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[Daughter of Time]

I have been a member of Avalon for two weeks now, and it's official: I AM ADDICTED!

Best wishes to all of you.

[Cottage Rose]

Greetings Ulli: Would you please explain the significance of Chiron in a Natal Chart?
It is my understanding some astrologers chart it and some do not.

[Guest]

Hey Markoid,

Happy to see you back & feeling better -sent good things your way for the past couple of days. And to a speedy recovery and good dreams....

Nora

we are all related

[Guest]

Hi Ulli,

Hope you stay dry and safe.

We have another storm front coming in here in SoCal seems we get dried off just in time for another torrential down pour.

Nora

we are all related

[Carmody]

Greetings Ulli: Would you please explain the significance of Chiron in a Natal Chart?
It is my understanding some astrologers chart it and some do not.

Like the satyrs, centaurs were notorious for being wild and lusty, overly indulgent drinkers and carousers, given to violence when intoxicated, and generally uncultured delinquents. Chiron, by contrast, was intelligent, civilized and kind, but he was not related directly to the other centaurs.[2] He was known for his knowledge and skill with medicine. According to an archaic myth[3] he was sired by Cronus when he had taken the form of a horse[4] and impregnated the nymph Philyra,[5] Chiron's lineage was different from other centaurs, who were born of sun and raincloud, rendered by Greeks of the Classic period as from the union of the king Ixion, consigned to a fiery wheel, and Nephele ("cloud"), which in the Olympian telling Zeus invented to look like Hera. Myths in the Olympian tradition attributed Chiron's uniquely peaceful character and intelligence to teaching by Apollo and Artemis in his younger days.
Amphora suggested to be Achilles riding Chiron. British Museum ref 1956,1220.1 .

Chiron's haunts were on Mount Pelion; there he married the nymph Chariclo who bore him three daughters, Hippe (with a daughter Melanippe, the "Black Mare" or Euippe, "truly a mare"), Endeis, and Ocyrhoe, and one son Carystus.

A great healer, astrologer, and respected oracle, Chiron was said to be the first among centaurs and highly revered as a teacher and tutor. Among his pupils were many culture heroes: Asclepius, Aristaeus, Ajax, Aeneas, Actaeon, Caeneus, Theseus, Achilles, Jason, Peleus, Telamon, Perseus, sometimes Heracles, Oileus, Phoenix, and in one Byzantine tradition, even Dionysus: according to Ptolemaeus Chennus of Alexandria, "Dionysius was loved by Chiron, from whom he learned chants and dances, the bacchic rites and initiations."[6]

His nobility is further reflected in the story of his death, as Prometheus sacrificed his life, allowing mankind to obtain the use of fire. Being the son of Cronus, a Titan, he was immortal and so could not die. So it was left to Heracles to arrange a bargain with Zeus to exchange Chiron's immortality for the life of Prometheus, who had been chained to a rock and left to die for his transgressions.[7] Chiron had been poisoned with an arrow belonging to Heracles that had been treated with the blood of the Hydra, or, in other versions, poison that Chiron had given to the hero when he had been under the honorable centaur’s tutelage. According to a Scholium on Theocritus,[8] this had taken place during the visit of Heracles to the cave of Pholus on Mount Pelion in Thessaly when he visited his friend during his fourth labour in defeating the Erymanthian Boar. While they were at supper, Heracles asked for some wine to accompany his meal. Pholus, who ate his food raw, was taken aback. He had been given a vessel of sacred wine by Dionysus sometime earlier, to be kept in trust for the rest of the centaurs until the right time for its opening. At Heracles' prompting, Pholus was forced to produce the vessel of sacred wine. The hero, gasping for wine, grabbed it from him and forced it open. Thereupon the vapours of the sacred wine wafted out of the cave and intoxicated the wild centaurs, led by Nessus, who had gathered outside. They attacked the cave with stones and fir trees. Heracles was forced to shoot many arrows (poisoned with the blood of the Hydra) to drive them back. During this assault, Chiron was hit in the thigh by one of the poisoned arrows. After the centaurs had fled, Pholus emerged from the cave to observe the destruction. Being of a philosophical frame of mind, he pulled one of the arrows from the body of a dead centaur and wondered how such a little thing as an arrow could have caused so much death and destruction. In that instant, he let slip the arrow from his hand and it dropped and hit him in the hoof, killing him instantly. This, however, is open to controversy, because Pholus shared the "civilized centaur" form with Chiron in some art images, and thus would have been immortal.

Ironically, Chiron, the master of the healing arts, could not heal himself, so he willingly gave up his immortality. He was honoured with a place in the sky, for the Greeks as the constellation Centaurus.

Chiron saved the life of Peleus when Acastus tried to kill him by taking his sword and leaving him out in the woods to be slaughtered by the centaurs. Chiron retrieved the sword for Peleus. Some sources speculate that Chiron was originally a Thessalian god, later subsumed into the Greek pantheon as a centaur.<citation needed?>

Ovid tells us[9] another version of Chiron's death. In this version both Chiron and his student (see below) Achilles are in the cave on Mt. Pelion with Hercules. When Chiron admires the weapons of the mighty hero, Achilles is temped to touch them making one of the arrows fall and strike the left foot of the Centaur. Achilles cried, as he would for his father, as Chiron left for the skies.


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Chiron signifies our 'original wound', or our 'first wound', the one that never heals.

Chiron has an orbit of 52 years, and this is the time that it has gone through the zodiac once in our lives..and we at that time, or at age 52, with the first complete pass, we begin to have the opportunity to reflect and integrate our 'original wound'. Before that, we can be merely a spectator to our given pain, in the various angles and connections to this 'undying hurt'. As the first pass completes at this age of 52, we begin to integrate it consciously or more in a state of awareness and thus gain insight and relief in a conscious way.

I have a fairly prominently placed Chiron, so I'm more aware of that 'original wound' component than some others might be. And the helping and healing of humankind via it.

"Dionysius was loved by Chiron, from whom he learned chants and dances, the bacchic rites and initiations."

I am also fairly deeply connected to this particular god, at the same time.


We can act out attempts/acts at healing others through our original wound. For example, if one had the design to be a doctor (due to their astrological chart) , and specialized in neural surgery and helping people that way, one might find chiron connected to those alignments in their chart involving surgery. And this placement of chiron might have come about as a head injury as a child which affected one deeply..and thus a permanent connection to healing the heads of others.

An 'original wound' that one re-lives continually. Besides re-living it in the self, when the angles of planets connect to it, at given times of given transits. Not specifically a professional aspect but that it is the 'original would that never heals', until the integration proper begins at age 52. Like Chiron, release begins at age 52. (Chiron found his way out, his release...and then so do you.)

You can see that it is connected to limits, Cronus, father time, Saturn. Saturn, the great limiter sets the stage for the desire/awareness to fix, via direct reflection, feeling...need... and the wound itself. But for the sake of healing others. A service to humanity, a 'service to others' aspect, within the self. Saturn limits, we cannot heal the self, we heal others and then we gain release and relief finally, when the first orbit comes to it's return or original zodiacal angle at said age of 52. This does not mean we stop the attempts to heal others, but it is done in a more aware state after this first 'pass' at age 52.

[ulli]

Greetings Ulli: Would you please explain the significance of Chiron in a Natal Chart?
It is my understanding some astrologers chart it and some do not.

Having studied astrology before Chiron was discovered and then moved away to a tiny island I missed out on the early debates on Chiron and only since around 2000 started to occasionally pay attention. I can't really answer from a personal knowledge base. My favorite software which I use for setting up charts also has no Chiron ephemeris.
I know I have Chiron in Sagittarius, square my natal Saturn. Before I met my husband, who is a Sagittarius with a sun Saturn conjunction I had a dream of seeing a desolate landscape, totally untended, and there appeared a centaur, walking slowly, as if injured, and had the saddest expression on his face. My husband is a medical doctor, who knew since age three that he would study medicine one day. He is a popular GP, and being Saturnian, he is far more serious and responsible than Sagittarians normally are. To me he is the personification of my natal Chiron. I would have studied medicine myself, but was short of one year of Latin, a requirement back then was three full school years of Latin.
So I projected my inner healer out.
Here is a website full of intersting looking articles about Chiron which I will read myself as you woke up my interest, and made me aware how much I have ignored Chiron all these years.
Thanks also to Carmody, for his contribution.
http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm

[ulli]

Greetings Ulli: Would you please explain the significance of Chiron in a Natal Chart?
It is my understanding some astrologers chart it and some do not.

I'm so grateful to you for bringing that question. It triggered a search which revealed some fascinating answers, here I am waking up after only three hours of sleep and gaining massive insights.

This is part of an article I found on that website. Chiron seems to rule the Here and Now thread.

"Kairos means “the loaded time” or “the time of bursting potential,” according to ancient Greek usage. Since the discovery of the new astronomical body, Chiron, some astrologers are now referring to as Chirotic time. Essentially synchronistic in nature, kairotic time opens the door to timeless eternity. “Eternity has nothing to do with time," said Joseph Campbell. “Eternity is that dimension of here and now which thinking in time cuts out....The experience of eternity right here and now is the function of life.” (Power of Myth) These are moments when something extraordinary catches our breath, reminding us of the universal life source. These are the “thin places” of Celtic mythology, places where the veil of illusion between the visible and invisible is most transparent.
The experience of time is variable, highly individual and related to our state of consciousness. On the threshold of a consciousness shift or when synchronistic circumstance takes us by surprise, our sense of time is altered. We pass through a membrane of awareness, where time-space and soul meaning are aligned. Time curves from the gravity of meaning, bending around the curve of the spiral that alters our experience momentarily or inalterably.
"Each time the world surprises us with its twisting time-bends, a shiver runs through our soul...time bends to meet the curve of our souls....Either we meet it half-way or we don’t." —Phil Cousineau, (In Once and Future Myths [I think], p3)
Jean Houston talks of this kind of time in a collective sense: This is an incredibly kairotic time in history....we have extraordinary access to the sacred principles, powers and creations that are yearning at the crossroads of existence to enter into time. (in Hanon, Sacred Space, p143, quoting Lynn Aune, Sacred Psychology and the Rise of the Feminine: An Interview with Jean Houston, “ Women of Power, #12)
"Yearning at the crossroads of existence to enter into time”: this liminal threshold is very kairotic/Chirotic. Chiron seeks fusion of psyche with soma, infusing the here-and-now with psycho-spiritual immediacy. For women and men, to take the time and place apart from our “normal” lives allows a new level of consciousness to manifest in the immediacy of our daily lives. It is the quantum leap that evokes synchronicities as it brings our multidimensional bodies into alignment. Chiron is shamanic in its capacity to alter/altar time/space reality—to render it universal and sacred and fundamentally experiential."

[Lisab]

Wow Ulli and Carmody thanks so interesting. I was reading about Chiron only the other day on astrologer Steve Judd's blog that some may find interesting.

Chiron in mythology is half man, half horse, the centaur. Accidentally and mortally wounded by one of his disciples, Achilles, but unable to die because of his inherited immortality. Chiron is forever the wounded healer. He teaches us not to fragment ourselves into different parts, but instead to accept that psychologically, emotionally, mentally and physically we combine in a 3 dimensional body. He is half human and half animal - the hidden teaching here is for us to remember to identify with our animal side, that we are not just thought and civilised beings, we have a part of us that has an animal nature. Chiron tells us to blend the human intuition with the animal instinct to create a greater whole.
Two and two equals five. With its fifty one year orbit, Chiron represents the maturity of the ages - at 51 you are still young enough to dance and be physically proactive, but old enough to have accumulated wisdom.
People with strong Chiron positions especially to the sun or the Moon, will have either a fascination or a real aversion to horses ( or their metal equivalent motorbikes).

Without Chiron our worlds will always be split into the conscious and unconscious, forever seperate. But Chiron links the disparate sides of our nature, introduces holism and helps us become ever more intergrated with our body, mind and soul. Chiron doesnt heal by practice - Chiron heals by example, so walk your talk and live according to your own philosophies - not for nothing is Chiron associated with both Virgo and Sagittarius. Virgo because of the healing element and Sag for the learning, teaching and horses. Because of the strangeness of its orbit, sign placing is not really able to be interpreted - Chiron is 18 months in Virgo, but 8 years in Pisces. Make friends with horses - powerful shamanic power totem animals for Chironic persons.

[modwiz]

Wow Ulli and Carmody thanks so interesting. I was reading about Chiron only the other day on astrologer Steve Judd's blog that some may find interesting.

Chiron in mythology is half man, half horse, the centaur. Accidentally and mortally wounded by one of his disciples, Achilles, but unable to die because of his inherited immortality. Chiron is forever the wounded healer. He teaches us not to fragment ourselves into different parts, but instead to accept that psychologically, emotionally, mentally and physically we combine in a 3 dimensional body. He is half human and half animal - the hidden teaching here is for us to remember to identify with our animal side, that we are not just thought and civilised beings, we have a part of us that has an animal nature. Chiron tells us to blend the human intuition with the animal instinct to create a greater whole.
Two and two equals five. With its fifty one year orbit, Chiron represents the maturity of the ages - at 51 you are still young enough to dance and be physically proactive, but old enough to have accumulated wisdom.
People with strong Chiron positions especially to the sun or the Moon, will have either a fascination or a real aversion to horses ( or their metal equivalent motorbikes).

Without Chiron our worlds will always be split into the conscious and unconscious, forever seperate. But Chiron links the disparate sides of our nature, introduces holism and helps us become ever more intergrated with our body, mind and soul. Chiron doesnt heal by practice - Chiron heals by example, so walk your talk and live according to your own philosophies - not for nothing is Chiron associated with both Virgo and Sagittarius. Virgo because of the healing element and Sag for the learning, teaching and horses. Because of the strangeness of its orbit, sign placing is not really able to be interpreted - Chiron is 18 months in Virgo, but 8 years in Pisces. Make friends with horses - powerful shamanic power totem animals for Chironic persons.

I find the longer time spent in Virgo most intriguing, and appropriate. The affiliation with Virgo and the healing arts and Chiron with the same has a 'correctness' to it. I am glad it gets to spend 'quality time' in a sign it resonates so well with. The fact that Chiron was not given to the lustiness of the regular centaur gives this arrangement even more 'poetry'.

All of this information about Chiron is very fascinating and , of course, a synchronicity. One which will reveal itself in stages. Unless Carmody sees it and gives it to us all on a big platter to gorge our cerebrums with. That would work also. I would make a thanksgiving synchronicity analogy here but the Native American in me, (both sides) cannot 'stomach' it. :tape2:

You really gave me an interesting piece for meditation here, Lisab.

[Lisab]

Oh and this also from same astrologer which I found really interesting.
Every single one of us has a side of ourselves that we don't like. Most of us spend years, decades and even lifetimes trying to rid ourselves of shadow, and the more you try and rid yourself of it, the stronger it gets, until in time the dark side consumes and absorbs the individual an you become the person you've always been scared of being. The position of Chiron in the heavens/chart shows where that shadow is and how it manifests. But then some people turn round to their dark side and say,"Ok, I've fought you for years and you're still there, so let's call it a truce, OK?" You give the shadow a dungeon to fester in one of the darker corners of your being, knowing that by doing so the shadow will feel part of the team instead of rejected and abandoned.
Chiron leads to dichotomy, fragmentation and self absorbtion, but also to integration, assiliation and holism. Chiron's orbit is pear shaped. At its furtherstmost point it touches the innermost point of Uranus's orbit,and at its inner most point it touches the outermost point of Saturn's orbit, so Chiron links the inner visible and the outer visible planets.

At the personal level, Chiron's mantras are along the lines of 'never going to be good enough, but always getting better'. and '98 per cent is good enough, if you had 100% you'd have wings on your back!'. Chiron is where you sabatage yourself, where you end up feeling like a springboard for other people's success, feeling taken advantage of and undervalued. Chiron is also where through the principle of holism and self acceptance, you can empower and catalyse others into healing themselves. Dont do it for them because that breeds dependancy, but do empower them do it for themselves.

At the global level, Chiron was discovered (late 1978)at the time of the advent of the holistic revolution, since when alternative and complimentary therapies and practices as well as holistic philosophies and idealogies became commonplace. Chiron links the unconscious and transpersonal with the HERE AND NOW, it is the bridge between worlds. it may be a little rock a few hundred miles across, but it has enriched both the holistic re-evolution and astrology - to do a chart without Chiron would now be inconvievable.

That was actually the article I was looking for.

[astrid]

Interesting posts on Chiron everyone, thanks!!
@ Lisab, i always had a close relationship with horses as a child, and have one as a power animal also.
Such amazing animals.

Ok... updating on fast.

Today day 18, has been my toughest day yet.
I had to go out for supplies today, and this time,
being around food really threw me, and i have been
hungry, well, more like staving all day.
Also being " out there" in the masses was bordering
on painful, so i must be really sensitive at the moment.

I'm determined to get to 21 days though, so i will
soldier on. Really noticing the weight loss this week,
none of my clothes are fitting me. I hit a bit of a self
doubt phase , but that was fleeting. Not with the fast
more about people, a confidence thing, came out of
nowhere too.

I'm still on a major cleaning frenzy, i guess as within
so without, makes sense.

I have a guest staying on the weekend , so i will have
to plan my return to eating wisely. Typically when i have
guests i cook up a feast, so i will have to do some
research on some compromise meals.
Or maybe go out somewhere Thai or Japanese.
Usually good for healthy choices.

Hopefully i will be more stable tomorrow.

[ulli]

Choices and options. The freer one is, the more options there are and decisions have to be made.

With a long wish list there is no issue...I know what I want and I go after it.
But what happens when I stop trusting my own desires and wishes?
Or when all my needs are met and I don't need glamour, status, gadgets, and got rid of my neediness?

When I set out on my career in fashion it was easy...I usually wanted a look I hadn't seen before
and I just created it. All the textures and colors were in those London wool shops...
and also, being in London where individuality is highly rated, I soon had success
and for years my stuff sold faster than I could produce it.
Then the first trap...my look became stereo-typed. My customers would not let me move on;
they wanted the same old look year after year.
My new designs and ideas ended up getting stuck on the rails, and soon had to be sold at cost.

The second trap was my obligation to my workers...the production was never allowed to go down,
or there would be people without work.
People who were dependent on me, and always let me know it.

I see today's paradigm shift and the Free Energy issue in a similar light.
Unless Astrid gains world status as a leader in how to survive on very little food,
and Modwiz becomes a world leader in how to live in a tent,
I don't know what will happen to all those families with small children while the current jobs market is being dismantled.
Without the rich who are bored and love to shop just to entertain themselves arts and crafts would just disappear.
Yesterday at the local mall I watched people buying bracelets which I sold wholesale for $5 and the kiosk sold for $15, which in a Chinese dollar store would sell 3 for a dollar. But these customers would never go near a Chinese dollar store.
For the sake of everyone I still hope there won't be a financial meltdown.
Maybe the ones who are now looking at the fall-out of such a scenario will be inspired to come up with a good transition solution.

[Carmody]

My Chart is Chironic in the extreme. I carry my wound of the past (was) lives but I am NOW (Not Was) and I use it to leverage the self, to help others. But the wound never heals. It drives me. I recognize what it is, but I leave it open, to understand the pain thought ecstasy (Kundalini) which is the Door of co-joining (Kundalini) as it give me access to the realms of the other spaces and places, the dimensional spaces, and I use that connection to raise others and free them. Sometimes directly. And so on. The balance of the mars-moon-venus in my chart helps give me the balance to handle the opening of that door, and process and direct that energy, in or out.

Venus is a personal planet, the planet of love, the heart, mars is transpersonal (external but still close to the personal, mars next to earth), war, affects all, but still created by the emotions spinning around humans..just as back at love, the personal, the moon spins those energies around humans at the personal level. The balance of Love, personal, heart, internal, with the externalization, one layer down in effect (mars), into the animal herd-all emotions, the animal response but still a personal emotion.(mars)

'We externalize(mars) the internal (Venus) via and through the instinctual body (emotions-moon). the moon..spins. Out of kilter, offset input and offset output. Never centered. Until we balance ourselves, living in knowing that the body-emotions spin things out of kilter..and then recognize this through and through, and live and act in that knowing of the spin-offset..until we live in the balance and knowing of this spin-offset filter (moon-emotions/'in and out', we will never have the balance to be clear. Every missive we fire and every bit that comes in, has a twisted trajectory.

Remember a comment of mine about how the body is organized as edifices go. emotions came first in the tree of life. The branches/leaves of intellect..are built on the branches of the trunk, which is the emotions. All in and all out is filtered and shaped by the body-emotions. In totality. First step to freedom is becoming that as a state of knowing and being. to compensate for this primary and baseline two way filter/alteration. Unknowns are always analyzed/shifted/colored via emotions, first. In exactly the same way we grew as a young edifice/body/avatar/duality.

The tune I brought in earlier is entirely chironic and was a joke and truth on multiple, multiple levels. It was no casual yootoob link with little meaning: "I feel better than James Brown" (a take on one of his most famous tunes, "I Feel Good!" (I knew that I would now)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TxHInkyNpg&feature=related

When the externalized pressures (mars) are scratching at the door, exiting our emotions (the spinning moon, knocks our correct response out of kilter, in on direction), and then exiting our emotions about love and what is it's personal representation (Venus), we can get tangled or spun by our emotions, the spinning moon. (Note the moon and it's orbit is entirely artificial and not one thing in science can explain it, and never has. the moon is astronomy's biggest enigma and should not and cannot exist. yet we seem to ignore that. ask yourself why. We go outside and look at the beauty of the moon.

right.

Not quite.

The moon is the reason you are always twisted in your emotions. It is an outward 3d manifestation of it's dimensional effect on your timeline/being/'stageplay of life'.

Which is the problem of war for personal love and internal fear, externalized in an impersonal way, thus our lack of internal connection to externalization of the event involving mars -war.

Then we spin in our emotions (the moon spins us about, we never score a perfect hit, it is shifted) created by this trans-personal externalized group situation of war. for human growth, war is a horrible thing... for human growth, if one can get there, war is a healing thing. A growing thing. Much to our horror, it indeed is. Only the unevolved wants, or fails to recognize it's danger. Yet this comes for us all, at times in our lives.

Which is the why of my linking of that tune, in the other thread. in the lyrics...and in the band/tune title. it's a bad road, I've been there, it drives me, in some ways.

'Don't turn there. don't take it'. It leads right down into the swamps." ..."You all ain't from around here, are yuh? where you boys trying to get to? the swamp? alright...."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GkkZPNiuVE&feature=player_embedded

The name of the band BooZoo (ghost)(duality being in/on earth). Title of song. "Keep going" (don't turn there)(leads right down into the swamps)

Go back to my comment about the 1,000% characteristic of the moon's sheer and impossible for science to ignore IMPOSSIBILITY. Yet they accept it for some reason. Why is that?

Hidden in plain sight.

duality being. Multiple layers. I hope some begin to get it now. Micheal Newton. Dolores Cannon. etc.

The beatings will continue until the morale improves; the morale will continue until the beatings improve. Both are true.

[9eagle9]

Working in the psyche of people you find a lot of roles or shadows such as LisaB described. The emphasis is we find something we don't 'like'. Why we don't like that role or self is usually because we've established a belief around it. If one had found a 'witch' self inhabiting thier psyche and had the established distasteful beliefs about a witch what are we doing to that aspect of ourself. We find ourselves comparing it to something we do like and finding it lacking, which is re-establishing wounds. Denial of self. How is that self expressing itself in one's daily life or does one even notice?. People like the idea of dimensional or multidimensional selves as long as that self is something they find appealing---,in comparing like and dislike values to them we are squelching multi dimensional or facets of one's self in composite. How many more 'appealing' selves are going to express themselves if they are observing our treamtment of what is viewed ' a shadow' self.

What is it that we find so unappealing about our shadows? They perhaps were not even shadows until we began to view them that way. Hidden aspects of ourselves, occult selves. What is hidden.

What is it doing exactly that we find we don't 'like' it? We keep perpetrating the wound on it and perhaps it keeps rebelling in some fashion? we keep insisting we don't like it and so it acts out?

The entire Chiron aspect is interesting as it correlates to those selves which are either based in experience or wounds that need to be reconciled. Reconciliation or re-inegration of self. Commonly it is the wounded inner child that is not allowed to expess itself because we are judging its wounds based on adult comparisons. Adult-erating it.

On a broader level we collectively were inflicted with a psychic wound or trauma. Curious how in our collective history we don't recall much prior to the flood. What happened during the flood and is that time coincident with this collective psyche trauma? It would seem like it if we were much more innocent (unwounded) and our established physical world suddenly came crashing round our heads. If my roof collapses today and the walls were to fall inward, I'd be forgetting myself for a time. Maybe I'd my knickers in such a wad over this crashing down of my established world I'd forget to go back and re-establish myself from to the point prior to when my house collasped on me?

Much of our positing is about finding out who we really are. We don't know because we don't have the recall, and if we had a marker for it like a fragment of self we may deny it. Or find it distasteful.

Listening to people still complaining about liberals in politics (to which I claw at my face and think 'are we STILL there!?) it would seem that if we want to eradicate liberalism then you must first abate all traces of conservatism in yourself. You'd no longer have that conservative self to react to a different emotional and mindset of liberalism.

Much of the problems that come along with that is we start judging who we really are. And who we really are without all the adult-erations or adulteries, the adult mind imposing judgement on the inner child? What were we Pre-flood? Who were we then, how did we express ourselves? We can't know consciously, there's little to be found of historical evidence and what we do find is a ....implications of spirtually and technologically advanced cultures.

Once we've dealt with wounds inflicted in this lifetime one is better able to view the collective wound that was imposed on us in the past that cut us off from who we really are or caused us not to have conscious recall of it? How the world really is instead of how we believe the world and ourselves (in relation to it). And the mechanisms we keep re-entrenching in. For ten years I've been watching people describe dreams, portents and 'omens' of great catclysms and positioning them in the future---most of our 2012 predictions are made about great natural catasrophes occuring. What if this is less a predictive event but a recall event of the psyche trauma we once had inflicted on us collectively. We are still reeling from it? I have a friend that has a 'self' she claims makes these sorts of negative predictions and she dislikes that self. I'd have to suggest that she stop dislking that self because its making a predictive event of fire, flood and famine in the future and start respecting it for what it has to tell her of the past. We seem to keep wanting to create another global catastrophe in order to want to work out the sh*t from the last one.

Is the degree of positioning in Chiron in one's individual chart indicative of how much woundedness we are carrying?

It would be interesting if we could know our birthtimes in lives previous,to mark the 'degree' of progress we've made. Or if one spent a lot of time abating the personal and collective wounds (or perhaps viewing our personal state of woundedness as that which composites the collective?) what degree of woundedness would show up in the chart of the next life time? It's all about degrees ultimately isn't it? The degree of woundedness. If we had those birthtimes and even death times of lives previously we'd be charting our degree of progress (or lack of...lol) through time.

[ulli]

Whether we believe in past lives, or that we are the product of childhood experiences, makes little difference once one agrees that the self is infinitely complex.
During those moments when I doubted astrology 'truth' I even thought that perception is everything, just say the word, and wham...we are either in our infinite emotional selves, or our equally infinite intellectual selves. The here and now for me at this moment is about integrating the two most recent posts by Carmody and 9eagle9...
each line I read here brought some mental association into play...
Carmody's post reminded me of what I read in Ingo Swann's book ' Penetration', which is about the moon as an artificial object.
The externalized Martian Moon. Then 9eagle9's post which looks at hurts and emotions, all brought to mind astrological Moon associations...
and the flickering thoughts that arose in me while reading her post were trying to dance with those thoughts Carmody's post had triggered in me....
and make a unified and logical image.

Then relate that image to my Here and Now reality, sitting by the side of the ocean, which has swells so high they make safe swimming impossible.
Water in the planet and water in our bodies; Dr. Emoto said the ratio was the same.
Infinite microcosm and infinite macrocosm....stretching away in all directions
me in the center.
All that is left to say is
I LOVE YOU ALL!

[Carmody]

global scaling, as above so below.

Human harms animal in state of unknowing. this must end.

The animal knows only that it is harmed.

As above, so below. Global scaling. Universal scaling.

This place, this school. It harms it's students.

The ones running this school are in the same boat as Humans who harm animals.

They are not a godhead. They learn as well.

