Here and Now...What's Happening?

[eaglespirit]

Either one is possible, and people who tend to process their life events quickly and express all anger emotions immediately would fall more into the first category.

...and I relate to that and live it as a natural flow...thanks Ulli and All!!!

Once again...wonderful sharings going on...and I suspect alot of People on the forum are looking on and in to Here and Now and that is a very good thing!

My solar meditation practices of the last 5 years has brought 'light' to my own life in oh so many ways...as I am also not much for guru brew or reading to get "it" but must dive in myself and then pull the pieces together with follow up research if needed...but I personally must touch it and feel it in some way, shape or form first!
Aho!

[Lisab]

Two days ago my ex's mother's partner's mother died aged, wait for it, 106! One hundred and six years old! And she was the most inspiring lady I have ever met. To my little one she was a great grandmother (albeit step..ahh extended families) and they were close. She still lived in her own home, surfed the internet, followed the tennis ( she loved the Williams sisters) and never ever spoke about the war. If you brought it up she would say ' time to let all that go now'. Wise. She would beat you at Jenga and still rode a bike and went abroad well into her nineties.
When she turned 100 I went to her party, she had four parties thrown for her in a week and was in the local press. I remember as it got late at the restaurant somebody said while looking at her, I think we'd better go now and Nanny Nora, as my little un called her, said 'why are you tired my dear'!!! Awesome. But there was her secret right there she just never looked back.

[ulli]

Two days ago my ex's mother's partner's mother died aged, wait for it, 106! One hundred and six years old! And she was the most inspiring lady I have ever met. To my little one she was a great grandmother (albeit step..ahh extended families) and they were close. She still lived in her own home, surfed the internet, followed the tennis ( she loved the Williams sisters) and never ever spoke about the war. If you brought it up she would say ' time to let all that go now'. Wise. She would beat you at Jenga and still rode a bike and went abroad well into her nineties.
When she turned 100 I went to her party, she had four parties thrown for her in a week and was in the local press. I remember as it got late at the restaurant somebody said while looking at her, I think we'd better go now and Nanny Nora, as my little un called her, said 'why are you tired my dear'!!! Awesome. But there was her secret right there she just never looked back.

My question is, would she now be needing Carmody's services or would she be able to get oriented all by herself?

[PurpleLama]

@eaglespirit

the solar element is very important. Several times you've mentioned it, and I've always gotten side tracked before responding. A few years ago I was hanging out with hermes and he taught me to form the caduces within the body.

first you focus on the sun. Then, with the inbreath, you breath in the light through the forehead. It helps if you have actual sunlight, but with practice visualization works too. Ok, so you breathe in the sun, and pull the light down the front of the body, to the root, where it turns and goes up the spine, reachin the top of the head where it exits the body and returns to the sun.

second, once the flow is established, start collecting light from the flow into the root to form the sun *inside you at the base chakra*, the flow upwards is not diminished as it is an infinite source and with the collection the intake is increased as well, the balance here is important, upon the completion of the sun in the root move the attention to the heart center and repeat the process forming a second sun in the heart, then a third time forming the sun in the head.

thirdly, the perspective is made where the lower sun drops below, this being the connection to earth, and the higher sun moves up to be the sun above, which it is in truth, while you stay with the central sun, which is also true, and the most profound, and yet the three are one and you, yet they are a staff whereby earth connects to heaven

fourth, the hands are put together before the heart and the light of that sun is poured into the hands and out the fingers which are pointed beneath the chin aimed to the center of the head, where is seen the pinecone of light, and you see the pine cone within the head, and seen together with the entire self within the pinecone at the same time, holding both, what is within you are within and what you are is also that which is without

with the completion of the prior step, the fifth and last step happens almost automatically, as the within/without finds the balance, the inward downward flow begins to move in a circular fashion, becoming a downward spiral and the movement reaches the root and spins then the other way spiraling back upward, forming the caduces as exits the head, forming a double helix, or torsion field.

I practiced this several times a day for a few years after I was given it in '08. Progressively the steps became more and more habit until I was pretty much doing the whole thing instantly, and now I can't even stop it every time the sun shines on my face.

anyway, this has been a source of great help and healing, and most of all, Fun.

[Lisab]

Ive been thinking about that. She was a very religious lady. Right up to her death she was very involved with the church and was constantly raising money for the church and homeless etc. She was strong, capable and determined in this life. Her beliefs differed from mine but it was still ultimately source. Her conviction never wavered and kept her strong. I really dont know if she would need Carmody's help Ulli but strangely the last week or so I have actually had two dreams where Im talking to carmody. No face just talking, but for life of me I cant remember the conversation.

By the way I love that photo of you Ulli. Gorgeous.

[1derer]

Hi All, I just wanted to share my dream...

I was showing a friend the sun and a second Sun at the five o'clock position to our Sun, behind the clouds, and met some kids - around 6-7 of them and a baby that was only a few months old with one of them.

It got real dark and grey and then it started to rain.

Suddenly, I experienced an Earthquake and it was so strong, I felt as if the building were falling (it was a high rise building).

I came running out from another room and told the young kids that an earthquake was taking place and it felt like a Mag 9.0, but they assured me the building would not fall and it was only a Mag 8.0!!

All was calm thereafter, but I was jolted awake by the dream, prompting me to write it down, and even check the www.usgs.gov website, though I was relieved to see there were no major quakes.

Today, I saw a news item on CNN, with the presenter talking about quakes in New Zealand! the presenter mentioned that Mag 8.0 quakes happen there every hundred years or so, and this made me feel better too.

I even went on Avalon Chat to discuss it, and the result was that the dream could be interpreted as major upheaval in personal life, and my perception is not as worrying as I perceive it to be, hence the 'downgrading' of Mag 9.0 to Mag 8.0...!! Thanks to those who talked to me about it.

Each major house move in my life was accompanied by an earthquake dream.
Sad periods come with wave and tsunami dreams. Once I dreamt of a lake flooding and the water went through a house and even crashed the front windows open from the inside...the next day was a tear day for me. Symbols.
Frustration and anger periods have volcano dreams.

I will have to move in January too! Interesting ideas for me to consider,and I am glad this lovely blue planet Mother Gaia will not have a Mag 8.0 quake and that the shaking and a-moving is just my own perspective!

1derer

[Lisab]

So cool to see Muzz here and lots of new faces. Im lovin' it. Sad for Gaia though. My heart goes out to her.

[ulli]

Hi All, I just wanted to share my dream...

I was showing a friend the sun and a second Sun at the five o'clock position to our Sun, behind the clouds, and met some kids - around 6-7 of them and a baby that was only a few months old with one of them.

It got real dark and grey and then it started to rain.

Suddenly, I experienced an Earthquake and it was so strong, I felt as if the building were falling (it was a high rise building).

I came running out from another room and told the young kids that an earthquake was taking place and it felt like a Mag 9.0, but they assured me the building would not fall and it was only a Mag 8.0!!

All was calm thereafter, but I was jolted awake by the dream, prompting me to write it down, and even check the www.usgs.gov website, though I was relieved to see there were no major quakes.

Today, I saw a news item on CNN, with the presenter talking about quakes in New Zealand! the presenter mentioned that Mag 8.0 quakes happen there every hundred years or so, and this made me feel better too.

I even went on Avalon Chat to discuss it, and the result was that the dream could be interpreted as major upheaval in personal life, and my perception is not as worrying as I perceive it to be, hence the 'downgrading' of Mag 9.0 to Mag 8.0...!! Thanks to those who talked to me about it.

Each major house move in my life was accompanied by an earthquake dream.
Sad periods come with wave and tsunami dreams. Once I dreamt of a lake flooding and the water went through a house and even crashed the front windows open from the inside...the next day was a tear day for me. Symbols.
Frustration and anger periods have volcano dreams.

I will have to move in January too! Interesting ideas for me to consider,and I am glad this lovely blue planet Mother Gaia will not have a Mag 8.0 quake and that the shaking and a-moving is just my own perspective!

1derer

Just think of it this way, a house move is the destruction of a home, and creation of a new life.
An ending of a life,....specific habits, which are to do with the geography of the place.
Then comes the moment when all is on a truck...I call that the 'vortex moment'.
After that the fresh start. I would create my new home area by area. If possible I would stretch the move out a bit over several days.
Day 1: Move only the beds, clothes, bathroom things. Get everything unpacked and make (a) cozy bedroom/s. Evening meal is fast food.
Day 2: The Kitchen. Again, unpack everything, and try to make the kitchen as perfect as possible. Take the empty boxes back the next day.
Day 3: Pack books, CDs, TV, pictures and living room stuff. Maybe get the dining room moved as well. Plan beforehand how the furniture should be arranged so there is a minimum of pushing heavy stuff around.
If there is terrace and garden stuff that comes on the last day.
I always have a hard time accommodating the pictures, so while other people have boxes lying around for weeks after they move, I have no boxes at all. But I always have pictures leaning against the walls, not even sure if I like them enough to put them up.
Good luck with your move. Hope it is an improvement.

[eaglespirit]

Thanks for sharing that...PurpleLama : )
Interesting to note...that I would fairly rapidly 'spin in place' with eyes looking just above horizon after a sungazing meditation when drawn to...
most of the time counter-clockwise(female) and other times clockwise(male)...wonderful exhilaration to finish a meditation of spreading of energy and Mother Earth gratitude that way!
I have done many different methods and mixes of connection processes...which entail some of Your sharing...
I will do that process of Yours, thanks again!
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBXyKWFJIdj9umKDD5vwe8mWQCdZ3BLjzkrKaj4LJ_c6SFCMxtQA

[Carmody]

I once had the most vivid dream of a life as a Mongolian chief. My men and I had arrived back from a battle with (I think) another village. Snow lay thick. My men dismounted their horses and waited with the women and children as I came slowly and lastly into the village on a white and brown speckled horse. Everyone was quiet. They parted for me as, still on my horse, I moved through them and then turned to face them. I pulled as sabre like sword from my belt, held it high, and then lifted my other arm up and cut it with the sword deeply. As the blood flowed everybody cheered. The battle had been a success. Ive never had a dream like it before or since. It was so real.


I first misread Mongolian CHEF. then I thought, cooks going into battle?...better go back....

Cool! I said. I could use a good down home meal. Mom'n'Pop type greasy spoons are still the best restaurants in the world.


As for those dreams of hyper reality, Micheal Newton speak on that in his books. He says that we have only so much room to carry our prior lives around. We must pick our moments.

the civil war one is all generalizations and limited data, like the inconsistency of normal dreams. same for the Alien one. Even though I do recall living them from birth to death, in each case. But as memories go, they happened to about 33-34 years ago.

The Egyptian one is HYPER real, as it is all one day. The last day of my life, I only kept the one memory of it. That one was about..9 years back, in this timeframe, as a recall goes. So if hypnotized, I could give a full accounting of the passages under the sands that go to the underside of the main pyramid.... Down into the deep chambers below.

Besides telling you the dress codes and specifics of the garb of such people and times.

[Lisab]

Mongolian chef!! That made me laugh out loud.

[Lisab]

By the way this Michael Newton keeps cropping up lately. I havnt read any of his books so looks like I should.

[PurpleLama]

Beware the awesome, terrible glory of the SPORK.

[ulli]

Ok, Here is Ulli's Here and Now. This shows what happens when Ulli feels frivolous and gets distracted.

Following LisaB's lead I decided to google Michael Newton, read the Wiki entry and didn't find anything stimulating....in fact got bored reading about him...but then
I saw the name Wayne Newton.
Always found this guy quite awful without knowing much about him, and so I got curious why I always felt such an aversion, so I wikied him, too.
And lo and behold, I was amazed. Talk about having a messy life....wow
Have a look at this (From Wikipedia on Wayne Newton):
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[ulli]

OK...I deleted it again.
The dirt on Wayne Newton will ruin a good thread...
like I said, I was having a frivolous moment.

[Carmody]

By the way this Michael Newton keeps cropping up lately. I havnt read any of his books so looks like I should.

Journey of souls (http://books.google.ca/books?id=Psk6tJq1ybQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=michael+newton&hl=en&ei=urjSTuLFL6bf0QHY-ukW&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=michael%20newton&f=false)

Destiny of Souls (http://books.google.ca/books?id=NcGklVFxLloC&printsec=frontcover&dq=michael+newton&hl=en&ei=urjSTuLFL6bf0QHY-ukW&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=1&ved=0CEAQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=michael%20newton&f=false)


Previews of his first two books.

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Beware the awesome, terrible glory of the SPORK.

Pencils work good too.

(if you won't explain your remark, I won't explain mine) (mine is not pretty)

I'm thinking you are speaking of the blended human as the single modern replacement for the individual utensils.

[Lisab]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

[dan33]

I've read this morning a post from astrid on

Re: Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings
Let's not forget Smudge Sticks.



Mostly they are made with White Sage and or sweet grass,

but they can contain other herbs like rosemary.

They work a treat.

And feeling drained after being online?

Rinse your hands and arms up to the elbow in cool water,

and you will find that your energy quickly returns.

Most important also, is to fear not,

like attracts like and fear will bring these entites into your field.

I don't view them as negative, more just having lower vibration.

Keep your vibration high and they are rarely an issue.

(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21614-Parasitic-Non-Organic-Multidimensional-Beings/page4)

I've found it very interesting. The internet-energy interaction, could high you or suck you? Is there a Highway of energy the moment you step in into the forum ?

Thanks astrid and everyone.

[PurpleLama]

Ok, speaking of Newton and sporks, having read some of his work, years ago, people describing various future time lines almost always had one thing in common, that being the description of an eating utinsel possessing the characteristics of a spoon and a fork. Sooo, some time later when I had let my mind wander in a high energy environment, it struck me that there was one thing binding all time and space together, that being the spork. This realization was accompanied by a vision of a slowly rotating spork surrounded with golden light and set with angelic choir noises. It made me laugh out loud and consequently I had to explain what was so funny, which mainly just got me funny looks all around. Not the first time for that. :)

Sooo, what about pencils working great, too?

[Carmody]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

[Carmody]

Sooo, what about pencils working great, too?

When I speak to some people on an extended basis, with story after story..for the purposes of life lesson reflection....I start telling them 'lesson' stories from my childhood and those of my relatives. Some of them are down right scary.

The spork-pencil one involves a setting of a prison.... for the criminally insane. Best leave that one alone. :)

[dan33]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

From 2 or three months ago, my dreams are a mess. Always travelling, bus, underground, train, airplaine..... airports, underground stations, highways, ..... I wake up sweating and my heart beating fast.

Carmody and Lisab, thanks.

[ulli]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

From 2 or three monyhs ago, my dreams are a mess. Always travelling, bus, underground, train, airplaine..... airports, underground stations, highways, ..... I wake up sweating and my heart beating fast.

Carmody and Lisab, thanks.

That means your inner seeker is really waking up.
Travel is Jupiter/Sagittarius, which at dream level means expansion through learning of higher truths.
The more desperate the soul in it's search the closer the moment of enlightenment.

[eaglespirit]

Something rather interesting Here and Nowers...
I have been feeling more detached but connected lately...in an empowering yet humble way.
Feeling like I am looking "over" the earth yet still moving along in the body and all seems to be coming and going in a symposium sort of way.
Is it a 'higher self' connection getting stronger and more palatable?...
I am sure You All have felt this in Your Own Ways...but is it becoming Becoming...are We that close to leaving the Cocoon?
...just spiritreality rambling...
Felt the urge to share!

[Carmody]

Something rather interesting Here and Nowers...
I have been feeling more detached but connected lately...in an empowering yet humble way.
Feeling like I am looking "over" the earth yet still moving along in the body and all seems to be coming and going in a symposium sort of way.
Is it a 'higher self' connection getting stronger and more palatable?...
I am sure You All have felt this in Your Own Ways...but is it becoming Becoming...are We that close to leaving the Cocoon?
...just spiritreality rambling...
Felt the urge to share!

the world seems to be going crazy right now, but as usual, things evolve in some form of balance, even if they seem imbalanced. People are waking up at the same rate that the system is looking to close the door on them.

for example, this looks like it might have too much traction in the morrow, regarding US politics and law.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being

If this goes through, I can't imagine that it would go unnoticed by the public, even if the interpretation is that they (the public) are asleep.

The population of the US is ready to explode and I do believe that more of them...than most would think...do indeed understand that the problem is in government and not in some foreign country.

Last time it was 'too late' for the public. This time it is likely to be the other way around. Just my opinion and feeling. But I've dedicated my life to feeling the undercurrent of the flow and life of the North American continent, and the world, through knowing the mental construction of humans.

I've heard of people realizing that they must turn and do the unexpected to end a complex situation. Ie, turn and love instead of run, to end a complex situation-if that is the required response, for that situation. That they must realize that something inside of them is on a hamster wheel and it must end. They must find the core of it in themselves and turn it around. To BE change, effective change.

I first did this when I was 4 years old. I actually completed that particular life task - back then.

Then it got tough.

Next lesson.

[dan33]

Here and now have just given myself a delicious reiki bath.
More Peter Sellers Dan!! I want to get What's New Pussycat too now Ulli. Im sure he was a Pisces, am I correct Ulli. Great mimic. xxx



http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=DKomuOBw-24



Saludos, Lisab :)

another lesson in (on) accents... by Peter Sellers :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THKRsrv1GYY

---Ha sido un placer hablar con todos ustedes. -------

[Carmody]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

To clarify, the uniqueness is seemingly in the origins, the setting, the timing, and the pattern, IMO.

My favorite Sellers flick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfWvWRqrAig&feature=related

[Calz]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

I would hazard to guess that American's are also subjected to more and deeper levels of mind control than any other country as well???

Would you concur?

[Carmody]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

I would hazard to guess that American's are also subjected to more and deeper levels of mind control than any other country as well???

Would you concur?

I clarified, above.

Possibly so.

My friend, a historian, stated it as being something like American being 'One giant experiment in Contract Law', which is something, some might say... that is outside of Morals and ethics.

Therein lies the core difference, compared to other other erections and edifices. Rule of Law, but based and flowing through a system of contract law.

changes in law enacted in order to respond to the conditions and demands of a public, not before.

Now, America's 'rule of law' is responding to or by legal changes before the reaction. This is a big difference. A fundamental difference.

I don't think that the people are failing to notice, even though this part is escaping them on the conscious front.

They've got an itch ....that they cannot scratch but they don't know where it is. This is where it lies, in some ways.

Imperial rule was always, seemingly, about heading the people off, by imposition before the act. IMO and IME...America has a history of (social) legal contracts arsing after the issue has arisen, not before.

The case of false flags is all about the creation of the issue so the imposition of legal social contract can do as it always done.

eg, the introduction of the term 'false flag' in the lexicon of language and the general knowledge base ...does have something to say about this rising awareness.

In the wold in general, in history, the false flag has always been, but always done under the frameworks of a certain imperialism that was evident in the general political and social situations.

in the case of America and it's social contract law of conflict resolution, as a form of history, this change to legal imposition before the act or situation is evident, is a notable change that people seem to sense in some way.

There is a break in the continuance, that happened to change gears quite fast, after about 1970 and the rise of protest of the Vietnam war and the strength of unions. Then the desire to control, to decree a downward spiral of slow destruction of America, this really took off at that time. that the bad guys really woke up and got organized and started playing with things in very serious ways with strong hidden psychological considerations of attempting to change the undercurrent, and thus...the effective value expressed within the system.

The back history is one where happenstance creates the need for the laws... and this simple but fundamental aspect has been violated and corrupted. America worked..as it was about resolution.

Now, it is about imposition --- which is imperialism.

Americans unfamiliar with it's origins do not know that the problem seemingly started with the invasion of the presidential offices as this was the only short cut that could even be approached to gain entry to violate the rule of law that was put in place. A system of checks and balances between congress and the executive office.

for a while, the evil components were satisfied to use the executive office to impose upon the world at large. All the while, they began working on their take over of the internal mechanism, that of congress and the senate. The long plan for killing off the engine that has fed them.

Now that the vehicle has been used up, they turn to taking over the internal population's understanding of resolution via social contract, contract law.... and using a change to internal imperialism to enact this final destruction of the vehicle that has given them this ride of running all over the world in a form of imperialistic destruction.

