Not very far from Stonehenge, there is this bizarre village Avebury. Not that the village is bizarre but its entire structural plan is. It is modeled after Cydonia, Mars. Who built it, and for what purpose? And when?

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/louxsie/cydonrant.html

[Sunny-side-up]

The video says the site was deliberately covered with dirt. Well, how could they have done that? They certainly didn't have bulldozers back then. Very interesting. I can't imagine a bucket brigade of humans dumping dirt could do that.

Hi Valerie Villars
Peoples of the past where very capable of creating vast mounds and earthworks, they could have easy covered this site.

In fact the site they chose was probably a mound/hill of importance and they might have levelled it to build the site.
This would also have given them soil to cover the site at it's end of days.

what a truly great site they gave us by covering it :sun:

[greybeard]

This is the most sensible down to earth fact filled report on the possible reason that the site was buried
There is even mention of Scotland and Inverness my home town.
Massive waves throughout the world up to 2 miles high would have greatly reduced the population.
It would seem that at least some had advance warning of the approaching comet fragment impacts.
Chris


"By request. I give my theory or hypothesis as to why Gobekli Tepe was mysteriously buried 10,000 years ago....based on just some of the best evidence I could find. Included..Derinkuyu and the Thunderbolt & The Sphinx. (Anubis)"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iooYg0LVsU&t=317s

[A Voice from the Mountains]

This looks interesting and would connect a lot of dots.

You should show us some of the sites around Inverness some time. The historic places, natural scenery and the like. I probably told you this already, but many of my ancestors (Fraser clan) originally came from Inverness, at least since they settled there after the Norman invasion. They became Quakers and had problems with the Anglican Church in the 1700s and that's why they left.

[Franny]

Good find Chris, thanks for posting. Some of the comments below the vid on YT are quite good and informative as well.

I'm going to add the links he posted below the vid as they are worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fec%2FG%25C3%25B6bekli_Tepe .jpg&event=video_description&v=8iooYg0LVsU&redir_token=RG1XajVqTjz4M3AHV-K4K7RQC5h8MTU2MTQxNjUwOUAxNTYxMzMwMTA5

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.historicmysteries.com%2Fderinkuyu-underground-city-cappadocia%2F&event=video_description&v=8iooYg0LVsU&redir_token=RG1XajVqTjz4M3AHV-K4K7RQC5h8MTU2MTQxNjUwOUAxNTYxMzMwMTA5

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fs-i.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1590565%2Fimages%2Fo-EGYPT-GIZA-PYRAMIDS-facebook.jpg&event=video_description&v=8iooYg0LVsU&redir_token=RG1XajVqTjz4M3AHV-K4K7RQC5h8MTU2MTQxNjUwOUAxNTYxMzMwMTA5

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fgeorgemitrovicauthor%2Fproofs-of-cataclysms&event=video_description&v=8iooYg0LVsU&redir_token=RG1XajVqTjz4M3AHV-K4K7RQC5h8MTU2MTQxNjUwOUAxNTYxMzMwMTA5

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knowth.com%2Fsacred-geography-1.htm&event=video_description&v=8iooYg0LVsU&redir_token=RG1XajVqTjz4M3AHV-K4K7RQC5h8MTU2MTQxNjUwOUAxNTYxMzMwMTA5

[indigopete]

@greybeard, when I was a kid (around 13) I played the Euphonium in the Invernesshire wind ensemble at Eden Court Theatre. That would have been around 1977 just a year or two after it was built. I remember it being a fantastic and exciting experience because it was such a modern building at the time (still is) in an old and traditional town.

[mgray]

This is the most sensible down to earth fact filled report on the possible reason that the site was buried
There is even mention of Scotland and Inverness my home town.
Massive waves throughout the world up to 2 miles high would have greatly reduced the population.
It would seem that at least some had advance warning of the approaching comet fragment impacts.
Chris


"By request. I give my theory or hypothesis as to why Gobekli Tepe was mysteriously buried 10,000 years ago....based on just some of the best evidence I could find. Included..Derinkuyu and the Thunderbolt & The Sphinx. (Anubis)"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iooYg0LVsU&t=317s

I'd like to hear what Graham Hitchcock thinks of that theory.

[greybeard]

This looks interesting and would connect a lot of dots.

You should show us some of the sites around Inverness some time. The historic places, natural scenery and the like. I probably told you this already, but many of my ancestors (Fraser clan) originally came from Inverness, at least since they settled there after the Norman invasion. They became Quakers and had problems with the Anglican Church in the 1700s and that's why they left.

Your ability to receive PMs has been turned off--your welcome to come to Inverness. Chris

[sleepydumpling]

The historian Alan Wilson has said in his research that Britain was left devastated by an impact of some kind.
Probably a comet

[Did You See Them]

"Impact crater of largest meteorite to ever strike UK discovered"

The impact crater of the largest meteorite ever to strike the UK has been discovered 25 miles off the coast of northwest Scotland.

The one kilometre wide, three billion tonne rock smashed down in the Minch basin, between what is now the isles of Lewis and Harris in the Outer Hebrides and the town of Ullapool.

British researchers said a witness to the strike 1.2bn years ago would have had "quite a spectacle" as the meteor travelling at 40,000mph struck Earth with a force 940 million times greater than the Hiroshima bomb.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/meteorite-strike-uk-scotland-ullapool-oxford-aberdeen-a8951141.html

[indigopete]

There's also a large volcanic crater that's only really seen from the air, in a very beautiful and remote spot in the west Scottish highlands called the Ardnamurchan peninsula.

http://kilchoan.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-crater-rim.html

[greybeard]

Is 2019 The Year Of Gobekli Tepe? - The Ancient Site That CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Josh Sigurdson reports on Turkey's Erdogan declaring 2019 the Year Of Gobekli Tepe. The ancient site of Gobekli Tepe changes everything we were taught by academic archaeologists about ancient civilizations. The extraordinary site which is hardly yet excavated is said to have been built around 12,000 years ago. Interesting, considering mainstream archaeologists claim human civilization randomly started around 3000 BC, about the same time as Stonehenge. Gobekli Tepe is 7000+ years older than Stonehenge and far more intricate and well built. The effort put into building this massive megalithic site is awe inspiring, yet the mainstream talking point regurgitating historians who are too stubborn to change their viewpoint and admit they were wrong with the uncovering of new information claim Gobekli Tepe is an anomaly and that it was the FIRST example of human civilization. So let us get this straight... Primitive cavemen put down their wooden spears and randomly built a massive megalith out of stone without any prior knowledge? The desperate attempt to cover up any examples of ancient human civilization dating back to and before the last major ice age during the Younger Dryas Period is absolutely astonishing. The evidence at this point is incontrovertible. With a massive extinction event happening around the end of the Younger Dryas period where meteors and plasma bursts are considered incredibly likely, especially in light of recent findings like the massive crater in Greenland, it seems quite obvious that an incredibly advanced ancient civilization was lost from the face of the Earth following an ancient cataclysm, the likes of which we could not imagine. So if the Turks could have built something like Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 BC, why couldn't Atlantis exist? Why shouldn't Plato have been right in recounting that ancient Egypt was just an offshoot of the Atlantians? There are thousands of examples of pre-dynastic architecture in Egypt that far outweighs what the dynastic Egyptians were capable of. There are countless examples in Giza alone, including the clearly water eroded Great Sphinx. There are countless examples in Peru including in places like Machu Picchu where you can clearly see pre-Inca stone work which is beautifully precise with rocks interlocking all while far more primitive Inca stone work is built on top. The pre-Inca stone work was clearly struck by a massive earthquake while the Inca stone work was not. There is a clear coverup of the origins of human civilization. One has to ask why? Why do governments around the world restrict serious excavations and research into this? Why does the media attempt to discredit people like Graham Hancock and Dr. Robert Schoch as they expose clear evidence that the stories we've been told about ancient civilization are wrong? Who benefits? What do they know that they don't want us to know about? We at WAM plan on going to Gobekli Tepe as part of an investigation into the true origins of human civilization and the massive cataclysm that wiped out an incredibly savvy, advanced civilization. You can find our GoFundMe link below. Stay tuned as we continue to cover this issue closely! We cannot ignore a truth whose time has come! See our campaign to send us to Gobekli Tepe here: https://www.gofundme.com/send-wam-to-... Video edited by Josh Sigurdson



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2vK6TtGv0

[Franny]

Looks like the momentum on Gobekli Tepi is slowly picking up speed. GT and the meteor strike and related events are working their way into the mainstream :)

[greybeard]

Solved !! Gobekli Tepe, Harran, Sogmatar & The Sun Journey


The three most ancient sites in one of the oldest regions of the world give up a sun alignment tracking it's North-South journey over the year.

#gobeklitepe #alignment #harran #turkey #sun #solstice #sogmatar #history #youngerdryas #ancienthistory #discovery #watchers

Giza Pyramid's Meaning, Sogmatar, Shroud & Gospel Of Egyptians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Z0i...

Sogmatar ~ Gobekli Tepe | Lost Pyramid | & Hall Of Records?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Bav...

Harran, Tower Of Babel, Tarot, Gobekli Tepe & The Watchers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6xx...

Sogmatar, The Shroud Of Turin & ...Oak Island?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFE6...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbJNjAdLCWg

[greybeard]

The Worlds Oldest Temple Göbekli Tepe (Full Documentary)

. Göbekli Tepe is a massive monolithic complex in southeastern Turkey.

11500 year old man-made structures discovered in Turkey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VE-JEBU0k&t=241s

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Chris great vid post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VE-JEBU0k

I'm at vid point 8:31, needs some subtitles me think's

will carry on watching though :sun:

[greybeard]

Hi Chris great vid post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VE-JEBU0k

I'm at vid point 8:31, needs some subtitles me think's

will carry on watching though :sun:

There are subtitles available on u tube---but but but the software only does English--- so there is no translation.
The video is good but could be done in half the time.

Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

yup i forget YouTube has sub's and yup long winded but good vid.

Gobekli Tepe, they really understood how to pass on their important messages.

So glad they were so clever and far sighted.

[Hervé]

Gobekli Tepe is huge!- Only scratched the surface of Gobekli Tepe so far (http://martinsweatman.blogspot.com/2019/07/gobekli-tepe-is-huge-this-is-for.html)

Dr.Martin Sweatman Prehistory Decoded (http://martinsweatman.blogspot.com/2019/07/gobekli-tepe-is-huge-this-is-for.html)
Tue, 23 Jul 2019 02:48 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s26/531311/full/subsurface_rader.jpg
© T.Götzelt/DAI


This is for the benefit of those that haven't yet seen the subsurface radar scan of Gobekli Tepe. The above image is from Deitrich (https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/A1AA4FB20657599F859860D94CCD090E/S0003598X00047840a.pdf/role_of_cult_and_feasting_in_the_emergence_of_neolithic_communities_new_evidence_from_gobekli_tepe_s outheastern_turkey.pdf)et al., Antiquity (https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/A1AA4FB20657599F859860D94CCD090E/S0003598X00047840a.pdf/role_of_cult_and_feasting_in_the_emergence_of_neolithic_communities_new_evidence_from_gobekli_tepe_s outheastern_turkey.pdf) vol. 86 (2012), (https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/A1AA4FB20657599F859860D94CCD090E/S0003598X00047840a.pdf/role_of_cult_and_feasting_in_the_emergence_of_neolithic_communities_new_evidence_from_gobekli_tepe_s outheastern_turkey.pdf) freely available on the internet.

The little portion of Gobekli Tepe so far excavated corresponds to the detailed portion of the map, bottom right, which includes the main circular enclosures A to D. As you can see, even Enclosure D, the oldest and largest enclosure yet uncovered, corresponding to the uppermost green circle is small relative to some of the remaining structures.

The structure right in the middle of the plot looks especially interesting - being nearly twice the diameter of enclosure D. Considering the progression of these structures - they seem to get larger as they get older - perhaps this central enclosure is the 'heart' of Gobekli Tepe, and will reveal a great deal more about its function and purpose.

But some of the other structures remaining in the ground also look to be massive. Quite possibly, we have only scratched the surface of Gobekli Tepe so far, and the main event remains to be excavated.

[greybeard]

Considering the age of Gobekli Tepe and the preservation of the site due to the intentional covering up I really cant see why the excavation has not progressed more rapidly.

Chris

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings

I have a question...what is the elevation of Gobekli Tepe..? ...and another question...could a massive flood have buried the entire area ? I have a hard time with the idea people buried these sites...but I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer..maybe someone could help me discern this...thanks...blessings

[greybeard]

Greetings

I have a question...what is the elevation of Gobekli Tepe..? ...and another question...could a massive flood have buried the entire area ? I have a hard time with the idea people buried these sites...but I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer..maybe someone could help me discern this...thanks...blessings

Its an intelligent question Lefty Dave
The German who was in charge and others gave reason for believing that the burying was intentional.
The covering was done bit by bit it did not happen overnight--a lot of work involved.
The height above sea level given in one of the videos--cant remember but quite high.

Taken also with Turkeys underground cities --some one knew that a dangerous event was coming some time in advance. Maybe they thought they would come back and uncover it afterwards. Otherwise why bother?

Chris

[Hervé]

Greetings

I have a question...what is the elevation of Gobekli Tepe..? ...and another question...could a massive flood have buried the entire area ? I have a hard time with the idea people buried these sites...but I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer..maybe someone could help me discern this...thanks...blessings
Gobekli is a hill/mountain top.

It's not buried by sand or mud or wind blown dust or even gravel but by fair size stones which are not known to benefit from any kind of natural transport whether wind or water.

[Sunny-side-up]

yes it looks like Gobekli Tepe was carefully back-filled

[ichingcarpenter]

I think that the reason that their is so many circle walled monoliths and one of the reasons they were each buried over time is that part of the communal ritual involved was learning the communal construction of the circle including the layout according to the stars, gathering of stones, making the reliefs, planning the food and overall logistics involved. The transcendence from a hunter gathering society to an agrarian society was part of the curriculum that these teachers and masters were trying to communicate to the many that came there among other religious or spiritual practices they might have practice. I think this place was a college of some sort from the survivors of the great flood

[AutumnW]

Lefty,

There, at an elevation of around 760 m (2,490 ft) above sea level, the Göbekli people built one of the most mysterious and impressive temples on Earth,

https://curiosmos.com/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-built-12000-years-ago/

[greybeard]

Ancient Gobekli Tepe Discoveries That Are Almost Beyond Comprehension

Gobekli Tepe has probably explained one of the most important mysteries of all time, where and how did modern humans evolve. This is a masterpiece of work that brings ancient history to life. Göbekli Tepe’s last moments were preserved by back-fill 10,000 years ago that totally preserved it as a museum of early prehistory.
The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago. The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago. The prehistoric Middle East weaves together archeological, anthropological, astronomical, and spiritual aspects of Göbekli Tepe.

This is far more than a video about the archaeology of Gobekli Tepe. You need the ability to think outside the box and see the bigger picture, this ability has resulted in a fascinating and thought-provoking theory about the role of Gobekli Tepe in the rise of civilisation itself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c54TsJtWBiY

[Ti]

The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago. The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago.
You can say that again! ;)

Seriously though, Gobekli Tepi is one of my favorite sites. The mere idea that it was painstakingly buried by humans to conceal it for whatever purpose has always caught my attention. That's not a spur of the moment decision. I will watch the video now. :)

Edit: Excellent presentation, I thought he really kept the pace going without any lag or repetition, went a lot of places.

[Sunny-side-up]

Those pillars remind me of sword handles complete with: pommel, hilt/grip and guard.

Especially the 'Anglo-Saxon Swords'

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyZUGPgAvX3GDIbIAzZBSd3gYebRuq2p7rhM_YQnVW65ToC7FnLA

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4tr9hLoAohCpiJKGR_qreGCcj80lELrKfXTVViBG1TQ86eYXPUA

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAxidqeWyaPtQiKchvD9W2i2V-4wimlBJZ6kuKlY4bCWf6vNWmVw

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anglo-Saxon+Sword&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CdyorMSMn7vDIjhgjbNvgx6h-TGUiUP_1rYrmxQQ9Oq-2idR9Zad47O2Z0MIkhImRiB5SctzhLYQ_1oC_1TWQShPZ_1ADyoSCWCNs2-DHqH5EY8BEB_1O6IDAKhIJMZSJQ_1-tiuYRFT9qwUXMfVkqEgnFBD06r7aJ1BEPIXbQSl0hwioSCX1lp3js7ZnQEeLswQUF3rz6KhIJwiSEiZGIHlIRzWup_1_1pEUcUqE gly3OEthD-gLxE0Pxa2FI28tyoSCdNZBKE9n8APEZXTUNI1NmM-&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBloPZtubjAhVKWxoKHUOiCPoQ9C96BAgBEBs&biw=1501&bih=943&dpr=1

[greybeard]

Ian Hodder: "Origins of Settled Life; Göbekli and Çatalhöyük" | Talks at Google

Recent archaeological discoveries have upturned our theories about the origins of agriculture and the dawn of settled life. While climate change and economic adaptation have long been seen as prime causes, recent work at Göbekli and Çatalhöyük in Turkey has shown that social gatherings at ritual centers played a key role. The remarkable finds at Göbekli include 6 meter stone monoliths carved with images of animals and birds and forming ritual enclosures. Recent research at Çatalhöyük shows a fully fledged town in which wild bulls, leopards and the severed heads of ancestors were important social foci.

Ian Hodder was trained at the Institute of Archaeology, University College London and at Cambridge University where he obtained his PhD in 1975. After a brief period teaching at Leeds, he returned to Cambridge where he taught until 1999. During that time he became Professor of Archaeology and was elected a Fellow of the British Academy. In 1999 he moved to teach at Stanford University as Dunlevie Family Professor in the Department of Anthropology and Director of the Stanford Archaeology Center. His main large-scale excavation projects have been at Haddenham in the east of England and at Çatalhöyük in Turkey where he has worked since 1993. He has been awarded the Oscar Montelius medal by the Swedish Society of Antiquaries, the Huxley Memorial Medal by the Royal Anthropological Institute, has been a Guggenheim Fellow, and has Honorary Doctorates from Bristol and Leiden Universities. His main books include Spatial analysis in archaeology (1976 CUP), Symbols in action (1982 CUP), Reading the past (1986 CUP), The domestication of Europe (1990 Blackwell), The archaeological process (1999 Blackwell), The leopard’s tale: revealing the mysteries of Çatalhöyük (2006 Thames and Hudson), Entangled. An archaeology of the relationships between humans and things (2012 Wiley Blackwell).

