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Dennis Leahy
13th September 2011, 15:27
If you believe in reincarnation, and if you believe that you had a hand in selecting a time for reincarnating and some of the circumstances to provide a "test" or learning experience (which is what Michael Newton, Dolores Canon, and others have gleaned), perhaps 9/11 is why you reincarnated now.

Over the course of the last few years, especially the previous year, I allowed myself to ponder about what the next big thing was, this "thing" or "event" that I have felt so strongly was going to happen. Maybe there is a big event about to happen (false-flag "terrorist" or "alien" attack, economic collapse big enough to change civilization and not just a depression, coronal mass ejection solar storms to negate electronics and electronics infrastructure for possibly years, nuclear war, major true alien disclosure, Vatican major disclosures, etc.), or maybe...

...maybe it already happened. Maybe 9/11 and its aftermath is the huge test and reason we have reincarnated now. Just look at how many have failed the test (so far.) Look at how many have shut off the discernment in their brains and allowed themselves to be "baffled by bullsh!t", look how many have compromised their religious beliefs and teachings of love and compassion and forgiveness and have cheered on the slaughter of over a million innocents, and injury, traumatization, and displacement of many millions more. Look how many that do have a clue that 9/11 was a false flag have nonetheless cowered and acquiesced without a peep.

I mean, just how big of a test do we need in a lifetime? This is a pretty damn big one.

If this is true, then is part of the test to see how we persevere? How we never give up? How we refuse to allow the perpetrators to just sail off into false history, enriched by the spoils of war, swimming in the blood of innocents, and enabled to repeat their performance at will?

Perhaps a part of the test is to come to terms with forgiveness. Can I ever learn to forgive people that wantonly and with premeditation murdered more than a million people? Is part of the test to learn how to balance forgiveness with the responsibility to disarm the perpetrators, bring them to justice, and halt the progression of death and destruction started on 9/11?

Dennis

divine_moments_of_truth
13th September 2011, 15:54
Great post, this could very well be true and so far our efforts haven't really been groundbreaking. Every intelligent friend I have has been given my spiel on 9/11 and some have had a small awakening from it (this happened when most of us were in elementary school so we never doubted the story). I think 9/11 is also a lead in for more Middle-East invasions but what are our choices? Protest? Sit-Ins? Full-blown rebellion?

norman
13th September 2011, 16:09
I think 9/11 was a division bell.

"either you're with us, or your with the terrorists".

Many of us thought at the time Bush said it that he was being too black and white and that many of us disagreed with him but didn't support the terrorists either.

As the years go by and the agenda progresses, I can see a polarisation happening where what he said then is coming true, but not in the way I saw it at the time. No I'm not a terrorist but I can see how the net is closing in around everyone who feels in their hearts that they are not on the 'side' if the cabal. The language is morphing and the focus is shifting steadily.

When the shepheard sends his dogs out the bring in the sheep, they don't run straight out at the nearest sheep. They run for miles out around the sheep and approach them from the far side. That's exactly what this 'war on terror' is all about.

And here's another thing. The sheep who first pass through the gates into the fold will very likely be the sheep that were nearest to it in the first place. The dogs are driving from the far side and it's the movement of the flock that drives them into the gate.

The dogs are nipping and sheep are falling, but we'll be ok because we are running at the front. Errr.. what's wrong with that picture.

ktlight
13th September 2011, 16:26
You can see what is happening insofar as bringing justice and changing things for the better on the link below.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30171-Toronto-Hearings-on-the-Events-of-9-11&highlight=toronto

crosby
13th September 2011, 16:46
i have to say that perhaps the million (and many more) that have died have done so, so that we may move forward with our endeavors. if we have been reincarnated at this time, perhaps they were as well. i think that it is a distinction between the dark and light forces. i myself believe that we all exist at this time for a purpose, if our purpose was to be the victim of the dark forces, it was made so that the light can shine through and make our light forces stronger. it tells me that the light force is much stronger than we know. if i had to make a choice about myself, i would be a victim if it pushed one soul to open their eyes to the brilliance of mankind.
warmest regards, corson

gooty64
13th September 2011, 16:54
I am in agreement with you Dennis. With the 911 Lie looming over our entire Earth civilization, everything seems cheapened and false about this period of time or age that we are in.
Nuclear energy demolished the WTC/symbols of our civilization on television and the vast majority can't even see it. It makes me sick!
Maybe 2 or 3 generations of the clueless majority have to die off before the majority awakens. Or maybe people will just get dumber and dumber. My immediate family I do care about but, I would also say that they are clueless, ignorant, greedy, exaggerated consumers etc.
I would say we as a civilization/society have FAILED the test and that is probably too late now regarding 911. Therefore we are progressing through the end times right now. Upheaval is underway and will likely escalate dramatically. Maybe that's when we will find out why we chose to incarnate during the 911 era-who knows?

truth4me
13th September 2011, 17:24
I rule nothing out at this point......

ulli
13th September 2011, 18:02
Dennis, such a good question. 9/11 was definitely a turning point.
In a way lucky for humanity because of how the perpetrators slipped up and got caught.
After all, 9/11 wasn't their first false flag event.
But we were given the great gift from heaven, the Internet,
and because of this we could get access to lots of information
about the fact that it was an inside job...something
that would have been impossible to access in earlier days.

The real reason we are here now is to build loving bonds all over the planet
and eliminate the prejudices and ignorance that have existed for eons.
Establish equality for the races and women.
Help fight poverty. Wake up the world.
Let the perpetrators go their own way, they will be led to their demise by their own actions.

Kimberley
13th September 2011, 20:22
If this is true, then is part of the test to see how we persevere? How we never give up? How we refuse to allow the perpetrators to just sail off into false history, enriched by the spoils of war, swimming in the blood of innocents, and enabled to repeat their performance at will?

Perhaps a part of the test is to come to terms with forgiveness. Can I ever learn to forgive people that wantonly and with premeditation murdered more than a million people? Is part of the test to learn how to balance forgiveness with the responsibility to disarm the perpetrators, bring them to justice, and halt the progression of death and destruction started on 9/11?

