Interesting view on NWO and our role in it

[Autumn]

Wow!! Take a look at this. I makes “us” sound like we’re actually strengthening and rooting for NOW in our pursuit of the truth and spiritual evolution. I’m astounded!

Mgtc_Dhnlr0

What are your thoughts?

[PHARAOH]

These are just 2 sides of the same coin. They must have you "be-lie-ve" in one or the other. They don't care which, just so long as you don't "know thyself"

[Autumn]

I disagree ... as much thruth as I (we) seek I have so far found that ... and I hate to say this ... the occultists/theosophists/NWO (as described in this one) are the ones I root for. I seek truth through the evidence. I don't enterpret the evidence before I have a substancial and thorrough basis to enterpret on but this one really gave me months worht of thought and new places to look. 5000 pages more to read!

One thought that crossed me is that maybe this genecide we all oppose (through vaccines, food adjetives etc) don't count us because we are the initiates to the occult knowledge by our search and thus we don't eat the crap GMO etc. that the sheeple does. There are aspects we are yet to understand mixed up with an evil that we can't support. This is where we are to BE-LIE-VE, but it has nothing to do with the truth - and we're stuck with the hard job of figurring out which part is chocolate and which is sh***.

Something a bit deeper, please.

[PHARAOH]

Dear Autumn, that which you seek is within you. Continue your search and you will eventually come full circle back to self. "You" are the light that shinith in the darkness that "You" the darkness comprehendeth not. You are both. Which you choose to excercise is up to you. Occultist, Theologians, Freemasons etc., etc. will all eventually ask you to worship someone or something other then yourself thus keeping you in servitude to something other then yourself. You are looking for Enlightenment or IN-Lightenment. They word itself tells you where you need to go and look. Don't believe for one second that we the searchers of truth eat and drink from the same chalice as those in power do, for they will only laugh at us as they lead us to the slaughter. Stay grounded on the straight and narrow path. Do not go left nor right but stay centered and find yourself. I can only show you the door. It will be up to you to walk through the threshold. Blessing be unto you on your search. I'm trust you'll reconginize the difference between chocolate and manure once you take a bite.

[Autumn]

Pharaoh, thank you for this. I search this path already, and you telling how simple it is (or making it sound simple) does unfortunately not help. When you seek your understanding of truth and wisdom please remember that others have their own search and that they may not be at the same level as you. Knowing oneself cannot be taught or preached as I kinda see your post as doing. It’s kinda “this simple, folks” and has nothing to do with my original post.

Why would one listen to the Budha? Why listen to anyone who masters this much more than one self if everything we need is inside us - f*** if we know it or how to look? This is my point and the point of this video.
We can view a search for ones inner self in this materialistic world as a search for a recipe on how to cook something one have never tasted. Only knowing that a vegetable exists somewhere but not knowing what it looks like will not be enough to find it and even less of an inspiration on what wonderful dishes one in the search of a good dinner can discover. Now let’s reverse it so this analogy describes something inside us. This vegetable (guide from more experienced/knowing people) is what I search to help me search within. In every search we find both irrelevant, funny, and interesting things – this video being one of them. To me it provides a lot – even places to look inside me.

I don’t mean to sound rude, but please, stick to the subject and thus help me (and others which is what I hope to accomplish by posting this video) search on the level I/we am at – not where you are at.

I apologize in advance if I seem rude, it is not my intension – merely to keep the topic started the topic of the thread.

[Fire Dragon]

Many of "us" here in our hearts are wanting, looking for a NWO, we dont want the boundries of race, creed, and nations seperating humans. Division between us all is the reason we can be brainwashed into fighting each other. The reason we end up in a place like Avalon is because we sence or know that we are aware of this brainwashing mindcontrol. We want a NWO but we want to reach it through consesus, mutual agreement rather than have it forced upon us by people who want to control us.

I cannot support the current power structure because i know it is based upon lies and trickery, therefore i do not want the current power structure to be heading the NWO, but a NWO is what i think most of us here realy want,, so its up to us to do it ourselves, the fair and good way, by education, sharing knowledge and passing it on to enlighten each other. We have to become more aware, learn every trick that they use against us so that we can rise above it and take our power back.

