Would you like to share your ancestry?

[ketturah]

With all the talk about bloodlines being of some importance according to some, I thought I would throw this question out there.(Charles/Atticus, Edward Alexander)

I can start. I am American, which usually means a mix. My father's side has been in America since before there were states.-English/Irish/German and mainly Welsh(the brown haired, brown eyed kind.) This side is traced back over 1000 years.

My Mom's side is Polish, Swiss(german speaking part), Hungarian and Indonesian.
I would think that most Americans have quite a mix. I think the whole pure bloodline thing is BS. It's interbreeding and that leads to genetic defects, not to mention some of the "royals" are very unattractive. ;)

[Arrowwind]

I think bloodlines are interesting because I feel that people reincarnate within family lines.
When I look at my husband who is the great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickman, who had 10 wives, and was the notorious Dante and assassin for Brigham Young, I wonder.........

I wonder many things.

[GCS1103]

Hi, Ketturah-

I'm an American also. My father's parents were born in Italy and came to this country when they were in their 20's. My family on his side is from Naples and Rome, so I am half Italian. My mother's family came from Russia and were Jewish, so I am a hybrid. ;) Both of my parent's were born in this country, but all four of my grandparents were immigrants.

[Lord Sidious]

I don't know all my bloodlines, but I do know my mothers side.
On her mothers side, we are Irish catholic as far back as we can go. Troublemaking buggers all the way.
We also have Danish from the husband of one of our female ancestors.
On her fathers side, there is English from Cornwall and some more Irish.
My father told me that on his fathers side, we were nobles in Lancashire and owned a large chunk of the county. The fortune came from the linen industry.

One ancestor I am proud as hell of is this guy.
http://www.ironoutlaw.com/assets/Gang_Hart.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hart

They say this is him after the police burnt down the Glenrowan Tavern, but he didn't die there.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7600000/Steve-Hart-dragged-from-Glenrowans-ashes-ned-kelly-7608440-408-306.jpg

This is the armour the police captured from our boys.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/2917/image002.jpg

And this is a genuine pic of our boys at large.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an14034948-v

This is a pic of the siege of the tavern.
http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2011/05/27/b3d1a8e7f969465ac5d15e7cadf06575_resized.jpg

[GCS1103]

I don't know all my bloodlines, but I do know my mothers side.
On her mothers side, we are Irish catholic as far back as we can go. Troublemaking buggers all the way.
We also have Danish from the husband of one of our female ancestors.
On her fathers side, there is English from Cornwall and some more Irish.
My father told me that on his fathers side, we were nobles in Lancashire and owned a large chunk of the county. The fortune came from the linen industry.

One ancestor I am proud as hell of is this guy.
http://www.ironoutlaw.com/assets/Gang_Hart.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hart

They say this is him after the police burnt down the Glenrowan Tavern, but he didn't die there.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7600000/Steve-Hart-dragged-from-Glenrowans-ashes-ned-kelly-7608440-408-306.jpg

This is the armour the police captured from our boys.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/2917/image002.jpg

And this is a genuine pic of our boys at large.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an14034948-v

This is a pic of the siege of the tavern.
http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2011/05/27/b3d1a8e7f969465ac5d15e7cadf06575_resized.jpg

The Kelly Gang sounds like the guys we had from the "wild west" years ago. I can picture you riding around with them on horses stirring up the citizens;)

[ketturah]

Very Interesting Lord Sideous! I left out the Danish part of my family because that was over 1000 years ago. I love that you have pictures.

[Lord Sidious]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

[D-Day]

I don't know all my bloodlines, but I do know my mothers side.
On her mothers side, we are Irish catholic as far back as we can go. Troublemaking buggers all the way.
We also have Danish from the husband of one of our female ancestors.
On her fathers side, there is English from Cornwall and some more Irish.
My father told me that on his fathers side, we were nobles in Lancashire and owned a large chunk of the county. The fortune came from the linen industry.

One ancestor I am proud as hell of is this guy.
http://www.ironoutlaw.com/assets/Gang_Hart.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hart

They say this is him after the police burnt down the Glenrowan Tavern, but he didn't die there.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7600000/Steve-Hart-dragged-from-Glenrowans-ashes-ned-kelly-7608440-408-306.jpg

This is the armour the police captured from our boys.
http://museumvictoria.com.au/pages/2917/image002.jpg

And this is a genuine pic of our boys at large.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an14034948-v

This is a pic of the siege of the tavern.
http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2011/05/27/b3d1a8e7f969465ac5d15e7cadf06575_resized.jpg

How extraordinary, it is indeed a very small world we live in Rob.
My grandmother, on my father's side, was born a Kelly (her surname changed to Day after she married my grandfather).
According to my great grandmother Kelly, Ned was my great, great, great uncle (I think that's right).
Looks like we may share some common bloodlines...

[ketturah]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

It's funny that you mention that, are you speaking of Jesse James? If so, after you posted, I began searching for my great-great-great grandfather's connection with Jesse James. I knew he was the Sheriff of Buchannon County when Jesse was killed. His name was Robert H. Thomas. I could not find any pictures of him. However, it is rumored in my family, that he is in the picture showing Jesse James in the coffin ( he is tall one in the middle). I don't know how to post pics here. It appears he had no involvement in the killing of Jesse James.

[ketturah]

Lord Sidious and D-Day, can you believe the synchronicity that just happened here? It's pretty amazing!

[Lord Sidious]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

It's funny that you mention that, are you speaking of Jesse James? If so, after you posted, I began searching for my great-great-great grandfather's connection with Jesse James. I knew he was the Sheriff of Buchannon County when Jesse was killed. His name was Robert H. Thomas. I could not find any pictures of him. However, it is rumored in my family, that he is in the picture showing Jesse James in the coffin ( he is tall one in the middle). I don't know how to post pics here. It appears he had no involvement in the killing of Jesse James.

So, we have another descendant of outlaws on avalon!
This pic the one you mean?


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FfetiF7C9vo/R3H4tE9FoMI/AAAAAAAABRU/8v_vLJ8nNJA/S760/In%2Bcoffin.JPG

[ketturah]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

It's funny that you mention that, are you speaking of Jesse James? If so, after you posted, I began searching for my great-great-great grandfather's connection with Jesse James. I knew he was the Sheriff of Buchannon County when Jesse was killed. His name was Robert H. Thomas. I could not find any pictures of him. However, it is rumored in my family, that he is in the picture showing Jesse James in the coffin ( he is tall one in the middle). I don't know how to post pics here. It appears he had no involvement in the killing of Jesse James.

So, we have another descendant of outlaws on avalon!
This pic the one you mean?


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FfetiF7C9vo/R3H4tE9FoMI/AAAAAAAABRU/8v_vLJ8nNJA/S760/In%2Bcoffin.JPG

Yes, just a family rumor, because there are no names of men pictured with Jesse. Except, my great-great-great grandpa was Sheriff Robert Thomas. He didn't kill Jesse, just posed for pic.

[Lord Sidious]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hello Everyone,

I will weigh in....

Even if this is for information gathering by the PTB, I don't care, it's all out there anyway.

I am a 5th generation Australian.

On my Father's side, all English back to the 15th century. Some Scottiish (my Grandmother), some Danish.

On my Mother's side, German and Irish.

Someone in my line of direct ancestry was a major whistleblower in the 1800's in Oz against the Macarthur Family. Aussies interested in Oz history may be interested. PM me if you would like to know more.

Cheers,:wave:
Lily

[ketturah]

Thanks for everyones responses.

[Davidallany]

My ancestor's city is called Anah it's located west of current Iraq along the banks of the Euphrates river. They are Canaanites. The city has been since the time of the Assyrians. It is named to honor the goddess Anat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat
http://www.pleasantfluff.com/2009/07/19/the-origins-and-gradual-adoption-of-monotheism-amongst-the-ancient-israelites/
http://www.andypryke.com/twiki/pub/Andypublic/BlogJanuary2007/door_guardian.jpg
http://www.andypryke.com/twiki/pub/Andypublic/BlogJanuary2007/ishtar.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Milkau_Oberer_Teil_der_Stele_mit_dem_Text_von_Hammurapis_Gesetzescode_369-2.png
http://bystander.homestead.com/600Nebuchad_text.jpg
Nebuchadnezzar I supplication among many other artifacts at the British museum.

[ketturah]

I think bloodlines are interesting because I feel that people reincarnate within family lines.
When I look at my husband who is the great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickman, who had 10 wives, and was the notorious Dante and assassin for Brigham Young, I wonder.........

I wonder many things.

I have also wondered about reincarnation within the same family....example: a few months ago, my young daughter picked up a child sized accordion we have, spent about 30 minutes messing around on it, and then started playing the song "Born this Way" by lady gaga on it. No one taught her to play the instrument, no one taught her the song. I was kind of astonished because I don't play any instruments at all. I asked her Dad, who did take lessons as a child, how is that possible? He said, "if you know how to play piano, you can play accordion." But that explaination is not good enough for me. His mother who died in 1975, when he was three, was an accomplished accordionist.

I wonder if it's his family genetics coming through, or something else?

[Curt]

Has anyone used Ancestry.com as a resource? I've used it, and have found that much of the research had already been done by the Mormon church and others. Found out some interesting stuff about what my "real" surname would have been had my great grandfather not been adopted. It turns out, if I am to believe the lore about this surname, that it was granted to my ancestors for having fought bravely alongside Joan of Arc against the English.

[ktlight]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

Mick Jagger starred as Ned Kelly in a movie not so long ago?