Dennis

WOW Dennis I am so with you on this line of feeling (thinking) !!! Since I was asked to do a 911 show for my Boston WZLX radio show I did some 911 research and found some really interesting/enlightening information... I think you will find them of interest too... (If you have not already seen or heard them see link to tread post below) :-)

This is a topic that I have not paid much attention to for years (I didn't think I needed too until NOW)...However since I was led back to it for obvious reasons I found some great people who are doing their part to bring out the truth, Especially the investigative work of Dr. Judy Wood (more about her investigation in a minute). Due to the new information brought to my current attention I have been sharing it where ever I can. I even sent an e-mail to my asleep family & friends (that's discernment not judgement), something I have avoided like the plague for years because of the ridicule I received ten years ago around this topic.

10 years ago I knew immediately that 2 planes could not have caused the total destruction to those buildings (and the various surrounding building too)...however for a while I only spoke to the information being given to us that it was done by Muslim terrorists. I spoke out saying ok even if that is the case fighting fire with fire does not work. Love your enemies I proclaimed!! Oh did I get flack for that!! So I chose to be silent. Then as the months progressed I started to realize/know that what had taken place was so very much darker than what we were being told. I did not dare speak that to anyone. So as the years have progressed and the conspiracy facts and theories have been bouncing around on the internet I was glad to see so many asking the good questions etc... But it was not until in the past month that I started to re-visit and share this information in public to both those that are awake and asleep.. (no judgment to any of us :-) ) And it was not until last week that I was finally able to give the time to learning about Dr. Judy Wood's 10 year investigation. WOW!!! The best of the truth that I have seen..It resonates so strongly with me on so many levels. She and I and many of you are not looking for revenge, we just want the truth to be told!

How did the WTC buildings turn into DUST? What free energy technology was used to do that? Who has hold of that technology? Most importantly how can we use that technology for the benefit of the world? I do not want revenge...I do not need justice.. . I am not in judgement of others so I have no one to forgive...I just want to know the truth!!! How about you!

I am so energized by the opportunity we have at this point of our evolution. I know that the majority of the people of the world are loving and caring and kind! I also know that there are dark and light forces at play on this planet and off this planet. I also know that the light forces are stronger than the dark forces.

Anyway writing like this is one of my least favorite things to do, however I am so compelled right now...thanks to Dennis hehehe...

Here is the plan that came to me while writing this...

We need to repeal the dismissal of this Dr. Judy Wood case in the Supreme Court.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html

We need to get this group http://l911t.com/ and this group http://ae911truth.org/ and whatever other 911 truth groups are big to work together and demand an end to the 9/11 cover-up, a new, full and unbiased investigation, and accountability, and disclosure of the technology used, from all parties involved.

We are not looking for retaliation we are demanding the truth! And as you all know the truth will set you free!! And free energy will set us free too....

Ok for starters please listen to these two interviews with Dr. Judy Wood....

Interview conducted a few days ago by Mel Fabregas with Dr. Judy Wood http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/2011/09sep/VS-110909-jwood.php
Interview conducted on Sunday by Henrik Palmgren with Dr. Judy Wood http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/09/RIR-110911.php

......and then get back to me ok???

Much love to us all always in all ways!! :luv:


link to what I posted on other 911 threads the last few days...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30268-Was-9-11-Really-an-Inside-Job&p=307252&viewfull=1#post307252

gooty64
13th September 2011, 20:33
Kimberly, Definitely check out this Russian scientist regarding 911.

Dimitri Khalezov - WTC Nuclear Demolition - Full playlist : Terror ...

Kimberley
13th September 2011, 21:42
Here is some video evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXDmNZCeKo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXDmNZCeKo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAa_B2kRuo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAa_B2kRuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL9ZAJINU1c&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL9ZAJINU1c&NR=1

DeDukshyn
13th September 2011, 22:22
Great post Dennis,

I believe that many of the beings now incarnated here are here for stabilization and are already doing this, although most aren't conscious of the big picture; their natural tendencies to seek higher vibrations quickly and aggressively for themselves and those around them are what that work really is.

I became excited on 9/11 ... my sentiments were: "Maybe now I'll be able to get down to business for what I am really here for" - It's like it started to trigger something else in me, that would be activated when needed. I still rather feel this way ... 9/11 did activate me somewhat in different ways than the status quo, and I believe there will be yet more triggers of this phenomenon ...

VERITAS
13th September 2011, 22:39
Thanks Kimberley. Thanks Dennis for opening this thread.

Also, I have made available the entire interview with Dr. Judy Wood here. You don't have to be a Veritas subscriber to listen.

Full playlist below:

3QxOMVpnXmg

All the best to everyone,
Mel

P.S. If Nukes had been used, why weren't the people running burned? Instead, they reported the dust felt cool.

DeDukshyn
13th September 2011, 23:56
Thanks Kimberley. Thanks Dennis for opening this thread.

Also, I have made available the entire interview with Dr. Judy Wood here. You don't have to be a Veritas subscriber to listen.

Full playlist below:

3QxOMVpnXmg

All the best to everyone,
Mel

P.S. If Nukes had been used, why weren't the people running burned? Instead, they reported the dust felt cool.

I didn't have time for all the videos .. but ... I firmly believe "nukes" are the term being used for technological weapons that most have no idea about so they choose the closest term they have available to them. Particle beam weapons is my guess as to what was used in 9/11; people and steel and concrete being vaporized without an impact? Not nuke at all ... Neutron bomb? Maybe ... but I don't think even those would explain what was happening - a neutron bomb is primarily for triggering a massive EMP to take out electronics / electrical. There are several videos available where you can clearly see steel and concrete columns being "vaporized" as the buildings start to fall. Nukes are indiscriminately destructive ... My 2 cents ;)

Anchor
14th September 2011, 01:04
For souls coming here in human bodies to provide service, the mode of incarnation and the plans intended in that incarnation are just as important as the mode chosen for leaving incarnation.

I fully agree with the idea that many of those souls that departed in the 9/11 event were "on mission"

I also think that it was a huge catalyst and seen as such for what it was by a great number of people who were "rudely awakened"

I have lost count of the number of people I have met physically and virtually whose awakening can be traced to 9/11.

This thread is further evidence of that events massive significance in all our lives.

In my case I was awakened before the event, but that just means I had more incredulous moments of "why cant people see what is going on?" to work through and learn from :)

John..

Charlie Pecos
14th September 2011, 02:55
Hi Dennis,

I too feel that I am here for a specific reason, a reason that has yet to reveal itself. I pass the time learning as much as I can about this world and the non-physical reality. 911 was huge, a clarion call to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. The truth about 911 is what breaks down our shared reality into a not-so-nice reality- IF we can let go of our programing. The cool part is that when we are able to see things for what they really are and the tricks that are played upon us, we then come to understand a higher level of the game. We are no longer as gullible of a people as we were before. Imagine what the world will be like in a generation or two as we teach our children the truth and they teach their children the truth. What was once considered to be a conspiracy will become FACT. People will look for these things and not believe the garbage told to them by their 'leaders'.

