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Eric J (Viking)
5th September 2011, 11:20
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report ...Help me de-bunk this article... I'm playing ping pong with Nick Pope at the moment, could do with some ammo!!!

Lets de-bunk the "Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report" ...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

If you click on the 'CONTINUED TO THE PLANES' it will take you to the next page...

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viking

Providence
5th September 2011, 13:30
The obvious demolition of Building 7, the best and most difficult for the authorities and individuals to debunk., is the one things that made it absolutely clear to me that there was something very wrong with the whole 911 scenario. And as I told one friend who has strong reservations concerning any kind of government conspiracy, if you see a problem here, you have to question the validity of the whole 911 event.

Also, here is a website that most people who resist any conspiracy theories, find very enlightening:

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

I listened to several radio shows on NPR which focused upon the conspiracy theories of 911 from the viewpoint of the Popular Mechanics articles. They made anyone who did not believe in the official investigative report to be "insane". Not exaggerating, they specifically identified all conspirators as somewhat insane, unable to accept reality, the truth, and only allowed the guest who was brought on to counter PM's claims, a total of 5 minutes air time for a one hour show.

Major disinformation campaign by PM and NPR... (IMHO)

kathymarie
5th September 2011, 16:33
This just in from eceti this morning....Former CIA Agent Tells All....


http://www.project.nsearch.com/profiles/blogs/former-cia-susan-lindauer-tells-all-911-was-an-inside-job

WhiteFeather
5th September 2011, 16:42
Hey bro here's a good link: Good Luck On Your Interview with Nick Pope. Is he the Ex Minister of Defence In England?
The Black Eagle trust Fund.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/black_eagle_trust_fund

WhiteFeather
5th September 2011, 16:47
Great Video By The Power Hour: In Plane Site 911, Awesome video to show Nick, starts with the Pentagon and works its way to WTC 7:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbGIdeNnTQ

Providence
5th September 2011, 18:02
Hey bro here's a good link: Good Luck On Your Interview with Nick Pope. Is he the Ex Minister of Defence In England?
The Black Eagle trust Fund.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/black_eagle_trust_fund

Good find, Thanks for sharing!

Cidersomerset
6th September 2011, 14:10
Thanks whitefeather....Great documentry well constructed without the hype of some of the others. I have seen clips from this documentry but not the whole thing...Cheers Steve

Cidersomerset
6th September 2011, 14:17
Hi Viking....Good luck with trying to convince Mr.MOD.Pope on anything in our field, if I had any more ammo other than the reems of info on the subject already at his disposal, I'd
lob in a couple of hand granades that might wake him up.....The video Whitefeather has put up is full of details any sane man would question ?

If they don't get it, or won't contimplate the obvious conclusion of a inside job they never will, so as I say good luck wish I could be more helpfull cheers steve...

Eric J (Viking)
6th September 2011, 14:24
Yes he's being fed with information from his manipulaters or he choses to ignore for obvious reasons...you cannot deny...

I'll keep chipping away until he tell me to ****ger off ... I posted this on his facebook page, he should get the message...!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVY-iQDO8pg&feature=feedu

viking

Cidersomerset
6th September 2011, 15:14
He 's to thick skinned, and is basically the M15 presence in our community, he freely admits it I've heard him say on several interviews that he is governed by the official secrets act so he could not

tell us or the media main or alternative anything that is not already in the public domain.Thats why i can not take him seriously.....I am sure he is actively still employed and his freelance journalism

is a bonus/cover, and of course there is his lucritive civil servent pension to take care of.......No the sooner this 'mole' is outed the better.....

9 /11 has also struck me that TPTB are taking the mick by its association with the US emergency no. 911, something I thought must be more than just coincidence ? maybe some kind of mind trick

on the US population !!!!!! Cheers Steve..

Cidersomerset
6th September 2011, 15:37
This is a turn up for the books, I am looking at some of Nick Popes vids just to wind myself up ...LOL and low and behold he suddenly seems to be announcing out of nowhere

That alian abductions are real......You better have a look and make sure I'm not dreaming !!!!!

It could be he has been abducted and replaced.......or maybe something is being prepaired on the lines of all these alian/disaster movies.....

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Seems to be something new ??

maybe he's a sort of liason officer, judging by some of his latest news appearence here commenting on the role of a new UN extraterrestial ambassador...

