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Billy
3rd April 2015, 14:59
Any insights into how tomorrows total lunar eclipse maybe effecting us Ulli ? I am finding that many of my friends and family are a bit wacky just now.
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/blood-moon.html
Next Total Lunar Eclipse: Sat, Apr 4, 2015
Blood Moon is sometimes used to describe a Total Lunar Eclipse. When the Earth casts its shadow on a Full Moon and eclipses it, the Moon may get a red glow.
Illustration image
A Total Lunar Eclipse can be a Blood Moon.©iStockphoto.com/wrangel
Lunar Tetrad
Total lunar eclipses are rare – only about one in three lunar eclipses are total. About four to five total eclipses can be seen at any place on Earth in a decade.
Lunar eclipses usually do not occur in any specific order. However, every once in a while, four total lunar eclipses happen in a row. This is called a lunar tetrad. The total lunar eclipses happen 6 months apart. There are at least six full Moons between two total lunar eclipses in a tetrad.
ulli
3rd April 2015, 15:06
Paula, you said what I was thinking, but was hoping that Flash would discover herself, if she did a careful review of her posts.
And araucaria, the most diplomatic of us all, brilliantly pointed out that Freudian slip, which also revealed something of the soul's intention.
"The financial brake".
If we really want to enter the dimension where miraculous events are more frequent we need to stop all materialistic concerns, drop all worries, abolish our negative emotion, all fear, and simply KNOW that nothing will ever harm us.
That will bring us to vibrate at the frequency where we then can attract our heart's desire.
All the other kind of thinking is just cultural. For the last few days I was reminded several times of Terrance McKenna's words:
Culture is not your friend.
The only culture worth aiming for is the one where growth in consciousness is encouraged.
I continue to pray that the right job will come up for you, Flash. And if you think that they can't afford you, please think again...maybe they have a principle at work which places harmony in the work environment higher than profits, and the salary they pay you is only a small percentage of all the other hidden perks which might come your way.
ulli
3rd April 2015, 15:17
Any insights into how tomorrows total lunar eclipse maybe effecting us Ulli ? I am finding that many of my friends and family are a bit wacky just now.
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/blood-moon.html
Next Total Lunar Eclipse: Sat, Apr 4, 2015
Blood Moon is sometimes used to describe a Total Lunar Eclipse. When the Earth casts its shadow on a Full Moon and eclipses it, the Moon may get a red glow.
Illustration image
A Total Lunar Eclipse can be a Blood Moon.©iStockphoto.com/wrangel
Lunar Tetrad
Total lunar eclipses are rare – only about one in three lunar eclipses are total. About four to five total eclipses can be seen at any place on Earth in a decade.
Lunar eclipses usually do not occur in any specific order. However, every once in a while, four total lunar eclipses happen in a row. This is called a lunar tetrad. The total lunar eclipses happen 6 months apart. There are at least six full Moons between two total lunar eclipses in a tetrad.
If someone is on the path of self creation they can really benefit form these energies, as they will turn all challenges into exercise for building soul muscle.
If impulses arise that prompt us to wackiness we should still consider that we have the option of not acting out in this way.
Instead we can just state that we need to lie low, and reflect, and thus keep a check on all frenzied behavior.
If only a small percentage of people are willing to do this then these energies won't be fed, and war mongers' plans will be disrupted.
Because whatever their plans are, they cannot act on them unless they have plenty of dark energies emanating from the collective.
My advice is "tranquilo!"
Anything to do with the moon (Luna) can produce lunacy, and the antidote is in the striving for sanity.
genevieve
3rd April 2015, 16:54
Flash--
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get the job and was wondering if you and your great skills/knowledge/etc. may have intimidated the boss. Perhaps he was concerned that any bits of his ineptitude would be highlighted by your brilliance.
Best wishes always.
Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve
Natalia
3rd April 2015, 17:19
Today I hoovered my room thoroughly...and, I accidentally sucked up a mysterious soft white, item on my bed, and then a sock followed a few minutes later, and then another sock...that mysterious item was probably my soft material eye mask...oh well, have to buy another one, lol *it's been months since I could do a full hoover*
I found this video lovely :)
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Selkie
3rd April 2015, 17:36
My yard will be awash in violets a few weeks. A picture from a previous year:
http://i62.tinypic.com/oi983.jpg
Violet
3rd April 2015, 19:44
Here & Now, listening to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlCppz0UVR8
Wondering why, back then, particular rubble in the universe chose spherical form to become a planet.
What if our mind was really ours. Output, both the good and bad, generated from within (the core of us).
I forgot to say I finished that Jodorowsky comic book and remembering how this format did great injustice to the message.
Easter holidays over here. Schools close two weeks.
Marianne
4th April 2015, 13:13
I have a violet picture too -- purple beauties popped up last week, all over the yard and along the roadside.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=29399&d=1428153073
Selkie
4th April 2015, 13:21
I have a violet picture too -- purple beauties popped up last week, all over the yard and along the roadside.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=29399&d=1428153073
They are wonderful, aren't they?
p.s. Our growing season is so short here; the last frost date is May 15!
p.s. I live in a rural area, and soon I will be able to roam the back roads with my camera. I can't wait :)
Marianne
4th April 2015, 13:30
Hi Silkie -- I see you love nature. : )
I'm in the southeast, so spring comes early and winters are usually mild-ish. Some folks look for robins as harbingers of spring, but we have robins, cardinals and other birds year round, so for me, it's violets. When they bloom, it's spring!
Look forward to your country photos.
Selkie
4th April 2015, 15:45
This is a painting I did while I was in Andalusia. I took the painting from a picture of a poppy that I had taken (the hills are full of poppies in spring time there).
http://i57.tinypic.com/t5g4up.jpg
K.LS stands for Kundrie La Sorziere, the Loathly Damsel, from the tale of Parsival by Wolfram Von Eschenbach :becky:
http://www.germanen-plakat.de/wp-content/uploads/kundrie-la-surziere-aus-parzival-klein.jpg
Natalia
4th April 2015, 17:56
i made this tofu dish tonight, would you like some? :)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a138/fresia333/image.jpg1.jpg
Jean-Marie
4th April 2015, 19:43
I am putting out a plea to all the wonderful souls in the village. My son Kyle (28) has a very troubled soul. He has had a difficult adulthood, addictions and suicide attempts. Someone recognized and suggested that he has a demonic possession. They are going to attempt to help him this Wednesday April 8th at 11:00 am Central Standard Time. The Avalon healers will be raising the loving vibrations and energy! I am asking for anyone here in the village who has time to help, Please help set intent and join in! Any effort you can make will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
-jean-marie
RunningDeer
4th April 2015, 22:32
May the waters
of Life, Light and Love
wash over, through
and surround
Kyle
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Kyle_zpszo8pavkr.gif
<3
PS I've marked my calendar, Jean-Marie. I also send healing waters to You and your Family.
Love,
Paula
Daisy27
4th April 2015, 23:33
Love this Ulli. We leave for your beautiful country on Wednesday. I am looking forward to every sight, sound and the taste of all that glorious fruit.
ulli
5th April 2015, 04:36
Love this Ulli. We leave for your beautiful country on Wednesday. I am looking forward to every sight, sound and the taste of all that glorious fruit.
May you have an enjoyable vacation. I live in the Orosi Valley, east of San Jose. Looking forward to your reports.
Please be very conscious of security at all times and never leave your car unlocked, and also keep your bags well hidden if you need to leave them in the car. Park only in safe areas. Tourists are extra vulnerable as they are not used to the type of petty crime that can happen in Central American countries.
dan33
5th April 2015, 16:38
Beyond the infinite, eh? I see what you mean. It would never do to be too infinitely under-ambitious, that's for sure.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLjO0q1AYNhawgQBwWrdrLdqn1EBQgj-i3WRlIOXTgJluGinjl
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkAwb1p2zVM973yRLOKpDcrg81ggek7jISjPBaRzWGa7PZ6rwS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAqJTV9WoAETcZE.jpg
http://img2.meristation.com/files/imagenes/reportajes/pc/2014/apm_467/imax-poster-for-interstellar.jpg?1415289826
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3GEVcfCcAAe95D.jpg:large
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/542c2d526da81153288b456a-800-1035/interstellar_1.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/2wdah69.jpg
Meeradas will have an explosion of images on T Shirts. :)
Flash
5th April 2015, 19:11
Some of you gave me great and interesting insights. I thank you many times. I will answer you when i won't post from my cell phone. In the meantimes many thanks.
Just had lunch with Nat'lee, her mom and Mini Flash. Nat'lee pursued your work through her own wisdom and Mini Flash through her love.
And talking of freedom, and to not worry, i will be in Florida, orlando next week to meet my very dear American girl friend for a vacation, most of my expenses except for food paid, including half the flight ticket.
I just need to stop material lacking fears.
The day after my job applications news, i had decided that i do not want to experience fear anylonger. Then i read your posts. Many amongst you hit the right nails. Will answer sometimes this week
Selkie
5th April 2015, 21:03
Some of you gave me great and interesting insights. I thank you many times. I will answer you when i won't post from my cell phone. In the meantimes many thanks.
Just had lunch with Nat'lee, her mom and Mini Flash. Nat'lee pursued your work through her own wisdom and Mini Flash through her love.
And talking of freedom, and to not worry, i will be in Florida, orlando next week to meet my very dear American girl friend for a vacation, most of my expenses except for food paid, including half the flight ticket.
I just need to stop material lacking fears.
The day after my job applications news, i had decided that i do not want to experience fear anylonger. Then i read your posts. Many amongst you hit the right nails. Will answer sometimes this week
Hoping you have a wonderful vacation!
ulli
6th April 2015, 18:08
Been picking rocks out of the garden soil all morning and taking a break now.
Also did some weeding and planting.
Finally got into the routine of using repellant, a hat, and gloves.
Hard physical work is quite gratifying and since I started this garden project
I'm now stronger than I used to be, and especially my lower back muscles are behaving themselves.
Selkie
6th April 2015, 18:17
http://i61.tinypic.com/2zeilx3.jpg
I thought I'd share this with you all, just because I like it and am proud of it :) I painted it about 3 years ago from a picture of a lioness that I found of the internet.
Violet
6th April 2015, 19:30
Very upset. Son let down all our tyres (bikes) with a pin, so that he wouldn't have to go to the logo tomorrow. My brand new bike, and the spare one too, and his own tyres, both. I don't understand, it came out of the blue, there was no tantrum, no angry face. Everything was fine, we were all laughing and having a good time. We had just had a picknick, we had been out and it was such a wonderful day, really...Then I noticed a flat tyre, and another one, and another one...
araucaria
7th April 2015, 07:15
At last, a bit of common sense, and large numbers have one less thing to worry about:
You may be surprised to find that you can have a paper in one of the world's leading medical journals entitled "Excess deaths associated with underweight, overweight and obesity", which found that overweight people lived the longest. After studying medical research for as long as I have, I am far from surprised. I regularly find that the title of a paper, the abstract, and even the conclusions often bear very little relationship to what the study actually found.
Perhaps you think I am being selective and only choosing one misleading paper. Well, here are the conclusions of another study done in Canada in 2010: "Our results are similar to those from other recent studies, confirming that underweight and obesity class II+ (BMI > 35) are clear risk factors for mortality, and showing that when compared to the acceptable BMI category, overweight appears to be protective against mortality." I love the way they couldn't bring themselves to say "normal" BMI. They had to call it "the acceptable BMI category". This, I suppose, helps to fend off the inevitable question. If people of normal weight have shorter lifespans than those who are overweight, why do we call them normal? Surely we should call them "mildly underweight", at which point we would have to call people who are now considered overweight "normal".
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/why-being-overweight-means-you-live-longer-the-way-scientists-twist-the-facts-10158229.html
RunningDeer
7th April 2015, 14:58
I am putting out a plea to all the wonderful souls in the village. My son Kyle (28) has a very troubled soul. He has had a difficult adulthood, addictions and suicide attempts. Someone recognized and suggested that he has a demonic possession. They are going to attempt to help him this Wednesday April 8th at 11:00 am Central Standard Time. The Avalon healers will be raising the loving vibrations and energy! I am asking for anyone here in the village who has time to help, Please help set intent and join in! Any effort you can make will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
-jean-marie
Reminder to keep Kyle in your thoughts as he prepares to transition into a new place in his life. 23 hours and counting…
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Kyle-calendar_zps7xg8qr5o.jpg
Fishing season. As Joseph P. Farrel says, “See you on the flip side.”http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/gone-fishing_zpswmympnv9.JPG
dan33
7th April 2015, 16:45
Been picking rocks out of the garden soil all morning and taking a break now.
Also did some weeding and planting.
Finally got into the routine of using repellant, a hat, and gloves.
Hard physical work is quite gratifying and since I started this garden project
I'm now stronger than I used to be, and especially my lower back muscles are behaving themselves.
http://www.organizepetsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/75521_112521988931511_1544306856_n.jpg
dan33
7th April 2015, 17:51
My Best wishes Jean-Marie for your son KYLE. :grouphug:
http://n.b5z.net/i/u/10147218/i/272.jpg
Mini Flash
7th April 2015, 17:54
Fun happy news
The college that i wanted to go tp accepted me in thier social service program. This means alot to me.. Especially knowing that i wasn't suppose to have finished elementary school because of my learning disability.. I am so proud and happy to have the future i wanted :D
Natalia
7th April 2015, 18:00
Fun happy news
The college that i wanted to go in accepted me in thier social service program. This means alot to me.. Especially knowing that i wasn't suppose to have finished elementary school with my learning disability.. I am so proud and happy to have the future i wanted :D
Well done :) that's so nice to hear!
dan33
7th April 2015, 18:12
Fun happy news
The college that i wanted to go in accepted me in thier social service program. This means alot to me.. Especially knowing that i wasn't suppose to have finished elementary school with my learning disability.. I am so proud and happy to have the future i wanted :D
Congratulations!
All the Best for you. :wizard:
http://images1.cliqueclack.com/tv/files/2010/12/tbbts4e11.jpg
ulli
7th April 2015, 23:09
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/18623_836800089728556_6050318712627822734_n.jpg?oh=ba30ae2e01fb73f1ff891bb19368f305&oe=55A6C7DA
My current worries are split between what we see here and the drought in California, where big industry can waste water without legal restriction while ordinary people will no longer be allowed to flush their toilets.
Playdo of Ataraxas
8th April 2015, 00:20
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/18623_836800089728556_6050318712627822734_n.jpg?oh=ba30ae2e01fb73f1ff891bb19368f305&oe=55A6C7DA
My current worries are split between what we see here and the drought in California, where big industry can waste water without legal restriction while ordinary people will no longer be allowed to flush their toilets.
Makes me think of Roger Waters' "Amused to Death":
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Flash
8th April 2015, 01:36
Fun happy news
The college that i wanted to go tp accepted me in thier social service program. This means alot to me.. Especially knowing that i wasn't suppose to have finished elementary school because of my learning disability.. I am so proud and happy to have the future i wanted :D
And isn't the mom extremely proud of her very brigth and hard working daughter!!!
Love you sooooooo much.
Mom
ulli
8th April 2015, 01:44
Love and congratulations to Mini Flash. She is on her way to becoming a Maxi Flash of lightning.
Also love that big cat picture at the top of the page by Silkie.
And wow, that Roger Waters song.
Meanwhile I spotted this. Moon Gate in Bermuda. (Would love to build it as my garden gate)
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/p960x960/1496271_1085104208170006_3470264219478524273_o.jpg
Carmody
8th April 2015, 02:37
Grabbed a disc in order to test a player I was fooling around with. Realized I had not listened to it in years (overplayed, had to let it fade a bit).
So I sat and listened to the whole thing. I had forgotten how good it was. For some of you that are newer to this thread, this should be a real treat.
CnmBKTNOgAk
Snowflower
8th April 2015, 05:30
Silkie! Beautiful!
Natalia
8th April 2015, 06:10
I love being a woman! :) <3
but also...
"I'll be more than a lover
More than a woman
More than Your Lover
I'll Be
I'll be more than another" ~ Aaliyah
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Stephanie
8th April 2015, 07:34
I am putting out a plea to all the wonderful souls in the village. My son Kyle (28) has a very troubled soul. He has had a difficult adulthood, addictions and suicide attempts. Someone recognized and suggested that he has a demonic possession. They are going to attempt to help him this Wednesday April 8th at 11:00 am Central Standard Time. The Avalon healers will be raising the loving vibrations and energy! I am asking for anyone here in the village who has time to help, Please help set intent and join in! Any effort you can make will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
-jean-marie
Reminder to keep Kyle in your thoughts as he prepares to transition into a new place in his life. 23 hours and counting…
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Kyle-calendar_zps7xg8qr5o.jpg
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Star bursts of loving light and blessings, for our dearest Kyle.
Stephanie
8th April 2015, 07:56
Fun happy news
The college that i wanted to go tp accepted me in thier social service program. This means alot to me.. Especially knowing that i wasn't suppose to have finished elementary school because of my learning disability.. I am so proud and happy to have the future i wanted :D
Thank you for allowing us to share such wonderful news,
you deserve all life's joy, blessings and much, much more.
Violet
8th April 2015, 08:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOFeZ4zPq9s More on the Buena Vista Social Club offspring twin (="Ibeyi" in Yoruba language) here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibeyi).
Everything inspires all, I guess.
David Trd1
8th April 2015, 09:59
Beautiful little piece...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTniLi6eNdA
Selkie
8th April 2015, 11:13
The colt's foot flowers are up. They are the very first wild flowers to come up in spring, and they come up before their leaves. And the peepers are singing at night now. The night before last I heard one, lone peeper, and then last night, they were all singing :)
araucaria
8th April 2015, 15:58
They know where to look for alien life, now they’re telling us. No they don’t: there are thousands of people on this planet who claim to have a little knowledge and experience, but they never get asked; they’re just cranks or worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/we-will-have-definitive-evidence-of-alien-life-in-20-years-nasa-chief-scientist-believes-10161694.html
Violet
8th April 2015, 17:44
Masons in Belgium. Here and there a joke, and of course everyone knows de Loge and not all members keep it a secret that they are members. However, today I found it strange to hear it discussed so openly and freely, and on national radio.
There's a prehistory to the story. In short: last week an ex-mayor committed suicide after news came that he was to go on trial for accusations of rape (English article (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32159599)) and confusion about the letter from court not being received by him (but he wasn't doing too well for the last - I don't know - five or more years - and also staying out of the spotlights). The woman accusing him, does so three years after the facts. Some people wonder why it takes three years to report a rape, including a psychology professor, at the University of Brussels, friend of the deceased politician (Dutch article (http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/binnenland/1.2292671)).
This in turn led to a girl posting (on Youtube) her reason why she also waited three years to report rape, in addition demanding the professor's withdrawal from the university. The rector of the university then reacted to the press that he has reproached the professor for his inappropriate statements.
And now the masonry part, today that (national) radio show discussing whether or not masons are abusing their positions to protect each other? How does it tie into the story up here? Well, apparently, the psychology professor is a mason and apparently some people think it helped him get away very easily with this and other blunt statements about women in the past. Especially in his position in a study field which has as students mostly women...
I don't remember the guest speaker's name in the show. According to his view it is a fact that masons mostly hold the highest positions (many of which public) in our society and not by coincidence. There is an intentional drive to join de loge just to be able to climb up faster, he said. At this point, I'm checking the radio frequency to see if this is still national radio on. Yup.
He continues, from these positions it becomes a dubious matter when brothers hold to their oath of protecting each other no matter what, which - depending on who's abusing which position for which problem - may also include escaping the law. So, it's not just a hobby club. And adding that since many masons are also public figures and we are a democracy, in which transparency should prevail, it now becomes our business too and these people owe the citizens transparency of their workings and of their assets.
This seemed to me like quite an unusual discussion, mostly the naturalness with which the "facts" were brought in, I'm used to hearing people mock the alternative community for doing exactly the same thing.
meeradas
8th April 2015, 18:00
http://www.spuelgel.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/i-69327dcda447eebf32328f1e3e34c716-merkel-be-careful-with-superglue.jpg
Ain't funny? Nope. Didn't come up with the gesture herself [look for a ted talk on body language (https://youtu.be/ZZZ7k8cMA-4?t=10m50s)].
Playdo of Ataraxas
9th April 2015, 00:45
http://i61.tinypic.com/2zeilx3.jpg
I thought I'd share this with you all, just because I like it and am proud of it :) I painted it about 3 years ago from a picture of a lioness that I found of the internet.
That's beautiful! It made me think of this bobcat I read about yesterday in Florida that caught a shark. It's so big I thought it was a panther with a bobtail:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/local/florida/2015/04/07/bob-cat-fish/25420533/
Flash
9th April 2015, 01:49
Masons in Belgium. Here and there a joke, and of course everyone knows de Loge and not all members keep it a secret that they are members. However, today I found it strange to hear it discussed so openly and freely, and on national radio.
There's a prehistory to the story. In short: last week an ex-mayor committed suicide after news came that he was to go on trial for accusations of rape (English article (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32159599)) and confusion about the letter from court not being received by him (but he wasn't doing too well for the last - I don't know - five or more years - and also staying out of the spotlights). The woman accusing him, does so three years after the facts. Some people wonder why it takes three years to report a rape, including a psychology professor, at the University of Brussels, friend of the deceased politician (Dutch article (http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/binnenland/1.2292671)).
This in turn led to a girl posting (on Youtube) her reason why she also waited three years to report rape, in addition demanding the professor's withdrawal from the university. The rector of the university then reacted to the press that he has reproached the professor for his inappropriate statements.
And now the masonry part, today that (national) radio show discussing whether or not masons are abusing their positions to protect each other? How does it tie into the story up here? Well, apparently, the psychology professor is a mason and apparently some people think it helped him get away very easily with this and other blunt statements about women in the past. Especially in his position in a study field which has as students mostly women...
I don't remember the guest speaker's name in the show. According to his view it is a fact that masons mostly hold the highest positions (many of which public) in our society and not by coincidence. There is an intentional drive to join de loge just to be able to climb up faster, he said. At this point, I'm checking the radio frequency to see if this is still national radio on. Yup.
He continues, from these positions it becomes a dubious matter when brothers hold to their oath of protecting each other no matter what, which - depending on who's abusing which position for which problem - may also include escaping the law. So, it's not just a hobby club. And adding that since many masons are also public figures and we are a democracy, in which transparency should prevail, it now becomes our business too and these people owe the citizens transparency of their workings and of their assets.
This seemed to me like quite an unusual discussion, mostly the naturalness with which the "facts" were brought in, I'm used to hearing people mock the alternative community for doing exactly the same thing.
Add to this that Masons are only male secret society, therefore depriving women of any possibilities of accessing higher positions in society as well.
Flash
9th April 2015, 01:54
Here and now
Writing from Orlando, Florida. My NH friend was going to Florida for a week in a time share, invited me, just had to pay half my flight ticket and my food. I thought after losing my job, not getting the new job after extensive interviews, I needed it so booked the ticket on Thursday for the following Tuesday morning.
I did not know that, in the meantime, I would brake up with my boyfriend after an awful week end.
And adding to the last week small surgery on my finger story wich was resistant to to analgesics and the tremendous pain that followed.
That was a tough week. I had not foreseen it at all.
I truly appreciate this week off with a good friend and one of her friend I was not acquainted with. We look like 3 older ladies having fun.
Mikelodium
9th April 2015, 07:31
Here and now
Writing from Orlando, Florida. My NH friend was going to Florida for a week in a time share, invited me, just had to pay half my flight ticket and my food. I thought after losing my job, not getting the new job after extensive interviews, I needed it so booked the ticket on Thursday for the following Tuesday morning.
I did not know that, in the meantime, I would brake up with my boyfriend after an awful week end.
And adding to the last week small surgery on my finger story wich was resistant to to analgesics and the tremendous pain that followed.
That was a tough week. I had not foreseen it at all.
I truly appreciate this week off with a good friend and one of her friend I was not acquainted with. We look like 3 older ladies having fun.
I'm sorry to read that, Flash. It seems that bad things don't come alone. But things that hurt us make us stronger.
Best wishes from Spain.
Selkie
9th April 2015, 12:14
http://i61.tinypic.com/2zeilx3.jpg
I thought I'd share this with you all, just because I like it and am proud of it :) I painted it about 3 years ago from a picture of a lioness that I found of the internet.
