Sun Stuff: What's up!

[Wind]

Well I can top that, I spent hours in the basement huddled with a bunch of animals because we had tornadoes here. I heard a rumor that it touched down 20-25 miles from me. My power was off most of the night. Extreme weather.

Wow, that sounds scary. I hope you stay safe there... I find nature to be fascinating because it has so much power and man tries to conquer it.

[Fairy Friend]

Well I can top that, I spent hours in the basement huddled with a bunch of animals because we had tornadoes here. I heard a rumor that it touched down 20-25 miles from me. My power was off most of the night. Extreme weather.

Wow, that sounds scary. I hope you stay safe there... I find nature to be fascinating because it has so much power and man tries to conquer it.

Wow there was a lot of damage my neighbor half a block away has a tree on his building mostly the garage thankfully. In my one block we have 5 trees down but it doesn't look like anybody had building damage other than the one. That was close. But I like it. there was a second touchdown much closer to me. Not sure if there are injuries yet.

[Sidney]

Gosh FF, I am so glad you are ok. Sounds like you barely just dodged a bullet.

[Fairy Friend]

That was close. Not my first tornado and I would deem this is pretty close. I was afraid for my pets. I'm glad my grandson was not here, they did not lose power at their house. Trees are down everywhere.

There is a belief that the lakes around Madison Wisconsin protect them from tornadoes, even the Native Americans felt this area was sacred and protected. But no place is immune and not the first tornado to touchdown here. The theory is the low-lying lakes make the tornado skip over the top of it. It's a theory.

[Fairy Friend]

I'm feeling energy in my teeth again and there was a slight bit of a pop but I was expecting more.

[Wind]

This is a great video when it comes to cosmic rays, climate change and coming cold weather.

bh-m7PKXMRs

[Fairy Friend]

Wow Tornado sirens went off again last night. Crazy. We had a second round of late night severe weather. I did not lose my electricity this time. My daughter was with me this time. I'm north so we tend to get the more wicked weather late in spring. Tornado Alley gets it earlier in the spring. Which is in some meteorology books but it's also in planting and Farmers Almanac.

I feel the energy in the storms. My daughter does too. My pets hate it. Some terrified. Some not to bad this time. Feels like deja vu.

[Sidney]

Hi Fairy Friend, I can understand your predicament. It is so scary when those storms roll through. I recently discovered some really good pet treats at Petco that have calming ingredients. They stopped carrying anything made in china so they are safe (from my experience anyway). The cats treats work pretty fast and have L tryptophan and chamomile. It is Petco brand Solutions calming aid. Im sure they have something similar for dogs. I usually know where the storms are headed in time to give the treats (about a half hour) but I am always watching the radar during tornado season. My daughters dog responds well to the thunder shirt. http://www.thundershirt.com/

Hopefully this weather won't last too much longer. The sun definitely affects the storms energies IMO, so true that. Glas you are ok so far. :)

[Fairy Friend]

yes I have thunder shirts for my dogs too. I think they work great. We have extreme weather lately everywhere. I like it. I will have to try those treats because my pets Do get quite stressed.
Be safe don't take chances. Glad for warnings. Okay I have been known to take chances. You have to do your thing and live life.

[Fairy Friend]

I have a bit of that floating feeling today I kind of thought the k index might be up but its not yet anyway. It may be disrupted sleep for two nights in a row. I don't see anything else on the Data but my head hurts a little but it might be my daughter and grandson are sick and I might be coming down with it.

[Fairy Friend]

Okay it was the K index going up.

[Zaya]

Yesterday was insane. I had a terrible terrible day. And guess what? It was not just me. That flare really did affect the whole tone yesterday.

Oddly enough, my boyfriend - who does not follow these CMEs like we do here - brought up yesterday how terrible the entire atmosphere was at his job and that he had looked it up and thought maybe the flare was why. I tend to agree.

SO many people randomly picked fights with me yesterday and all day I was getting brain zaps and teeth zaps. Very dizzy. Laid in bed for hours. Anyone else?

[Wind]

Last night I had the most intense and also unpleasant dreams. Cosmic rays were on the rise yesterday and the data feed is lacking now... When I see high amounts of cosmic rays I know that it's going to have a seemigly negative effect. A lot of energy is getting to us now with an increasing pace.

[Sidney]

I see we are at storm level. My local internet is out so things are being affected. I too had very weird dreams last night and i usually dont remember my dreams. I mean WIERD. I dreamed i was in a hospital preparing for back surgery and i was put on a cott with a zombie that had a scalpal and was trying to cut my lower lip off. And i was so heavily sedated that i couldnt do anything about it. I was relieved to wake up to find my face was intact. Lol

[Zaya]

I dreamt I was in prison :-( and it was very long and intense. My dreams have been crazy crazy crazy.

[Fairy Friend]

My dreams are bothering me too. And it seems like I'm not getting deep asleep like I'm only lightly sleeping. Like not going into REM. Rapid eye movement, which would explain why people are remembering their dreams. Maybe it's the fluctuating magnetics or the K index being up that made everybody's dreams more on the bad side. And the electrons keep diving which I think it helps zaps people strength. Making everyone cranky but too tired to fight.

[Fairy Friend]

I am wondering if something is starting to build in the Sun again. Maybe just starting to build I don't expect anything right away.

[Fairy Friend]

ok something popped sooner rather than later unless it's still building I've been deceived that way before. The Sun is tricky tricky. I expected more but there was some energy in this little pop.

[Wind]

When I plug into the dream world again I wonder if I will see intense dreams again, I wish not. I usually sleep quite shallowly anyways, it would be nice once in a while have a good restful and a peaceful night. One can always hope!

[Fairy Friend]

Okay this was the blast I was visualizing a few days ago when I made my more long-term prediction. So I feel like I scored. a blast from the Sun at Earth when Mercury Capri tween us and the Sun.


http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261

[Fairy Friend]

okay that didn't quite work the way I wanted it to but I will work on that.

[Wind]

Oh this one you mean? It almost looks like a direct hit, but we'll have to see the updates, according to Enlil it's not so direct hit. By using the "insert image" button in your reply box you can get the pictures to show up better. Tinypic (http://tinypic.com/) or imgur (http://imgur.com/) are good places where you can upload the pictures if you want to save them and then you can copy the links from there to here.

Spiraling Filament Eruption
An impressive filament eruption on Thursday afternoon in the vicinity of region 2093 produced a coronal mass ejection (CME). The event itself registered C4.0 on the X-Ray scale, but it was the ejected material that really put on a show. Watch closely as the plasma swirls around in a vortex like formation following the eruption. A coronal mass ejection (CME) became visible in the latest LASCO coronagraph imagery. More updates regarding a possible Earthward component once additional imagery is available. So far it looks to be headed mostly to the north and east. Video by the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) using the 304 angstroms channel.

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http://oi58.tinypic.com/24pfo9j.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

Yes thank you. that visual really matches the visual I had as though Mercury was trying to protect the Earth. & I expected some sort of coronal mass ejection more directly at Earth. And bigger but that was for the 19th and 20th so the day isn't over yet. Although I have to question the practicality of predicting things with the Sun, it's not like you can get a lot of heads up notice. I try and I don't think Mercury can really protect the Earth, so to speak.

[Fairy Friend]

It seems like they keep censoring so much data I thought I would put up some examples. Wind, Sidney...I know has put up some examples already but I thought I would show how there gaps in the graphs. So people know what we mean when we say they (SOHO) are censoring data etc. More and more. Sun seems mostly quiet.

[Wind]

Cosmic ray data feeds can be found here:
http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu//spaceweather/welcome.html

It's just that they cut off the data half of the time. Here is Dr. Paul LaViolette's article about cosmic rays:
http://etheric.com/research-study-finds-correlation-cosmic-ray-intensity-death-rate/

Interesting, isn't it?

[Fairy Friend]

Cosmic ray data feeds can be found here:
http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu//spaceweather/welcome.html

It's just that they cut off the data half of the time. Here is Dr. Paul LaViolette's article about cosmic rays:
http://etheric.com/research-study-finds-correlation-cosmic-ray-intensity-death-rate/

Interesting, isn't it?

Very interesting.

[Wind]

My right arm (biceps muscle) has been really sore for a couple days now, I can hardly even sleep because the pain keeps returning and then it goes away. I had to take ibuprofen today, but then after it I felt a huge pressure between my eyes. Then I got dizzy and started to swung like the hay man. Dreams have been very intense too. I don't know if all of this is related to sun activity or what. Wow, look at the electrons. Maybe that's what's affecting me?

http://oi58.tinypic.com/5oh0cg.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

I think things will take their toll too, when you get waves and waves of energy. So the graph may seem like it's settling down and the energies are dissipating from one perspective, if you look at the perspective of it taking a toll on the body it can seem to get worse and add up. One of the tricky and confusing things about predicting things I guess. I was thinking things were starting to build a little bit again too. I actually was checking the K Index because my first thought was it was going up but it actually looks like it went down. It is predicted to go up later but I have a feeling it might be sooner rather than later.

[Fairy Friend]

I'm kind of wondering what I'm seeing here and not the pixel part but to the left of it, it almost looks like something with a curved trajectory. I saw this one time before recently when a comet was sucked into the Sun and I'm wondering if that's what I'm seeing again. maybe on the top left also.

[Rocky_Shorz]

if you haven't watched the video on the papal key, you should look, it talks of 3 ships heading towards us, all of them arches, NASA shut down as they moved from Mars to our moon.

my seer visited last night and I have a description of those on this ship over in the Fulford thread I hijacked exposing the powers that were...

they were on the back of the moon, I hope I didn't put them in danger by exposing them here on Avalon... link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70263-Benjamin-Fulford-April-8-2014&p=845938&viewfull=1#post845938)

[Sidney]

Hi alll. My internet is still out and hopefully will be back tue so ive been limping along by using my phone which is a pain in the neck. But came down with a major headache about half hour ago. Are we being hit with some energies. I did not see anything but i am pretty limited with what i can see from my phone. Anyone else having symptoms?

[Fairy Friend]

I have been having a lot of aches and pains but I have been blaming weather and pushing myself physically. I actually thought I felt something a while back and checked and nothing was really there but it wasn't the strong enough of a feeling for me to post about it. About a couple hours ago, I really started to have my teeth act up. I don't see anything yet.

We also seem to have a lot of odd glitchy photos coming in. And it depends on the glitch, sometimes I think the Suns just going to act up and it interferes with equipment But something other than that seems up. Odd coincidences maybe but I have seen a lot of these little glitches.

[Wind]

My body and hand has been aching for days now and my right arm won't allow me to sleep well, but where is the CME hit? The Sun is once again dead silent and were still waiting for an impact, unless it missed us. Cosmic rays are finally showing again, but I think that they have been heavily modifying those charts, grrr... http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu//spaceweather/welcome.html

[Fairy Friend]

Its been bad for days with me too. My whole body. Everytime I think we're going to get something pop so to speak it turns out to be a little bump in the line. I was thinking I'm over sensitive now. You poke poke poke at one spot, maybe it's not poking as hard but you get tender and feel it more. The Sun is eerily quiet to me Too quiet, I just think something's going to happen even though there's only 10 percent chance of a M Class flare. Going with CME. It's a learning curve.

[Wind]

Unless there are no more sundivers I doubt that we will see any (significant) flares anytime soon. The sundivers activate the sun every now and then, but it's still too little. The price for the quiet Sun will be high, there's no other way to put it. I can't lie, sometimes it depresses me. I wish no one would have to suffer, but I can't help it.

M4YFw7to0rs

[Violet]

Hi alll. My internet is still out and hopefully will be back tue so ive been limping along by using my phone which is a pain in the neck. But came down with a major headache about half hour ago. Are we being hit with some energies. I did not see anything but i am pretty limited with what i can see from my phone. Anyone else having symptoms?

Not sure, mood swings but at the same time inner peace too. No headaches just slow motioning.

And lots of dreams, vivid ones and well-remembered with small effort.

[MorningSong]

This is what spaceweather.com is saying about the tardy CME:


THE FIRST MAGNETIC STORM OF SUMMER, DELAYED: A CME expected to hit Earth's magnetic field on June 22nd is overdue. However, NOAA forecasters believe it is merely late, not off-target. Minor geomagnetic storms are possible on June 23rd when the CME finally arrives.

Yet, this is the Presto Alert from June 21st....


:Issued: 2014 Jun 21 1422 UTC
:Product: documentation at http://www.sidc.be/products/presto
#--------------------------------------------------------------------#
# FAST WARNING 'PRESTO' MESSAGE from the SIDC (RWC-Belgium) #
#--------------------------------------------------------------------#
Two halo CMEs were detected by SOHO/LASCO. A very weak partial halo CME
(angular width around 270 degrees, projected plane-of-the-sky speed around
350 km/s) first appeared in the LASCO C2 field of view at 12:24 UT on June
20. It was associated with the C5.0 flare peaking at 11:20 UT in the
Catania sunspot group 89. Another partial halo CME (angular width around
160 degrees, projected plane-of-the-sky speed around 300 km/s) was first
seen in the LASCO C2 field of view at 05:24 UT on June 21. It was
associated with a filament eruption at the central meridian in the northern
hemisphere. The first halo CME was more symmetric with respect to the
coronagraph occulter, so we expect the arrival of the corresponding ICME on
June 24, possibly resulting in a minor geomagnetic storm (K = 5). The
second halo CME was mostly directed to the north of the ecliptic plane, so
we expect at most a glancing blow of a corresponding ICME on June 25
without significant geomagnetic disturbances.

http://www.sidc.be/products/presto/

Looks like the electron flux is back to "normal":

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/Electron.gif

Here's the latest SWPC 3-day Spaceweather Forecast:


Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Geophysical Activity Report and Forecast
SDF Number 173 Issued at 2200Z on 22 Jun 2014


IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 21/2100Z to
22/2100Z: Solar activity has been at very low levels for the past 24
hours. There are currently 7 numbered sunspot regions on the disk.

IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is likely to be low with a
slight chance for an M-class flare on days one, two, and three (23 Jun,
24 Jun, 25 Jun).


IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 21/2100Z to 22/2100Z: The geomagnetic
field has been at quiet levels for the past 24 hours. Solar wind speed,
as measured by the ACE spacecraft, reached a peak speed of 459 km/s at
21/2117Z. Electrons greater than 2 MeV at geosynchronous orbit reached a
peak level of 153 pfu.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected
to be at quiet to minor storm levels on day one (23 Jun) and quiet to
active levels on days two and three (24 Jun, 25 Jun) in response to a
series of transient passages.


III. Event probabilities 23 Jun-25 Jun
Class M 20/20/20
Class X 01/01/01
Proton 01/01/01
PCAF green


IV. Penticton 10.7 cm Flux
Observed 22 Jun 094
Predicted 23 Jun-25 Jun 100/095/100
90 Day Mean 22 Jun 136


V. Geomagnetic A Indices
Observed Afr/Ap 21 Jun 007/005
Estimated Afr/Ap 22 Jun 005/005
Predicted Afr/Ap 23 Jun-25 Jun 018/018-010/015-013/015


VI. Geomagnetic Activity Probabilities 23 Jun-25 Jun
A. Middle Latitudes
Active 45/45/35
Minor Storm 30/20/15
Major-severe storm 05/05/01
B. High Latitudes
Active 15/15/15
Minor Storm 20/25/20
Major-severe storm 25/35/25

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html

There is no big business going on up there, as far as I can tell.....

[Roisin]

IRIS Seismic Map: Earthquakes like you've never seen them, and you can even listen to the rumble!

IRIS, the Incorporated Research Institute for Seismology, doesn't just have a cool acronym. The non-profit consortium of over 100 U.S. universities also has very cool interactive seismic tools that allow you to see for yourself just how dynamic our planet's crust is.

You can play with the IRIS Earthquake Browser http://www.iris.edu/ieb/index.html?format=text&nodata=404&starttime=1970-01-01&endtime=2025-01-01&orderby=time-desc&limit=2000&maxlat=85.86&minlat=-85.86&maxlon=180.00&minlon=-180.00&pbl=1&name=Be%20sure%20to%20try%20the%203D%20viewer%2C%20see%20lower%20right&zm=1&mt=ter
... and see for yourself how many earthquakes (hopefully small ones) are happening in your area, or explore the rest of the planet to find hotspots (the Pacific ring of fire is particularly obvious in the map below:

http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2014/06/iris-earthquake-browser-01.jpg.650x0_q85_crop-smart.jpg

Here's the whole ring of fire, a 40,000 km (25,000 mi) horseshoe shape zone of high volcanic and seismic activity:

http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2014/06/pacific-ring-of-fire.jpg.650x0_q85_crop-smart.jpg

If you click on an individual earthquake while on the seismic map, it leads you to a page that gives you more details about that particular event (time, exact location, depth, magnitude), including an audio recording of the earthquake's soundwave! It's really cool, and some of these earthquakes sound like movie sound effect. This one sounds pretty cool, for example.

More on that page too.... http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/iris-seismic-map-earthquakes-like-never-seen-them-listen-rumble.html

[Fairy Friend]

I wondered if some of us were sensing earthquakes and not the Sun at all. It is really Popping, there are a lot of big quakes. Still feel terrible and achey. Had to actually take a pain pill. Don't know about anyone else but I feel the need to almost hang on to something.

[Wind]

I wondered if some of us were sensing earthquakes and not the Sun at all. It is really Popping, there are a lot of big quakes. Still feel terrible and achey. Had to actually take a pain pill. Don't know about anyone else but I feel the need to almost hang on to something.

Just better to buckle our seatbelts...

[Fairy Friend]

wow the magnetics went really freaky on this chart.

[Roisin]

I thought the following bit of information was interesting....


