Emotional Addiction

[Carmen]

I wondered where to post this. Its recognized and dealt with from the higher spiritual perspective, but its firmly a 3D phenomenom, so I have posted it here in General.

I have been taught and have recognized clearly the addictions of emotions. They are actually much more addictive than drugs.

When we experience something for the first time, we record to memory through our emotions. And that is well and good and what we are designed to do.

Trouble is, at some point in our lives we stop having new experiences and just keep regurgitating/running, the same emotions for the 'hit' that they give us. We dont even realize we are doing it. Its all automatic. Its all to do with the chemicals we run in our bodies. The adrenalin rush of anger for instance. The power of it, then the "Ahh" of cortisone, the release. The receiver of our outburst isn't feeling so hot, but we feel wonderful and relaxed. Then we are often very sorry to whomever we have shat upon and all settles down to calm again. But wait, gradually the emotional energy starts building again. We contain it for awhile cos that is the civilized thing to do, but something will trigger it and off we go again, spewing.

Its easy to see other people's emotional addictions, its a whole lot harder recognizing our own. We all have this tendency. Spiritual advancement is very much dependant on our ability to recognize, deal with, transcend our emotional addictions.

I confess the whole business with Deedee and the pornography issue had me stirred up. My emotional response to pornography, or the perpetrators of it, is to want to grab them by the throat and shake the **** out of them!!! I notice other people response being part of their emotional makeup. Any semblance of authority on the part of the mods brings out other members emotional response to any sort of authority. Fascinating but kinda deadly in today's world. Now is the opportunity to release, to transcend all of our emotional addictions.

[ulli]

Good point Carmen.
And it is true, it is not the drugs that make a person an addict but the emotional experience.
Drugs just serve as a trigger.

The most addictive emotional experience is not even sex but enlightenment.
It makes a person change everything, but it has an added pricetag: conscience.
Drugs cloud that part.

And the paths to that state are varied- there is the slow route which can transform the whole person
and there are the shortcuts which can make one run in circles.

[norman]

Good point Carmen.
And it is true, it is not the drugs that make a person an addict but the emotional experience.
Drugs just serve as a trigger.

The most addictive emotional experience is not even sex but enlightenment.
It makes a person change everything, but it has an added pricetag: conscience.
Drugs cloud that part.

And the paths to that state are varied- there is the slow route which can transform the whole person
and there are the shortcuts which can make one run in circles.

That is one first class brilliant post ulli.

[hangel]

Thanks for saying that Carmen.

I feel it myself. I feel that there is something missing in my life and this blocks me with progression of spiritual growth. First though this must be external: presence of mobiles, computers and other electric equipment, then i though its diet, vitamins or lack of them. But there is something that still stops me. I have got water filter.. pile of new books. But still im bouncing off the invisible wall that stands on my life path. Emotions: eliminated most of fear, forgave all to be forgiven. Anger there is anger in me, anger about people dear to me, anger that their spiritual growth is nowhere to be seem. They still in telly, crap food, lazy way of living, fiddling with the iphones mood and so on..

[Mark]

As the ego is the hijacker of consciousness, emotions are its primary motive expression. beyond emotions lie the deeper spiritual experiences that are often masked by emotions, which the ego then attempts to interpret as the spiritual experience itself, which fools a lot of people who, for instance, mistake the emotional response to a physical attraction that we in the west understand as courtly love with the deeper, spiritual form of love that is an electromagnetic force of attraction that is truly that which binds Creation as One.

Once we recognize that our spoken thoughts are egoic projections and that the energetic engine that it uses to occlude our deeper senses are the emotions it becomes clear that the emotions help the ego to cement the illusory reality as truth, reinforcing the subjectivity of our shared experiences as we apply meaning based upon our neural net makeup, which itself is a side-effect of a lifetime of emotional attachment and reinforcement mechanically created by the hypothalamus and its creation and diffusion of neuro-peptides and subsequent cellular programming.

Transcending these addictions is soooooooo hard. Changing your mind is actually changing your chemical makeup, which means changing the pattern of your thoughts, which is so difficult to do in the moment. Whew!