This Authors at Google talk was hosted by Boris Debic.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwSg7OyvoE

[greybeard]

Ancient Gobekli Tepe Discoveries That Are Almost Beyond Comprehension

Gobekli Tepe has probably explained one of the most important mysteries of all time, where and how did modern humans evolve. This is a masterpiece of work that brings ancient history to life. Göbekli Tepe’s last moments were preserved by back-fill 10,000 years ago that totally preserved it as a museum of early prehistory. The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago. The extraordinary raised reliefs, pictograms, and pillars—many over twenty-feet tall and weighing many tons—tell the story of a forgotten culture from 11,500 years ago. The prehistoric Middle East weaves together archeological, anthropological, astronomical, and spiritual aspects of Göbekli Tepe. This is far more than a video about the archaeology of Gobekli Tepe. You need the ability to think outside the box and see the bigger picture, this ability has resulted in a fascinating and thought-provoking theory about the role of Gobekli Tepe in the rise of civilisation itself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c54TsJtWBiY&t=290s

[greybeard]

THEY KEPT THIS HIDDEN | This Is What Archaeologists Don't Want You To Know | Graham Hancock

The end time of the existence of the site keeps coming up as a cataclysmic event ---so my feeling is that they knew of a forth coming event and covered Gobekli Tepe site in order to keep it safe and undamaged--perhaps they thought that they could comeback and un cover it after the event.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYbe154a6C8

[greybeard]

The Vulture Stone of Gobekli Tepe: Pillar 43 Decoded | Ancient Architects


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dal1CChmPtc

Anybody who has taken an interest in Ancient Civilisations will know about the site of Gobekli Tepe, arguably the most important ancient site in the world. It was constructed around 10,000 BC, before being abandoned some time around 8,000 BC.

It is huge and megalithic and is know for its roughly circular enclosures with large T-shaped pillars that display exquisite relief carvings, mainly of animals, but also human arms and hands, geometric patterns, clothing, such as a fox pelt loin cloth, and also some images that are yet to be interpreted.

The most famous T-shaped pillar is known as pillar 43, also known as the Vulture Stone and thanks to the work of Andrew Collins, Graham Hancock and now Martin Sweatman, this stone pillar is getting the attention it deserves.

This pillar is the new Rosetta Stone of ancient history and Martin Sweatman calls it the most important ancient artefact in the whole world, and it allows us to decode the site of Gobekli Tepe.

Martin’s new book, Prehistory Decoded is out now and it is not just a fascinating read, but an important read, for those wanting to understand the origins of civilisation.

In this video I explain Martin's interpretation of the famous Vulture Stone, or Pillar 43, in my opinion the best explanation available that may show clear links between Gobekli Tepe and the Younger Dryas Event at the end of the last Ice Age.

Buy Martin Sweatman's new book, Prehistory Decoded, now at:
UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prehistory-D...
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[jaybird88]

when they say 8k BC how exactly are they coming up with that number? what dating system are they using. why do they not have the same dating problems with gobekli tepe as they do with all the other ancient sites made from stone?

[Bill Ryan]

when they say 8k BC how exactly are they coming up with that number? what dating system are they using. why do they not have the same dating problems with gobekli tepe as they do with all the other ancient sites made from stone?As best I know, when it was buried, the fill of dirt and stones contained human bones and other organic material. Those were then carbon-dated as normal.

[greybeard]

when they say 8k BC how exactly are they coming up with that number? what dating system are they using. why do they not have the same dating problems with gobekli tepe as they do with all the other ancient sites made from stone?

Who knows--the only difference is that the date was fixed by mainstream tradition people.
The date seems to be fully accepted.

Chris

[jaybird88]

when they say 8k BC how exactly are they coming up with that number? what dating system are they using. why do they not have the same dating problems with gobekli tepe as they do with all the other ancient sites made from stone?As best I know, when it was buried, the fill of dirt and stones contained human bones and other organic material. Those were then carbon-dated as normal.


Who knows--the only difference is that the date was fixed by mainstream tradition people.
The date seems to be fully accepted.

Chris

the organic stuff found in the fill would only confirm when it was buried which would mean the site is at least 8k years old, how long it stood before the burial would still be a mystery. unless there is something i am missing.

you guys ever hear hancock or bauval explain the celestial / procession dating they have been working with to date sites such as the spinx, giza pyrimids and Pumapunku? IMO this is going to be the next thing to dats ancient sites. i believe its much more accurate and you can go wayyy back, 20k - 60k years no problem.

[greybeard]

when they say 8k BC how exactly are they coming up with that number? what dating system are they using. why do they not have the same dating problems with gobekli tepe as they do with all the other ancient sites made from stone?As best I know, when it was buried, the fill of dirt and stones contained human bones and other organic material. Those were then carbon-dated as normal.


Who knows--the only difference is that the date was fixed by mainstream tradition people.
The date seems to be fully accepted.

Chris

the organic stuff found in the fill would only confirm when it was buried which would mean the site is at least 8k years old, how long it stood before the burial would still be a mystery. unless there is something i am missing.

you guys ever hear hancock or bauval explain the celestial / procession dating they have been working with to date sites such as the spinx, giza pyrimids and Pumapunku? IMO this is going to be the next thing to dats ancient sites. i believe its much more accurate and you can go wayyy back, 20k - 60k years no problem.

Yes I am aware that many of these ancient sites are very much older than many would believe

Have a look here and there are other threads devoted to this subject.
Chris
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107293-Ancient-Artifacts-That-Are-Still-Shrouded-in-Controversy-Today&p=1295389&viewfull=1#post1295389

[Billy]

The Vulture Stone of Gobekli Tepe: Pillar 43 Decoded | Ancient Architects


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dal1CChmPtc

Anybody who has taken an interest in Ancient Civilisations will know about the site of Gobekli Tepe, arguably the most important ancient site in the world. It was constructed around 10,000 BC, before being abandoned some time around 8,000 BC.

It is huge and megalithic and is know for its roughly circular enclosures with large T-shaped pillars that display exquisite relief carvings, mainly of animals, but also human arms and hands, geometric patterns, clothing, such as a fox pelt loin cloth, and also some images that are yet to be interpreted.

The most famous T-shaped pillar is known as pillar 43, also known as the Vulture Stone and thanks to the work of Andrew Collins, Graham Hancock and now Martin Sweatman, this stone pillar is getting the attention it deserves.

This pillar is the new Rosetta Stone of ancient history and Martin Sweatman calls it the most important ancient artefact in the whole world, and it allows us to decode the site of Gobekli Tepe.

Martin’s new book, Prehistory Decoded is out now and it is not just a fascinating read, but an important read, for those wanting to understand the origins of civilisation.

In this video I explain Martin's interpretation of the famous Vulture Stone, or Pillar 43, in my opinion the best explanation available that may show clear links between Gobekli Tepe and the Younger Dryas Event at the end of the last Ice Age.

Buy Martin Sweatman's new book, Prehistory Decoded, now at:
UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prehistory-D...
US: https://www.amazon.com/Prehistory-Dec...

Martin Sweatman talks about decoding Gobekli Tepe. Part one.

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Martin Sweatman takes us through the ages from around the world decoding ancient cave paintings and stone carvings which he connected to astronomical constellations, giving us time stamps of their creation.

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[amor]

If the people of the time of Gobekli Tepe were advanced enough to discern that something astronomical was on its way that would destroy them, they might also have discerned that it was of a cyclic nature; and so after the first destruction happened and they survived by using the site, they may have decided to cover it up to save it for use by their descendants of the distant future.

Kerry Cassidy has reason to believe that there are even deeper levels to this place which contains a stargate presently still in use. If so, the powers that be which are purported to be guarding these stargates will be having a say as to what happens there, albeit very quietly.

Speaking of cyclic destructions, I came across somewhere on Youtube.com a story about the Sun becoming so bright and presumably hot that people had to move underground to survive. Again, this was a cyclic event which we may be facing sooner than later, judging from the appearance of our Sun which has changed drastically and about which no one is saying a word. If anyone can add to this subject, please do so for all our sakes.

[greybeard]

amor I think your post is a very accurate resume of the subject.
I dont think cycles can be avoided but we can survive them.
Chris

[ichingcarpenter]

New Laird Scranton on Gobekli Tepe, F2B.



I've always enjoyed Laird's take on ancient language and ancient history. He talks about the symbolism on the pillars, time, the constellations in relationship to Gobeki Tepe. Worth your time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm6w2lgAg4g



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[greybeard]

What You Need to Know About Göbekli Tepe | Ancient Architects

Earlier this year a new research paper on Gobekli Tepe was released that sheds new light on the layout of the settlement and lifestyle of those that lived there.

This video is not about interpreting the imagery of Gobeki Tepe, but is more about its layout and development, important information if we want to make sense of the site. Scientific research is forever on-going and our knowledge is increasing all the time, but this research needs to get to the masses.

As my recent video on Pillar 43 has showed, there is a great deal of interest in Gobeki Tepe, but before I go further into the research of people such as Martin Sweatman, its important that we understand the background and development of the site in question, which has a history that spans from the 7th to 10th millenniums BC.

For this video I used research from the paper, Cereal processing at Early Neolithic Göbekli Tepe, southeastern Turkey, which can be viewed and downloaded here: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...

This is important background information, so we can learn about the development of the site, not just about the imagery on the T-shaped megalithic stones, but also the rectangular houses that rarely get discussed. Understanding how the site evolved, will help us in our interpretation in what the site meant to the ancient people.

All images are taken from Google Images, the paper listed above, are courtesy of the German Archaeological Institute, from andrewcollins.com and from Martin Sweatman's YouTube channel, 'Prehistory Decoded', and are all for educational use only.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZqBkOwfXjc

[greybeard]

New Laird Scranton on Gobekli Tepe, F2B.



I've always enjoyed Laird's take on ancient language and ancient history. He talks about the symbolism on the pillars, time, the constellations in relationship to Gobeki Tepe. Worth your time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm6w2lgAg4g



bm6w2lgAg4g

This is really good ichingcarpenter
Some presenters are easy to listen to and hold my attention --this is the case here.
Spell binding and a sensible view of the subject.
Who were we?
What amazes me is that the symbols for the celestial are the same as used now.
Scorpion for Scorpio etc
Symbols of the horoscope.
They knew the heavens in great detail--how?
Who taught them?

