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loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 02:29

AS THE ANNIVESARY OF 9/11 IS UPON US.........Time to refresh and bring to the table old and new information so we can still educate the masses. The key to undoing this evil cabel is the truth about 9/11. Please add to this thread any vital information that you wish to share.

9/11 Truth: Hollywood Speaks Out (FULL LENGTH FILM)
This film should be viewed as a whole body of work, as it is NOT about the life, career or CREDIBILTY of any one perticular Hollywood Celebrity.

Celebrities do have the right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH and are free to verbally express their own opinion (so long as it doesn't cause personal injury to others). If I wanted RESPECTABILTY, I would have made a boring film about the dozen or so ACADEMICALLY ACCREDITED scientests who have actually tested the World Trade Center dust and found UN-EXPLODED military grade NANO-THERMITE.

This film is about Hollywood's GUT FEELING that something is just not right, and the dozens of UNANSWERED QUESTIONS they have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rw397VbRyM&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rw397VbRyM&feature=youtu.be

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 03:31

Paul Laffoley one of the architects of the twin towers is interviewed by FreemanTV

Twin Tower architect, Paul Laffoley, talks with Freeman about the demolition charges in the buildings and the Bin Laden's construction company who were involved in the design. Yamasuki the main architect was directly involved with the Bin Laden's construction company in Saudi Arabia. They were the right hand men to Yamasuki. 33.02 in the video they speak out the explosives.

What Mr. Laffoley said regarding the Twin Towers is mindblowing. . The Bin Ladens were involved, unbelievable?

20.00 onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbWr4sAVvls

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 04:54

Charles Giuliani has written 20 mostly-self-published books on subjects ranging from alternative science to history, politics and theology and two book on 9/11. He hosts a radio show called TRUTH HERTZ in which he interviews many important whilstleblowers and many others of great interest who have something explosive to say.

The following are copies of his shows on 9/11

The outrageous, criminally negligent response on 9-11. Part 1
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-25_16k.mp3

The outrageous, criminally negligent response on 9-11, Part 2.
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-26_16k.mp3

The outrageous, criminally negligent response on 9-11, Part 3
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-29_16k.mp3

The 2011 Japan quake, Part 2. Second hour: "Ignored" prior 9/11 warnings
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-18_16k.mp3

"Ignored" prior 9/11 warnings, Part 2.
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-22_16k.mp3

"Ignored" prior 9/11 warnings, Part 3.
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-23_16k.mp3

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 05:06

These are radio interviews by Bob Tuskin

Darren Craddock of Enerfood and Dean Hartwell on Fake 9/11 Passengers
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Intel_Hub/Intel_Hub.2011-03-21_16k.mp3

lst hour - Susan Lindauer on Libyan War/Drug Running.
During the 2nd hour we were joined by controversial figure Dr. Judy Wood on 9/11
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Intel_Hub/Intel_Hub.2011-03-20_16k.mp3

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Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Supporter,

My name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am a medical student. Throughout my rigorous undergraduate science and medical science coursework, I have had the privilege of receiving extensive training in the process of scientific analysis and evidence-based thinking.

I am writing to you today not only as a medical student, but also as a concerned American citizen, to ask for your help with something very important.

Have you heard of Dr. Judy Wood? Did you know she has been researching 9/11 since 2001 and has already filed several law suits against NIST and Congress demanding a new investigation and requesting that NIST’s false data gets reexamined? Surprisingly, Dr. Steven Jones has not supported Dr. Wood’s legal attempts to push for 9/11 Truth. Dr. Judy Wood has received many threats due to the research she has done and evidence she has gathered, and 2 of her friends that were involved in Cold Fusion / Free Energy research were murdered. In contrast, Dr. Steven Jones has not filed any such law suits, nor has he filed his nano-thermite findings with Congress or NIST.

I. Dr. Judy Wood has already filed several legal cases against NIST and many suspected military / defense / weapons organizations in 2007, including Data Quality Analysis (DQA), Request For Correction (RFC), and Qui Tam (whistle-blower) cases. She is actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Jones and his followers. One of the many reasons I believe that Dr. Jones may be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement is because Dr. Jones has not filed his nano-thermite findings with NIST or with Congress, when he should have done so long ago if he truly wished to further the 9/11 Truth Movement. The many legal documents Dr. Judy Wood has filed in her pursuit of 9/11 Truth can be observed here:

1. www.drjudywood.com...
2. www.drjudywood.com...

II. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group a while ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. Dr. Wood has gathered overwhelming evidence suggesting that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to vaporize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the buildings into dust, while leaving paper, aluminum, and many other materials completely unharmed. She has collected an overwhelming amount of photographic evidence which led to this conclusion, yet Dr. Jones disagrees with her so strongly that he decided to ban her from the group.

III. It is important to consider the fact that Dr. Wood has actively been taking legal steps and scientific steps to pursue 9/11 Truth, yet Dr. Jones has banned her from his Scholars for 9/11 Truth group and has not supported her costly legal efforts to bring about a new 9/11 investigation. They both should be working together, but instead, Dr. Jones speaks negatively of Dr. Wood because he disagrees with her conclusions, even though her conclusions are strongly supported by evidence.

IV. After reviewing this evidence, it seems very possible to me that Dr. Steven Jones is pushing the nano-thermite theory to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement down a false path to prevent us from finding out the true criminals behind 9/11, and the true cause of 9/11, which is related to Cold Fusion, Free Energy, and Directed Energy Weapons. Yes, the nano-thermite theory does account for some of the evidence, but it most certainly does not account for all of it.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

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VI. Dr. Judy Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bi-material joints. She has taught courses including: Experimental Stress Analysis, Engineering Mechanics, Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials), Strength of Materials Testing.

3. Dr. Judy Wood’s website: www.drjudywood.com...

VII. Please review the following evidence regarding Dr. Steven Jones, so that you can become familiar with all of the evidence that has led myself, and many others, to conclude that Dr. Steven Jones is purposely misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement. First he interfered with the Cold Fusion / Free Energy movement, and now it seems he is interfering with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please review these links thoroughly, and with an open-mind, before drawing any conclusions:

1. ‘Hoax exposes incompetence or worse at a Bentham Open Access journal’: www.earlham.edu...

2. ‘Bentham Open editor-in-chief resigns after fake paper is accepted for publication’: www.earlham.edu...

3. ‘A Peer-review of Dr. Jones’s Research’: nomoregames.net...

4. ‘The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis’: drjudywood.com...

5. ‘Steven Jones' Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet’: www.drjudywood.com...

6. ‘WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?’ www.checktheevidence.co.uk...

7. ‘Thermite and Glowing Liquid Aluminum’ drjudywood.com...

8. ‘Steven Jones, Cold Fusion, & Free Energy’: drjudywood.com...

9. ‘Steven Jones and the WTC “Spire” video’ (2min 35sec): www.youtube.com...

10. ‘No Thermite Used on 9/11’ by Andrew Johnson: 911thermitefree.blogspot.com...

VIII. Here are some important questions to ask ourselves when comparing the conclusions of Dr. Steve Jones versus Dr. Judy Wood:

• How come steel and concrete were pulverized, but paper and aluminum were unharmed? Nano-thermite and heat do not selectively pulverize certain materials.

• How come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero, out of the reach of falling building debris, experienced metal warping and electricity-like burns and holes during the attacks, even though they were not exposed to thermite?

• How come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero, out of the reach of building debris, were flipped upside down or on their side?

• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come there are many reports of power outages and electrical failures in the areas surrounding ground zero during the attacks?

• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, where is all the molten steel? Thousands of pictures, yet not a single one shows large quantities of molten steel?

• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come the resulting steel and concrete dust clouds were not hot enough to burn the people it coated nor to set adjacent buildings on fire?

• If thermite alone caused the ‘collapses’, how come there was significant magnetosphere readings in Alaska at the very same time of the 9/11 attacks?

• Why was the Alaskan magnetosphere normal until immediately before and during the 9/11 attacks, when there was suddenly a huge surge in electromagnetic activity?

• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come several cars were flipped upside down as a result of the attacks?