[dan33]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

From 2 or three monyhs ago, my dreams are a mess. Always travelling, bus, underground, train, airplaine..... airports, underground stations, highways, ..... I wake up sweating and my heart beating fast.

Carmody and Lisab, thanks.

That means your inner seeker is really waking up.
Travel is Jupiter/Sagittarius, which at dream level means expansion through learning of higher truths.
The more desperate the soul in it's search the closer the moment of enlightenment.

:) Thanks.

But sometimes, my another Dan33 says " forget about this all stuff..... you know Daniel, every year it's the same....... nothing.. ...and i hate religions, ....

[Cottage Rose]

I am now at post #3487 in my process of catching up with the thread. Due to my current state of mind I have not logged in often lately. Several of Carmody's and other's posts have been most helpful.

I see my mineral question has gone unanswered. I knew it was off topic when I posted it. But, I would like to say, because this thread prompted me to write that obscure stream of consciousness question, I received a personal eureka I have been searching for. Thanks for that. Wonderful how things can work in mysterious ways.

The frames are great Ulli and glad you posted the new avatar. Every little bit of information helps in learning to trust people.... a difficult process for those of us who have been burned on internet forums and intrinsically of a reserved nature. Would you please call me Rose? Cottage Rose feels like a past incarnation now.

I am complete agreement regarding the necessity of a Jacuzzi, spending more time in one than a human probably should. The well water here is very soft. I actually feel like a fish out of water if I am away too long.

Regarding higher education, my first teacher wrote that I rushed through my work to get on to activities of more interest. I was in a program to take college level math/science courses my last two years of high school. Consequently, I had all my necessary credits early. True to form, I opted for half days in the last year instead of more classes in order to participate in "activities of more interest". Feeling cooped up in large groups has always been an excrutiating experience. I never returned to any formal education. My fondest educational memory was a year when I was allowed to skip regular English studies to write and produce plays for the class. I guess I have been involved in writing and producing my life ever since then.

[Lord Sidious]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

I would hazard to guess that American's are also subjected to more and deeper levels of mind control than any other country as well???

Would you concur?

I would disagree strongly.
I would say there is a tie for equal first spot.
The Germans and the Jewish people.
Yet again, we find them both locked together in the one paradigm.


Hello Rose, good to see you around again.

[Calz]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

I would hazard to guess that American's are also subjected to more and deeper levels of mind control than any other country as well???

Would you concur?

I would disagree strongly.
I would say there is a tie for equal first spot.
The Germans and the Jewish people.
Yet again, we find them both locked together in the one paradigm.


Hello Rose, good to see you around again.


Interesting ... can you elaborate a bit?

Not that I don't understand the German/Jewish paradigm but rather those societies being under more mind control than Americans.

[Lord Sidious]

The critical part to understand about America... is that it has a history of freedom.

The understanding of the people within it's borders is not one of slavery but slavery as an issue that turned into freedom. No matter how messy it may appear or seem to remain as.

America is a stirred pot of issues... where the pot has never stopped being stirred, and that is a big difference, IMO, than as compared to just about any other country that I can think of, now or in the history of this planet.

I would hazard to guess that American's are also subjected to more and deeper levels of mind control than any other country as well???

Would you concur?

I would disagree strongly.
I would say there is a tie for equal first spot.
The Germans and the Jewish people.
Yet again, we find them both locked together in the one paradigm.


Hello Rose, good to see you around again.


Interesting ... can you elaborate a bit?

Not that I don't understand the German/Jewish paradigm but rather those societies being under more mind control than Americans.

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

[Carmody]

yep, I'm totally with you in that. Larson's physics and the cosmology of the law of one both agree. Three dimensions of time and three dimensions of space with a membrane, or veil, as it were, in between. When my own awakening began, the first thing that impressed me was how time seemed to flow front and back ways on the other side.

Mathematics: Mapping a fixed point

Take a map of the world. Now put it down on the ground in Central Park, against a rock on Mount Everest, or on your kitchen table; there will always be a point on the map that sits exactly on the actual physical place it represents. Obvious? Not for mathematicians. A more complex theorem, called a “fixed point theorem,” has eluded them since 1963. “Some ideas seem evident to the human mind, but in reality involve complicated concepts that are difficult to demonstrate mathematically,” says Nicolas Monod, head of EPFL’s Chair of Ergodic and Geometric Group Theory. It turns out that the answer was there all along, simple and elegant. To reach it, the team of mathematicians had take a different approach to the problem. Their discovery will impress their fellow mathematicians, of course; but on the longer term, it also will be of interest to physicists and economists.

Surprisingly, this theorem works for all kinds of maps, from a diagram of a metro route to a map of spaces used in quantum physics. But to prove it, a fixed point must be found for every possible case. Since the number of possible maps is infinite, the mathematicians were looking for a universal, purely mathematical method -- one that would work in any situation.

The challenge for the mathematicians was to find that fixed point. It was a bit like designing a method that could pinpoint the center of gravity of any object, real or purely mathematical. It seemed like an impossible task for the specialists. “That’s why this approach hadn’t been more fully explored,” Monod explains. “It was in thinking about another space and exchanging our ideas that we realized that we actually could find that center of gravity.” It was possible to determine it in a parallel space. The center of gravity was definitely there ... but outside the space you started from. It was a counterintuitive result, but one that allowed them to prove the theorem.

In 2008, a thirty-page article, full of technical jargon, almost arrived at a proof. Even Barry Edward Johnson, who formulated the theorem and worked hard to find a proof all the way up to his death in 2002, was ultimately unsuccessful. Today, the proof is only a few pages long. In addition to the indisputable intellectual satisfaction this elegant result represents, it also opens up long-term perspectives in other disciplines; theories in physics and economics, for example, both make use of the idea of fixed points.

More information: A fixed point theorem for L1 spaces, U. Bader, T. Gelander, N. Monod, Inventiones Mathematicae, 28 October 2011.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/fv17437n8v104867/fulltext.pdf

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

the important bit:

“That’s why this approach hadn’t been more fully explored,” Monod explains. “It was in thinking about another space and exchanging our ideas that we realized that we actually could find that center of gravity.” It was possible to determine it in a parallel space. The center of gravity was definitely there ... but outside the space you started from. It was a counterintuitive result, but one that allowed them to prove the theorem.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Or:

Looking outside of the self in the parallel space, we find the center of the self and connection to all.

Proper math, is as valid as any other language. Mathematics has just proven this enlightenment axiom, according to it's own criteria.

We still the self, and then the presence of the self comes through..into the center of self..as the connection of self to all.

So..we look at the math and say: Yo! What he said! Word!

[modwiz]

I am now at post #3487 in my process of catching up with the thread. Due to my current state of mind I have not logged in often lately. Several of Carmody's and other's posts have been most helpful.

I see my mineral question has gone unanswered. I knew it was off topic when I posted it. But, I would like to say, because this thread prompted me to write that obscure stream of consciousness question, I received a personal eureka I have been searching for. Thanks for that. Wonderful how things can work in mysterious ways.

The frames are great Ulli and glad you posted the new avatar. Every little bit of information helps in learning to trust people.... a difficult process for those of us who have been burned on internet forums and intrinsically of a reserved nature. Would you please call me Rose? Cottage Rose feels like a past incarnation now.

I am complete agreement regarding the necessity of a Jacuzzi, spending more time in one than a human probably should. The well water here is very soft. I actually feel like a fish out of water if I am away too long.

Regarding higher education, my first teacher wrote that I rushed through my work to get on to activities of more interest. I was in a program to take college level math/science courses my last two years of high school. Consequently, I had all my necessary credits early. True to form, I opted for half days in the last year instead of more classes in order to participate in "activities of more interest". Feeling cooped up in large groups has always been an excrutiating experience. I never returned to any formal education. My fondest educational memory was a year when I was allowed to skip regular English studies to write and produce plays for the class. I guess I have been involved in writing and producing my life ever since then.

I researched sandstone last night. Certain stones find their true therapeutic expression in the form of gem elixirs and sandstone is one of those. It is great for helping living tissue regain lost elasticity. Very helpful in any hardening of skin, like after a bad burn, and also the arteries. It would also work for general youthfulness of skin, adding some of it to a quality face cream or milk would be a very good use of it.

As an environment enhancer it might have some influence with flexibility of certain mind constructs. Mind you, this last piece is my own extrapolation, but it did 'come' to me as I was writing this.

The primary application of sandstone is softening of tissue.

Yes, Rose, it is good to see you again. Especially here in the 'village'.

[Calz]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.


Understood.

Cannot something be said for the "other side of the coin" though?

What about a lifetime of brainwashed indoctrination about Americans being the "saviours" of the world ... the good guys. Bastion of freedom. We must "save" the world from communism (kettle/black) and dictators.

The liberated world will throw rose petals at the feet of the glorious American troops marching through the streets bringing demon'acracy.


Anyway what is so clear to most all the world (at least regarding what amounts to nothing more than naked agression) remains complete fiction to a vast majority of Americans.

"They hate us for our freedoms" ... no they hate us because of the death, destruction and tryanny we spread throughout the world. Scant few in this country get that. I am witness to this first hand and as mind numbing as it appears I have to attribute it to a remarkably effective program of mind control.

I simply have no other explanation.

Perhaps you are correct in that the Germans and Jews are on a par or more subjected ... but I don't think it could be much more severe. Just of a different nature.


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[modwiz]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.


Understood.

Cannot something be said for the "other side of the coin" though?

What about a lifetime of brainwashed indoctrination about American being the "saviours" of the world ... the good guys. Bastion of freedom. We must "save" the world from communism (kettle/black) and dictators.

The liberated world will throw rose petals at the feet of the glorious American troops marching through the streets bringing demon'acracy.


Anyway what is so clear to most all the world (at least regarding what amounts to nothing more than naked agression) remains complete fiction to a vast majority of Americans.

"They hate us for our freedoms" ... no they hate us because of the death, destruction and tryanny we spread throughout the world. Scant few in this country get that. I am witness to this first hand and as mind numbing as it appears I have to attribute it to a remarkably effective program of mind control.

I simply have no other explanation.

Perhaps you are correct in that the Germans and Jews are on a par or more subjected ... but I don't think it could be much more severe. Just of a different nature.


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Every point you make is valid Calz, as is Lord Sid's. I said it once before somewhere on this forum though, the ones who actually did 9/11 do hate us for our freedoms. That is why they did 9/11 and enacted a piece of legislation already written, The Patriot Act. They do hate our freedom and try to take more of it everyday.

[Lord Sidious]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.


Understood.

Cannot something be said for the "other side of the coin" though?

What about a lifetime of brainwashed indoctrination about Americans being the "saviours" of the world ... the good guys. Bastion of freedom. We must "save" the world from communism (kettle/black) and dictators.

The liberated world will throw rose petals at the feet of the glorious American troops marching through the streets bringing demon'acracy.


Anyway what is so clear to most all the world (at least regarding what amounts to nothing more than naked agression) remains complete fiction to a vast majority of Americans.

"They hate us for our freedoms" ... no they hate us because of the death, destruction and tryanny we spread throughout the world. Scant few in this country get that. I am witness to this first hand and as mind numbing as it appears I have to attribute it to a remarkably effective program of mind control.

I simply have no other explanation.

Perhaps you are correct in that the Germans and Jews are on a par or more subjected ... but I don't think it could be much more severe. Just of a different nature.


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Oh, you guys are up there, maybe number three.
But look at it this way, are you accused en masse of genocide of millions in horrific ways?
And on the other side, are you told that the non Americans will slaughter you, so never trust them and here is proof?
So the thing is, this is multi generational as well.
People are suffering mentally because of it, on both sides.

[Carmody]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

[Lord Sidious]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

You will have to beat yourself up daily.
Oh and keep score too. :eek:

[ulli]

I am now at post #3487 in my process of catching up with the thread. Due to my current state of mind I have not logged in often lately. Several of Carmody's and other's posts have been most helpful.

I see my mineral question has gone unanswered. I knew it was off topic when I posted it. But, I would like to say, because this thread prompted me to write that obscure stream of consciousness question, I received a personal eureka I have been searching for. Thanks for that. Wonderful how things can work in mysterious ways.

The frames are great Ulli and glad you posted the new avatar. Every little bit of information helps in learning to trust people.... a difficult process for those of us who have been burned on internet forums and intrinsically of a reserved nature. Would you please call me Rose? Cottage Rose feels like a past incarnation now.

I am complete agreement regarding the necessity of a Jacuzzi, spending more time in one than a human probably should. The well water here is very soft. I actually feel like a fish out of water if I am away too long.

Regarding higher education, my first teacher wrote that I rushed through my work to get on to activities of more interest. I was in a program to take college level math/science courses my last two years of high school. Consequently, I had all my necessary credits early. True to form, I opted for half days in the last year instead of more classes in order to participate in "activities of more interest". Feeling cooped up in large groups has always been an excrutiating experience. I never returned to any formal education. My fondest educational memory was a year when I was allowed to skip regular English studies to write and produce plays for the class. I guess I have been involved in writing and producing my life ever since then.

I'm sorry your question was ignored. I could not provide the answer since I didn't know it. But I'm glad you had your personal Eureka moment.
Nor would it have occured to me to think of it as off-topic as questions arise in a Here and Now context all the time. Please be comfortable. I just finished watching the Peter Sellers clip of 'The Party' and would never want any of the Villagers feel that awkward.

[Calz]

Oh, you guys are up there, maybe number three.

But look at it this way, are you accused en masse of genocide of millions in horrific ways?

And on the other side, are you told that the non Americans will slaughter you, so never trust them and here is proof?
So the thing is, this is multi generational as well.
People are suffering mentally because of it, on both sides.

That is part of what I am trying to illustrate ... the other side of the coin.

US drops two atomic weapons on Japanese cities (ie civilian population centers). The lie goes that it shortened the war suggesting it is better to kill many thousands of innocent civilians than risk a few American GI's.

Different than imposing guilt on the Germans for their government's role in the war ...

Rather than "being accused en masse" for genocide we have "been EXcused en masse" for a similar level of genocide.

Each leads to a different result ... German being the more obvious ... but consider what it has done to create the atmosphere, public acceptance and support for the continued decades of genocide that was to follow. Smaller scale clearly but tell that to those who suffered.

Seriously ... most of Americans have boughten the "war on terror" nonsense hook, line and sinker. Many lining up to surrender even more of our freedoms to "protect us" from whatever boogey man is fashionable at the moment.

Shameful. :tsk:

[modwiz]

I am now at post #3487 in my process of catching up with the thread. Due to my current state of mind I have not logged in often lately. Several of Carmody's and other's posts have been most helpful.

I see my mineral question has gone unanswered. I knew it was off topic when I posted it. But, I would like to say, because this thread prompted me to write that obscure stream of consciousness question, I received a personal eureka I have been searching for. Thanks for that. Wonderful how things can work in mysterious ways.

The frames are great Ulli and glad you posted the new avatar. Every little bit of information helps in learning to trust people.... a difficult process for those of us who have been burned on internet forums and intrinsically of a reserved nature. Would you please call me Rose? Cottage Rose feels like a past incarnation now.

I am complete agreement regarding the necessity of a Jacuzzi, spending more time in one than a human probably should. The well water here is very soft. I actually feel like a fish out of water if I am away too long.

Regarding higher education, my first teacher wrote that I rushed through my work to get on to activities of more interest. I was in a program to take college level math/science courses my last two years of high school. Consequently, I had all my necessary credits early. True to form, I opted for half days in the last year instead of more classes in order to participate in "activities of more interest". Feeling cooped up in large groups has always been an excrutiating experience. I never returned to any formal education. My fondest educational memory was a year when I was allowed to skip regular English studies to write and produce plays for the class. I guess I have been involved in writing and producing my life ever since then.

I'm sorry your question was ignored. I could not provide the answer since I didn't know it. But I'm glad you had your personal Eureka moment.
Nor would it have occured to me to think of it as off-topic as questions arise in a Here and Now context all the time. Please be comfortable. I just finished watching the Peter Sellers clip of 'The Party' and would never want any of the Villagers feel that awkward.

I replied to it Ulli, after she posted though.

[NewFounderHome]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

You will have to beat yourself up daily.
Oh and keep score too. :eek:

Man you are bad LordSid!!!

[Carmody]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

You will have to beat yourself up daily.
Oh and keep score too. :eek:

I like a nice fresh bagel, covered with German salami, and good danish Havarti cheese.

[ulli]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.


Understood.

Cannot something be said for the "other side of the coin" though?

What about a lifetime of brainwashed indoctrination about Americans being the "saviours" of the world ... the good guys. Bastion of freedom. We must "save" the world from communism (kettle/black) and dictators.

The liberated world will throw rose petals at the feet of the glorious American troops marching through the streets bringing demon'acracy.


Anyway what is so clear to most all the world (at least regarding what amounts to nothing more than naked agression) remains complete fiction to a vast majority of Americans.

"They hate us for our freedoms" ... no they hate us because of the death, destruction and tryanny we spread throughout the world. Scant few in this country get that. I am witness to this first hand and as mind numbing as it appears I have to attribute it to a remarkably effective program of mind control.

I simply have no other explanation.

Perhaps you are correct in that the Germans and Jews are on a par or more subjected ... but I don't think it could be much more severe. Just of a different nature.


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Oh, you guys are up there, maybe number three.
But look at it this way, are you accused en masse of genocide of millions in horrific ways?
And on the other side, are you told that the non Americans will slaughter you, so never trust them and here is proof?
So the thing is, this is multi generational as well.
People are suffering mentally because of it, on both sides.


All the more reason we need the Village. And also make replicas. Lots of them, all over the web, and eventually in 3D as well. Hollywood can only get a voice if there are enlightening discussions about the agenda behind it. Let's call it 'Heavy Entertainment', shall we?

[modwiz]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:

[Calz]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:

ulli did an image of the salami city ... oh ... couple jillion pages ago.

Oooops must not live in the past rather remain present in the here and now :)

[modwiz]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:

ulli did an image of the salami city ... oh ... couple jillion pages ago.

Oooops must not live in the past rather remain present in the here and now :)

I remember that. It was soooo gross. There's is something about rendered body parts that just doesn't work for me, especially visually. I'm such a wuss that way.

[Carmody]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:


Yeah I know.

It tends to make for a thorough feeling of building nastiness in the body -afterward. I tend to not eat it much at all, these days. More a childhood comfort food. All those German platters laid out at family gatherings. And the weird cheese/butter knives. (would someone take that Schubert off infinite repeat, please? You're killing me....)

I must say though, that the first time I went to Germany, I did feel 'at home', for the first time in a long time. Everything felt logical. Sort of. But... that was just a visit. It felt great ...but at the same time the the worry that at any moment... my ass might start squeaking when I was walking. :p

I had bring back a whole bag of 'real' Nivea cream containers to keep the ladies at home happy. You see, only German Nivea cream is the real thing. Apparently.

[modwiz]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:


Yeah I know.

It tends to make for a thorough feeling of building nastiness in the body -afterward. I tend to not eat it much at all, these days. More a childhood comfort food. Al those German platters laid out at family gatherings. And the weird cheese knifes.

I must say though, that the first time I went to Germany, I did feel 'at home', for the first time in a long time. Everything felt logical. Sort of. But... that was just a visit. It felt great ...but at the same time the the worry that at any moment... my ass might start squeaking when I was walking. :p

I would love to visit Germany. I am about 75% French heritage but I have no problem remembering the Franks were a Germanic tribe. The French seem to have a problem with it though. :boink:

[Calz]

I have some German blood on my dad's side of the family.

Never been to Germany though ... unless we are doing past lives in the here and now???

If so my last incarnation was a small blonde swiss boy named Frederich. I lived in the mountains on a dairy farm with my parents.

I was conscripted into the German navy very much against the will of myself and family. I died in my first exposure to action on a surface ship (not a uboat) at the age of 18.

Does that count???

[ulli]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

I like that. You just provided me with an answer to my own root mystery. By the time I was eleven my father told people that his daughter was an Anglophile. And the moment I graduated I left Germany, not so much out of shame of being German but to escape it's dogmatic climate, as the freedoms that London was offering to students were more attractive. In a matter of three years I was fully integrated into the Jewish communities of London and New York, since the fashion world especially at the manufacturing and retail end were predominantly Jewish. The other good thing about fashion is that it is non political, that it renews itself, that it offers a second skin.
My Jewish friends were a lot more loving and hospitable than my non Jewish friends, no doubt about it. As a designer I had a priviledged position, admittedly, and was celebrated. Although some thought the fact that I was German was the reason I didn't get more press exposure, but I believe that had to do more with me being female. Karl Lagerfeld never had a problem getting press.