I wish they would get on with uncovering the site--many more treasures to be found I suspect.

Chris

[greybeard]

Gobekli Tepe Sister Site: Excavations Begin at Karahan Tepe | Ancient Architects
As reported earlier this month, archaeological excavations have begun in the southeastern province of Sanhurfa’s Karahan Tepe, another ancient site that is home to more than 250 Neolithic-era T-shaped pillars, which bear a striking resemblance to the more famous ones at Gobekli Tepe, which is 23 miles away from this sister site.

These pillars of Karahan Tepe were discovered in 1997, but were surveyed in 2000, in 2011 and again two years ago, surveys that were initiated by Istanbul University and headed by Professor Necmi Karul.

The surveys showed more that 250 T-shaped pillars and experts are almost certain they date back to the same period of Gobekli Tepe, some time between the 10th and 7th millennium’s BC. In fact, Karahan Tepe is just one of 12 more locations in the region that may have Gobekli Tepe-like structures hidden below the surface.

Watch this video to learn more about Karahan Tepe and please subscribe, like the video and please leave a comment below.

Thank you to Hugh Newman and Megalithomania for allowing me to use his images in this video. Watch the two videos on Hugh's channel to learn more about this enigmatic site:
Video 1: https://youtu.be/JGaGH2WY5Wc
Video 2: https://youtu.be/CXoCRP3isAM

Also check out the information on Karahan Tepe on Andrew Collins website at http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/art...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sQq36bYGDI

[ichingcarpenter]

Live at Gobekli tepe in southern Turkey
Brien Foerster ..... 13 hours ago


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOavg1FtdeuyUTLz3wmuIKQ

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[jaybird88]

does the name Gobekli tepe have any connection with Egyptian zep tepi?

[greybeard]

Main Line Mufon: Laird Scranton & Mystery of Skara Brae
Host Jenn Stein talks with author Laird Scranton whose research dives into Neolithic ruins in the village of Skara Brae north of Scotland that dates to 3200 B.C.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iXIa7Exgg

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Laird Scranton ~ Egyptian, Dogon and Buddhist Glyphs ~ 007
Many of the glyph shapes used to write ancient Egyptian words are also defined in Dogon and Buddhist cosmology. This presentation announces an alternate method of interpreting Egyptian hieroglyphic words based on explicit Dogon and Buddhist definitions.

Laird Scranton is an Albany, New York software designer and author of two books on Dogon and Egyptian cosmology and language. His research focuses on relationships between ancient myth and science, and his upcoming book, Sacred Symbols of the Dogon: The Key to Advanced Science in the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs outlines an alternate method for reading Egyptian hieroglyphs. He has lectured at Colgate University to classes studying his books and was recently invited to write three articles for Temple University's Encyclopedia of African Religion. His article in support of Marcel Griaule's Dogon cosmology based on parallels to Buddhism appears in the April, 2007 edition of Anthropology News, an academic journal published by the University of Chicago. He is featured in John Anthony West's Magical Egypt DVD series.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohy3St733UQ

[amor]

I have had an after thought about the animal drawings depicted on the Gobekli Tepe post which have been interpreted as astronomical in nature. Immediately below those drawings and under the horizontal line is an insect drawing with four legs on either side. It is not a Scorpion. The closest guess I can make is that it may be some sort of spider??? If it is, I am connecting a statement by Kerry Cassidy about the war in Viet Nam really being about an invasion of Spider Beings the size of a Volkswagon Car which entered Earth through a Stargate in the jungle there. These same creatures are supposed to have been responsible for EATING the population of Ankor Watt. My memory is uncertain, but I believe she mentioned there were much deeper levels where a Stargate exists and made a connection about the Spider Aliens coming through. A doorway for entry of dangerous aliens would certainly be a good reason for filling in Gobekli Tepe.

[greybeard]

Göbekli Tepe, The Younger Dryas and Reconstructing the Ancient Zodiac | Ancient Architects



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyVcjSGpWE

[Tangri]

7 years ago no one was interested in.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40643-First-contact-with-ET&p=433071&highlight=gobeklitepe#post433071

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Chris and thank you for the new info:

Gobekli Tepe Sister Site: Karahan Tepe and all the other related workings in and around Gobekli Tepe.
I had no idea their was so much, they where very busy, adds more context to Gobekli Tepe and the peoples who built it/her.

[greybeard]

Gobekli Tepe Zodiac Hypothesis: Questions Answered | Ancient Architects

As many of you will have seen over the past couple of weeks, I have recently covered the work of Martin Sweatman and his interpretation on Gobekli Tepe, that the Vulture Stone or Pillar 43 is in fact a star map documenting the time on 10,950 BC.

It is a great hypothesis and I gave it the air time it deserves but not everybody is convinced by his work, which leads me to a paper by the archaeologists who are currently working on Gobekli Tepe, in answer to Sweatman’s hypothesis.

In the video I offer their points of view and why they think Sweatman's hypothesis may not be true, but I also offer Sweatman's response to their points.

It's an interesting discussion and with so much of the site still yet to excavate, the definitive answers we are searching for may still be waiting for us underground.

You can read both the paper from the archaeologists, as well as the response from Martin Sweatman at https://www.academia.edu/33931844/MOR...

All images are taken from Google Images, from Martin Sweatman's videos on the channel 'Prehistory Decoded' and from the above mentioned paper, for educational purposes only.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFNM4kRgQY

[greybeard]

Urfa Museum Of Gobeklitepe In Turkey


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGv5FRWVkzA

[greybeard]

Exploring 11,500 Year Old Gobekli Tepe And Other Ancient Sites In Turkey





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DdNOWyV54

[greybeard]

Körtik Tepe ~ Older & The Builders Of Gobekli Tepe & Debunking History

Older than Gobekli Tepe, ...Located on the Tigris River, Körtik Tepe to me provides part of the answer to who built Gobekli Tepe...and were they hunter gatherers? This site was occupied 12,500 years ago to 11,700 years ago, right in the window of the Younger Dryas cataclysms 12,800 years ago and 11,600 years ag


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7D5JdgRv3o

[greybeard]

14 Thousand Year Old ENERGY MACHINE? New Discovery Gobekli Tepe! 2019-2020

Mainstream and independent researchers claim that Gobekli Tepe was a temple. However, Dr. Sam Osmanagich, Ph.D. has been the first scientist who has done energy measurements at the site: magnetic field, level of orgone energy, concentration of negative ions, infrasound, ultrasound, NEV (New Energy Vision camera) bioenergy fields.

His conclusion: Gobekli Tepe is an ENERGY MACHINE!

Megalithic and pyramid sites researcher Dr. Sam (www.samosmanagich.com), on Gobekli Tepe in Eastern Turkey, arguably the oldest megalithic site in the world.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbiY_-jhi1g

[greybeard]

Sefer Tepe ~ Another 11,000+ Year Old T-Shaped Pillar Site



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp8Pd0m6Qj8

[greybeard]

The Ancient Gobekli Tepe Creatures That Are Beyond Anyone's Imagination

There are animals depicted at Gobekli Tepe that don't match any known Earth animal today. As their faces are never depicted, they seem very likely to be related to supernatural beings, beings gathered at Gobekli Tepe for certain, but so far unknown, purposes. One sculpture retrieved from the site labeled "Urfa Man" has haunting black eyes depicted by crystals of obsidian, a sunken chin with no mouth whatsoever, and bears resemblance to some of the Moai heads in Easter Island, thousands of miles away.

Gobekli Tepe was buried 12,000 years ago by a race forgotten to history, even more strange it that the site was buried intentionally, why was this ancient site hidden from future civlizations ? Dated at around 9,500BC, these stones are 5,500 years older than the first cities of Mesopotamia, and 7,000 years older than Stonehenge.

"Some slightly out of date but probably proven true since then.
Chris"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYPJH_dHlo

[greybeard]

GOBEKLI TEPE - Actual Reasons It Was Buried 9,000 BC Revealed!

Göbekli Tepe is a name familiar to anyone interested in the ancient history and mysteries. Billed as the oldest stone temple in the world, it is composed of a series of megalithic structures containing rings of beautifully carved T-shaped pillars.
It sits on a mountain ridge in southeast Turkey, just 8 miles (13 kilometers) from the ancient city of Urfa, close to the traditional site of the Garden of Eden.
For the past ten thousand years, its secrets have remained hidden beneath an artificial, belly-shaped mound of earth some 330 by 220 yards (300 m by 200 meters) in size.
Agriculture and animal husbandry were barely known when Göbekli Tepe was built, and roaming the fertile landscape of southwest Asia were, we are told, primitive hunter-gatherers, whose sole existence revolved around survival on a day-to-day basis.
In this video we will try to answer the various questions that have been left unanswered since its discovery.
Who created Gobekli Tepe, and why? More importantly, why did its builders bury their creation at the end of its useful life?
In attempt to answer these questions, we are inspired by the book entitled, Göbekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S16N-w3oo1Y


Archaeologists Discover 12,000 year old Vulture Stone at Gobekli Tepe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfrofuCeKo

[greybeard]

The Mysterious Purpose of Gobekli Tepe Decoded At Last...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riyi3PJxgLk

[greybeard]

Oldest Temple in the World" Discovered at Archaeological dig in Mardin (Turkey)

Described by Archaeological researchers as "The Oldest Temple in the World" yet discovered, this site dates to 11300 Years ago to the time of the builders of #GöbekliTepe




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcHrSOKxHo4

[greybeard]

Körtik Tepe ~ Older & The Builders Of Gobekli Tepe & Debunking History

Older than Gobekli Tepe, ...Located on the Tigris River, Körtik Tepe to me provides part of the answer to who built Gobekli Tepe...and were they hunter gatherers? This site was occupied 12,500 years ago to 11,700 years ago, right in the window of the Younger Dryas cataclysms 12,800 years ago and 11,600 years ago.

