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astrid
8th March 2013, 13:52
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Brilliant


Random acts of veggies...

ulli
8th March 2013, 14:00
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002345209/812889916_good_day_graphics_08_xlarge.gif#good%20morning

Going to the city today, M's therapy. I leave early and get back to pick up kids from school, barely. I will, today, turn back around and take Little One to his Mommy's for the weekend. Things are ever so slowly progressing there. He is excited, and misses his mom and his "dad." That one won't come out of my mouth, I find it repulsive at this point. I'm working on it. Though excited, he does tend to act out when visits get close. Last night I had to walk out of the house to keep from losing my temper, but I didn't make it before I raised my voice...too much. That happens, I am learning, when I'm really tired. I came back in, and Little One was sitting on the floor in the kitchen. I was a little surprised, but he explained that he had sat himself in time out for what he had done, for hurting me. I guess I'm doing something right. No violence is such a basic rule for our household that it gets frustrating when it appears to not be understood, much less followed.

Keeping this in the forefront of my mind today:

http://icraved.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/vidya-sury-small-things-709939.jpg

I was going to say "I'm trying to..." then thought of Yoda. hahaha

Much Love,

Yoda is not the ultimate authority.
Maybe in a battle zone it's about all or nothing,
but everywhere else to try means to not barge in and destroy what has been built before...
It means cautious hesitation, while taking in the overall environment first, and proceed gently.
It means not being like an elephant in a china shop.

1inMany
8th March 2013, 14:20
Yoda is not the ultimate authority.
Maybe in a battle zone it's about all or nothing,
but everywhere else to try means to not barge in and destroy what has been built before...
It means cautious hesitation, while taking in the overall environment first, and proceed gently.
It means not being like an elephant in a china shop.

True, Ulli. But also, the word "try" means that I might fail. I've been sort of going back and forth with the idea of perfection lately, of trying versus doing. While on some level of existence I (we) might be absolutely perfect, incapable of making any type of mistake or falling short of any goal in any way, this human experience is full trips and falls.

Remember when I had a holy cow moment over stating something out loud, not thinking anything of it, and then was blown away by all the ripples that caused? It was when M's friends were coming for the weekend and I set the boundary about the weapons and drugs. Well, that showed me that words, spoken out loud especially, might be more powerful than I had previously realized. If words are that powerful and important, I would surely like to say "I will do" rather than "I will try." However, if I say I am going to try, and I do try, I succeed. Possibility for success only.

So, on the one hand you have inevitable mistakes and on the other you have setting an intention to only succeed.

You would think I'm Libran for all the back and forth I do. haha

Much Love,

donk
8th March 2013, 15:28
I realized that the author of some of my most favorite ideas is one I can NOT read at all: Philip K Dick

His style is so hard for me to get into, I keep going back and trying, and he's just not my cup of tea...but the movies made from his work are some of my favorties:

Blade Runner
Adjustment Bureau
Total Recall (though I have not gotten to see the new one yet)
and what I watched last night: A Scanner Darkly

au9QGjHkvYo

I watched Minority Report only once when it first came out, when I was not really into the ideas though I need to revisit now...i kinda bought into the critic and word on of mouth on that one, which usually means it's a good flick just beyond those with little imagination or much fear

I would think with ideas and themes I totally resonate with, I would devour his books like I do Herbert or Asimov....I just can't though.

Back on a Scanner Darkly, it reminded me of the other movie done with rotoscoping (I love that technique) that I need to revisit, an old favorite "Waking Life"

uk2DeTet98o

The other connection is that they are both directed by Richard Linklater (who did Dazed & Confused, another favorite)

Interestingly: both feature Alex Jones, playing pretty much himself...

ulli
8th March 2013, 17:08
Yoda is not the ultimate authority.
Maybe in a battle zone it's about all or nothing,
but everywhere else to try means to not barge in and destroy what has been built before...
It means cautious hesitation, while taking in the overall environment first, and proceed gently.
It means not being like an elephant in a china shop.

True, Ulli. But also, the word "try" means that I might fail. I've been sort of going back and forth with the idea of perfection lately, of trying versus doing. While on some level of existence I (we) might be absolutely perfect, incapable of making any type of mistake or falling short of any goal in any way, this human experience is full trips and falls.

Remember when I had a holy cow moment over stating something out loud, not thinking anything of it, and then was blown away by all the ripples that caused? It was when M's friends were coming for the weekend and I set the boundary about the weapons and drugs. Well, that showed me that words, spoken out loud especially, might be more powerful than I had previously realized. If words are that powerful and important, I would surely like to say "I will do" rather than "I will try." However, if I say I am going to try, and I do try, I succeed. Possibility for success only.

So, on the one hand you have inevitable mistakes and on the other you have setting an intention to only succeed.

You would think I'm Libran for all the back and forth I do. haha

Much Love,

I once was told by someone in the know about the difference between a Japanese car worker
and a Detroit car worker and what happens when they drop a spanner a couple of times in a row.

The Detroit car worker gets mad at himself and curses before he picks it up again.
If it happens a second time he curses even louder and harder.
By the time he does it a third time he kicks the car with his foot, putting a dent in it.
The Japanese car worker picks up the spanner and continues working.
He drops it twice...he picks up the spanner and continues working...
He drops it a third time...he picks up the spanner and continues working.

Maybe some would call the Japanese car worker robotic...perhaps so.
But maybe the robot label is nothing more than an excuse and justification for negative emotion.

Just musing here.

donk
8th March 2013, 19:34
My energy is all over the place today...

...then before, and now once more, I'm bouncing round the room

dCDZDPdF26Y

The first time I seen these guys I was a hater...having never tolerated any "jam" bands...they did this as a finale--Trey & Mike on trampolines, right before a vacuum solo by Fishman, the day I got dragged, the last day of high school.

It was at the Mann Music Center in '05 (you could buy a ticket at the box office for a fair price at that relatively small venue at the time) the day "A Live One" came out...life changing experience.

Haven't listened to them too much lately, nor could I find a vid with them on the tramp--but this is a good version...if you don't smile at this song, well, you need your heart examined...

donk
8th March 2013, 19:41
Heh...did I say aught-five? I meant '95, of course!

Just looked up the set list, god that was a fun show. Was the first time I actually truly "danced"...let the music my body.

sheme
8th March 2013, 20:21
I am enjoying Crufts!

ulli
8th March 2013, 20:28
I just watched this TED talk about wearing second hand clothes.
Since my days as a fashion designer I have enjoyed shopping in thrift stores more
than in normal retail outlets, and most of my designer friends were like me.
Once in a while I might shop at a Saint-Laurent sale, but when you manufacture clothes you don't buy retail.
Here in Costa Rica we have huge second hand shops which are called Ropa Americana. They used to be called Ropa Usada, but since they came via containers from the US, someone painted their sign with the word USAda which means used, in the colors of the US flag.
Then the next guy changed the word USAda to Americana, and even though you can find items made in Paris and Milan, they are now always called ROPA AMERICANA.

I buy clothes and linen there...nearly every sheet and pillow I buy is Ralph Lauren, none cost me more than two or three dollars. My clothes are also top designer labels, in Costa Rica I stick mainly to black, and in Barbados I wear a lot of white, beige or pastels. Nothing like the girl in the TED talk.

Anyway, just thought I'd share that here. Spending money on expensive clothes is as silly as buying a brand new car...

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/enlightened-simplicity/wearing-nothing-new-jessi-arrington.html

RunningDeer
8th March 2013, 20:38
21"/53 cm of snow so far and slowly winding down.... This story is getting old. Good news is that with each passing storm, that's one less to shovel. Lots of different birds on my deck. Even the spring birds have come to dine. All taking turns with their seed dinner.

Twice, when I shoveled, 5 geese honked on by. The first time, I reminded myself that it's our number in the Now, and in the ‘Village,’ and in these times.

So here are some random sentences for those that may want to consider the possibilities. I for one do because 5 is my life lesson number:

Many changes occur, and your mission might well be to promote progress through a willingness to accept change.
You are willing to adopt new concepts and new points of understanding, even to the extent of daring to claim the liberty to suggest new ways of doing things.
Propose new ideas to promote enlightenment; you have the courage and willingness to let go of the old and experiment with the new.

Random sentences for Geese:

Time of good fortune and be receptive to all good things that come to you.
Even though it may not always seem so, you are always protected.
You possess an innate wisdom here on Mother Earth and know how to make the best in most situations.

:wave:

@ Donk, I just read your '5' reference.

RunningDeer
8th March 2013, 20:55
From a journal page:

I hit some metaphoric speed bumps a few weeks back. In the end, it brought me to a place of inner knowing that all is fine. And that I/We just have to catch up with it. Some have already, others are in process, and the rest must awaken to their respective decisions.

This is true for me: these times are an opportunity to see how mighty, courageous, and Light, we are already. Some need concrete proof while others are slowing opening to it.

Doubt is what pulls me back into non-belief. I catch myself before those thoughts have a chance to fully unveil. Then, I feel a subtle, quick successive vibration in the body, affirming this awareness.

Some moments, I feel like I grabbed the gold ring to be here at this time; then I see it’s by design.

Conchis
8th March 2013, 20:56
I'm laying here on my back, coughing, running a fever and feeling like I was dragged around behind the tractor for a while. Sheesh. Sure was a long day out there in the shop.

ulli
8th March 2013, 21:14
I'm laying here on my back, coughing, running a fever and feeling like I was dragged around behind the tractor for a while. Sheesh. Sure was a long day out there in the shop.

Oh dear. I hope you feel better soon.
If you think of it as a purging then it might not be such an awful experience.
Anyway, Im sending healing energies to you. Don't forget to drink lots of fluids...
lemonade without sugar or sweetener is best...honey is ok though.

donk
8th March 2013, 21:17
@ Donk, I just read your '5' reference.

You mean my 10 year time warp?

You know you're starting to get old when you can "be off" by a decade. Sheesh!

Conchis I hope you feel better...

RunningDeer
8th March 2013, 21:34
I'm laying here on my back, coughing, running a fever and feeling like I was dragged around behind the tractor for a while. Sheesh. Sure was a long day out there in the shop.


Sending in a buddy to sit by your side, Conchis.
Don't be fooled by the small cuteness.
Lots of power in this package.

Feel Light and Warmth wash over and through you.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Angels/doggie.GIF

ulli
8th March 2013, 21:38
Ten years ago I was studying the Wingmakers materials and I just revisited one of their sites and came across this affirmation:
"I am forever connected to my brothers and sisters of all time and space.
What is known by them I can know. What is found by them I can find.
What is to come from them I can be.
In all that I do may the mind of many hold sway over the mind of one."

donk
8th March 2013, 21:47
Ten years ago I was convinced societal collapse was gonna happen in that here & now. I was immersed in politics and economics, trying to understand this non-sensical way of life that was created and no one seemed to have a problem going along with. And I was eagerly awaiting 5pm to get to the bar and start crushing Tanqueray and Tonics at an alarming rate.

Ten years before that, I was in high school, miserable, not understanding what exactly it was this way of life that was forced on me, counting the days to my freedom...spending most of my energy attempting to acquire what would end up enslaving me: cigs, booze, bud, and butt...

PurpleLama
8th March 2013, 22:04
I realized that the author of some of my most favorite ideas is one I can NOT read at all: Philip K Dick

His style is so hard for me to get into, I keep going back and trying, and he's just not my cup of tea...but the movies made from his work are some of my favorties:

Blade Runner
Adjustment Bureau
Total Recall (though I have not gotten to see the new one yet)
and what I watched last night: A Scanner Darkly

au9QGjHkvYo

I watched Minority Report only once when it first came out, when I was not really into the ideas though I need to revisit now...i kinda bought into the critic and word on of mouth on that one, which usually means it's a good flick just beyond those with little imagination or much fear

I would think with ideas and themes I totally resonate with, I would devour his books like I do Herbert or Asimov....I just can't though.

Back on a Scanner Darkly, it reminded me of the other movie done with rotoscoping (I love that technique) that I need to revisit, an old favorite "Waking Life"

uk2DeTet98o

The other connection is that they are both directed by Richard Linklater (who did Dazed & Confused, another favorite)

Interestingly: both feature Alex Jones, playing pretty much himself...

Oh, man, I love me some Dick. Radio Free Albemuth, Valis, and the Divine Invasion are perhaps three of the most important novels written in the twentieth century. Downright prophetic, if you ask me.

Fred Steeves
8th March 2013, 22:16
Oh, man, I love me some Dick.

Never mind...I just can't do it...(LOL) :tape2:

Fred wanders away to pop a fresh cold one.

dan33
8th March 2013, 22:34
The fantastic japanese anime. So many good movies like Ghost in the Shell

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HCQ-QBH_G8A/SdkYKOq097I/AAAAAAAACJc/_VyCxwJ1-lM/s320/inoncence.jpg


PAPRIKA is another one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZKXXNCkrf4

...and another "anime" -at that time it was- breaking colors from the beginning. Tv series like "Dallas" originated from this film.
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donk
8th March 2013, 22:38
Never mind...I just can't do it...(LOL)


It's sure was tough for me too......good restraint Fred (this is a "family" thread, after all)...but damn, REILLY, talk about one of these:



http://d2om8tvz4lgco4.cloudfront.net/archive/x1602165214/g12c0000000000000001e7b3611944ede8a25576466d5c494dd210ea79f.jpg



Who's gonna knock that one outa the village??

astrid
8th March 2013, 23:16
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What an amazing woman
bless her.

Flash
9th March 2013, 04:18
today I went to the acupunctor for my daughter, with constipation problems, and for me with general problems lol.

She first did a general overview of me and put needles all over for different functions. Usual acupuncture.

Then she check some points on my inner thighs and pushed on hurting ones. She told me by blood circulation was not good, the flow not ok, and took some points mostly on my feet and some on my arm, on one side only, put needles and made them vibrate.

I am not kidding, my whole body reacted lighting up like a christmas tree. I could feel the currents working through and where there were energetic bumps and blocks. Once finished, she retouched (hand, not needles) the point in the thighs and they would not hurt anylonger.

She had told me that I would be very tired after the treatment and that tomorrow I would fell like a truck has run over me, but Sunday I would be filled with energy.

Well, on the way back home, i was getting tired, I had to stop at the pharmacy and as I was waiting to be served, I was laying on the counter thinking "hope this will be fast, I can't hold myself, god i have to get home, I can't hold myself".

I came back home, had a tiny bite, sat on the couch and went to sleep, on the couch. I had a few phone calls, I would hear my daughter answer that I could not come because I was sleeping (they must have found it weird, at 5 PM) then would dive back into deep sleep. I woke up around 10 pm. I am sure to have a full night.

The acupunctor said this was a Japanese tehcnique of acupuncture that was extremely efficient. You bet.

Now, a little something for a laugh, that may dauhgter showed me:

http://www.funforrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/99sh-a.jpg

Flash
9th March 2013, 04:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSAgs-exfQ&feature=youtube_gdata_playerHaving problems posting from iPad, so my son just helped me via a phone. Anyway this vid is a thank you for all the help and healing sent for my sis. It's truly beautiful. You may need tissues!


Priceless, Lisab! My new desktop picture.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/baby3_zpsf9e26a51.jpg

Thank you for posting these. I am happy for you and all your family for this new being. This is so touching. I cannot believe I missed those precious moments of first care and light with my daughter, having been put asleep for a cesarean (yes, after 30 hours of labor, the rachidian paralysis did not work, they were going to cut me open when I felt everything and I begged to be put asleep. I had toxemia, high blood pressure, I lost so much blood that it took a full year to come back from it). So I could not see my daughter's first hour. Wish I did.

I am happy to see your nephew's. It gives an idea of the experience those little ones have.

Flash
9th March 2013, 05:37
this is a talent show in Quebec called la voix - the voice.

Listen to her voice, much undertone of Piaf. She is only 19, Valérie Carpentier


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBsN5RiYYvE

here she was fifteen

just incredible


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIeR4x9Se5Q

Rocky_Shorz
9th March 2013, 07:33
remember that day I said, I would never love again, and suddenly I had a date?

well um, it's been awesome, but now she has gifts opening, we didn't expect, she's a nurse, and one night I woke to her voice, she was sitting up in bed, talking to someone...

"If you wandered around long enough to find me, Dude, I'm a nurse, a band aid won't help..."

she said you need to talk with dave...

I said just have him walk towards the light...

she said wow, watching intensely, then snuggled up and asked how I brought the light...

I chuckled saying just a dream as she fell back asleep...

just a coincidence... ;)

Kraut
9th March 2013, 08:51
remember that day I said, I would never love again, and suddenly I had a date?

well um, it's been awesome, but now she has gifts opening, we didn't expect, she's a nurse, and one night I woke to her voice, she was sitting up in bed, talking to someone...

"If you wandered around long enough to find me, Dude, I'm a nurse, a band aid won't help..."

she said you need to talk with dave...

I said just have him walk towards the light...

she said wow, watching intensely, then snuggled up and asked how I brought the light...

I chuckled saying just a dream as she fell back asleep...

just a coincidence... ;)

Sounds great, very exciting.

Perhaps I should try "I will never love again" as an affirmation then? :lol:

Best wishes,
-Kraut

Rocky_Shorz
9th March 2013, 09:01
remember that day I said, I would never love again, and suddenly I had a date?

well um, it's been awesome, but now she has gifts opening, we didn't expect, she's a nurse, and one night I woke to her voice, she was sitting up in bed, talking to someone...

"If you wandered around long enough to find me, Dude, I'm a nurse, a band aid won't help..."

she said you need to talk with dave...

I said just have him walk towards the light...

she said wow, watching intensely, then snuggled up and asked how I brought the light...

I chuckled saying just a dream as she fell back asleep...

just a coincidence... ;)

Sounds great, very exciting.

Perhaps I should try "I will never love again" as an affirmation then? :lol:

Best wishes,
-Kraut

there is so much heart in this village, when I said, that's it, never again, they all gathered knowing better and pulled back a relation from reincarnations before...

still watching everything rolling by the screen, but wanted to pop in to say hi... and thanks...

Lisab
9th March 2013, 09:26
@flash..lol it's not my nephew! Paula has somehow used the pictures from the video I posted as her screensaver. It's my fault, I should have explained the video. I don't often get to post them and was a bit hasty. Anyway the video is about a French baby spa run by a lady called Sonia rochel who uses healing water and massage therapy on newborns. The video is beautiful.

Samsara
9th March 2013, 12:04
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Bonjour beauty full people! I've been busy, busy, busy and loving it. I'm leaving shortly for my volunteer work and then coming home this afternoon for a well deserved break. I think I will play outside a bit. The sun is shining ! yéééé ! It's been a while since I've seen you Galarneau !

ulli
9th March 2013, 14:58
I love this...
The power of music...wow.

PSpoMWQRCiU

RunningDeer
9th March 2013, 16:23
I love this...
The power of music...wow.


PSpoMWQRCiU

Sniff.... Bless you, Andy. :wave:

Ol' Roy
9th March 2013, 21:14
I know here is my dumb as "sometimes", technolgy challenged.

I would actually start a tread, even in my 60 + nature.


Paul has showed me several times, as well as my daughter!

Subject matter, HARRP. Just had a thought on that! Harrp my be actually pushing the Magnet North west possibly slowing it down. From a max of 40 km per year. I guess we will find out! That is my extreme hypothesis. Anyway, that is what I'm hoping. No magnetic pollar shift.

You know what, I am really confused. One part on the video, that Earth doesn't do a magnetic pollar shift, but every 800,000 years. Then they say every 3,000 years. I think,I misunderstood! A magnetic shift to me does not mean a complete physical shift of the poles.

I know Amerzon and Carmody and many others have threads on this!

Please contradict me if you want. Start a new post as it distracts from the here and now! Sorry!

1inMany
9th March 2013, 21:44
I know here is my dumb as "sometimes", technolgy challenged.

I would actually start a tread, even in my 60 + nature.


Paul has showed me several times, as well as my daughter!

Subject matter, HARRP. Just had a thought on that! Harrp my be actually pushing the Magnet North west possibly slowing it down. From a max of 40 km per year. I guess we will find out! That is my extreme hypothesis. Anyway, that is what I'm hoping. No magnetic pollar shift.

You know what, I am really confused. One part on the video, that Earth doesn't do a magnetic pollar shift, but every 800,000 years. Then they say every 3,000 years. I think,I misunderstood! A magnetic shift to me does not mean a complete physical shift of the poles.

I know Amerzon and Carmody and many others have threads on this!

Please contradict me if you want. Start a new post as it distracts from the here and now! Sorry!

Oh my gosh. This is your here and now, and I thank you for sharing it. That's what makes this a wonderful village.

Ulli, that harmonica man video...I had goose bumps and sniffles the whole time. What a special, special man. Truly an inspiration.

Much Love,

dan33
9th March 2013, 22:27
Finally, HEART BEAT is on line. Masterpiece. Jack Kerouak, Carol and Neal Cassady.
A5axuy_hjCw.

yukondiva
9th March 2013, 23:55
My vision, sense of smell,taste and hearing are so strong it's painful. Anyone else have this issue? It's been two weeks of rain and today I saw the sun, it was blinding. Then I had a peice of cake that was so sweet I thought for sure I would hurl, and I love sweets. Any advice on how to control these senses? This has been an issue for some time, but now it's getting to be very annoying.

Carmody
10th March 2013, 01:44
Dive deeper into their expansion. But..maybe that's just me.

ulli
10th March 2013, 01:48
My vision, sense of smell,taste and hearing are so strong it's painful. Anyone else have this issue? It's been two weeks of rain and today I saw the sun, it was blinding. Then I had a peice of cake that was so sweet I thought for sure I would hurl, and I love sweets. Any advice on how to control these senses? This has been an issue for some time, but now it's getting to be very annoying.

After twenty plus years on pharma which deadened your senses you are coming alive at last.
Welcome to planet earth and rebirth. Just take it easy for a while, and look at the bright side.
(With sun shades)

Alexis
10th March 2013, 10:16
Hi ! I was so sad this morning since I listen this song...
Now I'm happy, with big smile on my face. Why I was so sad, I don't remember now
d-diB65scQU
Peace !

araucaria
10th March 2013, 12:16
I love this...
The power of music...wow.

PSpoMWQRCiU

There's nothing wrong with that guy's heart, unless it's so big it's rubbing up against his ribcage.

Kraut
10th March 2013, 12:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qgBE5UKGc

:bounce:

astrid
10th March 2013, 12:27
That Harmonica man clip, not available here, weird.

Here and now, interesting energetics last few days,
very restless, and yes also hypersensitive, well more so than usual that is.

Last few days my mouth has been very sensitive,
and i have not done anything different as far as diet goes.

So started oil- pulling again , in case something is brewing,
the change in seasons can be a more high risk time for colds
and flus, etc.. I tend to feel early signs of illness in my throat first.

Also noticing more extreme polarities, everywhere i look,
and how natural this all seems in the scheme of things.
The deeper i dig into my own shadow the greater my capacity
to then experience joy becomes. And being removed from the
mainstream is taking on new heights, its a bit like going onto a
film set, engaging in that world now. I half expect a director to
yell "cut" or to look behind a building and see that its just a facade
propped up with sticks. Things that used to hold my interest are
abandoned as either a total waste of time, or being in some way
part of the problem, which is problematic as sometimes things just have to get done regardless.
But there is a sense of how urgent and crucial it is to discern what is important from what is not.
Something like that.

ulli
10th March 2013, 13:04
I sent this to someone via PM the other day, and wanted to share it publicly, but then I forgot.
Came across it again just now while cleaning up my PM box:


There are two main reasons for people not attaining their hearts desire
the first is the divided self...one part wants to do it and the other part subverts all plans...
also called auto sabotage.
Self knowledge helps one decide which of the two one wishes to be.

The second reason is fear...not fear of failure, but fear of success.
With success a whole new ball game opens up,
while with failure one simply returns to what's known already,
which is an attractive option.

So one needs to start to dream...what one wants to do in case of success...
how to use that new freedom...the possibilities which come with success and money.
So once these things are understood one can be on one's way.

ulli
10th March 2013, 13:47
As someone who helped scientist Eric Dollard after Carmody endorsed him as the real deal, I receive updates now and this just came in this morning:

Epic Win Approaching !

We’re close to a new phase for Operation Eric Dollard.

Eric’s new Lab, The People’s Lab is coming and nothing can stop it. Everyday is it getting new gear and new repairs. Nothing can stop this and nothing will, God willing. WE all did this together. Eric is excited and working hard on putting things together.

The team is converging on the Lab soon to push things even faster. We’ll be working hard to organize all the volunteers and offers of gear. We want to use every single penny you guys have put into this wisely and with great respect.

Today is the San Francisco Tesla Society Tech Meeting. This is a chance for another victory for us. George Gadbhoury has promised to send the tapes to us and also said he would have copies of the dvd’s to give away at the meeting. Let’s see if he keeps his word.

Ask politely for the dvd’s of all 16 hours of Eric’s footage and promise that it will be made public for the team to edit. Whoever is going to be there please keep a camera on him and also on the group (US). If he tries to make excuses and pops pity ploys just be patient and firm and keep asking for the tapes. WE must not relent until the tapes are in hand. Ignore any guilt trips he pulls and focus on the prize.

Once the tapes are in hand the first order of business will be to upload them. Youtube is a good choice. We can then all get it from there and I shall begin editing them if need be. The more we spread this knowledge around the better. Let the best edited versions rise to the top.