But well worth the attempt, of course.

[ulli]

Thanks for saying that Carmen.

I feel it myself. I feel that there is something missing in my life and this blocks me with progression of spiritual growth. First though this must be external: presence of mobiles, computers and other electric equipment, then i though its diet, vitamins or lack of them. But there is something that still stops me. I have got water filter.. pile of new books. But still im bouncing off the invisible wall that stands on my life path. Emotions: eliminated most of fear, forgave all to be forgiven. Anger there is anger in me, anger about people dear to me, anger that their spiritual growth is nowhere to be seem. They still in telly, crap food, lazy way of living, fiddling with the iphones mood and so on..

I once knew this missionary who had moved to a reservation
to convert the members of the Guaymi Indian tribe to religion.

He discovered that the only thing they wanted from him was some cash
so they could experience for once what it would feel like to ride in a taxi.

[Carmen]

Spiritual disciplines of some sort. Meditation, focusing generally, candle focus. Anything that brings our attention to the now will enable us to detach somewhat and to be able to observe our behavour. A sort of witnessing. Any expansion out of our emotional body will enable us to observe how we are behaving, and then have the ability to shortcurcuit it and stop it. But, unless we train ourselves to do this on a daily basis, our emotions will be in control and will be too full on to do anything about it. It will be after the 'event' and we are ever so 'sorry' that we can 'see' that 'Oh sh-t" we've done it again. Its the moving in with spiritual consciousness, swiftly, and saying "NO", you shall not do this. "ENOUGH" The emotional body is also a big fat coward. When we stand up to it a few times, it really starts to dissipate. Our Spiritual Warrior starts to flex its muscles and take on our monsters, our cowardly emotional reactive devils. You will also have noticed that the person who habitually hits out at people in anger, never seems to take on an equal, only those with less strength than them. Thats the indicator of a coward. Once we find our Inner Spiritual Warrior, nobody takes us on. They recognize intuitively, the strength of Spirit.

[TraineeHuman]

Rahkyt, surely you would agree that our simply being very aware, in detail, of such things as that "emotions help the ego to cement the illusory reality as truth" dissolves all the cement. Rather than our focussing on how hard it supposedly is to change our chemical makeup, surely you would agree that the solution lies in the art of "judo", of not-resisting but going with while being very aware? And then the fresh grass grows by itself (to quote a famous Zen text).

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am tied to my woman (what do you call a girlfriend who is much more than that? soul mate?) by strong emotional ties. We are both addicted. We have never been apart in eight years except once when I went to Vancouver for my parents' fiftieeth.

I am very aware of the energetic level of our relationship, where we are both desperately trying to heal our wounds from the past. Her especially since I've been doing the work for 13 years now. She is my greatest inspiration and my best teacher - as I am hers.

At the beginning of our relationship, after the initial three month honeymoon, we had wars. Arguments that escalated to violence many times (her against me - I would never hit a woman). Then one day I lost it and gave her a slap that sent her flying. She called the police. I went to jail (just over night). But the violence was just getting worse.

So I realized that I did not have the tools to rectify the situation on my own. So I went out and found a group that I spent the next year with. They taught me how to deal with it. The solution was so simple. I was told to quit fanning the flames and just love her. So I did. It wasn't easy at first but slowly I learned to stop resisting and just accept what is. From then on, her attacks were met with love and understanding and not one shred of incrimination. This drove her crazy at first but when she realized I was not going to take up my side of the battle she mellowed out.

Course, I did finally have to leave her. I moved into my own place and for three months I was on my own. I was not happy but I knew I had no choice. And, I had to stay firm to my own convictions - I could not hope she would come around. Three months in I was sure I had lost her forever. Then one day she called and said she was sorry and that she still loved me. My Valdi girl still loved me! Oh, I could not believe it.

I am forever grateful to the local chapter of ACIM for teaching the universal tools I still use today in so many wonderful ways.

So, emotional addiction, yup, been there, done that.

[Carmody]

I just did the thing that you have to do .... if you want to get there.