This experiment, this school....MUST END.

It must be allowed to evolve. No more twisting, no more shifting, no more repetition.

No matter how, like the farming of animals..no matter how profitable it has been. The torturing of this flesh......must end.

[9eagle9]

It is very much a scale that ripples out from an individual level to a global level. As it is above so it is below . Everything going on 'out' there is occuring outside our windows and internally.

We'll all watched two people engaged in horrendous, wounding relationships with each other. They break up then they get back together , repeatedly getting back together trying to make things work. But they can't. They are attempting to work out their individual wounds not their relationship. Their woundedness is attracting them to each other. Similar wounds. The relationship is the just the platform they've chosen to thrash out similar wounds. Their wounds attracted them to each other. We need someting to stand on be it a relationship or the earth in order to work our crap out. A common frame of reference as it were.

Eventually a state of exhaustion occurs, the relationship dies, and they intiate new relationships with others with similar wounds and the Cycle starts all over again.

That's on a small micro-cosm way but it sure sounds like the cycle of reincarnation to me.

We have found that we break re-curring patterns of wound relationships by abating our wounds. We stop agreeing to get in the same relationships over and over again , with only the names and faces changes. All abused people know that the only way to get out of their chain of abusive relationships was to change or rather heal something in themselves.

[9eagle9]

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Since LoTR was used earlier upstream......

Our Chiron of the movie, (Theoden) posed a question 'what happened to the horse and rider.'

A better quetion might be posed as to what happens when the horse and rider are united again.

[meeradas]

here and now, pondering if i should tell you.
Deciding against it, as too tired, and hungry, after
yesterday's motorcycle ride thru the wonderful late autumn woods,
sun, setting over the hills, the valleys already full of ground-hugging mist.
Awesome views. What a reward. Am woohooing twice, under the helmet [never do that, normally].
Mother be praised.
Hot bath in the hotel to return to normal body temperature, then off to the
castle, for a friends' reunion, and some real "satsang". Letting all weight fall, rejoice in absolute silence. The real food.

Riding back through the mist-turned-thickest-fog at night,
sight about 50 feet only, high beams making it worse:
Driving thru light [without sight]!
Around 3 degrees centigrade, and i have to drive visor up, as the fog completely steams it shut.
Ever drove more than 50 mph without eye protection? NICE.
[let me add: the above 50 mph only for a very short portion of the ride... am not too suicidal these days!]

Ice crystals in brows and beard, ha. 'sit Christmas yet? Red eyes speak of sth else...

Lookin' forward to "same thing, different", next Monday.

HUGFEST, folks!

PS: Meal, now!

[astrid]

Great posts ,
Abusive relationship cycles, know that one
only too well Same man only different pants .
More challenging to over come as it was all so
"normal" for me coming from a war zone family .
But yes eventually figured that it was all about me
and nothing about them .

I'm seeing the chaos in the world as simply being a
reflection of the collective inner chaos. Which is why
these days mostly I work on the inside . It's all a dream
only some dreams are more solid than others. It's through
accessing those higher states that we are able to dream
new dreams into existence. Such things were previously
only available to the chosen few. But in these times
that doorway is open to those who say yes to life.

Woke up feeling in one piece again
although do remember some processing over night
with my unworthiness shadow aspect. No accident
that the shadow is a current topic here and now .
My favorite method these days is to embrace all
aspects of myself in a non judgement compassionate
way. I find that establishing a witness mode helps
enormously, staying in a neutral position and becoming
a compassion observer of oneself .
I know that my people fears are a pretty major core
Issue and it's going to take some time and hard work
to process. And hiding in my house is not the answer
nor is throwing myself in the deep end of the pool.
So baby steps . It's pretty awesome that fasting is
digging out some of my core issues .

More later

[modwiz]

So, I had my first dream about this village here last night. It was a bit of a hybrid. I was giving Ulli a massage, or at least the back of her legs. It was at my campsite but in this 'village'. An interesting hybrid of locales. Although there was nobody else in the scene/dream, everybody from the 'village' was 'present'. There was some dialogue to the dream between Ulli and me, but I do not remember it enough other than to say it pertained to what she needed for her legs and some chat about 'thread' happenings.

Then I woke up. I thought I'd share.

[ulli]

So, I had my first dream about this village here last night. It was a bit of a hybrid. I was giving Ulli a massage, or at least the back of her legs. It was at my campsite but in this 'village'. An interesting hybrid of locales. Although there was nobody else in the scene/dream, everybody from the 'village' was 'present'. There was some dialogue to the dream between Ulli and me, but I do not remember it enough other than to say it pertained to what she needed for her legs and some chat about 'thread' happenings.

Then I woke up. I thought I'd share.

Legs in dreams usually mean forward movement, or progress.
Ulli to you might mean astrology ...not sure what else you might associate me with...fashion?
Maybe it means you were designing some new winter gear for yourself...

but even then one should reduce that image further...
since the dreamer is the subconscious self
well, I will leave that up to you.
One can get assistance with dream interpretation but ultimately it is a matter of reconciling the different inner selves.
which live inside us and which other people only help as image association.

[modwiz]

So, I had my first dream about this village here last night. It was a bit of a hybrid. I was giving Ulli a massage, or at least the back of her legs. It was at my campsite but in this 'village'. An interesting hybrid of locales. Although there was nobody else in the scene/dream, everybody from the 'village' was 'present'. There was some dialogue to the dream between Ulli and me, but I do not remember it enough other than to say it pertained to what she needed for her legs and some chat about 'thread' happenings.

Then I woke up. I thought I'd share.

Legs in dreams usually mean forward movement, or progress.
Ulli to you might mean astrology ...not sure what else you might associate me with...fashion?
Maybe it means you were designing some new winter gear for yourself...

but even then one should reduce that image further...
since the dreamer is the subconscious self
well, I will leave that up to you.
One can get assistance with dream interpretation but ultimately it is a matter of reconciling the different inner selves.
which live inside us and which other people only help as image association.

I associate you with astrology instead of fashion although I really just associate you, with you the person. My sense of the dream was making use of the other reality and having some quality time with people I enjoy. Making use of the different rules to allow for a situation not allowed in the one I occupy sitting in front of my computer.

No analysis or subconscious stuff here, just hanging out having some fun. Dream time very well spent, IMO.

[ulli]

Well that does sound very straightforward and I'm glad we both had a good time.

Indeed, what would I do without my village?

Hey, Modwiz...any gossip you'd like to share??? :gossip:

[modwiz]

Well that does sound very straightforward and I'm glad we both had a good time.

Indeed, what would I do without my village?

Hey, Modwiz...any gossip you'd like to share??? :gossip:

Nope. The vibe there was even higher than the thread village. Makes sense because the essences in the dream were a lot clearer than they are here. Less drama. And that is quite a feat in a village with a low drama level to start with.

[ulli]

Well that does sound very straightforward and I'm glad we both had a good time.

Indeed, what would I do without my village?

Hey, Modwiz...any gossip you'd like to share??? :gossip:

Nope. The vibe there was even higher than the thread village. Makes sense because the essences in the dream were a lot clearer than they are here. Less drama. And that is quite a feat in a village with a low drama level to start with.

Now I really wish I had been there in your dream.
But who knows if "EYE" even exist....

all of life is but a dream....
9FsWAnnJh5I

[modwiz]

Well that does sound very straightforward and I'm glad we both had a good time.

Indeed, what would I do without my village?

Hey, Modwiz...any gossip you'd like to share??? :gossip:

Nope. The vibe there was even higher than the thread village. Makes sense because the essences in the dream were a lot clearer than they are here. Less drama. And that is quite a feat in a village with a low drama level to start with.

Now I really wish I had been there in your dream.
But who knows if "EYE" even exist....

all of life is but a dream....


I agree with the life is a dream, but then it just empowers dreaming and dreams. It allows us to know how important thought, and what we think, is. It gives us the key to understanding a bigger picture and to take our places as co-creators in the unfolding of the Universe.

Life is a dream? Yeah baby, and isn't that great!

[ulli]

Actually, Modwiz, you did have a premonition dream,
because I will Here and Now tell you about my inflamed knee,
which has gradually been cured with regular swimming.
So it's this conversation that you dreamt about.

[ulli]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branches hanging over it...

Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES. This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

[modwiz]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

Nah. It's just my DNA shifting into a higher vibration. Thanks for noticing.

Are you trying to get a free massage??? :wacko:

I miss my tent, only 5 months and a week left.

[Carmody]

I know the feeling. i can't live in the city.

Apartment buildings.. I just start shaking thinking about it.

I'd be stuck walking into everyone's dreams. the entire building. Like kids that won't shut up and stop bouncing on the furniture, painting on the walls, etc.

I'd probably teach them to shut up. But they'd likely still drive me nuts. I might blow a gasket for a second and cause one of them serious (real) grief.

I live out of town on a private road. I'm lucky to have found the house to rent.

Workplaces? my mother is a teacher, my aunt is a teacher, my brother has been a teacher, and well.... in my case and in theirs..before we are done, the entire building syncs on us. Everyone lean to the left! we have no specific leadership presence. it just happens that way. Oh yes. My sister. the same.

[ulli]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

Nah. It's just my DNA shifting into a higher vibration. Thanks for noticing.

Are you trying to get a free massage??? :wacko:

I miss my tent, only 5 months and a week left.

How did you guess? I'm always trying to get a free massage, anywhere, any time.
There is a poor woman in the village near us in Costa Rica, who lives in a really humble little house. She is a cancer survivor, and to get her operation everyone in the village collected money to help her pay for it, including us. That was five years ago.
Then one of the doctors she met at the hospital financed her to become a physiotherapist, they were doing special courses at the University of Costa Rica for uneducated rural people to get this training.
Anyway, just before leaving Costa Rica I asked her to give me one of her massages, and lo and behold...she was incredible.
Then my husband was next...he has had a bursitis in his left shoulder since months ago, and she got rid of it for him.
She always wanted to be a massage therapist.
Now we have installed her at a half price rent in our medical center...just charging her $125 a month in rent...and she was so grateful that we gave her that opportunity that she offered us both a free massage ...not sure yet if once or twice a month.
Hehe.
My landlady here in Barbados gives me a deal too, not cheap, at $50, when normally she charges $80.
She does the stars, carries a bed into their mansions. She even massaged Oprah.

[eaglespirit]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

...and one more thing Here and Nowers..
I Love You All!

[ulli]

Funny that none of you asked what I meant by "branding" ...

made no sense at all.
Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES.
This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

[ulli]

I know the feeling. i can't live in the city.

Apartment buildings.. I just start shaking thinking about it.

I'd be stuck walking into everyone's dreams. the entire building. Like kids that won't shut up and stop bouncing on the furniture, painting on the walls, etc.

I'd probably teach them to shut up. But they'd likely still drive me nuts. I might blow a gasket for a second and cause one of them serious (real) grief.

I live out of town on a private road. I'm lucky to have found the house to rent.

Workplaces? my mother is a teacher, my aunt is a teacher, my brother has been a teacher, and well.... in my case and in theirs..before we are done, the entire building syncs on us. Everyone lean to the left! we have no specific leadership presence. it just happens that way. Oh yes. My sister. the same.

Not sure if I understand this post. I do understand the part about not wanting to live in an apartment building...can totally relate.
But that last part, Carmody, what mean ???

P.S. Ok I get it...lean to left, as in socialist?
I was thinking of people leaning to balance a sail boat.
Duh!
Dyslexia, ADHD, autism...you name it, I've got it.

[Carmody]

I've never had a massage. No idea what it is like.

the last time i recall consciously doing something really important, was this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/7367191/Woman-killed-in-freak-lawnmower-accident-named.html). I'm not fond of linking such things as one must think of the families and those who remain behind. I will remove this link shortly. I got her out of that horror, as it happened. She was on the way to her daughter's. it was her birthday, IIRC. Her life was getting great... and then, this thing, from behind. thus the aspect that causes problems, in some cases.

[ulli]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

...and one more thing Here and Nowers..
I Love You All!

All the various Avalon Eagles are most welcome in this village.
Keep the rat population down....
(oops, I forgot, I'm a rat in the Chinese horoscope.)
Ok not rats then, nor snakes. What can we offer you to eat? And please don't trouble our kittens.

[Carmody]

I know the feeling. i can't live in the city.

Apartment buildings.. I just start shaking thinking about it.

I'd be stuck walking into everyone's dreams. the entire building. Like kids that won't shut up and stop bouncing on the furniture, painting on the walls, etc.

I'd probably teach them to shut up. But they'd likely still drive me nuts. I might blow a gasket for a second and cause one of them serious (real) grief.

I live out of town on a private road. I'm lucky to have found the house to rent.

Workplaces? my mother is a teacher, my aunt is a teacher, my brother has been a teacher, and well.... in my case and in theirs..before we are done, the entire building syncs on us. Everyone lean to the left! we have no specific leadership presence. it just happens that way. Oh yes. My sister. the same.

Not sure if I understand this post. I do understand the part about not wanting to live in an apartment building...can totally relate.
But that last part, Carmody, what mean ???

P.S. Ok I get it...lean to left, as in socialist?
I was thinking of people leaning to balance a sail boat.
Duh!
Dyslexia, ADHD, autism...you name it, I've got it.

yes, to balance the boat. No political leanings. I knew that would happen, but I put it in there anyway. :p


"DUhslexADisim".

New word!

[ulli]

I've never had a massage. No idea what it is like.

the last time i recall consciously doing something really important, was this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/7367191/Woman-killed-in-freak-lawnmower-accident-named.html). I'm not fond of linking such things as one must think of the families and those who remain behind. I may remove this link shortly.

What was it you did that was important?

[modwiz]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

Nah. It's just my DNA shifting into a higher vibration. Thanks for noticing.

Are you trying to get a free massage??? :wacko:

I miss my tent, only 5 months and a week left.

How did you guess? I'm always trying to get a free massage, anywhere, any time.
There is a poor woman in the village near us in Costa Rica, who lives in a really humble little house. She is a cancer survivor, and to get her operation everyone in the village collected money to help her pay for it, including us. That was five years ago.
Then one of the doctors she met at the hospital financed her to become a physiotherapist, they were doing special courses at the University of Costa Rica for uneducated rural people to get this training.
Anyway, just before leaving Costa Rica I asked her to give me one of her massages, and lo and behold...she was incredible.
Then my husband was next...he has had a bursitis in his left shoulder since months ago, and she got rid of it for him.
She always wanted to be a massage therapist.
Now we have installed her at a half price rent in our medical center...just charging her $125 a month in rent...and she was so grateful that we gave her that opportunity that she offered us both a free massage ...not sure yet if once or twice a month.
Hehe.
My landlady here in Barbados gives me a deal too, not cheap, at $50, when normally she charges $80.
She does the stars, carries a bed into their mansions. She even massaged Oprah.

I love the story about that woman, especially how good she is.

Just for giggles, I have massaged Monica Lewinsky and her mother, Alec Baldwin's mother, Eric Douglas, Kirk's son, now deceased. That might be it. 50 dollars is a good deal, Ulli. I like people coming to me. Easier to be the boss. I would have it no other way. I occasionally do house calls, charge dearly for some, reasonable for friends. Never really feels right because the environment is usually not as well tweaked as I provide. The energy, and nurturing atmosphere, escapes many people. I also have exquisite control of my climate so that the person is neither too hot or cold. This is an overlooked point by many, including people who have you to their homes. Money and consciousness can be strange bedfellows.

[Carmody]

I've never had a massage. No idea what it is like.

the last time i recall consciously doing something really important, was this. I'm not fond of linking such things as one must think of the families and those who remain behind. I may remove this link shortly.

What was it you did that was important?

I edited my original reply.....a habit of mine. My German side wants to continue the run on sentence. So it does.


I would spend time, sitting up high....upper stratosphere, whatever.....and wait. And then....an accident on exit, someone could not get away clean. And if one feels the call to do something, if they can....well... should they? And, if one can do something....should they stand by and do nothing?

My motto:

If not You, then Who?
If not Now, then When?

[modwiz]

Funny that none of you asked what I meant by "branding" ...

made no sense at all.
Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES.
This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

Being polite can lead to things like not asking.

[Carmody]

Funny that none of you asked what I meant by "branding" ...

made no sense at all.
Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES.
This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

Being polite can lead to things like not asking.

had a friend with a cleft lip. for nearly 10 years I knew not why or how. If he wanted to tell me about it, he would.

[ulli]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

Nah. It's just my DNA shifting into a higher vibration. Thanks for noticing.

Are you trying to get a free massage??? :wacko:

I miss my tent, only 5 months and a week left.

How did you guess? I'm always trying to get a free massage, anywhere, any time.
There is a poor woman in the village near us in Costa Rica, who lives in a really humble little house. She is a cancer survivor, and to get her operation everyone in the village collected money to help her pay for it, including us. That was five years ago.
Then one of the doctors she met at the hospital financed her to become a physiotherapist, they were doing special courses at the University of Costa Rica for uneducated rural people to get this training.
Anyway, just before leaving Costa Rica I asked her to give me one of her massages, and lo and behold...she was incredible.
Then my husband was next...he has had a bursitis in his left shoulder since months ago, and she got rid of it for him.
She always wanted to be a massage therapist.
Now we have installed her at a half price rent in our medical center...just charging her $125 a month in rent...and she was so grateful that we gave her that opportunity that she offered us both a free massage ...not sure yet if once or twice a month.
Hehe.
My landlady here in Barbados gives me a deal too, not cheap, at $50, when normally she charges $80.
She does the stars, carries a bed into their mansions. She even massaged Oprah.

I love the story about that woman, especially how good she is.

Just for giggles, I have massaged Monica Lewinsky and her mother, Alec Baldwin's mother, Eric Douglas, Kirk's son, now deceased. That might be it. 50 dollars is a good deal, Ulli. I like people coming to me. Easier to be the boss. I would have it no other way. I occasionally do house calls, charge dearly for some, reasonable for friends. Never really feels right because the environment is usually not as well tweaked as I provide. The energy, and nurturing atmosphere, escapes many people. I also have exquisite control of my climate so that the person is neither too hot or cold. This is an overlooked point by many, including people who have you to their homes. Money and consciousness can be strange bedfellows.

It is simple things like these that make life magical rather than mediocre.
It doesn't even require a high IQ, just common sense and an all-round awareness and attention to detail.
Money and pricing is all about knowing one's worth,
which is the drum I am beating here at the village.
YOU ALL ARE WORTH IT!!!!
Once people know deep inside that they don't want to rip anyone off...
To integrate the spiritual and the material successfully means that all neurosis dissolves,
and one has reached the banks of the land of sanity.

[ulli]

I've never had a massage. No idea what it is like.

the last time i recall consciously doing something really important, was this. I'm not fond of linking such things as one must think of the families and those who remain behind. I may remove this link shortly.

What was it you did that was important?

I edited my original reply.....a habit of mine. My German side wants to continue the run on sentence. So it does.


I would spend time, sitting up high....upper stratosphere, whatever.....and wait. And then....an accident on exit, someone could not get away clean. And if one feels the call to do something, if they can....well... should they? And, if one can do something....should they stand by and do nothing?

My motto:

If not You, then Who?
If not Now, then When?

Good motto, and rising to the occasion, or in that case, diving to the occasion, would be the obvious thing to do.

About politeness, and withholding questions, I had just faced that choice when I thought would it be rude to ask Carmody to clarify the lawnmower story?
I already knew what he meant, but got a strong tweak to ask him anyway, as others might want to be relieved of their puzzlement.

[Carmody]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

Nah. It's just my DNA shifting into a higher vibration. Thanks for noticing.

Are you trying to get a free massage??? :wacko:

I miss my tent, only 5 months and a week left.

How did you guess? I'm always trying to get a free massage, anywhere, any time.
There is a poor woman in the village near us in Costa Rica, who lives in a really humble little house. She is a cancer survivor, and to get her operation everyone in the village collected money to help her pay for it, including us. That was five years ago.
Then one of the doctors she met at the hospital financed her to become a physiotherapist, they were doing special courses at the University of Costa Rica for uneducated rural people to get this training.
Anyway, just before leaving Costa Rica I asked her to give me one of her massages, and lo and behold...she was incredible.
Then my husband was next...he has had a bursitis in his left shoulder since months ago, and she got rid of it for him.
She always wanted to be a massage therapist.
Now we have installed her at a half price rent in our medical center...just charging her $125 a month in rent...and she was so grateful that we gave her that opportunity that she offered us both a free massage ...not sure yet if once or twice a month.
Hehe.
My landlady here in Barbados gives me a deal too, not cheap, at $50, when normally she charges $80.
She does the stars, carries a bed into their mansions. She even massaged Oprah.

I love the story about that woman, especially how good she is.

Just for giggles, I have massaged Monica Lewinsky and her mother, Alec Baldwin's mother, Eric Douglas, Kirk's son, now deceased. That might be it. 50 dollars is a good deal, Ulli. I like people coming to me. Easier to be the boss. I would have it no other way. I occasionally do house calls, charge dearly for some, reasonable for friends. Never really feels right because the environment is usually not as well tweaked as I provide. The energy, and nurturing atmosphere, escapes many people. I also have exquisite control of my climate so that the person is neither too hot or cold. This is an overlooked point by many, including people who have you to their homes. Money and consciousness can be strange bedfellows.

It is simple things like these that make life magical rather than mediocre.
It doesn't even require a high IQ, just common sense and an all-round awareness and attention to detail.
Money and pricing is all about knowing one's worth,
which is the drum I am beating here at the village.
YOU ALL ARE WORTH IT!!!!
Once people know deep inside that they don't want to rip anyone off...
To integrate the spiritual and the material successfully means that all neurosis dissolves,
and one has reached the banks of the land of sanity.

i've got multi-billion$ patents in cutting edge physics that no one understands. Another $XXB corporation is peering at one of them, right now.

I drive a car with a blown suspension and rusting out fenderwells.

"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius. When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot." --Rabbi Shlomo Riskin

the point where the two dimensions meet and thus form the particle, and then the difference between them. this rush of energy exchange is the area where we truly exist, like the fish sitting still in the flowing stream. That knot of differential, organized, into form. Us, our singularity. our awareness. difference, cycling, frequency. rhythm. music. Half in this dimension, half in the other.

I live for music. The rhythm of life.

qgTYZ_UPlWQ

[ulli]

Hello Cottage Rose...I see you are visiting the Village...nice to see you.
Did you get anything of value from the various responses to your question re. Chiron?
There were quite a few.
And I still want to read more of those articles I bookmarked.

[astrid]

I have a book on Chiron around here somewhere that I bought a month or so back.
Maybe a desk clean up is in order.
But yes, it was a subject on my list to research so thanks everyone for the
reminder.

Interesting day so far, I'm getting triggered a fair bit by childhood memories.
just then in the shower i was transported back to a 5 year old, under some
duress. Water seems to do that to me, it has a habit of transcending me
forward or backwards in time. Also great for creative brainstorming.

[Carmody]

I have a book on Chiron around here somewhere that I bought a month or so back.
Maybe a desk clean up is in order.
But yes, it was a subject on my list to research so thanks everyone for the
reminder.

Interesting day so far, I'm getting triggered a fair bit by childhood memories.
just then in the shower i was transported back to a 5 year old, under some
duress. Water seems to do that to me, it has a habit of transcending me
forward or backwards in time. Also great for creative brainstorming.

The ole' monkey inside relaxes when washing, as well. In most cases. thus the consciousness gets a clear window, for a short time.

Many a great innovative or inventive moment has occurred while the person involved was sitting on the throne. Or in the shower, etc. moments of bodily distraction, or peace. Thus the value of meditation.

The trick, I find, is to recognize the murmur in the brain that is trying to form the words. the emotions rustling about, trying to awaken the Input/output systems. If we shut them down, right down to the brain stem, then the whole body goes silent.

Then we get into those moments that you, Astrid, have been getting. where the mind is conscious and the body is asleep. some mistakenly call this a problem, in these threads about the body being held down or whatnot. This is the best thing that can happen and it is to be encouraged, not feared.

Usually at least once a day, in normal acts of dozing off, I have my capacity to feel my body parts disappear, to go silent, no connection to them...while my mind is fully conscious and awake. I've done it so often that it is something I can get to in minutes. I can even sit there, move my head around, talk to you..and not feel my arms, or legs, etc.

[ulli]

It is simple things like these that make life magical rather than mediocre.
It doesn't even require a high IQ, just common sense and an all-round awareness and attention to detail.
Money and pricing is all about knowing one's worth,
which is the drum I am beating here at the village.
YOU ALL ARE WORTH IT!!!!
Once people know deep inside that they don't want to rip anyone off...
To integrate the spiritual and the material successfully means that all neurosis dissolves,
and one has reached the banks of the land of sanity.

i've got multi-billion$ patents in cutting edge physics that no one understands. Another $XXB corporation is peering at one of them, right now.

I drive a car with a blown suspension and rusting out fenderwells.

"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius. When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot." --Rabbi Shlomo Riskin

the point where the two dimensions meet and thus form the particle, and then the difference between them. this rush of energy exchange is the area where we truly exist, like the fish sitting still in the flowing stream. That knot of differential, organized, into form. Us, our singularity. our awareness. difference, cycling, frequency. rhythm. music. Half in this dimension, half in the other.

I live for music. The rhythm of life.

qgTYZ_UPlWQ

Another thought struck me:
while most normal villages have what's termed 'the village idiot', the Village has a Village Genius.
Probably more than one.
But none rank anywhere near our Carmody.

[astrid]

Sometimes when in the shower i even think i hear voices, whispers, very quiet but they are there.
Water in itself is such an interesting medium, i have always retreated to it when under stress and it quickly calms be down.
Doesn't reflect well in my water bills however.
But yes that chakra stone layout i did the other day where my feet and hands disappeared was very cool.
I hunted down some more appropriate stones/ crystals and i will try again. 2 more days of fasting,
i want to try and max out the experience as far as i can.
Maybe i will do the last night with no sleep.

Btw, loved that last track Carmody.

I listen to Munich web radio a fair bit during the day,
its pretty funky and keeps me on track.

http://www.munich-radio.de/

Some mixes are better than others, but overall its good to work to.

[Cottage Rose]

I thank everyone for the Chiron responses and appreciate the clues. :yo:

The reason for my question is that I was taking a look at a recent chart and considering certain aspects. In the 70's, I was an astrology buff, but I haven't considered it much since then. I vaguely remembered charts I had done for myself. In looking over the recent chart, I realized it was only the addition of Chiron that created the aspect I had never seen before and, for that matter, most of the favorable aspects in the chart. This quote by Lisab stood out because nearly one hemisphere of the old chart was empty without Chiron:


Without Chiron our worlds will always be split into the conscious and unconscious, forever seperate. But Chiron links the disparate sides of our nature, introduces holism and helps us become ever more intergrated with our body, mind and soul.

Thanks to Carmody for his post. A diligent desire to unify brain hemispheres and modify unwanted subconscious programming occurred around age 52 and an age 3 head injury on the bridge of the nose between the eyes has always felt an issue to resolve:


An 'original wound' that one re-lives continually. Besides re-living it in the self, when the angles of planets connect to it, at given times of given transits. Not specifically a professional aspect but that it is the 'original would that never heals', until the integration proper begins at age 52. Like Chiron, release begins at age 52. (Chiron found his way out, his release...and then so do you.)

Ulli, you have moved energy so favorably with your lovely thread. It is a true work of art. Thank you.

Regarding your quote below, I have recently been experiencing an almost timeless calmness. I guard it and tend it so as not to allow any influence to create waves in it. Has anyone else been feeling this?:


The experience of time is variable, highly individual and related to our state of consciousness. On the threshold of a consciousness shift or when synchronistic circumstance takes us by surprise, our sense of time is altered. We pass through a membrane of awareness, where time-space and soul meaning are aligned. Time curves from the gravity of meaning, bending around the curve of the spiral that alters our experience momentarily or inalterably.

[Calz]

All the various Avalon Eagles are most welcome in this village.
Keep the rat population down....
(oops, I forgot, I'm a rat in the Chinese horoscope.)
Ok not rats then, nor snakes. What can we offer you to eat? And please don't trouble our kittens.

Couldn't find anything looking tasty for eagles without sacrificing some poor little critter ...

So ... here and now ... is a compromise of sorts.