These 16 hours of footage represent some of the most suppressed knowledge in history, the truth about electricity, which is why they don’t ever want them released. We will get them and make it available for the whole world to see, God willing.

This is the beginning of something BIG, far bigger than any one of us, bigger than Tesla, bigger than Eric, even bigger than Electricity or science itself. We’ve all got front row seats too. Let’s enjoy the ride , cause it’s been awesome so far and we’re just getting warmed up.

I AM PROUD to be with all of you on this. You’re all MY HEROES

Carmody
10th March 2013, 14:13
Dive deeper into their expansion. But..maybe that's just me.


Lost an old one (video/tune), here is the new version, even better (HD):

_h85IN-UIxY

1inMany
10th March 2013, 14:40
Good morning.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pPJAh6Rsr7g/T3nYsUymwwI/AAAAAAAAWwc/YDjm7-FFhrE/s1600/Good+Morning+Quotes+Sunday+%286%29.jpg

Today, I have to remember to turn the clocks ahead. Or, I suppose, I could do like Maxine :)

https://www.debtproofliving.com/Portals/0/Blog/images/2008/03/max03-10-08.thumbnail.jpg

It's spring break! Got the shelves about half full, got my stress and worry down to about zero. Love that math. Going to the city for a few days, wish me luck on staying strong and keeping all that energy there at a manageable level in my body. Going to museums and the rain forest cafe this week. So excited!

Much Love to All,

ulli
10th March 2013, 14:47
Good morning.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pPJAh6Rsr7g/T3nYsUymwwI/AAAAAAAAWwc/YDjm7-FFhrE/s1600/Good+Morning+Quotes+Sunday+%286%29.jpg

Today, I have to remember to turn the clocks ahead. Or, I suppose, I could do like Maxine :)

https://www.debtproofliving.com/Portals/0/Blog/images/2008/03/max03-10-08.thumbnail.jpg

It's spring break! Got the shelves about half full, got my stress and worry down to about zero. Love that math. Going to the city for a few days, wish me luck on staying strong and keeping all that energy there at a manageable level in my body. Going to museums and the rain forest cafe this week. So excited!

Much Love to All,


Rain forest cafe? Hey, you can imagine you are visiting me in Costa Rica.
I've got the rain, I've got the forest and I've got tons of coffee.

meeradas
10th March 2013, 15:01
1. John Brennan Sworn in as CIA Director Using Constitution Lacking Bill of Rights (http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/03/08/john-brennan-sworn-in-as-cia-director-using-constitution-lacking-bill-of-rights/)

2. 8mWW6kRITEY

This post could also have gone into the "Theories of the deep understanding..." or "Odd music" threads - and fit.

ulli
10th March 2013, 15:04
Just watched this...about 40,000 year old ivory carvings shown at the British Museum.
I particularly love the lion man...apparently 400 hours of work in that.
Cat lovers seem to have been around forever....

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/art/ice-age-art.html

Kraut
10th March 2013, 15:05
Due to a conversation I had with an acquaintance yesterday I had to think of a humorous saying on t-shirts here. The saying is "ich werde nicht älter, ich werde besser". Translated it means "I'm not getting older, I'm getting better". I like the saying, often I feel annoyed that in our superficial society youth is equated with beauty and that many feel they are no longer beautiful when they grow older. That's nonsense. I wish people would throw that silly notion out the nearest window, preferably from the tenth story.

Why I'm thinking about that when I'm still relatively young? :lol: No idea, I tend to think about lots of stuff and observe and listen to what others say and what's on their minds. It's interesting. And sometimes a bit maddening too, when you see how many are burdened by all these stupid ideas being put in our minds.

ulli
10th March 2013, 19:07
Bridge structurally supported by balloons:

http://i.imgur.com/4LSYsmI.jpg

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...and more silliness:

http://i.imgur.com/WAEFp18.jpg

ulli
10th March 2013, 19:13
and one more:

http://i.imgur.com/UaJhxJS.jpg

Flash
10th March 2013, 19:17
and one more:

http://i.imgur.com/UaJhxJS.jpg

good way to give a comment to hiding smoking husband. Next time he goes out at night and see the message, guilt may catch his smoking breath. lol Next time she will put the picture of the street tom cat, message clear lol lol

eaglespirit
10th March 2013, 21:47
Love to the Village on this Beautiful Sunday : )

Well, I've been in Peru for two weeks and it seems like two months, haha!

Getting a home back on track with minimal Spanish has been interesting... have found plenty of help(including Folks from the English School here) and am learning fast.

Had my left front eye tooth finally come out fully when I bit into a hard apple...and it sure came out, exposed the root and felt like it created a canal to my nasal passage..ggeeessshhhh!
This too shall pass and all is well, though : ) Just send me a 'live-in' translator for a while, ok? : )

Darn good thing I'm a master carpenter/builder...cuz it sure does help put an acceleration to the workings here : )
That in itself is a 'motivation' to the crew when creation and alteration starts to happen before their eyes...
in the blink of : ) : ) : )

I will share some pics of the "casa" in the future at Here and Now...a beautiful location it is, in the mountain.

Bye for now...and Love, Love, Love, Here and Now!

WhiteFeather
10th March 2013, 21:48
I'm Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, And Recharging me batteries,,,,,Afternoon Villagers. Just made some Sauce for the Macaroni. It's an Italian Ding. And It doesn't get better than this, in my vortex. Ahhhh!!!!! Hope all are doing just the same.

https://www.altacucinaitalia.com/myblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sugo-pomodoro-fresco.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD60R51V08U&list=UUPbOVKsvoz_J03FtAfAdmOg&index=10

Dennis Leahy
10th March 2013, 22:32
Like a reformed chemtrail jet pilot, I'm flying overhead, dropping healing energy, love bombs, sociopathy antidote, anti-despair nano particles, Cheshire grins, and warm sunshine.

:~)

Dennis

astrid
10th March 2013, 23:54
hnTmBjk-M0c

astrid
11th March 2013, 00:06
Who here has chooks??

I am so doing this..

GlyV8fA6R_Q

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 01:02
Had my left front eye tooth finally come out fully when I bit into a hard apple...and it sure came out, exposed the root and felt like it created a canal to my nasal passage..ggeeessshhhh!

Just send me a 'live-in' translator for a while, ok? : )

Bye for now...and Love, Love, Love, Here and Now!

Hello Dan, the Eagle Man,

I wished I had more practical suggestions. I'm sending Love, Love, Love...


"Offline Translator for iPhones and iPads" (http://www.idiomax.com/iphone-translator.aspx)

Stuck for a word or phrase in a foreign language? Mobile Translator for iPhone and iPad gives you on-the-spot help. The iOS translator lets you read websites and other documents in another language, no matter where you are... in the car, bus, train or plane. Between classes or meetings. Between home and work. Anywhere, anytime.

L,
P'er


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Eagle_Spirit_zpsa3bbe819.jpg

ulli
11th March 2013, 02:00
A friend of ours just uploaded this video of the festival of Orosi today...
which we unfortunately missed due to sickness.
He decided to change the sound a bit. (Thank God!, lol)

X7uFHOjyRh4

ulli
11th March 2013, 02:07
Love to the Village on this Beautiful Sunday : )

Well, I've been in Peru for two weeks and it seems like two months, haha!

Getting a home back on track with minimal Spanish has been interesting... have found plenty of help(including Folks from the English School here) and am learning fast.

Had my left front eye tooth finally come out fully when I bit into a hard apple...and it sure came out, exposed the root and felt like it created a canal to my nasal passage..ggeeessshhhh!
This too shall pass and all is well, though : ) Just send me a 'live-in' translator for a while, ok? : )

Darn good thing I'm a master carpenter/builder...cuz it sure does help put an acceleration to the workings here : )
That in itself is a 'motivation' to the crew when creation and alteration starts to happen before their eyes...
in the blink of : ) : ) : )

I will share some pics of the "casa" in the future at Here and Now...a beautiful location it is, in the mountain.

Bye for now...and Love, Love, Love, Here and Now!


Looking forward to seeing the pictures of the casita terminada, Eaglespirit.
Sorry about your tooth...
by the way, I learnt most of my Spanish from Nicaraguan construction workers
most of whom had missing front teeth.

LOVE LOVE LOVE

ulli
11th March 2013, 02:42
The Wimshurst Machine...Italian Ambient band of 8 members....
anyone here remember the old Garageband site, which sadly closed down....

Y8S2nNHIgq4

eaglespirit
11th March 2013, 02:56
Thank You Paula and Ulli : )

Yes Paula, I may get a hold of an Iphone...been thinking about it for translation on the spot. I am getting by with Friends and determination. Heck...I hadn't touched a mobile phone for years until the one I have now to take care of business down here.

Yep Ulli..there is already a rather unspoken "construction" understanding with me and the workers that were/are here at the house. They've gotten to know me real quick : )

My compulsive/obsessive builder personality has kicked in : ) This house is lllooonnnngggg overdue for finalization!

Thanks!

yukondiva
11th March 2013, 02:59
Ok since we seem to be a little cat based on this thread,I will tell you the story of the first time I met a tiger.

Many moons ago before I was a zookeeper, we were at a persons compound. Ron was a big guy six five and three hundred and something pounds. When we got to his place I immediatly noticed the tigers, lions and Jaguars. But mostly one tiger whose name was Targa. He was a seven hundred and fifty pound siberan tiger he was giant and so pretty with such large eyes, I was instantly hypnotized by his presence.

Being that this was a private compound you could get really close, and I did. I had never been so close to such a large and magnificent animal.
He was so beautiful.
I was staring at him when Ron came over and said "would you like to pet him"? I said yes oh yes. ( still do not know where that came from, it was like I was dreaming)So Ron whips out his giant key ring and proceeds to open the door. He motions for me to come into the cage, and he latches the door behind him.

The tiger comes over and starts rubbing against us his head is almost level with mine, he's so large it's hard for me to hold my balance as he leans against us,Ron says "don't be scared he's a baby. The next thing I know Im plunging my hands thru his thick oily fur, when I hear him making like a little coughing sound. Seeing the look on my face Ron says" he's purring" he likes you. In fact what he was doing was buffing, at least thats what we called it. Tigers can't purr so they make a sound like buuhhhfff.
After some dreamy minutes of petting the tiger, the tiger decides to grab my foot to try and take me down, so Ron recommended we leave. Eventually Targa came to live with me and we had many happy years together. When I wanted to freak people out I would put a peice of chicken or beef in my mouth and Targa would take it from my lips as gentle as a kitten. Targa had children and I raised them too. But he was and will always be the first Cat I ever loved.

eaglespirit
11th March 2013, 03:11
Beautiful Tiger Sharing, Yukondiva : )

Carmody
11th March 2013, 03:12
Today, I have to remember to turn the clocks ahead. Or, I suppose, I could do like Maxine :)

https://www.debtproofliving.com/Portals/0/Blog/images/2008/03/max03-10-08.thumbnail.jpg

Much Love to All,

There is always one clock in the house that I never change. It is right, about half the year, I guess. Hhmmm. I think it just got corrected.

ulli
11th March 2013, 03:12
http://i.imgur.com/YOktS.jpg

P.S. Loved your tiger story, Yukondiva.

yukondiva
11th March 2013, 03:13
By Eaglespirit......Love to the Village on this Beautiful Sunday : )

Well, I've been in Peru for two weeks and it seems like two months, haha!

Getting a home back on track with minimal Spanish has been interesting... have found plenty of help(including Folks from the English School here) and am learning fast.

Eaglespirit/// I would highly recomend Pons offline translator for when you don't have internet access, it has every word youll ever need.

yukondiva
11th March 2013, 03:21
Tune in tomorrow for when I had a tiger by the tail. Now thats a tale.

Chester
11th March 2013, 03:43
Due to a conversation I had with an acquaintance yesterday I had to think of a humorous saying on t-shirts here. The saying is "ich werde nicht älter, ich werde besser". Translated it means "I'm not getting older, I'm getting better". I like the saying, often I feel annoyed that in our superficial society youth is equated with beauty and that many feel they are no longer beautiful when they grow older. That's nonsense. I wish people would throw that silly notion out the nearest window, preferably from the tenth story.

Why I'm thinking about that when I'm still relatively young? :lol: No idea, I tend to think about lots of stuff and observe and listen to what others say and what's on their minds. It's interesting. And sometimes a bit maddening too, when you see how many are burdened by all these stupid ideas being put in our minds.

I find everyone more and more beautiful every day.

... and, "Yes," to the maddening part.

araucaria
11th March 2013, 07:26
http://i.imgur.com/YOktS.jpg

P.S. Loved your tiger story, Yukondiva.

This is supposed to be the symbolims of the Maya ball game.

I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(

Kraut
11th March 2013, 08:58
Like a reformed chemtrail jet pilot, I'm flying overhead, dropping healing energy, love bombs, sociopathy antidote, anti-despair nano particles, Cheshire grins, and warm sunshine.

:~)

Dennis
Could you make a detour to my area? ;)


hnTmBjk-M0c
That's too funny, I was watching some episodes of Season 2 yesterday and the day before. "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition", cracks me up every time.

Samsara
11th March 2013, 11:50
Anyone notice the google doodle this morning ? :confused:

http://cdn.ndtv.com/tech/images/douglas_adams_google_doodle.jpg

Douglas Adams, celebrated author and humorist, is the subject of Monday's Google doodle. Adams is best known around the world for his cult classic book The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/others/news/douglas-adams-61st-birthday-marked-by-google-doodle-340751

Things that makes you go hmmmmm :tinfoil3:

Ekon
11th March 2013, 12:21
There are birds chirping outside, and the faint noise of an airplace, the computer is warm and it's fan is loud, today it is sunny outside and a clear blue sky hugs the earth. The room is spacious and on the way to getting cozy, this new start has gonne as smoth as it could and for that i thank Mother Earth and God, for allowing me to search in me for strength and finding much more than i hoped for, for giving me this situation where i had to awaken and revise many things that had been left to luck. I am greatful now. The cold tea in the cup hold a jasmine flavor that has gone strong because the bag still rests in it... it tastes a tad bitter, i didnt put any honey nor sugar. suddenly another plane and the door slowly creeks as it opens to let a bit of light in. the ligh is on because the window is small, it doesnt bother me tho, this room is safe and loving as the earth holds it up to its waist. Yes, the sky is brigh blue.

eaglespirit
11th March 2013, 12:32
By Eaglespirit......Love to the Village on this Beautiful Sunday : )

Well, I've been in Peru for two weeks and it seems like two months, haha!

Getting a home back on track with minimal Spanish has been interesting... have found plenty of help(including Folks from the English School here) and am learning fast.

Eaglespirit/// I would highly recomend Pons offline translator for when you don't have internet access, it has every word youll ever need.

Thank You, Yukondiva : )

ulli
11th March 2013, 13:00
There are birds chirping outside, and the faint noise of an airplace, the computer is warm and it's fan is loud, today it is sunny outside and a clear blue sky hugs the earth. The room is spacious and on the way to getting cozy, this new start has gonne as smoth as it could and for that i thank Mother Earth and God, for allowing me to search in me for strength and finding much more than i hoped for, for giving me this situation where i had to awaken and revise many things that had been left to luck. I am greatful now. The cold tea in the cup hold a jasmine flavor that has gone strong because the bag still rests in it... it tastes a tad bitter, i didnt put any honey nor sugar. suddenly another plane and the door slowly creeks as it opens to let a bit of light in. the ligh is on because the window is small, it doesnt bother me tho, this room is safe and loving as the earth holds it up to its waist. Yes, the sky is brigh blue.

I love this post. Thank you, Ekon.

me, searching for a sign, coming across this today:
(as a reminder that "signs" can only appear in the Here and Now)

THIS IS IT!!!

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484656_10151548871910482_1314507868_n.jpg

ulli
11th March 2013, 13:05
http://i.imgur.com/YOktS.jpg

P.S. Loved your tiger story, Yukondiva.

This is supposed to be the symbolims of the Maya ball game.

I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(

The sun played ball in Costa Rica yesterday...first day in ages...
oh, how I've missed it.
Funny coincidence...eaglespirit posted!
(Sun always shine when eaglespirit show up).
The same eaglespirit who has taught me about sun gazing.

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 13:51
Yukondiva, you lived my dream job. Thank you for the powerful story!
Hearts,
Paula


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/tiger_medley_zps937cfcea.jpg



Ok since we seem to be a little cat based on this thread,I will tell you the story of the first time I met a tiger.

Many moons ago before I was a zookeeper, we were at a persons compound. Ron was a big guy six five and three hundred and something pounds. When we got to his place I immediatly noticed the tigers, lions and Jaguars. But mostly one tiger whose name was Targa. He was a seven hundred and fifty pound siberan tiger he was giant and so pretty with such large eyes, I was instantly hypnotized by his presence.

Being that this was a private compound you could get really close, and I did. I had never been so close to such a large and magnificent animal.
He was so beautiful.
I was staring at him when Ron came over and said "would you like to pet him"? I said yes oh yes. ( still do not know where that came from, it was like I was dreaming)So Ron whips out his giant key ring and proceeds to open the door. He motions for me to come into the cage, and he latches the door behind him.

The tiger comes over and starts rubbing against us his head is almost level with mine, he's so large it's hard for me to hold my balance as he leans against us,Ron says "don't be scared he's a baby. The next thing I know Im plunging my hands thru his thick oily fur, when I hear him making like a little coughing sound. Seeing the look on my face Ron says" he's purring" he likes you. In fact what he was doing was buffing, at least thats what we called it. Tigers can't purr so they make a sound like buuhhhfff.
After some dreamy minutes of petting the tiger, the tiger decides to grab my foot to try and take me down, so Ron recommended we leave. Eventually Targa came to live with me and we had many happy years together. When I wanted to freak people out I would put a peice of chicken or beef in my mouth and Targa would take it from my lips as gentle as a kitten. Targa had children and I raised them too. But he was and will always be the first Cat I ever loved.

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 14:32
I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/michael_jordan_zpse6178e9b.jpg

dan33
11th March 2013, 15:23
Yesterday i saw the last Almodovar's Movie. Inés and me lauhged a lot. :)


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Dennis Leahy
11th March 2013, 15:30
Thinking of Ulli, and her home turf:

(Three-toed sloth, crossing the road, in Costa Rica.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES32UFlPOUA

Dennis

Carmody
11th March 2013, 16:31
Multidimensional is a pure energy environment. we are, in those places, a knot of energy that is organized, like a kid making a thing with Lego blocks, but in this case, of energy.

We start small, and build ourselves. Into something larger, something more connected.

If we connect to others in those places, we are presented with choice. to join, or..... attempt to absorb. To connect in commonality, or to attempt to 'eat' the other. Or.. to decline to engage in both/either.

In times of peacefulness in those places, we must still maintain our organization, to 'keep it together' as it were. We connect to others and have a group mind in those commonalities, as a extra mechanism that protects or watches for the issue of others. Some part of us must be self designed to never stop being alert. Either on our own or as connected to this system of alertness and similarity.

It is not the times of 'war' (confrontation) that causes loss, but the times of peace, if and when our guard is relaxed.


Look around at this world. It is supposedly a training ground, a learning place and space AND a reflection of that dimensional energetic space.

What do you see?

yukondiva
11th March 2013, 16:33
Another memory for the village. I took a job cleaning a couples house, it was well known in our small town they were very reclusive and a little strange, so when I showed up that morning and knocked on the door the woman let me in saying " never open any door in this house without one of us with you" I chalked it up to them being a lil strange.
After four hours of nonstop cleaning, I decided to take a break. I was sitting on the sofa smoking a ciggarrette when I saw a blur fly by out of the corner of my eye. Hmmmm perhaps it was the sun shining thru the dustmotes. I continued to smoke when all of a sudden a bobcat jumped on my head.
As you can imagine lots of things were running thru my mind. First is this thing going to attack me? Second how could I get him off me without getting bit. He was perfectly balanced on my head. I remember musing about the perfect balance it required to sit upon my head. I dare not move and as there was no one around, and I dare not shout for rescue I sat there some minutes before someone passed the living room and noticed there was a bobcat sitting on my head. It was the husband of the woman who let me in. He said " be very still, this is a territory thing, i'll go get my wife" a minute later she comes into the room and snatches the bobcat off my head as easy as you would snatch your ordinary domestic cat.
I ended up working with these people for years and part of my job was cleaning the bobcat enclosure, beleive it or not that little bobcat freaked me out on many occassions, sitting above his enclosure door so I couldn't get out he would growl at me menacingly. I worked with alot of animals, been chased by a bear charged by a jaguar, played with tons of venomous snakes, but that tiny bobcat had me totally intimidated and he knew it!

Alexis
11th March 2013, 17:41
Hi everybody!
Here and now, i'm in front my computer, the fireplace in the back, it's 6h30pm and the night is going to fall.
I'm stuck at home for 10 days minimum , I've a sciatica... What a strocke of luck!
But there are positive points, I'm going to be able to work my english, read, tidy up my spirit and browse the forum. This time will be not lost .
When I draft this lines , I listen to this song of Goran Bregovic, I forgets a little bit the pain, but I can't dance !
N7eSyfALB5E
If somebody knows good musics for meditation has to give me, I would be delighted !
Thank you and Peace

araucaria
11th March 2013, 17:42
I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/michael_jordan_zpse6178e9b.jpg

Sorry to disagree Paula - a lot of it is in the feet, he's got at least a foot and a half more than me :)

Calz
11th March 2013, 18:34
Have a bit of music ... feeling way withdrawn from the forum lately ... hopefully this too will pass.

4r0_kYpIiS0

ulli
11th March 2013, 18:40
Hi everybody!
Here and now, i'm in front my computer, the fireplace in the back, it's 6h30pm and the night is going to fall.
I'm stuck at home for 10 days minimum , I've a sciatica... What a strocke of luck!
But there are positive points, I'm going to be able to work my english, read, tidy up my spirit and browse the forum. This time will be not lost .
When I draft this lines , I listen to this song of Goran Bregovic, I forgets a little bit the pain, but I can't dance !
N7eSyfALB5E
If somebody knows good musics for meditation has to give me, I would be delighted !
Thank you and Peace

Sciatica...hellish pain. Needs attention. Apart for distant healing which this thread has become famous for you may need vitamin B12 for the nerve, chiropractic adjustments of the spine, and massages and muscle relaxants.
Also might want to heat some sea salt in a pan...maybe one pound or so, then put it into a pillow case, make a knot, and put the hot salt bag on the pain area.
The salt crystals, when hot, radiate deep into the tissue and its an amazing form of pain relief.

Alexis
11th March 2013, 18:46
Big thanks Ulli , I'll test that !
Bye

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 18:54
I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/michael_jordan_zpse6178e9b.jpg

Sorry to disagree Paula - a lot of it is in the feet, he's got at least a foot and a half more than me :)


Araucaria, I may have been too literal in your interpretation. bwahaha!!! http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/big_foot_zps8eb3868f.jpg

araucaria
11th March 2013, 19:21
Big thanks Ulli , I'll test that !
Bye

Hi Alexis
You might also try a bag of cherry stones heated in the microwave, not tried it myself but they say it works well (I hadn't heard of the sea salt version).
A spot of sunshine might help as well, but that might be too late!

araucaria
11th March 2013, 19:31
I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/michael_jordan_zpse6178e9b.jpg

Sorry to disagree Paula - a lot of it is in the feet, he's got at least a foot and a half more than me :)


Araucaria, I may have been too literal in your interpretation. bwahaha!!! http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/big_foot_zps8eb3868f.jpg

You're right Paula, I take size 41, compared with Michael's size, what, 15? :)

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 19:43
Have a bit of music ... feeling way withdrawn from the forum lately ... hopefully this too will pass.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz_cloud_zps2987d4a9.jpg

L,
P'er :wave:

RunningDeer
11th March 2013, 20:28
7 Pisces Planet Fusion

Published on Mar 11, 2013
Electric blue static confusion, trust your gut and SURF - at least for today.


5yhaUZZ8LZA

ulli
11th March 2013, 20:40
Ulli's favorite astrologer coming up:


jjX5AAJC8pk

and here Michael talks about Pluto in Capricorn (since 2008)
being the real cause of all the surveillance:

qdhS1uwx8uY

Playdo of Ataraxas
11th March 2013, 20:48
I just watched this TED talk about wearing second hand clothes.
Since my days as a fashion designer I have enjoyed shopping in thrift stores more
than in normal retail outlets, and most of my designer friends were like me.
Once in a while I might shop at a Saint-Laurent sale, but when you manufacture clothes you don't buy retail.
Here in Costa Rica we have huge second hand shops which are called Ropa Americana. They used to be called Ropa Usada, but since they came via containers from the US, someone painted their sign with the word USAda which means used, in the colors of the US flag.
Then the next guy changed the word USAda to Americana, and even though you can find items made in Paris and Milan, they are now always called ROPA AMERICANA.

I buy clothes and linen there...nearly every sheet and pillow I buy is Ralph Lauren, none cost me more than two or three dollars. My clothes are also top designer labels, in Costa Rica I stick mainly to black, and in Barbados I wear a lot of white, beige or pastels. Nothing like the girl in the TED talk.

Anyway, just thought I'd share that here. Spending money on expensive clothes is as silly as buying a brand new car...