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This is a point I expressed on other threads he is called upon to represent the UFO community on every news station around the English speaking world. This concerned me as he has been foisted on us and has become an unofficial mouthpiece on mainstream and increasingly on alternate radio and History and UFO channel on any related UFO subject, hence the abduction vid above........This is either to place one of their men in a pivital mouth piece position to speak to the media ( just look at all his news appearences on UTube ) or some other dasterdly deed I'm still woking on..LOL anyway keeping me occupied for a while Cheers Steve

Peace of Mind
6th September 2011, 16:20
Every year they keep shoving the 9/11 tragedy into people faces…never really giving them the time to heal properly. As they re-open these wounds year after year…people will get more in tuned and will eventually start questioning certain aspects of the event. When you repeatedly place something in someone’s face sooner or later they will start noticing details they haven’t before. This blatant attempt at painting a terrorist attack is backfiring simply because a lie takes too much work to keep alive.

Truth will always show its head…If it was a real terrorist attack (as they depicted) the news would have died down astronomically by now. But it’s not. Why? They have to keep the masses mind focused on their objective. It is very crucial to their agenda that the populace doesn’t think otherwise. Soon their panicking ways will expose their betrayal and shameful crimes against humanity.The error of their ways is actually doing the work for us. We just have to take the blinders off...

Peace

Ecnal61
6th September 2011, 18:52
Nick Pope is a man who has fine tuned the art of wafferling about the ufo subject,for a man who spent between 3 to5 years at the M O D as there ufo man he seems to have found out almost zilch..zero..nothing..Nil! But wait, what is this in the first video ..the popemeister talking about alien abductions as if they are real!!, maybe this is a sign or a portent that the times they are a changing, maybe someone from zeta reticuli PROBED him or maybe he`s heard about the avalon forum and he wants to join our gang!!...shall we let him in?Lol

WyoSeeker
6th September 2011, 23:05
Looking at the PM web site and "debunking" information provided there are so many points that could be argued it would be hard to know where to start and would probably be futile in trying to convince someone who has an established belief. They refer to some eye witness accounts as being discredited while supporting some that don't seem verifiable. They refer to government reports that can't be trusted, and computer simulations that could be made to produce anything (speaking as a computer engineer).

Honestly, if someone believes that a 120 story skyscraper can collapse entirely into it's own footprint at the freefall speed of gravity with only damage to the top floors what do you say to them?

This is probably the best place for reliable scientific examination... Engineers and Architects for Truth

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

WhiteFeather
6th September 2011, 23:31
The Gem Is WTC 7, without a doubt in my book. Then The Pentagon that was hit obviously by something other than a 757 airplane. Here's a video from Lucky Larry Silverstein. Viking Show Nick Pope This One.
Lucky Larry coincidentally had a dermatologist appointment that day. Wow what a synchronistic event Larry. You had breakfast in the windows of the world on the WTC every morning. Watch this video as he lies through his teeth, watch the body language in his lying face.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScGZCqEyGM&feature=related
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What Fire Larry. Pull Trade center 7. It would take a good day to do a controlled demolition on WTC 7, and definitely not a good day to do a controlled demolition while america was under attack. Another Coincidence ehh Larry! Wow You have alot of Pull.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA&feature=related

WTC 7 Still Standing behind BBC reporter when BBC reports that WTC 7 fell already and in fact it did not. Watch This One Viking. Show Nick Pope this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAgi4Z5ImRU

Pete
6th September 2011, 23:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXKAyD6q_w&feature=player_detailpage

have a look at this, John Hutchinson has spent years experimenting with scalar energy, I think there is plenty to go on. You should ask him why no forensic examination of the structure, surely if 4 buildings succumb to catastrophic failure using an acknowledged building code, either there must have been foul play or the building code must be revised? why is no scrap of steelwork left for analysis?

WhiteFeather
6th September 2011, 23:50
Thanks for this One Viking, Awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVY-iQDO8pg&feature=feedu

winston smith1971
7th September 2011, 13:18
Hi I have not had time to read all of this thread but the argument that blows the official story out of the water is how could the so-called hi-jackers go from flying a Cessna propeller type aircraft to then flying a 747. It would be like someone with a provisional driving license, driving an F1 car perfectly...impossible.
Cheers Winston

winston smith1971
7th September 2011, 13:41
Myself and a couple a fellow Avalonians deal with the pathetic school boy ridicule on an all most daily basis in our work environment.You try to explain to them what really happened on 9/11 and 7/7 and they come out with puerile mocking and giggle like naive school girls.One even had the temerity to ask if all we did was watch sh*t. These immature and intellectually stunted morons are such slaves with their heads firmly in the sand they wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ar*e. You try to have a private conversation say about UFOs or Alien life and they but in and ridicule, my lower self begs for five mile long motherships to hover over every capital city just to see these plebs pi** their pants.Sorry if Im ranting but Ive heard them say "why would they kill thousands of people there aren't false flags, they've had 10 years to find out the truth" they say this with out doing any independent research,I mean just look at how many false flags there have been, gulf of tonkin, pearl harbour. One of the bas***d responsible for the Project for the New American Century even stated they needed a new pearl harbour...9/11
sorry for the rant but my emotions run high when confronted with ignorance and the thought of the millions of people who have died because of ELITE, TPTB etc.