https://gercekler.net/index.php/mater...
https://antiksirlar.com/konular/prof-...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7D5JdgRv3o&t=310s

[greybeard]

11,000 Y.O. Asikli Höyük ~ Re-Thinking "Stone Age" History
A look and some thoughts on the amazing finds at Asikli Höyük in Turkey. First occupied 11,000 to 10,000 years ago. Does Gobekli Tepe and Derinkuyu fit into this picture? This isn't the picture of the Stone Age I grew up with.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppnkNbpsVN4

[greybeard]

Amazing Buried City in Turkey Built During 12,000 B.C. | Ancient Aliens


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5VI5eAB7Wk

[greybeard]

This 12,000 Year Old Ancient Discovery is Shaking the Foundations of History..
There have been many ancient discoveries around the world that make us question the historical accuracy of our documented past. non more so than the discovery of this ancient stone circle site Gobecklie Tepe. This 12,000 year old site can be found in south-east Turkey and has been dated as the oldest temple ever discovered. A discovery shaking the foundations of known history...Featuring Graham Hancock, Paul Wallis, Freddy Silva, Gregg Braden, Linda moulten Howe, Andrew Collins and Jack Cary



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-li6rcPJ0

[greybeard]

Ian Hodder: "Origins of Settled Life; Göbekli and Çatalhöyük" | Talks at Google
The ritual origins of settled life in the Middle East: Göbekli and Çatalhöyük.

Recent archaeological discoveries have upturned our theories about the origins of agriculture and the dawn of settled life. While climate change and economic adaptation have long been seen as prime causes, recent work at Göbekli and Çatalhöyük in Turkey has shown that social gatherings at ritual centers played a key role. The remarkable finds at Göbekli include 6 meter stone monoliths carved with images of animals and birds and forming ritual enclosures. Recent research at Çatalhöyük shows a fully fledged town in which wild bulls, leopards and the severed heads of ancestors were important social foci.

Ian Hodder was trained at the Institute of Archaeology, University College London and at Cambridge University where he obtained his PhD in 1975. After a brief period teaching at Leeds, he returned to Cambridge where he taught until 1999. During that time he became Professor of Archaeology and was elected a Fellow of the British Academy. In 1999 he moved to teach at Stanford University as Dunlevie Family Professor in the Department of Anthropology and Director of the Stanford Archaeology Center. His main large-scale excavation projects have been at Haddenham in the east of England and at Çatalhöyük in Turkey where he has worked since 1993. He has been awarded the Oscar Montelius medal by the Swedish Society of Antiquaries, the Huxley Memorial Medal by the Royal Anthropological Institute, has been a Guggenheim Fellow, and has Honorary Doctorates from Bristol and Leiden Universities. His main books include Spatial analysis in archaeology (1976 CUP), Symbols in action (1982 CUP), Reading the past (1986 CUP), The domestication of Europe (1990 Blackwell), The archaeological process (1999 Blackwell), The leopard’s tale: revealing the mysteries of Çatalhöyük (2006 Thames and Hudson), Entangled. An archaeology of the relationships between humans and things (2012 Wiley Blackwell).




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwSg7OyvoE&t=354s

[Jayke]

There’s a YouTube channel I’ve been following recently who seems to have a talent for decoding ancient mysteries. In this video he looks at the architecture style of Gobekli Tepe and compares it to Mycanae (the home of king Agamemnon in the legend of the Trojan war).

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[greybeard]

There is a lot of good information coming out now regarding this site and others.
Of particular interest is the underground city in Turkey.
Thousands of people are said to have lived in it.
The people of that age seemed to have advanced warnings of impending disaster.
I dont think we yet have a "final" date/dates for much that has been found throughout the world.
All very interesting.
Chris

[greybeard]

This 12,000 Year Old Ancient Discovery is Shaking the Foundations of History..

There have been many ancient discoveries around the world that make us question the historical accuracy of our documented past. non more so than the discovery of this ancient stone circle site Gobecklie Tepe.

This 12,000 year old site can be found in south-east Turkey and has been dated as the oldest temple ever discovered.
A discovery shaking the foundations of known history...Featuring Graham Hancock, Paul Wallis, Freddy Silva, Gregg Braden, Linda moulten Howe, Andrew Collins and Jack Cary


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-li6rcPJ0&t=156s

[greybeard]

110,000 Yr Old Underground City Found In Turkey?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38LBjegFZo8

[greybeard]

The NEW Göbekli Tepe! - Is Karahan Tepe The Most IMPORTANT Ancient Site In The WORLD?

Josh Sigurdson goes to Karahan Tepe in southern Turkey to report on the latest excavations done at the ancient site! This site is truly turning out to be one of the most important sites on Earth as T-shaped pillars much like Gobekli Tepe are being unearthed on a hill known to locals as Kecilitepe deep in the Tektek Mountains.

Gobekli Tepe forever changed the textbook view of ancient civilizations, setting back the clock over 7,000 years to the end of the last Ice Age... The Younger Dryas Period.
Now as Gobekli Tepe is overwhelmed with tourism, the little known site of Karahan Tepe is finally grabbing the world's attention.
Said to be much larger than Gobekli Tepe with 250 known T-shaped pillars so far seen by surface studies, the site is bringing many new answers to questions regarding the possibility of a lost ancient civilization with great sophistication.
The dig is being headed by Professor Necmi Karul of Istanbul University and was recently excavated in September of 2019. The next major dig will take place in August and September 2020, but already there have been major findings!
Like Gobekli Tepe, the site seems to have been purposely buried about 23 miles away from the famous groundbreaking site. The ground is littered in what appears to be thousands of fragments of stone carved by man as well as hundreds of megalithic stones coming out of the ground as the land decays to desert.
We were the first on the ground since the recent excavations to report on it so we figured it was important to release a comprehensive documentary style report on the site.

Stay tuned as we continue to post our trips to important ancient sites in Turkey and elsewhere!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJy7yGgPjJ0&t=161s

[greybeard]

Gobekli Tepe, Genesis & The Pillars of Eden

By request. Gobekli Tepe and The Garden of Eden. I have covered at least 10 sites including Gobekli and Karahan Tepe....was this the Garden called Eden talked about in the Old Testament chapter of Genesis?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjmYKa79z14

[greybeard]

Göbekli Tepe: Incredible 12,000 Year Old Statues and Artifacts at Şanlıurfa Museum

Andrew Collins, author of Göbekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods and The Cygnus Key explores the massive archaeological museum in Sanliurfa, Turkey, looking at rare artifacts, statues and pieces found at Göbekli Tepe, a 12,000 year old megalithic complex that is now a UNESCO World Heritage Site.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLP9tPO8WVI

[Tangri]

There is a TV serial on Gobeklitepe subject. It is similar to "x files ". (Multidimensional way)

https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/81037848

[Sunny-side-up]

I think the builders, (survives of a past great civilisation) had achieved their purpose for building Gobekli Tepe.
Maybe it was all used to reset their energies, reset their position within the cosmos and of the animal realm.
Then they simply set it into the ground, for the future by covering it over, ritually in and as part of the Earth.
Then they spread out again around the globe seeding their knowledge.

Such a wonderful find is Gobekli Tepe

[greybeard]

BREAKING NEWS - Astonishing Revelations at 'Oldest Temple on Earth' // Gobekli Tepe




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMuc0d_f9ug

[Open Minded Dude]

Thanks for this thread. Love this ancient architecture stuff and all the mysteries and theories surrounding it.

Some diligence needed regarding a mistake in this clip: the name of the discoverer of this site is spelled Schmidt, not Shmidt, this name does not exist in German and might be due to the equivalent phonetics/sound (sh = sch).

There will be soon a Remote Viewing project by a famous RV organisation on GT about the purpose and also 'who' did it. Not sure where they will go with it (hope it's not ETs again ...) but I might post a link here, normally they have some amazing results in recognizing real life targets, so it might be interesting.

[greybeard]

Thanks for this thread. Love this ancient architecture stuff and all the mysteries and theories surrounding it.

Some diligence needed regarding a mistake in this clip: the name of the discoverer of this site is spelled Schmidt, not Shmidt, this name does not exist in German and might be due to the equivalent phonetics/sound (sh = sch).

There will be soon a Remote Viewing project by a famous RV organisation on GT about the purpose and also 'who' did it. Not sure where they will go with it (hope it's not ETs again ...) but I might post a link here, normally they have some amazing results in recognizing real life targets, so it might be interesting.

I agree with you Open Minded Dude -- we know so litle about the very ancient past -- I believe that there was a very advanced human civilisation pre history.
It would be appreciated if you post any remote viewing information that comes your way.
Regards
Chris

[greybeard]

The Mystery of Gobekli Tepe: June 2020

Hi Everyone!
Farsight just published The Mystery of Gobekli Tepe, available now on FarsightPrime.com. We now know what happened 10,000 to 8,000 BC. That is one of the strangest archaeological sites on the planet, and now we know why it has puzzled everyone for so long. We are now know much more about the history of extraterrestrial activities on this planet. Here is the trailer on YouTube.

THE MYSTERY OF GOBEKLI TEPE

The full documentary can be found on FarsightPrime.com.

Here is the link to the main web page for the project:

FARSIGHT WEB PAGE FOR GOBEKLI TEPE PROJECT

Warmly,
Courtney Brown, Ph.D.
FARSIGHT

[Open Minded Dude]

The Mystery of Gobekli Tepe: June 2020

Hi Everyone!
Farsight just published The Mystery of Gobekli Tepe, available now on FarsightPrime.com. We now know what happened 10,000 to 8,000 BC. That is one of the strangest archaeological sites on the planet, and now we know why it has puzzled everyone for so long. We are now know much more about the history of extraterrestrial activities on this planet. Here is the trailer on YouTube.