Alaska is the most earthquake-prone state and one of the most seismically active regions in the world, according to the U.S. Geological Service. Alaska experiences a magnitude 7 earthquake almost every year, and a magnitude 8 or greater earthquake on an average of every 14 years.

http://www.thenewsguard.com/news/article_82c7cb30-fb24-11e3-b1b6-001a4bcf887a.html

[Sidney]

wow the magnetics went really freaky on this chart.
I am definitely feeling whatever in heck is up with these energies. Emotions are intense today with accomoniment headaches. Sorry for the spelling. Typing on phone is not my forte. Lol
Even my cats are moody today. Interesting charts!!

[Fairy Friend]

yeah the Sun did let off a little energy and now the electrons are diving again. It reminds me of April, the energies were all over the place all the time.

[Wind]

I don't know if it's those electrons, but I really feel highly annoyed right now. Aching all over the body and my hand is killing me, very intense dreams too. I wonder if there will be many clashes around the world when people are under intense energy like this and it has been going on for some time... I think that the Earth is releasing pressure and it's affecting us. As they say, this too shall pass, but let it pass soon enough!

[Fairy Friend]

At this moment I don't feel too bad. I actually had to resort to pain pills yesterday and that's not usual for me. I'm glad I pushed my water I think a lot of people complaining of headaches and if you get dehydrated too, that just is like a downward spiral of pain. I think the hydration potentiates headaches for a lot of people and this dehydrates me. Electrons diving again.

[Wind]

To me it looks like the electrons are returning to normal levels now so I too feel a bit better.

[Fairy Friend]

To me it looks like the electrons are returning to normal levels now so I too feel a bit better.

Me too. Seems to have quieted down a bit as far as the Sun Goes.

[Sidney]

Its when those electrons either spike suddenlyvor take a nosedive that takes the wind out of my sails. Am just wiped today but i am back on line finally.

[Wind]

Its when those electrons either spike suddenlyvor take a nosedive that takes the wind out of my sails. Am just wiped today but i am back on line finally.

I've noticed that too, always affects me. If they take a dive it's no so bad, but if they jump up I get really anxious. Thankfully there has been no spikes in a while.

[Fairy Friend]

We've had minor waves of energy but nothing significant. And it looks quiet at the moment but my aches and pains just kind of went up.

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and now I see this.

[Wind]

We've had minor waves of energy but nothing significant. And it looks quiet at the moment but my aches and pains just kind of went up.

That's interesting because my aches have been bothering me for several days now, I just can't sleep well thanks to my aching arm and since I have CFS I truly need deep sleep more than anything, I just feel really unwell. Sometimes I hit rock bottom like this and then I just feel completely useless. My mind still functions, but my body is failing me. I think that the Sun's inactivity could be related to my condition, but it's just a theory. I don't usually talk about this because I don't want to cause concerns to others. Perhaps I could ask for some assistance, even though it is really hard for me.

Solar Flare Risk
M-Class: 01%
X-Class: 01%

[Fairy Friend]

I'm requesting healing for us both. And anyone else thinking the Sun may be affecting them.

[Sidney]

I too feel like there is activity from the sun that is not being charted. I had an intense spike in anxiety today, and there is full on chemtrail bombardment going on in my neck of the woods. That pic up there of the lasco 2 seems weird too. Upper all lit up and lower kind of in the shadows.

[Fairy Friend]

I don't know if it's my stuff but things don't seem to be updating like they should.

[Sidney]

Another day of absolute chemtrail mayhem here in So. IL. The above states "active". Not sure what I missed. But I always wonder about the very dark shadowing at the lower half of the solar disc. Is there something blocking the light from shining down? Seems like there is a huge elephant in the room, but I don't know what color it is.

[Fairy Friend]

I don't like the look of it either and its been like it for awhile. I live to the north of you and next to an airport so yes Chemtrails here. not doing too bad today. But I feel pressure.

[Fairy Friend]

It seems there are little waves of energy here and there. Nothing huge. My back is definitely feeling it lately. Nothing to indicate anything huge coming like M or X flares. We also have a new moon coming tomorrow I think.

[Wind]

I too wonder that what this current "energy" has been because the Sun has been seemingly quiet. Maybe it's linked to the earthquake activity, something might be brewing.

[Sidney]

I just did a few random searches on the movie theatre, just random dates,random years, along with todays date only 4 other random years. I didn't find other views, with the bottom of the solar disc, lying in a dark shadow like it is now. I find this rather disturbing. I mean, C mon, its the SUN. There should be light around it. Its not like we have half sun every month like we do the moon. Something has to be blocking out that light. Has some object moved in front of the sun? I am just throwing out my thoughts here. Anyone else care to take a stab at what is going on here?

[Wind]

You mean the dark bottom half of in the images? Image artefacts or bad editing, hard to say. They just hide so much.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/9u5ch1.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

We have a bit of a blast coming in now.

[Wind]

So it seems...

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2hcqfc1.jpg

[Wind]

Solarham:

"An eruption from just beyond the northeast limb generated a coronal mass ejection (CME) now visible in the latest LASCO C2 coronagraph imagery. The source region appears to be old sunspot 2082 from the previous rotation. We will begin to see the return of 2082, along with 2080 and 2085 during this upcoming weekend. Meanwhile on the Earth facing side of the sun, solar activity remains stable."

http://oi60.tinypic.com/9puhaf.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2irmbyo.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2moyq1t.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2daym13.jpg

[Sidney]

Wow, that was a pretty impressive CME!!!!!

[SilentFeathers]

I find this a bit suspicious....


TROUBLE FOR THE STEREO MISSION? NASA's twin STEREO probes, which can see the farside of the sun and make 3D models of incoming CMEs, have revolutionized space weather forecasting. We might have to do without them for a while. Later this year, the twin probes will pass directly behind the sun. Originally, mission planners expected a brief eclipse. Instead, operations could be curtailed for more than a year. The reason has to do with STEREO's high gain antenna feed. Ironically, when the antenna points too close to the sun, it overheats. As the probes pass behind the sun, they can't point their antennas at Earth without heat-sensitive components becoming dangerously hot. This engineering problem was not anticipated when STEREO was launched in 2006. On the bright side, it might be possible to avert a complete blackout using the antenna's sidelobes. Tests in July will evaluate this possibility.
http://spaceweather.com/

[MorningSong]

Nothing suspicious, really... here's a view of where STEREO is now:

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/where/where_is_stereo.gif

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/where.shtml

I found this explaination of the orbit on Wiki:


The two STEREO spacecraft were launched at 0052 UTC on October 26, 2006 from Launch Pad 17B at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida on a Delta II 7925-10L launcher into highly elliptical geocentric orbits. The apogee reached the Moon's orbit. On December 15, 2006, on the fifth orbit, the pair swung by the Moon for a gravitational slingshot. Because the two spacecraft were in slightly different orbits, the "ahead" (A) spacecraft was ejected to a heliocentric orbit inside Earth's orbit while the "behind" (B) spacecraft remained temporarily in a high earth orbit. The B spacecraft encountered the Moon again on the same orbital revolution on January 21, 2007, ejecting itself from earth orbit in the opposite direction from spacecraft A. Spacecraft B entered a heliocentric orbit outside the Earth's orbit. Spacecraft A will take 347 days to complete one revolution of the sun and Spacecraft B will take 387 days. The A spacecraft/sun/earth angle will increase at 21.650 degree/year. The B spacecraft/sun/earth angle will change −21.999 degrees per year. Their current locations are shown here.

Over time, the STEREO spacecraft will continue to separate from each other at a combined rate of approximately 44 degrees per year. There are no final positions for the spacecraft. They achieved 90 degrees separation on January 24, 2009, a condition known as quadrature. This is of interest because the mass ejections seen from the side on the limb by one spacecraft can potentially be observed by the in situ particle experiments of the other spacecraft. As they passed through Earth's Lagrangian points L4 and L5, in late 2009, they searched for Lagrangian (trojan) asteroids. On February 6, 2011, the two spacecraft were exactly 180 degrees apart from each other, allowing the entire Sun to be seen at once for the first time.[2]

Even as the angle increases, the addition of an Earth-based view, e.g. from the Solar Dynamics Observatory, will still provide full-Sun observations for several years. In 2015, contact will be lost for several months when the STEREO spacecraft pass behind the Sun.

They will then start to approach Earth again, with closest approach sometime in 2023. They will not be recaptured into Earth orbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO

[MorningSong]

RE: the flare mentioned above by Wind and Sidney, the fellows over at Solar Soft wrote this on the graphs (they often add humor to their observations):

"Very LDE (long duration event)
C1.7
Mostly behind East Limb
CME/EUVME
Spirited Run in
Slowest Flares,
Group C
(Hugh? through to knockout round?)"

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

It looks like to me that they weren't so convinced that it was only a C-flare, like me, too. And this bad boy will soon be coming back around to show his stuff again....

[Fairy Friend]

I don't feel too bad right now. It's still very dark under the Sun.

[Sidney]

I wanted to mention something. On June 21, summer solstice, I saw something that validates what I have thought for a while now. It is the second sun theory.
I went to purchase cat food at my local petco. As I was leaving the store, I noticed the sun setting right behind the strip mall there. TO THE NORTH
The west area of the sky was heavily blanketed by a bank of dark heavy clouds. So you could not see the sky at all, to the west, which is normal because 95% of the time, the sun rise and sun set are covered up by fake chem clouds. So where I NORMALLY see the sun go down, was 100% not visible.

I am over 50 yrs old. I grew up on a lake, I have lived at the ocean. I am an avid outdoors person. I KNOW which way is North and west, even in summer when the sun is as far north as it goes, on the solstice, the sun sets in the west, just further north. of course, I did not have my phone with me, dammm. Where I saw the sun set was almost straight due North. At the time, I was thinking to myself, well I must be just perceiving this wrong.

So I went over there last night at sunset, which is only 5 days later, and the sun was setting, well, where it is suppose to be setting. West, and no where nears behind petco. There is no way we could have had some sort of shift, I mean, that would affect the planet in a massive way, so the only explanation is that it was the OTHER sun, that I saw setting.

I am still dumbfounded. How could no one else NOT notice this. It was on the summer solstice, is that enough for people to just ignore this? I am still shocked at what I saw. But I DID see it. I know what I saw. It was clear as day. It was not covered by clouds, however it was obvious that the setting sun HAD dropped out of a clouded sky from earlier, so the sun was really only visible for maybe an hour or so, at the very end of the day before setting.

There HAS to be 2 suns. That is the only explanation. What now? What does this mean? I am still scratching my head over this.

[sheme]

Sidney on another thread I have put up my latest sunset shot if you enlarge the picture then tilt your PC screen as far back as you can you can clearly see two suns our own plus a much smaller one immediately above it -take a look, photo taken with a Nikon cool pix on auto. I wondered why the sun looked so triangular which is why I took a closer look- Awesome flares btw perhaps this is just the electrical connection with our sun.

[Sidney]

Sidney on another thread I have put up my latest sunset shot if you enlarge the picture then tilt your PC screen as far back as you can you can clearly see two suns our own plus a much smaller one immediately above it -take a look, photo taken with a Nikon cool pix on auto. I wondered why the sun looked so triangular which is why I took a closer look- Awesome flares btw perhaps this is just the electrical connection with our sun.

Awesome shot. It is undeniable at this point. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. The thing is, what I saw was not a small thing. It was probably not as large as the regular sun, but maybe half the size.

How long are the masses going to ignore this. And is this thing orbiting around the sun permanently, or is it headed in our direction. And how long do we have before it gets here. I am very disturbed by what I saw. Very very strange.

[Nick Matkin]

How could no one else NOT notice this?

How long are the masses going to ignore this. And is this thing orbiting around the sun permanently, or is it headed in our direction. And how long do we have before it gets here. I am very disturbed by what I saw. Very very strange.

I wasn't there with you when you saw what you saw, but what you probably saw was a sun dog (http://www.thepatientceliac.com/2013/03/26/sun-dogs-celiac-and-gratitude/). There are plenty of other similar images on the web. Quite often only one of the 'suns' is visible giving the impression of a smaller nearby sun. The phenomenon depends on local atmospheric conditions and is not usually seen over more than a few hundred square miles. I expect others saw it but knew what it was.

Unrelated, but don't forget that the sun sets at its northern most point in the northern hemisphere on the summer solstice and very slowly moves back west. It just isn't possible the sun is misbehaving without so many other effects - no really, "They" couldn't hide that! (Do people really believe this is possible?)

Now, you don't believe there are two suns do you? Surely not.

OK, so there are people on here who believe NASA hides or makes up stuff. Maybe they do, but two suns? Come on! Not something that could ever be missed by hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers the world over, even if it some how this second sun popped in and out of existence...

Ask an amateur astronomy forum and see what they say! (On second thoughts don't, that would just be embarrassing.)

Nick

[sheme]

I for one am not embarrassed about what I see- though patronising comments tend to make me feel embarrassed for the maker.
Is it a girl thing ? Do you think lady eyes work differently to really intelligent smart man eyes ? Perhaps you just had to be there.

Please show me a similar photo as they are so plentiful. With good intent.

[Nick Matkin]

Please show me a similar photo as they are so plentiful. With good intent.


Sun dog Google images (https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1252&bih=578&q=sun+dog&oq=sun+dog&gs_l=img.1.0.0l2j0i10j0l2j0i10j0l4.2043.3957.0.5618.7.7.0.0.0.0.152.823.2j5.7.0....0...1ac.1.48.img. .0.7.802.UAh4BW-oAOI) << click on that.

By the way, I have no idea who has lady eyes. I just know there are not two suns in this solar system. If you think there could be, please find an independent astronomer to explain where it is and why it has no gravitational effects.

Thanks.

Nick

[Sidney]

How could no one else NOT notice this?

How long are the masses going to ignore this. And is this thing orbiting around the sun permanently, or is it headed in our direction. And how long do we have before it gets here. I am very disturbed by what I saw. Very very strange.

I wasn't there with you when you saw what you saw, but what you probably saw was a sun dog (http://www.thepatientceliac.com/2013/03/26/sun-dogs-celiac-and-gratitude/). There are plenty of other similar images on the web. Quite often only one of the 'suns' is visible giving the impression of a smaller nearby sun. The phenomenon depends on local atmospheric conditions and is not usually seen over more than a few hundred square miles. I expect others saw it but knew what it was.

Unrelated, but don't forget that the sun sets at its northern most point in the northern hemisphere on the summer solstice and very slowly moves back west. It just isn't possible the sun is misbehaving without so many other effects - no really, "They" couldn't hide that! (Do people really believe this is possible?)

Now, you don't believe there are two suns do you? Surely not.

OK, so there are people on here who believe NASA hides or makes up stuff. Maybe they do, but two suns? Come on! Not something that could ever be missed by hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers the world over, even if it some how this second sun popped in and out of existence...

Ask an amateur astronomy forum and see what they say! (On second thoughts don't, that would just be embarrassing.)

Nick

NO!!!!!!!! I know what a sun dog is. I see them regulary around here. This was a SUN. Not a DOG. I am telling you, I saw this, it had no clouds in front of it. Plain as day. I am kicking my own arse for not having my phone with me to take a picture. It looked exactly like a normal sunset. but It was due NORTH. I know where the sun sets here everyday. I am not some dumbass that doesn't know which way is
N S W E, and am quite educated about the varying locations of the sun, during the change of seasons etc. I am outside every day, and I know that the sun does not set behind Petco, EVER. This was not a sundog. It was a sun. I swear on everything that is important to me.

Nick,you obviously did not read my post there. And you can try to debunk this all you want. I don't want to belive what I saw. But I saw it. And it is a very good explanation as to why the sky is covered up here most of the time now.

I make a plea to anyone that flies. That would be the opportunity to see what is going on up there. Look out, and be aware. Take pictures. I even asked someone, that evening. A stranger that was parked next to me. I asked "doesn't the sun normally set over there? (pointing to where I usually see it). He shrugged his shoulders and said "I have no idea". So, people don't care, or want to know.

and I don't need to ask an amateur astronomy anything. I am reporting what I saw. and I did not ask for someone to tell me that I did not see it. (eyes rolling).

[Nick Matkin]

and I don't need to ask an amateur astronomy anything. I am reporting what I saw. and I did not ask for someone to tell me that I did not see it. (eyes rolling).

OK, good. How far away do you think it was? I expect a number of astronomers in your area - amateur or professional - also saw it. I expect their websites and forums are buzzing with this new discovery.

Nick

[Sidney]

and I don't need to ask an amateur astronomy anything. I am reporting what I saw. and I did not ask for someone to tell me that I did not see it. (eyes rolling).

OK, good. How far away do you think it was? I expect a number of astronomers in your area - amateur or professional - also saw it. I expect their websites and forums are buzzing with this new discovery.

Nick

Like I said, it was HEAVILY clouded, but the sun dropped below the cloudbank at the very end of the day. It was at the horizon when I saw it, and was barely out of the clouds. Probably not very many people noticed. Just sayin, people are not paying attention to these things around here. The elites that are in charge of the chemtrail operation are privy to the schedule of when this things can be seen, and they spend a LOT of time and money spraying spraying creating fake clouds to hide this from the masses. It seems to me, everytime someone who is credible enough with evidence and comes forward, they disappear.
I understand where you stand on this issue Nick. And I took pictures of two suns last winter and posted them here. But I was even skeptical of what I saw then because there were some clouds that kept my mind open to the fact that what I saw could have been light refraction on clouds.
But this time, there was no mistaking what I saw.
We will have to respectfully agree to disagree. It really is hard to believe, until you see it with your own eyes. because of that, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

[sheme]

Lovely winter sun dog shots nick, I really enjoyed looking at them- thanks for putting them up , I will take some more "sun dog" shots this evening if the clouds stay away. Midsummer average temperature here today is about 20c, lets see if you can take some shots of sunset as well.