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[Lord Sidious]

The Kelly gang was very much like the James/Coles-Younger gang, they mainly attacked the wealthy and government targets.
When they did get good payoffs, they shared it around the area with their friends and kinsmen, again like the James gang.
And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

Didn't Mick Jagger star as Ned Kelly in a movie not so long ago?

Define ''not so long ago'' the movie was around 1970!

[ktlight]

Didn't see the movie but I do remember it was around. 'Not so long ago' relates in my memory. Stop picking. I hardly remember the year I was born, in terms of dates.

[<8>]

Hi guys...

One part of me hate to admit this, but on my Mothers side are well documented research all the way to "A" Templar Knight.
It was my Mother's uncle who did all the research, this was before the internet he did this, so he spend a lot of money on this.
And i remember how proud he was to show me this, i dont have the information about the names years and so on.

To be honest, i have never really been interested.

http://www.stellanonline.com/arn21x.jpg



On my Faders side i have less information.

The one thing i do know is that my grandfather died in the Finish winter war (1939-1944)

http://www.krigsforum.se/forum/download/file.php?id=558&sid=aa95920db316353d2a29e1f04ded58f9

Then my Fader was send alone to Sweden.
Finnish winter war pictures children was sent to sweden alone with name tags


http://terve.rossi.se/img/vinterkrigsbarn_230x380.jpg

[Lily de Cuir]

I think bloodlines are interesting because I feel that people reincarnate within family lines.
When I look at my husband who is the great great grandson of Wild Bill Hickman, who had 10 wives, and was the notorious Dante and assassin for Brigham Young, I wonder.........

I wonder many things.

I have also wondered about reincarnation within the same family....example: a few months ago, my young daughter picked up a child sized accordion we have, spent about 30 minutes messing around on it, and then started playing the song "Born this Way" by lady gaga on it. No one taught her to play the instrument, no one taught her the song. I was kind of astonished because I don't play any instruments at all. I asked her Dad, who did take lessons as a child, how is that possible? He said, "if you know how to play piano, you can play accordion." But that explaination is not good enough for me. His mother who died in 1975, when he was three, was an accomplished accordionist.

I wonder if it's his family genetics coming through, or something else?

Hello ketturah,

My son also has traits from long ago ancestors, not from me nor his father or grandparents, but from generations back on my side of the family. It's almost like my son is his ggg grandfather to a tee, same talents and interests. No other explanation for it. Mmmmm....:der:

Cheers,
Lily

[ktlight]

On my father's side, there is Catholic Irish from Cork, going way back, emigration to Pennsylvania, USA.
My mother was English, with an English mother and a South African father, who had a Scottish father and a Bantu mother, who came from the South Seas.
I don't know what to believe, as it was told to me.
I was also told that my father was an Irish rebel, but I have proof that he was in the English army.

I have an Irish temper, which is more under control, as the years go by.

[Lily de Cuir]

On my father's side, there is Catholic Irish from Cork, going way back, emigration to Pennsylvania, USA.
My mother was English, with an English mother and a South African father, who had a Scottish father and a Bantu mother, who came from the South Seas.
I don't know what to believe, as it was told to me.
I was also told that my father was an Irish rebel, but I have proof that he was in the English army.

I have an Irish temper, which is more under control, as the years go by.

I blame my temper on my Irish Grandmother....lol, except I just get louder the older I get, just like she did! (Nice to be able to blame our bloodlines, takes the pressure off). Just joking folks! Mmmm....maybe not!

Cheers,
Lily

[ktlight]

And, Lily, you have an Irish sense of humour.

[Ria]

Hm, it is a little patchy. On my Mothers side, her Mother told me many stories.
On the female side there were Irish, Welsh, French and she would say in a whispered voice there might be a bit of Gypsy, and what ever English stands for?
The French was a noblemen avoiding being guillotined married a welsh lady of means, left her pregnant and stole all her money, I think emigrated. Nice man, shame he didn't get the guillotine.
My maternal grand mother went on to say that her father hated his step father [his own having been killed] and ran away to sea, witch was India at the time, aged 13, found his way back to England home of his father, I think his mother might of been half Indian.
My grandmothers grand parents reluctantly agreed to marry there daughter as he had no means, but could see they were in love, it was not uncommon for him to walk from London to Brighton to see her. ....... do you here more?

[Ria]

Sorry, bad grammar and spelling. Do you wont to hear more.

[spiritguide]

Native American..Abanaki (Northeast), Normand French.....Sur name family motto "Qui ce pique, ce frappe." from coat of arms... this bloodline originated in Norway many centuries ago. Maternal is native american and paternal is Normand. Land owners in France and land Stewards in America. We are all one!

[ktlight]

Sorry, bad grammar and spelling. Do you wont to hear more.

Yes, I do, Ria. But if that Frenchman was a part of your ancestry and he got what you wish he had, you would not be here.

[ghostrider]

I am the proud great, great grandson of Nancy Ward. Her real name is I won't spell this correct but here goes NA Ha NI HI a great cherokee woman who taught the english settlers how to make butter and corn and such. she was an inkeeper and gave shelter to strangers and kept the honest white man from being scalped One of the klans was on the war path and enroute to crush an enemey and passed through her village and the braves turned on the pale faces and she came running out and saved hundreds from a certain death . To the white settlers she was a hero in the new world. She has a monument and a beautiful garden spot in Chattanooga Tn. I visited there and the sign at the entrance is written is cherokee and I was able to read it and tell the story to those with me and I don't read Cherokee but, it freaked me out I knew exactly that was written. My brother spent two years tracking our family tree and we ended up in Chattanooga. My fathers side is Irish, so I'm an Irish/cherokee mutt. weird I'm passive 90 percent of the time , but piss me off and my short temper is ugly, thanks to spiritual enrichment I keep my anger put down with ease. People in my circles are always saying no matter what happes I'm never too high or too low , always even keel. they can't deal with it , they want me angry when they are, and sad when they are , I'm mostly happy all the time. God bless the grandmothers, and mothers of the world= real treasure !

[Lily de Cuir]

Native American..Abanaki (Northeast), Normand French.....Sur name family motto "Qui ce pique, ce frappe." from coat of arms... this bloodline originated in Norway many centuries ago. Maternal is native american and paternal is Normand. Land owners in France and land Stewards in America. We are all one!


As the Aborignals in Australia say, we ALL have red blood. We are all one.

Cheers,
Lily

[sumkat]

welsh, scottish,german austrian,with a few more thrown in for a nice mix,and ya know,i've never been interested in my ancestry,although i have some illustrious charactors among them,..elbridge gerry,who was a signer of the constituition,and funded the revolution,he also refused to sign the constituition untill a bill of rights could be added to it,one of the rebels who founded this country,him among others,strange i never really cared to go deeper into family history,on my grandmothers side some in the court of the hapsburgs,some coinventors of the xray,and on,and on,me..i'm just a stray mutt,with no desire to look back at my own,..curious,though that i've never cared,or felt a connection to...

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I was spawned from tigers blood and Adonis DNA :)

[Mark]

I was spawned from tigers blood and Adonis DNA :)

You must be one of those Estevez kids. ;)

African, Choctaw, English, French and something else. None of those should have left me with B+ blood according to my research, since it is generally an Asian bloodtype, but I've got it nonetheless. I AM the Rainbow Tribe. :)

[Jake]

And, yet again, they also had so much local support, the police couldn't get informants to give them up.

That is funny that you said that!! In my family, they have always told that my great Aunt Dell used to hide the James boys out in her barn, in Oklahoma. Frank was very shy, Jesse,,, not so much. ;) Aunt Dell died with a shotgun in one hand and her whiskey flask in the other. Not sure that is true, but that is how they tell it.

I am Cherokee, Bird Clan. :)

[joedjemal]

I'm a real mongrel. English, Turkish, Irish, Scottish Celt, Norman, Italian, Huguenot and a bit of black African I think.

[EsmaEverheart]

I am English, Irish and Cherokee. Everyone from Oklahoma is part Cherokee. :p

[Unified Serenity]

This is an interesting thread. It's really fun to learn about our lineage especially when we find a direct link that leads to a bread crumb trail that goes way back. My lineage was traced back to at least 2500 B.C. because of such a crumb trail and the geneologist got tired basically and finally said, so and so son of Zeus son of Mother Gaia, LOL. The thing that set off that trail was we found that through one family connection we were direct descendents of William the Conquerer and Charlemagne, which lead to Otto of Saxony a Roman Emperor I believe, and then there was a trail off to some King of Persia. My recent lineage goes on my mother's side of Pennsylvania Dutch (German), the Thompsons of Scottland, and on my father's side his dad was strick English Heritage and his mother was half French (Poupour's) and Northern Italian (Cazzazzi's). Oh, and supposedly we were directly related to the founders of Duke University and I could have gone there for free had my parents taken advantage of some clause, but I've never tried to verify that tidbit. So, I am a Hines 57 mutt.

I have no idea of reincarnation in the bloodline, but damn, I'd hate to think I have direct blood of thousands on my hands, but more than likely I do as I have a warrior's mentality and a strong desire for justice and lifting up the people. William and Charlemagne were very interesting in their approach to leading the people, education, and justice. They also did a lot of fighting as all rulers did back then.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Otto_the_Great.jpg/220px-Otto_the_Great.jpg
Otto the Great

http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/images/96apr/charlemagne.jpg
Charlemagne

http://myfamilyclans.com/gthumbs/e54.jpg
William the Conqueror... My father looks very similar to William.