• How come Dr. Wood has already filed several legal cases against suspected 9/11-involved defense and weapons companies and NIST, yet Dr. Jones has not?

• How come Dr. Wood has already been taking legal steps towards demanding a new 9/11 investigation, yet Dr. Jones does not support her legal efforts?

• How come Dr. Jones has not officially filed or shared his nano-thermite evidence with Congress, NIST, or any official governmental body? Why the delay?

• Why is Dr. Jones just now claiming to be “pursuing a new 9/11 investigation” when Dr. Judy Wood has already filed many legal cases to pursue such an investigation, one which made it to the Supreme Court?

• Why isn’t Dr. Jones and his affiliates supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal efforts to pursue 9/11 Truth, regardless of whether or not they agree on a theory?

• Why did Dr. Jones ban Dr. Wood from his ‘Scholars for 9/11 Truth’ group just because they had different conclusions about what destroyed the towers?

• Shouldn’t we all be supporting the 9/11 investigation that Dr. Judy Wood has already demanded with her legal cases, even if we do not agree with her conclusions?

• Why was I removed from the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition simply for asking Richard Gage to examine the research of Dr. Judy Wood?

• I have donated over $100 to AE911Truth, so why was I silently removed from the petition simply for bringing up Dr. Judy Wood to Richard Gage?

IX. Either Dr. Steven Jones is lying, or Dr. Judy Wood is lying. One of them is misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, and the evidence points to Dr. Steven Jones. After thoroughly researching both of their stories and all of the evidence presented by both parties, I honestly believe that it is most likely Dr. Jones that is lying, and that he is using his fame and credentials to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement in the wrong direction to prevent us from supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal actions and taking legal action of our own, to ultimately prevent us from finding out the true cause of 9/11 and the true criminals responsible for the attacks.

jackovesk

7th September 2011, 05:15

DISCLAIMER:

This film should be viewed as a whole body of work, as it is NOT about the life, career or CREDIBILTY of any one perticular Hollywood Celebrity.

Celebrities do have the right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH and are free to verbally express their own opinion (so long as it doesn't cause personal injury to others). If I wanted RESPECTABILTY, I would have made a boring film about the dozen or so ACADEMICALLY ACCREDITED scientests who have actually tested the World Trade Center dust and found UN-EXPLODED military grade NANO-THERMITE.

This film is about Hollywood's GUT FEELING that something is just not right, and the dozens of UNANSWERED QUESTIONS they have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rw397VbRyM&feature=youtu.be

PS - Excellent Documentary, well worth watching..!

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 05:21

Dr. Greg Jenkins Interviews Dr. Judy Wood

Part 1

This is the FULL, 'unedited' interview of Dr Judy Wood by Dr Greg Jenkins.
(Part 1 of 3)

The reason for this upload is not to discredit either Dr Judy Wood or Dr Greg Jenkins but is to provide viewers with a perspective currently not shown on Youtube.
Several claims have been made on the Internet that Dr Jenkins was using 'ambush' techniques and that Dr Wood was simply caught 'off-guard' during this interview but I have also uploaded this to let viewers/listeners judge for themselves.

Playlist showing the interview in its entirety :
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayc2469#grid/user/E10201ABD58E7253

Dr. Judy Wood is the 'scientist' that made claims that 'Directed Energy Weapons' demolished the world trade centre towers.

Dr. Greg Jenkins, a physicist, poses fundamental questions to Dr. Wood regarding her research. The full interview was left uncut to allow the viewer to fully and accurately assess the credibility of Dr. Judy Wood to see what she has to say about her claims without it being biassed in favour of either Wood or Jenkins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZrj0leylc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZrj0leylc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGXojifyD4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGXojifyD4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9HpE6QHCY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9HpE6QHCY&feature=related

Referee

7th September 2011, 05:25

This is a great video about Philip Zelikow who authored a book before 911 called, Why People Don't Trust the Government. He outlined the 911 commission report before 911 was investigated.

From Wikpedia

Why people don't trust government( Book )
6 editions published in 1997 in English and held by 1,011 libraries worldwide
"Bringing together essays by leading Harvard scholars, this book explores the roots of mistrust. It first examines government's current scope, its actual performance, and citizens' perceptions of its performance. It then assesses many possible explanations that have been offered for the decline of trust, including the end of the Cold War, elevated expectations following World War II, a weakened economy, the effects of globalization, resentment over political scandals, and incompetence of bureaucrats."--Cover.

Philip Zelikow

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loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 05:29

Dancing Israelis on 9/11
Listen at the end. They say "Our purpose was to document the event". But how did they know there was going to BE an event?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 05:31

Jacko..........beat you to it. It is in the 9/11 ANNIVERSAY THREAD. Maybe ask for a merge.

Syl

7th September 2011, 05:38

ooh, defenitely gonna check this one out when I get back from work.

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 05:41

Did Israel do 9/11 - Zion Crime Factory

Well, someone seems to have connected the dots...according to this webpage, Israel did 9/11.

Let me follow with 41 points posted by a fellow by the name of Carl Olsen:

Here's 40 facts to get you started. I already linked to this, but once again, it's at:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

THE DAY ITSELF - EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies - NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation''s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?

THE DAY - POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See "The Case for Demolitions," the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)

FOREKNOWLEDGE & THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS

8) What did officials know? How did they know it?
a. Multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the "Big Wedding"), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.
b. Various individuals came into possession of specific advance knowledge, and some of them tried to warn the US prior to September 11th.
c. Certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.

9) Able Danger, Plus - Surveillance of Alleged Hijackers
a. The men identified as the 9/11 ringleaders were under surveillance for years beforehand, on the suspicion they were terrorists, by a variety of US and allied authorities - including the CIA, the US military''s "Able Danger" program, the German authorities, Israeli intelligence and others.
b. Two of the alleged ringleaders who were known to be under surveillance by the CIA also lived with an FBI asset in San Diego, but this is supposed to be yet another coincidence.

10) Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers - as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the "Phoenix Memo," David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration''s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the "Bojinka" plot, and John O''Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in The 9/11 Commission Report.)

11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.
b. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks.
c. Initial reports on these trades were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).

12) Who were the perpetrators?
a. Much of the evidence establishing who did the crime is dubious and miraculous: bags full of incriminating material that happened to miss the flight or were left in a van; the "magic passport" of an alleged hijacker, found at Ground Zero; documents found at motels where the alleged perpetrators had stayed days and weeks before 9/11.
b. The identities of the alleged hijackers remain unresolved, there are contradictions in official accounts of their actions and travels, and there is evidence several of them had "doubles," all of which is omitted from official investigations.
c. What happened to initial claims by the government that 50 people involved in the attacks had been identified, including the 19 alleged hijackers, with 10 still at large (suggesting that 20 had been apprehended)? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-worldtrade-50suspects...

THE 9/11 COVER-UP, 2001-2006

13) Who Is Osama Bin Ladin?
a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department''s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the "data base" (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?

14) All the Signs of a Systematic 9/11 Cover-up
a. Airplane black boxes were found at Ground Zero, according to two first responders and an unnamed NTSB official, but they were "disappeared" and their existence is denied in The 9/11 Commission Report.
b. US officials consistently suppressed and destroyed evidence (like the tapes recorded by air traffic controllers who handled the New York flights).
c. Whistleblowers (like Sibel Edmonds and Anthony Shaffer) were intimidated, gagged and sanctioned, sending a clear signal to others who might be thinking about speaking out.
d. Officials who "failed" (like Myers and Eberhard, as well as Frasca, Maltbie and Bowman of the FBI) were given promotions.

15) Poisoning New York
The White House deliberately pressured the EPA into giving false public assurances that the toxic air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe. This knowingly contributed to an as-yet unknown number of health cases and fatalities, and demonstrates that the administration does consider the lives of American citizens to be expendable on behalf of certain interests.

16) Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics. (See also item no. 23, below.)

17) Anthrax
Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax - which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations - were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)?