Actually do it. shut the world out, shut the noise out, go inside the self, no breaks, no give, no backing down, no giving in, no giving up.... psychological and psychic freedom --or death.

Those where the options I gave myself and I pushed until I was there, or dead.

Simple.

You just have to want it more than life itself, for the ego components convince you that their grip on the self is life, and will not let go until the penalty of death, and sometimes beyond.

That's the usual level of commitment required.

You have a family? Push that aside.

You have a partner? Push that aside.

You have commitments? Push that aside.

You have to make a living? Push that aside.

You want to save the world? Push that aside.

You want to save yourself? Push that aside.

Your level of commitment must be total.

No wonder so few make it.

edit: This is why water-boarding and torture methods work, for brainwashing. They take one temporarily to this level. Combined with hypnosis, it can create monsters.

When clearing the self out and moving to the super conscious state as a waking state, the effort is the same, regarding expenditure of effort. Similar places are looked for, in the mind and in the construct. But it is done slowly, much more slowly, with much more control. Slowly enough for a wiring change to take place, one that is more permanent.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Only problem with your approach, and I speak from experience, is that while you are working so dilligently to attain that state you leave yourself open to attack.

At least that's what happened to me.

I found that less effort produces better results. So I would say don't worry about reaching any state at all.

Just enjoy life and be carefree and open to love.

The rest will come of itself. Or not. No matter really.

It's all just a game we play until we wake up. And waking up is assured, since it is our will - and The Most High's.

[Carmody]

There are as many methods, in the final sense, as there are dualities of beings.

[raymond]

I just did the thing that you have to do .... if you want to get there.

Actually do it. shut the world out, shut the noise out, go inside the self, no breaks, no give, no backing down, no giving in, no giving up.... psychological and psychic freedom --or death.

Those where the options I gave myself and I pushed until I was there, or dead.

Simple.

You just have to want it more than life itself, for the ego components convince you that their grip on the self is life, and will not let go until the penalty of death, and sometimes beyond.

That's the usual level of commitment required.

You have a family? Push that aside.

You have a partner? Push that aside.

You have commitments? Push that aside.

You have to make a living? Push that aside.

You want to save the world? Push that aside.

You want to save yourself? Push that aside.

Your level of commitment must be total.

No wonder so few make it.

edit: This is why water-boarding and torture methods work, for brainwashing. They take one temporarily to this level. Combined with hypnosis, it can create monsters.

When clearing the self out and moving to the super conscious state as a waking state, the effort is the same, regarding expenditure of effort. Similar places are looked for, in the mind and in the construct. But it is done slowly, much more slowly, with much more control. Slowly enough for a wiring change to take place, one that is more permanent.

I am normally too lazy to give thanks.

But when I clicked thanks on your post, my ears started ringing.

THANK YOU!

[Mark]

Rahkyt, surely you would agree that our simply being very aware, in detail, of such things as that "emotions help the ego to cement the illusory reality as truth" dissolves all the cement. Rather than our focussing on how hard it supposedly is to change our chemical makeup, surely you would agree that the solution lies in the art of "judo", of not-resisting but going with while being very aware? And then the fresh grass grows by itself (to quote a famous Zen text).

Hello there, yes I do agree. :) I was actually thinking about this thread earlier this morning and I was like, I mentioned how hard it is but I did not speak about the actual transcension aspect lol so I'm glad that you brought it up. Perhaps that was me channeling into your response before coming to the forum today, who knows ... the act of self-awareness, of contemplating the change is the change itself ... otherwise called fake it till you make it. Recognizing the difficulty of the process is not the same thing as succumbing to inertia or stasis, it is respect for the process. If elevation or change were easy, everybody would be doing it and it is quite obvious that everybody is not. Quite the opposite is true. As others state in this forum all the time, those of us who are consciously and actively concerned with many of the matters that we discuss here on Avalon and elsewhere are quite the minority, probably making up a lot less than %1 of the world population.

If you cannot move through the egoic reliance upon the emotional body and past circumstances and behaviors than you cannot be aware at a conscious level. You cannot take full responsibility for your intentions and motivations if you have not done the work necessary to even know what those are. Soooo many people have issues from childhood and beyond that they don't want to become consciously aware of, and yet they must if they make the decision to become a better person. And how many people in your life do you know who even want to do that, or think that they need to change at all?