[Lord Sidious]

Oh, you guys are up there, maybe number three.

But look at it this way, are you accused en masse of genocide of millions in horrific ways?

And on the other side, are you told that the non Americans will slaughter you, so never trust them and here is proof?
So the thing is, this is multi generational as well.
People are suffering mentally because of it, on both sides.

That is part of what I am trying to illustrate ... the other side of the coin.

US drops two atomic weapons on Japanese cities (ie civilian population centers). The lie goes that it shortened the war suggesting it is better to kill many thousands of innocent civilians than risk a few American GI's.

Different than imposing guilt on the Germans for their government's role in the war ...

Rather than "being accused en masse" for genocide we have "been EXcused en masse" for a similar level of genocide.

Each leads to a different result ... German being the more obvious ... but consider what it has done to create the atmosphere, public acceptance and support for the continued decades of genocide that was to follow. Smaller scale clearly but tell that to those who suffered.

Seriously ... most of Americans have boughten the "war on terror" nonsense hook, line and sinker. Many lining up to surrender even more of our freedoms to "protect us" from whatever boogey man is fashionable at the moment.

Shameful. :tsk:

Yeah, I hear you.




I like a nice fresh bagel, covered with German salami, and good danish Havarti cheese.

Sounds good, but I have given meat up.

[Carmody]

I have some German blood on my dad's side of the family.

Never been to Germany though ... unless we are doing past lives in the here and now???

If so my last incarnation was a small blonde swiss boy named Frederich. I lived in the mountains on a dairy farm with my parents.

I was conscripted into the German navy very much against the will of myself and family. I died in my first exposure to action on a surface ship (not a uboat) at the age of 18.

Does that count???

well, you got 'blowed up reeal good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dfoVqhQVyQ)', so I suspect that it counts. (same for me in Egypt, about 2k back)

[ulli]

The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible, even if they weren't born then and ignoring the fact that technically, they didn't start the war.
And then there is the holocaust material being bombarded onto both groups, one as perpetrators and the other as victims.
The mind control these two groups suffer is heavier than anyone else in history and it is evil, if there is such thing.

Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.

You will have to beat yourself up daily.
Oh and keep score too. :eek:

I like a nice fresh bagel, covered with German salami, and good danish Havarti cheese.

Salami was good in the winter months, but in the summer it would be Vollkornbrot with sliced radishes and a sprinkle of salt, or with sliced home grown tomatoes with finely chopped onion and a sprinkle of salt and pepper. Also cheese and apple was a yummy sandwich combination.

[Cottage Rose]

I researched sandstone last night. Certain stones find their true therapeutic expression in the form of gem elixirs and sandstone is one of those. It is great for helping living tissue regain lost elasticity. Very helpful in any hardening of skin, like after a bad burn, and also the arteries. It would also work for general youthfulness of skin, adding some of it to a quality face cream or milk would be a very good use of it.

As an environment enhancer it might have some influence with flexibility of certain mind constructs. Mind you, this last piece is my own extrapolation, but it did 'come' to me as I was writing this.

The primary application of sandstone is softening of tissue.

Yes, Rose, it is good to see you again. Especially here in the 'village'.

Thank you for the information and your kind welcome, Modwiz.

In the process of my questioning, I brought in an unusual specimen from outdoors... reddish brown, roundish, softball sized, part smooth, part rough with sparkles if examined closely ... in order to experience holding the mineral. It did "speak" to me (I would only say that here) and seems to alleviate pains if the cool surface if placed on the back of the neck.

It is my feeling the sandstone structure might "contain" energy and block nearby "chatter" that always bothers me elsewhere. Just a theory. It does seem to have that effect. The rocks that comprise the walls are thick and varied in size, many rather large. I am thinking they were stacked in a frame with a board then and filled in from the back with a cement type substance. The room I stay in mostly is an add on room outside the original structure with one exterior wall as an interior wall. I feel a certain anchoring effect and draw towards the interior wall and a containment field inside the original structure. Photos taken inside the structure often contain orbs. But, that could certainly be unrelated.

Strangely, when I visited this house in the late 60's, I sat and did needlework on a sofa gazing out a window that is now the doorway to this room. As I did, I had deja vu's continually, as if a download. I do not recall such intense deja vu's happening to that degree at any other time in my life.

In the early 60's dream, I was viewing the exact scene outside the window from the jacuzzi facing the sunset over the pond. Except in the early dream, I was in a spring fed pond in a cave looking at the same view. (This room wasn't added until 1989.)

How would I go about making an elixir?

[ulli]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:

ulli did an image of the salami city ... oh ... couple jillion pages ago.

Oooops must not live in the past rather remain present in the here and now :)

I remember that. It was soooo gross. There's is something about rendered body parts that just doesn't work for me, especially visually. I'm such a wuss that way.

Yeah, that was a wicked thing to do...very naughty of me. I knew there were a lot of vegetarians in the village. I found it gross myself...
But there were several other pictures with yummy veggies...a great excercise in focusing on the positive and ignoring the negative. Funny how the mind remembers the bad, and ignores the good, innit?

[Calz]

@Carmody. Salami? :bad:

ulli did an image of the salami city ... oh ... couple jillion pages ago.

Oooops must not live in the past rather remain present in the here and now :)

I remember that. It was soooo gross. There's is something about rendered body parts that just doesn't work for me, especially visually. I'm such a wuss that way.

Yeah, that was a wicked thing to do...very naughty of me. I knew there were a lot of vegetarians in the village. I found it gross myself...
But there were several other pictures with yummy veggies...a great excercise in focusing on the positive and ignoring the negative. Funny how the mind remembers the bad, and ignores the good, innit?

Had broccoli been mentioned I would have been equally as quick to remind about that city as well :hungry:

[ulli]

I have some German blood on my dad's side of the family.

Never been to Germany though ... unless we are doing past lives in the here and now???

If so my last incarnation was a small blonde swiss boy named Frederich. I lived in the mountains on a dairy farm with my parents.

I was conscripted into the German navy very much against the will of myself and family. I died in my first exposure to action on a surface ship (not a uboat) at the age of 18.

Does that count???

If they could write Heidi's story why not Frederich's? But maybe Hansl would have been a better name for you. Somehow I can't see Swiss parents naming their boy after a Prussian king.
Ulli in skeptic's mode here....

[Carmody]

Sounds good, but I have given meat up.

Yep, i don't eat too much of it anymore. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHZ92vfD0jA&feature=related)

[Cottage Rose]

And, back to Astrology and my original question about Chiron creating aspects. What I was wondering is if the star aspect has a meaning and if so what? I did a search and couldn't find anything. (As I said previously, without Chiron, no trines, no star, very different from the chart I remember.):



(Posted for purposes of question and removed)

[ulli]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

From 2 or three monyhs ago, my dreams are a mess. Always travelling, bus, underground, train, airplaine..... airports, underground stations, highways, ..... I wake up sweating and my heart beating fast.

Carmody and Lisab, thanks.

That means your inner seeker is really waking up.
Travel is Jupiter/Sagittarius, which at dream level means expansion through learning of higher truths.
The more desperate the soul in it's search the closer the moment of enlightenment.

:) Thanks.

But sometimes, my another Dan33 says " forget about this all stuff..... you know Daniel, every year it's the same....... nothing.. ...and i hate religions, ....

Enlightenment has nothing to do with religions...
And it will shut up all the different Dans...no fragments remain. Just you, and the universe, as one.

[Calz]

I have some German blood on my dad's side of the family.

Never been to Germany though ... unless we are doing past lives in the here and now???

If so my last incarnation was a small blonde swiss boy named Frederich. I lived in the mountains on a dairy farm with my parents.

I was conscripted into the German navy very much against the will of myself and family. I died in my first exposure to action on a surface ship (not a uboat) at the age of 18.

Does that count???

If they could write Heidi's story why not Frederich's? But maybe Hansl would have been a better name for you. Somehow I can't see Swiss parents naming their boy after a Prussian king.Ulli in skeptic's mode here....

Double checked ... wrong spelling on name. Here is what I got:

you were a young boy in the Swiss mountains -Fredrik was your name, white blond look, small in build
Did you know that you were killed on sea in WW2? Before aged 21 yrs maybe 18yrs. Not a Uboat, but with big guns. Wore white/light navy uniform. You were forced to join up to the German navy. You didn't want to go and your family didn't want you to go. There was regret the whole time. Also sea sickness, and you felt alienated because you were young, small built and came from the countryside. But the experience wasn't longer than 3-6 months until you died on the first major mission.

[ulli]

And, back to Astrology and my original question about Chiron creating aspects. What I was wondering is if the star aspect has a meaning and if so what? I did a search and couldn't find anything. (As I said previously, without Chiron, no trines, no star, very different from the chart I remember.):



I would have given you a Venus/ Saturn trine as well as a Mercury/ Moon trine. But don't think a chart without trines is inferior.
About fixed stars...I never studied it but know it's a huge field. The Persians use it a lot.

[Carmody]

I did do a thing for while, where I took charts and did the progressions and looked for the progressed alignments. Sometimes I would see a Merkabah form near the end/exit point...

Always looking for the patterns. However, one must be careful.

"You must take a break, Max!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNOQUPmgbnY)

[Guest]

Fast forward to now. Gone for the day -this thread moves almost as fast as the speed of light. Drove to the other side of Los Angelesand back today... Took a deep breath when I got home to my refuge in the mountains. Way too many people in asmall area. Some guy texting on his phone in the fast lane... Driving carefully.... Will take me a day to chill

Went to the university.... no degree Felt like I was on planet of the apes... most of my education has been experiential in nature. Coming to PA has brought to my attention, that it would be good for me to read up....

Grateful I made it through the LA lunacy safely to a beautiful still & clear star filled night.

Have good dreams

Nora

We are all related

[ViralSpiral]

Day 1: Move only the beds, clothes, bathroom things. Get everything unpacked and make (a) cozy bedroom/s. Evening meal is fast food.
Day 2: The Kitchen. Again, unpack everything, and try to make the kitchen as perfect as possible. Take the empty boxes back the next day.
Day 3: Pack books, CDs, TV, pictures and living room stuff. Maybe get the dining room moved as well. Plan beforehand how the furniture should be arranged so there is a minimum of pushing heavy stuff around.
If there is terrace and garden stuff that comes on the last day.




Oh Ulli you make me laugh! http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/iambuzzysma/GRAPHICS/Smileys/smiley-hearteyes.gif
In my world, I wait until the truck is parked outside waiting to go, and then get organized ;) Never late, just not bothered with detail.....




Scheize! I'm German/danish Russian/polish Jew, in half the mix. Oy!

I can have my guilt and eat it too.


*chortle* (btw - its Scheisse http://th324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/Mikel1783/th_Smiley_wink.gif ) German = pedant, and that's me.



The Germans are constantly bombarded with stuff about world war two and how they are responsible

My dad was 7 when it started, spent the next 7 years seeing, running, stealing. That stuff's gotta hurt.
Was taboo.
My sister and I could not even play the Top Gun music record in the house......







No salami!


http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/65b33ea358b21203cb528fe23afbd1cb26.png


:)

[Calz]

Day in the village wouldn't be complete without the "Wizard's Photo of the Day" so here we go.

Could be that a wizard would run low on "mana" and be unable to cast a spell. We have covered swords.

Looks like the wiz'z are upgrading their "skills"???



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[astrid]

Ok updating. sort of in a weird inbetween space
Can't quite figure it out yet .
Although I did notice today that I was comcerned with
aesthics again, rather than just being so survival focused .
Which is a dramatic shift.
Im being lead to explore the spaces between spaces,
been sending my consciousness out exploring today,
finding new doorways. Very cool
For sure feeling more like one whole person rather than
many fragments. And all the archetypes on duty are
actually on the same page for a change.
Its very weird having such a quiet mind . This is going
to take some getting used to. Will be interesting to see
If this is a permanent thing . Noticing that things that
interested me 3 weeks ago per- fast now bore me
****less.
Feeling stronger in body but still eating quite light.
Havent put back much protein as yet . Might start
going for walks this week to see what my fitnes
level is like .

More laters

[ulli]

Ok updating. sort of in a weird inbetween space
Can't quite figure it out yet .
Although I did notice today that I was comcerned with
aesthics again, rather than just being so survival focused .
Which is a dramatic shift.
Im being lead to explore the spaces between spaces,
been sending my consciousness out exploring today,
finding new doorways. Very cool
For sure feeling more like one whole person rather than
many fragments. And all the archetypes on duty are
actually on the same page for a change.
Its very weird having such a quiet mind . This is going
to take some getting used to. Will be interesting to see
If this is a permanent thing . Noticing that things that
interested me 3 weeks ago per- fast now bore me
****less.
Feeling stronger in body but still eating quite light.
Havent put back much protein as yet . Might start
going for walks this week to see what my fitnes
level is like .

More laters

You did something amazing there, Astrid.
You explored the effects of depriving your body for three weeks
of it's normal intake and then reported regularly and faithfully to the rest of us here
at the village what that did to your head and your entire being.
I am in total awe of you and want to express my special thanks.

[Calz]

Ok updating. sort of in a weird inbetween space
Can't quite figure it out yet .
Although I did notice today that I was comcerned with
aesthics again, rather than just being so survival focused .
Which is a dramatic shift.
Im being lead to explore the spaces between spaces,
been sending my consciousness out exploring today,
finding new doorways. Very cool
For sure feeling more like one whole person rather than
many fragments. And all the archetypes on duty are
actually on the same page for a change.
Its very weird having such a quiet mind . This is going
to take some getting used to. Will be interesting to see
If this is a permanent thing . Noticing that things that
interested me 3 weeks ago per- fast now bore me
****less.
Feeling stronger in body but still eating quite light.
Havent put back much protein as yet . Might start
going for walks this week to see what my fitnes
level is like .

More laters

You did something amazing there, Astrid.
You explored the effects of depriving your body for three weeks
of it's normal intake and then reported regularly and faithfully to the rest of us here
at the village what that did to your head and your entire being.
I am in total awe of you and want to express my special thanks.


I agree. I was going to say something to the same effect.

I found it especially touching the level of openess and depth of expression from someone who suggests a battle at times facing the 3d world.

Inside look at a remarkable journey of growth.

Way to go astrid!!!

:hail::first:

[Lisab]

Absolutely agree. I have found Astrid's posts to be especially inspiring. In fact the whole village. There's been a few changes in my life recently. I shall report back soon! Got loads on at the moment. Im so in love with you guys (sigh)!!!!!!

[Calz]

Speaking of astrid ... here is another funny baby photo of the same type she posted awhile back ...


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... and while I am at it ... just another one of "boys being boys."

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:



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[ulli]

Speaking of astrid ... here is another funny baby photo of the same type she posted awhile back ...


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... and while I am at it ... just another one of "boys being boys."

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:



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No wonder- he doesn't have to clean it up.
And quite a few older boys still don't mind it
even when that stuff is all over their sofas and armchairs and no one around to clean up after them.
If it weren't for women most men would still be living in the caves.
(Oops...;))

...

[Seikou-Kishi]

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:

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"I know what I've done. I know I'm in trouble, but damn I enjoyed getting there"

[ulli]

I'm looking for a man who is definitely not a cave man..
and that is Wade Frazier.
He and his thread seem to have vanished.
Anyone know what happened?

[ulli]

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:

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"I know what I've done. I know I'm in trouble, but damn I enjoyed getting there"


Most of us can understand that mentality.
What is harder to understand is the victim type who wants to be pi**ed on just to get their kicks.
Yet they exist, too.

[Lisab]

I'm looking for a man who is definitely not a cave man..
and that is Wade Frazier.
He and his thread seem to have vanished.
Anyone know what happened?

Its still here, under the Hot Threads This Week section.

[Seikou-Kishi]

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:

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"I know what I've done. I know I'm in trouble, but damn I enjoyed getting there"


Most of us can understand that mentality.
What is harder to understand is the victim type who wants to be pi**ed on just to get their kicks.
Yet they exist, too.

Those who like getting pi**ed on aren't necessarily victims...

[ulli]

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:

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"I know what I've done. I know I'm in trouble, but damn I enjoyed getting there"


Most of us can understand that mentality.
What is harder to understand is the victim type who wants to be pi**ed on just to get their kicks.
Yet they exist, too.

Those who like getting pi**ed on aren't necessarily victims...

You are thinking of the predator types who unconsciously seek to be punished?

[9eagle9]

I did too. I just had to Wiki-pedia him...(smile) ...morbid curiosity.


OK...I deleted it again.
The dirt on Wayne Newton will ruin a good thread...
like I said, I was having a frivolous moment.

[eaglespirit]

I'm looking for a man who is definitely not a cave man..
and that is Wade Frazier.
He and his thread seem to have vanished.
Anyone know what happened?

Its still here, under the Hot Threads This Week section.

From Wade on November 20th:
Hi:
After tomorrow, I am probably going to be quiet for a week or so. There has been plenty of action on this thread lately. This is for exploring the fears of FE, and I can see some of that happening here, as it should.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-&p=360605#post360605

[Carmody]

The entire forum is in a mode of exploring their/its fears. Which is a normal stage.

Humanity does this in groups, groups like individuals, families, villages, towns, and then up to things we have taken to calling countries or races. As above so below, global scaling theory, etc.

think of a pressured balloon, of chaotic order.

near the surface of the membrane of pressure differential, a few of the molecules see and understand the membrane and differential. They possess a connection to the membrane differential, they are aligned and express connection to it. Awareness.

So they find ways to open it or breach the membrane.

They breach it.

The entire contents of the balloon, in chaotic differential... are then forced out of the balloon, via their chaotic pressured differential (as a group goes)...into the 'other' space, unprepared and unknowing of the depth of the situation. for that moment situation, and time was exclusive and was available ONLY to those who punctured the balloon.

The human race is like a herd of gazelles.

The ones at the edge are the most aware, as they possess more of the scope of the differential, with regard to knowledge and awareness.

This pattern also follows through in molecular considerations, regarding matter to matter interactions. within the balloon and within other (solid) materials, in some important ways. We are a reflection of our origins, down to the molecular considerations of a 3D solid. The spiritual within us connects through and expresses through -that doorway.

We are a reflection of our fundamentals, through and through. The scaling remains intact, on all levels.

We are learning and moving into the order of the plasma, coming from the order/disorder of the solid(lattice structure)/gas.


Remember, 99% of the universe is of this plasma state.

A plasma state where communication and a stream of order is within the plasma, even though it has boundaries of interaction, and streams of play and differential that is within.

All of this is about increasing the awareness of the need for connection of the all of the chaos (individuals) within the balloon..... so that not just the ones on the edge make the connection, but that a much larger mass of the chaotic group in the middle understand (order/communication-plasma) what is going on, when the surface of the balloon of pressure..is punctured.

As with the gazelles, from our perception, lions and such await for the herd to be broken, and are also the force that is corralling it.

Whether such is evil or not, is a matter of perception.

Regardless, if some sort of consciousness communication within the chaos (between individual molecules) of the pressured bubble does not take place, before the skin is punctured, then the spill will remain in ignorance and separation and no plasma charge order will take place when the 'bubble is burst'.

Shifting from a 'solid lattice structure' of interconnectedness and unending/unyielding permanence (instinct/response, unchanging, etc)..to a chaotic gas of individuals..which we are largely, right now..to a connected mass of charged plasma individuals.

We are organizing into a connected plasma, as much as possible, before the bubble bursts.

The key point is that a plasma is quantum individuality with dimensionally connected and thus expressed forms of ... order.

this post may be difficult to understand, but much of what you need to know, is in there. the fundamentals of the why and the how. Each individual component requires a different message, an individual entrance of the understanding, so it can understand some form of connection exists, and is outside of instinct and into consciousness, for the bubble of instinct is about to be burst and order will need to be maintained within the group, otherwise collapse into chaos and darkness/zero/'ground level' (interdimensional dust) will be the result.