18) The Stonewall
a. Colin Powell promised a "white paper" from the State Department to establish the authorship of the attacks by al-Qaeda. This was never forthcoming, and was instead replaced by a paper from Tony Blair, which presented only circumstantial evidence, with very few points actually relating to September 11th.
b. Bush and Cheney pressured the (freshly-anthraxed) leadership of the Congressional opposition into delaying the 9/11 investigation for months. The administration fought against the creation of an independent investigation for more than a year.
c. The White House thereupon attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger as the chief investigator, and acted to underfund and obstruct the 9/11 Commission.

19) A Record of Official Lies
a. "No one could have imagined planes into buildings" - a transparent falsehood upheld repeatedly by Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush.
b. "Iraq was connected to 9/11" - The most "outrageous conspiracy theory" of all, with the most disastrous impact.

20) Pakistani Connection - Congressional Connection
a. The Pakistani intelligence agency ISI, creator of the Taliban and close ally to both the CIA and "al-Qaeda," allegedly wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta just prior to September 11th, reportedly through the ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh (later arrested for the killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was investigating ISI connections to "al-Qaeda.")
b. This was ignored by the congressional 9/11 investigation, although the senator and congressman who ran the probe (Bob Graham and Porter Goss) were meeting with the ISI chief, Mahmud Ahmed, on Capitol Hill on the morning of September 11th.
c. About 25 percent of the report of the Congressional Joint Inquiry was redacted, including long passages regarding how the attack (or the network allegedly behind it) was financed. Graham later said foreign allies were involved in financing the alleged terror network, but that this would only come out in 30 years.

21) Unanswered Questions and the "Final Fraud" of the 9/11 Commission:
a. The September 11th families who fought for and gained an independent investigation (the 9/11 Commission) posed 400-plus questions, which the 9/11 Commission adopted as its roadmap. The vast majority of these questions were completely ignored in the Commission hearings and the final report.
b. The membership and staff of the 9/11 Commission displayed awesome conflicts of interest. The families called for the resignation of Executive Director Philip Zelikow, a Bush administration member and close associate of "star witness" Condoleezza Rice, and were snubbed. Commission member Max Cleland resigned, condemning the entire exercise as a "scam" and "whitewash."
c.The 9/11 Commission Report is notable mainly for its obvious omissions, distortions and outright falsehoods - ignoring anything incompatible with the official story, banishing the issues to footnotes, and even dismissing the still-unresolved question of who financed 9/11 as being "of little practical significance."

22) Crown Witnesses Held at Undisclosed Locations
The alleged masterminds of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM) and Ramzi Binalshibh, are reported to have been captured in 2002 and 2003, although one Pakistani newspaper said KSM was killed in an attempted capture. They have been held at undisclosed locations and their supposed testimonies, as provided in transcript form by the government, form much of the basis for The 9/11 Commission Report (although the Commission''s request to see them in person was denied). After holding them for years, why doesn''t the government produce these men and put them to trial?

23) Spitzer Redux
a. Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of New York State, snubbed pleas by New York citizens to open 9/11 as a criminal case (Justicefor911.org).
b. Spitzer also refused to allow his employee, former 9/11 Commission staff member Dietrich Snell, to testify to the Congress about his (Snell''s) role in keeping "Able Danger" entirely out of The 9/11 Commission Report.

24) NIST Omissions
After the destruction of the WTC structural steel, the official Twin Towers collapse investigation was left with almost no forensic evidence, and thus could only provide dubious computer models of ultimately unprovable hypotheses. It failed to even test for the possibility of explosives. (Why not clear this up?)

25) Radio Silence
The 9/11 Commission and NIST both allowed the continuing cover-up of how Motorola''s faulty radios, purchased by the Giuliani administration, caused firefighter deaths at the WTC - once again showing the expendability, even of the first responders.

26) The Legal Catch-22
a. Hush Money - Accepting victims'' compensation barred September 11th families from pursuing discovery through litigation.
b. Judge Hallerstein - Those who refused compensation to pursue litigation and discovery had their cases consolidated under the same judge (and as a rule dismissed).

27) Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the "Bin Ladin Airlift" during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.

28) Media Blackout of Prominent Doubters
The official story has been questioned and many of the above points were raised by members of the US Congress, retired high-ranking officers of the US military, the three leading third-party candidates for President in the 2004 election, a member of the 9/11 Commission who resigned in protest, a former high-ranking adviser to the George W. Bush administration, former ministers to the German, British and Canadian governments, the commander-in-chief of the Russian air force, 100 luminaries who signed the "9/11 Truth Statement," and the presidents of Iran and Venezuela. Not all of these people agree fully with each other, but all would normally be considered newsworthy. Why has the corporate-owned US mass media remained silent about these statements, granting due coverage only to the comments of actor Charlie Sheen?

GEOPOLITICS, TIMING AND POSSIBLE MOTIVES

29) "The Great Game"
The Afghanistan invasion was ready for Bush''s go-ahead on September 9, 2001, with US and UK force deployments to the region already in place or underway. This followed the failure earlier that year of backdoor diplomacy with the Taliban (including payments of $125 million in US government aid to Afghanistan), in an attempt to secure a unity government for that country as a prerequisite to a Central Asian pipeline deal.

30) The Need for a "New Pearl Harbor"
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the "Project for a New American Century," and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of "regime change." After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.

31) Perpetual "War on Terror"
9/11 is supposed to provide carte-blanche for an open-ended, global and perpetual "War on Terror," against any enemy, foreign or domestic, that the executive branch chooses to designate, and regardless of whether evidence exists to actually connect these enemies to 9/11.

32) Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the "Shadow Government" were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to "render" such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.

33) Legal Trillions
9/11 triggers a predictable shift of public spending to war, and boosts public and private spending in the "new" New Economy of "Homeland Security," biometrics, universal surveillance, prisons, civil defense, secured enclaves, security, etc.

34) Plundered Trillions?
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a "war on waste" after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. On September 11th, this was as good as forgotten.

35) Did 9/11 prevent a stock market crash?
Did anyone benefit from the destruction of the Securities and Exchange Commission offices at WTC 7, and the resultant crippling of hundreds of fraud investigations?

36) Resource Wars
a. What was discussed in the Energy Task Force meetings under Dick Cheney in 2001? Why is the documentation of these meetings still being suppressed?
b. Is Peak Oil a motive for 9/11 as inside job?

37) The "Little Game"
Why was the WTC privatized just before its destruction?

HISTORY

38) "Al-CIA-da?"
The longstanding relationship between US intelligence networks and radical Islamists, including the network surrounding Osama Bin Ladin. (See also point 13d.)

39) Historical Precedents for "Synthetic Terror"
a. In the past many states, including the US government, have sponsored attacks on their own people, fabricated the "cause for war," created (and armed) their own enemies of convenience, and sacrificed their own citizens for "reasons of state."
b. Was 9/11 an update of the Pentagon-approved "Project Northwoods" plan for conducting self-inflicted, false-flag terror attacks in the United States, and blaming them on a foreign enemy?

40) Secret Government
a. The record of criminality and sponsorship of coups around the world by the covert networks based within the US intelligence complex.
b. Specifically also: The evidence of crime by Bush administration principals and their associates, from October Surprise to Iran-Contra and the S&L plunder to PNAC, Enron/Halliburton and beyond.

REASON NUMBER 41:
RELATED MOVEMENTS AND PARALLEL ISSUES

Ground Zero aftermath movements:
- Justice for the air-poisoning cover-up (wtceo.org)
- "Radio Silence" (radiosilencefdny.com)
- Skyscraper Safety (www.skyscrapersafety.org).

Election fraud and black box voting, 2000 to 2004. (BlackBoxVoting.org)

Lies to justify the invasion of Iraq. (afterdowningstreet.org)

Use of depleted uranium and its multi-generational consequences on human health and the environment.

Longstanding development of contingency plans for civil disturbance and military rule in the USA (See, "The War at Home")

Oklahoma City Truth movement. (Offline, but not forgotten - May 9, 2008!)

Whether you call it "Globalization" or "The New World Order" - An unsustainable system of permanent growth ultimately requires warfare, fraud, and mass manipulation.

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 06:26

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 06:45

Interview with Chris Holmes of www.zeropoint.ca re: 9/11 alternative theory.