But yes, the green grass will grow once the process of shifting the awareness and become self-conscious is initiated as long as that state is cultivated and previous patterns, and external,internal actors and whisperers don't overwhelm that change. Since evolution is remorseless, change is inevitable, but I'm not one who believes that everyone is headed in the same direction on the same train. Or perhaps a better way to put that is that there are two directions of evolution, but the path is an evolution in the end.

[TargeT]

I just did the thing that you have to do .... if you want to get there.

Actually do it. shut the world out, shut the noise out, go inside the self, no breaks, no give, no backing down, no giving in, no giving up.... psychological and psychic freedom --or death.

Those where the options I gave myself and I pushed until I was there, or dead.

Simple.

You just have to want it more than life itself, for the ego components convince you that their grip on the self is life, and will not let go until the penalty of death, and sometimes beyond.

That's the usual level of commitment required.

You have a family? Push that aside.

You have a partner? Push that aside.

You have commitments? Push that aside.

You have to make a living? Push that aside.

You want to save the world? Push that aside.

You want to save yourself? Push that aside.

Your level of commitment must be total.

No wonder so few make it.

edit: This is why water-boarding and torture methods work, for brainwashing. They take one temporarily to this level. Combined with hypnosis, it can create monsters.

When clearing the self out and moving to the super conscious state as a waking state, the effort is the same, regarding expenditure of effort. Similar places are looked for, in the mind and in the construct. But it is done slowly, much more slowly, with much more control. Slowly enough for a wiring change to take place, one that is more permanent.


I generaly comprehend your posts, but this I do not.. go in and seek what? do what? I wouldn't know what to do, but I want to.. just "think" about breaking the ego down? when you do this you force a confrontation I guess?

I could walk away from all of that right now (maybe not with out a little hesitation), I don't see how confronting it will help or give the outcome you seem to infer.

of course, I probably have zero psycic ability.. so maybe its less important for me.

[mahalall]

Maybe the answer to our addictions-emotions is to examine the reaction to sensation to the addiction.

For every sensation is in a constant flux so why then do we attach ourselves to the sensations of conditioned emotion?

Sampajanna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampaja%C3%B1%C3%B1a

best wishes

[Anchor]

I sometimes wonder if it is not the emotions that are the problem, its the triggers for them that are embedded in you from the past and which lie there covertly, ready to sneak up and challenge you when you least expect it.

Nothing is all that wrong with it really.

If people like you can be shaken and not stirred by this sort of thing - it just proves that things are speeding up.

Ideally, all of us will have the change to process all kinds of crap before this is all done.

Carmen - you are a complete star by the way :)

John..

[DeDukshyn]

My life changed a 180 degrees when I got off "emotions". The most addictive and destructive drug out there. Emotions aren't useless, but as 99.99 % of humans utilize or are controlled by them, they are useless ...

The trick to keep your emotions in check? Stop thinking, start experiencing - only then your emotions are perceived properly, and even then are only personal guidance for yourself. Emotions based in/from any past or future event (as a result of thinking with the ego) are extremely destructive.

More than my 2 cents! I live this reality! ;)

[raymond]

My life changed a 180 degrees when I got off "emotions". The most addictive and destructive drug out there. Emotions aren't useless, but as 99.99 % of humans utilize or are controlled by them, they are useless ...

The trick to keep your emotions in check? Stop thinking, start experiencing - only then your emotions are perceived properly, and even then are only personal guidance for yourself. Emotions based in/from any past or future event (as a result of thinking with the ego) are extremely destructive.

More than my 2 cents! I live this reality! ;)

Elaborate please with examples. This is one of the most informative threads here in Avalon.

I do hope the Mods move this to the spirituality section. This thread is that good.

Most people do not understand the damage emotional addictions do to your psyche, consciousness and soul.