THE MYSTERY OF GOBEKLI TEPE

The full documentary can be found on FarsightPrime.com.

Here is the link to the main web page for the project:

FARSIGHT WEB PAGE FOR GOBEKLI TEPE PROJECT

Warmly,
Courtney Brown, Ph.D.
FARSIGHT

That was the one I also wanted to post. Here's the trailer by the way:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6t-DwaQFd8
As I 'feared' ... it's Aliens again ...

:cantina:

... hmmm okay .... Well, as usual at Farsight it's all done blind to the target and also with no contact between the different viewers, so it 'could' be true ...

:(

Guess I now need a Margarita, too.

:cocktail:

[greybeard]

Watching the trailer just now Open Minded Dude
Thanks
Chris

[Andre]

This explanation seems plausible if Farsight followed the RV protocols. I find it odd that people debunk RV when quantum physics admits time is an illusion and humanity's evolution would naturally include higher sensor perception such as telepathy and RV.

[greybeard]

Archaeology Evidence 11500BC Supports a Very Odd View of History | Gobekli Tepe YUGAS



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZA7I5mMmTs

[greybeard]

ARCHAEOLOGY NEWS - Astonishing Revelations at 'Oldest Temple on Earth' // Gobekli Tepe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMuc0d_f9ug

[Tintin]

Gobekli Tepe has been a site of much interest to archaeologists for really some time now. My own interest in this area of study - archaeoacoustics - is always piqued perhaps as it resonates with my musician me, and seems to answer questions that may be otherwise much harder to answer ("In the beginning there was the Word" is perhaps a clue.)

Here's the overview of this particular study undertaken in 2017:



We made an archaeoacoustic exploration at Enclosure D in the Göbekli Tepe archeological site. This site is the most ancient archaeological location recognized by archaeologists all over the world. It was dated 7,000 years before the Egyptian pyramids. Thanks to the site's discoverer we had the possibility to record the vibrations coming from the subsoil, magnetic fields and the sound produced by hitting with hand on central pillar n.18. The results are amazing and confirm that Göbekli Tepe has the same archaeoacoustic aspects of many other typical sacred sites we have studied in Europe and Minor Asia.

However the most interesting finding was understanding that the pillar we examined is probably at the centre of a sophisticated mechanism of vibrations and magnetic fields affecting the brain. This discovery is in contrast with our knowledge of the level of technology produced by the civilization who built these sacred temples. Our results have to be considered as preliminary results, however due to the death of the person who discovered the site and the current geopolitical situation in Turkey we cannot continue the research. We hope other researchers will be able to confirm our results in future.


Source (http://www.sbresearchgroup.eu/Immagini/Archaeoacoustic%20Analysis%20in%20Enclosure%20D%20at%20G%C3%B6bekli%20Tepe%20in%20South%20Anatolia.p df)

Archaeoacoustic Analysis in Enclosure D at Göbekli Tepe in South Anatolia, Turkey

September, 25. - 29. 2017, www.hassacc.com
Paolo Debertolis

http://www.sbresearchgroup.eu/Immagini/Archaeoacoustic%20Analysis%20in%20Enclosure%20D%20at%20G%C3%B6bekli%20Tepe%20in%20South%20Anatolia.p df

[Szymon]

Hi Friends,

This article reminds me of the work by Graham Hancock on the Gobekli Tepe an interesting read.

https://www.ancientoriginsunleashed.com/p/prehistoric-zodiacal-dating-code

Cheers,
Szymon

[ian33]

excellent subject
i came to similar conclusion(the stars have been employed since paleo, at least) using my own dating method.individual stars directly aligned for construction period and use, of ancient sites, mounds, egyptian and greek temples, ,pyramids worldwide, leading up to gothic cathedrals(templar knowledge from holy lands) and currently employed by masons, certainly the method of vertex star i discovered
my research is all in f.b. group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/164731090849175

[sunwings]

Very interesting article. I have made chatGPT do a summary for anyone who might be interested.

Göbekli Tepe, an ancient sanctuary in Turkey, is believed to be the world's first megalithic temple, dating back almost 13,000 years. Pillar 43, known as the "Vulture Stone," at Göbekli Tepe reveals an astronomical code that offers insights into the minds of ancient people and potentially explains the basis of many world religions. The code indicates a forgotten knowledge of how the position of stars changes over millennia, called the "precession of the equinoxes." This code, referred to as "zodiacal dating," seems to have been used across Europe and the Near East for tens of thousands of years, providing an alternative method for dating ancient artifacts. The ancient zodiacal symbols found in Palaeolithic cave art and Neolithic shrines align with the constellations used in the West today. The article suggests that the discovery of this ancient astronomical code has significant implications for our understanding of astronomy, prehistoric culture, and ancient artworks.


Please see this link to Bill's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121158-ET-Human-Hybrid-Disclosure&p=1558078&viewfull=1#post1558078) about using chatGPT on the forum. We realise members are trying to be helpful using chatGPT, but on the Project Avalon forum it is kindly asked to NOT use it. Thank you :flower:

[shaberon]

Interesting. I think it is at least partly true, the linked article suggests a connection between Indus Pasupati and Gundestorp Cernunnos, which is late to the party, I came up with this on my own and posted it years ago. But in this case at least we can agree it is probably on to something.

With Lascaux drawings and the like, it is more in the realm of speculation.

The Zodiac per se is considerably more modern--before ca. 600 B. C. E. it is probably more appropriate to say "constellations". There is almost no such thing as Aries. You have to squint and make up a story for it to even be noticeable. Libra used to be the "claws of Scorpio". So I would argue the Zodiac only happens by design, although some constellations like Capricorn probably were accepted before the "Circle of Animals".

"Pre-historic" meaning "before writing" means Lascaux drawings without captions, and artifacts without writing, obviously evidence that there were some ideas, but we cannot put words in their mouth since we just don't know what they said.

It may be as simple as the linked article described, but, you will notice that everything in it has blown away to dust, except for one thing, Pasupati. And he really has nothing to do with astrology. We have no continuity from Ishtar, Osiris, Lascaux, Catal Huyuk, or any of that, but Pasupati has millions of devotees.


This is what I found which will wash out any ideas that Mesopotamia or Egypt came up with anything. Those are credited with some of the earliest writings back to 3,000 B. C. E. because they are carved in stone and bricks. But if you look at their artifacts and mythologies, it would have been physically impossible for them to have independently authored anything. This is because they require Lapis Lazuli (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120912-Neo-Platonism-vs.-Capitalism&p=1560430&viewfull=1#post1560430). That linked post has information which shows that it had one source, which, in old times, was effectively India. And because it has one source, that means it was effectively traded to Catal Huyuk or Anatolia as early as 7,000 B. C. E., just due to physical figurines.

Think about that for a moment. It would have been physically impossible for Egypt or Mesopotamia to even begin having mythologies without this.

From the very beginning of writing, as well as the oldest artifacts, all depend on this Indian substance.

I am not saying that insect-repelling bedding material was not found in South Africa at an age of something like 100,000 years--again traded over distance--but there is nothing known to man in terms of the development of writing, art, religion, and the like, that does not depend on lapis.

Astrologically, is this highly equivalent to Taurus, yes.

But in actuality it means there is no evidence that shows anything other than a very ancient and rather large traders' network emanating from Indus Valley which remained intact for most of the Roman Empire. In other words, there was such a thing for about 8,000 years, until the West screwed up the connection and forgot about it. Pasupati didn't blink.

The whole time system is Indian. Chinese astrology is its own thing. Indian is basically the same as Western. In comparison the Indian Zodiac is somewhat blunted. They actually do not think much about the star signs, just about the Sun during that month. So the original Western astrology--prior to the Tropical system--must have been almost identical to India's, but then, the developing mythologies pertained much more to the signs than the Sun. For instance I am not sure the Indian Sagittarius is really a Centaur. Most of them are pretty close, but, it seems to me that the most telling one for the West is Gemini. In fact, in India, it is not even Twins, but a Couple. And then if you start looking at the Western Gemini, then in one sense you get the Pillars of the Temple of Solomon, but, the twins, the Dioscuri, are pretty suggestive of the Indian Aswins. Once you start comparing, the real Indian deities such as Aswins have nothing to do with Zodiac Signs, but with the Mansions or days of the Moon, which is barely known in the West.


So I think you had a mutually-intelligible, but not dictated or carbon-copy, system, which would have been the equivalent of world wide at its time.

But then by making the Tropical system, what happened? One notices all the months shoved to the end; Sept-, Oct-, Nov-, Dec-, instead of being 7-10, are now 9-12. By artificially "fixing" the equinoxes, it means that the Caesars, Julius and Augustus, July and August, are permanently fixed to the high summer.

Then everything started breaking and being forgotten. India simply did not make written carvings like other places--in fact the oldest Indian writing was carved around Aleppo which had a Hindu king around 1380 B. C. E.

In written manuscripts, India was conversant with the Roman coin "Denarius" in the 500s, but when copied by scribes around the 800s, they didn't know what it was and replaced it with something else.

Without quibbling over the details of what may be in the stars, what steps out boldly is the death of an 8,000 year unity. Nothing affected India, but here, we now use a rather arbitrary and artificial system, and are isolated or are seen as uncivilized by basically the rest of the world. Try to deny it but that is how it is. And so I think there is something of value which can be pinned to the Age of Taurus and the lapis trading network, and in fact both this unity and today's conflict can be found to be different interpretations of the Book of Ezekiel.