[PurpleLama]

When wayne did a show at camp shelby, the base had one of their flags framed to present to him, and I was the one who did it. The military is all about pomp and circulstance, and loves to hand out a guidon every time somebody sneezes or turns around. I even got a certificate from the base thanking me for my "invaluable support in the global war on terror". I am a picture framer, for crying out loud.

[Carmody]

When wayne did a show at camp shelby, the base had one of their flags framed to present to him, and I was the one who did it. The military is all about pomp and circulstance, and loves to hand out a guidon every time somebody sneezes or turns around. I even got a certificate from the base thanking me for my "invaluable support in the global war on terror". I am a picture framer, for crying out loud.

I'm sure in your mind somewhere..was an image of you saluting smartly.... when this award was bestowed upon you. And that you had to consciously fight it. For if the impulse was completed, the insult to their ignorance... would be complete.

[ulli]

Hi there PL, I had a feeling there was a Village connection to dear ol' Wayne.
Thanks for the confession...now we will never let you forget it.

Next time we do a group outing to Vegas I will let you have a huge water pistol
with which to sprinkle every Wayne Newton bill board we see there.

...and thanks to Calz for providing the imagery earlier....;)

[jcocks]

I've noticed I've been in a really down mood lately...Can't really explain it, though things have been rather tough for me of late, but I'm not usually one to be depressed or anywhere near being so....

Maybe I'm sensing that something is about to happen...I don't know... Anyone else feeling like this?

[Lisab]

Ive been feeling detatched and desireless (no desires) but not depressed altho I know alot of people are. Ride it out, you'll be fine. Sending you love jcocks.

[ulli]

@ jcocks
It's astrological. I checked. It will soon get better again.
While Mars was at the end of Leo it went over your natal Mars Saturn conjunction.
You've had issues with energy ups and downs...you get those a lot anyway, but Mars passing over that spot (about a month ago) would have made the issues flare up even more. Then Mars entered Virgo and hit your Gemini Mercury with a square. Mars square Mercury Possibly an unpleasant argument.
Now the sun in Sagittarius is opposite your Gemini Mercury. Sun opposite Mercury.
Since none of the slow outer planets are doing any dirty tricks now this will soon pass and you will be your happy cheerful self again.
if you google the terms I put in bold letters you will find tons of explanations on the web.

[ulli]

I've noticed I've been in a really down mood lately...Can't really explain it, though things have been rather tough for me of late, but I'm not usually one to be depressed or anywhere near being so....

Maybe I'm sensing that something is about to happen...I don't know... Anyone else feeling like this?



I zoomed in a bit more. Mid September you had a heavy...Saturn square Venus
That creates loneliness and separation, but also obligations towards a relationship. The test is passed when those obligations are recognized.
Then November 1st the Mars conjunct your Mars Saturn conjunction. That would have been a real crisis, energy wise.
Then November 15th Mars was square your Mercury and November 18th the Sun was square your Mars/Saturn conjunction...which is not only depression causing but at the same time can make you angry as well.
You are nearly in the clear...it's been a rough ride astrowise.

[PurpleLama]

When wayne did a show at camp shelby, the base had one of their flags framed to present to him, and I was the one who did it. The military is all about pomp and circulstance, and loves to hand out a guidon every time somebody sneezes or turns around. I even got a certificate from the base thanking me for my "invaluable support in the global war on terror". I am a picture framer, for crying out loud.

I'm sure in your mind somewhere..was an image of you saluting smartly.... when this award was bestowed upon you. And that you had to consciously fight it. For if the impulse was completed, the insult to their ignorance... would be complete.

Honestly, it made me laugh, as it made the soldier who was tasked with it's delivery laugh as well. I had been saying for years that I was "saving the world, one picture frame at a time" and suddenly I had proof. So yes, I smile every time I see it tucked away behind the cash register, not for pride but for the silliness of the sentiment in the first place. Most of the enlisted men and women I've met can definitely appreciate, as well, the silliness of all the pomp.

[Carmody]

When wayne did a show at camp shelby, the base had one of their flags framed to present to him, and I was the one who did it. The military is all about pomp and circulstance, and loves to hand out a guidon every time somebody sneezes or turns around. I even got a certificate from the base thanking me for my "invaluable support in the global war on terror". I am a picture framer, for crying out loud.

I'm sure in your mind somewhere..was an image of you saluting smartly.... when this award was bestowed upon you. And that you had to consciously fight it. For if the impulse was completed, the insult to their ignorance... would be complete.

Honestly, it made me laugh, as it made the soldier who was tasked with it's delivery laugh as well. I had been saying for years that I was "saving the world, one picture frame at a time" and suddenly I had proof. So yes, I smile every time I see it tucked away behind the cash register, not for pride but for the silliness of the sentiment in the first place. Most of the enlisted men and women I've met can definitely appreciate, as well, the silliness of all the pomp.

Yes, it is not all fun and games.

vWWV19wwPR0

[astrid]

@ Ulli , sharing things " in process "
was previously not something I would have done .
Thank fashion back ground for that one- when in
that fragile designing mindset of molding matter
from chaos I had to always shut myself away.
I guess these days my core state is much more
stable . I'm quite curious to test out my new
organization onto old problems .
3am . Woke up just then with the message
" you are making sure the bridges are built and
ready for the crossing"
Makes sense why I'm thinking about inbetween
spaces during wake time . Now that I think about it
I have always been fascinated with bridges.
Two of my uncles both civil engineers one literally a
bridge designer. When a child i would not play with
dolls but blocks and make roads and bridges, testing
them for strength with cars and trucks.
Of course this was deemed as weird . Oh well ,
here's to being weird .

Anyways just 3am musings .
Will try and catch up on post reading tomorrow
and hopefully start engaging a big more rather
than being on my own island quite so much .

[Carmody]

Ok updating. sort of in a weird inbetween space
Can't quite figure it out yet .
Although I did notice today that I was comcerned with
aesthics again, rather than just being so survival focused .
Which is a dramatic shift.
Im being lead to explore the spaces between spaces,
been sending my consciousness out exploring today,
finding new doorways. Very cool
For sure feeling more like one whole person rather than
many fragments. And all the archetypes on duty are
actually on the same page for a change.
Its very weird having such a quiet mind . This is going
to take some getting used to. Will be interesting to see
If this is a permanent thing . Noticing that things that
interested me 3 weeks ago per- fast now bore me
****less.
Feeling stronger in body but still eating quite light.
Havent put back much protein as yet . Might start
going for walks this week to see what my fitnes
level is like .

More laters

My advice is to find a symbolic key, and keep it. something that unlocks the long path in the mind back to the moment. a key who's meaning is difficult to loose, even in the more distant and complex moment you will find yourself in.

recall how Arthur dent learned how to fly in the hitchhiker's guide.

He had been bodily thrown from the God Thor's party in the clouds (for repeating himself and wandering aimlessly)....and was falling toward the surface of the given planet. multiple worlds, space, places and dimensional adventures later....there he was... tossed from the party in the clouds....and about to finally impact the ground after this long, long fall.

Then, as he was deep into freaking out, then past to the acceptance of it all...as he neared the final impact on the ground.....at terminal speed..he spotted, on the side of a hill..the Bag he lost at the Paris Airport, ten years earlier --it had his favorite towel in it.

This shocked him so much that he actually missed hitting the ground..and learned how to fly.

[ulli]

@ Ulli , sharing things " in process "
was previously not something I would have done .
Thank fashion back ground for that one- when in
that fragile designing mindset of molding matter
from chaos I had to always shut myself away.
I guess these days my core state is much more
stable . I'm quite curious to test out my new
organization onto old problems .
3am . Woke up just then with the message
" you are making sure the bridges are built and
ready for the crossing"
Makes sense why I'm thinking about inbetween
spaces during wake time . Now that I think about it
I have always been fascinated with bridges.
Two of my uncles both civil engineers one literally a
bridge designer. When a child i would not play with
dolls but blocks and make roads and bridges, testing
them for strength with cars and trucks.
Of course this was deemed as weird . Oh well ,
here's to being weird .

Anyways just 3am musings .
Will try and catch up on post reading tomorrow
and hopefully start engaging a big more rather
than being on my own island quite so much .

I relate to the bridge building...
Sir Edmund Hillary's claim to fame was to climb Everest with Tensing
but in my view his life's greatest achievement was the work he did later for the Sherpa people.
Apart from setting up a trust to build schools and hospitals he had many bridges built in the Himalayas.
In the Mayan horoscope I'm a double White World Bridger,
and it explained to me why I was always reconciling, integrating and making stands against racism and other divisive isms.

[ViralSpiral]

Talking of bridges..... community ones. When opening one of Viking's UFO vids, this wonderful ad appeared.


kTGGSkYjNpM




Strawberry fields forever http://hannahwilsonselectronicportfolio.wikispaces.com/file/view/music-notes.jpg/184612627/music-notes.jpg


Have told you about my lovely strawberry and arugula salad?

[modwiz]

Speaking of astrid ... here is another funny baby photo of the same type she posted awhile back ...


11621



... and while I am at it ... just another one of "boys being boys."

This one totally cracks me up every time I see it ... the look on his face :laugh::rofl:



11622

No wonder- he doesn't have to clean it up.
And quite a few older boys still don't mind it
even when that stuff is all over their sofas and armchairs and no one around to clean up after them.
If it weren't for women most men would still be living in the caves.
(Oops...;))

...

......and be perfectly happy as well. There are some messy men Ulli, but the description you have there is unrecognizable to me personally.

Some of us actually 'entertained' with some frequency and you can't have them run out screaming because they fear a cootie infestation. That would be bad for hormonal balancing rites. :eyebrows:

[modwiz]

I'm looking for a man who is definitely not a cave man..
and that is Wade Frazier.
He and his thread seem to have vanished.
Anyone know what happened?

I think he is busy. Here is the last post on his thread. It's not by him: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=363481&viewfull=1#post363481

[modwiz]

Hi there PL, I had a feeling there was a Village connection to dear ol' Wayne.
Thanks for the confession...now we will never let you forget it.

Next time we do a group outing to Vegas I will let you have a huge water pistol
with which to sprinkle every Wayne Newton bill board we see there.

...and thanks to Calz for providing the imagery earlier....;)

Calz has revealed my favorite water pistol ammo. I like deep symbolism in my acts of pique. You could say I get piqued off. Even a water pistol contains the energetic intent of a gun,IMO.

BTW, the above tactic is usually carried out firing squad style where only one person has the live round. Good to let your 'ammo' cool off as well. Body temperature is a give away.

Obviously this is something you only do to someone you do not like..........a lot.

I'd like to see it utilized in the OWS scenarios against the minions going to and from their jobs. They have been pizzing on us for too long. Getting an actual exec should come with some kind of commendation.

Open season on predators, some would say.

[Lord Sidious]

Yes, it is not all fun and games.

vWWV19wwPR0

I hate to be the guy that points it out, but Palin had the rank of a colour/staff sergeant, not a sergeant major.


http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/staff-seargent-150x139.jpg
Staff/Colour Sergeant

http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/seargent-mayjor-150x139.jpg
Sergeant Major aka Warrant Officer 2

Colour Sgt doesn't carry a pace stick, nor does a Sgt Major, only an RSM, Regimental Sgt Major does.

[modwiz]

Yes, it is not all fun and games.

vWWV19wwPR0

I hate to be the guy that points it out, but Palin had the rank of a colour/staff sergeant, not a sergeant major.


http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/staff-seargent-150x139.jpg
Staff/Colour Sergeant

http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/seargent-mayjor-150x139.jpg
Sergeant Major aka Warrant Officer 2

Colour Sgt doesn't carry a pace stick, nor does a Sgt Major, only an RSM, Regimental Sgt Major does.

Leave it to our 'legal eagle' to keep us straight on military rank insignia. :thumb:

[ulli]

Yes, it is not all fun and games.

vWWV19wwPR0

I hate to be the guy that points it out, but Palin had the rank of a colour/staff sergeant, not a sergeant major.


http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/staff-seargent-150x139.jpg
Staff/Colour Sergeant

http://www.whats-the-question.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/seargent-mayjor-150x139.jpg
Sergeant Major aka Warrant Officer 2

Colour Sgt doesn't carry a pace stick, nor does a Sgt Major, only an RSM, Regimental Sgt Major does.

Leave it to our 'legal eagle' to keep us straight on military rank insignia. :thumb:

Lord Sid may be our resident 'legal eagle' but HRH Modviz is our 'regal eagle",...
his last few posts have demonstrated that he can no longer cloak his blue blood.

[Lord Sidious]

Leave it to our 'legal eagle' to keep us straight on military rank insignia. :thumb:

The australian army runs on the same system, so I recognise the ranks straight away.

[WhiteFeather]

Sipping some red wine.... feeling fine, and listening to Rainbow - Street Of Dreams. Ohh and Queensryche Too - Silent Lucidity. Dare To join me Avie's.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwyawYPYvbQ&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw&ob=av3e

[Cottage Rose]

And, back to Astrology and my original question about Chiron creating aspects. What I was wondering is if the star aspect has a meaning and if so what? I did a search and couldn't find anything. (As I said previously, without Chiron, no trines, no star, very different from the chart I remember.):



I would have given you a Venus/ Saturn trine as well as a Mercury/ Moon trine. But don't think a chart without trines is inferior.
About fixed stars...I never studied it but know it's a huge field. The Persians use it a lot.

Hi Ulli: I posted the chart only to ask you the question and then removed it. Would you please remove the image in your reply: #3566?

Thanks.

[astrid]

Made some essene bread this morning,
Interesting recipie it's just sprouted wheat
ground to a dough . I added some of my rye
sour dough starter and a handful of rye flour
And it turned out amazingly well. The cultures in the
sour dough perfect to restore my gut cultures,
sour dough breads are even better than yoghurts
for that and dairy free. I think the salt water flush i
was doing cleaned out too much of my good gut flora .
It was a good intuitive hit, I was making it anyways
then i realized that it was exactly what my body needed
Have to love that .
Went into a very deep trance state earlier for a good
hour , annoyingly though wheni came out of it it was
wiped form my memory . So I have to work on my
recall. Think I need to start recording even of its just
impressions .

The Internet is down here. My ISP has an outage that
covers three major regional areas and it's been out
for at least 12 hours, sign of things to come maybe ??

[Carmody]

Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

[modwiz]

Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

Agreed.:welcome::high5::thumb::clap2:

[Carmody]

Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

Agreed.:welcome::high5::thumb::clap2:

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system.

[ViralSpiral]

here and now, some impressions from my recent trails...


Lake Zurich

http://i42.tinypic.com/2l94g1e.jpg



Geneva railway station

http://i42.tinypic.com/zwlz4k.jpg


Berlin


http://i43.tinypic.com/21jsow6.jpg




What a blessed life!

:)

[ulli]

What beautiful pictures, ViralSpiral.
Especially the lake. Magical. We don't ever get that kind of light in the tropics.

[ulli]

Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

Agreed.:welcome::high5::thumb::clap2:

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system.

That explains why my hair has been standing on end ;)
Did I mention the severe thunderstorm we had in Barbados? Most unusual. The loudest and longest thunder claps I have ever heard in my life.
Maybe we should ask you to take it easy, just for a bit.....

[Calz]

Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

Agreed.:welcome::high5::thumb::clap2:

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system.

That explains why my hair has been standing on end ;)

Did I mention the severe thunderstorm we had in Barbados? Most unusual. The loudest and longest thunder claps I have ever heard in my life.
Maybe we should ask you to take it easy, just for a bit.....

Oh ***AT LAST*** someone gave me an opening to have some fun!!!

Thought I was going to make it through the whole night needing to be serious.



11630


Whew ... that was a close one ...

[Lisab]

Wow that looks like my hair in the eighties lol

[ulli]

Asterix had an idea how to bring down a malfunctioning system...short of going after the psychopathic leaders directly.

The first 8 minutes they give him the run around...then he figures out how to beat them at their own game.


GI5kwSap9Ug

[ulli]

Here and Now


I just died my hair roots...(yeah yeah, I hear you...but I'm not ready yet to show my grey hair)
and when I returned to the 'puter my home page had an ad running about tinting grey hair.
Please, someone, how did they invent cookies that can actually follow you to the bathroom?

[eaglespirit]

Here and Now


I just died my hair roots...(yeah yeah, I hear you...but I'm not ready yet to show my grey hair)
and when I returned to the 'puter my home page had an ad running about tinting grey hair.
Please, someone, how did they invent cookies that can actually follow you to the bathroom?

That was me, Ulli...giving You a Good Morning 'hair' tease...bye the bye, You look Beautiful : )

[ulli]

Here and Now


I just died my hair roots...(yeah yeah, I hear you...but I'm not ready yet to show my grey hair)
and when I returned to the 'puter my home page had an ad running about tinting grey hair.
Please, someone, how did they invent cookies that can actually follow you to the bathroom?

That was me, Ulli...giving You a Good Morning 'hair' tease...bye the bye, You look Beautiful : )

So it was YOU that prompted me as well??
Hey, Ulli is having a bad hair day...lets see what we can do about it???
Wuz that it?

I have news for you: we can channel your energies at a few psychopaths. Have you seen the new thread Carmody started?
Dynamite!

[Lisab]

Just read that Jerry Hicks of the Abraham teachings has died. I dont know when, just got it on email.

[eaglespirit]

Here and Now


I just died my hair roots...(yeah yeah, I hear you...but I'm not ready yet to show my grey hair)
and when I returned to the 'puter my home page had an ad running about tinting grey hair.
Please, someone, how did they invent cookies that can actually follow you to the bathroom?

That was me, Ulli...giving You a Good Morning 'hair' tease...bye the bye, You look Beautiful : )

So it was YOU that prompted me as well??
Hey, Ulli is having a bad hair day...lets see what we can do about it???
Wuz that it?

I have news for you: we can channel your energies at a few psychopaths. Have you seen the new thread Carmody started?
Dynamite!

HeHe...was going to post this just as You posted...Here Ya Go : )



Finally. Getting to the actual framing of the core issue.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system


Agreed.:welcome::high5::thumb::clap2:


Great Thread over there...

Active Altruistic Empathy Selflessness Service(wisdom-laced, of course ; ) at the Core Community Levels...Cleans out ALL the Psychoimposture from the bottom up by default!

Almost like carrying an electrically lit up sign "NO Psychopaths"...we are done with those days, now, now, now!

[Lancelot]

Brother Maya playing guitar, sat looking at laptop thinking we need free energy soon....

[astrid]

Dont get me started on psychopaths, had way too
many dealings with these types, it's why my life
is so isolated now . At least now i can pick them,
they have a certain very distinct energetic ordor .
The lack of empathy is a very dangerous and insidious
trait for which there is no cure .
They never ever seek help.

The most sneaky variety masquerade as do gooders,
finding your weaknesses and being there exactly at the
right time when you need help the most .
The abuse can be so subtle that you don't even notice
them inside your head . They are patient and
can sit in wait for years for that exact moment to make
their move. And by the time they have finished weaving
their web of deceit aroind you there is no escape.
Because you were so trusting you never for a second
ever suspected such evil could get so close to home .
Then when you finally figure it all out , get over the shock
that such people exist, and that you fell for it , you
have to start to build up yoir strength to plot and plan
your way out -all in secret .
Because these people never see themselves as
being unhealthy -'of course it's always everyone else's
fault, the only way out when you so webbed in is to
play them at their own game .
Which makes you hate yourself even more.
But at least it means you are finally free

Remember Nicole Kidmans role in Dead Calm and
you have some idea, times thiat over a few years and
you are closer to what it was like.

Enough said

[9eagle9]

They do don't they. Then there are those who aren't actually organically psychopaths but have the mind set of a psychopath, the conditioning wrought from psychopathy. The self serving subtle judgements, used to prop themselves up, everything you are and do is wrong but MY way is better I know what you need.

Completely know about knee jerking into hating yourself over it, exposing ourselves to that energy but it is so subtle so insidous.

.







Dont get me started on psychopaths, had way too
many dealings with these types, it's why my life
is so isolated now . At least now i can pick them,
they have a certain very distinct energetic ordor .
The lack of empathy is a very dangerous and insidious
trait for which there is no cure .
They never ever seek help.