[DeDukshyn]

My life changed a 180 degrees when I got off "emotions". The most addictive and destructive drug out there. Emotions aren't useless, but as 99.99 % of humans utilize or are controlled by them, they are useless ...

The trick to keep your emotions in check? Stop thinking, start experiencing - only then your emotions are perceived properly, and even then are only personal guidance for yourself. Emotions based in/from any past or future event (as a result of thinking with the ego) are extremely destructive.

More than my 2 cents! I live this reality! ;)

Elaborate please with examples. This is one of the most informative threads here in Avalon.

I do hope the Mods move this to the spirituality section. This thread is that good.

Most people do not understand the damage emotional addictions do to your psyche, consciousness and soul.


Bleh, I'm not in writing mood, really ... but you are correct -- this is important stuff.

Here goes ... as simply and efficiently as I can put it (again I'm not in writing mood but I do wish to elaborate at your request)

Emotions.
What are they? YOUR guidance system.

How do they work? When you feel a negative emotion, it is your own vibrations you are interpreting, nothing else. No outside thing/experience/observation/force can influence your emotions. They are your own creations from a higher level of existence, triggered by the ego's judgements.

How can I use them properly? When you feel a negative emotion, it is because you judged something and found it guilty of being something that you find negative -- in other words you "applied" your own negative frequencies to something - this what your are feeling. Whenever you find yourself feeling a negative emotion, it is your higher self telling you "You are not interpreting this in a healthy way, and it is causing you suffering" -- it is never the event itself that causes negative emotions, but your own erroneous judgements about an event that causes you to feel pain. Doubt me? Than why can one person not be emotionally stirred by something another is? Because it IS a personal creation. Period.

In the grand reality, none of us has the full picture -- not even remotely close -- few of us "get" why we are here -- we are here to learn, and the lesson we are here to learn is to not judge, and only feel love in our hearts, just as some Galilean dude once said. How can you be not judging and feeling love, as we are to learn to do, when we are judging something, finding it guilty, then allowing the emotion that comes with that to cause us pain or fear? This is the only lesson every human needs to learn. Everything IS in its place, and until we realize that these experiences -- even ones we view as "negative" are only bringing us closer to this learning -- we will continue to feel the pain we create for ourselves based on our judgements, through our emotions.

I no longer have any judgements, because I know that I don't know the whole picture; I don't know what the Creator intended who to learn what and when! Who does??! Who is that arrogant??! We all are, everyday, through our emotional responses that our ego triggers through its judgements. Since these Judgements filter through our ego - that is the reasoning behind the goal to be less of an ego and more of our higher selves.

The next time you feel emotional pain, it is not your ego's "reason" for feeling it -- in reality is the mechanical result of judging and finding something guilty - where you had no right to judge at all. No one ever does. There is experiences and processes -- nothing more ....

When I see an "attack" or confrontation - it is what it is - not how I judge it to be. I use my intuition to determine if I can create a better outcome for the individuals involved in the altercation, but often the case is the altercation itself, is the greatest teacher for all involved.

I have so much to add, but I'll take questions and attacks on my perspective and try to respond from here, if there are any.

[DeDukshyn]

Alright, a bit more ...

The addiction:

Emotions are triggered by the ego via judgements (there is another trigger - not talking about that though) - agree or not, this is true. A negative emotion triggers fear, and the instincual response the body has to fear is adrenaline, and adrenaline is pure energy for you body, better than sugar and oxygen combined. It is this rush that is addictive, because we are all actually starved for energy (another topic though), and crave for this surge of energy - end justifies the means. Some people get it through repeated patterns of experiencing things they fear, and others from things like extreme sports, and even others from just running through emotional fictional scenarios in their heads while remaining "appropriate" in action and expression - but they still have the addiction.

Get rid of the emotional response by giving less attention to the ego or by quitting judging any external situation and you reduce transport system of the supply of that to which you are addicted.

[Strat]

The emotional body is also a big fat coward.

I really liked that, well said. And DeDukshyn, that last post was incredible, thanks for sharing.

I know what you folks are saying and I'm trying to keep my emotions under wraps. It's hard! I realize that it takes work or else I won't see results. I try to meditate every day, though my track record is more like every other day.

