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Rocky_Shorz
11th February 2013, 05:51
I just saw the movie where they use Captain Nemo's ship to escape from Atlantis...

why Nemo?

http://www.pixotosh.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nemo-1024x7681.jpg

Calz
11th February 2013, 05:53
No, that is interesting, a skype friend asked me earlier tonight do you ever remember them naming a snow storm before, I don't, does anyone else?

They started doing it this year (for whatever reason).

Don't remember anything prior.

when you name something, a hurricane, a twister, a storm, you make it personnal. The storm becomes a person, a living thing, and as it is somewhat difficult or dangerous, it becomes a personal danger, much more fear creating.

If I tell you there is a storm coming with 30 inches of snow, this is a huge storm, you may decide to stay home. If I tell you that Irene is coming with 30 inches of snow, it makes it more personal and your worries are more focused as well as your fear. And also you feel like you have less control, it is Irene creating the trouble, you are powerless. Versus just another storm on which you have some control.

This is my take on this storms naming. As well as hurricanes naming.

... and the official word from the maxtrix (weather version anyway ...):

_______________________


Why The Weather Channel is Naming Winter Storms

Tom Niziol Published: Nov 11, 2012, 10:30 AM EST weather.com

The Weather Channel will name noteworthy winter storms. Our goal is to better communicate the threat and the timing of the significant impacts that accompany these events. The fact is, a storm with a name is easier to follow, which will mean fewer surprises and more preparation.

Naming Winter Storms
Hurricanes and tropical storms have been given names since the 1940s. In the late 1800s, tropical systems near Australia were named as well. Weather systems, including winter storms, have been named in Europe since the 1950s. Important dividends have resulted from attaching names to these storms:

•Naming a storm raises awareness.
•Attaching a name makes it much easier to follow a weather system’s progress.
•A storm with a name takes on a personality all its own, which adds to awareness.
•In today’s social media world, a name makes it much easier to reference in communication.
•A named storm is easier to remember and refer to in the future.

____________________________


more ... including a list of names ...

http://www.weather.com/news/why-we-name-winter-storms-20121001

gripreaper
11th February 2013, 05:57
Is this what the Mandelbrot looks like when you zoom in?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jGaio87u3A#t=0s

So, how deep "does" the rabbit hole go?

astrid
11th February 2013, 06:46
Am yet to catch up on current "happenings"

Just spent the day with an awake and very conscious friend
those contacts in 3D terms are a rare thing for me
it was such good food for the soul.

Now i shall read and catch up.

Love you all

gripreaper
11th February 2013, 06:54
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/775805_407767879312287_1668497685_o.jpg

meeradas
11th February 2013, 07:02
Just spent the day with an awake and very conscious friend
those contacts in 3D terms are a rare thing for me
it was such good food for the soul.

Yea, real 'satsang' - essential nourishment.
Good stuff.

astrid
11th February 2013, 07:46
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Brrrrrr

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astrid
11th February 2013, 07:51
grip.. your last post is blank at my end,
using invisible ink??

Carmody, rocket stove are the coolest darn thing i have
seen in heating.. ever. Have my mind made up to build one
maybe not this year though.. next house.

One of the big, Permie farms in Aus uses one to supply
hot water, and it works like a charm.
Showers 30 people, no problems.
Genius

http://milkwood.net/category/appropriate-technology/rocket-stoves/

http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

Stacks of info at above links.

Calz
11th February 2013, 07:54
grip.. your last post is blank at my end,
using invisible ink??



Images don't always translate well.

I get in more damn trouble thanking things I cannot even see :rofl:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/775805_407767879312287_1668497685_o.jpg

astrid
11th February 2013, 11:30
interesting, the Pope is resigning,
i wonder who pushed him.

Christine
11th February 2013, 12:10
Kryon's use of the term implant is different than what's commonly seen.

My place of business was in the path of the tornado that blew through Hattiesburg this evening. If I hadn't gone out of my way to get cat food before heading back from Jackson, I'd likely have crossed paths with that bad boy. We were stuck for two hours while the highway was cleared for traffic tonight, having arrived about 45 min after the storm. It did serious damage to the main thorough fare through town. Many homes and businesses were damaged or destroyed. I did have opportunity to tell a friend, it's better to have a roof in your tree than a tree in your roof.

Sending my best thoughts to you Reilly - So glad you had cats to take care of! Blessings.

Marianne
11th February 2013, 12:20
Reilly, I'm so glad to hear you confirm that you and your family are okay.

What about Playdo?

Christine
11th February 2013, 12:20
rocket stove mass heater

http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

rocket mass heaters in a nutshell:

heat your home with 80% to 90% less wood
exhaust is nearly pure steam and CO2 (a little smoke at the beginning)
the heat from one fire can last for days
you can build one in a day and half
folks have built them spending less than $20



the verbose details on rocket mass heaters:

This could be the cleanest and most sustainable way to heat a conventional home. Some people have reported that they heat their home with nothing more than the dead branches that fall off the trees in their yard. And they burn so clean, that a lot of sneaky people are using them illegally, in cities, without detection.

When somebody first told me about rocket mass heaters, none of it made sense. The fire burns sideways? No smoke? If a conventional wood stove is 75% efficient, doesn't that mean the most wood you could possibly save is something like 25%? How do you have a big hole right over the fire and not have the house fill with smoke? I was skeptical.

And then I saw one in action. The fire really does burn sideways. The exhaust is near room temperature - and very clean. The smoke doesn't come back up because a huge amount of air is getting sucked into the wood hole. Neat! I sat on one that had not had a fire in it for 24 hours - it was still hot!

http://www.richsoil.com/images/rocket-mass-heater-animation.gif

Sigma6 started a whole thread about rocket mass heaters yesterday. Sync! And a friend that visited me was ablaze with the idea of building one. :) Just adding this note as I see a communication happening along unseeen lines and this may be very necessary information to have.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55601-Rocket-mass-heaters&p=633323&viewfull=1#post633323

Lisab
11th February 2013, 12:22
Wow news in the matrix, the pope has resigned!

AwakeInADream
11th February 2013, 12:29
Isn't the next (and last) Pope supposed to be the anti-christ? According to prophecy...

Has a Pope ever resigned before?

Calz
11th February 2013, 12:32
Isn't the next (and last) Pope supposed to be the anti-christ? According to prophecy...

Has a Pope ever resigned before?


Post #4 and #10:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55666-Pope-Benedict-Leaves-Papacy-28th-February-2013

eaglespirit
11th February 2013, 15:03
Love, Love, Love to All You Beautiful Villagers!

I made it to Michigan... on my way to Peru in a couple weeks!

Wishing Everyone in the 'eye' of the storm Good Tidings in the aftermath.

Stayed on the Cape to 'dig out' the Kids...lost power early in the blizzard, used Tara's fireplace for the first time to keep them warm...the Grandkids all went to Their Grandmother's place with power as the storm was settling down. I headed west at 4pm that day.

....
I'll catch up with All of You later...Onward and Upward : )

CdnSirian
11th February 2013, 15:11
Watching snow diggers on the tv - hope you all get power back quickly.

Slept so well the past 2 nights on an earthing sheet someone gave me.

Ernie - maybe it's time to finish that fabulous story you're spinning on TE's thread. Put it up on via amazon self publishing - I'll buy a copy!

1inMany
11th February 2013, 15:14
Things are getting flat out weird in the "real" world. It is disturbing. I lived for many years, most of my life, completely immersed in raising my children, living my 3d life, blind to any other realm or influences.

Then I started realizing that there is much more to this existence, behind the scenes. My inability to recognize truth was confusing and led me to finally turn away from looking. The volume of information readily accessible any more is overwhelming at the very least. Then I realized that truth is a worthwhile goal in theory, but whatever it takes to find it is what I'm not wired with.

The very little I understand from my birth chart is that I am easily swayed. This is not due to an intellectual deficit or because I am emotionally off balance or because of some weakness (that I can tell), but from the ability to see the different sides of an issue. I can see that this theory could be true, or that theory could be true, or even the wildest idea might be true. I think what compounds the difficulty for me is that I look at different ideas or prophecies or even information on the internet, and the questions I find myself asking care "Could this be true? Is this in the realm of possibilities? Does this make sense?"

All my investigations lead me to the final question of, "Is this true?" And my answer is almost always...I can't tell. It could be. It could happen.

Could some nefarious force be behind the recent bizarre snowstorm(s), the destructive forces of weather, the way that people are falling apart all around me, the way events are happening that rock my world (and those close to me)? It's possible, it is in the realm of possibility.

I wish I would start stumbling onto or bumping into information that strikes my inner gong so strongly that I know what's what, not that everyone else will agree with what's what, but that I will know for myself. Knowing what's what leads to action, at least that is what I'm thinking here and now. Inaction, for me, comes from the inability to figure out what the hell is going on. Identify it, deal with it. Right?

I hope your family is safe, Reilly. And I hope my prayers your way are heard, Ernie. And I hope that everyone buried with snow has heat and food. And I hope that anyone who reads this can feel how much I appreciate you All.

Much Love,

zenith
11th February 2013, 15:36
Hi All, long time reader first time poster,

The recent Kryon talk reminded me of the question (actually I got 2 in ;)) I asked about 10 years ago.
It was what I was grappling with at the time but afterwards I wished I'd formulated my questions better,


Q: Dear Kryon, is the expression and movement of energy based upon the inherent properties of the circle/sphere?
Do the polygons that we can't presently construct geometrically link or connect with those we can. If so how?

A: The movement of energy indeed has sacred geometry at it's core. However, that's only the shell of what's really
there. Think of the shapes as containers for the energy, and the vessels of their potential. They structure something
that has no structure. You won't like this answer, since I won't give you a shape, and I can't fully describe the beautiful
truths that are actually here. Energy is like that. It doesn't come with much shape, but certain shapes "point" to the
core of it. This is very difficult to explain. Think of someone finding sunlight, and thinking it's the end of the line, not
realizing that there's a sun somewhere making it.

Shapes and designs play a tremendous part in your sacredness, but they're only the shadows of what's inside them.
As you use them, however, you actually emulate the core of the DNA, the medullas, and the relationships of the 12
(lots of 4's and 3's). There are generic shapes that are known to have energy, but the "magic" is in interdimensional
aspects, and these have to be transparent in your mind and intersect in complex ways that move through each other
and violate 4D lines. These things simply cannot be drawn, or given from me to you.

I know you wish to construct shapes that will do things and create energy, but there's a limit to what you can do in 4D,
and basically you have reached it. the next step has to be what your mind can be taught to visualize, and that can never
be recorded, drawn, or conveyed to another. However, it can be sent!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here and now, it's hot. 41 degrees today. Quit hogging all that snow over there. :)


Peace

Calz
11th February 2013, 15:38
Things are getting flat out weird in the "real" world.




Between Oklahoma and Nebraska is Kansas ... and ...


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donk
11th February 2013, 15:58
Exciting morning, this is down the street (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130211/NEWS01/302110044/2-killed-2-wounded-NCCo-Courthouse-shooter-also-dead)from where I work. I can see the cop cars blocking off the road...

The whole world has indeed gone crazy.

Calz
11th February 2013, 16:02
Either "they" are triggering folks programmed for such ... or else "they" are turning up the juice on the crazy machine???

... less conspiracy minded ... perhaps the magnetosphere is continuing to weaken effecting our brains???

... else I am simply babbling yet again???

1inMany
11th February 2013, 16:06
Either "they" are triggering folks programmed for such ... or else "they" are turning up the juice on the crazy machine???

... less conspiracy minded ... perhaps the magnetosphere is continuing to weaken effecting our brains???

... else I am simply babbling yet again???

Haha, I don't think you are babbling...which actually isn't saying anything considering how much sense I have not been making. I could answer those questions for you...could be.

Problem is, we ain't in Oz either, haha.

Carmody
11th February 2013, 16:08
Exciting morning, this is down the street (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130211/NEWS01/302110044/2-killed-2-wounded-NCCo-Courthouse-shooter-also-dead)from where I work. I can see the cop cars blocking off the road...

Yeah....it isn't the gun violence, per se. It's that people will use the tools they have at hand.

I watched a bit of an interview with Piers Morgan a while ago. All I needed was about 2 minutes, and it was enough. What piers did, is he used half stats, he selectively used half statistics, not a full statistic. He mentioned gun stats for murder in the US as a comparison to other murder rates with guns in other countries. Countries where gun ownership was curtailed. What he failed to mention is the murder rates in the other countries still existed, but that they where committed with other devices, devices other than guns. That people are people, regardless of the given tools they may have at hand. That desire, the will , the drive to commit to a given action still exists, regardless of the environment of means.

In the same moment, comes the secondary point of manipulation via a half thought or a presentation of a half reality. That he presented from an idealization of government and society.

The idea projected yet unspoken, that society was flawed, but that the backdrop of governmental systems was perfect in some fashion. That if people give up their guns, that there is no other potential baddie in the multi-layered and multi-faceted mix. The problem is that this projection of his....discounts about 12,000 years of human history.


Here's an interesting statistic:
That if one says that gun availability is what is killing the world, and then turns to America to disarm them, there is a problem with that idea and presentation. That the American public cannot be trusted with guns, and needs to be disarmed.

That the number of murders (gun realted) vs law on gun ownership and use, the USA as compared to the rest of the world in that statistic..which is the sheer availability of guns vs their use, per capita... in all expressions.....that the American population has more sensibility and control of their guns than any other societal group in human history.

Ernie Nemeth
11th February 2013, 16:10
Don't worry, the world is not ending.

It is just righting itself, slowly. And the people on this thread have more to do with that positive statement than I think most can realize.

I'm sending peace and healing to all who need it, and the clarity to find the most positive solution to any problems.

hugs

Carmody
11th February 2013, 16:47
Either "they" are triggering folks programmed for such ... or else "they" are turning up the juice on the crazy machine???

... less conspiracy minded ... perhaps the magnetosphere is continuing to weaken effecting our brains???

... else I am simply babbling yet again???

Electrostatic charge sheeting is what creates a mirror in dimensional energies. Or a barrier, a resonance point of reflection and thus a door or similar, regarding time and information flow across dimensions..time-streams and 'different energetic systems'.

this is why skrying (mirror gazing) works as a device and a tool for seeing through time. that the particular point of change in atomic differential and the local atomic joining process, the local atomic/dimensional coupling process, creates a differential zone/shift.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrying

This why they speak of the atmosphere of the earth and the van Allen belts being a barrier for souls, and that we are limited to earth, why pyramids work, why Wilhelm Reich's orgone and cloudbusters work, and so on.

That a crystal works, not as it is just a crystal, but the barrier of it's surface vs that or the air, that this issue of it splitting light ....is that this happens with lets say granite and air, with regard to dimensional energies, but that we cannot see it with the naked eye, like that of light and the crystal. It's still happening, but with different wave-functions than that of visible light. The geometry of the object presents a given pressured resonant dimensional etheric flow, like a motor system in geometric resonance, like a horn, with that of air.

Thus, go and look at a cloudbuster again, with Oliver Heaviside's statement that a conductor is not a conductor, but a perfect restrictor. And like a crystal, that all the action happens at the differentiation state or point, at the surface between the air and the solid, and this becomes a multi faceted and refracted dimensional flow.

That the electricity is not flowing through the wire, but rather the existence of the wire in 3d and 4-5-6-xd space, that this 'solid' is a disturbance of (and within) a multi-dimensional pressurized zone (the complex aether)..and the dimensional energies are fractured and pushed aside by it's existence, and that the skin effect zone is a multi-dimensional translation or refraction zone.

This is why people report that in ethereal form, in their higher dimensional existence..or when on the drug salvia (connected to their higher self through a forced effect) they get 'stuck in solids'. That their etheric self is stuck in the restrictive, lower dimensional slowing or 'sticky' materials.

That the difference in the metals vs air creates a dimensional resonator in geometric related time/space flow, with regard to sub light speed, light speed and supra light speed dimensional flow systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbuster

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/WilhelmReichcloudbuster2.jpg

donk
11th February 2013, 17:11
Thanks for the Igan astrid, he's always a great listen, I am going to check that out now.

I found a new Weidner interview, really good, just got done...he touches on archons (as usual) so I posted it there, mentions Sandy Hook though not specific enough to warrant posting to that thread...check it out, it is unusally (for the subject matter) solution-based and optimistic...he takes the "not like them approach" as opposed to the John Lash "string them up, all out war" approach"...

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Calz
11th February 2013, 17:15
Thanks for the Igan astrid, he's always a great listen, I am going to check that out now.

I found a new Weidner interview, really good, just got done...he touches on archons (as usual) so I posted it there, mentions Sandy Hook though not specific enough to warrant posting to that thread...check it out, it is unusally (for the subject matter) solution-based and optimistic...he takes the "not like them approach" as opposed to the John Lash "string them up, all out war" approach"...

Link???

I love Jay (book and several of his DVDs).

(thank you for adding :thumb: )

Carmody
11th February 2013, 17:23
So when someone is using a crystal or device in work, healing, what have you..that the device is creating a disturbance and refraction zone, in multidimensional terms and this disturbance is like an opening or flow point.

that there is nothing going through the object, per se, but that it is an aspect of xyz or 3-space multi-dimensional field and flow disturbance. In the disturbance zone proper, that is the place where all the 'action' happens. where resonant interaction with multi-dimensions creates energetic egress and/or field-flow translation-transition.

That this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

is the same as this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction

One visible with the human eye, the other..not visible with the human eye.