[OnyxKnight]

My ancestor's city is called Anah it's located west of current Iraq along the banks of the Tigris river. They are Canaanites.

Hmmm... The original Hebrew huh? :)

[Ivanhoe]

My mother's side of the family is English, German, Dutch and her father was 1/2 Cherokee and her mother 1/4 Cherokee (both born in East Tenn.).
My father's ancestors are Scottish and Irish (they settled in East Tenn. [around the Clinch mountain] also).
There was a "black" Uncle John Ogen so I have a smattering of African as well.

[OnyxKnight]

I have only managed to find out partially where my family line extends. I plan on expanding this knowledge further when I have the time, energy and money for it lol.


Generally, I consider[ed] myself (and am considered by others) as Slavic, with a Macedonian dominant ethnic background.

But as I started digging up on the family tree, it seems that like many others of you here, I am a very mixed. Quite a genetic composition.



From my father's side:

* Overall genetic inheritance: The wild, straight hair, the sensitivity to stress, and the overall hard arse attitude;

* Ethnic lines:

Macedonian 27%

Serbian 23% (my grandmother is Serbian, from Kraguevac)



Here it got more interesting and I got more results



From my mother's side:

* Overall genetic inheritance: Sensitive skin, sensitive eyes, sensitive teeth, but one heck of an immune system, and I seem to heal a bit faster than the average person, usually with just minor scars, even though the injury might be quite dire;

* Ethnic lines:

Macedonian 14% (mainly passed by my only living grandfather, who married my grandmother (daughter of a Russian/Macedonian woman living in the same region, and Spanish/Middle-Eastern man)

Russian (apparently Yakut) 6% (great great grandmother, from what i can tell, her family has been in that are for a long time, so I gave up digging more, the ancestors should be Russian Turkic people)

Hungarian (Hunic) 4% (great great grandfather, married a Russian maid in Sakha, still researching the rest of his background, he seems to be composite as well)

Spanish (Basqian) 12% (Twin brothers immigrating to the Balkans in 1898, one of them, becoming my great, great, grandfather)

Spanish (Other/Uknown) 9% (a line passed from the twin brothers' mother, still researching her)

Pakistani (Muhajir) 3% (great great great grandmother, giving birth to a girl that later marries my great, great, grandfather Diego, from Spain, who is the father of my great grandfather Milan, father of my only living grandfather;s wife) - so complex...

Egyptian (Alexandrian) 2% (great great great grandfather, marrying my Pakistani great great great grandmother)



I hope I put everything in order. Its very confusing, I know. Even to me. Perhaps because I see this in English form for the first time lol.

[Morgaine]

This is a great post! So interesting to read about other members ancestry (especially Lord Sid's...fascinating!)
I am a 10th generation New Zealander on my mother's side. It's almost all completely Irish with a bit of English thrown in, and even some Scandinavian which balances out the alcoholism gene quite nicely...hehe. :p
My mother's ancestors were some of the first settlers on the north shore of Auckland, infact they founded Devonport and owned much of the land along the coastline. You can still go there today and visit the grave stones and read about them. Unfortunately none of their fortune filtered down to my mother, and she spent much of her childhood living in conditions reminiscent of Frank McCourts Angela's Ashes. But that's another story....
My Dad has mainly Irish and English ancestry again, with the most interesting ancestor being a man by the name of Sir Leander Starr Jameson, who was well thought of by his contemporaries. He was a close friend and cohort of Cecil Rhodes (don't mention the war) and together they orchestrated The Jameson Raid, which was a disastrously failed attempt to overthrow the Boers in an area of South Africa that they wanted to gain British Control over. Winston Churchill later cited The Jameson Raid "major factor in bringing about the Boer War of 1899 to 1902."
Despite all this Leanderr Starr was held in high esteem by nearly all who met him, having inspired comments like: "Whatever one felt about him or his projects when he was not there, one could not help falling for the man in his presence...."
Astonishingly, Rudyard Kipling admired him so much, that in his autobiography Kipling states that his famous poem IF was "drawn from Jameson's character" Amazing!

EDIT: I meant to add one more quote, which I really enjoy...
".... He wrapped himself in cynicism as with a cloak, not only to protect himself against his own quick human sympathy, but to conceal the austere standard of duty and honour that he always set to himself. He was ever trying to hide from his friends his real attitude towards life, and the high estimate he placed upon accepted ethical values... He was essentially a patriot who sought for himself neither wealth, nor power, nor fame, nor leisure, nor even an easy anchorage for reflection. The wide sphere of his work and achievements, and the accepted dominion of his personality and his influence were both based upon his adherence to the principle of always subordinating personal considerations to the work in hand, upon the loyalty of his service to big ideals. His whole life seems to illustrate the truth of the saying that in self-regard and self-centredness there is no profit, and that only in sacrificing himself for impersonal aims can a man save his soul and benefit his fellow men"

All this makes me wonder how much we truly carry down through each generation. I'd like to think that I have inherited some of Leander Starrs better qualities, as well as some of those from the hard working and good natured Irish on both sides too. (alright, and some not so good ones...)
A close friend of mine once said rather wittily when observing a young lady of rather unfortunate appearance..."Ahhh, the tragedy of genetic inheritance." Which sounds mean I know...but I have to admit it's quite true...hehe
It's so interesting to me that whenever I hear Irish music or see photos or film about Ireland, I feel a strong pull and sense of emotion. Would I feel this had I no awareness of my Irish ancestry I wonder. Even more interesting is that as a New Zealander, an inhabitant of a relatively young country with a very short history involving European settlers anyway, the lack of ingrained culture can leave one feeling a bit bereft in terms of a sense of belonging here. I feel more of an affinity towards the Irish sometimes than I do towards my own place of birth.

Here is the link about Leander Starr Jameson for those who are interested...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leander_Starr_Jameson

I've had great fun reading through this thread today...thanks for the great idea, and the opportunity to share some of my family history.

Morgaine.

[WhiteFeather]

Father Full Italian, Mother Italian, Irish and American Indian. As far as Im concerned I'm American but i love that i have some american indian in my blood.

[Ria]

Hi, carrying on from post 28
My mothers fathers side came from the west of Ireland and mingled with the Danish long time back.
my great grand father was a Reverend in Ulster,on to out side Dublin, on to Yorkshire. Rev Richard Huggard M.B.E. MA. BA. Noted for setting up the rugby club in Barnsley, referee games between England and Ireland.
Sons: Lieutenant Hewitt Huggard fell at Gallipoli
Captain Lewis Dudley Richard Huggard also died at 23.
both Oxford grads. The daughters were a determined steely lot, One spoke and translated books into twelve languages into her nineties, another Matron in a London Hospital, another had her own School, all formidable.
My Grand Father,the youngest son, went to Charter House aged six offered scholarships to Oxford, for maths and history aged fifteen.
All educated on scholarships.
My G Father rebelled against his father, marring my G Mother for not being a blue stocking, getting married in a registry office, turning up in a van pilling out the back, her wearing a black hat and green coat, this was his up yours.
My G Mother, one of the kindest people in my life, told me my G Fathers Mother family was land and gentry and with shame told me, how the workers went on strike for more pay. The family decided to go on holiday till the fuss had died down, on return the workers were staving and went back to work. Seeing my grandmothers disscunfahrt at the treatment of these people I distance my self from asking the family name or the time frame.
My Grand Father warned my Mother, be very weary of the Free Masons, has links to Jack the Ripper. NOW it makes sense.
I wonder what els he new?

[Jean-Marie]

On My Fathers side they took care of the family tree and had it back to Count Fulk of Anjou who was in the first crusades and after the crusades was given Jerusalem to rule. King of Jerusalem, Protector of the Holy Sepulcher. Using Ancestry.com I have it all the way back to 600bc. King of the Franks. More recently in my fathers line is the Pikes that Climbed Pikes peak

On my mothers side we do not have too much work done on it. We are related to Annie and Big Jim Oleary (Chicago Fire)

My husbands family goes back to Eric the Red.

It is really fun once you get started looking into it!

And when I was using google to find out about the house of Plantagenents I found this.......

male-line ancestry of the Capetians of France & the Plantagenets of England from the Gallic Heracleidae

01. ALBIORIX "GALATES", 1st Celtic Emperor, c. 1150BC, son of the epic Greek hero HERCULES and the Gallic Queen Galatea Keltine, only child & daughter of Narbos Celtae, last male-line descendant of the Old Celtic Royal House; begot
02. Arbonus, bro of Camulos, King of Britain

03. Lugdus

04. Beligios

05. Jasius

06. Janigenas

07. Allobrox

08. Romus

09. Paris

10. Lemannus

11. Olbius

12. Galates II, fl. c 750BC

from whom descends

01. AMBIGATUS "THE GREAT", "the Celtic Charlemagne", 1st King of Gaul, c 500BC

from whom descends

04. Galates III, deposed c 400; had two sisters

05. Namnes, restored c 375

from whom descends

08. AKICHORIX "THE GREAT", King of Gaul, c 300/250BC

09. Brennus, bro of Belgios

10. Eporedorix, King of Gaul c 250BC

issue:

a. Concolitanus (d225BC)

b. Aneroestus (d225BC)

c. Viridomarus (d221BC)