Some human critter with an eagle hat munching on a banana ... how is that for a politically correct (to animals) solution???


11478

[Calz]

Funny that none of you asked what I meant by "branding" ...

made no sense at all.
Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES.
This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

Being polite can lead to things like not asking.


Okay ... I can rise above being polite :evil:

11479

[Carmody]

Funny that none of you asked what I meant by "branding" ...

made no sense at all.
Please note everyone...the word 'branding' was meant to read BRANCHES.
This spell checker is incredibly inventive when it doesn't recognize a typo.

Being polite can lead to things like not asking.


Okay ... I can rise above being polite :evil:

11479

thanks cal. Big belly laugh. love that pose and expression.

edit: I remember finding the demotivational website in 2005 or so. I laughed until I was crying.

I still want this cup or poster:

http://www.despair.com/despair.html

Just because it is so darned dark. They're all good.

In case folks did not know, all this stuff originates from the one, the only, the amazing...despair inc. (http://www.despair.com/index.html)

I mean..selling a t-shirt that says "exaggerators anonymous: A trillion strong and growing"

You can't beat that with a stick if you tried.

Their website says:
About Us

It began with a dream. A dream of the perfectly-realized American company.

A company that would create dissatisfied customers in the process of exploiting demoralized employees while selling overpriced and ineffective products to remediate the problems caused by the very process itself.

And now the dream has come true. As nightmares so often do.


¤=[Post Update]=¤


Sometimes when in the shower i even think i hear voices, whispers, very quiet but they are there.
Water in itself is such an interesting medium, i have always retreated to it when under stress and it quickly calms be down.
Doesn't reflect well in my water bills however.
But yes that chakra stone layout i did the other day where my feet and hands disappeared was very cool.
I hunted down some more appropriate stones/ crystals and i will try again. 2 more days of fasting,
i want to try and max out the experience as far as i can.
Maybe i will do the last night with no sleep.

Btw, loved that last track Carmody.

I listen to Munich web radio a fair bit during the day,
its pretty funky and keeps my on track.

http://www.munich-radio.de/

Some mixes are better than others, but overall its good to work to.

thanks for the tunes link. I will explore.

[aranuk]

Just to let everyone know that in Edinburgh, Scotland there were lots of chemtrails in the clear blue sky yesterday. I haven't seen this before. Are the powers that be trying to poison our porridge oats and haggis here? bastardos.

Stan

[Calz]

I still want this cup or poster:

http://www.despair.com/despair.html




Very cool ... thanx for sharing that.

11493

[astrid]

Here's some more funny babies...

http://www.funnypart.com/pictures/FunnyPart-com-army_baby.jpg

http://lifeatthirtysomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/breastfeeding1.jpg

http://www.nicefunnyjokes.com/images/visual-jokes/babies/you-mean-those-boobs-are-for-me-cefjeghlgijncefj.jpg

But i reckon this one is the best......

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/b/baby_pump-14098.jpg

[ulli]

Just to let everyone know that in Edinburgh, Scotland there were lots of chemtrails in the clear blue sky yesterday. I haven't seen this before. Are the powers that be trying to poison our porridge oats and haggis here? bastardos.

Stan


I don't know how angry I would feel if I saw it happening where I live.
Not sure if my anger would do me more damage than the chemtrails ...
Anger trials or Chem trials...
Maybe since no one can do a thing about it it's best to use one's imagination
and tell oneself they are spraying milk and honey.

[heyokah]

****

Protesting with art, resisting with creativity.

A friend of mine posted this one on another forum.

CIVILE DISOBEDIANCE .



http://vimeo.com/32322469


A split in the officer's face.
Protesting in grace ....

****

[Calz]

Whoa ... talk about a rush ...


TWfph3iNC-k

[PurpleLama]

After reading Carmody's link to dumbell sprayers, and having seen several of the phenomena listed there, I am rethinking my thoughts around the subject of chemtrails. It never occurred to me before that it might not be humans from here who are doing this. We might not be hearing about the topic in the mainstream because the PTB, or TBiP, might not know know WTF it's all about.

It might be that we are temporarily being shielded from what's coming dow the pike so the maximum number of people have opportunity to wake up before this consciousness shift gets beyond what they can handle. I've known for a long time that the good guys have been keeping a holding pattern and working the timelines to keep the undesirable events from manifesting in the reality that might otherwise cut off exceptionally large numbers of people from being able to get what's going on.

I've never mentioned it here on avalon, and a lot of people will think I'm full of crap, but here's to DGAF:

back in 08, a few months before the elections, there was a shift where we shut down the timeline where baby bush got bumped off and ol' Dick stepped up and declared martial law, and I will say only a very sick person can imagine what horrors manifested along that line. When the worst happens, the higher ups step in and reset the game, and unless one is paying very close attention in a very particular way, one will be completely unaware that there was even the tiniest hiccup in this confluence of time and space we call reality. It happens all the time. Take it as you will and feel free to think ol' purplelama is *that* kind of crazy. :)

[eaglespirit]

...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

...and one more thing Here and Nowers..
I Love You All!

All the various Avalon Eagles are most welcome in this village.
Keep the rat population down....
(oops, I forgot, I'm a rat in the Chinese horoscope.)
Ok not rats then, nor snakes. What can we offer you to eat? And please don't trouble our kittens.

Deception...the eagles will hunt it out, high and low, and transmute, transform, transcend the energy into a vibration of love!

[9eagle9]

IF you leave buttery popcorn on the ground.....





...and one more thing Modwiz..
I do like your new picture. Much softer around the edges than the earlier ones....
Maybe living in the tower with that wood stove is a lot cozier than the tent with those
snow-laden oak tree branding hanging over it...

...and one more thing Here and Nowers..
I Love You All!

All the various Avalon Eagles are most welcome in this village.
Keep the rat population down....
(oops, I forgot, I'm a rat in the Chinese horoscope.)
Ok not rats then, nor snakes. What can we offer you to eat? And please don't trouble our kittens.

Deception...the eagles will hunt it out, high and low, and transmute, transform, transcend the energy into a vibration of love!

[Carmody]

Just to let everyone know that in Edinburgh, Scotland there were lots of chemtrails in the clear blue sky yesterday. I haven't seen this before. Are the powers that be trying to poison our porridge oats and haggis here? bastardos.

Stan

I don't know how angry I would feel if I saw it happening where I live.
Not sure if my anger would do me more damage than the chemtrails ...
Anger trials or Chem trials...
Maybe since no one can do a thing about it it's best to use one's imagination
and tell oneself they are spraying milk and honey.


What will happen is that everyone in the area will begin showing respiratory issues over the next 48 hours, or less. Allergic responses, etc.

Sinusitis, flu symptoms, colds, aches. Premature deaths, premature births, complications in birth and similar. Same for all the veterinary hospitals. More deaths in the hospitals. ones that are close to being reached, will tip over the edge. possibly staph infections in wounds, or hospital work (superbugs) etc. Allergy, skin, and dermal all flaring in the extreme.

All this will show up as a notable blip, or 'uptick' in the statistical average.

Mention this to people who own businesses and they will tell you that in the next 48 hours, the number of people with eye, intestinal, nose, lung, colonic, allergy, skin, dermal, etc issues..the number of them that stayed home or went home sick will have increased by a factor of 3 or more. ie, if they usually have everyone in at work, in a crew of 20, 3 might report in sick. From zero... to 3 people off sick.

That is the pattern that shows in the outer-world, from the spraying.

In my area, there had never been any spraying that i was aware of. Then I saw them in the skies and caught the images of the dumbbell sprayer among the chemtrails and the jets.

The reason I 'saw' them is that i had a sunroof on my old car, which I never opened. (sunroofs are just an extra hole to fall out of when you roll the car. You have also weakened the body of the car, so it does not work properly when you roll it - no one plans on rolling cars, but it happens all the time) it was a beautiful day..and I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beauty of the skies. and at a red light, waiting..I looked up, through the open sunroof. And I saw these things that looked like crop dusting trails. I knew what i was looking at. I sat up in my car, right at the light and looked around at everyone and kept pointing to the sky. No body noticed. I was about 5 minutes from home, so I shot off to the house and grabbed my camera, and sat in the yard, taking photos of them. I used some filters, so I could then compare light, and possibly glean more from that, in the future.

That is when the big, HUGE dumbbell sprayer went slowly by, down low..in a way reminiscent of how a cat displays itself to a dog on a chain, teasing it. I snapped photos, as the camera was in my hands. steady now.....and the images on the camera did NOT agree with what my eyes were telling me..so I assumed it was a holographic cover or dimensional shifting phenomena.


Back to the statistical story.

I immediately approached people, that very afternoon..people i know who owned businesses, and the one I was associated with.

i wanted a direct look at the stats, and I wanted to be on record for predicting it ahead of time.

I spoke to the heads of the factory floors and owners. I spoke on chemtrails and their bizarre appearance on the net, mentioning that I had seen them. I proposed that this above scenario might be the outcome, regarding coming health issues.

I got back to them in a week or so.

And it had indeed happened. And the health of the overall local population had altered in that way and level --as reported.

the weather was FINE, it was august, and HOT. The chemtrails had formed low in the sky, well below the height required to be ice particles. 5000 ft, maybe 10,000 ft. far too low for ice crystals in 35C (90F) ground temp weather to form, at that low altitude.

I did not automatically associate the dumbbell sprayer with the chemtrails. Nor the jets. I saw neither of them directly spraying.... but both were in the immediate area of the spraying.

As well, in this area, jets do not fly below 40,000 ft. period. No large airport for such large craft, at less than 150 miles distance from the city.

I myself had looked at the chemtrail phenomena, in 1998 and 1999, with my brother, when he and I were still sharing a house. I am not quite an illiterate man, but we both dismissed the things as people not being able to tell what a contrail was. Scope and size reference of photos from the skies are difficult to relate. this is how miniature photography happens. Perspective and size-distance relationships with myopic (single eye) cameras ---is next to impossible. with only the single input , no capacity for scale or distance is possible. Like this. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24796741@N05/sets/72157604247242338/) . I even tried to get trees and the corner of the house in the images to help with the perspective issue..but unless someone is holding a yardstick for the purpose of scaling in the chemtrails themselves and we can simultaneously see it from three different angles, no one will ever believe it from a simple photo.

You need to be sitting on the ground, in a plane, with camera, at the ready. then in one continual shot, get off the ground, NEVER allowing that camera (multiple synced cameras -3 or 4- are best, with one camera watching the others, in sync. and not one break or cut. then get up there, into the chemtrail area..and take images, rolling images, continual shots. with looks at the altimeter, etc, all the while, to maintain the reference and honesty of the shots. That is the only way anyone will ever believe, with regards to the attempt being a 'slam dunk' in the public or internet world.

THAT... with access to all four original image streams in original high quality...that would be considered 'proof.' Until then, no large mass of people is really ever going to be forcing themselves to believe it.

As for seeing them-and everyone else missing it, everyone I contacted or spoke to..having missed seeing them..this might relate to the capacity for the given person seeing them, to have 'other dimensional sight', or some basic form of psychic abilities.

Dimensional shifting or similar effects are known in the literature, concerning things in the skies... to sometimes look like a liquid sunlit mirror phenomena, which is what I saw on/in the area of the sky...that was supposedly a dumbbell sprayer. then i took a photo of it and the phto was of something else.

Consensus reality,and our ability in dreams, to have the thing or person or whatever, assume what we relate to such a shaping. Our minds must make sense of it. A few pages back in this thread (page 161), I relate a dream and how the symbology or my mind's shaping of that 'dream' (in my head when I woke up) was really future sight or premonition of events... that took place later in that day.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This leads to the potential, not reality... but on the table in some manner..as a far off possibility or a close possibility..depending on other evidence and considerations..for Stephen/Atticus to be telling the truth. That they are 'not ours'. That this might be a dimensional phenomena where the population is being slowly spiraled down. the population is just too hot. too many, too much 'out of control'. let some steam out of that puppy, let it simmer down.

now if this is a school or place of learning, and this requires controls, and our population is wild..then planned or timed spraying and similar events become the events that other situations can be enacted around. This could be part of this consensus reality and it's controls, it's borders. And if some of us are 'waking' then we can see it and others cannot. And more and more might begin to see through such dimensional layers than can, right now.

Or it could be the aspect of humans getting into space, via the works of Joseph farrell--basically...apparently crazy Nazis connected to 'skull and bones' in outer-space, time, and dimensions.

Every bit of his works is scientifically and factually sound. then we get to that group being involved with aliens, demons, dimensionals, or reptiles. Then this could all just be the races of this universe 'tying up' humans in their fears and issues (got you in a headlock, givin' you a nougie! haw haw! (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CTNBIZIMR0Y/SQmVYGTeOlI/AAAAAAAAAY4/hOeqOb0Vqww/s200/ThreeStooges.jpg)), in order to keep them under control so they don't commit serious bits of harm. keep a close eye on them. Like we play with our given young dog or cat, to help them run off that youthful steam.

This is also part of the idea and images of the Buddhist simultaneously laughing and crying at the same time. It's all a big joke, and it is all too serious.

I don't say I believe this. But it is inescapably on the table, from my personal experiences, which I try to look at dispassionately, without emotions clouding my attempts at reason.

Whether it is nefarious or not..I will NOT allow my emotions to dictate one condition or the other to me. I will continue to allow that hot needle of emotional inquiry* to spin in my flesh and I will not seek any immediate relief through a self lie dictated to me, by my body's emotional need for 'fight or flight' type 'first responses'. My body continues to ask for an answer so it can figure out of it needs to secure itself or not, and I continue to refuse my body's desires..for that is not an answer, it is a self lie created around too little an information package to make any true sense of.

I'm stuck with a mystery, but I have potential answers at this stage, nothing more.


*'Hot Needle of Inquiry' was the ship name of 'Speaker to Animals' personal space ship, in the Larry Niven 'Ringworld' series of sci-fi books. ('speaker to animals' was his name, as he was selected as an ambassador to the human worlds - they were an 8 foot tall vicious feline race)

[PurpleLama]

Just had another one of those miniature jet thingies fly past the house, again, here and now. It amazes me how quiet the really are. They are probably less than a quarter mile away before you can hear them here out in the country.

[modwiz]

Just had another one of those miniature jet thingies fly past the house, again, here and now. It amazes me how quiet the really are. They are probably less than a quarter mile away before you can hear them here out in the country.

That's what we get for being friends with Carmody. :p

[Carmody]

Just had another one of those miniature jet thingies fly past the house, again, here and now. It amazes me how quiet the really are. They are probably less than a quarter mile away before you can hear them here out in the country.

That's what we get for being friends with Carmody. :p


Seems to be the case, doesn't it. Purple and I had a simple PM exchange in the past 24-36 hours.

edit: Ii think he gets enough of his own, though.

It goes back to that thing about "Is it a real plane, or is it my mind shaping it, due to my internal package of pre-existing object identification? Is it something else altogether?" I am Remembering the mirror scene in Poltergeist. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMCOmn11zs) Ouch. (not evil, it is just the first thing that came to mind-dark humour)

[Carmody]

After reading Carmody's link to dumbell sprayers, and having seen several of the phenomena listed there, I am rethinking my thoughts around the subject of chemtrails. It never occurred to me before that it might not be humans from here who are doing this. We might not be hearing about the topic in the mainstream because the PTB, or TBiP, might not know know WTF it's all about.

It might be that we are temporarily being shielded from what's coming dow the pike so the maximum number of people have opportunity to wake up before this consciousness shift gets beyond what they can handle. I've known for a long time that the good guys have been keeping a holding pattern and working the timelines to keep the undesirable events from manifesting in the reality that might otherwise cut off exceptionally large numbers of people from being able to get what's going on.

I've never mentioned it here on avalon, and a lot of people will think I'm full of crap, but here's to DGAF:

back in 08, a few months before the elections, there was a shift where we shut down the timeline where baby bush got bumped off and ol' Dick stepped up and declared martial law, and I will say only a very sick person can imagine what horrors manifested along that line. When the worst happens, the higher ups step in and reset the game, and unless one is paying very close attention in a very particular way, one will be completely unaware that there was even the tiniest hiccup in this confluence of time and space we call reality. It happens all the time. Take it as you will and feel free to think ol' purplelama is *that* kind of crazy. :)

I've done the same myself. I find that the energy of that closed off timeline will 'come after you', in the form of the animal aspects of humans that are trapped in that dead end. the energy peters out, in it's 'fighting for life' deep emotional way

I was not doing this shut down by myself, I was experiencing it's end with a few others. I was saying, ok, obviously, we can't go there.....so we need to put a ripple in the pond right ..here....Kinda like a Zen temporal akido move.

[Calz]

After reading Carmody's link to dumbell sprayers, and having seen several of the phenomena listed there, I am rethinking my thoughts around the subject of chemtrails. It never occurred to me before that it might not be humans from here who are doing this. We might not be hearing about the topic in the mainstream because the PTB, or TBiP, might not know know WTF it's all about.

It might be that we are temporarily being shielded from what's coming dow the pike so the maximum number of people have opportunity to wake up before this consciousness shift gets beyond what they can handle. I've known for a long time that the good guys have been keeping a holding pattern and working the timelines to keep the undesirable events from manifesting in the reality that might otherwise cut off exceptionally large numbers of people from being able to get what's going on.

I've never mentioned it here on avalon, and a lot of people will think I'm full of crap, but here's to DGAF:

back in 08, a few months before the elections, there was a shift where we shut down the timeline where baby bush got bumped off and ol' Dick stepped up and declared martial law, and I will say only a very sick person can imagine what horrors manifested along that line. When the worst happens, the higher ups step in and reset the game, and unless one is paying very close attention in a very particular way, one will be completely unaware that there was even the tiniest hiccup in this confluence of time and space we call reality. It happens all the time. Take it as you will and feel free to think ol' purplelama is *that* kind of crazy. :)

I've done the same myself. I find that the energy of that closed off timeline will 'come after you', in the form of the animal aspects of humans that are trapped in that dead end. the energy peters out, in it's 'fighting for life' deep emotional way

I was not doing this shut down by myself, I was experiencing it's end with a few others. I was saying, ok, obviously, we can't go there.....so we need to put a ripple in the pond right ..here....Kinda like a Zen temporal akido move.

I have seen a photo of a "craft" laying chemtrails.

Don't remember where or how legit it was.

Regardless ... it seems clear that "others" are behind the puppet humans so there is implied direct or indirect linkage.

[Calz]

Time for a little music ... in the here and now.

Jimmy Page is a favorite of ulli so I expect I have the queen's approval on this one (uh ... find me someone who does *not* like Zep :doh: )

What is fun about this one is the orchestra backing up the band.

Watch their expressions and intensity. No doubt a few had no expectations to ever be jammin with Zep and are lovin it more than the band :music:


DO1Bh7rZrog

[eaglespirit]

"Kashmir"

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
Oh, oh.

Oh, I been flying... mama, there ain't no denyin'
I've been flying, ain't no denyin', no denyin'

All I see turns to brown, as the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand, as I scan this wasted land
Trying to find, trying to find where I've been.

Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace, like thoughts inside a dream
Heed the path that led me to that place, yellow desert stream
My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again
Sure as the dust that floats high in June, when movin' through Kashmir.

Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails, across the sea of years
With no provision but an open face, along the straits of fear
Ohh.

When I'm on, when I'm on my way, yeah
When I see, when I see the way, you stay-yeah

Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, when I'm down...
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, well I'm down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oooh, my baby, let me take you there

Let me take you there. Let me take you there

[ulli]

Came over to the laptop to get my Avalon fix and hey, someone left me a present! Thanks Calz.
Cheered me up.
Only thing is I can't watch it straight through without all those interruptions due to my bum Internet connection.

The Mars Saturn conjunction which is now supposedly beginning to fade has brought out my stoicism...
definitely not an easy time.
I feel for all those who were born with such a placing in their birth chart.
At least I got my fan belt fixed...it was squeaking.
Still feeling very low and heavy, as if the gravity had doubled these days.
Can hardly lift my elbow, yet Saturn is pushing me on, to do more work, whispering 'You'll regret it if you don't produce x,y, and z
during these last two weeks here in Barbados.
But all I've managed to do so far today is tidy up my work desk. Zero inspiration.
Pessimism about the future. Thinking about investors losing their nest eggs.
I dropped out so long ago I can't even remember what it's like standing in line in a bank.
But others are now faced with some tough choices.
Let's see if someone here can take my mind off these morbid thoughts....

[Calz]

Only thing is I can't watch it straight through without all those interruptions due to my bum Internet connection.



Took the family overseas for a month last summer with the best sat connected internet link possible for our laptop.

It sucked.

Big time.

I could not watch any vids the whole time. Was able to make a few text only posts and watch ... that was about it.

Trade offs abound for a simplified life in "paradise".

[eaglespirit]

Pessimism about the future. Thinking about investors losing their nest eggs.
I dropped out so long ago I can't even remember what it's like standing in line in a bank.
But others are now faced with some tough choices.
Let's see if someone here can take my mind off these morbid thoughts....

It will ALL flow as We grow...into a new garden of life, Ulli!
The monetary game is about to transform into something beautiful, where give and receive are simply a new matter of course!
Love will allow the helping hands held together to unify the energy in an unprecedented uplift...coming to THE theater in front of You : )

[Davidallany]

Let's see if someone here can take my mind off these morbid thoughts....

AoVS7xoqLWM

[Carmody]

Jimmy Page is a favorite of ulli so I expect I have the queen's approval on this one (uh ... find me someone who does *not* like Zep :doh: )


My grandmother. She's 94. She doesn't like Zep. :p

A bit of Schubert.... and she'd be happy.

[Carmody]

Since I gave up my favorite sidekick a few weeks back, I'm back to having true dreams, every day, every morning. Gah. No surprises in life.

Of course the messages are coded, so I need to use my secret 'Carmody mental mind map object and context identification' decoding ring. Thus it is difficult to figure out until the moment passes .....and THEN I recognize all the cues. I believe that we can all do this to one degree or another, this is why I keep bringing it up. To move to conscious steering of our future.

The more often I do this, the clearer it gets, the more real the shape of the memory ...of the future event. (yes I can say that, I just did)


Causality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_%28physics%29) just got tripped down the stairs and became a causality.... and is lying there broken, crying for it's mommy.

"Sorry, little human", the universe yelled over. "You'll have to go over that subject again."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_dynamical_triangulation

they seem to be getting warm.

It has sparked considerable interest as it appears to have a good semi-classical description. At large scales, it re-creates the familiar 4-dimensional spacetime, but it shows spacetime to be 2-d near the Planck scale,

So so close. The Planck limit is tied to the pairing of the 2d layer. ie, TWO 2d components, duality, within that aspect. Thus the capacity to have causality be flipped on it's head.

the mirror universe.

This is the only way such balance could be achieved, with that tiny bit of offset or asymmetry that Faraday and Maxwell manged to describe.

this is why such incredible levels of energy are tied up into such small spaces, if one part of the balance is disturbed.

[aranuk]

I hope this is ok to post here. My dreams lately have taken a slight turn. Well, I have started to talk in my sleep. I have never at all done this until about 6 months ago. Someone in the dream asks me something and I explain to them in the dream, but at the same time I am speaking I am also aware that I am dreaming. As I wake up I continue to finish the sentence I had began. This seems quite strange don't you think? Another similar thing that continues to happen in my dreams is that when I ask a question to anyone in my dream they NEVER answer. When they don't answer I remember that I am in a dream and think to myself "that was stupid, they NEVER answer". I am now thinking that this is all about questions and answers. The other people in the dream are "allowed" to ask questions and I am "allowed" to answer. But not the other way round. Anyone got an explanation here?

Stan

[aranuk]

What I meant to say in my last few lines above is. I AM allowed to ask questions but the people in the dream are not answering my questions, but they do ask me questions. Why would that be? The unconscious must have good reason to take this strategy I think.

Stan

[Carmody]

When I was a child, I decided to become intelligent.

I asked myself how.

And so it began.

I believe the best answer for a question... is one that begets another question.

Anything else is bound to become a closed system.

A hamster wheel for a life.

Hamster wheels may be safe, but they don't come from or go anywhere.

we must not put our children's minds into hamster wheels. Even if this does shut them up. Our peace of mind, or our fear of not being 'the great parent' to our child, can lead directly to the closing of their minds. And literally create their lack of intelligence. Remember, their minds are literally growing and forming.

When I was a child,and I'd ask a question, my father would tell me what he knew. When he ran out of knowing, he'd say so. Then he'd help me speculate, we would do it together. Then he'd tell me to do it on my own.

So, he'd take my "why, why, why" whining/curiosity and find a way to not shut me up, or lick my brain and stick it to the television..but to lick my brain and stick it to it's self.

[ulli]

Jimmy Page is a favorite of ulli so I expect I have the queen's approval on this one (uh ... find me someone who does *not* like Zep :doh: )


My grandmother. She's 94. She doesn't like Zep. :p

A bit of Schubert.... and she'd be happy.


the other day, while watching 'Being There' with Peter Sellers, posted by Dan,
I realized and had forgotten, that this movie begins with the Unfinished Symphony by Schubert.
I guess when one is raised in Germany that stuff is in the blood.
Led Zep or Schubert...depends on my mood.

[ulli]

When I was a child, I decided to become intelligent.

I asked myself how.

And so it began.

I believe the best answer for a question... is one that begets another question.

Anything else is bound to become a closed system.

A hamster wheel for a life.

Hamster wheels may be safe, but they don't come from or go anywhere.

we must not put our children's minds into hamster wheels. Even if this does shut them up. Our peace of mind, or our fear of not being 'the great parent' to our child, can lead directly to the closing of their minds. And literally create their lack of intelligence. Remember, their minds are literally growing and forming.

When I was a child,and I'd ask a question, my father would tell me what he knew. When he ran out of knowing, he'd say so. Then he'd help me speculate, we would do it together. Then he'd tell me to do it on my own.

So, he'd take my "why, why, why" whining/curiosity and find a way to not shut me up, or lick my brain and stick it to the television..but to lick my brain and stick it to it's self.

One of my favorite sayings used to be 'The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.'
I don't say that anymore about people, ever since I have learnt all about projections.
And it describes my overactive mind, not going anywhere, after years and years of reading and thinking.
The answer is in being Here, Now.

Found a quote from the Wingmakers, Neruda Interviews...I used to be totally into this stuff.


"It has to do with physics and the inherent nature of complex systems. Causal energy is eternal. It simply bounces from event to event. In some cases, it shapes the event; in others, it creates the event. Causal energy is the most potent force in the universe, and when it's redirected -- on a global scale -- it will rebound in unpredictable and innumerable ways."

and another:


Sarah: "You lost me. Are you saying that every decision in my life was already made before I was born?"

Dr. Neruda: "No. Every causal decision was."

Sarah: "So what's the difference between a causal decision and a regular decision?"

Dr. Neruda: "Think of how many decisions you make in a day. Wouldn't you agree that it's probably hundreds if not thousands every day? These are -- as you put it -- regular decisions. Causal decisions are defined by how integral they are to the substrate of the individual being. Are you receptive to new ideas? Are you able to synthesize opposing thoughts? Do you process information dominantly in a visual or numeric context? These are causal decisions that you define before being born, and they're encoded within the DNA that activates your decision matrix. External forces like parents, teachers, and friends only inform what you've already defined as the motion of your being."

[Mark]

Found a quote from the Wingmakers, Neruda Interviews...I used to be totally into this stuff.


Dr. Neruda: "Think of how many decisions you make in a day. Wouldn't you agree that it's probably hundreds if not thousands every day? These are -- as you put it -- regular decisions. Causal decisions are defined by how integral they are to the substrate of the individual being. Are you receptive to new ideas? Are you able to synthesize opposing thoughts? Do you process information dominantly in a visual or numeric context? These are causal decisions that you define before being born, and they're encoded within the DNA that activates your decision matrix. External forces like parents, teachers, and friends only inform what you've already defined as the motion of your being."

I really like that. Reminds me of the difference between Destiny and Fate that Sitchin explored in "The Lost Book of Enki", how Destinies refer to the greater orbits of planets, the movements of Stars through galaxies, galaxies through universes, etc. How the greater themes of a life are there when you come into it, but how the exact way to get there is up to you, your free will and, Fate. Fate is chosen, whether to go left or right at a particular street, whether to marry that guy or become a monk, but, in this view, your greater Destiny is already written and you get there no matter what path you take through a life.