This is happening with us and many other groups,,, and as the saying goes, Good (us) always defeats evil(them)

lets have a great day today folks :)

[PHARAOH]

Ok Autumn, you are totally in the know. You are inside the inner circle of "TPTB". They will be calling you soon. There now; feel better?

[Autumn]

Pharaoh ... what a strange comeback to a simple request of keeping on topic.

[ulli]

When you look within long enough there comes a point when you see that the outside is a bigger you, waiting to be integrated as well.
So the dilemma of a new world order is actually very valid, and raising the question if we want to belong to an oppressive system or a liberal system is inevitable. If the society to which I belong functions well all the way to the top then I can feel free to explore my universe.
If it doesn't then not only am I denied the chance to learn to read and write, but may not even have access to food and shelter.
In such a world there is no way to go within...it is a world of raw survival struggle.

The alternative to a global society is competing governments, struggling for dominating positions. In such a world there can be no end to warfare.

So it is reasonable to consider a well-functioning global society in which the freedoms that keep individuals functioning at their optimal capacity are maintained.

[joedjemal]

I have no problem with a single united world on one condition. That every single office and position in it is barred to psychopaths and other sociopaths and that all applicants for such positions are screened to prevent such an occurance otherwise we'll have exactly the same problems that we have now.

n.b. Screening is simple. Show people horrifying pictures while taking an fmri scan psychopaths can't disguise the fact that they are affected no differently by nice or horrific images.

[ulli]

I have no problem with a single united world on one condition. That every single office and position in it is barred to psychopaths and other sociopaths and that all applicants for such positions are screened to prevent such an occurance otherwise we'll have exactly the same problems that we have now.

n.b. Screening is simple. Show people horrifying pictures while taking an fmri scan psychopaths can't disguise the fact that they are affected no differently by nice or horrific images.

This is how Baha'i communities function around the world:
Communities elect the nine members of their governing councils from their own midst, and all campaigning is forbidden.
That way if a psychopath DOES`make it to the top then the community has only itself to blame for not aquanting themselves properly with it's members.
There are plenty of social occasions which allow one to get to know the rest of the community, who are called "The Friends".
Individual leadership is discouraged and members who show big egos instead of humility and sincerity are considered problematic.
If someone does not wish to be elected for assembly service they just decide to lie low for a while before the annual election day.

However, once election day comes, everyone is given a blank piece of paper (all adults over 21) where they write down the names of their nine favourite people in the community.
Then, in total secret ballot fashion the votes are counted by a group of randomly appointed tellers, and those names with the most votes win.
Plurality vote.
Important to note is the matter of time limits, and elections are held once a year so that the assembly can have fresh blood come in.

[My main problem with this used to be that the communities in which I served were extremely conservative and kept electing the same people over and over.]

The governing assembly would be made up of community members who had shown a willingness to serve their community, without putting themselves on a campaign podium.
The people know that they will receive no salaries.
They do not represent their constituents who voted for them since they have no idea who cast their votes.
They follow their personal conscience.
The community elected them because they have proven to be trustworthy.
It can work very well, if the people have a high level of consciousness.

There is one special feature which I personally liked very much.
If the ninth position has a tie there has to be a revote.
However, if one of those persons is a member of a minority then there is no revote,
and the person becomes the new member.
This is just to make sure minorities are always fairly represented.

[realitycorrodes]

The way you (Pharaoh) have spoken to Autumn contains the presupposition (assumption) that you "Pharaoh" have already experienced "Enlightenment" and therefore
are "qualified to give directions to others" who seek it. It must feel pretty good to be enlightened. Would you expand on how you acheived it and
what the experience was like for you?

It may be worth while starting your own thread completely dedicated to your enlightened directions to others who would derive enormous help from being able to ask an enlightened being what needs to be done so they too can share in this enlightenment you imply you have. Afterall it does seem pretty hard to find enlightened people on this planet...considering how many fake one's there are. I guess its too easy to succomb to one's ego?