11. Concolitanus, King of Gaul (d225BC)

issue:

a. Aritasgix

b. Anextiomar

c. Ambisagrix

12. ARITASGIX [ORTIAGONE], King of Gaul, c 200BC

= Chiomara

issue:

a. Luxovinus

b. Luernus

c. Lugodumnus

13. Luxovinus

= Brixia, a British princess

14. Moritasgus, King of Gaul c 150BC

15. Bituitus, King of Gaul, defeated & deposed by the Romans 122BC

16. Congentiatus, King of Gaul c 100BC

issue:

a. Divitaticus [Divico], King of Gaul, = twice; begot 2 sons of 1st wife

b. Fonteius, governor 79-76BC

c. Boduognatos [Boduogus], father of Indutiomarus [Indutius]

17. Fonteius, governor 79-76BC

issue:

a. dau

= uncle

b. Ambiorix "The Heroic Gaul"

c. dau

= Celtillos, the parents of Vercongetorix, last King of Gaul, deposed 52BC, executed 46BC, whose sons & daus disappear

18. AMBIORIX "THE HEROIC GAUL", King of Gaul 53BC

19. [...]oroix, governor c 40-35BC

1= Cesair [II]

issue:

a. Ante[...], governor

b. Cesair [III], wife of Ugaine "Mor", King of Ireland

20. ANTE[...], governor

21. Sacrovir, claimant AD21

= Aeduana

ten generations

32. Solinius, nephew of Rian[…], a Gallic prince, who claimed descent from the Gallic Heracleidae, that is, the pre-Roman Gallic high-kings, who claimed descent from Galatea-Keltine, Queen of Gaul, only child and heiress of Narbo Celtae, King of Celts (1250BC), the last male-line descendant of SAMOTHES, 1st King of Celts (2050BC), and the Greek epic hero HERCULES; which would make Solinius descended from Sacrovir, a Gallic prince, son of Ante[…], governor, son of […]oroix, governor, circa 40-35BC, son of Ambiorix "The Heroic Gaul", who fought Julius Caesar 53BC

33. Flavivus, notary 369, magister officiorum 379, prefect 381, consul 382

34. Zelopius, a bishop

35. Hilarius, a bishop; failed in attempt to revive the Old Gallic Monarchy in AD 445

36. Afranius, Governor of Gaul (d457)

37. Aegidius, Governor of Gaul (d461/4) [id. with "Count Gilles" of medieval French romance]

38. Syagrius, Governor of Gaul 464-486, independent from 476 (d487)

39. Agillius (fl. 490), bro of Accolone & Aganippus

40. Torquatus, 1st Count of Anjou, bro of Syagrius, Bp of Lyons (525), bro of Eliavres, 1st Count of Touraine, bro of Borellus, 1st Count of Maine, bro of Celynius, a bishop

= a non-European woman, identity unsure, called by locals "the Devil's daughter" because she was not Christian and practiced pagan rituals, whence the tradition arose that the Plantagenets were "Satan's Spawns"

41.Gauciolenus, bro of Geoffridus, Count of Anjou (531), bro of Desideratus, Bp of Verodunum (d550), bro of Pretextatus, Bp of Rheims (d552), bro of Syagrius, Bp of Rheims 552-570

42. Warnacharus, bro of Syagrius, a count [father of Nanthinus, Syagrius, Bp of Autun, & Gautierus], bro of Maracharius, Count of Angouleme

43. Gaucherus

44. Warner [I], Bp of Treves (d599)

= [name], dau of [name] of Toulouse, & wife Desiree, dau of Gundebald of Lyons

45. Liutvin [St.], Bp of Treves, bro of Warner II, Major Domo of France 613-627, bro of Landree, Major Domo (600)

46. Bodilon, bro of Erlebert, Robert (630) (below), Aldebert, & Ansoud, Bp of Poitiers

= Sigrada [his niece]

issue:

a. Warin, below

b. St. Leger, Bp of Autun, Major Domo d677/9

c. Didon, Bp of Poitiers 656-697

[note: Erlebert (above) was the father of Lambert (Landbert), Bp of Lyons (678), & Robert, Major Domo 654-663 & Bp of Tours 665-675, the father of Lambert, Bp of Maastrich 698-704 & [Theodon], the father of Lambert, Warner of Hornbach, & Adalard]

[note: another bro of Bodilon & Erlebert above, namely, Robert (630), was the father of Lambert (650), the father of Robert, Count of Arras, Bp of Worms, & Major Domo (d678), his bro Amalwine, &, another bro, Rotgar, Duke of Le Mans]

47. Warin, Count of Paris (d676/7), above

= Kunza, dau of St. Clodule

issue:

a. Lievin, Bp of Treves 693/704 (d713/717), the father of Guido, Bp of Treves 704-722, Millo, Bp of Treves (d751/7), & Hugue, Count of Paris

b. Grimbert, Count of Paris 691-710

c. Lambert (d715/725), below

48. Lambert (d715/725), above

49. Robert, Duke of Hesbaye 722-742

issue [twin sons]:

(a) Warin [male-line ancestor of the Plantagenets of England] &

(b) Mille [male-line ancestor of the Capetians of France]

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male-line descendants of Warin; followed by those of Mille

50. Warin, count in the Thurgovie (757) (d772), bro of Mille (below)

= Adelinda

51. Bouchard "The Constable", "Magister Palati" (d811)

52. Aubri, Count of Fezensac (d801), the bro of Hunfrid, Count of Istria (814-823), and Warin [I], Count of Auvergne (819), Macon (826), & Chalons (834) (d839)

53. Bouchard of Frezensac (d836), bro of Rodulfe, Duke of Turenne (d843), & Hardoin, Count of Neustrie (d862)

54. Geoffrey, Sire of Gatinais, bro of Aimery of Thouars, & Walter, Bishop of Chalons

55. Aubri I, Count of Gatinais (date) & Viscount of Orleans (886)

bro of Geoffrey of Charroux (890), & Walter, Arch-Bishop of Sens (887-924)

56. Geoffrey I, Count of Gatinais (d942), bro of Bettou, Bishop of Auxerre, & Walter, Arch-Bishop of Sens (924-928)

57. Aubri II, Count of Gatinais (d996)

58. Geoffrey II, Count of Gatinais (d985/7)

59. Aubri III, Count of Gatinais (990), bro of Bouchard [I], Count of Vendome (958), & Walter, Seigneur of St. Martin (990) [ancestor of the Mortimer Family]

60. Geoffrey III, Count of Gatinais (1000)

61. Geoffrey "Ferole" de Chateau-Landon (d1043/6), bro of Aubri IV, Count of Gatinais (1026), & Hugues, Bishop of Coustances

= Ermengarde, heiress of Anjou, etc. (d1076), sister of Geoffrey II "The Hammer", Count of Anjou (1040), Touraine (1044), & Maine (1051) (d1060)

62. Foulque IV [Fulke] "The Bad-Tempered", Count of Anjou, Touraine, & Maine (1069), abd (1103), (d1109), bro of Geoffrey III "Le Barbu" [="The Bearded"], Count of Anjou (1060-1069), who founds the 3rd Angevin dynasty

63. Foulque V [Fulke], Count of Anjou, Touraine, & Maine (1106), abd (1129), King of Jerusalem (1131-1142) (d1143), bro of Geoffrey IV, Count of Anjou, Touraine, & Maine (1103-1106)

64. Geoffrey V "The Handsome", nicked-named "Plantagenet", Count of Anjou, Touraine, & Maine (1129-1151)

= MATILDA, Queen of England (1141), only surviving child & daughter of King HENRY I of England

65. HENRY II, King of England [among numerous other titles], founds the Angevin [or "Plantagenet"] Dynasty

the ancestor of the succeeding Kings of England

[Ria]

Carrying from 28 to 45 .
I had to go and get a cup of tea.
My fathers back ground. His mother's father was french mothers mother dutch. His father dutch africans
My paternal grand mother spent her early life in the english concentration camps in south africa watching her mother and most of her siblings die.
My paternal grand father was a key figure in the Boer war.
After the war it was tuff, all homes destroyed, crops burnt, animals destroyed. There was nothing left and based on what my G mother went through in the camps, she hated the english. When my father was on his way to take part in the Common Wealth games in Canada. He stop over in London spotted my mother decided he was going to marry her. Wrote a letter to his mother asking for forgiveness saying she spoke english put was really Irish.
Irish French Welsh Danish Dutch English Indian

[Flash]

French from Normandy, French from Poitou, French from elsewhere, Dutch (I do look like a scandinavian, my mom too and the family history is that a boat of people not speaking the local language wrecked on the St-Lawrence Seaway. The local village recuperated the survivors, amongst them the captain, and they named them Pilote (for boat pilots). This family name is still strong in Quebec. My great grand mother said that when they landed from the boat wreck, she was around 4, her name was Darwar or something like this, now named Pilote).

When I got gene tested because of being pregnant and over 35, I was having a gene mutation that makes blood cloths easily, and this gene mutation is found from descendant from a small village in Holland, the only place this gene mutation occured on the planet. This is how I discovered that my great grand mother's boat was from Holland most probably.

Abenakis Indians and French from Normandy from my Dad side.

My family is amongst the first European settlers in North America. (Late 1500s). French Canadians. I do have dreams sometimes that I am a fur trader or an Indian woman. Must be my genes speaking to me.

[TWINCANS]

I love ancestry searches. I discovered that my poorest side were descended from the Howards (Dukes of Norfold, Boleyns etc.). My most-common-name in the UK side built the very odd Brighton Pavillion and much of Kensington&Chelsea. The most downtrodden were Icelanders who wrote and featured in many of the heroic sagas. These sodfarming, viking ancestors of mine were themselves descended from the Yngling Dynasty of Norway (same as Queen E2 comes from) direct descendants of Harald Hardrada who tuckered out the English Harold up at Stamford Bridge so that he lost to William the Conqueror 3 wks later down in Sussex, as William fought with my other side by his side.