Now you can get an idea of why I said that when in ethereal form, I used the high tension wires as a superhighway. I used the dimensional refraction zone along them, that was expressed in their complex electrical fields. Which takes you back to HAARP and so on. (a million other things should slowly become clear) (incense or smoke/smudging etc, works like that of alchemical works. The same as deep space dimensional sheeting and flow systems-which are highly charged plasma sheets and areas)

Then the calcite molecules in the pineal gland.

Birefringence.

TWO states or flows (in the material), and then into ONE (the boundary zone). That the pineal is a dimensional duality window, like sensing two flows, not one, and then their application into 'one'. Wave particle and the slit experiment.

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That you can SEE it visible light wise in calcite (visualization) but it also happens in other materials, some of the ones you can't see through and also the things like cloudbusters, pyramids, and so on.

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That particles, are made up of a minimum of two two dimensional fields, meeting..in an in-out vortex. That the pineal gland appears to be a tool for seeing through time-flow complex dual source systems (2d fields)..and defining them into the particle based -3d timespace or 'our common reality'.

The double slit experiment works as it is the effective energies (multiple 2d fields in interaction are the 'electron') that the electrons are based on.. which are interacting.

donk
11th February 2013, 17:54
I'll tell you what, reading my local paper for the first time in a long time gave me waaaay worse feeling/energy than any damn thread around here...it is disturbing to see what people are exposed to, what passes for information these days :hurt:

Anyway the story is unfolding that I linked to earlier, the Wilmington shooting (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130211/NEWS/130211006/Sources-Courthouse-shooter-ex-optometrist-who-kidnapped-kids?odyssey=mod|breaking|img|Home)....turns out the dude had kidnapped his kids in aught-seven, I found this nugget interesting the first line is about him, I guess he wasn't on the "meds" so that's why he kidnapped his family??


"He went on to say things like, 'I hear voices in my head," and "I can't live without you," and "I can control other people's thoughts,' " she said in the 2008 interview. "It scared me very badly."


The next day, she called county police and sought a temporary protection-from-abuse order, which was granted Jan. 3, 2006.


At a hearing 10 days later, the order was lifted after Belford said she should not have taken his words as threats, court records show.


Matusiewicz also filed a protection-from-abuse petition, alleging Belford had stopped taking her anti-depressant medication and left the children unattended or with strangers. His petition was denied. They briefly tried to reconcile, to no avail.



Just a little seemingly "throw away" bit o' 'information'...the dude got custody cuz mom went OFF glaxosmithklienEliLilypfizerastrazenecadow's wonderful products....

***ADDED***

OK...I'm officially done with this one now...if you feel like tooling around my local rag (Delaware News Journal) for details, there's 3-4 stories "evolving" at the moment, have fun.

What I had posted was on the front page at the time (with creepy mug shot, as is tradition), and that article is a profile of the "lleged, possibly-maybe suspect".

This from the "news" article, that seems to try to keep to relevant facts:


Law enforcement and legal sources initially told The News Journal that the shooter was identified as David T. Matusiewicz, a 45-year-old former optometrist who spent time in federal prison for kidnapping his three daughters and bank fraud in 2007. Those sources now say the shooter’s identity is unclear. It was unknown whether police killed the shooter when returning fire or if he took his own life.



Wouldn't that have been nice to know BEFORE running a 2 page article on him?? Seems like every story is Sandy Hook now...

Carmody
11th February 2013, 18:08
that which tries to control us, is attempting a full repression of the base levels where the human avatar operates.

This repression is resulting in lopsided humans, ones who are dimensionally 'retarded'....and have no full balance. they can't find their balance as they've never been introduced to the concept. Concepts they should have learned as a child.

Should it be that easy, or are we learning to understand what it is like to have difficulties in these areas? After all.... sameness breeds nothingness.

No differentiation, is a nothing space, an unchanging space. Comfortable..... but as useless as tits on a boar when it comes to being a dimensional act of 'organized matter as intelligence and self recognition'.

Welcome to the earth school, and it's attempted domination by one. Enjoy your kick in the ass. After all, you signed on for it. (some say the opposite)

donk
11th February 2013, 18:14
After all, you signed on for it. (some say the opposite)

I take it you are not "some"?

I guess part of the pre-reincarnication contract is never being able to know if you really signed up or not?

I know one thing, someone got the "first rule of 'fight club' down": the first rule of choosing your incarnation into amnesia is that you don't talk about the possibility that you choose to be reincarnated with amnesia...

Calz
11th February 2013, 18:18
That clip from the Wizard of Oz movie ...

Perhaps only those my age (and perhaps not all those) really appreciate the memories there.

It was a once a year television *miracle* ... absolute bliss ... beyond words really.

Yes other generations have their peak movie moments but this was different in that there was nothing to compare ... for *YEARS*.

Today other comparable movies come along every several weeks.

Wizard of Oz was the bringer of joys and imagination for many many years.


Sorry ... senior moment ... back to your normally programmed programs ... (not here and now of course)


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Carmody
11th February 2013, 18:21
After all, you signed on for it. (some say the opposite)

I take it you are not "some"?

I guess part of the pre-reincarnication contract is never being able to know if you really signed up or not?

I know one thing, someone got the "first rule of 'fight club' down": the first rule of choosing your incarnation into amnesia is that you don't talk about the possibility that you choose to be reincarnated with amnesia...

Now you're getting it, now you're getting it.

Since it is amnesia ..or..that the energies (complex intelligence)cannot transgress the polarized dimensional barriers very well (Camelot's Otis Carr interview about using UFO's and the result), which results in amnesia like symptoms....and the body is designed to be paranoid (an effect or result) as a base level self projection/protection (autonomous body functions) for learning and safety of the avatar..is this true......or a paranoid twist?

Am I truthful, or am I full of Illuminati-reptilian projections?

Or is it both?

Would you like fries with that? Supersize you, maybe?


I THINK I stated it a bit more clear at the end of the 'soul harvester' thread. That when we come here, we could be seen as a version of a student hopeful that 'goes to the wars' in order to learn.

And that we have a reptilian agenda here, that is attempting to take over a natural learning and incarnating ground or space. A place where beings could incarnate, in peace, and in ease. Which is a no change state, this commonality and ease...that slips us down into/toward nothingness....as comfortable as it may be/seem/feel.

But now, this thing has escalated into a war of expression in dimensional space for dimensional beings... vs that of a controlling race taking over the space/place/planet/system, for their own desire or use? That this was a beautiful place for dimensionals to integrate with the flora and fauna... and now it's a war zone? Hell? Hell is a scholastic incarnation on the planet earth? It sure don't feel like no vacation, I tells ya.

edit:

Note that what appears to be encircling you and your attempts to break free, seems to be elevating itself one step ahead of the collective, in all ways. Curiously enough.... like a set of stairs.

That 'everything is as it should be' is also workable and connected to 'wake up and break free from your worldly and dimensional slavery'. That they could be considered to be one and the same? That one should encourage the breaking free as much as they should encourage the everything is as it should be? That both are true? That the consequences are real for your avatar and for your dimensional development?

Read the works of Micheal Newton, or is he just some reptilian plant, added in.. to turn us away? (those basterds!)

dan33
11th February 2013, 18:28
Happy Chinese New Year.

http://i.imgur.com/LfQcYyu.gif

That's amazing and beautiful! Year of the snake!


UNBREAKABLE great movie

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Flash
11th February 2013, 18:32
What if I am "some"?

Better, super fries please, supersized, it makes me feel filled and sleepy. lol

Oh my gosh, it is lunch time here and this comment just gave me the taste for real French fries. Base level, projection/protection in action.

donk
11th February 2013, 18:41
What if I am "some"?


...well then I wanna hear all about it. Whether you are "some" or "not some", I'm curious to hear what anyone who has a belief ("knows"??) either way--what makes them think that?

I, for one, have nothing but others' experiences to decide from...and it is pretty limited the amount of those I've found...so am dying to hear from anyone willing to share theirs...


***sorry flash, that's incomprehendable to english speakers, I'm sure, so what I meant was:

I'm interested to know WHY you think of yourself as "some"...as well as hearing WHY from those who do not.

***thanks for that carmody!!

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:04
Lunch break in the tropics, Aloe Vera drink, salad, cassava and beetroot smoothie.

Haven't seen snow in years, so there is some fascination.

http://i.imgur.com/twm6Ht2.gif

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:09
Maybe its not complicated at all.....

http://i.imgur.com/wsN6I5N.jpg

PurpleLama
11th February 2013, 19:11
You've got to have a real handle on the things being as they should to be steady enough to break free, to not falter in the attempt. Got to know it in your bones, its okay.

Calz
11th February 2013, 19:11
Maybe its not complicated at all.....

Nice ulli :)

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:12
Me dropping into the Here and Now thread these days....

http://i.imgur.com/aFWFmmC.gif

Flash
11th February 2013, 19:13
What if I am "some"?


...well then I wanna hear all about it. Whether you are "some" or "not some", I'm curious to hear what anyone who has a belief ("knows"??) either way--what makes them think that?

I, for one, have nothing but others' experiences to decide from...and it is pretty limited the amount of those I've found...so am dying to hear from anyone willing to share theirs...


***sorry flash, that's incomprehendable to english speakers, I'm sure, so what I meant was:

I'm interested to know WHY you think of yourself as "some"...as well as hearing WHY from those who do not.

***thanks for that carmody!!

I was taking Carmody's words and meant: what if I am "some saying the opposite" to his previous sentence : "After all, you signed on for it". So what if I believe I did not sign on for it, or worst, what if I did not sign on for it but was sent for the experience? Therefore, what if I am "some" from the previous sentences.

And I reverted to supersized French fries.

I hope it is clearer that way.

Now for you question, why you think of yourself as "some" and why the opposite from those who do not? My comment was rhetorical because I do have the same questions in mind and no real answer.

Now my feeling, i do not even know if it is a belief, cause it feels more like a feeling. I do feel like I chose for a definite purpose I do not remember (amnesia). But, even once the choice made, the modalities in which one enters into the 3D lesson or purpose are not always chosen, in fact, there is little choice. To me, choice may have been made in between now and the last incarnation, or aons ago, depending on the soul and its purpose.

I do wonder often if my choice was wrong, because this is not a gift here, even if it could have been originally. This is when I tell myself "all is right" and then wonder if this sentence is reality or a real created belief to alleviate the situation.

However, I also feel that some of us have been thrown down here with not much choice. They needed the lesson and happy or not, there you go. Universe provides. Jail time, try to get the "go out of jail" card by playing within the universal laws.

Sometimes, I do wonder if this, being thrown down here without a choice, did not happened to me and if I am not delusioned by feeling that I chose.

I wish to hear from others as well.

Now I also need to go to work to put the French fries on the table :p

Carmody
11th February 2013, 19:15
Lunch break in the tropics, Aloe Vera drink, salad, cassava and beetroot smoothie.

Haven't seen snow in years, so there is some fascination.

http://i.imgur.com/twm6Ht2.gif

That was actually synthetic foam they sprayed as a fine mist. Then they finished sealing off the area in a big white dome (just past the sightline in the animation)..and then they slowly turned up the heat. Stanly Kubrick did it in high school with the help/financing of SRI, back in 1945. It had been stolen out of secret archives by Anonymous..and had been sent to wikileaks and then recently put on yootoob, which is where this came from.

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:16
and this one really triggered feelings I've had all of my sheltered life:

http://i.imgur.com/mpCGVM2.jpg

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:20
Lunch break in the tropics, Aloe Vera drink, salad, cassava and beetroot smoothie.

Haven't seen snow in years, so there is some fascination.

http://i.imgur.com/twm6Ht2.gif

That was actually synthetic foam they sprayed as a fine mist. Then they finished sealing off the area in a big white dome (just past the sightline in the animation)..and then they slowly turned up the heat. Stanly Kubrick did it in high school with the help/financing of SRI, back in 1945. It had been stolen out of secret archives by Anonymous..and had been sent to wikileaks and then recently put on yootoob, which is where this came from.

Wow. And I thought maybe they had put too much yeast in my bread maker....

ulli
11th February 2013, 19:28
And a German calendar predicted the Pope's resignation correctly, to the day.

Holy, straw bag, tomorrow I'm resigning.....

http://i.imgur.com/DFNIR9k.jpg

Carmody
11th February 2013, 19:30
What if I am "some"?


...well then I wanna hear all about it. Whether you are "some" or "not some", I'm curious to hear what anyone who has a belief ("knows"??) either way--what makes them think that?

I, for one, have nothing but others' experiences to decide from...and it is pretty limited the amount of those I've found...so am dying to hear from anyone willing to share theirs...


***sorry flash, that's incomprehendable to english speakers, I'm sure, so what I meant was:

I'm interested to know WHY you think of yourself as "some"...as well as hearing WHY from those who do not.

***thanks for that carmody!!

I was taking Carmody's words and meant: what if I am "some saying the opposite" to his previous sentence : "After all, you signed on for it". So what if I believe I did not sign on for it, or worst, what if I did not sign on for it but was sent for the experience? Therefore, what if I am "some" from the previous sentences.

And I reverted to supersized French fries.

I hope it is clearer that way.

Now for you question, why you think of yourself as "some" and why the opposite from those who do not? My comment was rhetorical because I do have the same questions in mind and no real answer.

Now my feeling, i do not even know if it is a belief, cause it feels more like a feeling. I do feel like I chose for a definite purpose I do not remember (amnesia). But, even once the choice made, the modalities in which one enters into the 3D lesson or purpose are not always chosen, in fact, there is little choice. To me, choice may have been made in between now and the last incarnation, or aons ago, depending on the soul and its purpose.

I do wonder often if my choice was wrong, because this is not a gift here, even if it could have been originally. This is when I tell myself "all is right" and then wonder if this is reality or a real created belief to alleviate the situation.

However, I also feel that some of us have been thrown down here with not much choice. They needed the lesson and happy or not, there you go. Universe provides. Jail time, try to get the "go out of jail" card by playing within the universal laws.

Sometimes, I do wonder if this, being thrown down here without a choice, did not happened to me and if I am not delusioned by feeling that I chose.

I wish to hear from others as well.

Now I also need to go to work to put the French fries on the table :p

Michael newton talks about that. Maybe a young 'problem' dimensional, those who are disturbing the peacefulness in the local dimensional area.

That the local leaders or whomever, approach them and say, "Hey, kid, yeah you, little Mr/Ms piss and vinegar, you there, ADD kid....I got this thing here you might want to look at.... check out this cool place in this pamphlet! Would you like to go there?

"OK, Here's your bus ticket, $50, and a roll of toilet paper. Off you go now! bye!"

Yells at retreating bus, "Don't spend it all on dope!" (shakes head, walks away)

Calz
11th February 2013, 19:34
And a German calendar predicted the Pope's resignation correctly, to the day.



1st resignation since what ... about 1294 or some such???

Hmmm ... combined with the other "prophecy" gets to be a bit on the "creepy" side does it not???

meeradas
11th February 2013, 19:40
1st resignation since what ... about 1294 or some such???

Hmmm ... combined with the other "prophecy" gets to be a bit on the "creepy" side does it not???

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55666-Pope-Benedict-Leaves-Papacy-28th-February-2013&p=634229&viewfull=1#post634229

Flash
11th February 2013, 20:26
What if I am "some"?


...well then I wanna hear all about it. Whether you are "some" or "not some", I'm curious to hear what anyone who has a belief ("knows"??) either way--what makes them think that?

I, for one, have nothing but others' experiences to decide from...and it is pretty limited the amount of those I've found...so am dying to hear from anyone willing to share theirs...


***sorry flash, that's incomprehendable to english speakers, I'm sure, so what I meant was:

I'm interested to know WHY you think of yourself as "some"...as well as hearing WHY from those who do not.

***thanks for that carmody!!

I was taking Carmody's words and meant: what if I am "some saying the opposite" to his previous sentence : "After all, you signed on for it". So what if I believe I did not sign on for it, or worst, what if I did not sign on for it but was sent for the experience? Therefore, what if I am "some" from the previous sentences.

And I reverted to supersized French fries.

I hope it is clearer that way.

Now for you question, why you think of yourself as "some" and why the opposite from those who do not? My comment was rhetorical because I do have the same questions in mind and no real answer.

Now my feeling, i do not even know if it is a belief, cause it feels more like a feeling. I do feel like I chose for a definite purpose I do not remember (amnesia). But, even once the choice made, the modalities in which one enters into the 3D lesson or purpose are not always chosen, in fact, there is little choice. To me, choice may have been made in between now and the last incarnation, or aons ago, depending on the soul and its purpose.

I do wonder often if my choice was wrong, because this is not a gift here, even if it could have been originally. This is when I tell myself "all is right" and then wonder if this is reality or a real created belief to alleviate the situation.

However, I also feel that some of us have been thrown down here with not much choice. They needed the lesson and happy or not, there you go. Universe provides. Jail time, try to get the "go out of jail" card by playing within the universal laws.

Sometimes, I do wonder if this, being thrown down here without a choice, did not happened to me and if I am not delusioned by feeling that I chose.

I wish to hear from others as well.

Now I also need to go to work to put the French fries on the table :p

Michael newton talks about that. Maybe a young 'problem' dimensional, those who are disturbing the peacefulness in the local dimensional area.

That the local leaders or whomever, approach them and say, "Hey, kid, yeah you, little Mr/Ms piss and vinegar, you there, ADD kid....I got this thing here you might want to look at.... check out this cool place in this pamphlet! Would you like to go there?