Chris is a foresenic pychologist who has analyzed many of the calls made that day on 9/11. These are shocking relevations that a lot of the phone calls were scripted by people in the media industry. This info and more. A MUST LISTEN

http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?stream=/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-09-06_16k.mp3

ThePythonicCow

7th September 2011, 07:35

PS - Excellent Documentary, well worth watching..!

Jacko..........beat you to it. It is in the 9/11 ANNIVERSAY THREAD. Maybe ask for a merge.

I merged the two threads, but left a link behind for the next couple weeks, as jackovesk's thread title and introduction to this Documentary provides another good entry into this material.

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 08:40

Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE)

So many 9/11 witnesses or people who would seem to have knowledge of the cover up have been mysteriously dying. This all can't be a coincidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU&feature=related

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 08:49

U.S. Cameraman has Proof 9/11 was a Lie

An American cameraman who says September 11 was a lie is facing extradition from Argentina to the United States on alleged murder charges. Kurt Sonnenfeld, a man who was provided provisory refugee status seven years ago, is now wanted by the US government on murder charges. He is the only cameraman that filmed crucial images of Ground Zero in New York after the Twin Towers collapsed.

Sonnenfeld, who lives in Buenos Aires with his Argentine family, says the footage proves that 9/11 was a lie. He still has the 22-hour footage that US authorities want.

"I have promised to give my footage to the big investigators that are credible and widely known - investigators who will be able to detect anomalies that I or other people without scientific education might miss. With that in mind, I hope that there are many things they can discover that disprove the current official story of what happened," Sonnenfeld told a Press TV correspondent.

He says he fears for his life if he is sent back to the United States to face trial. The Denver police have claimed they have evidence that show he killed his first wife in the US.

Social activists who are campaigning for Sonnenfeld to be given refugee status in Argentina say the Denver police are lying. The Sonnenfelds say they have been under police surveillance and that their phone has been tapped.

Sonnenfeld claims that his footage proves top US government officials were aware of the 2001 terrorist attacks before they occurred says he is a victim of a US plot to silence him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6yEezSDV8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6yEezSDV8&feature=related

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 08:58

9/11 Classroom MEGA RITUAL
This video highlights the 9/11 classroom scene and shows the timing and control utilized in this part of the ritual.
RITUAL SACRIFICE
Subliminal techniques
THE ONE EYE of HORUS ending with the ONE EYE OF HORUS
It is a RIGHT eye NOT a left eye - this means it links to the LEFT Brain not to the RIGHT Brain!
This means the 911 DRILL that started at 08.30 & the 911 "EVENT" was done with LOGIC & ANALYSIS & with clear PLANNING!
As opposed to using Spiritual energy, it used MATERIAL energy - linked to the highest levels of FREEMASONRY - where members of Senior FREEMASONRY are known as the "ILLUMINATI" - the Cult or Religion of LUCIFER = the DEVIL! [Read: Morals & Dogma by Albert PIKE (33rd - SGIG), p. 321]

It is known that GW BUSH ("3:22")(as in Genesis 3:22)("43") was a member of Skull & Bones & a FREEMASON [as was his father as Marvin BUSH - SECURACOM - in charge of 911 Airport Security & 911 WTC Building Security!] In addition to being a member of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS of New York - controlled by David ROCKEFELLER of 146 East 65 Street, New York, NY 10021!

Dick CHENEY was/is a Freemason in addition to being a member of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS of New York - controlled by David ROCKEFELLER of 146 East 65 Street, New York, NY 10021! Indeed he was Director for many years when ROCKEFELLER was Chairman but he managed to successfully DECEIVE his electorate of WYOMING - thinking it was funny that he was able to HOODWINK ALL the electorate of WYOMING!

DEVIOUSLY CLEVER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVB0XLus_zU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVB0XLus_zU&feature=related

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 09:19

No Windows on Flight 175

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRC4lCQuBmc&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRC4lCQuBmc&NR=1

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 09:25

Bush saw the first plane BUSH IS A LIAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxh-XpwwU2Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxh-XpwwU2Y&feature=related

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 10:49

The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq What if the government decided to invent a great lie to sell a disastrous war and a questionable anti-terrorism policy? What would happen to the Assets who know the truth? Former CIA Asset, Susan Lindauer, provides an extraordinary first-hand experience. PRISON for telling the truth about 9/11. Her book EXTREME PREJUDICE Tells all. A MUST READ - http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/tag/susan-lindauer/

This radio interview is Susan Lindauer & Michae Herzhog l talk about missing 911 evidence & get some interesting calls regarding trains hauling military equipment in the upper west U.S.

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/americanawakening/americanawakening.2011-08-06_16k.mp3

2 - 1st hour : Michael talks with Mike Jr. about the new Government Paternity form forced on you when you have a child. 2nd hour : A continuance from Wednesday, December 29th program regarding Mossad fingerprints on 9/11.
http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=americanawakening&month=12&year=2010

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/americanawakening/americanawakening.2011-01-03_16k.mp3

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 11:02

Israel and ADL Coverup of 9/11 Exposed
Abe Foxman Acolyte Taken to the Woodshed By Veterans Today

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

(Editor’s note: Consider this a lesson plan for anyone confronted with an ADL “gatekeeper”)

For the months leading up toward this disastrous period in Israeli history, the break in relations with Turkey, hundreds of thousands of Israeli Jews demonstrating for real democracy, the flood of evidence tying Israel to 9/11, the UN condemnation of Israel for the Freedom Flotilla killings and the upcoming UN vote on Palestine, Veterans Today Senior Editor, Gordon Duff along with columnist James Fetzer are confronted with what clearly is shown to be a 9/11 “denialist” pretending to be a peace activist.

During a recitation of “talking points” from Abe Foxman’s ADL (Anti-Defamation League), an organization we believe has been tasked with covering up Israel’s involvement in 9/11, total mayhem breaks out. Amid a flood of deflections, accusations of “antisemitism” and outright falsehoods, what can only be considered a clandestine spokeperson for the New World Order is stopped in his tracks:

New Analysis: Global Impact of 9/11 Attacks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nwZS5X7GA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nwZS5X7GA&feature=player_embedded

Note that the video edits out additional charges of “antisemitism’ and references to the “holocaust.” However, enjoy what you are allowed to see.

In retaliation for this confrontation, Abe Foxman of the AntiDefamation League issued a press release yesterday condemning Veterans Today, Gordon Duff, James Fetzer, Alan Sabrosky and Kevin Barrett as “vicious antisemites.”

The real height of hilarity is Foxman and the ADL putting up a page criticizing one of their own front organizations. The real shame about having Foxman hate you is how meaningless it is. Now, if it were Dick Cheney, then you could brag: “The worst person in the world hates me.” With Foxman, all you can say: “The second worst person in the United States hates me.”

(Veterans Today sees the ADL, misnamed the “AntiDefamation League” as an anti-American organization that targets Jews in America with fear mongering and has been repeated tied to acts such as spraypainting synagogues with swastikas and worse.

Their affiliate group, AIPAC, is known to be a spy organization that worked for the Soviet Union against the United States during the Cold War. These aren’t simple “Jews” but rather something extremely sinister, something using much more than propaganda, an organization willing to use violence, particularly against the Jewish people.)

If that were on a T shirt, it would be on the 75% off rack at Bloomingdales in a week.

Our take on all of this?

Shakespeare says it best, as is so often the case:

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

This oft misquoted line from Shakespeare, used in the context we note, makes the point well

If there were any doubt of Israel’s complicity in 9/11, we have put those doubts to rest.

As Abe Foxman pointed out so aptly on his website, www.adl.org, the issues of Israeli involvement in 9/11 must be addressed, not through childish accusations and bad prose, as the ADL is best known for, but extradition, trials and executions.

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 12:23

Mysterious Ball Object Seen Flying Over WTC on 9/11 Part 1 - New Uncovered Footage
This is a must see - A EUREKA MOMENT This video shows what most likely happened. BRILLANT

. I got it from Richard D. Halls website richplanet.net. The footage we have all seen on 9/11 have been edited to hide what really had happened on that. Live uncut footage has been obtained by 9/11 researchers which show a ball like object flying in with great speed flying along side the towers the same time the second plane hit.