The most sneaky variety masquerade as do gooders,
finding your weaknesses and being there exactly at the
right time when you need help the most .
The abuse can be so subtle that you don't even notice
them inside your head . They are patient and
can sit in wait for years for that exact moment to make
their move. And by the time they have finished weaving
their web of deceit aroind you there is no escape.
Because you were so trusting you never for a second
ever suspected such evil could get so close to home .
Then when you finally figure it all out , get over the shock
that such people exist, and that you fell for it , you
have to start to build up yoir strength to plot and plan
your way out -all in secret .
Because these people never see themselves as
being unhealthy -'of course it's always everyone else's
fault, the only way out when you so webbed in is to
play them at their own game .
Which makes you hate yourself even more.
But at least it means you are finally free

Remember Nicole Kidmans role in Dead Calm and
you have some idea, times thiat over a few years and
you are closer to what it was like.

Enough said

[PurpleLama]

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system.

Last night my family and myself had a grand time exploring a house that had been given to me, by a customer of mine. In the dream, she had passed and left this place to me, the house was huge and possessed elements of ancient temple and space ship. Although she had died, she was there out in the yard sitting on a large, raised, black dias. From that vantage it was very clear when I was awake and meditating on the dream, that the larger portion of the house was a ship, with the temple portion being built around it, with the ship still being totally intact. Talking with her outside, she told me something to tell her husband, who was still about the place, still living. I encountered him back inside and told him whatever it was she had said, and he seemed pleased and then indicated that he was soon to be leaving and was more happy to be doing so in light of her message. I saw him one more time during our exploration of the house, and we smiled and waved. I can remember clearly the passages and areas all through the outside structure and all through the periphery of the inside structure, but at the center of it all was a large, round, open space that I can remember the light in there but no other visual from that room. I had a very good feeling from this dream, it was a huge gift. I felt humbled by the granduer of this place being given. It was almost a jungle beyond the perimeter of the yard, very lush and verdant foilage.

[9eagle9]

So quick. I'm curious. Astrologically speaking what 'house' was it last night when this dream of PL's occured?

[ulli]

Last night's dream about today.....was about running around everywhere.... grabbing the lines.... and pouring electricity....through all of them. The entire system.

Last night my family and myself had a grand time exploring a house that had been given to me, by a customer of mine. In the dream, she had passed and left this place to me, the house was huge and possessed elements of ancient temple and space ship. Although she had died, she was there out in the yard sitting on a large, raised, black dias. From that vantage it was very clear when I was awake and meditating on the dream, that the larger portion of the house was a ship, with the temple portion being built around it, with the ship still being totally intact. Talking with her outside, she told me something to tell her husband, who was still about the place, still living. I encountered him back inside and told him whatever it was she had said, and he seemed pleased and then indicated that he was soon to be leaving and was more happy to be doing so in light of her message. I saw him one more time during our exploration of the house, and we smiled and waved. I can remember clearly the passages and areas all through the outside structure and all through the periphery of the inside structure, but at the center of it all was a large, round, open space that I can remember the light in there but no other visual from that room. I had a very good feeling from this dream, it was a huge gift. I felt humbled by the granduer of this place being given. It was almost a jungle beyond the perimeter of the yard, very lush and verdant foilage.


Sounds just like my rambling shack in Costa Rica...two former holiday cabins connected by a partial roof and surrounding an inner court yard. Jungle is right there.
Maybe I'll give it to you in my next life...have to see what my husband has to say about that first.;)

[Lisab]

Ive been dreaming of killer whales and weirdly so has my son ( the eldest).

[ulli]

@ PurpleLama
From the outside it looks like a ship...actually more like Noah's Ark.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11637&thumb=1&d=1322596012

[Carmody]

My grandfather, whom I am the spitting image of

Humped and stumped his way across the city of Hamburg

While completely covered in bandages

In the middle of the greatest firestorm that Hamburg ever endured

In order to confront my grandmother

Over his insanity.

[ulli]

My grandfather, whom I am the spitting image of

Humped and stumped his way across the city of Hamburg

While completely covered in bandages

In the middle of the greatest firestorm that Hamburg ever endured

In order to confront my grandmother

Over his insanity.

You mean he was blaming his wife for his insanity?
One more question...Hamburg firestorm...means the war was nearing it's end.
And you said earlier, your grandmother was Jewish, yet she was still free?
She had not been carted off to some concentration camp?
I don't mean to be intrusive yet these questions came up.

[Carmody]

My grandfather, whom I am the spitting image of

Humped and stumped his way across the city of Hamburg

While completely covered in bandages

In the middle of the greatest firestorm that Hamburg ever endured

In order to confront my grandmother

Over his insanity.

You mean he was blaming his wife for his insanity?
One more question...Hamburg firestorm...means the war was nearing it's end.
And you said earlier, your grandmother was Jewish, yet she was still free?
She had not been carted off to some concentration camp?
I don't mean to be intrusive yet these questions came up.

She had a first husband, who was German, who died before the war began. She kept his name.

So there she was, A Russian Polish Jew, in the middle of the war, in Germany.

Hiding in Plain sight.

Her parents had abandoned the Jewish thing to become 'just Germans' ---years before.

[ulli]

My grandfather, whom I am the spitting image of

Humped and stumped his way across the city of Hamburg

While completely covered in bandages

In the middle of the greatest firestorm that Hamburg ever endured

In order to confront my grandmother

Over his insanity.

You mean he was blaming his wife for his insanity?
One more question...Hamburg firestorm...means the war was nearing it's end.
And you said earlier, your grandmother was Jewish, yet she was still free?
She had not been carted off to some concentration camp?
I don't mean to be intrusive yet these questions came up.

She had a first husband, who was German, who died before the war began. She kept his name.

So there she was, A Russian Polish Jew, in the middle of the war, in Germany.

Hiding in Plain sight.

Her parents had abandoned the Jewish thing to become 'just Germans' ---years before.


Hmmm, interesting...and there was my mother's best friend, a non-Jewish German, whose name was Silberstein, and she had endless problems always having to prove her status as an Aryan.

[PurpleLama]

I don't know what house we are in, astrologically speaking, but pulling up todays chart from a few different places, they all look a lot like pentagrams to me. Hmmmm....

[Carmody]

My grandfather, whom I am the spitting image of

Humped and stumped his way across the city of Hamburg

While completely covered in bandages

In the middle of the greatest firestorm that Hamburg ever endured

In order to confront my grandmother

Over his insanity.

You mean he was blaming his wife for his insanity?
One more question...Hamburg firestorm...means the war was nearing it's end.
And you said earlier, your grandmother was Jewish, yet she was still free?
She had not been carted off to some concentration camp?
I don't mean to be intrusive yet these questions came up.

She had a first husband, who was German, who died before the war began. She kept his name.

So there she was, A Russian Polish Jew, in the middle of the war, in Germany.

Hiding in Plain sight.

Her parents had abandoned the Jewish thing to become 'just Germans' ---years before.


Hmmm, interesting...and there was my mother's best friend, a non-Jewish German, whose name was Silberstein, and she had endless problems always having to prove her status as an Arian.

The story is so odd and complex that its best left alone. Anything I say, like that, just creates more questions. All I know is that it is one hell of a story. Movie scripts wish they could be half as good.

I'm still not clear on how she manged to establish her Aryan heritage back at least 3 generations, which was necessary for her marriage to take place....all connected to the twisted policies of a failed ex-chicken farmer.

I mentioned it as I wanted to confer to Astrid that I know exactly what she means.

Like in the film, the chronicles of Riddick..where the bad guy meets Riddick and the bad guy says..'Are you.... familiar to me? Did we meet on some distant battlefield?"

I get that feeling when I meet a psychopath or child molester. I smell them. I sense them. It has never failed me.

[Marianne]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11638&thumb=1&d=1322596284 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11639&thumb=1&d=1322597627
These are two gorgeous freshwater pearl necklaces made by Ulli. The crystal & pearl one I gave to my sister, and the pearl one draped on rose quartz is all mine. Just sharing my joy.

[ulli]

I don't know what house we are in, astrologically speaking, but pulling up todays chart from a few different places, they all look a lot like pentagrams to me. Hmmmm....

Pentagrams are protective shapes. Made up of 5 72 degree angles. Hence the Pentagon...the Dept. of Defense.
Wizards stand inside them so the spirits which they summon to do their bidding won't hurt them.

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11638&thumb=1&d=1322596284 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11639&thumb=1&d=1322597627
These are two gorgeous freshwater pearl necklaces made by Ulli. The crystal & pearl one I gave to my sister, and the pearl one draped on rose quartz is all mine. Just sharing my joy.

OMG Junebug, you took those beautiful pictures?!
Would you like a job as resident photographer?
They make the beads look better than they look in real life.

[Lisab]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11638&thumb=1&d=1322596284 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11639&thumb=1&d=1322597627
These are two gorgeous freshwater pearl necklaces made by Ulli. The crystal & pearl one I gave to my sister, and the pearl one draped on rose quartz is all mine. Just sharing my joy.

Beautiful.

[jorr lundstrom]

Its 9.30 in the evening, dark outside and silent inside, exept for this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df-eLzao63I

[Lisab]

I'm confused. I was just lurking around on an astrology forum and it had a link to Graham Hancock at the Awake and Aware conference. I didnt know it was all up to watch now. Does anyone know anymore about this? Have any of you watched any of it? thanks x

[9eagle9]

I had an uncle (double Irish) that couldn't check into hotels in Florida as late as the mid 70's because he looked Jewish. Actually he looked like Gomez from the Addam's family. He always wondered what 'looking' jewish looked like and said he'd understand better if the registrars in the hotel would just bar him from the door for looking like Gomez rather than looking Jewish.

[ulli]

So quick. I'm curious. Astrologically speaking what 'house' was it last night when this dream of PL's occured?


One would have to know the hour and place of the dream, and then set up the chart of that moment. All twelve houses would be there, so a better question to ask might be what was rising (what was the Ascendant) at the time of the dream, then look what houses certain planets would be in... it all depends on the leading question.
For example if that chart had Pluto on the Ascendant it would indicate that PL really went astral traveling...also Neptune...
generally if one wants to see an indication of dreams, one would look at the 12th house, and what planets are in it, then what are the a sects to the other planets.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I'm confused. I was just lurking around on an astrology forum and it had a link to Graham Hancock at the Awake and Aware conference. I didnt know it was all up to watch now. Does anyone know anymore about this? Have any of you watched any of it? thanks x

Do you have a link?

[PurpleLama]

ascendant was scorpio with the sun, mercury, and the asc node, whatever that means. :D

[modwiz]

I don't know what house we are in, astrologically speaking, but pulling up todays chart from a few different places, they all look a lot like pentagrams to me. Hmmmm....

Pentagrams are protective shapes. Made up of 5 72 degree angles. Hence the Pentagon...the Dept. of Defense.
Wizards stand inside them so the spirits which they summon to do their bidding won't hurt them.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11638&thumb=1&d=1322596284 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=11639&thumb=1&d=1322597627
These are two gorgeous freshwater pearl necklaces made by Ulli. The crystal & pearl one I gave to my sister, and the pearl one draped on rose quartz is all mine. Just sharing my joy.

OMG Junebug, you took those beautiful pictures?!
Would you like a job as resident photographer?
They make the beads look better than they look in real life.

They sure do look good, and beautiful. I love wearing stones anywhere on my body. I do try to be mindful of certain stones be better placed. Hematite is one I get a little 'particular' about. It is a grounding stone and should be worn at or below the waist. IMO.

Your necklaces look absolutely yummy and very well balanced energetically and aesthetically.

BTW. I summon no spirits, but I engage in some very active partnering with elementals. Especially the 'leaders' of the four classical elements. As an Air sign I work a lot with Paralda, especially to bring me the nice warm Southern winds that the NE has been bathing in for the much of this Fall.

[ulli]

ascendant was scorpio with the sun, mercury, and the asc node, whatever that means. :D

It means the sun was rising at that moment, and Mercury, too. The sign of Scorpio is about penetration beyond the veil...hence it brings encounters with the occult.
Mercury rules your sign Gemini, so Mercury there meant communication channels opened up to receive hidden information from the beyond.
Now you have to figure out the symbolism of the message....who was that woman, and who was her husband.
It sounds to me like some kind of a bestowal...to make your home a center for spiritual education, and they will be present and give you support.

[modwiz]

Here and now it is stormy but warmish. I think cooler air is behind this. I will give it a day or two then back to warmer for a while. I figure until the Solstice the Southern breezes can prevail. The Maple trees need some real cold to make their syrup. I would be the last person to get in the way of that Magic.

I am enjoying the soggy weather, hearing the rain and wind blasting away at my Tower. The woodstove has the whole house nice and warm and dry. Life is good and I am in a sweet place.

[WhiteFeather]

Enjoying this disastrous rainy/cloudy/shyttey weather the chemtrail pilots have bestowed upon us for 3 straight days here in NY. There Reaping what they sowed in the sky. Karma is a Bitch.

[astrid]

hmm... been trying to post a longish one from my iphone and its not sending.
Not the most uplifting of posts, but still some things better said than not.
Will keep trying.

[ulli]

I had an invitation to go to the Barbados Yacht Club for an Independence Day Ball tonight.
I didn't accept it because I would have had to leave the Village for several hours.
So what does that make me?

[modwiz]

I had an invitation to go to the Barbados Yacht Club for an Independence Day Ball tonight.
I didn't accept it because I would have had to leave the Village for several hours.
So what does that make me?

Loyal? A gourmand of good conversation and uplifting commentary?

[ulli]

I had an invitation to go to the Barbados Yacht Club for an Independence Day Ball tonight.
I didn't accept it because I would have had to leave the Village for several hours.
So what does that make me?

Loyal? A gourmand of good conversation and uplifting commentary?

Modwiz, let's face it...you are projecting.

[9eagle9]

Enjoying this disastrous rainy/cloudy/shyttey weather the chemtrail pilots have bestowed upon us for 3 straight days here in NY. There Reaping what they sowed in the sky. Karma is a Bitch.

More's on the way then cause NY gets Michigans used weather ...not so much rain as a giant 7-11 opened in the sky and its raining slushies.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hey you crazy lot!

I always check in here from time to time, but it's hard to keep up with you all! Beautiful sunny but hot day here again, hoping for a big storm tonight to clear the air and refresh the senses. Just bought 2 pedestal fans for the bedrooms, have been doing without all these years, but it's time to wimp out, lol..

I'd like to share a very powerful and scary dream I had last night. Second time I've had a similar dream.

I'm in a car in the back seat, there are 2 other people in the car - don't know who they are, I yell out for the driver to miss a big, black dog, it gets hit, by us or someone else and the car starts to go backward and we are hurtling off the road into the ocean. I can see the ocean coming up to meet us, it looks real deep. (This is one of those really REAL dreams). At that moment I know this is it, I'm terrified but resigned to my fate. Lots of adrenaline rushing through my body. I'm going to die and my feeling is that I will accept 100% that this is my fate. When we hit the water I decide I will inhale the water deeply to get the death over quickly and as painlessly as possible.

On the moment of impact, I am immediately aware of my bed underneath me and the sheet covering me. In a semi lucid dreamstate I am so relieved it was just a dream. And go back to sleep with no problems.

Any thoughts?:twitch:

Love to all,
Lily

Edit: So hot here that 10 minutes ago, I put wet sheets on the line and now they are dry! Better take them off before they burst into flames.:flame:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Here and now, been working steady for 8 days. THe money issue is getting in my face. There's a lesson here I'm damned well just not getting. Incredible lows this last week, no offsetting highs, shucks. Been wanting to check in but not much good news to share. Then I realized that is exactly why I never talk to my parents or they to me - because I've always bad news and they don't want to hear of it.
But life is what it is. And I am what I am despite my earthly circumstance.
I sometimes wonder why are other peoples' problems so much easier to spot than my own? There's a clue in that, I'm sure. That's why one cannot heal on their own. And when I analyze my modus operandi over the years it is that I rely on myself, and nobody else. It ain't workin' out for me.
I've been told to stay with my lower self in this, see where it leads. Well, I don't like where it's leading, never have. I'm not sure I even understand the issue, really.
Except for two minor incidences of abandonment and one trivial bit of abuse before the age of four, I had a good childhood.
At 16 I lost my standing in the world, when my dad got transferred to Montreal from our small home town. I became anonymous and unnoticed, a far cry from where I seemed to be heading in my home town. I have focussed my efforts on this area because it seems obviously connected. I was put back a year because Quebec schools are superior to Ontario's, or some such crap. It is the first time of many to come where governmental policies affected my future. I never recovered and soon lost interest in school altogether. But never in learning. I have learned far more out of school than I ever learned in school and can easily hold my own against those professing authority in certain areas.
Ego, ego, ego. So sick of it, unable to make peace with it. Equally unable to forgive it or accept it. Or me, I guess, by extension. Is that it: I will not forgive myself?
Forgive what? I did what I had to do, I thought what I had to think - given the circumstances. It's all just what is - All Just Is (title of one of my books).
Still that agony of feeling incapable, helpless, beaten. Having my life prove it, daily. Very annoying. Hard to stay with that and stay connected to All That Is at the same time.
Nasty, squirming, back-against-the-wall feeling.
Being with it, being with it, being wi.......
Where, oh, where will it lead, you think?

[ulli]

@ Lily
I've had dreams that were similar.
Also about being immersed, and even breathing under water. Water means the source of life. Primal ocean. It means spiritual knowledge.
I have a feeling you are going to get a lot more guidance from your dreams. The two people in the front of the car are parts of yourself that have until now been running your life, but are not your true essence. They are more the personas that society has demanded you put up as a front, hence front seat drivers...and they aren't even doing a good job of driving your vehicle through life. Dogs are symbolic for faith and loyalty, and those aspects may have been run over due to carelessness...by them or others, the fact that this is not clear also means it's not important who.
It is possible that the dream was injected into you by spirit guides. The timing of the awakening at impact...I have had exactly the same kind of dream. As if someone wanted me to think about the dream, and search for it's meaning. In that kind of a dream the dreamer is always your eternal soul.

Nothing bad as such followed but I went through some deep soul searching later and became completely transformed.
For a while I became quite serious although later got back some of my old wit back.
But the old stuff no longer interested me. A few years later I had UFO sightings and was guided to investigate conspiracies and cover-ups.

[ulli]

Here and now, been working steady for 8 days. THe money issue is getting in my face. There's a lesson here I'm damned well just not getting. Incredible lows this last week, no offsetting highs, shucks. Been wanting to check in but not much good news to share. Then I realized that is exactly why I never talk to my parents or they to me - because I've always bad news and they don't want to hear of it.
But life is what it is. And I am what I am despite my earthly circumstance.
I sometimes wonder why are other peoples' problems so much easier to spot than my own? There's a clue in that, I'm sure. That's why one cannot heal on their own. And when I analyze my modus operandi over the years it is that I rely on myself, and nobody else. It ain't workin' out for me.
I've been told to stay with my lower self in this, see where it leads. Well, I don't like where it's leading, never have. I'm not sure I even understand the issue, really.
Except for two minor incidences of abandonment and one trivial bit of abuse before the age of four, I had a good childhood.
At 16 I lost my standing in the world, when my dad got transferred to Montreal from our small home town. I became anonymous and unnoticed, a far cry from where I seemed to be heading in my home town. I have focussed my efforts on this area because it seems obviously connected. I was put back a year because Quebec schools are superior to Ontario's, or some such crap. It is the first time of many to come where governmental policies affected my future. I never recovered and soon lost interest in school altogether. But never in learning. I have learned far more out of school than I ever learned in school and can easily hold my own against those professing authority in certain areas.
Ego, ego, ego. So sick of it, unable to make peace with it. Equally unable to forgive it or accept it. Or me, I guess, by extension. Is that it: I will not forgive myself?
Forgive what? I did what I had to do, I thought what I had to think - given the circumstances. It's all just what is - All Just Is (title of one of my books).
Still that agony of feeling incapable, helpless, beaten. Having my life prove it, daily. Very annoying. Hard to stay with that and stay connected to All That Is at the same time.
Nasty, squirming, back-against-the-wall feeling.
Being with it, being with it, being wi.......
Where, oh, where will it lead, you think?