"OK, Here's your bus ticket, $50, and a roll of toilet paper. Off you go now! bye!"

Yells at retreating bus, "Don't spend it all on dope!" (shakes head, walks away)

lol, reminiscernt of something I heard when I was a teenager (no, not told to me, although weed was good) and something I heard lately for today's teenagers.,

CD7
11th February 2013, 20:56
Yes Flash--

Sometimes, I do wonder if this, being thrown down here without a choice, did not happened to me and if I am not delusioned by feeling that I chose.



I wonder too...if there was a choice? I would like to remember/know tht i made a choice. I really would rather it not b a situation tht so and so said so and i just take this information verbatim---which ironically this word sounds like ver- bait- him..haha

Yup interesting topic for me at the moment...

Ernie Nemeth
11th February 2013, 21:34
Should it be that easy, or are we learning to understand what it is like to have difficulties in these areas?

My take is: if it were that easy, I wouldn't be here. I'd be back at the Source watching the reruns on dimensional TV, pining for the good old days of trials and tribulations I could go and bust up. Ya, I'm programmed for reality busting. This has been one of the toughest assignments I've ever taken on. That's why I got me a really good Avatar for this time around - healthy, strong, intelligent, sensitive and super-connected to Source. Without that I'd have no chance. Sheesh, as it is I almost gave up a while back...

astrid
11th February 2013, 21:40
Thanks carmody
Been using more and more
Crystals of late , they were never really my
thing but suddenly they are
So fascinating reading the mechanisms at play
Also reading a book of Edgar caycee on color and
stones , some very interesting concepts he speaks of
One being that color is the spiritualisarion of tone and sounds
Very very thought provoking

Never been much for channeled material myself
I like to go direct and get my own guidance
But I am fascinated by caycees life and work right
now so I guess there are things in it for me to know

Love to all

1inMany
11th February 2013, 21:42
You've got to have a real handle on the things being as they should to be steady enough to break free, to not falter in the attempt. Got to know it in your bones, its okay.

Know what is okay?

That trauma and pain are everywhere? That someone or something, or no one or nothing, is behind every single event in current times? That someone somewhere has this whole world under control, has everything well in hand, which doesn't seem to be the case? Or that possibly the Universe needs catalysts to learn-and if this is the case, watching all this pain and trauma and heartbreak ... is okay (which seems a bit twisted from where I sit)? Or that I am a spiritual being having a physical existence in which finding one iota of good is getting nearly impossible? I run, not walk, to Avalon every day to find something from eaglespirit, or maybe Ernie, or maybe Marianne's juice or Nora's warm fire, or Ulli's pics of balance or humor, or really any number of loving people who seem to be maintaining okay, because it isn't out my window...anywhere.

It doesn't feel like any of this is okay.

And I try to think, It's Okay. It's Okay. It's Okay. Until I realize, I'm really not sure which part of all this is Okay.

Sorry, having a little bit of a down day.

skippy
11th February 2013, 21:47
a hug from a friend

http://onebigphoto.com/uploads/2012/03/a-hug-from-a-friend.jpg

ulli
11th February 2013, 21:58
You've got to have a real handle on the things being as they should to be steady enough to break free, to not falter in the attempt. Got to know it in your bones, its okay.

Know what is okay?

That trauma and pain are everywhere? That someone or something, or no one or nothing, is behind every single event in current times? That someone somewhere has this whole world under control, has everything well in hand, which doesn't seem to be the case? Or that possibly the Universe needs catalysts to learn-and if this is the case, watching all this pain and trauma and heartbreak ... is okay (which seems a bit twisted from where I sit)? Or that I am a spiritual being having a physical existence in which finding one iota of good is getting nearly impossible? I run, not walk, to Avalon every day to find something from eaglespirit, or maybe Ernie, or maybe Marianne's juice or Nora's warm fire, or Ulli's pics of balance or humor, or really any number of loving people who seem to be maintaining okay, because it isn't out my window...anywhere.

It doesn't feel like any of this is okay.

And I try to think, It's Okay. It's Okay. It's Okay. Until I realize, I'm really not sure which part of all this is Okay.

Sorry, having a little bit of a down day.

In your list of positive reports you forgot to mention your own...
Which over the last few months have been considerable in number and
at times magnificent in scope.
Some of those moments have been glorious, and there will be more.

ulli
11th February 2013, 22:05
Yes Flash--

Sometimes, I do wonder if this, being thrown down here without a choice, did not happened to me and if I am not delusioned by feeling that I chose.



I wonder too...if there was a choice? I would like to remember/know tht i made a choice. I really would rather it not b a situation tht so and so said so and i just take this information verbatim---which ironically this word sounds like ver- bait- him..haha

Yup interesting topic for me at the moment...

Could it be that in the past there was no choice, but from here on there will be?
That it's true that humanity is in the transition between adolescence and maturity,
and therefore is given the keys to greater mobility?

All that is needed is that the individual accepts personal responsibility for all their deeds.
Become masters of their destiny and choose where they WISH to be.
Make plans, work diligently towards them,
and quit all thoughts of victimhood.

gripreaper
11th February 2013, 22:58
Wow, there are 2400 people on Avalon right now, 200 Avalonian's and over 2000 guests, ten times more guests than regulars. 400 of them are on jagman's thread about "Peter the Roman". I just find this interesting and somewhat telling.

If you google "Peter the Roman", Avalon forum comes up as the number 6 choice on the front page.

ulli
11th February 2013, 23:01
The ratio is nearly always ten to one...mostly 150 to 1500.... But given the cold weather in the US, plus the resignation of the
Pope...an increase like that would be normal I suppose.

astrid
11th February 2013, 23:18
For the Astro buffs, another way of looking at aspects.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/declinations.html

20350

"How Do I Use The Declination Graph?

The Declination Graph is another way of looking at aspects. To use this graph, just find the planet(s) you are interested in and look at their positions in the graph.

When you see planets that are at the same degree (either up or down), they are said to be Parallel. If they are at the same degree but one above and the other below the middle line (celestial equator), that is called a Contra Parallel.

These aspects are similar to the conjunction and the opposition aspect.

Parallels exist when there is a conjunction. The meaning will be determined by the planets involved and the houses and signs that they are in. But when two planets are conjunct and parallel, that means they share the same celestial latitude as well as degree.

Contra-Parallel exist when there is an opposition; like the Parallel, it will depend on the planets and their house positions. When two planets are opposed and parallel, that means they share the same celestial latitude, as well as opposing degrees.

There is a special time when the planet is at Zero. This is when they are neither up or down from the celestial equator (the middle line in the graph). This is a time when the planet is going to be strong and the principles of that planet will be emphasized. "


( posted to me by an astro friend of mine, so i thought i would share it here also)

Kiforall
11th February 2013, 23:45
Here and Now I'd like to thank Carmody for introducing me to Michael Newton, I've just watched the You Tube interviews on Past Life Therapy and it mirrors EVERYTHING my 9yr old son told me last year which lead me to my spiritual awakening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDT58Q6Zxo&list=UU0EO34a6lDzqrocgklRy_Fg

It's nice to know and not just believe.

Zoe :hug:

ulli
12th February 2013, 00:07
Had some more thoughts on the topic of whether we choose before coming here....and how much to remember...

If life is this eternal journey then what point is there in retaining all memories? It just can't be computed.
Also, if intuition is another factor that needs developing, what point is there in holding all those memories?
As it is...I remember far too much crap from this life, most of which has no bearing on my present condition.
Creating wellness, happiness, beauty...within one's scope...those are the things that matter to me.
Being of service as the need arises...denouncing corruption, developing virtues, assisting and educating...
Those are the things that matter to me...and the next generation can have some foundations laid by ours
that they can then build upon.

WhiteFeather
12th February 2013, 00:41
Evening Peeps hope all is well and safe, been trudging through this thread. If you miss a day or two, its like getting triple homework assignments, you know what i mean. Missing Modwiz and Chinaski right's about now. Although Rad is on the TOT's forum. Its just not the same..... Wish he was here.....

Listening to some Native flute by Mary Youngblood, seems to be a great interest of mine lately...totally great for grounding and meditating....enjoy my Kolas ;)

PS - Hope all is well Reilly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPGBpFltqtE

astrid
12th February 2013, 00:57
This is doing the "rounds"
no clue as to if its true or not..

20354

"Lightening strikes St Peter's on day the Pope announces resignation"

will dig some more on this..

Kiforall
12th February 2013, 01:00
This is doing the "rounds"
no clue as to if its true or not..

20354

"Lightening strikes St Peter's on day the Pope announces resignation"

will dig some more on this..

Rocky on his rounds again? I wonder ;)

astrid
12th February 2013, 01:11
20357

wow.. i have to research this one,
never heard of these stones before.

"South of central Romania these stone formations with alien features lie dormant, until it begins to rain. As soon as the last drops of water fall, they resume their process of multiplication. Small oval or round blain-like forms appear on the upper crusts of the previous year stones."


Which makes you wonder, if its somehow possible to grow stone structures,
buidings, etc.. if the stones are watered the right way, etc.
Fascinating idea, organic housing.

CD7
12th February 2013, 01:57
Had some more thoughts on the topic of whether we choose before coming here....and how much to remember...

If life is this eternal journey then what point is there in retaining all memories? It just can't be computed.
Also, if intuition is another factor that needs developing, what point is there in holding all those memories?
As it is...I remember far too much crap from this life, most of which has no bearing on my present condition.
Creating wellness, happiness, beauty...within one's scope...those are the things that matter to me.
Being of service as the need arises...denouncing corruption, developing virtues, assisting and educating...
Those are the things that matter to me...and the next generation can have some foundations laid by ours
that they can then build upon.

This is some chunky meat to chew on and challenging to communicate...have not had much luck on here (forum) getting others involved in a somewht different angle of discussion in this arena...

The challenges come from many of us having different SET format/idea of wht and who we are...how we came to be...
Whatever our "ideas" are they have been cultivated/groomed for most of our lives making it challenging to ERASE all notions /frameworks of everything weve been told, taught of what we SHOULD think we are NEVER having this knowing ON OUR VERY OWN--exclusively Total recall not of memories persay, but of self, the being behind the shows...

Ok whew! Now
If life is this eternal journey then what point is there in retaining all memories? It just can't be computed

When u state this..its stating wht some may believe or not about our existence...wht some of us are told..but do we "know" this on our own without it having been told, this is how u should see yourself?...


Also, if intuition is another factor that needs developing, what point is there in holding all those memories?

When i discuss this subject, i am looking at this from an all inclusive existence where we are aware of the "blueprint" our TRAJECTORY...now someone will say you numbnut your not supposed to know "its all apart of the plan" ---been told this many times.

Well i dont "know" this for certain and have no memory tht this is so? So in these moments all im searching for is everything and anything to be KNOWN by self...remembered by self exclusively. Doing this in no way takes away from experiencing beauty, creating, living in the moment, being an observer

My perspective comes from being an artist, designing creations tht come to life after being conceived in the mind over time first. The more you practice envisioning your creation the more precise/ detailed it can become. So where am i going with this?

We come into this existence with no blueprint..plan..vision of what we are creating. Wandering along blind, working for someone else, live in a box, work in a box then die in a box. Apparently we have been doing this for eons as well as QUESTIONING human existence? I suppose im getting tired of the.."its meant to be this way" realizing all in all im being TOLD everything i should think feel know as well as ALL OF US.


and the next generation can have some foundations laid by ours
that they can then build upon.


It is my vision tht any next generation creates there own foundations tht build paradise on earth

*** I really appreciate your feedback here*** I do not want to come of as "this is the way it is" i am truly trying to get feedback from different angles in regards to this subject

ulli
12th February 2013, 02:28
Had some more thoughts on the topic of whether we choose before coming here....and how much to remember...

If life is this eternal journey then what point is there in retaining all memories? It just can't be computed.
Also, if intuition is another factor that needs developing, what point is there in holding all those memories?
As it is...I remember far too much crap from this life, most of which has no bearing on my present condition.
Creating wellness, happiness, beauty...within one's scope...those are the things that matter to me.
Being of service as the need arises...denouncing corruption, developing virtues, assisting and educating...
Those are the things that matter to me...and the next generation can have some foundations laid by ours
that they can then build upon.

This is some chunky meat to chew on and challenging to communicate...have not had much luck on here (forum) getting others involved in a somewht different angle of discussion in this arena...

The challenges come from many of us having different SET format/idea of wht and who we are...how we came to be...
Whatever our "ideas" are they have been cultivated/groomed for most of our lives making it challenging to ERASE all notions /frameworks of everything weve been told, taught of what we SHOULD think we are NEVER having this knowing ON OUR VERY OWN--exclusively Total recall not of memories persay, but of self, the being behind the shows...

Ok whew! Now
If life is this eternal journey then what point is there in retaining all memories? It just can't be computed

When u state this..its stating wht some may believe or not about our existence...wht some of us are told..but do we "know" this on our own without it having been told, this is how u should see yourself?...


Also, if intuition is another factor that needs developing, what point is there in holding all those memories?

When i discuss this subject, i am looking at this from an all inclusive existence where we are aware of the "blueprint" our TRAJECTORY...now someone will say you numbnut your not supposed to know "its all apart of the plan" ---been told this many times.

Well i dont "know" this for certain and have no memory tht this is so? So in these moments all im searching for is everything and anything to be KNOWN by self...remembered by self exclusively. Doing this in no way takes away from experiencing beauty, creating, living in the moment, being an observer

My perspective comes from being an artist, designing creations tht come to life after being conceived in the mind over time first. The more you practice envisioning your creation the more precise/ detailed it can become. So where am i going with this?

We come into this existence with no blueprint..plan..vision of what we are creating. Wandering along blind, working for someone else, live in a box, work in a box then die in a box. Apparently we have been doing this for eons as well as QUESTIONING human existence? I suppose im getting tired of the.."its meant to be this way" realizing all in all im being TOLD everything i should think feel know as well as ALL OF US.


and the next generation can have some foundations laid by ours
that they can then build upon.


It is my vision tht any next generation creates there own foundations tht build paradise on earth

*** I really appreciate your feedback here*** I do not want to come of as "this is the way it is" i am truly trying to get feedback from different angles in regards to this subject


I would never want to impose any "this is the way it is" either.
Just quietly musing here and if anyone else wants to run with this ball, they are welcome.
Everyone comes here (this life, this planet) with different capacities.
So self knowledge to me is paramount. Knowing one's talents as well as limitations.
No illusions, nor hang-ups.
Each time I changed country or culture I had to get myself reoriented....
and leave old habits, customs and beliefs behind.
Start from scratch- language, currency, traffic rules.
Each decade of life held new challenges as well...more uprooting there.
Memories interfere, as they carry the possibility of prejudice.
So now it's all mostly a blur, unless I allow myself to reminis, as a self indulgence, sortof.

Hey, just heard about a study from the University of Leeds...green tea and red wine prevent
Alzheimer's.
Those are the main concerns at my age...as well as
'did I do all I could about beating that drum re system change?'
Because the one thing I did learn quite a bit about is community development...
And how to balance the need for equal rights with the need for hierarchical structures, based on merit,
not blood lines nor purchasing power.

Ernie Nemeth
12th February 2013, 03:07
A quick observation and the tweaking of a memory that eventually lead me to Project Camelot and then Avalon.

Every time I hear Max Igen I feel like I know the guy from somewhere. Last night the memory clicked. I'm pretty sure he is the one that made a documentary in about 207 parts, each around ten minutes long, called something like The Illuminati or some such. I just stumbled across it while checking out vids on youtube. I'd never heard about any of those topics then, or almost none of them. I thought at first it was a ruse, a joke but as the videos continued I changed my mind. I caught up on the first fifty or so videos and then eagerly awaited every installment thereafter. I became convinced that by the end of the vids the guy would break open the conspiracy and single-handedly change the world - but no such luck. Then he just stopped. I never heard his voice again and he was annonymous throughout the series. I forget the posters handle now.

Does that ring any bells for anyone? Or am I way behind the curve again?

Playdo of Ataraxas
12th February 2013, 03:45
Hey Marianne, all is well with us. Farther north we didn't get the storm cells that developed to the south around PL.

I hope all is well with everyone. I can tell the spring is beginning here. I got a head cold developing, I have sneezed at least 100 times today, and my nose is dripping like a leaky faucet. And all this started like somebody turned on a switch just this morning.

It's been interesting musing about Ratzinger's resignation. I woke up this morning, clicked on the radio and had a premonition about it, and then immediately the report followed announcing his resignation. An interesting deja vu.


Reilly, I'm so glad to hear you confirm that you and your family are okay.

What about Playdo?

DeDukshyn
12th February 2013, 04:02
Evening Peeps hope all is well and safe, been trudging through this thread. If you miss a day or two, its like getting triple homework assignments, you know what i mean. Missing Modwiz and Chinaski right's about now. Although Rad is on the TOT's forum. Its just not the same..... Wish he was here.....

Listening to some Native flute by Mary Youngblood, seems to be a great interest of mine lately...totally great for grounding and meditating....enjoy my Kolas ;)

PS - Hope all is well Reilly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPGBpFltqtE

I am also eagerly awaiting Modwiz' and Chinaski's return to Avalon ... ;)

DeDukshyn
12th February 2013, 04:06
This is doing the "rounds"
no clue as to if its true or not..

20354

"Lightening strikes St Peter's on day the Pope announces resignation"

will dig some more on this..

Lightning often strikes any building of height, where it is the highest point in a given vicinity. Interesting coincidence, but not all that rare an event ... The CN tower in Toronto gets struck 75+ per year, for example.