That's beautiful! It made me think of this bobcat I read about yesterday in Florida that caught a shark. It's so big I thought it was a panther with a bobtail:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/local/florida/2015/04/07/bob-cat-fish/25420533/
Thank you so much, Playdo :)
Btw, I saw the pic of the bobcat with the shark, and I thought the cat was a mountain lion at first, too. That cat does really look very big!
Violet
9th April 2015, 17:43
Add to this that Masons are only male secret society, therefore depriving women of any possibilities of accessing higher positions in society as well.
Yes, so it seems. The official site's admission rules, short version:
Tot wie richt zich de Reguliere Vrijmetselarij in België ?
De Reguliere Grootloge van België richt zich tot alle mannen die direct of indirect elke dag opnieuw betrokken zijn bij de uitdagingen, projecten en vragen (sic) maatschappij van de 21ste eeuw en zij geloven dat er eerder iets dan niets is.
(from this source/link (www.glrb.net/nl/)to the official Lodge's site)
English translation:
Whom does Regular Freemasonry address in Belgium?
The Regular Grand Lodge of Belgium addresses all men who are directly or indirectly involved in challenges, projects and (?) issues of the 21th century society and they believe there is rather something than nothing.
Be there good times ahead for you, Flash...:wizard:
meeradas
9th April 2015, 22:28
Totally unrelated, but i just found both very good and interesting:
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This is in English, despite the title:
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ulli
10th April 2015, 01:06
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11146593_1087943921219368_7604983893079395558_n.jpg?oh=274931341a91cb582a424bd83a1d1db2&oe=55A2569D&__gda__=1441069664_7b8686c5229f4fb9461818f5b41f1d92
Tulip carpet in Holland
protoflex
10th April 2015, 06:33
I woke this morning in the middle of a strange dream that I remembered. I was in a high rise hotel and there were dragons flying around outside. I was trying to pull the shades down and lock the doors because they were going to get in if they saw us. There were other people there with me, but no one I recognized. I was running and locking doors behind me. Two of them got in. They were small (no bigger than a horse) but I ran through a door and locked them out. At one point I tried to escape via the hallway and when I opened the door I was face to face with a white pale looking dragon. No flames, no fire. I was terrified and slammed and bolted the door.
Anyone good at dream interpretations????
Thank you!
-jean-marie
Very weird dream........
Same problem i have. You're running from chaos and in doing so you end up running from those you love in the process. You have to learn how to face the dragon, face all fears, to protect what you love, and to show your enemies that they will not trample you.
araucaria
10th April 2015, 10:57
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11146593_1087943921219368_7604983893079395558_n.jpg?oh=274931341a91cb582a424bd83a1d1db2&oe=55A2569D&__gda__=1441069664_7b8686c5229f4fb9461818f5b41f1d92
Tulip carpet in Holland
Can't see the pic, but this'll be my fault: we were making plans yesterday to go and have a look.
Natalia
10th April 2015, 12:00
Going to take a month break from PA and Facebook from tomorrow.
will spend more alone time in nature, and in the stillness of the present moment :)
See you later, and take care <3
http://rs10.pbsrc.com/albums/a138/fresia333/Mobile%20Uploads/20150410_124754.jpg~320x480
ulli
10th April 2015, 12:38
Tulip carpet in Holland
Can't see the pic, but this'll be my fault: we were making plans yesterday to go and have a look.
Lucky you, to be able to see those flowers in the flesh.
YET...Wondering what the carpet image would look like at ground level.
Maybe they offer trips in hot air balloons to get a better picture.
RunningDeer
10th April 2015, 13:37
Still ‘gone fishin’. I give a check-in. I don’t want to leave anyone out so I hit the “invisible thanks” button to you All.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Animals/images_zpsokfww2np.jpeg
Dragons come to me when I walk and sometimes they sleep behind the pine trees in my yard. Smiling guardians, but they know I need no guidance. So we’re good friends. Many are white...‘purity of spirit’ to my way of knowing.
If DRAGON shows up, it means:
New phase of your life, one where you’ll be taking more risks and be more vulnerable, yet well protected.
Past-life connection to a time when Earth-based spiritual practices were predominant.
Entering into a period of considerable prosperity.
Spend time in contemplation and you’ll receive valuable insights and inspiration.
If DRAGON is your POWER ANIMAL:
Contemporary wizard, evolved spiritually and wisdom and skills strengthen with age.
A commanding presence and carry yourself with an air of dignity and regality.
Open-minded and accepting of other’s spiritual paths and of new ideas and possibilities.
Enthusiastic and lots of vitality, that’s contagious.
RunningDeer http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
I woke this morning in the middle of a strange dream that I remembered. I was in a high rise hotel and there were dragons flying around outside.
I opened the door I was face to face with a white pale looking dragon.
Same problem i have.
RunningDeer
10th April 2015, 13:43
FYI: Limor asks for prayers/good thoughts/healing energies. [see here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72502-Message-Board-Avalonians-Request-Our-Help&p=950982&viewfull=1#post950982)]
I will be most greatful for any prayers/ good thoughts/ healing energies that can be sent her way
Many Thanks,
Limor
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Haya-tova_zpsbjwb0d8v.jpg
<3
eaglespirit
10th April 2015, 13:59
Going to take a month break from PA and Facebook from tomorrow.
will spend more alone time in nature, and in the stillness of the present moment :)
See you later, and take care <3
http://rs10.pbsrc.com/albums/a138/fresia333/Mobile%20Uploads/20150410_124754.jpg~320x480
Love, Love, Love Nature Spirits, Natalia...Enjoy!!!
I'm walkin' that path too...
a couple Family jobs to finish and then I'll be on my way to ECETI around the end of the month!
I'll be workin' their carpentry 'wish list' and BE connectin' with Nature,
Mountain and River and 'less-populated' style and onward with my personal 'spirit' quests right in front of me in the now : )
Aho!!!
Mikelodium
10th April 2015, 15:44
Here and now I feel devastated. My aunt is dying of cancer... I can't believe it yet, she was fine a week ago. She was just having some backache, and now is dying of backbone cancer.
She is a wonderful person, full of positiveness, used to work as a teacher and everyone loves her... Seriously, I can't believe it. She is like a second mother to me.
So so so unfair... So hard to accept.
Frenchy
10th April 2015, 16:36
I don't like to sound 'off the wall', but I AM reading seemingly miraculous results world-wide with MMS ( see Jim Humble ) and stuff called ' Diatomous Earth ' ? And if you research Ron Reagan's use of the Venus Flytrap extract ( carnivova [?] ) , maybe there's always hope ? ( Cancers are on Epidemic levels, so they're manufactured ? BTW, in the JFK assassination lie, Lee Harvey was the boyfriend of Judith ( who created a cancer which would kill a victim, in seven days.................
courage to all......
dan33
10th April 2015, 20:19
http://www.spuelgel.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/i-69327dcda447eebf32328f1e3e34c716-merkel-be-careful-with-superglue.jpg
Ain't funny? Nope. Didn't come up with the gesture herself [look for a ted talk on body language (https://youtu.be/ZZZ7k8cMA-4?t=10m50s)].
DON'T TRY SUPERGLUE ON "BEE GEES" CHEST WOLF-HUMAN.
Use https://www.alpel.es/images/product/m/SCHWARZKOPF-BONACURE-OIL-MIRACLE-CHAMPU-200-ML__7102.jpg
Consult your nearest chemist.
Each of us at home and God in everyone. .... but check chemist. :)
BQPBk0RD8d0
Jean-Marie
11th April 2015, 02:28
I woke this morning in the middle of a strange dream that I remembered. I was in a high rise hotel and there were dragons flying around outside. I was trying to pull the shades down and lock the doors because they were going to get in if they saw us. There were other people there with me, but no one I recognized. I was running and locking doors behind me. Two of them got in. They were small (no bigger than a horse) but I ran through a door and locked them out. At one point I tried to escape via the hallway and when I opened the door I was face to face with a white pale looking dragon. No flames, no fire. I was terrified and slammed and bolted the door.
Anyone good at dream interpretations????
Thank you!
-jean-marie
Very weird dream........
Same problem i have. You're running from chaos and in doing so you end up running from those you love in the process. You have to learn how to face the dragon, face all fears, to protect what you love, and to show your enemies that they will not trample you.
Hello Protoflex!
I have had a couple of Pm's from people regarding your post. My post that you quoted here was a post I made back on August 18, 2014. 8 months ago! LOL!!!
Nora replied to the post that day. And it was exactly what I needed to hear, I wanted to join the healers group, but was worried I might not be good enough! I took a leap and it has been a wonderful experience!
Here was Nora's reply to me.
Good morning Jean-Marie,
I'm no expert on dream interpretation.
You may have some strong gifts spiritually and psychically that need to be actualized here on earth.
I would say your High Spiritual-self is pushing the envelope. What are you afraid of and/or resisting?
(There are some strong potent energies in the aethers right now helping us to move forward.). Cool dream.
Love
Nora
Bluegreen
11th April 2015, 03:06
Add to this that Masons are only male secret society, therefore depriving women of any possibilities of accessing higher positions in society as well.
Yes, so it seems. The official site's admission rules, short version:
Tot wie richt zich de Reguliere Vrijmetselarij in België ?
De Reguliere Grootloge van België richt zich tot alle mannen die direct of indirect elke dag opnieuw betrokken zijn bij de uitdagingen, projecten en vragen (sic) maatschappij van de 21ste eeuw en zij geloven dat er eerder iets dan niets is.
(from this source/link (www.glrb.net/nl/)to the official Lodge's site)
Whom does Regular Freemasonry address in Belgium?
The Regular Grand Lodge of Belgium addresses all men who are directly or indirectly involved in challenges, projects and (?) issues of the 21th century society and they believe there is rather something than nothing.
Be there good times ahead for you, Flash...:wizard:
(Don't understand the Belgie stuff)
There is the Order of the Eastern Star, which the Masons' website says is mixed, but is in reality female. They have the same blood-curdling oaths (paraphrasing: We'll rip your guts out and throw them into the public square if you cross us, etc.) as the males.
http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/women-freemasons.html
Flash
11th April 2015, 03:18
Add to this that Masons are only male secret society, therefore depriving women of any possibilities of accessing higher positions in society as well.
Yes, so it seems. The official site's admission rules, short version:
Tot wie richt zich de Reguliere Vrijmetselarij in België ?
De Reguliere Grootloge van België richt zich tot alle mannen die direct of indirect elke dag opnieuw betrokken zijn bij de uitdagingen, projecten en vragen (sic) maatschappij van de 21ste eeuw en zij geloven dat er eerder iets dan niets is.
(from this source/link (www.glrb.net/nl/)to the official Lodge's site)
Whom does Regular Freemasonry address in Belgium?
The Regular Grand Lodge of Belgium addresses all men who are directly or indirectly involved in challenges, projects and (?) issues of the 21th century society and they believe there is rather something than nothing.
Be there good times ahead for you, Flash...:wizard:
(Don't understand the Belgie stuff)
There is the Order of the Eastern Star, which the Masons' website says is mixed, but is in reality female. They have the same blood-curdling oaths (paraphrasing: We'll rip your guts out and throw them into the public square if you cross us, etc.) as the males.
http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/women-freemasons.html
have you seen any member of the Eastern Star have any political clout and power? Ever? Except for being the wifes of their Free Mason husbands?
Also, for free Masons, Americans must understands that is it very difficult to climb the ladder of free masonry in Europe, contrarily to the relative ease of doing so in America. In fact, European free masons often think the their American 32nd degree does not Worth much cause not much efforts were required compared with their european counterparts.
Carmody
11th April 2015, 03:48
Speaking of all of that, I got a very rotten look from a person who had the looks (appearance) to 'stand out' in a crowd, today.
But I am pushing pretty hard at the rolling and roiling edge of change in humanity, these days. It is to be expected.
Bluegreen
11th April 2015, 05:04
I've never seen a member of the Eastern Star have political clout and power, but I have seen a member of the Eastern Star.
That's all.
:)
Radi
11th April 2015, 08:52
hey you guys, you think this food for thought videos deserve separate thread ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsyplaii9p4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-oeoOqaYU
or can you recommend a thread that is good for posting them in ?
ulli
11th April 2015, 10:06
Speaking of all of that, I got a very rotten look from a person who had the looks (appearance) to 'stand out' in a crowd, today.
But I am pushing pretty hard at the rolling and roiling edge of change in humanity, these days. It is to be expected.
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody.
Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
Tide is changing, and the first wave is dragging in the rest of the ocean.
Or is the ocean pushing that first wave?
ulli
11th April 2015, 10:12
hey you guys, you think this food for thought videos deserve separate thread ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsyplaii9p4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-oeoOqaYU
or can you recommend a thread that is good for posting them in ?
I would say go ahead and start a thread with those videos, Radi.
Then you can get a discussion going, which I doubt would happen here in this thread.
But learn how to embed them. There is a thread called Sandbox Thread where you can get tips.
And also write a small introduction and give your opinion, because Avalonians won't click on videos that are longer than 6 minutes unless they have become convinced beforehand that it is worth their time.
Natalia
11th April 2015, 11:22
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
Calz
11th April 2015, 11:30
Oooops is this a bad time???
Gone so long I just wanted to post a song (just for fun ... not related to anything posted within recent memory ...)
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/121.gif http://www.pic4ever.com/images/121.gif
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/zthinking2.gif
Remember this from my first college party ... won't admit to much else ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1uWA7VPGiE
ulli
11th April 2015, 11:36
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
Carmody's contributions have merit....
Calz
11th April 2015, 12:06
Carmody's contributions have merit....
umm ... yes
why would that be in doubt after all this time?
Calz
11th April 2015, 12:28
have another whilst I am here ...
good message ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
Flash
11th April 2015, 12:52
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
Natalia,you are wrong here. I have seen her being quite comprehensive and a bit like me, taking a mother's role, but with her own style. We both have been very protective of you.
I do think that what you write is truly unfair. Through years, I have known Ulli as a real great soul. But she will do mothering more the European way, since she is European. Me I will do it the North American way.
In truth, everyone benefits a lot from her wisdom and you could too, I am sure of this.
With love,
Flash
And she is right, I am behind Carmody anytime too. Another exceptional soul needing exceptional support, as Ulli is. Both greater and more developed than me in soul terms by the way, and I respect and admire the path they have been threading. And I take them as an example as well.
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I still have to come back on the post you all had left me previously, as soon as I can cause I want to write something worthwhile and take the time.
Violet
11th April 2015, 12:55
Greetings to Aragorn (if you are reading). I honestly don't have a clue why. Or why now...But the greetings are sincerely for you.
The moon called me to the garden again last night, in my dreams. It's so identical to that other time, with the blue owls (see album), that I have a feeling that this was lucid. It called me, not with voice...It just called, middle of the night. Door open, curtain swinging,...An invitation. Then the fire alarm goes off, in the dream. I head back into the house, the fire alarm stops. I go back to that invitation, the moon is still waiting. And it feels like a luminant rescue helicopter waiting in the skies, for me. Not your general moon illuminating all. A personal message.
Other thing - switch back to real world - last week I went out without one of these accessories:
http://www.forever21.com/images/default_750/50162217-02.jpg
Bare-throated. It's an evolution. I think my throat chakra is also saying something. It was a very difficult thing to do,...After years of hiding my throat, safe feeling.
Post-update:
Flash, European way, do tell us more...:eyebrows:
Bluegreen, right under the België/Dutch text comes a literal translation of it in English. I will add that it's a translation, just a minute.
Marianne
11th April 2015, 13:14
Natalie, I agree with Flash that you are wrong about Ulli. Try to see this more objectively, with detachment.
As one of the village crones, I have counseled you privately time and again. This comes from my wish to see you grow in your soul, and my love for you. Yes, we are protective of you, as a young one who needs guidance. I would not say these words now except that you have been unfair to Ulli, who works everyday to help others evolve.
Taking time off to reflect, truly and deeply, is a good thing for you at this time. Go barefoot on the earth and let nature fill you with compassion. We'll see you on the flip side.
Love you,
Marianne
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
araucaria
11th April 2015, 13:16
I think it is a mistake to view the respect that someone commands in terms of oneself – not childish, just a waste of time, energy, whatever. That person, be it Carmody, Bill Ryan, President Obama or whoever, has earned that respect and status for reasons specific to them. It is no reflection of my inferior worth that on those terms I for one cannot compete: I am not trying to compete. My own input is simply more minute, which is by no means insignificant or less significant since all any of us are doing is attending to minutiae. Aby Warburg used to say God is in the details; a good place to be because that is where the devil likes to hang out.
A difficult thing to master is sensing the importance of the unimportant (and vice versa). I am of crucial importance because I’m here and because I’m me; I am happy to leave the formidable task of being Carmody to Carmody, and this applies to any other person as well, and it works both ways.
The one lesson of spirituality is that we are all worth way more than we ever give ourselves credit for. In other words, the present world is structurally unfair and we are all getting short-changed. That is the given that is not going to change until we get over it.
Edit: Flash, I hadn't seen your post (or Marianne's) when I wrote this - didn't even see them second time around :o
Flash
11th April 2015, 13:31
I think it is a mistake to view the respect that someone commands in terms of oneself – not childish, just a waste of time, energy, whatever. That person, be it Carmody, Bill Ryan, President Obama or whoever, has earned that respect and status for reasons specific to them. It is no reflection of my inferior worth that on those terms I for one cannot compete: I am not trying to compete. My own input is simply more minute, which is by no means insignificant or less significant since all any of us are doing is attending to minutiae. Aby Warburg used to say God is in the details; a good place to be because that is where the devil likes to hang out.
A difficult thing to master is sensing the importance of the unimportant (and vice versa). I am of crucial importance because I’m here and because I’m me; I am happy to leave the formidable task of being Carmody to Carmody, and this applies to any other person as well, and it works both ways.
The one lesson of spirituality is that we are all worth way more than we ever give ourselves credit for. In other words, the present world is structurally unfair and we are all getting short-changed. That is the given that is not going to change until we get over it.
I agree, Araucaria, but the younger ones, like me on some cases, have to have mentors and embodied souls that are look up to in order to thread their own path. And have the humility to admit it. Sometimes, it is someone less threaded on his own path that is an example as well, but it is more difficult to discern.
When I speak like I did, I do it with myself in mind and with others in mind too. But fundamentally, I am agreeing with your post here.
Ernie Nemeth
11th April 2015, 15:50
My life has been saturated with Capricorns, so I know of what I speak - and a mental note to self to listen.
Unless otherwise augmented by softening aspects Capricorns are rooted in this present world. They are not the architects, they are the gatekeepers. They hold reality together for the rest of us - for better or worse. They are pragmatic to a fault. Ruled by their minds and rationality, they are not much into the esoteric or even controversial science or technology. They are the quintessential "parent figure". No amount of cajoling or arguing is likely to change a Capricorn's stance on any subject but that does not mean they are closed-minded, on the contrary, they understand that fads come and go and that there are things that must get done in the meantime. They are the responsible ones, the trusted ones; they can be taken at their word. Often, however, their best intentions are based on experience interpreted by their Capricorn minds and that is usually not the best advice or action for others of a lesser character (not ruled by the illusory world we live in).
My father, sister and her husband, two old girlfriends, and three of my very best friends are Capricorns.
So, while a Capricorn might give you that condescending smile that makes you feel inferior, it is because they truly feel they are seeing things in their true light - just like the rest of us mere mortals. Best to take it up one notch and see that not all things real are visible or understood or even realized. Let them smile and know that they, like you, have their blind spots.
Capricorns have trouble with emotion and showing their feelings or even acknowledging they have any. It is for the rest of us to show them how.
So hug a Capricorn today and tell them how important they are to your life.
When the change has come and gone, we will need them to anchor our new world and give us stability.
That is their strong suit.
Natalia
11th April 2015, 16:01
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
Carmody's contributions have merit....
and so have some of mine...what you just said there, was the same as saying "Natalie, your contributions don't have any merit"
That sais it all, Uli. I would never (indirectly) say that a member's contributions, does not have merit.
You don't have to like me, but that devaluing does not have merit, to me, even if it does to some others.
Never forget that the Here and Now Village stands behind you, Carmody. Your efforts will bear fruit, and soon.
You have never been nice to me like that, most of the posts that you have replied to me have been talking down to me, harsh, and with misunderstandings, and other members supported it (I know not all - thank you) as if I deserved, I did not. I forgave you and never gave you back not nearly as bad as you gave me, but I have to say this now.
Don't talk to me again unless you are going to be respectful, and that goes for a few of the other people here, as well - don't talk to me like I am a child, no excuses.
I'm outta here.
Natalia,you are wrong here. I have seen her being quite comprehensive and a bit like me, taking a mother's role, but with her own style. We both have been very protective of you.
I do think that what you write is truly unfair. Through years, I have known Ulli as a real great soul. But she will do mothering more the European way, since she is European. Me I will do it the North American way.
In truth, everyone benefits a lot from her wisdom and you could too, I am sure of this.
With love,
Flash
And she is right, I am behind Carmody anytime too. Another exceptional soul needing exceptional support, as Ulli is. Both greater and more developed than me in soul terms by the way, and I respect and admire the path they have been threading. And I take them as an example as well.
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I still have to come back on the post you all had left me previously, as soon as I can cause I want to write something worthwhile and take the time.
So nothing that I have said about ulli's responses to me, is right, in that, she has never talked down to me and has never been too harsh? That's all in my head, is it? I wonder if everyone believes that? I am not saying that she is not a good soul, and I know at times she has tried to help me, in her own way (just like I have tried to help others, in my own way), but she is definitely one that most people could not criticize without other people telling them that they are wrong...but it's ok for her to criticize others...
Humility works both ways, I did my part on that, I always listened to what ulli, you, and Marianne had to say...even when you were too harsh or too not trusting of me, or over protective...I am saying now, it has gone too far, guys, and why don't you listen?
Humility works both ways. Humility means not talking down to others. Humility means seeing everyone has value, even if you don't personally see it as much as with another...Carmody (sorry, this is not about you at all) deserves respect and I am not arguing with that at all, and so do I, if you don't want to give it to me, especially when I am not being rude to anybody (and hardly ever am), then it's not something that I respect - I respect, respect, and I don't respect it when people are being condescending. None of us are perfect, we all have "our things" about us...and our gifts...
So all of you 3 think, that there is nothing that you can learn from me about yourselves and your interactions with me, and it's all to do with me learning from you? Just because you are all older than me, does not mean that you are wiser than me in every single way and all of the time...I can accept, and have, that you are in some ways, and I respect that...
Edit: by the way, on mentors...we choose who our mentors are, not the other way around...or we both choose each other...
Natalie, I agree with Flash that you are wrong about Ulli. Try to see this more objectively, with detachment.
As one of the village crones, I have counseled you privately time and again. This comes from my wish to see you grow in your soul, and my love for you. Yes, we are protective of you, as a young one who needs guidance. I would not say these words now except that you have been unfair to Ulli, who works everyday to help others evolve.
Taking time off to reflect, truly and deeply, is a good thing for you at this time. Go barefoot on the earth and let nature fill you with compassion. We'll see you on the flip side.
Love you,
Marianne
Marianne, you have been the sweetest to me out of all of you 3, and I know that you care, but it has at times been a bit too much...I have never asked for someone to mother me...I have at times appreciated it and it has helped me to grow. I have at times felt a little "picked on" and people taking advantage of my weakness and/or mistakes, and pointing that out to discredit me, and to justify their actions.
ulli could think to herself "hmmm, maybe I have at times been a bit too harsh"
Flash and yourself could think to yourself "hmmm, maybe I have at times been a bit too interfering"
Or any other way that you could question yourself, as I sometimes question myself.
Humility works both ways, and so does respect.
Edit, to add, here is a post that I found rather condescending and belittling and an exaggeration (one of several over the months), and the fact that quite a lot of people liked it (including me, being respectful of how ulli felt, but it did not feel nice...), did hurt a little, as they were supporting it. Ulli, you are not always mature, either...and there is a difference between being youthful, and being immature...a difference between trusting your intuition that does not make logical sense to someone else, and being naive...
"
From here on I will ignore your apparent age and maturity, and remember that expecting people to behave according to their age is a bit unfair. I know some guys in their sixties who still behave like 13 year old boys. I do have a hard time with them, too. Which goes to show how much I'm still prey to passing judgments.
I'm sorry if I haven't addressed your real needs, coming from such (unfair) expectations.
Maybe if I knew your full history I would be more understanding.
Marianne
11th April 2015, 16:20
Flash and yourself could think to yourself "hmmm, maybe I have at times been a bit too interfering"
As long as I'm an Avalon moderator, I will interfere as appropriate when I see you doing things that are not good for the forum.
