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jackovesk
11th September 2011, 14:23
'That man's terrible': Secret Jackie Kennedy tapes reveal her disgust over Martin Luther King's 'sex party'

Former first lady believed King made derogatory remarks at JFK's funeral


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By Chris Parsons

10th September 2011

Jackie Kennedy hated Martin Luther King so much she could barely look at photographs of him.

In interviews taped in 1964 but only just released, she said the black civil rights leader was a ‘terrible man’ and a ‘phoney’.

She claimed King bragged of being drunk at her husband John F Kennedy’s funeral and had been caught trying to set up an orgy.

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Claims: Jacqueline Kennedy was said to have seen Martin Luther King as a 'terrible' man

The interviews also revealed that JFK was so worried about vice-president Lyndon Johnson succeeding him that he schemed with his brother Robert to stop it happening.

Seven conversations between Mrs Kennedy and Arthur Schlesinger, a historian and Kennedy aide, were taped in the months after the president’s assassination on November 22, 1963.
Their release is timed to mark the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy-era administration, where the White House became known as ‘Camelot’.

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Doubts: The newly-revealed memoirs of Jackie Kennedy (left), tell how JFK scorned the idea of Lyndon Johnson (right) being president

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Worried: JFK, pictured here with Lyndon Johnson in 1960, was said to have had concerns about what would happen if his former rival and Vice-President took office.

Mrs Kennedy said her view of King was formed after being told of secret FBI wiretaps which showed him trying to organise a sex party before he attended the March on Washington in August 1963, at which he delivered his ‘I Have a Dream’ speech.

She said her brother-in-law Robert told her that King made disparaging remarks about JFK at the funeral and about Cardinal Richard Cushing, who delivered the eulogy.

‘I just can’t see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man’s terrible,’ she said.

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Skeptical: JFK was said to have thought that U.S. participation in Vietnam was 'hopeless', according to newly-released interviews with Jacqueline Kennedy

‘He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it [the funeral] – and things about they almost dropped the coffin. I mean Martin Luther King is really a tricky person.’

She said Robert told her of the FBI wiretaps: ‘He said this with no bitterness or anything, how he was calling up all these girls and arranging for a party of men and women, I mean, sort of an orgy.’


Over the seven sessions, Mrs Kennedy recalled conversations on topics ranging from her husband’s reading habits to the botched Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1961.
But the sharpest criticism was for Johnson, who John F Kennedy chose as his running mate in 1960. Mrs Kennedy said her husband would say to her: ‘Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?

‘And Bobby told me that he’d had some discussions with him ... do something to name someone else in 1968.’

Johnson was sworn in as president after JFK’s assassination and won a full term for himself in 1964. He declined to seek re-election in 1968.

Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of John and Jackie, said her mother’s comments about King were evidence of the ‘poisonous’ activities of then FBI director J Edgar Hoover.

She said the comments didn’t reflect her mother’s true feelings about King, pointing out that she was proud to attend his funeral following his assassination in April 1968.

She added: ‘The description of Lyndon Johnson here is more of his capabilities as a president, more negative than she certainly felt about him as a person.’

In June, an extract of one of the interviews had Mrs Kennedy saying her husband felt his legacy would be secured if he was assassinated after his Cuban missile crisis success of 1962.
‘If anyone’s going to kill me, it should happen now,’ he supposedly said.

Professor Robert Dallek, a Kennedy era historian, has said JFK’s remark may have been inspired by the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

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In the tapes, Jackie allegedly blames President Lyndon Johnson for the death of JFK , who took over the post from her husband after his assassination

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2035461/Jackie-Kennedy-look-image-Martin-Luther-King-sex-party-claims.html

PS - Don't Shoot the Messenger..!

More on the Tapes in this Thread...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27220-SECRET-Tapes-reveal-Jackie-O-LBJ-at-heart-of-JFK-killing..-&highlight=Jackie

Lord Sidious
11th September 2011, 15:17
I have read before of stories that came from FBI wiretaps of rooms that king stayed in and they really don't do much for his reputation.
I won't say anymore, if you are interested, you can google it.

TWINCANS
11th September 2011, 15:18
Oh dear, another hero bites the dust.