Carmody
12th February 2013, 04:10
Let's ruin raspberry. yes, why not.

Castoreum

WHAT IT IS: Beaver anal gland juice. Really. Beavers combine it with their urine to mark their territory.

FOUND IN: Vanilla or raspberry flavoring in processed foods, labeled only as “natural flavoring.”

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: It’s beaver anal gland juice.

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/menshealth/12-scariest-things-your-food

Playdo of Ataraxas
12th February 2013, 04:14
Wow. I've always liked beavers...... but that's taking it too far.

Marianne
12th February 2013, 04:24
Let's ruin raspberry. yes, why not.

Castoreum

WHAT IT IS: Beaver anal gland juice. Really. Beavers combine it with their urine to mark their territory.

FOUND IN: Vanilla or raspberry flavoring in processed foods, labeled only as “natural flavoring.”

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: It’s beaver anal gland juice.

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/menshealth/12-scariest-things-your-food

Carmody, thanks. My ice cream demon is behind me now.

BTW, snopes agrees with you. http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/castoreum.asp.

Here's a more wishy-washy perspective. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=74953

Carmody
12th February 2013, 04:24
Yes, I like raspberry just fine. I don't need beavers to rub them on their butt before I eat them.

DeDukshyn
12th February 2013, 04:31
Wow. I've always liked beavers...... but that's taking it too far.

I was about to say it sounded sexy ... that's taking it too far ... ;)

astrid
12th February 2013, 04:33
And someone, somewhere, sometime
would have had to have partook in sampling
of said part of Beaver anatomy to discover that it did
indeed taste like Raspberry

Some redneck humor in there somewhere...

Carmody
12th February 2013, 04:42
Saw and old work compatriot the other day. Hadn't seen him in about 2-3 years. I used to work with him about a decade ago. I'd run into him every few years, and we'd speak for a few minutes. He had a brain back in that time a decade ago. Uneducated drop out, broken home, etc...but if you spoke with him, he'd be able to say something coherent back.

The kind of things that said, no sophistication, but the rudiments for human thought were there. He had the critical part, that he could have obtained the rest. That he was prone to alcoholism and narcotics, as a substitute for life. That one could see the whole thing creeping up, inside of him. Strengthening, tearing down, taking over. Bit by bit.

When I saw him this time, he was speaking with someone, and did not see me. I avoided him, due to what I saw. His face was distorted and one eye was off. it looked almost as if krokidil had gotten a hold of him. But I suspect a combination of crack and meth. Like there was no-one home anymore. It's always sad to see. The change was extreme.