Avalon is not a dating site.
Natalie, perhaps you should find another thread if you don't see the value in this one.
Natalia
11th April 2015, 16:31
Flash and yourself could think to yourself "hmmm, maybe I have at times been a bit too interfering"
As long as I'm an Avalon moderator, I will interfere as appropriate when I see you doing things that are not good for the forum.
Avalon is not a dating site.
Natalie, perhaps you should find another thread if you don't see the value in this one.
Yes I will leave this thread, as I am not valued here by the queens, and also it's only respectful for me to leave it, and seen as it's ulli's thread and I do not see her as my queen (I am my own, and I choose my own respectful mentors who also choose me) or more evolved than me (shocking, huh? I must be delusional...)...and that must mean lack of humility on my part...
Also, me posting my skype and facebook page in the member's only section was not about dating and did not have that tone to it, not everything that I do when wanting to connect is about dating, other people have done that, including Omni who posted his Skype address and wanting to connect with others, in a public thread, and he did not receive a moderator's PM about it...plus I got a PM from another member saying how wrong I was to post it...I know that you guys care, but at times, it's over the top. One member added me on Facebook, we had a nice chat, my intuition told me it would be ok to share my Facebook page and Skype in the member's only section, and to talk to him.
Goodbye to this thread! It's been nice while it lasted (and minus the condescending bits), I am my own queen.
(by the way, being condescending is good for this forum, is it?).
0bgRA04Dx6E
Respect & Honour ~ Cora Flora
I am an old soul in a young body
We are all infinite equals with unique challenges and blessings
I respect and honour my feelings
I respect and honour my self
I believe and sing my true feelings
I respect the voice of my soul
I'm not here to feed your self-esteem
I respect and honour you, but if you don't reciprocate I will leave
I respect and honour my feelings
I respect and honour my self
I express and honour my feelings
I expect respect in return
I am here to shine my love light
and be my true blue beautiful wonderful soul
If my light shows you your shadows,
you can resist or you can grow
And if your light shows me my shadows,
I will honour you and grow
Judgement, jealousy, gossip, belittling energy
Were only blocking us from being the best that we can be
We are designed for harmony
I am here to respect and honour you,
while respecting and honouring me ~
It feels like flying free ~
Ernie Nemeth
11th April 2015, 16:47
Thanks to "My name is Earl" for this suggestion.
AymtlSTW_rA
1inMany
11th April 2015, 17:31
Oh dear. Well then....um...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/daisyseven1/animated_broom.gif
Here and now...doing some major clearing out. Heavy duty. Funny, thought to stop by. Now I understand. Maybe I shall post a couple of Angels and clear a path for Divinity to meander through the Village. Yes. This I will do.
:wizard:
Oh my goodness gracious, where in the world did this beauty come from? :blackwidow:
I like her!
Much Love,
1inMany
11th April 2015, 17:46
Dearest Mikelodium, my prayers for strength are with you and your family.
Ernie, so awesome to hear from you! I know what you mean with Capricorns, M is one. And my mom was also. I adore the idea of hugging a Capricorn, count me in!
Much Love to my Village family. God bless us, every one.
ulli
11th April 2015, 18:47
I'm sorry, people, but I believe I am having a bout of forum fatigue.
Getting specific reactions coerced out of me and having words put in my mouth
is not my idea of a fruitful discussion. I don't know what to say.
I could try and defend myself by sharing a PM which I sent to Natalie,
in which I opened up and even shared parts of my own history and childhood.
Maybe she was hoping to get into a regular conversation but I just didn't have the time.
I don't PM much these days.
I wish I could find a visual image to express how I feel, since I can't find the appropriate words.
Maybe later.
Jean-Marie
11th April 2015, 19:12
Hello everyone,
I wanted to give you an update on my son Kyle. He missed the appointment with my friend and overslept! Sigh...... I can only try again! Thank you for the well wishes! I am hoping the intent shared by everyone here helps him!
-jean-marie
Flash
11th April 2015, 19:15
I do not answer to unfair criticism, usage of victimhood in order to get attention and manipulation through "oh poor me, I am Worth nothing". I never intended to compare anyone, but yes, I intended to give fair credit to those whom have shown through time here on the forum that they are holding up as great beings. Period. No comparison.
The one comparing is the one complaining that she is not looked at, all the time. Well, if you feel you are less, or more, or different, of whatever, that is what you become.
Me, when my daughter was doing temper tantrum in a food store at 4 years old, I was leaving her on the floor and I would go to another aisle. She had to pick herself up by herself. Luckily, in Canada, nobody would pick her up for me, which they would do in Turkey. But there, they had other ways of stopping children temper tantrum. Because yes, it is what it looks like, that you accept it or not.
And Ulli, you are not guilty, you did not provoqued it, you are nobody's mom here on the forum and do not have to feel guilty for not giving any of us attention (i could have complaint countless time of the lack of attention I got on this forum, like one thank or none at all for my posts sometimes, but who cares, certainly not me).
I have had enough of this kind of behavior, mom is tired and had enough.
How difficult to tel a forty years old woman or a 62 years old boyfriend to grow up.
Selkie
11th April 2015, 19:26
Here is a picture of chocolate cake. Just because...cake! :)
http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/mainimages/13-12-14_Make-Drake-Chocolate-Cake-in-5-Steps.jpg
Jean-Marie
11th April 2015, 19:38
Dear Ulli,
You have always looked out for everyone and have provided great wisdom and insight!
Your good intentions are always very appreciated by me. There are just some people who don't want to be helped. We can see and recognize the risky behaviors, have great insight and love in our hearts to provide gentle correction and guidance. There are just some souls whose hearts are not open and willing to listen. They cannot open their eyes, see their mistakes and take responsibility for themselves. Instead they feel sorry for themselves, they feel attacked instead of embracing that love. We can read their words and hear their constant cries for help, but they lash out and attack those that are trying to help them.
I am sending you loving vibrations and energy to carry on! :heart:
Stephanie
11th April 2015, 19:48
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/7a9d5b03130715b47e3c421c81648279_zps1kp7oq6e.jpg
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/ff7672787ef0e699f002e7393f4206c7_zpskzelh68i.jpg
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/a290807c78991e4bdc8b69cebb0042f6_zpsxn4n3iiq.jpg
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/7dab3629365b6ddfbc9caffd7a324706_zpsv7ct6at6.jpg
I am sitting beside you in your little/big piece of heaven.
Blessings to each and everyone of you.
RunningDeer
11th April 2015, 19:55
Smudging the Village with peace and love.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Healed/peace_zpsux3xwqtn.jpg
Dropping by with a dose of peace. Been feeling pissy. I pulled my back twice over a three week period. With a one day reprieve in between.
Too much snow to shovel, I figure, and the realization that this older version needs a different kind of TLC. In any case, it makes me feel vulnerable.
Laying low from this here village and other places cuz, I don’t want to infect anyone with the crazy, impatient energies bubbling up inside me.
[Full stop]
It’s almost 60F/15C degrees and sunny. Wind chimes are working overtime. Got out to walk with my pigeon friends. No mention of, “Where the heck have you been, Bird-Seed Lady?” Only happy cheer. Dang! love the unconditional love.
RunningDeer http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
RunningDeer
11th April 2015, 20:16
Me, when my daughter was doing temper tantrum in a food store at 4 years old, I was leaving her on the floor and I would go to another aisle. She had to pick herself up by herself. Luckily, in Canada, nobody would pick her up for me, which they would do in Turkey. But there, they had other ways of stopping children temper tantrum. Because yes, it is what it looks like, that you accept it or not.
That reminded me of when my son pulled a temper tantrum in the store. I invited him to get louder because it was he that everyone was looking at. I pointed to some of the understanding folks who became instant aunties and uncles for those couple of moments that felt like an hour.
He stopped and never did it again. That was one of those times when I had a quick solution that came out of no where. [I suspect there were big wings over my shoulder, too.]
Iarmhéid
11th April 2015, 21:08
I just wanted to say I'm 'back' sort of, as time allows - I've been abroad teaching English in China... a very difficult experience for someone who loves nature, clean air and sunshine... so much so I cut my contract short. I 'needed' money.. but now I've found new appreciation of such basic things, and a deep feeling of grief for what is being stolen from the children of that corner of the world... such basic things we take for granted..
I'm actually very lonely now I'm back in England. There are few to discuss matters of earth and spirit with here, and I hope I can find some friendships here. Soon I will venture to N.Ireland, Spain and Portugal, perhaps I can find some Avalon folk from these countries. :-)
ulli
11th April 2015, 22:43
http://i.imgur.com/hphxuzl.gif?gifm
The one in the red t-shirt is me.
But fact is that I am used to mud now, having been gardening for the last month.
Ground training, in a way.
Interesting also that simply offering Carmody some backing gets one into the line of fire.
It's called living dangerously.
Flash
12th April 2015, 01:26
Carmody is right, he is very often directly or indirectly targetted;) I thought for a while that it was paranoïa:p Glad it is not:shielddeflect:
Dennis Leahy
12th April 2015, 01:53
Sending a :grouphug: to the Village and its denizens, er, I mean lovely people.
Natalia, make a big batch of vegetable curry, I'll make a big bowl of guacamole, and we'll meet on Ulli's back porch - with a big pot of Costa Rican coffee...and we'll talk and laugh until we can see the stars reflected in each others' eyes.
Literally thousands of times, I tucked my daughter in and told her, "I love you with all my heart and soul - don't ever forget!"
I'm suggesting that we never lose sight of our deep and abiding love and compassion for one another. It's our foundation, our glue, our nucleus. Don't ever forget. :~)
Playdo of Ataraxas
12th April 2015, 03:36
Compassion and mercy. Harumph! Thanks Ernie and 1InMany, as a Capricorn, I will take your hugs! Universe is as Universe does, to quote my great buddy PL. If you want Universe to give you sh!t, then that's what you'll get even if good intentions are sent your way. Perspective, balance, compassion is key. If you want love, be willing to give it when you don't think you're getting it. Ho'oponopono.
Right now I'm asking Universe for hugs! Mucho abrazos amigos y amigas!
A Voice from the Mountains
12th April 2015, 05:44
I'm suggesting that we never lose sight of our deep and abiding love and compassion for one another. It's our foundation, our glue, our nucleus. Don't ever forget. :~)
I second that.
Someone was posting earlier about how certain other people were so much better than her in this and that way. Compliments are nice to give sometimes but I hope everyone here remembers that no one is truly better than anyone else.
We all have our own blessings and challenges and everyone is here to learn something. No one is better than anyone else. I just posted this in some other thread too, but none of you are better than me, I'm not better than any of you, and none of you are better than each other. And I hope you all love yourselves too because you can't really love anybody else if you aren't able to really love yourself first. Then we can treat each other with more respect.
As equals. :)
Mikelodium
12th April 2015, 07:10
My beloved aunt Pilar past away this early morning.
Here and now, with my heart full of tears and sorrow, I want to share with you villagers this wonderful song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J6PPkKBXoU
Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Where do we go when we die?
What lies beyond
And what lay before?
Is anything certain in life?
They say "Life is too short"
"The here and the now"
And "You're only given one shot"
But could there be more
Have I lived before
Or could this be all that we've got?
If I die tomorrow
I'd be alright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
I used to be frightened of dying
I used to think death was the end
But that was before
I'm not scared anymore
I know that my soul will transcend
I may never find all the answers
I may never understand why
I may never prove
What I know to be true
But I know that I still have to try
If I die tomorrow
I'd be alright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
"Move on, be brave
Don't weep at my grave
Because I'm no longer here
But please never let
Your memories of me disappear"
Safe in the light that surrounds me
Free of the fear and the pain
My questioning mind
Has help me to find
The meaning in my life again
Victoria's real
I finally feel
At peace with the girl in my dreams
And now that I'm here
It's perfectly clear
I found out what all of this means
If I die tomorrow
I'd be alright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
May Gaia take care of you, Pilar. I love you so much.
araucaria
12th April 2015, 07:23
So sorry to hear about your aunt Mikelodium. I am not very good at comforting words, but you are in my compassionate thoughts listening to your music..
Natalia
12th April 2015, 08:24
I'm sorry to hear about your aunt, Mikelodium
For the true and genuine care and kindness that has been shown to me here in this thread, I thank you.
I don't belong here, and that's not really a personal thing, it just is.
I want to leave it with the love that is in my heart, and remembering the good that is in all of us. So I am going to do a meditation on that in a minute.
We are all god's children (I'm not religious, but I believe that).
Stephanie
12th April 2015, 08:32
Material as I am, I know that I am born for a day.
But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course,
my feet no longer touch the earth.
Ptolemy
Wings of light and love, and a crown of stars, for dearest Pilar.
All my blessings, Mikelodium.
Violet
12th April 2015, 08:32
I just wanted to say I'm 'back' sort of, as time allows - I've been abroad teaching English in China... a very difficult experience for someone who loves nature, clean air and sunshine... so much so I cut my contract short. I 'needed' money.. but now I've found new appreciation of such basic things, and a deep feeling of grief for what is being stolen from the children of that corner of the world... such basic things we take for granted..
I'm actually very lonely now I'm back in England. There are few to discuss matters of earth and spirit with here, and I hope I can find some friendships here. Soon I will venture to N.Ireland, Spain and Portugal, perhaps I can find some Avalon folk from these countries. :-)
I knew a girl. She only returns to Belgium when the money runs out :) Then she works some temporary jobs, collects enough money and plunges back into the African greens/deserts/.... Up and off. Unfortunately (I find), she doesn't make much notes (says she's not much of a writer), she has the most beautiful and poetic stories...
I read some of your poems too, a while back. Although I don't remember them well enough to trace any travel experience processing.
Paula still clearing snow is pretty fascinating from here:
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(Yea, windows need cleaning again)
:flower: A big week's time.
My condolences, Mikelodium.
RunningDeer
12th April 2015, 09:26
Paula still clearing snow is pretty fascinating from here:
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(Yea, windows need cleaning again)
:flower: A big week's time.
Purty tulips, Violet. No flowers yet. Happy to finally see the brown and green grasses.
Yesterday, the landlady’s hubby plowed down the rest of the springtime piles of snow so they’d melt in the above freezing daytime temps. It snowed last weekend but that 3-4 inches/7-10 cm was nothing by comparison to the winter’s non-stop bombings.
Alls that’s left around town are the really big piles of dirty snow, the salty dust and sand and bits of litter that got trapped this past winter. The highway crews are beginning to shovel and recycle the sand.
Been up since 3:30 a.m. filled with Christmas morning excitement. Today will top off at a sunny 66F/18C degrees. I’m going for a walk in state forest. The river will be loud and icy cold.
This past week was the catch and release program for my ladybug friends. I scoop them up with a dixie cup and gave them one last ride to the outside deck rail.
“Thanks for the hospitality,” they said as they flew off.
“Be careful out there,” I tell them. “See you in the fall.”
<3
RunningDeer
12th April 2015, 09:55
My beloved aunt Pilar past away this early morning.
Here and now, with my heart full of tears and sorrow, I want to share with you villagers this wonderful song.
Mikelodium, sorry for the loss of Aunt Pilar. It happened fast. I’m trying to find a bright side. At least your second mother figure (if I recall correctly) didn’t suffer with long, drawn-out pain.
Speaking of pain…there’s only a couple more weeks before for your first hip surgery (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=941090&viewfull=1#post941090). (Trying to figure what to write for the next line here.) I got a nothin’. So I’ll leave you with a teddy-bear hug.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/teddy_bears_hug2_zpsriopzwg4.JPG
And one for Aunt Pilar.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/teddy-bear-hug1_zpsburoy02g.JPG
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
RunningDeer
12th April 2015, 10:00
And a Kitty Bear hug for Ulli.
))squish, squish((
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/kitty-Bear_zpsjfjou0w0.jpg
Compassion and mercy. Harumph! Thanks Ernie and 1InMany, as a Capricorn, I will take your hugs!
If you want love, be willing to give it when you don't think you're getting it. Ho'oponopono.
Right now I'm asking Universe for hugs! Mucho abrazos amigos y amigas!
So it is…
mushy hug for the Playdo.
))squish, squish((
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/hug_zpsv6ny8kav.jpg
And for the Villagers
))squish, squish((
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/TeddyBears2_zpsqvtluy7z.JPG
And Guests
))squish, squish((
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/guests_zpsqy4gmdpa.JPG
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
Mikelodium
12th April 2015, 12:18
Thank you so much for the kind words, villagers.
Paula, you are right. She was like a second mother, we shared so many things and we were neighbours too. Fortunately she did not suffer, the worst part happened in a few days. I can't believe it yet... I'm planning to plant an Holm Oak in the mountain with part of her remains next weekend. She loved our island and our mountais as I do.
And yes, my first hip surgery is near, hope all goes well. I'm a bit scared because never faced a surgery before.
Hugs for all of you, villagers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrTt0daF1Ak
ulli
12th April 2015, 13:12
View from my bed this morning...still a lingering cloud.
But the plants are happy, they enjoyed the recent rains.
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/9ce8bf127dd85a0cf9ccb3f403a25b00_zpsul9m0hdp.jpg
Natalia
12th April 2015, 19:52
Flash, ulli, Marianne,
I see that we have clashed at times and more so lately, but I care about you all, maybe you all care about me to.
Sometimes misunderstandings happen, and clashes, and triggers, as well as boundaries being crossed.
I mean no harm and don't want to hurt anyone, and in all of our hearts and higher self, I am sure that we all don't.
If we are not going to be buddy-buddy we can at least be respectful to one another, and forgive each other.
Peace and love
Wind
12th April 2015, 20:08
:yield:
CLEtGRUrtJo
Selkie
12th April 2015, 21:29
This afternoon I went to a fine restaurant and had a lovely, very rare filet mignon and got a little drunk :)
Selkie
12th April 2015, 21:34
View from my bed this morning...still a lingering cloud.
But the plants are happy, they enjoyed the recent rains.
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/9ce8bf127dd85a0cf9ccb3f403a25b00_zpsul9m0hdp.jpg
You know, don't you, Ulli, that these scenes are practically surreal in how astoundingly verdant they are :)
RunningDeer
12th April 2015, 22:19
This afternoon I went to a fine restaurant and had a lovely, very rare filet mignon and got a little drunk :)
And I got drunk on Mother Nature in the State Forest a couple of miles from where I live. A powerfully regenerative place. Her music touches me deeply. Enjoy!
cc_dxLWTujI
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
Selkie
12th April 2015, 22:32
I don't mean anything nearly that refined!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVY75G7Qu-Q
an addition
I also had a wonderful, far-ranging conversation with the bartender, a really awake and aware younger (than me) man. A very enjoyable afternoon, all around :)
Ernie Nemeth
13th April 2015, 00:21
Paula:
That reminded me of when my son pulled a temper tantrum in the store. I invited him to get louder because it was he that everyone was looking at. I pointed to some of the understanding folks who became instant aunties and uncles for those couple of moments that felt like an hour.
Reminded me of a similar incident at a restaurant when my daughter was four years old. She fell to the ground yelling and screaming and carrying on. I scooped her up and headed back to the car where I placed her in the back, turned her around and slapped her on her backside. Then I told her now she had a reason to cry. She never had another tantrum again.
But I like your solution far better - wish I'd thought of it at the time.
Although I'm not sure the other patrons would have been as understanding as your store shoppers were.
ulli
13th April 2015, 01:04
People, I am soo tired after the latest Natalia Show that I want to say my farewells, at least as a writer.
I might still send the odd picture. Progress with garden work, etc.
Her attack against me was so unwarranted, and it left me drained and depressed.
I just re-read my offending "harsh" posts and was reminded of how much care I actually took when composing them, to not sound condescending at the time, but in view of the fact that she sent those provocative underwear photos of herself, hugging her teddy bear, I felt my responses deserved a medal for self-restraint.
I wish you all well. Someone else can take over from here.
Long live The Village.
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 01:36
People, I am soo tired after the latest Natalia Show that I want to say my farewells, at least as a writer.
I might still send the odd picture. Progress with garden work, etc.
Her attack against me was so unwarranted, and it left me drained and depressed.
I just re-read my offending "harsh" posts and was reminded of how much care I actually took when composing them, to not sound condescending at the time, but in view of the fact that she sent those provocative underwear photos of herself, hugging her teddy bear, I felt my responses deserved a medal for self-restraint.
I wish you all well. Someone else can take over from here.
Long live The Village.
Dear Ulli,
I vote we ALL take care of the Village.
I vote you take some time for yourself and join in when you are refreshed.
I vote don't be so hard on yourself.
I think most folks are the hardest on themselves.
))squish, squish, squishy hug((
Love,
Paula <3
Flash
13th April 2015, 01:41
You know very well Ulli that I think you are much stronger than that, and that you worth and deserve much more.
I do understand though that you did not feel supported through these stupid temper tantrums of Natalia, and this is surely our main mistake here.
I had to restrain myself too when I saw the pics.
Guys, and I mean guys, will you wake up and do something for real to support the bright and intellectually/plus with emotional intelligent women. Ulli had given much energy to Natalia to be verbally spit on in return. Do something for Ulli this time around.
Even if Natalia excused herself, the damage is done and the spitting was unwarranted. Some of you did not even want me to bring up the Natalia's behavior.
Please put your pants on and help those who help others on and off threads, efficienly and regularly, on a NON VICTIM tone and approach, and Ulli is one of them.
Dennis Leahy
13th April 2015, 01:59
Ulli is appreciated more than she knows. I'd try to coax her off of her veranda and out of her new gardens onto her computer, but honestly... I would feel selfish doing that. Forum burnout is not cured by more forum, but by less forum. I think she's wise, has earned it, and needs to dig in the dirt, gaze out into that gorgeous valley, smell the smells, visit with the critters, and sip a cold [___________] (anything from lemonade to a beer to a margarita) on the new veranda. And breathe.
We love you sister.
Dennis
Marianne
13th April 2015, 02:02
Ulli, I completely understand.
You've given greatly of yourself to bring community unity here.
Flash, wish I could thank your post a hundred times. Thanks for that.
Sierra
13th April 2015, 02:03
I'm suggesting that we never lose sight of our deep and abiding love and compassion for one another. It's our foundation, our glue, our nucleus. Don't ever forget. :~)
I second that.
Someone was posting earlier about how certain other people were so much better than her in this and that way. Compliments are nice to give sometimes but I hope everyone here remembers that no one is truly better than anyone else.
We all have our own blessings and challenges and everyone is here to learn something. No one is better than anyone else. I just posted this in some other thread too, but none of you are better than me, I'm not better than any of you, and none of you are better than each other. And I hope you all love yourselves too because you can't really love anybody else if you aren't able to really love yourself first. Then we can treat each other with more respect.
As equals. :)
S'funny. Years ago, I was having a conversation with Carmen (or she responded to what I was saying) on the H&N thread, and I said something along the lines of "I love myself". Then I noticed what I had said. Chills running down my back and a heaving release in my heart, I staggered off and thought about what I had just said. It was true, and I have never lost the love for myself since.
It made/makes a HUGE difference in my life. I feel integrated. My thoughts and words align much more, and I can even use the awareness when they don't, signaling I need to stop, and examine the dichotomy inside me. I feel much less judgmental towards myself, and as like with love, the acceptance and tolerance, comes off myself to others. I can see this, and it pleases me so much. Life is much easier. It flows better.
It takes courage to speak the truth, especially so on a forum, where the data splits almost instantly into a hundred paths of focus, sympathy, and priority, among the members. The source, truth, origin of a brouhaha is often lost, and speaking as a moderator, much time, conversation, sharing of understanding of members, and effort is expended to arrive at an accurate and fair conclusion that we KNOW some members are going to disagree with. Comes with the territory.
I know this is true for members as well, if they are willing to listen to all sides of a story, over time.
Natalia got mad at Ulli, and expressed jealousy that she was not treated as well as Carmody, she was bullied, and why didn't she have a similar relationship? The assumption of bullying was based on inner history, not outer events. There was a misunderstanding.
A key issue in this communication was a history of bullying, and victim hood, causing developmental delay in social expression, a missing understanding of social conventions that allow communication to take place with less stress and friction.
As a profoundly deaf person, I suffered a similar social defect. Since I did not peak in my lip reading skills until I was forty-five, the social problem was compounded by my mind having to constantly cycle through alternatives to words I missed, that fit with the context, before I could respond verbally, highly stressful, lots of failure, lots of misunderstanding. I screwed up constantly in a group environment, would break out into a sweat at the phone ringing. I had a lot of judgement on myself.