Is 911 the reason we are all here? I do not believe so. I am waiting for something although I do not know what it is. I do feel it is close, but perhaps nothing like anything we expect at this point. Maybe it will happen suddenly and be really big, unmistakable, or perhaps it will be gradual with no glaringly obvious catalyst. The reason we are here is to learn and grow, to experience that which is impossible to experience outside of the physical realm. 911 is the game changer, look at everything that has happened since. The political arena is so blatantly pro-corporation, they don't even bother to try to make a Democrat appear different than a Republican any more. And people still buy into the two party system! "Oh but Charlie, there is the Tea Party!" UH, NO! Same Sh*t, different name. The point I am trying to make is that after 911, the game has become so blindingly obvious, I sincerely believe it is a contest to see how long it takes people to wake up. But wait, there is more to come................


To Kimberely-

I read through Dr. Judy Woods site about a year and a half ago, and I found her evidence and conclusions to be quite intriguing.
The holes she found burned through the buildings were very eye opening. Would highly recommend that anyone who has not done so, please do check out Dr. Judy Wood.


Never forget folks, this reality is our creation, we made it. If we want to change it, we have the power to do so. We can make it as beautiful as we want, all that is required is for us to hold within our minds the world we know exists, and then work to bring it to the now. It is as simple as breathing. Really Really.

Kimberley
14th September 2011, 03:11
I have lost count of the number of people I have met physically and virtually whose awakening can be traced to 9/11.

This thread is further evidence of that events massive significance in all our lives.

In my case I was awakened before the event, but that just means I had more incredulous moments of "why cant people see what is going on?" to work through and learn from :)

John..

I also was awakening way before 9/11/01(and in many ways I am so envious of those that have only awakened in the past few years...way easier ride in my opinion... heheheh) ... however that day was a huge call to action for me to a much bigger degree...It was not a wake up call for me it was an alarm bell to be bigger and go deeper into my knowing and my service to others...although as I already said, as I spoke my truth then, my knowing, I was attacked and ridiculed and I chose to be silent... I now know it was not the right time to speak out as I am able to do now, today, in a big way. The literal dust needed to settle and sink in so to speak...so the time is NOW in oh so many ways... not just about 9/11 but about unity consciousness, etc... and I can not explain in writing, and am expecting that those reading these words and this post can intuit WHY WE ARE HERE NOW BEING WHO WE ARE NOW!!!! I congratulate each and every one of us!!! We did it!!! We are continuing to do IT!!! IT + BEing the change we want to see in the world!!! BEing living examples of Love & Peace!!! That is all we really signed up to be!!! So thank you for Being YOU!!!!

I think I need to rest now!!! However be sure to know that I will be back at this in my morning!!! I so love us ALL and thank you for BEing in my vision!!

Much love to us ALL!!! :luv:

Lord Sidious
14th September 2011, 04:44
If you believe in reincarnation, and if you believe that you had a hand in selecting a time for reincarnating and some of the circumstances to provide a "test" or learning experience (which is what Michael Newton, Dolores Canon, and others have gleaned), perhaps 9/11 is why you reincarnated now.

Over the course of the last few years, especially the previous year, I allowed myself to ponder about what the next big thing was, this "thing" or "event" that I have felt so strongly was going to happen. Maybe there is a big event about to happen (false-flag "terrorist" or "alien" attack, economic collapse big enough to change civilization and not just a depression, coronal mass ejection solar storms to negate electronics and electronics infrastructure for possibly years, nuclear war, major true alien disclosure, Vatican major disclosures, etc.), or maybe...

...maybe it already happened. Maybe 9/11 and its aftermath is the huge test and reason we have reincarnated now. Just look at how many have failed the test (so far.) Look at how many have shut off the discernment in their brains and allowed themselves to be "baffled by bullsh!t", look how many have compromised their religious beliefs and teachings of love and compassion and forgiveness and have cheered on the slaughter of over a million innocents, and injury, traumatization, and displacement of many millions more. Look how many that do have a clue that 9/11 was a false flag have nonetheless cowered and acquiesced without a peep.

I mean, just how big of a test do we need in a lifetime? This is a pretty damn big one.

If this is true, then is part of the test to see how we persevere? How we never give up? How we refuse to allow the perpetrators to just sail off into false history, enriched by the spoils of war, swimming in the blood of innocents, and enabled to repeat their performance at will?

Perhaps a part of the test is to come to terms with forgiveness. Can I ever learn to forgive people that wantonly and with premeditation murdered more than a million people? Is part of the test to learn how to balance forgiveness with the responsibility to disarm the perpetrators, bring them to justice, and halt the progression of death and destruction started on 9/11?

Dennis

Not me.
I recently had an experience with a very good woman and tarot cards.
This gave me a bit more of the picture and after considering the whole thing, I think I have nailed who and what I am.
I am one of the nuggets they call volunteers. And it appears I came here as a guide, as I didn't need to be here, I possessed the holy grail in a life 3 or 4 hundred years ago.
I even have the middle name Alfred.
Google it.
The last part you speak of, forgiveness, is linked to judgement and that one has been a heavy one for me.
I would agree on that 1000% Dennis.

By the way Dennis, good to see you back posting here again. :clap2:
I missed your presence here and was hoping you were ok.


Kimberly, Definitely check out this Russian scientist regarding 911.

Dimitri Khalezov - WTC Nuclear Demolition - Full playlist : Terror ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAV_BUQoGBw

Fred Steeves
14th September 2011, 10:03
I mean, just how big of a test do we need in a lifetime? This is a pretty damn big one.

If this is true, then is part of the test to see how we persevere? How we never give up? How we refuse to allow the perpetrators to just sail off into false history, enriched by the spoils of war, swimming in the blood of innocents, and enabled to repeat their performance at will?