Carmody
12th February 2013, 04:49
Origins: Castoreum (or castor, not to be confused with the oil of a castor bean) is a yellowish, unctuous substance with a strong, penetrating odor, secreted by beavers from castor sacs located in skin cavities between the pelvis and the base of the tail. Male beavers spray a mixture of castoreum and urine when scent-marking their territory. Castoreum is used in the perfume-making industry, and processed forms of castoreum are also used as food additives; in the latter case primarily as enhancers of strawberry and raspberry flavorings used in products such as iced tea, ice cream, gelatin, candy, fruit-flavored drinks, and yogurt. Castoreum as a food additive is classified by the Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS).

~~~

Great. I just bought 8 raspberry "fruit bottom" yogurts. I'll eat them..maybe. With natural and artificial flavoring!

Calz
12th February 2013, 04:50
This is doing the "rounds"
no clue as to if its true or not..

20354

"Lightening strikes St Peter's on day the Pope announces resignation"

will dig some more on this..

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/50776091/#50776091

Carmody
12th February 2013, 04:55
This is doing the "rounds"
no clue as to if its true or not..

20354

"Lightening strikes St Peter's on day the Pope announces resignation"

will dig some more on this..

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/50776091/#50776091

We could give the Pope a raspberry.....

astrid
12th February 2013, 05:45
I'm sure he already has plenty,
probably even a special papal closet designated for raspberries..

kikidoll
12th February 2013, 07:24
oh gosh, I am so distressed. Did anyone read the manifesto supposedly written by Dorner, the cop who has vowed to take vengeance till he gets his name back? This is paraphrased obviously. I'm sure he has a legitimate complaint but to take it out by taking lives I don't agree with. But the most distressing thing of all is that his manifesto has been hijacked and twisted into something entirely different to support gun control and support weapons bans, quoting Feinstein and everything. If you read this manifesto about half way down, the entire tenor changes, the words change, the sentence structure changes . . . and the message changes to this:

" If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bull**** because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to "add to cart". All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL's. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR's, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I'm not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a f------ silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. "Gun control is no longer debatable, it's not a conversation, its a moral mandate."

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche' and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!"

I had to stop reading at this point because I was about to throw up.

ulli
12th February 2013, 11:49
There are 110 users browsing this thread right now.
Wondering if what brought them all here was googling "beaver urine in raspberry flavored yoghurt",
or the rogue cop's "manifesto" above.
Also wondering what is happening to our pristine Village....

meeradas
12th February 2013, 12:14
Shall be my last entry on the "Papal downstep" [rather "papal dubstep"]:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44989-Odd-music-thread-unclassifiable-strange-beautiful-music-goes-here&p=634553&viewfull=1#post634553

:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:

1inMany
12th February 2013, 12:22
Good Morning,

http://www.goodmorningwishes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/561999_531978470149128_1778814532_n.gif

Thank you.

Much Love,

Flash
12th February 2013, 12:37
Let's ruin raspberry. yes, why not.

Castoreum

WHAT IT IS: Beaver anal gland juice. Really. Beavers combine it with their urine to mark their territory.

FOUND IN: Vanilla or raspberry flavoring in processed foods, labeled only as “natural flavoring.”

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: It’s beaver anal gland juice.

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/menshealth/12-scariest-things-your-food

Oh my, this is it, a whole lot of vanilla flavor food will get me having a head and stomach spin.

Chester
12th February 2013, 12:38
...and sometimes family needs to be with a family member in need... I am back in Texas now and perhaps to stay for awhile - Ulli, I should be back some day - Hold the fort! Chester

EDIT: Darn, I was too slow - Flash snuck in between! Howdy Flash - we are now 50% closer!

meeradas
12th February 2013, 12:44
Hmm...

http://www.compassnewspaper.org/index.php/news/nigeria-today/11529-sheep-delivers-human-foetus-in-minna

Dr. Joseph has sth on it: http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/02/one-for-the-transhumanist-scrapbook-a-pregnant-ewe-in-nigeria-delivers-something/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GizaDeathStar+%28Giza+Death+Star%29

ulli
12th February 2013, 12:48
Shall be my last entry on the "Papal downstep" [rather "papal dubstep"]:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44989-Odd-music-thread-unclassifiable-strange-beautiful-music-goes-here&p=634553&viewfull=1#post634553

:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:

As far as the downfall of the papacy goes I'd rather stick with a beaver butt-rubbed raspberry.

meeradas
12th February 2013, 12:52
As far as the downfall of the papacy goes I'd rather stick with a beaver butt-rubbed raspberry.

Nice way of saying it.

Btw:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/534815_560703933940589_1500160241_n.jpg

Calz
12th February 2013, 13:16
As far as the downfall of the papacy goes I'd rather stick with a beaver butt-rubbed raspberry.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d0YPW7Wxb7o/TC-XvEp21WI/AAAAAAAABEg/K4hO593PI4w/s400/1.jpg

http://991.com/newGallery/Prince-Raspberry-Beret--185933.jpg

ulli
12th February 2013, 13:23
...and sometimes family needs to be with a family member in need... I am back in Texas now and perhaps to stay for awhile - Ulli, I should be back some day - Hold the fort! Chester

EDIT: Darn, I was too slow - Flash snuck in between! Howdy Flash - we are now 50% closer!

I see you finally found yourself a fitting avatar. Now we know what caused that resignation.
And there I was, giving Rocky the credit....

yukondiva
12th February 2013, 13:46
I dont know where you guys are getting your raspberries but I know where mine come from, the bush outside my house, so glad.

ulli
12th February 2013, 14:13
This is my favorite pope resignation humor...
What a job! I would have quit, too.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55666-Pope-Benedict-Leaves-Papacy-28th-February-2013&p=634579&viewfull=1#post634579

Chester
12th February 2013, 14:14
...and sometimes family needs to be with a family member in need... I am back in Texas now and perhaps to stay for awhile - Ulli, I should be back some day - Hold the fort! Chester

EDIT: Darn, I was too slow - Flash snuck in between! Howdy Flash - we are now 50% closer!

I see you finally found yourself a fitting avatar. Now we know what caused that resignation.
And there I was, giving Rocky the credit....

no further comment (Oooops... is that a comment?) haha

Chester
12th February 2013, 14:23
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55666-Pope-Benedict-Leaves-Papacy-28th-February-2013&p=634579&viewfull=1#post634579

Dear witchy1

I think Pope Benedict XVI is gracefully stepping aside for the clear popes - all of us.

I also suspect he is joining us and may all along have been one of us (but my problem is that I see the bright side of everyone).

Playdo of Ataraxas
12th February 2013, 15:18
Hey Meeradas, back at you:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44989-Odd-music-thread-unclassifiable-strange-beautiful-music-goes-here&p=634688&viewfull=1#post634688


Shall be my last entry on the "Papal downstep" [rather "papal dubstep"]:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44989-Odd-music-thread-unclassifiable-strange-beautiful-music-goes-here&p=634553&viewfull=1#post634553

:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:

Playdo of Ataraxas
12th February 2013, 15:26
Ha!!! That's rich!



As far as the downfall of the papacy goes I'd rather stick with a beaver butt-rubbed raspberry.

Nice way of saying it.

Btw:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/534815_560703933940589_1500160241_n.jpg

Ernie Nemeth
12th February 2013, 15:59
Booted up my computer this morning and was greeted by two flags, your anti-virus has been turned off and Microsoft web browsing security is disabled!

Think I've been hacked? Funny thing is, I know I'm monitored because every night I turn my PC off there is always at least one "update" that has to be loaded before my computer needs to turn off.

So before I totally ignore this and turn my back on the obvious evil of it with a snort and a laugh, I just want to put the spies and Nazis on alert. Your time is almost up! You cannot scare me and I will not relent. And when I am fully in my power I will come for you!

spiritwind
12th February 2013, 17:13
Thanks for the morning laughs (Ulli I needed that). Well, while everyone's been slaving away through the night trying to solve the worlds problems I've been making soup for ya all. I know, it's just a picture but wish there was some way I could at least let you smell it.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/65935_4268498873982_1837755727_n.jpg

I wish I could have got a picture of my chicken Cleo this morning when she jumped up on my goat Cookie's back to try and grab the apple bites I was giving her but alas, it's rarely handy when you need it. They do provide hours of entertainment. I guess you'll have to use your imagination there.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/556336_4268501434046_1266437582_n.jpg

Carmody
12th February 2013, 17:28
I'm eating my fruit bottom raspberry yogurt, complete.. with a dash of beaver anal gland secretions. Just a dab'll do ya....

Playdo of Ataraxas
12th February 2013, 17:40
It sounds like you concocted that mixture at the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen:

ptoN-5QE0Lw

Ernie Nemeth
12th February 2013, 17:51
Hope all the beaver butt juice doesn't bung up your own...hehe

donk
12th February 2013, 19:58
1GDU6ns2mRM

meeradas
12th February 2013, 20:27
V90Nkmyj5s0

this would have normally gone into my "odd music thread (projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44989-Odd-music-thread-unclassifiable-strange-beautiful-music-goes-here/page5)", but as i made a promise there...
all of you here and now have to 'suffer' it :biggrin1: [it's quite beautiful, apart from the visual]

WhiteFeather
12th February 2013, 23:00
As far as the downfall of the papacy goes I'd rather stick with a beaver butt-rubbed raspberry.

Nice way of saying it.

Btw:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/534815_560703933940589_1500160241_n.jpg

Evening Peeps, If i may Chime in on the God and Papal resignation thingy. Here's some classic George Carlin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_tr_k59O6s

kikidoll
12th February 2013, 23:55
oh gosh, I am so distressed. Did anyone read the manifesto supposedly written by Dorner, the cop who has vowed to take vengeance till he gets his name back? This is paraphrased obviously. I'm sure he has a legitimate complaint but to take it out by taking lives I don't agree with. But the most distressing thing of all is that his manifesto has been hijacked and twisted into something entirely different to support gun control and support weapons bans, quoting Feinstein and everything. If you read this manifesto about half way down, the entire tenor changes, the words change, the sentence structure changes . . . and the message changes to this:

" If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bull**** because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to "add to cart". All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL's. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR's, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I'm not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a f------ silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. "Gun control is no longer debatable, it's not a conversation, its a moral mandate."

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche' and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!"

I had to stop reading at this point because I was about to throw up.

I believe this is the link to the original manifesto before it was hijacked.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/police.pdf

ulli
13th February 2013, 01:02
Make of this what you will:

http://i.imgur.com/LbjtliS.gif

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Haha......

http://i.imgur.com/HTlSJ3c.jpg

ulli
13th February 2013, 01:19
speaking of smart dogs:

http://i.imgur.com/WzzPpE0.gif

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 01:28
9lIdymq0DZc

ulli
13th February 2013, 01:45
will I ever forget those beavers and butts now?


http://i.imgur.com/BWYZL3u.jpg

astrid
13th February 2013, 01:49
Stories now staring to come in about the Pope resigning to avoid
getting arrested, hardly surprising.

Although I would suspect he would be 'safer" staying put, so many abuse cases,
so many people wanting justice, i cant see him being alive for much
longer without the protection he has now.

The Universe is cleaning up, is all i can say.

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th February 2013, 01:49
Hey Donk, I really love that album. There is a really interesting story behind these unpublished songs of Woody Guthrie. "According to Bob Dylan's autobiography, Chronicles, Woody Guthrie offered his unpublished songs to Dylan, but Dylan was unable to enter the house to obtain them as Arlo Guthrie would not let him in." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mermaid_Avenue

Who knows, Dylan's path might have been altered had he been able to arrange and publish the Guthrie's material in his early career.

My favorite two tracks of the album are:

QUgwcMMAR_o

mMBvzpCLGHg


1GDU6ns2mRM

astrid
13th February 2013, 01:54
Cool we have some Billy Bragg fans in the house.

Used to listen to levi stubs tears, over and over and over.

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th February 2013, 02:02
Yea, right on Astrid. To me, the most captivating thing a performer can do is stand alone on a stage with a guitar and sing. Beauty in simplicity. Not too many can do that. That's what first attracted me to Bob Dylan. The Live '66 concert in London is still one of my favorite albums. He played one set alone and acoustic and the crowd went crazy. The next set Dylan and the Band plugged up and rocked out hard, and the crowd shared their disgust and disappointment. I love this track of Like A Rolling Stone. No video of it on Youtube (it's documented in the Pennebaker film Don't Look Back), but here's the opening of the song where someone in the audience calls him Judas, and Dylan responds, "I don't believe you. You're a liar!" Then he takes a step back, still audible, says to the Band, "Play ****ing LOUD!"

VYvyfDfM9cM

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 02:21
9lIdymq0DZc

doing a dancing dervish, you should try it, it gets rid of any fear and uncertainty, clears the mind and balances the emotions, plus it makes you sweat

5aTYp8-O96M

are you peaking in buddy?

cool tunes playdo

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 02:26
okay, last one before I drop1lWJXDG2i0A

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 02:36
I lied

av2dUXjarX4

huffin and puffin now

astrid
13th February 2013, 03:27
We have a reputation to keep up

20367

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 04:58
Had a good laugh over that one, Astrid - priceless.

Nite, nite, all.

astrid
13th February 2013, 07:39
OK universe, what now, you have to be Fing kidding me.

I AM NOT MOVING HOUSE AGAIN.

HEAR ME???

Calz
13th February 2013, 08:27
http://loscuatroojos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/isolated-house.jpg

http://dnaimg.com/2010/12/27/isolated-house/isolated-house_004.jpg

http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100224/houses_in_middle_nowhere_00.jpg

Samsara
13th February 2013, 11:37
20369
.

ulli
13th February 2013, 12:55
The state of New York might be the next victim of fracking.
So a group of artists, led by Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon and Susan Sarandon
have put together this video to raise consciousness about water contamination
caused by these gas companies' raping of the earth.

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/anti-fracking/imagine-theres-no-fracking.html

spiritwind
13th February 2013, 15:04
Carmody, I was thinking of you as I was eating my raspberry scone this morning. Actually I was thinking of beavers and butt cheeks too. How very strange.

Calz
13th February 2013, 15:08
Carmody, I was thinking of you as I was eating my raspberry scone this morning. Actually I was thinking of beavers and butt cheeks too. How very strange.

... and so it flows ...

*that* reminded me of "Beavis and Butthead" ...

... of course I have always been a little strange that way ...


http://www.kenblair.com/beavisbuttheadcards/BB-animate.gif

araucaria
13th February 2013, 15:22
Hi folks, been busy.

Some recommended reading for Vatican buffs. For a conservative view of 50 years of the papacy, try Malachi Martin’s Vatican. For a pretty definitive progressive presentation, you have Lucien Gregoire’s Murder in the Vatican.

And if you prefer fiction, Thomas Mann’s The Holy Sinner is an account of a great pope who starts out as his mother and uncle’s incestuous love child, later marries said mother, then is forced to leave her and make penance, until he is called in by Rome after two evil popes neutralize each other. :)

What we have here seems like just the opposite: the unholy saint. I am watching this play out with great interest because these guys are seeking to implement the apocalypse scenario, using Malachi's prophecies as a blueprint. The idea of the destruction of Rome leading to the church reestablishing in Jerusalem is being presented as a good operation of peacemaking. It may work out that way, but I don’t think that is the intention. I think we need to keep an eye on this situation and remember to make our own little contribution :)

ulli
13th February 2013, 15:29
There was a TV series long ago...The Thornbirds...and a book by that name, as well.
Gave good insights into the psyche of ambitious priests longing for the status of Cardinal robes.

PurpleLama
13th February 2013, 15:57
Me and a hoe and a pocket full o' seeds, yes indeedy. Taking a brief Avalon/smoke break. This summer will be walks in the woods to gather dinner, a head of broccoli here, a mess of turnips there, and so on and sow forth.

Much love to all my fellow villagers.

Calz
13th February 2013, 16:02
Anyone that can be so cool after going through a rather large swirly thingie ... hey man ... what can I say???

[hey I already said it a few pages ago ... don't make me repeat]

zenith
13th February 2013, 16:21
Had this one in my head all day, damn commercial radio.

aY_6ejm0AX0

zenith
13th February 2013, 16:24
For absent friends,

nPX3u0XJzKM

Peace

Calz
13th February 2013, 16:27
For absent friends,

nPX3u0XJzKM

Peace

absent in this case since that vid is blocked in this country (usa) ... no idea about others.

...

but thanks for the post ... anything blocked in this country must be something worth looking at???

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th February 2013, 16:38
Joseph Farrell wrote an interesting post yesterday regarding the resignation and referencing Malachi Martin. A lot of info there that I have never read before. This might interest you Araucaria.

http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/02/flash-some-thoughts-concering-the-resignation-of-ratzinger/


Hi folks, been busy.

Some recommended reading for Vatican buffs. For a conservative view of 50 years of the papacy, try Malachi Martin’s Vatican. For a pretty definitive progressive presentation, you have Lucien Gregoire’s Murder in the Vatican.

And if you prefer fiction, Thomas Mann’s The Holy Sinner is an account of a great pope who starts out as his mother and uncle’s incestuous love child, later marries said mother, then is forced to leave her and make penance, until he is called in by Rome after two evil popes neutralize each other. :)

What we have here seems like just the opposite: the unholy saint. I am watching this play out with great interest because these guys are seeking to implement the apocalypse scenario, using Malachi's prophecies as a blueprint. The idea of the destruction of Rome leading to the church reestablishing in Jerusalem is being presented as a good operation of peacemaking. It may work out that way, but I don’t think that is the intention. I think we need to keep an eye on this situation and remember to make our own little contribution :)

Carmody
13th February 2013, 16:51
http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100224/houses_in_middle_nowhere_00.jpg

That is one half of the tip of an island in the grenadines.

I believe that island set was going for......$90M? I can't quite remember. 1200 acres, the largest freehold piece available anywhere, that is out in the deep, away from everything. There are other ones available, but too close to shore and too close to potential control (reclamation) by nearby countries. That this was the last true free open unreachable piece of land on the planet.

I don't believe that the house exists, either, IIRC. the house is too big, that piece of land is much bigger. Photoshop job.

I used to spend time over at 'private islands online', and it was up for sale at the time.

Just checked, yes, that is Ronde island, in the Grenadines. Pretty darned sure of that. The Americans invaded there....right. Ok. whatever.

1inMany
13th February 2013, 17:03
A few drops of lavender for peace and calm, spiraling upward to share the love and peace in my soul, spiraling downward to bring it into my home. Candles in the four directions. Incense. And Enya, because I can hum to her music. Offerings outwardly, inwardly.

Much Love,

Calz
13th February 2013, 17:10
Love Enya ... had her first 4 cds right away.

Amazing energy and music.

Calz
13th February 2013, 17:20
http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100224/houses_in_middle_nowhere_00.jpg

That is one half of the tip of an island in the grenadines.

I believe that island set was going for......$90M? I can't quite remember. 1200 acres, the largest freehold piece available anywhere, that is out in the deep, away from everything. There are other ones available, but too close to shore and too close to potential control (reclamation) by nearby countries. That this was the last true free open unreachable piece of land on the planet.

I don't believe that the house exists, either, IIRC. the house is too big, that piece of land is much bigger. Photoshop job.

I used to spend time over at 'private islands online', and it was up for sale at the time.

Just checked, yes, that is Ronde island, in the Grenadines. Pretty darned sure of that. The Americans invaded there....right. Ok. whatever.

:lol:


Obviously I did what I often do ... take a post and translate my take on words into images.

astrid posted some intensely powerful and emotional words (for a Libra ... hey I know dat).

The images (of which you referred to one) was my interpretation of her fury and frustration when confronting "the Universe".

astrid is very powerful ... she grows always and is inspiration to all ... beyond comprehension of most on the forum.

the images simply try to portray my interpretation of facing the Universe.


I have my own versions ... but am not as open to share life's challenges ... my bad.


astrid is one of a handful of members who make it *very* worthwhile to monitor the forum on a regular basis.


IMHO

Cal

astrid
13th February 2013, 18:11
Awww Cal
Shucks :kiss:

araucaria
13th February 2013, 18:22
Joseph Farrell wrote an interesting post yesterday regarding the resignation and referencing Malachi Martin. A lot of info there that I have never read before. This might interest you Araucaria.

http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/02/flash-some-thoughts-concering-the-resignation-of-ratzinger/


Hi folks, been busy.

Some recommended reading for Vatican buffs. For a conservative view of 50 years of the papacy, try Malachi Martin’s Vatican. For a pretty definitive progressive presentation, you have Lucien Gregoire’s Murder in the Vatican.

And if you prefer fiction, Thomas Mann’s The Holy Sinner is an account of a great pope who starts out as his mother and uncle’s incestuous love child, later marries said mother, then is forced to leave her and make penance, until he is called in by Rome after two evil popes neutralize each other. :)

What we have here seems like just the opposite: the unholy saint. I am watching this play out with great interest because these guys are seeking to implement the apocalypse scenario, using Malachi's prophecies as a blueprint. The idea of the destruction of Rome leading to the church reestablishing in Jerusalem is being presented as a good operation of peacemaking. It may work out that way, but I don’t think that is the intention. I think we need to keep an eye on this situation and remember to make our own little contribution :)

Yes, thanks for that, I saw that Malachy Martin had been speaking to Joe Farrell. The thing is there comes a point where you have to choose between his take and Lucien Gregoire’s. Let me try and set out the deal as I see it.