I have given a 3 d model to see what the mystery ball does and what it could be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiwBo7gz2C0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiwBo7gz2C0

WhiteFeather

7th September 2011, 12:30

The Truth Comes In 3 Steps:

1. It's Ridiculed
2. It's Violently Opposed
3. Its Accepted

We just may be heading to the 3rd and final step. Thank You OP. The world needs to know the Truth, and this thread is a great vehicle. I appreciate all the effort in research you have put on this post.
Personally, I lost a few friends that day. As for the world, we lost many. The truth will set us free. ~So be it~

Interesting Inside Information on 911 (http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/black_eagle_trust_fund)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT-iLBhWKgo&feature=channel_video_title

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 12:40

Israeli art students in WTC connected to September 11, 2001

Willie Rodriguez, one of the janitors who worked at the WTC and helped save lives that day, was the last person pulled from the rubble and was even recognized by the president for his actions. Aside from experiencing basement and sub-level explosions on 9/11 before the 1st plane hit, he also stated that he did see the art students in the WTC in an email exchange I had with him.

So why is all this information about an innocent art stunt so important, aside from the fact that these individuals had WTC construction passes in 2000 before releasing their book in August of 2001? Because according to the DEA report on the investigation into a separate story of art students in the country penetrating military bases, government agencies and so fourth as a part of a spy ring, 2 names show up in the arrests of over 140 spies that sparked interest for me.

Hanan Serfaty was arrested by DEA agents in connection to the Israeli spy ring. What makes him stand out, is that he was listed as being an art student who was apart of the World Views program, which was in the World Trade Center on floors 90 and 91 in the Lower Manhatten Cultural Council. Although he is not listed by Gelitin as a member of The B-Thing, the listing of the identities of the other 14 students who were on floor 91 at the time was never released to the public, neither was the total list of those involved in the stunt which numbers at a minimum of 6.

It should be noted that 1 member of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council died on 9/11 while working in his studio on the 91st floor. His name appears on the list of those who were in the building when it came down.

Hanan was an "art student" who was a former Israeli military intelligence officer who rented two Hollywood apartments close to the mail drop and apartment of Mohammed Atta and four other hijackers. Serfaty was moving large amounts of cash: he carried bank slips showing more than $100,000 deposited from December 2000 through the first quarter of 2001; other bank slips showed withdrawals for about $80,000 during the same period. Serfaty's apartments, serving as crash pads for at least two other "art students", were located at 4220 Sheridan Street and 701 South 21st Avenue. Lead hijacker Mohammed Atta's mail drop was at 3389 Sheridan Street--approximately 2,700 feet from Serfaty's Sheridan Street apartment. Both Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, the suicide pilot on United Airlines Flight 175, which smashed into World Trade Center 2, lived in a rented apartment at 1818 Jackson Street, some 1,800 feet from Serfaty's South 21st Avenue apartment.

In fact, an improbable series of coincidences emerges from a close reading of the 2001 DEA memo, the 9/11 Commission's staff statements and final report, FBI and Justice Department watch lists, hijacker timelines compiled by major media and statements by local, state and federal law enforcement personnel. In at least six urban centers, suspected Israeli spies and 9/11 hijackers and/or al-Qaeda¬ connected suspects lived and operated near one another, in some cases less than half a mile apart, for various periods during 2001 in the run-up to the attacks. In addition to northern New Jersey and Hollywood, Florida, these centers included Arlington and Fredericksburg, Virginia; Atlanta; Oklahoma City; Los Angeles; and San Diego.

Israeli "art students" also lived close to terror suspects in and around Dallas, Texas. A 25-year-old "art student" named Michael Calmanovic, arrested and questioned by Texas-based DEA officers in April 2001, maintained a mail drop at 3575 North Beltline Road, less than a thousand feet from the 4045 North Beltline Road apartment of Ahmed Khalefa, an FBI terror suspect. Dallas and its environs, especially the town of Richardson, Texas, throbbed with "art student" activity. Richardson is notable as the home of the Holy Land Foundation, an Islamic charity designated as a terrorist funder by the European Union and U.S. government in December 2001. Sources in 2002 told The Forward, in a report unrelated to the question of the "art students", that "Israeli intelligence played a key role in helping the Bush administration to crack down on Islamic charities suspected of funneling money to terrorist groups, most notably the Richardson, Texas-based Holy Land Foundation, last December [2001]". It's plausible that the intelligence prompting the shutdown of the Holy Land Foundation c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4aHtWfeBI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4aHtWfeBI4

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 13:00

Some proof that Israel is responsible for 911, 1/2

Zionism uses terrorism to further their political ambitions.
A Counterpunch article examines unresolved questions over whether Israeli agents were tracking the 9/11 hijackers before September 11th. ABC's 20/20, The Forward, and Salon.com have all covered the story. But where's the follow up? Democracy Now Amy Goodman speaks with article's author Christopher Ketcham; Counterpunch editor Alexander Cockburn, and Marc Perelman, the Forward reporter who did one of the first reports on the story in 2002.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpR2wGDNkcQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpR2wGDNkcQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3t9pkF31wo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3t9pkF31wo

Dennis Leahy

7th September 2011, 14:27

The current video from Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth website (http://www.ae911truth.org/) is good. This is what I'm currently sending to friends and family members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Here is a link (if you want to copy it) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Dennis

EYES WIDE OPEN

7th September 2011, 15:21

edited mistake.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Mysterious Ball Object Seen Flying Over WTC on 9/11 Part 1 - New Uncovered Footage
This is a must see - A EUREKA MOMENT This video shows what most likely happened. BRILLANT

. I got it from Richard D. Halls website richplanet.net. The footage we have all seen on 9/11 have been edited to hide what really had happened on that. Live uncut footage has been obtained by 9/11 researchers which show a ball like object flying in with great speed flying along side the towers the same time the second plane hit.

I have given a 3 d model to see what the mystery ball does and what it could be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiwBo7gz2C0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiwBo7gz2C0

Its a jet.

applejax

7th September 2011, 17:49

pretty interesting in regards to the very first video. never really heard celebs' take on 9/11 after it happened. wow...just wow....

loveandgratitude

7th September 2011, 23:11

OCCULT SYMBOLOGY AND 9/11 NUMBERS

Here are radio shows from MARK PASSIO. As a occultist himself he has a deep understanding of Occult Law and numbers.
All is Love. Fear is Illusion. All beings are Free. Truth can never be destroyed.

http://whatonearthishappening.com/

Mind Control Methodologies, Chaos Sorcery, 9/11 As A Dark Occult Ritual -
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Mark_Passio/Mark_Passio.2011-07-03_16k.mp3

Mind Control Methodologies, Chaos Sorcery, 9/11 As A Dark Occult Ritual
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Mark_Passio/Mark_Passio.2011-07-03_16k.mp3

9/11 Physics Analysis, 9/11 Event As An Inside Job, "Chaos Sorcery"
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Mark_Passio/Mark_Passio.2011-06-26_16k.mp3

Mind Control Methodologies, Chaos Sorcery, Hegelian Dialectic, Problem-Reaction-Solution, 9/11 Inside Job
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Mark_Passio/Mark_Passio.2011-06-19_16k.mp3

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 02:01

Bob Tuskin Radio Show - Featuring 9/11 info with many guests.

First Show In Our Special 9/11 Week Transmissions! Over 5 guests on the false flag terror attack known as 9/11
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Intel_Hub/Intel_Hub.2011-09-05_16k.mp3

Second Show In Our Special 9/11 Week Transmissions - Guests include Mark Anderson, Max Igan, Steve Stars, Bob Bowman And More!
http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?stream=/Intel_Hub/Intel_Hub.2011-09-06_16k.mp3

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 03:37

Did Israel's Mossad Do 9/11?
http://www.realzionistnews.com/ http://thebrothernathanaelfoundation.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bG3Q3bkH_0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bG3Q3bkH_0&feature=player_embedded

bonnyhut

8th September 2011, 03:51

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 03:53

Prabably security asset to say alive no doubt.

bonnyhut

8th September 2011, 03:59

Prabably security asset to say alive no doubt.