[Fairy Friend]

That's not a sundog. If anything it's a solar pillar or what was starting to be a solar pillar. And that I wonder, because you need no wind and stillness and I see that it looks like wind is in the picture (not just the plant bending but there looks like a front, off in the distance. I see a wall cloud). Usually you don't see a lot of clouds but some can be present. And the temperature is usually at dew point, Just as water vapor is starting to freeze, the beginning of snow. Sun usually on the horizon and humidity and temperature low. Check out solar pillar.
It's rare but the Sun seems to be putting out more energy than usual and the atmosphere seems to have a lot of moisture. So we're seeing this in more southern latitudes where this phenomenon is usually seen in the upper north.

I know you Sydney and been following your posts for a while and you don't jump the gun and every little glitch. personally I like being a little emotional and still having my critical eye. A personal choice. But not a lot of emotional hysteria, not so much, again, a personal choice. Mostly because it doesn't make me feel pretty. I was writing a book but I stop writing in 2008. maybe I'll be inspired again.

[Sidney]

That's not a sundog. If anything it's a solar pillar or what was starting to be a solar pillar. And that I wonder, because you need no wind and stillness and I see that it looks like wind is in the picture (not just the plant bending but there looks like a front, off in the distance. I see a wall cloud). Usually you don't see a lot of clouds but some can be present. And the temperature is usually at dew point, Just as water vapor is starting to freeze, the beginning of snow. Sun usually on the horizon and humidity and temperature low. Check out solar pillar.
It's rare but the Sun seems to be putting out more energy than usual and the atmosphere seems to have a lot of moisture. So we're seeing this in more southern latitudes where this phenomenon is usually seen in the upper north.

I know you Sydney and been following your posts for a while and you don't jump the gun and every little glitch. personally I like being a little emotional and still having my critical eye. A personal choice. But not a lot of emotional hysteria, not so much, again, a personal choice. Mostly because it doesn't make me feel pretty. I was writing a book but I stop writing in 2008. maybe I'll be inspired again.

Thank you Fairyfriend. I don't get hysterical about this stuff because I have seen much more terrifying things in my life than a unidentified celestial object in the sky. And for me, with logic intact, that is exactly what I saw. A celestial body that is not identified (openly anyway). I too, have seen a lot of Nibiru hysteria, and literally hundreds of videos on YT, saying nibiru or second sun, and 99 percent or more are sundogs, or lens flare. However, I have seen a few, that look identical to what I have seen in the past, and what I saw last week. A very slim few, with slews of debunking trolls slamming their comments.

Truthfully, I have hesitated to even report what I saw because I have no evidence, photographic or otherwise to back it up. But I have been around here a while, and I hope that some people know me well enough to trust my instincts. I have made mistakes in the past, and if I find I have made a mistake, I try to come forward and say, hey I messed up, I was wrong.

I humbly feel a responsibility to just come forward and tell what I saw, and if one person wakes up and starts paying attention to these things, and becomes more aware because of it, then I have not wasted my time or my intents. I have a child that will be a young adult soon. I am the last person that wants to believe that something terrible will come out of this.

If this thing is indeed Nibiru, which is on an orbit that will swing past and devastate the earth, well, there is not a damn thing I can do about it. But what if we simply have a binary sun that is going to be visible s few days a month for the rest of eternity, and is perfectly harmless, except for maybe extra UV problems and problems with the ozone. Maybe that is the purpose of chemtrails. And they are not telling us because they would rather keep people in fear, than tell us what is really happening. Hey, I am a sun worshipper. More tan, in half the time is how I see it. LOL
The thing is, we do NOT know what it is. Nasa even discovered Planet X 50 years ago, and at the time, they even said (paraphrasing) "well we dont have to worry for 50 years". Then later all media was hush about it.

I am not saying we are all going to die, or oh my, the sky is falling. I am saying, I saw a sunset, where it shouldn't set. That is what I saw. 5 days later, I saw a normal sunset, where I expected is should be setting, west/northwest this time of year.

[Sidney]

As seen in this video, the planetary orbits around the sun, and through the universe in general is a complex thing. Depending on the location and speed of a binary object, the object might only be seen by a very select location each day. I personally have no formal education with regards to this subject matter. I do my own research via internet and being outside with my vision intact, day and night. If we had coordinates of the object, and its orbital speed, distance from the sun, etc etc, then a computer model could be made, and someone who is trained for this sort of thing, skills in math and physics it could be determined exactly when and where the sightings would be.

But we don't have that information. So I feel powerless, except to report my own experiences here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9YTjAOFiOo

[Fairy Friend]

I Do believe you. I have followed your posts and I do think you have a critical eye and don't jump the gun. Although I know, no one is 100% perfect, if only we were right the first time, every time. But I don't want to dismiss things without first asking questions like what were the conditions that day. You even put up a previous post and I have taken my telescope out, with my sun filters to observe but I have not seen anything suspicious. I also was wondering if some of these could be coming from blasts off the Sun and could actually appear as though it was a small sun next to it because they are that big sometimes. I am wondering if that can happen.

I just realized I misspelled your name I'm sorry oops

[Fairy Friend]

I've never seen this baseline up so much on the x-ray flux, its like up a half a magnitude (a five fold increase) and running that high for awhile (a couple of days). Lots of unusual things going on.

[Sidney]

I have asked myself many many times. Why don't more people see these things, even amateur astronomers. And, maybe they are simply not looking. Truthfully, as of lately, I have not been looking for stuff, because I am sort of burned out on all of it. But it is a very simple thing to know where the sun goes down. And it is not that hard when you get to be upper middle aged, understanding the drifting from south to northerly, that the sunset differs from winder to summer. And I am stating this for those that might think my perception is lacking in understanding about our climate,seasons, perceptions etc. The last time I thought that I saw the sunset with the two suns, it was more like the above photo showing the tiny sun right above the sun. Only when I saw it, the sun has already set and it was just the tiny sun still visible, as it was still above the sun.
This time, totally different. I truthfully just don't know what to think. I kind of wish I hadn't even noticed it.

I remember a couple years ago, someone posted videos of the sunrise, in the wrong place. And there was all this scary rumors going around about a physical shift happening. This guy had a camera set up in his window sill, and it took pictures automatically every day. And then one day the sun rose several degrees different than the day before. it was visibly noticable. But all the talk was about a shift, and nobody was talking about a binary sun at that time. Maybe that is what his camera picked up as well. There were also lots of chemtrail cloud banks then too, so could have been covering the other sun so that there only appeared one sun. Just thinking out loud here.

[Wind]

I've never seen this baseline up so much on the x-ray flux, its like up a half a magnitude (a five fold increase) and running that high for awhile (a couple of days). Lots of unusual things going on.

Aches continue and I have also energy going around my head, feels like an headache. Though this really feels like a cold virus when it's affecting my muscles like this. I just checked the electron levels and my my what's going on there. I'm not sure what you mean by the X-ray flux? We've only seen minor C-class flares.

SolarHam:

"A large filament channel is currently transiting the southern hemisphere near center disk and should be monitored closely for a potential eruption. Attached image courtesy of Ron Cottrell who captured this photo yesterday from his location in Arizona. If the plasma filled channel should become unstable and collapse, it could lead to a coronal mass ejection. For now, we wait.

In other news, old region 2082, now in view off the northeast limb, was renumbered 2106 today. Old region 2085, now in view off the southeast limb, was renumbered 2107. According to NOAA there is a 25% chance for an isolated M-Class flare, with region 2104 being the most likely source."

http://oi57.tinypic.com/zk7r.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/121wnkp.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

I meant where you see that red line running, usually that runs a bit lower on the graph. And the blue line won't seem to settle down and flatline. It's like a little energy is putting it into the C flares zone. Although I double checked and it doesn't look that bad but you look about 3-4 days ago and it looks like it was running a bit lower.
And on the electron graph when the blue and the red lines drop, I think a lot of people feel it. However, when that yellow and purple lines start dropping also, I think a lot of people really feel That a lot. Hopefully, our earth facing side will stay settle down.

[Wind]

I meant where you see that red line running, usually that runs a bit lower on the graph. And the blue line won't seem to settle down and flatline. It's like a little energy is putting it into the C flares zone. Although I double checked and it doesn't look that bad but you look about 3-4 days ago and it looks like it was running a bit lower.

Oh I see, you meant that earlier the the red line used to be lower in the B-line. I almost think that it's measuring Sun's pulse, when it's flatline it's almost in coma. Now it's slightly active, but if the Sun was acting normally we would see constantly many M-flares and X-flares. Only thing we don't really want to see are CME's and plasma filament releases, even though they are visually mesmerizing. Only rarely I have to take painkillers during one week, how strange.

[Fairy Friend]

Me too, I very rarely take painkillers and I've had to take them as well. This whole year has not been my best year so far with pain. We've had a lot of weather systems rolling through where I'm at as well.

[Wind]

We just had minor C3.4 flare, normally I wouldn't even bother to mention it, but the sun might get a little active again.

[Wind]

Hear what Suspicious0bservers is saying here... We have a leviathan of a sunspot coming, possibly one of the greates ones during this cycle. We could see major flarers or quakes soon even though sun activity is low now.

oHh85COHTeY

[Nick Matkin]

I have asked myself many many times. Why don't more people see these things, even amateur astronomers. And, maybe they are simply not looking. Truthfully, as of lately, I have not been looking for stuff, because I am sort of burned out on all of it. But it is a very simple thing to know where the sun goes down. And it is not that hard when you get to be upper middle aged, understanding the drifting from south to northerly, that the sunset differs from winder to summer. And I am stating this for those that might think my perception is lacking in understanding about our climate,seasons, perceptions etc. The last time I thought that I saw the sunset with the two suns, it was more like the above photo showing the tiny sun right above the sun. Only when I saw it, the sun has already set and it was just the tiny sun still visible, as it was still above the sun.
This time, totally different. I truthfully just don't know what to think. I kind of wish I hadn't even noticed it.

I remember a couple years ago, someone posted videos of the sunrise, in the wrong place. And there was all this scary rumors going around about a physical shift happening. This guy had a camera set up in his window sill, and it took pictures automatically every day. And then one day the sun rose several degrees different than the day before. it was visibly noticable. But all the talk was about a shift, and nobody was talking about a binary sun at that time. Maybe that is what his camera picked up as well. There were also lots of chemtrail cloud banks then too, so could have been covering the other sun so that there only appeared one sun. Just thinking out loud here.

OK Sidney, you saw what you saw. Like I said, I wasn't there with you.

But if there were/are two suns, or the earth's axis has shifted and sunrise/set changed location, it wouldn't be just observed locally, the whole world would notice! It's not just the US that has astronomers, there are thousands all over the world. Why haven't they noticed these things?

An-Earth axis tilt would affect shipping and aircraft navigation. Sunrise/sunset times would be wrong, tide tables would be wrong.

If there were two suns at any time pilots (always above the clouds) would notice. If they were forced by some conspiracy to keep quiet, what about the thousands of passengers?

The list of effects goes on and on. No matter how big a grip one suspects that 'The Powers That Be' have on the media, such stuff couldn't be kept quite.

As someone with an engineering background, I reckon I have a reasonable idea about how stuff works, including basic astronomy, but I admit to being curious as to how (to me) such curious perceptions arise in an educated, western population.

It's been said before on PA, we don't need to rely on government agencies to filter information about the Earth and space; there are tens of thousands of well-equipped amateur scientists across the globe with sensitive equipment who monitor the Earth and sun's rotation, the Earth's magnetic field, ionosphere, troposphere, geological movement, just about everything. Any one of these amateurs would love to be the first to report any significant (or insignificant) Earth changes or new astronomical effects/objects.

I suspect others with a similar mindset to me never engage in these threads, they don't see a point, but I'm very curious about the perceptions and beliefs of others and why they have them.

Nick

[Hervé]

[...]

... please find an independent astronomer to explain where it is and why it has no gravitational effects.

Thanks.

Nick

Check this website (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml) <---

[Nick Matkin]

Thanks Amzer Zo. I've heard of that possibility, but the talk here is of a very visible 'second sun'. The distant companion theory may explain the very subtle precession of the equinoxes (not something your average person is going to notice), but doesn't explain a second sun suddenly becoming visible in just one place and not globally, or the claimed shift in the earth's axis making the sun set locally in the 'wrong' place.

Nick

[Hervé]

I have asked myself many many times. Why don't more people see these things, even amateur astronomers. And, maybe they are simply not looking.

[...]

Well, aside from weird atmospheric lensing conditions, there may be a solution to this which may be as fantastic as a second sun : a switch of realities/densities/dimensions...

Astronomers, whether accredited or amateurs, have instruments and observational skills for this physical reality that we take for granted and makes up for the norm of reference. No doubt, that is a definite reality!

Then, there are these "other" realities... whether these reside in different densities/dimensions or within the minds of the observers, as in the world created by a stage hypnotist within the mind of the hypnoptized subject. The latter, of course, begs the question of who is actually hypnotized into seeing -- or being oblivious to -- which reality :)

So, that gives you a few rabbit holes to follow... alternate earth, alternate sun, alternate density/dimension, screen memories, etc...

[Sidney]

For the record i dont know what ro call this thing. It was much smaller than the sun so it could be a body near the sun that is reflecting light from the sun. And if there is somethi.g that is orbiting very close around the sun then no it would not be visible everywhere at any given time.. and much of the world is coovered in chemical cloud banks most of the time. I have no good explanatiion. But i can tell you most days the sunrise and sunset cannot be seen because of the chemtrails that are laid out. I feel i have the answer as to why now. Like i said until you see it it is difficult to believe.something like this could be covered up. But indeed they are doing a pretty good job of it. I am not the first person to have a sighting. And i am certain i am not the last. I dont blame your skepticism. I really dont. Japanese governments are prosecuting ppl for talking about fukushima radiation us governments hide the ufo data we are lied to every single day by the heirarchies of the world. The vatican has the most powerful telescopes in the world. They certainly know what this thing is but they are very busy worshipping the devil and raping children. Why would they share any of their data of whats going on in the sky. I have no answers.
Interessting though the alternate dimension idea though. I will ponder that over coffee. There might be something to that one.

[Sidney]

Can this somehow be related???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCL8ZpXM9E#t=400

[Wind]

I don't suggest to follow MrMaverickstar nor BPEarthwatch, Dahboo etc, because they are preachers of doom... When there is none. But we should focus on this.

KZcyNzeHmbE

[Hervé]

Can this somehow be related???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCL8ZpXM9E#t=400

See this thread: Two north and two south magnetic poles (vid) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72477-Two-north-and-two-south-magnetic-poles--vid-)

[Hervé]

[...]... It was much smaller than the sun so it could be a body near the sun that is reflecting light from the sun.

[...]

Did you check with one of those stellarium/planetarium programs if it could have been a known planetary body in that position at sunset for your area at that time and date?

[Nick Matkin]

Interesting video about the magnetic poles. But they are not the same as the geographic north and south poles. The north and south magnetic poles always wander, but have done more so in the past few years than we're used to.

But please folks, don't think magnetic and geographic poles are the same. No matter where the magnetic poles end up, the Earth's rotation about the geographic poles remains the same. And if you don't believe me look it up.

(Sorry if thread readers know all this, but so often one sees the two muddled up!)

Nick

[Sidney]

Interesting video about the magnetic poles. But they are not the same as the geographic north and south poles. The north and south magnetic poles always wander, but have done more so in the past few years than we're used to.

But please folks, don't think magnetic and geographic poles are the same. No matter where the magnetic poles end up, the Earth's rotation about the geographic poles remains the same. And if you don't believe me look it up.

(Sorry if thread readers know all this, but so often one sees the two muddled up!)

Nick

My line of thinking was more on the lines of the suns relationship to the magnetic field. I know there was no geographic pole shift, I don't even think there was a magnetic pole shift, but it moves all the time. Still just trying to wrap my head around what I saw. If we had a geographic pole shift, we would not be having this conversation. lol

But the sun does have an affect on the magnetic field of the earth. There is just a LOT I do not know personally. There is a LOT scientists don't know. And there is a LOT they do know, that they don't tell us.

[Sidney]

[...]... It was much smaller than the sun so it could be a body near the sun that is reflecting light from the sun.

[...]

Did you check with one of those stellarium/planetarium programs if it could have been a known planetary body in that position at sunset for your area at that time and date?

I actually called the university astronomy dept. They didn't have any ideas either. He talked a LOT about latitude and declination and I felt like I was listening to a foreign language. But he did say, it depends where on earth you are standing. The latitude is different here than it is 150 miles from here. Or something like that. Like I said, this is not my area of expertise. All I know is I saw something that should not have been where it was. Or at all. In laymans terms, if what I saw was the sun, then it should have been about 4 feet to the left. Right where it is now.

I find it hard to imagine that I randomly just saw into another dimension. But who knows, a lot of weird things have happened to me in my life. So who the heck knows at this point.

[Hervé]

[...]

Did you check with one of those stellarium/planetarium programs if it could have been a known planetary body in that position at sunset for your area at that time and date?

I actually called the university astronomy dept. They didn't have any ideas either. He talked a LOT about ...

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This program may be of some help: http://www.stellarium.org/

The tool/help bars are upper right or lower left corners and on auto-hide like Windows task bars, so you would have to get the mouse pointer in that area to get them to show up... provided you installed the program. Then one can chose the area one lives in -- or near -- and check the horizon for that area for a chosen date and time and check which celestial bodies were around...

[Fairy Friend]

Sidney, I am going to mention another theory, especially since this is project Avalon, that it could have been a UFO and it may be shifting in and out of dimensions, not you. Or you may be able to see this better than others. UFO sightings are off the chart. And more and more people are awake to see.

There are many binary star systems out there, so for people to question why not ours? is perfectly legitimate to me. Personally, I think if there were two suns & all the ways we have tried to measure things and probes we have sent out there I'm thinking we would have noticed too. And even Ancient text.