Fits me right now, right here, as where I am is not where I was "supposed' to be. Not family, not the Ancestors, not the gods of my genetic cellular database, wanted me here. But my choice brought me here. Kind of feels like the end of that movie, "The Adjustment Bureau", when the couple just had to be together and the one angel or whatever they are showed them the book and they had embarked upon a new path because their fates had "changed", although their destinies still lay beyond ...

[9eagle9]

All I got to say is when I started walking and talking in my sleep ....is when all hell broke loose. In a good way, not a fire/brimstone way....(smile)

....they aren't supposed to answer. It suffices you know the right questions to ask to have the answers demonstrated for you when you finally get to that place where you're questing the right source. What a vision quest is about. You often have to go through abunch of dumb arsehole entites before you get to a true informational source. So don't judge the situation. It's not stupid. What is stupid is not asking the questions at all.

And... We often times do not get the answers because we arent' asking the right questions. And no answer is better than dumb answers. Asking good questions is as important as getting good information. Or at least reliable information.


I hope this is ok to post here. My dreams lately have taken a slight turn. Well, I have started to talk in my sleep. I have never at all done this until about 6 months ago. Someone in the dream asks me something and I explain to them in the dream, but at the same time I am speaking I am also aware that I am dreaming. As I wake up I continue to finish the sentence I had began. This seems quite strange don't you think? Another similar thing that continues to happen in my dreams is that when I ask a question to anyone in my dream they NEVER answer. When they don't answer I remember that I am in a dream and think to myself "that was stupid, they NEVER answer". I am now thinking that this is all about questions and answers. The other people in the dream are "allowed" to ask questions and I am "allowed" to answer. But not the other way round. Anyone got an explanation here?

Stan

[Carmody]

Just because I was thinking that this is what you get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MroGUV6MZg8) sometimes when you take the dumbwaiter of life instead of the elevator (when I heard this, that is what came to mind)..and you find yourself looking at a blank wall, with no buttons, and no display. Just waiting for the door to open, or something to be indicated.

We all do this, at times.

I'm in a moment where it is coming fast and strong. whether I want it to or not.



And that Ulli might think that these folks needed to fire their wardrobe consultants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_pRKSCDxo)

I mean, frilly Tudor undergarments might be charming and whatnot...but...

(but when they's start funkin' it, I'm rite there.....)

[ulli]

I hope this is ok to post here. My dreams lately have taken a slight turn. Well, I have started to talk in my sleep. I have never at all done this until about 6 months ago. Someone in the dream asks me something and I explain to them in the dream, but at the same time I am speaking I am also aware that I am dreaming. As I wake up I continue to finish the sentence I had began. This seems quite strange don't you think? Another similar thing that continues to happen in my dreams is that when I ask a question to anyone in my dream they NEVER answer. When they don't answer I remember that I am in a dream and think to myself "that was stupid, they NEVER answer". I am now thinking that this is all about questions and answers. The other people in the dream are "allowed" to ask questions and I am "allowed" to answer. But not the other way round. Anyone got an explanation here?

Stan

Interesting Stan, and quite unusual.
First thought that came to mind, "allowed" to answer...who is it who is giving the permission?
In my experience the dreamer is usually the higher self, or soul, and the people that appear in the dream are the personality aspects of the self.
The lower multiple selves...still fragmented.
So the question/answer thing when seen in that context makes sense:
the wiser being or higher self is the one that gives answers.
And that's how it should be.

[dan33]

Here and now have just given myself a delicious reiki bath.
More Peter Sellers Dan!! I want to get What's New Pussycat too now Ulli. Im sure he was a Pisces, am I correct Ulli. Great mimic. xxx



http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=DKomuOBw-24



Saludos, Lisab :)

[astrid]

Just came out from my first neurofeedback
Session since July . Interesting that the set up took
ages as all the equipment was going crazy when
he attached my brain to it . Mostly we were working on
PTSD issues and my panic and generally not feeling
safe in the world . This fast has really stripped bare all
the masks and coping mechanisms I was using to
hide behind, enabling me to finally get to core issues
that have been holding me back for so long and making
my life so narrow . So all good , great even .

But this morning was tough. I had to find the energy to
leave the house , drive my car, pick up a friend who also
training , and face 3D. In the end I made a green smoothie
very diluted and took some extra minerals. After 15 mins I was
good to go . But something I did notice when waiting
for the doc , was that my hearing was so incredibly
sensitive . Maybe related to that , last few days have had
my left ear blocking and unblocking, like you get when
you increase in elevation. Will make a note to self to take
headphones along in future to combat outside noise.

Planning lots of live foods green smoothies first week
back have a recipe for sprouted bread too that I want
to try , it's just sprouted grains that's it .

More later
A

[ulli]

Just because I was thinking that this is what you get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MroGUV6MZg8) sometimes when you take the dumbwaiter of life instead of the elevator (when I heard this, that is what came to mind)..and you find yourself looking at a blank wall, with no buttons, and no display. Just waiting for the door to open, or something to be indicated.

We all do this, at times.

I'm in a moment where it is coming fast and strong. whether I want it to or not.



And that Ulli might think that these folks needed to fire their wardrobe consultants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_pRKSCDxo)

I mean, frilly Tudor undergarments might be charming and whatnot...but...

(but when they's start funkin' it, I'm rite there.....)


Funny! Sooo Virgo of you to say that.

Day time Virgo is the nun
and night time Virgo is the funky town street walking hooker.

The switch happens at sunrise and sunset.

Day time Virgo:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/WarnerStyle70_1922.jpg/170px-WarnerStyle70_1922.jpg

Night time Virgo:
http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Fredericks/46451_main?$grid$

[Carmody]

this, also, today.

I nearly had my exit today.

A oversized dump truck, wholly on my side of the road, at +40mph (75kph), both of us doing +40mph).... in the middle of a blind corner. A 30-35mph (60kph) corner, we were both speeding.

Never changed my heartbeat, or even got a raise out of me.

I smiled and waved at him, as he was coming at me.

Just after that, it was the 'in yer face' tail at the local supermarket, probably due to that tycoon thread I started yesterday. That encounter was today's dream puzzle.

[dan33]

Has anyone knows something about the movie ANUNNAKI?

Thanks in advance. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EesLEZM41vs

[Carmody]

Just because I was thinking that this is what you get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MroGUV6MZg8) sometimes when you take the dumbwaiter of life instead of the elevator (when I heard this, that is what came to mind)..and you find yourself looking at a blank wall, with no buttons, and no display. Just waiting for the door to open, or something to be indicated.

We all do this, at times.

I'm in a moment where it is coming fast and strong. whether I want it to or not.



And that Ulli might think that these folks needed to fire their wardrobe consultants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_pRKSCDxo)

I mean, frilly Tudor undergarments might be charming and whatnot...but...

(but when they's start funkin' it, I'm rite there.....)


Funny! Sooo Virgo of you to say that.

Day time Virgo is the nun
and night time Virgo is the funky town street walking hooker.

The switch happens at sunrise and sunset.




A card I saw in a card store, many years ago, is still my favorite.

On one side it said

Heidi:

a picture of a girl, in the dress, with the pigtails, mountains, butterflies, etc.

then a line down the middle

and on the other side:

Heidi Ho

and there she was, the high heels, the black lace stockings, on the side of the street, in the red light district.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqUtV8XWSes

[ulli]

this, also, today.

I nearly had my exit today.

A oversized dump truck, wholly on my side of the road, at +40mph (75kph), both of us doing +40mph).... in the middle of a blind corner. A 30-35mph (60kph) corner, we were both speeding.

Never changed my heartbeat, or even got a raise out of me.

I smiled and waved at him, as he was coming at me.

Just after that, it was the 'in yer face' tail at the local supermarket, probably due to that tycoon thread I started yesterday. That encounter was today's dream puzzle.

Glad you're still around.
If it was your time to go it should have happened two weeks ago when you had all those square aspects.

\For a moment you had me wondering how many of us would now be posting channeled messages from Carmody,
and how I would have to negotiate with the moderators to allow this to take place in the Village's own thread Here and Now,
and not banish these posts to the 'channeled messages' thread.

[dan33]

this, also, today.

I nearly had my exit today.

A oversized dump truck, wholly on my side of the road, at +40mph (75kph), both of us doing +40mph).... in the middle of a blind corner. A 30-35mph (60kph) corner, we were both speeding.

Never changed my heartbeat, or even got a raise out of me.

I smiled and waved at him, as he was coming at me.

Just after that, it was the 'in yer face' tail at the local supermarket, probably due to that tycoon thread I started yesterday. That encounter was today's dream puzzle.

Glad you're still around.
If it was your time to go it should have happened two weeks ago when you had all those square aspects.

\For a moment you had me wondering how many of us would now be posting channeled messages from Carmody,
and how I would have to negotiate with the moderators to allow this to take place in the Village's own thread Here and Now,
and not banish these posts to the 'channeled messages' thread.

I'm listening.... and thinking, that's the music Carmody would like to... :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqUtV8XWSes

[ulli]

Just because I was thinking that this is what you get (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MroGUV6MZg8) sometimes when you take the dumbwaiter of life instead of the elevator (when I heard this, that is what came to mind)..and you find yourself looking at a blank wall, with no buttons, and no display. Just waiting for the door to open, or something to be indicated.

We all do this, at times.

I'm in a moment where it is coming fast and strong. whether I want it to or not.



And that Ulli might think that these folks needed to fire their wardrobe consultants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_pRKSCDxo)

I mean, frilly Tudor undergarments might be charming and whatnot...but...

(but when they's start funkin' it, I'm rite there.....)


Funny! Sooo Virgo of you to say that.

Day time Virgo is the nun
and night time Virgo is the funky town street walking hooker.

The switch happens at sunrise and sunset.




A card I saw in a card store, many years ago, is still my favorite.

On one side it said

Heidi:

a picture of a girl, in the dress, with the pigtails, mountains, butterflies, etc.

then a line down the middle

and on the other side:

Heidi Ho

and there she was, the high heels, the black lace stockings, on the side of the street, in the red light district.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqUtV8XWSes

With your Sun/Uranus conjunction you are an Aquarian Virgo.
My son has the sun in Aquarius, and like myself, a stellum in the 6th house, which is associated with Virgo.
So you and he share a similar energy pattern.
His art below, as well as his taste in music reflects this.
Here is his version of Alice in Wonderland.
So Carmodish.

http://somefield.com/posted/alice-falling.jpg

[Carmody]

this, also, today.

I nearly had my exit today.

A oversized dump truck, wholly on my side of the road, at +40mph (75kph), both of us doing +40mph).... in the middle of a blind corner. A 30-35mph (60kph) corner, we were both speeding.

Never changed my heartbeat, or even got a raise out of me.

I smiled and waved at him, as he was coming at me.

Just after that, it was the 'in yer face' tail at the local supermarket, probably due to that tycoon thread I started yesterday. That encounter was today's dream puzzle.

ok. just figured that out.

That was a Saturn recycle. Saturn repeats. This was the same, with a slight variation.

last time it was a transport truck, in the winter (it snowed today) and it jackknifed in front of us at 70mph (110km/h) and we were doing the same speed.

We had the truck turning sideways..and the trailer coming right at us.

And we were on a high bridge, no where to go, nowhere to hide. Hit the truck, drop in the deep icy gorge, or drop in the deep icy gorge when missing the truck. We said one thing.: ****!

The transport driver dropped a whole gear range and blew sparks out his exhaust stacks and managed to get it back under control.... by enough... to let us slip by. We were slammed up against the bridge guardrail.

Neither of us stopped, we just kept going.

Life in a Northern town.

mXqqw-gQqzo

the meaning of the song, from the comments:

it's about Nick Drake. The figure who leaves town without saying goodbye is Nick, who took his own life. The comparable song about John Lennon is Harrison's 'All Those Years Ago.'

My family and friends would have been devastated.

The driver was my best friend's older brother. Who was by then.... my Sister's husband.

[Guest]

Hi to everyone in the viilage my ,computer crashed wont be fixed until next week typinng on a phone....

Having a rock n roll time wlth our friend Mercury name that tune

Chiron have true north node in chiron I believe aries

Sun leo moon virgo asc leo venus leo mercury cancer mars cancer jupiter virgo cant remember the rest oh ya mid pt taurus will look it up this weekend & degrees even if only for my own sanity or in sanity....

I love horses

Taking comfort in the compassionate embrace of the village if only in my dreams wake up knowing I have visited with avalon eqaulizing loving synergy a blessing

Astterid such a beautiful inspiration

Nora

We are all related

[ulli]

Hi to everyone in the viilage my ,computer crashed wont be fixed until next week typinng on a phone....

Having a rock n roll time wlth our friend Mercury name that tune

Chiron have true north node in chiron I believe aries

Sun leo moon virgo asc leo venus leo mercury cancer mars cancer jupiter virgo cant remember the rest oh ya mid pt taurus will look it up this weekend & degrees even if only for my own sanity or in sanity....

I love horses

Taking comfort in the compassionate embrace of the village if only in my dreams wake up knowing I have visited with avalon eqaulizing loving synergy a blessing

Astterid such a beautiful inspiration

Nora

We are all related

If your moon in Virgo is near your Jupiter that would explain your love for horses.
Also having Jupiter in the first house...would give you a few Sagittarian traits, hence horses.

[Carmody]

I was thinking of listing my favorite tune from that time in my youth when I was nearly written off into a gorge, but I'd have to explain why. (I only found out the true depth of the why, a few years back) Which is a bit much, I can say. In researching it, I found it's pitch was changed downward. Which took it toward the original pitch, before the concert A-440hz change.

I started looking for pitch information regarding numbers and I came across this one, which I've been at before.

worth bookmarking.

http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm

BTW, Ulli, I have a leaning toward liking that body shape in women (your son's art), even though no one in my family has that.

[aranuk]

I hope this is ok to post here. My dreams lately have taken a slight turn. Well, I have started to talk in my sleep. I have never at all done this until about 6 months ago. Someone in the dream asks me something and I explain to them in the dream, but at the same time I am speaking I am also aware that I am dreaming. As I wake up I continue to finish the sentence I had began. This seems quite strange don't you think? Another similar thing that continues to happen in my dreams is that when I ask a question to anyone in my dream they NEVER answer. When they don't answer I remember that I am in a dream and think to myself "that was stupid, they NEVER answer". I am now thinking that this is all about questions and answers. The other people in the dream are "allowed" to ask questions and I am "allowed" to answer. But not the other way round. Anyone got an explanation here?

Stan

Interesting Stan, and quite unusual.
First thought that came to mind, "allowed" to answer...who is it who is giving the permission?
In my experience the dreamer is usually the higher self, or soul, and the people that appear in the dream are the personality aspects of the self.
The lower multiple selves...still fragmented.
So the question/answer thing when seen in that context makes sense:
the wiser being or higher self is the one that gives answers.
And that's how it should be.

Dearest Ulli thank you for your comments above. "Allowed" to answer? Maybe not. Perhaps they don't answer for a reason. Maybe I am not asking the right questions. Maybe they ONLY answer worthy questions, questions that have a worthy answer. On the other side of things here they don't ask me difficult questions. Sometimes, I prompt them to ask me questions.
Ulli as I have said to you before that I am an astrologer and my speciality is Horary Astrology. This is where people ask me a very important question and I draw a chart for the time and the place I understand the question. I could be at home in Edinburgh and I would draw the chart with Edinburgh as the birth of the question. If I am on holiday in Turkey I would use the co-ordinates for that place. So people asking me questions is a "Normal" situation for me. Me asking some person in my dream a question is NOT a normal thing for me to do as an Horary Astrologer. This would be a "Normal" thing for me to do as a human being in this world. Maybe I have ran out of questions in this life. Maybe we are only allowed to ask a certain amount of questions, who knows? I have read that we live for so many heart beats and then we die. I could go on and on here but I need sleep. No maybe only to dream perchance.

Stan

[thunder24]

travelled to mass. and back, to charlotte, then winston salem north carolina, and friday back to tennessee.

two days ago i wanted to die, and was mad at the world. next day i woke up in a good mood, now kinda blah.....weird weird monday to say the least.

60-70 degree weather in the mojuntans in november...i'm lovin that yo....

carmody, glad ulli doesn't have to channel you from the beyond.....!

peace

[Sierra]

Glad you're still around.
If it was your time to go it should have happened two weeks ago when you had all those square aspects.

\For a moment you had me wondering how many of us would now be posting channeled messages from Carmody,
and how I would have to negotiate with the moderators to allow this to take place in the Village's own thread Here and Now, and not banish these posts to the 'channeled messages' thread.

Snrt. Won't happen. This is Carmody's home alive or dead, and with him, I'm not too sure there is a difference.

Sierra :wave:

[Ellisa]

It's 22c here with a breeze, I'm enjoying the coolness of it and the washing is drying nicely on the line.

I am very relaxed and content today, because a week ago I lost my mobile phone. For two days or so I was devastated. How would I manage? What shall I do?

I still haven't found it- I think I had put it amongst a pile of newspapers which I threw out on rubbish day! But I don't miss it! or care where it is any more! Life is nice without its little burpy interruptions. Try as I might I could never ignore the SMS beeps.
However my family are non-plussed, annoyed and upset! Why, they say, do they have to use LANDLINE phones to talk to me instead of summoning me with an electronic beep? I like the fact I get to talk to them instead! However I think that I'll have to give in. They are already perplexed that I still buy film for my lovely old camera and use it! I can't have them thinking I'm a total Luddite!

[ulli]

Glad you're still around.
If it was your time to go it should have happened two weeks ago when you had all those square aspects.

\For a moment you had me wondering how many of us would now be posting channeled messages from Carmody,
and how I would have to negotiate with the moderators to allow this to take place in the Village's own thread Here and Now, and not banish these posts to the 'channeled messages' thread.

Snrt. Won't happen. This is Carmody's home alive or dead, and with him, I'm not too sure there is a difference.

Sierra :wave:

I know what you're up to, Sierra.
You are after another one of those 'funniest post of the page awards' again.
Let's see if there are any challengers, shall we?

[astrid]

Ok home safe, exhausted was a.big day in the world .
Went to stuper- market and got few supplies.
my organic food box doesnt come til next week so
filling some gaps. First go at raw smoothie was not so
great but add a banana and it's yum, so can for sure
do that. For dinner guest on sat night will do nori rolls,
easy yum and I can stay on track. .

Contacted my shamanic teachers in aus yesterday
she's just come back from the US furthering her
studies under one of my fav US practitioners
synchro there . I will start working with her soon
via phone with the aim to make working in the
group setting less tricky for me . My thinking
is of we develop a repore at least it will leasen the
new stimuli I have to process . As is the nature
of aspergers .
The main battle I have on my hands is the disconnect
between what my will wants to do and what my
emotional body is up for . I throw myself into
situations witn all the enthusiasm and good intention
but to only find that I'm stressing , I keep pushing
myself through the stress them i start to panic,
If I keep going it's melt down stage . So it's not for the
lack of will or trying . Just all the cellular memories
of trauma still yet to process . The good news is
now that I have stripped myself bare I can get to them.
I actually thought I had done so much of this already
but turns out it was just the surface stuff .
All pretty intense stuff , which is characteristic of how
I like to work . No half measures, deal with root
causes and keep big picture in mind . Anything else
is a total waste of time and energy .
At least when I'm done i will be of more use to the
greater good. Which is really the whole point .

Glad to see you are still with us Carmody
somehow I think your work here is far from
done .

Wi catch up on recent posts later
Nap time for me .

[ThePythonicCow]

That is when the big, HUGE dumbbell sprayer went slowly by,
So you've seen something like this:


http://www.handpen.com/Bio/ship.jpg
(from the page (http://www.handpen.com/Bio/chemtrails.htm) you linked a few days ago) ?

Wow!

That puts a whole different light on this.

[Carmody]

That is when the big, HUGE dumbbell sprayer went slowly by,
So you've seen something like this:


http://www.handpen.com/Bio/ship.jpg
(from the page (http://www.handpen.com/Bio/chemtrails.htm) you linked a few days ago) ?

Wow!

That puts a whole different light on this.

Absolutely.

Point.

Blank.

Range.

Waterboard me many a time, and I'll still keep to it, as it is the truth.

I stand by my life on that one.

I did not see *exactly* what they describe in the image, I saw what I reported, which is in the post.

Two giant spheres, so close together they seemed to nearly overlap, but shiny, flat, liquid silver reflective, bright like liquid light...but these ends (of the dumbbell) were round, messing my eyes up a bit, as if i was trying to focus on a chain link fence and my eyes each grabbed a different link set and felt pressured and off. I could not see any connective stem between them, nor any top bit spraying anything. There was 'something' there, though, not just two spheres.

I took three photos, overall, and they ended up looking like those double squares in their Images. Perhaps some form of light projection was involved.

I actually sent the images to Kerry at the camelot email address, back when I took them, before I was a member here.

take my email address in the member files, add ONE to the number...(an old joke)(Just in case, search for both addresses) and then..send that to Kerry so she can look for emails from that address. If she has those records, the email will come up. My full description from memory, on that exact day, and every worthwhile image. Images taken at the full resolution of the camera, which was 4.2Megapixel, all optical-no electronic zoom, a good quality canon camera and lens.

[ThePythonicCow]

Two giant spheres, so close together they seemed to nearly overlap, but shiny, flat, liquid silver reflective, bright like liquid light...but these ends (of the dumbbell) were round, messing my eyes up a bit,
But ... in any case ... definitely not something in Jane's All The World's Aircraft (http://jawa.janes.com/public/jawa/index.shtml) :p :rolleyes:

[astrid]

Learning, expanding, going back to school, higher learning... yep i can vouch for that.
Creative tension, yep, yep.
Thanks Tom...
8xF7P3PjET0

It's time to dream big peoples...

[Carmody]

Two giant spheres, so close together they seemed to nearly overlap, but shiny, flat, liquid silver reflective, bright like liquid light...but these ends (of the dumbbell) were round, messing my eyes up a bit,
But ... in any case ... definitely not something in Jane's All The World's Aircraft (http://jawa.janes.com/public/jawa/index.shtml) :p :rolleyes:


It may also be that if i can see daylight visions, of coming important/powerful events, then this sort of 'cover' system may simply not work on me, not in the same way that 'time and dimensions' work as a veil on other folks. EG, my friend who sees dead people everywhere. All the time. She takes the drugs they prescribe, just to try and fit in. I spoke about her, she's Celtic, carries the family bloodline, and has a tattoo related to that on her back, it is the family cross/symbol.

There is a whole other world of people out there, folks. They are everywhere. You just have to open your eyes and look. i still remember the time that the calendar was switching into a higher octave..and she and I met in this store she worked in..and as we closed distance.... a four foot high giant glass vase.....exploded. We were both born on ley lines.

[Carmody]

Finally found this tune after looking for it on the net, for a long time.

From Badawi

The album is called:

The Heretic Of Ether

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bAsC0O0fV-c/S7QSfmNlbjI/AAAAAAAAAAg/dgRzgwTyoeA/s320/Badawi%2B-%2BThe%2BHeretic%2Bof%2BEther.jpg

The song is called

Tired Soldiers.(and intro) (http://soundcloud.com/mkex/sets/intro-tired-soldiers/)

and...

http://splintersforthemasses.blogspot.com/2010/03/this-album-continues-to-blow-my-mind.html

[ThePythonicCow]

It may also be that if i can see daylight visions, of coming important/powerful events, then this sort of 'cover' system may simply not work on me, not in the same way that 'time and dimensions' work as a veil on other folks. EG, my friend who sees dead people everywhere.

Here's a hare (bovine?) brained conjecture for how this works.

Let's suppose that LaViolette's Model G (http://books.google.com/books?id=8HQJAvA1EqkC&lpg=PA31&ots=TaGMihPiWf&dq=laviolette%20ether%20%20x%20y%20model%20g&pg=PA31#v=onepage&q&f=false) is about right, and that subatomic particles and
the apparent force and energy fields acting on themare formed from the self-organizing vortices and the varying concentration gradientsof the underlying ether particles (etherons) that he calls X, Y and G etherons.

Then perhaps there are some more kinds of etherons, that form additional particles and fields, in the same physical space we live in.

If the etherons forming these additional particles and fields interacted somehow with the X, Y and G etherons of "our" universe, then there would be interactions between the matter formed by that other kind of matter with "our" matter. But the cause of the affects in "our" universe of those interactions could be so ghost like that most of us simply wouldn't notice them, or (perhaps more accurately) so inexplicable that most of us would refuse to notice them.

[Calz]

It may also be that if i can see daylight visions, of coming important/powerful events, then this sort of 'cover' system may simply not work on me, not in the same way that 'time and dimensions' work as a veil on other folks. EG, my friend who sees dead people everywhere.

Here's a hare (bovine?) brained conjecture for how this works.

Let's suppose that LaViolette's Model G (http://books.google.com/books?id=8HQJAvA1EqkC&lpg=PA31&ots=TaGMihPiWf&dq=laviolette%20ether%20%20x%20y%20model%20g&pg=PA31#v=onepage&q&f=false) is about right, and that subatomic particles and
the apparent force and energy fields acting on themare formed from the self-organizing vortices and the varying concentration gradientsof the underlying ether particles (etherons) that he calls X, Y and G etherons.

Then perhaps there are some more kinds of etherons, that form additional particles and fields, in the same physical space we live in.

If the etherons forming these additional particles and fields interacted somehow with the X, Y and G etherons of "our" universe, then there would be interactions between the matter formed by that other kind of matter with "our" matter. But the cause of the affects in "our" universe of those interactions could be so ghost like that most of us simply wouldn't notice them, or (perhaps more accurately) so inexplicable that most of us would refuse to notice them.


Oooops ... there they go again ....


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Good job Cow ... I always wondered how you got so dern smart???


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[ulli]

There is mention in this article of cloaking technologies and invisible craft.
http://ss459.fusionbot.com/cgi-bin/ss_query?keys=Invisibility+technology&sitenbr=156453303


It began with the Philadelphia Experiment, so they have had decades to develop these planes and trillions of dollars of tax payer monies.
I met Nick Cook who used to be editor of Jane's Weekly and authored the book 'The Hunt for Zero Point'. Whenever I want to research any of the latest stealth development I google it, together with Nick's name, as he is no disinfo agent.
The talk which I attended convinced me that these secret technologies exist.
A small event, less than twenty people attended, yet both guest speakers were highly knowledgeable. The other speaker there was Dr. Brian O'Leary.

[ulli]

Back to Village Life.
Clear, sunny skies, birdsong, distant lawn mower noise.
A newly arrived neighbor who made the big step from England to the Caribbean and bought a condominium behind us lost one of her cats.
She brought four of them here from England a month ago.
The cat was on her terrace when a lawn trimmer was turned on it freaked and ran into the bushes. She hasn't seen her cat in three days and is wandering around day and night calling her beloved Linu, a white Persian.
I really feel for her, but maybe the cat will still come back.
Maybe our resident eagles can help spot her.
I will visit her this morning, I think.

[Lisab]

Your poor neighbour. I bet she hasnt slept a wink I know I didnt when my cat went missing. Il pray for Linu's safe return.

[PurpleLama]

Okay, last night my dreams were more active than usual, which for me is saying a lot, but upon waking what I can clearly remember is immediately prior to my return I had a quick vignette of a dream where this lady in red lingerie struck a pose. Upon the first cigarette, coffee brewing time I open up here and now, go back to the last post I had seen before bed, and *the very next post* is ulli with her day/night virgo post. Made me laugh.

Back in '01, I had one of those magical moments with a close friend, in a place we all knew as The Special Place, and since then he doesn't remember the :ufo:, but I do: we imagined a powerful, magical, universal force that respects fun and everything being ok, it was the real point of wonder that all the saints and sages and holy men had come to tell, but the true heart of the mystery was fun, and we gave it a name, we called it Skippy. I kid you not, so I laughed again at this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35348-I-have-little-hope-for-humanity&p=362676&viewfull=1#post362676

[alienHunter]

Has anyone researched the case of Bill Lee in Pennsylvania. I tried to corroborate the story via newspapers, internet, etc regarding his death/murder and couldn't find anything.