It will lead to where it always has done: you landing on your feet, again and again.
I was married to a Pisces once...also known lots of them in my astrology career. Your sharing here is quite familiar.
But if you were to ask all the people who know you well what they would suggest you do, or what they think you are doing wrong, you would wiggle right out of facing that unpleasant reality check.
Then they get frustrated with you at not being able to help you and just when it looks like you are going under, whoops, you landed on your feet again.

Just keep writing your book, I think it's great. And ask the angels, or whoever you look up to, for discipline. Because that's the only thing that will see it come to fruition. Then you'll have a best seller.

[Lily de Cuir]

@ Lily
I've had dreams that were similar.
Also about being immersed, and even breathing under water. Water means the source of life. Primal ocean. It means spiritual knowledge.
I have a feeling you are going to get a lot more guidance from your dreams. The two people in the front of the car are parts of yourself that have until now been running your life, but are not your true essence. They are more the personas that society has demanded you put up as a front, hence front seat drivers...and they aren't even doing a good job of driving your vehicle through life. Dogs are symbolic for faith and loyalty, and those aspects may have been run over due to carelessness...by them or others, the fact that this is not clear also means it's not important who.
It is possible that the dream was injected into you by spirit guides. The timing of the awakening at impact...I have had exactly the same kind of dream. As if someone wanted me to think about the dream, and search for it's meaning. In that kind of a dream the dreamer is always your eternal soul.

Nothing bad as such followed but I went through some deep soul searching later and became completely transformed.
For a while I became quite serious although later got back some of my old wit back.
But the old stuff no longer interested me. A few years later I had UFO sightings and was guided to investigate conspiracies and cover-ups.

Hi Ulli!

Thanks for your interpretation, I agree, that was my understanding also. Only difference being the black dog (symbolising depression which I'm currently experiencing). The impact of awakening was a feeling that everything is going to be OK, it's part of a bigger picture, a transformation and evolving to another level within life experiences. Hope that doesn't sound too mumbo jumbo, lol, I'm a pretty straight talker.

I've also had dreams of breathing under water, as if it was completely natural. I mean, in the womb we are immersed in liquid and alive with a heartbeat!

UFO sightings, wow! That's one thing I'd like to see. Never seen one, but my girlfriend says 'be careful what you wish for', lol...

Wishing you a lovely day in your part of the world.:wave:

Cheers,
Lily
x

[Lord Sidious]

Sorry to hear that Lily.
I hope you can get past that soon.

[astrid]

@ Carmody . My fathers father was a failed chicken
farmer also, amongst other things, also psychopath.
Both sons, my father and uncle suffered at his hand,
I never met him but heard the stories and they are,
both damaged psychopaths with 5 children between them
all with varying degrees of anxiety disorders and or
addictions .
Addictions are rife in these toxic lineages, as is denial.
And it's the denial that makes the cancer so insidious
and hard to weed out . That is what I have always tried
to fight against . And why it's so hard for me this time
of year , with Xmas bringing family issues to the top of
the pile . I'm guessing another reason for fasting at this
time to break that patten . It's usually around 4 weeks
of nightmares and flashbacks worse if I choose to be
there in the physical. .

I openly discuss these issues, here and now partly
because Carmody has opened that door and partly
as a big part of the breeding ground for this insidious
abuse involves denial , isolation, and secrecy .
Also they thrive on you being too afraid to speak, and
when you do no one will believe you anyway as they
have crafted a perfect public persona for themselves.

My father the church leader held in such high esteem
" what a wonderful man and how lucky you are " etc etc.
The levels of denial was so thick that I didn't believe my
own eyes and ears and what's more, no one outside was
ever allowed inside, we could never bring friends home .
Only once an outsider saw him attack me and that
lead to a big part of my recovery. Any help I ever sort
he had connections to and i would be soon deemed as
crazy . He knew so many people that anything i ever
did he was always pulling strings behind my back
of course under the guise of " helping me" .
When I switched to fashion he was angry as he couldn't
pull any strings, but then be found a connection
somehow .
They also claimed some sort of sick
ownership over my body . Because he was a hospital
Chaplain he had medical connections, and my medical
history was always free access to them . Any appointment
I had they would know about , often I would find my
mother in the waiting room for " support" when I was
well over age to have my own doctors and told no one.
My sexual history still has a lot of unanswered questions
and memory lapses but I will find out be truth if it
takes until my last breath . I do l know that my father
again claimed ownership over that. When it became
obvious i was sexually active -( I was well in my 20s and
living with a boyfriend, during which time they told everyone
I had " gone Overseas " to avoid the shame I caused ),
my mother called me and told me that I had
" hurt my father so terribly and that he had never felt so
much pain since his mother died".
My mother being today controlled by him was very
much complicit . Note also that my fathers patriarchal
lineage were all Freemasons, one of them I think his
grandfather was very high level . Both his parents died
before I was born for the most part I know very little of
that side of the family it was never talked about .
So really half of my heritage is a mystery.

I know, not my most uplifting post .
But as I said these things thrive on not being made
public and I'm certainly not going to feed that beast .
My story has a happy ending as I got out and I'm
doing well , my mind is clear and my own.
What's more I'm part of the cleanup team .

Having had those experiences and
come out the other side means that you can't not
be part of the solution it in fact becomes
the main reason for taking your next breath .

[ulli]

@ Lily
I've had dreams that were similar.
Also about being immersed, and even breathing under water. Water means the source of life. Primal ocean. It means spiritual knowledge.
I have a feeling you are going to get a lot more guidance from your dreams. The two people in the front of the car are parts of yourself that have until now been running your life, but are not your true essence. They are more the personas that society has demanded you put up as a front, hence front seat drivers...and they aren't even doing a good job of driving your vehicle through life. Dogs are symbolic for faith and loyalty, and those aspects may have been run over due to carelessness...by them or others, the fact that this is not clear also means it's not important who.
It is possible that the dream was injected into you by spirit guides. The timing of the awakening at impact...I have had exactly the same kind of dream. As if someone wanted me to think about the dream, and search for it's meaning. In that kind of a dream the dreamer is always your eternal soul.

Nothing bad as such followed but I went through some deep soul searching later and became completely transformed.
For a while I became quite serious although later got back some of my old wit back.
But the old stuff no longer interested me. A few years later I had UFO sightings and was guided to investigate conspiracies and cover-ups.

Hi Ulli!

Thanks for your interpretation, I agree, that was my understanding also. Only difference being the black dog (symbolising depression which I'm currently experiencing). The impact of awakening was a feeling that everything is going to be OK, it's part of a bigger picture, a transformation and evolving to another level within life experiences. Hope that doesn't sound too mumbo jumbo, lol, I'm a pretty straight talker.

I've also had dreams of breathing under water, as if it was completely natural. I mean, in the womb we are immersed in liquid and alive with a heartbeat!

UFO sightings, wow! That's one thing I'd like to see. Never seen one, but my girlfriend says 'be careful what you wish for', lol...

Wishing you a lovely day in your part of the world.:wave:

Cheers,
Lily
x


I get depressed myself. One of the main reasons I studied astrology. I really wanted to understand those senseless ups and downs.
I was never diagnosed with bi-polar, but now looking back at my life I do think I suffered a mild form of it.
Like writer's block. Staring at a big white sheet of paper, and no inspiration comes. Later staring at a knitting machine...same thing.
And then the slightest thing can trigger the creative juices to flow again. All along, it was always astrological.

[astrid]

Note too, that last post.
It took me 12 hours to get it up online.
Many forces were working hard to stop that from happening.
Which just makes me dig in even deeper.
They want to mess with me, bring it.
i'm more than ready.

[ulli]

Note too, that last post.
It took me 12 hours to get it up online.
Many forces were working hard to stop that from happening.
Which just makes me dig in even deeper.
They want to mess with me, bring it.
i'm more than ready.

Great spirit. You go, girl. Your sharing here is not only helping and healing to yourself but many others who read here.
And at a deeper level will even reach your father's soul as well. We are living in a special age. Long live the Internet. I've been sayong it for more than ten years now...the Internet is the Return of Christ.

[astrid]

Just after that last one, the weather here went from sunny and calm, to a squall,
complete with howling wind, thunder lightening and pelting rain,
for like 4 mins, and then back to calm again.

Seems like the elements are in agreement.

[Carmody]

The light, By the way, is also a sound. A sound so strong, so intense, all permeating that the idea of it rattling your bones is far too weak of a comparison. It permeates all life, all being, all thought, all existence, all presence and awareness, it dominates all. All time, all awareness, everything but the light and the sound as a single moment of now that has no beginning and no end.

the sound of the light is slightly de-tuned, it is a complex Solfeggio scale harmonic of multiple notes. There is a 'sound' scientific reason for that.

This reminds me of it:

The Deep and Lovely Quiet (http://www.mrtzcmp3.net/Listen?a=4863m83268192&b=UxlQd0&c=faf3af3b04f2&d=458&artist=Bersarin%20Quartett&song=The%20Deep%20And%20Lovely%20Quiet)

(this is the only link I can find on the net, of the original mix, which is the correct one. Do not download it, just play it from that player)

hmmm...it says: your country (Barbados) is not supported.
Shucks.

Try this one. it is the Bersarin Quartett version.

http://www.mrtzcmp3.net/Bersarin_Quartett_The_Deep_And_Lovely_Quiet_1s.html

I fixed this link. I thought it worked, but it seemed to fail...?

When there, click on any version, it will take you to an imbedded player that functions.

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Note too, that last post.
It took me 12 hours to get it up online.
Many forces were working hard to stop that from happening.
Which just makes me dig in even deeper.
They want to mess with me, bring it.
i'm more than ready.

Great spirit. You go, girl. Your sharing here is not only helping and healing to yourself but many others who read here.
And at a deeper level will even reach your father's soul as well. We are living in a special age. Long live the Internet. I've been saying it for more than ten years now...the Internet is the Return of Christ.

I waited a long time for the net to appear.

[ulli]

Try this one. it is the Bersarin Quartett version.

http://www.mrtzcmp3.net/Bersarin_Quartett_The_Deep_And_Lovely_Quiet_1s.html

I fixed this link. I thought it worked, but it seemed to fail...?

When there, click on any version, it will take you to an imbedded player that functions.[COLOR="red"]

[/QUOTE]

I really appreciate you persevering with this. I will try again when I'm back in Costa Rica next week. maybe it will work there.
Meanwhile I searched for the Bersarin Quartett on Youtube and found this gem:


hsSh2_o_1zU

[astrid]

i noticed a few are saying they have been feeling down.
Yesterday i felt that too.
It took me a while to orientate myself.
I did some journalling and some Tarot, and
got more of a handle on where i was at.

For me, it was a real void feeling, of being past one thing,
but not yet ready to move into the next space.
Then i realized that i was in the great hall of possibilities,
where anything is possible. It's generally uncomfortable,
often extremely so if you don't understand where you are at,
or are still clinging onto the past.
To me it just felt like i had been abandoned by all my guidance,
and was looking at lots and lots of doorways. And the longer i sat
in that space then more doorways appeared.
Too much choice can be just as scarey as no choice at all.

Non- attachment helps, maintaining your witness mode also.
This like all shifts passes.

Collectively we have a window of change between now and next June,
those wanting and ready to let go and move on things, will be able to,
those still having issues getting traction on things might find it
harder and experience some low times from not quite achieving
what they hoped to.

@ Ernie, don't hold back on the sharing, you will find it makes a big difference
when you see things laid out like that. It creates spaces around and between things, so fresh air
can move in and around, giving you new insights to old patterns.
In the reflection of others much can be seen, alone its much slower going.

[Calz]

Then i realized that i was in the great hall of possibilities,
where anything is possible.

I luv that :)

[eaglespirit]

@ Carmody . My fathers father was a failed chicken
farmer also, amongst other things, also psychopath.
Both sons, my father and uncle suffered at his hand,
I never met him but heard the stories and they are,
both damaged psychopaths with 5 children between them
all with varying degrees of anxiety disorders and or
addictions .
Addictions are rife in these toxic lineages, as is denial.
And it's the denial that makes the cancer so insidious
and hard to weed out . That is what I have always tried
to fight against . And why it's so hard for me this time
of year , with Xmas bringing family issues to the top of
the pile . I'm guessing another reason for fasting at this
time to break that patten . It's usually around 4 weeks
of nightmares and flashbacks worse if I choose to be
there in the physical. .

I openly discuss these issues, here and now partly
because Carmody has opened that door and partly
as a big part of the breeding ground for this insidious
abuse involves denial , isolation, and secrecy .
Also they thrive on you being too afraid to speak, and
when you do no one will believe you anyway as they
have crafted a perfect public persona for themselves.

My father the church leader held in such high esteem
" what a wonderful man and how lucky you are " etc etc.
The levels of denial was so thick that I didn't believe my
own eyes and ears and what's more, no one outside was
ever allowed inside, we could never bring friends home .
Only once an outsider saw him attack me and that
lead to a big part of my recovery. Any help I ever sort
he had connections to and i would be soon deemed as
crazy . He knew so many people that anything i ever
did he was always pulling strings behind my back
of course under the guise of " helping me" .
When I switched to fashion he was angry as he couldn't
pull any strings, but then be found a connection
somehow .
They also claimed some sort of sick
ownership over my body . Because he was a hospital
Chaplain he had medical connections, and my medical
history was always free access to them . Any appointment
I had they would know about , often I would find my
mother in the waiting room for " support" when I was
well over age to have my own doctors and told no one.
My sexual history still has a lot of unanswered questions
and memory lapses but I will find out be truth if it
takes until my last breath . I do l know that my father
again claimed ownership over that. When it became
obvious i was sexually active -( I was well in my 20s and
living with a boyfriend, during which time they told everyone
I had " gone Overseas " to avoid the shame I caused ),
my mother called me and told me that I had
" hurt my father so terribly and that he had never felt so
much pain since his mother died".
My mother being today controlled by him was very
much complicit . Note also that my fathers patriarchal
lineage were all Freemasons, one of them I think his
grandfather was very high level . Both his parents died
before I was born for the most part I know very little of
that side of the family it was never talked about .
So really half of my heritage is a mystery.

I know, not my most uplifting post .
But as I said these things thrive on not being made
public and I'm certainly not going to feed that beast .
My story has a happy ending as I got out and I'm
doing well , my mind is clear and my own.
What's more I'm part of the cleanup team .

Having had those experiences and
come out the other side means that you can't not
be part of the solution it in fact becomes
the main reason for taking your next breath .

Astrid...I just wanted to send Love to You, it is an empowering thing to share among Friends here, and We are Your Friends in ways beyond words.
I understand this was addressed to Carmody but I just wanted to Thank You for opening up here...it is so important to lay things out to People that really care...each of Us can empathize in some strong way. You have within You the ability to move mountains of misery(out of the way for good) that have disabled many, many People in this world. You are the epitome of example of Fortitude and Higher Good!

[Cottage Rose]

She had a first husband, who was German, who died before the war began. She kept his name.

So there she was, A Russian Polish Jew, in the middle of the war, in Germany.

Hiding in Plain sight.

Her parents had abandoned the Jewish thing to become 'just Germans' ---years before.


The story is so odd and complex that its best left alone. Anything I say, like that, just creates more questions. All I know is that it is one hell of a story. Movie scripts wish they could be half as good.

I'm still not clear on how she manged to establish her Aryan heritage back at least 3 generations, which was necessary for her marriage to take place....all connected to the twisted policies of a failed ex-chicken farmer.

I mentioned it as I wanted to confer to Astrid that I know exactly what she means.

Like in the film, the chronicles of Riddick..where the bad guy meets Riddick and the bad guy says..'Are you.... familiar to me? Did we meet on some distant battlefield?"

I get that feeling when I meet a psychopath or child molester. I smell them. I sense them. It has never failed me.

Very interesting. I have an unusual grandmother/grandfather story.

I suppose I am 1/4 German? Not really sure. My maternal Grandfather's family name was Packen???? something. His family adopted a new ending to their name when they immigrated to America.

My Grandmother, (English), was unhappily married to him for many years. It was during the Great Depression. All of my Grandfather's family moved in with them in their small home behind their tailor/clothes cleaners shop. Of some interest is the fact that Bonnie and Clyde Barrow the notorious Texas bank robbers were their good customers.

My Grandmother eventually divorced my mother's father and married my father's father (Scotch/Irish). My mother met my father at the train station when he came home from WW2 and they married. So, I grew up in a family unit comprised of my mother, her mother, my father and his father. We always lived in the same house or duplex. I thought we were all telepathic in my early years until I realized differently.

My mother's father was consequently an outcast in the family unit and seldom spoken of. So, I learned very little about my German heritage. I would like to have known more.

[astrid]

@ eaglespirit thank you.

The aim of that post was really to highlight that its time for these things to be public knowledge.
This thread is but a reflection of the micro seeding the macro, especially with the sacred space we have
created here. It's magical power is building by the day, and can't be understated.

And It really takes the wind out of their sails, when you stand square on to them and
expose them for who they are, they really don't expect that.
Arrogance and ego is their weakness and will be their downfall.
Also living wholly in the primitive, always reactive, reptilian brain
means they are very, very predictable.
Basically they are common thugs that have everyone running scared.

It's been a very, very long battle for me to get where i am.
I have always been blessed with a resilience that
defies logic, and which sometimes worked against me.

One angle of perception shows a life lost, and in many ways that's true, i
certainly don't get to enjoy the day to day things that many take for granted.
But its all relative, i have no reference points for joy, happiness, love as most know it,
and generally feeling safe. So i know no difference.
But seriously, all that i care about is that my journey has been for a purpose,
and if i can save one person from falling prey to the same fate i will do it.
I'm 99% of the time a peaceful, hermit.
But put me in a room with someone abusing a child a I'm hell on earth.


Ok... now time to recenter.

[Cottage Rose]

Its 9.30 in the evening, dark outside and silent inside, exept for this:

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 21 - Andante

One of my very favorites, Jorr. Thank you for posting it.

I miss speaking with you and Maria.

Hope all is well on your side of the world.

[Lisab]

Im off to work now. I dont how to do links (sorry!) so when I get back tonight, perhaps someone can talk me thru. Hope everyone has a great day/eve. Thanks for sharing Astrid and Ernie. Peace to you both. And Lily too.xxx

[ViralSpiral]

Ulli! Those necklaces are exquisite!!

Astrid, thank you for your deep sharing/teaching/learning.

Leap, and the net will appear - Zen saying


This is the gorgeous morning that greeted me

http://i44.tinypic.com/w5jmg.jpg


See the crows Lord Sid?

[modwiz]

OK. Here and now. Spent a very busy day 'out there' working in the other threads of Avalon. I forgot how it is not always smooth sailing in some threads. I am getting ready to head off to bed it is 5:33 AM by me. I have missed being here, in the village, but Carmody,s brilliant thread pulled me out of here. I have to say I feel pleased that one of our own villagers was able to bring something important to the rest of the Avalon world. It is a subject of extreme importance and despite decent response it needs more. I am hoping to see some of the regular visitors there start to get what it is that Carmody is offering up there. It is a selfless act of great bravery. Anyone who has been keeping up with him knows he gets buzzed when he broaches certain subjects. Sometimes all he has to do it think them and he gets a 'visit' of some kind.

This village has some special people in it and it is good to be a part of it.

Blessings to all and an extra one for Carmody.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Ulli! Those necklaces are exquisite!!

Astrid, thank you for your deep sharing/teaching/learning.

Leap, and the net will appear - Zen saying


This is the gorgeous morning that greeted me

http://i44.tinypic.com/w5jmg.jpg


See the crows Lord Sid?


Well, if it isn't a murder of crows. Most fitting for a Sith Lord.

[ulli]

OK. Here and now. Spent a very busy day 'out there' working in the other threads of Avalon. I forgot how it is not always smooth sailing in some threads. I am getting ready to head off to bed it is 5:33 AM by me. I have missed being here, in the village, but Carmody,s brilliant thread pulled me out of here. I have to say I feel pleased that one of our own villagers was able to bring something important to the rest of the Avalon world. It is a subject of extreme importance and despite decent response it needs more. I am hoping to see some of the regular visitors there start to get what it is the Carmody is offering up there. It is a selfless act of great bravery. Anyone who has been keeping up with him knows he gets buzzed when he broaches certain subjects. Sometimes all he has to do it think them and he gets a 'visit' of some kind.