Thanks in advance, Realitycorrodes.


"They who know, do not speak.
Those who speak, do not know."
- Lao Tsu, Tao Te Ching

[seantimberwolf]

I see where autum is comming from some of us just want to be happy and feel like enlightenment may be beyond our reach.
Maybe because we have had it in a past life, or maybe we are not ready for it in this life time.
Either way it was pre decided before we incarnated.
And perhaps some of us have decided too ride the NWO out and see what all the fuss is about, or maybe we committed a crime in a past life so had to punish ourselves,
Point is we don't know :)

[The Arthen]

It is good and graceful to be tolerant with discouragement, but one of the biggest tendencies then, from that point on, is to be a neurotic underdog.

Being a neurotic underdog that goes so far as to keep saying "so you think you're enlightened, eh?" has NEVER worked as well. All you will have in the end, are people who just (forgive me) sit there like spoilt brats going "oh so what! i ROOT for destruction! look at it all! look!"

I'm sure many of you have heard the phrase, "A wise man claims to be a fool, but a fool claims to be a wise man". This is very true, BUT, unfortunately, the discouragement tends to make one like this phrase in a very self-defeating way, rather than an empowering way.

Anybody can pluck true sayings and just simply slap it on the discouragement machine to say "See? This is true".

But nope, I don't see it as true. I don't care how many sayings you pluck to prove a point.

[realitycorrodes]

Withnail: What are you talking about, Danny?
Danny: Politics man. If you're hanging on to a rising

balloon, you're presented with a difficult decision - let go

before it's too late or hold on and keep getting higher,

posing the question: how long can you keep a grip on the

rope? They're selling hippie wigs in Woolworths, man. The

greatest decade in the history of mankind is over, and as

Presuming Ed here has so consistently pointed out, we have

failed to paint it black.

[PHARAOH]

The way you (Pharaoh) have spoken to Autumn contains the presupposition (assumption) that you "Pharaoh" have already experienced "Enlightenment" and therefore
are "qualified to give directions to others" who seek it. It must feel pretty good to be enlightened. Would you expand on how you acheived it and
what the experience was like for you?

It may be worth while starting your own thread completely dedicated to your enlightened directions to others who would derive enormous help from being able to ask an enlightened being what needs to be done so they too can share in this enlightenment you imply you have. Afterall it does seem pretty hard to find enlightened people on this planet...considering how many fake one's there are. I guess its too easy to succomb to one's ego?

Thanks in advance, Realitycorrodes.


"They who know, do not speak.
Those who speak, do not know."
- Lao Tsu, Tao Te Ching

"Realitycorrodes", You have spoken.

[Swanette]

Wow!! Take a look at this. I makes “us” sound like we’re actually strengthening and rooting for NOW in our pursuit of the truth and spiritual evolution. I’m astounded!

Mgtc_Dhnlr0

What are your thoughts?

Thanks for this Autumn,
Yes, WOW
I have now seen the WHOLE video and at first I thought ,gee, I am being given info that shows how I have been following the wrong path, but by the end of it I have realized that this information has been put out there from the view of the so called Christian Fundamentalist Camp or maybe the PTB's Tea Party Camp...or I don't know but it has really given me a lot to think about. I do know that this different view doesn't really resonate with me much.

[Autumn]

Swanette, I think Christian fundamentalists camp as this information seems fundamentalistic at best. As in "if Christ isn't what "I"read in the bible, then you are an Illuminati scum!!!!" But the rest still made me think that maybe we don't know the agenda of TPB as well as we think and maybe "we" are a part of their plan. We're the ones who can't deal with the cleaning up but the ones smart/awakened/consious enough to actually survive a cleansing of the "riff raff". I hate to sound like them but I must admitt that when I see a child drooling away, staring emptily into nothing then that life has no way of living a worthy life or experiencing anything other that a misunderstood understanding of the worthyness of life (quality vs. quaníty) and therefore have no way of gathering any experience other that the cruelty and misunderstandment of the before mentioned misunderstanding.