winston smith1971
7th September 2011, 14:34
Operation Northwoods, 1967 - False Flags A Brief History
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hkPlLxnCic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hkPlLxnCic

Ecnal61
8th September 2011, 16:20
Hi winston, i am standing up and applauding you for your rant. someone who i respect on the forum is Darla K J P who promotes the raising of one`s vibrational level to further help with elevating your consciousness, but with the morons that you are talking about at work, that can prove to be a difficult task, and like you i myself try to refrain from verbal aggression when confronted by such ignorance but there are moments when i too wish an eight foot tall ET would materialise in front of such sheeple just to see them mess there pants then say "i told you so" i hope our ranting hasnt hampered our chance of ascension!!!

winston smith1971
8th September 2011, 16:31
Cheers Encal61, wonderful post you have summed it up perfectly. Unfortunately i think i may have set back my Ascension even more with this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29947-A-Daily-Battle.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29947-A-Daily-Battle.

Bollinger
8th September 2011, 18:05
The 911 attack was probably the most audacious of evil acts that has ever been committed. It served and continues to serve to this day many purposes and has fulfilled innumerable ramifications - all in a day’s work.

As naive as I was in those days, even then, when the news first came that a 110 storey building collapsed in a matter of seconds because a plane collided with it, seemed to me to be somewhat remote. I was sure that some other explanation would soon surface which would make the plane collision a distraction or a decoy. But, of course, none came. Essentially, the official version blamed everything on the fact that these two planes collided with the buildings.

I, like many millions simply swallowed the official explanation, heavily promoted by the media, for about four years. My initiation, if you like, into the world of alternative media happened in 2005. Though I have now lost a lot of the excess baggage that comes in this area – simply because, for reasons best known to them, we have among us a lot of deceivers and liars – 911 is the one glaring example of an act of pure unadulterated evil, that was clearly perpetrated by those we took as servants of the state, with ample and compelling evidence to suggest it could not have been done by anyone else.

Now, I don’t actually want to talk about why or how it was done since this is covered in many places and most people on this forum have a fair idea of this. Instead I want to talk about how it is possible to fool even the most intelligent and discerning people that black is white. There are many who simply deny and refute any suggestion that deviates from the official story. They refuse to even hear it.

This is most intriguing and peculiar because we’re not even talking about aliens, or life after death or spirituality or anything of that kind since for many people the mere mention of such things sends them into a mode of derisory ridicule. The 911 event is somewhat different. It is the crime of the century; very material-based and has real evidence stacked up to its eyeballs that completely destroys the official explanation. And yet, most people refuse to give alternative explanations sufficient air time and simply regurgitate what they’ve heard the media say; which is that there is no evidence to suggest anything other than the official story.

My personal analysis of why people do this, and I’m sure many of you have also reached the same conclusion, is that if one admits that the people they’ve elected to government are capable of such evil, it sucks all hope from their lives and leaves them empty as a shell. The shock of such a revelation is simply too much for people to bear because the ramifications are simply too far-reaching. So it is easier to live in denial and ignore the proverbial elephant in the room.

I myself am fully convinced that the evidence for foul play by those in government is overwhelming and cannot be refuted or debunked unless you are guided to do so by your emotions and sheer disbelief or even less excusable, trying to protect the guilty.

Every major incident that happened that day is awash with anomalous cause and effect. As if it is the first time that it ever happened in history, the psyche of the majority simply cannot even entertain the idea that their government can do such a thing. To deny iron clad evidence of foul play is tantamount to being guided by religion. In today’s world the media is the modern-day bible and despite the smiles and the gestures and the speeches and all the rest of the staged play-acting that they do, the authors have anything but our best interest at heart.

As always, we the people, especially those of us who’ve taken a conscious decision to distance ourselves from the religion of mainstream media, lie in wait for justice to be served.

Cidersomerset
8th September 2011, 19:10
Hi Robbie I know where your coming from, but if you get the chance watch the vid whitefeather put up previous page 9/11 Plane site.....Its well put together with less hype than others.Most of the facts you will have come across but the narrator calmly pieces it all together and your left in no doubt something is 'Rotten in Denmark' especially the Pentigon, and the pod on the belly of the planes are facinating and much more !!!

cheers Steve