[king anthony]

For what it is worth in brief.

My family is from Croatia for many many many generations (thousands of years ago?). I recall a family "myth", or simply a story told that my family had come from the region where ancient Sumer once was; I vaguely recall that, for some reason, the bloodline had fled.

I never gave it much thought until sometime in 2003 when I randomly discovered an island, off the cost of what was once ancient Sumer, with my family name on it. Since I found it, another name (or two was added). Supporting this find was material from the United States navy and a bird watching club whose logs were posted online.

This becomes weirder when I discover an online video game that had my family name as a major part of it (the land of...); at first, I dismissed this and then after a few years I went back and read about the factious game's people - their fighting style (which got my attention), their politics and such. Another coincidence in my life, that is until I began to put the pieces together - ancient Sumer.

I know that there was royalty in my family at some point; even in Europe. With all the things in my life that conventional logic cannot explain (weirdness), my life overall and what others have said to me - I cannot help but wonder if the weirdness is part of this bloodline past.

My family name is not common at all; either in Croatia or in the land where ancient Sumer once was. I did screenshots (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kinganthony/5459529317/in/set-72157627401658494) of the above said supporting material; good thing as it appears it is slowly fading away (online); once I "accepted" (within) what I was seeing. Does this mean anything to me or anyone - I would say not because who am I but another.

Despite all that has been made known to me (by "those others" and myself), all that I have witnessed and everything overall - I still have a difficult time accepting any of this; some here in this forum can all too well confirm this about me (left/right brain woo woo stuff). Readers of my words can conclude for themselves - if they so choose.

*POST EDIT*

I was born and live in the land known as Canada; I am a permanent resident by way of birthright.

[Dawn]

I will add mine in here. Starting with the husband I am almost through a divorce with after 38 years of marriage, then following with our daughter and just why we might have gotten married. It helps that I have clear recall of a number of past lives, and that my sister did in depth research for my side of the family.

Husband.... last name Pshevlozky, Americanized from Prezchlovzki (I think I may have it correct however it used Russian Characters in the original name)
1. My husband has an old locked of his grandfather, head of the Russian Tzar's army and the locket photo is a spitting image of him (I mean EXACTLY like he looks)
2. In 1350, the story goes, that 2 Polish brothers distinguished themselves in battle and the then Tzar rewarded them by making them head of the Tzar's army, the this title and office continued through the bloodline.
3. Almost his entire bloodline on his father's side was dragged from their ancestral home on red square (where generations lived together in something that looks like a Hyatt hotel across from the Tzar's old palace)in the Russian Revolution. They were all dragged out of the house and shot while my husband's father (who was 7 years old) was left alive and taken to be raised in a orphanage. When he grew up this man became a good soldier and was directly involved in the massacre of 15,000,000 Ukranians.
4. My husband spent me out of house and home and would not cease to stop living like a king, which is why I am now a pauper and why I am ending the marriage. He was spending $10,000 per month on restaurants, for example. I just could not make enough money to keep up with his spending habits. I have always wondered if he lived like this because he had been royalty in his last life.
Here is a photo of his ancestral home (I think it is the building on the Left in the photo)
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+red+square&view=detail&id=7120AEB16AF76EE02B534A11D17FA797512BE418&first=0&qpvt=pictures+of+red+square&FORM=IDFRIR


My Lineage
1) My Dad was from a long line of Celtic people living in the Ukraine in the Carpathian Mountains. His history includes men who fought with the Cosaks to remove Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes from Western European lands. I have almond eyes that look suspiciously Eurasion... and I have always thought somewhere my background on his side there was Mongol blood by rape. His mom was apparently a Gypsy who had developed psychic gifts. My Dad HATED (!!!) everything Russian because of the 15,000,000 Ukranians slaughtered in the genocide that occurred when the USSR took over the Ukraine by force. His parents were part of an underground railroad station receiving Ukranian refugees into the New York area and he had heard many awful stories about all of this as a young boy directly from survivors. Here is a picture of typical Carpathian Ukranians
http://library.kiwix.org:4201/I/250px_Carpatho_Rusyn_sub_groups_Transcarpathian_Rusyns_in_original_goral_folk_costumes_from_Maramure s_.jpg

My mother's side of the family is interesting. Her dad had the last name Lowe and he survived the potato famine by shipping to America on a steamer as a 13 year old boy. Once in the America he made his way across the country and laying brick, finally settling in Idaho, where all the old brick town and city buildings all over the state were made by him and his crew. The Lowes were the only Scottish clan to fight with the Irish and when they lost the war all the Lowe lands and the right to wear their plaid colors was taken from them. I learned a few years ago the he was the Grand Pupa in the Masons for the Western US (scary huh?) He played bagpipes like no one I've ever heard. Here is a photo of one of the city halls built by my Grandpa:
http://weiser.govoffice.com/vertical/Sites/%7BF060C6E6-0966-46C0-B9B9-67687E36D7EC%7D/uploads/%7B4A011D06-CD23-451E-94B8-872CDF953D92%7D_Web.jpg

My maternal Grandma had interesting bloodlines. In her background was Erythmey Foster, who came through Oregon in a covered wagon. She my great Grandfather for love, and as a result was disowned and erased from her family's bible. In her background are clearly traceable bloodlines to both Lakota Suix, and to an Illuminati bloodline which includes Charlemagne, and before him Enoch, and before him Hermes... all the way back to something called the 'Ovum of the Pleiades'. I have very developed psychic abilities and I have wondered if this is due to this bloodline. I have many, many memories of being killed and tortured repeatedly in the inquisitions during many lifetimes, as well as being a healer in both Native American villages, and in ancient Inca Villages.
Lakota Suix Woman:
http://ushistoryimages.com/images/lakota-sioux/fullsize/lakota-sioux-2.jpg

So, in summary, I have
1. Celtic roots (from Scotland and the Carpathina Mountains)
2. Illuminati roots from Egypt (back to the Ovum of the Pleiades)
3. Native American Lakota Suix

I am a glorious MUT and everything I overcome and become free of also frees up all these bloodlines (I like to think)

[Lord Sidious]

I love ancestry searches. I discovered that my poorest side were descended from the Howards (Dukes of Norfold, Boleyns etc.). My most-common-name in the UK side built the very odd Brighton Pavillion and much of Kensington&Chelsea. The most downtrodden were Icelanders who wrote and featured in many of the heroic sagas. These sodfarming, viking ancestors of mine were themselves descended from the Yngling Dynasty of Norway (same as Queen E2 comes from) direct descendants of Harald Hardrada who tuckered out the English Harold up at Stamford Bridge so that he lost to William the Conqueror 3 wks later down in Sussex, as William fought with my other side by his side.

Aha! Harald the hard ruler is my favourite Norse king.
He was the genuine article too.
Go check here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28675-The-Complete-Viking-Sagas.&p=290803&viewfull=1#post290803

[ketturah]

So far, I see a large representation of English and Irish, which is to be expected because their are alot of responses from people who live in US, Australia, New Zealand. I was not surprised by the amount of Native American mixes either. I am disappointed that besides me, there not any south east Asia mixes, there is one other Pacific Islander though. I think I recall a few middle easterners. I think Africans and Asians are under represented here. Maybe they just haven't commented?

I believe that our Dna is carrying bits and pieces of our Ancestors, not just our physical appearance and diseases we might be prone to, but more than that. Like Morgaine's feelings toward Ireland, or Lord Sidious's honeryness. I am delighted to know others here are proud of their mixed heritage, like I am. Thanks to all!

[Tane Mahuta]

On my fathers side...

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3169/honeheke.png

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/hone-heke-cuts-down-british-flagstaff-for-a-third-time

On my mother's side...

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5431/williamwallace.jpg

http://www.waichung.demon.co.uk/william/wallace.htm

Therefore I can be a bit of a mongrel(sometimes)

nuff said

TM

[Lord Sidious]

On my fathers side...

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3169/honeheke.png

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/hone-heke-cuts-down-british-flagstaff-for-a-third-time

On my mother's side...

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5431/williamwallace.jpg

http://www.waichung.demon.co.uk/william/wallace.htm

Therefore I can be a bit of a mongrel(sometimes)

nuff said

TM

What about sheepherders? :p

[TWINCANS]

On my fathers side...

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3169/honeheke.png

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/hone-heke-cuts-down-british-flagstaff-for-a-third-time

On my mother's side...

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5431/williamwallace.jpg

http://www.waichung.demon.co.uk/william/wallace.htm

Therefore I can be a bit of a mongrel(sometimes)

nuff said

TM

You get your good looks lfrom your father's side, Tane.

[Ria]

This is looking like a game of SNAP!

[OnyxKnight]

I think Africans and Asians are under represented here. Maybe they just haven't commented?

Yes, I think they just haven't commented yet. But if you take a detailed look, a lot of us do have some bits and pieces coming from Africa or the Middle East.

Anyway, I believe Egypt was in Africa, right? lol

There's one! :D


I believe that our Dna is carrying bits and pieces of our Ancestors, not just our physical appearance and diseases we might be prone to, but more than that. Like Morgaine's feelings toward Ireland, or Lord Sidious's honeryness. I am delighted to know others here are proud of their mixed heritage, like I am. Thanks to all!

