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truth4me
9th September 2011, 04:01
I've been reading about astral projection and OBE's. Now this is what happens to me when I astral project or I think it's astral projecting. I go into a deep sleep and I enter another world as clear as daytime the colors are real. I've set in a field touching the grass and looking at a beautiful old farm building. I've "flown" to my old place of employment and hovered over the machinery. It was just as real as I'm looking at this computer. That's just 2 recent ones . I've done this quite a few times. Now my OBE's are different. I sit up in my bed FULLY AWAKE! and turned my body and looked down and I was sitting up and my body was still lying there sleeping. 2 beings ,brownish appearing,in front of me try to push me back but I told them to stop and I said "you can hold me get back!".They backed off and I felt like pure energy.....There's more but lets get back to what the topic is about. The last 3 months are so I lay down and start relaxing not asleep mind you just relaxing and fully awake with my eyes closed. Now while my eyes are closed I start seeing another world. My eyes are closed and I'm awake yet another world appears from out of the darkness! Now Tuesday afternoon I was in this "state of mind" and found myself rowing a boat on a lake beside a small town. I was rowing towards the west and the sun plus another sun a little smaller and to the left were setting and it was beautiful! Now today I'm doing it again but this time a computer screen appears in this "other world" and starts scrolling down and I see symbols and numbers and such....This happens quite a bit and it freaks me out sometime. This to me isn't astral projecting or having a OBE. I have seen a grey alien face appear out of this darkness more then once also....anybody got any thoughts on this? I'm not posting this just to post, I really want to know whats happening.....

Vitalux
9th September 2011, 04:09
WOw..
sounds like a wonderful experience.

Are you taking any medications at all? Magic Mushrooms? LSD?

Sounds like something one would experience on Psilocybe Cubensis type mushrooms.

Lifebringer
9th September 2011, 04:10
Hmmm... your avitar shows a smaller planet also. If you aren't being harmed, then try to ask them who they are. In the most relaxed state, maybe someone is trying to tell you something, or you are remembering a past life. Beats me, but wow, i wish it was me.

truth4me
9th September 2011, 04:33
WOw..
sounds like a wonderful experience.

Are you taking any medications at all? Magic Mushrooms? LSD?

Sounds like something one would experience on Psilocybe Cubensis type mushrooms.
No drugs in my system at all. No alcohol . Now I do smoke cigarettes about a pack a day but that's it. This stuff is really happening to me and that's the kicker. I'm a very spiritual person. I try to treat people like I want to be treated. I'm just a guy with 2 kids plus a couple of grand kids . An average Joe so to speak. I'm stay away from doctors but I have no headaches or side effects of anykind. It's pretty cool but the computer screen stuff and the grey alien face appearing kinda freaks me out.

enfoldedblue
9th September 2011, 05:01
Thanks so much for sharing you amazing experiences. I believe this might be part of the process of waking up to our multi-dimensional selves. I haven't had exactly the same experiences, but what happens to me also happens when I'm deeply relaxed. To me it feels like the focus of my consciousness slips into one of the other aspects of my awareness. It used to happen for such tiny moments just as I was falling asleep...eg I'd hear a strange male speaking to me about something really mundane..as though I just slipped into someone else's conversation. But it would be so quick that I could barely grasp it. Now I notice this with more frequency and longer duration.

I also have been getting flashes of memories from childhood that I can only say feel multi-dimensional as well. Like staring out the window of a car and suddenly completely shifting awareness...like a sudden huge expansion of consciousness...like momentarily popping out of the box. It is like those amazing moments had been erased from my memory until now.

I find it exciting that these experiences seem to be getting stronger. I think we have been living in a very limited focus of ourself and as we re-awaken we are going to realize/remember that there is a lot more to us than we think....and we have actually been playing on a lot more levels than just this physical one!

ANyway that is how I see it...Hope it makes sense

LOVE ALLways, c

Dawn
9th September 2011, 05:31
This has happened to me numerous times over the years. Then it began happening to all the clients who called when I used to be an active healer (retired in the moment). My best understanding is that this is another aspect of you coming 'home' or re-integrating. The feelings of fear, or other trauma you might feel, are those you felt when that aspect split away. Usually the reintegration takes some time and always brings the 'gifts of awareness' that piece had when in the other reality. The integration can also take some time (months even) and can leave you with raw and sudden emotional reactions to things.

In the native cultures this is known as 'soul recapture' and is attended by a shaman. Usually the end result is that you are more powerful because more of you has integrated. I think many will be having this experience as the realities are coming closer together now.

Does this answer resonate with you? If it doesn't then it is not the information you are looking for. Remember that when asking others for a reflection or explanation... their answer must always feel 'true' to you or it is not correct for you. AKA: This is my understanding.... but it may not be correct in your case.

TraineeHuman
9th September 2011, 06:45
From what you have described, you seem to be a natural at OOBEs or astral travel. From one point of view, maybe there isn’t much to say other than: “Congratulations.”