Martin’s Vatican book is two kinds of fiction; nothing wrong with that, but let’s see what happens. It is historical interpretation up to his present time of writing, i.e. when Wojtyla (John Paul II) is wounded in c1981; after that it becomes total fiction: he has the pope die of his wounds, to be replaced by his American cardinal with experience behind the iron curtain and who is in league with the secret faction overseeing the Vatican operation.

In other words, as soon as he has a blank page and moves into prediction mode, he goes off on a huge tangent from what actually happened. Makes you wonder about everything that went before. He goes instantly off on this tangent probably because he thinks John Paul I was murdered by the Russians and so ‘was’ his successor.

Lucien Gregoire on the other hand writes basically a biography of John Paul I (with context from his predecessors) which is not fiction, more like forensic investigation. He goes into the intricate detail of how the pope was killed, and why and by whom, along with a much broader picture as well, concluding that it was a right wing coup, naturally involving the principal beneficiary: the Pole. He also explains in passing the practicalities of getting the conclave to change its mind in such a radical fashion in the space of just over a month. Briefly, Paul VI got his man elected by coming down hard on contraception with the intention of creating the need to have that policy reversed. And if the CIA’s candidate, John Paul II, got in mainly because, having also been campaigning for some time anyway, as a scrutinizer at the first election he had insider information as to who to lobby to tip the second one. He should have been ineligible.

This picture in my view gives a better understanding of what has been going on ever since. Things have got back to normal after the turbulent sixties and seventies.


To sum up: I like Joe Farrell, but I guess I don't agree with some of his politics? :)

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th February 2013, 18:29
Thanks for the post Araucaria. I'll have to follow-up with Gregoire. Until now, I have never heard of him. It is an extremely intriguing topic, and it looks like it will only get much more intriguing in the next couple of months. Do you have any predictions what might occur in the next couple of months?

Calz
13th February 2013, 18:34
Joseph Farrell rocks.

I don't necessarily agree with *everything* he says either ... yet he goes way out there with his theories.

I have many of his books ... and find his linear logic compelling.

I have nothing to prove otherwise.

araucaria
13th February 2013, 18:48
Thanks for the post Araucaria. I'll have to follow-up with Gregoire. Until now, I have never heard of him. It is an extremely intriguing topic, and it looks like it will only get much more intriguing in the next couple of months. Do you have any predictions what might occur in the next couple of months?

Cardinal André Vingt-trois of France could become Jean Vingt-quatre (John XXIV) :)

But don't bank on it; last time I was kind of hoping Cardinal Sin (no joke!) would get in, but I think he would have needed the name change first...

giovonni
13th February 2013, 19:17
From my friend ~ Michael Tomlinson ~

it's already Valentine's Day Downunder ~ So i thought i get a heads start today ...

This is for all those Valentines ... i never sent ... http://factoryjoe.s3.amazonaws.com/emoticons/emoticon-0101-sadsmile.gif

***********

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY EVERYONE http://factoryjoe.s3.amazonaws.com/emoticons/emoticon-0152-heart.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZ32I0ElJs

Guest
13th February 2013, 22:19
I'm back and in much warmer weather. Grateful.

1inMany,

My good hot fire is for everyone to share, it's not my fire it is everyone's.
The fire is something I keep going; that I take comfort in. It reminds me that I am connected to everything and everyone and that we all have the fire within -below and above.

You are loved and protected
for you 1,

For those of us who remember when we were Spirits

Who remember that we are Spirits

We understand that we are on this Spirit Journey The Circle of Life which starts in the Spirit World

And which takes us back there
- Chief Noel Starblanket

Starblanket: A Spirit Journey is The Circle
of Life, the return of the ancient teachings,
and the Seventh Generation. It is hope for
the future and a reminder of what we have
long since forgotten and though it is one
man's story, it is everyone's journey


Starblanket: A Spirit Journey is a spiritually
inspired documentary. Educational and
informative, emotional and joyful, it is
infused with the wisdom of the Elders-- their
words and voices are woven throughout.
The Native American soundtrack, both
traditional and contemporary, is a healing
journey in and of itself.

http://the8thfire.org/starblanket/media.htm


20372


The Prophecy of the 8th Fire


They will come to a fork in the road. One road will lead to Materialism and Destruction.....for almost all living creatures....The other road will lead to a Spiritual Way upon which the Native People will be standing...This path will lead to the lighting of the 8th fire, a period of eternal peace, harmony and a "New Earth" where the destruction of the past will be healed


Anishnabe prophecy



http://www.the8thfire.org/8thfire/index.htm

A unique and widely diverse group of people came together, representing different cultures, walks of life and ranging in age from small babies to elders in their late 80s. They came together to experience a message and a vision of HOPE and this is probably why everyone seemed so HAPPY!

NEFywvckSaU



Love


Nora

skippy
13th February 2013, 23:02
In the ancient Roman calendar (until perhaps as late as just BC), the "Month of Mars" was the first month of the year (january and february were added at a later stage). The 1st of Mars was New Year's day for the Romans and it was at this day that the sacred fire of Rome was renewed..

http://thenakedlistener.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/romancalendar.jpg?w=460

astrid
13th February 2013, 23:13
Very interesting turn of events for me this week,
now im looking at it as not actually just being about me,
but about the collective, kind of reading two latest events
like you would read a dream.

I wrote a long post on this in the middle of the night,
but my thoughts got tangled and don't think it made
any sense. Might try again later, even if i just document it
for interests sake, it relates to the current pope leaving and why.

ulli
13th February 2013, 23:31
Very interesting turn of events for me this week,
now im looking at it as not actually being about me,
but about the collective, kind of reading two latest events
like you would read a dream.

I wrote a long post on this in the middle of the night,
but my thoughts got tangled and don't think it made
any sense. Might try again later, even if i just document it
for interests sake, it relates to the current pope leaving and why.

I've had similar stuff going on...brief moments of seership and clarity, only to forget them...
But still was left with a feeling that all is exactly as it should be.
And about the pope...
And what will he do and say once he is outside the institution of the Vatican? Where will he live?
Should be interesting...if he can stay healthy enough to give interviews, or write a book
Perhaps even do a public confession or tell-all?
I see a lot of surprises coming our way, and the different cultural groups coming together
as this young generation is turning their backs against the ancient traditions.
Lets hope they dump the traditions but keep some of the values.

Guest
14th February 2013, 01:27
Update on C. She made it through the surgeries okay and is out of the hospital. Needs a lot of recovery time though. She is not a lone and her family and friends have been taking care of her. The docttors say she has heart problems. Asking for good prayers for her of healing, warmth and love. Thank you villagers.

20375

Love


Nora

astrid
14th February 2013, 01:33
20376

Beautiful

astrid
14th February 2013, 01:40
Prayers please,

we lost 2 fire fighters here yesterday.

20377


"It is with deep regret DSE announces the deaths of two DSE fire-fighters
yesterday while on deployment to the Harrietville-Alpine North fire ground.

The female fire-fighter is Katie Peters, 19, from Tallandoon. Katie has been
with DSE for two seasons as a Project Fire Fighter, joining DSE as her first
paid job. Katie had taken a year off after Year 12, travelling widely overseas.
She loved animals and was planning to be a vet. Katie was always prepared to
have a go and was the first one to put her hand up to drive a tanker or use
the chainsaw. She made time for everyone; she loved working with her
colleagues and was incredibly down-to earth.

At this time DSE can only name one of the fire-fighters as the family of the
fire-fighter, 29, from Corryong are still informing relatives.

DSE thoughts and sympathies are with the families of our two DSE staff
members, our staff and the community during this difficult time."

ulli
14th February 2013, 01:52
Beautiful Bismuth

http://i.imgur.com/Lck8gFm.jpg

astrid
14th February 2013, 02:04
MucsN5d4uCY

DeDukshyn
14th February 2013, 03:33
Beautiful Bismuth

http://i.imgur.com/Lck8gFm.jpg

Pretty! Grow them yourself?

Carmody
14th February 2013, 04:00
Beautiful, sorta. I know what the bear is thinking. (I'm from around those kinda parts) :)

Playdo of Ataraxas
14th February 2013, 05:43
Yo ho ho everybody. Here and now reading one of my favorites, Josef Conrad, a collection of his works published in 1953 entitled "Tales of Land and Sea". My favorite genre of fiction is sea adventures, and for me Conrad and Melville (Typee & Moby Dick are intoxicating) are the greatest. Currently reading Conrad's "Typhoon". Highly recommended if you're enjoy those types of books. Makes me wish I had a Cuban cigar and a bottle of Rum on the deck of a schooner in the Caribbean. But then again, it never really works out like when you go off to sea..... Not that I ever have. Just dreams......

Lhzm_WLRECg

Calz
14th February 2013, 09:30
*bump*

If there was ever a thread that does *not* need a bump it would be this one ...

... but I came across this and thought it was cute enough to post ...


http://i2.asntown.net/9/aquarium-bump-animated.gif


... but while I am here ...


sQ3xxwQvVnE

Conchis
14th February 2013, 11:25
I'm about to get up out of my old friend, my favorite chair and climb into the truck and drive down to Jupiter, Fl to show my work for a few days. If you live in Jupiter or nearby come see me! Glass is amazing stuff and I have the pleasure of working with it nearly every day. If you get glass cold enough, it melts itself. Now tell that isn't cool!!! See you guys next week!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110202102748.htm

ulli
14th February 2013, 11:39
Waking up here to some powerful posts, even if there are only three of them....

Had a dream of moving house and when I asked the kids to help me
move a particularly heavy piece of furniture I got a firm "No" for an answer
which left me feeling helpless and frustrated.
Somehow this dream explains why I feel so reluctant to go and visit my grandchildren.
Unless I'm wanted I refuse to go. Don't like to impose....

ulli
14th February 2013, 12:37
This is to deepen your knowledge and get the info out there:

_lgPGdgBTaY

Samsara
14th February 2013, 12:43
Happy Valentines Day! Always brings mixed feelings for me... oh well...

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/cat-in-toilet-valentines-day-present.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5817991168/hC2195367/

http://www.survivingcollege.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Grumpy-Cat-Valentines-Day-Meme-6.png

:p

1inMany
14th February 2013, 14:55
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZgXK9FJ3IzA/TVlZ-KKdYgI/AAAAAAAAATg/i0F-LH0Hx2U/s1600/maxine_happyvalentines1.jpg

Ernie Nemeth
14th February 2013, 14:58
Happy Valentine's Day!

Calz
14th February 2013, 15:00
Yeah ... what she said ...

[oooops ... Ernie jumped in there ... what he said too :) ]


http://meghnavillagegroup.webs.com/Animated%20Gif%20Valentine%20Day%20(17).gif

eaglespirit
14th February 2013, 15:43
Happy Valentine's Day to ALL You Lovely Village Ladies : )

Flying to Peru this Tuesday and all of You will be with me in my heart on my journey : )

Flash
14th February 2013, 15:46
The giving of love is an education in itself

Eleanor Roosevelt


Happy Valentine day everyone

http://www.reussir-vie.com/blogwp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Saint-Valentin.jpg

My daughter almost jumped in my face yesterday all excited, putting right in front of my eyes (like 1/2 inch) a bouquet of hearts she had bought for her young boyfriend plus a gifty. She was really excited, her first Valentine day with a boyfriend. He is very sweet. He sold his collection of some cards to have enough money to invite her for dinner. He does not want her to pay for anything. It is his first Valentine day with a girlfriend too. So he is making it great, picking her up at home (he lives far), bringing her in China Town for dinner and she knows he has some sort of surprise too.

She was very well dressed this morning and very excited.

Just seeing that worths the Valentine days.

yukondiva
14th February 2013, 16:32
Yada yada etc etc valentines day.....a commercially driven day for large corporations to make tons o money off unsuspecting rubes, sorry folks just saying

astrid
14th February 2013, 16:41
20378

And the pope humor just keeps on coming

Lisab
14th February 2013, 17:36
Woke up to a beautiful sunrise over the bay, after days of rain, and now watching an equally beautiful sunset. It's half term here, so I've spent my Valentines Day on a date to the cinema with a seven year old!

Spring must be getting closer, my house is clean! I've also tied up all officious matters before the Mercury retro (in my sign). So that's my new thing here....order! Even my handbag is tidy!

Love to all xxx

Playdo of Ataraxas
14th February 2013, 17:53
Transhumanist thought for the day:

ulli
14th February 2013, 17:57
Transhumanist thought for the day:


WOW, Playdo, well-said.
And can you imagine AI making cartoons like that?

Dennis Leahy
14th February 2013, 18:13
Ulli,
I gave my wife the necklace and earrings you made - today, for a Valentine's Day gift. She loves them! Thanks again!

To All,
I'm taking a self-imposed break for (at least) a while. Once in, you'll never leave my heart, but I am getting too frustrated to hang out at Avalon. I don't have an adjective to describe my frustration with the non-action of my countrymen as my country both collapses in an economic class war and continues to be the most malevolent force on the planet. My head and heart are about to explode from the non-action (from what I perceive is mostly cowardice and new-age selfish rationalization), and I need to take my energy elsewhere until...I'm not sure when. Be well, keep communicating, keep growing in compassion.

Love,

Dennis

ulli
14th February 2013, 18:24
Oh come on, Dennis!!! Don't quit.
We are doing wonders here, it's just
that you can't actually see any results yet.
Good stuff will come about as you
focus on it....you multiply it.

Avalon IS the universe...in miniature.
And we are like a pendulum, moving between
two poles. We just need to allow the motion, and not get too fixed.
All self expression contributes to the wondrous world we live in.
Allow the Highest Spirit to move you and all will be well.

Here and now, have a little laugh:

http://i.imgur.com/VjEEhZA.jpg

Ernie Nemeth
14th February 2013, 20:26
Dennis, I totally feel for you, I'm sorry.

[Please understand, Dennis, I would give up my entire life and all my possessions in a heartbeat and go march on Capital hill or to Ottawa if I thought it would help but it will not. The people are not ready. Period.]

This is what I was going to write in solidarity, my friend, for I feel as you feel:

(Although I am not in a negative place myself, I feel these priority threads are far too out in left field to take seriously. Some I cannot understand, others are just insane, imho.
I was going to list them to illustrate but any outsider to Avalon, if introduced to such outlandish ideas would simply laugh, snort, call me an idiot and be on their way.

We have become focussed on the negative, here at Avalon, my ears are buzzing again, and I am smart enough to know when enough is enough.

I will pray for you all and hold a place of positivity, and when these crazy topics are finally expended, I'll be back.)

But, you know what? Then they win. And who will be left to balance this insanity if not for the likes of you and me (and of course many others). I'm surprised you are not even on my friends list. No, I will not give up or give in or be cowed. Our time is just around the corner. I will wait it out, here.

Here I will stand my ground. Here I draw my line in the sand! I belong here, and here I will stay!

May the most high God bless and keep you all.
Peace

Fred Steeves
14th February 2013, 20:41
Action takes many forms Dennis, throughout many different aspects of reality. Please consider this while you are away. I understand your frustration, and all my best to you and your family.

Cheers Brother,
Fred

ulli
14th February 2013, 20:50
Yada yada etc etc valentines day.....a commercially driven day for large corporations to make tons o money off unsuspecting rubes, sorry folks just saying

you mean, like this:?

http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2013/02/924ac3a1e7bb2dcf3d9f52998d0b91b5_original.jpg?1360845940

ulli
14th February 2013, 21:07
http://i.imgur.com/ATt7P3q.gif

Guest
14th February 2013, 21:17
Totally understandable Dennis but things aren't always what they seem to be. We are getting closer -it's all I can say for now. Please peek into the village from time to time and say hello.


Hugs and Love
20381



Love


Nora

Grumpy Cat
14th February 2013, 21:40
So I was just listening to this brilliant song:

PoMI6hqfZZM

One of the lyrics in the chorus is "What if I'm already dead, how would I know?" An interesting question - what if we are in some sort of afterlife? How would we know if we were or, were not?

Something to ponder...

An interesting synchronicity is that I asked this question aloud to myself, hit the next track button on a shuffled playlist of over 1000 songs and what played? "We Are The Dead" by David Bowie...

Flash
14th February 2013, 22:13
Ulli,
I gave my wife the necklace and earrings you made - today, for a Valentine's Day gift. She loves them! Thanks again!

To All,
I'm taking a self-imposed break for (at least) a while. Once in, you'll never leave my heart, but I am getting too frustrated to hang out at Avalon. I don't have an adjective to describe my frustration with the non-action of my countrymen as my country both collapses in an economic class war and continues to be the most malevolent force on the planet. My head and heart are about to explode from the non-action (from what I perceive is mostly cowardice and new-age selfish rationalization), and I need to take my energy elsewhere until...I'm not sure when. Be well, keep communicating, keep growing in compassion.

Love,

Dennis

don't quit Dennis, it is changing but the boat is a large one to steer. Proof: it seems the ex benedict pope is asking Italy's president to make sure he won't be sued. If Italians are ready to hang him, the sacracy of chuch, the sacro-saint sacracy of the church Italians have, represented by the Pope, there is definite hope for America. Keep your hope Dennis.

donk
14th February 2013, 22:21
I don't know how I feel about the title (and therefore repeated lyric 'born to die'), but the rest of this song a friend sent me caused me to nearly breakdown at my desk...

Bag1gUxuU0g

Sometimes love is not enough and the road gets tough
I don't know why

ulli
14th February 2013, 22:25
Has anyone seen Paula lately?

ThePythonicCow
14th February 2013, 22:51
Has anyone seen Paula lately?

According to my inside sources (er ... eh ... me) , she's around, but not active.

Samsara
15th February 2013, 00:34
Has anyone seen Paula lately?

I was thinking the same thing today... where is Paula ? Quiet, I understand. Hope you're OK WCBD.

1inMany
15th February 2013, 01:06
Oh, Dennis, my heart breaks. I will miss you so much.

I'm hoping, with all my heart, that those who have taken leave recently find peace.

And then return. I just can't help it.

Much Love,

astrid
15th February 2013, 02:05
oh lookie.. we have a new pope, that was quick


20392

Carmody
15th February 2013, 02:28
This is to deepen your knowledge and get the info out there:

_lgPGdgBTaY

Aluminum:

Fries the brain, possibly blocks higher dimensional access (as far as we can tell, this is very probable)

Strontium: The human body will resort to strontium uptake as a calcium replacement. ie, that instead of calcium in your bones and whatnot, your body will use strontium. There are going to be problems with this. The known problems may help shed light on the shape of the agenda.

barium: "Soluble barium compounds are poisonous due to release of the soluble barium ion, and therefore have been used as rodenticides." (wikepedia)

Add in a couple of nukes or high levels of radioactive contamination, and you have a recipe for large scale death via slow human body breakdown.


Oh yes, psychic sensitivity.

Calcite in the pineal gland. Strontium in the pineal gland instead? ie, no psychic capacities?

Vivek was talking about this aspect, to some degree:


Abstract

A new form of biomineralization in the pineal gland of the human brain has been studied. It consists of small crystals that are less than 20 μm in length and that are completely distinct from the often-observed mulberry-type hydroxyapatite concretions. Cubic, hexagonal and cylindrical morphologies have been identified using scanning electron microscopy. Energy dispersive spectroscopy, selected-area electron diffraction and near infrared Raman spectroscopy established that the crystals were calcite. Experiments at the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF) to study the biomineralization showed the presence of sulfur originating from both heteropolysaccharides and amino acids. Other studies at the ESRF furnished information on the complex texture crystallization of the calcite. With the exception of the otoconia structure of the inner ear, this is the only known non-pathological occurrence of calcite in the human body. The calcite microcrystals are believed to be responsible for the previously observed second harmonic generation in pineal tissue sections. There is a strong possibility that the complex twinned structure of the crystals may lower their symmetry and permit the existence of a piezoelectric effect.


http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=1285888&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F94%2F28688%2F01285888.pdf%3Farnumber%3D1285888

Oh yes. second harmonic. Higher frequency and tuning fork, all at the same time.

As for me, I'm a bit quiet, as these particular astrological alignments out there are powerful for the general public but..they've got a pretty strong influence in my chart. I was born with extremes in/of rides... so I'm used to it to some degree.

The astrology can also be tied to this issue that is driving Dennis to taking time off. I've been taking time off. But the one thing I do know, is that things change.

Lisab
15th February 2013, 07:04
Big, big, BIG hugs and love to Paula and Dennis and others taking a break. Enjoy your space.

meeradas
15th February 2013, 08:22
Even my handbag is tidy!

This is No. 1 amongst the oddest, unbelievable things i've ever 'heard' from a woman :biggrin1:


..., and I need to take my energy elsewhere ...

You might wanna take it inside... for a change of perspective.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21822_403301096431189_1553195074_n.jpg

Lunesoleil
15th February 2013, 10:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0HNWto0UY
Good Weekend :wizard:

Lunesoleil
15th February 2013, 10:12
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgyk1k_struck-ou-cupidon-des-temps-modernes_fun?start=2#.UR4I6fJP9BQ
I am sorry for this time elapsed between two visits, I'm so busy writing on my blog and on the Web that I can't be everywhere at once, two videos that you are going to love
http://lunesoleil23.wordpress.com/
:angel:

Lunesoleil
15th February 2013, 11:03
For the Astro buffs, another way of looking at aspects.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/declinations.html

20350

"How Do I Use The Declination Graph?

The Declination Graph is another way of looking at aspects. To use this graph, just find the planet(s) you are interested in and look at their positions in the graph.

When you see planets that are at the same degree (either up or down), they are said to be Parallel. If they are at the same degree but one above and the other below the middle line (celestial equator), that is called a Contra Parallel.

These aspects are similar to the conjunction and the opposition aspect.

Parallels exist when there is a conjunction. The meaning will be determined by the planets involved and the houses and signs that they are in. But when two planets are conjunct and parallel, that means they share the same celestial latitude as well as degree.

Contra-Parallel exist when there is an opposition; like the Parallel, it will depend on the planets and their house positions. When two planets are opposed and parallel, that means they share the same celestial latitude, as well as opposing degrees.