I joined a deaf/Deaf bulletin board when AOL started. I found out I was actually doing a damn fine job as a deafie in a hearing environment. I started to learn all the ways a hearing environment messed up a deafie (nothing personal), and I learned tools, to handle chronic issues that had plagued me. I had to be up front, and honest. Communicate what wasn't working, and a solution. I had to teach too. 70% of English is invisible inside the mouth, and what one can lip read can be tricky too, and relies on context i.e. M, B, P as in man, ban, pan look the same, and those are very easy quick cycles to context and comprehension. I would give people a 100 word paragraph, tell them to cross out 25 words, and see the deviation in meaning. Welcome to what used to be my world.
Now I am blunt, and immediate in conversation, what I missed, what I need to make conversation work. Simple things in most cases, sunlight must be on your face not my face so I can see your mouth, a quiet restaurant, indoors sometimes, TV muted, I must invade your personal physical space to hear you, would you please trim your mustache while we work together on this project, dude, unlock your jaw, wildly wave my arms and get in someone's face until they back up and repeat what I missed. If I am in an intimate group environment, and I trust everyone, and it is the kind of conversation where each person speaks without feedback, I will even get up and sit down next to each person, since a one on one closeness, works best. All the teaching I did, I learned mostly from Deafies on AOL go figure, not deafies. A lot of tears shed, a lot of leaping joy, a lot of hard won satisfaction at the changes made.
The above may look like a digression but it is not. I attempt to show, truth comes from those who have been there, done that, know what works better, what provides growth, via a more understandable world, a way to navigate the social expectations AND the social reality.
In comes Flash, Ulli, and Marianne. I will use Flash as an example. (I love you Flash.)
I see Flash as someone who attained her crone wisdom through raising and loving a developmentally delayed person like me and Natalie. So she speaks with bluntness and honesty, driven, absolutely driven by time, under the gun of time, can I get the love of my life, educated, socialized, and independent before I die? Will she survive, with a realistic understanding of human nature, a realistic understanding of her limitations, a realistic understanding of what she needs to work on next, a realistic understanding of how to be happy in life, and what it takes, and most of all will she love herself?
What I personally consider Flash's and Mini's greatest accomplishment, is successful socialization, and socialization despite bullying. I know I cannot share what a big fracking deal this is, anyone rowing the same boat of delayed development, knows I tell the truth. Flash and Mini, are awesome.
Note this: Both bullying, and lack of social skills are triggers for Flash re Natalia's history. Combined with time driven learned bluntness, guess what.
It blew up, because of a complete lack of 3D relationship over time, building trust, correcting ways of communication on the fly, sharing of history, especially when hurt or misunderstanding arise. A forum environment simply does. Not. Have. Those. Tools. Similar blow ups occur when members not understanding the forum paradigm, demand intimacy, and sharing as it occurs in real life, based on a phantom intimacy and trust that does not exist. It is my personal observation, development of relationships in a forum environment demands we are consistent in attitude, respectful, aware of forum limitations in communication... And. They. Develop. Slowly. Over. Time. And you need to use Skype as well...
Okay, Natalia. That was uncool starting a thread bullying those who tried apparently, to help you. Instead try being bluntly honest along the lines of "I'm getting uncomfortable in how we relate. It is too much for my feelings. And I get sad and mad, when you praise others, and never me, it breaks me inside. I really don't want the focus on my problems anymore."
In other words, you tell them, you don't want to hear it, back off.
Not seethe silently for months, and drag the kitchen sink in when you blow. Yes, family programming is a bitch sometimes.
Okay Natalia, when a mod (of several years standing so she/we have been through this before so she/we know the havoc that ensues) tells you the forum is not a dating service, and again, your behavior is uncool. This does not address what really cannot be addressed in a forum environment, it only addresses your forum behavior transgressing a forum environment.
What is so clear to me, what is so clear to those developmentally delayed like you, we are not really addressing the issue that created this brouhaha are we? You say it is bullying, the crones (the brave crones I should add) (doing this kind of stuff sucks) say your inappropriate use of the forum is bogging the flow. They tried to show you what was the issue, they really did.
Mod hat off:
Getting in the brouhaha just this once, my personal take on why the crones treaded where they did: Your pain is so exposed, your coping mechanisms are painful to watch, the damage you are causing yourself is heartbreaking.
The doors that could await your exploration, if you worked on your self, if you learned to trust yourself, if you learned to love yourself, which requires you change those things that cause pain, and begin to understand the world as it is, people as they are.
To SEE in such a way the world makes sense. If the world makes sense, you know what to do to get what you want, and know what kind of an environment is the best to get what you want. A. Forum. Environment. Is. Not. It.
This is not judgement, this is advice that crones desire to give to you, despite the forum environment, Because. It. Hurts. To. Watch. You.
Okay, Natalia, have at it dearheart, whether it be bondage, a group orgy, a safe sex exploration environment like a weekend seminar, a bar pick up, a survivors group, drop some acorns, lord I don't care I just wish you'd break the logjam, and tell the voices inside you to shut the frack up, time is wasting, and you have to catch up if you want kids, I have no idea. But you know best what you need next to make progress. No one else. But not on the forum please.
Be silent to all in what you do, forever, unless it is a fellow survivor, because the reality is, in the real world, they will not get it. They won't and it is unrealistic to expect that they will. The men will take advantage, the women will judge, and you IMHO, need to race through a series of short term relationships to find out what you like or don't like. As in be immediately ruthless when you hit a go/no go attribute, and move on. This is how you find out what your go/no goes are. Be willing to use the microscope and ask questions of yourself through observation. Do I like how he tips, do I like how he treats animals, how does he treat his mother, can you see how he treats you the same way, is he missing a greater awareness of the world, is he STO? Once I realized sex is not the be all and end all of a relationship, only then did my priority switch to character.
Yes, there are lucky people in the world that get much of this education at home in a safe environment (See Flash and Mini) including a space to navigate the sexual journey at the appropriate time. You, via bullying and a dangerous father, got really screwed up messages about men, and me via developmental delay, got no messages.
Bad maps and uncharted territory are a bitch.
You might be in a rage at me now Natalia, I talk of things you sought to hide behind an innocence, a modesty, demure words, fairy costumes, but you don't when not on the public side of the forum. Nothing is private on a forum, please don't kid yourself. But honey, the lack of integration, the fear, the contortions to be both personas, unable to love yourself, unable to accept what you are is just fine, due to that asswipe piece of **** father of yours, is so painful to watch.
I went through Riechian therapy to get feedback on social skills, balance the damage caused by my father, also a brutal asswipe son of a bitch victim of Milab evil.
All of this is just my .02, the sense I made of my experience. I see parallels. I just want you to hear, no one is judging you, except yourself. No one is bullying you, except yourself. You mirror your father. I want you to get to where you can blow people off, efficiently, politely, respectfully, and with honesty, because that is your right, because HE never let you, and now you don't know how. That is dangerous.
Been there, done that. Glad forums were not around when I did or I would have made an ass of myself too I have no doubt.
Here Endeth Polonius... And I am sure everyone is glad. :)
Mod hat on.
Love, Sierra
P.S. Ulli, I know you spoke to Natalia out of love. So did you Marianne. It is tough to balance between what people need to hear, what people can hear, and what one has the guts to say. Kudos to you, Flash, and Marianne as well. I squash you all with respect and intense love.
Forgive me, I love you, thank you, I hope my slightly insane words expressed what is in my heart.
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 02:07
My suggestion would be to remove the post exchanges between Ulli and Nat. That is if Ulli's okay with it.
ThePythonicCow
13th April 2015, 02:11
My suggestion would be to remove the post exchanges between Ulli and Nat. That is if Ulli's okay with it.
I'm willing to assist in that, if it be Ulli's preference.
Flash
13th April 2015, 02:25
Incredibly truthful and up to the point post Sierra.
You also really get the gist of the difficulties Mini Flash and I encountered throughout life. Your analysis is impeccable. And yes, socialisation was my main target for Mini Flash, because I knew that without excellent verbal skills this would remain her nightmare. So we would sit in parks for hours, and would look at people and I would ask her to tell me in her simple words what she saw in their faces, their body language and how she interpreted it, and I would correct. I thought this would give her an advantage for communication that normal people do not have.
And I would insist on eye contact, which she lacked, when she spoke.
Little did I know that she would end up speaking well enough and would use these non verbal skills over and above to become proficient in communication. Although she says she still misses much of the talks when in group environments.
I must however also say that Mini Flash had an as s ho le as a dad, someone who could never ever get a little girl have a feeling of being a worthwhile woman. She has to deal with that.
As for me, I am still dating men whom do not worth my attention because they are somehow quite unbalanced. So still Learning, but I have learned to say no and get away from them sooner now.
When the start in life is wrong, correcting it is very difficult and taking all the help that is given is a must.
Mini Flash is taking my help and the help offered around her. And as far as I am concerned, I actively seek help and thank and bow to those who can advise me in a loving and intelligent manner, for her an for me. This is what the universe is sending me to go through difficulties, with men and other stuff, and I bow to the universe and those representing it that are helping.
spiritwind
13th April 2015, 02:39
I'm suggesting that we never lose sight of our deep and abiding love and compassion for one another. It's our foundation, our glue, our nucleus. Don't ever forget. :~)
I second that.
Someone was posting earlier about how certain other people were so much better than her in this and that way. Compliments are nice to give sometimes but I hope everyone here remembers that no one is truly better than anyone else.
We all have our own blessings and challenges and everyone is here to learn something. No one is better than anyone else. I just posted this in some other thread too, but none of you are better than me, I'm not better than any of you, and none of you are better than each other. And I hope you all love yourselves too because you can't really love anybody else if you aren't able to really love yourself first. Then we can treat each other with more respect.
As equals. :)
S'funny. Years ago, I was having a conversation with Carmen (or she responded to what I was saying) on the H&N thread, and I said something along the lines of "I love myself". Then I noticed what I had said. Chills running down my back and a heaving release in my heart, I staggered off and thought about what I had just said. It was true, and I have never lost the love for myself since.
It made/makes a HUGE difference in my life. I feel integrated. My thoughts and words align much more, and I can even use the awareness when they don't, signaling I need to stop, and examine the dichotomy inside me. I feel much less judgmental towards myself, and as like with love, the acceptance and tolerance, comes off myself to others. I can see this, and it pleases me so much. Life is much easier. It flows better.
It takes courage to speak the truth, especially so on a forum, where the data splits almost instantly into a hundred paths of focus, sympathy, and priority, among the members. The source, truth, origin of a brouhaha is often lost, and speaking as a moderator, much time, conversation, sharing of understanding of members, and effort is expended to arrive at an accurate and fair conclusion that we KNOW some members are going to disagree with. Comes with the territory.
I know this is true for members as well, if they are willing to listen to all sides of a story, over time.
Natalia got mad at Ulli, and expressed jealousy that she was not treated as well as Carmody, she was bullied, and why didn't she have a similar relationship? The assumption of bullying was based on inner history, not outer events. There was a misunderstanding.
A key issue in this communication was a history of bullying, and victim hood, causing developmental delay in social expression, a missing understanding of social conventions that allow communication to take place with less stress and friction.
As a profoundly deaf person, I suffered a similar social defect. Since I did not peak in my lip reading skills until I was forty-five, the social problem was compounded by my mind having to constantly cycle through alternatives to words I missed, that fit with the context, before I could respond verbally, highly stressful, lots of failure, lots of misunderstanding. I screwed up constantly in a group environment, would break out into a sweat at the phone ringing. I had a lot of judgement on myself.
I joined a deaf/Deaf bulletin board when AOL started. I found out I was actually doing a damn fine job as a deafie in a hearing environment. I started to learn all the ways a hearing environment messed up a deafie (nothing personal), and I learned tools, to handle chronic issues that had plagued me. I had to be up front, and honest. Communicate what wasn't working, and a solution. I had to teach too. 70% of English is invisible inside the mouth, and what one can lip read can be tricky too, and relies on context i.e. M, B, P as in man, ban, pan look the same, and those are very easy quick cycles to context and comprehension. I would give people a 100 word paragraph, tell them to cross out 25 words, and see the deviation in meaning. Welcome to what used to be my world.
Now I am blunt, and immediate in conversation, what I missed, what I need to make conversation work. Simple things in most cases, sunlight must be on your face not my face so I can see your mouth, a quiet restaurant, indoors sometimes, TV muted, I must invade your personal physical space to hear you, would you please trim your mustache while we work together on this project, dude, unlock your jaw, wildly wave my arms and get in someone's face until they back up and repeat what I missed. If I am in an intimate group environment, and I trust everyone, and it is the kind of conversation where each person speaks without feedback, I will even get up and sit down next to each person, since a one on one closeness, works best. All the teaching I did, I learned mostly from Deafies on AOL go figure, not deafies. A lot of tears shed, a lot of leaping joy, a lot of hard won satisfaction at the changes made.
The above may look like a digression but it is not. I attempt to show, truth comes from those who have been there, done that, know what works better, what provides growth, via a more understandable world, a way to navigate the social expectations AND the social reality.
In comes Flash, Ulli, and Marianne. I will use Flash as an example. (I love you Flash.)
I see Flash as someone who attained her crone wisdom through raising and loving a developmentally delayed person like me and Natalie. So she speaks with bluntness and honesty, driven, absolutely driven by time, under the gun of time, can I get the love of my life, educated, socialized, and independent before I die? Will she survive, with a realistic understanding of human nature, a realistic understanding of her limitations, a realistic understanding of what she needs to work on next, a realistic understanding of how to be happy in life, and what it takes, and most of all will she love herself?
What I personally consider Flash's and Mini's greatest accomplishment, is successful socialization, and socialization despite bullying. I know I cannot share what a big fracking deal this is, anyone rowing the same boat of delayed development, knows I tell the truth. Flash and Mini, are awesome.
Note this: Both bullying, and lack of social skills are triggers for Flash re Natalia's history. Combined with time driven learned bluntness, guess what.
It blew up, because of a complete lack of 3D relationship over time, building trust, correcting ways of communication on the fly, sharing of history, especially when hurt or misunderstanding arise. A forum environment simply does. Not. Have. Those. Tools. Similar blow ups occur when members not understanding the forum paradigm, demand intimacy, and sharing as it occurs in real life, based on a phantom intimacy and trust that does not exist. It is my personal observation, development of relationships in a forum environment demands we are consistent in attitude, respectful, aware of forum limitations in communication... And. They. Develop. Slowly. Over. Time. And you need to use Skype as well...
Okay, Natalia. That was uncool starting a thread bullying those who tried apparently, to help you. Instead try being bluntly honest along the lines of "I'm getting uncomfortable in how we relate. It is too much for my feelings. And I get sad and mad, when you praise others, and never me, it breaks me inside. I really don't want the focus on my problems anymore."
In other words, you tell them, you don't want to hear it, back off.
Not seethe silently for months, and drag the kitchen sink in when you blow. Yes, family programming is a bitch sometimes.
Okay Natalia, when a mod (of several years standing so she/we have been through this before so she/we know the havoc that ensues) tells you the forum is not a dating service, and again, your behavior is uncool. This does not address what really cannot be addressed in a forum environment, it only addresses your forum behavior transgressing a forum environment.
What is so clear to me, what is so clear to those developmentally delayed like you, we are not really addressing the issue that created this brouhaha are we? You say it is bullying, the crones (the brave crones I should add) (doing this kind of stuff sucks) say your inappropriate use of the forum is bogging the flow. They tried to show you what was the issue, they really did.
Mod hat off:
Getting in the brouhaha just this once, my personal take on why the crones treaded where they did: Your pain is so exposed, your coping mechanisms are painful to watch, the damage you are causing yourself is heartbreaking.
The doors that could await your exploration, if you worked on your self, if you learned to trust yourself, if you learned to love yourself, which requires you change those things that cause pain, and begin to understand the world as it is, people as they are.
To SEE in such a way the world makes sense. If the world makes sense, you know what to do to get what you want, and know what kind of an environment is the best to get what you want. A. Forum. Environment. Is. Not. It.
This is not judgement, this is advice that crones desire to give to you, despite the forum environment, Because. It. Hurts. To. Watch. You.
Okay, Natalia, have at it dearheart, whether it be bondage, a group orgy, a safe sex exploration environment like a weekend seminar, a bar pick up, a survivors group, drop some acorns, lord I don't care I just wish you'd break the logjam, and tell the voices inside you to shut the frack up, time is wasting, and you have to catch up if you want kids, I have no idea. But you know best what you need next to make progress. No one else. But not on the forum please.
Be silent to all in what you do, forever, unless it is a fellow survivor, because the reality is, in the real world, they will not get it. They won't and it is unrealistic to expect that they will. The men will take advantage, the women will judge, and you IMHO, need to race through a series of short term relationships to find out what you like or don't like. As in be immediately ruthless when you hit a go/no go attribute, and move on. This is how you find out what your go/no goes are. Be willing to use the microscope and ask questions of yourself through observation. Do I like how he tips, do I like how he treats animals, how does he treat his mother, can you see how he treats you the same way, is he missing a greater awareness of the world, is he STO? Once I realized sex is not the be all and end all of a relationship, only then did my priority switch to character.
Yes, there are lucky people in the world that get much of this education at home in a safe environment (See Flash and Mini) including a space to navigate the sexual journey at the appropriate time. You, via bullying and a dangerous father, got really screwed up messages about men, and me via developmental delay, got no messages.
Bad maps and uncharted territory are a bitch.
You might be in a rage at me now Natalia, I talk of things you sought to hide behind an innocence, a modesty, demure words, fairy costumes, but you don't when not on the public side of the forum. Nothing is private on a forum, please don't kid yourself. But honey, the lack of integration, the fear, the contortions to be both personas, unable to love yourself, unable to accept what you are is just fine, due to that asswipe piece of **** father of yours, is so painful to watch.
I went through Riechian therapy to get feedback on social skills, balance the damage caused by my father, also a brutal asswipe son of a bitch victim of Milab evil.
All of this is just my .02, the sense I made of my experience. I see parallels. I just want you to hear, no one is judging you, except yourself. No one is bullying you, except yourself. You mirror your father. I want you to get to where you can blow people off, efficiently, politely, respectfully, and with honesty, because that is your right, because HE never let you, and now you don't know how. That is dangerous.
Been there, done that. Glad forums were not around when I did or I would have made an ass of myself too I have no doubt.
Here Endeth Polonius... And I am sure everyone is glad. :)
Mod hat on.
Love, Sierra
P.S. Ulli, I know you spoke to Natalia out of love. So did you Marianne. It is tough to balance between what people need to hear, what people can hear, and what one has the guts to say. Kudos to you, Flash, and Marianne as well. I squash you all with respect and intense love.
Forgive me, I love you, thank you, I hope my slightly insane words expressed what is in my heart.
I haven't posted anything in quite some time, but this post has been quite meaningful to me Sierra. I don't know what happened here with all the parties involved, but your post was outstanding. I have been in shoes belonging to both sides of the equation. I do know that my early life created some emotional problems for me that sound remarkably like what you describe above Sierra, and I used to be so painfully uncomfortable in my own body. I didn't know how to relate to people normally, whatever that is. So even though I have been on Avalon for over 3 years it has been only recently that I have reached out to get to know a few people a little more personally.
And I used to try to get approval from my relationships to make up for the approval I didn't get as a child, and it made people very uncomfortable. I really did have to learn to re-parent myself and I totally agree that an Internet forum is an unlikely place to get your self esteem from. But I can totally relate to being judged as far too emotional for people to handle.
On the other hand I have been on Avalon long enough to know that there is some very real caring here. I still sometimes don't feel totally comfortable in this environment, but I also know some of this is a personal problem that I am working on. But Ulli, specifically to you, from my heart to yours, you are the ultimate mother figure. Fierce, loyal, protective. I have never said this to you, but you have been the juice to keep this environment the way it is here on this thread. I feel your caring every time I come here (and others too). And you do give so much of yourself. It is noticed and appreciated. Like my husband often says to me when I feel like "why do I even bother", "if you help even just one person in life it has been worth it" knowing that I have helped many in ways I don't even realize. And you do this too. I truly hope you allow the feeling of love and gratitude that is there for you in this moment. Thank you.
Dennis Leahy
13th April 2015, 02:50
My suggestion would be to remove the post exchanges between Ulli and Nat. That is if Ulli's okay with it.
I'm willing to assist in that, if it be Ulli's preference.
I think it is a good idea, as it has already been seen by those who are paying attention, and it's kinda like leaving a chalk outline and blood stain on the sidewalk.
... I want to say my farewells, at least as a writer.
I might still send the odd picture. ...
OK, let's do this wordlessly until you feel like writing again. If you want the posts purged, post something purple. A purple flower, or Hendrix playing Purple Haze, or an amethyst geode...
Looking forward to more photos of your little slice of heaven, and hey, thanks for helping to light a fire under my ass - I am building some guitars. :~)
Love ya,
Dennis
ulli
13th April 2015, 02:53
My suggestion would be to remove the post exchanges between Ulli and Nat. That is if Ulli's okay with it.
I'm willing to assist in that, if it be Ulli's preference.
I would like to keep everything the way it is. I'm not in any way embarrassed of what I said.
If Natalia wants her posts removed, that is another matter.
What I said needed to be said, and maybe I didn't say enough, out of respect for her,
and not to embarrass her in public.
But whoever reads these posts here might learn something about what happens when personal issues are projected outward, at innocent bystanders.
This has happened to Bill more times than I can remember, when male Avalonians lashed out at him, simply because he had the power to terminate their membership and so their hatred of authority was taken to the wrong address.
So if we want people to learn to take responsibility for the injustices they perpetrate, always putting their own feelings first, never considering that others, too, might have feelings, and might be vulnerable, we need to keep a record of all sides of the arguments.
Because with their false assumptions, with their imaginations going wild, accusing innocent people of not living up to their expectations, and constantly attacking those who might be genuine way showers of condescension they are not doing themselves any favours.
I do not have to live up to anyone's expectation, no one should have to, life is hard for all of us, and I dont know anyone whoa wasnt bullied at some time in their lives, I was, and so were my husband and my son...but we dont go around like suction cups looking for sympathy every step of the way.
And so I want to keep this statement right here, for the record.
And if Avalon becomes any more of an old boy's club, where fluffy bunnies are allowed to attack older women who wish to share some practical info, such as encourage women's mental development, via education, while discourage the over-glorification of the female body, then this old boy's club will soon be no different from other male-only secret societies.
And the dynamic which can only function effectively when an equal number of men and women can discuss the matters of the needs of the age we all live in, will never get to spark.
Flash
13th April 2015, 02:55
Not all have come forward yet Dennis, and mostly few men have come forward. Lets them take their.... and dare posting before getting any post out. My point of view.
Men need to support women on this thread and on this forum, we are few remaining.
Omni
13th April 2015, 02:57
I don't think what I saw was a "temper tantrum" from Natalie. Maybe she shouldn't have posted the photos, but it seems to me both sides said some relatively offensive things to each other... I'm not sure how someone can speak to someone basically saying they are immature and like a 4 year old and be considered taking the high road.... Seems posting a sexy photo annoyed ulli to a large degree, she said some offensive things and it began from that? Ulli basically said it took a lot of self restraint to not trash Natalie for posting a 'sexy' photo, so obviously her post was a bit pointed. It always happens when girls post their pictures, at least I have seen it pretty often on social media.... Funny how guys pretty much never have a problem with such photos.
If the photo was wrong , why not report it and have it removed instead of engage in negative comment? That would have prevented this whole thing. I don't think this whole event is to be blamed on natalia solely. It takes two to tango. I see ulli did say some offensive things. I will never understand why some women get mad when other women post sexy photos......
I didn't read all the posts but it seems to me Natalie is getting a bum rap here. If someone was talking to ulli in the same way ulli spoke to natalie I think there would be a lot of posters defending her. I know I wouldn't like to be spoken to like that. I might have missed some of the interaction but it seems the source of ullis venom was a photo.... The source of natalie's reaction was feeling disrespected and talked down to. I don't see why she is so wrong to stand up for herself when she feels bullied. If it was wrong to post the photo that is another thing entirely.
Flash
13th April 2015, 03:03
I don't think what I saw was a "temper tantrum" from Natalie. Maybe she shouldn't have posted the photos, but it seems to me both sides said some relatively offensive things to each other... I'm not sure how someone can speak to someone basically saying they are immature and like a 4 year old and be considered taking the high road.... Seems posting a sexy photo annoyed ulli to a large degree, she said some offensive things and it began from that? Ulli basically said it took a lot of self restraint to not trash Natalie for posting a 'sexy' photo, so obviously her post was a bit pointed. It always happens when girls post their pictures, at least I have seen it pretty often on social media.... Funny how guys pretty much never have a problem with such photos.