Perhaps a part of the test is to come to terms with forgiveness. Can I ever learn to forgive people that wantonly and with premeditation murdered more than a million people? Is part of the test to learn how to balance forgiveness with the responsibility to disarm the perpetrators, bring them to justice, and halt the progression of death and destruction started on 9/11

Hi Dennis, great to see you back man!!! I was one of those deep sleepers. I loved George W., bought into the whole Muslim thing, the war on terror, Patriot Act, every last little bit. It's hard to imagine now, but that's the way it was. For some reason, I found myself almost 3 years ago sitting at the computer one morning before sunrise, and happened upon an Alex Jones documentary about 9/11. I figured I'd watch it just to see what lame kind of sh!t the truthers were whining about, so I dutifully watched. There was a certain part pointing out how impossibly the towers were coming down that I had never 'seen' before. It was like a sledgehammer blow square to the chest..I stared blankly at the scene playing it over and over again in utter disbelief thinking: " OH...MY...GOD...IT'S TRUE..." Things would never be the same.

So in that respect, I guess I could tie this incarnation in with 9/11, it being the big alarm clock, but IMHO it goes WAY deeper than that. I also agree with whoever it was here who said the people who died that day were 'on mission', much as many of us are prepared to do if need need be for mission completion.

I think you're right on there Dennis in a lot of respects. How can we possibly ever learn-or remember, the concept of unconditional love and forgiveness without being pushed to our most unimagined limits of doing so. How can we ever learn/remember what kind of stuff we are really made of without being pushed to those limits, and well beyond. Another thing, I contend that what happened on 9/11, and the subsequent terrible sequence of events leading right up to the present day, is in all actuality presenting us with a vitally important question that every living soul on this planet is being compelled to answer, whether they are conscious of it or not. The question that MUST be answered is: " IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? "

The answer to that question, either way, lays out your path chosen before incarnating, right before you.

Cheers,
Fred

One more thing that just occured to me. I think what we are beginning to see is universal law coming into effect, on many levels, for many reasons. Too many to go into now. But the point being, I think the more the cowardly parasites running this joint do to try and wrap up their plans, the more their plans are just going to 'somehow' wind up turning right back around against them. I don't envy their position.

firstlook
14th September 2011, 15:29
Interesting Post Dennis.

In a community such as this where many of us ponder about how we can serve others and the overall greater picture, I'm surprised no one has thought about 9/11 in these terms before, including me.

I guess I'll start from my own perspective. Feeling attached and part of this event in all honesty is kind of a struggle for me. I do know how I feel about it and how it effects us all. Somehow It doesn't feel as though I am.....on mission for this particular topic. That said......

I think those who are drawn or want to make this a focal point in looking into the abyss and coming out a stronger, more spiritual being, are very brave souls. It really is a huge trigger of the heart IMO when you can relay the type of secrecy and general disconnection people in our government and/or high positions of wealth and power they have given into. I think things like corruption and greed are a symptom. "Waking up" to 9/11 is a another dive into what it means to be human for society IMO. Events like these always cause this re-evaluation of how a person can loose sight of their harmony and connection.

It plays on many levels. Our missions may indeed link us to 9/11 in various ways. The victims families and taking on the most weight. Their forgiveness if they so choose is a key example. Those who continue to look for a new investigation. They are the ones who have the most connection spiritually speaking and I would believe how they handle that vibration is very important, so my thoughts always firstly go to them. Perhaps on anniversaries of 9/11 it is best to have a day of silence. Putting aside the politics and crusades in order to let vibrations rise. Thats just a side thought though.

Then of course there are people close to the event such as the witnesses. Police, Firefighters, Medical Personal, etc... The first responders. They have alot of potential energy IMO to work off of. There is the people who "investigated" the event and the many whistle blowers who are not afraid to speak out and say what is true. They are doing good work.

SO that brings up where people around the country and even the world come into play. General discussions like this is very important. Putting this event on the table allows each individual to figure out how they can participate. It opens the door up to so many topics. For example, I know of a woman who sold her car and quit using petrol products as much as she could because of the context in which that oil was attained and how many lives were pushed aside and destroyed. She only did this after understanding how much we were lied to about that day.

Documentary makers, lawyers, scientists, Teachers, ect... all play their parts.

Overall I think 9/11 is a huge vibrational event we are trying to counter act. It caused alot of fear for Americans. In the end we are fighting the fear it rippled out. People all over and especially these type of forums are balancing out this event everyday whether they realize it or not.

Forgiveness and Action together is a difficult discipline without a doubt. Keep up the good work. :clap2:

Peace :)

Billy
14th September 2011, 15:41
Great thread Dennis and thankyou Kimberley for your inpute of information.

I personaly do not think that I/WE came here at this time to experience 9/11, although 9/11 is one of the many siginificant drama's that i am sure we will encounter along this final stage of the journey of the soul. Earth changes, Economy, there will be more drama's and we are here for them all.

Yes how we react to those drama's is one of the main lessons within our growing up as spiritual beings, individually and collectively. Moving forward without revenge, no more an eye for an eye or Judgements for those who choose control, fear, power and the darkness as their goal.

Seeking the truth as much as one can, and assisting the masses when that truth becomes tranparent, can you imagine how the masses will react when they discover it was their own who murdered their loved ones. Wow, We have a mission in-deed.

Being there for our brothers and sisters when more hits the fan, and Bringing light into this density of darkness i believe is the most important mission of all.

Blessings to all

toothpick
14th September 2011, 19:37
Hi Dennis.
I swear, man, those exact words you so eliquently wrote were just sittng on the edge of my mind, just waitng to be jolted loose.
Very well put Sir, but, i,m not sure that I agree with every bit of it, because i certainly don,t know with any certainty what will actually be the conclusion.
But, i,ve certainly given it a lot of thought.
If we were reincarnated for 911 or for any other reason or time, I think personally that it would be to help raise the vibrational level of all manknd whether awake, enlightened or stone cold in a coma.
I believe that we are all here at this time to help our species to elevate our vibrational levels alittle bit closer to what we once were.
We are all here at this particular time to save the Ancient Water Planet we call home at this time, not for us , for the ones that come after us.
We would want them to be proud of for at least trying, to fix things, would,nt we?

Kimberley, thanks for the links, really cool, especially the one showing the last few standing beams just simply vaporise, incredible.

toothpick

EYES WIDE OPEN
14th September 2011, 19:51
Dennis, great thread! Dont think Judy wood has done much good and her science is lacking but her heart is in the right place. :)

Buck
15th September 2011, 04:27
I mean, just how big of a test do we need in a lifetime? This is a pretty damn big one.

If this is true, then is part of the test to see how we persevere? How we never give up? How we refuse to allow the perpetrators to just sail off into false history, enriched by the spoils of war, swimming in the blood of innocents, and enabled to repeat their performance at will?