Although I just feel I have to share, that your video on the Sun moving through the solar system with the planets is not correct. Although beautiful, the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving and the solar system is moving. So it would look more like a top sitting & spinning on the side of another top or a spiral graph picture which would be equally beautiful in my mind. Different kind of spiral. I don't know if anyone can relate to this spiralgraph art. Someone should do that and put that visual up. Most people don't know that our solar system doesn't all have stars in the spiral either, there are much much older stars that are almost in a cloud formation around the spiral. The stars in the spiral are younger. Our sun is quite young for a star in the spiral. Nor are the planet's orbits circles but ellipsis. The Sun is not truly in the center but is at an apex point of an ellipse.

So you saw something smaller than the Sun and it looked like a sun but not in the place where the Sun should be. So what was it?

[Fairy Friend]

I thought I found the queasy feeling as though we were going to have something happen, however I don't see much on the charts yet.

[Wind]

I just started to see the red & blue cosmic ray flashes with my left eye, is anyone else seeing that? Then I checked once again and saw the anomalous readings.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/rivwhv.jpg

Cosmic ray visual phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray_visual_phenomena)

"Cosmic ray visual phenomena, also referred to as phosphenes or "light flashes", are spontaneous flashes of light visually perceived by astronauts outside the magnetosphere of the Earth, such as during the Apollo program. Researchers believe that cosmic rays are responsible for these flashes of light, though the exact mechanism is unknown. Hypotheses include one or all of: Cherenkov radiation created as the cosmic ray particles pass through the vitreous humor of the astronauts' eyes, direct interaction with the optic nerve, or direct interaction with visual centres in the brain.

Astronauts almost always reported that the flashes were white, with one exception in which the astronaut observed "blue with a white cast, like a blue diamond." There were a few different types of flashes: "spots" and "stars" were observed 66% of the time, "streaks" were observed 25% of the time, and "clouds" were observed 8% of the time. Once their eyes became adapted to the dark, Apollo astronauts reported seeing this phenomenon once every 2.9 minutes on average. They also reported that they observed the phenomenon more frequently during the transit to the Moon than during the return transit to Earth.

During the Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 transits, astronauts conducted the ALFMED Experiment where an astronaut wore a helmet designed to capture the tracks of cosmic ray particles to determine if they coincided with the visual observation. Examination of the results showed that two of fifteen tracks coincided with observation of the flashes. These results in combination with considerations for geometry and Monte Carlo estimations led researchers to conclude that the visual phenomenon were indeed caused by cosmic rays.

More recently, the SilEye/Alteino and ALTEA projects have investigated the phenomenon aboard the International Space Station, using helmets similar in nature to those in the ALFMED experiment."

[Hervé]

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There are many binary star systems out there, so for people to question why not ours? is perfectly legitimate to me. Personally, I think if there were two suns & all the ways we have tried to measure things and probes we have sent out there I'm thinking we would have noticed too. And even Ancient text.

Although I just feel I have to share, that your video on the Sun moving through the solar system with the planets is not correct. Although beautiful, the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving and the solar system is moving.

[...]

Neither, nor... see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650) <---

[Fairy Friend]

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There are many binary star systems out there, so for people to question why not ours? is perfectly legitimate to me. Personally, I think if there were two suns & all the ways we have tried to measure things and probes we have sent out there I'm thinking we would have noticed too. And even Ancient text.

Although I just feel I have to share, that your video on the Sun moving through the solar system with the planets is not correct. Although beautiful, the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving and the solar system is moving.

[...]

Neither, nor... see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650) <---

Excuse me but the says exactly what I said, we are orbiting in the same orbital plane. And have been and will be for 30 million more years. This doesn't refute it at all. I said nothing about alignment To galactic center.

[Fairy Friend]

Amzer Zo,
It looks like it is more or less yes or no after all, it is not a 90 degree angle it is more like a 60 degree angle. So we're cruising at a slant. So the top at the edge of the top is slanted more.

[Fairy Friend]

There was some minor activity nothing as huge as I was feeling but I still feel like something's coming. The electrons are diving again. Lot's of weather here again.

[Hervé]

[...]

There are many binary star systems out there, so for people to question why not ours? is perfectly legitimate to me. Personally, I think if there were two suns & all the ways we have tried to measure things and probes we have sent out there I'm thinking we would have noticed too. And even Ancient text.

Although I just feel I have to share, that your video on the Sun moving through the solar system with the planets is not correct. Although beautiful, the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving and the solar system is moving.

[...]

Neither, nor... see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57644-Nemesis-Tyche-Nibiru-Planet-X-Brown-Dwarf-Binary-System-Myths-Realities&p=656650&viewfull=1#post656650) <---

Excuse me but the says exactly what I said, we are orbiting in the same orbital plane. And have been and will be for 30 million more years. This doesn't refute it at all. I said nothing about alignment To galactic center.


Although beautiful, the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving and the solar system is moving. I am sorry, but I took the above to mean that the planets' orbital plane is co-planar with the sun orbital plane around the galaxy [the planets don't orbit at a 90 degree angle like that as the Sun moves, they orbit in the same plane as the sun is moving] (called "heliocentric" by DJ Sadhu which is correct for the motion but incorrect for the respective trajectories) whereas the video posted by Sydney pictures the orbital plane of the solar system's planets as perpendicular to the sun's trajectory around the galaxy and therefore perpendicular to the sun's orbital plane and the galactic plane (called "Helical" in DJ Sadhu's video which is incorrect for both motion and trajectories):


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In any case, it's neither-nor since the trajectory of the solar system around the galactic center is an elliptical spiral.

As I tried to explain in that post, the planets do ORBIT around the sun ("heliocentric" motion) as in pinned in a fixed system around the sun; and do not fall off in a sun trail.

What one needs to distinguish is the difference between "motion" and "trajectory" with respect to a frame of reference and the same "motion" and "trajectory" with respect to another frame of reference. Hence, more or less inclined elliptical orbits of planets pinned to the sun as frame of reference (heliocentric system) become elliptical spirals centered around the sun's elliptical spiral trajectory on its way around the galactic center.

In the above video, the sun is spiraling (circular spiral) around the galactic center but doesn't explain why. However, when one considers a binary system; then, a spiraling trajectory is to be expected but elliptical rather than circular and with the binary system's orbital plane being neither perpendicular to, nor co-planar with, the galactic plane as well as the solar system ecliptic plane being neither co-planar with, nor perpendicular to, the binary system orbital plane.

Hope this makes it clearer?

PS/Edit: I should have checked the thread before spending all that time getting the above post as comprehensible as possible without losing accuracy... :(

[Roisin]

Hope this makes it clearer?

Could you be more specific?

[Fairy Friend]

Hope this makes it clearer?

Could you be more specific?

We're cruising at a 60 degree angle. Equally beautiful visuals.

[Roisin]

There was some minor activity nothing as huge as I was feeling but I still feel like something's coming. The electrons are diving again. Lot's of weather here again.

Since you're so good at predicting EQ's and in other "psychic" things too, you should think about venturing into area's that could turn out to be financially lucrative for you -- using those same talents. At least there's a potential for more of a return for your efforts -- and let's face it, it's no fun finding out that ones EQ prediction that came true ended up to be an EQ that resulted in the loss of many lives.

[Fairy Friend]

There was some minor activity nothing as huge as I was feeling but I still feel like something's coming. The electrons are diving again. Lot's of weather here again.

Since you're so good at predicting EQ's and in other "psychic" things too, you should think about venturing into area's that could turn out to be financially lucrative for you -- using those same talents. At least there's a potential for more of a return for your efforts -- and let's face it, it's no fun finding out that ones EQ prediction that came true ended up to be an EQ that resulted in the loss of many lives.

It's true I have actually predicted earthquakes and been blamed for them, same with hurricanes. But this is who I am and I had a psychic teacher (a Millionaire) who said never charge for this. But I tried one year and I didn't like it, so that shoe didn't fit.
Well, as for lucrative ventures making money,
I am from a family of psychic Geniuses my parents were educated in business. I have not yet made it to Las Vegas to try gambling yet.

[Nick Matkin]

I just started to see the red & blue cosmic ray flashes with my left eye, is anyone else seeing that?


Cosmic ray visual phenomena, also referred to as phosphenes or "light flashes", are spontaneous flashes of light visually perceived by astronauts outside the magnetosphere of the Earth...

It is very, very unusual to get these flashes at the earth's surface. I have experienced only one. So if you're not getting them equally in both eyes, and you're not an astronaut, sounds like you may be developing a detached retina:


What are the symptoms of retinal detachment?

Possible symptoms include:

Flashing lights. Initially, you may notice flashing lights in your vision. This is noticed in 6 out of 10 people with a RD and is most obvious in dim lighting and in your peripheral or side vision. (What are the symptoms of retinal detachment? Possible symptoms include: Flashing lights. Initially, you may notice flashing lights in your vision. This is noticed in 6 out of 10 people with a RD and is most obvious in dim lighting and in your peripheral or side vision.)

Better get it checked out if I were you.

Nick

[sheme]

Just a thought could the Nikon picture of the sunset that I took with the apparent extra orb on top be because the infra-red has been captured- this would explain why this is not visible with the naked eye?

[Nick Matkin]

Just a thought could the Nikon picture of the sunset that I took with the apparent extra orb on top be because the infra-red has been captured- this would explain why this is not visible with the naked eye?

Maybe, but you're not the only one taking images of the sky with infra-red equipment.

Nick

[Fairy Friend]

Just a thought could the Nikon picture of the sunset that I took with the apparent extra orb on top be because the infra-red has been captured- this would explain why this is not visible with the naked eye?

We have been cloudy here but I have been trying to look with my sisters trustee telescope which has two solar Sun filters (originally to help observe eclipses). I am trying not to look at sunset or when the Sun is low to rule out any other weather phenomena that tends to show up at sunrise and sunset like solar pillars and sun dogs. Once you put a camera directly pointed at the Sun, even high in the sky, you can't rule out lens flares from the camera because the lights going right directly at it. So I'm trying to rule that out with a telescope.

I have a friend with an IR camera I will ask her to take a couple of photos at sunset or sunrise. She's pretty busy but I will text her.I gave her the camera so she owes me but I think that the Sun is going to blow it away, it's meant for picking up subtle energy. Photography in the dark.

[MorningSong]

Did noone notice the M1.4 flare from sunspot 2106 at 11:23UTC today?

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events_archive/events_summary/2014/07/01/gev_20140701_1105/gev_20140701_1105.png

News from spaceweather.com:


BROODING GIANT: Big sunspot AR2104, which emerged over the weekend, has developed a 'beta-gamma-delta' magnetic field that harbors energy for X-class solar flares. So far, however, the sunspot has been relatively quiet, producing no more than a few minor C-flares. Sergio Castillo photographed the brooding giant on June 30th from his backyard observatory in Inglewood, CA:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/01jul14/giant_strip.jpg

Castillo used a solar telescope capped with a "Calcium-K" filter tuned to 3933 Å, a wavelength that reveals the bright magnetic froth around active sunspots. "The magnetic froth is amazingly visible around AR2104," says Castillo. "I truly hope this active region brings fireworks just in time for the 4th of July."

He might get his wish. NOAA forecasters estimate a growing 40% chance of M-class flares and a 5% chance of X-flares during the next 24 hours. The odds of geoeffective eruptions will increase even more in the days ahead as the sunspot turns toward Earth.

[Fairy Friend]

Strange you put this up right now. I thought we were going to have another little pop but I don't see anything impressive yet. But some of the images went pixely and that happens sometimes before a flare or eruption.
Yeah some fireworks coming our way, I think they're right.

[Nick Matkin]

No solar-induced fadeouts on 10 MHz or above observed today over the Atlantic.

Nick

[Wind]

It is very, very unusual to get these flashes at the earth's surface. I have experienced only one. So if you're not getting them equally in both eyes, and you're not an astronaut, sounds like you may be developing a detached retina.

Nick, I am mildly amused when I'm reading this and I know that you're not joking, thanks for the concern. I am not that old and it might be hard for you to believe it, but I know what I am seeing. When those cosmic ray readings get out of whack, I know that before checking the readings because I see red & blue cosmic ray flashes only with my left eye. My eyes are just fine.

This has been happening for over an year now, after the cosmic ray readings started to get crazy. Earth's magnetic field is fading and it's letting everything get through it every once in a while. You know, it's not a surprising thing to me since I can also see auras believe it or not. I see aura's around everything, but I'm only talking about the white transparent energetic silhouettes of auras, not individual colors. I guess I just can see different wavelengths of light (http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/EDDOCS/Wavelengths_for_Colors.html) and not all can see them.

[Fairy Friend]

When you showed this chart I wasn't surprised you said that. There was another time where I saw blue flashes and the chart looked similar. Not usual energy. Wind knows stuff.

My eyes were checked several months ago and I am fine. But my mom has a detached retina so I know what you're talking about they have Light flashes also.

[Wind]

Something is popping and footage is late, as usual. Also a shot of the earlier M1.4 flare, magnificent.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/28bzcc9.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2vv7uo5.jpg

[Sidney]

I can say I one of the worst cases of anxiety today that I have had in a while. Not really an anxiety attack, just a sudden onset of being very tense. Lasted about 6 hours. Its got to be this activity. Thanks for the updates. !!!

[Wind]

M-class flares incoming real soon, these big delta-class sunspots are approaching and they possess some serious power. They will be facing Earth in a matter of two days.

Solar Flare Risk
M-Class: 50%
X-Class: 05%

Sunspot 2104 (AR12104) Beta-Gamma-Delta

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2ywtxc5.jpghttp://oi60.tinypic.com/34rca5s.jpg

Sunspot 2107 (AR12107) Beta-Delta

http://oi57.tinypic.com/okzpsg.jpghttp://oi57.tinypic.com/9hmgip.jpg

The magnetic classification of sunspots (http://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/help/the-magnetic-classification-of-sunspots)

"More than half of the observed sunspot groups are Alpha and Beta classed sunspot groups, the bigger sunspots mostly get Beta, Beta-Gamma or Beta-Gamma-Delta. It is known that delta sunspots can be very active and produce the most intense solar flares."

[Fairy Friend]

I kinda have that queasy feeling again, so I'm expecting another CME but nothing huge and hopefully not so long lasting. Overall, I don't feel too bad. Odds aren't bad for any kind of a pop so to speak.

[Fairy Friend]

I think we had already the beginning of a minor amount of energy but I still feel like something's coming. My teeth are feeling it, so I was going with a minor m-class flare. But I also feel like the ground is shifting underneath my feet. I usually think earth quakes but the earthquake number its been slowly dropping back to normal. Getting that nervous anxious feeling as well.

It's been raining here so I have not yet had a chance to observe the Sun. I am also curious, the Sun has been very bright on top and dark on the bottom and I was wondering if that would show up. We could use a sunny day here it's quite muddy.

[Sidney]

Yesterday after my anxiety bout, I was so overcome with lethargy I wanted to cry. This morning I had a very odd feeling of weakness and over all feeling of gravitational change somehow. I feel very dehydrated too, so I know I need to drink more water, thats also a sign for me that energies are up.

[Fairy Friend]

Thanks for reminding me to drink water. I forget I get wrapped up in things and I too have been very lethargic.

[Delight]

I just started to see the red & blue cosmic ray flashes with my left eye, is anyone else seeing that?


Cosmic ray visual phenomena, also referred to as phosphenes or "light flashes", are spontaneous flashes of light visually perceived by astronauts outside the magnetosphere of the Earth...

It is very, very unusual to get these flashes at the earth's surface. I have experienced only one. So if you're not getting them equally in both eyes, and you're not an astronaut, sounds like you may be developing a detached retina:


What are the symptoms of retinal detachment?

Possible symptoms include:

Flashing lights. Initially, you may notice flashing lights in your vision. This is noticed in 6 out of 10 people with a RD and is most obvious in dim lighting and in your peripheral or side vision. (What are the symptoms of retinal detachment? Possible symptoms include: Flashing lights. Initially, you may notice flashing lights in your vision. This is noticed in 6 out of 10 people with a RD and is most obvious in dim lighting and in your peripheral or side vision.)

Better get it checked out if I were you.

Nick

I too see blue flashes and occasionally red flashes with both eyes, centrally and peripherally in larger and smaller flashes. They are usually very brief and vary in distance from me. I also see other kinds of light in the sky (not lightning or heat lightning...see that too) and near the ground. In addition I see the outline of the energy field of trees and other live creatures (no colors). Perhaps you suggest a good caution about retinal detachment but I do not think anything is wrong with my eyes. IMO people who see this like are having enhanced visual acuity.

In the past I have wondered what these different light configurations mean?

[Wind]

Glad to know that there are others like me. :)

Just a moment ago I started to quiver, became more lethargic and I noticed that the electrons are going down... Loud ringing in the right ear too. I must be really sensitive to the fluctuations. It's good to drink water.

Edit: Interesting to see that as soon as the electron levels started to return normal levels the same happened to my tiredness. I was just totally knocked out earlier.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2vkktgn.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2ue5q1g.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

I thought we were going to get a small m-class Flare and that did not pan out. I am feeling waves of things but overall I'm not feeling too bad.

I did get a chance to observe the Sun with my telescope and I don't see anything unusual. Its high in the sky right now. Nor do I see any difference between the top and the bottom. the last LASCO imagery shows a huge difference between the brightness of the top and the bottom and that did not show up either.

[Wind]

The Sun has been absolutely quiet lately, unless it decides to unleash a monster flare out of the blue, which I highly doubt. The weather events in the near future will be interesting and very testing. Let's hope for a shift in the collective human consciousness, it can't happen soon enough!

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From the comments section of this video:

Averaging around 90 sunspot monthly during solar max is pitiful and resembles another period that had around same on average was the Dalton Minimum and maunder minimum leading into the drop. It was a period of low solar activity lasting decades.