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/enlightened-simplicity/wearing-nothing-new-jessi-arrington.html

Hey Ulli, that's Jessi Arrington. She's from Starkville, Mississippi, though she lives in New York now. My wife knew her at the university where they were in the same sorority. Her TED talk was pretty good.

donk
11th March 2013, 21:38
Dedicated to Calz, I dug the Phish deeeep out of the well, thought I "out-grew" them crazy kids...however this one is now in my head, and will not get out:


wnUESNDUs6E

ulli
12th March 2013, 01:27
http://i.imgur.com/lt9nmSh.jpg

ulli
12th March 2013, 01:45
How crop circles are really made:


http://i.imgur.com/YLKfq.jpg

yukondiva
12th March 2013, 03:03
Here and Now
Sitting on my back porch listening to the crickets and frogs chirp, the river rushing by, watching fireflies light up the trees like christmas lights. I ponder the world I am leaving and the new world I am entering. Everywhere there is love and acceptance, like a butterfly leaving the cocoon I am emerging into a world that has called for me. Today is a gift and I am present. Grateful cannot describe how I feel. I wish every one in the world to be as blessed. Thank you village at this critical time in my growth and for inspiring me to dream..

astrid
12th March 2013, 13:00
OS0Tg0IjCp4


Marina Abramovic and Ulay started an intense love story in the 70s, performing
art out of the van they lived in. When they felt the relationship had run its course,
they decided to walk the Great Wall of China, each from one end, meeting for one
last big hug in the middle and never seeing each other again.

At her 2010 MoMa retrospective Marina performed ‘The Artist Is Present’ as
part of the show, where she shared a minute of silence with each stranger
who sat in front of her. Ulay arrived without her knowing and this is
what happened.

Lisab
12th March 2013, 13:10
OS0Tg0IjCp4


Marina Abramovic and Ulay started an intense love story in the 70s, performing
art out of the van they lived in. When they felt the relationship had run its course,
they decided to walk the Great Wall of China, each from one end, meeting for one
last big hug in the middle and never seeing each other again.

At her 2010 MoMa retrospective Marina performed ‘The Artist Is Present’ as
part of the show, where she shared a minute of silence with each stranger
who sat in front of her. Ulay arrived without her knowing and this is
what happened.

Tears here Astrid. That was so beautiful

Calz
12th March 2013, 13:15
I once tried to take a pic like that, but not nearly as good - either I'm not too good at slam dunks or the Sun wasn't playing ball :(


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/michael_jordan_zpse6178e9b.jpg

Sorry to disagree Paula - a lot of it is in the feet, he's got at least a foot and a half more than me :)


If not by fire then ice ...

(posted by Gio on the Ranch thread about a year ago)


*** 2 FEET of snow ***


20768


Say thanx for the music tribute and especially to Paula and WhiteFeather for helping me fill in for Gio while he enjoys a little down time.


20769

Lisab
12th March 2013, 13:21
It's bloody snowing here again. I love the snow but jeez not now. Had enough already. I want my spring! David Icke/Joe Strummer/Onyxknight are correct..the ice age is coming! I reckon it's here

spiritwind
12th March 2013, 13:30
Hi Paula, I figured this one would definitely have meaning to you. To sum up where I've been lately, I drew the Prairie Dog card (I work w/Jamie Sams & David Carson's Medicine Cards) 3 times in a row! So, I have been reflecting on what that means to me for the last several days as I contemplate another move. We moved into this house 6 months ago, moved my daughter 2 months in a row, and now we're moving in 3 weeks. It's a good move though, maybe even another, better, job too. Been missing everyone. Life in the Village goes on though. Love all you fine folks here and hoping all is well in your world.

ulli
12th March 2013, 13:32
OS0Tg0IjCp4


Marina Abramovic and Ulay started an intense love story in the 70s, performing
art out of the van they lived in. When they felt the relationship had run its course,
they decided to walk the Great Wall of China, each from one end, meeting for one
last big hug in the middle and never seeing each other again.

At her 2010 MoMa retrospective Marina performed ‘The Artist Is Present’ as
part of the show, where she shared a minute of silence with each stranger
who sat in front of her. Ulay arrived without her knowing and this is
what happened.

Wow, Astrid. Where did you find this?
True art is what shows us the nature of life, as well as spirit.

Deprivation and absense showing that eternal love exists,
perhaps more so than physical togetherness.

astrid
12th March 2013, 13:33
Here its been hot as, sleeping at night is not an easy task.
I have no aircon, but most of the windows have screens to i can open the house
up in the evenings.

Today i had my house inspection,
and thankfully it was fire, what fire??
He didn't notice that the laundry was a bright daffodil yellow.
Now i have even permission to give the bathroom a make over,
it so needs it, i so dislike ugly bathrooms. Double Libran can't help herself,
has to be always making the ugly more beautiful.

donk
12th March 2013, 13:33
To everyone feeling misunderstood, or stuck in an argument, or having ANY problems with ANYone:

hNSGCVPPXvk

Please don't go crazy if I tell you the truth
No you don't know what happened
And you never will
If you don't listen to me
...
Sweetheart tell me what's up?
I won't stop...No way
...
Both my shoulders are heavy
From the wieght of us both

YOU HAVE NOT HEARD A SINGLE WORD I HAVE SAID--OH MY GOD
...
Please take it easy, it can all be my fault
I haven't made half the mistakes
that you've listed so far
...
Dr Jekyll is wrestling Hyde, for my pride...

araucaria
12th March 2013, 13:34
It's bloody snowing here again. I love the snow but jeez not now. Had enough already. I want my spring! David Icke/Joe Strummer/Onyxknight are correct..the ice age is coming! I reckon it's here

No, don't be so silly, it's the local effects of global warming aka climate change ;)

Calz
12th March 2013, 13:38
Double Libran can't help herself

...




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araucaria
12th March 2013, 13:43
OS0Tg0IjCp4


Marina Abramovic and Ulay started an intense love story in the 70s, performing
art out of the van they lived in. When they felt the relationship had run its course,
they decided to walk the Great Wall of China, each from one end, meeting for one
last big hug in the middle and never seeing each other again.

At her 2010 MoMa retrospective Marina performed ‘The Artist Is Present’ as
part of the show, where she shared a minute of silence with each stranger
who sat in front of her. Ulay arrived without her knowing and this is
what happened.

Wow, Astrid. Where did you find this?
True art is what shows us the nature of life, as well as spirit.

Deprivation and absense showing that eternal love exists,
perhaps more so than physical togetherness.

This is the sort of performance they would do back then; powerful stuff indeed.

3Tz-K4EC8hw

ulli
12th March 2013, 13:47
Hi Paula, I figured this one would definitely have meaning to you. To sum up where I've been lately, I drew the Prairie Dog card (I work w/Jamie Sams & David Carson's Medicine Cards) 3 times in a row! So, I have been reflecting on what that means to me for the last several days as I contemplate another move. We moved into this house 6 months ago, moved my daughter 2 months in a row, and now we're moving in 3 weeks. It's a good move though, maybe even another, better, job too. Been missing everyone. Life in the Village goes on though. Love all you fine folks here and hoping all is well in your world.

Well, Spiritwind, I must confess I am a bit jealous of you moving again.
I have moved nearly fifty times in my life, and of course it became a habit.
After two years in one place there is an itch, a restlessness. I start manifesting negative stuff, as if to give myself an excuse to move on.
Since moving to this valley in the mountains of Costa Rica five years ago I knew that the time had come to kick that Gypsy butt of mine and settle down. Spirit confirms this. My father-in- law confirmed it, too, when he gave us a two acre field next to the river right next door to where we are now.
I have designed our house.
Yet the old restless me still wants to get up and move again....
being born with a Jupiter-sun conjunction can be a bit of a curse.....

donk
12th March 2013, 13:49
How can you be a "double" anything? What is a "single libra"...which I assume is me?

astrid
12th March 2013, 13:57
Sun in Libra, rising sign also Libra,
so double whammy.

Good thing i have a fair wack of Scorpio
to stop me being a total flake, lol
Scorpio Mars keeps things interesting.

ulli
12th March 2013, 14:00
Once the exact birth time is known astrologers take into consideration not only the longitude positions of the sun, moon, and planets, but also set up a second chart, where the positions of those planets relate to the exact time zone and location of birth.
This part of the chart gives what is called astrological "houses", which range from 1 to 12. As the earth rotates around its own axis every 24 hours a new sign "rises" on the eastern horizon every two hours. The first house is then plotted from the point that was rising, or ascending there...and is called the Ascendant.
People who are born around sunrise have the Ascendant in the same sign as their sun, hence double Libra, in Astrid's case.
If she had been born at sunset, she would have had Aries, the opposite sign of Libra, as her Ascendant.

Calz
12th March 2013, 14:02
Sun in Libra, rising sign also Libra,
so double whammy.




don't get me started ... or araucaria for that matter ...


http://lolpics.se/pics/482.jpg

Lisab
12th March 2013, 14:07
Hi Paula, I figured this one would definitely have meaning to you. To sum up where I've been lately, I drew the Prairie Dog card (I work w/Jamie Sams & David Carson's Medicine Cards) 3 times in a row! So, I have been reflecting on what that means to me for the last several days as I contemplate another move. We moved into this house 6 months ago, moved my daughter 2 months in a row, and now we're moving in 3 weeks. It's a good move though, maybe even another, better, job too. Been missing everyone. Life in the Village goes on though. Love all you fine folks here and hoping all is well in your world.

Well, Spiritwind, I must confess I am a bit jealous of you moving again.
I have moved nearly fifty times in my life, and of course it became a habit.
After two years in one place there is an itch, a restlessness. I start manifesting negative stuff, as if to give myself an excuse to move on.
Since moving to this valley in the mountains of Costa Rica five years ago I knew that the time had come to kick that Gypsy butt of mine and settle down. Spirit confirms this. My father-in- law confirmed it, too, when he gave us a two acre field next to the river right next door to where we are now.
I have designed our house.
Yet the old restless me still wants to get up and move again....
being born with a Jupiter-sun conjunction can be a bit of a curse.....

I've moved around my whole life, mostly between Wales and England. I love where I am now. I live near a place called Three Cliffs Bay. Breathtakingly beautiful and steeped in legend, teeming with Sidhe. I really thought I'd found my roots here. Not according to astrologer Steve Judd. He reckons I won't even be in the uk eventually. You should hear my protestations on the cd he did for me from my phone reading! "We'll see Lisa, We'll see!" Is his take!

Calz
12th March 2013, 14:13
Very kewl little vid ...


Despite the banksters trashing America ... yah know what???

I still love this country and it's people.

The 99% of the politicians who sold out to take that away from the world ... well ... may karma be swift, true and just.


ooq5gZsmXGk

ulli
12th March 2013, 14:23
I'm not sure if I ever shared this before, Calz. Maybe it doesn't hurt to do it again. From the beginning, when I first learnt how to set up birth charts, I knew that astrology could really only have one purpose for me....to rise above planetary influences.
To use this knowledge to do otherwise, and not what we feel compelled to do.
So within one year I broke free from my incessant Capricorn ambitious business woman self, and return to my earlier explorer self. I left my fashion career without looking back. Nobody could believe it at the time.

So when you feel that your five Libra planets are running the show, start focusing on the question of "what would an Aries do here?" to balance that Libra influence out a bit.
Aries energy is action energy...no contemplation, no planning, no thinking, just DO it. Deal with the consequences later.
There is this fearlessness in Aries energy, which the perfectionistic Libra cannot allow themselves, in case they make a mistake, and then later have to live with obsessive guilt.
If all this is understood, then all of our compulsive issues can be dealt with one by one...as they arise.
Those Librans who have developed the ability to forgive themselves,
to overcome their vanity, their compulsive need to be at one with all others,
and live in peace and harmony at all times, their need to grab votes from an adoring public,
to overcome their fear of conflict and allow the positive side of conflict processes to lead to fresh clarity...
those Librans then become a force to be reckoned with, which can begin to understand what "free will" really means.
Because everything in life has a good and a bad application, every planetary sign has a good and a bad application, but it is higher consciousness that should be in charge of these applications, and not compulsive planetary impulses.
This is why I wish everyone would study astrology, starting at an early age.
No path leads to self knowledge faster.

Not going to happen while the elite go out of their way to ridicule this field,
or distort it with pseudo astrologers they plant in their media outlets.

Calz
12th March 2013, 14:32
I just like to frolic ulli ... you know me (hey you did my chart ... what color is my underwear???)

:rofl:

I had lotso fun with astro for several years (learned hanging around a professional).

Dropped following it because I did not want to take away the spontaneous moments that define our lives ... but still remember a lot.

I does help in understanding others ... and that was/is the true value in it for me (not predictive aspects).

(now if I had the type of astro influences carmody does ... that would be different)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39vbmmZpu1qgmfp3o1_500.jpg

donk
12th March 2013, 14:32
Heh...I'm gonna learn about this astrology thing without reading anything other than on this thread...despite y'all!!! hahaha!


This part of the chart gives what is called astrological "houses", which range from 1 to 12.

So is the "what's your sign, baby?" sign outside of this? Or is that your first house? I'm a 3:05pm EST on the East coast of the US (the center of the universe, where all time starts and stops...well, the markets and teevee, anyway)

Lisab
12th March 2013, 14:33
I'm finding the energies to be very supportive of late, although I am on the 3am wake up again. Two weeks ago upon awakening I made an impassioned plea to the universe to now help me find like minded people in the physical. I'm fine with aloneless and of course having Avalon and the village has probably been the most magical and helpful times of my life, but I just felt it was time I think. Anyway, after my prayer and upon opening the curtains I was greeted with a Murmaration of starlings. Starling medicine is group connections. Then one evening I dreamed of Archangel Micheal. Now this was a biggie for me, because I'd stepped backed from angel energy for certain reasons that I won't go into at this point.
Last week I popped into the public toilets on the beach front and there pinned to a notice board was an invitation to a Micheal throat chakra meditation, that very night.
I left little one with his big bro and off I went. I've since been back 3 times for various meditations, meetings and lectures. It's so wonderful to 'talk shift' with others here in my home town. I've met some awesome people but not everyone yet. There are lots of events coming up in April, including shamanic journeying. I'm very excited right now!

araucaria
12th March 2013, 14:39
Sun in Libra, rising sign also Libra,
so double whammy.




don't get me started ... or araucaria for that matter ...


http://lolpics.se/pics/482.jpg

Keep me out of this please Calz :) 'Double libran' doesn't mean you and me, it means you and you - it looks like you're having a gemini moment (whatever that is)

Edit:I don't have a time of birth so I can't be a double anything can I?

ulli
12th March 2013, 15:25
Heh...I'm gonna learn about this astrology thing without reading anything other than on this thread...despite y'all!!! hahaha!


This part of the chart gives what is called astrological "houses", which range from 1 to 12.

So is the "what's your sign, baby?" sign outside of this? Or is that your first house? I'm a 3:05pm EST on the East coast of the US (the center of the universe, where all time starts and stops...well, the markets and teevee, anyway)

The layer of the chart which becomes visible when the exact time of birth is known explains why not all Taureans are the same.
If you are a Taurus with a Cancer Ascendant you will come across much more reserved and even shy than a Taurus with a Leo Ascendant, who will seek the lime light.
Of course the moon also modifies the sun sign but not as much as the Ascendant.
In fact, in some astrology circles they say that the sun and the moon give away only 25% of the appearance, while the Ascendant is 50%.
Which explains why in astro tea parties astrologers usually guess me to be Leo, and only after I tell them no do they get the Capricorn part.

Kiforall
12th March 2013, 16:06
I'm not sure if I ever shared this before, Calz. Maybe it doesn't hurt to do it again. From the beginning, when I first learnt how to set up birth charts, I knew that astrology could really only have one purpose for me....to rise above planetary influences.
To use this knowledge to do otherwise, and not what we feel compelled to do.
So within one year I broke free from my incessant Capricorn ambitious business woman self, and return to my earlier explorer self. I left my fashion career without looking back. Nobody could believe it at the time.

So when you feel that your five Libra planets are running the show, start focusing on the question of "what would an Aries do here?" to balance that Libra influence out a bit.
Aries energy is action energy...no contemplation, no planning, no thinking, just DO it. Deal with the consequences later.
There is this fearlessness in Aries energy, which the perfectionistic Libra cannot allow themselves, in case they make a mistake, and then later have to live with obsessive guilt.
If all this is understood, then all of our compulsive issues can be dealt with one by one...as they arise.
Those Librans who have developed the ability to forgive themselves,
to overcome their vanity, their compulsive need to be at one with all others,
and live in peace and harmony at all times, their need to grab votes from an adoring public,
to overcome their fear of conflict and allow the positive side of conflict processes to lead to fresh clarity...
those Librans then become a force to be reckoned with, which can begin to understand what "free will" really means.
Because everything in life has a good and a bad application, every planetary sign has a good and a bad application, but it is higher consciousness that should be in charge of these applications, and not compulsive planetary impulses.
This is why I wish everyone would study astrology, starting at an early age.
No path leads to self knowledge faster.

Not going to happen while the elite go out of their way to ridicule this field,
or distort it with pseudo astrologers they plant in their media outlets.

Hi Ulli,
Please could you point me in the direction of any descent websites and/or books for a complete beginner in Astrology with the idea to also bring the kids into this. Could be a great subject for home schooling, lesson plans are tight considering almost everything taught in school today is a load of b****cks lol.

Thanks Zoe

Calz
12th March 2013, 16:14
Here (and now) is ulli's astro thread .... lotso good stuff in there.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25260-Astrology-as-a-Know-Yourself-tool


I just spent a *great* deal of time combing through that after a search to respond to:


Keep me out of this please Calz 'Double libran' doesn't mean you and me, it means you and you - it looks like you're having a gemini moment (whatever that is)


Didn't find what I was looking for there ... only other thread is this one and I sure as sh!t aint gonna go through this whole thread ...

:scared: :faint:

Lisab
12th March 2013, 16:16
Also next month I'm going to a talk by Timothy Freke. Again this has been arranged by the same group and is quite a coup for my little town. It's only 12 pounds. In London he would charge at least 50. I've never read any of his books but I have checked out him by u tube. Pretty exciting.

araucaria
12th March 2013, 16:30
Here (and now) is ulli's astro thread .... lotso good stuff in there.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25260-Astrology-as-a-Know-Yourself-tool


I just spent a *great* deal of time combing through that after a search to respond to:


Keep me out of this please Calz 'Double libran' doesn't mean you and me, it means you and you - it looks like you're having a gemini moment (whatever that is)


Didn't find what I was looking for there ... only other thread is this one and I sure as sh!t aint gonna go through this whole thread ...

:scared: :faint:

Wow, I am flattered at the time spent trying to answer the possibly unanswerable. Hasn't it occurred to you Calz that I may just be talking nonsense :)

ulli
12th March 2013, 16:30
I'm not sure if I ever shared this before, Calz. Maybe it doesn't hurt to do it again. From the beginning, when I first learnt how to set up birth charts, I knew that astrology could really only have one purpose for me....to rise above planetary influences.
To use this knowledge to do otherwise, and not what we feel compelled to do.
So within one year I broke free from my incessant Capricorn ambitious business woman self, and return to my earlier explorer self. I left my fashion career without looking back. Nobody could believe it at the time.

So when you feel that your five Libra planets are running the show, start focusing on the question of "what would an Aries do here?" to balance that Libra influence out a bit.
Aries energy is action energy...no contemplation, no planning, no thinking, just DO it. Deal with the consequences later.
There is this fearlessness in Aries energy, which the perfectionistic Libra cannot allow themselves, in case they make a mistake, and then later have to live with obsessive guilt.
If all this is understood, then all of our compulsive issues can be dealt with one by one...as they arise.
Those Librans who have developed the ability to forgive themselves,
to overcome their vanity, their compulsive need to be at one with all others,
and live in peace and harmony at all times, their need to grab votes from an adoring public,
to overcome their fear of conflict and allow the positive side of conflict processes to lead to fresh clarity...
those Librans then become a force to be reckoned with, which can begin to understand what "free will" really means.
Because everything in life has a good and a bad application, every planetary sign has a good and a bad application, but it is higher consciousness that should be in charge of these applications, and not compulsive planetary impulses.
This is why I wish everyone would study astrology, starting at an early age.
No path leads to self knowledge faster.

Not going to happen while the elite go out of their way to ridicule this field,
or distort it with pseudo astrologers they plant in their media outlets.

Hi Ulli,
Please could you point me in the direction of any descent websites and/or books for a complete beginner in Astrology with the idea to also bring the kids into this. Could be a great subject for home schooling, lesson plans are tight considering almost everything taught in school today is a load of b****cks lol.

Thanks Zoe

I went to google "The Compleat Astrologer" by Derek and Julia Parker, which was one of the books which got me started back in 1979 and is excellent.
But holy moly ...the price tag is unbelievable on Amazon...$245 for a new and over $100 for used copies.

RunningDeer
12th March 2013, 16:36
Hi Paula, I figured this one would definitely have meaning to you. To sum up where I've been lately, I drew the Prairie Dog card (I work w/Jamie Sams & David Carson's Medicine Cards) 3 times in a row! So, I have been reflecting on what that means to me for the last several days as I contemplate another move. We moved into this house 6 months ago, moved my daughter 2 months in a row, and now we're moving in 3 weeks. It's a good move though, maybe even another, better, job too. Been missing everyone. Life in the Village goes on though. Love all you fine folks here and hoping all is well in your world.

Hello Spirit Wind,

Three times in a row, I love, love, love those kinds of synchronicities! I’m particle to 3 reasons, 3 rationales, or 3 excuses... when I get 3 then I justify what I’m about to do. (A silly thing I think I need to do, but do anyway.)

My take is any move, be it inward or outward, is a golden opportunity to lighten the load physically, emotionally and spiritually become Lighter. Side benefits: happiness, creativity of all kinds including creative solutions, clean-slate... What am I doing?This is beginning to sound preachy. Ugh!
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/jobs/pope-smiley-emoticon.gif I wanted to use this smilie before it comes outdated.

I have a great feeling about your move. God Speed on your ever changing and always better journey.

BTW: In part, you’ve answered my question why the prairie dog kept popping into my head for the last week.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/etch-a-sketch-small_zpsdbd90dc3.jpg


There some info on the #3 and the prairie dog from some of my favorite resource books:

Three as defines in “Numerology and the Divine Triangle,” by: Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker

Bible Symbology: The First Trinity - Adam and Eve and child. Thus 3 means manifestation and expansion. Other trinities survive in our world - body, soul, and spirit, and the three division of mind - conscious, subconscious, and super-conscious. The Trinity, triad and trine - the three dimensions. In a larger sense, the 3 stands for multiplication and growth.

Tarot Symbolism: The Empress is also an aspect of the subconscious mind. Subconscious response to that memory which produces growth through the imagination. Dominion over the world of creation through love. Epitome of creation and abundance.

Astrological Correspondence: Jupiter (and Venus) from the foregoing delineations of number 3 (Jupiter) and the key (the Empress, Venus), these attributes work in conjunction to bring about productivity. Venus seeks to bring harmony and beauty into whatever environment she appears. Her keen sense of justice manifests through a fine symmetry, and her loving nature seeks to make others as well as herself comfortable... When Venus unites with Jupiter, who desire to expand services for humanity through orderly growth, an extremely productive and fertile situation results.

Prairie dog, “Animal Spirit Guides,” by: Steven D. Farmer, PhD.


You know when and how to pull back from situations and relationships that could potentially drain your energy.
You’re able to go with the flow and rarely get rattled about anything.
You’re a sociable individual with strong ties to your community.
If there’s something bugging you, and have no clue, you need some time to dig in and analyze it in order to understand what it is.



I say: Life’s an etch-a-sketch doodle, there’s lots of space for the rest to unfold.

FraYjfWKmCM

Hearts,
Paula

Calz
12th March 2013, 16:38
Here (and now) is ulli's astro thread .... lotso good stuff in there.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25260-Astrology-as-a-Know-Yourself-tool


I just spent a *great* deal of time combing through that after a search to respond to:


Keep me out of this please Calz 'Double libran' doesn't mean you and me, it means you and you - it looks like you're having a gemini moment (whatever that is)


Didn't find what I was looking for there ... only other thread is this one and I sure as sh!t aint gonna go through this whole thread ...

:scared: :faint:

Wow, I am flattered at the time spent trying to answer the possibly unanswerable. Hasn't it occurred to you Calz that I may just be talking nonsense :)

As anyone "blessed" with *very* many planets in Libra ... all possibilities are considered ... and arriving at the answer most always painful if not impossible.

Hey ... I talk nonsense ...


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/Healing_Spirit/Motivational%20posters%20and%20funny%20things/Rabbit.jpg

ulli
12th March 2013, 16:50
Wow, we have two Librans here talking non-sense to each other

while at the same time trying to be dead serious. Carry on pleaze

:popcorn:

Calz
12th March 2013, 16:52
Wow, we have two Librans here talking non-sense to each other

while at the same time trying to be dead serious. Carry on pleaze

:popcorn:


Yep ... best make sure you have plenty of popcorn ...


http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/Apple_Head_XD/michaeljacksoneatspopcorn.gif

Lisab
12th March 2013, 16:58
Ulli I used to have The Compleat Astrologer too. Wish I'd kept it now! Some of my old magic books are worth a fortune on Amazon. One, which the purple wizard will probably recognise called The Master Grimoire of Magickal Rites and Ceremonies is on there for $777!