Perhaps a part of the test is to come to terms with forgiveness. Can I ever learn to forgive people that wantonly and with premeditation murdered more than a million people? Is part of the test to learn how to balance forgiveness with the responsibility to disarm the perpetrators, bring them to justice, and halt the progression of death and destruction started on 9/11

Hi Dennis, great to see you back man!!! I was one of those deep sleepers. I loved George W., bought into the whole Muslim thing, the war on terror, Patriot Act, every last little bit. It's hard to imagine now, but that's the way it was. For some reason, I found myself almost 3 years ago sitting at the computer one morning before sunrise, and happened upon an Alex Jones documentary about 9/11. I figured I'd watch it just to see what lame kind of sh!t the truthers were whining about, so I dutifully watched. There was a certain part pointing out how impossibly the towers were coming down that I had never 'seen' before. It was like a sledgehammer blow square to the chest..I stared blankly at the scene playing it over and over again in utter disbelief thinking: " OH...MY...GOD...IT'S TRUE..." Things would never be the same.

So in that respect, I guess I could tie this incarnation in with 9/11, it being the big alarm clock, but IMHO it goes WAY deeper than that. I also agree with whoever it was here who said the people who died that day were 'on mission', much as many of us are prepared to do if need need be for mission completion.

I think you're right on there Dennis in a lot of respects. How can we possibly ever learn-or remember, the concept of unconditional love and forgiveness without being pushed to our most unimagined limits of doing so. How can we ever learn/remember what kind of stuff we are really made of without being pushed to those limits, and well beyond. Another thing, I contend that what happened on 9/11, and the subsequent terrible sequence of events leading right up to the present day, is in all actuality presenting us with a vitally important question that every living soul on this planet is being compelled to answer, whether they are conscious of it or not. The question that MUST be answered is: " IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? "

The answer to that question, either way, lays out your path chosen before incarnating, right before you.

Cheers,
Fred

One more thing that just occured to me. I think what we are beginning to see is universal law coming into effect, on many levels, for many reasons. Too many to go into now. But the point being, I think the more the cowardly parasites running this joint do to try and wrap up their plans, the more their plans are just going to 'somehow' wind up turning right back around against them. I don't envy their position.

bump this excellent post
so well said, Fred

jcocks
15th September 2011, 09:48
With 911, TPTW planted the seeds of their undoing. Like all plants, those seeds take time to grow..

Here's another thing for you : Why was the Bush clan so desperate to get Dubya voted in, that they went to so scandalous a means to get him in, at any cost.. I couldn't believe the extent of electoral fraud that was committed during those elections (can't remember the year at the moment..)? Is it possible that the 911 conspiracy could go back that far?

IMHO, Bush is/was too stupid to have any involvement in the events of that day, but the people behind him were PURE EVIL..

Kimberley
15th September 2011, 15:24
So Dennis what do you think about the responses you have gotten here? I am looking forward to hearing back from you on this! :luv:

Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 16:57
So Dennis what do you think about the responses you have gotten here? I am looking forward to hearing back from you on this! :luv:

Some very interesting observations and self-examination. I don't expect anyone to be able to answer the questions I posed for myself in a way that satisfies my own quest, but I am interested in how others answer those questions for themselves.

Through the perspective of history (if we know enough real history), we can pick out some of the defining moments of our history as a species and as civilizations. I think that even 1000 years from now, 9/11 will be recognized as one of those defining moments (not strictly for what happened to 3000 people on that day, but for the wave of dominance and oppression that was unleashed by the perpetrators of the event on that day.) So, for me, there's no doubt of the level and degree of the significance of 9/11, historically.

If my personal history spans multiple lifetimes and if Earth truly is a difficult "3-D" testing ground with a melange of the most enlightened "good" dancing with the most depraved "evil", then (from my very limited single-lifetime perspective), deciding to be born here and to live here now and experience 9/11 and its continuing aftermath seems so very important to my own history, and my own growth that I question whether "moving on" is the proper path for my spiritual growth and development. I suspect there is a strong chance there will be "something else" happening relatively soon, but suspect it is intended as a distraction from the spell of fear and powerlessness, cast on 9/11, that is wearing thin. I haven't really answered the questions I posed for myself, but that gives you a sense of what I'm thinking and feeling.


... I and many of you are not looking for revenge, we just want the truth to be told!

How did the WTC buildings turn into DUST? What free energy technology was used to do that? Who has hold of that technology? Most importantly how can we use that technology for the benefit of the world? I do not want revenge...I do not need justice.. . I am not in judgement of others so I have no one to forgive...I just want to know the truth!!! How about you!

I am so energized by the opportunity we have at this point of our evolution. I know that the majority of the people of the world are loving and caring and kind! I also know that there are dark and light forces at play on this planet and off this planet.

...

We are not looking for retaliation we are demanding the truth! And as you all know the truth will set you free!! And free energy will set us free too....



I recognize that you are incorporating a spiritual message - the desire to enter an era of shared abundance and peace, and the lack of a need for retaliation - and we harmonize on these points. We differ in a need for justice, and perhaps I'm simply less spiritually evolved. Even if they released the critical zero-point/free energy technological information that altered the course of humanity toward abundance and peace, I could not stand by and allow them to present that as a get out of jail free (or get out of karma free) card.

When the (very interesting) Judy Wood info got posted in this thread, I thought about asking the mods/admins to split it off into another thread. I realize these threads are all organic, and all of what has been offered by everyone is on-topic to 9/11, but some is off-topic to the questions posed in the original post to start the thread.

In some important ways, ascertaining the destructive mechanisms used on 9/11 is a sideshow. If we determine with certainty that it was an energy weapon, or ultra compact nuclear devices, or thermite-laced paint or "fireproofing" slathered all over every bit of steel in each building, we will really be no closer to convicting the perpetrators or stopping the machinery of war and oppression oiled by 9/11. And, no closer to answering the questions about spiritual path and spiritual growth that was the reason for creating this thread. I won't ask the thread to be split, but hope we can get a different thread about the mechanisms of 9/11 destruction, and I'd offer my thoughts on Judy Woods' material there.

Dennis

Buck
16th September 2011, 09:04
Dennis,

Thank you again for this great thread.