Like the Maunder Minimum and Spörer Minimum, the Dalton Minimum coincided with a period of lower-than-average global temperatures. During that period, there was a variation of temperature of about 1°C

Solar scientists Ken McCracken, Juerg Beer, Friedhelm Steinhilber and Jose Abreu studied the solar minimums over the last 9300 years. Based on measurements of beryllium and carbon isotopes as indicators for the intensity of cosmic rays, which are modulated by solar activity, the scientists arrived at the result that the minimum of 2007 to 2009 had similar characteristics as the minimums occurring during the time of the Dalton Minimums of 1780 to 1820. They discovered a 208-year periodicity (Suess-de Vries) of a grand solar minimum in the past. Therefore they anticipate in the near future the events of a Dalton Minimum - See more at:

While The Year Without a Summer, in 1816, occurred during the Dalton Minimum, the prime reason for that year's cool temperatures was the highly explosive eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia, which was one of the two largest eruptions in the past 2000 years.

Because the sun is Earth's greatest source of energy and is the driving force behind its atmospheric circulation, any variation in solar output will influence the weather. Scientists have observed that the number of sunspots on the surface of the sun has been determined to correspond to solar output variability. More sunspots correspond to a higher solar energy output while fewer sunspots correspond to a lower solar output. A record of sunspot numbers has been recorded through time by various indicators including naked eye observations, auroral reports, and C14 isotope concentrations in tree rings (Schaefer, 1977.) Fig. 8 shows that during the MWP there was a high number of sunspots referred to as the Medieval Maximum, while during the LIA there were two periods of very low sunspot numbers called the Spörer Minimum and Maunder Minimum. Although a direct link has not yet been established between sunspot variability and climate change, the data is highly suggestive.

Solar activity, as indicated by sunspots, radio noise and geomagnetic indices, plays a significant but by no means exclusive role in the triggering of earthquakes. Maximum quake frequency occurs at times of moderately high and fluctuating solar activity. Terrestrial solar flare effects which are the actual coupling mechanisms which trigger quakes appear to be either abrupt accelerations in the earth’s angular velocity or surges of telluric currents in the earth’s crust. The graphs presented in this paper permit probabilistic forecasting of earthquakes, and when used in conjunction with local indicators may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction.

It has been found that:

(1) Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity. Generally, the earthquake activities are relatively less during the peak value years of solar activity, some say, around the period when magnetic polarity in the solar polar regions is reversed.

(2) The earthquake frequency in the minimum period of solar activity is closely related to the maximum annual means of sunspot numbers, the maximum annual means of solar 10.7 cm radio flux and solar proton events of a whole solar cycle, and the relation between earthquake and solar proton events is closer than others.

Mitch Battros theorized in 1998 that large solar flares affect Earth’s magnetic field, which in turn shifts the oceanic and atmospheric currents, which can cause earthquakes and extreme weather. As Battros summarizes his formula:

Sunspots => Solar Flares (charged particles) => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather [including earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes or other extreme natural events]


Spacequakes Rumble Near Earth

A review of historical records was performed for 350 years of global volcanic activity (1650-2009) and seismic (earthquake) activity for the past 300 years (1700 to 2009) within the continental United States and then compared to the Sun’s record of sunspots as a measure of solar activity.

According to this study, there exists a strong correlation between solar activity and the Earth’s largest seismic and volcanic events."

www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/possible_causes.html

link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11589-998-0096-5

www.solarrainbook.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?page=Solar_Rain_Endorsements01.htm

tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/john-l-casey-the-solar-seismic-connection/

science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/27jul_spacequakes/

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0012821X67900714

 notrickszone.com/2013/11/11/german-scientists-solar-cycle-24-points-to-dalton-or-maunder-like-minimum-boding-ill-for-a-climate-cooling/#sthash.3Bwpxn6D.dpuf

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[Fairy Friend]

I do have to express some concern about flashes in the eyes that we're seeing. Some believe these are hitting the rods and cones in the eyes and sending a nerve signal to the brain that it's a flash of light. It may be actual damage is occurring to the eye.

My thought is it depends on if its being hit by a stream of high-energy particles or simply a wavelength of light that's just slightly different than the normal spectrum.

I'm under the impression people with green eyes have more light sensitivity in the regular sunlight but can see better in the twilight hours. Do you guys have green eyes? And blue is the next sensitivity compared to brown eyes which my eyes are brown.

Which I don't see red flashes, I've only seen blue and occasionally white and I can sense energy around people but I rarely see colors in auras. Some people just seem brighter to me or its extended out more, and others not so much.

I've only noticed this a couple times this last year and they were a cluster of Flashes. And this was before bed with my eyes closed. Otherwise I might not have noticed. I had a dot in one of my eyes for a brief period of time which I think was helped by taking high doses of vitamin C. I'm told there that it helps with clearing up floaters in the eyes which I have at my age.I'm told it takes a while.

[Wind]

I have blue eyes. I see white and black orbs quite often and I know those are conscious life forms (no doubt about it), but of course I can't prove that nor that I have to need for it. The cosmic rays are red and blue and they happen very rarely, only when the readings go out of whack. I don't know why or how it's happening, but I checked it several times and it only happens when those cosmic rays go wild. I'm not concerned about about my eyes, but I am concerned about other things... Like the coming weather extremes.

[Fairy Friend]

Weather does seem to be the big focus now. We do live an exciting times and I liked suspicious observers also. Dutchsinse...a few good ones out there.

[MorningSong]

Update from spaceweather.com:


INCREASING CHANCE OF FLARES: NOAA forecasters have boosted the odds of an M-class solar flare today to 60%. There are two sunspots capable of producing such flares, AR2104 and AR2107, and both are turning toward Earth.


MORE SUNSPOTS: The sunspot number, already high, ticked upward again today with the arrival of another large active region over the sun's eastern limb. Click to play a 24-hour movie from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory--and keep an eye on "AR2109":

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/03jul14/anotherone_strip2.gif

The explosive potential of this new sunspot is unknown. It will come into sharper focus later today and tomorrow as the region turns more directly toward Earth, revealing whether or not AR2109 has the kind of unstable magnetic field that leads to strong flares. For now, solar activty remains low despite the increasing sunspot count.

[Fairy Friend]

There was a very small pop a little bit ago but it seems very very quiet on the Sun. It is the fourth of July so fireworks are in order. I am still pondering the thought that Earth kills sunspots. Wow. Unfortunately, my grandson had me up until 5 o'clock in the morning and my eyes are not wide open today.

[Fairy Friend]

We are missing data again.

[Wind]

There was a very small pop a little bit ago but it seems very very quiet on the Sun. It is the fourth of July so fireworks are in order. I am still pondering the thought that Earth kills sunspots. Wow. Unfortunately, my grandson had me up until 5 o'clock in the morning and my eyes are not wide open today.

Yes, you if you watched the Suspicious0bservers video, in the 1600's the Maunder couple did observed how Earth indeed did "kill" the sunspots. It is a fascinating observation and it's implications could be huge. I don't know why they have been deleting the cosmic ray data again, but I have not seen anything with my eyes. Look how weak the Sun has been even though the sunspots have been holding a huge power. Earth has an detrimental effect on them.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/24qll51.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

[Wind]

The flaring has started after a deep phase of silence! M6.5, quite close to an X-class flare. There could be more flares soon.

Solarham:

"Expanding region 2113 located in the northeast quadrant just produced an M6.5 solar flare at 16:20 UTC Tuesday. The event was associated with a Type IV radio emission. Additional imagery by SDO suggests a large quantity of plasma was flung into space, but is likely directed away from our planet. More updates to follow once coronagraph imagery becomes available. Click HERE (http://solarham.net/data/events/jul8_2014_m6.5/index.htm) to access the M6.5 Solar Flare event Log."

Solar Flare Risk
M-Class: 70%
X-Class: 15%

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[Wind]

This cosmic ray data chart was empty earlier today and during the last week. They are doing horribly poor job at editing and hiding the data, at least try not to insult our intelligence with such a sloppy job. Even a baby could understand what they are doing, same thing with horribly. I get highly annoyed when the truth is being hidden.

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[Wind]

Now the wild cosmic ray readings are showing again. Sometimes those balls have been so large that they have filled the whole graph, I mean incredibly massive readings.

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[Fairy Friend]

I had a blue flash in my eye with this one. And my eyes were open.

[Wind]

I had a blue flash in my eye with this one. And my eyes were open.

Haven't seen any of those yet, impossible not to notice them.

[Sidney]

I have been having odd flashes of light. I wonder if it is similar to what you guys are experiencing. What I see is white, and resembles a small "ball" of light passing by my eyes. SOmetimes it just looks like a small line, like a straight line about an inch long passing the lower edge of my vision. Very hard to describe. I don't know if it is related, because I haven't paid that much attention. Has been going on for about 6 months .

[Wind]

Yeah, it's like a flashing orb with blue and red colour. I see "normal" orbs too, but it's not the same thing, they're not flashing. The same thing applies all of to these things, I see them with my peripheral vision. Aura's too. It has something to do with the fact how the retina registers different wavelengths of light.

[Sidney]

I can see orbs too, with the naked eye. No one else in my family can except for my one of my nieces . When they were staying with me at my former haunted house, her and I were the only ones that could see them. Although at my current house, I have only seen them with the aid of the camera.

[Fairy Friend]

My goodness another little pop.

[Wind]

Electrons started to take a dive, let's see if it's only temporal.

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[MorningSong]

News from spaceweather.com:


SOLAR FLARE ERUPTS FROM UNEXPECTED SOURCE: Yesterday, July 8th, Earth-orbiting satellites detected a strong M6-class solar flare. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the extreme ultraviolet flash:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/08jul14/m6_strip.jpg

X-ray and UV radiation from the flare sent waves of ionization coursing through Earth's upper atmosphere. This briefly disturbed the propagation of shortwave radio transmissions around the dayside of our planet, especially over Europe and North America. Conditions have since returned to normal.

The flare came as little surprise. A phalanx of large sunspots is crossing the solar disk, and forecasters have been predicting an explosion for more than a week. However, the source of the flare was unexpected. It came from a minor and seemingly harmless sunspot named AR2113. Appearances notwithstanding, AR2113 has a 'beta-gamma' magnetic field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares.

With this flare, AR2113 joins two other sunspots capable of potent activity: AR2108 and AR2109. NOAA forecasters estimate a 75% chance of M-flares and a 20% chance of X-flares on July 9th.

Here are where the 2 M-flares originated from, sunspot 2113:

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events_archive/events_summary/2014/07/08/gev_20140708_1606/gev_20140708_1606.png

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Update from PrestoAlert:


:Issued: 2014 Jul 09 0648 UTC
:Product: documentation at http://www.sidc.be/products/presto
#--------------------------------------------------------------------#
# FAST WARNING 'PRESTO' MESSAGE from the SIDC (RWC-Belgium) #
#--------------------------------------------------------------------#
A M6.5 flare, peaking at 16:20 UT on July 8, was detected originating from
Catania region 16 (NOAA AR 2113). The M-flare was associated with dimming,
type II and IV radio bursts and a partial halo CME. The CME was first seen
in the SOHO/LASCO C2 field of view at 16:36 UT, had the angular width of
126 degrees and the projected plane of
the sky speed of 466 km/s (as reported by the CACTus software). The bulk of
the CME
mass was ejected east from the Sun-Earth line. The arrival of the glancing
blow
from the CME-driven shock wave is possible in the evening of July 11.

http://www.sidc.be/products/presto/

We can expect a minor solar storm and increased Kp index as the solar wind from a small coronal hole reaches Earth on July 9-10.

[Rocky_Shorz]

earth facing flare popping off now, add this to a wave brushing us on the 12 and we could feel an impact...

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[Wind]

Solarham: Prominence Eruption

"A prominence eruption was observed Thursday morning off the western limb and it generated a bright, westerly directed coronal mass ejection (CME). Although the CME is significant, it should have little to no impact on our geomagnetic field. Imagery by SDO and LASCO."

Just look how the plasma left from the Sun, amazing. Those filaments are like large tentacles or whips, if I'm right they're hundreds of thousands miles long. Many Earth's could fit there. After the electrons took a dive, they've been rising since. Don't know about you, but I've been feeling a little restless and anxious today. Could be the hot weather tough.

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[Sidney]

WOW, YES I am feeling it too.

[Zaya]

WOW, YES I am feeling it too.

I have felt like CRAP all day myself. So so so tired. Can barely stay awake on the job. Terrible headache, achey joints. The whole nine. Also, my tinnitus is worse, and I am getting these static sounds.

[Fairy Friend]

Another little pop. I am not feeling to bad myself but when those electrons dive I know people feel it.

[Wind]

M1.5 flare.

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[Wind]

And then there is this thing... Our magnetic field (shield) has been fading rapidly and now it appers that a pole shift could be imminent and it already has begun as predicted. The reversal could happen in a couple of decades, or in a couple of years. Nobody just knows for sure. Cosmic rays will be affecting us more and more because they will get through the shield more easily.

Want to hear the good or bad news first? Well, the good news are that magnetic field reversals are supposedly related to evolutionary leaps. Then again the bad news are that they are also related to extinction of species... All that combined with really bad weather, floods and earthquakes etc. But the ancients knew about this. Yet human race has endured many pole flips and we're still here, persistent bunch we are. So no fear.

"When there is a shifting of the poles; or a new cycle begins." - Edgar Cayce

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[Sidney]

Speaking of pole shifts. Last night I noticed it was dark at 7 pm. In JULY????????????????? No worries, it turned out to be a momentary brain Phart. My kitchen clock had stopped. Sometimes you just need to laugh at your own stupidity. I really did have MAJOR brain fog yesterday. Could be from the solar activity. :peep::fish::doh::doh::doh::wacko:
Or just getting old.

[Bob]

Hi Wind - do you have a source for the magnetic field diminishing?

I have a sensitive 3 axis magnetometer that I have been watching for a couple years, daily.

At the first couple years I was seeing field movement, as if the pole was moving slightly, a little more south and west.

You may want to refer to: http://www.space.com/23131-earth-magnetic-field-shift-explained.html that details the westerly pole movement (that I am seeing on the magnetometers here).

Here's more links: http://news.discovery.com/earth/satellite-swarm-spots-north-pole-drift-140622.htm

From their page: "The first high-definition measurements from Swarm have been made and what’s become apparent are weakening regions within the core-generated magnetic field over the western hemisphere, while parts of the southern Indian Ocean show strengthening fields."

In other words, the TOTAL core field strength remains relatively the same, and people reporting FIELD DIMINISHING are not looking at the full story. Net balance in other words exists. BUT pole movement happens, DRIFT..

"It’s known that Earth’s magnetic poles occasionally reverse, a process that takes several thousand years to complete and creates a much more complex and unpredictable — but still protective — field during the interim. And while the weakening observed by Swarm could be a sign of a polarity reversal on the way, it’s an event that’s probably still thousands of years away."

I don't think I need, nor does anyone else need to worry for at least a 1000 years about the poles having drifted so far that compasses no longer point where we expect them. Pole shift drift compensation has been taken into account since 1904 when it was first discovered. And the poles didn't flip back then and nor did the field become zero either when it was discovered.

These last couple months the magnetic field actually has been going up slightly at this monitoring location. Which could be due to some influence from the sun's mag field shift changing in polarity and creating an apparent higher reading.

This magnetometer is so sensitive, when you walk into the room, it can see one's iron in the blood and react to the body movement closer or further from the sensor where it is pointed towards the magnetic pole. I can easily see the changes during the day when the sun moves overhead, (and on the backside of the planet that is apparent too for the lower levels).

Of course my location is not the sum total of all the planet's magnetic field monitors (both ground based and satellite based). Seasonally there is a change observable as well. It's great for seeing geomagnetic storms too, and generally keeping an eye on the fluctuations. That's why looking at the new SWARM satellite data is a good source of reliable data, high resolution field monitoring.


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This map above is from JUNE 2014. It is CURRENT.

Swarm measurements of Earth’s magnetic field from June 2014.

Blue areas show where it has dropped and red where it has increased. (by ESA/DTU SPACE). The current map from June 2014 does NOT match the map provided by IceAgeNow website.

One can see the "intensity oscillation cycles across" the lower and upper hemispheres. Pretty interesting seeing this in detail :)

I don't see any NORTH South FLIP potential in those current planet-maps, do you? I see an pronounced cyclic oscillation pattern showing up (sinusoidal), which would be consistent with different cooling rates and heating rates of the mantle magma. As you know I have been watching the solar energy influx and have been following Mitch Battros' theories on planetary earthquakes, and volcanic activity tracking plate melting during periods of strong earth facing particle influx. (the particles have to be converted to heat is the theory, and some areas will heat, others will remain cool, thereby changing the overall mantel cooling rates proportionately).

One could track back with a good enough supercomputer, and look at the solar flux records, to look at solar heating cycles, and the position of the earth in the season, and see it's angle. Regionally one would see the field patterns shown by the Swarm satellite group.


http://ganymede.nmsu.edu/tharriso/ast301/earthorbit.gif

Planetary field changes (24 hours) with Sun position:


http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ace/Mag_24h.gif



I really would appreciate seeing your source so that I can see their tracking history records to show the peaks and dips.



Update:
SWARM a paper on how it works, and why it is not completely accurate in predictions..


http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/postgraduate/PhD/getDocument?SerialNo=871

From the PDF above:

However, despite our best modelling efforts, there are still problems separating the various
sources of the magnetic field which have signals that overlap in both the spatial and
temporal domains. The main source is in the Earth’s fluid outer core and this changes slowly
in time, elucidating deep Earth processes and composition.

However, magnetised rocks in the Earth’s crust and the highly dynamic ionosphere-magnetosphere system (modulated by the solar wind) both present challenges to separating out the pure core field signal.

[..] applying Ampère’s integral method to Swarm data to quantify in-situ electrical currents in the regions between the satellites, whose existence can invalidate the widely applied source-free assumption in spherical harmonic analysis (Shore et al, 2013).

--Solar activity is emphasized as affecting the perceived magnetic field strength.

As we know this solar cycle HAS been extremely LOW as far as energy output. When that happens the total magnetic earth perceived energy "drops", but the earth geomagnetic field is a function of solar input :) so there is the missing "total satellite perceived" magnetic energy..