Possibly.... but what good is it... ? That information should have been released years and years ago. We now have more than enough solid proof that it was an inside job anyway.
Like Kerry Cassidy says... the best place to hide is out in the open.

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 04:30

They have him on murder charges. If he releases it, he is toast.

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 06:10

9/11 TEN YEARS OF NOT ASKING QUESTIONS

What are you doing about 9/11?
If not, get going. What are you waiting for.
Are you waiting to boil.

TEN YEARS IS TOO LONG FOR AN ANSWER.

9834

PLEASE NOTE IN THE VIDEO BUSH WITH THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN. IS THIS A HINT PERHAPS. THE WORLD IS NOW UNPSIDE DOWN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZiAau6_f0

toothpick

8th September 2011, 09:04

Loveandgratitude, you are definitely a force of one.
Thanks for all your time and effort.
Also thank-you for all the video links.
Tried to add a video but no luck, back to sandbox.

toothpick

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 09:21

Thanks toothpick. I think most are still in the pot waiting to be boiled. What does it take to get people outraged and involved.

USA you get what you put up with.

EYES WIDE OPEN

8th September 2011, 10:03

SEPTEMBER CLUES

Mass brainwashing through the use of TV.

An analysis of the actual TV footage of 911 showing how the 4 big media outlets in America digitally inserted aircraft into the shots of explosions in the buildings. They made some crude errors. Have a look.
http://septemberclues.info/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga89OCTf0jE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga89OCTf0jE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SnawJLMSg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SnawJLMSg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-XlEb_U5U&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-XlEb_U5U&feature=related

Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UchCRAR7tc&feature=related

Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFgZCLbY2Do&feature=related

Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpbu0C0-sc&feature=related

Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9uzpvRzzYQ&feature=related

Part 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZgQfUOFUsA&feature=related

Part 9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg31-jztZPI&feature=related

Part 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a779osTi3c&feature=related

September clues is one of the worst films I have seen about 9/11. Its almost all compleatly wrong and promots disinformation. We have to stick to the truth and what is provable with good science if there is ever going to be justice for the families.

Understnding why september clues is wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghzcsADklw&feature=player_embedded

http://truthaction.org/debunkingseptemberclues.pdf

Also, the orb viseos are just low res videos. watch the higher res videos and you will see a plane.

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 10:07

Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 - AE911Truth.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw&feature=youtu.be

markoid

8th September 2011, 10:08

I concur with toothpick loveandgratitude this one comprehensive, kickass 9/11 thread!! .. thanks
I didn't realise that Charlie Sheen had put this out there in such a fashion, good on him! It sure makes me wonder if he wasn't being seriously messed with, (mind control nuggetry©) during his more recent, fairly nutty outbursts.... hmmm.
I have also had an eerie feeling that they may whip up another false flag to take any momentum and publicity away from the litany of evidence that has been gathered by 9/11 truthers. In one of the public polls they ran, in the hollywood video, 82% of the public thought 9/11 was an inside job... wow!

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 10:15

Eyes Wide Open..........what will you be doing on 9/11. I hope you will be out waking up the masses.

EYES WIDE OPEN

8th September 2011, 10:40

I do my bit. I correspond with Sibel Edmonds (google 9/11 sibel edmonds or check her blog: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/ ) and a few family members over the last few years. i also try and point out bad information which I have done a fair bit of in this forum. :) http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26351-The-state-of-the-9-11-truth-movement&p=272065#post272065

loveandgratitude

8th September 2011, 11:10

EYES WIDE OPEN.

I love Sibel Edmonds and have the greatest respect.

When it comes to 9/11. Really, in the end it does not matter HOW THEY DID IT.

What matters is what happened afterwards. The endless wars, millions of innocent victims dead, the stolen money, The patriot Act, Fema Camps, Loss of Ciivil Liberties, TSA Nazis, A government out of control under the color or law, tasering the elderly and young kids on skate boards, 60 years in jail for filming a cop...........on and on. WAKE ME UP THIS IS A BAD DREAM.

When a tank is pointing its gun at you and about to run you over, it's probably not a good idea to start arguing about what nuts and bolts it is made of. Do you get my point. This is a time for all to come together to defeat the enemies. Then when the enemy has been defeated you can aruge about nuts and bolts.

I hope that ON THIS ANNIVERSARY YOU ARE ON BOARD TO BRING THIS INFO TO THE PUBLIC. I WILL BE.

EYES WIDE OPEN

8th September 2011, 19:06

VERY VERY IMPORTANT - SPREAD FAR AND WIDE: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29954-International-Hearings-on-the-Events-of-September-11-2001-LIVE-STREAM-NOW&p=303899#post303899

loveandgratitude

9th September 2011, 04:45

9/11 Mythology - The Big Lie Of Our Time
By Stephen Lendman 9-8-11

Winston Churchill rightly explained that "(a) lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." Today, of course, it circulates everywhere instantly.

Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Germany's Reich Minister of Propaganda, once said:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

He added that "truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Corporate media manipulators love a big story they can hype, distort, and falsify to attract large audiences supportively for the worst imperial crimes.

In fact, the bigger the event, the worse the reporting, sacrificing truth for managed news and opinions everyone should understand and avoid.

Distinguished scholars like David Ray Griffin exposed the 9/11 lie in his exhaustive research and writings. In numerous books, articles, and lectures, he provided convincing evidence about an inside job, not an attack carried out by "crazed Arabs."

In an April 5, 2006 lecture titled, "9/11: The Myth and the Reality," he concluded saying:

"It would seem, for many reasons, that the official story of 9/11, which has served as a religious Myth in the intervening years (and still does), is a myth in the pejorative sense of a story that does not correspond to reality."

It was Griffin's polite way of calling it a Big Lie, the biggest of our time.

On September 11, 2008, his Global Research article headlined, "September 11, 2001: 21 Reasons to Question the Official Story about 9/11," including:

(1) Although the Big Lie holds Osama bin Laden accountable, the FBI admitted it "has no hard evidence connecting" him to the attack (NPHR 206-11).

(2) Although the 9/11 myth claims "devout Muslims (were) ready to die as martyrs to earn a heavenly reward, Mohamed Atta (their alleged leader) and the other alleged hijackers regularly drank heavily, went to strip clubs, and paid for sex (NPHR 153-55)."

(3) Claimed cell phone calls from above 30,000 feet to relatives were falsified as technology at the time made completely them impossible. Later, the FBI changed its story, saying only two were made "from United 93 after it descended to 5,000 feet (NPHR 111-17)."

(4) Then "US Solicitor General Tel Olson's claim that his wife, Barbara Olson, phoned him twice from AA 77," saying hijackers controlled the plane, "was also contradicted by this FBI report," saying one call she attempted was "unconnected" and lasted "0 seconds (NPRH 60-62)."

(5) The FBI lied, saying Atta's left behind luggage included "decisive evidence that al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks....(NPHR 155-62)."

(6) Evidence of alleged Al Qaeda videos, "passports discovered at the crash sites, and a headband discovered at the crash site of United 93 (showed) clear signs of having been fabricated (NPHR 170-73)."

(7) Evidence shows hijackers WERE NOT on the planes. Moreover, if they broke "into cockpits, the pilots would have 'squawked' the universal highjack code," a simple two second act. However, none aboard the four flights did it (NPHR 175-79).

(8) Standard operating procedures to intercept "planes showing signs of an in-flight emergency within about 10 minutes" weren't followed. Instead, a "stand-down order prevented (them) from being carried out (NPHR 1-10, 81-84)."

(9) Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta said Dick Cheney, inside the White House bunker, "apparently confirmed a stand-down order at about 9:25AM," prior to an alleged plane striking the Pentagon. "Another man has reported hearing a member of LAX Security learn that a stand-down order (came) from the 'highest level' of the White House (NPHR 94-96)."

(10) The 9/11 Whitewash Commission ignored Mineta's report, deleted it from the official record, "and claimed that Cheney did not enter the (bunker) until almost 10:00...." They lied (NPHR 91-94).