There is a special time when the planet is at Zero. This is when they are neither up or down from the celestial equator (the middle line in the graph). This is a time when the planet is going to be strong and the principles of that planet will be emphasized. "


( posted to me by an astro friend of mine, so i thought i would share it here also)
Thanks for the link :wizard:

Excerpt from the book: the Transmutation of the planetary influences of Bernard Duchatelle editions wheel Celeste

The parallel page. 222 / 223

It is a global aspect seen by the former as essential and almost forgotten by modern astrologers. The oblivion of the parallel is symptomatic of the State of our current knowledge. Western astrologers do not have full confidence in the art that he practised and it seems that as soon as the calculations become a little too demanding or sought to consider the zodiac in a way a little more subtle, more complex, there is a passive, negative reaction that prevents further.

Thus Astrology has been stripped by the < science > and Psychology (application of scientific analysis in mind) that is not simplistic, directly comprehensible.

The parallel to apply a second field of geocentric forces, it allows to find the links that are often lacking in the relationship between the stars. It allows astrological problems that are supposedly impossible. many figures are actually incomprehensible in their meanings, and their actions if the parallel is not used.

Definition:

Two celestial bodies that are equidistant from the celestial equator are said to be parallel. These celestial bodies are located both in the North or South of the celestial equator or one North and the other to the South, has absolutely no importance. ( ... )

One wonders how it is possible that such kind is increasingly forgotten, when there is less than a century, major astrologers said: < student should bring attention to the variations of the planets because the Zodiac parallel was more important than any aspect >

There is a maximum of Astral themes which the interpretation is incomplete, sometimes erroneous, because the use of this aspect; a planet that appears alone, isolated, peregrine's position, is often explained by this look like a conjunction (similarly) for the traditional astrologer. This figure thus opens the door to mixtures of influences, meetings of universe, which may be fertile or sterile, negative or positive, depending on the values of the relevant stars.

the value of the parallel is equivalent to the conjunction. assuming a Neptune in Balance for example, peregrine, isolated from the other stars, master fish will not be raised and can be sometimes believe that his influence is non-existent in the life of the subject. However, if Venus master of the Balance, is located in the theme, positioned in the fish, in exaltation. Parallel to Neptune all energies are changed. This simple parallel makes all the difference; because it has the value of a Neptune/Venus conjunction in the sign of Libra (Venus) or fish (Neptune); (the parallel then acts as a bridge between the two stars, if not this aspect, the mutual relationship by signs is completely insufficient, except when special circumstances that will affect the two stars at the same time). ( ... )

The strength of this aspect is related to the geometric forces who work around the Earth, which enclose the humanity in a net of vibrations that affect our physical, intellectual and emotional lives. There is no reason for that positions North and South of the stars do not have as much importance as their longitude. the astrologers of the past who were studying the stars out, night, visually, is in were seen very frequently.

The modern astrologer caught in the trap of the extension, flattening of the global knowledge, seeks to reduce art to a few very linear patterns without complications, it seems to avoid the intellectual fatigue in order to be able to operate a system that he has never understood the most simplistic way (scientists have really of what is fun)

All the forces come together, all operations, configuration, affect each other, complement each other and are mutually. the total conjunction between two astral body corresponds to the concealment of the body by the other: If the two bodies are on the same side of the celestial equator in longitude and parallel joint, it is an Eclipse that it is. If two bodies are at the same longitude at equal distance from the equator to the North and the other to the South, the conjunction is very powerful and in most cases more beneficial than the previous.

Astrology is the oldest of the sciences, it is she who gave birth to the empiricism; It is essential to do nothing accept without having probed in depth the truth of what is advanced...
English translation
http://lunesoleil.forumactif.com/t323-les-declinaisons#1376

1inMany
15th February 2013, 12:09
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001728771/414821721_Good20Morning20World202009_07_31_xlarge.jpeg

Much Love,

Flash
15th February 2013, 13:03
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgyk1k_struck-ou-cupidon-des-temps-modernes_fun?start=2#.UR4I6fJP9BQ
I am sorry for this time elapsed between two visits, I'm so busy writing on my blog and on the Web that I can't be everywhere at once, two videos that you are going to love
http://lunesoleil23.wordpress.com/
:angel:
truly cute videos, i TRULY enjoyed thanks Lunesoleil

Beren
15th February 2013, 13:15
Hi Guys!

By the good will of friends in Italy, my book is translated now in Italian. If someone wants to read it on Italian, PM me here with your e mail and I will send you the book.

Thanks :)

Let the art spread around!

yukondiva
15th February 2013, 15:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b24m6mCBn0E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

1inMany
15th February 2013, 15:37
Yesterday, I went to Little One's Valentine's Day party. I was struck by how different he is from all the other kids, and how different I am from all the other parents and grandparents. While most of the kids are having difficulty with diction and grammar, struggling with associating rote counting with any mathematical process, Little One adores meaningful conversations and musings of "Why's" and "Then What's" and "What If's" and doing actual math problems in his head. While the kids either blindly followed the teachers' instructions or blatantly acted out in opposition, Little One showered me with affection and excitedly talked about all that was going on around him. While the majority of the adults stood elbow to elbow at the classroom door, I sat "criss-cross applesauce" (ouch) with him plopped on my lap in the middle of story time.

Little One's teacher is amazed that he comes in with a smile every morning, smiles all through the day, and leaves with a smile on his face. The joy in his soul radiates outwardly, and the smile is beautiful because it is sincere. Why would a child not feel this joy? This, I do not understand, and will never accept.

I received yet another invitation to the First Baptist Church. Ugh. I can't figure that one out. People must notice some kind of difference and figure I need to be saved or something. I had a hunch, so asked this teacher if she knows Em's teacher, the one who proselytizes unscrupulously. Sure enough, they are fast friends. We all got a good hoot out of this last night.

Yesterday, Em's class was discussing "In God We Trust." Em asked an honest question about "God" being where the country places its trust. She mentioned to the teacher that the Constitution prevents having a national religion, and asked if that motto doesn't do exactly that...promote Christianity for the whole nation. The teacher proceeded to try to explain to her, and to the class, how "God" in this instance meant some type of higher power, like Muslims would say "In Allah We Trust." She did explain to the class, however, that Buddha is just a "fat statue" and "never really existed." Poor Em. The whole class thought this discussion was quite funny, and yelled out all kinds of figureheads, including Satan. She is a little frustrated that she really does want to learn at school, and no one else seems to. So, telling her about the FBC invitation let her know that I do understand...helped a little. I do understand, anyway.

I told Em that one of these days, this negativity will not be here any more. Hold fast to your Hope. I reminded her of Emily Dickinson's words, "Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul, and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all.." Let it take flight, Em.

Today I met with M's school to discuss her graduation. Full circle for me this week. M has completed 15 high school semester credits in 6 months, breaks and all. That is more than two years of high school. She not only passed the standardized state tests, but got "Commended" on them, a higher notation than "passed." It will take her the next few days to complete her final research paper. They told her she could write on any topic she wanted, and she chose ODD, Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They are having a party for her next week, the cake is for 50 people. I'm...shocked...proud...so many emotions here this week.

M has overcome challenges most people haven't even heard of, much less actually dealt with. (Please allow me a moment here) When she was 6, in the First Grade, I wondered if she would ever be able to live what most people call a normal life. She could not function in a group, large or small, and we learned that the hard way. She needed drastic accommodations to get the through the school day, and I fought for her every single day of her life just so that people would provide her with what she needed. The concessions did not seem drastic to me, they seemed quite reasonable. Allow her to remove herself from a situation when she needed to. Show her compassion and empathy first, in all situations (because when everything is boiled away, her perception is her reality.) And a loving and genuine person was always, always, placed in her life that could take over during school what I was trying to accomplish at home. Angels? Without them, M could not have come so far. No doubt about that.

M will be staying in the country, with me, for a while longer. The city is a dangerous place, full of energies that are tied in knots and have no focus but to tear down. We have come up with several good options for keeping forward movement in her life. There are a couple of possible volunteer opportunities, a couple of day cares to target for employment, and even a good college (if I can keep her here that long.)

So, here and now...focusing on all the positives, all the points of light I can see or feel or know. The worry hits, the emotions, the negativity, and I release it to Source. Who/what better to handle it? I am getting a lot of practice with this, and I think I am improving. Before long, it will not take so much effort. One lung full of light inhaled at a time, one very powerful exhale of muck at a time. Flow. And Balance.

Much Love, Village Friends,

Flash
15th February 2013, 15:45
Yesterday, I went to Little One's Valentine's Day party. I was struck by how different he is from all the other kids, and how different I am from all the other parents and grandparents. While most of the kids are having difficulty with diction and grammar, struggling with associating rote counting with any mathematical process, Little One adores meaningful conversations and musings of "Why's" and "Then What's" and "What If's" and doing actual math problems in his head. While the kids either blindly followed the teachers' instructions or blatantly acted out in opposition, Little One showered me with affection and excitedly talked about all that was going on around him. While the majority of the adults stood elbow to elbow at the classroom door, I sat "criss-cross applesauce" (ouch) with him plopped on my lap in the middle of story time.

Little One's teacher is amazed that he comes in with a smile every morning, smiles all through the day, and leaves with a smile on his face. The joy in his soul radiates outwardly, and the smile is beautiful because it is sincere. Why would a child not feel this joy? This, I do not understand, and will never accept.

I received yet another invitation to the First Baptist Church. Ugh. I can't figure that one out. People must notice some kind of difference and figure I need to be saved or something. I had a hunch, so asked this teacher if she knows Em's teacher, the one who proselytizes unscrupulously. Sure enough, they are fast friends. We all got a good hoot out of this last night.

Yesterday, Em's class was discussing "In God We Trust." Em asked an honest question about "God" being where the country places its trust. She mentioned to the teacher that the Constitution prevents having a national religion, and asked if that motto doesn't do exactly that...promote Christianity for the whole nation. The teacher proceeded to try to explain to her, and to the class, how "God" in this instance meant some type of higher power, like Muslims would say "In Allah We Trust." She did explain to the class, however, that Buddha is just a "fat statue" and "never really existed." Poor Em. The whole class thought this discussion was quite funny, and yelled out all kinds of figureheads, including Satan. She is a little frustrated that she really does want to learn at school, and no one else seems to. So, telling her about the FBC invitation let her know that I do understand...helped a little. I do understand, anyway.

I told Em that one of these days, this negativity will not be here any more. Hold fast to your Hope. I reminded her of Emily Dickinson's words, "Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul, and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all.." Let it take flight, Em.

Today I met with M's school to discuss her graduation. Full circle for me this week. M has completed 15 high school semester credits in 6 months, breaks and all. That is more than two years of high school. She not only passed the standardized state tests, but got "Commended" on them, a higher notation than "passed." It will take her the next few days to complete her final research paper. They told her she could write on any topic she wanted, and she chose ODD, Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They are having a party for her next week, the cake is for 50 people. I'm...shocked...proud...so many emotions here this week.

M has overcome challenges most people haven't even heard of, much less actually dealt with. (Please allow me a moment here) When she was 6, in the First Grade, I wondered if she would ever be able to live what most people call a normal life. She could not function in a group, large or small, and we learned that the hard way. She needed drastic accommodations to get the through the school day, and I fought for her every single day of her life just so that people would provide her with what she needed. The concessions did not seem drastic to me, they seemed quite reasonable. Allow her to remove herself from a situation when she needed to. Show her compassion and empathy first, in all situations (because when everything is boiled away, her perception is her reality.) And a loving and genuine person was always, always, placed in her life that could take over during school what I was trying to accomplish at home. Angels? Without them, M could not have come so far. No doubt about that.

M will be staying in the country, with me, for a while longer. The city is a dangerous place, full of energies that are tied in knots and have no focus but to tear down. We have come up with several good options for keeping forward movement in her life. There are a couple of possible volunteer opportunities, a couple of day cares to target for employment, and even a good college (if I can keep her here that long.)

So, here and now...focusing on all the positives, all the points of light I can see or feel or know. The worry hits, the emotions, the negativity, and I release it to Source. Who/what better to handle it? I am getting a lot of practice with this, and I think I am improving. Before long, it will not take so much effort. One lung full of light inhaled at a time, one very powerful exhale of muck at a time. Flow. And Balance.

Much Love, Village Friends,

love to you, whole universe love, for the outstanding work you are doing with those kids around you, and with your husband too.

ulli
15th February 2013, 16:16
Germany gets it about energy....
Even though it's not quite free, it's better than nothing.

ZE3LojVWkrQ

astrid
15th February 2013, 16:27
Good work,1
Loved that story too
M is a credit to you she will continue to
shine and blossom under your watch

Your souls purpose is very clear in those words -
to help nurture young souls into awakening here .

I bow to you, i could never have done the mother thing
in this incarnation and certainly not with the patience and
grace the you have

Love you

1inMany
15th February 2013, 17:01
I do not know what it was in my post that reached out. But the love that I have felt from these few words in response (and thank you's) has brought me to my knees.

From my heart, thank you.

araucaria
15th February 2013, 18:13
it's better than nothing.


Only just, if that, according to Wade Frazier :(

astrid
15th February 2013, 21:05
Werner Von Braun’s Predictions

The pioneer rocket scientist laying on his death bed confided in Dr. Carol Rosin his fears about the
weaponization of space. He identified the scare tactics that would convince the public to accept that space-based weapons need to be built.
He made this prediction in the early 70's what these artificial threats would consist of:

1. Russians / Communists
2. Terrorists
3. Third-world Country "Crazies" / Axis of Evil / Nations of Concern
4. Asteroids
5. Aliens (extraterrestrials)

donk
15th February 2013, 22:51
Ugh...need to end my relationship (actually needed to earlier this week), but my oldest's b-day party tonight. My soon to be ex-gf should know it is coming, however people can put up the most insane levels of delusion.

Looking forward to losing a gigantic amount of drama from my life, however playing whatever game I have to first tonight is starting to make feel ill. Send me strength to keep my integrity & composure while I play this one last game she insists on playing...she's made it difficult to always be acting from place of love lately.

I do love her, unconditionally. But I surrender:

NpVWoF57sZg

Wind
16th February 2013, 00:54
Hello all, this is my first post to this thread. :o :wave:

I've been just mostly observing (that's what I am, an observer).

This has been a busy day for me, been studying many things... I've had lots of energy to do it, but now I'm pretty much exhausted. Better to reload my batteries. : )

ulli
16th February 2013, 01:04
Ugh...need to end my relationship (actually needed to earlier this week), but my oldest's b-day party tonight. My soon to be ex-gf should know it is coming, however people can put up the most insane levels of delusion.

Looking forward to losing a gigantic amount of drama from my life, however playing whatever game I have to first tonight is starting to make feel ill. Send me strength to keep my integrity & composure while I play this one last gamIe she insists on playing...she's made it difficult to always be acting from place of love lately.

I do love her, unconditionally. But I surrender:
]

Weird reading this just as I'm on my way to a wedding reception ... First one in years, so not something I do all the time....
So sorry you couldn't work it out, donk... Hope this isnt going to be too hard on the kids.

1inMany
16th February 2013, 01:04
Hi Starseed :) Careful, posting here has proven addictive for some. Not me, of course. :whistle: I like it when people that I haven't known before share :)

donk, that sounds like a tough evening. Whatever strength I can muster after a very long week, I gladly share with you. I hope things work out for the best, whatever that may entail.

Much Love,

Marianne
16th February 2013, 02:20
Ugh...need to end my relationship (actually needed to earlier this week), but my oldest's b-day party tonight. My soon to be ex-gf should know it is coming, however people can put up the most insane levels of delusion.

Looking forward to losing a gigantic amount of drama from my life, however playing whatever game I have to first tonight is starting to make feel ill. Send me strength to keep my integrity & composure while I play this one last game she insists on playing...she's made it difficult to always be acting from place of love lately.

I do love her, unconditionally. But I surrender:

You've been on my mind the last few days, donk.

This past little while, you've seen a lot of growth. Kudos to you for moving forward. I know this is hard to do. Sending you strong love to help you stand with integrity and courage and compassion.

I'll do some Reiki in a little bit.

ps: Just to clarify what Reiki is, it's not the energy of the practitioner. It's a universal energy that the healee (in this case, you, donk) pulls in ... as needed by you, you are in charge of taking in what you need, as it should be. The practitioner is merely a vessel to bring the energy to you.

Playdo of Ataraxas
16th February 2013, 03:46
Getting close to 1400, and the thread slows to a snail's pace. Hope all is well with everyone, here and now. Here and now, for me, enjoying Friday and the prospect of the weekend, nursing a Pabst, and listening to a song about Billy the Kid, The Slip Jigs and Reels:

dNy9aA1JfB0

Calz
16th February 2013, 05:14
Hello all, this is my first post to this thread. :o :wave:

I've been just mostly observing (that's what I am, an observer).

This has been a busy day for me, been studying many things... I've had lots of energy to do it, but now I'm pretty much exhausted. Better to reload my batteries. : )

Welcome to the "village" StarSeed.

I have enjoyed your posts.

Wind
16th February 2013, 05:19
Welcome to the "village" StarSeed.

I have enjoyed your posts.

Thanks Calz and likewise, you have often made me laugh.

CdnSirian
16th February 2013, 05:36
Hail Villagers, TGIF - even though I work a half day tomorrow. Worked till 9 tonite - good stuff.

Feeling sad as a friend and friend of a friend both being butchered by the cancer racket. Arg!

One got into a drug trial by agreeing to take no supplements - no vites, no minerals for 2 years! bang my head on the wall....bang my head on the wall....

Donk sorry about your split up. Had a couple myself...there's a future.

And thanks all above...I always like to peek in here now, even when I have but 2 minutes.

araucaria
16th February 2013, 06:48
Werner Von Braun’s Predictions

The pioneer rocket scientist laying on his death bed confided in Dr. Carol Rosin his fears about the
weaponization of space. He identified the scare tactics that would convince the public to accept that space-based weapons need to be built.
He made this prediction in the early 70's what these artificial threats would consist of:

1. Russians / Communists
2. Terrorists
3. Third-world Country "Crazies" / Axis of Evil / Nations of Concern
4. Asteroids
5. Aliens (extraterrestrials)

Point 4 seems to be a bit of a damp squib. Shall we just move on to point 5 and get this thing over and done with? Simon Parkes says it's on the way. This may be what the Vatican deal is all about. It makes more sense to me right now than Dan Brown's antimatter scenario at least :)

Calz
16th February 2013, 06:51
Maybe yes ... perhaps not ...

(I had posted this earlier ... and I agree with astrid):

_________________________


1) Reminder from 1974:

Werner Von Braun’s Predictions

The pioneer rocket scientist laying on his death bed confided in Dr. Carol Rosin his fears about the weaponization of space. He identified the scare tactics that would convince the public to accept that space-based weapons need to be built.

He made this prediction in the early 70's what these artificial threats would consist of:

1. Russians / Communists
2. Terrorists
3. Third-world Country "Crazies" / Axis of Evil / Nations of Concern
4. Asteroids
5. Aliens (extraterrestrials)


2) Fairly certain Joseph Farrell brought out the possible usage of steering asteroids into planets as weapons. Must have been in one of his books about past ET technology. I did find this recent post from him.

______________________________


A SECRET SPACE WAR?
February 3, 2013 By Joseph P. Farrell

Well, things seem to come in waves… I woke up this morning (Saturday Feb 2) fully intent upon finishing this week’s coming blogs, and discovered that my computer was totally fried. So please bear with me until I can get this sorted out.

In any case, I ran across this article and several of you also emailed it to me, and given that Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations just came out, I have to comment on it.

Secret Space War: America’s Former Nazi Scientists Dream of Ruling the World

The first thing to note here is precisely that this is a Russian analysis. With that in mind, the first thing to observe is that the Russians appear to have picked up on, and are elaborating on the meme of a secret space program that is so much a component of alternative research speculation, including my own. Indeed, as the article makes clear, viewed from the standpoint of history, the American operation paperclip was a secret space program project, albeit one designed to bring the OPEN Nazi program to this country: the missile scientists and engineers, the aircraft, and Germany’s best aerodynamicists and aircraft engineers.

But the paragraphs that grabbed my attention were these:


Gagnon: Well, indeed the United States likes to believe that it owns space, and particularly the Space Command, who on their headquarters building in Colorado Springs, just above the doorway they have their logo that reads “Master of Space”. So, I think that it is quite evident that the Space Command does indeed view space as US territory that must be controlled because they clearly understand that all warfare on the earth today is coordinated by space technology and that whoever essentially controls space will control the planet below, in this case on behalf I believe of corporate globalization. And so the Space Command in our thinking has become the military arm of corporate globalization.

And so today the US is developing a whole host of technologies to allow it to fight war from space, through space and in space, controlling not only the Earth but also the pathway on and off the planet Earth, the pathway to other planetary bodies as resources are discovered on other planets: magnesium, cobalt, uranium, gold, water etc.

In a congressional study done back in the 1980s, the Congress gave the Pentagon the mandate to develop the technologies to control the pathway on and off the planet Earth. So, the Space Command sees its role in a very-very robust kind of way.

In Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilizations I suggested that one of the hidden messages in the Kennedy Bearer Bonds saga was the suggestion that space, or rather, what might be found in it, was collateralized on future exploration and commercial development, to fund the covert development of a vast space capability and new technologies of war. Now, the Russians have picked up on this idea and are indeed suggesting strongly in these paragraphs that they know of this capability, and are even suggesting or hinting that part of this capability includes the militarization of the Moon.

As we have pointed out here previously, this is the Middle Ages replayed: a vast international oligarchy, with secretive ways and methods, forms a nucleus of an international financial fraternity, and develops its own fleet, and uses much of that fleet in secret to explore the New World long before its official discovery.

Now this pattern appears to be definitely repeated: hidden finance and vast funds represented in it, a space connection, allegations of secret space fleets and technologies and capabilities (thank you Gary McKinnon), and now talk, more and more openly, of mining asteroids and the commercial exploitation of space. Indeed, the Russians are hinting – again subtly and quietly – that maybe some sort of trade has already begun, and some sort of clashes on the new high seas of space.

But there is a final and very sobering point to the article: if congress mandated the US Military to control the way on and off this planet, then this means that the US fully intendeds to monopolize whatever commerce as might developm and to monopolize the high ground for its military as well. This is, of course, unipolarity boldly going where no one has gone before…

… So we may fully expect responses, and part of the response will be increasing exposure by foreign powers of the details of that program… This article may be just the opening shot in an increasing effort by the world’s other space powers – Russia, China, France, Germany, India – to expose what has been going on. It will – if my speculation is correct – be only a suggestive trickle at first, with the usual misdirections or hyperbole from the usual sources. But that trickle will gradually increase.

See you on the flip side.



Read more: A SECRET SPACE WAR?
- Giza Death Star Community

http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/02/a-secret-space-war/

araucaria
16th February 2013, 07:54
Thanks Calz. Given that an asteroid is a remnant of an exploded probably warring planet, to use one as a weapon would indeed be 'the Middle Ages replayed' - like starting one war with the leftovers of the previous one. I see yesterday's asteroid as a downsized misaimed version of a blast from the past - tragedy turning into comedy, or a case of 'catastrophobia' (Barbara Hand Clow). Taking our fears off-planet is the final stage. It's a big universe out there, but it only seems hostile because of its size and newness. That means there was plenty of room for this asteroid to slip through without the slightest damage to any of our satellites - not a single tweet was lost :)

Calz
16th February 2013, 08:22
No doubt ulli will spank me again.

She thinks everying from Laura Knight J is trash ... a few others do as well.

While I agree in questionable character traits I believe there is some outstanding work that she has done over the years. Not talking about anything channeled. This is stuff we can all pull up and look at ...

We pass through these fields every so often. Denying the facts does no one any good. Part of a cycle and nothing more. Even if today in Russia (perhaps Cuba) was the first on the ground confirmation there are clearly more we are now moving through.

Mama needs to cleanse and perhaps this is part of it?

_____________________


The Carolina Bays date to this time. The Carolina bays are mysterious land features often filled with bay trees and other wetland vegetation. Because of their oval shape and consistent orientation, they are considered by some authorities to be the result of a vast meteor shower that occurred approximately 12,000 years ago. What is most astonishing is the number of them. There are over 500,000 of these shallow basins dotting the coastal plain from Georgia to Delaware. That is a frightening figure.

Let me repeat: there are over 500,000 of these shallow basins.



20406

© Unknown
"Carolina Bays": They are found the length of the US eastern seaboard and are not really bays

Unlike virtually any other bodies of water or changes in elevation, these topographical features follow a reliable and unmistakable pattern. Carolina Bays are circular, typically stretched, elliptical depressions in the ground, oriented along their long axis from the Northwest to the Southeast. [T]hey are further characterized by an elevated rim of fine sand surrounding the perimeter. [...]

Robert Kobres, an independent researcher in Athens, Georgia, has studied Carolina Bays for nearly 20 years in conjunction with his larger interest in impact threats from space. His recent, self-published, investigations have profound consequences for Carolina Bay study and demand research by academia as serious, relevant and previously unexamined new information. The essence of Kobres' theory is that the search for "debris," and the comparison of Bays with "traditional" impact craters, falsely and naively assumes that circular craters with extraterrestrial material in them are the only terrestrial evidence of past encounters with objects entering earth's atmosphere.

Kobres goes a logical step further by assuming that forces associated with incoming bodies, principally intense heat, should also leave visible signatures on the earth. And, finally, that physics does not demand that a "collision" of the bodies need necessarily occur to produce enormous change on earth. To verify that such encounters are possible outside of the physics lab, we need look no further than the so-called "Tunguska event."


vastly more here:

http://www.sott.net/article/151954-Meteorites-Asteroids-and-Comets-Damages-Disasters-Injuries-Deaths-and-Very-Close-Calls

Ernie Nemeth
16th February 2013, 08:24
I wanted to put my camera where it belongs on top of the screen so people can look me in the eye when I skype. As a result, I spent the next twelve hours cleaning and sorting the disaster that ensued. You see, the camera didn’t have enough room on top of the screen so I had to adjust my shelves one notch higher. I thought I could just leave everything on the shelves and gently lift one side at a time...big mistake. All the books, the printer, my papers and notes, pencils, pens, the nick knacks, little boxes full of odds and ends, everything came crashing down ripping out wires from the computer and ending in a pile on the floor.

After regaining my composure, I had to take a quick nap to reset, I began the job of putting things right again. These days I don’t miss too many signs and I took this as a sign to finish sorting through my stuff and so I spent the next twelve hours doing just that. The biggest job was cleaning the blinds. Just as a warning, if you smoke, it’s probably a better idea to buy new blinds than trying to clean the crud off the old ones. Next I went through my files and threw so much stuff out that I went from 6 file boxes down to just two! Notes, half finished books, poems, old bills and invoices, letters and cards, everything gone (I kept most of the photographs of my life, though, and my daughter’s art and report cards from her years in school)! I even went through my books yet again and took about half of my paltry remaining horde down to the laundry room - they always get snatched up real quick, I don’t have anything but the best reading material.

I even rearranged my room so that now I have enough room to comfortably do yoga on the rug. My past is pretty much gone now, edited down to the bare minimum, with a careful eye to those things that were only a reminder of unrequited dreams and ambitions, and guilt-filled memories. Pretty thorough job, if I do say so myself.

Now I’m ready for the future with a clean slate and an unburdened heart. Still pining a bit for those unfinished books and poems, though - I’d always meant to finish them but who cares really...no one but me. The only other thing I threw out that I regret is my collection of Black Sabbath albums on vinyl (travesty, I know, Meeradas). I had the entire set up to Sabotage, but when was I ever going to buy a record player to play them, I ask you, and myself - never. I’ll get over it, they are not important.

Now I am firmly in the now and I feel naked as a babe. I’m fresh and unfettered and traveling lighter than I’ve ever been. Kind of an eerie feeling but I’ll get used to it.

Quite a productive day, all in all. I’m a little disoriented and a bit worried I might have gone too far but it is done now. I’ll adjust. And it did feel right.

Thanks for listening, sorry this blurb is so long.

Calz
16th February 2013, 08:30
Now I am firmly in the now and I feel naked as a babe.



Totally kidding (in advance Ernie).

I greatly admire your strength and heart for what you share not only in this thread but elsewhere ...


Best of luck on your new path ... not too many take the kind of leap you have.

:yo:


http://wondrouspics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/pants.cat_.lol_.jpg

araucaria
16th February 2013, 08:49
No doubt ulli will spank me again.

She thinks everying from Laura Knight J is trash ... a few others do as well.

While I agree in questionable character traits I believe there is some outstanding work that she has done over the years. Not talking about anything channeled. This is stuff we can all pull up and look at ...

We pass through these fields every so often. Denying the facts does no one any good. Part of a cycle and nothing more. Even if today in Russia (perhaps Cuba) was the first on the ground confirmation there are clearly more we are now moving through.

Mama needs to cleanse and perhaps this is part of it?

_____________________


The Carolina Bays date to this time. The Carolina bays are mysterious land features often filled with bay trees and other wetland vegetation. Because of their oval shape and consistent orientation, they are considered by some authorities to be the result of a vast meteor shower that occurred approximately 12,000 years ago. What is most astonishing is the number of them. There are over 500,000 of these shallow basins dotting the coastal plain from Georgia to Delaware. That is a frightening figure.

Let me repeat: there are over 500,000 of these shallow basins.



20406

© Unknown
"Carolina Bays": They are found the length of the US eastern seaboard and are not really bays

Unlike virtually any other bodies of water or changes in elevation, these topographical features follow a reliable and unmistakable pattern. Carolina Bays are circular, typically stretched, elliptical depressions in the ground, oriented along their long axis from the Northwest to the Southeast. [T]hey are further characterized by an elevated rim of fine sand surrounding the perimeter. [...]

Robert Kobres, an independent researcher in Athens, Georgia, has studied Carolina Bays for nearly 20 years in conjunction with his larger interest in impact threats from space. His recent, self-published, investigations have profound consequences for Carolina Bay study and demand research by academia as serious, relevant and previously unexamined new information. The essence of Kobres' theory is that the search for "debris," and the comparison of Bays with "traditional" impact craters, falsely and naively assumes that circular craters with extraterrestrial material in them are the only terrestrial evidence of past encounters with objects entering earth's atmosphere.

Kobres goes a logical step further by assuming that forces associated with incoming bodies, principally intense heat, should also leave visible signatures on the earth. And, finally, that physics does not demand that a "collision" of the bodies need necessarily occur to produce enormous change on earth. To verify that such encounters are possible outside of the physics lab, we need look no further than the so-called "Tunguska event."


vastly more here:

http://www.sott.net/article/151954-Meteorites-Asteroids-and-Comets-Damages-Disasters-Injuries-Deaths-and-Very-Close-Calls

Don't tell me: it happened 24,000 years ago as well somewhere, and so... The pattern I detect is that whenever a past disaster is analyzed, it turns out the next such is due any minute now!

There is one exception to this, which is so huge no one seems to notice. It goes like this: there is a 62 million year cycle of monster catastrophes leading to mass extinctions. The last time, when the dinosaurs were wiped out, happened 65 million years ago. Not only are we due for one now, it is overdue.

By 3 million years - much longer than the entire history of our species.

My conclusion: either our dating system is wrong, or our theory is wrong, or both. Or something else as well.

Calz
16th February 2013, 08:57
I predict *nothing*.

I simply find it folly to ignore evidence that has *clearly* happened in the past.

Now ... if you want to bring in timelines, dimensions, ascension or otherwise ... I roll my eyes and salute you.

The proof of our history on so very many things is really right there in our face.

meeradas
16th February 2013, 09:02
Pretty thorough job

Indeed, Ernie [did it twice myself].

Graet [<-intentional switch of vowel positions, for right pronunciation]!

ThePythonicCow
16th February 2013, 09:04
Or something else as well.
That one gets my vote :).

ulli
16th February 2013, 09:04
Woke up briefly, after a dream in which I relived having been a party pooper last night. We left before dinner.
That DJ was making too much noise for my ears, showing off the techno power of his equipment. I'm not going to go to another wedding party again, ever! At least not in this country. My ear drums are still ringing.
Every note hit my head with asteroid impact. The groom was our friend the deputy police chief. The mayor was there as well as the chief of police. All looked equally miserable as the noisy asteroid shower was impacting them...
I now found the answer to what has caused the worldwide crisis in local government failure: too many noisy parties.
And idiotic DJs with their long raven-colored hair and fake leather cowboy hats are the real oppressors of the planet.

ulli
16th February 2013, 09:08
I predict *nothing*.

I simply find it folly to ignore evidence that has *clearly* happened in the past.

Now ... if you want to bring in timelines, dimensions, ascension or otherwise ... I roll my eyes and salute you.

The proof of our history on so very many things is really right there in our face.

Then why not also predict that the next generation of children will be born with their bodies covered in fur,
since that has also clearly happened in the past?

meeradas
16th February 2013, 09:08
And idiotic DJs with their long raven-colored hair and fake leather cowboy hats are the real oppressors of the planet.

No kidding!

Calz
16th February 2013, 09:15
I predict *nothing*.




Then why not also predict




but ... but ... but


http://www.pic4ever.com/images/290.gif

meeradas
16th February 2013, 09:16
let's turn to post-dicting. It's safe!

Calz
16th February 2013, 09:20
I am turning to bed ... it is (usually) safer ...

night all

:sleep:

ulli
16th February 2013, 09:22
I predict *nothing*.

I simply find it folly to ignore evidence that has *clearly* happened in the past.

Now ... if you want to bring in timelines, dimensions, ascension or otherwise ... I roll my eyes and salute you.

The proof of our history on so very many things is really right there in our face.

I took this as a prediction of cycles repeating themselves,
even as the cycles of non-prediction/ prediction follow patterns.
Speaking from personal experience here, and I'm never wrong. Wink wink

araucaria
16th February 2013, 09:31
More talk of spiders weaving another thread. Here's mine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Redon_smiling-spider.jpg

ulli
16th February 2013, 09:36
More talk of spiders weaving another thread. Here's mine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Redon_smiling-spider.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Redon_smiling-spider.jpg

araucaria
16th February 2013, 09:44
Thanks Ulli. You can tell it's not real: it's got nine legs, sorry ten :)

ulli
16th February 2013, 09:49
More talk of spiders weaving another thread. Here's mine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Redon_smiling-spider.jpg


Imagine taking this for a walk, on a leash, of course,
but just think of the screams...

astrid
16th February 2013, 10:09
The weird energy vibe, seems to be passing, thankfully.

Loads and loads of clearing was being done, which now feels somewhat more
stable. This is going to be the new normal, waves of chaos, interrupted by
periods of calm, then rinse and repeat. More than even staying out of fear
and in a place of stillness is going to be crucial to staying upright.

Ask to clear what is not yours, or what no longer serves you,
and ask that it gets returned to source. Use your breath to do this,
it's very simple, but very powerful. Then feel the difference.
Repeat as many times as you need to, in order to clear yourself
of both current and past energies that are not serving you.

Stay away from adding any sort of charge on it as being "bad" or "negative" ,
that only keeps you under the blanket of a reality that will see you stuck there.

Working to become "whole" infers that we are somehow broken, we are not, and never have been.
Whereas working to evolve puts us in the mindset of expanding outwards, towards becoming
the all powerful. limitless beings that is our sovereign right to be.

And resist getting into conflicts that will only serve to separate us from each other, when being
united will be our greatest weapon of all . Think about who that serves, and where that energy
is coming from, and resist it, use the above method to remove it from your field.

Being energetically sovereign is much more simple than most would have you believe,
that's one of the biggest secrets. And given that we are all energy long before matter
this is where our greatest power is to effect changes in the physical.

astrid
16th February 2013, 10:26
I thought as much...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215

"Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide
him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any
attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around
the world, Church sources and legal experts say."

He would be dead in hours if not minutes if lived outside, no question.

Cowards the lot of them.

Rant over

astrid
16th February 2013, 10:32
Meteorite streaks across San Francisco bay area with SONIC BOOM!

LvVRCTnd5j8


Me .. starting to suspecting, a space war being covered up as falling rocks..
maybe why all the DUMBS??

astrid
16th February 2013, 10:47
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/22/igrow-promises-to-regrow-hair-with-lasers-accessorize-any-wardr/

iGrow promises to regrow hair with lasers, accessorize any wardrobe

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/igrow-02-22-2011.jpg

Now to find that thread where someone was asking for help with receding hair...

PurpleLama
16th February 2013, 10:52
Carolina Bays? Too old to be the result of a technology? Doesn't look like a line of some kind of cluster bombs to anyone else? There are, as a fact, half buried megaliths all up and down the eastern seaboard, as well, that science goes to great lengths to ignore. Too old to fit in with our "history", mmmhmmm.

Speaking of, in my back three acres, in all my clearing and digging and planting, the appears to be a stone shelf underneath a portion of it, about six inches down, with some rich top soil covering. Methinks that is where the tomatoes shall go.

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Being energetically sovereign is much more simple than most would have you believe,

Yes. Indeed.

astrid
16th February 2013, 10:55
The Sabian Symbol for the Sun today is Aquarius 29:

A BUTTERFLY EMERGING FROM A CHRYSALIS

This Symbol shows the ability, or the necessity, of growing, expanding,
escaping restrictions and evolving into a more expansive sense of self with
bigger and better potentials. At times in your life, often crossroads or
major turning points, you are likely to be able to realize many of your latent,
but promising, potentials. Like an awakening, you are suddenly able to do
something that truly reflects you and who you strive to be. This emergence
builds for some time; a metamorphosis takes place. Ensure that you take a
moment to adjust to new developments before taking flight.
Slow building of confidence. Coming out into a fuller participation.
Growing up and out. Leaving yesterday behind. Leaving restrictions.
Blossoming and blooming. Emergence.

The Caution: Failing to allow for changes. Feeling like one will never "arrive".
Too much containment and confinement. Unable to move.
Being tied to the past. Straitjackets.

astrid
16th February 2013, 11:02
Ok, last post, else i will get thrown off for
spamming. :p

20407

"Blue Butterflies Tree",mostly found in South America.
This photograph was taken in Brazil.

PurpleLama
16th February 2013, 11:14
What is hard to see, hard to believe, is that what we have is the result of our sovreignity, used in an unconscious manner.

I would add, everything there is to be cleared is ours/not ours and not ours/ours. Upon finishing taking out "our" garbage, we then assist in the taking out of the rest of "(y)ours". No endeavor is more rewarding than internal excavation.

I bought some more "loppers", as the first pair were not sufficient to the task, and the handle was broken just partway through the sea of underbrush that still remains. The woods are steadily progressing toward the food forest I am designing. The soil was built up for farming back in the 70s and 80s, but has rested for most of the last twenty years. So far everything sprouted seems to be happy where it's at, which is lettuce, broccoli, and cauliflower, mostly. I've sown a thousand seeds in the last week if I've sown a single one, so much more will be appearing in the next few weeks, and many more have yet to be sown. I got a lot o' seeds, oh yes. We will be investing in canning supplies to have that operation going by midsummer at the latest.

astrid
16th February 2013, 12:01
Speaking of sovereignty,

Max Igan's latest offering is a very powerful listen.

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Part 1/5 above

the rest here..

http://www.youtube.com/user/aodscarecrow




yes ok, ok... going going out of here..

p,s i was detoxing today so i have LOADS of energy, off to find some useful
places to distribute it.

p.p,s. @ R gardening talk stop it, it gets me going :p

p.p.p.s waves to the wizard who watches..

ulli
16th February 2013, 13:14
Great contributions there, Astrid. I can think of a few people who would be delighted to give that hair growth helmet a try.

And Reilly's food forest will be a worthwhile place to buy real estate next to, not only because one would then be near an organic food source but there one can be pretty sure of never being impacted by any asteroid debris. Places like that come with an invisible protection shield.

astrid
16th February 2013, 14:10
http://www.hangthebankers.com/german-student-creates-electromagnetic-harvester-that-gathers-free-electricity-from-thin-air/

German student creates electromagnetic harvester that gathers free electricity from thin air

A German student has built an electromagnetic harvester that recharges an AA battery by soaking up ambient,
environmental radiation. These harvesters can gather free electricity from just about anything, including
overhead power lines, coffee machines, refrigerators, or even the emissions from your WiFi router or smartphone.

http://vimeo.com/57142186

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/EM-Harvester-Bahnoberleitungen-crop-640x353.jpg

donk
16th February 2013, 14:56
I feel yurkee

donk
16th February 2013, 15:04
So sorry you couldn't work it out, donk... Hope this isnt going to be too hard on the kids.

Thanks...that's exactly what it's about though..."working it out" should not come before kids. It has for months, if not longer. Have to keep remembering that, so easy to get sucked into her feelings.

No more. That means getting sucked into her drama. Trauma she refuses heal, problems she won't face, habits she doesn't wanna give up.

I need to find out how to teach children about codependency. It's probably the worst of preventable diseases.