Since Jake has recently been kind enough to make an online book of his on the subject available for free, I guess my first question would be whether you have read that book, and maybe people could take the discussion from there. Everything you describe sounds very typical of what I've experienced while astral travelling.

The only thing you need to be warned about is that you need to know how to psychically protect both your physical body and yourself while you are out of body. (Plus that you may find your body is briefly paralysed sometimes because you haven't completely finished returning into it.)

Negative energy always looks brown or black or blackish in colour, and if it seems to be interfering with your getting underway into an OOBE, usually that simply means it’s your own sub-conscious resistance – some kind of fear or whatever. Everybody encounters that -- perfectly normal.

The weird world that looks like it’s made out of symbols sounds very much like the fifth dimension. There are even stranger worlds than that, but since you are (apparently) a natural, you shouldn’t have any trouble discovering them. The worlds you travel through don't necessarily need to have scenery, or, at least, not trees and grass and so on.

You may also initially worry that you could get cut off from your body and never get back, but that is a completely groundless worry, let me assure you. When I first started astral travelling I would go to other planets of the solar system and beyond. I soon learnt to reassure myself because I could see the silver cord, which I soon came to see tied me to my body. When you travel a fair distance (such as to another planet), that cord gets stretched out and it's a blue-violet colour with very bright white nodes every few metres or so.

But as long as you protect yourself, why bother trying to analyse what is a perfectly natural human ability?

truth4me
9th September 2011, 10:41
From what you have described, you seem to be a natural at OOBEs or astral travel. From one point of view, maybe there isn’t much to say other than: “Congratulations.”

Since Jake has recently been kind enough to make an online book of his on the subject available for free, I guess my first question would be whether you have read that book, and maybe people could take the discussion from there. Everything you describe sounds very typical of what I've experienced while astral travelling.

The only thing you need to be warned about is that you need to know how to psychically protect both your physical body and yourself while you are out of body. (Plus that you may find your body is briefly paralysed sometimes because you haven't completely finished returning into it.)

Negative energy always looks brown or black or blackish in colour, and if it seems to be interfering with your getting underway into an OOBE, usually that simply means it’s your own sub-conscious resistance – some kind of fear or whatever. Everybody encounters that -- perfectly normal.

The weird world that looks like it’s made out of symbols sounds very much like the fifth dimension. There are even stranger worlds than that, but since you are (apparently) a natural, you shouldn’t have any trouble discovering them. The worlds you travel through don't necessarily need to have scenery, or, at least, not trees and grass and so on.

You may also initially worry that you could get cut off from your body and never get back, but that is a completely groundless worry, let me assure you. When I first started astral travelling I would go to other planets of the solar system and beyond. I soon learnt to reassure myself because I could see the silver cord, which I soon came to see tied me to my body. When you travel a fair distance (such as to another planet), that cord gets stretched out and it's a blue-violet colour with very bright white nodes every few metres or so.

But as long as you protect yourself, why bother trying to analyse what is a perfectly natural human ability?
I appreciate your reply. The one OOBE I described about the brown beings pushing me back---- let me go into that in more detail. After I told them you can't hold me back I rose above my bed feeling like pure energy and I remember telling them "I'm going to my Father". Now after saying that I looked straight up and shot threw the ceiling. I found myself looking down at planet earth and it looked about the size of a basketball. I felt free and strong yet I couldn't tell if I was on a ship or just hovering. I remember saying aloud "that is such an insignificant planet" and then I heard a female voice say"go back it's not time yet" and I shot straight into my body. That was 3 years ago....

<8>
9th September 2011, 12:33
Hi Truth4me...

I have not seen any brown beings yet, i do have a present who of late are quite disturbing. Let me put it this way, when you know there are something there. This have made it a bit harder for me to relax
and to enjoy my travels.

About closing your eyes and see and even experience things, seeing things are normal for me when i close my eyes. Not from my memories i got from this reality, mabye experiences from diffrent realitys
who knows. I did had an experience when i closed my eyes a few days ago that was new for me, i was relaxt but not tierd i was "awake" i closed my eyes and i was lying on a grass field, i could feel the heat from the sun the wind in my face and suddenly there's a girl in a white summer dress walking by real close. I get startled and my body jumps and i am back..

This was a thing that i really had forgotten about, before i read your post. Not quite sure if it helps you though..

Thanks....

Shamz
9th September 2011, 12:43
The only thing you need to be warned about is that you need to know how to psychically protect both your physical body and yourself while you are out of body. (Plus that you may find your body is briefly paralysed sometimes because you haven't completely finished returning into it.)


Hi there,
Can you please elaborate on this ? What measures should one take to protect the physical and non-physical self while having OBE ?

many thx

MariaDine
9th September 2011, 14:16
STOP SMOKING. :)
and...they are «feeding« you holograms.
Love
JO

<8>
9th September 2011, 14:24
STOP SMOKING. :)
and...they are «feeding« you holograms.
Love
JO



May i be so bold an say..Open your mind, and you will see the wonders of the universe..


much love...:)