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Arrowwind
11th September 2011, 16:07
This is one of the largest sightings I've seen. It looks real to me based on what I have personally seen in the past.
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Sidney
11th September 2011, 16:38
That to me looks like someone (like a wedding or something) let loose a couple hundred white balloons. Im not a skeptic, but that was my first thought when I saw it.

Arrowwind
11th September 2011, 16:44
Absolutley not balloons. I have sent it to my pro for analysis. He has seen hundreds of ships over the years. Ballons do not fly in triangular formations, yet is common behavior to groups of ships. Nor do ballons contradict movement in air current. They all fly in the same direction. One does not just turn around and start going the other way. Watch with a more discerning eye. Off hand impressions are meaningless.

Midnight Rambler
11th September 2011, 16:56
I have seen this video a couple of days ago and it blew my mind. I dropped the link in chat and the amazement over the footage were the same as mine.

If it is a hoax or a viral for some TV show or something like that it is a good computer animation job.

Now this is in California, but going down South a bit in Latin- and South-America, and in particular Chile and Mexico, the people there wont be all that amazed. It's because the frequency of these phenomena are very common there.

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sakire
11th September 2011, 17:31
I'm a firm believer in trying to watch these type of videos with a balanced mind, on one side hope that it is more proof of their existence and hopefully part of this never ending wait for disclosure, and on the other side skepticism. I have to agree with starchild on this, in that to me it looks very much like balloons, especially the so called clusters which are reacting exactly like when you tie 2 or three balloons together and they will rotate around each other. In fact when zoomed in their almost seems to be a glare below as if light is reflecting off of a string or ribbon of some sort.

As for them moving in different patterns they could be in different wind streams at varying altitudes depending on when they were released. From other footage of UFO's flying in groups that I have seen, they seem to have some formation in their trajectories, but this just seems very clustered and cluttered.

Just my 2 cents anyway, if proof comes up to confirm this is genuine then great, but to be honest its tipping my personal scale more towards fake. Nevertheless thanks for posting, and if you get any specific feedback from your pro please post as an update.

RMorgan
11th September 2011, 17:48
I'm a firm believer in trying to watch these type of videos with a balanced mind, on one side hope that it is more proof of their existence and hopefully part of this never ending wait for disclosure, and on the other side skepticism. I have to agree with starchild on this, in that to me it looks very much like balloons, especially the so called clusters which are reacting exactly like when you tie 2 or three balloons together and they will rotate around each other. In fact when zoomed in their almost seems to be a glare below as if light reflecting of a string or ribbon of some sort.

As for them moving in different patterns they could be in different wind streams at varying altitudes depending on when they were released. From other footage of UFO's flying in groups that I have seen, they seem to have some formation in their trajectories, but this just seems very clustered and cluttered.

Just my 2 cents anyway, if proof comes up to confirm this is genuine then great, but to be honest its tipping my personal scale more towards fake. Nevertheless thanks for posting, and if you get any specific feedback from your pro please post as an update.

Agreed 100%. This video was here in PA before, on another thread. For me, itīs just balloons. You can even see some strings attached to some of them. Being in different altitudes, some balloons could fly east, others could fly west, south or north, depending on by which wind current they are carried. Currents up there can vary a lot within a small altitude range, it means that we could have a current going north, another current going south just a couple of meters up and so on.

By the way, you just need three dots to make a "triangular formation".

DeDukshyn
11th September 2011, 18:13
I'm a firm believer in trying to watch these type of videos with a balanced mind, on one side hope that it is more proof of their existence and hopefully part of this never ending wait for disclosure, and on the other side skepticism. I have to agree with starchild on this, in that to me it looks very much like balloons, especially the so called clusters which are reacting exactly like when you tie 2 or three balloons together and they will rotate around each other. In fact when zoomed in their almost seems to be a glare below as if light reflecting of a string or ribbon of some sort.

As for them moving in different patterns they could be in different wind streams at varying altitudes depending on when they were released. From other footage of UFO's flying in groups that I have seen, they seem to have some formation in their trajectories, but this just seems very clustered and cluttered.

Just my 2 cents anyway, if proof comes up to confirm this is genuine then great, but to be honest its tipping my personal scale more towards fake. Nevertheless thanks for posting, and if you get any specific feedback from your pro please post as an update.

Agreed 100%. This video was here in PA before, on another thread. For me, itīs just balloons. You can even see some strings attached to some of them. Being in different altitudes, some balloons could fly east, others could fly west, south or north, depending on by which wind current they are carried. Currents up there can vary a lot within a small altitude range, it means that we could have a current going north, another current going south just a couple of meters up and so on.

By the way, you just need three dots to make a "triangular formation".