Overall what is being seen is that there is OSCILLATIONS, and they are tracking seasonal variations as well as solar output (flux) changes.

SOLAR flux has been diminishing this solar cycle. It has been reported numbers of times, a very uneventful solar cycle, no max, a minimum in energy..

THEREFORE:

ALL the data needs to be compiled including taking into account solar flux, solar wind, x-ray flux energy, coronal hole particle streams, not just a small snippet looking at just an over-view of the earth magnetism.. and trying to make an assumption that the planet's core is no longer exhibiting its normal magnetization values.

The SWARM people admit to such in the report:

However, magnetised rocks in the Earth’s crust and the highly dynamic ionosphere-magnetosphere system (modulated by the solar wind) both present challenges to separating out the pure core field signal.


swarm site: http://smsc.cnes.fr/SWARM/

[Wind]

The video and this: http://iceagenow.info/2014/07/earths-magnetic-poles-ready-flip-swarm-manager/

[Bob]

The video and this: http://iceagenow.info/2014/07/earths-magnetic-poles-ready-flip-swarm-manager/

Thanks -

I see what they did on that website, they used a small portion of the SWARM satellite map (I have the full map on my post above) and it looks like they didn't point out that the sum TOTAL is about the same.. Seems like incomplete data if you ask me.. What swarm data is showing us is an oscillatory movement, sinusoidal and nothing unusual.

Update - by the way, IceAgeNow.info is not the Swarm official website - it is not providing data reports from the scientific website, nor from the data-gatherers, nor from the scientific community who is looking at the data. I pointed out in my post the actual research website, above..

SWARM researchers talk about the deficiencies in their current method, that their database has NOT taken into account the solar wind, solar flux (which has diminished this solar cycle over other previous sunspot cycle years) and that solar wind messes with the calculations. Since they are only a short amount of time in operation as well, to predict and say planet field has rapidly dropped is inaccurate, clearly the details come from not dealing with ALL the data (as was pointed out). There are SO many variations that affect the data, including tidal forces, ocean current, (El Nino and El Nina), that there are artifacts.

In their data they show field increase over the North American Continent, not field drops. And that does show up on the ultra-sensitive magnetometers that I have here and have run for a couple years. It's going UP not down regionally.

[Hervé]

Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now (http://www.livescience.com/46694-magnetic-field-weakens.html)

by Kelly Dickerson | July 08, 2014 11:29am ET



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Changes measured by the Swarm satellite over the past 6 months shows that Earth's magnetic field is changing. Shades of red show areas where it is strengthening, and shades of blue show areas that are weakening. Credit: ESA/DTU


Earth's magnetic field, which protects the planet from huge blasts of deadly solar radiation, has been weakening over the past six months, according to data collected by a European Space Agency (ESA) satellite array called Swarm.

The biggest weak spots in the magnetic field (http://www.livescience.com/41758-earth-magnetic-field-magma-ocean.html) — which extends 370,000 miles (600,000 kilometers) above the planet's surface — have sprung up over the Western Hemisphere, while the field has strengthened over areas like the southern Indian Ocean, according to the magnetometers onboard the Swarm satellites — three separate satellites floating in tandem.

The scientists who conducted the study are still unsure why the magnetic field is weakening, but one likely reason is that Earth's magnetic poles are getting ready to flip, said Rune Floberghagen, the ESA's Swarm mission manager. In fact, the data suggest magnetic north is moving toward Siberia.

"Such a flip is not instantaneous, but would take many hundred if not a few thousand years," Floberghagen told Live Science. "They have happened many times in the past."[50 Amazing Facts About Planet Earth (http://www.livescience.com/19102-amazing-facts-earth.html)]

Scientists already know that magnetic north shifts (http://www.livescience.com/2897-earth-magnetic-field-flip-flops.html). Once every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles flip so that a compass would point south instead of north. While changes in magnetic field strength are part of this normal flipping cycle, data from Swarm have shown the field is starting to weaken faster than in the past. Previously, researchers estimated the field was weakening about 5 percent per century, but the new data revealed the field is actually weakening at 5 percent per decade, or 10 times faster than thought. As such, rather than the full flip occurring in about 2,000 years, as was predicted, the new data suggest it could happen sooner.

Floberghagen hopes that more data from Swarm will shed light on why the field is weakening faster now.

Still, there is no evidence that a weakened magnetic field would result in a doomsday for Earth. During past polarity flips there were no mass extinctions or evidence of radiation damage. Researchers think power grids and communication systems would be most at risk.

Earth's magnetic field (http://www.livescience.com/21668-why-earth-magnetic-field-wonky.html) acts like a giant invisible bubble that shields the planet from the dangerous cosmic radiation spewing from the sun in the form of solar winds (http://www.livescience.com/24423-earth-magnetic-field-sieve.html). The field exists because Earth has a giant ball of iron at its core surrounded by an outer layer of molten metal. Changes in the core's temperature and Earth's rotation boil and swirl the liquid metal around in the outer core, creating magnetic field lines.

The movement of the molten metal is why some areas of the magnetic field strengthen while others weaken, Florberghagen said. When the boiling in one area of the outer core slows down, fewer currents of charged particles are released, and the magnetic field over the surface weakens.

"The flow of the liquid outer core almost pulls the magnetic field around with it," Floberghagen said. "So, a field weakening over the American continent would mean that the flow in the outer core below America is slowing down."

The Swarm satellites not only pick up signals coming from the Earth's magnetic field, but also from its core, mantle, crust and oceans. Scientists at the ESA hope to use the data to make navigation systems that rely on the magnetic field, such as aircraft instruments, more accurate, improve earthquake predictions (http://www.livescience.com/22064-earthquake-noise-prediction.html) and pinpoint areas below the planet's surface that are rich in natural resources. Scientists think fluctuations in the magnetic field could help identify where continental plates are shifting and help predict earthquakes.

These first results from Swarm were presented at the Third Swarm Science Meeting in Denmark on June 19.

[Fairy Friend]

It's like a dance. Start off slow and then go fast and then change directions start off slow and then go fast. Maybe because the inner core of the planet is cooling down it reheats it which in turn kicks the magnetic fields back on. Just a thought. Like a dance one way than the others and start off slow and then goes fast.

Mothers nature's way of keeping variety in the DNA and yet conserving adaptations and their DNA. Back and forth sometimes fast and sometimes slow. Sometimes change and sometimes conserve.

[Bob]

Getting to the bottom of a disinformation "sensationalism" designed to instill fear..

The Earth's magnetic field, a shield that protects the planet - it is important to know some things about it. This below is from the folks who provided the data being distorted by various un-scientific websites that are being used to pull "snippets" or out-of-context data.

ref: http://smsc.cnes.fr/SWARM/champ_magnetique_terre.htm

What is the Earth's magnetic field?
The Earth's magnetic field is produced by all the sources of magnetism - electric currents or magnetised materials - found inside the Earth, on its surface and in its near-space environment. By far the most important is the field produced by the geodynamo in the Earth's core, which is responsible for the essentially bipolar structure that makes compasses point North. As an initial approximation it can be said to behave like the magnetic field of a bar magnet and is currently inclined at an angle of about 10° relative to the Earth's north-south axis. This "principal" field comes from the core and forms a protective shield against cosmic radiation and the charged particles of the solar wind. It is also responsible for the existence of several other secondary sources.

Where causes the Earth's magnetic field?
The Earth's core is located 2900 km beneath our feet and consists mainly of an alloy of iron and nickel. The central, or inner, core is solid. The outer core is still liquid and intensely hot (between 4000°C and 6000°C). This outer core has been cooling very slowly since the Earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago, and generates convection currents that create a self-perpetuating dynamo mechanism, which is the source of the principal magnetic field. This principal field also, although indirectly, activates the other sources of magnetic fields found on Earth.

For instance, a small part of the Earth's magnetic field comes from rocks in the Earth's crust, which are partly magnetised. Another very dynamic part of the field comes from electric currents found in the ionosphere (which is a very good conductor of electricity) and in the magnetosphere (which is constantly being crossed by charged particles).

These currents appear as a result of the complex interaction between the principal magnetic field, the ionosphere and the solar wind. They in turn induce other electric currents in the Earth's crust and mantle, which are also good conductors. Lastly, even the oceans (which are also good conductors) carry weak electric currents that generate a magnetic field.

What would happen if it disappeared?
It is by no means impossible that the geodynamo could one day cease to function, which is what happened to the dynamo of Mars. This is of course highly unlikely considering the billions of years that the solar system is likely to last. If such an event should occur, however, our planet would no longer be protected against the solar wind. This would leave the Earth's atmosphere as our only protection against the assault of solar particles, causing more intense episodes of aurora borealis (and aurora australis), changes to the electric currents circulating in the ionosphere and the near-space environment, and greater exposure of the Earth to radiation. This would result in considerable changes to the atmosphere and the living world, but over fairly long timescales. There would, however, be considerable consequences to our civilisation in the short term.

This is because the technologies on which we now depend, both space-based and ground-based, depend heavily on the protection provided by the principal magnetic field.

Is the magnetic field constant?
We can prove that the Earth's magnetic field has existed for more than 3 billion years and there is good reason to suppose that the geodynamo got going when the core was formed, not long after the Earth itself took shape.

We also know, however, that the field is extremely dynamic over any given timescale.

Even at the scale of a human lifetime, for example, the field can vary significantly. Insofar as the magnetic North and South poles can be defined as points where the magnetic field is exactly vertical to the surface of the Earth, they are by no means antipodal (opposite one another). The magnetic north pole is to the north of Canada, at a geographic latitude of more than 85° North, whereas the magnetic South Pole lies off the French base of Dumont d'Urville in Antarctica, at only 65° South.

Over the ages, these two poles have continued to move in an irregular fashion. The magnetic North Pole had previously been moving at the rate of about 15 km a year but in the 1990s it started to move much faster, at about 60 km a year.

Another particularly important demonstration of the dynamics of the Earth's magnetic field is the very marked anomaly, known as the "South Atlantic Anomaly", where the field is much weaker.

This anomaly also changes over time.

The previous space missions have shown over the last 30 years that the anomaly has expanded and its magnetic field (and) has lost almost 5% of its strength.

This has an impact on satellites in Low Earth Orbits, which suffer much more from radiation when they cross this zone.


IN other words, the quotes being extracted OUT-OF-CONTEXT about having lost 5% of it's strength refer to ONLY the South American Anomaly. In my original post a few comments back, the current JUNE 2014 SWARM map points out and centers on the South American Anomaly and show how in South America there is FIELD STRENGTH density decreasing because the field has gotten WIDER, more spread out. A localized field "point source", being spread out, would appear to have less energy in the POINT SOURCE, however looking at the total MASS, the total AREAS overall as seen in the actual current June 2014 map, there is no diminished mag strength OVERALL looking at the whole planet's core. There IS solar variation as is pointed out in this page and others, which contribute to the "perceived value". When websites continually cite OUT-OF-CONTEXT to promote fear and or disinformation, that is not in the best interests of people wanting to know.

What if it reversed its polarity?

(a WHAT IF is a what-if, not a suggestion that a flip can happen in the near future)

The principal field has already flipped over in the past - and several times! We know this from studies on rocks that were magnetised by earlier magnetic fields. These rocks show us that the north and south magnetic poles reversed 780,000 years ago, for example.

They also show that an earlier reversal occurred 900,000 years ago and that others occurred before then, very irregularly but at an average of once every 200,000 years.

These studies show that reversals occur over several thousands of years and are always proceeded by considerable weakening of the principal field. The field is currently weakening fairly rapidly (it has lost about 6% of its strength in a century), but is still considerably stronger than the low values that tend to proceed a reversal. It may even regain strength over the next hundred years.


The field is currently weakening fairly rapidly (it has lost about 6% of its strength in a century), but is still considerably stronger than the low values that tend to proceed a reversal. It may even regain strength over the next hundred years.

The disinformation websites have been saying 6% decrease in the last 6 months !! That is so deceptively wrong, IMHO, designed to distort and create fear. The scientific SWARM monitoring organization stated it quite clearly 6% in 100 YEARS, but added a caveat, it can very easily go back UP !


As I have been observing locally in the USA, there is a field INCREASE HAPPENING as shown on sensitive local 3 axis magnetometers, and verified on the June 2014 SWARMS satellite strength map.

Although there will doubtless be another reversal one day, there is no particular reason to expect one in the next several thousand years.

For the moment however, the expansion and movement of the South Atlantic Anomaly is of far more immediate concern!

When the next reversal does occur however, it will be important to be ready. The strength of the field will diminish to less than 10% of its current value.


There is no scientific prediction that field reversal will occur in the near future, if anything predictions have said it can take about 1000 years for that to happen.

The north and south poles will gradually split up into several poles, which will each start to wander into the opposing hemisphere, where, once the reversal is complete, they will reunite into a single pole. The field will then start to intensify in its new polarity.

Over this long period, the weakness of the magnetic field and its multipolar nature will considerably modify the way it interacts with the solar wind.

The magnetosphere will be much more vulnerable and the weakened "magnetic shield" will produce more aurora borealis events, while more intense magnetic storms may occur. It will be imperative to adopt any technologies that are sensitive to these storms or to radiation, whether at ground level or in near space. Living beings will also be more exposed to radiation.

A compass is useless without a map
Compasses indicate the direction of the local magnetic field and as a rule only point very approximately towards the magnetic North Pole. If you continue following the directions given by such a compass, however, you inevitably reach the magnetic North Pole.

Of course you can also use a compass to work out the direction of true North. To do this however, you must first know the "magnetic declination", the angle between the direction given by the compass and the real direction of true North, in order to know by how much to correct the compass reading. This angle differs for different points on the surface of the Earth and also varies over time. To find true North using a compass, a traveller will also need a sufficiently recent map!

Did you know?

The first measurement of the magnetic North Pole was made in 1831. It was then at about 70°N, 97°W. In 2010, it was at 85°N, 133°W, which means that it had moved by almost 2000 km.

Airport runway numbers correspond to the local magnetic declination, so they have to be repainted periodically to keep up with shifts in the Earth's magnetic field.

In 1989, a violent magnetic storm knocked out the power grid in Quebec, Canada, plunging the entire province into darkness for nine hours. The aurora borealis generated by this storm could be seen as far south as Florida and Cuba.

For folks more interested in SCIENCE, here is the reference link:

ref: http://smsc.cnes.fr/SWARM/GP_science.htm

[MorningSong]

Yes, the M-flare originated from sunspot 2106 at 22:34 UTC as it is crossing over to the backside of the earth-facing sun...

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events_archive/events_summary/2014/07/10/gev_20140710_2229/gev_20140710_2229.png

It was preceded by a long duration C7 flare from sunspot 2113 peaking at 21:13 UTC:

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events_archive/events_summary/2014/07/10/gev_20140710_2100/gev_20140710_2100.png

[Wind]

Bob, I appreciate that you have investigated the matter, but I don't agree that it's disinformation or fear mongering. I trust Ben Davidson and Robert Felix, but I don't trust most of the official sources that much. There is the "official" view and then there is the unconventional, unpleasant view. I hesitated posting about the subject because I don't want to instil fear on anyone, just awareness. Clif High in his latest video also talks about the subject.

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Here is Dr. Paul LaViolette's latest post about cosmic rays:

Telltale Signs of a Cosmic Ray Shower? (http://etheric.com/telltale-signs-cosmic-ray-shower/)


I don’t know if this is anything worth reporting, but I will report it anyway. Today on two occasions while watching TV there was an interference flash of the picture and the audio gave off what sounded like a static discharge. This seems very much like what would be caused by a cosmic ray passing through the TV electronics. Digital TVs are supposed to be interference free except when an airplane passes between your antenna and the transmitting tower or except in the case where you have a weak signal. Neither of these situations applied to this case.

Also supplementary to this on several occasions during the past few days I have experienced a solitary blue flash of light. I am guessing that our eyes and brains can act as very good cosmic ray detectors in that a penetrating cosmic ray would initiate a neural response. I previously do not remember having such blue flash sensations. So in combination with the TV signal experience I am wondering if occasional high energy cosmic rays may be arriving from the Galactic core in advance of a main superwave volley due to a possible superluminal propagation effect. The recent finding that the G2 cloud a month ago had not yet reached pericenter now makes some sort of core explosion a more likely outcome.

If any of you following these postings experience something similar that you regard as out of the ordinary, please comment.

It only confirms my suspicions.

[Fairy Friend]

I knew what the flashes were before this was even brought up. But that is because I worked on the initial set up of the first eye culture (first organ culture) @ UW school of veterinary medicine Dr. Christopher Murphy. So let me confirm this. I already knew astronauts experience this and connected the dots. Since you mostly have rods in the eye which detect light, we see a white flash then blue because it's automatically the way the eye works. Just like staring at a white light with your eyes, you'll see a blue dot where the light was. So usually you'll see a white flash or blue. Which is usually your rods but cones detect colors and so not unheard of to see colors. It then initiates an pulse to the nerve to the brain and your brain interprets the signal as a flash of light.

If this subject had not been brought up I was thinking about it. Even though we are talking about small points of damage, if that at all, since the rods automatically flip and then reset themselves when we see a flash of light. Damage is minimal unless there is long-term exposure.

Most people don't notice and there is variation in the amounts of rods and cones each individual has in their eyes.

Astronauts who have been in space a long time do not go blind. The eye is very capable of repairing a lot of damage. I'm big on vitamin C for the eye. Rosehip tea if you're a tea drinker.

As for the magnetic poles, people are not saying things that are a lot different from each other and only time will tell how this is going to play. The differences seem to be how bad is this going to be or what is normal and how long it's going to take. I am going to making assumptions here, that no one is actually publishing in this field of expertise. I am perfectly capable of making up my own mind and I am not afraid. I'm also capable changing my mind as it suits me. But that is because I learn new things. I am less afraid when I am informed.