This village has some special people in it and it is good to be a part of it.

Blessings to all and an extra one for Carmody.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Ulli! Those necklaces are exquisite!!

Astrid, thank you for your deep sharing/teaching/learning.

Leap, and the net will appear - Zen saying


This is the gorgeous morning that greeted me

http://i44.tinypic.com/w5jmg.jpg


See the crows Lord Sid?


Well, if it isn't a murder of crows. Most fitting for a Sith Lord.

The fact that Carmody and yourself and soon others are stepping forth into the world with such resolve and valor is proof that the Village provides something special.
As it has been doing all along and will continue to do even longer.........................
:flypig::plane::cheer2:

[Lily de Cuir]

Hello All,

I'm intrigued. I started a thread about Lord Sid's use of the term 'nuggets', and now I can't access the post. Says the Server is not working. Seems to be working OK on this thread!

Hopefully it's just a glitch...yes of course.:p

Cheers, Lily

Edit: Sorry to be off topic, only way I could say something without being censored, that is if this is not censored also.

[ulli]

Hello All,

I'm intrigued. I started a thread about Lord Sid's use of the term 'nuggets', and now I can't access the post. Says the Server is not working. Seems to be working OK on this thread!

Hopefully it's just a glitch...yes of course.:p

Cheers, Lily

It wasn't working then came back as you switched threads. Just to show you that you belong here.
Besides, the nugget thing has been resolved.
Since we are all nuggets it was never really an issue.

[Calz]

Hello All,

I'm intrigued. I started a thread about Lord Sid's use of the term 'nuggets', and now I can't access the post. Says the Server is not working. Seems to be working OK on this thread!

Hopefully it's just a glitch...yes of course.:p

Cheers, Lily

Server Busy message implies the server hosting the forum was under duress ... perhaps too many people demanding an explanation of Sid's nugget demise??? :lol:

[PurpleLama]

On my way back from dreamtime, this morning, I was hearing this song:

ITvgTG65R8Y

"freedom's got to come from within
yes it does
not with a gun
freedom is the ability to feel love for everyone"

[ulli]

On my way back from dreamtime, this morning, I was hearing this song:



"freedom's got to come from within
yes it does
not with a gun
freedom is the ability to feel love for everyone"

Nice message and I must say I'm a bit relieved, which could mean a sign of a lack of inner freedom on my part,
but never mind, nobody is perfect...
I'm relieved that the video you posted didn't have a catchy tune with which to entrap me for days...
which has happened in the past with tunes like jingle bells.....
But then maybe the freedom from feeling slightly irritated all the time is something I need to work on.
Turning off the TV has helped big time.....
Here in Barbados I don't even have to listen to GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! every ten minutes...
and the nearest cricketers live a mile up the hill.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

On my way back from dreamtime, this morning, I was hearing this song:

ITvgTG65R8Y

"freedom's got to come from within
yes it does
not with a gun
freedom is the ability to feel love for everyone"

Hello All, Good day to you, here and now. I had an interesting night of dreams last night too, PL. The final sequence before I was awakened by my wife (the only thing that makes her jealous in this whole world is if I am asleep and she is awake; I guess it could always be worse) had me playing in a soccer game where my team was outmatched and outplayed in every way. In real life I am a defender, left back, but in the dream I was the sole striker. I was sluggish, slow, and frustrated, and so were my teammates, but somehow, we ended beating the opposing team 3-0, and I somehow scored all three goals despite having hindered mobility (3 is also my lucky number frequently occurring synchronistically in all areas of my life). I felt like I had a tractor beam directed on me slowing me down. I woke up feeling haggard and sore, but once I shook off the dream I felt energized and accomplished, as if my duties for this day had already been accomplished subconsciously. I'm on easy street today! Blessings to all!

[dan33]

The mongolian chef raising his spork!? Thanks for the links.

For the last couple of years I just dont seem to dream like I used to. My dreams meant everything to me and gave me a good idea of where I was at. Now in my dreams its like I know Im dreaming but Im watching it like a movie. None of them seem to make sense anymore. Cartoonish. Ive read other people seem to be going thru this and blaming on the shift. Also as soon as I wake up the memory instantly fades. Before I used to get instant recall. Man I miss my dreams;

have you moved toward the 'writing it down as you awaken' method? I find that brings them back again, when they are in the mode of fading.

From 2 or three monyhs ago, my dreams are a mess. Always travelling, bus, underground, train, airplaine..... airports, underground stations, highways, ..... I wake up sweating and my heart beating fast.

Carmody and Lisab, thanks.

That means your inner seeker is really waking up.
Travel is Jupiter/Sagittarius, which at dream level means expansion through learning of higher truths.
The more desperate the soul in it's search the closer the moment of enlightenment.

Thanks Ulli :)

Last night i was in London and I missed the flight to Paris.
Three days ago i was in a huge underground station, it was under construction.
Last week in Los Angeles, Westwood 555 Kelton Ave.
I think every night is the same. Catch that flight, train....hurry up....oh! i'm lost......really? :) it's funny also.


Another thing goes to my mind now. When i was receiving tarot classes, the teacher said something about astral travel.

- "You can't get into the Pentagon or in the Vatican Library.
The doors are sealed."

Many years have passed away and I still remember that moment.

[ulli]

@ Dan_33
You remember that moment because it was the truth.
When consciousness jumps high that's when memory works best.
Strong shocks or surprises make consciousness levels jump.
Ordinary routine leaves little that is memorable.

Travel is the best way to maintain a high alertness level, as each moment is new and it's hard to predict what will happen next.
Aries hates nothing more than boredom.

[ulli]

On my way back from dreamtime, this morning, I was hearing this song:

ITvgTG65R8Y

"freedom's got to come from within
yes it does
not with a gun
freedom is the ability to feel love for everyone"

Hello All, Good day to you, here and now. I had an interesting night of dreams last night too, PL. The final sequence before I was awakened by my wife (the only thing that makes her jealous in this whole world is if I am asleep and she is awake; I guess it could always be worse) had me playing in a soccer game where my team was outmatched and outplayed in every way. In real life I am a defender, left back, but in the dream I was the sole striker. I was sluggish, slow, and frustrated, and so were my teammates, but somehow, we ended beating the opposing team 3-0, and I somehow scored all three goals despite having hindered mobility (3 is also my lucky number frequently occurring synchronistically in all areas of my life). I felt like I had a tractor beam directed on me slowing me down. I woke up feeling haggard and sore, but once I shook off the dream I felt energized and accomplished, as if my duties for this day had already been accomplished subconsciously. I'm on easy street today! Blessings to all!

Remembering that the dreamer is your soul and the soccer match is your life.
To me this dream says that despite the fact you are not performing at your best yet you still win.
That means the dream wants yo to know that you are receiving help from somewhere, and that you are assisted by "luck".
So it's a message from invisible helpers.
Whether they work for the dark side or the light side I don't know.

[Lord Sidious]

Ulli! Those necklaces are exquisite!!

Astrid, thank you for your deep sharing/teaching/learning.

Leap, and the net will appear - Zen saying


This is the gorgeous morning that greeted me

http://i44.tinypic.com/w5jmg.jpg


See the crows Lord Sid?

I do indeed.
Thanks for that.
I love to see trees full of birds.

[modwiz]

Hello All,

I'm intrigued. I started a thread about Lord Sid's use of the term 'nuggets', and now I can't access the post. Says the Server is not working. Seems to be working OK on this thread!

Hopefully it's just a glitch...yes of course.:p

Cheers, Lily

It wasn't working then came back as you switched threads. Just to show you that you belong here.
Besides, the nugget thing has been resolved.
Since we are all nuggets it was never really an issue.

It has been made an issue by our heroic mod/admins. Lord Sid has been given a weeks vacation. Avalon has been made safe and secured for insecure egos.

[ulli]

Hello All,

I'm intrigued. I started a thread about Lord Sid's use of the term 'nuggets', and now I can't access the post. Says the Server is not working. Seems to be working OK on this thread!

Hopefully it's just a glitch...yes of course.:p

Cheers, Lily

It wasn't working then came back as you switched threads. Just to show you that you belong here.
Besides, the nugget thing has been resolved.
Since we are all nuggets it was never really an issue.

It has been made am issue by our heroic mod/admins. Lord Sid has been given a weeks vacation. Avalon has been made safe and secured for insecure egos.

Shall we dance? Tango, please!!!

[ViralSpiral]

http://iamkio.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/lolcat-1april-limecat.jpg

[Guest]

Today- i'm off to pay the auto insurance, wash the dishes and make dinner.... computer is still in the shop would shake hands w/ mercury i'm just too darn stubborn -must be the leo in me....

See you later on for tonite when the chores are completed


Nora the cedar tree nugget:thumb:

We are all related

[dan33]

We are all related

THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR.

"you're gonna be a very lonely man" Bob's picture turns black and white .... goosebumps...!!!

bc2-fNj4t1M

[modwiz]

Here and now coming for a quick visit to a sweet cyber-place. Nuggets and psychopaths call elsewhere for a reasoned presence. Kisses to all. Gender be damned.

[eaglespirit]

We are all related

THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR.

"you're gonna be a very lonely man" Bob picture's turns black and white .... goosebumps...!!!

bc2-fNj4t1M

They WILL Print It...and Mother Earth IS About To Be FLOODED By Stories!!!
The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!

[dan33]

We are all related

THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR.

"you're gonna be a very lonely man" Bob picture's turns black and white .... goosebumps...!!!

bc2-fNj4t1M

They WILL Print It...and Mother Earth IS About To Be FLOODED By Stories!!!
The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!

eaglespirit flying high :)

[dan33]

We are all related

THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR.

"you're gonna be a very lonely man" Bob picture's turns black and white .... goosebumps...!!!

bc2-fNj4t1M

They WILL Print It...and Mother Earth IS About To Be FLOODED By Stories!!!
The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!

eaglespirit flying high :)

The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!
Sometimes when you're unfolding ... there're suprises .... :)

... but, anyway, We Are All Related ! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9K_oxIsSx8

hugs, eaglespirit

OVERLOOK HOTEL
July 4th Ball
1921

there and then, what happened.

We are all related (trademark by Nora)

[modwiz]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

[dan33]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

[Guest]

We are all related

THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR.

"you're gonna be a very lonely man" Bob picture's turns black and white .... goosebumps...!!!

bc2-fNj4t1M

They WILL Print It...and Mother Earth IS About To Be FLOODED By Stories!!!
The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!

eaglespirit flying high :)

The GREAT Unfolding IS Here!!!
Sometimes when you're unfolding ... there're suprises .... :)

... but, anyway, We Are All Related ! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9K_oxIsSx8

hugs, eaglespirit

OVERLOOK HOTEL
July 4th Ball
1921

there and then, what happened.

We are all related (trademark by Nora)

The trade mark is owned by Spirit.... And said that i could walk with it and embrace it while i was on earth.... It is up for grabs for those willing to walk with it too.... -it is a beautiful way and heartfelt way and i do fall short a lot but do the best ican always with love in my heart growing learning becoming more aware unfolding in the here and now being present

Modwiz would say Love....

Nora

We are all related

[modwiz]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

Dan, I see you are from Spain. Carmody is a hard study in English, as a first language. If English is not your primary language than you are to be commended for reading the lithium thread. That thread is like a filter. Not many make it through there. People scream for disclosure and Carmody has been pulling back the veil for many months here now. Like the emperors clothes, they may as well not be there for many. I laugh when I think of people who are sent to watch these threads and forums. Minion types. I know most of them go cross-eyed looking at that material. Steam has come out of my ears on occasion.

Check out his latest thread. It has more real time application as in, it's really time to apply this information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths&p=367906#post367906

Saludos

[Cottage Rose]

On my way back from dreamtime, this morning, I was hearing this song:



"freedom's got to come from within
yes it does
not with a gun
freedom is the ability to feel love for everyone"

Nice message and I must say I'm a bit relieved, which could mean a sign of a lack of inner freedom on my part,
but never mind, nobody is perfect...
I'm relieved that the video you posted didn't have a catchy tune with which to entrap me for days...
which has happened in the past with tunes like jingle bells.....
But then maybe the freedom from feeling slightly irritated all the time is something I need to work on.
Turning off the TV has helped big time.....
Here in Barbados I don't even have to listen to GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! every ten minutes...
and the nearest cricketers live a mile up the hill.

I feel the same, Ulli. :doh:

I recently heard Grass Roots "Where Were You When I Needed You". I was so sorry I did. I could not get it out of my mind for days. It was running like a subliminal program and I found I was experiencing an irritable feeling each time I caught the unconscious loop enveloping my mind like a tangled weed.
I am usually so cautious of any media I allow in. But, a sense of nostalgia got the better of me at a time I was already irritated for another reason and I listened to it twice.

It is certainly a diligent task tending the garden of our minds.

[dan33]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

Dan, I see you are from Spain. Carmody is a hard study in English, as a first language. If English is not your primary language than you are to be commended for reading the lithium thread. That thread is like a filter. Not many make it through there. People scream for disclosure and Carmody has been pulling back the veil for many months here now. Like the emperors clothes, they may as well not be there for many. I laugh when I think of people who are sent to watch these threads and forums. Minion types. I know most of them go cross-eyed looking at that material. Steam has come out of my ears on occasion.

Check out his latest thread. It has more real time application as in, it's really time to apply this information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths&p=367906#post367906

Saludos

I love to read Carmody's Lithium thread on sunday mornings. Saying to myself, wow!!! really.

Who is this guy!!!

[modwiz]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

Dan, I see you are from Spain. Carmody is a hard study in English, as a first language. If English is not your primary language than you are to be commended for reading the lithium thread. That thread is like a filter. Not many make it through there. People scream for disclosure and Carmody has been pulling back the veil for many months here now. Like the emperors clothes, they may as well not be there for many. I laugh when I think of people who are sent to watch these threads and forums. Minion types. I know most of them go cross-eyed looking at that material. Steam has come out of my ears on occasion.

Check out his latest thread. It has more real time application as in, it's really time to apply this information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths&p=367906#post367906

Saludos

I love to read the Lithium thread on sunday mornings. Saying to mayself, wow!!! really.

Who is this guy!!!

One of the villagers. Lucky us. We don't even need a translator.

Either that or, Stranger From A Strange Land.

[dan33]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

Dan, I see you are from Spain. Carmody is a hard study in English, as a first language. If English is not your primary language than you are to be commended for reading the lithium thread. That thread is like a filter. Not many make it through there. People scream for disclosure and Carmody has been pulling back the veil for many months here now. Like the emperors clothes, they may as well not be there for many. I laugh when I think of people who are sent to watch these threads and forums. Minion types. I know most of them go cross-eyed looking at that material. Steam has come out of my ears on occasion.

Check out his latest thread. It has more real time application as in, it's really time to apply this information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths&p=367906#post367906

Saludos

I love to read the Lithium thread on sunday mornings. Saying to mayself, wow!!! really.

Who is this guy!!!

One of the villagers. Lucky us. We don't even need a translator.

Either that or, Stranger From A Strange Land.

...yes. that novel..... Stranger in a strange Land :)

http://www.freewebs.com/yotopia2/Heinlein-Stranger-In-A-Strange-Land.pdf

[pheonix]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

[modwiz]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.

[Carmody]

Stranger in a strange land is a great book. Read it when I was about 15-16. Also read 'Time enough for Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_for_Love)', which is probably his best work.

[pheonix]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

[9eagle9]

i retreated back here staggering and holding my head at it all. haaaaaaa whaaaaaaaa?


But not before....going out on this this clear cold snowy evening with a huge horned moon laying low in the sky and fed the horfs. And then shoveled some actual, non verbal **** (yes sir, yes sir twenty-THREE bags full) and watched them play in the snow , under the moon. Liiam, my special if pushy pet, the big flea speckled white with the long blonde eyelashes framing his limpid eyes ,looked particularly faery-ish this evening.

Assuming that faeries don't wear boots but have special prostetic hooves.

Nougat anyone? ;)


Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

[modwiz]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

Ya got me. The next answer would have cost you money anyway, so good thing. :noidea:

[Calz]

i retreated back here staggering and holding my head at it all. haaaaaaa whaaaaaaaa?


But not before....going out on this this clear cold snowy evening with a huge horned moon laying low in the sky and fed the horfs. And then shoveled some actual, non verbal **** (yes sir, yes sir twenty-THREE bags full) and watched them play in the snow , under the moon. Liiam, my special if pushy pet, the big flea speckled white with the long blonde eyelashes framing his limpid eyes ,looked particularly faery-ish this evening.

Assuming that faeries don't wear boots but have special prostetic hooves.

Nougat anyone? ;)


Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.


There is a song in there somewhere but it will need to wait until I am home to post it (if my wee brain can remember).

But Sidiously folks ... what modwiz says is correct.

While I am not privy to all the details of PMs and what was said behind the scene ... it is worth a bit of protest that Sid is gone for a week (again).

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

Anyway ... I expect the the focus will soon return to H&N and Carmody's pivotal thread.

It will not be ... *negated* :doh:

[Carmody]

Stranger in a strange land is a great book. Read it when I was about 15-16. Also read 'Time enough for Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_for_Love)', which is probably his best work.

My mother even had had a 7 toed ( 6 on the back)silver tiger striped stub tailed mini-manx cat.....that I named....Pixel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cat_Who_Walks_Through_Walls).

[pheonix]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

Ya got me. The next answer would have cost you money anyway, so good thing. :noidea:Its my birth date. I knew that 19.5 was special for some reason but 1967 ? How many on this forum have the same birth date ? I would run a poll if i knew how to ! Thanks.

[modwiz]

i retreated back here staggering and holding my head at it all. haaaaaaa whaaaaaaaa?


But not before....going out on this this clear cold snowy evening with a huge horned moon laying low in the sky and fed the horfs. And then shoveled some actual, non verbal **** (yes sir, yes sir twenty-THREE bags full) and watched them play in the snow , under the moon. Liiam, my special if pushy pet, the big flea speckled white with the long blonde eyelashes framing his limpid eyes ,looked particularly faery-ish this evening.

Assuming that faeries don't wear boots but have special prostetic hooves.

Nougat anyone? ;)


Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.


There is a song in there somewhere but it will need to wait until I am home to post it (if my wee brain can remember).

But Sidiously folks ... what modwiz says is correct.

While I am not privy to all the details of PMs and what was said behind the scene ... it is worth a bit of protest that Sid is gone for a week (again).

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

Anyway ... I expect the the focus will soon return to H&N and Carmody's pivotal thread.

It will not be ... *negated* :doh:

You spelled nuggeted incorrectly.:doh:

[dan33]

Stranger in a strange land is a great book. Read it when I was about 15-16. Also read 'Time enough for Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_for_Love)', which is probably his best work.

Yes! , and do you remember THE ILLUSTRATED MAN ? i saw when i was about 15.... tv black white. I was struck! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSv5ARb6sdQ

[Carmody]

i retreated back here staggering and holding my head at it all. haaaaaaa whaaaaaaaa?


But not before....going out on this this clear cold snowy evening with a huge horned moon laying low in the sky and fed the horfs. And then shoveled some actual, non verbal **** (yes sir, yes sir twenty-THREE bags full) and watched them play in the snow , under the moon. Liiam, my special if pushy pet, the big flea speckled white with the long blonde eyelashes framing his limpid eyes ,looked particularly faery-ish this evening.

Assuming that faeries don't wear boots but have special prosthetic hooves.

Nougat anyone? ;)


Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.


There is a song in there somewhere but it will need to wait until I am home to post it (if my wee brain can remember).

But Sidiously folks ... what modwiz says is correct.

While I am not privy to all the details of PMs and what was said behind the scene ... it is worth a bit of protest that Sid is gone for a week (again).

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

Anyway ... I expect the the focus will soon return to H&N and Carmody's pivotal thread.

It will not be ... *negated* :doh:

I was supposed to be hit by a HUGE thunderous and unstoppable mass by this late afternoon, around 4pm. It was supposed to be the mother of all nasties, and it was.....just before it hit.

But... it never did.

Suddenly, this weather dissipated..and never happened.

Oh well.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Here it is 9eagle9:

DkGZGPmOcFk

Is that the one?