In fact, Philip Zelikow, head of the 9/11 Commission, was a member of the Bush White House.

(11) The 9/11 Commission even contradicted what Cheney told Tim Russett on "Meet the Press" on September 16 (NPHR 93).

(12) Hani Hanjour, the so-called terrible pilot unable to fly a single-engine aircraft, "could not possibly have executed the amazing (AA 77) trajectory....to hit Wedge 1 of the Pentagon" that even experienced airline pilots would have had trouble negotiating, and never would have tried, fearing they'd crash and burn (NPHR 78-80).

(13) Wedge 1 was the most implausible spot to be struck. It was furthest from offices of Rumsfeld and Pentagon top brass, presumably the targeted high-value officials.

It was also "the only part of the Pentagon that had been reinforced." Its reconstruction wasn't finished, so few people were there. And it presented the most difficult flight path to execute (NPHR 76-78).

(14) Pentagon officials lied, saying they had no warning of an approaching aircraft. In fact, "a military E-4B - the Air Force's most advanced communications, command, and control airplane - was flying over the White House at the time." Astonishingly, the Pentagon "denied it belonged to them (NPHR 96-98)."

Moreover, the Pentagon is the most guarded structure in the world, complete with advanced radar and surface-to-air missiles, able to intercept and destroy any approaching threat.

(15) Without explanation, the Secret Service let George Bush remain at a Sarasota, FL school for 30 minutes after learning the second tower was struck, ignoring standard procedures to secure his safety as presumably high-value officials were targeted.

Only advance knowledge assured them of no danger at a time media reports circulated about America being under attack.

On 9/11's first anniversary, a new White House story emerged, falsely claiming Bush left the school immediately. "The lie was told in major newspapers and on MSNBC and ABC television (NHHR 129-31)."

(16) Their rigid steel columns made it impossible for the towers to crumble, let alone "at virtually free-fall speed - unless (they) had been sliced by means of explosives." In other words, claims about impacting planes and resulting fires being responsible are "scientifically impossible (NPHR 12-25)."

(17) Other features of the towers' destruction "can be explained only in terms of powerful explosives." They include "horizontal ejections of steel beams, the melting of steel, and the sulfidation and thinning of steel." Moreover, "fires could not have come within 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit of the temperature needed to melt steel (NPHR 30-36)."

(18) New York Fire Department "oral histories shortly after 9/11" provided testimonies of "having witnessed explosions in the Twin Towers. Others toppling WTC 7 as well as the towers were also reported by city officials, WTC employees, and journalists (NPHR 27-30, 45-48, 51)."

(19) On 9/11, Mayor Rudy Giuliani told" told ABC News anchor Peter Jennings that he was informed that the towers would collapse, despite no basis to think so. In fact, the so-called information came from his own Office of Emergency Management that either falsified it or had advance knowledge of the plot (NPH 40).

(20) "NIST, which produced the official reports on the Twin Towers and (recently) WTC 7, has been fully hijacked from the scientific to the political realm...." In fact, its "scientists" are "hired guns (NPHR 11, 238-51)."

(21) Growing numbers of "physicists, chemists, architects, engineers, pilots, former military officers, and former intelligence officers" reject the official 9/11 myth as a bald-faced lie (NPHR xi).

READ MORE -

http://www.rense.com/general94/truelies.htm
Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

loveandgratitude

9th September 2011, 04:51

9/11: Open letter & challenge to ADL’s Abe Foxman

In your lengthy article Decade of Deceit: Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10 Years Later, you label a number of named writers and commentators including me who say that Israel’s Mossad was or even might have been involved in the 9/11 terror attack as anti-Semitic, and you assert that they are demonizing “the Jews”. You also say: “Anticipating criticism, a number of these anti-Semitic conspiracists now try to immunize themselves against charges of anti-Semitism by making disclaimers up front about not being anti-Semitic. Their own works and record, however, blatantly contradict their innocuous self-characterizations.”

I have to assume that I am one of the “number” in the above quotation because when you introduce at the end of your piece a few sentences of what I have said on the subject of 9/11, you do so with these words: “After pre-emptively trying to dismiss charges of anti-Semitism, Hart asserts…”

I also have to assume that you have not read (surprise! surprise!) my epic book, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, three volumes in its American edition (www.claritypress.com). Except those who are brainwashed by Zionist propaganda and deluded to the point of clinical madness, nobody could read this book and conclude that I was anti-Semitic. The first picture in it is of Golda Meir when she was prime minister, inscribed it in her own hand “To a good friend, Alan Hart.” Do you believe, Mr. Foxman, that old lady was so stupid that she couldn’t have seen through me if I was anti-Jew?

As I say in the book and on every public platform on which I speak, THE key to understanding is knowledge of the difference between Judaism and Zionism. Here is how I am going to summarise this difference in a speech in Germany on this September 11.

JUDAISM is the religion of Jews, not “the” Jews because not all Jews are religious. Like Christianity and Islam, Judaism has at its core a set of moral values and ethical principles.

ZIONISM is a sectarian, colonial-like nationalism which created a state for some Jews in the Arab heartland mainly by terrorism and ethnic cleansing, and by doing so demonstrated contempt for, and made a mockery of, Judaism’s moral values and ethical principles. In reality mainstream Judaism and Zionism are total opposites.

I’m also going to wonder aloud how many in my German audience are aware of two particular background facts. One is of that the return of Jews to the land of biblical Israel by the efforts of man – one possible but wholly inadequate definition of Zionism – was proscribed by Judaism. The other is that prior to the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust, the vast majority of Jews everywhere, and especially many eminent American Jews including the then owner of The New York Times, were totally opposed to Zionism’s Palestine project. Why? They believed it to be morally wrong. They feared it would lead to unending conflict with the Arabs and the wider Muslim world. But most of all they feared that if Zionism was allowed by the big powers to have its way, it would one day provoke violent anti-Semitism on a grand scale.

I am then going to give the two main reasons why knowledge of the difference between Judaism and Zionism is the key to understanding.

The first is that when you know the difference, you can understand why it is perfectly possible to be passionately anti-Zionist (anti Zionism’s colonial enterprise) without being in any way, shape or form anti-Semitic in the sense of loathing and even hating all Jews everywhere just because they are Jews.

The second is that when you know the difference between Judaism and Zionism, you can understand why it is wrong to blame all Jews everywhere for the crimes of the hard core Zionists in Israel.

Defenders of Israel right or wrong assert that Judaism and Zionism are one and the same in order to make the charge, as you do Mr. Foxman, that criticism of Israel is by definition a manifestation of anti-Semitism. That, I will tell my German audience, is Zionist propaganda nonsense for a blackmail purpose, the purpose being to silence criticism and prevent informed and honest debate about Israel’s policies and actions. And I will add this: “When you know the difference between Judaism and Zionism, you don’t have to be frightened about being falsely accused of anti-Semitism for speaking and writing the truth of history as it relates to the making and sustaining of the conflict in and over Palestine that became Israel. You can say to your Zionist accuser, ‘Go to hell!’”.

Mr. Foxman, I’m not going to tell you to go to hell. I have a constructive suggestion to make. If you truly believe that I am anti-Semitic, why don’t you say so explicitly in writing (on ADL’s web site will be fine) and then I can sue you. And that will give us the Mother and Father of a test case to determine what anti-Semitism is and is not. (For some of my in-depth thinking on this matter you may care to visit Opinion Maker. There you’ll find an article of mine with the headline Anti-Semitism – Zionist myth vs truth and reality.

While you are thinking about how to respond to my suggestion, you might like to consider two particular statements I make in my book and on most public platforms.

The first is this. I do not blame the Zionist lobby for acting in the way it does. It is only playing the game according to the rules. I blame a corrupt, pork-barrel system of American politics which puts what passes for democracy sale up to the highest bidders.

The second is this. The Jews, generally speaking are the intellectual elite of the Western civilization and the Palestinians are by far the intellectual elite of the Arab world. What these two peoples could do together in peace and partnership is the stuff that dreams are made of. They could change the region for the better and by doing so give new hope and inspiration to the whole world.