If the photo was wrong , why not report it and have it removed instead of engage in negative comment? That would have prevented this whole thing. I don't think this whole event is to be blamed on natalia solely. It takes two to tango. I see ulli did say some offensive things. I will never understand why some women get mad when other women post sexy photos......
I didn't read all the posts but it seems to me Natalie is getting a bum rap here. If someone was talking to ulli in the same way ulli spoke to natalie I think there would be a lot of posters defending her. I know I wouldn't like to be spoken to like that. I might have missed some of the interaction but it seems the source of ullis venom was a photo.... The source of natalie's reaction was feeling disrespected and talked down to. I don't see why she is so wrong to stand up for herself when she feels bullied. If it was wrong to post the photo that is another thing entirely.
Wrong, you are not aware of the out of threads interventions and comments and poor me stuff. It is Ulli who got the rap here. The source of Ulli's venom was Natalia temper tantrum - and spitting words - because Ulli paid attention to Carmody. If you want more than that for a 4 years old, tell me where and when!
I hope nobody will verbally abuse out of jalousy me when I write on your thread, appreciate your posts or Skype with you Omni.
ThePythonicCow
13th April 2015, 03:09
I didn't read all the posts but it seems to me Natalie is getting a bum rap here. If someone was talking to ulli in the same way ulli spoke to natalie I think there would be a lot of posters defending her.
I disagree, on multiple counts, Omniverse.
My ability to articulate my disagreements is hindered by my own limitations ... so I won't say much.
However, I am grateful for and appreciative of the work that Ulli, RunningDeer, Flash, Sierra, Marianne, Dennis and others have put into this affair, and I value their long standing and powerful contributions to the well being of humanity and this small piece of humanity on this forum.
In my view, Ulli didn't start this particular fracas ... Natalie started it, and persisted, past much well stated, well intended, well deserved, and carefully modulated, advice and interventions.
Omni
13th April 2015, 03:18
I don't know the full history and haven't seen all the posts, just didn't seem right the insults being thrown her way.
Calz
13th April 2015, 03:19
With the issues going on in my own personal life ... I am not a good candidate to even help carry a thread (... much less be in a position to offer advice).
I will say this however ...
ulli knows she is loved and appreciated by so very many that have traveled to the village whether on a regular basis or the occasional visit.
I remember when she first started the thread.
How she has been able to continue on such a regular basis over such a stretch of time has long amazed me.
Most everyone needs forum downtime. Some more than others.
Me thinks she could use our understanding to have some space for a very well deserved break.
imho
Cal
ThePythonicCow
13th April 2015, 03:29
I don't know the full history and haven't seen all the posts, just didn't seem right the insults being thrown her way.
Ah - like the usual reaction of referee's in a sports match - not seeing how it began - blowing the whistle or throwing down the flag for what they did see :).
There is some history here, Omniverse.
There is also a far longer and solid history of the intentions, insights, and nurturing of several members here. If you find yourself doubting their words and deeds, knowing that you don't know the full history, for the claims of someone who is recent and more tenuous in their grasp of what's important ... then I'd suggest you hesitate before blowing the whistle or throwing the flag.
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 03:39
One post that comes to mind where Ulli showed grace and compassion for Natalie was an astrology reading she gave her on another thread. It was obvious Ulli chose her words and tempo for Natalie to receive some thought provoking analysis in a non-threatening environment. A real opportunity for growth.
I can’t recall Natalie’s exact response, but it was more in line with defensive rather than reflective and appreciative that Ulli took the time to reach out to her.
That would be the feedback I’d share with Natalie. Don’t be so quick to come back with an answer. Because if you reread at least one third to one half of your posts, you’d notice a pattern. Which is your thoughts and opinions in one sentence get canceled out in the next one.
If and when that pattern arose in me, I’d say perhaps I’m at battle within myself. Time to hava-look-see, Paula.
With heart,
RunningDeer <3
Dennis Leahy
13th April 2015, 03:40
...
I didn't read all the posts ...You not only have to read all the posts, you have to read between the lines, and you have to stop and figure out what the intent was. Natalia herself agreed it was inappropriate to post the pics at Avalon. If you want perspective, recognize that Ulli was acting as a big sister. Natalia started saying she wanted to embrace her sexuality, then showed pics of the nighties she planned to buy, then posted pics of herself in the nighties, then posted her contact information... it wasn't OK, not at Avalon (and as I said, when confronted with that reality that THIS venue was not the place, Natalia agreed.)
So, what would you have thought of the mature women on the forum if none had stepped forward to act in a big sister role and try to help Natalia reel it in? Ulli did step in, and it took courage and love and integrity to do that. Ulli hasn't just been the starter and shepherd of this ginormous thread, she has observed and given her love and compassion to all who take the time to pass through or become part of this thread over the course of 3-1/2 years, 2.5 million views, and 44 thousand replies. I'll bet Ulli has not only read Natalia's recent posts, I'll bet she has read every one of her posts in this thread at least. Please give Ulli some credit that she DOES grasp the bigger picture.
Julian
13th April 2015, 03:40
My Goodness, I haven't followed any of this until tonight but let me add my heart felt appreciation for the strength of the women on this forum.
Ulli what absolutely incredible pictures including that up end and play sequence with the German Shepard. The flip you did was amazing and the pure love your dog shows is a lesson to all of us. And yes where ever that is you live in a visual paradise. Wonderful how you bring us into that land.
Flash, many thanks for your directness. Yes there are men here who very much appreciate that.
And Sierra! That was a powerful, wonderful bit of writing. You've taken us on a long walk through years of train wrecks investigated with the hard nosed precision of a keen and inquiring heart.
in truth the caliber of stewardship on this forum is outstanding. Know that you are all very appreciated and all the more for the gift of your love undiluted with codependency or falseness.
Ghasso
Julian
gripreaper
13th April 2015, 03:44
Not all have come forward yet Dennis, and mostly few men have come forward. Lets them take their.... and dare posting before getting any post out. My point of view.
Men need to support women on this thread and on this forum, we are few remaining.
Relax Flash, a post in this thread at this time from the men should not be in haste...
1inMany
13th April 2015, 04:18
I try so hard to remain neutral. But ulli, you are my friend. And I do not want you to feel unsupported. Not that you should at this point, the support is obviously here for you. Look. The pictures were inappropriate for this forum. I cannot say I was surprised at your restraint, but I can say I was impressed with it. Though there isn't much that goes on in the village that I don't see, there is likely a lot of behind the scenes interaction I am not privy to. And you all know I prefer the village paths to the big wide forum world. So that is one reason I try to stay out of things. I don't comment one way or the other if I suspect there are pm's flying around and mods are handling things, etc., etc. But...I see why the words that were left here hurt you, and I am sorry they did. They were uncalled for. If you need to take a breath, holy **** I understand why. If you do, take my love with you and breathe for a moment. But please do not stay gone long. I always miss you when you have to be gone for awhile. You are kind of the jam to my peanut butter, being the Capricorn to my Cancer and all.
Geez, Sierra. You have just reminded me in a big way why I was missing you. I know you have an office in the penthouse now, but don't forget the Village bonfire- always incomplete because your butt isn't right here next to mine.
And Marianne...and Flash...And Pauler...(there are more, I just mean in the past day or so...and I have something specific on my mind though I love every one of you and everything you share...) May I please just say that it is really absolutely fantastic to have the unique wisdom that every one of you have amassed and share.
And for anyone else who stops by, but who does not understand where I am coming from, or who might think this is some unbalanced fan club or clique or club of some kind, or who thinks they are treated unfairly by anyone in this particular village, I encourage you to examine what you offer to the village, what you leave here when you step away. The Village is magic because of what we all put into it.
Much Love,
gripreaper
13th April 2015, 04:42
Context. First off let’s be mindful that as souls having a human experience on planet earth, we are emerging from thousands of years of male patriarch and beginning to embrace the divine feminine back into balance and moving toward unity consciousness. Also, let us be mindful that internet forums are fraught with all manner of discourse with all manner of people from all social strata and all different levels of writing skills. Let us also be mindful that forums do not have the benefit of eye contact, body language or the other nuances one would use in face to face discourse.
Having said that, let’s bring this down to earth, and the best way for me to do this is to tell a bit of my story. I was born into a large family of German catholic immigrants right after World War 2, and my mother was overwhelmed with too many kids. She left me lying in the crib, never held me, never touched me, and it wasn’t until my father finally hired a nanny after two more of my sisters came along, before anyone had sat me down in a high chair and talked to me while being fed. I did not even know how to walk until I was two.
Then later, when I was 8 years old my father died and left my mother with 9 kids ages 13 to 3 months, to which she went into a nervous breakdown and we were basically neglected. Her solution was to commission my two oldest sisters as surrogate mothers for my two little brothers, and the rest of us she sent off to boarding school. I was 8 years old.
Boarding school is just like adult prison, and the adults who are supposed to protect you are basically predators. Your peers are acting out all over the place and externalizing everything, and anyone who shows even the slightest weakness becomes cannon fodder for abuse. I learned very quickly how to read others and how to respond without getting my ass kicked or raped. It was a crash course.
When I turned 18 and left boarding school I had no core to ground to, no emotional boundary, no relationship skills, and no social skills in the real world. I only tell this part of my story because what I did have was an overly acute radar when it comes to survival, yet from a purely left brain masculine cognitive reference point, and nothing else. You could say I was borderline psychopath and as needy as anyone you could possibly run into. I was a total mess, and I repelled people just by being in a room.
I spent ten years in Primal therapy and spent thousands upon thousands of dollars listening to every story possible, and some of them would make your hair stand on end, and often made my story pale in comparison. The inhumanity to mankind that mankind himself inflicts upon his own progeny is staggering in its scope and implications, yet after awhile all the stories start to sound the same.
At some point in group therapy, after you’ve just spent another 120 bucks listening to someone tell their story for the hundredth time, the group will jump on the person and try and get them to go into the hurt and have the catharsis and begin to heal. We applied tons of grace over the years, and wept deeply listening to the stories. It truly is heartbreaking. It opened up my emotional body and gave me empathy and I was able to ground and develop some emotional boundary of my own.
Now, just look at Natalie’s picture, don’t you see the pain in her face? She was reaching out, albeit without all the convection or social skills one might expect on a public forum, and how the ladies responded was not overt and out of line. So, there was a little mudslinging. Welcome to public forums.
I hurt for Natalie. Her life is passing by and she has missed out on a lot and the desperation should be met with lots of grace and compassion. Sierra is right, you gotta go to the dance girl, and you gotta dance. Dance like there is no tomorrow and dance like nobody’s watching. I am living proof that it is never too late. I’m not worried about Ulli, she’ll be fine.
Suffice it to say, the energies are raging and all of us have to face our demons and come forward with our authentic selves. Just look at the raging mudslinging that is occurring in regards to Avalon and its founder right now. They say Avalon is burning, the women are leaving and Bill is(_____________) you fill in the blanks because it is blank. We've been through this before and survived. Transitioning out of the patriarch is hard for the men too.
The transition to unity is going to be messy and is likely to get even messier, with counterintelpro, microwave entrainment, and all the other influences we are facing in the online venue. Our discernment filters need to be on high alert. I don’t mind a good argument, even if it gets a bit out of hand. Sometimes we need to raise our voices a bit to get to the point. We need to apply grace there too. Lots of grace is needed right now.
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 05:12
Having said that, let’s bring this down to earth, and the best way for me to do this is to tell a bit of my story. I was born into a large family of German catholic immigrants right after World War 2, and my mother was overwhelmed with too many kids. She left me lying in the crib, never held me, never touched me, and it wasn’t until my father finally hired a nanny after two more of my sisters came along, before anyone had sat me down in a high chair and talked to me while being fed. I did not even know how to walk until I was two.
Dear GripReaper-Ted,
How is it possible? I love you more in this moment than I did before. I’ve alway felt a deep spirit in you. Now I know why. Thank you for hanging around on Mother Earth.
Love from a Sister,
Paula
araucaria
13th April 2015, 09:04
Being in the same time zone, I have responded to a few of Natalia’s posts over her time here, but I doubt if it had much relevance for her. She is now on sabbatical, after announcing a break a week ago. I think if one decides to make a break, better to act on that decision immediately without this limbo period when anything can happen.
Natalia has been looking within, a very difficult and laudable exercise but possibly, when one is not in any relationship, the greater need is to look without. Speaking in general terms, single people tend to get very wrapped up in themselves, and even the desire to look without (e.g. find a partner) can be thwarted by a self-centred approach. I think a sabbatical makes a lot more sense than hanging around on the web, especially among a bunch of old fogies, who can only give her what they’ve got and is clearly not what she needs.
Calz
13th April 2015, 09:53
More sad news as it appears Marianne has left us ...
Thanks for everything and best of luck.
You will always be "June Bug" to me.
This has been a most unusual day. This music feels just right here and now, and so thought I'd share.
For all those I dearly love and dearly like, in the village and all over the world.
'A River Flows In You' Yiruma
rhN7SG-H-3k
Sierra
13th April 2015, 10:24
Yes, we lost our June Bug.
I sometimes walk around the house, singing:
June bug
June bug
June bug bug
June bug
June bug
June bug bug
I will have to sing it again to cheer myself up. Right now, frogs in my throat.
Bedtime ...
Love, Sierra
ThePythonicCow
13th April 2015, 11:08
Marianne asked me to post the following, to convey her "goodbye and best wishes":
0U3w_zpiWSE
Violet
13th April 2015, 11:51
Slightly déjà vû-ish feeling here.
Ulli, I wanted to remind you that you created a whole island out of nothing, and a variety of things happened before that. This hurts - words can be as ugly as they can be beautiful - but you can do this.
What happened here has been brewing over a long time (Sorry, Natalia, it's (almost) always lingerie, it's annoying). When it explodes, everyone has an opinion. This will differ. That should be acceptable to all participants. We should also be willing to digest the differing opinion, and - with all freedom to still disagree with it - put it in the bigger picture. I think things can work out then.
Honestly, I'm surprised that the men weren't first to express such feelings of being hurt, as did Natalia, because sometimes I feel they get a few rake klappen as we say in Flemish, :boxing: or straight punches, jokingly or for real, I can't always tell. They say truth hides in the joke, who knows. Or best not fetch too far. Or these men just have good shields (Dealer list, please. Always handy).
We have to be really careful here because this has escalated so fast over a pretty short time-span. The hoover, with all its negative energy, is sucking people in, one by one. Resist.
And also, maintain the standard that we are so proud of. Natalia has explicitly expressed that she feels treated like a child, so in the light of that, using the word tantrums, and going back to anecdotes of your children when they were four is...insulting, and all the more reason to feel bullied, even when not intentionally being bullied.
It is not ok to turn the whole house upside down and then pretend it wasn't such a big thing and we should now just move on, Natalia, but this is a thing that can and should be discussed later on, perhaps in private (maybe and under moderation) between the parties involved.
In the meanwhile can we please, please, please, put our focus to reviving our garden?
http://greensideupblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dog-lawn-burn-brown-urine.jpg
ulli
13th April 2015, 11:55
Marianne, AKA Junebug, your input here was a great source of comfort to me,
and I am so sorry that sticking up for me put you into the line of fire to the point
that Avalon has now lost one of its greatest mods.
But in a way this recent crisis helped both of us to consolidate our friendship further,
and that is worth something.
You will be missed, but we will remain in touch, and perhaps can even meet one day
and talk about our Avalon adventures.
http://f0.bcbits.com/img/a1181397957_10.jpg
Violet
13th April 2015, 11:59
In honor of those who have gone ahead, and in honor of those who still remain.
What the future brings, be it light or dark, or something in between, strength of heart to each of us, here and now.
STqDowSbSTQ
I accidentally landed here, on page 81.
PurpleLama
13th April 2015, 12:34
In honor of those who have gone ahead, and in honor of those who still remain.
What the future brings, be it light or dark, or something in between, strength of heart to each of us, here and now.
STqDowSbSTQ
I accidentally landed here, on page 81.
A close friend of Marianne's, his mother had just died, when I posted that a few years ago, and I was thinking of this post when Paul posted it on her behalf.
I know you're watching JB, love You. And a some for John too, as the olde time has gone by.
Selkie
13th April 2015, 12:47
I just wanted to say that the reason I have not commented on this is because I do not know the history behind it, and I feel that it is none of my business. But I feel sad for everyone involved. It is a sad thing.
Mikelodium
13th April 2015, 12:58
I've missed almost everything about this conflict, just want to send best wishes to the ones leaving and the ones staying.
Returning to the garden topic, a bit off-topic tho since I live in a flat, I've ordered two [put_the_name_here] to grow Shiitake mushrooms at home. I'll post the progress here in the village when they grow :P
http://boredommd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/How-to-Grow-Shiitake-Mushrooms-Cornell-Cooperative-Extension.jpg
Peace.
Bill Ryan
13th April 2015, 12:59
.
http://projectavalon.net/Heart.mp4
(http://projectavalon.net/Heart.mp4)
:heart:
Selkie
13th April 2015, 13:08
I've missed almost everything about this conflict, just want to send best wishes to the ones leaving and the ones staying.
Returning to the garden topic, a bit off-topic tho since I live in a flat, I've ordered two [put_the_name_here] to grow Shiitake mushrooms at home. I'll post the progress here in the village when they grow :P
http://boredommd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/How-to-Grow-Shiitake-Mushrooms-Cornell-Cooperative-Extension.jpg
Peace.
Ooo, they are lovely :) I have always wanted to get a mushroom log or two. When I have a little bit of money again, I think I will order some :)
Limor Wolf
13th April 2015, 13:13
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RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 13:13
Marianne’s love is electric blue
Powerful kindness
It is my wish for everyone to know
in case it’s not apparent
Often it’s subtle
The kind of subtle that’s an explosion of Love
that’s missed by those whom busy themselves
in the ordinary
Unadulterated, complete electric blue
You will be missed, Marianne…
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Marianne_zps9g4ck8sd.jpg
Love,
Paula
1inMany
13th April 2015, 13:50
Aw geez. I'm sad. I am going to miss you so much, Marianne. Such a special, delightful, supportive and loving friend you have been since I wandered in out of the cold.
Much Love. And Health. And Peace. Sniff
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 13:57
Sidelines vs Sides
(a perspective)
The hardest thing to do is to actively be in the state of support from the sidelines.
To take sides stymies the process that has the potential in each moment to birth into growth of spring.
The elements of honesty, kindness, timing and at times tough-love bring forth the fruits of greater depth between each.
Resolution is possible when the souls speak.
One day we’ll all be there.
My prayer is to see it in this lifetime.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
Jean-Marie
13th April 2015, 15:10
Hello village!
I wanted to share what I have been working on. It is no where as near beautiful as Ulli's gardens! :flower: So many of you have shared such beautiful picture of your work. Dennis, I love your guitars! Silkie, your painting of the lioness was so inspiring! :heart:
This is a blanket that I am working on for a friends grandchild that is coming in June! Lots of healing loving intent is being poured into this blanket that I am crocheting.
I will post another update as I finish the blanket and hat and embellish with tiny blue little roses!
Selkie
13th April 2015, 15:16
Hello village!
I wanted to share what I have been working on. It is no where as near beautiful as Ulli's gardens! :flower: So many of you have shared such beautiful picture of your work. Dennis, I love your guitars! Silkie, your painting of the lioness was so inspiring! :heart:
This is a blanket that I am working on for a friends grandchild that is coming in June! Lots of healing loving intent is being poured into this blanket that I am crocheting.
I will post another update as I finish the blanket and hat and embellish with tiny blue little roses!
Wow, Jean-Marie...beautiful!, and really looking forward to seeing the next picture. I so admire knitting and crochet, but I just don't have enough patience for it, lol. I am a weaver, and weaving is a breeze compared to knitting or crochet, at least for me.
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 15:19
beautiful, Jean-Marie.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/blanket_zpsf9g5ivab.jpg
Selkie
13th April 2015, 15:23
I wove this scarf a few years ago
http://i61.tinypic.com/dr2xhv.jpg
I don't have my loom anymore. I sold it to help finance my move to Spain.
Here is another one, also from a few years ago. A big shawl of 100% Peruvian alpaca.
http://i62.tinypic.com/sdk1dt.jpg
p.s. I miss my loom. I want another loom. I am going to save up for another loom if it kills me :)
dan33
13th April 2015, 16:32
Missing you Marianne :heart:
A Voice from the Mountains
13th April 2015, 17:16
How much do you sell those for, Silkie? Just out of curiosity.
ulli
13th April 2015, 17:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-B0_m6fW94
The air here is filled with butterflies of many colors,
meanwhile I am still trying to figure out what happened.
Marianne needs our healing energy. This mod business is not easy at all....
Maybe this ancient movie trailer will help clarify why this turned so sour for all sides.
Hopefully it is not too late.
Carmody
13th April 2015, 18:11
Well, we are in the heart of the sword brandishing thrusting attack fire sign of Aries, right now. Moving to the end time of it soon, but it does tend to wear the earth signs down a bit. Water and air can just move aside and around, but the earth cannot, so it tends to get pounded.
Sierra
13th April 2015, 18:47
Impromptu healing time for those who want to join. :)
<grabbing sage and lighter, trotting down to the Village healing pool Dennis built... Dunking my aching head first, throwing back wet hair, that's better, birds singing, putting Billy and his Mom in first so gently (Billy's mum broke her leg in two places last night)... Hell, throwing the whole Village in... >
Guys... You guys make it so true, what y'all said last night. "In a multitude of counsel, there is wisdom". I cannot thank you enough.
Selkie
13th April 2015, 19:24
How much do you sell those for, Silkie? Just out of curiosity.
The cream and white one was woven of Tencel, a kind of rayon, and I would have tried to get $75.00 for it. The alpaca one I would have tried for $250.00. Not nearly enough for either of them, considering the work involved and the cost of the yarn, plus that I designed them myself.
p.s. There is no money in that kind of work unless the weaver can buy yarn wholesale and weave off several items from one warp, because it is incredibly labor-intensive. Hand knitting and crochet sell around here, but not weaving...at least, not for me. I simply gave my weaving away. If I could have had a business in the house like I wanted, I might have made a go of it, but that was not to be. Oh, well :ohwell:
Sierra
13th April 2015, 19:50
Even the fringe on the alpaca shawl is gorgeous...
Selkie
13th April 2015, 19:55
Even the fringe on the alpaca shawl is gorgeous...
Thank you:) Hand-knotted :)
ulli
13th April 2015, 19:57
Well, we are in the heart of the sword brandishing thrusting attack fire sign of Aries, right now. Moving to the end time of it soon, but it does tend to wear the earth signs down a bit. Water and air can just move aside and around, but the earth cannot, so it tends to get pounded.
Added to that I just had Mars square my Ascendant for the last few days.
Double dose of fiery energy.
Hardly ever get headaches these days, but this time I really got zapped.
Selkie
13th April 2015, 20:02
Well, we are in the heart of the sword brandishing thrusting attack fire sign of Aries, right now. Moving to the end time of it soon, but it does tend to wear the earth signs down a bit. Water and air can just move aside and around, but the earth cannot, so it tends to get pounded.
Added to that I just had Mars square my Ascendant for the last few days.
Double dose of fiery energy.
Hardly ever get headaches these days, but this time I really got zapped.
I went shopping yesterday and everyone at walmart was acting strangely. Stranger than usual, I mean :rolleyes:
arwen
13th April 2015, 20:05
Sending love and Ubuntu to all here, and especially to you, ulli. :heart:
Ubuntu is a philosophy that luminously embraces a community in healing radiance from the heart as interdependent human spirits of sharing. It gives respect, recognition and revelation of giftedness to the human spirit.
I made this short video a while back for another group I am part of, and am sharing it here to luminously embrace everyone in the healing spirit of love. Love to you, beautiful Avalonians!
O8LsIHSTz9I
Mikelodium
13th April 2015, 20:11
Some funny pictures before i go to bed:
http://i.imgur.com/N95JZ6R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CSRvfl8.gif
http://i.imgur.com/qKc1OcX.gif
Golden retriever tasting lemon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_CH5Y5tID8
Peace. :sleep:
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 20:16
On my walk today, a man in sunglasses kept pace with me for about 10 seconds. I watched out of the corner of my eye. Then that awkward moment of do I strike up a conversation? I decided no, I’m in a zone. I’ll keep walking.