[Lisab]

Just for fun the ABC to a good life....
Appreciate who you are
Be nice to everyone
Choose your road
Dodge negativity
Enivision your direction
Flaunt your fabulousness
Go where your soul lies
Have faith
Investigate life's mysteries
Jump
Keep on keeping on
Laugh lots
Make friends
Never litter
Observe landscape
Play Often
Quit worrying
Relax
Smell flowers
Take one step at a time
Unload excess baggage
Value yourself
Walk a mile in other's shoes
'Xpect the best
Yield to fun
Zone out occasionally!

[Carmody]

To me, the reality is that even the idea of god or a godhead is stuck in a loop where it does not know what the hell it is. So it might be best to relax and not be thinking anything is taken away, offered, withheld, given, or denied, or that it needs to be searched for. Whatever. All that is just the myriad colors of the rainbow of the shifting energy that allowed form to find a place to become/be the I AM. We are the bits of I AM, and we self recognize in the reflection of our separateness as differential.

And that's all she wrote.

Cut!

That's a wrap!

Then ...25 billion years of very silly editing in the local given time-space.

Whatever all that means.

[Lisab]

Like the prodigal kids trying to bring it all back to the table.

[PurpleLama]

Yep. Namaste, as they say.

[ulli]

I am at my new friend's condo now, and we are exchanging life stories.
I told her about Project Avalon, and that I announced her missing cat Linu on my thread.
So she told me she had just called the office of psychic Tony Stockwell in the UK
who has what is called the Avalon Project...to get help locating her missing cat.
How about that for a sync, then??

So far no cat, though. Some other strange things are happening...long story.

[PurpleLama]

May your local faery population see fit to guide dear Linu home.

[9eagle9]

Beckon EG my way she and I could have some very interesting conversations. Pick each other's brains...or rather DNA. Just talking about his stuff will cause DNA to activate.

it goes back to that uncomfortable statement that I make that people get so riled about. Not everyone was created equally. Or rather we are made differently, and that is dependant on how expressive our DNA is .what culture it came from and now it blended with other DNA from other cultures. And somehow we are all supposed to remain the 'same' in spite of this. People confusing Oneness with sameness. And yes I tried to deny this because when I found out what I was the bizarre quality of it was just...Well, what do I do with it? Eventually after a dozen years of people commenting on what I previously thought was some sort of game my mind was playing with me....I had to accept it. It was no longer an 'idea' it was actually expressing through me.Emotionally, physically, mentally... Can other people accept it. No. But they will preach acceptance to me.

Did anyone think its harder or somehow worse for them to accept than it was for me. Yes. As strange as it was people seem to think this is a very easy thing to accept and its not.

It was the hardest thing to ever wrap my mind around but...it had nothing to do with my mind. But When my own daughter notes that she doesn't think I'm human sometimes or rather....what we know humans to be . But we don't really know what humans means . There's just this collective form that looks rather similar but what is beneath the surface and what is expressing outwardly is different. We all have aspects of humanity that we can depend on to be ....human--- but we are not limited to that.

There have been people who have established that I'm not human the way we think humans 'should' be. Okay but the first thing they do is expect me to behave just like them. wooooooooowoooooooo...

I have this 'sociopath' in a book I'm writing. She's got teams of scientists surrounding her , psychciologists all chiding her for her 'behavior' which dismays and shocks them and even angers them everytime she acts out. She eventually asks them "Now that you've established I'm a socipath why do you expect me to behave any way other than what you have determined me to be."

People don't want to look at a whole other world of people out there. it doesn't fit in with the whole Oneness scheme of things. It is the weirdest thing that people all rush to be the same in Oneness and once there jostle each other to be more speical, more imporant, more different when if they'd just get out of the damned ONENESS trap they would be all those things on their own. And then just accept it.

Everyone being just like everyone else and nodding and bobbing in their heads and assuring each other they are just like everyone else....and that will create peace. We already have that everyone rushing about attempting to reassure themselves of that ...and its not true. We are OBVIOUSLY different. And 'being' the same didn't create peace it created havoc, BECAUSE WERE NOT. Only when we come to accept that humanity isn't some blanket reassuring form are we going to have the inner peace and acceptance neccessary for us to express it outwardly. To notice a obviated cultural difference now in another person, without judgement, is considered a crime now. Do we think that is accidental??!!!

I met once someone who was so like me it was PAINFUL, the same expression the same sort of DNA activation--oh was that painful to watch. Because they were in that paradigmn of :plain old human just like everyone else, and why is that so if I'm just like everyone else, why am I so conflicted, why why why.... and he was such a tormented soul. I so wanted to help him and feel like I failed him and finally the obvious was dropped on me. When you CAN accept WHO you are only then will you be able to help him. How would you expect him to embrace what he is, and accept it when you cannot. How are you going to get him to accept how he is expressing himself if you are not accepting how your essential nature clad in a human form is not expressing itself.

Wow it took me years to know that. All those years sorta riding that fence "I know that I'm really this but I'll just go on behaving as if I'm really that"--that illusionary we're all the same sort of place where there are no 'other' people and everyone is just the same but just not getting themselves. Finally I dropped it and it does create obviated conflict but its not inside of me anymore. "Other" world people I have discovered since then have no conflict with me....if they aren't in conflict over themselves. So its more a case of dropping the mask of the human form and expressing who we really are.

If I am with people who are quite similar to me and in the same acceptance that we are not quite what our physical forms tell us we are....there's no conflict. For people who can't accept it in themeslves...they are going to have a bug up their ass about me. But that's okay, that conflict is no longer inside me.

If I am in a place with a person who has come to understand this I may not be exploding vases (throwing forks maybe..lol) but....the synergy that is created is so powerful, just between two people. Imagine what would happen if dozens and dozens and hundreds did that?

Even well intentioned people want to break down 'other' people into terms they can understand but that means attempting to reframe them in sameness. When the persons' obviated expression refuses to go there for everyone's comfort level...conflict ensues.




Two giant spheres, so close together they seemed to nearly overlap, but shiny, flat, liquid silver reflective, bright like liquid light...but these ends (of the dumbbell) were round, messing my eyes up a bit,
But ... in any case ... definitely not something in Jane's All The World's Aircraft (http://jawa.janes.com/public/jawa/index.shtml) :p :rolleyes:


It may also be that if i can see daylight visions, of coming important/powerful events, then this sort of 'cover' system may simply not work on me, not in the same way that 'time and dimensions' work as a veil on other folks. EG, my friend who sees dead people everywhere. All the time. She takes the drugs they prescribe, just to try and fit in. I spoke about her, she's Celtic, carries the family bloodline, and has a tattoo related to that on her back, it is the family cross/symbol.

There is a whole other world of people out there, folks. They are everywhere. You just have to open your eyes and look. i still remember the time that the calendar was switching into a higher octave..and she and I met in this store she worked in..and as we closed distance.... a four foot high giant glass vase.....exploded. We were both born on ley lines.

[ulli]

Beckon EG my way she and I could have some very interesting conversations. Pick each other's brains...or rather DNA. Just talking about his stuff will cause DNA to activate.

it goes back to that uncomfortable statement that I make that people get so riled about. Not everyone was created equally. Or rather we are made differently, and that is dependant on how expressive our DNA is .what culture it came from and now it blended with other DNA from other cultures. And somehow we are all supposed to remain the 'same' in spite of this. People confusing Oneness with sameness. And yes I tried to deny this because when I found out what I was the bizarre quality of it was just...Well, what do I do with it? Eventually after a dozen years of people commenting on what I previously thought was some sort of game my mind was playing with me....I had to accept it. It was no longer an 'idea' it was actually expressing through me.Emotionally, physically, mentally... Can other people accept it. No. But they will preach acceptance to me.

Did anyone think its harder or somehow worse for them to accept than it was for me. Yes. As strange as it was people seem to think this is a very easy thing to accept and its not.

It was the hardest thing to ever wrap my mind around but...it had nothing to do with my mind. But When my own daughter notes that she doesn't think I'm human sometimes or rather....what we know humans to be . But we don't really know what humans means . There's just this collective form that looks rather similar but what is beneath the surface and what is expressing outwardly is different. We all have aspects of humanity that we can depend on to be ....human--- but we are not limited to that.

There have been people who have established that I'm not human the way we think humans 'should' be. Okay but the first thing they do is expect me to behave just like them. wooooooooowoooooooo...

I have this 'sociopath' in a book I'm writing. She's got teams of scientists surrounding her , psychciologists all chiding her for her 'behavior' which dismays and shocks them and even angers them everytime she acts out. She eventually asks them "Now that you've established I'm a socipath why do you expect me to behave any way other than what you have determined me to be."

People don't want to look at a whole other world of people out there. it doesn't fit in with the whole Oneness scheme of things. It is the weirdest thing that people all rush to be the same in Oneness and once there jostle each other to be more speical, more imporant, more different when if they'd just get out of the damned ONENESS trap they would be all those things on their own. And then just accept it.

Everyone being just like everyone else and nodding and bobbing in their heads and assuring each other they are just like everyone else....and that will create peace. We already have that everyone rushing about attempting to reassure themselves of that ...and its not true. We are OBVIOUSLY different. And 'being' the same didn't create peace it created havoc, BECAUSE WERE NOT. Only when we come to accept that humanity isn't some blanket reassuring form are we going to have the inner peace and acceptance neccessary for us to express it outwardly. To notice a obviated cultural difference now in another person, without judgement, is considered a crime now. Do we think that is accidental??!!!

I met once someone who was so like me it was PAINFUL, the same expression the same sort of DNA activation--oh was that painful to watch. Because they were in that paradigmn of :plain old human just like everyone else, and why is that so if I'm just like everyone else, why am I so conflicted, why why why.... and he was such a tormented soul. I so wanted to help him and feel like I failed him and finally the obvious was dropped on me. When you CAN accept WHO you are only then will you be able to help him. How would you expect him to embrace what he is, and accept it when you cannot. How are you going to get him to accept how he is expressing himself if you are not accepting how your essential nature clad in a human form is not expressing itself.

Wow it took me years to know that. All those years sorta riding that fence "I know that I'm really this but I'll just go on behaving as if I'm really that"--that illusionary we're all the same sort of place where there are no 'other' people and everyone is just the same but just not getting themselves. Finally I dropped it and it does create obviated conflict but its not inside of me anymore. "Other" world people I have discovered since then have no conflict with me....if they aren't in conflict over themselves. So its more a case of dropping the mask of the human form and expressing who we really are.

If I am with people who are quite similar to me and in the same acceptance that we are not quite what our physical forms tell us we are....there's no conflict. For people who can't accept it in themeslves...they are going to have a bug up their ass about me. But that's okay, that conflict is no longer inside me.

If I am in a place with a person who has come to understand this I may not be exploding vases (throwing forks maybe..lol) but....the synergy that is created is so powerful, just between two people. Imagine what would happen if dozens and dozens and hundreds did that?

Even well intentioned people want to break down 'other' people into terms they can understand but that means attempting to reframe them in sameness. When the persons' obviated expression refuses to go there for everyone's comfort level...conflict ensues.




Two giant spheres, so close together they seemed to nearly overlap, but shiny, flat, liquid silver reflective, bright like liquid light...but these ends (of the dumbbell) were round, messing my eyes up a bit,
But ... in any case ... definitely not something in Jane's All The World's Aircraft (http://jawa.janes.com/public/jawa/index.shtml) :p :rolleyes:


It may also be that if i can see daylight visions, of coming important/powerful events, then this sort of 'cover' system may simply not work on me, not in the same way that 'time and dimensions' work as a veil on other folks. EG, my friend who sees dead people everywhere. All the time. She takes the drugs they prescribe, just to try and fit in. I spoke about her, she's Celtic, carries the family bloodline, and has a tattoo related to that on her back, it is the family cross/symbol.

There is a whole other world of people out there, folks. They are everywhere. You just have to open your eyes and look. i still remember the time that the calendar was switching into a higher octave..and she and I met in this store she worked in..and as we closed distance.... a four foot high giant glass vase.....exploded. We were both born on ley lines.

That's what we have the village for....celebration of diversity.
I have never had a problem with you, in fact I wish you gave more Margarita parties in your launderette.
I like your flair for the absurd, and sense of humor.

One more thing, about having negative experiences with people. Sometimes it's not just that we don't live up to their expectations, but has more to do with the complexity of our personalities.
People get a certain idea after a couple of meetings, and then they see another side.

I can only speak for myself, and I know I signal two opposite messages which people have a problem with...and they are to do with my confidence (Leo Asc.) and shyness (Taurus moon) and reserve (Capricorn sun).
It has them confused.

[WhiteFeather]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/Locust777/ThanksgivingIndian.jpg

[Guest]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/Locust777/ThanksgivingIndian.jpg

Hey whitefeather with you

Cooking for a bunch of people who are the antithesis...

Have been looking through my very weirdness strange family his story her story the last few pages of here & now and many many events in my life have prompted me to do so & recently some information was dropped in my lap hmmm

Working on changing my agreements

Wishing everyone a beautiful day hope the little kitty finds her way home

Nora

We are all related

[ulli]

I only know Thanksgiving from Hollywood movies, and it seems that except for Christmas it is one of the only events that still brings family members together.
Not sure if it is for everyone's benefit or detriment.
It boils down to an individual's attitude, I suppose.
Let's hope for everyone's sake that many hatchets can be buried today.

I'm all by myself at the beach club right now, having done ten pool lengths.
It is overcast with a slight breeze. Waves breaking, pool pumps humming, buses motoring behind a high wall on Highway 1 the west coast road.
Wishing all the Villagers were here with me now.
I'd probably succumb to a fit of generosity and order everyone a drink.

[Calz]

Inspired by Carmody and Paul's scientific exchange ... here is another (more approachable) look at language and word usage.

George Carlin (and he actually behaves himself in this one) ...

SKftRlzh2RM

[Calz]

Have a couple cat sightings ... in the here and now.

Perhaps these can lead somewhere in the hunt for lost kitties???


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[thunder24]

To me, the reality is that even the idea of god or a godhead is stuck in a loop where it does not know what the hell it is. So it might be best to relax and not be thinking anything is taken away, offered, withheld, given, or denied, or that it needs to be searched for. Whatever. All that is just the myriad colors of the rainbow of the shifting energy that allowed form to find a place to become/be the I AM. We are the bits of I AM, and we self recognize in the reflection of our separateness as differential.

And that's all she wrote.

Cut!

That's a wrap!

Then ...25 billion years of very silly editing in the local given time-space.

Whatever all that means.

thanks yo, for some reason I believe this was meant for me....

peace

[ulli]

Have a couple cat sightings ... in the here and now.

Perhaps these can lead somewhere in the hunt for lost kitties???


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The kittie has been found, by a taxi driver. It was lying by the side of the road, terribly mauled, head injury, and there only remaining eye will now also be lost, unfortunately.
Currently on life support at the vets clinic. Still in critical condition.
Poor animal! Poor mother.
I did her chart for her, could see that she would not lose the cat, because that sort of a loss is always accompanied by major transits.
Anyway, lets all send healing to Linou.

[Daughter of Time]

Happy Thanksgiving to all you Americans out there.
May life give you (and all of us) much to be grateful for.
Cheers!

[Guest]

Have a couple cat sightings ... in the here and now.

Perhaps these can lead somewhere in the hunt for lost kitties???


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The kittie has been found, by a taxi driver. It was lying by the side of the road, terribly mauled, head injury, and there only remaining eye will now also be lost, unfortunately.
Currently on life support at the vets clinic. Still in critical condition.
Poor animal! Poor mother.
I did her chart for her, could see that she would not lose the cat, because that sort of a loss is always accompanied by major transits.
Anyway, lets all send healing to Linou.

Im so sorry about linou love prayers of healing to her & the one who takes care of her

Nora

We are all related

[astrid]

@ 9eagle9 , great last post thank you .
It occurred to me yesterday as I was ending my
21 day fast what the main purpose was .
If I was to move forward I had to drop the masks
I had carefully crafted under the guise of "survival" .
It's alll very clear now . Alll the personas we have to
help us fit in and function here some I built others
were constructed aroind me . For sure some of the
more intense work I have done yet . And although I'm
feeling raw and laid bare it's very empowering,
and there is for sure a sense of the ground being set
for all my missing parts to come bome .
So glad you are with us here , I have always loved
your posts .

[eaglespirit]

A BIG Thank You to ALL the Prior Posters...Great Stuff sharing here.

Well...Thanksgiving Day on Cape Cod...I am oh sooooooo grateful for the Love in front of me, family and friends.

Now....there is something rather interesting going on in this beautiful location that became over-commercialized(like so many other beautiful places)...this was a very, very, very special place to the Indians that lived here purely many centuries ago...I feel it so intensely everywhere I go now. I am doing my work the best I am able to bring a higher consciousness vibration everywhere I go and in everything I do and with everyone I meet. Something is 'brewing'...something is about to "pop", as it were. You know...the ol' "I'm here for a reason" matter that matters...I know now it is to help this place resonate higher and have already connected with a couple Folks 'consciously' doing the same..and it elevates my sense of purpose. You see...this place has an intense concentration of energy of people that are connected to the mass manipulation of society...most of them knowingly with generations of family ties tying it all together and directly influences most of what is wrong and needs to be righted. Something very strong and indigenous in Spirit is speaking to me...and I know many of You here are with me as I am with You on this...this upgrading of what we are by what we do, now. I will continue to share here on this...there is a feeling a Luminous Light of unprecedented proportion about to send a Higher Wave this way...the darker manipulated places like this are about to Shine, methinks!

[Cottage Rose]

In a synchronicity, the introduction to a book I began reading this morning described exactly what I spoke of in my last post about the unusual calmness. The words made me think of you and this thread, Ulli:

She sat on the hill looking over the sea and breathed in the world around her. Things moved in and out of her known reality and mingled in colors and vibrations. The clouds poured into the bay and out again, repeating in a second all the complex movements of the day. Impressions of the entire past and present of the valley flowed through her consciousness, the language of the trees as they spoke to each other, where the tribes had moved and sung their dances, the changing levels of the sea. She was in the now, while immersed in all the forces that had ever flowed through this speck of consciousness, and yet deep within her there was no movement. She was utterly still and attentive. It felt that there was no time, no space and yet every sense was exquisitely attuned to each subtle nuance of the physical place where she sat. She was within everything, and without, simultaneously, and flooded with such knowing and compassion of that perfection that there was nowhere else to be but now...

John James. The Great Field: Soul at Play in the Conscious Universe (p. 15). Kindle Edition.

[astrid]

OMG... just had my first solid meal in over three weeks.
Tested out some Nori rolls and Rice paper rolls that i want to make for a friend's
birthday dinner tomorrow night.
You have no idea how good things taste when you have not eaten for some time,
totally orgasmic. OMG

[ulli]

Hmmm, these last few posts have been really nurturing. Yum, yum.

Something worthwhile waking up for in the middle of the night.

Life is good. For now.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hey all you good people!

I drop in on this thread from time to time, just to check what is going on.

I'm a watcher and a listener. Don't post that much. At least not on this thread.

I've spoken my truth at times but it's got me into trouble, so I keep my big gob shut now.

Here and now?

Here in Oz, twilight, cicardas are so loud can't hear myself think. Oh, just now the birds are angry, obviously a renegade in their circle, lol...there is conflict on every level.

Have Lamb in the oven, beautiful smell throughout the house. A lovely meal on the way and a bath!

Haven't had a bath for years! The time is NOW!

Do something today or tonight, that you've never done for a long time.

Love to Everyone, Life is Wonderful!:bounce:
Lily de Cuir

[pickle]

13:50
Lunch.

Today - same as the last few weeks, a non-stop torrent of thoughts and feelings, they're important for some reason but can't quite see why.

Have booked next week off work - fancied a bucketful of time to think (edit: I mean, collect those pesky thinks), and get some fresh air. Talking of time, has anyone seen it? Seems like a figment of my imagination in the here and now.


Peace, love and light,

John

[Carmody]

The capacity to change or shift timelines..part of the answer involves carrying as much as possible of the self in the given moment of now.

Which is why we have to be careful to make sure that our memories don't become a repeat, and that we get a new answer and not a repeat of the past.

The reason we get a repeat of the past even when we are thinking of the new, is that the subconscious (the red shift, the fear memory response system-fear is part of it), as we like to call it, is not on the same page as the now, it is dragging the wrong frame of reference. it is dragging into the equation the memories of the response of the edifice or the body, into the new condition.

Our histories make us stable in the 'timeflow' of the ocean of this reality, but this keel of stability can also cause us to go into repeats or courses where the conscious state can see (future sight) that it does not want to go.

The moment of now and the past and the future.

The now, the red and the blue shift.

the now, the fear, and the love.

The now, and the hypnotics of red light and blue light, as used in programming methods. (the recent crap of the twilight film causing epileptic seizures in the theater. either it was sheer stupidity or it was a direct attempt to program a new timeline with that as a reality of some sort, via programming the population en-masse, to change the weight, shaping and direction of the keel)

It sounds trite, but the key to not carrying negative expression forward into the formation of this moment, lies in not dragging this history of ours into the moment of now, which will shape the expression of now via the fears of the past. (too much red color in a 'now mass' that should be more blue) (hey, balance. there's that purple thingie again... red and blue makes..a form of...violet)

We must replace the fear response system carried forward in the moment of now (an enlargement of our presence), we must replace this fear-forward negative mass influence (of the now moment) with a bundle of knowledge of this sort (clarity and mass of such in the moment of now), so the formation of the now changes the equation to come. Ye old 'be love' line is actually, very true, in the scientific analysis, as well--just a different name. love alone is not enough. We must be the complex expression of the flower of life in the moment of now, which as at it's core expression..contains the component of love.

Awareness changes presence -changes energetic carrier levels- changes potential to change the future, within the given 'now mass' of the individual.

Your capacity to shift the reality of the moment will be directly related to how much you carry in the moment, ie the size and scope of your awareness.

Single thoughts are a constriction of effectiveness. Focus is diffuse, if it is to be effective, for it carries as much as possible. Not less. Renaissance human is effective, the specialist in physics looses the whole thing as they have one strand of hair on the head of the thing, they have less, not more. They are a small rock stuck between the treads of the rolling wheel of life. The Renaissance human is in the vehicle proper, and is no longer stuck to the wheel.

Lack of awareness gives that potential away to someone else who might decide to play with it. It is within each human, each of us handles it differently. Knowing this is key. different genetics possess different abilities to express the moment of now, and the given channels.

The reality is that ADD and ADHD (or whatever they call it) is a good thing... it is the ability to hold and process more in the moment of now.. not less. It is an increase in our ability to hold more channels/data in the moment of now, thus increasing our presence in the timeline flow, thus our ability to steer the moment of now. It is by necessity and simple logic of this idea of increased capacity..it is by necessity...diffuse. focusing it is key. Drugs are entirely the wrong direction.

This requires that the branching of the mind in early life be diffuse, or by nature ..be that way. we hear stories about things done to children.

This complex modern world, properly handled.... is enabling this process..dramatically.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the replacement message. The original was far stronger. It was too sharp of a change, like a freak wave in the timeline. Easy does it now.... the original message explained specifics on the details of how and how to.

I remember. I return to being.


Typhon was the the beast with a thousand eyes. Does this make more sense now?

In one tiny corner of this analysis....Let us look at traditional (historical) circumcision -again.

Let your mind wander among the possibilities I speak of, which is only the door, not the way itself.

~~~~~~~~

And as I fully 'awaken', as they call it, as I drink my coffee..this complex knowing begins to fade..as this reflection of this dream, this rolling moment of now timeline takes over...and I fade into the single tiny point. the huge self or presence, is forced to fit into that tiny body.

I must remember.

So I write it down.

I mentioned to you folks a while back, some of you may remember, that I'm an enlightenment junkie, ..like a kid who can't stop playing with a revolving door.

[ulli]

Hey all you good people!

I drop in on this thread from time to time, just to check what is going on.

I'm a watcher and a listener. Don't post that much. At least not on this thread.

I've spoken my truth at times but it's got me into trouble, so I keep my big gob shut now.

Here and now?

Here in Oz, twilight, cicardas are so loud can't hear myself think. Oh, just now the birds are angry, obviously a renegade in their circle, lol...there is conflict on every level.

Have Lamb in the oven, beautiful smell throughout the house. A lovely meal on the way and a bath!

Haven't had a bath for years! The time is NOW!

Do something today or tonight, that you've never done for a long time.

Love to Everyone, Life is Wonderful!:bounce:
Lily de Cuir

Life is indeed wonderful if we can make it so. You seem to be doing a good job.
The climate where you live sounds like Costa Rica in the dry season,
which is about to start there, at least along the Pacific coastline.


I just did something to ruin my day. Or not. Decision time again.
I looked ahead in my chart and spotted that in November of 2012 I will have Saturn square my Mercury/Mars conjunction
which could impact my health quite severely, as that conjunction is in my 6th house.

So now I'm obsessing whether it is worth my while to keep up with these expensive trips to Barbados at all,
or just give up my apartment here now, and sell my car, and just come once a year and stay in a hotel.
With nothing selling in the shops I can't really afford it.
Not getting any younger.
Millions are faced with a similar dilemma and so I know I'm not alone.

[Carmody]

I'm already at the point again, where if I open too much..that no one I run into can hold my gaze. They turn away. I must hold a veil, so that they can relate.

the problem is that the 'evil' as we like to call them, do this in ego, not truth. The false presence, the fear as weapon against the truth of all -is within them. They exist in a false bubble. Which we hear about. This nearby dimension of darkness, where the lost souls reside. Where sometimes I go, and fetch them, or shift them out of going to, before they are lost within. (as above, so below, dimensional crossings, layering of ripples- timelines and dimensions, global and universal scaling.)

It is this darkness, in fear, in lack of full knowledge, that attempts to steer this reality.... at least with respect to our knowledge of such, within the scope of our 'normal waking self'.

7wkzPDfXH_g

I awake, One, The Core.

And it really is that simple and that complex. Holding perspective can be key. Perspective can become the path to the avenue of change...it is not change itself.

And now...on to a mundane and boring day where I have to do things which this one will find feels like being on some meaningless misdirected hamster wheel. I will become bored and pained to tears and the veil will increase in it's temptation, .... just to relieve the pressure of knowing in the presence of a world full of such unconsciousness.

Like it always does.

[ulli]

@ Carmody
Yes, I believe that, too.
Evil is nothing but ignorance.
But one has to come to terms with that...no one is really all-knowing, at least not all the time.
Time and space fragment absolute knowledge.
Only the knowledge of consequences can really free a person, and show them a direction for what to do next.
Which is why predicting the future means predicting the outcome of whatever someone has set in motion.

[modwiz]

The capacity to change or shift timelines..part of the answer involves carrying as much as possible of the self in the given moment of now.

Which is why we have to be careful to make sure that our memories don't become a repeat, and that we get a new answer and not a repeat of the past.

The reason we get a repeat of the past even when we are thinking of the new, is that the subconscious (the red shift, the fear memory response system-fear is part of it), as we like to call it, is not on the same page as the now, it is dragging the wrong frame of reference. it is dragging into the equation the memories of the response of the edifice or the body, into the new condition.

Our histories make us stable in the 'timeflow' of the ocean of this reality, but this keel of stability can also cause us to go into repeats or courses where the conscious state can see (future sight) that it does not want to go.

The moment of now and the past and the future.

The now, the red and the blue shift.

the now, the fear, and the love.

The now, and the hypnotics of red light and blue light, as used in programming methods. (the recent crap of the twilight film causing epileptic seizures in the theater. either it was sheer stupidity or it was a direct attempt to program a new timeline with that as a reality of some sort, via programming the population en-masse, to change the weight, shaping and direction of the keel)

It sounds trite, but the key to not carrying negative expression forward into the formation of this moment, lies in not dragging this history of ours into the moment of now, which will shape the expression of now via the fears of the past. (too much red color in a 'now mass' that should be more blue) (hey, balance. there's that purple thingie again... red and blue makes..a form of...violet)

We must replace the fear response system carried forward in the moment of now (an enlargement of our presence), we must replace this fear-forward negative mass influence (of the now moment) with a bundle of knowledge of this sort (clarity and mass of such in the moment of now), so the formation of the now changes the equation to come. Ye old 'be love' line is actually, very true, in the scientific analysis, as well--just a different name. love alone is not enough. We must be the complex expression of the flower of life in the moment of now, which as at it's core expression..contains the component of love.

Awareness changes presence -changes energetic carrier levels- changes potential to change the future, within the given 'now mass' of the individual.

Your capacity to shift the reality of the moment will be directly related to how much you carry in the moment, ie the size and scope of your awareness.

Single thoughts are a constriction of effectiveness. Focus is diffuse, if it is to be effective, for it carries as much as possible. Not less. Renaissance human is effective, the specialist in physics looses the whole thing as they have one strand of hair on the head of the thing, they have less, not more. They are a small rock stuck between the treads of the rolling wheel of life. The Renaissance human is in the vehicle proper, and is no longer stuck to the wheel.

Lack of awareness gives that potential away to someone else who might decide to play with it. It is within each human, each of us handles it differently. Knowing this is key. different genetics possess different abilities to express the moment of now, and the given channels.

The reality is that ADD and ADHD (or whatever they call it) is a good thing... it is the ability to hold and process more in the moment of now.. not less. It is an increase in our ability to hold more channels/data in the moment of now, thus increasing our presence in the timeline flow, thus our ability to steer the moment of now. It is by necessity and simple logic of this idea of increased capacity..it is by necessity...diffuse. focusing it is key. Drugs are entirely the wrong direction.

This requires that the branching of the mind in early life be diffuse, or by nature ..be that way. we hear stories about things done to children.

This complex modern world, properly handled.... is enabling this process..dramatically.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the replacement message. The original was far stronger. It was too sharp of a change, like a freak wave in the timeline. Easy does it now.... the original message explained specifics on the details of how and how to.

I remember. I return to being.


Typhon was the the beast with a thousand eyes. Does this make more sense now?

In one tiny corner of this analysis....Let us look at traditional (historical) circumcision -again.

Let your mind wander among the possibilities I speak of, which is only the door, not the way itself.