I believe that can be supported by all evidence known to man; older drawings might or might not be connected, but they are able to tell us far less than, for example, the Epic of Gilgamesh in two versions--Taurus and Aries.

[Vicus]

New statues found in Göbeklitepe and Karahantepe: The first painted neolithic statue was discovered

Arkeolojik Haber
Sat, 30 Sep 2023

New discoveries that will leave their mark on art history were made during the Stone Hills (Taş Tepeler) archaeological excavations. The first painted neolithic statue was unearthed from Göbeklitepe. The 2.3 meter high human statue in Karahantepe evokes a seated person with ribs, spine and shoulder bones emphasized. Remains of red, white and black pigments attract attention on the surface of the life-size wild boar statue made of limestone in Structure D of Göbeklitepe

New finds were discovered in Göbeklitepe and Karahantepe. At around 12,000 years old, Göbekli Tepe is the world's oldest megalithic site - and it has a "sister site" called Karahantepe.

A recent discovery in the world's oldest religious sanctuary, Göbeklitepe, "Potbelly Hill" in Turkish, which is described as the "zero point of history" has revealed a painted wild boar statue.

The UNESCO World Heritage site of Göbeklitepe has changed the way historians and archaeologists think about the cradle of civilization. And there is so much more to be discovered.

A painted wild boar statue was discovered during ongoing excavations in Göbeklitepe. The artifact, which contained red, white, and black pigment residues on its surface, was the first painted sculpture found from its period to the present day.

As part of the Taş Tepeler project, which sheds light on prehistory and has seen highly significant discoveries on a global scale, the archaeological excavations carried out in 2023 in 9 different areas have recently led to the discovery of human and animal statues.

The Türkiye Ministry of Culture and Tourism has released a written statement providing the following information:

In the D structure of Göbeklitepe, a life-sized wild boar sculpture made of limestone was discovered. The wild boar sculpture found in Göbeklitepe was situated on a pedestal adorned with decorations believed to include an H-shaped symbol, a crescent, two snakes, and three human faces or masks.


continue with pictures:

https://www.sott.net/article/484803-New-statues-found-in-Gobeklitepe-and-Karahantepe-The-first-painted-neolithic-statue-was-discovered

[Inversion]

In this video by AJ from The Why Files (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121830-The-Why-Files) he covers Gobekli Tepe and the encoded stones like pillar 43 (https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2016/10/14/of-animals-and-a-headless-man-gobekli-tepe-pillar-43/) aka The Vulture Stone. He talks about comet Encke (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Encke) and at one time it was 100 miles wide. At some point in the past, it broke apart and every year we pass through its debris the Taurids (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurids) meteor shower which happens to peak in three days. He compares it to playing Russian roulette because there are mile wide objects in it.

11/02/23 (58:14)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xzFWW-FAA

Göbekli Tepe and the Vulture Stone Prophecy

We are the descendants of an ancient civilization; one which mastered technology, mapped the cosmos, and understood our relationship with the natural world.

Our ancestors traveled the world and built enormous structures. They scaled their creations into cities.

They shared a common governance and similar religious beliefs.
Our ancestors lived, as we do today, as a global society.

Around 14,500 years ago, this global superpower started to collapse.

First came uncontrollable change, and then a cataclysm. In less than a week, everything and almost everyone was gone.

Those left behind built monuments. Monuments not as tributes to Gods or homage to kings. The monuments are a warning to future generations: to us. That warning is simple: danger is coming.

Our civilization has ended before. And it will end again.

This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.

[shaberon]

This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.



This begs a couple of questions.

The archaic Younger Dryas Impact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis) hypothesis is very unlikely to have been a cataclysm.

The more recent Black Sea Deluge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis) hypothesis was also more likely gradual than it was sudden.


Would that change what is at Gobekeli Tepe?

[Inversion]

This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.



This begs a couple of questions.

The archaic Younger Dryas Impact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis) hypothesis is very unlikely to have been a cataclysm.

The more recent Black Sea Deluge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis) hypothesis was also more likely gradual than it was sudden.


Would that change what is at Gobekeli Tepe?

The Gobekeli Tepe site is in the southern part of Turkey near the border of Syria. The Black Sea is along the northern border. It's estimated to be around 12,000 years old. The Younger Dryas happened between 12,900 and 11,600 years ago.

https://www.archaeology.org/images/MJ2021/Gobekli_Tepe/Gobekli-Tepe-Map.jpg

[Lysis]

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=123387

Hopefully the link works. It is a research paper on gobekli tepe and the Hebrew god table. The claims that gobekli tepe is the pillars of Enoch.

Jesus is quoted saying "enoch is scripture" yet enoch is banned and during the crusades everything Enoch was targeted for destruction and burning. But if this was the pillars of enoch at 12,000 years old then what is hebrew/Judaism? Those are 3000 to 4000 years old yet their foundation is found at gobekli tepe.

So what is the real narrative? Did Abraham really burn his father terah alive in his home at the dictation of nimrod a few thousand years ago or is this just a retelling of another story that is far older? When the validity of a religion is in question due to evidence, religion seems to push for major conflict.

When religious texts were found in antarctica in the 1960s by an Australian expedition team the church was caught multiple times vandalizing the building the texts were kept at. Along with threats to media to deny the discovery and bury it.

A book was finally released in the 2000s called "genesis antarctica". It's about an ancient civilization of giants that existed before humans that had zero religious belief such as gods. Their culture was structured around reincarnation. It was only these beings that reincarnated and in the end that was their downfall as they became lazy.

Other races waged war out of jealousy over the fact that the giants reincarnated and the other races did not so the races that waged war believed that by wiping out the giants the reincarnation cycle would end and that the races would no longer need to worship the giants in order to have structures built like the pyramids.

I think the world is slowly waking to the idea that god and spirituality is not a scam but religion is. That our history as humans is far more interesting and eventful than we have been lead to believe. I don't think it's coincidence that the research paper came out 2023 and in 2023 Israel has made a huge push for global war. How much involvement did Israel have with epstein? That is a real sign of evil to unleash an evil like that in order to gain political advantage.

[shaberon]

But if this was the pillars of enoch at 12,000 years old then what is hebrew/Judaism? Those are 3000 to 4000 years old yet their foundation is found at gobekli tepe.


3,000 years old = ~1,000 B. C. E., which is a reasonable estimate for proto-Hebrew.

Judaism is multiple derivations of cult making formed within this.



This is fairly easy to frame.

The ancient Canaanite background is easily found at Ugarit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugarit), an ancient port city in northern Syria, in the outskirts of modern Latakia, discovered by accident in 1928 with the Ugaritic texts:



The polity was at its height from c. 1450 BC until its destruction in c. 1185 BC.

Scribes in Ugarit appear to have originated the "Ugaritic alphabet" around 1400 BC: 30 letters, corresponding to sounds, were inscribed on clay tablets. Although they are cuneiform in appearance, the letters bear no relation to Mesopotamian cuneiform signs; instead, they appear to be somehow related to the Egyptian-derived Phoenician alphabet. While the letters show little or no formal similarity to the Phoenician, the standard letter order (seen in the Phoenician alphabet as ʔ, B, G, D, H, W, Z, Ḥ, Ṭ, Y, K, L, M, N, S, ʕ, P, Ṣ, Q, R, Š, T) shows strong similarities between the two, suggesting that the Phoenician and Ugaritic systems were not wholly independent inventions.


The Baal of Ugarit was likely the same as the Baal of the Hebrew Bible.


The first serious indication that there is a "Judaism" is that Elijah discovers Yhwh and attacks Baal of Ekron and Ugarit. It then goes to an Israeli coup against the House of Omri, and the new Judaic follower king is found on the Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Obelisk_of_Shalmaneser_III), Created 827–824 BC:




“I received the tribute of Iaua (Jehu) son of (the people of the land of) Omri: silver, gold, a golden bowl, a golden vase with pointed bottom, golden tumblers, golden buckets, tin, a staff for a king [and] spears."


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Black_Obelisk_Yehu_in_front_of_Shalmaneser_III.jpg/800px-Black_Obelisk_Yehu_in_front_of_Shalmaneser_III.jpg



Jehu, bows before Shalmaneser III. This is "the only portrayal we have in ancient Near Eastern art of an Israelite or Judaean monarch"



So, they were specifically rejecting the whole Canaanite mythos.

That obelisk lists about thirty conquests and it is all about wealth and power--in fact we cannot find other examples of a conflict taking place because "my god is true" and "your god is false" like Elijah was doing. They might destroy some statues and force you to give tribute, but that was not because the old god was "false", it was "defeated".


It may be possible the Canaanite myths are related to those of Anatolia.

The difficulty is that if the Younger Dryas Impact and the Black Sea Deluge were wimpy, slow events, rather than cataclysms and massacres, if Gobekeli Tepe were read that way, it would be talking about something that never happened. I don't expect it to do that.

I would also have to question why the discovery of megaliths would mean there was an interconnected globe with one culture, language, etc., it sounds like there was no such thing that did not get destroyed by events that did not happen.


I may try to glean something from the Enoch link, there may be something viable in that area.

Concerning the Torah, it is entirely likely there was no such thing as Abraham, Moses, etc., until most of this material was invented during the Babylonian Captivity.

The Ugarit texts would reflect whatever had developed regionally since about 6,000 B. C. E.; the amount of readable scripts in numerous languages that pre-date Hebrew is overwhelming. It is probably the "youngest" mythology of them all.

[onawah]

You Won’t Believe This Disturbing Gobekli Tepe Update
Bright Insight
1.61M subscribers
6/10/24

"This 2024 UPDATE of Gobekli Tepe is genuinely shocking and disturbing."