For every one step of mine, he took two. Which didn’t match up. I rationalized that he seemed to walk faster and should’ve passed by now. That’s when I caught (saw and sensed) that his vibratory rate was faster.
Something didn’t feel right. Not bad just different. ‘Myself’ said to hook a right on to the pedestrian cross walk. I glanced to see if he followed. He was gone. Nothing but an empty sidewalk on the side of the building.
Guess-ta-mation:
reflective walk+heightened senses+leftover feelings from the village = bleed through the veil
<3
Iloveyou
13th April 2015, 20:49
back to business as usual ?
i4s9wVRIXeU
Are we really happy here/With this lonely game we play/Looking for words to say/Searching but not finding/Understanding anywhere/We're lost in a masquerade
Both afraid to say we're just to far away/From being close together from the start/We tried to talk it over but the words got in the way/We're lost inside this lonely game we play
Thoughts of weeping disappear/Every time I see your eyes/No matter how hard I try
To understand the reasons/That we carry on this way/We're lost in a masquerade
sunshaker
13th April 2015, 20:51
On my walk today, a man in sunglasses kept pace with me for about 10 seconds. I watched out of the corner of my eye. Then that awkward moment of do I strike up a conversation? I decided no, I’m in a zone. I’ll keep walking.
For every one step of mine, he took two. Which didn’t match up. I rationalized that he seemed to walk faster and should’ve passed by now. That’s when I caught (saw and sensed) that his vibratory rate was faster.
Something didn’t feel right. Not bad just different. ‘Myself’ said to hook a right on to the pedestrian cross walk. I glanced to see if he followed. He was gone. Nothing but an empty sidewalk on the side of the building.
Guess-ta-mation:
reflective walk+heightened senses+leftover feelings from the village = bleed through the veil
<3
He knew he could not overtake you before is turn, His brain went into overdrive, his steps became smaller but faster, He was in a hightened state, closer and closer, which will come first contact? his turn? A release of energy the moment had past but the memory remains. another moment weaved into the tapestry of life.
ulli
13th April 2015, 22:13
On my way to the garden to do some weeding. Thought this fellow was watching me....
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/061618bc7f909c256866a774b285bd16_zpsykznxkdm.jpg
Roisin
13th April 2015, 22:51
Here's my mom's backyard (lg goldfish in pond)... she's got her condo up for sale now but what you are seeing here is a BIG step-down from the home she had before. Looking forward to our continuing tea parties there as the market in Ohio is still very depressed.
http://photos3.zillowstatic.com/p_f/ISt8ehz25y11660000000000.jpg
RunningDeer
13th April 2015, 22:57
He knew he could not overtake you before is turn, His brain went into overdrive, his steps became smaller but faster, He was in a hightened state, closer and closer, which will come first contact? his turn? A release of energy the moment had past but the memory remains. another moment weaved into the tapestry of life.
Welcome to Avalon and to the Village, sunshaker.
…another moment weaved into the tapestry of life.
I’m open to those moments weaved into the tapestry of life.
They find me because I find them. My secret recipe is gentle awareness. And I’m always tweaking the recipe.
<3
Playdo of Ataraxas
14th April 2015, 00:52
Like a sunflower with its heliotropic stretch, Love and Light are here for those who would like to bask in it. Always has been. Its a very special community force that pursues a service to others in many various aspects, and that's why I have continued to contribute and choose to participate. Ulli, Capricorn sister, whether this thread is here or not, here and now the connections have already been made by so many and the affects will continue to multiply in aggregate in each of our daily lives making a significant positive impact on a micro and macro scale. It was, it is, it has been done, and will continue to do so. Whether it be childish pettiness, determined petulance, or clever subterfuge that interferes, it really doesn't mean a hill of beans. This community can be the chaotic grain of sand in the pile that determines how the avalanche restructures the pile. I'll say it again, if you seek love, be willing to give it when you are not getting it. Other than that, I'll guess I'll keep on truckin' as is.
Playdo of Ataraxas
14th April 2015, 00:58
This evening I caught some flack from my family. They were eulogizing about our greatest American generation, those involved in the WWII effort, and while i didn't disagree with them, I simply said that I wish our greatest American generation could have been defined by an event that worked towards preserving human life and edifying our ideals as such, and not by a war that took millions of lives. I guess I'm just the idealistic black sheep in my family. So it goes..... as Vonnegut wrote.
ulli
14th April 2015, 00:58
I want to do this in my garden. The only plant I'm still searching for is that bluish fan palm. Not sure if I posted this before....
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/4e7b28561fbfb3e1356ac260950503c2_zps5hlz7ozc.jpg
Playdo of Ataraxas
14th April 2015, 01:04
I want to do this in my garden. The only plant I'm still searching for is that bluish fan palm. Not sure if I posted this before....
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o491/orosivalleyjewelry/4e7b28561fbfb3e1356ac260950503c2_zps5hlz7ozc.jpg
Ha! That's a great synchronicity. For months now I've been seeing the Bismarck palm (Bismarckia nobilis, indigenous to Madagascar, where many cool manners of Flora come from) and wanted to plant one myself. They are expensive, but its on my list to put in the yard. It's color reminds me of the agave plant. Its so huge and beautiful.
PurpleLama
14th April 2015, 01:56
Thanks for the reminder, bro. I should say, my attention never leaves this place. I do love you and ulli, and Natalie and Flash, and all the rest. This whole human interaction thing is tough enough, without attempting it sans visual and energetic and subtle cues. I know it's been a tough row to hoe all around, over the last week hereabouts, and not all participating parties have been observant of the particular perspectives of each other (not speaking to you here, bro, naturally) but I should point out, there's value in appreciating where the other is coming from without taking it on one's self to point out what errors one observes in that other. We are indeed in this game together, and there really is only the one person here. Planetary life is a bitch.
Love to you, ulli and Sierra, Junebug and Flash, and especially Amethyst after today. :blackwidow::girl_wacko::noidea::Cry::heart::kiss:
¤=[Post Update]=¤
That above sequence of smiles says you fight because you're crazy women, and I don't understand but I love you anyway. *smooch*
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That above sequence of smiles says you fight because you're crazy women, and I don't understand but I love you anyway. *smooch*
Roisin
14th April 2015, 02:04
Nice to know that such gorgeous plants exist and thanks to global warming, us folks in Ohio may be able to grow tropical plants in our gardens too ... sometime soon!
PurpleLama
14th April 2015, 02:24
Roisin, I accept you into the village. Its safe here. I can tell you've wanted that personal interaction that is the vibe around here, and I should be the one who extends it to you. You didn't get welcomed properly, when you first went and posted here, so here is your belated welcome. I wish we knew each other better prior to our initial interaction, it didn't go well. It made me feel really good when you acknowledged the pony in the pic you posted, the pointy bit was a different color and it wasn't long ago an old friend had happened by that showed me a pic of a miniature horse that really jumped out at me in your picture that you posted. I was afraid it would be just another misunderstanding like some of our previous engagements. Anyway, the real point is, welcome two years later, here have a cold one and sit with us a while.
Playdo of Ataraxas
14th April 2015, 02:34
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PurpleLama
14th April 2015, 02:43
Swirling with visions of man's confusion
All of the work, done just to appease him
The Argus he cries, though love has it's place in the sun
It's only man's fear that carries him on...
gripreaper
14th April 2015, 04:15
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1ae_ypGRvm0/VSp3dyHAemI/AAAAAAAA2cE/FJvbtC62sfI/s1600/1%2B1ninetymilesgeBLA1ur6451o1_400.gif
Roisin
14th April 2015, 04:32
Holy Smokes! Thanks for the welcome PurpleLama! I know sometimes the stuff I post in this forum is really off the wall so it's nice that Ullie's got this thread for us to show that we're all NORMAL and just like everybody else...:cool2: regardless that we've all had some extraordinary experiences too.
A lot of good people here and there's no where else on the net where one can find the same kind of high caliber of intelligence and stimulating conversations that we have here in this forum. I come here to be intellectually challenged and I can't find that anyplace else. :)
protoflex
14th April 2015, 04:57
I woke this morning in the middle of a strange dream that I remembered. I was in a high rise hotel and there were dragons flying around outside. I was trying to pull the shades down and lock the doors because they were going to get in if they saw us. There were other people there with me, but no one I recognized. I was running and locking doors behind me. Two of them got in. They were small (no bigger than a horse) but I ran through a door and locked them out. At one point I tried to escape via the hallway and when I opened the door I was face to face with a white pale looking dragon. No flames, no fire. I was terrified and slammed and bolted the door.
Anyone good at dream interpretations????
Thank you!
-jean-marie
Very weird dream........
Same problem i have. You're running from chaos and in doing so you end up running from those you love in the process. You have to learn how to face the dragon, face all fears, to protect what you love, and to show your enemies that they will not trample you.
Hello Protoflex!
I have had a couple of Pm's from people regarding your post. My post that you quoted here was a post I made back on August 18, 2014. 8 months ago! LOL!!!
Nora replied to the post that day. And it was exactly what I needed to hear, I wanted to join the healers group, but was worried I might not be good enough! I took a leap and it has been a wonderful experience!
Here was Nora's reply to me.
Good morning Jean-Marie,
I'm no expert on dream interpretation.
You may have some strong gifts spiritually and psychically that need to be actualized here on earth.
I would say your High Spiritual-self is pushing the envelope. What are you afraid of and/or resisting?
(There are some strong potent energies in the aethers right now helping us to move forward.). Cool dream.
Love
Nora
Yes, i was aware it was a rather old post. It caught my eye, and i just felt i should give my take on it, even without reading the following posts to figure out if anyone else responded. I'm glad you got feedback on it tho. I'm very new to this site, and I'm sorta having trouble keeping up with replies. Not to mention trying to catch up with previous discussions. I see there's a lot, but I really like this site. So i'll try my best.
Well, I've found that dreams are a direct reflection of what we're experiencing in our lives sometimes. Other times ppl may lucid dream. To me, life is all about the 'experience'. So if you experience turmoil in life, you may see it in your dreams. People forget about this sometimes, and they just think dreams are random. Not always.
I'm sure the person who responded to you first had a better understanding of dream interpretation. Because it seems fears that represent themselves in dreams aren't necessarily a symbol of hostility, but rather they present themselves as frightening in order to usher your attention because something needs to be corrected in your life asap. So unless you fix it soon, that dogma might grow into a permanent mental burden. Where you may find yourself battling it for a very long time.
Those that have researched dreams, and the way the brain acts during REM sleep have pondered on the possibility that certain dreams could be attempting to correct your mental state without you even realizing it. Since we do a lot of our serious thinking in the subconscious paradigm, we may not be fully aware that we're creating a problem while combating an entirely different one.
skyflower
14th April 2015, 05:45
I picked up a book called The four agreements which is a Toltec wisdom book.
Been practicing 1) Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
2)Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
I am able to do this maybe 10 percent of my day. Maybe even less. Oh but what a difference it makes!
Looks like things have been rough in the village lately.
Wishing love and healing to all.
Thank you for all that you are. You are all amazing!
BPDqALFLjZI
Violet
14th April 2015, 07:13
Morning!
http://static.hdw.eweb4.com/media/wallpapers_1920x1200/photography/1/1/morning-dew-on-the-grass-photography-hd-wallpaper-1920x1200-6979.jpg (http://static.hdw.eweb4.com/media/wallpapers_1920x1200/photography/1/1/morning-dew-on-the-grass-photography-hd-wallpaper-1920x1200-6979.jpg)
Getting ready for logo, almost...Must finish (Brasilian) coffee (this time).
Pass by bike repair shop after that. Can't wait to test my new bike. Saddle and steer must still be adjusted, see if I can do that myself, late afternoonish.
Painting works are done in the hall. We moved all the boxes (with stuff that still hasn't received a fixed place) to the living room prior to that. But now this hall looks so clean with the new paint, I can't just throw all those boxes back in there. That means, I have to think of a good place for them, and most places are already occupied...Hm. Postpone? Yea, good idea.
Nice garden, Roisin!
Syncing Playdo, I was having a talk with my mum yesterday. About the Algerian conflict in the seventies. The president back then, decided that all Moroccans should now leave the country (which tore many families apart). I listened attentively. I also told her that everyone always has evidence against the other party which is supposed to justify an eternal anger, an eternal reason to never trust again. In the whole world you can find this scenario endlessly repeating. Now, how can we solve it?
Iloveyou
14th April 2015, 07:38
The situation was in so far strange as a big part of the conflict unfolded behind the scenes appearently and outsiders have only the public part of the picture. They think about it and get their own ideas wether they like it or not. And if someone shares his impression he is told: you don't have the whole picture.
I'm ready to trust the discernment, genuineness and willingness of the Here&Now women, all the more so I'm convinced that you know: Exclusion is never a real option. We are interconnected so tightly, all we experience or discern is a part of ourselves as individuals or community. Natalia is a part of each individual here, wether she is retired or not. And wether she has done wrong or not. LOVE is indivisible.
Now that I am 56 it was only three months ago that I've learned something: A wise woman knows when to speak and when to be silent. How much tears, disappointment, rejection and misunderstanding could have been avoided if I had known that earlier. For sure I haven't mastered it yet, maybe it will take me 30 more years. At the moment my whole body is shouting: Shut up! My whole body except one tiny part. The part of me who has seen unfolding similiar scenarios too often: A system becomes unstable and vulnerable for what reason ever and the weakest part of it is identified and eliminated as fast as possible. But you know: Life does not work that way. The principle of life is INTEGRATION.
A wise woman only gives advice if she's asked for. We cannot change people. We can just love them, listen to them, give them space to be themselves, to make their own 'mistakes' again and again, until they grow out of it. To interfere only if they are actually about to do damage to themselves or others. What is perceived as damage varies individually as well as culturally. To notice where one's current limits are is a real challenge (speaking to myself).
I'm seeing a circle of powerful women here, who really care and stand in their own right, there's no need to call for men's support. Just don't throw away a part of yourself. I wish regaining strength and joy for everybody who has been hurt. Believe it or not, I LOVE YOU, ULLI and ALL as well as I love NATALIA. I really do.
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http://www.leahdorion.ca/images/featured_art/strawberry%20reconciliation%20moon.jpg
Mikelodium
14th April 2015, 07:53
So much wisdom lately in the village. You are awesome.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b1/b1863ec001f174e2d9a3cc0ad89aad0cbf78ddd297256b891bd8ff4662f3f044.jpg
Snowflower
14th April 2015, 08:54
My head is shaking. Disorientation...weirdness...alternate nonreality? I started reading posts at the top of the page and can't connect any one to any other one. Did something happen to the neighborhood?
PurpleLama
14th April 2015, 12:10
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Here is the bottle bed out front, becoming a blanket of green. We haven't had deer dining in this space for a few months now, hopefully the repellant has finally done the trick and we will get a tomato or two before they do.
jackovesk
14th April 2015, 12:35
Flash, ulli, Marianne,
I see that we have clashed at times and more so lately, but I care about you all, maybe you all care about me to.
Sometimes misunderstandings happen, and clashes, and triggers, as well as boundaries being crossed.
I mean no harm and don't want to hurt anyone, and in all of our hearts and higher self, I am sure that we all don't.
If we are not going to be buddy-buddy we can at least be respectful to one another, and forgive each other.
Peace and love
Why did Natalia retire..? Anyone..?
araucaria
14th April 2015, 12:51
Why did Natalia retire..? Anyone..?
She announced below she was taking a break, and then didn't....
Going to take a month break from PA and Facebook from tomorrow.
will spend more alone time in nature, and in the stillness of the present moment :)
See you later, and take care <3
http://rs10.pbsrc.com/albums/a138/fresia333/Mobile%20Uploads/20150410_124754.jpg~320x480
ulli
14th April 2015, 13:06
The situation was in so far strange as a big part of the conflict unfolded behind the scenes appearently and outsiders have only the public part of the picture. They think about it and get their own ideas wether they like it or not. And if someone shares his impression he is told: you don't have the whole picture.
I'm ready to trust the discernment, genuineness and willingness of the Here&Now women, all the more so I'm convinced that you know: Exclusion is never a real option. We are interconnected so tightly, all we experience or discern is a part of ourselves as individuals or community. Natalia is a part of each individual here, wether she is retired or not. And wether she has done wrong or not. LOVE is indivisible.
Now that I am 56 it was only three months ago that I've learned something: A wise woman knows when to speak and when to be silent. How much tears, disappointment, rejection and misunderstanding could have been avoided if I had known that earlier. For sure I haven't mastered it yet, maybe it will take me 30 more years. At the moment my whole body is shouting: Shut up! My whole body except one tiny part. The part of me who has seen unfolding similiar scenarios too often: A system becomes unstable and vulnerable for what reason ever and the weakest part of it is identified and eliminated as fast as possible. But you know: Life does not work that way. The principle of life is INTEGRATION.
A wise woman only gives advice if she's asked for. We cannot change people. We can just love them, listen to them, give them space to be themselves, to make their own 'mistakes' again and again, until they grow out of it. To interfere only if they are actually about to do damage to themselves or others. What is perceived as damage varies individually as well as culturally. To notice where one's current limits are is a real challenge (speaking to myself).
I'm seeing a circle of powerful women here, who really care and stand in their own right, there's no need to call for men's support. Just don't throw away a part of yourself. I wish regaining strength and joy for everybody who has been hurt. Believe it or not, I LOVE YOU, ULLI and ALL as well as I love NATALIA. I really do.
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http://www.leahdorion.ca/images/featured_art/strawberry%20reconciliation%20moon.jpg
And I love you too. But the issue here is not about a person's worthiness, but behavior patterns.
And this is a moderated forum, after all. No hinting, no explanations, no moderating could get Natalia to show respect to the general forum rules, which are all about keeping the purpose of Avalon intact.
The confusion arose because she wanted total and free license to "let all hang out", and to run her self-centered Natalia Show.
And it is true, there are things going on behind the scenes which I would never reveal, in order not to embarrass her further. As is probably true for all of us. We all have stuff in our past (and present) which makes us cringe when reminded.
About there being no exclusion. True at the highest level of idealism.
But there are other levels.
When we lock the front door at nights it is to EXCLUDE anyone we do not wish to enter our home at that point.
And that is our right.
So, to let me restate, _we are not judging people here_ we are moderating "behavior", which is different.
so as to keep Bill's space, the Project Avalon forum, safe for him.
Anyone who starts a forum will soon see that they need to set boundaries.
Natalia's record of ignoring the boundaries given goes back to the beginning.
Equally there is an amazing evidence of people showing her patience and tolerance.
Let's not forget that part.
I do love your name ILOVEYOU, and find you quite easy to love.
And that should be everyone's ideal to strive to such a state of radiance, and loving kindness.
At the same time also must remind those who say they love the whole world, I can present them with at least ten people who would put such a statement to the test.
I have had clients who were married to psychopaths, and their identity was totally destroyed, and the more loving they became, the more their psychopathic spouses became sadistic.
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 13:53
My head is shaking. Disorientation...weirdness...alternate nonreality? I started reading posts at the top of the page and can't connect any one to any other one. Did something happen to the neighborhood?
Hi Snowflower,
Process and healing stages in the village at present. But to the question, your answer is found several pages back.
I'm a little better this morning. I'll tackle the refrigeration problem now and just keep plodding on getting ready for invasion. The official date is now April 3rd.
If you don’t mind me asking, you’ve been through a lot with family, health and property changes. Even your refrigerator went kaput (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80619-SHTF-is-the-little-things&p=941743&viewfull=1#post941743). Are things better for you? Or at least adjusted to the changes?
RunningDeer <3
ulli
14th April 2015, 13:58
For the self to become truly empowered it needs to be unified. This means to weed out all contradictions in the personality. Being a bit moody is one thing, and one can say stuff like I'm sorry, "Im not feeling 100% today."
In other words, one is acknowledging that others have certain expectations, and might be surprised that they are not being met.
But when one has two opposite personalities where one side does not know what the other side is up to...this can cause endless trouble; not just to the bewildered friends and relatives, but ultimately to the self which resides in the core of the being.
Since I became intimidated by recent events I am now unable to say anything that I believe ought to be said without fearing that someone is feeling bad because they think I am talking down to them. I am having to overcome these fears now.
But I am reminded that we cannot have a society where one person demands that their feelings must be respected, while at the same time they wish to have the freedom to ignore the feelings of others.
Speaking of feelings, here are mine. If I stick out here, in this Here and Now thread, to the point that it attracts stalkers, and people who want to poke me with needles, seeing only my over-inflated ego, I will withdraw.
My wish here was a community, not a platform with me on stage, and having to face an audience of fans and hecklers.
Bill Ryan
14th April 2015, 13:58
Flash, ulli, Marianne,
I see that we have clashed at times and more so lately, but I care about you all, maybe you all care about me to.
Sometimes misunderstandings happen, and clashes, and triggers, as well as boundaries being crossed.
I mean no harm and don't want to hurt anyone, and in all of our hearts and higher self, I am sure that we all don't.
If we are not going to be buddy-buddy we can at least be respectful to one another, and forgive each other.
Peace and love
Why did Natalia retire..? Anyone..?
It was my call, when I woke up yesterday morning and saw what had transpired overnight. Natalie was directly responsible, as it were, for the loss of Marianne (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=951955&viewfull=1#post951955) as a mod and a forum member. And that was a huge loss for our team.
'Retiring' her was the kindest thing to do, as the new tag against her name implies leaving with full honor, so to speak. It's not 'unsubscribed', which tells the world it's a ban. ('Ban' is a violent word that I really don't like.)
I apologized sincerely in private to Marianne, Ulli and Flash. I had almost no clue any of this upset was happening: as many of you know, I rarely intrude into the quiet and serene village with my clumsy muddy boots, usually politely coming in for birthdays and special events only. :)
Instead, I was attending to a few bushfires elsewhere. So it was my bad for not supporting the folks here as needed.
I've been in touch with Natalie backchannel. She was upset, but is philosophically accepting her retirement, to her credit. She is embarrassed and apologetic. It should maybe be regarded rather like a relationship breakup... a degree of incompatibility, but no bad guys here. We wish her well on her journey of learning, which is one we all share.
Natalie asked me to delete some posts relating to all this, but after discussion with Ulli (quite an interesting one!) we both agreed to let them stand, as they represent reality, as it were.
But she also asked me to delete her thread about her Skype and Facebook contacts, which I've done. However, Ulli suggested that if anyone wants to get in touch with Natalie privately, they should PM me with their personal contact details and I will immediately forward them to Natalie, who I'm sure will appreciate them. That was an excellent idea — my thanks to Ulli for that kind thought of hers, which had not occurred to me.
My warmest regards to everyone here ~ Bill
*Bill puts his muddy boots back on, and tromps away with Mara to get back to work in the garden :) *
Roisin
14th April 2015, 14:03
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NONE OF US ARE PERFECT.
ThePythonicCow
14th April 2015, 14:22
For the self to become truly empowered it needs to be unified. This means to weed out all contradictions in the personality. Being a bit moody is one thing, and one can say stuff like I'm sorry, "Im not feeling 100% today."
In other words, one is acknowledging that others have certain expectations, and might be surprised that they are not being met.
But when one has two opposite personalities where one side does not know what the other side is up to...this can cause endless trouble; not just to the bewildered friends and relatives, but ultimately to the self which resides in the core of the being.
From my perspective, I don't seek to unify myself, but rather seek to have all the parts of me on agreeable speaking terms with each other.
We're too complicated to be as one, encompassing all aspects of ourselves, from any particular perspective.
Rather we're each more like a Village. In our better moments, the multiple self-organizing layers of our beings, at various physical, chemical, biological, mental, energetic and spiritual levels, are supportive of each other, or at least amused or tolerant of each other (aspect of our being.)
"Unified" sounded too monotone to me, risking being a denial of our own self-diversity.
When several of the various aspects of ourselves are cooperating on a common goal, we can indeed become quite powerful. Perhaps that is more what you meant by unity being empowering.
(If my occassional forays into philosophy make little sense, fret not ... I will reliably return to my nerdly computer and economic studies shortly.)
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 14:24
Speaking of feelings, here are mine. If I stick out here, in this Here and Now thread, to the point that it attracts stalkers, and people who want to poke me with needles, seeing only my over-inflated ego, I will withdraw.
My wish here was a community, not a platform with me on stage, and having to face an audience of fans and hecklers.