~~~~~~~~

And as I fully 'awaken', as they call it, as I drink my coffee..this complex knowing begins to fade..as this reflection of this dream, this rolling moment of now timeline takes over...and I fade into the single tiny point. the huge self or presence, is forced to fit into that tiny body.

I must remember.

So I write it down.

I mentioned to you folks a while back, some of you may remember, that I'm an enlightenment junkie, ..like a kid who can't stop playing with a revolving door.

Carmody, it is difficult to pick one of your many jewels of postings and call one special, but I will hazard to call this one special and know that some of it is about what I deem important. Only some though. People who I converse with often do not understand my stance on science because they know I use many of the 'fact points' they discover but have a very dismissive attitude towards their conclusions, especially in the field of medicine and health. As a bodyworker/massage therapist, health discussions often come up in those sessions where conversation becomes a part of the time together.

This is where your advice of diffuse thought and the lack of perspective that develops when narrowing focus too greatly, comes into the conversation. I use the 'fact points' of science as the dots they are. I connect them into an outline by connecting them. This is one level of diffuse 'vision'. The other level is where I then allow 'color' to fill in the outline. Like emotions, these 'colors' lend a feeling or aliveness to the outline. The outline being the 'aha' and the 'colored' in version being the 'AHA'.

Like others here, at Avalon and this thread in particular, your contributions are like a continuous stream of refreshing and life giving water. Thanks for flowing with us.

[9eagle9]

That is so much about what I view Psychism to be Ulli, the ability isn't in predicting the future but being able to translate another's personal energy in the now .If one is creating the future in the now, the now is what is looked at to determine the future. Then to change those conditions if they are willnig to set them down. Most of them are defensive in nature. All the conditions, scripts, contracts, those can be easily read and make a prediction from. Those contracts, conditions and scripts can be altered though in the now.

Strangely I've been a voracious reader of books my entire life, a speed reader even, devouring books like a glutton, anything in printed form digested . For people who are avid readers they eventually reach a point early in the book where they know the outcome of the book. I had never made the connection before about reading so much and the ability to read or rather translate the personal energy of people and predict from it but I suppose its a sort of natural transition.

[eaglespirit]

Good Thoughts, Sharing, Energy this morn Here and Nowers, Thank You!

Ulli...Love to You! On Your thoughts a couple of posts ago...maybe simplifying is just the right music now!

Oh so strong feelings that the NOW is 'becoming' a power unit of One...with immense implications of change acceleration for the ALL of it!

[WhiteFeather]

Enjoy Peeps, ~Im Tripping On Om Shanti~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOsASif5ME&feature=channel_video_title

[modwiz]

That is so much about what I view Psychism to be Ulli, the ability isn't in predicting the future but being able to translate another's personal energy in the now .If one is creating the future in the now, the now is what is looked at to determine the future. Then to change those conditions if they are willnig to set them down. Most of them are defensive in nature. All the conditions, scripts, contracts, those can be easily read and make a prediction from. Those contracts, conditions and scripts can be altered though in the now.

Strangely I've been a voracious reader of books my entire life, a speed reader even, devouring books like a glutton, anything in printed form digested . For people who are avid readers they eventually reach a point early in the book where they know the outcome of the book. I had never made the connection before about reading so much and the ability to read or rather translate the personal energy of people and predict from it but I suppose its a sort of natural transition.

You too, 9eagle9. You are another gift here. There is a lot of heart present at Avalon. Some good analytical minds as well. You and Carmody have a synthesis of a few energy centers going coupled with the ability to put those thoughts into words and not be stingy with the verbiage either. That you each have very different 'flavors' makes for very rich nourishment.

The sense of humor might be the secret ingredient that makes one always want for some more. Humor is the twinkle in the eye.

Ya gotta have that! :yes4:

Today I am acknowledging my own form of thanks giving.

[Carmody]

Yes, 7 billion vortexes of individualized energy, thus 7 billion trails of experiences choices... decisions.

Our commonality is our gift of consensus space-time, our commonality can be grabbed and controlled, if this 'created environment' (created by us sharing energy) is lived in a state of perpetual separation and unconsciousness.


Scope of awareness increases ability for personal control.

thus the complexity of this issue....

our current foil (http://www.sirbacon.org/graphics/largeeye.gif) ....in our current stage of awakening.

One could say we've been given a form or shape to learn that within. something that has an autopilot feature that is extant until the rider within sits up and takes control of the given personal multi-faceted wheel.

Due to the number of us here, it is only logical that many would be at different stages of the understanding.

Which is why I can say some things... and that will not be too bad, but some other messages are far too dangerous (for they can travel far) For ill thought and ill cast...it may have the capacity to fire the fears of the unconscious..for the human who is on the phone right now trying to get a new TV for free... they are practically in tears...as they were drunk last night and their team lost...and they threw a beer bottle and broke it. If they hear a universal message that is phrased wrong, then they can do something with it. In ignorance. Not good.

Recall I said that I started learning to cast messages through the unconscious backwater of the human mind....and have those messages cross and rebound the planet..I started when I was 13.

Many of us do this in various ways, this is not unique. Knowing that it can be done and is done, is key. At the age of 13 I found a dial I could move, sticking out on the side of humanity. I was wise enough to gently touch it, first..and then wait for the reflection, so I could form an understanding of what was going on.

The question is whether 'the foil' is truly a parasite or is merely necessary. either, or both. All can be true.

The question becomes irrelevant if one awakens.

[onawah]

This thread is so different from what I've ever seen on PA, and I've been here a long time.
Sometimes it's so mundane, it feels like it would only be of interest to me if I were a faithful poster and had built up a "relationship" with the other regulars on this thread.
I've never been good at "chat", though, so that's just me.
(I put "relationship" in quotes to refer to an online relationship, ie, with people you have not, for the most part, met in the flesh or even talked to on the phone--I think we need a new word for that kind of "virtual relationship".)
Other times it's a bit over my head, though I enjoy reading it anyway on the chance I might learn something.
I think I have a tendency to overlook the value of that simply because, being something of an involuntary recluse, what I crave more is relationships with people I can interact with fully, in the "real" world.
And I spend far too much time on this computer and not enough out in Nature, my first love.
Something intrigues me, though, and keeps me coming back to this thread now and then, to see what I can see, and just because it's refreshing to rub elbows, virtually speaking, with more intelligent souls, even though I'm not always sure I understand the subject matter being discussed. (Helvitica's thread is another.)
In the recent post from Carmody, I saw a point (though not the main one being made) that I could add to and help clarify somewhat, which has to do with color.
Carmody wrote:
It sounds trite, but the key to not carrying negative expression forward into the formation of this moment, lies in not dragging this history of ours into the moment of now, which will shape the expression of now via the fears of the past. (too much red color in a 'now mass' that should be more blue) (hey, balance. there's that purple thingie again... red and blue makes..a form of...violet)
This is just a technical point, but one that has value if you are interested in color and psychology, and it's a mistake that many people make.
You might appreciate realizing the difference.
I have made a study of color, beginning with a book called "Nuclear Evolution" by Dr. Christopher Hills,
http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Evolution-Discovery-Rainbow-Body/dp/0916438090
and a few other books on color, what they signify in the human aura, etc.
The common mistake I mentioned is regarding purple, which is not the same as violet. On the "official" spectrum of colors as they appear in the rainbow and in the chakras, for example, there are red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet.
There are many different color theories, but according to Dr. Hills, purple, the result of mixing blue and red, the color of royalty, in psychological terms, can signify a personality that is haughty and self-absorbed. (I'm afraid I don't recall the positive attributes--magnanimity, most likely.)
Violet in it's negative manifestation signifies someone who can be obsessed with erotica and other more (comparatively) trivial pursuits, while in it's positive form, indicates the individual is manifesting from the creative imagination, the purview of the crown chakra.

Imaginative perception of the cosmic order
or the seeking of hidden powers
http://imva.info/index.php/2010/06/color-psychology/
Carmody, enlightenment junkie that you are, you would surely love reading the late Dr. Hills work!

I have been reading the Law of One, books 1, 2 & 3. ( Not Dr. Hills' work, but channeled information, which David Wilcock has been associated with, though the main body of work was completed before his time.)
What I'm noticing at this juncture is that these books, which are quite seminal in alternative spiritual circles, dwell largely on the distinction of the paths of Service to Self as opposed to Service to Others.
That being, presumably, the most important distinction in our spiritual reality.
Whereas in most discussions on spirituality, the issue of living in the NOW seems to be the most important distinction.
In Dr. Hills' works, the quality of life lived in the NOW seems to change, depending on what level of consciousness one is manifesting from the most, or, to put it in different terms, from which chakra one is primarily operating from.
It seems the higher one goes into the higher centers, the more the characteristics of consciousness change, and the more encompassing the reality of NOW becomes.
So how I experience the NOW may be different from how you experience it, as we are all unique.

I realize I am all over the place with these comments, but just thought I would put my 2 cents into this part of the Here and Now discussion.
Namaste




It sounds trite, but the key to not carrying negative expression forward into the formation of this moment, lies in not dragging this history of ours into the moment of now, which will shape the expression of now via the fears of the past. (too much red color in a 'now mass' that should be more blue) (hey, balance. there's that purple thingie again... red and blue makes..a form of...violet)

.

[ulli]

@ Onawah
Thanks for being 'all over the place', as you call it.
In this thread of millions of feelings and thoughts squeezing into one 'here and now'
it is impossible to give and get feedback to every last sparkle, and that's ok.

Whatever the Now moment then throws up is perfectly acceptable.
Maybe that is why this tread has survived for so long...
any real Now moment can never be coerced into becoming anything else....
so judgement here is suspended.

That creates a different type of suspense...
the judgement being which part(icle) of the Now will receive a response?

I had some flickers popping up to respond to your mentioning David Wilcock, and the service to others (STO) versus service to self (STS)
but then thought, no.... been there, done that...
It will always have to be a mixture. It's ALL about service, period.
The self is necessarily included just like anyone else, depends on what emerges in the Now;
or the 'emergency'.

Has it occurred to you that the computer is also part of nature?
It is the fruit of the tree of human interaction.
Nature at it's highest expression.
Whatever nurtures the mind will have a therapeutic effect on the whole being
just as much as looking at a sunset by the seaside.
Unless one holds a belief that contradicts that statement, of course. ;)

[astrid]

Carmody, food for the soul right there ,
my favorite post of yours so far .
The energy in here today is exceptionally refined,
and being so open right now it's like
bathing in a mountain spring.

4.44 am woke up feeling a wave of love wash over me
kind of figured it was from here.

This thread makes me want to push higher and higher .

[dan33]

Hi everyone.

I would like to share this video, sent by Nanoo. It gave me goosebumps.
Think all of you that this is a commercial break. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tZ46Ot4_lLo

[onawah]

Thanks Ulli.
It is interesting "fishing" on this thread for responses, and more unpredictable than most others.
The books about the Law of One, as you probably know, but if not, and if you haven't read them-- are not by Wilcock, though he has expounded upon the material quite a lot--but by a team of people working together over a number of years who, I believe, had a much deeper understanding of the material than DW does.
(DW also claims to channel the entity Ra, who was the source of the Law of One books, but the feeling I get from his info is quite different, so I am not convinced it's Ra he's channeling.

One reason why I find the books so interesting is that they clearly describe the difference between those on the two paths.
True, there is only one Self, but those on the path of service to self often do not recognize that home truth until they have done quite a lot of damage.
To the extent that we see now on our own planet, thanks to TPTW.
It can help to recognize the signs and be aware that such people can be great deceivers, very wise, and very charming, though also quite heartless, pathetic and shallow in that they miss out on so much that is beautiful and of true value in life.
Though when they reach the point of "conversion", the change can also be very dramatic. Such as the case of Dannion Brinkely.
They publish the work here for free:
http://www.lawofone.info/

Yes, the computer is a great tool, no question. It is just the form that it comes in, with all the EMFs that it radiates, that I have a problem with.
Someday soon, hopefully, our technology will be much more biologically friendly.


@
I had some flickers popping up to respond to your mentioning David Wilcock, and the service to others (STO) versus service to self (STS)
but then thought, no.... been there, done that...
It will always have to be a mixture. It's ALL about service, period.
The self is necessarily included just like anyone else, depends on what emerges in the Now;
or the 'emergency'.

Has it occurred to you that the computer is also part of nature?
It is the fruit of the tree of human interaction.
Nature at it's highest expression.
Whatever nurtures the mind will have a therapeutic effect on the whole being
just as much as looking at a sunset by the seaside.
Unless one holds a belief that contradicts that statement, of course. ;)

[ulli]

Thanks Ulli.
It is interesting "fishing" on this thread for responses, and more unpredictable than most others.


Yes, the computer is a great tool, no question. It is just the form that it comes in, with all the EMFs that it radiates, that I have a problem with.
Someday soon, hopefully, our technology will be much more biologically friendly.

;)

Here is an unpredictable ulli response for you, Onawah.
When that day comes where our technology is more biologically friendly don't you think we also might have become even more sensitive? Or would we have developed tin foil skin?
Maybe the ratio of being threatened by external events would always remain constant.....
Just a thought.

[onawah]

I can only speak for myself, Ulli.
I think a normally healthy person is not as affected as I am by EMFs.
Since my NDE, I am much more susceptible to toxic frequencies.
My energy field was damaged, though I have been working on it with crystals, diet, meditation, time in Nature, etc.

[Cottage Rose]

Are there any "mineral" people here who could inform me about the qualities of sandstone? Last night I viewed a Lawrence Gardner video about the ancient history and properties of monotomic gold including David Hudson's discoveries in Arizona (which I was already familiar with). Somewhere within this information discussing super conductors, there was a mention of sandstone.

The 1940's farmhouse I have been living in for 20 years was built by the original owner out of indigenous sandstone taken from the ground here dug to create the stock pond. As an unrelated aside, the well water here is extremely alkaline. The outer walls of the little house are still flat and near perfectly straight even after all these years.

Many of these large sandstone rocks have a shiny glaze as if subjected to very hot temperatures at some time. There are some unusual elements in the chimney design that have led me to wonder if the builder was a freemason.

I spent time in this farmhouse in the late 1960's and always remembered the frequency within it. I never wanted to leave when I visited. It became my home in 1990. I had dreams prior to the 60's about living here. Between these times, I have been strangely attracted to similar sandstone structures in other places whenever I saw them.

Would a sandstone dwelling have any particular frequency within, if anyone knows?

[1derer]

Thanks WhiteFeather, judging by your avatar, I thought you and others might appreciate this mantra and video.....

Peace Brother, for we all flow in the same rivers and winds

The beauty and fire of spirit, cannot ever be doused!:clap2:

Namaste...

rq-1bxJc7F0

[1derer]

Re: Homeless boy steals Talent Show vid..

Little Baby found his way after so much difficulty, this is an inspiring example of individual strength and I thank those that brought this to light.

Thanks for sharing

[Guest]

I can only speak for myself, Ulli.
I think a normally healthy person is not as affected as I am by EMFs.
Since my NDE, I am much more susceptible to toxic frequencies.
My energy field was damaged, though I have been working on it with crystals, diet, meditation, time in Nature, etc.

Hi onawah,

Im very sensitive to environmental stimuli & synthetic toxic substances -have been my whole life. I live in a rural area and drive into the city about every 2 weeks to pick up supplies. Sometimes I lie in a completely darkened room or go out into nature. Hope ulli is right & a very vibrationally friendly technologies will be created -i figure if it's not good for the earth or her energies then it's probably not good for humanbeings either.
The village has a very soulful human level & very high conscousness -inward expansive. reference to your previos above posts.

Goodnight and have good dreams

Nora

We are all related

[ulli]

Thanks WhiteFeather, judging by your avatar, I thought you and others might appreciate this mantra and video.....

Peace Brother, for we all flow in the same rivers and winds

The beauty and fire of spirit, cannot ever be doused!:clap2:

Namaste...

rq-1bxJc7F0

Thank you. I needed to connect with Spirit.
It worked.

[ulli]

I can only speak for myself, Ulli.
I think a normally healthy person is not as affected as I am by EMFs.
Since my NDE, I am much more susceptible to toxic frequencies.
My energy field was damaged, though I have been working on it with crystals, diet, meditation, time in Nature, etc.

Once we discover higher realities the 3D world loses it's appeal and the longing for home kicks in.
I have been through this in an uncountable number of phases throughout my life.

Whenever I connect to the Here and Now, which sometimes is easier said than done,
I get a fresh glimpse of the reason why I'm still here.
It gives me a sense of mission and I'm off, like a bloodhound after a fresh scent.

When that happens spirit infuses me with strength and health and no earthly vibes can bring me down.
When the mission is over there is an anti climax and I'm back to asking myself wtf am I doing here?
So remembering the pattern is rhythmic, I pull within and recharge my batteries.
Those are the times I'm most sensitive...
as Astrid said earlier...that's when this community is of such help.

Cottage Rose, I don't know about sandstone...I wonder if PurpleLama can help you....

[Ol' Roy]

I have seen this video before(homeless boy) on Project Avalon. It brings tears to my eyes. Does anyone know what happened to him in the competition. And what is his future now?

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi All,

Check this out. Great Ozzy kid, called Chooka. I LOVE him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uE1xsuEywQ

Love Lily:music:
x

[Calz]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

[ulli]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Funny, Calz.
And did you notice how well-written that sign is, the one in the second photo?
If he had done it himself he should get a job as a sign writer.
Hey, maybe even market it, make a thousand, have them all laminated and sell them for a couple of dollars each to all the homeless beggars.
There would be a lucrative market, dontcha think?

[Lord Sidious]

Uncle Sidious is not amused.
I just spent a few hours messing with the computer for no outcome.
I bought one of these kits.
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NzA0Mzcw&lan=us
Thinking I would install that tonite.
Well, no, you won't do that at all.
What a pile of crap.
For one thing, they have non standard fan sizes, but they don't tell you that, do they?
Standard fans size is 80mm, 90mm, 120mm.
These have 110mm, so you can't mount them to the mountings in the computer box like they say.
Secondly, you can't improvise as the power lead from the supplied fans are far too short to allow you to place the damn thing anywhere else.
So, I put the aircooler back on, boot it up and find that seeing I have removed the cpu fan, the bios has reset my RAID 0 install and it can't see it now.
Windows is running off that RAID install, so no boot.
Anyone interested in viewing a potential nuclear explosion come down to PLE Computers in Wangera, Perth on Monday morning when I go get a refund.
Lightsabre or no, this little communist is going back to the shop.

[ulli]

Uncle Sidious is not amused.
I just spent a few hours messing with the computer for no outcome.
I bought one of these kits.
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NzA0Mzcw&lan=us
Thinking I would install that tonite.
Well, no, you won't do that at all.
What a pile of crap.
For one thing, they have non standard fan sizes, but they don't tell you that, do they?
Standard fans size is 80mm, 90mm, 120mm.
These have 110mm, so you can't mount them to the mountings in the computer box like they say.
Secondly, you can't improvise as the power lead from the supplied fans are far too short to allow you to place the damn thing anywhere else.
So, I put the aircooler back on, boot it up and find that seeing I have removed the cpu fan, the bios has reset my RAID 0 install and it can't see it now.
Windows is running off that RAID install, so no boot.
Anyone interested in viewing a potential nuclear explosion come down to PLE Computers in Wangera, Perth on Monday morning when I go get a refund.
Lightsabre or no, this little communist is going back to the shop.

Your rant is safe with me.
You have my sympathy.
How about a herbal tea?
On the guest settee?

[modwiz]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11559&d=1322303739

My hair sure has grown since then.

[Lord Sidious]

Uncle Sidious is not amused.
I just spent a few hours messing with the computer for no outcome.
I bought one of these kits.
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NzA0Mzcw&lan=us
Thinking I would install that tonite.
Well, no, you won't do that at all.
What a pile of crap.
For one thing, they have non standard fan sizes, but they don't tell you that, do they?
Standard fans size is 80mm, 90mm, 120mm.
These have 110mm, so you can't mount them to the mountings in the computer box like they say.
Secondly, you can't improvise as the power lead from the supplied fans are far too short to allow you to place the damn thing anywhere else.
So, I put the aircooler back on, boot it up and find that seeing I have removed the cpu fan, the bios has reset my RAID 0 install and it can't see it now.
Windows is running off that RAID install, so no boot.
Anyone interested in viewing a potential nuclear explosion come down to PLE Computers in Wangera, Perth on Monday morning when I go get a refund.
Lightsabre or no, this little communist is going back to the shop.

Your rant is safe with me.
You have my sympathy.
How about a herbal tea?
On the guest settee?

I have my dilmah extra strong going right now.

[Carmody]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11559&d=1322303739

My hair sure has grown since then.

That's the thing about good steel. It's almost hypnotic. For almost any man. If they see a sword on the wall.... they want to touch it, to hold it, to move it, to move with it.

Then again....Maybe it's just me....

Thus the deep familiarity of the harry potter wand selection bit. however, when they move those bits of wood around in the films..the illusion and the connection fades, IMO.The actors must try and be 'one' with the wand, and thus it would become more believable.

Like good steel, the wand or staff... is the extension of the person, it is not the person. If the two are not fundamentally connected, then it will fail.

edit:

To rephrase it a bit....I own neither gun, nor sword, but I respect their history (from prior times) that lies within me.

[ulli]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11559&d=1322303739

My hair sure has grown since then.

That's the thing about good steel. It's almost hypnotic. For almost any man. If they see a sword on the wall.... they want to touch it, to hold it, to move it, to move with it.

Then again....Maybe it's just me....

Thus the deep familiarity of the harry potter wand selection bit. however, when they move those bits of wood around in the films..the illusion and the connection fades, IMO.The actors must try and be 'one' with the wand, and thus it would become more believable.

Like good steel, the wand or staff... is the extension of the person, it is not the person. If the two are not fundamentally connected, then it will fail.

edit:

To rephrase it a bit....I own neither gun, nor sword, but I respect their history (from prior times) that lies within me.

What you say about wands here is true for crystals, too. In my opinion.
I noticed how many Avalonians project intelligence at stones and crystals,
when in reality they still need an owner or handler to either store knowledge inside them, or use them to refine and project their will and energies.

[PurpleLama]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567
[IMG]

My hair sure has grown since then.

I don't have a picture with my sword, but I found this article with pictures of it, anyway.

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/cskatana.htm

[Guest]

Still typing on a phone grateful that I have it. A techno wizard friend of mine going to fix my comp & put some -nazi resistent- hardware in it for me. He used to work for one of the programs w/the acronyns behind it that we all talk about here. When I met him I didn't know... but felt something was up with him.... Then came the quiet realization he wanted me to help him. So, we are helping him put some his heart soul & spirit pieces back together...

as for crystals, to me they are equalizers -a gift from the earth

When I was very young someone very wise once said to me, do not abuse your power.
The answers you seek are within -i still struggle none the less

Modwiz so glad to see the hilt of your sword is pointed down -would not want to be around if you had to wield it:rolleyes:

Here & now enjoying a beautiful clear autumn day.

Nora

We are all related

[ulli]

I've been meaning to change my avatar to my current self...the last one was pretty and all, but 7 years old.
So I want to show reality for the Here and Now thread, although I breathed on the lens to blur the wrinkles.
Women are allowed a little trickery...so please indulge me.
Slowly getting a tan here.


Here are two pictures of where I hang out most afternoons.
Internet connection is better than in my house. Most of the time I'm the only person here, except for staff.
Recession time has hit the Caribbean.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11570&thumb=1&d=1322331687


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11569&thumb=1&d=1322331560

[modwiz]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567
[IMG]

My hair sure has grown since then.

I don't have a picture with my sword, but I found this article with pictures of it, anyway.

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/cskatana.htm

Thanks for the link,PL. Nice sword.

[Marianne]

Here & now enjoying a beautiful clear autumn day.

Me too, Nora. I am glad you're having lovely weather too. The breeze keeps whipping up... I don't think I'm doing it, but maybe... I do love a nice breeze to blow the leaves around.
The sky is blue, the chemtraails of the morning are gone, now just whispy white clouds beyond the tall pines. The sun is lower these days but just warm enough. It dips below the deck roof. A hat brim keeps it out of my eyes for now.

LS, I'm glad I'm nowhere near Perth. Maybe a few deep breaths to tide you over til Monday? Hope you get it all straightened out easy as pie.

I never had a well running computer til recently ... finally got a Lenovo thinkpad laptop, named her Gert, and she's been running pretty smooth. When I remember, I like to connect with the machines in my life, and acknowledge their connection to divinity. Everything in the world of form has this, not just trees and grass and flowers. Machaelle Wright talks about it, and Christopher Penczak. Surprising what you can do with it.

Where else could I feel free to post something like this, generally, and have every expectation that most people would understand what I'm saying, or at least be willing to give it a thought?

Love,
Marianne

PS: Ulli, I'm there with you in spirit! It's so beautiful, happy you are in that gorgeous place ... now I can visualize your whereabouts.

[Carmody]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567


My hair sure has grown since then.

I don't have a picture with my sword, but I found this article with pictures of it, anyway.

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/cskatana.htm

As I explained to mod, in a PM, my history seems to lie in this direction:

[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110526011845/camphalfbloodroleplay/images/a/a8/Scimitar.jpg

very solid Pummel for close quarters, guard and pummel designed so you can hit the dirt and keep your hand, at the same time you keep dexterity. designed with a razorback top due to the weakened forearm motion on the backstroke, weighted toward the tip for good side defense motion capacity, and the finisher is in the other hand..as this one's main job is to force the defense.

I've never touched a sword in this life, really, other than little bit here and there, but this sort of sword speaks to me. due to my smaller stature, such a sword would be just under cutlass and Katana size. With two filled hands, the other resembling a slightly undersized gladius or kopis:
http://www.knifeforums.com/uploads/med_1188270129-Kopis.jpg

Put the sword catcher on that weapon, versatility remains in both hands, even though the designations are specific. Few people would fail to back away from that pairing, except for Armour, which would not be encountered under the conditions that pair would find themselves in.

So Mod seemingly has history in Europe, I'm seemingly from the med-mideast, and Purple is seemingly from the east. Within the scope of such things, that is.

I'm reluctant to make posts about swords, and I apologize for it...but one cannot understand their meaning, IMO, without encountering them and having been of that nature at one time or another.

[ulli]

Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

11559


Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


11560

Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
11567


My hair sure has grown since then.

I don't have a picture with my sword, but I found this article with pictures of it, anyway.