Yes, mixed and proud. I'm probably a lot more mongrel than I have had the privilege to find out.

The first time I heard about anything other than Macedonian in my family background, I was like "what the hell were my ancestors thinking!?"

You soon grow out of it. I can't stop thinking about it now :)

Oh, btw, those 'feelings' you mentioned... I am immensely drawn to Africa. I dunno why. Its been that way, like, since forever.

[ketturah]

I think Africans and Asians are under represented here. Maybe they just haven't commented?

Yes, I think they just haven't commented yet. But if you take a detailed look, a lot of us do have some bits and pieces coming from Africa or the Middle East.

Anyway, I believe Egypt was in Africa, right? lol

There's one! :D


I believe that our Dna is carrying bits and pieces of our Ancestors, not just our physical appearance and diseases we might be prone to, but more than that. Like Morgaine's feelings toward Ireland, or Lord Sidious's honeryness. I am delighted to know others here are proud of their mixed heritage, like I am. Thanks to all!

Yes, mixed and proud. I'm probably a lot more mongrel than I have had the privilege to find out.

The first time I heard about anything other than Macedonian in my family background, I was like "what the hell were my ancestors thinking!?"

You soon grow out of it. I can't stop thinking about it now :)

Oh, btw, those 'feelings' you mentioned... I am immensely drawn to Africa. I dunno why. Its been that way, like, since forever.

Yes, I know Egypt is in Africa silly! I meant black people as a race. Also, I do not see Mexico, Central America or South America mentioned Here.
My whole life I have been asked "What are You?" by people I meet. I have been asked if I was: Native American, mexican, cuban, puerto rican, black mixed, Japanese, ect. My son was recently asked by a Saudi Arabian Officer, if he was Saudi. (by the way we don't even have brown eyes just a slight olive complexion and medium brown hair)

I have always been drawn to Hawaii and I am mistakened for a local there, lol.

[Billy]

This is one of my ancestors, A covenanter Martyred here in Scotland for speaking against the King in 1666, Totured and Executed in the streets of Edinburgh.

He was a bit of a poet also, and made his speach on the gallows,

Again Hugh MacKail appeared before the men with the power of Pilate, and they in Pilate weakness condemned him to die at the Mercat Cross of Edinburgh. But he who lived in the power of a deeper death, and had the sentence of it in himself, was borne with shining face down to the Tolbooth through the large crowds who openly wept as he passed. ‘Trust in God,’ he called to them, ‘Trust in God!’ Getting a fleeting glimpse of a well-known friend, he shouted in ecstasy, ‘How good is the news! Four days now until I see Jesus!’ In prison a merry thrill of joy was on him, making him humorous in serious hours. Someone asking him how his crushed leg was faring; he smilingly replied that the fear of his neck was making him forget his leg. And he averred that he was less cumbered about dying than he had often been about preaching a sermon! His old minister-father came to see him, and they strengthened and comforted each other in the love of the Father and the Son.

The night before his execution he went to rest at about eleven o’clock, and his doctor-cousin, Matthew MacKail, lay by him. Doctor Matthew had gone to Archbishop Sharp for help, but ‘the Judas in the Church’ had not forgotten, and his answer was, ‘I can do nothing.’ To this the doctor replied, ‘You mean, "I will do nothing."‘ Hugh was astir by five o’clock and awoke John Wodrow, the Glasgow merchant, who, with several other Covenanters, was to die beside him ‘Up, John,’ he said, smiling, ‘you and I do not look like men about to be hanged, seeing we lie so long.’ But, as one having no fellowship with the throne of iniquity, earnestly he prayed, ‘Lord, we come to thy throne, a place we hitherto have not been acquainted with. Earthly kings’ thrones have advocates against poor men, but thy throne has Jesus Christ an Advocate for us. Our prayer this day is not to be free from death, but that we may witness before many witnesses a good confession.’ His prayer was answered abundantly, and they who were seen in the weakness and scandal of the Cross showed forth the power of His resurrection.

http://www.magdalenchapel.org/covenanters.html

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?cov_mackail.htm

[JoshuaM]

Great thread.
Mothers side= 1/2 Irish and 1/2 Italian. Father= 1/4 Italian , 1/2 Prussian/German, 1/4 Czechoslovakian/or Polish

[Flash]

The first time I heard about anything other than Macedonian in my family background, I was like "what the hell were my ancestors thinking!?"



This one is very easy, they were thinking of love and sex. LOL

[davyj0nes]

this is such a neat thread. looking at all the ancestors i wonder how their lives must have been, all their trials, hardships, joys. I wonder what their thoughts were, wonder what they would say if we could bring them to our time.

[OnyxKnight]

The first time I heard about anything other than Macedonian in my family background, I was like "what the hell were my ancestors thinking!?"



This one is very easy, they were thinking of love and sex. LOL

Its either that, or somebody liked to play Ken and Barbie with a lot of my ancestors.

[Sidney]

Irish,German,English,Native American,Feline Pladean I think (maybe) LOL

[etheric underground]

I am Maori ( which stems back to tahitian royal bloodlines)
I am Irish/welsh ( which stems back to pagan clans and my name thomas goes back to the
7 sisters of eve. Where my Great, great great Grandmother came from the hills of tuscany)
My Tahitian line is mixed with Navajo indian and Mayan blood.
Yep ....Like most my D.N.A can be traced to most cultures at different times.

[sshenry]

Oh what fun! I love learning about people's family histories; just thinking of all the people who had to meet at just the right times in order for you to be sitting here - right here and now - it's amazing really :)

As for myself I'm 1/4 Hungarian, 1/4 American Indian, 1/4 Scottish, 1/8 Irish and 1/8 English.

I'm lucky that I have people on both sides of my family who are fascinated with family stories and who have pieced together my history. So bear with me.

On the Hungarian side (Mother's family) my Great Grandmother was a Rom, though she lied about her heritage in order to marry my Great Grandfather (whose family were Roman Catholics). They migrated to the United States just weeks before the outbreak of WWI. She denied accusations about her heritage until her deathbed when she finally admitted to having been the only daughter of her clan's Rom Baro (Big man, or chief) who had married the clan's Shuvani (wise woman/healer) and to having been a 4th generation Shuvani herself (or having been trained as such).

On the Scottish side (my father's family) there is another interesting story that traces our heritage back to one of the supporters of the Jacobian Rebellion (the attempt to put Bonnie Prince Charlie back on the throne) and, being on the losing side at the battle of Culloden, ran for his life. Literally leaving everything behind him and strking out for the New World, though he landed in the French port of New Orleans and continued North until he finally settled in what is now Missouri where he became a Trader with the Indians and married a woman from the Ossage tribe and lived happily ever after until he died.



The english and Irish and the rest of the Indian blood married into these two lines.

[Ria]

I would like to know more about Rom Buro.......... Clan 's Shuvani if possible
Thank you

[Davidallany]

Hmmm... The original Hebrew huh?
So it would seem.

[RMorgan]

I would surely love to know the origins of my last name, Morgan. I´m sure there´s a lot of Morgans in the UK, but that´s all I know...

[Star1111]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.


Nice Cousin........ and in the back! lovely ! :(

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I would surely love to know the origins of my last name, Morgan. I´m sure there´s a lot of Morgans in the UK, but that´s all I know...


Double check RMorgan, but I think Morgan is Welsh................. boyoh!

[<8>]

Dang am i the only Templar Knight here so far...:P

In hoc signo vinces - In this sign thou shall conquer
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/090915-lost-symbol-dan-brown-freemasons-book_big.jpg
Join my secret.bla bla bla..and thou shal.....

"JOKING"

P.s did i miss a fellow Knight..??

[sshenry]

I would like to know more about Rom Buro.......... Clan 's Shuvani if possible
Thank you

I don't know much about them to be honest, as to clan names etc. All I have are the few stories that my Great Grandmother passed on just before she died. I DO know that I connected with her immediately the first time I remember meeting her (I was about five years old). She was always showing me "tricks"; mostly herbal and healing type things as well as explaining how to cook food with "intent" (if you wanted results). And she'd always end with "now don't tell anyone about it, they might think you are shuvihani" I had no idea what she meant, but I liked having secrets with her, so I kept quiet. She died when I was 16. She was 99 years old.

One of the stories she told was about how her father (the Rom Buro) had fallen in love with the clan's Shuvani (her mother) even though she was involved with another man (a life partner I guess you'd call it). Big scandle since she was older than he was, and he was supposed to marry someone else. Anyway, her life partner challenged the Rom Buro to fight for her and he agreed, even though by their tradition he could have just taken her as his wife, but she intervened and said that if they fought NEITHER would get her, and left her partner for the Rom Buro. Her partner ended up marrying the woman the Rom Buro was supposed to marry.

[Sierra]

40% Scottish, clan Campbell of Argyle, descended from younger brother of the ninth duke of Argyle back, one of the founders of what became the Hudson Bay Company. Also some Coleman and Terry blood in there.
25% Swedish, came from the town of Uppsala
25% Welsh - private
10% Remainder:
French - Pamperin
Holland Dutch - William and Mary of Orange, descended from the younger brother of William
Norwegian - private
German - private

[Lazlo]

My fathers side is Irish, so I'm an Irish/cherokee mutt. weird I'm passive 90 percent of the time , but piss me off and my short temper is ugly, thanks to spiritual enrichment I keep my anger put down with ease. People in my circles are always saying no matter what happes I'm never too high or too low , always even keel. they can't deal with it , they want me angry when they are, and sad when they are , I'm mostly happy all the time.