A team
All the souls that are manifest in physical form in this "now" are here under a somewhat different understanding than at other times. Yes we incarnate here. Yes we choose to come here. But we are not here to learn anything. We have nothing to learn. We arrive as ascended masters (especially now). We check in, manifesting at first in the womb, attaching to the invitation that was sent, fully equipped- magnificent, extraordinarily powerful beings, with permanent and irrevocable access to the ultimate cloud computer-the sea of universal consciousness, of which we are literally a perfect, infinitely powerful, fractal expression of everything that is, was and ever will be.

We know the rules on entry, we read the disclaimers. We will forget everything on arrival, we will be left with only our very primitive sensors that come with the physical device we inhabit.

B team
The PTB, beings who manifest and commit to Ego level identity, have no connection to the energy of universal consciousness. For them, it is a dog eat dog realm, an indifferent reality of scarce resources, and random senseless chaos. They have developed full command of the intellect, the firmware that is part of the physical body that we inhabit. They have oriented to a siege mentality. They have an invested, committed relationship to maintaining their existence as the dominant consciousness. The PTB have evolved a workaround for their lack of universal consciousness- by systematically collecting, and hoarding the knowledge of the higher realms, encoding it in hidden texts, and handing it down in secret, from generation to generation to ensure an advantage on the field of play- namely this physical realm. By using this leverage, they hold the rest of us in a dark enchantment, a fear induced stupor, manipulated to forget what we really are, we are drugged, hypnotized, physically weakened, beaten and poisoned- whatever it takes to keep things status quo.

And now it's late in the third quarter. And it sure looks bad. Real bad. The PTB have clearly developed a working understanding of some of the elemental laws of the universe, such as ritual sacrifice, that have enormous power. Like 911. Or the beheadings of civilian contractors in Iraq. Or the death of thousands of babies in Sudan by starvation, the Japanese Tsunami and a nuclear catastrophe of biblical proportions. Unthinkable horror- the tools of the game. Their game.

It's going to be down to the wire...

And the complication is, this realm is entirely malleable, as any realm is, by consent of the ALL. Of course, a smaller collective (when two or three are gathered) can potentially override it, but only when an authentic, conscious uplink is re-established to the Universal potential (Love). And in that sense, this particular realm, NOT all that is, but rather this particular realm, may be in jeopardy of being overtaken by a simple majority. The lower frequencies are the battle zone, and as we are seduced and manipulated into investing our consciousness in the EGO level energies of the PTB, we enhance their effectiveness.

FEAR is the binding agent that keeps Ego level consciousness in effect in this physical realm. It is very powerful- the dark energy of gravity, of mass.

and yet, it is no match for-

LOVE; the essence of every manifestation in the universe, of creation, destruction, of intelligence, of the light of consciousness.

btw-
shhhhh-remember, ritual sacrifice is not the sole provence of the B team.
It does not have to be about killing.

It's about exchange

Think it over...
Make up your own sacrifice, for your own intention.
In service of the universe, offer something of equivalence,
in love and gratitude.

Imagine;
This will be an astonishing ending.
As the lights come up in the darkened theater,
we will all be out of our seats, tears streaming down our faces.
Thundering applause, laughing and high fiving each other,
we wake up from this dream,
and walk out into the sunlight of joy,
of consciousness,
of all that is.

Kimberley
16th September 2011, 14:05
Dear Dennis , Buck and All,

I can only speak for myself, however I know there are 1000's of others that agree with me, The light is shinning stronger than the dark!!! We did it already we are victorious!! All we need to "do" now is keep being the change we see for the world (solar system, galaxy, universe, universes) Be Love NOW. Be Peace NOW! It is really that simple.

I posted this on my face book wall this past Sunday evening (9/11):

My I Am proclaims in co-creation with your I Am that we are Victorious...we are of Love, we are of Peace, and we are FREE !!!! The light is shining out from us over the universes and we have overcome the dark as we are light shining brightly forever more!!! The deepest of love, grace and gratitude is exclaimed to US ALL!!!! ♥ Let's celebrate from this moment on for all of time!!! I love us ALL!!! ♥ ♥ ♥ Whoo hoo what fun to be here NOW!!!!

And a good friend of mine, RPP, wrote this and posted it yesterday:

"Don't judge upon others which you wouldn't want upon one's self. Many are still "sleeping" & haven't "broken away from the matrix's control", enslaving humanity for eon's of time. Love thy neighbor is more than words, it's a way of living. Today, we're one step closer to the veil of darkness, secrecy n' deceit being lifted. We'll all get there. For the ones that don't, be OK with that too. Let others opinions of YOU, which don't flow with truth, be of great compliment (whether positive or not)."

Much love to us ALL!!! :luv:

Star1111
16th September 2011, 14:21
There have been many many terrible things that have happened on planet Earth.
I would say the people who witnessed WW2 and the concentration camp pictures in particular (whether they were real or not and I have no evidence either way) were probably incarnated on the Earth at that time to learn their lessons, probably similar to the lessons we need to learn now too in our incarnation at this time.
Have we, are we learning any lesssons, I'm not convinced the majority have or are, but I live in hope.

Buck
17th September 2011, 05:42
There have been many many terrible things that have happened on planet Earth.
I would say the people who witnessed WW2 and the concentration camp pictures in particular (whether they were real or not and I have no evidence either way) were probably incarnated on the Earth at that time to learn their lessons, probably similar to the lessons we need to learn now too in our incarnation at this time.
Have we, are we learning any lesssons, I'm not convinced the majority have or are, but I live in hope.

Star,
Hope is to wish for something that does not exist. Yet. Consider that embedded in that seemingly innocent and quite beautiful word, is the seed kernel of illusion. As you feel hope, you feel your yearning, a longing for something you do not have. It locates you in relationship to your desire. You are not "there", where your hope is.

It isn't much of a change, it isn't hard to do. But consider a substitution;

Imagine yourself enjoying that which you desire. Use your magnificent imagination, invite your self to indulge in imagining, as fully and with as much detail as you can muster, that you are where you yearn to be.

The illuminati do it all the time. And they make excellent use of your magnificent potential to transmute energy. As you witness their movies, their scary violent TV shows, the violent video games, their stages events and massive ritual sacrifices (911), as you read the news stories about all the awful things that people do to each other, as you think about the overwhelming damage to the air, the water, the soil of our planet, you are being used to support and literally create the very things that you are so afraid of.

Buck
17th September 2011, 06:52
Dennis,

as to the question of incarnating now, and did we incarnate now for a reason. I want to share something very personal, and at the risk of this being misunderstood as being about me, I want to offer this true story, that literally just happened today, as a literal demonstration of just a hint of what we are capable of. This is the moment, the now, when we are all under extraordinary challenges, to dare to believe in the truth of who we really are.