Kiforall
12th March 2013, 17:02
I went to google "The Compleat Astrologer" by Derek and Julia Parker, which was one of the books which got me started back in 1979 and is excellent.
But holy moly ...the price tag is unbelievable on Amazon...$245 for a new and over $100 for used copies.

:eek: You're being robbed, Ebay UK has quite a few copies 2nd hand from about £5.00. Easter present to myself, better for me than GMO cadburys chocolate egg.

Thanks Zoe

ulli
12th March 2013, 17:04
I went to google "The Compleat Astrologer" by Derek and Julia Parker, which was one of the books which got me started back in 1979 and is excellent.
But holy moly ...the price tag is unbelievable on Amazon...$245 for a new and over $100 for used copies.

:eek: You're being robbed, Ebay UK has quite a few copies 2nd hand from about £5.00. Easter present to myself, better for me than GMO cadburys chocolate egg.

Thanks Zoe

Found one for under $10 on e-bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Compleat-Astrologer-by-Derek-Parker-and-Julia-Parker-1971-HC-Astrology-Zodiac-/130854041904?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item1e77823930

ulli
12th March 2013, 17:07
I went to google "The Compleat Astrologer" by Derek and Julia Parker, which was one of the books which got me started back in 1979 and is excellent.
But holy moly ...the price tag is unbelievable on Amazon...$245 for a new and over $100 for used copies.

:eek: You're being robbed, Ebay UK has quite a few copies 2nd hand from about £5.00. Easter present to myself, better for me than GMO cadburys chocolate egg.

Thanks Zoe

The Compleat Astrologer is a bit overwhelming at first, and since the seventies endless computer programs and even free websites have become available which make it unnecessary to learn the laborious process of setting up a chart by hand.

But there are great pictures in the book, which makes it fun for kids.

Calz
12th March 2013, 17:24
20780


I was very much blessed to be able to befriend a professional (in oh so many ways) but this was the astro book she recommended for those starting out.

This was more than twenty years ago ... but hey ... stuff like this really doesn't change. Yeah like the planets are going to change their minds over the years right?

RunningDeer
12th March 2013, 17:28
Here (and now) is ulli's astro thread .... lotso good stuff in there.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25260-Astrology-as-a-Know-Yourself-tool


I just spent a *great* deal of time combing through that after a search to respond to:


Keep me out of this please Calz 'Double libran' doesn't mean you and me, it means you and you - it looks like you're having a gemini moment (whatever that is)


Didn't find what I was looking for there ... only other thread is this one and I sure as sh!t aint gonna go through this whole thread ...

:scared: :faint:

I did not know about the thread. 33 pages worth. Yipes! Thanks, Ulli and Calz.

@ REILLY, while I was over there, I saw your new avatar - purple eyed black cat. Nice.

Lisab
12th March 2013, 17:48
Ok amazon are seriously deluded lol. Although the guys over at some forums dedicated to magick would offer good money. I've also got New Avatar Power hard copy. That's worth a pretty penny too. I don't use them anymore but I'd rather just give them away to someone who'd appreciate them. I have no problem with that.

RunningDeer
12th March 2013, 18:07
I'm not sure if I ever shared this before, Calz. Maybe it doesn't hurt to do it again. From the beginning, when I first learnt how to set up birth charts, I knew that astrology could really only have one purpose for me....to rise above planetary influences.
To use this knowledge to do otherwise, and not what we feel compelled to do.
So within one year I broke free from my incessant Capricorn ambitious business woman self, and return to my earlier explorer self. I left my fashion career without looking back. Nobody could believe it at the time.

So when you feel that your five Libra planets are running the show, start focusing on the question of "what would an Aries do here?" to balance that Libra influence out a bit.
Aries energy is action energy...no contemplation, no planning, no thinking, just DO it. Deal with the consequences later.
There is this fearlessness in Aries energy, which the perfectionistic Libra cannot allow themselves, in case they make a mistake, and then later have to live with obsessive guilt.
If all this is understood, then all of our compulsive issues can be dealt with one by one...as they arise.
Those Librans who have developed the ability to forgive themselves,
to overcome their vanity, their compulsive need to be at one with all others,
and live in peace and harmony at all times, their need to grab votes from an adoring public,
to overcome their fear of conflict and allow the positive side of conflict processes to lead to fresh clarity...
those Librans then become a force to be reckoned with, which can begin to understand what "free will" really means.
Because everything in life has a good and a bad application, every planetary sign has a good and a bad application, but it is higher consciousness that should be in charge of these applications, and not compulsive planetary impulses.
This is why I wish everyone would study astrology, starting at an early age.
No path leads to self knowledge faster.

Not going to happen while the elite go out of their way to ridicule this field,
or distort it with pseudo astrologers they plant in their media outlets.

Hi Ulli,
Please could you point me in the direction of any descent websites and/or books for a complete beginner in Astrology with the idea to also bring the kids into this. Could be a great subject for home schooling, lesson plans are tight considering almost everything taught in school today is a load of b****cks lol.

Thanks Zoe

I went to google "The Compleat Astrologer" by Derek and Julia Parker, which was one of the books which got me started back in 1979 and is excellent.
But holy moly ...the price tag is unbelievable on Amazon...$245 for a new and over $100 for used copies.

My first astrology book was back in 1967 called “ Linda Goodman's Sun Signs,” by Linda Goodman. There was a sections where you could compare planets with a partner to see if and where you were compatible. For example my sun with their venus. Mars with venus. It even had a section where is suggested that a relationship may be physically confrontational. That held out in one of my relationships, so for a time, I’d do up a compatible chart before I put my heart out there. Better that than a head in a metaphorical vice.

I’ve just downloaded Goodman’s 2011 edition @ iTunes, $10, and “Parkers’ Encyclopedia of Astrology: Everything you ever wanted to know about astrology,” by Derek and Julia Parker, April 1, 2012, for $9. There’s a kindle edition on Amazon.com

I found this: "The Complete Astrologer (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=The+Complete+Astrologer%22+by+Derek+and+Julia+Parker)" by Derek and Julia Parker - Depending on the copywrite edition there’s a range. The 1990 edition is $245 new/$107 used; 1971 is $63 new, $0.01 used/$9.50 collectible.

Calz
12th March 2013, 18:12
My first astrology book was back in 1967 called “ Linda Goodman's Sun Signs,” by Linda Goodman.

That was actually a very good book.

Many people thought she "sold out" on her "Love Signs" book (matching up people via astro).

Personally I found *some* value there too (probably since I was still single :lol: ) but the sun sign book gives a good flavour of what sort of characteristics each sign may be faced with.

Of course, as ulli suggests, we can all overcome these energies ... but that is the "footprint" we are born into.

ulli
12th March 2013, 18:15
I've posted this before and I'm posting it again....
in reply to Calz' rabbit ears bandaged in a toilet roll.

http://i.imgur.com/0zxc2.gif

Calz
12th March 2013, 18:32
Well isn't this cute ... my two boys are off from school this week and they requested to watch Pink Floyd's The Wall movie.

Not even any suggestions from me ...

(no this isn't from the movie ... I expect you have all seen it ...)


xFgZlVBtRss

PurpleLama
12th March 2013, 19:07
@ REILLY, while I was over there, I saw your new avatar - purple eyed black cat. Nice.

Oops, and I just done gone and changed it. An image in me own likeness.

PurpleLama
12th March 2013, 19:19
I also have a copy of New Avatar Power, which is plain ol' white magic without the mysticism. Just say the holy names, and voila! Mine is a first ed, too. I wonder how valuable it is in the states, hmmmm....


Linda Goodman Sun Signs was the first astro book I bought for my daughter.

ulli
12th March 2013, 19:36
This is for those who think Avalon has become too fluffy lately:


http://i.imgur.com/D2Ky8.jpg

¤=[Post Update]=¤

and here is a comment:

Schrödinger's cat is on and off the Internet at the same time.

This will happen to everyone who has been through the ET portals

Carmody
12th March 2013, 19:39
If you really want to suffer a massive anuristic brain fart with astrology, you should start out where I did (when it comes to 'proper' astrology books)

http://images.betterworldbooks.com/087/The-New-A-to-Z-Horoscope-Maker-and-Delineator-the-New-A-to-Z-Horoscope-9780875422640.jpg

You would afterward, be very relieved to find such books as this:

http://www.cellarstories.com/cellar/images/items/141825.JPG

araucaria
12th March 2013, 19:55
This is for those who think Avalon has become too fluffy lately:


http://i.imgur.com/D2Ky8.jpg

¤=[Post Update]=¤

and here is a comment:

Schrödinger's cat is on and off the Internet at the same time.

This will happen to everyone who has been through the ET portals

They say cats can't decode images on a TV screen. This is provably false. I once had a tabby who became seriously interested in a wild life programme once I could persuade her to watch - it was some wild cat feeding her kittens and she definitely related to that much more than I did.

donk
12th March 2013, 22:01
@ REILLY, while I was over there, I saw your new avatar - purple eyed black cat. Nice.

Oops, and I just done gone and changed it. An image in me own likeness.

Heh...I was gonna do the same thing, but thought I'd scare folks off ;) :p:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=20782&d=1363125553

ulli
13th March 2013, 00:21
another song from the old garageband top 20:

pdjY7-NnBLw

eaglespirit
13th March 2013, 00:47
Yerrrrrrrrr ALL Crazy i Tell Ya...Just CRAZY!!! : ): ) : )

That's coming from an american builder trying to get a house on track in Peru that is four years behind schedule while knowing about five words of Spanish, HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

ulli
13th March 2013, 02:09
some might relate to this:


http://i.imgur.com/OshwW1X.gif

donk
13th March 2013, 03:15
Can anyone see Sirius from where they are right now?

From my front yard, it looks like a rainbow strobe light on crack.

Also has three rays coming off it: at 3 & 9 o'clock and longer one come down off it...if one was coming up off it, it'd look like a cross

Ol' Roy
13th March 2013, 05:50
You guys are killing me with all this astrology stuff. I used to think it was bs. But it seems all you intelligent beings are getting into the vibes! I have always been facinated by the planets and stars! Perhaps, I need to get on the same page as you all!

All I know is that I an Aquarian, born January26,1951, I always loved the song by The Fifth Dimensions, "Age of Aquarius". As a matter of fact, that was the first concert, I ever went to.

Lisab
13th March 2013, 07:01
Linda goodman also wrote a book called Star Signs, which was a life changer for me in the early nineties. I'd read all her astrology books but this was packed with info on the metaphysical. This book was my first introduction to Tesla and on her recommendation I went on to read The Spear of Destiny and The Holy Blood And the Holy Grail. She was big on conspiracy. Her daughter disappeared in the seventies, never seen again, under dubious circumstances.
There is a forum dedicated to her called Knowflakes and I have to say, as a lurker the guys over there are pretty knowledgable and a few of the older members have a lot of respect for Bill and Avalon.

meeradas
13th March 2013, 08:10
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS0Tg0IjCp4

This is...
untoppable.

Thanks, Astrid!


Also next month I'm going to a talk by Timothy Freke. Again this has been arranged by the same group and is quite a coup for my little town. It's only 12 pounds. In London he would charge at least 50. I've never read any of his books but I have checked out him by u tube. Pretty exciting.

Happy for you.
Tim could 'freke' you out [of this world, like he did with me, once - unbeknownst to him].
Do go.
You might get to know the busdriver.

If you get the chance, ask Timothy if he's a member here.

1inMany
13th March 2013, 14:39
http://data.whicdn.com/images/10713542/tumblr_lk53qyjEqe1qcxieko1_400_large.jpg

Love to all my village friends,

araucaria
13th March 2013, 14:55
Here is something I posted today on another thread, expanding on a post I made here a while back when virtual reality came up for discussion.



The notion of a ‘separate reality’ suggests a transcendent, hence seemingly insoluble problem. If it is in fact soluble it must have an immanent aspect upon which we can act from within the hologram. In other words, if outside influence is possible on the inside (the projector on the projection), this implies the possibility of inside influence on the outside (the projected manipulating the projector).

Part of what this would involve is tuning in to the immaterial aspect of this matrix and altering it from that angle. This is the aim and operativity of the spiritual approach being enacted on this forum and elsewhere.

Another part is being attentive to the material aspect, notably its imperfections (for it is far from perfect) and acting to change it in certain ways. This is where the scientific approach comes into play.

Combining both aspects, you have the ‘thought experiment’ which, apart from being used by scientists, is a staple of art and literature for example. Say you write a story about a holographic situation, all you have is an elaborate thought in concrete form (a book) but one that can explore the nuts and bolts of how this might actually work.

As it happens, there is a novella written in 1940 by the Argentinian writer Adolfo Bioy Casares, ‘The Invention of Morel’. The rest of this post is both a summary of the novel and my personal analysis of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_Morel

Morel is an engineer implementing holographic technology at an island property to immortalize his friends: unfortunately the process involves some harmful radiation that will kill them all. This filming process is followed, post mortem, by an automatic playback triggered by the occasional spring tide.

Twenty years later, the narrator is caught in what is a dual reality: his own reality where he is alone, and another where he is not. Being a fugitive from the law, he at first thinks he is being spied on. Then he sees for example people diving into a long disused swimming pool crawling with vipers and such: they were of course filmed years earlier, when the place was inhabited. Another strange feature is two suns, one the real sun, the other the holographic image. Much of the story is devoted to his coming to an understanding of what is happening to him. He has his basic normal reality, and then now and again this hologram superimposed on the original site. As he catches different points on this spacetime continuum in different places on the island, his perception is always partial and in random order; the jigsaw puzzle is a precise analogy for his investigation. Eventually he finds himself in a room at the same time as Morel has gathered everyone together to explain the situation. Morel is not worried about filming himself, as he has not long to live anyway.

Hence the narrative, which is already a metanarrative – it is devoted to explaining itself from an outsider’s viewpoint – contains this other metanarrative stating the insider’s viewpoint. Whether from the perpetrator’s or from the repairman’s angle, the story involves both transcendent and immanent elements. The technology is imported from elsewhere, but the whole show is stage-managed by the inventor as one of the actors. Then his audience of one decides to become involved in order to transform the whole narrative, at the cost of his own life. This means discovering the machinery and implementing a so far unused feature: a rerecord function whereby he can play his additional well-rehearsed part.

The machine-room is rather special in that it is the only place on the island that is not holographically recorded, and yet it is protected behind walls that are holographically recorded. This means that he can knock a hole in the wall to get in, but when the machine comes on with him inside, he cannot get out again, because the holographic illusion of the intact wall is perfectly solid. To restore the hole, he has to work out how to switch off the machine, which he somehow does through a stroke of inspiration perhaps brought on by sensory deprivation.

Hence there is a central immaterial mystery governing the activating or otherwise of all this hardware. We can only take this as read without trying to understand, and realize that the pseudo-transcendence is actually included within the illusion and relies upon the illusion for its protection. When the narrator becomes an active protagonist, stepping outside of the illusion into the machine room, he can divert the machine to his own purpose, and so on triggering the rerecord feature he can climb out through the hole in the wall, then come back and switch the machine off again.

After that the hologram continues to exist, but with a whole new storyline. The basis of the action had previously been Morel’s unrequited love for Faustine and her avoidance of him. This forced separation is the motive behind Morel’s making of the fatal film, which ultimately involves replacing a flesh-and-blood person with a holographic image; but it has left a gap for the narrator to fill and express his own love for her. As he does so, he has the opposite effect, bringing her back to life in the sense that his presence gives new meaning to hers, to the point that he fancies that this non-physical form in turn on some level becomes aware of him.

So we see how the whole situation is folded inside out. The inventor is reduced to being a minor actor in his own film; he is caught up in and devoured by his own illusion. The narrator commandeers the technology and rewrites the scenario with himself playing a leading role in what is potentially no longer an illusion but the reality of the novel he has composed.

This is of course just a novel, naturally limited in its scope, but as a thought experiment it provides food for thought notably with regard to the idea that we are both inside and outside of the illusion, and thus able to act to change it both from the inside and from the outside.

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th March 2013, 15:10
Here's an article I read this morning. I had no idea that language purity was such a big deal in Quebec. Flash, or others, is this a real issue or just more of the same Daily Mail trash?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292672/Quebec-language-police-threaten-Italian-restaurant-having-foreign-words-including-pasta.html

ulli
13th March 2013, 15:35
Bureaucracy at it's finest...hahaha...
Thanks Playdo, thanks Daily Mail.

Not just in Quebec- this shyte is happening all over the globe.

Carmody
13th March 2013, 15:46
Bureaucracy at it's finest...hahaha...
Thanks Playdo, thanks Daily Mail.

Not just in Quebec- this shyte is happening all over the globe.

Yes, Quebec is unique in the stop sign language. IIRC even France uses the word 'stop' on their stop signs. Only Quebec has it spelled in what is basically...incorrect french.

http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2011/03/only-in-quebec-is-stop-sign-language.html

araucaria
13th March 2013, 16:12
Here's an article I read this morning. I had no idea that language purity was such a big deal in Quebec. Flash, or others, is this a real issue or just more of the same Daily Mail trash?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292672/Quebec-language-police-threaten-Italian-restaurant-having-foreign-words-including-pasta.html

As a tiny French-speaking minority among so many English speakers, French Canadians are understandably very careful to preserve their language and will always coin a new word to translate a new foreign word. Here in France people can afford to be more relaxed about importing English words, that is until the French Academy comes along to tighten things up. The language of computing is one example where some words will get mangled or gradually replaced with French equivalents, without the need for strict border controls.

donk
13th March 2013, 16:19
I was quite impressed when I saw your post in it's context araucaria...of course, you spoiled the novella!! :p

Flash
13th March 2013, 16:35
Ulli is right, burocracy at its finest, the cracy point to be retained.

Yes, this is true, this happened. Result: the head of the Office de la langue française has given her demission (been fired), the whole world laughed at this, and the government decided to restructure the Office. I must say the whole province laughed at it too, French and English.

Now, Carmody is on the anglo side (from its education), I am on the French side. If sides there is to be?? (not for me in my heart for sure, but definitely for more close minded in both, English and French).

And yes, French have been adamant about the language here. The reason for purity is that we are in a sea of Anglos (north America) and the language was getting to a point of bastardization that was almost not coherent anylonger. This is one point of view.

The real back drop to this is a full 270+ year history between anglos and french in the province. And it has link with France and England wars as well.

But, to make is short, French were the first to colonise Canada (started in 1534, my ancestors must have gotten here around 1560, they were amongst the first - relating my family name) - oui Carmody, j'ai un de ces noms que tout le monde porte ici.

Then, British came. They made a very short, but nasty war to the French and won. One of the reason was the lack of support from the King in France, having been in war with England and wanting to concentrate on it, he abandoned his colony.

From then on, French Canada was a fully colonized province, with all that it includes. The catholic clergy helped into maintaining the French speaking
French because they were having power over them that way, while being heavily promoting the catholic faith, and this help into maintaining the division between French and English as well, which the English were happy with. French were the cheap labor for few centuries and could not, I MEAN COULD NOT climb to any position of power in corporation, in the business world, anywhere. So French hated British descent, British descent actively despised French - the British way.

I lived the remnant of it, in early seventies, I saw older people that could never make it to management because they were French (even if they spoke English). I remember shopping and not being able to be served in French. This was very well established.

Then came the fifties and the sixties. French Canada woke up. We refused the British domination, demanded access to higher level jobs, got schooled and started businesses. We realized that here we were a majority and decided to use this. This was called the quiet revolution, because nowhere in the world has a society changed sooo much without a civil war. Which was our case, no civil war. Success was really fast (SNC Lavallin one of the major engineering company in the world in French Canadian mainly, Bombardier and CAnadair are FRench mainly, Quebecor, etc.). We also started to be able to have management position at Bell and other English companies.

However, on of the way to access these innate rights (based on talent, if you want my drift) was to force the French usage in the corporations and commerce.

So a law was passed to force companies to use the language of the majority at work and in commerce (which was not the case prior, the minority language, English, was used and French had to comply). To write in French warning labels on products and product content for example, etc. And it had to be enforced. So the Office de la langue française was created with all the legal rights to have the law respected.

What happened, lately, is that there is some fanatics that have been hired by the Office and are going to the ridiculous extremes of applications of the law. They are just one or two fanatics, they will be put aside, it is happening right now. OLFQ is my customer, i have to do my billing before the month end - had forgotten, so I know how they are, this is not as bad as what is portrayed. But French has to be predominant, that is what is asked.

However, on the English side, and not from Quebecer English people but from the rest of Canada, Ontario, Alberta, BC, etc, anytime there is a ridiculous story like this it will be on every single channel there, it will be promoted as those f k ing frenchies again, etc.

When I go to Ontario and listen to the news, I am always amazed at the incredible amount of Quebec bashing there is. I literally never hear anything half good about Quebec. Much worse than anything I see or hear here in the province of Quebec against English. I hear stories there that Quebecers, English or French, do not care for here. In Ontario, they would rather give contracts to Pakistanis than French, and they train their immigrant to be Quebec and French bashing as well, I am not kidding.

Racism and Quebec bashing is very prevalent in those provinces, while the everyday living between French and English here is quite comfortable and well integrated. Most English kids speak French, most French kids on the Island of Montreal speak English, while outside where English is rarer they may have more difficulties to speak it.

We have French schools, french shops, french newspapers, french everything. I was educated in French entirely. Except for university (my choice, there is french universities as well). This is why English is not that strong with me.

on the other hand, you had few years ago for example, Céline (richard's wife) who was French but raised in English schools and her French was rather pretty weak.

French is a very difficult language and easy to massacre. And in a sea of English, easy to lose. And yes, I am demanding on my dysphasic daughter, who had problems with languages, to have a decent French so that she can communicate properly in that language. Despite dysphasia, she picked up English rather easily because it is much less complicated than French.

So you now have a small history lesson from a tiny corner of the world, with 6 millions French speaking into it and 1 million English speaking.

ps. I do not accept any reply or argument from the rest of Canada, they do not understand and do not want to, my decades of experience talking here. I will be pleased to discuss with any English speaking person from Quebec for their views, because there, real exchange can take place.

By the way, I live in an English speaking neighboroud and feel very comfortable in it.

Flash
13th March 2013, 16:45
I have the sarcastic taste to say: anywhere in the world suffering from british domination and wanting to get rid of it, come to see how, we will teach you.:)

1inMany
13th March 2013, 17:04
So we went to a new aquarium, went to a zoo, did that rain forest cafe thing. This was not nearly as fun as I would have liked. We have done all of these things before, but this time I got no enjoyment seeing living beings in cages or behind glass. I mean, I never got pleasure from that, but enjoyed these creatures so immensely that it never occurred to me before.

On the one hand (oh, here I go again, eye roll at myself), there is absolutely zero possibility of traveling to see these any of these beautiful creatures in their natural habitat. None. So, I was sending gratitude to each one that my girls could experience their wonder. On the other hand, it was hard to watch, for example, the elephant swinging it's foot in the air, some type of chain bracelet on it's ankle.

On the one hand, watching Little One reach out and touch a chocolate chip star fish was a moment of wonder second to none. He touched it, but very quickly put his hand around it and flipped it over to see the under side. That upset the lady, who explained that you can only touch it on the top. Period. Anyway, he is driven by wanting to know, wanting to see, wanting to investigate. So, screw her. I realize the majority of the kids that go through those places would hurt a creature so small, but not Little One. And learning that a jelly fish has no brain or heart or organs, and watching the lights in the tank change colors to highlight it's inner workings, well that was just awe inspiring.

On the other hand, we saw some type of condor, can't remember the species now. That was no doubt the most beautiful bird I had ever seen. The wingspan was like 6 feet. It was breath taking. And, it was in a stupid enclosure that made me sad. What good is a 6 foot wing span if all it could do was open the wings and impress people? I'm sure it longed to soar. We were also able to see several types of eagle, and we were spell bound by them as well.

Either today or tomorrow, will be returning to the country. Back to calmer energies I will return. A welcome change, that.

Much Love,

araucaria
13th March 2013, 17:13
I was quite impressed when I saw your post in it's context araucaria...of course, you spoiled the novella!! :p

Thank you donk, but I beg to disagree, something I shall refrain from doing with our Canadian friends :behindsofa:

Flash
13th March 2013, 17:15
Bureaucracy at it's finest...hahaha...
Thanks Playdo, thanks Daily Mail.

Not just in Quebec- this shyte is happening all over the globe.

Yes, Quebec is unique in the stop sign language. IIRC even France uses the word 'stop' on their stop signs. Only Quebec has it spelled in what is basically...incorrect french.

http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2011/03/only-in-quebec-is-stop-sign-language.html

I must add Carmody, that this article you just put there is typical of Quebec bashing I have seen on a regular basis. Please, do not participate in this, you are much too developed for this.

Flash
13th March 2013, 17:19
I was quite impressed when I saw your post in it's context araucaria...of course, you spoiled the novella!! :p

Thank you donk, but I beg to disagree, something I shall refrain from doing with our Canadian friends :behindsofa:

thank you............................:rolleyes:

Edit: oh! but you are not from other English speaking Canadian provinces! LOL

donk
13th March 2013, 17:26
but I beg to disagree,

Dang, now I gotta read it, I guess...

Guest
13th March 2013, 17:32
Good morning villagers.