I do not think anyone should be afraid of bringing forward something. I am NOT the bravest but I do change my mind and I do find courage. Clearly others are experiencing things as well. Also experiencing things with the electromagnetics.

[Fairy Friend]

I am getting that I queasy feeling again but I don't think it's huge and thinking a small cme or my eyes are on the coronal hole. We just had a minor one I might be just feeling that a bit.

[Fairy Friend]

it seems as though the Sun is very quiet almost comatose. The electrons were diving before but they seem to be starting to return a normal as well.

[Wind]

Yes, those sunspots had significant power and we have seen nothing, this is the same case as during the Maunder minimum. They witnessed how Earth killed the sunspots then and cold weather dominated Earth then. This is only the beginning of that phase and the (extreme) weather effects are still fairly mild compared to the event's ahead in the next few years and decades.

[Wind]

We're expecting a minor CME impact today, let's see if the electrons will react to it. Also here is the latest update from Paul LaViolette regarding cosmic rays:

"July 12th update (http://etheric.com/telltale-signs-cosmic-ray-shower/)

The overwhelming response received to the above July 11th posting from people reporting something similar indicates that this blue flash experience may be real and more widespread than initially thought. It is such a brief event and so sporadic that most normally would not pay much attention to it. The report that Kurt Sarrica made in the comments section was interesting: that Apollo astronauts had reported this same white or blue flash experience when they were in space outside of the Earth’s protective magnetic field shield further strengthens this supposition. (See the following wikipedia posting suggested by Kurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray_visual_phenomena.) So that puts us flash seers in league with some fairly reputable space venturers. I have not noticed these before, unlike a few of the people who responded in the comments. It is perhaps the frequency of the events that has called my attention to them. Considering that the G2 cloud may be approaching pericenter in this month or next month (as well as the prediction of Father Avondios), this all gives me some reason for concern.

Such flashes which we are now experiencing on Earth under protection of the geomagnetic field would suggest that we are being exposed to very high energy cosmic rays, ones of high “magnetic rigidity” capable of penetrating the Earth’s field. These would be the first to arrive in the advent of a core explosion because they are traveling so close to the speed of light. In fact, it is possible they could surf a bit ahead of the light horizon, hence be superluminal. I have mentioned before the experiments that Guy Obolensky and I performed some years ago which demonstrate that waves from shock discharges travel superluminally by piggy backing on the shock’s outgoing ether wind. In the future keep in mind the flash phenomenon. If you experience many flashes occurring repeatedly, try to take cover to avoid overexposure to cosmic rays. This built in cosmic ray detector may be useful for surviving a future superwave.

In the comments Charlie Knoll mentioned the following cosmic ray neutron record maintained by the EU NMDB program (Neutron Monitor Data Base): http://www.nmdb.eu/?q=node/335. He mentioned that it showed two instances of multiple sites going down at about the same time. I think only the second instance is worth paying attention to. It involved about 9 sites out of 33 located around the world all going off-line at the same time and an additional two sites already being off line somewhat before that; see summary chart below.

http://etheric.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/chart_all_3d_eff.png
Neutron monitor readings at various stations around the world over the past 3 days.

The detectors that went down are located in the vicinity of the north and south pole where geomagnetic screening is minimal. They include:


SOPO (South Pole, Antarctica)
SOPB (South Pole Bare, Antarctica)
THUL (Thule, Greenland)
PW NK (Peawanuk, Canada)
NAIN (Nain, New Foundland)
MCMU (McMurdo, Antarctica)
INVK (Inuvik, Alaska)
FSMT (Fort Smith Canada)
NEW K (Newark, USA)


The detectors at NRLK (Norilsk, Siberia, Russia) and NANM (Nor-Amberd, Armenia) remained on but recorded large excursions in the midst of this period. A few of the detectors were not functioning prior to the event, like TXBY (Tixie Bay, Siberia), MWSN (Mawson, Russia), KGSN (Kingston, Russia), and IRKT (Irkutsk, Russia).

Each time tick mark along the bottom of the chart represents 1 hour in Greenwich Mean Time. This multi-detector cut off (or down period) began about 19:20 GMT (equivalent to about 1:20 PM MDT (Mountain Daylight Time) or slightly after 12 noon MST. Perhaps Charlie meant daylight savings mountain time. I am currently near Athens Greece which is 3 hours later than GMT. So this indicates that the detectors cut out about 10:20 PM my time. In fact, that is about the time that I observed the TV signal interference. I was watching a movie from 10 PM to 12 midnight and the interference came toward the beginning of the movie as I remember. So this data confirms that the interference I saw on my TV coincided approximately with the knocking out of nine high latitude neutron monitors.

I observed two distinct signal glitches on my TV separated by about 10 to 15 minutes. Could this be the time difference between a proton cosmic ray primary particle and an electron cosmic ray primary particle? The electrons travel at a slightly higher velocity because they have 1/2000 th of the mass of a proton. The NRLK and NANM events that occurred after midnight GMT were long after I had shut off my TV and gone to bed. So cannot correlate these two events."

[Fairy Friend]

I noticed that with the imagery of the Sun certain pictures will go pixelly and its a heads up some things coming or some thing is about happen. My body can feel things too and I know that's true of other people. Especially when there's a big or sudden change.

Last night I went out with my Mother and I saw that a TV at the restaurant go real pixelly and froze up completely and I must admit I thought of you.

[Nick Matkin]

I observed two distinct signal glitches on my TV separated by about 10 to 15 minutes. Could this be the time difference between a proton cosmic ray primary particle and an electron cosmic ray primary particle? The electrons travel at a slightly higher velocity because they have 1/2000 th of the mass of a proton. The NRLK and NANM events that occurred after midnight GMT were long after I had shut off my TV and gone to bed. So cannot correlate these two events.

Friends, colleagues and I observe solar activity using more sophisticated radio equipment than domestic TVs. We've detected nothing unusual, sorry.

Believe me, any unusual cosmic-ray/solar activity detected anywhere would soon be the chatter of all the amateur bulletin boards...

And if lots of people started seeing flashes of light, wouldn't this be picked up by opticians? Wouldn't people be contacting the media to ask if anyone else was seeing these? Wouldn't friends, neighbours and relatives be talking about this strange new phenomenon?

Nick

[MorningSong]

News from spaceweather.com:


BLANK SUN: Ten days ago, the sun was peppered with large spots. Now it is nearly blank. This image taken on July 15th by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory shows a solar disk almost completely devoid of dark cores:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/15jul14/blanksun_strip.jpg

Long-time readers absorbing this image might be reminded of 2008-2009, years when the sun plunged into the deepest solar minimum in a century. The resemblance, however, is only superficial. Underneath the visible surface of the sun, the solar dynamo is still churning out knots of magnetism that will soon bob to the surface to make sunspots. Solar Max is not finished.

For today, though, it has been paused. Solar activity is low, and NOAA forecasters put the odds of an X-class flare at less than 1%.

VERy interesting since se haven't had a sunspotless sun in 3 years:


Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 0 days
2014 total: 0 days (0%)
2013 total: 0 days (0%)
2012 total: 0 days (0%)
2011 total: 2 days (<1%)
2010 total: 51 days (14%)
2009 total: 260 days (71%)
Update 15 Jul 2014


Maybe Solar Cycle 24 really is done for...

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/f10.gif

[Bob]

I observed two distinct signal glitches on my TV separated by about 10 to 15 minutes. Could this be the time difference between a proton cosmic ray primary particle and an electron cosmic ray primary particle? The electrons travel at a slightly higher velocity because they have 1/2000 th of the mass of a proton. The NRLK and NANM events that occurred after midnight GMT were long after I had shut off my TV and gone to bed. So cannot correlate these two events.

Friends, colleagues and I observe solar activity using more sophisticated radio equipment than domestic TVs. We've detected nothing unusual, sorry.

Believe me, any unusual cosmic-ray/solar activity detected anywhere would soon be the chatter of all the amateur bulletin boards...

And if lots of people started seeing flashes of light, wouldn't this be picked up by opticians? Wouldn't people be contacting the media to ask if anyone else was seeing these? Wouldn't friends, neighbours and relatives be talking about this strange new phenomenon?

Nick

Hi Nick, last night in the coronal hole thread i posted that the Proton Flux was 10X over normal levels - that is about the only oddity besides the current spots situation.

Also the coronal hole pattern yesterday was showing a lot of small holes, nothing large.. And that there was a strange cloud pattern appearing with very regular geometry - see the pix

--Bob

[Fairy Friend]

I observed two distinct signal glitches on my TV separated by about 10 to 15 minutes. Could this be the time difference between a proton cosmic ray primary particle and an electron cosmic ray primary particle? The electrons travel at a slightly higher velocity because they have 1/2000 th of the mass of a proton. The NRLK and NANM events that occurred after midnight GMT were long after I had shut off my TV and gone to bed. So cannot correlate these two events.

Friends, colleagues and I observe solar activity using more sophisticated radio equipment than domestic TVs. We've detected nothing unusual, sorry.

Believe me, any unusual cosmic-ray/solar activity detected anywhere would soon be the chatter of all the amateur bulletin boards...

And if lots of people started seeing flashes of light, wouldn't this be picked up by opticians? Wouldn't people be contacting the media to ask if anyone else was seeing these? Wouldn't friends, neighbours and relatives be talking about this strange new phenomenon?

Nick

People are reporting flashes that's the point. Most people don't notice and actually those that do have my attention.

The sun has nothing unusual about it, this is normal and the sun is capable of doing everything and anything with the energies and particles and plasma. The Sun is quiet and It is active and it does everything in between.

I have been able to predict several flares and earthquakes, is your equipment sophisticated enough to do that? Have you been successful at that? I have.

I find it fascinating the Sun is so quiet. And it was predicted to do so and not by me, but I agreed with the prediction.

[sheme]

My son tells me there was an item on the TV news about increased agitation from the people about "chem trails" the usual platitudes were dished out , " Do not be concerned it is just condensation from the aircraft that must take the most direct rout to their destination". This is so insulting to the thinking man's intelligence, - How dare they! Despite the dumbing down of our children we have eyes to see- one day they will acknowledge their lies and eat their words.

Tonight There was exceptional chem trail activity around the sunset -so, armed with my camera I trekked up the hill to get some shots of the action , not so clear here but there was an unusual object /glow/ WHY to the west of the sun , do push you PC screen away to get some dramatic 3 d contrasted shots of life here in Herefordshire, what ever it was they definitely didn't want us to see it. will down load photos asap.

[Nick Matkin]

I have been able to predict several flares and earthquakes, is your equipment sophisticated enough to do that? Have you been successful at that? I have.

If you can predict flares and earthquakes (and if you have plenty of of documentary evidence, which I guess you will have) you should be in great demand.

No doubt government agencies will be skeptical, but present your evidence to some of the amateur solar and geology and groups first. They'd be very keen to be in on something that no one else has done, and they'd be very interested to work out the physics linking these events.

Nick.

[Fairy Friend]

I have been able to predict several flares and earthquakes, is your equipment sophisticated enough to do that? Have you been successful at that? I have.

If you can predict flares and earthquakes (and if you have plenty of of documentary evidence, which I guess you will have) you should be in great demand.

No doubt government agencies will be skeptical, but present your evidence to some of the amateur solar and geology and groups first. They'd be very keen to be in on something that no one else has done, and they'd be very interested to work out the physics linking these events.

Nick.

In the past I have done just that. Including contacting Hawaii before the 2004 tsunami. They ignored Hawaii and they are the world's foremost leading authority besides Japan. If they are ignored, well that tells you something. I've done my time so to speak. But that was 10 years ago so perhaps I should give it another try. Thank you for your suggestion. I will consider it.

I'm not sure I have the fight in me. Even if I am curious. Semi-retired now. But this is not my field of expertise directly, perhaps I needed to approach another country instead.

I know I am NOT the only one.

[Sidney]

My body is sensing energies tonight. At around 9 pm central US time until current. Anyone else have their feelers up?

[Fairy Friend]

I thought it felt like 3 waves if subtle energy. I felt another a little while ago. Not sure, I checked for earthquakes but no big ones today. Not yet.

[Wind]

Something wrong with my Wi-fi here, laptop nor table PC won't connect so I have the use my smart phone. Not really used to that.... Besides that I've been sleeping really poorly thanks to hot weather and the Moon.

Elevated cosmic rays so that's what you probably have been feeling something and the sunspot situation is getting catastrophically minimal. This is what was predicted, we will soon start to see a Sun which is incapable of developing any sunspots. Then it will get cold...

Solar Flare Risk
M-Class: 01%
X-Class: 01%

SolarHam: "Here is an updated look at the visible solar disk on Tuesday. With the exception of region 2113 which is in an advanced state of decay, the Earth facing side of the sun is just about spotless. Solar activity is expected to be at very low (X-Rays below C-Class) to low levels during the next 24 hours. No Earth directed coronal mass ejections were observed during the past day."

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2vd2ujp.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2uqg5xc.jpg

[Wind]

Via SolarHam (http://solarham.net/):

Spotless

"Below is an updated image of the visible solar disk on Wednesday. Okay, Technically this is a picture of an orange, but our visible disk looks very similar today. Region 2113 faded away leaving the Earth facing side of the sun spotless for the first time since August 14, 2011. This will be made official later today just as long as 2113 remains a spotless plage. We will likely see more periods of active sunspots during the next year or so, but a gradual downward turn in overall activity is inevitable. Solar activity should continue at very low levels today. No Earth directed coronal mass ejections were observed during the past day. Stay tuned to SolarHam.com for the latest information."

http://solarham.net/pictures/orange.jpg

Visible Solar Disk (Wednesday) - SDO/HMI

[Violet]

Unbearably hot in Belgium. Our climate is as such that anything above 29°C feels like anything well above 40°C in Spain and even that feels cooler (to do with altitude and, both, proximity and open flanks to the sea). Belgium is a historical part of the "Lower Lands" aka Netherlands.

Tomorrow rain is promised...but not until another day passes with yet 1 degree hotter.

And how are you guys doing?

[MorningSong]

Here in Northern Italy Central, it is extreemly hot and humid, too... over 104°F (40° C) in direct sun at 13:00.

When I go out, I can actually feel the rays penetrating/cooking the skin... awesome!

I'm noticing that there are less chemtrails lately... I would have expected more with the flight re-routes....

A thunderstorm just went through but it just barely rained here... at least the air is a little cooler now.

[MorningSong]

On July 17th, we broke the two-and-a-half years' ongoing record for Solar Cycle 24 of "days with sunspots" ... The last time we could observe the earth-facing side of the sun without any sunspots was in 2011...

Update from spaceweather.com:


THE "ALL QUIET EVENT": For the 4th day in a row, solar activity is extremely low. Compared to the beginning of July, when sunspots were abundant, the sun's global X-ray output has dropped by a factor of ten. Moreover, on July 17th the sunspot number fell all the way to zero. We call it "the All Quiet Event."

As July 19th unfolds, the sun is no longer completely blank. Three small sunspots are emerging, circled in this image from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/19jul14/blank_strip.gif

These small sunspots are not about to break the quiet. None of them has the kind of complex magnetic field that harbors energy for strong flares. NOAA forecasters estimate the odds of a significant flare (M- or X-class) in the next 24 hours to be no more than 1%.

Before July 17, 2014, the previous spotless day was August 14, 2011, a gap of nearly 3 years. What happened then provides context for what is happening now. Overall, 2011 was a year of relatively high solar activity with multiple X-flares; the spotless sun was just a temporary intermission. 2014 will probably be remembered the same way. Or not. Almost anything is possible because, as one pundit observes, "you just can't predict the sun."

[Wind]

Wow... Look at these cosmic ray readings!

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ihkm50.jpg

[Wind]

This is getting out of hand... ;)

http://oi57.tinypic.com/219dulf.jpg

[Sidney]

Holy cow. Is that really the cosmic rays? That is crazy.

[Wind]

Holy cow. Is that really the cosmic rays? That is crazy.

Yes, the cosmic ray readings have been so massive that they even pop out of the frames, but I've seen heavy editing recently so I doubt that were even seeing all of the real readings. At the same time the solar wind speed is really low... 275 km/s. Too low, I think that these events could be related. So basically we're under cosmic ray showers constantly and they affect us in unknown ways. It's just that most people won't notice it. Human eyes are actually quite limited when it comes to seeing.

http://chandra.harvard.edu/graphics/resources/illustrations/em_spectrum2.jpg
https://www.eyespypro.com/product_images/uploaded_images/ir-spectrum-camera.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2lkziir.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

uh oh, did the sun just shut off or did the red dwarf Nibiru just appear?

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2014/eit304/20140721/20140721_0117_eit304_1024.jpg

something is going on with the EIT 304 satellite...

[Fairy Friend]

It shows up on this imagery also same satellite. Up above and to the left. What is that?

[Sidney]

I took a screen shot of those in case they disappear. What the heck???????????????????????????

[loc333]

what the hell

[loc333]

huge object interacting with the sun and no one has something to say here at avolon?

[Sidney]

huge object interacting with the sun and no one has something to say here at avolon?

This is not one of the busier threads, (it should be IMO, but what you going to do??LOL)

But I agree on the WTF is going on up there anyway. There is a lot of extremely weird stuff that is captured on those cameras, and many time I wonder why nobody pays attention. But IF those really are objects, they are MASSIVE.

[Daphne]

Whoah....makes me feel like we are in The Truman Show.

[loc333]

i was just surpriesed no body had anything to say..thats all thanks for the feed back sidney...im not alone..i feel better.

[Sidney]

Also, many of us here that do hang around on this thread are physically affected by the solar activity. And I just think that it does not affect most people. Aren't we the lucky ones. LOL.............. not. But, maybe the lurkers that don't say anything just feel like it simply out of our control.
My opinion is that there are MANY craft that are up there near the sun. Can you imagine the heat? And IMO, NASA has full knowledge of these. Are they ours????? So many questions, so few answers.

But those images from today, different than anything I have seen so far. Could they be some kind of glitch in the cameras?? ON TWO DIFFERENT ANGLES???