I too am Irish/Cherokee. I would swear that this was written about me. I used to have a very short fuse and (still do I guess, but it takes a blowtorch to get it lit these days, it used to be that a warm breeze would do it) It drives my wife nuts that I don't get worked up over much of anything, positive or negative, she thinks that it is unnatural. I had already outgrown my temper before we met.

[RMorgan]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.


Nice Cousin........ and in the back! lovely ! :(

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I would surely love to know the origins of my last name, Morgan. I´m sure there´s a lot of Morgans in the UK, but that´s all I know...


Double check RMorgan, but I think Morgan is Welsh................. boyoh!


Thanks Star1111! I guess you´re right!

http://www.data-wales.co.uk/morgname.htm

Cheers,

Raf.

[Nyce555]

Well being a Black American, I think I am mixed with a little bit of everything. On my mom's side we are descended from African slaves, Native American (Nanticoke, Lenape and Powhatan), English and Irish. On my dad's side, we are also descended from African slaves, French Canadian, and English. Might be more mixed in there, but we haven't done a lot of research on that side. We know that my great grandmother was French Canadian and she married my great grandfather who was Black and she was then banished from returning to her family in Canada. My dad's mother was also mixed, but I am not sure whith what as she died when my father was only 13.

My mother's father's family is very unique and there were even many books written about them. They were classified as the "Delaware Moors", being a triracial ethnic group that consisted of African, Native American and European decent. They did not classify themselves as being of one race and did not wish to integrate into the Black or White American society. But when my Great granfather married my Great Grandmother, who is also of a mixed African, Native American and European decent, she raised her children as Black as she was raised by her grandparents and mother who were freed slaves. Most of my family on that side, including my grandfather, have blue eyes, fair skin, Native American and European features. It is fascinating to me now to hear the stories from my Great grandmother, still alive at 101 years old, tell stories about being raised on a plantation in Virginia and then visiting her father on the Indian Reservation in Delaware. And listening to my Grandfather talk about how he was not allowed to sit next to my Grandmother in the movie theaters because she was a lot darker than he was and he was oftern mistaken for being white. I love hearing the stories, although sometimes sad because of the discrimination, but it is part of American history and my family heritage that I want to share with my children (if I have some, if not nieces and nephews ;) ).

[GaelVictor]

My Y-chromosome which my father passed on to me, and is the same in our male lineage, with just minor changes over thousands of years, is Gaul/Celtic.

The X-chromosome which my mother gave me is either Gaul/Celtic or German, because my grandfather was of Germanic descent and my grandmother was Celtic and they both gave an X-chromosome to my mother, i don't know which one of the two she passed on to me..

I don't know for sure because i only tested my Y-chromosome (with the National Geographic's Genographic project.) link;
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

The result was; r1b1b2 which is typically found in western Europe and indicates the Gaul/Celtic race. Percentages of r1b1b2 in the male population in Wales, England, Belgium, Brittany, France, Scotland, Catalonia are over 60% link;
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

My grand, grand, grand, ..., grandfather lived in southern france 17,000 years ago,
when there was a social and cultural golden age, he and his family made the Lascaux cave paintings, and their traces can be followed even further back to the Kaukasus before that and up to 60,000 years ago.

I will keep up their struggle for self-development and freedom as good as i can, infact they gave me the tools for it through their DNA

[MorningSong]

It is interesting to me, Hatemachines, that you had your Y chromosome tested... most genetic studies begin with studying the mtDNA, that found in the mitochondria, which is passed on to offspring exclusively through the mother, through her mother and so on from eternity back.... hmmmm. Sperm DNA as well as Ovocyte DNA are recombant from the parent's nucleoid DNA and often pulls up long lost traits in a family's geneology line. Unless, of course, you need to know your paternity..... But anyway....

I am a 9th generation US American on my mom's side.... German immigrants in the 1700s who settled in SC. Third generation received a land grant in NC, Appalachian foothills. My great great grandfather fought in the American Revolution for the South, had married a Cherokee Eastern Tribe medicine woman who lost all of her tribal rights by marrying a white man and was given a common last name in the Polk County area.

There is a lot of English, Welch and Irish lines among the various generations as well.

My dad's side of the family has been a nightmare to try to trace...supposedly French but all I know is that the spelling of the last name has changed so often even from father to son that it is a very tangled web.... Granddad was in the Navy at Norfork, VA and got killed in a train/auto wreck when my dad was only 13.....how conveniant....

I moved to Europe and married an Italian so now my DNA has come back to the Old World pool...with a few new world twists as well.

[noprophet]

I sadly have no idea what my ancestry is. On my Mom's side it's german/french/jewish/??? and on my Dad's side french/indian/???.

Closest I can get to figuring anything out is that the Jewish side is under the last name Polin which was a yiddish word for promised land and the last name taken by many of the Jews who moved to Poland in the 1400's mistaking the word Poland for the yiddish word.

[noprophet]

Dang am i the only Templar Knight here so far...:P

In hoc signo vinces - In this sign thou shall conquer
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/090915-lost-symbol-dan-brown-freemasons-book_big.jpg
Join my secret.bla bla bla..and thou shal.....

"JOKING"

P.s did i miss a fellow Knight..??

What's that crest from? masonic?

That's a great representation of the tree of life. the sun is even the "son" in the sphere of tiphareth.

[MorgaineFallen]

Great thread.

My grandmother was "the village beauty",in the 40`s she met a german soldier ( the reaction to this from the village was quite grim!) and fell in love. They married and my father was born.
Grandma was thought to have "gypsy"blood,because she was so dark. I think my grandfather may have been jewish (because of his name).
My mothers mother was finish and her husband russian/finish.
There ought to be some asian blood also,since I was born with a Mongolian spot. Even though my eyes are not dark,sometimes in pics I look quite asian.

My father was adopted ( at 1 yrs) by the woman I always called grandma,she had some brittish nobility ( Marlborough) in her bloodline. But since dad was adopted,its not our real blood. :)

[DouglasDanger]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.
If Robert Ford was his cousin then yes...but i do not think he was...

Robert Ford is my great great Uncle ( i may have missed a great) (Grandmother on my fathers side's maiden name was Ford...)

My fathers family name is to popular to trace...just to many of them to track a family tree...only thing i found out was that they loved to participate in wars. from europe to the war of independance to the civil war and on...
.
My mothers grandfather, grandma's father, my great grandfather, was Nova Scotia's own....Captain Norman Smith....

My Mothers maiden name Huskilson, ( Huskuldsson in Icelantic given to my great great great great grandfather), possible ties to Eric the reds Gang of vikings, unsure on that bit of family history..

There are pictures of Robert Ford on the Web if you search, and pictures Of Captain Norm.

[DouglasDanger]

Dang am i the only Templar Knight here so far...:P

In hoc signo vinces - In this sign thou shall conquer
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/090915-lost-symbol-dan-brown-freemasons-book_big.jpg
Join my secret.bla bla bla..and thou shal.....

"JOKING"

P.s did i miss a fellow Knight..??

No but some folks will not release that info unless asked in person.... :)
(edit, no i am not one....)

[MargueriteBee]

Cherokee, Chocktaw, Chickasaw, Welsh and French.

[Lord Sidious]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.
If Robert Ford was his cousin then yes...but i do not think he was...

Robert Ford is my great great Uncle ( i may have missed a great) (Grandmother on my fathers side's maiden name was Ford...)

My fathers family name is to popular to trace...just to many of them to track a family tree...only thing i found out was that they loved to participate in wars. from europe to the war of independance to the civil war and on...
.
My mothers grandfather, grandma's father, my great grandfather, was Nova Scotia's own....Captain Norman Smith....

My Mothers maiden name Huskilson, ( Huskuldsson in Icelantic given to my great great great great grandfather), possible ties to Eric the reds Gang of vikings, unsure on that bit of family history..

There are pictures of Robert Ford on the Web if you search, and pictures Of Captain Norm.

You are right, I checked up and he wasn't a cousin, but he was a new member into the gang.

[Nervana]

I am American, half Mexican/Spanish and half English/Swiss/German. My Dad was born in Texas and my Mom was born in Alabama. They met each other while working in a Zenith TV plant in Illinois. My Dad's family were from Monterrey Mexico and Texas. My Great-Great Grandfather on my Mother's side was Johann Eduard Haggenmacher, born in 1837 in Winterthur Switzerland.

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, got an update for you about our boys, the Kelly gang.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umm6UVUPxM

The text under the video on youtube is this



SOME OF THE NED KELLY, DAN KELLY HISTORY TRACKED !

Despite what you may have seen in a recent movie Dan and Steve didnt shoot or kill themselves. Dan Kelly kicked down the front door and offered to shoot it out with 4 policemen inside, at the Aaron Sherrit incident, just before the Glenrowan stoush. He was no coward!
A bushman tracker knows the way to to follow horses here..every hoof is different
Hell find the track one hoof placed wrong........all have different tracks
And remember it a year!
Hed know the colour of the horse
By the hair left on the ground
They roll every day of course
Hair left in the rolling mound
An earmark seen on a beast
Is also logged the same
Remembered on a cow or sheep
If the owner comes to claim

The Kellys have their earmark mate............Dan and Ned have no earlobes, a family trait!
No earlobes all youll see...............a definite breed characteristic.....distinct as a blue heeler!
Fred- Layton's Grandson fits the part..Fred Layton alias Steve Hart, but secretly..... Dan Kelly
Frank Harpers family tree....... Amiable characters and 1960s drovers of south west Queensland

Dan Kelly and Steve Hart escaped.....Steve died overseas! Dan went under double cover used Steves alias to India by boat




, Fred Layton. Many Dan Kelly's appeared...
With Walers left the country...........................Walers were remount horses for the Indian Army
And the Police they didnt know it?..............They knew Steve Hart alias Fred Layton died overseas!
At Glenrowan Ned fought on alone..................Game as Ned Kelly the people would say..
Joe Byrne had died in vain................................mortally wounded in the groin at Glenrowan...
A copper said they saddled up............Constable Bracken , the Kelly's were saddling up Dan and Steve..
2 drunkards took the blame................................After drinking all day in the wayside pubs many men passed out and slept the effects off. Smoke killed these two!. 2 unmarked bodies in the Glenrowan fire?
Frank Harpers family has this trait
DNA could prove me right
Without some help well have to wait
Till me hairs gone grey and white?