Last week I went to another wake for a Native American Elder and after the wake his family had a 2 day long ceremony for him. Beautiful the way in which they celebrate the life of their people. He lived to be almost 100 years. A lot of history and living. A couple of years before he past, his tribe came to him and asked if he would let them write down his life. He agreed and they put his life, way of life, tribal ceremony ways, stories and thoughts on life in their tribal archives. He did a lot for the children and in the community. He also shared his culture with children and people from different tribes in his younger years.
A very patient and kind man with a lot of wisdom. He was loved and blessed.

During the ceremony I thought about the village and how we are creatinh, sharing and preserving who we all are for others and future generations. Said a a good prayer for everyone too.

After the ceremony I slept for half a day -it was intense and took it easy for a couple more.

With the new moon and all of these aspects in water; I just finished a 4 day water fast. Tough one for my little
double Leo self, but did it. Took care of my-self had a full body massage, foot reflexology and tooka couple sea salt & Epsom salt baths. All of these aspects in Picses have been a little overwhelming and watery, but I have done my best to go with it. Feeling highly sensitive. Working in my garden some, feels good to be outside in the sunshine. Not feeling in anyway like communicating ( but have peeked into the village from time to time) and have been staying off the Internet and away from electronics in general -sensory overload. I have some catching up to do in the village.

Wishing everyone a beautiful day.

Love

Nora

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th March 2013, 17:37
Thanks for the history lesson, Flash! I did not know much about that and it really puts the article into context. I see the dire need of retaining culture through language. It's an interesting phenomena. This made me recall how after the Norman invasion of Britain, French had become the prestige language, and English the vulgar. It also reminds me of our neighbors to the west, the Cajuns (Acadians) in Louisiana, that still speak French, though I understand it to be Cajun French, and not standard French.


Ulli is right, burocracy at its finest, the cracy point to be retained.

Yes, this is true, this happened. Result: the head of the Office de la langue française has given her demission (been fired), the whole world laughed at this, and the government decided to restructure the Office. I must say the whole province laughed at it too, French and English.

Now, Carmody is on the anglo side (from its education), I am on the French side. If sides there is to be?? (not for me in my heart for sure, but definitely for more close minded in both, English and French).

And yes, French have been adamant about the language here. The reason for purity is that we are in a sea of Anglos (north America) and the language was getting to a point of bastardization that was almost not coherent anylonger. This is one point of view.

The real back drop to this is a full 270+ year history between anglos and french in the province. And it has link with France and England wars as well.

But, to make is short, French were the first to colonise Canada (started in 1534, my ancestors must have gotten here around 1560, they were amongst the first - relating my family name) - oui Carmody, j'ai un de ces noms que tout le monde porte ici.

Then, British came. They made a very short, but nasty war to the French and won. One of the reason was the lack of support from the King in France, having been in war with England and wanting to concentrate on it, he abandoned his colony.

From then on, French Canada was a fully colonized province, with all that it includes. The catholic clergy helped into maintaining the French speaking
French because they were having power over them that way, while being heavily promoting the catholic faith, and this help into maintaining the division between French and English as well, which the English were happy with. French were the cheap labor for few centuries and could not, I MEAN COULD NOT climb to any position of power in corporation, in the business world, anywhere. So French hated British descent, British descent actively despised French - the British way.

I lived the remnant of it, in early seventies, I saw older people that could never make it to management because they were French (even if they spoke English). I remember shopping and not being able to be served in French. This was very well established.

Then came the fifties and the sixties. French Canada woke up. We refused the British domination, demanded access to higher level jobs, got schooled and started businesses. We realized that here we were a majority and decided to use this. This was called the quiet revolution, because nowhere in the world has a society changed sooo much without a civil war. Which was our case, no civil war. Success was really fast (SNC Lavallin one of the major engineering company in the world in French Canadian mainly, Bombardier and CAnadair are FRench mainly, Quebecor, etc.). We also started to be able to have management position at Bell and other English companies.

However, on of the way to access these innate rights (based on talent, if you want my drift) was to force the French usage in the corporations and commerce.

So a law was passed to force companies to use the language of the majority at work and in commerce (which was not the case prior, the minority language, English, was used and French had to comply). To write in French warning labels on products and product content for example, etc. And it had to be enforced. So the Office de la langue française was created with all the legal rights to have the law respected.

What happened, lately, is that there is some fanatics that have been hired by the Office and are going to the ridiculous extremes of applications of the law. They are just one or two fanatics, they will be put aside, it is happening right now. OLFQ is my customer, i have to do my billing before the month end - had forgotten, so I know how they are, this is not as bad as what is portrayed. But French has to be predominant, that is what is asked.

However, on the English side, and not from Quebecer English people but from the rest of Canada, Ontario, Alberta, BC, etc, anytime there is a ridiculous story like this it will be on every single channel there, it will be promoted as those f k ing frenchies again, etc.

When I go to Ontario and listen to the news, I am always amazed at the incredible amount of Quebec bashing there is. I literally never hear anything half good about Quebec. Much worse than anything I see or hear here in the province of Quebec against English. I hear stories there that Quebecers, English or French, do not care for here. In Ontario, they would rather give contracts to Pakistanis than French, and they train their immigrant to be Quebec and French bashing as well, I am not kidding.

Racism and Quebec bashing is very prevalent in those provinces, while the everyday living between French and English here is quite comfortable and well integrated. Most English kids speak French, most French kids on the Island of Montreal speak English, while outside where English is rarer they may have more difficulties to speak it.

We have French schools, french shops, french newspapers, french everything. I was educated in French entirely. Except for university (my choice, there is french universities as well). This is why English is not that strong with me.

on the other hand, you had few years ago for example, Céline (richard's wife) who was French but raised in English schools and her French was rather pretty weak.

French is a very difficult language and easy to massacre. And in a sea of English, easy to lose. And yes, I am demanding on my dysphasic daughter, who had problems with languages, to have a decent French so that she can communicate properly in that language. Despite dysphasia, she picked up English rather easily because it is much less complicated than French.

So you now have a small history lesson from a tiny corner of the world, with 6 millions French speaking into it and 1 million English speaking.

ps. I do not accept any reply or argument from the rest of Canada, they do not understand and do not want to, my decades of experience talking here. I will be pleased to discuss with any English speaking person from Quebec for their views, because there, real exchange can take place.

By the way, I live in an English speaking neighboroud and feel very comfortable in it.

Flash
13th March 2013, 18:38
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

Playdo of Ataraxas
13th March 2013, 19:16
That's also interesting Flash, and I did not know that about Old French, but it makes sense. I know that Creole refers to the old French that lived in the urban areas, and that the Cajuns resided in the swamps and rural areas. But because the language was mixed, doesn't that technically make Acadian French a creole language?

I did know about the expulsion of the Cajuns and their origins, but not too many details. North American history, at least what was taught to me in my school growing up, does not like the term ethnic cleansing when it refers to its own actions. I think I was taught a more genteel term for it, like diaspora or migration.

Flash
13th March 2013, 20:11
That's also interesting Flash, and I did not know that about Old French, but it makes sense. I know that Creole refers to the old French that lived in the urban areas, and that the Cajuns resided in the swamps and rural areas. But because the language was mixed, doesn't that technically make Acadian French a creole language?

I did know about the expulsion of the Cajuns and their origins, but not too many details. North American history, at least what was taught to me in my school growing up, does not like the term ethnic cleansing when it refers to its own actions. I think I was taught a more genteel term for it, like diaspora or migration.

yes, forced diaspora, ask the Acadian in the Maritimes here. The language was French when in Acadian land, but was mixed once Acadians got in Louisiana, not before.

I was wrong, it happened over many years, here is a bit more of history, on Acadians and Cajuns


Expulsion of the Acadians
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St. John River Campaign: Raid on Grimrose (present day Gagetown, New Brunswick). This is the only contemporaneous image of the Expulsion of the Acadians

The Expulsion of the Acadians, also known as the Great Upheaval, the Great Expulsion and Le Grand Dérangement, was the forced removal by the British of the Acadian people from the present day Canadian Maritime provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and also part of the US state of Maine—an area also known as Acadie. The Expulsion (1755–1763) occurred during the French and Indian War (the North American theatre of the Seven Years War). It was part of the British military campaign against New France. The British first deported Acadians to the Thirteen Colonies, and after 1758 they transported additional Acadians to France. Approximately 11,500 Acadians were deported by the British.[1]

After the British conquest of Acadia in 1710, the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht allowed the Acadians to keep their lands. Over the next forty-five years, the Acadians refused to sign an unconditional oath of allegiance to Britain. During this period, Acadians participated in various military operations against the British and maintained supply lines to the French fortresses of Louisbourg and Fort Beauséjour.[2] The British sought to eliminate future military threat posed by the Acadians and to permanently cut the supply lines they provided to Louisbourg by removing them from the area.[3][4]

Without making distinctions between the Acadians who had been neutral and those who had resisted the occupation of Acadia, the British governor Charles Lawrence and the Nova Scotia Council ordered them to be expelled.[5] In the first wave of the expulsion, Acadians were deported to other British colonies. During the second wave, they were deported to England and France, from where they migrated to Louisiana. Acadians fled initially to Francophone colonies such as Canada, the uncolonized northern part of Acadia, Isle Saint-Jean and Isle Royale. During the second wave of the expulsion, these Acadians were either imprisoned or deported. Thousands of Acadians died in the expulsions, mainly from diseases and drowning when ships were lost.

The American poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow memorialized the historic event in his poem about the plight of the fictional character Evangeline, which was popular and made the expulsion well known. According to Acadian historian Maurice Basque, the story of Evangeline continues to influence historic accounts of the deportation, emphasising neutral Acadians and de-emphasising those who resisted the British Empire.[6]
Contents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadian_deportation

1inMany
13th March 2013, 20:17
-zm6i-C0p1Y

Looking on the bright side...better than the alternative :)

Much Love,

Carmody
13th March 2013, 20:24
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

ulli
13th March 2013, 20:36
I have the sarcastic taste to say: anywhere in the world suffering from british domination and wanting to get rid of it, come to see how, we will teach you.:)

As a German who arrived in Britain in the sixties,
this was exactly the first thing that crossed my mind
when I read that earlier post of yours, also as a white woman who has lived
in the West Indies...
minority versus majority issues, and racism, bigotry....
All those experiences have helped me define the subtle division line between
what is identification, and what is individual experience and what is collective.
What is the difference between herd instinct and collective consciousness.
How to balance being an individual, true to self,
with being a member of a certain nationality or culture.

Now, if I can just drop my remaining prejudices, those I carry against bureaucrats....

Flash
13th March 2013, 20:41
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

When we are talking of bloodlines and incarnations from one group to aliens to another group, we will leave the pettiness of language stop signs or pasta in restaurant won't we. ;) The nominally comment is interesting too. ROLF

You lost me somewhere Carmody: "slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same" fine, but what about the relation with ethnic cleansing - is it because you stop the incarnation of those specific types of souls for example that do need compatible bodies therefore bloodlines ???? Just a little bit of clarification if possible please.

Malerogro
13th March 2013, 21:06
-zm6i-C0p1Y

Looking on the bright side...better than the alternative :)

Much Love,

Pfffffffffffff one of my depressed and alone days.. This might help 1inmany, thanks!

ulli
13th March 2013, 21:11
To connect the history of culture clashes to the here and now...

Even though most members of Avalon seem to have moved beyond such cultural divisions...
yet the discussion of "us versus them" or "good aliens or bad aliens?", elite versus sheeple, is still continuing, and
this here would be a good chance to start integrating dialogue about these issues.

Malerogro
13th March 2013, 21:18
This is how I feel here and now :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04l_bmp3y4Q

Flash
13th March 2013, 21:22
Very good point Ulli, I have often thought along these lines.

For me, when we say "we are awakened at Avalon" the sheeple is not, I think we are wrong. In fact, it is spiritual ego showing its ugly head.

I would rather say "we are informed here at Avalon" others are not, yet. Awakening is far more than what we have here in general imo. And to tell the truth, this is not important, the important thing is the process, we are in the process of information first, that may lead to awakening.

As for the sheeple, I have met and seen people that may look sheeple like, sometimes naive in terms of how the world works, however extremely developed in wisdom and inner work out. I have even seen people who are able of getting informed on the negativities and conspiracies, but will avoid it not because they are afraid, or want the veil over their face, but because they dive too low when listening to these information and this hampers their spiritual evolution, at least for a time - they usually do not listen to TV either. To me, these are less sheeple than most, even at Avalon. However, we would consider them sheeple at first glance.

Once again, all inclusiveness. Nobody should be left behind in our thoughts and hearts, nobody, unless they knowingly and willfully decide to stay behind.

Once we understand the working, it is time to become all inclusive. Someone split from the dark elite and decide to follow evolution, this is an inclusive world for him as well.

Malerogro
13th March 2013, 21:30
Yes I agree ulli and Flash. I only like the term sheeple to identify the proces where people follow each other blindly, which is something we all tend to sometimes. Using the term as a division of us versus them reinforces what we have done wrong for ages and therefore qualifies as a sheeple proces in itself. We are in need of a unifying concsiousness more than information I think and we should never use the information to make more destructive divisions, of which the world is full already.

Carmody
13th March 2013, 21:37
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

When we are talking of bloodlines and incarnations from one group to aliens to another group, we will leave the pettiness of language stop signs or pasta in restaurant won't we. ;) The nominally comment is interesting too. ROLF

You lost me somewhere Carmody: "slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same" fine, but what about the relation with ethnic cleansing - is it because you stop the incarnation of those specific types of souls for example that do need compatible bodies therefore bloodlines ???? Just a little bit of clarification if possible please.

i made a comment in the Dolores cannon oriented thread, by quantum odyssey.

I mentioned that in the past,when I was peaked in mental state and body..that I could slip inside of people. That you hear about this with regard to possession, and with ghosts doing this. They do this in order to feel what it is like to be in body again. To feel what it is like to be human.

The psychic Micheal Bodine (growing up psychic' is the book) talks about seeing different ghosts when he was a bartender. That the ghosts or spirits/dimensionals..people who are deceased and not wanting to go home to source yet...that these spirits would slip inside of drunks who had their guard down. I had no idea about all that stuff, I was doing such things long before. (not those specific kinds of things)

Sometimes we have dreams of being someone else here while on earth, now. Some of us are doing that while we are sleeping, and some can do it while awake. Some can do it in a lucid/dreaming state.

then we come to the idea of some people or groups..making sure that the dimensional types who might frequent a given bloodline...that those types of beings have no bodies to incarnate in. No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

ulli
13th March 2013, 21:54
Yes I agree ulli and Flash. I only like the term sheeple to identify the proces where people follow each other blindly, which is something we all tend to sometimes. Using the term as a division of us versus them reinforces what we have done wrong for ages and therefore qualifies as a sheeple proces in itself. We are in need of a unifying concsiousness more than information I think and we should never use the information to make more destructive divisions, of which the world is full already.


While western culture has gone to extremes in accommodating individuals with choices and freedoms,
there are still many other cultures where to step outside such personal behavior patterns is considered a no no.

My husband, Yukondiva and I went to do some errands in town today
after which we all had lunch in a restaurant where there were TV sets on the wall.
We arrived there just as the first puffs of white smoke rings were coming out of the Vatican roof.

Since neither one of us are Catholics we only made some funny remarks about it,
but watched in amazement as the majority of people in the place became extremely emotional and excited.

Such expression of religious fervor is definitely alienating and dividing,
as long as there are people around who cannot relate in the same way.

Flash
13th March 2013, 22:13
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

When we are talking of bloodlines and incarnations from one group to aliens to another group, we will leave the pettiness of language stop signs or pasta in restaurant won't we. ;) The nominally comment is interesting too. ROLF

You lost me somewhere Carmody: "slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same" fine, but what about the relation with ethnic cleansing - is it because you stop the incarnation of those specific types of souls for example that do need compatible bodies therefore bloodlines ???? Just a little bit of clarification if possible please.

i made a comment in the Dolores cannon oriented thread, by quantum odyssey.

I mentioned that in the past,when I was peaked in mental state and body..that I could slip inside of people. That you hear about this with regard to possession, and with ghosts doing this. They do this in order to feel what it is like to be in body again. To feel what it is like to be human.

The psychic Micheal Bodine (growing up psychic' is the book) talks about seeing different ghosts when he was a bartender. That the ghosts or spirits/dimensionals..people who are deceased and not wanting to go home to source yet...that these spirits would slip inside of drunks who had their guard down. I had no idea about all that stuff, I was doing such things long before. (not those specific kinds of things)

Sometimes we have dreams of being someone else here while on earth, now. Some of us are doing that while we are sleeping, and some can do it while awake. Some can do it in a lucid/dreaming state.

then we come to the idea of some people or groups..making sure that the dimensional types who might frequent a given bloodline...that those types of beings have no bodies to incarnate in. No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

Can anyone get in me for example if they wish? How do we guard against it. I know some people who to this to adjust their therapies, this is fine with me because it is agreed upon by all parties and it is for the good of all. But what about the malevolents (I hope they feel very uncomfortable in me... not the right bloodline hopefully) .

I had understood, it gives me the chill. I mean the ethnic cleansing and its multidimensional aspects. It also explains much at all levels.

Thanks Carmody

Flash
13th March 2013, 22:16
It feels sooo good, it is still daylight, the sun slowly going down. After those long winter nights when the sun sets at 4:00 - 5:00 Pm, this is a good feeling. Spring is coming.

skippy
13th March 2013, 22:23
Spring is coming.

Here comes the sun...

http://www.letarot.com/jean-dodal/images/scan-web-new/soleil-web.jpg

ulli
13th March 2013, 22:33
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

When we are talking of bloodlines and incarnations from one group to aliens to another group, we will leave the pettiness of language stop signs or pasta in restaurant won't we. ;) The nominally comment is interesting too. ROLF

You lost me somewhere Carmody: "slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same" fine, but what about the relation with ethnic cleansing - is it because you stop the incarnation of those specific types of souls for example that do need compatible bodies therefore bloodlines ???? Just a little bit of clarification if possible please.

i made a comment in the Dolores cannon oriented thread, by quantum odyssey.

I mentioned that in the past,when I was peaked in mental state and body..that I could slip inside of people. That you hear about this with regard to possession, and with ghosts doing this. They do this in order to feel what it is like to be in body again. To feel what it is like to be human.

The psychic Micheal Bodine (growing up psychic' is the book) talks about seeing different ghosts when he was a bartender. That the ghosts or spirits/dimensionals..people who are deceased and not wanting to go home to source yet...that these spirits would slip inside of drunks who had their guard down. I had no idea about all that stuff, I was doing such things long before. (not those specific kinds of things)

Sometimes we have dreams of being someone else here while on earth, now. Some of us are doing that while we are sleeping, and some can do it while awake. Some can do it in a lucid/dreaming state.

then we come to the idea of some people or groups..making sure that the dimensional types who might frequent a given bloodline...that those types of beings have no bodies to incarnate in. No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

Very interesting. What a perspective!
Some of the conclusions you describe I came to on my own, in 1983, while watching an alcoholic former in-law during an extreme binge. Saw the personality changes, even "saw" the long line of entities waiting to take their turn to get in there for their drink. Each binge would happen only once a year, last for two weeks, and each time there would be major accidents in the vicinity.
So I started to put the pieces of the puzzle together then...Never having read anything about people possession before, other than what I knew from the bible, where Christ drove out demons, but which I had always dismissed.
But then I found out that there could be no other explanation.

But now that we have this immense population growth on the one hand,
and taking people's methods of feeding themselves away from them on the other,
with only the crazy Monsanto solution approach for mass feeding...
what does this mean for the incarnating souls who want an earth experience?
When no mainstream knowledge is around giving explanations for the true purpose of such incarnation?

And at the other end...after death...the endless line of entities who lost their bodies,
and have no clue what to do with themselves once they have died, yet are still conscious of existing...
I can see now why humanity might need more people like you who do service in two dimensions.

donk
13th March 2013, 22:35
I seen it happen way too often for me flash, my gf has a tasty body &/or bloodline and predisposition to alcohol.

Mix in an abused childhood followed by abusive relationship (unhealed trauma) and addiction to drama and its a recipe for a horrorshow.

I don't think it's easy to slip in someone the least bit aware, but definitely possible. I feel I was hijacked for a moment, lost about half minute and friend (who the dude jumped into, when I didn't fit well I guess) said I was saying **** but it wasn't me

I may not have believed him if I hadn't seen the exact same in (& outa) him as I regained my sovereignty. Dude couldn't stay long in my (awake) friend either.

It's a trip cuz they can pretend to be the person they jack

Hervé
13th March 2013, 22:49
[...]

No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

What a certain Laura Knight-Jadczyk has been warning about:




A: We wish to review some things first. The concept of a "master race" put forward by the Nazis was merely a 4th density STS effort to create a physical vehicle with the correct frequency resonance vibration for 4th density STS souls to occupy in 3rd density. It was also a "trial run" for planned events in what you perceive to be your future.

Q: (L) You mean with a strong STS frequency so they can have a "vehicle" in 3rd density, so to speak?

A: Correct. Frequency resonance vibration! Very important.

Q: (L) So, that is why they are programming and experimenting? And all these folks running around who some think are "programmed," could be individuals who are raising their nastiness levels high enough to accommodate the truly negative STS 4th density - sort of like walk-ins or something, only not nice ones?

A: You do not have very many of those present yet, but that was, and still is, the plan of some of the 4th density STS types.

Q: (A) And that's who are operating the helicopters?

A: Helicopters are STS 3rd density, no doubt influenced from 4th density STS.

[...]

A: All are possible futures, just wait and see. There is an alien race that has plans to replace your physical vehicles with a new "model."

Q: (L) What are they going to do with the old models?

A: "Retire them."

Q: (T) Which race is this?

A: Orion STS.

Q: (L) Is this essentially what happened with Neanderthal?

A: Yup!

Q: (L) Well, for a period of time it seems that they continued to exist on the planet alongside the new model, cro-magnon or whatever.

A: Some did.

Q: (L) For how long did Neanderthal exist side by side with the "new model?"

A: 233 years.

Q: (L) I thought that Neanderthal was here for a long, long, long time; and if modern man arrived on the planet, as you say, 70 to 80 thousand years ago, wasn't Neanderthal already here then?

A: Time references have been miscalculated.

Q: (L) Who miscalculated the time references?

A: Science.

Q: (L) What is the oldest Neanderthal that's been found? Anybody know? No, well then when did Neanderthal appear on the planet?

A: 5.3 million years ago.

Q: (L) You are saying that when science says that modern man appeared 35 to 40 thousand years ago, and Neanderthal disappeared at the same time, the real time frame was 70 to 80 thousand years ago? In other words, a factor of 2 error.

A: Close.

Q: (L) And, of course, we can't depend on any of the dating methods because of metamorphosis.

A: And genetic manipulation.

Q: (L) So, in effect, we ARE the new Neanderthals on the eve of extinction. You have said that those who transition into 4th density in the body will go through some kind of rejuvenation process or body regeneration or something. Does that mean that these present "Neanderthal" type bodies that we presently occupy will morph into something more in line with the new model? Is it genetically encoded into some of them to do so?

A: Something like that.

Q: (L) So, that's why they have been following certain bloodlines for generation after generation; they are tinkering with the DNA and arming genetic time-bombs that are waiting to go off. (A) What is interesting is how do those who are trying to get these people, to abduct them, how do they spot them? How do they get the information? By following the bloodline, or by some kind of monitor you can detect from a long distance - and they can note that "here is somebody of interest" or "here is somebody dangerous" or "let's abduct this one" or whatever. How do they select? Do they search the genealogies or is it some kind of remote sensing?

A: Now this is interesting Arkadiusz, as it involves the atomic "signature" of the cellular structure of the individual. In concert with this is the etheric body reading and the frequency resonance vibration. All these are interconnected, and can be read from a distance using remote viewing technology/methodology.

Q: (L) Can it be done in a pure mechanical way without using psychic means?

A: At another level of understanding, the two are blended into one.

Q: (T) Computerized psychic remote viewing, maybe. Like artificial intelligence. Maybe a mind connected to a computer?

A: That is close, yes.

ulli
13th March 2013, 22:59
Interesting Playdo, did you know that Cajun French in Louisiana is old French that has been extensively mixed with English and some Indian languages. However, I can somewhat still follow sometimes.

But most interesting in regard to the history lessons, did you know that Cajun French are in fact French Canadian living in Nova Scotia mostly that have been deported in mass to Louisiana and elsewhere. This was literally ethnic cleansing. The families were separated, many died, they were forcefully put in boats and there you go. Boats and boats of them. It all happened over one summer only.

So yes, it gives more of the history of the continent.

And when I think of it, maybe they were right, otherwise they would have had, few centuries later, another quebec problem.....!!!

This is why I ended up in a nominally French Canadian blood line, in this life. The Family name came over from France, in the 1700's.

I was Louisiana French in the US civil war, alien humanoid for 40 years, then human earth again (now).

This the bit about being able to slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same. In this case, the match had to be good enough that the wiring was complimentary. Compatible for a life incarnation, not just some simple bits.

This falls into being possibly the reasons behind ethnic cleansing and the utter destruction of family bloodlines.