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/cskatana.htm

As I explained to mod, in a PM, my history seems to lie in this direction:

[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110526011845/camphalfbloodroleplay/images/a/a8/Scimitar.jpg

very solid Pummel for close quarters, guard and pummel designed so you can hit the dirt and keep your hand, at the same time you keep dexterity. designed with a razorback top due to the weakened forearm motion on the backstroke, weighted toward the tip for good side defense motion capacity, and the finisher is in the other hand..as this one's main job is to force the defense.

I've never touched a sword in this life, really, other than little bit here and there, but this sort of sword speaks to me. due to my smaller stature, such a sword would be just under cutlass and Katana size. With two filled hands, the other resembling a slightly undersized gladius or kopis:
http://www.knifeforums.com/uploads/med_1188270129-Kopis.jpg

Put the sword catcher on that weapon, versatility remains in both hands, even though the designations are specific. Few people would fail to back away from that pairing, except for Armour, which would not be encountered under the conditions that pair would find themselves in.

So Mod seemingly has history in Europe, I'm seemingly from the med-mideast, and Purple is seemingly from the east. Within the scope of such things, that is.

I'm reluctant to make posts about swords, and I apologize for it...but one cannot understand their meaning, IMO, without encountering them and having been of that nature at one time or another.


Guy talk is fine as long as it doesn't lead to gender wars.
Also I prefer conversations about swords to baseball bats.
More romance more history more culture.

[ViralSpiral]

Good evening. I've missed this place....


Grats on ending your fast Astrid! Some-one sent this to me recently. Made me chuckle

http://www.ironydesign.com/gallery/imona30daydietLOGO.gif

[Carmody]

Guy talk is fine as long as it doesn't lead to gender wars.
Also I prefer conversations about swords to baseball bats.
More romance more history more culture.


I could talk about the kitsch togas that the provincials in Egypt where wearing when the Roman rule of Egypt was getting long in the tooth..when I was there. they were trying to emulate the Romans and their elites, senate, high up Roman women, etc. Just like the eastern (in today's situation) and backwoods of the world do when they try to emulate something from a far away culture that has overtaken their own.

It was downright embarrassing. As usual, they never seemed to notice it. This difference between caricature and culture. It had a touch of Greek flair to it, as you might imagine.

so yeah, this is a human thing that has been going on for quite some time. In this case it was fully rampant nearly 2000 years ago, in Egypt.

[Muzz]

Hi folks

More of an axe man.
http://www.woodsmithstore.co.uk/uploads/fullsize/Scandanavian%20Forest%20Axe.jpg
Got a nice Gransfors Bruks last year for camping.


more history more culture
Swords are cool though.
PSZKGzGqOt0

Great thread Ulli. Sorry for not popping by to say hi sooner.
Muzz

[ulli]

Hi folks

More of an axe man.
http://www.woodsmithstore.co.uk/uploads/fullsize/Scandanavian%20Forest%20Axe.jpg
Got a nice Gransfors Bruks last year for camping.


more history more culture
Swords are cool though.
PSZKGzGqOt0

Great thread Ulli. Sorry for not popping by to say hi sooner.
Muzz

Nice to see you, Muzz.
Someone posted your avatar picture here ...many, many pages ago.
I asked for you then but you never showed up in person until now.
Please make yourself at home.
Coffee, Beer, Tea, Scotch, Rum?
We have a great crowd here, and all are great conversationalists.
With the occasional report what is going on in the Here and Now of our lives.
Open is the word, not mum.

[ulli]

Guy talk is fine as long as it doesn't lead to gender wars.
Also I prefer conversations about swords to baseball bats.
More romance more history more culture.


I could talk about the kitsch togas that the provincials in Egypt where wearing when the Roman rule of Egypt was getting long in the tooth..when I was there. they were trying to emulate the Romans and their elites, senate, high up Roman women, etc. Just like the eastern (in today's situation) and backwoods of the world do when they try to emulate something from a far away culture that has overtaken their own.

It was downright embarrassing. As usual, they never seemed to notice it. This difference between caricature and culture. It had a touch of Greek flair to it, as you might imagine.

so yeah, this is a human thing that has been going on for quite some time. In this case it was fully rampant nearly 2000 years ago, in Egypt.

If and when a person understands time properly and gets out of linear thought for a moment then it becomes quite clear that there are these overlaps.
The past is being relived now.
Ancient Rome= Washington DC today.

[Marianne]

Muzz! Great to see you here. Stay awhile, whydoncha?

[ulli]

Muzz! Great to see you here. Stay awhile, whydoncha?

I see you two have met before...great. So Muzz won't feel like a stranger.
Marianne will take good care of you, Muzz, won't you, Marianne. ;)

[Muzz]

Hello! :)

A nice single malt with a touch of water, no ice thanks. Hope your all doing well. Im enjoying a nice relaxing night after a busy day. Looks like im in good hands.

[ulli]

A friend of mine who lives in Costa Rica once posted this article to his website, comparing the US and Rome.

http://www.strayreality.com/pax_romana.htm

[Marianne]

Muzz! Great to see you here. Stay awhile, whydoncha?

I see you two have met before...great. So Muzz won't feel like a stranger.
Marianne will take good care of you, Muzz, won't you, Marianne. ;)

I surely will, Ulli. Muzz and I are friends from way back (well, a few weeks anyway).

:)

[astrid]

Dinner for birthday friend went well .
First time effort at homemade Japanese food was
loads of fun and a big success .
My body is still getting used to eating again,
not hungry much at all , so will just mainly juice this
week to ease the transition .

Ulli the smilarities continue, I have the same frames
as you. I found them in a vintage shop years ago , they
are from Paris . These days they are back in fashion
and very expensive . They cost me fifty cents .

[NeverMind]

Hello Nevermind...I totally missed your post somehow...I guess the thread is moving too fast for me these days...so happy to see you here, and about you adding your special moment. I know all about that anticipation thing....and holding off...
In my case I found the answer or explanation in astrology...as a Capricorn I have a strong Saturn factor which is about self deprivation. By depriving myself I guess I am piling up future joy, or so my Saturnian inner whisperer wants to have me believe.
When joy comes with great force it can sweep one to heights where enlightenment is possible...or at least the glare of the sun is not so strong any longer that the stars and infinite cosmos are veiled by sun glares/flares.

Oh please, Ulli, the only thing "special" about that moment I wrote about was reading other people's "now" moments, starting with yours. :)

The perception - and recording - of the "now" is an essential part of my being, and has been since I was child. Let's leave it at that. :-)
Which is why I look forward to reading more and more - and more - of those other people's "nows". Not a single one of them is uninteresting or "irrelevant", no matter how modest it may appear to be. How could it be?


P.S. Capricorn, eh?
Capricorns can be VERY interesting. :-)

[Muzz]

Been a busy couple of days for me. Mother in hopital (but shes doin fine), wife stuck at the airport, helpin my wee bro movin into a new house. Looking forward to a few hours surfin Avalon. Thanks for link Ulli, interesting similarities. I visited Rome 2 years ago. It was both a lovely ( Spannish steps, the fountains and especially Tivolli) and creepy (the vatican :fie:) experience.

Hi Marianne hope your gettin on well with you mod training. Thanks for helpin Avalon.

[1derer]

Thanks WhiteFeather, judging by your avatar, I thought you and others might appreciate this mantra and video.....

Peace Brother, for we all flow in the same rivers and winds

The beauty and fire of spirit, cannot ever be doused!:clap2:

Namaste...

rq-1bxJc7F0

Thank you. I needed to connect with Spirit.
It worked.

Hi Ulli,

I am glad that it has helped someone, it is really important to reconnect or reaffirm your inner spirit, I send you additional vibes of goodness too!

[Marianne]

Been a busy couple of days for me. Mother in hopital (but shes doin fine), wife stuck at the airport, helpin my wee bro movin into a new house. Looking forward to a few hours surfin Avalon. Thanks for link Ulli, interesting similarities. I visited Rome 2 years ago. It was both a lovely ( Spannish steps, the fountains and especially Tivolli) and creepy (the vatican :fie:) experience.

Hi Marianne hope your gettin on well with you mod training. Thanks for helpin Avalon.

Muzz, sending winged slippers to your wife at the airport ... to godspeed her along!
And glad to hear your mum is doing okay ... hope she's out of the hospital soon.

[PurpleLama]

[QUOTE=Calz_Avaretard;364076]Wonder which of the local wiz'z will claim this one???

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Hmmm ... modwiz doesn't indulge ... note sure about PL.

Could be there is an imposter in the village ...


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Well, being as I don't drink I will claim or share the top one. I do have a version of Glamdring in my possession. It is a big sword.
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My hair sure has grown since then.

I don't have a picture with my sword, but I found this article with pictures of it, anyway.

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As I explained to mod, in a PM, my history seems to lie in this direction:

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very solid Pummel for close quarters, guard and pummel designed so you can hit the dirt and keep your hand, at the same time you keep dexterity. designed with a razorback top due to the weakened forearm motion on the backstroke, weighted toward the tip for good side defense motion capacity, and the finisher is in the other hand..as this one's main job is to force the defense.

I've never touched a sword in this life, really, other than little bit here and there, but this sort of sword speaks to me. due to my smaller stature, such a sword would be just under cutlass and Katana size. With two filled hands, the other resembling a slightly undersized gladius or kopis:
[IMG]

Put the sword catcher on that weapon, versatility remains in both hands, even though the designations are specific. Few people would fail to back away from that pairing, except for Armour, which would not be encountered under the conditions that pair would find themselves in.

So Mod seemingly has history in Europe, I'm seemingly from the med-mideast, and Purple is seemingly from the east. Within the scope of such things, that is.

I'm reluctant to make posts about swords, and I apologize for it...but one cannot understand their meaning, IMO, without encountering them and having been of that nature at one time or another.

When I first saw this post, I had an urge to make one of those of the cuff cryptic remarks, saying that we first had a meeting in egypt before going those separate ways, in reference to europe the east and mideast. I didn't say it then, but then y'all go talking about egypt, so I thought maybe it was worth saying after all.

Also, we were at the local lebanese restaurant, so here and now I am pretty stuffed on all the felafel and kibeh and baba ganouj and hummus, and so on. And don't forget the arabian tea. It was awesome, and a little early celebration for lotusblossom's birthday, which is tomorrow. We are now at home watching Bleach. If you haven't seen this, Carmody, you should if you care at all for anime.

WONzH5iGoaM

Swords are better than baseball bats and eating bugs, I reckon.

[Guest]

Where are markoid and transiten? Is markoid recovering well? Did transiten's gypsy soul wander off somewhere?

Nora

We are all related

[ulli]

Just had three generations under one roof.
I can tell the Crystal children are the builders of the new world, born old.

Question for Carmody:
have you ever met any people with no formal education, yet with past-life memories?

[eaglespirit]

Nice to see you, Muzz.
Someone posted your avatar picture here ...many, many pages ago.
I asked for you then but you never showed up in person until now.
Please make yourself at home.
Coffee, Beer, Tea, Scotch, Rum?
We have a great crowd here, and all are great conversationalists.
With the occasional report what is going on in the Here and Now of our lives.
Open is the word, not mum.

That was me, Ulli...good to see You, Muzz! : ) : ) : )
http://phantomimic.weebly.com/uploads/6/9/0/0/6900002/6164819.jpg?630
Hmmm...good sharing goin' on...every time I take a Cape Cod nostalgia journey away from the 'puter all kinds of new and interesting posts here at ol' Here and Now!
I'll have to drum up my pictures of the beautiful crystal wands a steady visitor to the ECETI Ranch brought with Him last time I was there for 6 months. I mean...the 'energy' of those wands of his sent me to the cosmos and the center of the earth at the same time : )
I'll post those in a few...methinks You 'Here and Nowers' will feel the energy right thru the 'puter!!!

[PurpleLama]

Crystal wands? They wouldn't be selenite, would they?

[eaglespirit]

Crystal wands? They wouldn't be selenite, would they?

Hi PurpleLama ... Happy Saturday to You : )
Yes...among other 'prompted' ingredient Brad included in the many wands He created! He is an engineer in the 3d world and was and is very particular/diligent about His Creations:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/wands.jpg

Loving Higher Wand Energy To Here and Now : )

[Muzz]

Hi eaglespirit good to see you too. That pic aways makes me smile. Nice to see a bigger version. Hope your well. Sittin here with the wind howlin and rain batterin off the window. Good Scottish weather. :)

[Calz]

Guy talk is fine as long as it doesn't lead to gender wars.
Also I prefer conversations about swords to baseball bats.
More romance more history more culture.


What blasphamy is this???


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... since "us guys" are trotting out their swords ... I prefer the two-handed variety myself.

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Sid - having worked with computers much of my life ... I feel your pain. :smash:


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Anyway ... here and now ... going to be one damn long weekend. Mandatory overtime on the weekend means back to back 13 hour shifts all by my lonesome.

:fie::sleep::fie:

Family at home having fun putting up the Christmas tree. Not me.

Ah well ... at least I have the village. Who knows ... perhaps I can even finally put a dent in those first 56 pages???

[blufire]

First time to post here.
cleaned chicken coop this morning. Partner and I put up nearly a cord of firewood this afternoon.

I'm sitting in the Jacuzzi with epsom salt and Rosemary leaves soaking sore muscles. . . . And a ginger ale and vodka

[Calz]

First time to post here.
cleaned chicken coop this morning. Partner and I put up nearly a cord of firewood this afternoon.

I'm sitting in the Jacuzzi with epsom salt and Rosemary leaves soaking sore muscles. . . . And a ginger ale and vodka


First Muzz and now blufire ... :welcome: :whoo:

Hey I thought you were ruffin' it up in the mountains in survival mode ... sup with the Jacuzzi??? :shocked:

[Muzz]

Hi Calz hope yor well. 13 hour shifts is a bummer. I'll be headin off to bed soon. 1.27 am here. Nightshift tomorrow for me.

[Carmody]

Just had three generations under one roof.
I can tell the Crystal children are the builders of the new world, born old.

Question for Carmody:
have you ever met any people with no formal education, yet with past-life memories?

Not yet, that i can recall. I don't commonly meet people with no formal education. If you mean simply no high level education, then..yes. I'd have to think who and where, though. I myself have no 'formal' education (they remain uncompleted). But I do impress my patent lawyer. He has his doctorate in mechanical engineering, and taught the same at Germany's most prestigious Polytechnic institute, and then did ten years of patent design work for technological firms in the equivalent of 'silicon valley'.

[dan33]

First time to post here.
cleaned chicken coop this morning. Partner and I put up nearly a cord of firewood this afternoon.

I'm sitting in the Jacuzzi with epsom salt and Rosemary leaves soaking sore muscles. . . . And a ginger ale and vodka

ha, haa! :)

[1derer]

Hi All, I just wanted to share my dream...

I was showing a friend the sun and a second Sun at the five o'clock position to our Sun, behind the clouds, and met some kids - around 6-7 of them and a baby that was only a few months old with one of them.

It got real dark and grey and then it started to rain.

Suddenly, I experienced an Earthquake and it was so strong, I felt as if the building were falling (it was a high rise building).

I came running out from another room and told the young kids that an earthquake was taking place and it felt like a Mag 9.0, but they assured me the building would not fall and it was only a Mag 8.0!!

All was calm thereafter, but I was jolted awake by the dream, prompting me to write it down, and even check the www.usgs.gov website, though I was relieved to see there were no major quakes.

Today, I saw a news item on CNN, with the presenter talking about quakes in New Zealand! the presenter mentioned that Mag 8.0 quakes happen there every hundred years or so, and this made me feel better too.

I even went on Avalon Chat to discuss it, and the result was that the dream could be interpreted as major upheaval in personal life, and my perception is not as worrying as I perceive it to be, hence the 'downgrading' of Mag 9.0 to Mag 8.0...!! Thanks to those who talked to me about it.

[Carmody]

Crystal wands? They wouldn't be selenite, would they?

Hi PurpleLama ... Happy Saturday to You : )
Yes...among other 'prompted' ingredient Brad included in the many wands He created! He is an engineer in the 3d world and was and is very particular/diligent about His Creations:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/wands.jpg

Loving Higher Wand Energy To Here and Now : )

;):whistle::tape2:

[Carmody]

Since this evening, early, I've been going around singing this song ...and as I came to the forum, I wanted to post these two videos.

just now (about 1/2 hour back) I started crying like a baby, the kind that is so hard that you choke and need a towel, not a tissue paper. I wondered why.

Gaia had just made her post.

here are the two songs.

NIuyDWzctgY

hc_EOboILK4

[1derer]

Since this evening, early, I've been going around singing this song ...and as I came to the forum, I wanted to post these two videos.

just now (about 1/2 hour back) I started crying like a baby, the kind that is so hard that you choke and need a towel, not a tissue paper. I wondered why.

Gaia had just made her post.

here are the two songs.

NIuyDWzctgY



hc_EOboILK4

Who's a lovely person? U R!!!!!

The first song is one of my favourites when I feel down, oh Servant of civiliness of the interdimensional variety (loving that!!)


DRIFT AWAY MAN!

ps THE POINT NEVER VANISHES, IT SIMPLY REJUVENATES AT THE PERCEIVED END POINT, AND LOVING THE WANDS, HARRY POTTER WOULD BE SO PROUD ;)

PPS I always thought the word beatboys was freedom: Give me the freedom tofree maah soul ahh wanna git lowst in yo rock n roll an drift away, though both sound kool huh?!!

[Carmody]

This is sort of a cross subject. One sends love ....the other helps absorb the blow. Which is more correct? Or is that even a worthwhile question? How does one take a shuttle craft in space, and then meet another craft in earth orbit? Well, they find the orbit, they match velocities, they join up, they match internal pressure..and then the doors can be opened. Then information can be transferred.

the same way we all live in this given timeline or consensus reality.

How did I manage to get to lost souls in those spaces? The same way. That's empathy, when it's working right, at least in how I know to work it. Find them, match vibration, blend, and get them to the right frame or vibration to be able to move on.

[ulli]

Dinner for birthday friend went well .
First time effort at homemade Japanese food was
loads of fun and a big success .
My body is still getting used to eating again,
not hungry much at all , so will just mainly juice this
week to ease the transition .

Ulli the smilarities continue, I have the same frames
as you. I found them in a vintage shop years ago , they
are from Paris . These days they are back in fashion
and very expensive . They cost me fifty cents .

Another thing we have in common...we both seem to be second hand roses.
Once vintage shop, always vintage shop.
I can't buy at full retail prices any more...can't stand those glitzy establishments with their fake advertising.

[ulli]

Hi Calz hope yor well. 13 hour shifts is a bummer. I'll be headin off to bed soon. 1.27 am here. Nightshift tomorrow for me.



We'll have to do what we can to keep you entertained.
No videos for Calz...gotta remember he's behind a huge firewall.

[ulli]

Hi All, I just wanted to share my dream...

I was showing a friend the sun and a second Sun at the five o'clock position to our Sun, behind the clouds, and met some kids - around 6-7 of them and a baby that was only a few months old with one of them.

It got real dark and grey and then it started to rain.

Suddenly, I experienced an Earthquake and it was so strong, I felt as if the building were falling (it was a high rise building).

I came running out from another room and told the young kids that an earthquake was taking place and it felt like a Mag 9.0, but they assured me the building would not fall and it was only a Mag 8.0!!

All was calm thereafter, but I was jolted awake by the dream, prompting me to write it down, and even check the www.usgs.gov website, though I was relieved to see there were no major quakes.

Today, I saw a news item on CNN, with the presenter talking about quakes in New Zealand! the presenter mentioned that Mag 8.0 quakes happen there every hundred years or so, and this made me feel better too.

I even went on Avalon Chat to discuss it, and the result was that the dream could be interpreted as major upheaval in personal life, and my perception is not as worrying as I perceive it to be, hence the 'downgrading' of Mag 9.0 to Mag 8.0...!! Thanks to those who talked to me about it.

Each major house move in my life was accompanied by an earthquake dream.
Sad periods come with wave and tsunami dreams. Once I dreamt of a lake flooding and the water went through a house and even crashed the front windows open from the inside...the next day was a tear day for me. Symbols.
Frustration and anger periods have volcano dreams.

[Calz]

Hi Calz hope yor well. 13 hour shifts is a bummer. I'll be headin off to bed soon. 1.27 am here. Nightshift tomorrow for me.



We'll have to do what we can to keep you entertained.
No videos for Calz...gotta remember he's behind a huge firewall.

Don't hold back any vids on my account.

I can always catch up when I get home.

You all gotta go with the flow of the moment ... hey ... what a catchy concept.

Someone ought to start a thread???


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[Seikou-Kishi]

Crystal wands? They wouldn't be selenite, would they?

Hi PurpleLama ... Happy Saturday to You : )
Yes...among other 'prompted' ingredient Brad included in the many wands He created! He is an engineer in the 3d world and was and is very particular/diligent about His Creations:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/wands.jpg

Loving Higher Wand Energy To Here and Now : )

Oh, I love these! The attention to detail and love for the work that has gone into them is unmistakable.

[ulli]

Just had three generations under one roof.
I can tell the Crystal children are the builders of the new world, born old.

Question for Carmody:
have you ever met any people with no formal education, yet with past-life memories?

Not yet, that i can recall. I don't commonly meet people with no formal education. If you mean simply no high level education, then..yes. I'd have to think who and where, though. I myself have no 'formal' education (they remain uncompleted). But I do impress my patent lawyer. He has his doctorate in mechanical engineering, and taught the same at Germany's most prestigious Polytechnic institute, and then did ten years of patent design work for technological firms in the equivalent of 'silicon valley'.


Just as I thought...too impatient to complete college and put up with pea brained tutors. Me too...proud to be a college drop out. By the time the others graduated I already had established my company and one of my old classmates wanted a job as an intern.
When Jupiter trines your little cluster in Virgo next year you'll really impress your patent lawyer. Especially if you predict the date and it turns out to be correct.
Anyway, back to uneducated people...the hardest part is to get them to accept themselves and not feel inaedequate...
There are lots of gifted people in Central America...but no education. I tell them they have graduated from the University of Hard Knocks, and that breaks the ice and they laugh. It's an art to feed a family on $200 a month.
Then free them from their fear of the local priest...another challenge. Finally get them to share their dreams...and help with the interpretation...that's when their gifts become really apparent. I have a couple of construction workers, they have become like sons to me, and especially the Scorpio is very psychic.

[modwiz]

Other than massage school and Interfaith seminary I have just a GED. People ask me what college I went to sometimes. I'm touched............in the head!

My observation is that self taught people who never stop learning, are the ones worth listening to.

[meeradas]

Amazing pace here @ the village.
Can't keep up whilst "working" ["...", as i don't really know what it is].
Shame; just enuff time to read a little, and pass some thanks...
Looking forward to retirement [concerning "work"]. Truly tired of it.

Have a nice day/night, y'all.

[ViralSpiral]

This is sort of a cross subject. One sends love ....the other helps absorb the blow. Which is more correct? Or is that even a worthwhile question? How does one take a shuttle craft in space, and then meet another craft in earth orbit? Well, they find the orbit, they match velocities, they join up, they match internal pressure..and then the doors can be opened. Then information can be transferred.

the same way we all live in this given timeline or consensus reality.

How did I manage to get to lost souls in those spaces? The same way. That's empathy, when it's working right, at least in how I know to work it. Find them, match vibration, blend, and get them to the right frame or vibration to be able to move on.


There he goes again........ sending out love http://th811.photobucket.com/albums/zz38/MrsBob_1964/th_smiley-girl-in-computer-blow-kiss.gif

That song: Drift away? One of my favourites too!


Here and now I am enveloped by sadness & grief for my friend in Australia (soooo far away for a hug :( ), who has lost her second brother in another freak accident in less than 2 years. So I look for the light in the pouring rain
So that arrow you shot Carmody? It hit hard. I know that with time, we all are able to move on.

Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul

[Lily de Cuir]

wanna get lost in my rock and roll and drift away...

[Calz]

I find there can be some advantages to my long hours serving as slave to the man in the here and now. Instead of writing on the chalkboard 100 times I did this or that wrong in class I can read and reread one of Carmody's awesome posts until just a sliver of light breaks through.

I present to you thread post # 3394 (without quotes to save everyone going crosseyed trying to read the italic print) :wacko::wacko2:

I'll add a few images for (my) emphasis (cuz I am that kinda guy) and once his post starts any text added that is bold is mine.

_________________


Carmody:


The capacity to change or shift timelines..part of the answer involves carrying as much as possible of the self in the given moment of now.

Which is why we have to be careful to make sure that our memories don't become a repeat, and that we get a new answer and not a repeat of the past.

The reason we get a repeat of the past even when we are thinking of the new, is that the subconscious (the red shift, the fear memory response system-fear is part of it), as we like to call it, is not on the same page as the now, it is dragging the wrong frame of reference. it is dragging into the equation the memories of the response of the edifice or the body, into the new condition.

Our histories make us stable in the 'timeflow' of the ocean of this reality, but this keel of stability can also cause us to go into repeats or courses where the conscious state can see (future sight) that it does not want to go.

The moment of now and the past and the future.

The now, the red and the blue shift.

the now, the fear, and the love.


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Red shift blue shift ... yes yes!!!! I can see it now!


The now, and the hypnotics of red light and blue light, as used in programming methods. (the recent crap of the twilight film causing epileptic seizures in the theater. either it was sheer stupidity or it was a direct attempt to program a new timeline with that as a reality of some sort, via programming the population en-masse, to change the weight, shaping and direction of the keel)


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Yes of course ... it is so clear now ... how could I have missed it before???



It sounds trite, but the key to not carrying negative expression forward into the formation of this moment, lies in not dragging this history of ours into the moment of now, which will shape the expression of now via the fears of the past. (too much red color in a 'now mass' that should be more blue) (hey, balance. there's that purple thingie again... red and blue makes..a form of...violet)


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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Purple



We must replace the fear response system carried forward in the moment of now (an enlargement of our presence), we must replace this fear-forward negative mass influence (of the now moment) with a bundle of knowledge of this sort (clarity and mass of such in the moment of now), so the formation of the now changes the equation to come. Ye old 'be love' line is actually, very true, in the scientific analysis, as well--just a different name. love alone is not enough. We must be the complex expression of the flower of life in the moment of now, which as at it's core expression..contains the component of love.


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Note to self ... lose the fear.


Awareness changes presence -changes energetic carrier levels- changes potential to change the future, within the given 'now mass' of the individual.

Your capacity to shift the reality of the moment will be directly related to how much you carry in the moment, ie the size and scope of your awareness.

Single thoughts are a constriction of effectiveness. Focus is diffuse, if it is to be effective, for it carries as much as possible. Not less. Renaissance human is effective, the specialist in physics looses the whole thing as they have one strand of hair on the head of the thing, they have less, not more. They are a small rock stuck between the treads of the rolling wheel of life. The Renaissance human is in the vehicle proper, and is no longer stuck to the wheel.

Lack of awareness gives that potential away to someone else who might decide to play with it. It is within each human, each of us handles it differently. Knowing this is key. different genetics possess different abilities to express the moment of now, and the given channels.

The reality is that ADD and ADHD (or whatever they call it) is a good thing... it is the ability to hold and process more in the moment of now.. not less. It is an increase in our ability to hold more channels/data in the moment of now, thus increasing our presence in the timeline flow, thus our ability to steer the moment of now. It is by necessity and simple logic of this idea of increased capacity..it is by necessity...diffuse. focusing it is key. Drugs are entirely the wrong direction.

This requires that the branching of the mind in early life be diffuse, or by nature ..be that way. we hear stories about things done to children.

This complex modern world, properly handled.... is enabling this process..dramatically.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the replacement message. The original was far stronger. It was too sharp of a change, like a freak wave in the timeline. Easy does it now.... the original message explained specifics on the details of how and how to.

I remember. I return to being.


Typhon was the the beast with a thousand eyes. Does this make more sense now?


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Absolutely!



In one tiny corner of this analysis....Let us look at traditional (historical) circumcision -again.