A Kelly family tree?
[email protected]

Like I told you avalonuggets, Steve and Dan escaped Glenrowan.
Ned, not knowing the deal tried to get to the pub to help his boys.
This means he took on 50 police, by himself!
Never mess with an angry Irishmen, they don't care about odds and that rubbish.

[exchange student]

I am a French Canadian, on my mom side they came from the region of Poitou-Charente,France, on my dad's side they came from the region of Normandy in France.

[Sierra]

I would like to know more about Rom Buro.......... Clan 's Shuvani if possible
Thank you

<snip>
She was always showing me "tricks"; mostly herbal and healing type things as well as explaining how to cook food with "intent" (if you wanted results).
<snip>

sshenry, I'd LOVE to know what she said about 'how to cook food with "intent" (if you wanted results).' Thanking you in advance (pretty please!).

Sierra :wave:

[Solstice]

Shirley May France (born 1932) was the youngest woman to attempt to swim the English Channel, although her three attempts in 1949 and 1950 were unsuccessful.[1][2][3] She was the first woman to swim across Lake George in the U.S. states of New York and Vermont. She lives in Somerset, Massachusetts and has five children.



My second cousin. She died this Spring. What a great story!

[Davidallany]

Never mess with an angry Irishmen, they don't care about odds and that rubbish.
Indeed my Lord, I would like to add if I may, to also never mess with an Irish woman for similar reasons.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

As our consciousness rises, we will begin to remember our historic past as our own ancestors. It's really pretty trippy and fun when you are open to insights like this and if you are willing to explore areas that have been pretty closed off to us by old religious traditions that do not profess to reincarnation.

Pictures help jog memories more than anything else I think except for family myths, legends and life stories, all of these may ring a bell within you. Once the bell is rung, you can ask your angels and guides about it ~ they link us to our own unconsciousness that knows and remembers all things related to our lives; past, present, and future. These areas are open to you now as never before and it will increase with each passing day.

I remember while caring for my Dad for the first year after my Mom died in 2004, we kept thinking of special projects to keep his mind off his loss, and one of them was to do research and print out a whole gallery of pictures of many generations of family members. He had me hang them all over the hallway walls and it was a lot of fun to do this.

The first time, I saw my Great-Grandmother, I felt an uncanny affinity with her. I could tell you all about her feelings and things impossible for me to know or sense without having been there.

Things like this are opening to us now with rising consciousness. Maybe we weren't that particular relative but we were there and witnessed and can remember details in some other capacity. It has been said that we've lived about 300 lives during the last eons of Earth experience. Imagine how much there is to absorb and reconcile with all these experiences. It's one thing we are doing now, going through and taking all talents and gifts learned and getting ourselves and experiences into one cohesive whole unit integrating away like crazy with a certain unity of purpose. We are also doing this with our different related aspects like body, mind, spirit and ethereal realms of ourselves.

Pretty exciting time we live in right now. We are sorting and transforming negatives into positive aspects, as well, by seeing things from much more than black/white adding all the colors of the rainbow which is why we agreed to go through the trials here in the first place.

We are almost ready to graduate and become so much more than we started out being in 3D and then, taking this into another higher dimension. Great joy awaits... Ancestors.com is a great resource by the way.

[sshenry]

I would like to know more about Rom Buro.......... Clan 's Shuvani if possible
Thank you

<snip>
She was always showing me "tricks"; mostly herbal and healing type things as well as explaining how to cook food with "intent" (if you wanted results).
<snip>

sshenry, I'd LOVE to know what she said about 'how to cook food with "intent" (if you wanted results).' Thanking you in advance (pretty please!).

Sierra :wave:

Hi Sierra - sorry I haven't gotten back to this until today!!

Maybe I should start a thread about it - as there is a lot of good info that she taught me over the years that others might find helpful as well :)

[Davidallany]

The first time, I saw my Great-Grandmother, I felt an uncanny affinity with her. I could tell you all about her feelings and things impossible for me to know or sense without having been there.
Darla, what you have told me is becoming more tangible everyday. It would be a bit funny if I turn out to be my own ancestor. Since core energies hop from one body to another, it also mean that the core energy I live in has been to many places across millions-trillions of years since the beginning, it would be nice to recall some events from another time and another space.

[DouglasDanger]

Jesse was shot in the back by his cousin, if I recall correctly.
If Robert Ford was his cousin then yes...but i do not think he was...

Robert Ford is my great great Uncle ( i may have missed a great) (Grandmother on my fathers side's maiden name was Ford...)

My fathers family name is to popular to trace...just to many of them to track a family tree...only thing i found out was that they loved to participate in wars. from europe to the war of independance to the civil war and on...
.
My mothers grandfather, grandma's father, my great grandfather, was Nova Scotia's own....Captain Norman Smith....

My Mothers maiden name Huskilson, ( Hoskuldsson in Icelantic given to my great great great great grandfather), possible ties to Eric the reds Gang of vikings, unsure on that bit of family history..

There are pictures of Robert Ford on the Web if you search, and pictures Of Captain Norm.

"Updated Found more information about The Huskilson Side.."

Great great grandfather ( 1000 + years ago great) Hoskuld Dala-Kollsson ( Dala-koll) Bought a concubine from a slave trader and took her back to Iceland, Her name was Melkorka,(Kidnapped Daughter of King Myrkjartan) they had a son together Olaf Hoskuldsson, Also known as the Peacock, if you'd like to know more google any of the three names and you'll get pages and pages.... :)

[Symbolseeker]

My ancestry is traced on my father's side to Scotland, to the Tonsured Servants of St. John, and through MacBeth. My maternal ancestry is much more interesting, through Charlemagne, several king's of Scotland, Templar crusaders, and Lords of Wales and England. Like you I am an American, but it is fun to look at my family's past, how we came to be here - the Bradford's on the Mayflower are in my past - and how old my line is. It seems it the really ancient past there are Pictish people in my ancestry. I am still American, and happy to be one. I often wonder if there is a castle in my future.....

[pugwash84]

My family are quite boring because they are all from England. My Dad was called Peter Knight and My Mum was Christine Wood and I got my fathers name Knight. :-( mine is boring sorry!

[Ariel]

I am German and Cherokee. I have some immediate family from Germany as well. My European ancestors came to the U.S. during the late 17th century and were Amish. I am in the process of finding out more information because my background is Native American and I been so eager to find out more of my family's heritages. My husband is Laos but grew up in Thailand in a refugee camp till he came to the U.S. when he was 9. :)

[161803398]

All Northern European. I have no sense of relationship at all with anything farther south than England. I believe my ancestors all lived in caves and ate raw meat.

But someone once told me I have the eyes of a middle eastern person even though they are blue.

I suspect the following: my mother's female ancestor was kidnapped from the North of Ireland by a Viking and taken to Iceland.

One of my father's anglo-saxon ancestors backed Queen Mary and had to go to Ireland to save his life. The other ancestor also landed up in Ireland and never told anyone how or why he went.

[ROMANWKT]

HI anybody know what this stands for???http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customprofilepics/profilepic3150_17.gif

regards
roman

[Alan]

My ancestry is traced on my father's side to Scotland, to the Tonsured Servants of St. John, and through MacBeth. My maternal ancestry is much more interesting, through Charlemagne, several king's of Scotland, Templar crusaders, and Lords of Wales and England. Like you I am an American, but it is fun to look at my family's past, how we came to be here - the Bradford's on the Mayflower are in my past - and how old my line is. It seems it the really ancient past there are Pictish people in my ancestry. I am still American, and happy to be one. I often wonder if there is a castle in my future.....

Hey Symbolseeker, looks like we are cousins -- I can trace my ancestry to 14 of the Mayflower passengers, including William Bradford.

I'm also descended from 3 people who were accused of being witches in the 1692 Salem witch hysteria, only one of which was executed (Rebecca Nurse).

[NeverMind]

I would surely love to know the origins of my last name, Morgan. I´m sure there´s a lot of Morgans in the UK, but that´s all I know...

Well, Mr. Morgan, there was a certain Henry Morgan, a very famous pirate, roaming the Caribbean in the 1600s, if you get my drift.... :)
It's not that close to Brazil, but it's not all that far either, especially not for someone who came all the way from Europe. :-)


Oh and by the way, I believe his fabled treasure in the island of Providencia still hasn't been found!

:)

[NeverMind]

HI anybody know what this stands for???http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customprofilepics/profilepic3150_17.gif

regards
roman



Well, that's the English (Tudor) rose -- quite prominent, in two places -- and those "horns" may be cornucopia.
but that's all I know.

It should be easy enough to find out, however, with the help of a good heraldry book.