When we are talking of bloodlines and incarnations from one group to aliens to another group, we will leave the pettiness of language stop signs or pasta in restaurant won't we. ;) The nominally comment is interesting too. ROLF

You lost me somewhere Carmody: "slip into people as their baseline wiring is the same" fine, but what about the relation with ethnic cleansing - is it because you stop the incarnation of those specific types of souls for example that do need compatible bodies therefore bloodlines ???? Just a little bit of clarification if possible please.

i made a comment in the Dolores cannon oriented thread, by quantum odyssey.

I mentioned that in the past,when I was peaked in mental state and body..that I could slip inside of people. That you hear about this with regard to possession, and with ghosts doing this. They do this in order to feel what it is like to be in body again. To feel what it is like to be human.

The psychic Micheal Bodine (growing up psychic' is the book) talks about seeing different ghosts when he was a bartender. That the ghosts or spirits/dimensionals..people who are deceased and not wanting to go home to source yet...that these spirits would slip inside of drunks who had their guard down. I had no idea about all that stuff, I was doing such things long before. (not those specific kinds of things)

Sometimes we have dreams of being someone else here while on earth, now. Some of us are doing that while we are sleeping, and some can do it while awake. Some can do it in a lucid/dreaming state.

then we come to the idea of some people or groups..making sure that the dimensional types who might frequent a given bloodline...that those types of beings have no bodies to incarnate in. No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

Can anyone get in me for example if they wish? How do we guard against it. I know some people who to this to adjust their therapies, this is fine with me because it is agreed upon by all parties and it is for the good of all. But what about the malevolents (I hope they feel very uncomfortable in me... not the right bloodline hopefully) .

I had understood, it gives me the chill. I mean the ethnic cleansing and its multidimensional aspects. It also explains much at all levels.

Thanks Carmody

Curious to read Carmody's answer. Here is mine:
How to guard against outside entities entering?
This is what I do.: I watch myself....observe myself....I create myself... I bring myself to account...
I contemplate a lot.
This relationship with self is the only way. If everyone else did this we would have a decent civilization.
Nobody makes me do anything, what I do is voluntary.
I remember the two main things, maintain my radiance and keep fear in check.
Admittedly I also don't put myself in harm's way. Astrology has helped me a lot.
If and when an impulse comes that prompts me to harm myself or others I don't act on it.
I see that it coincides with planetary transits, which open those weird inter-dimensional portals,
and I patiently wait for them to pass.
I try not to complain, or express negative emotions. (Gurdjieff training)
I follow the Golden Rule, which is do not do to another as you do not wish to be done by, paraphrasing here.

Thoughts, impulses, emotions....none of this matters as much as the trail of one's deeds.
It's my deeds that leave the record....not my inner turmoil processes of confusion.
Before age 15 no responsibility, after 15, yes, responsibility.
The idea that there is no right and wrong is wrong in my view. An example of New Age perversion.
But then again, this idea might have helped to free people from archaic rules, before they are ready to accept cosmic laws.
But while in a state of lawlessness one is vulnerable to entities entering. Law and order is protection.
Moderation to me is a cosmic law, which I abide by. I avoid extremes. I seek the balance point.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to make this list.

Samsara
13th March 2013, 22:59
I see that the "pastagate" has found its way Here & Now. Too funny (and not, when you think of all the bureaucratic bull... going on). Thank you Flash for explaining so well what this was all about.

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Playdo of Ataraxas
13th March 2013, 23:06
As for the sheeple, I have met and seen people that may look sheeple like, sometimes naive in terms of how the world works, however extremely developed in wisdom and inner work out. I have even seen people who are able of getting informed on the negativities and conspiracies, but will avoid it not because they are afraid, or want the veil over their face, but because they dive too low when listening to these information and this hampers their spiritual evolution, at least for a time - they usually do not listen to TV either. To me, these are less sheeple than most, even at Avalon. However, we would consider them sheeple at first glance.


That's a very good point Flash. For example, when we speak of rising above cultural and familial influences that deter us from seeking the truth, I find that there is a fine line between trying to educate others and trying to change others. Among my own friends who are on the path of discovery I have more opportunities to speak my mind and teach/learn and learn/teach. With my family it's much more difficult.

This past weekend, I went on a fishing trip to blue water out of Venice, Louisiana with my brothers, father, and two cousins. In this particular situation, I am quickly pariahed (if I can make that a verb) due to my opinions and the information I share. I shared the information about castoreum to them, and my father was quick to report that I was full of sh!t and so are all those internet sites that I read. (Hey Mods, is there an emoticon for an overly exaggerated eye roll? I really need one here, thanks!) To the point, it's easy to dismiss something as quatsch if you are not ready to accept it. And, if I go beyond my cultural and familial reality-boundary that disregards the status-quo, like Icke describes so well, they turn on me like wolves. So, suffice it to say, I keep my mouth shut alot, but I still can't help dropping the occasional discordian bomb on them.

Another example, on the drive down there, Jackson through New Orleans to Venice, I witnessed some of the heaviest non-stop chemtrail spraying in a while. Plane after plane crisscrossing paths, smothering the sky with whatever the hell it is they are spraying. I pointed it out to my brother and father, and I was ridiculed and admonished for even thinking that something was being done without our consent or knowledge, and against our benefit. And it's right there in front of our eyes! Sleek lines, even sometimes led by that sinister looking dark streak ahead of the trail (what the hell is that dark streak by the way?). Each line feathering and spreading insidiously throughout the sky. I mean, c'mon! It's so obvious it ain't a contrail of condensed water vapor that disapears near instantly. I'm a kook in my family's eyes, but yet they still love me. I can't complain too much, I guess. To each their own.

ulli
13th March 2013, 23:42
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.
Don't want to go into the reason why other than that I used to be a bit like her...
And was going around warning people of the bad stuff that was coming,
instead of empowering them to the potential they had within.
While having their fear oven stoked works for some, and I don't deny this,
as some of it helped me wake up, too,
yet I'd now much rather focus on the alternative option, which is to have everyone's light shine brighter...
Turn up the dimmer switch, people.
Much easier than worry about which ETs will do what...
Then let the moths come to your candles and see what happens.

To illustrate this attitude some more...
I drive in the crazy traffic conditions of Costa Rica, and have figured out how to get home safely.
I look out to the front, and focus my eyes on the empty spaces ahead of me.
Sometimes I can see several hundred yards ahead, and it looks to me like the parting waters of the Red Sea.

Meanwhile I had this neurotic friend who was the most fearful backseat driver I ever encountered...
who kept pointing out what was going on inside the other cars.
Like, 'watch that car on your right, woman driver talking on her cell phone', or 'that guy is hung-over, he might do such and such'. On and on, this person was seeing danger everywhere.
After six months of reading Laura and Ark's The Wave I realized the effect this was having on me...it was turning me into that neurotic backseat driver. Instead of focusing on getting home I was imagining what was happening inside other drivers heads.
So I made my choice and left that path.

eaglespirit
14th March 2013, 00:01
Glad I checked in Village : )
Wonderful discussion and contemplations and suggestions.

I am personally in the worst of conditions yet the best of conditions right now here in Peru...if that makes sense...and it is all good, imho!
Right up the middle is purity and selfless creation while evenly caressing Everyone's betterment in front of and all around in the immediate now...to the best I may moment to moment, it's working!

On a grander scale I have the Energy of the Mountains enhancing everything...being in rhythm and touch with this is astounding....yes Ulli...Cosmically : )

Each of Us has the innate ability to change the course of human expansion in glorious ways now, imho..moment to moment more powerfully than ever...COUNT on Yourselves to change everything You are discussing for the better of All...by actively changing everything in front of You that You are feeling needs a 'higher' rub, right then and there, silently or not so silently...GO with Your Heart : )

astrid
14th March 2013, 00:11
Yes the getting on and off "paths" is an interesting thing,
just today i was offered to be initiated into a particular tradition,
I'm tempted, but I'm also mindful of following any path than
that of my soul's true purpose. So i shall be consulting with my
higher help on this one. Mind you this particular brand of magic
is one that i have always been drawn to , even as a 2 year old,
so maybe its something I'm re-membering.

11.11

yukondiva
14th March 2013, 00:42
So we went to a new aquarium, went to a zoo, did that rain forest cafe thing. This was not nearly as fun as I would have liked. We have done all of these things before, but this time I got no enjoyment seeing living beings in cages or behind glass. I mean, I never got pleasure from that, but enjoyed these creatures so immensely that it never occurred to me before.

On the one hand (oh, here I go again, eye roll at myself), there is absolutely zero possibility of traveling to see these any of these beautiful creatures in their natural habitat. None. So, I was sending gratitude to each one that my girls could experience their wonder. On the other hand, it was hard to watch, for example, the elephant swinging it's foot in the air, some type of chain bracelet on it's ankle.

On the one hand, watching Little One reach out and touch a chocolate chip star fish was a moment of wonder second to none. He touched it, but very quickly put his hand around it and flipped it over to see the under side. That upset the lady, who explained that you can only touch it on the top. Period. Anyway, he is driven by wanting to know, wanting to see, wanting to investigate. So, screw her. I realize the majority of the kids that go through those places would hurt a creature so small, but not Little One. And learning that a jelly fish has no brain or heart or organs, and watching the lights in the tank change colors to highlight it's inner workings, well that was just awe inspiring.

On the other hand, we saw some type of condor, can't remember the species now. That was no doubt the most beautiful bird I had ever seen. The wingspan was like 6 feet. It was breath taking. And, it was in a stupid enclosure that made me sad. What good is a 6 foot wing span if all it could do was open the wings and impress people? I'm sure it longed to soar. We were also able to see several types of eagle, and we were spell bound by them as well.

Either today or tomorrow, will be returning to the country. Back to calmer energies I will return. A welcome change, that.

Much Love,
Zoos can be wonderful but also depressing. That is why I left my zoo job and moved to costarica to work at a wildlife rehab center many moons ago. However I found that the egos were so large even in people trying to save animals that I dropped out of that world altogether. Today I cannot go to zoos as they depress me. I sacrificed my life for the animals in my care, and twenty years later am still suffering from all the hard work I did when I was young. It was the hardest thing to do, walk away from that life. But it made me realize that at that time my whole identity was based on how impressed people were about what I did. I would never change all the wonderful interactions I had as it taught me so much. But I also saw animals in other facilities that had been abused, and we took in animals used for scientific research to save their lives. Nowadays most animals are born in captivity many generations. The sad part is that allot of them are endangered in their habitats due to poaching. Zoos are a neccesary evil for the continuation of the species. Thru them people can feel empathy and hopefully feel compelled to get involved to save what is left in the wild.
The purpose of zoos is to save species to eventually reintroduce them into their natural habitat when humanity becomes intellegent enough to realize that they are an important part of a biodiversity. Sadly this has not happened, and who knows when we will become enlightened enough to do so.

astrid
14th March 2013, 00:43
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Once a cat always a cat

Hervé
14th March 2013, 00:53
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.
[...]

I do get your point.

Did you get mine with regard to Carmody and Flash comments re bloodlines, etc?

1inMany
14th March 2013, 01:10
Zoos can be wonderful but also depressing. That is why I left my zoo job and moved to costarica to work at a wildlife rehab center many moons ago. However I found that the egos were so large even in people trying to save animals that I dropped out of that world altogether. Today I cannot go to zoos as they depress me. I sacrificed my life for the animals in my care, and twenty years later am still suffering from all the hard work I did when I was young. It was the hardest thing to do, walk away from that life. But it made me realize that at that time my whole identity was based on how impressed people were about what I did. I would never change all the wonderful interactions I had as it taught me so much. But I also saw animals in other facilities that had been abused, and we took in animals used for scientific research to save their lives. Nowadays most animals are born in captivity many generations. The sad part is that allot of them are endangered in their habitats due to poaching. Zoos are a neccesary evil for the continuation of the species. Thru them people can feel empathy and hopefully feel compelled to get involved to save what is left in the wild.
The purpose of zoos is to save species to eventually reintroduce them into their natural habitat when humanity becomes intelligent enough to realize that they are an important part of a biodiversity. Sadly this has not happened, and who knows when we will become enlightened enough to do so.

You know, now that you said that, I do remember reading a couple of the information posts there that said those particular species born in captivity were released into the wild. Oh, that makes me feel so much better. Thanks yukondiva :)

One thing I did see this time that was new was that they were allowing (charging) people to feed the giraffes (some kind of greens). I adore giraffes, always have. I have no idea why, but I could sit and adore them for hours. Anyway, that means the giraffes were so close I could almost reach out and touch them. That was crazy kind of awesome.

Oh, and the cats. The male lions were taking turns making their voices known. They weren't full out roaring, but what they were doing I swear was what you were talking about when they kind of cough, not purr. I'll tell you, if they really let loose their roars, I think my hair would have blown back and the ground would have shaken. They are powerful, powerful animals.

Much Love,

1inMany
14th March 2013, 01:28
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.

Now, isn't that something. Me, too. I stopped short of reading all the material. The Wave opened me up to understanding so much about energy and was an introduction to the non-visible world, possible future stuff. Ironic that the very information that opened up my understanding then pushed me away because of the energy I was feeling from the words later on.

My experience with that material also taught me an invaluable lesson, about how individual our paths are...some will be drawn to that material, some will be repelled by it. Some will be familiar with it, others having never heard of it. It is quite interesting to me how we are all here at the same time, and do have some of this human experience in common, yet that every single person can get "there" via different paths. This still amazes me.

Where did I see this video recently...about waking up to the fact that we are all one? In each of us are set triggers, what will wake us up and when... Awake, aware, consciousness...no one at any point is better, the best scenario imo is actually when we are all seeing and acting on those individual triggers. And even if it is possible that some will not hear or see them, not notice them, and thus remain in a timeline of doom, that is okay too. That still does not make any self better than any other self, we are all selves, all part of a whole even if we don't remember it right this minute.

And recently, a memory of bloodlines has entered my consciousness. The village is full of syncs and messages for me these days, even if I am not voicing this. Thank you All :)

Keeping you all in my heart,

Carmody
14th March 2013, 01:50
I seen it happen way too often for me flash, my gf has a tasty body &/or bloodline and predisposition to alcohol.

Mix in an abused childhood followed by abusive relationship (unhealed trauma) and addiction to drama and its a recipe for a horrorshow.

I don't think it's easy to slip in someone the least bit aware, but definitely possible. I feel I was hijacked for a moment, lost about half minute and friend (who the dude jumped into, when I didn't fit well I guess) said I was saying **** but it wasn't me

I may not have believed him if I hadn't seen the exact same in (& outa) him as I regained my sovereignty. Dude couldn't stay long in my (awake) friend either.

It's a trip cuz they can pretend to be the person they jack

They can't read the consciousness, it's too unique in the forebrain wiring, is the general deal. I say general, as I really don't know. Personal experience says that a full reading or blending with the consciousnesses ..difficult at best. I never got any of that part. Just the emotional body on down. Ie, ego and on down.

I think that this is pretty darned far from unique, but that most won't talk about it.

ulli
14th March 2013, 01:57
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.
[...]

I do get your point.

Did you get mine with regard to Carmody and Flash comments re bloodlines, etc?

Yes, I got your point.
And there may well be truth in what they say about the interference,
but I'm sincerely hoping that there will be many who can't be touched.
When it comes to species extinction scenarios I refuse to dwell there
nor do I care if some accuse me of being in denial.
My heart is telling me that life will continue, and that humanity is about to enter a golden age.
That the confusion we are seeing is transitional chaos.

Also my understanding of the matter of incarnation is different...
namely that entry is chosen by using planetary patterns.
I've been an astrologer too long to see things in other ways,
although I know that those ways are also true.
Just not my field of expertise.

I basically see the whole universe as something too huge for me to comprehend...
except that there is essential balance,
and that my belief in such balance stabilizes and protects my own existence,
making me invisible to predators.
I also believe that by mixing bloodlines and even races a new humanity will come about,
one that will be healthier spiritually than earlier generations
which came from specific "purer" bloodlines.

ulli
14th March 2013, 02:15
I seen it happen way too often for me flash, my gf has a tasty body &/or bloodline and predisposition to alcohol.

Mix in an abused childhood followed by abusive relationship (unhealed trauma) and addiction to drama and its a recipe for a horrorshow.

I don't think it's easy to slip in someone the least bit aware, but definitely possible. I feel I was hijacked for a moment, lost about half minute and friend (who the dude jumped into, when I didn't fit well I guess) said I was saying **** but it wasn't me

I may not have believed him if I hadn't seen the exact same in (& outa) him as I regained my sovereignty. Dude couldn't stay long in my (awake) friend either.

It's a trip cuz they can pretend to be the person they jack

They can't read the consciousness, it's too unique in the forebrain wiring, is the general deal. I say general, as I really don't know. Personal experience says that a full reading or blending with the consciousnesses ..difficult at best. I never got any of that part. Just the emotional body on down. Ie, ego and on down.

I think that this is pretty darned far from unique, but that most won't talk about it.

These are my musings on this:
Higher consciousness can never be understood by lower-level beings, it must be earned, through desire at first, through longing, striving, and finally the courage to take a leap of faith.
Just like calculus cannot be understood by a child at kindergarten level that wants to be like the older kids, but has to go through the growth stages.
And then higher consciousness descends and lends a helping hand, and gives glimpses of possibilities, by producing guides, or teachers.
They offer the manual, how to proceed to get there.
And finally when all the tests have been passed, and the lessons learned, a secret doorway opens and one enters the next level.
One can still visit the earlier levels but becomes invisible to those who dwell there. Unless one chooses to give a glimpse of oneself.

For example, the longing for freedom amongst slaves alone would never have brought that freedom
had it not been granted by those in power positions to change the laws, and remove the restrictions.

ulli
14th March 2013, 03:04
By the way...mustn't forget...
we are only a few days away from the 1 million views mark:

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Flash
14th March 2013, 03:16
I seen it happen way too often for me flash, my gf has a tasty body &/or bloodline and predisposition to alcohol.

Mix in an abused childhood followed by abusive relationship (unhealed trauma) and addiction to drama and its a recipe for a horrorshow.

I don't think it's easy to slip in someone the least bit aware, but definitely possible. I feel I was hijacked for a moment, lost about half minute and friend (who the dude jumped into, when I didn't fit well I guess) said I was saying **** but it wasn't me

I may not have believed him if I hadn't seen the exact same in (& outa) him as I regained my sovereignty. Dude couldn't stay long in my (awake) friend either.

It's a trip cuz they can pretend to be the person they jack

They can't read the consciousness, it's too unique in the forebrain wiring, is the general deal. I say general, as I really don't know. Personal experience says that a full reading or blending with the consciousnesses ..difficult at best. I never got any of that part. Just the emotional body on down. Ie, ego and on down.

I think that this is pretty darned far from unique, but that most won't talk about it.

Higher consciousness can never be understood by lower-level beings, it must be earned,
through desire at first, through longing, striving, and finally the courage to take a leap of faith.
And then higher consciousness descends and lends a helping hand, and gives glimpses of possibilities, by producing guides, or teachers.
They offer the manual, how to proceed to get there.
And finally when all the tests have been passed, and the lessons learned, a secret doorway opens and one enters the next level.
One can still visit the earlier levels but becomes invisible to those who dwell there. Unless one chooses to give a glimpse of oneself.

For example, the longing for freedom amongst slaves alone would never have brought that freedom
had it not been granted by those in power positions to change the laws, and remove the restrictions.

Strange that you link this to slavery Ulli, aren't we in a global planetary slavery right now? If so, how can we expect the Elite or PTB or dracos to give us any freedom? The door opening through them, i doubt it. Their hand may have to be forced. It makes me think of someone once telling me it was karma, and I answered that my karma was to stop her. The job has to be done by us, wishfull thinking or magical happenings are not enough to have people as deeply ingrained in their ownerships change at what seems the flip of fingers. Lots of work usually is done prior by the slaves.

As for slipping into people, I never tried it - I may lack curiosity!! I do think that strong individual cannot be taken this way easily.

Thanks Carmody for stating that it is the ego and below that is felt or lived, not the higher functions. Therefore, telepathy would be a completely different thing and different talents/energies involved. Wrong or right?

Second, as Carmody wrote earlier on


Sometimes we have dreams of being someone else here while on earth, now. Some of us are doing that while we are sleeping, and some can do it while awake. Some can do it in a lucid/dreaming state.

then we come to the idea of some people or groups..making sure that the dimensional types who might frequent a given bloodline...that those types of beings have no bodies to incarnate in. No bodies or wiring types that they are comfortable with. Those bloodlines get slaughtered, by the NWO types, or those kinds of people who understand how this really works.

So, when a group of being, say NWO, wants to get rid of another group, they just kill the bloodline. When higher beings, who want to incarnate in some bloodlines and throw away their competition, they just kill the bloodlines that would make competitive souls possible to incarnate, through ethnic cleansing.

On the other hand, group disappearance, such as Neanderthals, may not be ethnic cleansing, meaning competition between different soul groups, but rather evolution planned by the Universe, source, call it what you want. This if Neanderthal man souls were getting too evolved to incarnate in that kind of body. Or it may be competitive souls groups, making sure one disappears..

The way I see it, you have the regressive or service to self, who will arrange for the disappearance of bloodlines allowing non regressive ones to incarnate, through ethnic cleansing or similar means. Good way to take over a planet, a galaxy.

While the other side, Service To Others, won't harm anybody while trying to compete. Then what do they have in their pocket to be able to at least be equal in force, since they will not kill in mass, on average? In fact, since they won't kill usually at all.

Which leads to another question: is this part of a greater plan, mass killing allowing for evolution in one way or another? Having STS do the job for us? or do we, STO, have to go to an extreme of survival or existence in order to evolve thanks to opponents of great force? Is this all necessary?

When i remember reading what you went through in the other life just before earth, what was the purpose? And ending up here with still more struggle?? To sharpen your soul and ......???

A sudden hunch: this is why this actual time is so crucial, this is the time when it will be determine which kind of soul continue to incarnate here, STO or STS, and their level, the other counterpart not being able to come in anylonger.

I knew this but what I did not understand was the extend of tools used to skew the results towards either side. How deep it went.

I bet that the human choice will have an impact on the whole galaxy. It opens and close the doors to a whole array of beings and a whole array of incarnational choices. The vibrational compatibilities, that is what is being fought for right now.

Thanks Carmody, it went around in my head to come back to what you said in a single sentence. lol. I now feel dumb.

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By the way...mustn't forget...
we are only a few days away from the 1 million views mark:

Replies: 28,955
Views: 993,358

Oh no, I am not getting in that slippery road. Last time I started the party it made a whole weird situation.

I pass.

Day like another one.

1inMany
14th March 2013, 03:17
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/031013/animated-gif-atheism.gif

Chuckle.

ulli
14th March 2013, 03:31
@Flash...who wrote:

"Strange that you link this to slavery Ulli, aren't we in a global planetary slavery right now?
If so, how can we expect the Elite or PTB or dracos to give us any freedom?
The door opening through them, i doubt it.
Their hand may have to be forced.
It makes me think of someone once telling me it was karma, and I answered that my karma was to stop her.
The job has to be done by us, wishfull thinking or magical happenings are not enough to have people as deeply ingrained in their ownerships change at what seems the flip of fingers. Lots of work usually is done prior by the slaves."

To be honest, I think this is debatable. While there are definitely signs of slavery
there are also signs of freedom, and of possibility of escape,
as well as of "slave masters" who are generously offering amnesty.
There are many good people in positions of power who have the best of mankind at heart.
Who are loving and sincere.
Not only is the elite made up of 'black hats' and 'white hats',
but within each member there is a mixture of goodwill and need for personal survival.

No one person has all the power, and those who are identified with institutions
usually have less power than someone who has escaped the trappings of
material society, with it's status symbols, and lives a simple life.

ulli
14th March 2013, 03:38
By the way...mustn't forget...
we are only a few days away from the 1 million views mark:

Replies: 28,955
Views: 993,358

Oh no, I am not getting in that slippery road. Last time I started the party it made a whole weird situation.

I pass.

Day like another one.


It was not your fault....some coincidences are just that.

astrid
14th March 2013, 04:47
Oh lookie its a movie,

Marina Abramovic: The Artist Is Present
A documentary that follows the Serbian performance artist as she prepares for
a retrospective of her work at The Museum of Modern Art in New York.

Full movie here..

http://www.movie2k.to/Marina-Abramovic-The-Artist-Is-Present-watch-movie-1867849.html

Carmody
14th March 2013, 06:30
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.
Don't want to go into the reason why other than that I used to be a bit like her...
And was going around warning people of the bad stuff that was coming,
instead of empowering them to the potential they had within.
While having their fear oven stoked works for some, and I don't deny this,
as some of it helped me wake up, too,
yet I'd now much rather focus on the alternative option, which is to have everyone's light shine brighter...
Turn up the dimmer switch, people.
Much easier than worry about which ETs will do what...
Then let the moths come to your candles and see what happens.

To illustrate this attitude some more...
I drive in the crazy traffic conditions of Costa Rica, and have figured out how to get home safely.
I look out to the front, and focus my eyes on the empty spaces ahead of me.
Sometimes I can see several hundred yards ahead, and it looks to me like the parting waters of the Red Sea.

Meanwhile I had this neurotic friend who was the most fearful backseat driver I ever encountered...
who kept pointing out what was going on inside the other cars.
Like, 'watch that car on your right, woman driver talking on her cell phone', or 'that guy is hung-over, he might do such and such'. On and on, this person was seeing danger everywhere.
After six months of reading Laura and Ark's The Wave I realized the effect this was having on me...it was turning me into that neurotic backseat driver. Instead of focusing on getting home I was imagining what was happening inside other drivers heads.
So I made my choice and left that path.