Stalkers and needles are too low a vibration to withstand our unified energies here. And if it takes putting on our mod tee-shirts at the Village…well so be it.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/HN_black_zpsd9zwaura.gifhttp://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Dan33_zpsqzldnl52.gif
Second line of defense...we add another layer.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/PA_red_zpsnpseu2ts.gif
<3
PS Take one and pass them around. (drag to your desk top)
Selkie
14th April 2015, 14:34
...I have had clients who were married to psychopaths, and their identity was totally destroyed, and the more loving they became, the more their psychopathic spouses became sadistic.
Not to take this thread off topic, but just as an aside, this is what JLL tried to do to me. He tried to turn me into a totally subjugated, unpaid household drudge who had no mind or will of her own. He tried to destroy my personality and identity; he tried to turn me into his Stepford Wife.
Sorry if this post is not appropriate here, but Ulli's quote about what psychopaths do to their women is spot on, as I know from personal experience.
ulli
14th April 2015, 14:43
For the self to become truly empowered it needs to be unified. This means to weed out all contradictions in the personality. Being a bit moody is one thing, and one can say stuff like I'm sorry, "Im not feeling 100% today."
In other words, one is acknowledging that others have certain expectations, and might be surprised that they are not being met.
But when one has two opposite personalities where one side does not know what the other side is up to...this can cause endless trouble; not just to the bewildered friends and relatives, but ultimately to the self which resides in the core of the being.
From my perspective, I don't seek to unify myself, but rather seek to have all the parts of me on agreeable speaking terms with each other.
We're too complicated to be as one, encompassing all aspects of ourselves, from any particular perspective.
Rather we're each more like a Village. In our better moments, the multiple self-organizing layers of our beings, at various physical, chemical, biological, mental, energetic and spiritual levels, are supportive of each other, or at least amused or tolerant of each other (aspect of our being.)
"Unified" sounded too monotone to me, risking being a denial of our own self-diversity.
When several of the various aspects of ourselves are cooperating on a common goal, we can indeed become quite powerful. Perhaps that is more what you meant by unity being empowering.
(If my occassional forays into philosophy make little sense, fret not ... I will reliably return to my nerdly computer and economic studies shortly.)
Thank you for pointing that out, Paul. Well said.
Actually, it is what I believe, too.
Memory is needed, and honesty, to be able to perceive all aspects of the self,
and then choose carefully what one wishes to present as one's gift to the world.
Which can vary at any given Here and Now moment.
P.S. Paul, your musings, although rare these days, are always welcome, no matter how diverse.
ulli
14th April 2015, 14:48
...I have had clients who were married to psychopaths, and their identity was totally destroyed, and the more loving they became, the more their psychopathic spouses became sadistic.
Not to take this thread off topic, but just as an aside, this is what JLL tried to do to me. He tried to turn me into a totally subjugated, unpaid household drudge who had no mind or will of her own. He tried to destroy my personality and identity; he tried to turn me into his Stepford Wife.
Sorry if this post is not appropriate here, but Ulli's quote about what psychopaths do to their women is spot on, as I know from personal experience.
This is not off-topic at all. Please, use this thread at any time you have the urge to unload.
Lots of people can relate, I am sure.
A new question now arises (since I am still processing recent events and my own shattered nervous system:
'was Natalia reprimanded for being off topic?'
My answer to that is no, but for being antagonistic, which is rather different.
In reality there is no such thing as off-topic in the here and now.
Selkie
14th April 2015, 14:54
...I have had clients who were married to psychopaths, and their identity was totally destroyed, and the more loving they became, the more their psychopathic spouses became sadistic.
Not to take this thread off topic, but just as an aside, this is what JLL tried to do to me. He tried to turn me into a totally subjugated, unpaid household drudge who had no mind or will of her own. He tried to destroy my personality and identity; he tried to turn me into his Stepford Wife.
Sorry if this post is not appropriate here, but Ulli's quote about what psychopaths do to their women is spot on, as I know from personal experience.
This is not off-topic at all. Please, use this thread at any time you have the urge to unload.
Lots of people can relate, I am sure.
A new question now arises (since I am still processing recent events and my own shattered nervous system:
'was Natalia reprimanded for being off topic?'
My answer to that is no, but for being antagonistic, which is rather different.
In reality there is no such thing as off-topic in the here and now.
Yes, I mean, no, Natalia was never reprimanded for being off topic since I have been here...to my knowledge, in other words.
Thanks, Ulli :)
an addition I am still learning the forum rules, so that was why I added the caveat about possibly being off topic.
ulli
14th April 2015, 14:58
One more comment...quite a lot today, considering how I recently stated I would only post pictures in future...
I am really glad that Roisin has found us.
(Now worried about who I might be omitting. Silkie? ILOVEYOU? I hope everyone can see my dilemma.
I have deliberately cultivated the art of ignoring so as not to overload this thread with my presence.
That way I could give all the Villagers the chance to speak on behalf of the Village.
This morning I saw a few posts which I had forgotten to thank. Let me assure people that sometimes especially recently,
I have been so busy that I fell into bed without checking Avalon. I know, unheard of, given my record. But that's what happens when there are changes in life.
ThePythonicCow
14th April 2015, 15:07
I am still learning the forum rules, so that was why I added the caveat about possibly being off topic.
Forum threads are like books in a library ... some are more narrowly focused, some more wide ranging.
Selkie
14th April 2015, 15:11
One more comment...quite a lot today, considering how I recently stated I would only post pictures in future...
I am really glad that Roisin has found us.
(Now worried about who I might be omitting. Silkie? ILOVEYOU? I hope everyone can see my dilemma.
I have deliberately cultivated the art of ignoring so as not to overload this thread with my presence.
That way I could give all the Villagers the chance to speak on behalf of the Village.
This morning I saw a few posts which I had forgotten to thank. Let me assure people that sometimes especially recently,
I have been so busy that I fell into bed without checking Avalon. I know, unheard of, given my record. But that's what happens when there are changes in life.
Oh, gosh, Ulli...please do not concern yourself about thanking me! Concern yourself with your lovely garden, instead!
With hugs :bearhug:
ulli
14th April 2015, 15:27
One more comment...quite a lot today, considering how I recently stated I would only post pictures in future...
I am really glad that Roisin has found us.
(Now worried about who I might be omitting. Silkie? ILOVEYOU? I hope everyone can see my dilemma.
I have deliberately cultivated the art of ignoring so as not to overload this thread with my presence.
That way I could give all the Villagers the chance to speak on behalf of the Village.
This morning I saw a few posts which I had forgotten to thank. Let me assure people that sometimes especially recently,
I have been so busy that I fell into bed without checking Avalon. I know, unheard of, given my record. But that's what happens when there are changes in life.
Oh, gosh, Ulli...please do not concern yourself about thanking me! Concern yourself with your lovely garden, instead!
With hugs :bearhug:
The sweetness of this reply shows me that you have that classic kind and humble personality, the kind which all predator-types rush to like moths to a candle.
Is it because they seek redemption? Or is it they their entities wish to make you so weak as to make you ineffective.
This has been going on forever, and this is why our aim here is empowerment.
Still harping on about that other recent topic...to make the distinction...
Women who see themselves as a half of an orange and shop for underwear to attract a mate, these are not the kind of women I am trying to encourage, nor empower. On the contrary, their approach will only end up with them getting hurt over and over again, as they will send the wrong signal to start with.
My message to women is this, go and educate yourselves about local and world affairs, and don't allow anyone to trap you in a kitchen and bedroom exclusively. You can still keep your make-up, and your pretty clothes, but they are not the end-all of femininity.
The divine feminine is so much greater. We must strive for that higher spiritual self, only then we will have the diverse self which Paul mentioned earlier.
Roisin
14th April 2015, 15:35
Don't be a doormat Ulli wrt to recent unfortunate events in this thread and one person in particular. "Blank" knew what "blank" was doing all along and there's no question in my mind that "blank" is in fact a very very clever person... much more than "blank" was letting on. "Blank" used various passive-aggressive tactics to set-up her targets so when once things reached full-tilt, her targets were the ones apologizing instead of the other way around. In fact, "blank" is a real pro and I have been in other forums comprised of a "blank-like" person or two. Should anyone want to contact "blank" now to send "blank" any messages from other members who want to contact "blank" from this forum, IMHO, it should be a female who handles that and not Bill or any male member of this forum. :nerd:
P.S. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
3(C)+me
14th April 2015, 16:05
Well you know I was watching all this from the sidelines and I have to say many many many times I wondered why this person was even on this forum? Why this one. I seemed to me she was attempting to use this as a dating site or attempting to find her next soul mate and I just steered clear of her but I had my own ideas about what was going on.
Sometimes love is not enough, one needs boundaries, needs to know this is a community coming together to share information for their personal growth, if one is here to find their next boyfriend here, well, I do have a problem with that, many other websites out their in web land that would be better suited for their needs. A the very least she was a distraction. People do develop friendships and develop a reppore with others at best, it comes along in a natural way. I didn't think this was the case. But I don't doubt she was a nice and kind person but seemed a little lost.
Roisin
14th April 2015, 16:15
Yes, the kind thing to do is to give someone like that the benefit of the doubt but you know?..... best to not say anymore.... it's sad... actually.
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 16:24
One of the many reason why I love the Village is it’s inviting format. I can add stuff that matters no where else.
Most daily happenings in my life aren’t worth a mention. Especially when family and friends ask, “So…what have you been up too lately?”
Some I’ve shared but either the family ADD gene (attention deficit disorder) hasn’t regenerated as yet or there's no common ground they can relate to or the question is a habitual automatic response. To which I want to reply, “If you ask a question then listen to the answer. If not please don’t ask. Cuz, I’ve got my literal hat on here and now. Now, where’d you leave off on ‘Survivor: the tribe has spoken?’ Please pass the guacamole. Yes, more wine. More. Top it off. Heck, leave the bottle, thanks.”
Back to my appreciation for the supportive Villagers. I get to report daily happenings small as some are… They’re synchronities captured. I put them into words before they go unnoticed and unforgotten even by me.
With heart,
P'er
3(C)+me
14th April 2015, 16:41
So now for some news about what is happening here and now: This is nature and city: can they co-exist. I am rooting for the cat.
Big cat stuck under Los Feliz house will not come out.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-famed-p22-mountain-lion-found-under-los-feliz-home-owner-says-20150413-story.html
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Poor cat, it's a circus out there. Probably thinking WTF?
Violet
14th April 2015, 16:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3HbdFun0PA&spfreload=1
The Current Lunar Cycle
(29° Pisces)
This is a very intense new moon, with a total solar eclipse.
The moon is also at perigee, as close to the earth as it’s
going to get. We won’t be able to see it – the new moon is
always invisible – but the oceans will feel its stronger pull,
and the tides will carry its message.
It happens at the last degree of Pisces, so it speaks to the
end of an era. And it’s only four days after the last exact
Uranus/Pluto square, so it’s the footnote to a struggle that’
s been going on for the last four years.
There’s enormous emotional energy at this new moon, and
it will take the whole lunar cycle, and beyond, to process
it. There’s sorrow, yearning, regret, fear, and
forgiveness. Many people will feel their hearts crack open,
and will discover all kinds of things that they didn’t know
about themselves.
An eclipse is a time of revelations, and often these filter in
slowly, at the rate we can handle them. But because this
one is so intense, people will be flooded with these new
understandings. For some people, it will be a religious
experience. They’ll stand on their personal mountain-tops
and get a felt, personal message from their gods. For
others, it will be a new ability to recognize our shared
humanity, and a weakening of the barriers that keep us
apart.
Others may break down, unable to process this powerful
rush of feeling. So this is a lunar cycle in which we will all
need to take care of each other.
This lunar cycle lasts until the next new moon on April 18.
Its climactic moment is the full moon (and lunar eclipse) on
April 4.
The new moon occurred
in NYC: Fri, Mar 20, 5:36 am
in Vancouver: Fri, Mar 20, 2:36 am
in London: Fri, Mar 20, 9:36 am
in Singapore: Fri, Mar 20, 5:36 pm
in Sydney: Fri, Mar 20, 8:36 pm
(from: http://www.astrologerjenny.com/current.html)
Cristian
14th April 2015, 16:44
@ ulli :hug:
http://www.wallpaperspoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/bouquet-flowers-desktop-background-hd-wallpaper.jpg
spiritwind
14th April 2015, 16:44
Well you know I was watching all this from the sidelines and I have to say many many many times I wondered why this person was even on this forum? Why this one. I seemed to me she was attempting to use this as a dating site or attempting to find her next soul mate and I just steered clear of her but I had my own ideas about what was going on.
Sometimes love is not enough, one needs boundaries, needs to know this is a community coming together to share information for their personal growth, if one is here to find their next boyfriend here, well, I do have a problem with that, many other websites out their in web land that would be better suited for their needs. A the very least she was a distraction. But I don't doubt she was a nice and kind person but seemed a little lost.
You know, some of us grew up not knowing what boundaries are all about. I had no clue and literally had to learn about "appropriate boundaries". I am not blaming anyone. Once I figured out that was a big part of the problem then I had a place from which to work from. And it is an ongoing process, for me anyway. And my daughter literally had to get dragged out of class in elementary school because she would throw emotional fits that would disrupt the entire class. I understand why she did this and felt terrible that it took her so long to understand what was really happening, but still the teachers had to do something so they could actually teach. The only thing that seemed to help her at all was several Reiki sessions that helped unload all the emotional energy that she generated and picked up from others. There is so much more to our inner workings. Sometimes there is no simple answer to things, just working through it.
3(C)+me
14th April 2015, 16:55
I do understand what you are saying I was not all that great about boundaries as a younger person but I learned real fast after some very unsetting encounters. I do have some sympathy but I do think that, if fact, I am sure that people did attempt to help said person out but sometimes people do have their agenda's and it is not to fit in and participate. Look, I know that people can get stuck in the "I need this" or "I am looking for that, this will help me out" but learning about yourself through others can be painful but if it bears fruit, "Oh, Ok I tend to do this and it affects other, or I am needy in this way" without judgment of self or others it can be a good thing. I have had enough learning in this department so I know this stuff all too well. I wish her well.
And about boundaries, do you let someone come into your home and start throwing things around and create chaos, and poor me, I am so alone and please give me this or that. No, you say please leave. This is the grown up thing to do. This forum has guidelines so a person can't come in and throw things around. This is a case in point. The most powerful word in the English language is No, women need to learn to say it more often without guilt.
Selkie
14th April 2015, 17:41
You know, some of us grew up not knowing what boundaries are all about. I had no clue and literally had to learn about "appropriate boundaries"...
That's how it was for me, too. When your boundaries are violated when you are a child, you grow up with no clue as to what boundaries even are.
Limor Wolf
14th April 2015, 18:28
The situation was in so far strange as a big part of the conflict unfolded behind the scenes appearently and outsiders have only the public part of the picture. They think about it and get their own ideas wether they like it or not. And if someone shares his impression he is told: you don't have the whole picture.
I'm ready to trust the discernment, genuineness and willingness of the Here&Now women, all the more so I'm convinced that you know: Exclusion is never a real option. We are interconnected so tightly, all we experience or discern is a part of ourselves as individuals or community. Natalia is a part of each individual here, wether she is retired or not. And wether she has done wrong or not. LOVE is indivisible.
Now that I am 56 it was only three months ago that I've learned something: A wise woman knows when to speak and when to be silent. How much tears, disappointment, rejection and misunderstanding could have been avoided if I had known that earlier. For sure I haven't mastered it yet, maybe it will take me 30 more years. At the moment my whole body is shouting: Shut up! But you know: Life does not work that way. The principle of life is INTEGRATION.
My whole body except one tiny part. The part of me who has seen unfolding similiar scenarios too often: A system becomes unstable and vulnerable for what reason ever and the weakest part of it is identified and eliminated as fast as possible.
A wise woman only gives advice if she's asked for. We cannot change people. We can just love them, listen to them, give them space to be themselves, to make their own 'mistakes' again and again, until they grow out of it. To interfere only if they are actually about to do damage to themselves or others. What is perceived as damage varies individually as well as culturally. To notice where one's current limits are is a real challenge (speaking to myself).
I'm seeing a circle of powerful women here, who really care and stand in their own right, there's no need to call for men's support. Just don't throw away a part of yourself. I wish regaining strength and joy for everybody who has been hurt. Believe it or not, I LOVE YOU, ULLI and ALL as well as I love NATALIA. I really do.
I applaud your one tiny part who shout, Iloveyou. It's usually small parts such as this that hold a good amount of wisdom ~
Iloveyou
14th April 2015, 18:32
Now worried about who I might be omitting. Silkie? ILOVEYOU? I hope everyone can see my dilemma.
I have deliberately cultivated the art of ignoring so as not to overload this thread with my presence.
Oh, gosh, Ulli...please do not concern yourself about thanking me! Concern yourself with your lovely garden, instead!
Same with me. Never worry about that. I'm fine with everything you do or say (thank you from my heart for your kind response). We need to read between the lines most of the time. I'm your guest here. Life has been kind to me. Just be you and be happy again. Don't worry, listen to your heart. From our vulnerability and tenderness emerges our greatest strength. Thank you, Ulli, for all you taught me today.
Jean-Marie
14th April 2015, 18:57
Beautiful sunny day in the suburbs of Chicago. I went for a very long walk with my best friend. I shared with her about the wonderful people in the Village and my appreciation for everyone and their contributions! :heart:
Agape
14th April 2015, 19:37
tEtBjATvLdc
Sometimes it's only at the precipice that we change ..
:heart::bearhug::flower:
Mikelodium
14th April 2015, 19:43
Not as fancy as other pictures posted lately here in the Village, but Shiitake shrooms just arrived home!
http://i.imgur.com/6nS2NWA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AYDok41.jpg
First impression has been like... holly cow, what the hell is this... But when I opened the packet... Mother Gaia! Smells like having a piece of forest at home!
I can't wait for this little creatures to grow.
On a different matter, I've been enjoying some traditional songs lately, I really like this one, not just the music but the story that it contains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpuSpyZrJ0
Hugs for everyone :)
Selkie
14th April 2015, 20:02
Not as fancy as other pictures posted lately here in the Village, but Shiitake shrooms just arrived home!
http://i.imgur.com/6nS2NWA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AYDok41.jpg
First impression has been like... holly cow, what the hell is this... But when I opened the packet... Mother Gaia! Smells like having a piece of forest at home!
I can't wait for this little creatures to grow.
On a different matter, I've been enjoying some traditional songs lately, I really like this one, not just the music but the story that it contains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpuSpyZrJ0
Hugs for everyone :)
How totally cool. And I love that loamy, earthy smell. But then, I am a mycophile :)
Snowflower
14th April 2015, 20:25
About April 3rd. They came, they saw, they left. No word yet. The longer we go without vacate notice, the less likely vacate notice happens. One comment made at end, "those folks with health issues - what are they doing here? They don't belong here." How DARE he! If my brother (on oxygen full time) and I (on crutches) are told to vacate and others are not, you better bet we will be contacting the Americans with Disabilities organization about a discrimination lawsuit.
So, assuming no "health and safety" vacate demand, we go onward to "Land Use" and "Building Permits." That's where lack of money becomes serious problem.
At this moment, it is "wait and see" time.
Selkie
14th April 2015, 20:29
About April 3rd. They came, they saw, they left. No word yet. The longer we go without vacate notice, the less likely vacate notice happens. One comment made at end, "those folks with health issues - what are they doing here? They don't belong here." How DARE he! If my brother (on oxygen full time) and I (on crutches) are told to vacate and others are not, you better bet we will be contacting the Americans with Disabilities organization about a discrimination lawsuit.
So, assuming no "health and safety" vacate demand, we go onward to "Land Use" and "Building Permits." That's where lack of money becomes serious problem.
At this moment, it is "wait and see" time.
I really wish you all the best with this, Snowflower.
Sierra
14th April 2015, 20:38
About April 3rd. They came, they saw, they left. No word yet. The longer we go without vacate notice, the less likely vacate notice happens. One comment made at end, "those folks with health issues - what are they doing here? They don't belong here." How DARE he! If my brother (on oxygen full time) and I (on crutches) are told to vacate and others are not, you better bet we will be contacting the Americans with Disabilities organization about a discrimination lawsuit.
So, assuming no "health and safety" vacate demand, we go onward to "Land Use" and "Building Permits." That's where lack of money becomes serious problem.
At this moment, it is "wait and see" time.
I really wish you all the best with this, Snowflower.
So do I. Unreal what you've been going through...
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 20:40
Oh dear, this post has reached it’s sell-by-date. That's a good thing. It took a bit to formulate the words while out for a walk. Just in case I’ll add it.
Food for thought…
No doubt we’re all at different stages of processing from the last several days. There’s a fine line between cathartic support and (fill in the blank).
It’s not my intention to minimize anyone’s feelings. While we have each other here, she does not. One can say then don’t lurk. Self-loathing, confusion, curiosity, sadness, love-ability or lack there of are but a few of many reasons most of us would. It’s all part of the human condition.
This was one of the songs that played while on my walk.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/Heart_zpsvezvkpwd.GIF
Raise it Up (movie - August Rush)
A4A15uxxZEA
There's far
Too many pressures in reality
With dealing with the pain
The stress and poverty
And I gotta be myself because
There's nobody else for me
(Noo)
(Hang in there with me)
Sometimes it takes
A different kind of love
To raise a child
(So don't give up)
So don't give up
(When pressures come down)
Sometimes it takes
A different kind of dream
To make you smile
(So raise it up)
So raise
(Hang in there with me)
Sometimes we need
Another helping hand
To show the way
(So don't give up)
So don't give up
(When pressures come down)
Sometimes it seems impossible
And that's why we pray
(So raise it up)
We pray
Seems to be
Nothing left for me
Momma's gone
Daddy didn't wanna be
And now I'm all by myself
Wondering where is love
Or should I just give up
(Ya kno)
Life falls down on me
Cuts into my soul
But I know I got the strength
To make it through it all
Cause I'm still standing tall
Breaking through these walls
I'm gonna give my all
Feeling like
A motherless child
Pain cuts into my soul
It's bringing me down
Can't find my smile
On the face
Of a motherless child
I'm gonna break
Down these walls
Gonna give my all
Ya know
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahhhhh
(Hang in there with me)
Sometimes it takes
A different kind of love
To raise a child
(So don't give up)
So don't give up
(When pressures come down)
Sometimes it takes
A different kind of dream
To make you smile
(So raise it up)
So raise it up
(Hang in there with me)
Sometimes we need
Another helping hand
To show you the way
(So don't give up)
(When pressures come down)
Sometimes it seems impossible
That's why we pray
So raise it up
Snowflower
14th April 2015, 20:42
I'm sorry for not reporting in sooner. My life is mind-numbing hard at the moment. Hubby and I spent 14 years building a life that required the work of two to maintain. I am only part of one now, and it's killing me to try to take care of it all. Something's gotta give. I just sold the last of the ducks, have only eight chickens now. I will sell all goats and all but four sheep, will see if I can maintain at that level. Have to plant seedlings now that county has come and gone. Have garden to clear, plant, care for.
Five days ago, I got food poisoning from bad chicken (from store.) Looks like damage done in bowels - heading toward diverticulitis again. Don't want another hospital run, so decided on drastic action. Started juice fast with lots of cabbage yesterday. Food addiction withdrawal is kicking in today. Just another stress factor in a life with such an astonishing level of stress that it feels like the inside of a washing machine.
Jean-Marie
14th April 2015, 20:46
I'm sorry for not reporting in sooner. My life is mind-numbing hard at the moment. Hubby and I spent 14 years building a life that required the work of two to maintain. I am only part of one now, and it's killing me to try to take care of it all. Something's gotta give. I just sold the last of the ducks, have only eight chickens now. I will sell all goats and all but four sheep, will see if I can maintain at that level. Have to plant seedlings now that county has come and gone. Have garden to clear, plant, care for.
Five days ago, I got food poisoning from bad chicken (from store.) Looks like damage done in bowels - heading toward diverticulitis again. Don't want another hospital run, so decided on drastic action. Started juice fast with lots of cabbage yesterday. Food addiction withdrawal is kicking in today. Just another stress factor in a life with such an astonishing level of stress that it feels like the inside of a washing machine.
Dear Snowflower!
Sending loving healing intentions your way! :heart:
-jean-marie
Sierra
14th April 2015, 20:54
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952273&viewfull=1#post952273
skyflower said,
I picked up a book called The four agreements which is a Toltec wisdom book.
Been practicing 1) Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
2)Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
I am able to do this maybe 10 percent of my day. Maybe even less. Oh but what a difference it makes!