This is not a drill. And yet, as bad as it seems, as awful as things are right now, we are ready.

We are SO ready.

here you go;
About month ago, my closest friend, whom I have known for over 30 years, went in to have a small bump removed by the dermatologist, something so inconsequential looking that the same dermatologist had been discouraging my friend from having it removed for at least several years, saying it was nothing to worry about. But my friend, being somewhat vain (he would be the first to admit it) insisted on getting this thing removed and the doctor finally caved and took it out. A week later, on a Monday morning, my friend gets a phone call out of the blue. It's the doctor, calling with the results of the biopsy. After the first few sentences, when the doctor said the words I am sorry but I have some really bad news, my friend said he was aware of starting to feel lightheaded and detached, like he was in bad dream. The doctor went on to tell him that he has cancer, lymphoma, there was no doubt about it.

The following emails are excerpts from the dialogue that my friend had during the last month. They start w the oldest at the top and end at the bottom, on today's date.

first letter; a month ago, first report from my friend when he went in for his tests;

I'm grouping all of you in on this report, inconsequential as it is.
Right now I'm radioactive, and will be all of today. I was kept in a sad little room, after having had radioactive juice shot into my vein, for 45 minutes, while it circulated. One interesting side effect was the little abstract paintings that buzzed in my peripheral vision, making it impossible to read all the tired travel magazines, full of happy people without cancer, playing on beaches and dining at exotic restaurants. Then it was into the lead lined doom room where I was maneuvered back and forth through a humming tube, turning me into the largest recreation of sexual congress in the world. Added to the humiliating pantomime was the fact that my pants were down around my ankles, while otherwise I was completely dressed. I would have preferred a hospital johnny. Anyway, it made the whole thing that much more undignified. I'm sure the technicians and nurses in the booth were all laughing their heads off. The hardest part was keeping both my arms above my head for half an hour. The right arm went dead immediately, and became heavy and completely insensitive. I lay there poking at it with my left hand. It felt like somebody else's roast beef.
I was then unceremoniously ejected from the house of horrors, and will now have to imagine how bad it is till Wednesday.
Reporting to you from Death's Green Room,
This has been (C)

I wrote to my friend in response, but I also wrote it to the group;

We all wait with you C, I hope you feel us all with you. We are there, (sure as I sit here tapping on my talking picture pad as (my little son) calls it) our spirits all crowded into that same drab sad little waiting room, some of us sitting in silence, others making tea, maybe the brave ones telling jokes, some pacing back and forth, and yes, all of us, thumbing through the tired travel magazines, trying to think of other things.

-other things,
like this-

Imagine the walls are thin, we hear a discussion between technicians as they view the results. Not what they were expecting to see. It's a spontaneous and inexplicable diminishing, the technicians check and double check the results, puzzled by the lack of evidence of what they themselves had perhaps expected to be present. Doctors are called, puzzled, conferring, checking back on previous conclusions, revising, adjusting to the new evidence.

Imagine an anomaly.
Like all of us being here
now

-2 weeks later, this is the first report sent from my friend when he went to get his test results;

to All
The Scan was clear. Zero appearance elsewhere in the body. A perfect score, as the doc put it.
But.
That meant a bone marrow sample was necessary. 50/50 chance of it being in the bone. Right now I'm classified Stage (_). If it tests positive in the bone, I jump to Stage 4. I asked him if that was more or less a death sentence. He said it has more to do with how much is in the bone, and what kind of treatment we decide on, but seemed to give the impression that no, it is not necessarily a death sentence. If I test negative in the bone, then we go to isolated radiation behind the ear, zap the bitch, and then monitor in coming years. I must wait a couple of weeks for results of bone test.
Bone sample was a bitch. Novocaine and then big shot in hip bone, where he took a core sample. Not fun. But not as bad as I was ready for. Right now it feels like I got worked over with a baseball bat.
Nevertheless, I'm ecstatic that the scan was clear. (R) was right there, providing courage and support.
So, it was the best I could have hoped for. Please continue to keep fingers crossed, incense burning, and whatever mojo you've all been good enough to send my way. So far, it's working.

-and today, two weeks of waiting, my friend goes in for the results of his bone test. This is the email I got from him this morning;

today=
On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:05 AM, (C) wrote:

Bone is clean 100 percent.
I will live. Un****ing believable. Very emotional right now.

kudzy
18th September 2011, 14:14
......and then get back to me ok???


Hi Kimberley and others;

I listened to both interviews (Mel's and Henrik's) and also the one from the Conscious Media Network. I've also studied some of the other theories/information out there. I haven't read Dr. Wood's book yet, "Where Did The Towers Go?" but I did read over her website.

I very much like her evidence based approach. I also liked what she said about the A&E's for 911 Truth. I paraphrase "If you want a new investigation, well you're the experts, go do it!" She lays out a lot of very convincing Evidence and avoids speculation. Her work IS the new investigation.

Perhaps, thermite was used, either as a diversion or to initiate collapse. But it sure didn't turn both towers into dust in mid air.

As far as reincarnation and purpose for being here;
It seems some people just can't handle the reality of 911. I have a strong constitution when it comes to facing the darker realities. I believe it's of the up-most importance to get to the truth of 911, to honor the victims, heal the nation and for justice. The irony is that it's pointing towards Free Energy. And Free Energy could potentially lead us into a Golden Age! So in the big, big picture, all those lives are not lost in vain.

I have no idea what my purpose is in all this. But Spirit calls me to dig deeper, so I dig deeper.

Much Love!

Buck
19th September 2011, 08:57
Kudzy,

Astounding lack of relevance here, Kudzy.
Did this just feel like the right moment to drop in, and share your book review on how the towers fell, or how much you liked a show you saw on A&E? - to interject and impress us with your conclusions about thermite and the evidence of scalar weaponry? Is that what the two pages of conversation that preceded your participation seem to be trending towards? You did notice the thread topic is "Maybe 9-11 is why we incarnated now" ?

But wait, there's more;

After you impressed us with your powers of reason, you go on to serve up some stern medicine. You proclaim that "some people" just can't handle "the truth of 911". You seem to be implying that the topic we are all in conversation about is delusional, based on not having a strong enough constitution to face the "darker realities", we huddle together and tell each other comforting new age fairy tales.

Really.

Thankfully, there is someone here to call us on it. Someone like you, who, as you so aptly proclaim yourself " a person with a "strong constitution when it comes to facing the darker realities".