Arrowwind
11th September 2011, 15:30
So becasue the man had sex issues means that he bites the dust? He was intrumental in forging the freedom of millions in this nation.

Perhaps we should be looking at our own predjudices regarding sex and the "Christian" doctrines and belief systems, that even some of the best of us have a hard time living up to.

Seems JFK had similar issues.... being the Catholic that he was.

Lord Sidious
11th September 2011, 15:39
So becasue the man had sex issues means that he bites the dust? He was intrumental in forging the freedom of millions in this nation.

Perhaps we should be looking at our own predjudices regarding sex and the "Christian" doctrines and belief systems, that even some of the best of us have a hard time living up to.

Seems JFK had similar issues.... being the Catholic that he was.

You might wanna google the issue then see what the fuss is.

Cjay
11th September 2011, 15:39
Jackie's husband was no angel.


Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of John and Jackie, said her mother’s comments about King were evidence of the ‘poisonous’ activities of then FBI director J Edgar Hoover.

Dot.


I have read before of stories that came from FBI wiretaps of rooms that king stayed in and they really don't do much for his reputation.
I won't say anymore, if you are interested, you can google it.

Dot.

Join the dots.

pilotsimone
12th September 2011, 18:48
So becasue the man had sex issues means that he bites the dust? He was intrumental in forging the freedom of millions in this nation.

Perhaps we should be looking at our own predjudices regarding sex and the "Christian" doctrines and belief systems, that even some of the best of us have a hard time living up to.

Seems JFK had similar issues.... being the Catholic that he was.

You might wanna google the issue then see what the fuss is.

I googled it and didn't find much. Unless it is his extramarital affairs you are referring to here?

Lord Sidious
13th September 2011, 06:19
So becasue the man had sex issues means that he bites the dust? He was intrumental in forging the freedom of millions in this nation.

Perhaps we should be looking at our own predjudices regarding sex and the "Christian" doctrines and belief systems, that even some of the best of us have a hard time living up to.

Seems JFK had similar issues.... being the Catholic that he was.

You might wanna google the issue then see what the fuss is.

I googled it and didn't find much. Unless it is his extramarital affairs you are referring to here?

Nope, not that.
Try googling marting luther king + prostitutes.

Jonfen
13th September 2011, 07:28
So becasue the man had sex issues means that he bites the dust? He was intrumental in forging the freedom of millions in this nation.

Perhaps we should be looking at our own predjudices regarding sex and the "Christian" doctrines and belief systems, that even some of the best of us have a hard time living up to.

Seems JFK had similar issues.... being the Catholic that he was.

I agree, orgies for all!

ktlight
13th September 2011, 07:53
So, if MLK had problems, I feel he did the right thing by paying for resolution rather than causing unexperienced persons suffering. Not being male, I do not get it, but I acknowledge the existence of such problems.

And I would like to see anyone here heading a march and a cause against PTB and more. I think he did amazing work.

loveandgratitude
13th September 2011, 08:41
Who was Jackie Kennedy working for?

pilotsimone
13th September 2011, 08:58
Try googling marting luther king + prostitutes.

I found clearly debunkable claims that he abused white prostitutes.

All sites making the claim point to the same evidence...a book written by an MLK friend named Abernathy. It took no time to find the real text in Abernathy's book. He never wrote any such thing. Someone made it up.

Read the actual text from Abernathy's book here. (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp)

I think the truth is probably closer to...MLK struggled with his love of the earthly flesh. Like so many of our cosmic brothers do...

In my opinion it's good to see he had a downright HUMAN side. The rest always seemed so godly to me.

Star1111
13th September 2011, 09:25
Martin Luther King like many other "great leaders" is only human and thus will have the issue of the EGO to contend with - some win some dont!
Good case therefore not to worship concepts or idols ?

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Who was Jackie Kennedy working for?

Jackie Kennedy !

Davidallany
13th September 2011, 09:45
Most likely, Mr. King had too many female admirers. His sexual life was his business. Besides drunk people are not bound by politeness nor are they taken seriously. Now it would be interesting to hear about Mr. JFK's personal sex life, how many mistresses did he have? and his opinion about other ethnic groups.
I still like both dead men, because they brought freshness to the stale scene.

sumkat
13th September 2011, 10:37
read william pepper's an act of state on the martin luther king assassination