Let your mind wander among the possibilities I speak of, which is only the door, not the way itself.

~~~~~~~~

And as I fully 'awaken', as they call it, as I drink my coffee..this complex knowing begins to fade..as this reflection of this dream, this rolling moment of now timeline takes over...and I fade into the single tiny point. the huge self or presence, is forced to fit into that tiny body.

I must remember.

So I write it down.

I mentioned to you folks a while back, some of you may remember, that I'm an enlightenment junkie, ..like a kid who can't stop playing with a revolving door.


________________________


Going back to Cali:

Yes I have lost my mind. Solitary confinement is a harsh way to go. :loco:

At least I have some valuable training for when we get herded into the FEMA camps. Oooops :sorry: there is that red shift thingie again.

Hopefully the village members will be understanding and forgiving (especially Carmody).

Actually it is a way (albiet a silly one) of bumping a remarkable post so that some others might give it a 2nd (or 3rd) look (without needing to go to the extremes I have).

:wave:

Cal

[astrid]

Dinner for birthday friend went well .
First time effort at homemade Japanese food was
loads of fun and a big success .
My body is still getting used to eating again,
not hungry much at all , so will just mainly juice this
week to ease the transition .

Ulli the smilarities continue, I have the same frames
as you. I found them in a vintage shop years ago , they
are from Paris . These days they are back in fashion
and very expensive . They cost me fifty cents .

Another thing we have in common...we both seem to be second hand roses.
Once vintage shop, always vintage shop.
I can't buy at full retail prices any more...can't stand those glitzy establishments with their fake advertising.

Yep yep and yep, its either recycle or i make it , and
even then I use recycled to make from .
My best work was always when I had zero money and
only thin air to create from . I also have a keen eye for
creating the right products at the right time .
But i gave up on that pathway as I depise comsumerism .
I simply could no longer be part of the mess .
I'm working on finding new ways to use my skills so I'm
part of the solution. .

Incomplete studies , telll me about it.
Three degrees all 3/4 done .
But I seem to just stay for as long as I'm still learning
after that I figure I'm done. Self taught much greater
leanings anyways , how is it learning if it's already been
done before , that's just recycling another's ideas
Can't see the point in that , I'm living my life not
thiers. For sure have the utmost respect for the paths
tread by others , but don't be afraid to wonder off
the path to do some exploring of your own .
There is much yet to be discovered.
If the day came that I stopped learning then it's
time to go home .

[ulli]

I'm so glad you did that, Cal.
I agree that this was also one of Carmody's best posts ever. As I'm getting older the red shift is getting to me, too, and this post is excellent heart medicine.
In my astrology thread I briefly started to expound a theory of mine about the need to integrate opposite signs.
The axis of fear is to me without a doubt Cancer-Capricorn, the Matriarch Patriarch protectors.
Security consciousness and caution can get out of hand when it comes to protecting one's own children.
A sense of responsibility demands it.
Yet there are signs where the level of trust and confidence is much higher, like the Axis of Leo and Aquarius.
More future oriented, less fearful.
I'll talk more about this later.

[astrid]

Thanks Calz that post is for sure worth a major
repeat was my fav thus far .
Quite the energy transmission .

[PurpleLama]

I also never received a college degree, however I did receive accreditation from "the School of Light Beings" thanks to my hokey ol' reiki teacher. Seriously, though, what interests me can't be taught in school, at least in Miss'ippi, that being the occult. So dropping out (for monetary reasons) afforded me time to delve deeply into that subject, and it's great because after a certain point the universe takes you as it's pupil and the education rightly exceeds anything that has been recorded in any textbook, or grimoire, for that matter.

[astrid]

As for the here and nowness of things,
post fast, im for sure feeling a new expanded sense of
awakeness and awareness . A much better flow in
my day, less mind clutter more pure conscious awareness,
Who would have thought that fasting could remove
alll that energy pollution from ones field .
But I can vouch for that being the case .

Since back eating. and was just on juice too, much
less hyper sensitive, dealt with supermarket no
issues. Although I was floating in the plane above,
at least I was able to negotiate both worlds at once .
Even managed to get that mowing done, given i
did it when the neighbors were out , but still job is
done .

Noticing too an even more intense connection with
nature. When I'm out in it time just stops, and I
enter that otheworldly space . So waking life has an even
greater dreamlike feel than it did before .

Physically I'd say I have lost around 10kg maybe
more. The first solid meal back felt very heavy
in my body and it was all salad . Which gives
some clue of the density of a heavy meat meal
It will be interesting to see in the coming days
and weeks how I integrate the whole experience
in my day to day life .

[9eagle9]

OMG! Jacuzzi's ARE a matter of survival!!




First time to post here.
cleaned chicken coop this morning. Partner and I put up nearly a cord of firewood this afternoon.

I'm sitting in the Jacuzzi with epsom salt and Rosemary leaves soaking sore muscles. . . . And a ginger ale and vodka


First Muzz and now blufire ... :welcome: :whoo:

Hey I thought you were ruffin' it up in the mountains in survival mode ... sup with the Jacuzzi??? :shocked:

[Carmody]

I also never received a college degree, however I did receive accreditation from "the School of Light Beings" thanks to my hokey ol' reiki teacher. Seriously, though, what interests me can't be taught in school, at least in Miss'ippi, that being the occult. So dropping out (for monetary reasons) afforded me time to delve deeply into that subject, and it's great because after a certain point the universe takes you as it's pupil and the education rightly exceeds anything that has been recorded in any textbook, or grimoire, for that matter.

I just had a series of dream sequences that illustrated to me clearly that "the first shall be last and the last shall be first", as in the last dream before waking will be the clearest and the last dream will also be the first in linear time.

which is what you experienced here the other day. the last thing you dreamed was the first thing you saw.

The story out there has been that we see our dreams in reverse, and I think I can confirm that. Mirror universe. Which takes us to Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five and Ben Bova's 'Orion' series of books, and Benjamin Button, etc..

I know all this already, I'm just remembering it again.

I might relate it, but I'll just say that burning rubber stinks and is difficult to clean up. I forgot something on the stove, turned the wrong burner on to heat up the kettle for coffee.. and started a fire. first thing in the morning. Ugh.

And that everything we see in dreams is entirely symbolic of our formation association with it's thought form.

The more feelings oriented or connected the issue is, the more the emotions color the thought form and shift/alter it.

the only time I've EVER been 100% clear of thought form intrusion in vision or the like, is when I went to the egoless state. which is very difficult to hold, in this world. at least it was, for this one.

Which is why the shaman avoids external influence and also avoids a complex life. Otherwise the sight is damaged, shifted, and altered.

The best cure is egoic sublimation. The act of having vision itself helps tremendously, as then the ego is sublimated through knowing. the ego spirals down in influence, into something that is much quieter and much less intrusive.

the thing to understand, is that ALL dreaming is a form of temporal vision as from the personal viewpoint. That all critical point of understanding...is occluded by the ego and form-shaping aspects of the connection to the body, through the body, by the body's autonomous systems.the parts of the body's workings we no longer consciously act out.

For example, the eyeballs you utilize, the ones moving right now, to read and interpret these bits of color and contrast differential. somehow that whole thing, that whole sequence becomes 'thoughts'. The mechanics of the actions are relegated and delegated to autonomous response. Like learning to drive a car.

This means that there may be a case for 'short term memory' being a critical thing to consider, when trying to delve into understanding all of this. for the 'short term memory' might be our given 'now' envelope. for example, in order to damp some of this out, I sometimes resort to smoking weed. it kills rem sleep, which means it kills dreams and it also affects short term memory adversely. See the connection?

So.... the short term memory system seems to be connected directly to the size of our given capacity to hold the moment of now. tied to our envelope of temporal holding and existence, thus our given capacity to express energetic form in 'this place', this 3d linear unidirectional thought form consensus reality space.

The place we learned this was when we were very very young. thus the channels of visual information and thought formation come out of and through the base human root or trunk, always. There is no thought or action you can have that is not filtered, shifted, colored and spun into reality... by them.

thus the PTB desire to shift our flowing consensus reality through ego, fear, desire, and teleplays, etc. think about repeated advertising, etc. No wonder I have no TV and refuse to watch one, at all.

television and media leads to a group commonality in inserted conditions, thus a group hook that can be manipulated.

Before it was war, war..as this tool of commonality insertion... to create the group hook that helps create the condition.... that is utilized/leveraged to have us steer our own consensus reality.

now it is media that is used for this purpose.

[PurpleLama]

yep, I'm totally with you in that. Larson's physics and the cosmology of the law of one both agree. Three dimensions of time and three dimensions of space with a membrane, or veil, as it were, in between. When my own awakening began, the first thing that impressed me was how time seemed to flow front and back ways on the other side.

[ulli]

I also never received a college degree, however I did receive accreditation from "the School of Light Beings" thanks to my hokey ol' reiki teacher. Seriously, though, what interests me can't be taught in school, at least in Miss'ippi, that being the occult. So dropping out (for monetary reasons) afforded me time to delve deeply into that subject, and it's great because after a certain point the universe takes you as it's pupil and the education rightly exceeds anything that has been recorded in any textbook, or grimoire, for that matter.

I just had a series of dream sequences that illustrated to me clearly that "the first shall be last and the last shall be first", as in the last dream before waking will be the clearest and the last dream will also be the first in linear time.

which is what you experienced here the other day. the last thing you dreamed was the first thing you saw.

The story out there has been that we see our dreams in reverse, and I think I can confirm that. Mirror universe. Which takes us to Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five and Ben Bova's 'Orion' series of books, and Benjamin Button, etc..

I know all this already, I'm just remembering it again.

I might relate it, but I'll just say that burning rubber stinks and is difficult to clean up. I forgot something on the stove, turned the wrong burner on to heat up the kettle for coffee.. and started a fire. first thing in the morning. Ugh.

And that everything we see in dreams is entirely symbolic of our formation association with it's thought form.

The more feelings oriented or connected the issue is, the more the emotions color the thought form and shift/alter it.

the only time I've EVER been 100% clear of thought form intrusion in vision or the like, is when I went to the egoless state. which is very difficult to hold, in this world. at least it was, for this one.

which is why the shaman avoids external influence and also avoids a complex life. Otherwise the sight is damaged, shifted, and altered.

The best cure is egoic sublimation. The act of having vision itself helps tremendously, as then the ego is sublimated through knowing. the ego spirals down in influence, into something that is much quieter and much less intrusive.

the thing to understand, is that ALL dreaming is a form of temporal vision as from the personal viewpoint...that is occluded by the ego and form-shaping aspects of the connection to the body, through the body, by the body's autonomous systems.

thus the PTB desire to shift our flowing consensus reality through ego, fear, desire, and teleplays, etc

television and media leads to a group commonality in inserted conditions, thus a group hook that can be manipulated.

Before it was war, war..as this tool of commonality insertion... to create the group hook that helps create the condition.... that is utilized/leveraged to have us steer our own consensus reality.

now it is media that is used for this purpose.

I read in one of my dream interpretation books that in Hindu teachings they say that dreams from which one wakes between midnight and 2 am become fulfilled after a year or two, and between 2 am and 4 am within 6 months, and dreams one recalls at waking at the normal get-up time relate to the next 24 hour period. That would confirm your statement here.
Unless the dream is just a release of repressed anxieties, in which case it is not a premonition but the equivalent of a constipated subconscious.
Either one is possible, and people who tend to process their life events quickly and express all anger emotions immediately would fall more into the first category.

[Carmody]

yep, I'm totally with you in that. Larson's physics and the cosmology of the law of one both agree. Three dimensions of time and three dimensions of space with a membrane, or veil, as it were, in between. When my own awakening began, the first thing that impressed me was how time seemed to flow front and back ways on the other side.

yes, but as you know, reading shifts from attempts at belief and understanding...into knowing... and the surety of that..then becomes the root of the transformation itself.

it must be directly experienced on a repeated basis to become the being... and then this whole short term memory thing is enriched by this and such knowing becomes part of the autonomous self and... it flows..with the new, the different..from then on.

Burnt latex rubber stinks. awfully so.

i don't read much stuff from others, at all. I do it on my own. A form of taking a test, coming to my own conclusions then reading answer books... to see if I was right. I figured all this out before (but we forget as we slip into mundane life)..at the same time I was a member of the parapsychology group of Mensa. A shaman stepped forth from the backdrop and mentioned that he was impressed that I figured this out on my own. I told him that logical single cause analysis does have it's place even in these areas, if handled properly. Which is so tough to do... as it's very nature is that of an emotional minefield of the deepest sort possible. I did it that way, on my own... as I wanted no influence or programming that I did not bring to the table.

It was the only way to be sure that what I might be told, when I read the answer book, was a thing of commonality in truth... as opposed to a projection created by being told prior to the event. our problem is the projection and the reflection,which was the whole thing to be avoided. The only way I could be sure as I could that I was not being programmed, was to do it on my own, in totality, in all ways and all connections.

Independent conformation. The cornerstone of scientific proofing methodology.

[PurpleLama]

I found that the same patterns, emerging from the subconscious, kept popping up and applying themselves to the consciousness, so every time I reached the top of my understanding, what started me off would crop up in a new way and so instead of reaching a plateau, I was handed a new mountain. In eleven years, it's never stopped. Reminds me of what was stated earlier, that the self educated are those that never stop learning. I think in this current incarnation, I had a lot of ground to cover in a short period of time, I was supposed to be thirty or so years older at this juncture, but I hit the reset button in a bad way, so I've learned well the lesson of suicide without honor. Not ever doing that again, it only causes problems.

[ulli]

About developing an egoless state...I thought of an analogy once of a scientist who would examine an object under a microscope, with profound interest, and yet emotional detachment. No judgement of any kind, but an exploring mind.
The more one does this the more the self loses it's identification with it's ego and gradually becomes replaced by the observing scientist.
It just takes practice and time.

[Carmody]

OMG! Jacuzzi's ARE a matter of survival!!




First time to post here.
cleaned chicken coop this morning. Partner and I put up nearly a cord of firewood this afternoon.

I'm sitting in the Jacuzzi with epsom salt and Rosemary leaves soaking sore muscles. . . . And a ginger ale and vodka


First Muzz and now blufire ... :welcome: :whoo:

Hey I thought you were ruffin' it up in the mountains in survival mode ... sup with the Jacuzzi??? :shocked:

I would agree. when the monkey is happy, sublimated into stillness..then it gets out of the way, it gets out of 'watchdog-must interpret all first, before any thoughts' (the guardian at the gate) mode, and we can then see more clearly than we normally do.

Which is why the intellectuals at large corporations and companies, might not be willing to tell you that they had their best idea of their life, while the body was distracted..and they were on the crapper/toilet/throne.

[ulli]

yep, I'm totally with you in that. Larson's physics and the cosmology of the law of one both agree. Three dimensions of time and three dimensions of space with a membrane, or veil, as it were, in between. When my own awakening began, the first thing that impressed me was how time seemed to flow front and back ways on the other side.

yes, but as you know, reading shifts from attempts at belief and understanding...into knowing... and the surety of that..then becomes the root of the transformation itself.

it must be directly experienced on a repeated basis to become the being... and then this whole short term memory thing is enriched by this and such knowing becomes part of the autonomous self and... it flows..with the new, the different..from then on.

Burnt latex rubber stinks. awfully so.

i don't read much stuff from others, at all. I do it on my own. A form of taking a test, coming to my own conclusions then reading answer books... to see if I was right. I figured all this out before (but we forget as we slip into mundane life)..at the same time I was a member of the parapsychology group of Mensa. A shaman stepped forth from the backdrop and mentioned that he was impressed that I figured this out on my own. I told him that logical single cause analysis does have it's place even in these areas, if handled properly. Which is so tough to do... as it's very nature is that of an emotional minefield of the deepest sort possible. I did it that way, on my own... as I wanted no influence or programming that I did not bring to the table.

It was the only way to be sure that what I might be told, when I read the answer book, was a thing of commonality in truth... as opposed to a projection created by being told prior to the event. our problem is the projection and the reflection,which was the whole thing to be avoided. The only way I could be sure as I could that I was not being programmed, was to do it on my own, in totality, in all ways and all connections.

Independent conformation. The cornerstone of scientific proofing methodology.

Interesting what you say about reading. Like you I was quite young when I had my first big download from the higher dimensions, but got depressed after it stopped and especially afterwards when even the memory of it faded gradually. So two years went by.
All I knew was that I was no longer the same person I was before that event in August 1977, but had no idea where to take myself with this knowledge, which I could not even articulate any other way but in terms like "Plus, Minus, and Zero point",...also "balance" and "Both" were major keywords. "Integrate, integrate". I still use those words frequently, but they are not enough to make others see.
So then I got guided to Gurdjieff, and the syncs started big-time. Reading Ouspensky was great as here were the words that put everything I had experienced into perspective.
Like 9eagle9 I devoured enlightenment books, not because I wanted to get the knowledge...I had that I already---it was downloaded into me--, but I wanted the language, the words, with which I could guide people. And there were so many great writers out there who had seen what I had seen.
Sharing these intuitions is very hard, symbols, language, colors, diagrams, music, all are needed.
People who have an understanding of any of these can then be helped, if they really want to wake up, that is.
Which is also why I studied the different religions, so when I meet someone I have a basic background of their understanding.
Then all one has to do is help them integrate the emergencies in their lives.


By the way, as I am sitting here writing the above there is a loud conversation going on behind me, or rather, monologue...
the loud voice of a gun dealer...talking to some tourists...well, he just said he is a gun 'collector', but has become a gun dealer, because he has so many...and and bits like "M16s", and "AK47, you can drive a truck over it and it will still fire" and "I've got three Derringer types" someone now asks about duelling guns......anyway....he says he is a gun collector, he says he has $700,000 worth of guns..
The reason I am sharing this is that as the words were being formulated to write my post here I noticed how many words came out of his mouth just after I thought them...this was weird to me.
Here I am writing about how I can enlighten others to a path of peace and inner power, and there outside of me is such a conversation happening...Here and Now. Make of it what you will.

[Carmody]

I found that the same patterns, emerging from the subconscious, kept popping up and applying themselves to the consciousness, so every time I reached the top of my understanding, what started me off would crop up in a new way and so instead of reaching a plateau, I was handed a new mountain. In eleven years, it's never stopped. Reminds me of what was stated earlier, that the self educated are those that never stop learning. I think in this current incarnation, I had a lot of ground to cover in a short period of time, I was supposed to be thirty or so years older at this juncture, but I hit the reset button in a bad way, so I've learned well the lesson of suicide without honor. Not ever doing that again, it only causes problems.

I screwed up in the civil war.

Think about it. I killed hundreds. All while trying to keep myself and my compatriots alive. fighting a war I did not believe in, that I was not part of ----and conscripted into. Used as cannon fodder by those in charge of that mess, as they did not want us either, for they believed in their cause/nightmare. First in, first to die. At the end of it all, I started knocking off those who would not hang it up, as if those acts would somehow right that mess to some semblance of --what was before. Thus the following life of self immolation of 40 years on an alien planet.

But then I wonder, did I see 'the outlaw Josey wales' (1976), or pull it from the consensus reality form of the time.... and somehow integrate that?

My simple conformation of the alien life was my recollection of the plants in the fields, that we worked on, and the sun, light, distance from sun, environment, etc. the plants were dark, almost black,and they had a purplish gleam underneath. No green around there. recent scientific speculation on blue dwarf star systems with habitable planets..... states that the plants and fauna on such a habitable planet would have exactly such a consideration. we had thick greyish skin, to deal with the UV.

We never truly know, which is why I took the path of learning this material on my own, before touching any of the literature or speaking to anyone. I had to be sure, as sure as I could be.

Playing now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0jpB_SSgQ). the body creates such a minefield in this complex analysis and situation.

[Carmody]

I read in one of my dream interpretation books that in Hindu teachings they say that dreams from which one wakes between midnight and 2 am become fulfilled after a year or two, and between 2 am and 4 am within 6 months, and dreams one recalls at waking at the normal get-up time relate to the next 24 hour period. That would confirm your statement here.
Unless the dream is just a release of repressed anxieties, in which case it is not a premonition but the equivalent of a constipated subconscious.
Either one is possible, and people who tend to process their life events quickly and express all anger emotions immediately would fall more into the first category.

oddly enough, both statements hold true, it is a matter of interpretation. in a form of consensus reality, we find that anxieties and issue can and do become the envelope expressed by the given egoic imperative personage.

the clarification you have stated thus becomes critical point, if understanding and furthering of the self is to continue on a better road of potential unfolding. Ie, I stated the whole, but the clarification becomes critical. a form of increasing accuracy in a course which may chart a long path.

[astrid]

i just had a dream i was in a Ninja war too tired to detail more.
Tried to post from my iphone and its not connecting to the web.
But it was a long and bloody battle,
the side i was on won in the end by calling in extra help from the animal kingdom.

More sleep.

[ulli]

I read in one of my dream interpretation books that in Hindu teachings they say that dreams from which one wakes between midnight and 2 am become fulfilled after a year or two, and between 2 am and 4 am within 6 months, and dreams one recalls at waking at the normal get-up time relate to the next 24 hour period. That would confirm your statement here.
Unless the dream is just a release of repressed anxieties, in which case it is not a premonition but the equivalent of a constipated subconscious.
Either one is possible, and people who tend to process their life events quickly and express all anger emotions immediately would fall more into the first category.

oddly enough, both statements hold true, it is a matter of interpretation. in a form of consensus reality, we find that anxieties and issue can and do become the envelope expressed by the given egoic imperative personage.

the clarification you have stated thus becomes critical point, if understanding and furthering of the self is to continue on a better road of potential unfolding. Ie, I stated the whole, but the clarification becomes critical. a form of increasing accuracy in a course which may chart a long path.

which is where Virgo detail consciousness is so important...near the zero point precision becomes vital...or everything just slips into mediocrity and no energy release takes place. That's when everything fizzles.
But on the other hand,at such a delicate junction a spiritual person can get guidance and help from higher beings...and then love trumps mind and precision every time

[Carmody]

the word Keylontic (http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/) has kept coming into my mind for the past hour or so. Know I know why.

the meaning of the word, nothing else-is all I'm indicating. I'm not into joining. ever. recollect my, uh, er, recollection from my two past lives. You might see a pattern of not leaning too much toward the joining of anything. :p Not thrilled with the idea.....

Burned pretty bad within those ones, as far as a backdrop of 'experience' goes.

http://fwnextweb1.fortwayne.com/ns/editorial/oa/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/larson-devil1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/TarheelJoe/Far%20Side/GodSprinklesJerks.jpg

[9eagle9]

If what you say is true then I should expect to be having a run in with a fire dragon here shortly. Am hoping its not some flippy dippy shifting episode...I don't have nightime dream recall typically so the ones I do recall I take note of for possible signifcance. I have to do most of my dreamwork while napping during the day th eonly way I can remember it. I sleep like a dead thing at night. Last night (this morning actually) I was taken out by some old medicine man of some polynesian persuasion (something i'm not familar with at all, indengenous polynesian medicine ) to a jetty sticking out into the ocean. A place I've been too a lot in my dream life because I've journaled it so much. The area in the water just beyond the jetty had some particular signficance and a name of which I'm unable to recall. A fallah? At any rate there is where go to watch for dragons and there happened to be one in the water just off the Jetty. Fire dragon, composed entirely of flames .....very cool. Have no idea... Considering some aspect of me is a dragon I'm wondering if I need to watch for this expression in my life or another dragon this way comes.




I also never received a college degree, however I did receive accreditation from "the School of Light Beings" thanks to my hokey ol' reiki teacher. Seriously, though, what interests me can't be taught in school, at least in Miss'ippi, that being the occult. So dropping out (for monetary reasons) afforded me time to delve deeply into that subject, and it's great because after a certain point the universe takes you as it's pupil and the education rightly exceeds anything that has been recorded in any textbook, or grimoire, for that matter.

I just had a series of dream sequences that illustrated to me clearly that "the first shall be last and the last shall be first", as in the last dream before waking will be the clearest and the last dream will also be the first in linear time.

which is what you experienced here the other day. the last thing you dreamed was the first thing you saw.

The story out there has been that we see our dreams in reverse, and I think I can confirm that. Mirror universe. Which takes us to Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five and Ben Bova's 'Orion' series of books, and Benjamin Button, etc..

I know all this already, I'm just remembering it again.

I might relate it, but I'll just say that burning rubber stinks and is difficult to clean up. I forgot something on the stove, turned the wrong burner on to heat up the kettle for coffee.. and started a fire. first thing in the morning. Ugh.

And that everything we see in dreams is entirely symbolic of our formation association with it's thought form.

The more feelings oriented or connected the issue is, the more the emotions color the thought form and shift/alter it.

the only time I've EVER been 100% clear of thought form intrusion in vision or the like, is when I went to the egoless state. which is very difficult to hold, in this world. at least it was, for this one.

which is why the shaman avoids external influence and also avoids a complex life. Otherwise the sight is damaged, shifted, and altered.

The best cure is egoic sublimation. The act of having vision itself helps tremendously, as then the ego is sublimated through knowing. the ego spirals down in influence, into something that is much quieter and much less intrusive.

the thing to understand, is that ALL dreaming is a form of temporal vision as from the personal viewpoint...that is occluded by the ego and form-shaping aspects of the connection to the body, through the body, by the body's autonomous systems.

thus the PTB desire to shift our flowing consensus reality through ego, fear, desire, and teleplays, etc

television and media leads to a group commonality in inserted conditions, thus a group hook that can be manipulated.

Before it was war, war..as this tool of commonality insertion... to create the group hook that helps create the condition.... that is utilized/leveraged to have us steer our own consensus reality.

now it is media that is used for this purpose.

I read in one of my dream interpretation books that in Hindu teachings they say that dreams from which one wakes between midnight and 2 am become fulfilled after a year or two, and between 2 am and 4 am within 6 months, and dreams one recalls at waking at the normal get-up time relate to the next 24 hour period. That would confirm your statement here.
Unless the dream is just a release of repressed anxieties, in which case it is not a premonition but the equivalent of a constipated subconscious.
Either one is possible, and people who tend to process their life events quickly and express all anger emotions immediately would fall more into the first category.

[ulli]

the word Keylontic (http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/) has kept coming into my mind for the past hour or so. Know I know why.

the meaning of the word, nothing else-is all I'm indicating. I'm not into joining. ever. recollect my, uh, er, recollection from my two past lives. You might see a pattern of not leaning too much toward the joining of anything. :p Not thrilled with the idea.....

Burned pretty bad within those ones, as far as a backdrop of 'experience' goes.

http://fwnextweb1.fortwayne.com/ns/editorial/oa/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/larson-devil1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/TarheelJoe/Far%20Side/GodSprinklesJerks.jpg


I love those Gary Larson cartoons...the island food here has a lot of jerk seasoning...you have just given me an idea (bad Carmody)
but this morning at around 6:30 I heard a car crash, and I threw on a dress, grabbed my cell phone and ran outside to see if I needed to call an ambulance

Anyway, there was a car at the end of our drive, dented in front and the back. Driver and two passengers, all males. Suspicious looking. I asked if anyone was hurt, and if there was a second vehicle involved. He said that the other car came at them on the wrong side of the road, forced them against the rocks, which was the noise I heard, and then just drove on. He had a cell phone and was calling his insurance agent. No mention of the police.
I left as soon as I realized that I was not really needed, but was convinced they had been speeding...and what were they doing on a Sunday morning at that hour anyway? Didn't look to me like three guys out to go fishing...which would have been a legitimate past time.

I went back home thinking there were too many jerks in the world. Gary Larson helped to create them, doing drawings like that means manifesting that vision in 3 D.

[ulli]

@ Carmody
The only org I ever joined was the Baha'i faith, and even that I did reluctantly.
Even signing up so I could post at Avalon was already giving me the creeps.
Astrologically this has to do with Uranus in the 11th house, which we both share.
This means that whatever group one belongs to one feels one has to reform and change it.
One also collects weirdo friends.
This thread is an example of an 11th house Uranus, because we aren't really discussing whistle blower topics,
which is basically the Avalon forum's purpose. Here anything goes, self moderation is the key.
Here we can discuss spear head science ideas as well as dreams and visions, and still be respected,
with no one countering anything, as nothing is presented with the aim of creating converts.
The ideal village.

[Lisab]

I once had the most vivid dream of a life as a Mongolian chief. My men and I had arrived back from a battle with (I think) another village. Snow lay thick. My men dismounted their horses and waited with the women and children as I came slowly and lastly into the village on a white and brown speckled horse. Everyone was quiet. They parted for me as, still on my horse, I moved through them and then turned to face them. I pulled as sabre like sword from my belt, held it high, and then lifted my other arm up and cut it with the sword deeply. As the blood flowed everybody cheered. The battle had been a success. Ive never had a dream like it before or since. It was so real.