In this life it's just so easy to be judgmental and have emotional responses. The crowd I hang out with is very much unlike this one, I believe this stunts my spiritual growth. You guys really help to bring it back up though, God bless.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Dedukshyn covered the basics well and I will not elaborate.

I only offer my most recent experience. I have had a personal setback lately. The details are on another thread and are not pertinent here. I was swept away on a wave of emotions and I could only wait until my rational faculties could reassert some semblance of calm. Then I went into meditation to access higher wisdom. There I was informed that the time for relying on raw emotion, for me, was no longer appropriate. I was asked if I could just try NOT THINKING.

Again, I won't go into details but my journey has been about becoming aware of and pointing out all the bad in this world. This had to do with trying to impress my father who just would not engage in these discusions with me. So I used a negative approach with him for attention. This stuck with me and I have become an expert on all things bad. Hardly anything wrong with the world escapes me. That takes a lot of judgements and illustrates a lot of false beliefs. I wake up and my mind immediately begins its diatribe - there is always something to bitch about and I did.

So now I am consciously involved in not thinking, at all. I just feel, experience and do not judge. It is hard going, I have a strongly established habit to break.

But I already see results too. Less things go wrong - its the little things that used to bother me so. I used to be obsessed with the idea that I cannot control the physical in a positive way, duh. How could I when all I think about is the negative. It's a no brainer, really.

So I do not think anymore. Later I will begin a gratitude journal to turn my thinking around.
But one thing at a time.

Hope this helps.

[CivilDawn]

Trouble is, at some point in our lives we stop having new experiences and just keep regurgitating/running, the same emotions for the 'hit' that they give us. We dont even realize we are doing it. Its all automatic. Its all to do with the chemicals we run in our bodies. The adrenalin rush of anger for instance. The power of it, then the "Ahh" of cortisone, the release. The receiver of our outburst isn't feeling so hot, but we feel wonderful and relaxed. Then we are often very sorry to whomever we have shat upon and all settles down to calm again. But wait, gradually the emotional energy starts building again. We contain it for awhile cos that is the civilized thing to do, but something will trigger it and off we go again, spewing.

Its easy to see other people's emotional addictions, its a whole lot harder recognizing our own. We all have this tendency. Spiritual advancement is very much dependant on our ability to recognize, deal with, transcend our emotional addictions.



Wow this thread is something that fell into my hands at such a crucial time.

Six months ago I ended a four-year relationship with a girl that I love because my desire to be involved had dissapated. There seemed to be an endless power struggle of her trying to extract positive energy from me in order to fill in what she lacked. It seems to me after reading a good part of this thread that it may have a lot to do with this attachment/addiction to emotion (on both our parts), especially when she tells me "I make her feel bad" or "stupid".

Thanks for letting me ramble, I found an opportune moment to let out some steam :frusty:

[Carmen]

Um, this proverb is a bit off topic, but I think it is a great one, so I will post it here.

Ancient Arabian Proverb:

"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool!
Avoid him!

He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is simple,
teach him.

He who knows and knows not that he knows, is asleep.
Wake him."

He who knows, and knows that he knows, is a wise man.
Follow him.

[Carmen]

Bump, others might like to read this proverb.

[Lisab]

Carmen thankyou for this thread. Im not in a very good frame of mind tonight but this resonates. I think for me its a case of trying to unhook from the matrix and its constant. Breathe,breathe,breathe but it works! When I consciously breathe throughout my day it definately grounds me.I hear the wind in the trees and the gorgeous silence and it grounds me.But every now and then,like recently, if Im feeling anger or other negative emotions I just think to myself 'stay with the feelings'.I dont fight it anymore.But then theres other times like if Im worrying about my sales target in work and theres no chance of hitting it I just push the 'fck it' button and it all works out. Really last minute too when everyone else has given up! Lately though Ive been welling up with anger towards my little ones dad for various reasons but I need to stay with to work out why
Im definately of an addictive nature anyway so its a constant work in process for me. Im not very good at articulating myself so I hope more people contribute to this thread. Cant explain myself tonight!!! Thankyou Lisa x