[Carmody]

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

I could tell you something I was told today in strict confidence, about the Bushehr nuclear plant. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant). explosive info, regarding public knowledge.

I'd have to research to see if it is public information or not, but I suspect that it is not.

God, I don't know how I end up with this information, sometimes.

[dan33]

deleted video :)

[Cottage Rose]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?
Glad you are here, Phoenix.

[Carmody]

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

I could tell you something I was told today in strict confidence, about the Bushehr nuclear plant. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant). explosive info, regarding public knowledge.

I'd have to research to see if it is public information or not, but I suspect that it is not.

God, I don't know how I end up with this information, sometimes.

Let me clarify:

The odds of me saying anything are very low, as I've no desire to pitch my twist into the situation and play the game that way.

At the same time I'd harm friends who speak with their hearts about complex matters, to me.

[Calz]

Here and now. I could be sad that most members are at the Nugget Lovers Ball and not spreading some love here or are not brainstorming and learning over at Carmody's thread, but I am not. Like any weather front things change and then change again, and again. The unfolding of the Universe continues as does the enfolding embrace of the Love that is the center of All. The world seems to be falling apart, but not me. I seem to be more alive every day and in a better place to be in deep gratitude for All That Is.

I just thought to share that, even though I did not know what is would be when I started. It just unfolded out to me. Loving thoughts to all.

Carmody is a mistery to me.
I`m reading his LITHIUM tread.
I read his posts ... and i think, WHO is this guy, .... amazing!

Thanks modwiz and carmody

Dan, I see you are from Spain. Carmody is a hard study in English, as a first language. If English is not your primary language than you are to be commended for reading the lithium thread. That thread is like a filter. Not many make it through there. People scream for disclosure and Carmody has been pulling back the veil for many months here now. Like the emperors clothes, they may as well not be there for many. I laugh when I think of people who are sent to watch these threads and forums. Minion types. I know most of them go cross-eyed looking at that material. Steam has come out of my ears on occasion.

Check out his latest thread. It has more real time application as in, it's really time to apply this information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35730-Snakes-in-Suits-Weeding-out-corporate-Psychopaths&p=367906#post367906

Saludos

I love to read the Lithium thread on sunday mornings. Saying to mayself, wow!!! really.

Who is this guy!!!

One of the villagers. Lucky us. We don't even need a translator.

Either that or, Stranger From A Strange Land.


Carmody is a village into himself.

Borrowing from Law of One terminology ... "social memory complex" (in theory as we move "up" the density scale we accumulate more and more souls ... still with individuality yet connected more than we experience it now).

But what do I know ... I am just a nugget :dirol:

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What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

Ya got me. The next answer would have cost you money anyway, so good thing. :noidea:


Sounds like a job for Hoagy Hairdoo ... :bigfish:

[Carmody]

Be careful now, this is the problem that happened around Sid. It got all bent out of shape.

[Calz]

You spelled nuggeted incorrectly.:doh:

Thow are correct yet again :chess:

[Cottage Rose]

Be careful now, this is the problem that happened around Sid. It got all bent out of shape.

What happened to Rob? Not banned again? :fie:

[Calz]

[/COLOR]
Be careful now, this is the problem that happened around Sid. It got all bent out of shape.

What happened to Rob? Banned again? :fie:

Long story ... I could only make it about 3 pages in ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35825-Banning-of-the-word-Nugget-by-Lord-Sid

[Guest]

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

I could tell you something I was told today in strict confidence, about the Bushehr nuclear plant. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant). explosive info, regarding public knowledge.

I'd have to research to see if it is public information or not, but I suspect that it is not.

God, I don't know how I end up with this information, sometimes.


Thank you for the above information

Here and now sitting quietly in the dark of the evening enjoying a warm blazing fire.

Nora

We are all related

[Carmody]

Listening to this right now:

qbaKEt5BtHo

[ViralSpiral]

He has insight into the mechanics of the global political spectrum that is very valuable. War could break out in the middle east at any moment and his voice will be missed.

I could tell you something I was told today in strict confidence, about the Bushehr nuclear plant. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant). explosive info, regarding public knowledge.

I'd have to research to see if it is public information or not, but I suspect that it is not.

God, I don't know how I end up with this information, sometimes.

Let me clarify:

The odds of me saying anything are very low, as I've no desire to pitch my twist into the situation and play the game that way.

At the same time I'd harm friends who speak with their hearts about complex matters, to me.


/me scratches head and wonders, why "put it out there"?

Secrets can be burdens. You sure you don't wanna dump?

[ViralSpiral]

The Dead CAN dance ;)

My favourite of theirs: The Unfolding

(without words - profound impact though)


Bh8QOvZnFtM

[Carmody]

(we should just pull that stuff right out. Edit your posts please. it was foolish of me to mention it.)

Let me clarify.:

Absolutely sure. No hints. It was one of those happenstance things, again.

A while back, last summer, a friend of mine ended up saving what could be calculated as a few million lives in North America. Nobody knows what the subject was or how it came about, except the people involved and I do not have the right to tell that story either. This is what I mean about happenstance. Just a confluence of events....


I'm just illustrating the backdrop conditions in this grand game of illusion and dimensions. This game we play here in 'this reality'.

It really is that deep.

Once you see one single thing, outside of time, you realize, through the process of logical deduction and cascading logic premise and potential facts (ergo..ergo..ergo)..well.. you end up in a space where what you Think is reality, most definitely is not.

You really are a multidimensional aetheric individual..who is poking your head or part of your awareness into this space called 3d reality.

One can read the words but the 'body', the egoic premise, the hypnotic of a duality being, where one layer is not aware, the conscious mind playing solo here (3d), but the connected 'higher' being aware of more..well..when you realize the separation is there..and then you seek to bring connection, THAT is when you really begin to see 'things' much more clearly.

The 'mind' pulls away from this ---in near entirety. You live a dream.

The consensus reality that every other being is dreaming, and you are part of, this is tied to the instinctual bits of the body..and their (everyone else's) overall energies help keep you in 'the dream'.

It really is a fear based control system -that is being enacted.

However, one should not automatically decide, via the dreaming body's fear mechanisms of the unknown, that it is purely evil in intent and act.

It is estimated that there is corruption, but the reasons and connections behind it remain unclear. Therefore, to play with it in fear and ignorance, is foolish.

Now, is the group playing with the fear mechanism correct, or is it a foolish group of unaware beings, throughout it's structure.. is it also, like the many beings in this world, is it multifaceted and multi-pronged, in act and intent? Is it just another layer of awareness and dream?

Are they learning as well? are they learning hard lessons, as well? Analysis seems to be saying exactly that. Explorations in soul conditions and astral projection and interactions with others seems to speak directly to that -- as an aspect.

I know a priest, for example, that does indeed do demonic exorcisms. All the time, according to him. Which even the Buddhists feel is true and act upon.

The Buddhists, will tell you their version of the truth, which is that this is not a permanent space for you. And that they do indeed do demonic exorcisms. They will take a person who is possessed, where they think the original occupant cannot be repatriated..and they will do things like skin the person and boil them alive.

For they are trying to teach the demonic that there is to be no possession... that to come here, to experience hedonistic pathology, ie, psychotic sociopathism, murder, etc..is not to be tolerated. That they will give the demonic such pain that the given demonic will never try to take over an individual ever again.

And that such things are to not be casually shared, as they add to the wrong vibration in this 'space' and thus open the door for more dimensional shifting to/for that vibration which simply brings more (enabling) of what we call evil, to this 'space'.

Which is what I try to state in the opening post of the lithium thread. If they come here an and integrate in a fashion that represents what the illiterate and hypnotically sleeping duality humans fear (due to egoic body state overlay, the duality), the sleeping being will simply bring more opening for the wrong vibration. This is also covered in the 'soul harvester' thread.

Thus, a critical point is that we must not bring fear to the shaky and difficult state of human opening into the greater space/state/being.. which we are apparently about to emerge into being, as an overall group or consensus reality state.

[ViralSpiral]

Thank you Carmody, that makes perfect sense.

And thank you for transporting me somewhere, where I may be of assistance.

There is no such thing as happenstance ;)

[Carmody]

Thank you Carmody, that makes perfect sense.

And thank you for transporting me somewhere, where I may be of assistance.

There is no such thing as happenstance ;)

This is part of what we are trying to avoid ---Continuance.

Break the cycle.

S_6Pp_JKwmk

[araucaria]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

Ya got me. The next answer would have cost you money anyway, so good thing. :noidea:Its my birth date. I knew that 19.5 was special for some reason but 1967 ? How many on this forum have the same birth date ? I would run a poll if i knew how to ! Thanks.

Then you came out around the same time as the report from iron Mountain - neat timing for a lightworker!

[ulli]

PMS, or Perth Monthly Syndrome, as I call it, has again flared up. Pandemic proportions this time.
I posted something earlier about the unbelievably difficult task the moderators have here, not only weighing and balancing which members to sanction and which ones to protect, but also following a strict set of rules, or guide lines, as laid out by Bill Ryan, then having to consult about the flare-ups until a consensus is reached and still make it through a work day afterwards while trying not to fall asleep on the job.
Then be ready to meet the firestorm of irrationality that predictably follows each time they impose a sanction.
The Incredible Hulk may have a heart of gold and carry a vast data bank of legal knowledge but he is also an elephant in a china shop when he gets his his monthly bout of PMS.
This thread would not even exist if it weren't for the impeccable job the moderators here are performing so I admit I could be a bit biased. Not only was this thread assaulted by Perth Monthly Syndrome once but also my private message inbox.

I'm still feeling a bit nauseous after wading through the fallout of it all and am sad to see that the superficial judgements being bandied about the forum mods out there have spilled into here.
Many great movements have existed and they were great because they had a diversity of people that contributed to the gene pool of ideas but then they disintegrated because the administrators did not protect the more refined and sensitive end of the spectrum and let it's scholars go rather than the bullies. The Bahais come to mind. Some Gurdjieff groups....astrological associations....I have just seen it too often and because of it am constantly on the verge of giving up on humanity
I just wish wish wish everyone would excercise more restraint since our beloved Hulk is unwilling or incapable of doing so and therfore needs the moderators assistance.

[Calz]

/me scratches head and wonders, why "put it out there"?

Secrets can be burdens. You sure you don't wanna dump?

Me scratches my own head and wonders ... you are asking for a nuclear dump??? :haha:

:noidea::peep::noidea:


:wave:

[Calz]

I'm just illustrating the backdrop conditions in this grand game of illusion and dimensions. This game we play here in 'this reality'.

It really is that deep.

Almost sounds like the Men in Black movie where the "world is saved" on a regular basis unbeknownst to the population.


11667

[ViralSpiral]

I do hear you Ulli, only.....

Why silence a heart-song?
Is it life-threatening?
Restraint is difficult when given a platform and people are in the "here and now", wishing to express.
Calling it a firestorm of irrationality does not engender love and support either (10 lashes from the All*h with a wet shoelace over your bare back, missy! :P)
That you chose to wade through the quagmire is your choice too, no?

I admire the mods and wouldn't want to join their sandpit anytime soon.
Not even for money (or nuggets)!
They are not androids.
That is the failing......



We have much to learn

((hugs)) n tings

[ulli]

I'm just illustrating the backdrop conditions in this grand game of illusion and dimensions. This game we play here in 'this reality'.

It really is that deep.

Almost sounds like the Men in Black movie where the "world is saved" on a regular basis unbeknownst to the population.


11667

Just like at the end of that movie you discover that truth was found in the tabloids you now discover that the movie itself was true.
So who saves the world, the men in black or the angelic light workers in their white robes?

[ulli]

I do hear you Ulli, only.....

Why silence a heart-song?
Is it life-threatening?
Restraint is difficult when given a platform and people are in the "here and now", wishing to express.
Calling it a firestorm of irrationality does not engender love and support either (10 lashes from the All*h with a wet shoelace over your bare back, missy! :P)
That you chose to wade through the quagmire is your choice too, no?

I admire the mods and wouldn't want to join their sandpit anytime soon.
Not even for money (or nuggets)!
They are not androids.
That is the failing......



We have much to learn

((hugs)) n tings

Yes it is life threatening. To me it is, maybe you don't see it.
I'm all for people having their say....

Anyway the answer is in the last line of your post.
They are no androids, and that may indeed be their failing. Or not.

[ViralSpiral]

To me it is, maybe you don't see it.


I cant. Help me please.

[Calz]

I admire the mods and wouldn't want to join their sandpit anytime soon.
Not even for money (or nuggets)!
They are not androids.
That is the failing......



I have great admiration and appreciation for the mods as well as Sid.

I guess the "proof is in the pudding" would apply. What an amazing forum this is. Simply the best.

Inevitable to have the occasional "human" moments even if androids were involved.



11668

[ulli]

To me it is, maybe you don't see it.


I cant. Help me please.

Define life.
Life of a forum hangs by a thread. The life of a thread hangs by a thread. Moderators are there to protect it. Moderators stress themselves to do their best so sometimes even their physical health could hang by a thread.

Many good things come to an end because someone is against the idea of self restraint and moderation.
One of the best astrology yahoo groups has died...when I go there I only find pornography spam now.

It died because the mods got sick of being attacked all the time by irrational defenders.

Look at Lily's thread, they are still going on and on about something that never happened. They still think it was the word nugget that was censored when in fact the censorship was something slightly different.
It was not to call a person who doesnt know what the word means a 'nugget' to their face.
As soon as he was told not to do it he twisted the mods decision into something entirely different and started a poll, as if they had forbidden him to use the word generally, which just was not the case.
Carmody said earlier it was bent out of shape. I agree with him.
Slight of hand, subtle deception. What is the motive, I ask myself.
In the process of doing so he was making the mods look ridiculous, which has become a regular past time with him. Why does he do it? To bathe in the spotlight of his supporters? And you call that a 'heart song'???
I just want to state yet again, my life here, my relationship to the members, depends on the Internet primarily, and on the forum moderators in particular.
It's a virtual Village after all.

[ViralSpiral]

Thank you. I heard you. Literally and virtually.

http://alisonmoyet.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_hug.gif

[ulli]

What does 19.5 mean to you ?

It is the point of altitude on a planet where the bases of the planetary merkaba contact the surface.Thanks ! So what does 19.05.67 mean ?

Ya got me. The next answer would have cost you money anyway, so good thing. :noidea:Its my birth date. I knew that 19.5 was special for some reason but 1967 ? How many on this forum have the same birth date ? I would run a poll if i knew how to ! Thanks.

Then you came out around the same time as the report from iron Mountain - neat timing for a lightworker!

It was also when the Six Day war of Israel and Egypt was in the final planning stage.
It is still going on, however.

[modwiz]

Here and now I ready myself for bed. It has been a dizzying set of energies to deal with at Avalon, for me, today. I see that I am not alone but may be in better shape than some of us. I will count my blessings as I send many out to those here and now, in this thread, in this very special gathering of spirits of our self created village. Also, blessings to those whose unseen efforts we may owe some gratitude to without knowing it.

Ulli, you hold a special place in my thoughts, because it is natural and the essence of what I do in my life's work insists that, at this time, you are a focus. Wobbling helps to demonstrate our innate propensity to self correct. Ruffled feathers allow others to affectionately smooth them, reinforcing the caring and commitment we have silently made to one another.

Good night. My dreams will be good if they are as sweet as being with you all.

[ulli]

One of the worst fixations people can have is self image. The Nagual warrior wants to root out Self importance...which is also known as ego.
But self image is different as it houses a belief structure that has already gotten rid of ego.
With self image the person feels they have duty to live up to an ideal. But if that ideal is a misconstruct and not in line with cosmic truth then great harm can come from it.
If the self image is 'I'm a defender of the people against oppressors' and all of one's actions will depend on it, while ignoring the higher truth that each and every person has an inner oppressor.
If one comes to a forum knowing that the moderators have a red button which they will use if one doesn't respect the general rules then what is there to debate?
It's how the game was set up to begin with.
Why try and rattle that cage? Those who do give away their energy, and then drag a whole bunch of others who carry the same self image paradigm around with them down into the quagmire with them.

Unless, however, there are deeper layers to the game, which LS himself, as well as Bill Ryan have hinted at, repeatedly.
I forgot to mention, my self image has to do with Sherlock Holmes.

[ulli]

Here and now I ready myself for bed. It has been a dizzying set of energies to deal with at Avalon, for me, today. I see that I am not alone but may be in better shape than some of us. I will count my blessings as I send many out to those here and now, in this thread, in this very special gathering of spirits of our self created village. Also, blessings to those whose unseen efforts we may owe some gratitude to without knowing it.

Ulli, you hold a special place in my thoughts, because it is natural and the essence of what I do in my life's work insists that, at this time, you are a focus. Wobbling helps to demonstrate our innate propensity to self correct. Ruffled feathers allow others to affectionately smooth them, reinforcing the caring and commitment we have silently made to one another.

Good night. My dreams will be good if they are as sweet as being with you all.

I nearly wobbled my way into doing a major anti-testosterone rant.
Ready to use my considerable clout to make special vaccines just for boys and men, 3.5 billion of them...all filled with testosterone neutralizers.

[Lisab]

Fantastic posts there Ulli thankyou. Im post reticant again, Im afraid I just get like that from time to time.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Define life.
Life of a forum hangs by a thread. The life of a thread hangs by a thread. Moderators are there to protect it. Moderators stress themselves to do their best so sometimes even their physical health could hang by a thread.

Many good things come to an end because someone is against the idea of self restraint and moderation.
One of the best astrology yahoo groups has died...when I go there I only find pornography spam now.

It died because the mods got sick of being attacked all the time by irrational defenders.

Look at Lily's thread, they are still going on and on about something that never happened. They still think it was the word nugget that was censored when in fact the censorship was something slightly different.
It was not to call a person who doesnt know what the word means a 'nugget' to their face.
As soon as he was told not to do it he twisted the mods decision into something entirely different and started a poll, as if they had forbidden him to use the word generally, which just was not the case.
Carmody said earlier it was bent out of shape. I agree with him.
Slight of hand, subtle deception. What is the motive, I ask myself.
In the process of doing so he was making the mods look ridiculous, which has become a regular past time with him. Why does he do it? To bathe in the spotlight of his supporters? And you call that a 'heart song'???
I just want to state yet again, my life here, my relationship to the members, depends on the Internet primarily, and on the forum moderators in particular.
It's a virtual Village after all.

I don't want to drag your thread off course so I'll be brief.

You've raised a good few points and given me quite a bit to consider. I said once before how it serves some people's purposes to blur the distinctions of what happens, why, and to whom but when I might have been better to remember that, my judgement failed me and so I failed others. I'd like to think such a conflation was not purposeful.

[ulli]

Define life.
Life of a forum hangs by a thread. The life of a thread hangs by a thread. Moderators are there to protect it. Moderators stress themselves to do their best so sometimes even their physical health could hang by a thread.

Many good things come to an end because someone is against the idea of self restraint and moderation.
One of the best astrology yahoo groups has died...when I go there I only find pornography spam now.

It died because the mods got sick of being attacked all the time by irrational defenders.

Look at Lily's thread, they are still going on and on about something that never happened. They still think it was the word nugget that was censored when in fact the censorship was something slightly different.
It was not to call a person who doesnt know what the word means a 'nugget' to their face.
As soon as he was told not to do it he twisted the mods decision into something entirely different and started a poll, as if they had forbidden him to use the word generally, which just was not the case.
Carmody said earlier it was bent out of shape. I agree with him.
Slight of hand, subtle deception. What is the motive, I ask myself.
In the process of doing so he was making the mods look ridiculous, which has become a regular past time with him. Why does he do it? To bathe in the spotlight of his supporters? And you call that a 'heart song'???
I just want to state yet again, my life here, my relationship to the members, depends on the Internet primarily, and on the forum moderators in particular.
It's a virtual Village after all.

I don't want to drag your thread off course so I'll be brief.

You've raised a good few points and given me quite a bit to consider. I said once before how it serves some people's purposes to blur the distinctions of what happens, why, and to whom but when I might have been better to remember that, my judgement failed me and so I failed others. I hope such a conflation was not purposeful.

There is a saying:
The devil is in the details. Most people don't go there, out of fear of meeting him.
And when they do meet him they discover he was all along inside themselves, hidden.
Pass the tweezers....