[loc333]

ya it could be some camera glitch...but you and i know from watching soho all the time ....years....that,s a picture that is usually pixeled out and for some reason...someone was asleep at the wheel

[Nick Matkin]

huge object interacting with the sun and no one has something to say here at avolon?

This is not one of the busier threads, (it should be IMO, but what you going to do??LOL)

But I agree on the WTF is going on up there anyway. There is a lot of extremely weird stuff that is captured on those cameras, and many time I wonder why nobody pays attention. But IF those really are objects, they are MASSIVE.

Exactly, if they really are objects. I suspect they are either artefacts of the camera and/or the image processing.

I suspect that simply because it seems these 'objects' haven't been noticed and reported by any amateur solar/radio astronomers - and many of them have detecting equipment for signals right through the visible, RF and gamma ray spectrum. Some of the objects look so big you could see them with the naked eye if they were in visible light, and even if only in UV, IR, x-ray or gamma ray they simply couldn't go unnoticed by everyone.

But that theory isn't as attractive as something out there that's being covered up by TPTB, but somehow they let these images out so it can be discussed on here...

Mmmmm

Nick

[Sidney]

huge object interacting with the sun and no one has something to say here at avolon?

This is not one of the busier threads, (it should be IMO, but what you going to do??LOL)

But I agree on the WTF is going on up there anyway. There is a lot of extremely weird stuff that is captured on those cameras, and many time I wonder why nobody pays attention. But IF those really are objects, they are MASSIVE.

Exactly, if they really are objects. I suspect they are either artefacts of the camera and/or the image processing.

I suspect that simply because it seems these 'objects' haven't been noticed and reported by any amateur solar/radio astronomers - and many of them have detecting equipment for signals right through the visible, RF and gamma ray spectrum. Some of the objects look so big you could see them with the naked eye if they were in visible light, and even if only in UV, IR, x-ray or gamma ray they simply couldn't go unnoticed by everyone.

But that theory isn't as attractive as something out there that's being covered up by TPTB, but somehow they let these images out so it can be discussed on here...

Mmmmm

Nick

Right, and the fact that the images are still there pretty much sums up that it is artifact due to malfunctions. If those were real objects, no way would they not be seen by someone. And the sun doesn;t just go dark without being noticed.

[Fairy Friend]

Something's going on, it's not updating either. It still shows the same picture. It might be a big malfunction. Hopefully, It'll get back online.

[Fairy Friend]

I am not feeling too bad today even though the electrons have been diving more.

I think Wind posted this before but this is one of the last images from EVE before she went down.

[Fairy Friend]

It's back online! yeah! Don't know if that was just me but she's back with new images.

[Violet]

huge object interacting with the sun and no one has something to say here at avolon?

I would say something if I knew it made sense...

[Fairy Friend]

Odd, SDO/AIA Imagery is not functioning now. I was looking at several bits of imagery which showed a subtle glow on top of the photos, as though the data feed was still going but it was misaligned and focused below the sun and not at the sun. Like it was catching just a bit of the bottom of the sun.Odd. Now when I went to copy these two images they weren't there. Not that they showed much.

[Fairy Friend]

Yes, I think it was misaligned which they haven't quite got it centered properly yet but closer. NASA has their glitches lately

[Fairy Friend]

Okay, sorry NASA it's the other left. The other left, the other direction. I'm sorry I couldn't resist that. In space there is no up or down it's easy to get confused.

[Violet]

Say, if you're a noob to astronomy and solar issues...Is this the right place to be asking questions? Or is there a more appropriate thread to do that? Because I would like to be able to look at those charts and instantly understand what I'm seeing without having to look up the manual everytime.

[Fairy Friend]

Say, if you're a noob to astronomy and solar issues...Is this the right place to be asking questions? Or is there a more appropriate thread to do that? Because I would like to be able to look at those charts and instantly understand what I'm seeing without having to look up the manual everytime.

I ask questions here. And there is an astronomy & cosmology section. But I favor this thread. Depends on the question of course some may be a better for general discussion. I have found the more complicated the equipment, the simpler the instruction manual tends to be. Except computers that's different.

[loc333]

i would like to say this is an important thread and if something crazy happenes to the sun you will probaly see it here first....:p in the whole world this is it

[Nick Matkin]

"The Sun Is Eerily Quiet, And Scientists Aren't Sure Why" (http://www.iflscience.com/space/sun-eerily-quiet-and-scientists-arent-sure-why)

Apart from the superfluous adjective in the headline, quite an interesting piece. Although we don't need to get exited, the sun's been there for 4bn years without significant mishap, and we've only been properly observing it for a couple of hundred years at most. Based on such a short observational period, we only know what it has done very recently, and have no idea how it can behave long term. The sun almost certainly isn't broken!

But since we're all still here I reckon apart from the occasional Carrington-type event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859), there's nothing for Joe Public to worry about.

But you never know do you...?

Nick

[Wind]

I've been seeing the cosmic ray flashes again... I'm pretty sure they have been editing the data again because just hours ago the graph looked different.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/fmjm7k.jpg

[MorningSong]

Update from spaceweather.com:


STRANGE SITUATION: Near the peak of Solar Max, the sun has slipped into a state that resembles Solar Minimum. Sunspot numbers are low; the sun's X-ray and radio output are depressed; and NOAA forecasters estimate a scant 1% chance of solar flares during the next 24 hours. The quiet could be disturbed during the weekend, however, by the expected return of two old sunspots currently transiting the farside of the sun.

...............

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/25jul14/hmi200.gif

Sunspot AR2121 poses a slight threat for minor C-class solar flares. Overall, solar activity is very low.

..............

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/25jul14/coronalhole_sdo_200.gif

A stream of solar wind flowing from the indicated coronal hole should reach Earth on July 28-29

[Stephanie]

Thank you for this amazing thread!Maybe there are many like myself,who visit regularly,yet feel powerless and uninformed to add anything,other than Wow!
Love this star.

[Violet]

Effect on electronics
Cosmic rays are suspected as a possible cause of an in-flight incident in 2008 where an Airbus A330 airliner of Qantas twice plunged hundreds of feet after an unexplained malfunction in its flight control system. Many passengers and crew members were injured, some seriously. After this incident, the accident investigators determined that the airliner's flight control system had received a data spike that could not be explained, and that all systems were in perfect working order. This has prompted a software upgrade to all A330 and A340 airliners, worldwide, so that any data spikes in this system are filtered out electronically.[65]
(Wikipedia)


Dates would need checking to see if there is overlap.

[Wind]

I'm sure someone has already done that...

Electrons took a dive, but I'm not affected. Though the 30C temperature here does affect me, not much good sleep for me...

http://oi60.tinypic.com/3020t3o.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

Not feeling the best. Energies are All over the place. Pain, trouble sleeping, queasey....After being quiet so long something is building.

[Wind]

You're not the only who has been experiencing pain... I wonder what is causing it, those electron fluctuations or either the massive cosmic ray readings which they are hiding now. My ear is ringing really loudly again.

[Fairy Friend]

I feel like everything is a little more active or unsettled. My ears and teeth are feeling this too. Not sure what's building. Definitely more energy coming in now than a long time.

[Fairy Friend]

Electrons are still doing a lot of diving. A few energy pulses here and there. Some pain and nausea. K index in the green but it surprised me, felt like it was going two be higher.

[Wind]

Fairy Friend, did you notice that Mexico quake? I too have been having nausea, but I thought that it was perhaps caused by the heat here or something that I ate. Sigh... No cosmic ray data for days now, if you have been following my posts here then you know why. People at the University of Delaware, come on. You're better than this, stop hiding the damn data. This is getting ridicilous.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/25tizpd.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/mu8y9z.jpg

[MorningSong]

Here's another source for Cosmic rays, although the graph is different... but it can give you an idea...

http://cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru/scripts/nm64queryD.dll/mosc?Res=1_hour&PD=1&DT=0&standard=yes&base=9600

http://cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru/mosc/main.htm

[MorningSong]

Here's another Cosmic Ray Monitoring site.... it shows the various stations and their readings...the Nor-Ambered Neutron Monitor (NAMN) in Armenia went off the graph this morning (third from the bottom-light blue color)...

http://www.nmdb.eu/nest/data/upload/chart_all_3d_eff.png

http://www.nmdb.eu/?q=node/335

Added: NEWK is the sigla for the Newark Neutron Monitor... if you look at the graph above in the middle, you'll see that it is currently offline. I think that's where the data comes from on the U of Del-Bartol site comes from... although, the U of Del does have other 8 monitoring sites in the world:

http://www.nmdb.eu/?q=node/481

[Wind]

Wow, so that definitely confirms my suspicions.

[Sidney]

I am still w/o internet at home so havent been on here but i wanted to chime in here as i too was terribly nauseas yeaterday and off the charts fatigued and i kept dropping things all day lo.g. cant be a coincidence.

[Fairy Friend]

You confirmed my suspicions too. Saw this go offline last night but since it was behind the Sun I wasn't sure what to think about it but I was sure feeling something coming through. A heads up signal. Wow that was a pulse of energy.

[Fairy Friend]

Again I feel a wave of nausea and we just had a little bit of energy from the Sun.

[Nick Matkin]

Regarding the graphic in post 2229 above, how can cosmic rays - which by their very nature come from the cosmos and hit most of one side of the earth at once - have such a localised effect on just one station's monitoring equipment, unless they were somehow locally generated?

Looks to me like an equipment glitch, so I doubt any feelings of nausea are related to this event.

Nick

[MorningSong]

Update from spaceweather.com:


MOSTLY QUIET WITH A CHANCE OF FLARES: With a profusion of new sunspots peppering the solar disk, the sun is starting to look as it should during Solar Max. The question is, when will it begin to act as it should? Solar activity remains low for the third week in a row. Further discussion follows today's Solar Dynamics Observatory white light image of the sun, with "active regions" circled:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/29jul14/lookslike_strip2.gif

Two of these sunspots, AR2126 (S10W11) and AR2127 (S08E62), have magnetic fields that harbor energy for significant solar flares. So far, however, they seem dis-inclined to erupt, and so more quiet is in the offing as the week unfolds. NOAA forecasters estimate a 15% chance of M-flares and a 15% chance of X-flares during the next 24 hours.

[Wind]

Regarding the graphic in post 2229 above, how can cosmic rays - which by their very nature come from the cosmos and hit most of one side of the earth at once - have such a localised effect on just one station's monitoring equipment, unless they were somehow locally generated?

Looks to me like an equipment glitch, so I doubt any feelings of nausea are related to this event.

Nick

I don't know the answer to that questin, but how many times can such devices "glitch", in several different places? This has happened tens of times during the past year. I don't think it's a coincidence. Maybe the cosmic rays could affect different places.

[Violet]

I am still w/o internet at home so havent been on here but i wanted to chime in here as i too was terribly nauseas yeaterday and off the charts fatigued and i kept dropping things all day lo.g. cant be a coincidence.

I had problems with the satellite receiver today, with no visible weather causes at the root of it.

It was a dense day: there was barely sun, the humidity was good (50-60 ish), it was not raining, though it looked like it was coming, round noon here locally. It was not too hot, and still, somehow: it was a warm day with a tension to it.

[Fairy Friend]

Lots of coincidences going on.

[Sidney]

I moved and internet has.just not been installed yet. But i have a very heavy feeling again today. Feels like typical solar energy symptoms,although yesterday was exceptionally intense. The dropsies were aweful. I have never experienced anything quite like it before. I mean i just kept dropping things. Probably fifty times throughout the day.. free entertainment for my daughter..lol

[MorningSong]

New from spaceweather.com:


DARK FILAMENT ON THE SUN: As the sunspot number rebounds from a deep low in mid-July, the chance of flares is increasing, too. However, the biggest threat for a flare today might not be a sunspot at all. Instead, our attention turns to a long dark filament of magnetism:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/30jul14/filament_strip.jpg

Astrophotograher Jack Newton photographed the structure on July 29th from his observatory in Osoyoos, British Columbia. Stretching more than 100,000 km from end to end, and filled with dense plasma, the sinuous filament is held aloft by solar magnetic fields. If it snaps or collapses and hits the stellar surface below, the result could be a Hyder flare--a type of explosion that does not require a sunspot.

NOAA forecasters estimate an increasing 25% chance of M-flares and a small but non-negligible 5% chance of X-flares on July 30th.

Sunspot number has grown rapidly:


http://spaceweather.com/images2014/30jul14/hmi200.gif

Sunspots AR2126, AR2127 and AR2130 have complex magnetic fields that harbor energy for M-class solar flares. Credit: SDO/HMI

[Nick Matkin]

I don't know the answer to that question, but how many times can such devices "glitch", in several different places? This has happened tens of times during the past year. I don't think it's a coincidence. Maybe the cosmic rays could affect different places.

We have lots of glitches on all kinds of technical equipment here. One of my colleagues saw this thread and was gobsmacked at how people can associate minor solar disturbances with feeling 'weird', or their wi-fi or smart phones not working properly, so she has just completed a survey and made an amazing discovery: The technical problems and staff members 'feeling tired' correlate very closely to the number of dogs that s*hit on or near our driveway.

So come on folks, understand the difference between correlation and causation - it's very important.

(In the unlikely event that there is any confusion between these two terms, this link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2640550/Does-sour-cream-cause-bike-accidents-No-looks-like-does-Graphs-reveal-statistics-produce-false-connections.html) clearly explains for the layman.)

Regards,

Nick

Who is feeling a bit grumpy today after stepping in dog poo. (Is that causation or correlation; mmm, let me think about that one...)

[Wind]

We just had C9.0 flare, it's really nothing, but still it's the biggest one in a while. Fairy Friend was predicting something like this earlier. I don't think that we should dismiss the effects of space weather, even the slightest changes can and will affect us. Some are just able to sense it more easily.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/v7h205.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2q0t45s.jpg

[Fairy Friend]

I am NOT surprised to see a filament eruption the way everyone was feeling. Not the first time, won't be the last. The proof is in the pudding. This woke me up even. So I could see her pop. I have a lot of pudding. Didn't quite make M class but I was close especially since there hasn't been one for a while. Right now I feel relief.

[Fairy Friend]

I don't know the answer to that question, but how many times can such devices "glitch", in several different places? This has happened tens of times during the past year. I don't think it's a coincidence. Maybe the cosmic rays could affect different places.

We have lots of glitches on all kinds of technical equipment here. One of my colleagues saw this thread and was gobsmacked at how people can associate minor solar disturbances with feeling 'weird', or their wi-fi or smart phones not working properly, so she has just completed a survey and made an amazing discovery: The technical problems and staff members 'feeling tired' correlate very closely to the number of dogs that s*hit on or near our driveway.

So come on folks, understand the difference between correlation and causation - it's very important.

(In the unlikely event that there is any confusion between these two terms, this link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2640550/Does-sour-cream-cause-bike-accidents-No-looks-like-does-Graphs-reveal-statistics-produce-false-connections.html) clearly explains for the layman.)

Regards,

Nick

Who is feeling a bit grumpy today after stepping in dog poo. (Is that causation or correlation; mmm, let me think about that one...)
just FYI dogs tend to poop in alignment with the magnetic field with the sun to the back, facing north or south. Published in the journal Frontiers of Zoology.

[MorningSong]

Ladies, (Wind, Sidney, Fairy Friend, et el)....some times in the past I have jumped on (verbally) folks not posting specifically scientific "stuff" on the "Sun" threads that I had started here on Avalon.... I no longer do that, as you obviously have noticed....

I, too, confess to be quite meteophobic, be it earth weather or space weather.... I just don't "talk" about it much... and the realization that my condition even exists is usually after-the-fact (changes in barametric pressure, wind, CME's, electromagnetics (natural or artificial), solar wind, etc) althought the foreshadowing "symptoms" are very very real... it's like "Oh, that's why....! Damn, when am I going to start paying attention?!"

Anyone who might be interested in why I follow the Sun so closely might also like to read about the Charlotte King Effect... I can feel it (the sun).

http://www.tnetimes.com/article/597-predicting-earthquakes-charlotte-king-effect-diane-gremmel-project-migraine-library-congress-oregon-sound-whale-gift-symptoms-KATU-thomas-brown-predictions-correct-investigate-study-studies-/

This is interesting, too:

http://www.carliniinstitute.com/how_recent_solar_flares_are_affecting_us

Then believe what you will... those who experience it know... period.

Nick, sweetheart, I think it's a "woman" thing.... but we need your level-headed male presence here, too!

[Fairy Friend]

Even the pain can be a signal especially I've noticed it before a filament eruption. But my belief is most people can do this, they simply don't tune into it and tune out instead. My teeth started hurting and I knew we're going to have a second little pop following this one. A burst of intense energy following it. Some people are indeed quite sensitive and simply feel it. At the beginning I thought this was all about feelings and didn't realize that there were a lot of data on many different levels here. I love data.The sun is great.

[MorningSong]

Here's what spaceweather.com is saying about the filament lift-off:


INCOMING STORM CLOUD: Yesterday, July 30th, a dark magnetic filament on the sun erupted and hurled part of itself into space. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory tracked a bright CME moving away from the blast site at 700 km/s:

http://spaceweather.com/images2014/31jul14/cme_strip2.gif

Although the CME is not coming straight for Earth, it does have an Earth-directed component. Computer models suggest it will deliver a glancing blow to Earth's magnetic field on August 2nd. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance of polar geomagnetic storms when the storm cloud arrives.

[Fairy Friend]

finally got the M Class flare The Sun has been quiet so long.

[Wind]

Yup, "A moderate M2.5 flare event was observed around region 2130 at 11:14 UTC Thursday morning. This is the first M-Flare since July 10th. More updates to follow if a coronal mass ejection (CME) happens to be associated with this event. Region 2130 continues to move into a better geoeffective position."

[Fairy Friend]

Ok I think I've got the prior filament eruption video.DLCBFr0C0d0