[Carmen]

Lisab, you articulate very well, and you also, to me have the correct approach to emotional reactive thoughts that assail us from time to time. To be able to detach, not to avoid, and look at these emotions, dissipates them. When we just look/observe, with the 'light' 'attention', of our observer, our Great Self, the emotional body retreats. It has to, its game is up and it know it. Its been 'busted' :cool:

To reach that Inner Self, that place of Peace, is the place beyond emotions, beyond thought, and yet its the place in us where all things work for the good, for harmony. We don't have to do anything. We just have to get out of the way, to part the veils, then our God Self can do the work. When we have problems, frustrations, we have this tool now, to go to our Peaceful Centre and watch/observe as things just seem to work out in magical ways.

Think of the fabulous Intelligence that runs our body. We don't have to 'think' about it. Its all on automatic. Our heart pumps, our temperature stays at an optimum heat. Our immune system works constantly to ward off invaders. Our Great Self is sort of like that. It 'knows', and once we integrate our surface mind with our deeper Mind of God, we also 'know' It is then that we have this wonderful partnership, this marriage of self with Self. We become whole again, as we once were.

[hangel]

ulli wrote:

"I once knew this missionary who had moved to a reservation
to convert the members of the Guaymi Indian tribe to religion.
He discovered that the only thing they wanted from him was some cash
so they could experience for once what it would feel like to ride in a taxi.
Thats a fantastic example. Thank you. I laughed and it made me happy. "

I need a distance from myself.

Love and appreciation.

[Fred Steeves]

Our Spiritual Warrior starts to flex its muscles and take on our monsters, our cowardly emotional reactive devils. You will also have noticed that the person who habitually hits out at people in anger, never seems to take on an equal, only those with less strength than them. Thats the indicator of a coward. Once we find our Inner Spiritual Warrior, nobody takes us on. They recognize intuitively, the strength of Spirit.

Hi Carmen, that's some powerful, powerful mojo. I've begun to consciously notice and observe this to greater and greater degrees in typical daily life the last few months, and you are spot on. Excellent thread...:clap2:

Cheers,
Fred

[Carmen]

Thanks Fred. Great that you are Realizing your own Spiritual Warrior Self. You have need of it now, as we all are.

[ulli]

ulli wrote:

"I once knew this missionary who had moved to a reservation
to convert the members of the Guaymi Indian tribe to religion.
He discovered that the only thing they wanted from him was some cash
so they could experience for once what it would feel like to ride in a taxi.
Thats a fantastic example. Thank you. I laughed and it made me happy. "

I need a distance from myself.

Love and appreciation.

I'm very pleased this made you happy.
But please move the unquote to where it belongs:
After taxi , not after happy.

[Meesh]

Many people hold the belief that we must vent all anger in order to maintain good psychological health. Studies actually show that the venting of anger, especially through inappropriate means, actually increases arousal. Also, studies of co-rumination (extensively revisiting other peoples' "transgressions" against oneself) in adolescent girls show that rumination predicts poor psychological health. Cognitive research suggests that feelings of victimization are often the result of our own cognitive distortions--and have little basis in objective "reality"--whatever that is lol. Studies show that hostility is as good a predictor of future heart attacks as a past heart attack. The list goes on and on.

[ghostrider]

addiction is just a soul searching for something it doesn't know but, it knows something with the world is broken and they want no part of it. so any escape even if temorary is welcomed no matter the form or the bad karma that goes from it. it's just searching for a better way, a spiritual way, anything that mirrors a spiritual feeling an addict will welcome because in our true form we are all spirit.

[Carmen]

I've never noticed a lot of soul-searching in emotional addiction, or any sort of addiction. The soul-searching may come later when the life is in tatters, but not before when the emotions are in full flight.

We are not talking about drug addiction here, thats a whole different category and that is not the subject here. I have no experience of drugs or addiction to drugs, but I have of emotional addiction (as we all do) and what I did to transcend to a degree those addictions.

As we develop in consciousness the emotions that are still holding us back become more subtle and elusive, and not as obvious.