Oh wow! I had an "experience" with that material, still to this day I wonder, how the man knew he had to speak so loudly to me.
I shared this before, but I can't resist... :)
Some years ago, I was at Lake Tahoe with my husband having a really bad morning with his as yet undiagnosed PTSD, ADHD, and bipolar. Standing in the store to buy some thongs, I hit a brick wall as he snapped at me. Again. Stopped dead in my mental tracks, clutching a pair of thongs, staring at thin air, realizing I had no way to cope or deal with my feelings. Overwhelmed with a feeling of horrific despair, I don't know what to do next, oh G*d, what do I do?
A man with curly greying blonde hair, in a khaki trench coat, walked into the store, stopped dead by the sales clerk counter, four feet away from me, facing me alone, and immediately, while looking straight into my eyes, recited the four laws to me. Loudly. Loudly and clearly, so this deafie got every word. And immediately turned around and left. Since he spoke loudly, I looked around, embarrassed my pain and lack was exposed. Sales clerk behind the counter two feet away from him didn't notice. The people standing around looking at stuff didn't. No one did. No. One. Heard. Him. But. Me.
I spent the next fifteen years working on "Don't take things personally. Nothing others do is because of you..." (That was all I could remember, though I remember he told me four things.) "When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering" is true, so true, and makes the hard work so worth it.
I felt like I had made enough progress on the first law, that I was antsy and frustrated I couldn't remember the rest of what he said.
Three days later, a retired member named Steve (Such a funny guy! Had me in hysterics at a description of a fight with his wife) posted the four Toltec laws, and I was able to continue onward with, "Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love."
Got truth down. Got saying what I mean down. Got avoid putting myself down. Still miss the line between gossip, and not gossip sometimes. Still working on love. Truth without love sucks. Working, working.
Then I will move onto the next law. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952352&viewfull=1#post952352
Ulli said,
Speaking of feelings, here are mine. If I stick out here, in this Here and Now thread, to the point that it attracts stalkers, and people who want to poke me with needles, seeing only my over-inflated ego, I will withdraw.
Hell no. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952368&viewfull=1#post952368
Ulli said,
A new question now arises (since I am still processing recent events and my own shattered nervous system: 'was Natalia reprimanded for being off topic?
My answer to that is no, but for being antagonistic, which is rather different. In reality there is no such thing as off-topic in the here and now.
I avoided Natalia so I didn't see the antagonistic aspect until she blew on the H&N thread, and then started two more threads aimed at you, Flash, and Marianne. For me (my triggers) it *was* in part the inappropriate forum behavior, using the forum as a dating service, as a victim sympathy gas station, ignoring her own part in communication transactions.
For me, I feel at fault, in part, for losing Marianne. I learned the hard way during the 9E brouhaha, when I was the only mod confronting her for the bullying on the Drake thread. I got no support from the other mods, therefore felt isolated and alone, while getting hammered. I left in October 2014, and did not return until April 2015, when I peered into the forum and saw 9E had been banned.
This mod stuff in some cases, simply cannot be handled alone. It takes the entire team to not only reach consensus, but support one another, that they are on the right path with the guidelines. (God, I love the guidelines, I love them. Makes it much much easier to say to members, what you are doing is not healthy for the Whole of Avalon.)
It also takes Avalon, you. I was SO encouraged to see y'all support Ulli through a rough patch in The Village. :) Sometimes it takes the consensus words of the group to show (whew) I am not nuts, this is necessary, and I will step up to the plate for the sake of the forum. (And each time I go through this I learn more, my skin toughens, I don't take things "as" personally, and I see by the consequences of my actions, what works, what doesn't... And I don't have to leave the forum for six months to recuperate lol.)
Post mortem analysis: Marianne isolated herself to spare the team members going through rough stuff, and wore herself out. I isolated myself (with 9E) because I could not yet ask the team to have my back (and the Avalon members on thread did not support my calling out 9E on bullying).
Isolation really hurts. I was even afraid to rejoin The Village with whole heart because of the Avalon lack of response to the 9E bullying... (It was one of those baying hounds/mob rule/only idiots would believe Drake etc. threads)(Wouldn't happen now, I'm tougher, thank you teacher, lol.).
So... Ulli is not the only person grateful for your support.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952352&viewfull=1#post952352
Ulli said,
Since I became intimidated by recent events I am now unable to say anything that I believe ought to be said without fearing that someone is feeling bad because they think I am talking down to them. I am having to overcome these fears now.
It's a hard one. See above. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952353&viewfull=1#post952353
Bill said,
I've been in touch with Natalie backchannel. She was upset, but is philosophically accepting her retirement, to her credit. She is embarrassed and apologetic. It should maybe be regarded rather like a relationship breakup... a degree of incompatibility, but no bad guys here. We wish her well on her journey of learning, which is one we all share.
No bad guys, never thought of Natalia as a bad guy. If the world was not as it is, if I were not as I am, I would tenderly cuddle The Natalia. And this is what my heart inside me does. And it breaks my heart when I can't outwardly, that boundaries are needed instead.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952405&viewfull=1#post952405
Paul er said,
... Now, where’d you leave off on ‘Survivor: the tribe has spoken?’ Please pass the guacamole. Yes, more wine. More. Top it off. Heck, leave the bottle, thanks.”
Muffled sympathy giggles (wanna be a fly on the wall watching you in action)... :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952411&viewfull=1#post952411
Violet gives us proof astrology is right on in my book!),
There’s enormous emotional energy at this new moon, and it will take the whole lunar cycle, and beyond, to process
it. There’s sorrow, yearning, regret, fear, and forgiveness. Many people will feel their hearts crack open, and will discover all kinds of things that they didn’t know about themselves.
An eclipse is a time of revelations, and often these filter in slowly, at the rate we can handle them. But because this one is so intense, people will be flooded with these new understandings. For some people, it will be a religious experience. They’ll stand on their personal mountain-tops and get a felt, personal message from their gods. For others, it will be a new ability to recognize our shared humanity, and a weakening of the barriers that keep us apart.
Others may break down, unable to process...
I'm flooded, swamped, dripping wet lol. (Marianne would say, "Breathe dear.")
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952413&viewfull=1#post952413
spiritwind says,
You know, some of us grew up not knowing what boundaries are all about. I had no clue and literally had to learn about "appropriate boundaries". I am not blaming anyone. Once I figured out that was a big part of the problem then I had a place from which to work from. And it is an ongoing process, for me anyway.. And my daughter literally had to get dragged out of class in elementary school because she would throw emotional fits that would disrupt the entire class. I understand why she did this and felt terrible that it took her so long to understand what was really happening, but still the teachers had to do something so they could actually teach. The only thing that seemed to help her at all was several Reiki sessions that helped unload all the emotional energy that she generated and picked up from others. There is so much more to our inner workings. Sometimes there is no simple answer to things, just working through it.
Oh right on, and right on ccme, and Silkie too. No blame. Just inadequate or downright bad (very bad in Natalia's case, from what she shared about her dad) parenting. As ccme said, it is unsettling. To realize people react to your lack of boundaries, and it dawns on you, you blew it, not them. It is soooo subtle when you have not learned boundaries, to grasp what the issue is. And painful.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952389&viewfull=1#post952389
Ulli said,
My message to women is this, go and educate yourselves about local and world affairs, and don't allow anyone to trap you in a kitchen and bedroom exclusively. You can still keep your make-up, and your pretty clothes, but they are not the end-all of femininity. The divine feminine is so much greater."
We must make room for it to be socially acceptable for women not to be dim bulb yahoos, inviting abuse. Here is a TERRIFIC video my husband showed me this morning that shows some work that needs to be done:
hxiwXQS4yQM
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 21:00
I'm sorry for not reporting in sooner. My life is mind-numbing hard at the moment. Hubby and I spent 14 years building a life that required the work of two to maintain. I am only part of one now, and it's killing me to try to take care of it all. Something's gotta give. I just sold the last of the ducks, have only eight chickens now. I will sell all goats and all but four sheep, will see if I can maintain at that level. Have to plant seedlings now that county has come and gone. Have garden to clear, plant, care for.
Five days ago, I got food poisoning from bad chicken (from store.) Looks like damage done in bowels - heading toward diverticulitis again. Don't want another hospital run, so decided on drastic action. Started juice fast with lots of cabbage yesterday. Food addiction withdrawal is kicking in today. Just another stress factor in a life with such an astonishing level of stress that it feels like the inside of a washing machine.
It's been one heck of a year, Snowflower. You're one of those with a great big spirit. Many learn how to come out the other side because of your tenacity, creative problem solving skills and stick-tutive-ness. Even if you chuck it all in and head in another direction, it's a job well done.
<3
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 21:19
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952273&viewfull=1#post952273
skyflower said,
I picked up a book called The four agreements which is a Toltec wisdom book.
Been practicing 1) Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
2)Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
I am able to do this maybe 10 percent of my day. Maybe even less. Oh but what a difference it makes!
Oh wow! I had an "experience" with that material, still to this day I wonder, how the man knew he had to speak so loudly to me.
I shared this before, but I can't resist... :)
Some years ago, I was at Lake Tahoe with my husband having a really bad morning with his as yet undiagnosed PTSD, ADHD, and bipolar. Standing in the store to buy some thongs, I hit a brick wall as he snapped at me. Again. Stopped dead in my mental tracks, clutching a pair of thongs, staring at thin air, realizing I had no way to cope or deal with my feelings. Overwhelmed with a feeling of horrific despair, I don't know what to do next, oh G*d, what do I do?
A man with curly greying blonde hair, in a khaki trench coat, walked into the store, stopped dead by the sales clerk counter, four feet away from me, facing me alone, and immediately, while looking straight into my eyes, recited the four laws to me. Loudly. Loudly and clearly, so this deafie got every word. And immediately turned around and left. Since he spoke loudly, I looked around, embarrassed my pain and lack was exposed. Sales clerk behind the counter two feet away from him didn't notice. The people standing around looking at stuff didn't. No one did. No. One. Heard. Him. But. Me.
I spent the next fifteen years working on "Don't take things personally. Nothing others do is because of you..." (That was all I could remember, though I remember he told me four things.) "When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering" is true, so true, and makes the hard work so worth it.
I felt like I had made enough progress on the first law, that I was antsy and frustrated I couldn't remember the rest of what he said.
Three days later, a retired member named Steve (Such a funny guy! Had me in hysterics at a description of a fight with his wife) posted the four Toltec laws, and I was able to continue onward with, "Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love."
Got truth down. Got saying what I mean down. Got avoid putting myself down. Still miss the line between gossip, and not gossip sometimes. Still working on love. Truth without love sucks. Working, working.
Then I will move onto the next law. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952352&viewfull=1#post952352
Ulli said,
Speaking of feelings, here are mine. If I stick out here, in this Here and Now thread, to the point that it attracts stalkers, and people who want to poke me with needles, seeing only my over-inflated ego, I will withdraw.
Hell no. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952368&viewfull=1#post952368
Ulli said,
A new question now arises (since I am still processing recent events and my own shattered nervous system: 'was Natalia reprimanded for being off topic?
My answer to that is no, but for being antagonistic, which is rather different. In reality there is no such thing as off-topic in the here and now.
I avoided Natalia so I didn't see the antagonistic aspect until she blew on the H&N thread, and then started two more threads aimed at you, Flash, and Marianne. For me (my triggers) it *was* in part the inappropriate forum behavior, using the forum as a dating service, as a victim sympathy gas station, ignoring her own part in communication transactions.
For me, I feel at fault, in part, for losing Marianne. I learned the hard way during the 9E brouhaha, when I was the only mod confronting her for the bullying on the Drake thread. I got no support from the other mods, therefore felt isolated and alone, while getting hammered. I left in October 2014, and did not return until April 2015, when I peered into the forum and saw 9E had been banned.
This mod stuff in some cases, simply cannot be handled alone. It takes the entire team to not only reach consensus, but support one another, that they are on the right path with the guidelines. (God, I love the guidelines, I love them. Makes it much much easier to say to members, what you are doing is not healthy for the Whole of Avalon.)
It also takes Avalon, you. I was SO encouraged to see y'all support Ulli through a rough patch in The Village. :) Sometimes it takes the consensus words of the group to show (whew) I am not nuts, this is necessary, and I will step up to the plate for the sake of the forum. (And each time I go through this I learn more, my skin toughens, I don't take things "as" personally, and I see by the consequences of my actions, what works, what doesn't... And I don't have to leave the forum for six months to recuperate lol.)
Post mortem analysis: Marianne isolated herself to spare the team members going through rough stuff, and wore herself out. I isolated myself (with 9E) because I could not yet ask the team to have my back (and the Avalon members on thread did not support my calling out 9E on bullying).
Isolation really hurts. I was even afraid to rejoin The Village with whole heart because of the Avalon lack of response to the 9E bullying... (It was one of those baying hounds/mob rule/only idiots would believe Drake etc. threads)(Wouldn't happen now, I'm tougher, thank you teacher, lol.).
So... Ulli is not the only person grateful for your support.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952352&viewfull=1#post952352
Ulli said,
Since I became intimidated by recent events I am now unable to say anything that I believe ought to be said without fearing that someone is feeling bad because they think I am talking down to them. I am having to overcome these fears now.
It's a hard one. See above. :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952353&viewfull=1#post952353
Bill said,
I've been in touch with Natalie backchannel. She was upset, but is philosophically accepting her retirement, to her credit. She is embarrassed and apologetic. It should maybe be regarded rather like a relationship breakup... a degree of incompatibility, but no bad guys here. We wish her well on her journey of learning, which is one we all share.
No bad guys, never thought of Natalia as a bad guy. If the world was not as it is, if I were not as I am, I would tenderly cuddle The Natalia. And this is what my heart inside me does. And it breaks my heart when I can't outwardly, that boundaries are needed instead.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952405&viewfull=1#post952405
Paul er said,
... Now, where’d you leave off on ‘Survivor: the tribe has spoken?’ Please pass the guacamole. Yes, more wine. More. Top it off. Heck, leave the bottle, thanks.”
Muffled sympathy giggles (wanna be a fly on the wall watching you in action)... :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952411&viewfull=1#post952411
Violet gives us proof astrology is right on in my book!),
There’s enormous emotional energy at this new moon, and it will take the whole lunar cycle, and beyond, to process
it. There’s sorrow, yearning, regret, fear, and forgiveness. Many people will feel their hearts crack open, and will discover all kinds of things that they didn’t know about themselves.
An eclipse is a time of revelations, and often these filter in slowly, at the rate we can handle them. But because this one is so intense, people will be flooded with these new understandings. For some people, it will be a religious experience. They’ll stand on their personal mountain-tops and get a felt, personal message from their gods. For others, it will be a new ability to recognize our shared humanity, and a weakening of the barriers that keep us apart.
Others may break down, unable to process...
I'm flooded, swamped, dripping wet lol. (Marianne would say, "Breathe dear.")
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952413&viewfull=1#post952413
spiritwind says,
You know, some of us grew up not knowing what boundaries are all about. I had no clue and literally had to learn about "appropriate boundaries". I am not blaming anyone. Once I figured out that was a big part of the problem then I had a place from which to work from. And it is an ongoing process, for me anyway.. And my daughter literally had to get dragged out of class in elementary school because she would throw emotional fits that would disrupt the entire class. I understand why she did this and felt terrible that it took her so long to understand what was really happening, but still the teachers had to do something so they could actually teach. The only thing that seemed to help her at all was several Reiki sessions that helped unload all the emotional energy that she generated and picked up from others. There is so much more to our inner workings. Sometimes there is no simple answer to things, just working through it.
Oh right on, and right on ccme, and Silkie too. No blame. Just inadequate or downright bad (very bad in Natalia's case, from what she shared about her dad) parenting. As ccme said, it is unsettling. To realize people react to your lack of boundaries, and it dawns on you, you blew it, not them. It is soooo subtle when you have not learned boundaries, to grasp what the issue is. And painful.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952389&viewfull=1#post952389
Ulli said,
My message to women is this, go and educate yourselves about local and world affairs, and don't allow anyone to trap you in a kitchen and bedroom exclusively. You can still keep your make-up, and your pretty clothes, but they are not the end-all of femininity. The divine feminine is so much greater."
We must make room for it to be socially acceptable for women not to be dim bulb yahoos, inviting abuse. Here is a TERRIFIC video my husband showed me this morning that shows some work that needs to be done:
hxiwXQS4yQM
Mulit-D post. Chills, chills, I still have chills. The good kind. Especially the encounter with the Messenger. Glad you're here, Sierra. I've alway been impressed at your ability to express to the strong ones like 9E9 and bluefire.
Love you bunches,
Pauler
aviators
14th April 2015, 22:29
Never leave you kids alone with the cat.
29479
Sorry I couldent resist.
Roisin
14th April 2015, 22:34
Snowflower,
Spent time reading over your posts on this forum about your current situation and just want to say that I will keep you in my prayers that things will improve for you. You are, without a doubt, an incredibly strong woman and it amazes me how throughout it all, you've still managed to keep your sanity intact without "losing it" and drowning in utter despair like most lesser mortals in your shoes would most definitely have succumbed to by now. God Bless and May the Force be With You!
Selkie
14th April 2015, 22:37
Never leave you kids alone with the cat.
29479
Sorry I couldent resist.
You made wine come out my nose! :pound:
p.s. Actually those kids did a really nice job!
p.s. My sister and I used to put lipstick on our cat when we were kids :paintgirl:
ulli
14th April 2015, 22:42
I'm sorry for not reporting in sooner. My life is mind-numbing hard at the moment. Hubby and I spent 14 years building a life that required the work of two to maintain. I am only part of one now, and it's killing me to try to take care of it all. Something's gotta give. I just sold the last of the ducks, have only eight chickens now. I will sell all goats and all but four sheep, will see if I can maintain at that level. Have to plant seedlings now that county has come and gone. Have garden to clear, plant, care for.
Five days ago, I got food poisoning from bad chicken (from store.) Looks like damage done in bowels - heading toward diverticulitis again. Don't want another hospital run, so decided on drastic action. Started juice fast with lots of cabbage yesterday. Food addiction withdrawal is kicking in today. Just another stress factor in a life with such an astonishing level of stress that it feels like the inside of a washing machine.
What can we do to bring goodness your way?
I hope your fast will get your health back on track.
RunningDeer
14th April 2015, 22:54
FYI: This is another thread that some may have missed of SnowFlowers. It's in member's only section called, Dire need of Protection Prayers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80086-Dire-need-of-protection-prayers&p=935065&viewfull=1#post935065).
<3
Bill Ryan
14th April 2015, 23:03
This mod stuff in some cases, simply cannot be handled alone. It takes the entire team to not only reach consensus, but support one another, that they are on the right path with the guidelines.
That's a marvelous post, Sierra. Let me make an add-on comment here... I can maybe take you guys on a bit of a virtual tour of the mods' world.
We all work part-time, and we're not all in the same timezones. Our meeting place is a 24/7 running Skype group chat that's been going for literally years. There are important forum business discussions there, and also personal sharing, and levity, and jokes, the occasional baffling intrigue (like the Jesse Ames affair (http://projectavalon.net/Project_Avalon_Newsletter_2_23_November_2014.pdf)) and sometimes, quite some philosophical discussion. (A bit like the Village, actually. :) ) If a mod's been away for a few days, which often happens, they can occasionally return to find 600 posts to read. (Or, sometimes, in a lull of activity, it might be just 20...)
We also have an extensive section where we discuss issues on threads of our own. Many (but not all) of these are started by posts or PMs that members report for our interest and attention.
It's not unusual for a reported post to generate a mods thread that might run to 50-60 posts between us. You might be amazed how much time and effort we put in trying to resolve issues wisely and well.
(Joke: if ever the mods section, and our Skype chat, were to be made public, it'd be like stumbling on the Hall of Records under the Sphinx. I kid you not. Not because of any great secrets (there are none, really) — but because of the very extensive archive of forum history, thought, intelligence, and goodwill that lies buried in there... as well as extensive discussion, always with the greatest good in mind, on just about every member who we've ever decided between us to ask to leave the community.)
We can't stress how valuable it is for members to report issues to us. We just can NOT have our eyes and ears in all places on this very large forum, even with quite an extensive and able team. We're really very dependent on good members to help us notice when something needs our focus.
That's not necessarily about someone being awkward, or having a bad day. A member may have a technical problem, or a serious personal problem, or a new member may get lost, or there may be threads that should be merged, or links that don't work right. So we attend to all of that routinely. Like an ambulance or fire crew, who does what usually depends on who's around, and who's nearest, and not busy attending to something else at the time an issue crops up.
Usually, that system works pretty well. But occasionally it simply doesn't.
It's still almost inexplicable to me how Marianne somehow failed to be supported in the issue that drove her to a point when she had no more energy left. And the same with Sierra re 9eagle9, back in the mists of time. I can barely remember in detail that far back, but some mods sometimes get drawn into deep issues with members that start to feel energy-draining and personal, while others in the team think that something merely routine is happening.
(This is what happened with me and the Natalia issue: As I wrote here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952353#post952353), I had little idea there was any serious problem at all. If someone in our team had really sent up a red flare for urgent help, I'd have stayed up all night doing what I could. So would everyone else in the team. But for any of us to do that, we have to be tapped on the shoulder (or sometimes, clonked on the head).
So, it's not always straightforward. Sometimes a moderator can feel very much alone coping with something challenging... and they look around for a hand, and through the bad luck of the draw, no-one else seems to be there. The problem is, of course, that most of us have other lives to lead, also, with families, children, jobs, and other responsibilities, sometimes including their own personal health issues. It staggers me how much of themselves everyone on the mods team gives to the community; I'm impressed every day, and so should we all be.
What this all means is that we are human and fallible, like all we mortals. If we slip up, please forgive and allow for that. It doesn't happen that often, but it does happen sometimes... and it happened again just the day before yesterday.
As I said in my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=952353#post952353), we're all on our journey of learning, and no-one has a free pass on that.
protoflex
15th April 2015, 01:13
I picked up a book called The four agreements which is a Toltec wisdom book.
Been practicing 1) Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
2)Don’t Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
I am able to do this maybe 10 percent of my day. Maybe even less. Oh but what a difference it makes!
Looks like things have been rough in the village lately.
Wishing love and healing to all.
Thank you for all that you are. You are all amazing!
BPDqALFLjZI
I may be completely flawed to an extent in regards to this very inspiring post.
I take almost EVERYTHING personally. However, i may not take all negativity to the heart. Since not all negativity is intentional.
From my perspective, I don't seek to unify myself, but rather seek to have all the parts of me on agreeable speaking terms with each other.
We're too complicated to be as one, encompassing all aspects of ourselves, from any particular perspective.
Rather we're each more like a Village. In our better moments, the multiple self-organizing layers of our beings, at various physical, chemical, biological, mental, energetic and spiritual levels, are supportive of each other, or at least amused or tolerant of each other (aspect of our being.)
"Unified" sounded too monotone to me, risking being a denial of our own self-diversity.
When several of the various aspects of ourselves are cooperating on a common goal, we can indeed become quite powerful. Perhaps that is more what you meant by unity being empowering.
(If my occassional forays into philosophy make little sense, fret not ... I will reliably return to my nerdly computer and economic studies shortly.)
We're too complicated to be as one, encompassing all aspects of ourselves, from any particular perspective.
Not that i disagree with this statement... I just think we may 'think' we are too complicated to be as 'ONE'.
At certain instances we aren't able to flex to the mold of each other's expectations, but by creation, we are as one. WE just get lost in ourselves sometimes, and modern society conditions us to think on a more 'ego' based level, rather than on an individual level. An individual should understand the ONENESS, but once they fall prey to the system they forget over and over again. Like humpty dumpty falling down and putting himself together over and over again. We need help with each other to remind us we are 'as ONE'. We just have freedom to pilot our own bodies, and make our own decisions. However, we are essentially born to thrive together on a level so much higher than our present day humanity would like us to believe.
RunningDeer
15th April 2015, 01:52
A six minute summary and refresher on the "Benefits of Higher Frequency". A guest asked Zen Gardner to expand on the term lower vibration. He gives a concise explanation of the hows and whys these lower density energies effect us. Zen includes suggestions on how to tune into a higher frequency and the benefits from them.
Thanks to Murray. Full video found on his thread “Zen on the Richie Allen Show (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81504-Zen-on-the-Richie-Allen-Show&p=952486&viewfull=1#post952486)”.
UPDATE: Zen Gardner mentions Bill Ryan in the full video. Exact mark found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81504-Zen-on-the-Richie-Allen-Show&p=952542&viewfull=1#post952542).
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