The big problem, as I see it, is that we can have this information brought to us, at the same time we live in a matrix and projection of fear. Fear due to our inability to understand the wholeness of it all. We are not empowered and the same time we feel we are discovering nasty things. The empowerment pathway needs to be found at the same time, one would hope. Possibly even found before.

There is, relatively speaking, no danger, but at the same time, the dangers are real. Walking down the street kind of danger. Limited in scope and size. People can step into that area and engage that side of existence if they wish, but until the 'mind projection' becomes clear on many components of it, it can be an unknown and thus difficult to navigate with the sureness required. I knew this going in, as I used logic to probe what I was dealing with. At the same time, it will induce a sort of madness, until the mind reforms around the new information. New information that is fundamental and deep.

If one was to, for example, get a full and clear answer from a certain person in this thread about what they do with their time..I'm sure it would seem like a very difficult to comprehend communication. The connection is individual to the mind and translating it to something that is of general use, as in the general use of language and understanding in this world..that translation is difficult at best.

All one can do is indicate that there is definitely something there, something real to investigate and ponder. Something (developed two way information flow) that will come to the individual in a very unique and individual way. I used the Jiddu krishnamurti quotes to try and say that, as anything too far off the path of normalcy would only skew the situation more than it was.

astrid
14th March 2013, 07:09
W7O887P4cWc

Just in from Tom

meeradas
14th March 2013, 07:22
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/482648_626320720730718_219394374_n.jpg

araucaria
14th March 2013, 09:52
@Flash...who wrote:

"Strange that you link this to slavery Ulli, aren't we in a global planetary slavery right now?
If so, how can we expect the Elite or PTB or dracos to give us any freedom?
The door opening through them, i doubt it.
Their hand may have to be forced.
It makes me think of someone once telling me it was karma, and I answered that my karma was to stop her.
The job has to be done by us, wishfull thinking or magical happenings are not enough to have people as deeply ingrained in their ownerships change at what seems the flip of fingers. Lots of work usually is done prior by the slaves."

To be honest, I think this is debatable. While there are definitely signs of slavery
there are also signs of freedom, and of possibility of escape,
as well as of "slave masters" who are generously offering amnesty.
There are many good people in positions of power who have the best of mankind at heart.
Who are loving and sincere.
Not only is the elite made up of 'black hats' and 'white hats',
but within each member there is a mixture of goodwill and need for personal survival.

No one person has all the power, and those who are identified with institutions
usually have less power than someone who has escaped the trappings of
material society, with it's status symbols, and lives a simple life.

For good example of a mixture of oversimplistic attitudes to good and bad in people, especially those with power, take the former Cardinal Bergoglio. As a Jesuit (bad), there is doubt over his role during the dark years in Argentina: maybe he didn’t protect some of his left-leaning order, who disappeared. So there were Jesuits on both sides of that conflict – this means that whatever side you take, some Jesuits are good people.



For some, the new pope is a good man, who looks after the poor and lives a simple personal life, taking the animal-lover Francis of Assissi as his role model. For others, if he is in that top job, then he cannot be a good man. And they will likely discover that Berg in German means mountain and oglio in Italian means eye, put two and two together and decide that he is the eye on the pyramid. They will likely speculate that he was smuggled away to Argentina in a U-boat at the end of the war as a 9-year-old fascist.

Let me put a more positive slant on all this. The major issue this time around was choosing between a pro-Curia cardinal and a reformist. The Curia are called the Romans, so the Petrus Romanus scenario could have been any one of those guys getting in; so possibly choosing a reformist from the other side of the planet was the best answer to derailing the apocalyptic game plan and inflicting an unexpected defeat on the divided Romans.

Given that the plan was/is to destroy the Church, it is worth looking at why we might want to preserve it in some form, and how it might be turned more unambiguously into a force for good. One obvious area of competence is prayer. When they say the conclave is inspired by the Holy Spirit, it means that over a hundred people gathered together with a single common focus, and with countless millions outside also focusing on that purpose, the outcome will be the right one for that particular situation. These are large-scale Intention experiments that didn’t wait for Lynne McTaggart to call them that. Hence choosing a pope is something that just about everyone is involved in to some extent, regardless of their views on popery: might as well do it consciously and positively. Since, regardless of our views on leadership, leaders do provide leadership to many (including many who claim otherwise), better have good leaders providing good leadership; which is done by using the same focus that got them elected to guide them every step of the way. A good leader knows that they are not towing people behind him, they are being pushed.


This is how it works, and has been working up till now. Ratzinger got in on this principle and was thrown out on this principle, when he no longer had this spiritual constituency to carry on. The mechanics of his resignation in relation to this or that scandal or agenda are ultimately irrelevant details. Collectively we went to the brink, had a good look down, and have now stepped back.

Lisab
14th March 2013, 11:08
If we're all getting upgrades, why not the church? I actually feel quite positive about the new pope. Brilliant post Aruacaria and Ulli too.

eaglespirit
14th March 2013, 11:28
All I know is there are alot of 'Jose's' in my life lately in front of me...
So I'm just gonna 'hose' it all down and clean it all up with a little help from my higher friends!!!

Samsara
14th March 2013, 12:03
This young man gives me hope.

h11u3vtcpaY

“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life.” -John Lennon

ulli
14th March 2013, 12:12
@Amzer Zo
Laura and the Cassiopaeans once were part of my path, but I left it.
Don't want to go into the reason why other than that I used to be a bit like her...
And was going around warning people of the bad stuff that was coming,
instead of empowering them to the potential they had within.
While having their fear oven stoked works for some, and I don't deny this,
as some of it helped me wake up, too,
yet I'd now much rather focus on the alternative option, which is to have everyone's light shine brighter...
Turn up the dimmer switch, people.
Much easier than worry about which ETs will do what...
Then let the moths come to your candles and see what happens.

To illustrate this attitude some more...
I drive in the crazy traffic conditions of Costa Rica, and have figured out how to get home safely.
I look out to the front, and focus my eyes on the empty spaces ahead of me.
Sometimes I can see several hundred yards ahead, and it looks to me like the parting waters of the Red Sea.

Meanwhile I had this neurotic friend who was the most fearful backseat driver I ever encountered...
who kept pointing out what was going on inside the other cars.i
Like, 'watch that car on your right, woman driver talking on her cell phone', or 'that guy is hung-over, he might do such and such'. On and on, this person was seeing danger everywhere.
After six months of reading Laura and Ark's The Wave I realized the effect this was having on me...it was turning me into that neurotic backseat driver. Instead of focusing on getting home I was imagining what was happening inside other drivers heads.
So I made my choice and left that path.

The big problem, as I see it, is that we can have this information brought to us, at the same time we live in a matrix and projection of fear. Fear due to our inability to understand the wholeness of it all. We are not empowered and the same time we feel we are discovering nasty things. The empowerment pathway needs to be found at the same time, one would hope. Possibly even found before.

There is, relatively speaking, no danger, but at the same time, the dangers are real. Walking down the street kind of danger. Limited in scope and size. People can step into that area and engage that side of existence if they wish, but until the 'mind projection' becomes clear on many components of it, it can be an unknown and thus difficult to navigate with the sureness required. I knew this going in, as I used logic to probe what I was dealing with. At the same time, it will induce a sort of madness, until the mind reforms around the new information. New information that is fundamental and deep.

If one was to, for example, get a full and clear answer from a certain person in this thread about what they do with their time..I'm sure it would seem like a very difficult to comprehend communication. The connection is individual to the mind and translating it to something that is of general use, as in the general use of language and understanding in this world..that translation is difficult at best.

All one can do is indicate that there is definitely something there, something real to investigate and ponder. Something (developed two way information flow) that will come to the individual in a very unique and individual way. I used the Jiddu krishnamurti quotes to try and say that, as anything too far off the path of normalcy would only skew the situation more than it was.

Had it not been for a WOW moment in my early childhood I might never have taken the first steps to get me onto the wholeness trip. I was in the kitchen with my mother when a voice on the radio said something about the prophet being in the temple, I think it was Jesaiah, and the hem of the robe of God filled the whole temple. On hearing this my eyes must have widened. I remember how I felt at the time, and I never forgot. Perfect childhood programming. My mother had never been a religious person, but right aft giving birth to me she had a dream in which a voice told her to make sure I would have a religious education, and so she always made sure that I got to Sunday school. She eventually became far more religious in the process than I, who went only with lots of protesting. And right after confirmation as a Lutheran at age 14 I dropped out and stopped going, except for Christmas service, without which I would have had no presents.
Anyway, my point is that this small event in our kitchen triggered something in me that remained with me all those later years when I became an atheist, until I was given that download, and shown that wholeness was real. I had wanted to see the hem of God's robe and feel that awe, and that is what happened all those years later. Only knowing about it would have never worked, there had to be that longing, which is the emotion, the fuel, the heart factor. It is far stronger than mere curiosity, which comes from the mind. So if that trigger was the first step in a sequence of logical steps, the final was to repeatedly see my own wishes come true, with the most unlikely synchronicities occurring. Wholeness is seen when the puzzled state leads to puzzle picture building, or an active mind obsession to connect all dots, as often as possible, even while performing mundane tasks. Never letting go, like a terrier with a rat.
The events which then appear on the screen of one's life are such that no outsider could have prepared them, no ET, as only one's own perception could connect those events to one's earlier wishes and prayers.
Hearing about others having similar experiences brings a deep joy. Hopefully the similarities can then trigger for third parties the thought that there must be something real going on here, and start them on their own quest.
This is my wish for them.
Hearing about wholeness is as different from experiencing it as day and night. But the experience can only happen if one desires it, and even then it is like an act of grace.

ulli
14th March 2013, 12:33
@Flash...who wrote:

"Strange that you link this to slavery Ulli, aren't we in a global planetary slavery right now?
If so, how can we expect the Elite or PTB or dracos to give us any freedom?
The door opening through them, i doubt it.
Their hand may have to be forced.
It makes me think of someone once telling me it was karma, and I answered that my karma was to stop her.
The job has to be done by us, wishfull thinking or magical happenings are not enough to have people as deeply ingrained in their ownerships change at what seems the flip of fingers. Lots of work usually is done prior by the slaves."

To be honest, I think this is debatable. While there are definitely signs of slavery
there are also signs of freedom, and of possibility of escape,
as well as of "slave masters" who are generously offering amnesty.
There are many good people in positions of power who have the best of mankind at heart.
Who are loving and sincere.
Not only is the elite made up of 'black hats' and 'white hats',
but within each member there is a mixture of goodwill and need for personal survival.

No one person has all the power, and those who are identified with institutions
usually have less power than someone who has escaped the trappings of
material society, with it's status symbols, and lives a simple life.

For good example of a mixture of oversimplistic attitudes to good and bad in people, especially those with power, take the former Cardinal Bergoglio. As a Jesuit (bad), there is doubt over his role during the dark years in Argentina: maybe he didn’t protect some of his left-leaning order, who disappeared. So there were Jesuits on both sides of that conflict – this means that whatever side you take, some Jesuits are good people.



For some, the new pope is a good man, who looks after the poor and lives a simple personal life, taking the animal-lover Francis of Assissi as his role model. For others, if he is in that top job, then he cannot be a good man. And they will likely discover that Berg in German means mountain and oglio in Italian means eye, put two and two together and decide that he is the eye on the pyramid. They will likely speculate that he was smuggled away to Argentina in a U-boat at the end of the war as a 9-year-old fascist.

Let me put a more positive slant on all this. The major issue this time around was choosing between a pro-Curia cardinal and a reformist. The Curia are called the Romans, so the Petrus Romanus scenario could have been any one of those guys getting in; so possibly choosing a reformist from the other side of the planet was the best answer to derailing the apocalyptic game plan and inflicting an unexpected defeat on the divided Romans.

Given that the plan was/is to destroy the Church, it is worth looking at why we might want to preserve it in some form, and how it might be turned more unambiguously into a force for good. One obvious area of competence is prayer. When they say the conclave is inspired by the Holy Spirit, it means that over a hundred people gathered together with a single common focus, and with countless millions outside also focusing on that purpose, the outcome will be the right one for that particular situation. These are large-scale Intention experiments that didn’t wait for Lynne McTaggart to call them that. Hence choosing a pope is something that just about everyone is involved in to some extent, regardless of their views on popery: might as well do it consciously and positively. Since, regardless of our views on leadership, leaders do provide leadership to many (including many who claim otherwise), better have good leaders providing good leadership; which is done by using the same focus that got them elected to guide them every step of the way. A good leader knows that they are not towing people behind him, they are being pushed.


This is how it works, and has been working up till now. Ratzinger got in on this principle and was thrown out on this principle, when he no longer had this spiritual constituency to carry on. The mechanics of his resignation in relation to this or that scandal or agenda are ultimately irrelevant details. Collectively we went to the brink, had a good look down, and have now stepped back.

Yes, this is how it works. And yes, one can be an outsider and still see the Catholic Church as a source for good, especially if it is making baby steps of reforming itself.
Diverse humanity means diverse approaches. When enlightenment happens one realizes that any path, whether Catholic, or Lutheran, whether Hindu or Buddhist, or even atheist, could have taken one there.
All religions are basically mystical in their essence, and even Atheism, being somewhat utopian, will give the impetus for growth and betterment. And that all paths, if not abandoned, will lead to that point, where the connectedness of all there is becomes as evident as the midday sun, the Great Wholeness, and of which the opposite is fragmentation and separation, decay and death.

RunningDeer
14th March 2013, 13:33
The purpose of zoos is to save species to eventually reintroduce them into their natural habitat when humanity becomes intelligent enough to realize that they are an important part of a biodiversity. Sadly this has not happened, and who knows when we will become enlightened enough to do so.
I adore giraffes, always have. I have no idea why, but I could sit and adore them for hours. Anyway, that means the giraffes were so close I could almost reach out and touch them. That was crazy kind of awesome.


These photos are from the Roger Williams Park Zoo, in Rhode Island. For those that don't know, RI is the smallest state in USA.

Giraffe:

Keep your head up, have faith, and trust your gut regarding the situation you're dealing with at present.
You'll have to reach a bit, but you will achieve your goal.
Keep your eye on the possibilities that are just on the horizon.
You have the gift of foresight, being able to see ahead through dreams, visions, ideas, or signs from the environment.
You enjoy casual socializing with friends more than formal affairs.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Animals/IMG_1822.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Animals/IMG_1820.jpg

Dennis Leahy
14th March 2013, 13:39
I died last night...in my dream.

I don't remember ever dying in a dream before. I have had lucid dreams where I left my body and flew, and have had dreams/nightmares where something was happening that would have ended in death...but would awaken before the death scene. Not last night.

I got into a car along a busy highway, started it up and was trying to defrost the windows when a cop car, traveling at high speed on the wrong side of the road, came racing down the road towards me - and smashed into my car. My car spun around and flew the opposite direction from where I had been pointed, scraped along a concrete wall and hit a large pole. I (my spirit) must have then popped out of my body, as my viewpoint was instantly on the outside of the car, watching my body get ejected from the car. The pole then fell on my body.

One second later, I was with my daughter, and she could see and feel me. I held both of her hands and told her that I had just died in a car crash. She was pretty calm, but listening intently as I told her goodbye and how much I love her. Just then, my wife came in, worried, and said, "Your dad's car is outside and it's smashed!" I then realized my wife could not see me, but only saw our daughter holding her both of her hands out if front of her.

There were some real-world sounds in the house, and I awoke.

I laid in bed for a little while, thinking. I thought about the inadequacy of words in trying to convey a message of emotion. And I though about the fact that I am not ready to leave. I'm not done yet. I haven't accomplished what I came here to do (or at least try to do.)

Dennis

donk
14th March 2013, 13:47
Pauler--in a really awesome video you posted...well, the one you posted was not as good as some of them out there--quality-wise--but the dude with sock puppets talking about non-violent communication, he pointed out he used a giraffe because they have the largest heart of any land animal.

Apparently one visited our bedroom one time, unfortunately I am unable to see such things...

donk
14th March 2013, 13:52
Anybody know about any significant objects on the east coast last night. This picture was posted on one of V's FB friend's page, saying it was a comet he was seeing now. He lives in New Jersey, and the comments indicated he had just taken it (which kinda coincided with one of her dizzy spells)

I am eagerly awaiting her questions to him on how he knows it was a comet and how he managed to capture it in a photo (aren't they pretty fast, and usually even anticipated?), anyway it is a pretty awesome shot:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=20798&d=1363224698

Kraut
14th March 2013, 13:52
Had an argument with my Mother today. It's sad when those closest to you can't appreciate who you really are and are striving to become because their minds are controlled. She thinks I am leaving and betraying (typing that name makes me sick), because I no longer believe in the nonsense that I have been taught. There is no logic, no reasoning, no wisdom that can get through to her, she doesn't even understand why she believes what she does. So I can't help her understand why I no longer do why it's lies and manipulation. These people have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they equate leaving this abusive religion with leaving behind God. She is afraid and hurt, thinking I have thrown all my former years away. Most likely she will die as a blind slave for an Organization that abuses its members spiritually and emotionally. Even if you leave they still get you to a certain extent, by holding your friends and family hostage.

araucaria
14th March 2013, 13:56
I died last night...in my dream.

I don't remember ever dying in a dream before. I have had lucid dreams where I left my body and flew, and have had dreams/nightmares where something was happening that would have ended in death...but would awaken before the death scene. Not last night.

I got into a car along a busy highway, started it up and was trying to defrost the windows when a cop car, traveling at high speed on the wrong side of the road, came racing down the road towards me - and smashed into my car. My car spun around and flew the opposite direction from where I had been pointed, scraped along a concrete wall and hit a large pole. I (my spirit) must have then popped out of my body, as my viewpoint was instantly on the outside of the car, watching my body get ejected from the car. The pole then fell on my body.

One second later, I was with my daughter, and she could see and feel me. I held both of her hands and told her that I had just died in a car crash. She was pretty calm, but listening intently as I told her goodbye and how much I love her. Just then, my wife came in, worried, and said, "Your dad's car is outside and it's smashed!" I then realized my wife could not see me, but only saw our daughter holding her both of her hands out if front of her.

There were some real-world sounds in the house, and I awoke.

I laid in bed for a little while, thinking. I thought about the inadequacy of words in trying to convey a message of emotion. And I though about the fact that I am not ready to leave. I'm not done yet. I haven't accomplished what I came here to do (or at least try to do.)

Dennis

Interesting dream Dennis. One is supposed to wake up immediately on dying in a dream. It used to happen to me quite a lot until I started waking up in advance when I saw it coming. To have dreamed through the whole thing is pretty impressive.

I think your interpretation is probably right, that your time is not up - just watch out for speeding cops going the wrong way please :)

1inMany
14th March 2013, 13:59
Good Morning,

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Stopped by the Village to share my intent for the day, then off to the country......

Much Love,

ulli
14th March 2013, 14:06
I died last night...in my dream.

I don't remember ever dying in a dream before. I have had lucid dreams where I left my body and flew, and have had dreams/nightmares where something was happening that would have ended in death...but would awaken before the death scene. Not last night.

I got into a car along a busy highway, started it up and was trying to defrost the windows when a cop car, traveling at high speed on the wrong side of the road, came racing down the road towards me - and smashed into my car. My car spun around and flew the opposite direction from where I had been pointed, scraped along a concrete wall and hit a large pole. I (my spirit) must have then popped out of my body, as my viewpoint was instantly on the outside of the car, watching my body get ejected from the car. The pole then fell on my body.

One second later, I was with my daughter, and she could see and feel me. I held both of her hands and told her that I had just died in a car crash. She was pretty calm, but listening intently as I told her goodbye and how much I love her. Just then, my wife came in, worried, and said, "Your dad's car is outside and it's smashed!" I then realized my wife could not see me, but only saw our daughter holding her both of her hands out if front of her.

There were some real-world sounds in the house, and I awoke.

I laid in bed for a little while, thinking. I thought about the inadequacy of words in trying to convey a message of emotion. And I though about the fact that I am not ready to leave. I'm not done yet. I haven't accomplished what I came here to do (or at least try to do.)

Dennis

Death dreams can be so scary, Dennis. But they have important messages, too.

So discovered that people who dream of the end of the world, or the end of the species...
these people often became very sick a short while later, and sometimes even die,
if they buy into the literal meaning of their dream.
Meanwhile people (and this includes myself) who had personal death dreams in which only they died,
were close to the biggest Aha moment of their lives. They were only witnessing the death of their fragmented ego.

Over the years I realized that all those dreams preceded rebirth moments in my life,
and were in part the result of an earlier consciousness in myself that was still in denial of death.

So the shedding of the body type of death is only one of many deaths,
and the higher one's vibrational frequencies, the more death and rebirths one experiences,
and can make fresh starts in life, which are incredibly invigorating.

So as I got older I gradually began to face my own mortality more and more,
and also discovered that somehow I will be kept alive until every last task
my soul came here to do has been performed,
including tying up the loose ends and not leaving a big mess behind.

My feeling is that the perception you have of the "bad" government, the elite which is out of control,
and which will potentially be the cause of your own death,
is represented by that cop car coming down the wrong side of the road...
all that is part of your own self.
Once you transcend this conflict you will have new powers,
where you can start acting far more effectively than you can now.

RunningDeer
14th March 2013, 14:08
Dude couldn't stay long in my (awake) friend either.

It's a trip cuz they can pretend to be the person they jack
Personal experience says that a full reading or blending with the consciousnesses ..difficult at best.

These are my musings on this:
Higher consciousness can never be understood by lower-level beings, it must be earned, through desire at first, through longing, striving, and finally the courage to take a leap of faith.
Just like calculus cannot be understood by a child at kindergarten level that wants to be like the older kids, but has to go through the growth stages.
And then higher consciousness descends and lends a helping hand, and gives glimpses of possibilities, by producing guides, or teachers.
They offer the manual, how to proceed to get there.
And finally when all the tests have been passed, and the lessons learned, a secret doorway opens and one enters the next level.
One can still visit the earlier levels but becomes invisible to those who dwell there. Unless one chooses to give a glimpse of oneself.

For example, the longing for freedom amongst slaves alone would never have brought that freedom had it not been granted by those in power positions to change the laws, and remove the restrictions.


One can still visit the earlier levels but becomes invisible to those who dwell there. Unless one chooses to give a glimpse of oneself.

Just as I read this sentence, a tall, thin Light-Being appeared in my right peripheral vision. I am washed with peace and a secondary nugget of inner knowing that everything’s okay. In some way, there’s a familiarity with her. An old acquaintance, who is confirming she’ll be around for awhile.

She wears a long, hooded cloak, which now explains the new avatar that I had resistance to up-loading. Cool. I really like her.

We thank you, Ulli...

UPDATE: Part of me feels like she's a part of me. Which from the larger perspective, she is. But aside from that... Future me? I don't want to over think. Just what's popping into our conversation.

ulli
14th March 2013, 14:10
Had an argument with my Mother today. It's sad when those closest to you can't appreciate who you really are and are striving to become because their minds are controlled. She thinks I am leaving and betraying (typing that name makes me sick), because I no longer believe in the nonsense that I have been taught. There is no logic, no reasoning, no wisdom that can get through to her, she doesn't even understand why she believes what she does. So I can't help her understand why I no longer do why it's lies and manipulation. These people have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they equate leaving this abusive religion with leaving behind God. She is afraid and hurt, thinking I have thrown all my former years away. Most likely she will die as a blind slave for an Organization that abuses its members spiritually and emotionally. Even if you leave they still get you to a certain extent, by holding your friends and family hostage.

She will always be your mum, and will always love you.
Just tell her not to worry, that her God and her prayers will protect you,
but that your path is a higher one than hers.
Just give her a hug, she'll come around to your way of seeing things;
mums usually do...they are just a bit slow.

RunningDeer
14th March 2013, 14:24
All I know is there are alot of 'Jose's' in my life lately in front of me...
So I'm just gonna 'hose' it all down and clean it all up with a little help from my higher friends!!!


Eagle Man, more coming your way to join in with the rest.
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donk
14th March 2013, 14:25
I am quickly pariahed (if I can make that a verb) due

Love this...as I really like to verb nouns (especially "verb")...there's a paradox in there somewhere.

Can you describe the dark streaks you mentioned (preceding chemtrails...I mean "cloud seeding")...I missed those. All I know is that I been noticing two layers of clouds for a while now, the white fluffy ones under the dark grey purplish sheets, that I can see the ends of--that's what's different. Where I'm from, you could never see the edge of an "overcast" if you catch my meaning, now the sky is never completely covered, it is like the big sky out west somehow. (this is where I'd post "Divided Sky", if Phish had not already worn out their village welcome)

On LKJ, I was into her for awhile, and kind of stayed away awhile ago, not ever thinking much of it. Funny she came up, as the first time in awhile I heard mention of her was by Weidner. Not to be all gossipy, but he is not a big fan, and has an interesting story on his site, which I will not link--if you wanna see it, google it up. He doesn't seem to me to be the type to crap on someone for no reason, as he kinda firmly establishes "sides" (never sits well with me), I have to take his (and therefore always take her with a grain of salt now). I thought it out of the ordinary for him to do that (single someone out and straight call them out), and the way he does in a way that would be libelous if untrue, so take it or leave it or whatever...