And I’ll add this. I have two driving motivations.

One is to contribute to the understanding needed if there is ever to be an acceptable amount of justice for the Palestinians. Without it the future is predictable – catastrophe for all, possibly in the shape of a Clash of Civilizations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic.

The other is to contribute to the understanding needed to stop Holocaust II, shorthand for another great turning against the Jews. My Gentile views on this aspect of the matter are in tune with the warning words of Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel’s longest serving Director of Military Intelligence. In his book Israel’s Fateful Hour, published in 1986, he wrote this:

Israel is the criterion according to which all Jews will tend to be judged. Israel as a Jewish state is an example of the Jewish character, which finds free and concentrated expression within it. Anti-Semitism has deep and historical roots. Nevertheless, any flaw in Israeli conduct, which initially is cited as anti-Israelism, is likely to be transformed into empirical proof of the validity of anti-Semitism. It would be a tragic irony if the Jewish state, which was intended to solve the problem of anti-Semitism, was to become a factor in the rise of anti-Semitism. Israelis must be aware that the price of their misconduct is paid not only by them but also Jews throughout the world.

In the world today we are witnessing a rising tide of anti-Israelism provoked by Israel’s arrogance of power, its contempt for international law and its appalling self-righteousness. (In Harkabi’s view self-righteousness is the biggest threat to Israel’s existence). If Israel stays on its present course, the danger is, as Harkabi warned, that anti-Israelism will be transformed into anti-Semitism, leading to another great turning against Jews everywhere and quite possibly starting in America. In my view the real danger of that happening will be greatly reduced if those (mainly Westerners) among whom most of the Jews of the world live are made aware of the difference between Judaism and Zionism.

Also to be said is that the Jews of the world (those in North America and Europe especially) could and should act to best protect their own interests by distancing themselves from the Zionist state and its crimes. In the Prologue to Volume One of my book which is titled Waiting for the Apocalypse, I quote Dr. David Goldberg, a prominent liberal London rabbi, as saying the following in 2001: “It may be time for Judaism and Zionism to go their separate ways.” Today I would say to him, it’s not “may be” time, it is time.

Awaiting your response.

Sincerely,

Alan Hart

read more
http://www.opinion-maker.org/2011/09/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adls-abe-foxman/

ThePythonicCow

9th September 2011, 05:13

9/11 Mythology - The Big Lie Of Our Time
By Stephen Lendman 9-8-11

9/11: Open letter & challenge to ADL’s Abe Foxman

loveandgratitude -- I'm guessing that the last two long posts are not your words, but rather the words of Stephen Lendman and Alan Hart (I could have guessed wrong.)

If so, could you provide a link to where you obtained this material, and consider posting just an excerpt with your comments, rather than an entire quote?

loveandgratitude

10th September 2011, 13:39

In Plane Sight - Sept 11 - 911 Conspiracy 1 of 10

What "In Plane Site" accomplishes that no other video expose' on September 11th has to date, is it exposes the viewer to a barrage of news clips from a majority of the mainstream news outlets. The official story of that day was told on live TV by reporters, policemen, firefighters, and other on-the-scene eyewitnesses, however, that footage was shown only once on live television broadcasts in the first hours of the attacks and then... it was never repeated. The stories changed, information was enigmatically omitted, and what can only be described as officially prescribed propaganda took the place of indisputable reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkp-PXf_qlk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkp-PXf_qlk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAmTeBpUYc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smcprsGf-dw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSaMxZhIxAA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrYO0qb1o5Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9K4PMMhlyk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L6hm5pBAQw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRdRCKxKmc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20D6lUl0r5E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5qZkraf5o&feature=related

eaglespirit

10th September 2011, 13:58

Many of You that stay on the 'Outer Edge of Things' have probably already read this...but bringing it here for ALL to read.
WE are IN the VERY Moments of Monumental Changes...the 'Powers That Were' are about to be DISMANTLED...for good.
They will not energize/propagate ANY more fear...directly or indirectly....the Mass Consciousness will NOT allow it and/or another 9/11 travesty!!!

Probabilities/Possibilities in Clif's Words:

But now, post Fukashima, the 'nuclear card' is far less valuable. The way this stuff works in the matterium, the 'owners' of the entrenched powers only really get their ki/chi 'juice up' IF there is 'shock and awe' associated with the manifesting circumstances. If we all go,(yawn)"ok, so...linguini for lunch?" when they roll out their 'nuclear nightmare' scenario, well, then it is pretty much all over for the entrenched powers. It would be due to how fear works in our collective consensus reality. Due to having already been saturated with nuclear related, fear tinged imagery, the amount of new 'juice' would be minimal.

You see, they cannot afford even a single failure with their PMF program. If the any single PMF fails, not only will the entrenched powers be excoriated by their owners, but their 'audience', all us captive terrestrial humanity, will start to think that they, the entrenched powers, are ass-clowns. They cannot have that. They must have fear. They can never have ridicule. Thus, their current conundrum relative to the up coming PMF.

Just which scenario to use? Remember that what ever PMF they use, it HAS to cover the theft of at least half of terrestrial humanity's financial resources as the global monetary system collapses.

The progression HAD called for the 'false flag nuk-lar' event to next cause global panic. But, well, we have all just been saturated, both linguistically and radioactively, with our fair share of nuclear words, so what to do?

What's up next? Mega-earthquake doom as New Madrid rips north america in two? Comet impact doom? Space Alien invasion? So many choices, so little time.

This is the key...so little time. The next PMF is needed damn quick and the entrenched powers know this. So do we here at hph. The collective psyche of omnihumanity alert us to the coming of Yet Another Planetary Mind **** as the linguistics are sampled for this next (September) report. The details leaking out will not be presented here as the entrenched powers would just change the flow at the last minute to avoid the forecast. As we have discovered over the years (decades) here at HPH...best to just let universe unfold as it wishes.

So it is enough to know that it is coming. And soon (like really soon). The YAPMF will make its appearance as the entrenched powers will have it, but when it does come there will be a number of aware observers nodding....'saw it coming', they will say. And 'is that the best they can do?' will soon follow. This is the forecast outcome. It has rippled back from the previously manifest pending past that is our future. This YAPMF will fail. Not that this will make the 'owners' of omnihumanity any less dangerous, but it will reduce their power to **** with humans here on terra. The willful sheeple are excluded from the humans reference here. At least this current generation of 'religiously devout' will 'accept' the upcoming YAPMF. However as the 'religiously devout' category is restricted to only those genetically capable of living continually in denial of manifesting circumstances, the percentage of terrestrial humans who 'swallow the blue pill' will be small.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/PMF.html

sygh

10th September 2011, 17:58

Tane Mahuta

11th September 2011, 07:57

10yrs ago America attacked itself....

Innocents died..

Americans 2,740
Foreigners 236
Total 2,976

not to mention current medical conditions of the first responders

... some turbin wearing cave dweller got blamed for it...

nuff said

TM

Bo Atkinson

11th September 2011, 13:44

loveandgratitude, Thanks for your vid selection. All due respect to all who died or suffered. I was curious why you mentioned "....Dr Jenkins was using 'ambush' techniques and that Dr Wood was simply caught 'off-guard' during this interview..." Actually, who ever planned and produced the video presented a diversion from science and engineering. You also wrote: "Dr. Greg Jenkins, a physicist, poses fundamental questions to Dr. Wood regarding her research." My view is as follows:

Actually, near to the end of vid, Dr Jenkins used the term 'collapse' in way which ignores the mass contained in airborn dust. Dr Wood insisted on full accounting of all mass, to account for the absence of equivalent rubble on the ground. This is actually a required element in forensic investigations. Dr wood proves herself the truer observer here, in that she dares to examine the full spectrum of evidence, (scientific and engineering observations). Dr Jenkins seemed to evade the full spectrum of observations or evidence.

WhiteFeather

11th September 2011, 16:17

~BUMPING FOR THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY~
And because Loveandgratitude did a nice job here.

Unified Serenity

1st December 2011, 03:01

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21st December 2011, 06:38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGbEJ3pXwWM=player_embedded