(Briefly, the WEF is halting uncovering the ruins still remaining at Gobekli Tepe and are causing a lot of destruction by erecting roads and structures at the sight.
Clearly, there is something there they don't want the public to know about, and I would say it very likely has to do with the 12,000 year solar cycles, a BIG secret they are desperate to cover up, obfuscate and distract from.
Corsetti is going to follow up this video with more and he is starting a public protest against this outrage.)


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[Bill Ryan]

You Won’t Believe This Disturbing Gobekli Tepe Update
Bright Insight
1.61M subscribers
6/10/24

"This 2024 UPDATE of Gobekli Tepe is genuinely shocking and disturbing."

(Briefly, the WEF is halting uncovering the ruins still remaining at Gobekli Tepe and are causing a lot of destruction by erecting roads and structures at the sight.


More on this, posted by Helvetic on his thread: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1617541&viewfull=1#post1617541)



One of the biggest coverups that nobody is paying attention to!

Göbeklitepe has remained at 5% excavation for years and was placed under the management of The Dogus Group (DG) a massive conglomerate in Turkey which secured a 20 year partnership with the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM in 2016, allowing DG to oversee all actions taken at Göbeklitepe...

They are now saying that Göbeklitepe, the oldest and most mysterious archaeological site in all of human history, is to be left for "Future Generations", there will be no focus on further excavation of the remaining 95% that is still buried in our lifetimes if The Dogus Group and The World Economic Forum have their way.

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[TrumanCash]

It appears the globalists want to hide ancient history by taking over Gobekli Tepe.

https://banned.video/watch?id=66746fc7596fbdce292a7a2e

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[onawah]

Megalithomania/ Hugh Newman #29
Matt Beall Limitless
31.5K subscribers
Premiered Nov 21, 2024

"Hugh Newman from ‪@MegalithomaniaUK‬ joins ‪@mattbealllimitless‬ to discuss Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, additional sites in Taş Tepeler, and much more."

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[onawah]

New Revelations on Karahan Tepe: 11,000-year-old Sacred Geometry
Howard Crowhurst
4.46K subscribers
Dec 18, 2024

(This presentation demonstrates the remarkable mathematical precision used to determine the positioning of the various significant sites in Turkey, including Karahan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe in relation to each other and to the Sun, etc. as well as similarities to structures that are much more recent, by thousands of years.
So many mysteries yet to be discovered in these sites! )

"Karahan Tepe, located in southeastern Turkey, is one of the most significant archaeological discoveries of the 21st century. Often referred to as the sister site of Göbekli Tepe, it predates its construction, dating back to between 9,000 and 11,000 BCE.

In this video, Howard Crowhurst shares his insights to unravel the mysteries of this incredible monument. Was Karahan Tepe positioned in relation to other sites in the area? What do its statues reveal? What is the significance of the pillar shrine? Could there be a connection to Tiwanaku's symbolism?

Howard also builds upon Hugh Newman's remarkable discovery: the sun illuminating the side of a mysterious head emerging from the bedrock at sunrise on the winter solstice. He shows the astounding geometry revealed by this phenomenon and its connection to the ancient site's design."

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Göbekli Tepe: The World's First Sacred Geometry?
Howard Crowhurst
4.46K subscribers
Premiered Aug 7, 2024

"Over the last few years, a certain number of ancient sites have been discovered around Gobekli Tepe. They are known as the Tas Tepeler sites. In this video (the first of two), Howard Crowhurst proves incredibly precise geometrical relationships between two of these sites, Harbetsuvan Tepesi and Tasli Tepe, and Gobekli Tepe, over very long distances. He shows how this geometry is inscribed inside Gobekli Tepe. Once again, these are outstanding revelations which must change the way we consider the Earth's history."

00:00 - Start
03:00 - Date of Göbekli Tepe
05:22 - Sculpture
07:52 - Geometrical planning at Göbekli Tepe
11:12 - Orientation
12:26 - Modular geometry in the site
16:02 - The triple square
19:56 - The quintuple square
26:51 - Tas Tepeler sites
28:31 - Harbetsuvan Tepesi
30:38 - Tasli Tepe
35:17 - Modular geometry on a massive scale
40:41 - Exact angles on Google Earth
47:52 - Equilateral triangle in Carnac

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[ExomatrixTV]

GOBEKLI TEPE: Olive Trees Removed! Shocking Footage! (2025 Update):

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My recent trip to Turkey uncovered some startling findings about how ancient sites, specifically Gobekli Tepe, are being handled there. After all the recent controversy surrounding the trees and their removal thanks to the public outcry from the attention gained from Jimmy at ‪@BrightInsight‬ coverage, it was the perfect time to go see for ourselves along with ‪@NikkianaJones‬ Make sure to follow them both to see their take on this as well!

[onawah]

I Snuck into Gobekli Tepe…What I Saw Was Shocking
Bright Insight
1.69M subscribers
4/14/25

(Jimmy thinks that there is no intention to correctly excavate Gobleki Tepe and other nearby, similar sites, but just to make use of them as profitable tourist attractions.
And that there is a lot of destruction of artefacts taking place in the process. )

"I went to Turkey, and documented disturbing new details involving the ancient sites of Gobekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, and Sayburc. This is Part 1..."6ysUxLIc_Bs

[ExomatrixTV]

Something Huge Has Been Unearthed at Göbekli Tepe...:

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Who Really Built Göbekli Tepe? | Ancient Site, Joe Rogan Guests & Biblical Clues Göbekli Tepe is the world’s oldest known temple—carved stone pillars, mysterious animals, and cosmic alignments, all dating back over 11,000 years. But who built it? And why did they bury it? In this episode, we explore powerful insights from thinkers like Jimmy Corsetti, featured on the Joe Rogan Experience, and others who've raised big questions about our human timeline. We unpack the archaeology, the book of revelation and Biblical Genesis and the ancient warnings… without jumping to conclusions. Just honest questions, real history, and a surprising thread that might point to a much bigger story.

[ExomatrixTV]

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source (https://x.com/JohnKuhles1966/status/1934377830919365079)


Gobekli Tepe Coverup, Pyramid Structures w/ Jimmy Corsetti & Wandering Wolf | Forbidden Frontier:

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[onawah]

Robert Schoch ~ The End of Zep Tepi (The First Time), 12,000 Years Ago

Here is a new video featuring the work of Dr. Robert Schoch, focusing on the Zep Tepi site in Turkey near Gobleki Tepi, but on the same general theme of the repeating 12,000 solar cycle (continuing from the post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1674950&viewfull=1#post1674950).
Schoch earned his PhD in 1983 in geology and geophysics at Yale University. A full-time faculty member at Boston University since 1984, Shock is currently director
of the Institute for the Study of Origins of Civilization at BU's College of General Studies.

Robert Schoch ~ The End of Zep Tepi (The First Time), 12,000 Years Ago
Sacred Planet
11.3K subscribers
Streamed live on May 13, 2025

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[onawah]

Bill Ryan's take on Dr. Schoch's recent video about Zep Tepi and evidence of the repeating 12,000 year solar cycle


Here is a new video featuring the work of Dr. Robert Schoch, focusing on the Zep Tepi site in Turkey near Gobleki Tepi, but on the same general theme of the repeating 12,000 solar cycle (continuing from the post above).
(Schoch earned his PhD in 1983 in geology and geophysics at Yale University. A full-time faculty member at Boston University since 1984, Shock is currently director
of the Institute for the Study of Origins of Civilization at BU's College of General Studies.)

Robert Schoch ~ The End of Zep Tepi (The First Time), 12,000 Years Ago
Sacred Planet
11.3K subscribers
Streamed live on May 13, 2025

P89vtnSxKuUThis is quite long (3 hours!), but it's an evidence-packed, world-class presentation, well worth watching. I'm only half way through, but already there were a number of details Schoch explained which I hadn't been aware of.

Pertaining to this thread, his very clear conviction that the sun cycle is responsible for all the damage (and the end of the 'Zep Tepi'/Atlantean(?) civilization) starts in at around the 58:00 mark.

Alarmingly, he presents evidence that the ice age ended almost literally overnight, maybe within a couple of weeks. He argues that there were two major solar events, 10,900 BCE and 9,700 BCE (12,900 and 11,700 years ago.)

(For whatever it may be worth, though of course I'm no geophysicist or archeologist, I'm strongly persuaded that he's correct.)

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[ExomatrixTV]

A controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe | Norman Ohler and Lex Fridman:

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Norman Ohler is a historian and author of "Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich," a book that investigates the role of psychoactive drugs, particularly stimulants such as methamphetamine, in the military history of World War II. It is a book that two legendary historians Ian Kershaw and Antony Beevor give very high praise to for its depth of research. Norman also wrote "Tripped: Nazi Germany, the CIA, and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age", and he is working on a new book "Stoned Sapiens" looking at the history of human civilization through the lens of drugs.

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Major Discoveries at Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Sefer Tepe & Sayburç | Taş Tepeler | Megalithomania:

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Controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe | Irving Finkel and Lex Fridman:

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Irving Finkel is a scholar of ancient languages and a longtime curator at the British Museum, renowned for his expertise in Mesopotamian history and cuneiform writing. He specializes in reading and interpreting cuneiform inscriptions, including tablets from Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian contexts. He became widely known for studying a tablet with a Mesopotamian flood story that predates the biblical Noah narrative, which he presented in his book "The Ark Before Noah" and in a documentary that involved building a circular ark based on the tablet's technical instructions.

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What They FOUND at Gobekli Tepe MUST be Addressed...
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Dec 23, 2025

"There was a significant discovery made at Gobekli Tepe in involving a human Statue, which raises many serious questions about what is one of the world’s oldest, most mysterious, AND arguably the MOST important ancient archaeological site on earth."


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