Thank heavens for Kudzy.

If I was a mod (which I am not) and I was responsible for the rules of conduct on this forum (I am not), you would be fortunate to just get flagged for being off topic. I wouldn't be real big on warnings and time outs either. Not now. I would move to ban you. That (hypothetical) decision would be based entirely on your current state of consciousness and spiritual evolution, which is in my own hypothetical example here, your true and only real qualification for membership in this community. The one thing I do agree with you on is a sense of urgency. And that is exactly what would compel me to act, to do something that might appear extremely harsh. But that is only because right now, especially now, I believe it is imperative to be selective, we need everyone who can make the shift to the appropriate frequency on board. Everything one else, all the drama, the disinfo, the personal issues, and yes, posts like yours, are, in my opinion, just noise. We need the highest, the cleanest signal to noise ration we can possibly inspire.

I see posts like yours Kudzo, and others on here that seem to really struggle with basic issues (a dedication to spiritual awareness and consciousness in whatever form of practice, a common appreciation, courtesy and respect for divergent views and information) which would imply that members understand context, like in your case here.

I get frustrated. I admit it. There are so many brilliant and truly courageous people in this community (several of them on this thread you derailed Kudzo). I want to remind the members of Avalon to be careful, in my opinion, to not be so worried about offending people, and being inclusive, that we spend our energies on the equivalent of spiritual kindergarten, working in earnest to lift the beginners into the boat, while the planets collide around us.

ThePythonicCow
19th September 2011, 09:25
Kudzy - guess we're both "lucky" that Buck isn't a mod :) :). I had to look back over this thread to see if I had discussed the physics of Judy Wood's analysis before making this reply. I was surprised to see I had not.

Buck - I for one, and perhaps Kudzy as well, am quite more comfortable with my understanding of physics than of the spiritual. It is through the physical nature of the crime that I come to intuit its enormity in other dimensions in which I am less well grounded.

I did not sense a thread derailment here ... at most a detour or alternative approach.

Buck
19th September 2011, 10:18
Kudzy - guess we're both "lucky" that Buck isn't a mod :) :). I had to look back over this thread to see if I had discussed the physics of Judy Wood's analysis before making this reply. I was surprised to see I had not.

Buck - I for one, and perhaps Kudzy as well, am quite more comfortable with my understanding of physics than of the spiritual. It is through the physical nature of the crime that I come to intuit its enormity in other dimensions in which I am less well grounded.

I did not sense a thread derailment here ... at most a detour or alternative approach.

Dear Paul,
I am grateful I am not a mod here either, I would do a terrible job (obviously :) I hope I did not sound like I was carping about the work everyone does to keep Avalon running. I think the mods do a great job here and it is an incredible challenge to fill those shoes.

As to your observation that Kudzy's comments, with all due respect- maybe if this thread was " Physical evidence to support 9-11 was an inside job" instead of "Maybe 9-11 is why we reincarnated now", I might have an easier time appreciating your defense of Kudzy's post. As it stands I see your comments as a more polite, but essentially similar relation to the thread topic.

your opinion of the topic;
"It is through the physical nature of the crime that I come to intuit its enormity in other dimensions in which I am less well grounded."

Kudzy's opinion of the topic;
"It seems some people just can't handle the reality of 911."

In contrast with Kudzy, your comment is much more civil and non-judgemental. But even so, your opinion is still not topical in that the thread is more specific than how you feel about 9-11. It is "Maybe 9-11 is why we reincarnated now", which to me, is inviting a conversation about reincarnation, life's purposefulness from a soul level perspective, what would some of the signs be that we indeed reincarnated at this time for a reason, what is free will, does intention carry through multiple lifetimes, destiny, etc. I do not see the thread as an invitation to discuss the various theories and physical evidence of 9-11.

ThePythonicCow
19th September 2011, 10:26
But even so, your opinion is still not topical in that the thread is more specific than how you feel about 9-11.
Agreed :).

Carry-on.

Dennis Leahy
19th September 2011, 13:05
I take responsibility for creating the confusion about the topic's realm - by mistakenly putting the topic in "9/11", under "Conspiracy Research." I wasn't thinking clearly when I chose that sub-forum.

At this point, I'd like to ask if one of the mods/admins can please move it to "Spirituality." Sorry for creating the confusion.

Dennis

ThePythonicCow
19th September 2011, 14:04
At this point, I'd like to ask if one of the mods/admins can please move it to "Spirituality." Sorry for creating the confusion.
Done - I moved to Spirituality (with a redirect link left for one day only from the 9/11 subforum)

Dennis Leahy
19th September 2011, 14:15
At this point, I'd like to ask if one of the mods/admins can please move it to "Spirituality." Sorry for creating the confusion.
Done - I moved to Spirituality (with a redirect link left for one day only from the 9/11 subforum)
Gracias, my friend!

Dennis

Buck
19th September 2011, 21:44
At this point, I'd like to ask if one of the mods/admins can please move it to "Spirituality." Sorry for creating the confusion.
Done - I moved to Spirituality (with a redirect link left for one day only from the 9/11 subforum)
Gracias, my friend!

Dennis

Dennis- thank you, again for initiating such an inspiring conversation, I look forward to continuing, in whatever form.

And Paul- I really appreciate your evenhandedness and your clarity- good call.

Billy
21st September 2011, 20:18
I hope you do do not mind me posting these links here. but i do feel it there is a connection with 9/11

Seismic evidence reveals underground nuclear detonation south of Washington DC.
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009


Evidence: Denver and DC Quakes Caused by Nukes

http://pesn.com/2011/09/18/9501916_Evidence_Denver_and_DC_Quakes_Caused_by_Nu kes/

Dennis Leahy
21st September 2011, 20:56
Hi Billy,

Well, I'd have to say it is more than a stretch to include those links in a discussion of why we may have reincarnated during the period of time including the 9/11 events. The idea is to try to steer this back into a discussion of reincarnation timing, not the specifics of the 9/11 events themselves (if this is even related to 9/11.) If you do a search for "Virginia Colorado nuclear", you might find a better place for the links, such as here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28812-Russia-Reports-Nuclear-Explosion-hit-Vast-Military-Tunnel-Network&p=292214&highlight=denver+virginia#post292214

Thanks,

Dennis

Billy
28th September 2011, 22:45
Dennis,
why did you personally choose to be reincarnated in this period in of time including 9/11 events.

Thanks

Billy