I concur, and I thought the "formations" were balloons stuck to each other by static - which balloons do. The clusters never broke or formed - the spread in altitude caused them to never get close enough to stick to another, and the small clusters had been clung from the moment of release. My 2 cents. ;)

EDIT: This seems similar to the night sightings like this that are lit balloon lamps that float up into the sky by the thousands -- some Chinese light festival or something -- they do it in Vancouver. Looks pretty freaking spectacular though.

Kage
12th September 2011, 09:53
Aloha,

I live right around the corner from where these balloons were let off for a wedding.. Sry..:( I really don't think the kid was trying to "hoax" a ufo vid.. I think he really thought there was a fleet of ships flying over Sacramento and he wanted to get a kool vid ..

Keep tryin', they're definitely up there...:cool:

Kg

Arrowwind
12th September 2011, 11:58
Word from my end is that they are ballons...

I didn't see those strings, but I do now.

Ships I have seen were in very rural New Mexico at night where they looked exactly like stars except for their unusual movement patterns. What appears like Triangulations are frequently seen that form then just sit there, then one ship or another will change position. Sorry no Ballons over the Jemez Mountains at 2 am.

This film is similar to what has come out of Southern Mexico. Guess I jumped the gun.
sorry to bother you all with this.

DNA
12th September 2011, 12:08
That to me looks like someone (like a wedding or something) let loose a couple hundred white balloons. Im not a skeptic, but that was my first thought when I saw it.

I agree with starchild111, it looks like balloons. He keeps zooming in on the three balloons attached to one another and saying "how would balloons do that", and you can see the string hanging down from them.
And as far as there being formations, there are no formations,,,,unless randomness is a formation.

DNA
12th September 2011, 12:12
Absolutley not balloons. I have sent it to my pro for analysis. He has seen hundreds of ships over the years. Ballons do not fly in triangular formations, yet is common behavior to groups of ships. Nor do ballons contradict movement in air current. They all fly in the same direction. One does not just turn around and start going the other way. Watch with a more discerning eye. Off hand impressions are meaningless.

Offhand impressions are meaningless huh?
Maybe we should be a little more humble eh?

joedjemal
12th September 2011, 12:24
I think I see strings on them. Maybe somebody well off had a celebration.

Arrowwind
12th September 2011, 18:13
[Offhand impressions are meaningless huh?
Maybe we should be a little more humble eh?

I already humbled myself in post #9 DNA. or would you like to dig it in a little more?

Perhaps you could read the thread before commenting like that.

Arrowwind
18th September 2011, 19:06
Ok, I finally got an opinion on this from a friend who has been in contact with ships for most of his lifetime.. it is not conslusive but gives and interesting perspective that had not occured to me.

The so called "balloon footage" is interesting. The clusters breaking off balloons from twos and threes are the only ones with tell tale strings, take note. This might be explained that only when there are a number of strings bunched do they become more visible, but there is something else that raises questions for me since I have witnessed these events where the objects are navigating in all directions with some sitting still among others going deliberate in different maneuvers. In the footage you had sent there are clearly a number of singular objects sitting still with other objects going by them in a definite pattern and clip. Balloons have no directional guidance capacity and being motiled by the winds tend to move together in one direction, don't you think - you know, with the wind..? Balloons may be released in the vicinity even by planes or helicopters when these events appear to obfuscate the question of the event's authenticity. Then they post counterpoint You Tubes rebutting this event as a bunch of balloons and that is that. Don't you wish Occam's Razor was not so double sided? How is it going up there, by the way? .. Love Helios

RMorgan
18th September 2011, 19:14
Well, as I said before:

"Being in different altitudes, some balloons could fly east, others could fly west, south or north, depending on by which wind current they are carried. Currents up there can vary a lot within a small altitude range, it means that we could have a current going north, another current going south just a couple of meters up and so on."

Vitalux
18th September 2011, 19:16
[QUOTE=Arrowwind;306269]This is one of the largest sightings I've seen. It looks real to me based on what I have personally seen in the past.

Thank you so much for sharing Arrowwind. :yo:
Balloons certainly are beautiful. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0g1f7JeNbGHuY3W0tUkFYblAS7Cqcc AkO7D5OF2RnBTMB7V4p7g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5akEgsZSfhg

They also were observed in The 5th Dimension

Czarek
18th September 2011, 19:25
if they are balloons, how big would they have to be? i.e. to be visible to a naked eye way up there?

Robert J. Niewiadomski
18th September 2011, 22:15
You can buy hundred 50" white baloons plus helium bottle from net for $300. Add some fishing line and tie them together like christmas tree lights. If you fill baloons with air and add some helium they will not fly very high. Personnally I would like they are not baloons :) But I see baloons in this video :(