Kraut
14th March 2013, 14:37
She will always be your mum, and will always love you.
Just tell her not to worry, that her God and her prayers will protect you,
but that your path is a higher one than hers.
Just give her a hug, she'll come around to your way of seeing things;
mums usually do...they are just a bit slow.

That's true and she does love me, but I can't stand seeing her lifeless eyes, knowing that she is hurting inside because of her conditioning. My life has gotten much better, but I can't share that with her. She can't understand when I tell her not to worry, there's only one path in her mind, just as she's been taught all her life, it's black and white, life or death. In her view I have abandoned the path of light and when Armageddon will come soon, I'll have to die. She believes that Demons have taken over my mind. Telling her that her God and her prayers will protect me won't work either, because I have abandoned her God. JWs have an extreme view of God and loyalty to the religion is everything, even questioning and being critical is bad. :lol: It's sad and funny at the same time.

About two months ago I had an interesting dream, it was around my lowest point in the past months. To most here a dream as mine must be rather insignificant, but that was a first to me. So far I had thought that dreams are just mental projections that are random, that they have no meaning. In my dream I spoke to some woman, that I did not know. I told her that I felt cut off from God and a bit lost, that it was painful for me and how I was searching. When I told her that she started singing, just a melody, not a song with lyrics. At that point (it's not so easy to describe) I felt as if God were with me and I with him. It was such a powerful and tremendous joy that I had to laugh, I wouldn't be surprised if I was actually laughing in my sleep. I have never felt such joy, it was overpowering. Unfortunately that's when I woke up. Anyway, it was really fascinating to me and I still think about it regularly. But even a dream as that is something I don't mention to my Mom because she'll look at me and think "oh boy, my Son is demonized...". You don't have to go to Arab countries to find fundamentalists. Hopefully any religion like that will not be tolerated by people anymore soon. There are many Witnesses who are starting to wake up.

donk
14th March 2013, 14:41
but that your path is a higher one than hers.



Is that really a good thing to be telling ANYONE?

Especially someone that fears you may be falling into satanic possession/Luciferianism (ie - putting HUMAN above GOD)?

Carmody
14th March 2013, 14:45
She will always be your mum, and will always love you.
Just tell her not to worry, that her God and her prayers will protect you,
but that your path is a higher one than hers.
Just give her a hug, she'll come around to your way of seeing things;
mums usually do...they are just a bit slow.

That's true and she does love me, but I can't stand seeing her lifeless eyes, knowing that she is hurting inside because of her conditioning. My life has gotten much better, but I can't share that with her. She can't understand when I tell her not to worry, there's only one path in her mind, just as she's been taught all her life, it's black and white, life or death. In her view I have abandoned the path of light and when Armageddon will come soon, I'll have to die. She believes that Demons have taken over my mind. Telling her that her God and her prayers will protect me won't work either, because I have abandoned her God. JWs have an extreme view of God and loyalty to the religion is everything, even questioning and being critical is bad. :lol: It's sad and funny at the same time.

About two months ago I had an interesting dream, it was around my lowest point in the past months. To most here a dream as mine must be rather insignificant, but that was a first to me. So far I had thought that dreams are just mental projections that are random, that they have no meaning. In my dream I spoke to some woman, that I did not know. I told her that I felt cut off from God and a bit lost, that it was painful for me and how I was searching. When I told her that she started singing, just a melody, not a song with lyrics. At that point (it's not so easy to describe) I felt as if God were with me and I with him. It was such a powerful and tremendous joy that I had to laugh, I wouldn't be surprised if I was actually laughing in my sleep. I have never felt such joy, it was overpowering. Unfortunately that's when I woke up. Anyway, it was really fascinating to me and I still think about it regularly. But even a dream as that is something I don't mention to my Mom because she'll look at me and think "oh boy, my Son is demonized...". You don't have to go to Arab countries to find fundamentalists. Hopefully any religion like that will not be tolerated by people anymore soon. There are many Witnesses who are starting to wake up.

The trick is to understand that your mind's designs and wiring is derived from hers. (about half, at the least -a mix up, a mish-mash) Yours is an evolution and change..additions and subtractions in the basic wiring. If you understand a given thing, then there is chance that she will as well. Eventually. That it may be a good idea to try, at some time, to give her a chance to understand - when you and her are a bit more emotionally separated from the moment that is happening now.

donk
14th March 2013, 14:45
I mean, I feel like I know what you meant, though I might phrase (since we're talking about paths and all):

I am choosing not to take a path driven by fear

Or something to that effect?

Higher or better or more of anything...that subjective relative crap. Anything that can be seen as "judging" her (non) choices...while it may be true (to you), it's kinda hard for people to hear...especially when they are pretty much programmed not to think...

ulli
14th March 2013, 14:56
but that your path is a higher one than hers.



Is that really a good thing to be telling ANYONE?

Especially someone that fears you may be falling into satanic possession/Luciferianism (ie - putting HUMAN above GOD)?

Well, I see it this way...J
Jehovah's Witnesses are the most rigid people in any Christian sect,
so they can do with a sledge hammer approach.
Challenge them all the way, I say...don't give them any slack, ever.

P.S. Of course it wouldn't serve to say this with anger- it has to be heartfelt and loving. Showing one's conviction.

Kraut
14th March 2013, 14:59
The trick is to understand that your mind's designs and wiring is derived from hers. (about half, at the least -a mix up, a mish-mash) Yours is an evolution and change..additions and subtractions in the basic wiring. If you understand a given thing, then there is chance that she will as well. Eventually. That it may be a good idea to try, at some time, to give her a chance to understand - when you and her are a bit more emotionally separated from the moment that is happening now.
No idea why I brought it up today. Usually we don't talk about these things anymore, I tend to be an upfront person but my Mother likes keeping things inside, so I wanted to know if she's been able to accept it a bit better, we hadn't seen each other in months. Honestly, I think she won't understand. Her own Mother spent half of her life waiting for "the new system" and Paradise, she died four years ago, always living for her religion, seldom for herself, not seeing anything of what she had longed for. We are all free to believe what we want and worship in any way we want, I let my Mother do just that. But sometimes your folks let you know without words how they feel about you claiming your freedom.


I mean, I feel like I know what you meant, though I might phrase (since we're talking about paths and all):

I am choosing not to take a path driven by fear

Or something to that effect?

Higher or better or more of anything...that subjective relative crap. Anything that can be seen as "judging" her (non) choices...while it may be true (to you), it's kinda hard for people to hear...especially when they are pretty much programmed not to think...
What I told her is that I have no more fear, a better relationship with God, more peace etc. Perhaps she'll understand that some day, she doesn't see the mechanisms of fear in her beliefs. From personal experience I can say that you need to take a step back to really see how much fear is used to keep you in check, it blew me away when I noticed that. There's no turning back for me. Regardless of what others think.

Kraut
14th March 2013, 15:07
Well, I see it this way...J
Jehovah's Witnesses are the most rigid people in any Christian sect,
so they can do with a sledge hammer approach.
Challenge them all the way, I say...don't give them any slack, ever.

P.S. Of course it wouldn't serve to say this with anger- it has to be heartfelt and loving. Showing one's conviction.

Tried the sledge hammer approach already. Didn't work. But you are right about not taking any slack. I think the best approach is to just let it be. I will continue to grow spiritually and that will show outwardly. Fortunately I have plenty of the stubbornness from my Father's side.

Carmody
14th March 2013, 15:18
Well, I see it this way...J
Jehovah's Witnesses are the most rigid people in any Christian sect,
so they can do with a sledge hammer approach.
Challenge them all the way, I say...don't give them any slack, ever.

P.S. Of course it wouldn't serve to say this with anger- it has to be heartfelt and loving. Showing one's conviction.

Tried the sledge hammer approach already. Didn't work. But you are right about not taking any slack. I think the best approach is to just let it be. I will continue to grow spiritually and that will show outwardly. Fortunately I have plenty of the stubbornness from my Father's side.

one way, may be..is to..over time...let her understand that it is not a break with her, but internal evolution and change. A thing that has grown over time. Not a rejection, but an evolution, over time..in you. for she may be in the moment and space of always perceiving it as rejection. This, if she has suffered similar programming in her life, as that of rejection and breaks. what is her moment of perception? What does she understand the situation as, on the deepest formation levels? - That indeed may be a part of the core issue. Separating yourself from the situation to be able to see that more clearly, will take time, as it will similarly, for her.

RunningDeer
14th March 2013, 15:25
Well, I see it this way...J
Jehovah's Witnesses are the most rigid people in any Christian sect,
so they can do with a sledge hammer approach.
Challenge them all the way, I say...don't give them any slack, ever.

P.S. Of course it wouldn't serve to say this with anger- it has to be heartfelt and loving. Showing one's conviction.

Tried the sledge hammer approach already. Didn't work. But you are right about not taking any slack. I think the best approach is to just let it be. I will continue to grow spiritually and that will show outwardly. Fortunately I have plenty of the stubbornness from my Father's side.


Fortunately I have plenty of the stubbornness from my Father's side.

Oops, if/when I hear something like that come out of my head, I remind myself that I am the sole owner for my beliefs and actions. Then I am filled with gratitude, and thank myself for wearing my custom-designed, self-empowered sneakers.

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ulli
14th March 2013, 15:29
In my last year in Barbados, before I knew that I was going to move to Costa Rica one day,
I still had my boutique there, and the girl working for me was a Jehovah's witness.

She was still in training, and used me as an exercise machine. Two nuts trying to crack each other.
So she insisted to bring her bible and a pile of books to work, and during the off season there were few customers...
so we would have these debates.
It ended with me discovering that they don't believe in getting into heaven, not until the final judgement,
and then only a small number....
all based on the position of one comma,
which was in a different place from the bibles I knew. It was about the promise that Jesus made to the thief on the cross next to him...
where he told him that today he would enter paradise. meanwhile she argued, backed up by her bible, that Jesus meant he was saying it TODAY, but it would not actually happen until two thousand years down the road when the dead would come out of their tombs.

That's when I gave up all discussions.....realized there was no way to win the argument. And once I showed an unwillingness to discuss her bible with her she also dropped her work standards until I decided that I would just have to let her go.
So I went to work the next day, nervous about the idea of giving her notice, because I hated firing people,
and as I walked in the door and before I could tell her anything, she announced that she was pregnant.
And this meant I couldn't fire her, under Barbados law.
And I ended up having her right until the end, and even pay for her three months maternity leave as well.
By then it had become clear to me that we were going to move to Costa Rica,
and I handed the business over to new management. So there was my personal saga...
and how spirit used a JW to drive me to a new country.

RunningDeer
14th March 2013, 17:07
W7O887P4cWc

Just in from Tom

Thank you, Astrid. I liked Tom's mantra, too:

As I live in peace and harmony
I align with true morality
And no longer need to figure it out
I choose and act without a doubt

ulli
14th March 2013, 18:04
Poor Tom, not only did he forget to clean the lens on his camera but he got several things wrong today,
and least of all the year which he called 2012.
I do understand though, as 2012 became a powerful meme that could be stuck in many heads.
But Mercury going retrograde in Pisces conjunct Neptune blurred reality to the point that Tom called Neptune the messenger of the Gods when clearly he meant Mercury.
Looks to me like he is on the beach of Manzanillo which has that effect on visitors as well.
Unreal place. This is how it looks on a clear day. Anyone who visits me in future will be taken there.

http://www.elcolibrilodge.com/html/downloads/1024x768/costarica_playa-grande.jpg

Dennis Leahy
14th March 2013, 18:19
I died last night...in my dream.

I don't remember ever dying in a dream before. I have had lucid dreams where I left my body and flew, and have had dreams/nightmares where something was happening that would have ended in death...but would awaken before the death scene. Not last night.

I got into a car along a busy highway, started it up and was trying to defrost the windows when a cop car, traveling at high speed on the wrong side of the road, came racing down the road towards me - and smashed into my car. My car spun around and flew the opposite direction from where I had been pointed, scraped along a concrete wall and hit a large pole. I (my spirit) must have then popped out of my body, as my viewpoint was instantly on the outside of the car, watching my body get ejected from the car. The pole then fell on my body.

One second later, I was with my daughter, and she could see and feel me. I held both of her hands and told her that I had just died in a car crash. She was pretty calm, but listening intently as I told her goodbye and how much I love her. Just then, my wife came in, worried, and said, "Your dad's car is outside and it's smashed!" I then realized my wife could not see me, but only saw our daughter holding her both of her hands out if front of her.

There were some real-world sounds in the house, and I awoke.

I laid in bed for a little while, thinking. I thought about the inadequacy of words in trying to convey a message of emotion. And I though about the fact that I am not ready to leave. I'm not done yet. I haven't accomplished what I came here to do (or at least try to do.)

Dennis

Death dreams can be so scary, Dennis. But they have important messages, too.

So discovered that people who dream of the end of the world, or the end of the species...
these people often became very sick a short while later, and sometimes even die,
if they buy into the literal meaning of their dream.
Meanwhile people (and this includes myself) who had personal death dreams in which only they died,
were close to the biggest Aha moment of their lives. They were only witnessing the death of their fragmented ego.

Over the years I realized that all those dreams preceded rebirth moments in my life,
and were in part the result of an earlier consciousness in myself that was still in denial of death.

So the shedding of the body type of death is only one of many deaths,
and the higher one's vibrational frequencies, the more death and rebirths one experiences,
and can make fresh starts in life, which are incredibly invigorating.

So as I got older I gradually began to face my own mortality more and more,
and also discovered that somehow I will be kept alive until every last task
my soul came here to do has been performed,
including tying up the loose ends and not leaving a big mess behind.

My feeling is that the perception you have of the "bad" government, the elite which is out of control,
and which will potentially be the cause of your own death,
is represented by that cop car coming down the wrong side of the road...
all that is part of your own self.
Once you transcend this conflict you will have new powers,
where you can start acting far more effectively than you can now.Very interesting, very perceptive interpretation.

Specifically interesting, "all that is part of your own self" which is something that presents an enigma: how to find the balance between

a.) recognizing that even the most negative aspects of humanity, the most "evil" people, are still part of humanity and thus there truly is an "us" but not a "them"

and

b.) recognizing that shifting the onus onto all of mankind for the deliberate, planned, manipulation and exploitation perpetrated by a few, is shifting blame onto the victims.

(Riffing on this...)
I fight very hard against the notion that "we" must change ourselves first, for any meaningful overall change to occur. I see almost all of humanity herded into a press and being squeezed by a few. Yes, we together in the press can enlighten ourselves, transcend the pain, be more cooperative with and respectful to our fellow victims in the press, maybe even recognize that we allowed ourselves to be manipulated - but I want the malevolent few outside the press to reverse the screw, realizing that indeed the masses are unenlightened but we are also victims of outside forces that we cannot solve introspectively.

I don't feel (consciously) conflicted with that perspective, but I do realize that the meme that our present condition is all our own damn fault needs to be deconstructed carefully. Oddly, it is easy for many 'lower functioning' individuals to assert that every negative thing in life is someone elses fault, and it is easy for many 'higher functioning' people to accept responsibility regardless who created the problem. It may be this blanket blaming that causes the (few, but genuine and important) victim complaints to be drowned out in a sea of "woe is me." On the other hand, in accepting responsibility for what we did not do and do not control, we get further away from understanding the source of the problem and further away from solving the problem.

...but that's not the end of me analyzing the dream and analyzing your interpretation of the dream, Ulli. Thanks again for your input.

Dennis

ulli
14th March 2013, 18:32
Hi Dennis. Yes, you summed up my own dilemma, and all I can say is that the final chapter on it
is still somewhere on a shelf. Humanity cannot get there, (wherever it is),
just by each and every individual changing themselves.
There must also be system change, and not only for the US but all 200 nations....
to bring about an environment where the rest of the great unwashed, as the elite call them, are given a fair chance as well.
Equal opportunity for all has to be a part of the package.

But some of the privileged few, who don't have to worry about starvation,
once a sufficiently large group can attain enlightenment
they will also tip the balance of power, something which might have already begun to happen.
And not just in the last few years, but earlier, when monarchies became republics.
if those generations could do it so can ours.
And our kids, of course; I have complete faith in them.

Flash
14th March 2013, 18:41
She will always be your mum, and will always love you.
Just tell her not to worry, that her God and her prayers will protect you,
but that your path is a higher one than hers.
Just give her a hug, she'll come around to your way of seeing things;
mums usually do...they are just a bit slow.

That's true and she does love me, but I can't stand seeing her lifeless eyes, knowing that she is hurting inside because of her conditioning. My life has gotten much better, but I can't share that with her. She can't understand when I tell her not to worry, there's only one path in her mind, just as she's been taught all her life, it's black and white, life or death. In her view I have abandoned the path of light and when Armageddon will come soon, I'll have to die. She believes that Demons have taken over my mind. Telling her that her God and her prayers will protect me won't work either, because I have abandoned her God. JWs have an extreme view of God and loyalty to the religion is everything, even questioning and being critical is bad. :lol: It's sad and funny at the same time.

About two months ago I had an interesting dream, it was around my lowest point in the past months. To most here a dream as mine must be rather insignificant, but that was a first to me. So far I had thought that dreams are just mental projections that are random, that they have no meaning. In my dream I spoke to some woman, that I did not know. I told her that I felt cut off from God and a bit lost, that it was painful for me and how I was searching. When I told her that she started singing, just a melody, not a song with lyrics. At that point (it's not so easy to describe) I felt as if God were with me and I with him. It was such a powerful and tremendous joy that I had to laugh, I wouldn't be surprised if I was actually laughing in my sleep. I have never felt such joy, it was overpowering. Unfortunately that's when I woke up. Anyway, it was really fascinating to me and I still think about it regularly. But even a dream as that is something I don't mention to my Mom because she'll look at me and think "oh boy, my Son is demonized...". You don't have to go to Arab countries to find fundamentalists. Hopefully any religion like that will not be tolerated by people anymore soon. There are many Witnesses who are starting to wake up.

The trick is to understand that your mind's designs and wiring is derived from hers. (about half, at the least -a mix up, a mish-mash) Yours is an evolution and change..additions and subtractions in the basic wiring. If you understand a given thing, then there is chance that she will as well. Eventually. That it may be a good idea to try, at some time, to give her a chance to understand - when you and her are a bit more emotionally separated from the moment that is happening now.

And I would add with mothers, always remain on the love side, kind of "i know you love me and want my well being - I love you too and want the same for you, can we just share our love for the moment" this is a no fail argument with a mom. But do not give up on yourself, follow as well Ulli and Carmody's advice.

donk
14th March 2013, 18:56
Well said Dennis and ulli, it is the real issue, what every issue boils down to:


On the other hand, in accepting responsibility for what we did not do and do not control, we get further away from understanding the source of the problem and further away from solving the problem.


There is a THEY, and they adapt quickly...co-opting (hijacking) the idea of idea of "republic" (to use ulli's example)...we can throw in the ideas of freedom, liberty....how about HOPE & CHANGE, anyone??

Orwell was prophetic. I just hope he got the endings wrong (at least of the two I read: 1984 and Animal Farm).

I think that the change or adaption needed of us is so radical we cannot imagine it, until it is realized. And as a lot of people mention and Dennis touches on, it would involve turning "them" into "us" (assimilation, borg-style?). But really it is about achieving a balance...who's which is which, and who is who:

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1inMany
14th March 2013, 19:17
Oh, Kraut, I wish I had the answer for you. As it is, your expressions have led me down a hole in myself that used to be extremely painful and I am finding out now that it was a crucial turning point in my soul development.

I was born into a JW family, born into the Truth. My father was the director of music for the district back when orchestras played at assemblies. I grew up napping on concrete floors being lulled by beautiful interpretations of Myriads and Myriads of Brothers before the assemblies started. I grew up being paraded around and showered with positive reinforcement because I was a good girl, answering questions during the Watchtower Studies as soon as I could speak. I was on stage from the time I could walk, a good example. I learned to read using the Watchtower and Awake, and of course the Bible. We went to meetings on Thursday nights and Sundays, and usually held the Tuesday night Book Study in our living room. Saturday mornings our house was full of Brothers and Sisters, and families, getting ready to go in Service. On Monday nights and Wednesday nights, our family sat in a circle and every member took a turn reading something aloud, usually studying for Sunday, but very often we had some part or other at the meeting that we needed to prepare for. I was a proficient public speaker at about 6. I placed many, many magazines before then, countless number probably, just on the cuteness factor alone.

When my parents divorced, there was the necessary Disfellowshipping of one party or the other, my Mom took that one. Upon remarrying, she relocated all of us across the country, which was so far away that we actually did not get to see our Dad even annually. What this did, of course, was send me into a tailspin of nightmares (because of course my Mom was demonized at this point) and secret (forbidden) midnight calls to my Dad so that he could pray with me. Many, many nights I awoke from a nightmare of demons, and after I got the courage to get out of bed (which it felt like took an hour), would get in bed with my Mom shaking with fear. I would make her say "Jehovah" out loud, the only way to make the demons go away. This, I'm certain, infuriated her, having been disfellowshipped and trying to give me a sense of normalcy.

When I moved in with my Dad at 15, I did so because I missed him very much and it seemed the only way to be able to touch him. Upon making this decision, my mother put everything I left behind at home into a pile and lit it. Literally. Every item of clothing. Every picture. Every award since grade school. I no longer existed.

My father then took me out of high school to watch my younger brother, an infant. He wanted, first and foremost, to keep me from becoming worldly. My Dad and step mother also could not afford day care. And, to them, it seemed the perfect opportunity for me to Pioneer. So, here I was a 16-17 year old girl, Pioneering with my brother on my hip. My Dad made frequent trips to Bethel, and helped to compose many songs in the new song book. He also helped record all the "new" music, now heard in Kingdom Halls all over the world. I used to play the piano at assemblies, Circuit and District, Dad standing on the stage directing the music. 2,000 or more people's voices behind me.

I understand the emotional and spiritual abuse that takes place in fundamentalist religions. Even opening up this much, I still could not explain how much a part of my life "the Truth" was.

Upon moving out at 19, maybe 20 years old, I was disfellowshipped as well. (Already shared that elsewhere, not going through that whole story again.) The Truth was such a part of me, and I a part of it, that I cannot describe the sensations on the morning I woke up knowing the Elders had met the night before to decide my "fate." I sat and cried for hours, literally, because the birds were still chirping, the train still blew at 6am outside my window, the traffic noise still existed, the alarm still went off, and I looked in the mirror and still saw myself. I am not joking, here, in the least. I am not sure what I expected to happen, but that moment of realization was the worst and best moment I have ever experienced.

And in one night, I went from having a million brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles to not one. None. And you know what? Had that one moment not occurred, I would not be here. And now.

I am so, so sorry, Kraut, right along with you, that religions are more than "just" religions. After having the experiences I have had, I would venture a guess that there is not one single thing you will be able to say to your mother that would even make her comfortable being around you. I tried calling my Dad, for years actually, and only once or twice did I ever get him to come to the phone. I visited him a couple of months before he died, in the hospital actually. He could not speak, so they had made him a poster of common words and letters, and he had a pointer. After 6 or 7 years, finally seeing him in person, do you know what he said? He said, "are you going to meetings?"

When this is ingrained so deeply, and especially from birth, it takes a shock to get away from it. But it isn't the kind of shock someone else can give you. I was disfellowshipped for something I actually didn't do, but for one reason or another didn't feel like battling the whole thing. So I let it happen. But this haunted me for 20 years. Twenty years of my life, every waking moment and every sleeping moment. The guilt. The fear. At some point, in therapy even, I decided that there would be no way to get any peace unless I just went back. (This is quite an undertaking, following this rule and that, doing first this step and then that, until the Elders decide to re-instate you.) I went into a Kingdom Hall, asked to see some Elders. Told them I was considering coming back to the fold. But before I did, I wanted to study with them first, because I had been born into all these beliefs, and I wanted to ask questions as an adult. They refused. That's not the way it was done. First you jump through the hoops, then you can ask questions. The only way past after that, was to accept that I would die at Armageddon. So I did.

And you know what happened? One day, out of nowhere, a thought popped into my head. It was something like, hey wait a minute. Jehovah knows my heart, and is a just God. I will wait to talk to Him and see what He says.

After all this, the only advice I would give you is to not share too much. The risk of alienation is HUGE. Let your light shine, let your attitude show her that Jehovah didn't forsake you, turning His back on you until you get your **** together. Build on what is still in common, we are all actually moving toward the new system of things.

But even saying that, only you will know if there is a way to reach her. Look at me, here. Some point after 20 years away from it, I let every single bit go. I learned about the Law of One, something that resonates with me like nothing else I have ever found. I know to the core of my being that Jehovah is not "God," just wanted to clarify for anyone reading that I'm way past all this now. This was a painful share because I accessed some memories in such a way as to put myself back there for a moment.

Why did I do this? ****. I have no clue.

I got home from the city, and all I could think about was rest. I'm so worn out. But, being how I am, I thought I would check in and catch up in the village...and Kraut, I simply could not dismiss your posts.

There is always, always hope. Always. Follow your intuition. And know, please, that you are not alone. None of us is, your mom isn't either. And when the time is right, and I hope this is in your lifetime, she will awaken to All that Is. The work you are doing now will mean that you will be such a source of strength and love for her when her awakening begins. You know as well as I do, it won't be easy. She will be absolutely blessed to have your support.

Much Love,